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Any other intro was that good
enough? That's good enough. Adam

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curry, John C. Dvorak. Sunday,
August 24 2014. Time for your

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Gitmo nation media assassination
episode 646. This is no agenda

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monitoring charge 2.0 from the
South Austin safe house here in

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FEMA Region six in the capital,
the drone Star State in the

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morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry

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and from Northern Silicon Valley
where it's supposed to be

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boiling hot and it's not. I'm
John C. Dvorak. Levin books

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kill.

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I'm just happy you're alive.

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Why not? What if you

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watch television all of Northern
California is broken? It is.

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There was a 6.0 magnitude
earthquake.

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Yeah, it was in the morning
around three. Supposedly it

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didn't wake anybody around here
now. It was one of those

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rollers, which doesn't make you
sad. It doesn't. That's not the

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kind of Quake that'll wake in
the middle of the night. It

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actually pushed deeper to sleep.
Rockabye, baby. I've been in a

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lot of those.

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But yeah, I've been in a couple
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things are rolling. You know,
it's like rolling along.

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Everyone's showing this in wine
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presume this is yes, it was up
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seeing

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people tweeting pictures of
entire wineries, all the bottles

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destroyed. Oh, the travesty.

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Two bottles get on the show.
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It's possible, possible. And
this 6.0 magnitude, it is always

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important for us to reiterate
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Richter scale. If this were a
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would be a lot of dead people.

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I think I would have felt it.
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this is the bull crap scale that
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Will they feel anything? Yeah,
we'll call it a six. That's

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exactly right. If things fall
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means it's a four. And I think
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where you have some real damage.
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nothing to do with the actual
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Richter scale. This is no longer
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bit dropping. That's why they
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great though, because you can
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Crikey. It was a six.

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So I have a little anecdote
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there's a wine store in San
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my wine from because they have
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to the name or is this the
candle? Oh, okay. And I'll sure

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and so can al they had the big
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that shook the it was the World
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to place and dropped to
freeways. There's a mess.

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The Candlestick Park game was
happening, right? Yes. Live and

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it was I remember that. I
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everyone's like, I was in a
recording studio with Joan Jett

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of all people. Oh, yeah, and
everyone Oh,

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interesting. I was actually in
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told to go into a safe spot when
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Abilene was close enough seem so
whatever the case was the guys

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at Cornell told me that when the
warehouse was decimated by the

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quake

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decimated does that mean only
10% of it was broke? Yeah,

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but 10% Exactly. There was the
board dough boxes which are

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wooden and they hold 12 bottles
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wooden box with with wooden
separators and the not one

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bottle of Bordeaux was destroyed
in the in the shaking but all

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anything that was in a cardboard
box is all busted up. So the old

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way the old Bordeaux box the old
wooden box with the wooden

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separators the French way the
French Way is the safest way in

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an earthquake area. Mexico those
never nobody would acknowledge

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this. Let me they did the store
but I mean it's like nobody's

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written this up or maybe
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So the bottles that I saw that
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in Napa Yeah, we

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were a it looked like they were
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he would celery sticks a cellar
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storage.

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Where do you Where are you
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brain with it at me

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a CIA? confusing me. I'm looking

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at is already impossible show
title 1989 Loma pre pre pre pre

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created earthquake. I'm looking
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And this, according to the book
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that's 7.1 on the moment mag Get
to scale. So that is compared to

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this it is on the same scale. I
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Yeah, you know, the rich are
dumb the way they're doing it

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now because you can't make real
comparisons. And then they say,

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well, one's a different kind.
What's an uplift and one's an S

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wave. And they're making all
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Is that your scientific voice?

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Yeah, that is my new scientific
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And yeah, it's wave. Now.

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Let me see. Okay, well, anyway,
enough of that. What else is

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I liked it. I just when all this
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are in Los Angeles, to Los
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weekend. And why?

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Oh, you're just going to be
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Molly, I think. I don't know
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about

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that guy.

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It's like the standard women's
anything. Exactly. Just with a

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routine to their mom's teaching.

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me just ask you, is that your
Mollywood voice? I just want to

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make sure we've got everything
straight.

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I mean, they get paid nothing at
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met No, again, at least she's
cynical.

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No agenda, a bunch of right wing
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And Mickey wanted to visit a few
people in LA. And she's flying

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Monday to Amsterdam, and I'm
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we're kind of connecting
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Monday, you're flying Monday I'm
flying. Correct. Okay, and

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writing this down. Please write
that down. And one of the Molly

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I think, had asked Mickey to be
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the Beverly Hills or the
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some Gee, I

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wonder how many pre Emmy parties
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I don't think 1000s But there
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And some are better than others.
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understand this was a party from
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a house there or maybe his in LA
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was you know, it was no I like
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I was not informed. We should
ask and from what I understand

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emails, emails went out to
everyone who Somalia was invited

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to this and emails went out to
everybody. No photos, no social

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media. Hush, hush hush hush

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yeah, now I really want to know
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Douche bag list on me the point
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And I said to Mickey, I said
this can't be any good.

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Any party that is worth having
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you know people falling into
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You gotta have cops cops. You
gotta have everyone's got it's

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got to be all over social media.

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I don't know.

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I don't know. I will have a
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I have just to give you a
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have a small clip. Oh, boy. Now
normally I if you don't if you

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remember I once decided to cover
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the adult video network, is it
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no, it's the I don't know what
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something. It's it's an Oscars
for porn. And so and this is the

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worst show ever. And it's very
profane. And these girls are

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it's just really a shame that
they represent them. It's kind

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of stupid is dumb sounding women
and I'm going to play a small

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clip. It said it's the of the
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women that are hosting the event
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after a ribald comic a woman
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stage and she's essentially
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just ask you Is this from this
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tortoise

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one that just this week to run
they ran? They're running I'm on

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Showtime or something may

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I ask you why? There was no text
message Adam turn on Show times

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on they play it over and over
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alert me to these things.

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Believe me. Can't watch it.

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And you did. So you jumped on
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I watched it Yeah, I only pull
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you what you'd have to deal
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a lot more profanity. I took the
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breaking moment where I think
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that clip? 51 seconds 51 seconds
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driver, but how hot and how hot
they are these two women find it

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to be here. Now we're not that

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excited. Are you excited?

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That sounds like Natalie Morris.

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That's right. We have a great
show planned for you tonight

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with a lot of fabulous
entertainment.

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That's right. That's Mark Stone
and DJ star they'll be playing

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original music

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going to be back out here in
just a little bit with another

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song for you. And tonight live
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to be treated to a very special
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That's gonna be so hot and so
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it. Right. Okay,

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can you I mean, it's just a
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can't even say words without
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read by a five year old. I it
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I blame. I blame them.

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I blame this industry that could
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were intelligent. I blame this

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on the MTV Video Music Awards.
This is what it has evolved to.

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awards, I would say 84 I think.
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When I left 1993. So for it was
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VMAs. Which makes so much sense.
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It's the Video Music Award. You
can't say VMAs. Branding, right?

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And of course now it is the
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unstoppable. But this is how
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you know, the branding theorists
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the one that should control the
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which is a fact. And you are so
because you don't know the

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brand, right? You you portray
the brand, but you don't

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actually know because you're not
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Right, right. Right. I tell this
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because they're asking me what
should I do? This should No, no,

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no, you let them you let your
your you let your customer the

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buyer, you're not the buyer. I
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don't consume the show, we
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show. It's the the other side of
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better than we do, because
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And this brings me to something
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drinks and dinner with a friend.
I have a couple of guy friends

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here. 122 and a half, maybe
three. And this is we've spoken

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about him before. This is the
big time New York banker who he

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is actually now officially
retired. He's my age he has

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retired and has gotten out of
the industry and moved his

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family to Austin from New York
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Right? You told us this right? I
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the show. But I know I told you
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I think we brought it up. Okay.

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And I like him because he's also
trying to figure out what the

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heck he's doing in Austin. What
is it? You know, we're very much

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the same level. But he has a lot
of insight into the financial

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industry and really understands
the big game. He I think, well,

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I asked him a couple of things.
And our wives have connected and

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they've had actually that's what
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have had two drinks two times
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must must must connect you
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Why are you marry to that guy?

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Why are you married to that guy?

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And we we go by and first we're
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have drinks first and then go
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off well. And we're talking and
and I find I talk a little bit

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about what what he just retired
from. And he was he says you

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know all financial business, all
positions, it is all sales every

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and it's either sales or someone
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but otherwise everyone's in
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job was selling big products to
countries. So I think he's he's

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not working for Goldman, but is
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of the the only healthy firms
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and even that's in question that
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there's another one. And

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and I think he probably Yeah, he
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Goldman, I'm sure You sell, like
what Goldman did did to Greece

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and the products they sold that
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he was in. Yeah. Okay. Okay. So
that makes sense. It's big

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business. And besides him
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seven of the 10 people who knows
who are high level, and with

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high level I'm talking B level.
So he says he was a B level

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banker in New York, not a where
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pad and you know, you're always
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your own table that is roped
off, and you have the 15,000

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square foot mansion in the
Hamptons. But he was below,

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which is big, I would say I
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And he said, seven of the 10
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They have no idea if they're
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months. They're all worried.
Sure. crapless

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says this is unique. These guys.
He said this is very unique,

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that they are so worried. It's
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and I'm going to get to the
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talked about something he's
calling tarp 2.0. Which, as you

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recall, TARP was the the so
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2008 months, right troubled
assets, which really benefited

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only the biggest benefit came to
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foreign banks. And we're so when
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European Union is going to need
something very quickly.

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Yeah, I think there's been Yeah,
and but it may call he stays

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connected. In other words to do
to the whole to that,

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what's that there's not you can
read Bloomberg and stay

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connected. He understands. He
understands this business, he

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looks at

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an asset, you can read Bloomberg
and not know what the hell

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you're reading, right. But he's
in a way, he's an important

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asset to the show the point
you're making. Now that we know

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that the European Union is going
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no. And of course that so he's
given I'm just telling you this

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because he's good info. And then
we're starting to talk a little

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bit on my side of the fence and
I'm talking about, you know, the

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caliphate and, and, and I said,
you know, ISIS ISIL is, you

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know, but what is this crap? And
he said, I think this is the

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this is the perfect branding.
This is so good. These guys are

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so sleazy. He says those guys
guys are so scary. For you guys

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know, but also these guys are so
scary. No one even knows what

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the column. Yeah, he thought the
ISIS ISIL is was was was the was

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done on purpose. And that and of
course it is,

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which again, makes it look
government. Well.

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Hello.

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I was thinking about this about
the is it possible that ISIS,

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which you came out of was well
equipped by us, which came out

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of Syria as as one of the groups
that was attacking that couldn't

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succeed?

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Before that, really? I mean,
move from Libya. It's yeah,

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it's the same. It's just some
group that were behind somehow.

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Is it possible that the entire
Iraq adventure was designed from

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the beginning to have this? This
is not a big surprise to

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anybody? We're all flabbergast
Oh, my God. Now what? But is it?

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It'd be we wanted to rub allies
and destroy and re design the

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country so we could have our
little Kurdish buddies have

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their own little country and it
just took a lot longer than we

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thought it would is there was a
resiliency and a kind of a fake

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nationalism amongst the Iraqis
who really aren't. A country is

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not a country was one of these
countries that was dreamed up

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after World War One. I think
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Well, we have discussed the the,
the the Kurdistan and the

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Kurdish state and breaking up
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original 2003 invasion. And it
didn't work out that way for a

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number of reasons. I think there
are multiple agendas at play.

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And this is the McCain's of the
world. See this right? They see

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Yeah, let's break it up. And
it's good for the oil and for

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our buddies. I believe there is
a bigger game at play, which

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kind of leads into the the
globalists who really don't have

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any patriotic mission for their
country like America. And I was

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fun. I was watching a video. I
like to watch the if you ever

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spoken to someone who's Israeli
or Arabic, but I've had it with

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Israelis the most and they are
so they'll say things like you

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don't you don't need a PhD to
understand this. Okay,

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I hope they don't say it like
that, but I'm sorry,

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I couldn't couldn't quite get it
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I would say you don't need a PhD
to understand this. clear that's

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all I can do I might Israeli guy
is now Frank Underwood that the

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the the puppet masters use that
name is there's something much

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bigger and it seems like America
is known was at Pax Americana

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you know America keeps the peace
this is what it started with,

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kind of like the Marshall Plan
and and you know we're making

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sure everything's calm and cool
and collected and and really

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what's happening from where from
my vantage point is it seems

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like almost purposely the way
the media is and the way had

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this has evolved and thank God
we have social media, could it

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get any better? We we are
throwing messages at people and

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incidences and situations
sometimes as often as 24 hours

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but we can also build something
up so it'll be in America

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certainly, you know, a Russian
plane shut down and mh 17 shut

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down. But Russia did Putin then
we have caliphate and then we

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have we have South Africa Ebola
and it's just and it's going

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back and forth and

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things are really pounding us
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So that you you remain kind of
in this powerless state when

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it's so your mind is is blocked
from concentrating on one thing

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and seeing the reality kind of
thing you kind of imprisoned in

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this

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that's why you would fall so
popular Yes.

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Yes you're you're imprisoned in

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a baseball game nothing could be
more relaxing than that.

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But the way this is done with
this distraction back and forth

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your your you are in prison by
superficiality almost. And then

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of course we throw something
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And you get imprisoned by this
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Oh, are we flowing today or
what? What are we? Oh, I see it.

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This became guard dash itself.
deescalate

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Kim Kardashian fans will be
happy the American reality TV

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star has announced She'll soon
be releasing a book of her best

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selfies. The 352 page book
entitled selfish is due to hit

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stores from April 2015. And it
comes as no great surprise as

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the Instagram page will testify.
The 33 year old is something of

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a selfie devotee.

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Hey, now

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I can't wait. Can you imagine
this will be a best seller. Oh

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yeah. Priestess. It's a bunch of
stupid pictures of herself taken

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by herself. Get a photo credit.
I mean, she some believable I

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happen to know something about
this book. That's not entirely

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true. She shot a lot of this on
her vacation in in Thailand.

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Wait, hold on a second stop. You
happen to know a lot about this

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book. Yep.

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Yeah, I saw the episode where
she was making it you may

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continue okay. This is important
research. And if you think that

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doesn't affect me and I did that
it's not a dangerous task. And

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you were mistaken my friend but
I do these things for the show.

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So yeah, I did very professional
camera and she got a light ring

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on it says not to phone selfie
stick pretty good. And she had

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her assistant take some pictures
over it's not it's but it is all

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of her that's for sure. But
they're not specifically

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selfies. And I do just need to
remind everybody about the just

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quickly and I'll get off at it.
But it's important. They're new

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listeners to the show every day
or people who just don't listen

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at all they think they're
listening because they're in the

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superficiality of the media. The
selfies phenomenon in

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combination with oh really with
your your portable jewel

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Bejeweled device with your
camera, your phone and the

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social media networks is an
international health crisis.

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Because you are not portraying
reality you're seeing all of

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your friends wonderful life.
They're fantastic looking food,

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the beautiful sunsets and you
want to portray the same thing,

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which is by taking a picture
Hold on a second. I had my eyes

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shut didn't get the right set.
Are you looking good? Yeah,

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you're looking good. Oh,
perfect. Smile. Great. Oh, yeah.

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Fantastic. I like a crop rotate,
filter, upload post. Hey, wait a

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minute. No one's liked it yet.
Why haven't they liked to come

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on? Please like my photo? I
really want you to like my

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photo. This is not healthy
behavior. And this is this is

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the this is some form of another
tipping point with Kim

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Kardashians. Selfie book.

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Oh, yeah. Hi, I agree. And
again, selfies are also

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dangerous. Apparently a couple
fell off a cliff. And then

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another guy shot himself in the
head because apparently he likes

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to take selfies the Mexican kid
Latino who'd like to put a gun

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to his own head and it takes off
and I guess he pushed the wrong

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button.

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Well, okay, so we are jumping
around a bit but I have done

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some work on this. And last
night was Saturday night I'm

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here at the at the safe house.
And as you know, certainly on

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Saturday nights I like to drink
My herbal tea and browse through

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my medical journals. And I knew
what I was looking for. And I it

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was based upon something you
said in our previous

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conversation of a related topic,
which is the Ice Bucket

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Challenge. This is a part of the
phenomenon and you said

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something that triggered my
thinking and then I connected a

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couple dots you said that Bill
Gates doing this must be because

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he is completely guilt ridden.
At which I according to the

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medical journals, and the
research, professional divorce,

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you are correct, but only
partially correct for the entire

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phenomenon. There is a
compendium of research that I

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found from Stanford University.
And the and this is from 2010 is

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a compendium or a collection of
research documents and

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conclusions. And the title of
this Compendium is coined the

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term moral self licensing. Are
you familiar with this?

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Continue? This is very, this is
very, very good. And I of

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course, I have this document
highlighted and annotated in the

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show notes. But let me read a
couple things and you jump in

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when you feel appropriate the
abstract past good deeds can

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liberate individuals to engage
in behaviors that are immoral,

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unethical, or otherwise
problematic. behaviors that they

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would otherwise avoid for fear
of feeling or appearing immoral.

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In this companion, we research,
moral self licensing and the

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effect in the domains of
political correctness, pro

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social behavior, and consumer
choice. This John is

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gonna die.

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Oh, I'm sorry,

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gold, Jerry. It is gold. It also
explains a lot about what the

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precursor to this is, which is
the changing your Twitter icon,

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texting a $5 donation for a
concert for the Haiti. But it

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works both ways. So we the
obvious presumption is, oh, wow,

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if I change my Twitter icon, I
will feel much better about

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something that I'm you know,
that I haven't done anything

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about. But when you dive into
the research, it is not just

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making yourself feel better for
not having some done something.

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The research shows quite
conclusively from multiple

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studies, that when you do
something that appears to be

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good, like an ice bucket
challenge, or changing your

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Twitter icon, you are actually
in many cases, self licensing

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yourself for bad behavior down
the road. And so when, when you

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look at and read some more
highlighted bits from the

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document, when you think about
the Ice Bucket Challenge, what

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bothered you and I was that and
actually, it has all the

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elements built in, that you
either take the Ice Bucket

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Challenge, or donate $100. And
so this is it has the immoral

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behavior built into it, you
douse yourself with the ice

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bucket. So you don't have to pay
the $100. Which to us made no

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sense. But that is so this is
the the self and the moral self

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licensing built into the system
upfront. I just they've raised a

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lot of money. But I guarantee
you a lot of people who took

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this challenge did not write any
check. They don't I did the

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00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:48,300
bucket challenge, whatever. And
it has that beautiful social

448
00:28:48,300 --> 00:28:52,770
aspect, which we used to gripe
about. And it's no it doesn't

449
00:28:52,770 --> 00:28:57,060
happen anymore. The chain letter
when email first came out,

450
00:28:57,090 --> 00:28:59,910
oh, yeah, that says all the
elements of a chain letter I

451
00:28:59,910 --> 00:29:02,010
hate J letters, you have no idea

452
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:06,150
you will die. If you do not send
this to 10 More people will die

453
00:29:06,180 --> 00:29:10,620
you will die. And that's the the
I'm calling out calling out. I'm

454
00:29:10,620 --> 00:29:15,930
tagging three other people. Have
you have 24 hours or you will?

455
00:29:17,310 --> 00:29:20,340
Yeah, no, that's exactly what
the model is. This is modeled

456
00:29:20,340 --> 00:29:21,180
after that

457
00:29:21,300 --> 00:29:25,020
moral self licensing. This is
from the moanin and Miller 2001

458
00:29:25,020 --> 00:29:27,510
study. This has been studied a
lot. So I'm gladly

459
00:29:27,510 --> 00:29:30,210
having there's a couple of other
coincidental things involved

460
00:29:30,210 --> 00:29:35,190
here. One. One is my idea but
the other one is, it's noted

461
00:29:35,220 --> 00:29:39,270
noteworthy that in certain
Eastern European cultures,

462
00:29:39,510 --> 00:29:45,840
jumping into a pool of ice is a
way of cleansing your sins. And

463
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,870
the Russians do this right as
they have it on the news

464
00:29:48,870 --> 00:29:52,380
constantly and it shows Yeah,
idiots jumping into ice water.

465
00:29:52,950 --> 00:29:59,790
And but I'm also seeing this as
kind of a satanic ritual as as

466
00:29:59,790 --> 00:30:03,990
in Have a baptism. Because make
no mistake about it. This has

467
00:30:03,990 --> 00:30:06,150
all the elements of a baptism.
Thank

468
00:30:06,150 --> 00:30:09,030
you very much. That is not
that's not discussed in this but

469
00:30:09,030 --> 00:30:10,170
that I totally and

470
00:30:10,170 --> 00:30:14,400
I do and I do believe that this
baptism thing and may be cursing

471
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:20,490
these people to having a spate
of extremely bad luck. Yeah to

472
00:30:20,490 --> 00:30:23,400
the point where I would keep an
eye on them I keep an eye on

473
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,700
Lindsay Lohan I keep an eye on
everybody who made a big scene,

474
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,960
dumping the getting baptized
with the ice water. And I think

475
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:35,310
it's already gotten close to
that with this clip. I have the

476
00:30:35,310 --> 00:30:37,320
ice bucket challenge goes bad.

477
00:30:38,970 --> 00:30:39,840
I'm sorry I was

478
00:30:42,330 --> 00:30:46,050
in Kentucky for firefighters
were when the bucket challenge

479
00:30:46,050 --> 00:30:49,260
went wrong. The firefighters
were helping a college marching

480
00:30:49,260 --> 00:30:52,140
band with the challenge. After
they sprayed the students with

481
00:30:52,140 --> 00:30:55,680
water the crew pulled the ladder
back and the bucket got too

482
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,380
close to a power line. One of
them is now in critical

483
00:30:58,380 --> 00:31:02,430
condition. And power was knocked
out in the area. No Yeah. The

484
00:31:02,430 --> 00:31:02,730
ice

485
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:08,460
bucket itself. Yeah. That was
struck. Yeah, the arct by the

486
00:31:08,460 --> 00:31:09,660
lightning bolts and

487
00:31:09,660 --> 00:31:14,970
art and art. Yeah, so the thing
that blows me away and this is

488
00:31:14,970 --> 00:31:19,980
why this ice bucket challenge is
potentially extremely bad for

489
00:31:20,490 --> 00:31:27,660
charitable work for just crying.
Is that morals I'm gonna read

490
00:31:27,660 --> 00:31:29,730
some more because this is gonna
blow you away. Moral self

491
00:31:29,730 --> 00:31:33,210
licensing the moaning and Miller
study of 2001 occurs when past

492
00:31:33,210 --> 00:31:36,720
moral behavior makes people more
likely to do potential immoral

493
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:40,560
things without worrying about
feeling or appearing a moron a

494
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:45,330
lot of this study shows about
it's about the appearance. The

495
00:31:45,330 --> 00:31:47,700
phenomenon of moral self
licensing has been documented in

496
00:31:47,700 --> 00:31:50,550
various domains under different
headings over the past decades

497
00:31:50,550 --> 00:31:56,460
with a lot of known information
about this. The anxiety

498
00:31:56,460 --> 00:31:58,950
associated with political
correctness in the contemporary

499
00:31:58,950 --> 00:32:02,250
United States this is from a
study from 1998 provides

500
00:32:02,250 --> 00:32:05,550
numerous opportunities to
observe moral self licensing.

501
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,390
Modern Americans generally wish
to avoid feeling or appearing

502
00:32:09,390 --> 00:32:12,480
prejudiced yet all the same can
be tempted to express views that

503
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,930
could be construed as prejudice.
So this is where this political

504
00:32:15,930 --> 00:32:19,980
correctness comes from. And the
internet and social media is

505
00:32:20,130 --> 00:32:24,120
extremely, extremely bad eating
it. Eating it, research has

506
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,670
shown that individuals
strategically seek out

507
00:32:26,670 --> 00:32:32,010
opportunities to act morally, if
they know they might need a

508
00:32:32,010 --> 00:32:38,640
moral license for an upcoming
dubious action. This is

509
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:44,250
fantastic. So the people who are
possibly According to research,

510
00:32:44,430 --> 00:32:49,140
the people who take the ice
bucket challenge may be doing so

511
00:32:49,230 --> 00:32:53,010
because they know they're going
to they have an upcoming dubious

512
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:58,410
action, and they want to cleanse
themselves up front. This is

513
00:32:58,530 --> 00:33:03,150
dynamite. When individuals have
a chance to establish their

514
00:33:03,150 --> 00:33:06,780
kindness, generosity or
compassion, they should worry

515
00:33:06,780 --> 00:33:10,110
less about engaging behaviors
that might appear to violate pro

516
00:33:10,110 --> 00:33:13,470
social norms. For example,
individuals whose past good

517
00:33:13,470 --> 00:33:16,770
deeds are fresh in their mind
may feel less compelled to give

518
00:33:16,770 --> 00:33:19,740
to a charity than individuals
without such comforting

519
00:33:19,740 --> 00:33:24,960
recollect already gave Exactly.
Already gay already gave. And

520
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,620
other charity I said that, you
know, autism when they must be

521
00:33:28,950 --> 00:33:33,240
incense because the people, the
lot of people who may who

522
00:33:33,270 --> 00:33:36,120
probably would not have donated
are not going to donate anymore,

523
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,540
and they probably didn't even
donate the large majority of the

524
00:33:39,540 --> 00:33:43,590
people who took this challenge
did not write a check. Even

525
00:33:43,590 --> 00:33:46,080
though of course, it's working.
Of course, money is coming in.

526
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:49,290
Of course, that's just that's
the the logic of numbers, you

527
00:33:49,290 --> 00:33:53,250
know, big numbers, of course,
it's going to work. Okay. The

528
00:33:53,250 --> 00:33:56,160
9099 I'm not gonna read all the
names of the of the studies. But

529
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,050
there's, these are all
footnotes. And these are these

530
00:33:58,050 --> 00:34:02,250
are real Stanford type research.
This is this is why we

531
00:34:02,250 --> 00:34:04,020
got that already go.

532
00:34:05,220 --> 00:34:07,320
The research show that
individuals want the credit for

533
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:12,000
moral intentions without having
to pay the cost. This suggests

534
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:16,050
if you let individuals express
their exemplary intentions, they

535
00:34:16,050 --> 00:34:21,930
may feel licensed not to follow
through on them. For example,

536
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,270
well, I want to stop you here
for a sec, because I want to

537
00:34:24,270 --> 00:34:27,030
mention somebody which is also
said this is actually a biblical

538
00:34:27,030 --> 00:34:30,480
thing. And there's one other
thing that bothers me, which is

539
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:34,350
the concept and I think this is
I don't have no scripture. So I

540
00:34:34,350 --> 00:34:36,990
can't give you a quote, but I
have plenty of producers who do

541
00:34:36,990 --> 00:34:42,930
and will but there's the thing
about about showing off your,

542
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,260
your contribution. In other
words, you have Yeah, I'm a

543
00:34:46,290 --> 00:34:51,180
generous person I've given
$5,000 I'm taking the Ice Bucket

544
00:34:51,180 --> 00:34:54,450
Challenge. I'm gonna double ice
on myself and I'm gonna give

545
00:34:54,450 --> 00:34:59,370
money. This sort of thing is is
considered bad form. If you want

546
00:34:59,370 --> 00:35:03,060
to be a janitor. Whereas person,
if you want to be a generous

547
00:35:03,060 --> 00:35:05,940
person, you just You're, you're
a generous person. You're not

548
00:35:05,940 --> 00:35:10,380
You're not supposed to be giving
money for your own gret, self

549
00:35:10,380 --> 00:35:13,320
aggrandizement, you're not
supposed to do that. It's it's

550
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,200
bad form. And that's all I see
within the

551
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,950
reason why that is scripture.
And indeed someone will send

552
00:35:19,950 --> 00:35:23,970
that to us is, I believe, a
scripture is not just all made

553
00:35:23,970 --> 00:35:27,780
up stories about some dudes in
the sky on a cloud, just like

554
00:35:29,820 --> 00:35:36,750
living a strict orthodox life,
there are some real learnings

555
00:35:36,750 --> 00:35:40,890
behind them. And this makes
sense if you a grand your eyes

556
00:35:40,890 --> 00:35:45,120
and say I'm doing or I'm going
to, history has proven and it

557
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,450
has been known throughout
history, that people then have

558
00:35:48,450 --> 00:35:51,510
this self moral licensing and
they don't follow through.

559
00:35:51,510 --> 00:35:55,080
Here's an example. Asking people
the probability they would

560
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:59,430
donate blood in an ideal world
have led them to make much lower

561
00:35:59,430 --> 00:36:02,310
estimates of the probability
they will donate blood in

562
00:36:02,310 --> 00:36:08,040
reality, the so the non real
world is social media. And the

563
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,530
real world is the one where you
know, you stick a pin in your in

564
00:36:10,530 --> 00:36:15,480
yourself into hearts. So when
you say in the fantasy world,

565
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,030
I'm going to donate blood,
here's my Twitter icon, I'm

566
00:36:18,030 --> 00:36:22,320
changing, the likelihood of you
doing that is almost nil.

567
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,050
Because you've already done the
bid, you've already given

568
00:36:25,050 --> 00:36:27,360
yourself the license not to do
it, who the fuck is gonna know.

569
00:36:28,380 --> 00:36:33,210
And this is research. These
imagined claims allow people to

570
00:36:33,210 --> 00:36:36,840
show they really want to be an
upstanding citizen, even though

571
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,540
they probably will not follow
through on their intentions.

572
00:36:39,540 --> 00:36:43,170
This is from a 1995 study. And
then we moved into something I

573
00:36:43,170 --> 00:36:46,590
think the advertising guys and
someone's got to be using this

574
00:36:46,620 --> 00:36:49,020
then I think we just haven't
figured it out yet. I need to

575
00:36:49,710 --> 00:36:54,000
look at it closely now that this
is on a radar, consumer choice.

576
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,750
So consumer choices is where the
money is made. Consumer Choice

577
00:36:57,750 --> 00:37:00,390
represents a third domain in
which moral self licensing is

578
00:37:00,420 --> 00:37:03,630
very evident. Everyday
purchasing decisions are tinged

579
00:37:03,630 --> 00:37:06,900
with morality. At the extreme.
Some utilitarian philosophers

580
00:37:06,900 --> 00:37:09,900
argue that it is immoral to
spend disposable income on

581
00:37:09,930 --> 00:37:13,650
unnecessary things, because that
money could go to people in need

582
00:37:13,650 --> 00:37:15,840
elsewhere this from 1972
studies,

583
00:37:15,990 --> 00:37:18,510
right? You know your food it
could go to they've stopped

584
00:37:18,510 --> 00:37:22,350
their starving children Africa,
is always starving children.

585
00:37:22,770 --> 00:37:26,130
According to the logic of self
licensing. individuals whose

586
00:37:26,130 --> 00:37:30,360
prior choices establish them as
ethical and reasonable spenders,

587
00:37:30,720 --> 00:37:34,230
should be more likely to indulge
in frivolous purchases later on.

588
00:37:34,230 --> 00:37:38,550
This is how you are tricked into
buying stuff. A 2006 survey a

589
00:37:38,550 --> 00:37:41,790
study explored this question
directly by asking participants

590
00:37:42,060 --> 00:37:45,660
to make a hypothetical choice
between purchasing a luxury good

591
00:37:45,810 --> 00:37:49,980
designer jeans, or a relative
necessity necessity a vacuum

592
00:37:49,980 --> 00:37:53,880
cleaner, participants who had
first been asked to imagine

593
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,870
doing something altruistic. So
this is this is how the brain

594
00:37:57,870 --> 00:38:01,320
was manipulated. Participants
who had first been asked to

595
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,680
imagine doing something
altruistic chose the luxury item

596
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,380
more often than those who had
not. So they hadn't done

597
00:38:07,380 --> 00:38:11,910
anything altruistic. They had
been asked to think about it. In

598
00:38:11,910 --> 00:38:14,820
other words, participants who
imagined doing good deeds were

599
00:38:14,820 --> 00:38:19,110
able to establish their morality
and this license them to make

600
00:38:19,110 --> 00:38:21,060
frivolous choices with less
guilt.

601
00:38:24,300 --> 00:38:31,920
I add something to that. This is
this is an interesting idea. We

602
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,070
will actually start to spot this
now. Because the one thing you

603
00:38:35,070 --> 00:38:38,010
have to you have to understand
about people have to understand

604
00:38:38,010 --> 00:38:43,110
about the the marketing and
advertising world they study

605
00:38:43,110 --> 00:38:46,440
this stuff for a reason. Yeah. I
mean, it's not as though you go

606
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,570
into advertising and the next
thing you know, you're writing

607
00:38:48,570 --> 00:38:50,790
ad copy that sells product. In
fact,

608
00:38:50,820 --> 00:38:54,510
the most people think that it's
like madmen, where we all go sit

609
00:38:54,510 --> 00:38:57,570
down and say, you know, this
looks great. It will appeal to

610
00:38:57,570 --> 00:39:01,020
women. The real companies, the
ones that really know what

611
00:39:01,020 --> 00:39:03,990
they're doing. They have they've
they have the best scientists

612
00:39:03,990 --> 00:39:08,490
working for them, they really
do. Here's an example of a

613
00:39:08,610 --> 00:39:13,380
another real world example, from
2007. And this was for a movie

614
00:39:13,380 --> 00:39:19,080
rental. It blows me away.
optimistic expectations of

615
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,810
future consumer behavior can
licensed people to make more

616
00:39:21,810 --> 00:39:26,820
self indulgent choices in the
present. A con con and Dahar

617
00:39:26,850 --> 00:39:31,200
2007 study demonstrated as
compensation for an unrelated

618
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:35,760
task, participants chose a free
movie rental from a list

619
00:39:35,820 --> 00:39:41,370
containing both lowbrow films.
Example would be Ocean's 11. And

620
00:39:41,490 --> 00:39:46,050
highbrow films, Schindler's
List, illustrating that this

621
00:39:46,050 --> 00:39:49,860
choice had a moral tinge. A
separate group had rated the

622
00:39:49,860 --> 00:39:53,160
high brown movies as more
virtuous than the low brown

623
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:57,390
movies. Participants were more
likely to pick a low brown

624
00:39:57,390 --> 00:40:01,620
movie, when they expect it to
select a second movie from the

625
00:40:01,620 --> 00:40:05,070
same list one week later,
compared to when they thought

626
00:40:05,070 --> 00:40:08,340
they were choosing one movie
just in isolation. So this is

627
00:40:08,340 --> 00:40:12,420
how choice is manipulated by
giving people some very obvious

628
00:40:12,420 --> 00:40:16,050
choices and a timeframe to make
this choice. And you and it's

629
00:40:16,110 --> 00:40:19,920
kind of counterintuitive. And
isn't everything we discover on

630
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,280
the show counterintuitive. You
think about it to what popular

631
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:29,400
belief is. This is how you can
be manipulated, without really

632
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,650
doing that much work.

633
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:38,670
Maybe people would just rather
watch the ocean's 11. Well,

634
00:40:38,970 --> 00:40:41,940
here's some more entertaining. I
also have to say Shindo

635
00:40:41,970 --> 00:40:43,890
Schindler's List is very
entertaining.

636
00:40:44,850 --> 00:40:49,350
Social labeling may be one way
to frame goal pursuit as

637
00:40:49,350 --> 00:40:53,910
commitment. Here's a study from
75 that tested different tactics

638
00:40:53,910 --> 00:40:57,870
to increase neatness among fifth
graders, the group of children

639
00:40:57,870 --> 00:41:01,260
who were told repeatedly that
they were tidy, so they were

640
00:41:01,260 --> 00:41:05,520
given the label, you are tidy
children littered less than the

641
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,490
group that was told they should
be neat and tidy.

642
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:14,340
This is this is this is mind
boggling to me.

643
00:41:17,430 --> 00:41:20,670
I remember I'm reminded of the
it was it's one of the

644
00:41:20,670 --> 00:41:22,740
commercials, unfortunately,
remember the product. So it

645
00:41:22,740 --> 00:41:25,560
wasn't that effective, but a
product for some sort of

646
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,170
chocolate or something like
that. And they use the they use

647
00:41:28,170 --> 00:41:30,750
the mixed term. Guilty pleasure.

648
00:41:31,710 --> 00:41:32,760
Isn't it beautiful?

649
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,360
Yeah, that was that was stuff
like stems from this sort of

650
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:36,660
thing

651
00:41:36,690 --> 00:41:39,120
I define and then I'll just do
the final one. So I think

652
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,810
everyone gets the point. This is
from 2009. I liked this one.

653
00:41:42,810 --> 00:41:45,570
This was a study, all of the
study, the participants were

654
00:41:45,570 --> 00:41:48,930
Democrats, they were given a
choice to express their support

655
00:41:48,930 --> 00:41:54,000
for either Obama. This would be
like the licensing condition, or

656
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,930
carry the control condition.
They were asked to state how

657
00:41:57,930 --> 00:42:01,200
they would divide a pot of
money. Remember all Democrats a

658
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:04,200
pot of money between an
organization serving a white

659
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:08,610
community and one serving a
black community participants

660
00:42:08,610 --> 00:42:13,410
with higher scores on the modern
racism scale. Now this is Mrs.

661
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:17,520
Just have to believe that it is
a measure of prejudice, which

662
00:42:17,550 --> 00:42:20,520
was developed in 1981. If you've
ever heard of this, but there's

663
00:42:20,610 --> 00:42:25,290
a racism scale. Participants
with higher scores on the modern

664
00:42:25,290 --> 00:42:29,220
racism scale, whose commitment
to a egalitarian goals was

665
00:42:29,220 --> 00:42:33,870
presumably weaker, show the
licensing effect, they allocated

666
00:42:33,870 --> 00:42:37,560
more funds to the white
organization after having

667
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:42,960
expressed support for Obama. In
contrast, participants with

668
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:47,760
lower modern racism scale
ratings, whose commitment to

669
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:51,660
egalitarian goals was presumably
stronger, showed a marginal

670
00:42:51,660 --> 00:42:54,870
consistency effect. They
allocated more fun to the black

671
00:42:54,870 --> 00:42:58,830
organization after having
expressed support for Obama. So

672
00:42:58,830 --> 00:43:04,050
you see, this is very important,
how these issues are portrayed,

673
00:43:04,860 --> 00:43:11,100
certainly on television and
propagated and amplified through

674
00:43:11,100 --> 00:43:11,970
social media.

675
00:43:12,089 --> 00:43:14,759
Well, that's one of the things
we pick up on our show. That's

676
00:43:14,759 --> 00:43:17,909
the reason we identify even
though we don't know the studies

677
00:43:17,909 --> 00:43:23,699
we do now of course, but we've
spot things like condemning guns

678
00:43:23,819 --> 00:43:28,139
as a precursor to get people to
vote for the Democrats even

679
00:43:28,139 --> 00:43:30,779
though it's never mentioned.
Right? No one ever says we you

680
00:43:30,779 --> 00:43:33,269
know, you should hate guns are
going to kill your children vote

681
00:43:33,269 --> 00:43:39,989
Democrat, they never do that. In
fact, the only out overt ad I've

682
00:43:39,989 --> 00:43:43,799
ever seen, I just haven't have a
clip of it. That is outrageous.

683
00:43:43,799 --> 00:43:47,099
The over two, this is a clip
from the National Rifle

684
00:43:47,099 --> 00:43:51,419
Association, actually. And it
showed up on all things of all

685
00:43:51,419 --> 00:43:55,739
things that showed up on NFL
networks. I'm sorry, I'm sorry,

686
00:43:55,739 --> 00:43:59,489
let me said that and it seems to
be dated because this is really

687
00:43:59,489 --> 00:44:04,469
targeting Bloomberg. But it's a
pro gun advertisement.

688
00:44:05,430 --> 00:44:09,360
Liberals call this flyover
country. It's an insult. But

689
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,510
nobody insults your life. Like
this guy. Michael Bloomberg,

690
00:44:12,660 --> 00:44:17,010
billionaire elitist, hypocrite.
Bluebird tries to ban your snack

691
00:44:17,010 --> 00:44:21,450
foods, your soda and most of all
your guns. Bloomberg said the

692
00:44:21,450 --> 00:44:25,170
largest county in Colorado is as
far rural as you can get. I

693
00:44:25,170 --> 00:44:27,720
don't think there's roads there.
That's what he thinks of your

694
00:44:27,720 --> 00:44:32,550
state to keep your politics in
New York and keep your hands off

695
00:44:32,550 --> 00:44:36,570
our guns and our freedom. Yes,
yes.

696
00:44:36,570 --> 00:44:39,210
Yes. Yes. He was called out in
the ice bucket challenge. I

697
00:44:39,210 --> 00:44:44,790
might add by the by Gabby
Giffords and her husband. They

698
00:44:44,790 --> 00:44:50,070
did not Bloomberg the the Yes.
The the CEO of the NRA was

699
00:44:50,070 --> 00:44:53,070
called out not Bloomberg. The
CEO of the NRA was called out

700
00:44:53,580 --> 00:44:55,170
that would make sense. This is
this is now

701
00:44:55,170 --> 00:45:01,110
completely been politicized. And
so as getting an extra dimension

702
00:45:01,110 --> 00:45:01,710
Representative

703
00:45:01,710 --> 00:45:04,800
John Dingell, a Democrat from
Michigan, accuses some

704
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:08,700
Republicans of defunding ALS
research while taking the Ice

705
00:45:08,700 --> 00:45:13,020
Bucket Challenge. He tweeted
since 2011. House Republicans

706
00:45:13,020 --> 00:45:16,560
have cut national institutes of
health funding by billions. And

707
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,410
you thought dumping ice water on
your head was cold.

708
00:45:19,710 --> 00:45:25,200
So this has been politicized and
interesting to note that this

709
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:29,220
has been outlawed in the
government. Bandcamp Gomery of

710
00:45:29,220 --> 00:45:33,540
Harford spoke about this and the
ambassador's who are not allowed

711
00:45:33,540 --> 00:45:37,350
to participate in this? Of
course, obviously fantastic

712
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:38,640
cause one

713
00:45:38,850 --> 00:45:44,550
of the beats one can I guess
what it is? Is it is it correct

714
00:45:44,550 --> 00:45:49,560
that the State Department center
center cable to its ambassadors

715
00:45:49,860 --> 00:45:52,980
to ban them from participating

716
00:45:53,069 --> 00:45:55,679
that it wasn't it's not limited?
It's not just about ambassadors.

717
00:45:55,679 --> 00:45:59,789
Federal government ethics rules
prevent us from using our public

718
00:45:59,789 --> 00:46:02,339
offices, such as in back to high
public offices, such as

719
00:46:02,339 --> 00:46:05,999
ambassadors for private gain, no
matter how worthy the cause is,

720
00:46:05,999 --> 00:46:10,109
and this is of course, a worthy
cause. That, for that reason,

721
00:46:10,109 --> 00:46:12,179
high ranking State Department
officials are unfortunately

722
00:46:12,179 --> 00:46:12,539
unable

723
00:46:12,990 --> 00:46:15,540
to hold on a second she just
violated the rule herself by

724
00:46:15,540 --> 00:46:16,800
saying it's a worthy cause.

725
00:46:17,339 --> 00:46:21,059
Well, no, not entirely. The
reason why is the rule is in

726
00:46:21,059 --> 00:46:24,329
place, no matter how wordy the
cause, you are not allowed to

727
00:46:24,329 --> 00:46:29,459
use your office to raise money
like Eleanor Holmes, whatever

728
00:46:29,459 --> 00:46:32,609
her name is, you know, people
who call up. I was gonna say

729
00:46:32,609 --> 00:46:37,079
Eleanor Holmes, Rigby, I don't
know Norton, not in the Ice

730
00:46:37,079 --> 00:46:42,119
Bucket Challenge. Okay, sorry
about the one channel there.

731
00:46:42,119 --> 00:46:48,299
It's the C span has been a
little bad. Research suggests.

732
00:46:49,199 --> 00:46:51,719
I'm almost at the end here, but
it's just so much boggling my

733
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:55,529
mind. Research suggests that's
licensing the self licensing is

734
00:46:55,919 --> 00:46:59,249
not merely self a self
presentational strategy.

735
00:46:59,279 --> 00:47:04,019
Instead, it seems to reassure
the self. And these are all this

736
00:47:04,019 --> 00:47:06,479
is an important word self
selfies. This is the stuff we're

737
00:47:06,479 --> 00:47:10,469
dealing with right now. It seems
to reassure the self that

738
00:47:10,469 --> 00:47:14,759
subsequent behavior is
legitimate. 2001 study showed

739
00:47:14,759 --> 00:47:18,629
that licensing occurred even
when the audience who observed

740
00:47:18,629 --> 00:47:22,469
the morally dubious behavior
knew nothing of the prior

741
00:47:22,469 --> 00:47:27,419
licensing behavior, suggesting
that self image played a role in

742
00:47:27,419 --> 00:47:30,119
the phenomenon individuals who
imagined doing something

743
00:47:30,119 --> 00:47:33,929
altruistic rated themselves
higher on items such as I am

744
00:47:33,929 --> 00:47:37,109
compassionate, I am helpful and
that this change in self

745
00:47:37,109 --> 00:47:40,589
perception mediated whether
participants then felt licensed

746
00:47:40,589 --> 00:47:45,359
to prefer a frivolous product
that you are being you are

747
00:47:45,359 --> 00:47:49,079
definitely being used in this
way. And we are going to be

748
00:47:49,079 --> 00:47:55,289
paying attention to it now. And
I the I find the Ice Bucket

749
00:47:55,289 --> 00:48:01,139
Challenge and again, just
rehashing having the challenge

750
00:48:01,199 --> 00:48:09,809
include the immoral behavior of
not donating a few perform the

751
00:48:09,989 --> 00:48:15,959
self Licensing Act of dumping
ice over your head is it's a

752
00:48:15,959 --> 00:48:21,509
short circuit it is it is
everything right in one go in

753
00:48:21,509 --> 00:48:24,899
one second, and you get to share
it with your friends and you get

754
00:48:24,899 --> 00:48:30,269
to call them out with the chain
of metal that chain chain chain

755
00:48:30,269 --> 00:48:32,879
letters were came in the mail. I
remember getting them I remember

756
00:48:32,879 --> 00:48:38,639
my first one when I was nine. My
mom's Yes, my mom said oh, okay,

757
00:48:38,639 --> 00:48:41,159
well get your 10 stamps. You
know, you don't want to die.

758
00:48:42,030 --> 00:48:43,170
Oh, geez.

759
00:48:44,250 --> 00:48:47,190
Yes, I have mother issues too.
I'm working on the Wow,

760
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:50,820
emotional blackmail. I know we
all have crap going on. Okay,

761
00:48:50,820 --> 00:48:52,080
I'm in therapy. I'm working on
it when

762
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,720
I get one of those I still don't
get him that much. Maybe once

763
00:48:54,720 --> 00:48:59,160
every couple of years now.
Besides bouncing everybody who

764
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:02,010
would send me one of these
things I use the Explorer eight

765
00:49:02,010 --> 00:49:08,100
the sender Oh yeah. And and then
I use it blacklist them so they

766
00:49:08,100 --> 00:49:10,500
never can get but but these
people who send these things

767
00:49:10,500 --> 00:49:13,830
around as always, and there's
some of us that are creative,

768
00:49:13,830 --> 00:49:16,650
they're very creative about the
you know, the kids are gonna die

769
00:49:16,650 --> 00:49:20,130
and he's he's prayers and you
have to read this little ditty

770
00:49:20,130 --> 00:49:22,620
and he read it out loud and I
mean there's a million

771
00:49:22,620 --> 00:49:25,830
possibilities and and they're
always the same you know and it

772
00:49:25,830 --> 00:49:28,320
does they always as implication
you've got to do this you got to

773
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,050
send it to five more people it's
very important and they don't

774
00:49:31,050 --> 00:49:33,120
even have to be necessary about
you're gonna die some of them

775
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:37,620
are political. You know Obama is
actually you know, a reptilian

776
00:49:37,620 --> 00:49:40,740
and here's all the here's all
the data and send this to five

777
00:49:40,740 --> 00:49:44,370
of your friends you know that so
everyone knows that kind of

778
00:49:44,370 --> 00:49:47,460
thing. It's just I find it I
find it offensive that I even

779
00:49:47,460 --> 00:49:50,550
get one when somebody sends me
one. I am personally offended.

780
00:49:51,420 --> 00:49:54,840
In the conclusion of this
Compendium there is something

781
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:58,350
that I think pertains certainly
to me and perhaps to to you and

782
00:49:58,350 --> 00:50:02,250
to Austin, this am this And I'll
say that again,

783
00:50:02,939 --> 00:50:05,459
and others and many others.

784
00:50:06,690 --> 00:50:09,480
Although much of the research
highlighted in this Compendium

785
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:13,110
highlights the dark side of
moral self licensing, we wish to

786
00:50:13,110 --> 00:50:17,070
suggest that moral self
licensing may sometimes have

787
00:50:17,070 --> 00:50:21,690
more desirable consequences. As
discussed in the section on

788
00:50:21,690 --> 00:50:25,860
political correctness, moral
self Licensing can alleviate

789
00:50:25,860 --> 00:50:31,860
anxiety about saying something
offensive. Thus, self Licensing

790
00:50:31,860 --> 00:50:36,000
can be a valuable strategy to
facilitate open conversations

791
00:50:36,150 --> 00:50:41,010
about sensitive topics. This is
I think, this is what I do.

792
00:50:41,490 --> 00:50:43,110
When I kiss this what

793
00:50:44,790 --> 00:50:47,940
I call out things by the name
and it was like we're we're

794
00:50:47,940 --> 00:50:52,470
Tourette's you're What are you
black? You're Jew? You're

795
00:50:52,470 --> 00:50:54,330
whatever I say it like it is.

796
00:50:54,750 --> 00:50:57,930
It? What would What have you
done it previously to give

797
00:50:57,930 --> 00:50:59,160
yourself this license?

798
00:50:59,820 --> 00:51:03,180
No, I do it all the time. The
way I just talked to five, but I

799
00:51:03,180 --> 00:51:05,490
got it. I got it. You always
give everyone you see on the

800
00:51:05,490 --> 00:51:09,750
street? No, no, no, no, no, no,
no, always give them five bucks.

801
00:51:10,020 --> 00:51:13,170
No, no, no, you have to reverse
it, John, you have to reverse

802
00:51:13,170 --> 00:51:18,120
it, instead of me doing
something good. So I can so I

803
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:21,960
can feel good about myself doing
I do bad things, to give myself

804
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:26,040
license to talk openly without
guilt about things. So I call

805
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:29,070
people now. Horrible.

806
00:51:30,029 --> 00:51:32,429
You're violating your own thesis
that you just outlined.

807
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:35,520
I'm telling you what they just
said it can't you can look at it

808
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:36,780
in the reverse.

809
00:51:37,140 --> 00:51:40,050
No, but you can also look at it
and they said the positive but I

810
00:51:40,050 --> 00:51:43,230
think if you're gonna go with
positive stuff, you have to have

811
00:51:43,230 --> 00:51:47,400
the you still have to have the
license. Now. Here's the joke.

812
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:50,970
You're not you. You're kidding.
You're a do gooder. You don't do

813
00:51:50,970 --> 00:51:55,470
bad things you'd like to imagine
that you do? Yes. Yes. Yes. This

814
00:51:55,470 --> 00:51:58,680
is you know, go around eating
people up down the street. You

815
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,080
don't kick old ladies. And you
don't kick him in the knee? No,

816
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:01,230
you

817
00:52:01,230 --> 00:52:05,340
know why? Because I do all that
verbally in the imaginary world

818
00:52:05,340 --> 00:52:08,610
of this show. Therefore, I'm a
really nice guy outside of

819
00:52:08,610 --> 00:52:11,670
the show. What do you do
negative on this show? Oh, I

820
00:52:11,670 --> 00:52:15,030
don't know. I call people a
holes. Horrible people. baby

821
00:52:15,030 --> 00:52:17,970
killers, sir. All realistic
assertion.

822
00:52:21,150 --> 00:52:23,520
Correct. But not even accurate.

823
00:52:25,110 --> 00:52:27,660
All right, I have to work on
myself and figure this one out.

824
00:52:27,660 --> 00:52:31,980
But a little self license is a
fact. Yeah, it's

825
00:52:31,980 --> 00:52:35,850
a good one. So that's, that's
the winner for today's show. No

826
00:52:35,850 --> 00:52:37,140
clips, but it's done.

827
00:52:37,140 --> 00:52:41,490
Let's go home. Moral self
licensing. It is just beautiful.

828
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:43,830
It is truly truly Well, we'll

829
00:52:43,830 --> 00:52:46,410
see this won't be the first bull
crap thing we have. I mean,

830
00:52:46,410 --> 00:52:49,500
we've seen it with the icons,
the Twitter icons, which seemed

831
00:52:49,500 --> 00:52:52,080
a goal you more than anyone. And
the

832
00:52:52,170 --> 00:52:55,950
only way it only got only galls
me, because I know and we now

833
00:52:55,950 --> 00:52:56,160
have,

834
00:52:56,220 --> 00:52:59,220
you know, and I know we all know
that you put the change the icon

835
00:52:59,220 --> 00:53:02,010
you think you've done something?
Yeah. This is the same as all

836
00:53:02,010 --> 00:53:07,680
the outrage over net neutrality.
Yeah, I did my part. What part

837
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:09,900
did you do, I said is bad.

838
00:53:10,020 --> 00:53:13,830
So for success, if you want to
have success, you need to have

839
00:53:13,830 --> 00:53:17,610
someone do something trivial
instead of doing something

840
00:53:17,610 --> 00:53:21,990
meaningful and mention that in
the same challenge and have them

841
00:53:22,500 --> 00:53:26,520
send it on like a like a chain
letter. So we can use this for

842
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:31,380
any we can say Haiti. Poor and
so Haiti is suffering from

843
00:53:31,380 --> 00:53:36,780
cholera. pour a bucket of
diarrhea over your head or send

844
00:53:36,780 --> 00:53:39,690
$1,000 to Haiti and tell
everyone else to do this now and

845
00:53:39,690 --> 00:53:42,060
call them out and or it's going
to be they're going to die.

846
00:53:42,240 --> 00:53:45,750
I have a suggestion. Okay. I
think anyone that's involved in

847
00:53:45,750 --> 00:53:47,970
the Ice Bucket Challenge, even
though I think it's long since

848
00:53:47,970 --> 00:53:51,270
jumped to shark, but I would
suggest if you get to give

849
00:53:51,270 --> 00:53:55,710
somebody that dump ice water,
find a way to pee in the bucket

850
00:53:55,710 --> 00:53:56,190
a little bit.

851
00:53:56,610 --> 00:54:00,960
Okay, areas everywhere, they're
the fine button it down to third

852
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:04,890
grade. Great. Thank you for
that. Thank you for your courage

853
00:54:04,890 --> 00:54:09,150
John C. Dvorak. And I will say
in the morning to you my friend

854
00:54:09,210 --> 00:54:11,130
and fellow Professor John

855
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:16,650
in the morning, you Adam curry
in the morning and all ships at

856
00:54:16,650 --> 00:54:19,260
sea boots on the ground feed
near subs in the water, and all

857
00:54:19,260 --> 00:54:20,700
the days and nights out there.

858
00:54:20,730 --> 00:54:22,710
Do you eat in the mornings
everyone in the chat room who

859
00:54:22,710 --> 00:54:24,450
has been participating? It's
very nice to see them

860
00:54:24,450 --> 00:54:26,910
participate in this particular
conversation. They are

861
00:54:26,910 --> 00:54:30,060
recognizing themselves I love
seeing that in the morning to

862
00:54:30,060 --> 00:54:35,400
our artists in the morning to
our artists who are always

863
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:40,500
helping with the show great art
really, really really great art

864
00:54:40,500 --> 00:54:42,930
we had on six for three from

865
00:54:43,710 --> 00:54:48,270
Norwich they had to pick from
Yeah, this was this was the lot

866
00:54:48,270 --> 00:54:50,160
of potential winners and this
was the

867
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:54,510
the Fab Four dressed up as it
was ISIS Of course this because

868
00:54:54,510 --> 00:54:59,460
the three of these horrible ISIS
beheaders are now known as The

869
00:54:59,460 --> 00:55:03,660
Beatles. which I will say is
funny by itself because they're

870
00:55:03,660 --> 00:55:08,400
from London and there is not a
single London or in the London

871
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:13,440
universe universe or elsewhere
who will think or agree with you

872
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,560
that the Beatles are from
London. The Beatles were from

873
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:19,770
Liverpool and this is they're
very specific in London about

874
00:55:19,770 --> 00:55:22,530
they make a big deal, but I
would never say they're from

875
00:55:22,530 --> 00:55:27,690
London. No, no, that's a fact.
No agenda art. generator.com is

876
00:55:27,690 --> 00:55:30,360
where you can see all of and
Alexander score twice in a row.

877
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:34,380
I'm appointed out of the blue.
Yeah, just on a roll. Well,

878
00:55:34,380 --> 00:55:38,460
let's see. Don't be discouraged
or be encouraged to a lot of

879
00:55:38,460 --> 00:55:39,060
these guys. They

880
00:55:39,060 --> 00:55:43,560
get hot. They get hot in there.
And Nick Durant had a string of

881
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:44,370
about five and

882
00:55:45,210 --> 00:55:47,340
he had many more he had strings
of five and then

883
00:55:47,940 --> 00:55:51,390
one after the other after their
no with no break. And then

884
00:55:51,390 --> 00:55:57,150
Martin JJ was string and so he
had to retire semi retired. Dark

885
00:55:57,150 --> 00:56:00,120
says, I've added I've just
winning all with every week,

886
00:56:00,240 --> 00:56:01,860
I'll let the other losers.

887
00:56:06,330 --> 00:56:10,710
So be encouraged that your mojo
comes back. But we also we

888
00:56:10,710 --> 00:56:15,000
really just choose the best art
and and usually I'll say, oh,

889
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,340
man, he's already three in a
row. And we got them. Yeah, but

890
00:56:17,340 --> 00:56:21,030
it's the best. We are fair, we
have to be fair about these

891
00:56:21,030 --> 00:56:22,020
things. And we

892
00:56:22,020 --> 00:56:24,450
have to be fair about thanking
our producers and executive

893
00:56:24,450 --> 00:56:28,800
producers, beginning with Ed
Farrell, who's another I think

894
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:32,280
this is just the third in a row.
I think we missed the last show.

895
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:34,410
But this is another instance
right?

896
00:56:34,740 --> 00:56:36,780
It's a sack of sevens into the
night.

897
00:56:36,870 --> 00:56:43,050
Yes Akka sevens is tonight
$1,777.77 He says I can finally

898
00:56:43,050 --> 00:56:46,080
call myself a knight I love what
you guys do please keep up the

899
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:49,410
good work can I get a job some
job karma because I need a new

900
00:56:49,410 --> 00:56:50,010
job.

901
00:56:50,069 --> 00:56:53,579
Wait a minute. Does he is he out
of work because you have a job

902
00:56:53,579 --> 00:56:54,839
who just wants a new job? Well

903
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:57,840
when you say new job that Mitt
assumes you have a job okay.

904
00:56:58,590 --> 00:57:00,000
Anybody who doesn't like his job

905
00:57:00,029 --> 00:57:02,549
well Edie Thank you very much we
of course will be very delighted

906
00:57:02,549 --> 00:57:07,319
to bring you into the table of
the Knights and Dames later in

907
00:57:07,349 --> 00:57:10,319
in the program and appreciate
you being a sack of sevens night

908
00:57:10,319 --> 00:57:16,229
ISACA sevens night and yes of
course jobs

909
00:57:16,410 --> 00:57:20,610
jobs, jobs and jobs or jobs.

910
00:57:22,380 --> 00:57:25,620
This stuff works by the way this
is not again we have not come up

911
00:57:25,620 --> 00:57:28,410
with this this is producers who
have determined this this is

912
00:57:28,410 --> 00:57:33,060
part of our genius we don't have
you know a gene but it's what is

913
00:57:33,060 --> 00:57:36,090
part of our genius is that we
entered the genius comes

914
00:57:36,090 --> 00:57:39,570
naturally because we're lazy
we're lazy we are

915
00:57:40,500 --> 00:57:44,550
procrastinators. We don't like
working on stuff that doesn't

916
00:57:44,550 --> 00:57:49,380
interest us. And you and I've
had producers and when producers

917
00:57:49,380 --> 00:57:53,460
are in charge of the show, they
do what the producer wants. And

918
00:57:53,460 --> 00:58:00,240
this is how great shows fail
such as that. What was the show

919
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:05,040
that I watched the the musical
dancing show about Broadway with

920
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:08,100
the girl from God willing me
willing.

921
00:58:08,700 --> 00:58:12,900
So fat if so, so fabulous that
you forgot the name?

922
00:58:13,380 --> 00:58:15,570
Well they ruined it or show time
or

923
00:58:15,570 --> 00:58:21,600
show girls are way ahead of the
Broadway and smash Smash. Okay,

924
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:25,290
your answer, Bobo? No. Well,
that is a good story because the

925
00:58:25,290 --> 00:58:30,090
story behind that that show,
which was a producer, a single

926
00:58:30,090 --> 00:58:34,080
minded woman who had a vision
for the show. And her vision was

927
00:58:34,140 --> 00:58:36,840
actually meta meta meta was

928
00:58:38,100 --> 00:58:39,360
a meta meta meta but no,

929
00:58:39,390 --> 00:58:43,590
this this is a meta because the
story was about a woman and of

930
00:58:43,590 --> 00:58:46,980
course, its producers about
writing story, but

931
00:58:47,069 --> 00:58:50,189
the point was is that she had
this vision for the show and it

932
00:58:50,189 --> 00:58:55,259
was attracting a very loyal
audience of weirdos I would say

933
00:58:55,289 --> 00:58:59,459
it's okay, I like my singing and
dancing. And who likes singing

934
00:58:59,459 --> 00:59:02,309
dancing because it was kind of
based on let's can we beat Glee

935
00:59:02,309 --> 00:59:05,069
at its own game, right? Which I
don't want I don't like Glee at

936
00:59:05,069 --> 00:59:08,159
all. Well, it's a different
style and this woman had a

937
00:59:08,159 --> 00:59:12,299
certain and I thought it was
getting traction. Annoyingly so

938
00:59:12,299 --> 00:59:16,799
because I never liked to show I
thought it was too navel gazing

939
00:59:16,799 --> 00:59:22,589
but that's me and and but but
some suits in the network and I

940
00:59:22,589 --> 00:59:24,449
believe it must have been NBC
because they're the biggest

941
00:59:24,449 --> 00:59:28,529
screw ups are set well I don't
know you know we could probably

942
00:59:28,529 --> 00:59:31,199
read our demos not right we got
to move this and that and we got

943
00:59:31,199 --> 00:59:33,569
to change this and that I don't
like the way this going. They

944
00:59:33,569 --> 00:59:37,769
come and start fooling with the
show she's gets into a battle

945
00:59:37,769 --> 00:59:41,519
royale I guess with the with the
suits. And I guess was either

946
00:59:41,519 --> 00:59:44,489
fired or walked. And they
brought in some new good guys

947
00:59:44,489 --> 00:59:47,489
who changed the structure of the
show completely made it more

948
00:59:47,639 --> 00:59:50,339
entertaining to people like
myself, but I'm still not

949
00:59:50,339 --> 00:59:53,909
watching it so that doesn't do
them any good. And boom done.

950
00:59:54,299 --> 00:59:55,769
Over busted.

951
00:59:56,010 --> 01:00:01,290
Well, the one I identified is as
the core audience is The format

952
01:00:01,290 --> 01:00:06,090
of the show was blah blah blah
blah singing and dancing

953
01:00:06,450 --> 01:00:09,960
transition from rehearsal into
the real thing and back again

954
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:13,110
and blah blah blah blah I don't
care about the storyline or like

955
01:00:13,110 --> 01:00:13,980
Angelica Houston

956
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:16,980
I think that was her idea and
I'm i and they but they stopped

957
01:00:16,980 --> 01:00:17,880
doing they had entire

958
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:19,800
episodes with no singing and
dancing

959
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:25,080
plot what is the who wants a
plot Show Notes singing and

960
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:29,400
dancing now on it is the opinion
but looking back on this and

961
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:32,310
listening to you and it was
seeing the success of shows like

962
01:00:32,310 --> 01:00:37,230
Glee that and then if you take a
look at So You Think You Can

963
01:00:37,230 --> 01:00:39,660
Dance or America's Got Talent or
all these shows which are

964
01:00:39,660 --> 01:00:42,150
extremely popular some of them
they run two or three times a

965
01:00:42,150 --> 01:00:46,590
week, which have mostly singing
and dancing yes at America wants

966
01:00:46,590 --> 01:00:48,120
singing and dancing this

967
01:00:48,150 --> 01:00:50,460
at the chat room just pointed
out something very important.

968
01:00:50,460 --> 01:00:53,010
That doesn't happen often but
here it is. Sorry. little snide

969
01:00:53,010 --> 01:00:58,290
remark, Bollywood, Bollywood
plot always the same who gives a

970
01:00:58,290 --> 01:01:02,190
crap singing and dancing with
beautiful people? That's it.

971
01:01:04,230 --> 01:01:07,620
That's it so just singing and
dancing yet and Broadway shows

972
01:01:07,620 --> 01:01:10,530
are the big Broadway musicals
are mostly singing and dancing,

973
01:01:10,530 --> 01:01:11,550
and they're very effective.

974
01:01:11,580 --> 01:01:14,580
Orange is a new blank. They
almost screwed it up. They

975
01:01:14,580 --> 01:01:17,700
almost screwed up. Orange is the
new blank. What was it that

976
01:01:17,700 --> 01:01:21,150
attracted all audiences to
Orange is the New Black. I have

977
01:01:21,150 --> 01:01:24,930
no idea realistic lesbian sex.
This is simple. Every three

978
01:01:24,930 --> 01:01:28,140
episodes you have to have some
kind of realistic lesbian sex.

979
01:01:28,230 --> 01:01:32,070
They were the first eight
episodes of season two. I didn't

980
01:01:32,070 --> 01:01:35,490
watch any more until 910 1112
Then they picked it up a good

981
01:01:35,490 --> 01:01:37,230
again. It's so easy.

982
01:01:38,310 --> 01:01:40,770
Well, this again is the what we
were talking about earlier in

983
01:01:40,770 --> 01:01:44,130
the show, which is the your
branding is really comes from

984
01:01:44,130 --> 01:01:47,010
the other side of the equation.
You have to be listening

985
01:01:47,010 --> 01:01:49,710
customers, the ones who are
buying into it, that would be

986
01:01:49,710 --> 01:01:54,120
you in the case of that yes,
smash shows you would be a

987
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:58,590
better advisor, you running
through our consulting company.

988
01:02:00,150 --> 01:02:01,440
It's an NBC

989
01:02:01,470 --> 01:02:05,370
You mean the hugely successful
curry Devorah consulting

990
01:02:05,370 --> 01:02:09,870
organization? Yes, everybody
knows we actually put out one

991
01:02:09,900 --> 01:02:12,120
proposal and they didn't even
answer us.

992
01:02:13,710 --> 01:02:15,990
Well, that's because they
probably were stunned.

993
01:02:17,910 --> 01:02:24,330
Reasonable ideas that's returned
to the show 646 rundown we're

994
01:02:24,330 --> 01:02:29,580
gonna die poor All right. Even
marshy, marshy or marshy of

995
01:02:29,580 --> 01:02:33,300
Sunnyvale, California right down
the road here. 666 So he came in

996
01:02:33,300 --> 01:02:35,760
with a six six it sounds like
I'm maybe the first with the

997
01:02:36,090 --> 01:02:38,910
mark of the beast. The big beast
actually. When we first

998
01:02:38,910 --> 01:02:41,460
introduced it, we had a couple
so I think we had three we did

999
01:02:41,460 --> 01:02:44,250
Yeah, it's nice. I would I would
like to mention although it goes

1000
01:02:44,250 --> 01:02:48,060
without without saying at this
point that coverage and analysis

1001
01:02:48,060 --> 01:02:51,390
you both provide is invaluable.
John's breakdown of Ebola and

1002
01:02:51,390 --> 01:02:54,240
Adams continuing analysis of the
Israeli Moon

1003
01:02:56,070 --> 01:02:57,540
Why do you mock me?

1004
01:02:58,230 --> 01:03:05,820
are spot on maybe note something
he's in Sunnyvale. Thanks for

1005
01:03:05,820 --> 01:03:08,520
being one of the bastions of
honesty and reporting I'd like

1006
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:11,340
you to take this opportunity to
call out a few douchebags ready.

1007
01:03:11,370 --> 01:03:12,780
Oh, okay.

1008
01:03:12,780 --> 01:03:19,020
Yes, I am prepared. Pete Eric,

1009
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:20,430
what's the second one?

1010
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:31,170
Eric? Jack douchebag Okay, and
the rest of the unnamed boners

1011
01:03:31,350 --> 01:03:34,050
support the best podcast in the
universe you will obey if I

1012
01:03:34,050 --> 01:03:38,340
could make a request for some
jingles I'd like a an adult

1013
01:03:38,340 --> 01:03:43,200
Putin to to the head amazing and
a pigs in human clothing what is

1014
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:46,770
hola What is it an adult Putin?
Oh, just just a regular regular

1015
01:03:46,770 --> 01:03:47,340
Putin

1016
01:03:47,340 --> 01:03:50,370
that was not the kid a regular
Putin

1017
01:03:50,490 --> 01:03:54,060
and an amazing and pigs and
human clothing which is one of

1018
01:03:54,060 --> 01:03:54,630
my favorites. I

1019
01:03:54,630 --> 01:03:57,150
have to stand and Panda comm
obviously

1020
01:03:57,150 --> 01:04:06,870
Okay, yeah, here we go. That is
freedom

1021
01:04:20,790 --> 01:04:26,220
you've got karma. Nice.

1022
01:04:26,490 --> 01:04:31,080
Sir Don Tommaso de Toronto came
in with $646 which makes him the

1023
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:32,580
member of the 646 Club. We

1024
01:04:32,580 --> 01:04:35,580
we haven't had that in a long
time. Great. Thank you.

1025
01:04:35,730 --> 01:04:38,910
kettleby. It's gonna be it's
rare. Yeah. kettleby, Ontario,

1026
01:04:38,910 --> 01:04:42,360
and he just says a short note
just from dawn to Moscow to

1027
01:04:42,570 --> 01:04:47,400
Toronto. Here's my Pay Pal in
drome for episode 646. Hey,

1028
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:52,380
boners give a little okay. He
says that's a shout out and you

1029
01:04:52,380 --> 01:04:55,710
would like a little karma for
the rest of us. Absolutely.

1030
01:04:56,070 --> 01:04:57,780
You've got karma.

1031
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:03,750
Continuing with this a nice
group. And this came in as a

1032
01:05:03,750 --> 01:05:07,680
check from French Francis Sheehy
in Worcester, Massachusetts

1033
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:13,260
$500. And it just came in as a
straight up check in a piece of

1034
01:05:13,260 --> 01:05:16,410
blank with a piece of blank
paper in the mail. No, no, no

1035
01:05:16,410 --> 01:05:20,370
note, and this is what we're
talking about with the, you

1036
01:05:20,370 --> 01:05:27,180
know, very casual and meaningful
donation.

1037
01:05:27,330 --> 01:05:30,240
I got a check for $1,000 in the
mail yesterday.

1038
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:34,140
Okay. And it was just for your
voice. No,

1039
01:05:34,170 --> 01:05:38,250
no, no. It was from a it wasn't
an official looking envelope.

1040
01:05:38,340 --> 01:05:43,230
And it was, yeah, it. Didn't we
have this whole thing with us

1041
01:05:43,230 --> 01:05:45,900
all the time. But I haven't ever
seen this particular one. Isn't

1042
01:05:45,900 --> 01:05:48,960
there some rule against tricking
consumers? Yes, there's actually

1043
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:52,260
a law against what you did where
you're about to describe, I got

1044
01:05:52,260 --> 01:05:56,340
them when I was taking my
seminars and direct marketing.

1045
01:05:56,820 --> 01:05:59,700
They brought this up and you
can't do this, you can't do

1046
01:05:59,700 --> 01:06:02,010
anything. It makes it look like
there's a check inside.

1047
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:05,040
Well, it's not only it is a real
check, and it says this is a

1048
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:08,100
real check. And that had two
flyers, I'm sorry, I left it in

1049
01:06:08,100 --> 01:06:11,460
the in the great room, so I
can't get it to read it

1050
01:06:11,460 --> 01:06:16,320
verbatim. But I was I did set it
aside to discuss it had one note

1051
01:06:16,350 --> 01:06:19,320
in English one in Spanish, of
course, because we're really

1052
01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:23,190
about tricking our Mexican
friends here. And on the back,

1053
01:06:23,190 --> 01:06:26,310
it says endorse here and you can
catch this as a real check. But

1054
01:06:26,310 --> 01:06:30,540
it does by signing this, if you
agree to the terms of repayment,

1055
01:06:31,050 --> 01:06:35,220
and the repayment is and it even
says it right there. You will be

1056
01:06:35,220 --> 01:06:37,560
paying for this $1,000 check
which you may use for you can

1057
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:43,890
cash it get a $1,000 you will be
repaying $1,458 over the course

1058
01:06:43,890 --> 01:06:47,310
of the payments. So it's kind of
like a a credit card only it's

1059
01:06:47,310 --> 01:06:50,160
in the form of a cash check,
which is very appealing if

1060
01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:53,520
someone would need 1000 bucks
right away. Yeah. And what's

1061
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:58,200
interesting as I delved into it,
there is a handling fee or they

1062
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:01,110
call it something I can't
remember specifically, even if

1063
01:07:01,110 --> 01:07:05,760
you pay off the $1,000
Immediately, the $300 of the

1064
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:11,190
handling fee is due Regardless,
this is an unbelievable scam for

1065
01:07:11,190 --> 01:07:16,890
people who see a check and need
$1,000 And I was appalled. I was

1066
01:07:16,890 --> 01:07:19,920
just appalled This is being sent
out and that it's legal.

1067
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:24,030
It's probably not legal. Well,
somebody has to you know the

1068
01:07:24,030 --> 01:07:26,820
problem is there's so many of
these scams and so much

1069
01:07:26,820 --> 01:07:30,720
illegality going on through the
mail which is makes it very easy

1070
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:33,900
to prosecute. The prosecutors
aren't doing anything about this

1071
01:07:33,900 --> 01:07:37,890
stuff. It's just it's I don't
know what's going on. Get out.

1072
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:41,220
They don't care. That this was a
Pocahontas deal. This is

1073
01:07:41,220 --> 01:07:42,630
Elizabeth Warren who

1074
01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:47,640
Oh yeah, no. All over this and
she has done nothing. But ladies

1075
01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:51,990
and gentlemen, this contest is a
woman making his way to the

1076
01:07:51,990 --> 01:07:57,450
brain. Wave 333 pounds. Here's
what Ron do

1077
01:08:08,610 --> 01:08:10,380
David Foley came in I see

1078
01:08:10,410 --> 01:08:14,100
these are these are loyal
subjects of the Grand Duke who

1079
01:08:14,100 --> 01:08:14,340
sent

1080
01:08:14,970 --> 01:08:21,690
the Grand Duke of SC three to
$33.33 seems to be his favorite

1081
01:08:21,690 --> 01:08:22,470
thing of late

1082
01:08:22,500 --> 01:08:25,500
he's up there in the in the in
the earthquake zone isn't he's

1083
01:08:25,500 --> 01:08:25,590
in

1084
01:08:25,590 --> 01:08:29,430
Los Gatos, which is down south.
Oh, okay. south of San Jose.

1085
01:08:29,430 --> 01:08:29,850
Actually.

1086
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:30,900
He's okay. He's fine.

1087
01:08:31,649 --> 01:08:34,379
You know, that's, that's there's
word when that goes off down

1088
01:08:34,379 --> 01:08:37,289
there. It's nasty. Right in the
morning, John and Adam, thank

1089
01:08:37,289 --> 01:08:39,599
you for providing analysis and
insight that can be found

1090
01:08:39,629 --> 01:08:43,799
nowhere else. Please send a dose
of that wonderful no agenda

1091
01:08:43,799 --> 01:08:47,759
karma. I'd love to do that.
Karma.

1092
01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:53,040
No, where else?

1093
01:08:53,250 --> 01:08:55,110
What is that devices using?

1094
01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:59,940
Damn Astrid, the vibe counters
of Tokyo is also in with

1095
01:08:59,970 --> 01:09:02,340
$333.33. What

1096
01:09:02,340 --> 01:09:04,710
is the device you use for that?
It's just wonderful. Is that an

1097
01:09:04,710 --> 01:09:06,180
analog or digital device? This

1098
01:09:06,179 --> 01:09:08,759
thing right here that I'm
talking about right now? Yeah,

1099
01:09:08,789 --> 01:09:15,419
hello, people. This is a green
spot Irish whiskey tube that the

1100
01:09:15,419 --> 01:09:19,529
bottle of whiskey was in. And if
you kind of caulk it to the side

1101
01:09:19,529 --> 01:09:22,529
of your mouth and then talk into
it, it sounds like I'm in an

1102
01:09:22,709 --> 01:09:23,879
echo chamber.

1103
01:09:23,910 --> 01:09:27,150
It has a it has a one when you
do it really quietly and you

1104
01:09:27,150 --> 01:09:31,620
really close mic it it's, it's I
think it's a licensable sound.

1105
01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:32,700
You think so?

1106
01:09:34,260 --> 01:09:36,720
Yes, that is exactly what it is.

1107
01:09:36,930 --> 01:09:41,700
Okay. Anyway, it's a bit. This
is the real deal. We're not

1108
01:09:41,700 --> 01:09:46,680
you're not using electronic
gizmos and software I'm doing

1109
01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:49,620
that's a real deal to

1110
01:09:49,830 --> 01:09:54,330
Yes, that's true. This is true.
Those are that's very real.

1111
01:09:54,750 --> 01:09:58,770
Anyway, three and $33.33 from
her out of Tokyo, John and Adam,

1112
01:09:58,770 --> 01:10:02,940
you seem there Are you much on a
roll lately? I noticed I was

1113
01:10:02,940 --> 01:10:06,660
sitting on a bagel. I think it
was a sushi by big karma shot to

1114
01:10:06,660 --> 01:10:10,380
you another karma shot for all
the cover artists cover art

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01:10:10,380 --> 01:10:14,850
artists. Like gift wrapping on a
president makes my heart beat

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01:10:14,850 --> 01:10:16,080
faster. Oh,

1117
01:10:16,170 --> 01:10:20,520
let's just let's just re reread
what she says artists.

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01:10:20,850 --> 01:10:24,330
nother karma shot for all the
cover art artists. It slides

1119
01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:28,050
life gift wrapping on a present.
It makes your heart beat faster.

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01:10:28,050 --> 01:10:30,960
Her heart specifically hers.
Yeah, while she's talking about

1121
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:34,710
herself. Yeah. And one more
karma shot for all the dudes

1122
01:10:34,710 --> 01:10:39,420
called Ben, especially the ones
who eat octopus balls in Osaka.

1123
01:10:41,490 --> 01:10:42,060
Ah,

1124
01:10:42,809 --> 01:10:46,799
these are the guys who are at
the 50th birthday party. The

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01:10:46,799 --> 01:10:50,399
guys from Osaka the eaters?
Yeah. from Osaka. Exactly.

1126
01:10:52,440 --> 01:10:54,390
You've got karma. So

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01:10:54,390 --> 01:11:00,930
I'm glad that we are bridging
the the rivalry between Tokyo

1128
01:11:00,930 --> 01:11:06,300
and Osaka saga saga in Tokyo. So
she puts a little snide remark

1129
01:11:06,300 --> 01:11:09,630
in there that they eat octopus
balls. Yeah, but she still calls

1130
01:11:09,630 --> 01:11:12,660
them out for karma shot and she
appreciates the dude's name Ben

1131
01:11:12,660 --> 01:11:15,240
because she relies on them to

1132
01:11:15,900 --> 01:11:20,040
switch. She's a famous architect
that needs computers. And a lot

1133
01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:23,430
of them would think so in
today's world, especially in

1134
01:11:23,430 --> 01:11:24,900
your building big buildings.

1135
01:11:25,230 --> 01:11:27,900
They're building another huge
thing that's right on the

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01:11:27,900 --> 01:11:31,770
domain. Drag is Adama Yeah,
good, big things.

1137
01:11:32,309 --> 01:11:35,909
Jason Kieffer in Tallahassee,
Florida, we go down to Associate

1138
01:11:35,909 --> 01:11:44,129
Executive producers for show 646
to her $95.64 sends note in in

1139
01:11:44,129 --> 01:11:46,499
the morning and John and Adam on
the day before I wrote this, I

1140
01:11:46,499 --> 01:11:53,909
filled up my tank, and the gas
purchase came to 33 dot 33. This

1141
01:11:53,909 --> 01:11:57,689
was a message to the cosmos that
I needed to donate again. So I'm

1142
01:11:57,689 --> 01:12:03,329
sending you 29564 9564
represents the high temperature

1143
01:12:03,329 --> 01:12:08,579
and dew point at that time on
16th of August 2014. Nice plus

1144
01:12:08,579 --> 01:12:11,459
$200 Because it's worth it for
the best podcast in the

1145
01:12:11,459 --> 01:12:15,029
universe. Please give me karma
to start the semester. Ah, a

1146
01:12:15,029 --> 01:12:18,989
student? Uh huh. Started the
semester as I continue to study

1147
01:12:18,989 --> 01:12:22,139
the science that is causing the
climate to change. Oh, boy.

1148
01:12:22,139 --> 01:12:28,979
Thanks, Terry. You've got the

1149
01:12:29,009 --> 01:12:32,819
that Carrie cliff, we should
probably revisit it. He was

1150
01:12:32,819 --> 01:12:36,509
talking about believing the
science. If you believe in the

1151
01:12:36,509 --> 01:12:37,859
science, it's believed

1152
01:12:37,890 --> 01:12:40,860
in science. Was it believed in
science? Yeah, it wasn't because

1153
01:12:40,860 --> 01:12:44,070
I brought that up, because it's
like, it's like a faith thing.

1154
01:12:44,430 --> 01:12:47,100
So he would this he was a
science. He didn't think of

1155
01:12:47,100 --> 01:12:49,380
science as a methodology, which
is what Mike, let me do.

1156
01:12:49,769 --> 01:12:51,629
I have the clip here. Hold on,
let's just listen to it again,

1157
01:12:51,629 --> 01:12:53,909
because it's an important thing
he's doing here,

1158
01:12:53,910 --> 01:12:59,010
all of us in this room
understand. Climate change is

1159
01:12:59,010 --> 01:13:03,210
not a crisis of the future.
Climate change is here, now.

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01:13:04,110 --> 01:13:08,760
It's Happening. Happening all
over the world. It's not a

1161
01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:13,110
challenge that's somehow remote
and that people can grab on to.

1162
01:13:13,500 --> 01:13:17,880
And what's happening is the
science is screaming at us.

1163
01:13:18,540 --> 01:13:21,570
That's right. Ask any kid in
school, they understand what a

1164
01:13:21,570 --> 01:13:24,960
greenhouse is how it works.
Yeah, come on, why we call it

1165
01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:29,580
the greenhouse effect, they get
it. And here's what if you

1166
01:13:29,580 --> 01:13:30,180
accept

1167
01:13:30,330 --> 01:13:33,390
the science, if you accept the
science,

1168
01:13:33,870 --> 01:13:37,410
if you accept that the science
is causing climate change,

1169
01:13:37,440 --> 01:13:39,990
if you accept the science, this
is what was pointed out to me an

1170
01:13:39,990 --> 01:13:43,350
email if you accept the Lord
Jesus Christ as your Savior, if

1171
01:13:43,350 --> 01:13:46,230
you accept the science, that's
the analogy and

1172
01:13:46,230 --> 01:13:49,560
he says the science this is what
they went from this clip what we

1173
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:53,250
got away from now I remember it.
If you replay that, in part,

1174
01:13:53,250 --> 01:13:56,850
again, he says if you accept
that science is causing climate

1175
01:13:56,850 --> 01:13:57,420
change,

1176
01:13:57,900 --> 01:14:01,470
if you accept that the science
is causing climate to change.

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01:14:03,570 --> 01:14:06,810
I think the science is causing
the climate to change. I this is

1178
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:11,220
again, he is telling the
Absolute Truth. The science is

1179
01:14:11,220 --> 01:14:16,080
causing the climate to change.
And the climate change is really

1180
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:18,450
nothing but numbers and data and
new stories.

1181
01:14:18,630 --> 01:14:23,070
Yeah, projections and it is good
pewter models that are bullcrap.

1182
01:14:23,070 --> 01:14:23,220
And

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01:14:23,220 --> 01:14:26,130
I accept the science as my new
religion.

1184
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:30,000
Essentially, that's what the
idea is.

1185
01:14:35,310 --> 01:14:40,650
I have an aunt in here that is
wandering around on the mic.

1186
01:14:40,710 --> 01:14:42,300
Shut up already.

1187
01:14:42,780 --> 01:14:45,600
Science. You want to fry him?

1188
01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:48,330
I can't see him here.

1189
01:14:49,590 --> 01:14:51,090
Pull out the tube man tube him.

1190
01:14:51,420 --> 01:14:56,970
No, I'm not gonna tube that pull
out the tube. All right. Marvin

1191
01:14:56,970 --> 01:15:02,580
Bretagne or Britain in Bellevue,
Nebraska. Aska 234561 of my

1192
01:15:02,580 --> 01:15:07,560
absolute favorite donation let
me see we have a note from him

1193
01:15:08,250 --> 01:15:11,340
sorry I should have done this
earlier I didn't notice is blank

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01:15:11,340 --> 01:15:14,100
br ITT AI NBR I

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01:15:14,220 --> 01:15:15,060
don't want I'm just gonna

1196
01:15:18,119 --> 01:15:21,509
leave it here it is producer
donation no for Episode Six. No

1197
01:15:21,509 --> 01:15:26,969
this is an old one. No sorry
routine behind it.

1198
01:15:27,690 --> 01:15:31,740
one nostril is like completely
stuffed up and I can't seem to

1199
01:15:31,740 --> 01:15:33,000
clear it out today. I'm sorry.

1200
01:15:34,260 --> 01:15:38,310
Sorry for cussing at yourself.
All right, didn't we have you

1201
01:15:38,310 --> 01:15:43,140
have anything from Martin? Or
I'm sorry. From whom? Marvin.

1202
01:15:43,260 --> 01:15:50,730
Marvin retain. Let me check my
mind. Let's see. Marvin just

1203
01:15:50,730 --> 01:15:55,980
done this donation before I know
it this is it. Yeah, and it came

1204
01:15:55,980 --> 01:15:58,920
in from Okay, here's what the
problem is his his emails got

1205
01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:02,790
this D it's it's done. Okay, I'm
not gonna say what His email is

1206
01:16:02,790 --> 01:16:03,960
but I don't have

1207
01:16:05,610 --> 01:16:11,160
I don't have an okay I gotta
hang on a second. Okay, we you

1208
01:16:11,190 --> 01:16:17,670
are blah blah blah. Doing there
it is. Oh, good. Cheese.

1209
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:25,050
No, it's just names and this is
for 646 Okay, how many John is

1210
01:16:25,050 --> 01:16:27,300
italicized paragraph is for me
so I don't want to read this

1211
01:16:27,300 --> 01:16:31,710
part. This is a okay, you gotta
get your pen out.

1212
01:16:33,450 --> 01:16:35,460
I don't actually use a pen on
the show but okay.

1213
01:16:36,990 --> 01:16:40,530
I do okay, that's funny. I do I
use a pen. So I write in a

1214
01:16:40,530 --> 01:16:44,010
little book. Donation birthday
caught from my wife.

1215
01:16:44,070 --> 01:16:45,750
Okay, this is from

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01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:57,270
Lee Britton. br ITT AI en tu tu
I'm looking for his wife's name

1217
01:16:57,300 --> 01:17:01,230
isn't his is his is his name
Marvin or Li? It's on here.

1218
01:17:01,230 --> 01:17:03,240
It's Lee. I don't know where the
Marvin comes from. It comes from

1219
01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:10,290
the Pay Pal account all the way
after the to do beginners or the

1220
01:17:10,290 --> 01:17:14,220
Bellevue strike again, I don't
have a special name for 23456

1221
01:17:14,220 --> 01:17:16,830
donation but I wanted to give
you a donation ending with the

1222
01:17:16,830 --> 01:17:20,280
six but couldn't swing the one
at the front. Maybe this can be

1223
01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:25,260
called the minus one donation.
234560. I got it. I like it.

1224
01:17:25,500 --> 01:17:27,720
There's a combination donation
birthday call from my wife

1225
01:17:27,720 --> 01:17:28,350
Peggy.

1226
01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:32,220
Okay, Peggy got it. Hey, Peggy.

1227
01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:34,770
In keeping with her last
donation, this is her birthday

1228
01:17:34,770 --> 01:17:38,490
present. That's nice. Donating
is addicting and I have a

1229
01:17:38,490 --> 01:17:41,010
birthday coming up in October
for us a knighthood is in our

1230
01:17:41,010 --> 01:17:43,470
future. I know a knighthood is
generally a singular status but

1231
01:17:43,470 --> 01:17:47,940
for the past big gulf 24 years
24 year anniversary when we have

1232
01:17:48,150 --> 01:17:51,180
Yes, we have done nearly
everything together. So our

1233
01:17:51,180 --> 01:17:55,860
future knighthood would be as a
couple Ah. So he needs the

1234
01:17:55,860 --> 01:17:56,730
following clips.

1235
01:17:57,240 --> 01:17:58,200
Right. But when is

1236
01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:01,920
her birthday? The 24th of two
decimal places today.

1237
01:18:02,100 --> 01:18:06,840
Today. It is Tuesday. And his
name is Marvin Lee Britton.

1238
01:18:07,830 --> 01:18:10,860
Okay, apparently he's either him
or someone's in the chat room

1239
01:18:10,860 --> 01:18:11,730
who knows what's going on?

1240
01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:14,880
Oh, it's probably him. Okay,
though he's wants to follow in

1241
01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:19,950
clip combination. Can I put my
pen down? And then he says yes.

1242
01:18:20,220 --> 01:18:23,970
Then he says the following which
I think we have to read. Please

1243
01:18:23,970 --> 01:18:27,810
remind producers to stick to a
three clip limit. Yes, thank

1244
01:18:27,810 --> 01:18:33,780
you. Okay, this is the first one
Manning's Boom shakalaka Jehan

1245
01:18:33,780 --> 01:18:38,280
see JCD is echoing you will obey
followed by a couple of live

1246
01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:42,090
seconds of JCD tech grouts
telling us to throw away our AI

1247
01:18:42,570 --> 01:18:47,670
Okay, so we need to not detect
grouch that's some guy and go

1248
01:18:47,670 --> 01:18:53,850
Boom shakalaka followed by a
will obey will obey followed by

1249
01:18:53,850 --> 01:18:54,690
some kind of

1250
01:18:55,530 --> 01:18:58,440
thing from the tech grouch.
You've been playing it?

1251
01:18:58,950 --> 01:19:02,970
Oh, no, it's been turned into a
into a jingle and it's not like

1252
01:19:02,970 --> 01:19:06,060
I decided that would be funny to
play. It's not my best thing. Go

1253
01:19:06,060 --> 01:19:13,380
Boom. Shakalaka Vaughn my phone

1254
01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:28,770
my short one for comic genius.
Old Baby is cold.

1255
01:19:31,980 --> 01:19:35,490
Okay, that's Peggy

1256
01:19:36,330 --> 01:19:38,010
Marinelli and Peggy Lee.

1257
01:19:39,060 --> 01:19:40,260
Lee. Wow, I'm

1258
01:19:40,260 --> 01:19:44,340
just making that up. Oh, three
clip limit everybody.

1259
01:19:44,790 --> 01:19:48,840
Here we go back to the back to
the list. Yes, Joshua was still

1260
01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:52,890
well in San Diego, California.
23343 Hi, Chip and chop. I've

1261
01:19:52,890 --> 01:19:55,980
been longtime pre donor. For all
you listeners who remember what

1262
01:19:55,980 --> 01:19:59,520
a pre donor is and still haven't
donated. I want to call you all

1263
01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:04,410
out and As douchebags Well hey,
thank you my wife's favorite

1264
01:20:04,410 --> 01:20:07,200
numbers 43 and her favorite food
is mac and cheese and I got

1265
01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:09,570
hooked on the show when I
realized my wife is probably a

1266
01:20:09,570 --> 01:20:12,870
government handler. I would like
to request that Adam please

1267
01:20:12,870 --> 01:20:16,770
honor me by not de douching. But
by pulling out three old random

1268
01:20:16,770 --> 01:20:19,590
jingles we haven't heard in a
long time. Thanks for keeping

1269
01:20:19,590 --> 01:20:23,370
the show going. So that so long
that I would hate myself too

1270
01:20:23,370 --> 01:20:24,990
much not to donate.

1271
01:20:26,430 --> 01:20:29,970
Okay. Well, this is you know,
there's

1272
01:20:30,060 --> 01:20:32,730
it's a challenge for Adam to do
this is a challenge.

1273
01:20:33,480 --> 01:20:37,050
And the thing is, I wasn't just,
I don't know, let me see I've

1274
01:20:37,050 --> 01:20:47,610
got I'm just about to and I'm
faltering, so I'll just grab I

1275
01:20:47,610 --> 01:20:49,920
don't know man. Do you have
anything you like this? You

1276
01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:52,260
know, there's comes a point when
there's a lot of

1277
01:20:52,260 --> 01:20:54,780
old ones that you haven't played
for a long time. Okay, hold

1278
01:20:54,780 --> 01:20:57,390
on here. Now, here's what I'll
do. I will sort the folder by

1279
01:20:57,390 --> 01:20:59,850
date. Yeah, just play the three
old ones.

1280
01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:07,140
Okay, sorting folder. Again, do
that. That's nice.

1281
01:21:07,260 --> 01:21:12,690
Sorting folder. Sorting folder.
Sorting folder. Sorting folder.

1282
01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:16,350
Okay, we got three here we go.
No agenda Shall we get kicked to

1283
01:21:16,350 --> 01:21:22,740
the crotch? Your slaves can get
the mac and cheese. Macaroni and

1284
01:21:22,740 --> 01:21:27,450
cheese. melted together. Mac and
cheese mac and cheese mac and

1285
01:21:27,450 --> 01:21:27,780
cheese.

1286
01:21:28,139 --> 01:21:29,609
Adios. mofo.

1287
01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:32,790
You've got karma.

1288
01:21:32,850 --> 01:21:33,810
That's the one you want.

1289
01:21:35,310 --> 01:21:41,760
All right. Okay. Finally, ad lib
booty a from Hesperia,

1290
01:21:41,760 --> 01:21:44,640
California tuner dollar. So it'd
be our last Associate Executive

1291
01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:50,280
Producer. A lot of producers
today. He says you guys are a

1292
01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:57,090
beacon of light over the dark bs
of the lamestream media. Keep up

1293
01:21:57,090 --> 01:22:00,240
the good work. Short and simple.

1294
01:22:00,270 --> 01:22:02,670
Thank you. And the karma of
course.

1295
01:22:03,750 --> 01:22:07,200
We want to thank you what your
play play while you

1296
01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:10,380
were talking over the guy was
right there at the pause. I'm

1297
01:22:10,380 --> 01:22:13,020
sorry I misjudged your timing.
We'll try it again.

1298
01:22:14,610 --> 01:22:16,320
You've got karma. I

1299
01:22:17,430 --> 01:22:20,010
want to thank everybody remind
that we do remind everyone we

1300
01:22:20,010 --> 01:22:23,310
have a show on Thursday. We have
a good group of producers today.

1301
01:22:23,310 --> 01:22:26,340
Want to thank every one of them
and also the other helpers and

1302
01:22:26,340 --> 01:22:31,230
we want to remind people it's
divorce.org/na for the upcoming

1303
01:22:31,230 --> 01:22:38,640
show. Also, I want to make one
mention here. Let's see where it

1304
01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:43,620
is. Yeah, we have a note from
forbearance we stopped

1305
01:22:43,620 --> 01:22:45,960
forbearance we stopped hold
forbearance. What's up with the

1306
01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:49,650
barrens? Well barren desert J de
came in with a late donation

1307
01:22:49,650 --> 01:22:51,780
which will show up on the
Thursday show, but he wanted to

1308
01:22:51,780 --> 01:22:57,870
make sure that we got through a
6464 donation in anticipation of

1309
01:22:57,900 --> 01:23:03,060
my upcoming today's show, mac
and cheese analysis. Oh, gosh.

1310
01:23:03,780 --> 01:23:08,190
And he vows to keep well, that
was my tomorrow was Mac and

1311
01:23:08,190 --> 01:23:11,400
Cheese Day, my friend can't be
in denial.

1312
01:23:12,690 --> 01:23:15,300
May I? Well, I'll wait for the
analysis. I have something to

1313
01:23:15,300 --> 01:23:16,290
say about mac and cheese.

1314
01:23:16,710 --> 01:23:20,130
Okay. And anyway, just wanted to
get his word in. All right.

1315
01:23:20,460 --> 01:23:23,010
Well, thank you all very much.
These are actual credits. I

1316
01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:25,980
explained this to many people
who are trying to figure out how

1317
01:23:25,980 --> 01:23:30,900
the show works. Just like
Hollywood, we have executive and

1318
01:23:30,900 --> 01:23:34,860
Associate Executive producers,
and they really produce the show

1319
01:23:34,950 --> 01:23:39,000
with not just their direction.
But with their financial

1320
01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:42,570
support. These are real credits,
no less than anything else you

1321
01:23:42,570 --> 01:23:45,420
might see on any of the
mainstream shows. In fact, many

1322
01:23:45,420 --> 01:23:47,610
of the credits you'll see
executive and Associate

1323
01:23:47,610 --> 01:23:50,790
Executive producers of new shows
have a smaller audience than

1324
01:23:50,790 --> 01:23:54,450
this the best podcast in the
universe. True. And as the only

1325
01:23:54,450 --> 01:23:57,810
way we can support ourselves, we
do support ourselves, we do not

1326
01:23:57,810 --> 01:24:02,130
have advertising, which is how
we actually able to discuss many

1327
01:24:02,130 --> 01:24:06,030
of the things, the end, the end
the format of the show, we do

1328
01:24:06,030 --> 01:24:08,670
not have to break for anything,
we can go as long or shorter as

1329
01:24:08,670 --> 01:24:14,070
we want. Nothing is off the
table Ever. Which sometimes

1330
01:24:14,070 --> 01:24:19,410
leads to hilarity to
vorak.org/and. Of course, we can

1331
01:24:19,410 --> 01:24:22,920
always count on everybody out
there the producers to propagate

1332
01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:23,520
our formula.

1333
01:24:23,580 --> 01:24:28,260
Our formula is this. We go out.
We had people in the mouth

1334
01:24:40,410 --> 01:24:43,890
and we don't have to do any pigs
and human clothing because we've

1335
01:24:43,890 --> 01:24:44,910
already done that.

1336
01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:50,280
Yeah. And now, at the beginning
of the show, we kind of got on a

1337
01:24:50,280 --> 01:24:52,950
little track and then we went
off into another dimension and

1338
01:24:52,950 --> 01:24:55,770
which was very interesting, but
I'm gonna go back to talking a

1339
01:24:55,770 --> 01:24:58,830
little bit about some of the
battles that the United States

1340
01:24:58,830 --> 01:25:01,230
is fighting and around the
world.

1341
01:25:01,530 --> 01:25:06,150
And I would say one of those
would be Cal

1342
01:25:07,950 --> 01:25:10,980
caliphates definitely on the
list but so I ran into this clip

1343
01:25:10,980 --> 01:25:15,150
that picked it off the Tom Hogan
thumb Hogan show and it was with

1344
01:25:15,180 --> 01:25:15,720
who's

1345
01:25:16,349 --> 01:25:19,679
Hogan? Tom Hogan Hogan? I'm
thinking

1346
01:25:20,550 --> 01:25:24,180
the Is this the all you're
thinking a Hartman? Yeah, I

1347
01:25:24,180 --> 01:25:27,360
think it's should be thumb
Hogan. It okay. Just so I

1348
01:25:27,360 --> 01:25:29,910
understand she Thumma Hogan used
to be an editor of InfoWorld. I

1349
01:25:29,910 --> 01:25:30,540
shouldn't probably

1350
01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:33,840
use this. Just so I understand.
Okay, so

1351
01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:35,220
we get some Hartmann

1352
01:25:35,250 --> 01:25:37,440
Wait a minute. Wait a minute.
Wait a minute. You have to wait

1353
01:25:37,440 --> 01:25:40,020
a minute. If you're opening up a
segment, we need to open up the

1354
01:25:40,020 --> 01:25:46,290
segment. First, don't you?

1355
01:25:48,630 --> 01:25:52,830
Well, no, no, it's funny. You
you be anticipated. The thumb on

1356
01:25:52,830 --> 01:25:54,450
Ferguson police. Ah, it's

1357
01:25:54,450 --> 01:25:57,870
the wrong limb. Wrong. flouse
Crap. Oh, sorry. Yes.

1358
01:25:57,870 --> 01:26:00,360
Sorry. That's it. So you know,
that's the way the show works.

1359
01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:05,940
You do 90% 95% 98% of the time
you nail it. But this time? No.

1360
01:26:06,810 --> 01:26:07,380
This is the

1361
01:26:08,490 --> 01:26:09,240
buzzing myself.

1362
01:26:09,269 --> 01:26:13,739
This is the clip from Tom
Hayden. Okay, now, he thought I

1363
01:26:13,739 --> 01:26:17,729
had Tom on his show. So it was a
thumb and Tom show for a while.

1364
01:26:18,209 --> 01:26:21,059
And and when he played this
clip, there's a there's an

1365
01:26:21,059 --> 01:26:24,449
interesting little tidbit in
here that I want to bring in at

1366
01:26:24,449 --> 01:26:28,499
the end. And it's going to it's
kind of a Mind Blow. I shall

1367
01:26:28,500 --> 01:26:31,590
be quiet throughout the entire
clip is what you're suggesting I

1368
01:26:31,590 --> 01:26:31,920
do,

1369
01:26:32,309 --> 01:26:35,129
man. Yeah, yeah, it would be
okay. Hi, Tom.

1370
01:26:35,130 --> 01:26:35,730
How are you?

1371
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:39,480
I'm well, what is the long war
doctrine? You've been writing

1372
01:26:39,480 --> 01:26:42,030
about this? Tell it tell us
about it. And who's behind it?

1373
01:26:43,500 --> 01:26:43,860
Well,

1374
01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:49,920
I didn't know anything about it
till 12 years ago, I'm holding

1375
01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:54,990
up a book edited by Andrew
Bacevich called the Long War to

1376
01:26:54,990 --> 01:26:58,980
doctrine that was invented by
people in the Pentagon about

1377
01:26:58,980 --> 01:27:07,500
2004. They said it's going to be
a long war, stretching maybe 80

1378
01:27:07,500 --> 01:27:12,210
years. I think that's because
the long war against the Soviet

1379
01:27:12,210 --> 01:27:16,800
Union lasted 80 years. That
would be about 15 presidencies.

1380
01:27:17,070 --> 01:27:22,920
God knows how many trillions of
dollars that we don't have. And

1381
01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:26,760
one of these authors, the chief
chief adviser to General

1382
01:27:26,760 --> 01:27:31,350
Petraeus said that at the time
that Iraq was just a small war,

1383
01:27:31,500 --> 01:27:36,810
in the context of a long one. I
only offered this advice to help

1384
01:27:36,810 --> 01:27:43,980
people trying to figure out
what's going on, you know? How

1385
01:27:43,980 --> 01:27:49,590
can this be going on forever.
And there is a logic to it, just

1386
01:27:49,590 --> 01:27:56,490
as there was the Cold War, the
logic is to defeat so called

1387
01:27:56,490 --> 01:28:01,470
Muslim extremism over a number
of battlefields over a number of

1388
01:28:01,470 --> 01:28:08,340
decades. In the words of Bruce
ryedale, CIA, analyst and

1389
01:28:08,340 --> 01:28:13,680
advisor to President Obama
recently, we have to stop. We

1390
01:28:13,680 --> 01:28:18,930
have to, we have to keep killing
them till they stop killing us.

1391
01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:24,270
All right. So the one thing I
thought this was interesting,

1392
01:28:24,270 --> 01:28:27,150
because the long war apparently
is some is a doctrine, like

1393
01:28:27,150 --> 01:28:31,890
policy and policy document may
be underway. But the unique part

1394
01:28:31,890 --> 01:28:37,590
of this was, it was formulated
in 2004. What else happened in

1395
01:28:37,590 --> 01:28:38,490
2004,

1396
01:28:38,519 --> 01:28:43,079
while we were in Iraq in
2003 2004,

1397
01:28:43,140 --> 01:28:48,630
was a presidential election. And
this is the year that Wesley

1398
01:28:48,630 --> 01:28:51,780
Clark was given the the seven
names

1399
01:28:51,809 --> 01:28:56,669
Ah, well, hold on. First, let's
review the West Clark seven.

1400
01:28:57,720 --> 01:29:02,040
So I came back to see him a few
weeks later. And by that time,

1401
01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:04,380
we were bombing in Afghanistan.
I said, Are we still going to

1402
01:29:04,380 --> 01:29:07,500
war with Iraq? And he said, Oh,
it's worse than that. He said,

1403
01:29:07,620 --> 01:29:09,960
He reached over on his desk. He
picked up a piece of paper. He

1404
01:29:09,960 --> 01:29:13,440
said, I just he said, I just got
this down from upstairs main

1405
01:29:13,440 --> 01:29:16,320
Secretary Defense Office today.
And he said this a memo that

1406
01:29:16,320 --> 01:29:20,610
describes how we're going to
take out seven countries in five

1407
01:29:20,610 --> 01:29:24,720
years, starting with Iraq and
then Syria, Lebanon, Libya,

1408
01:29:24,720 --> 01:29:27,480
Somalia, Sudan, and finishing
off Iran.

1409
01:29:29,010 --> 01:29:33,000
West Clarke was on CNN.

1410
01:29:34,860 --> 01:29:39,150
And if he doesn't show up that
often on via remote when he

1411
01:29:39,150 --> 01:29:41,610
does, there's a message you
know, it's not just hanging out

1412
01:29:41,610 --> 01:29:43,740
in the studio. You want to hear
that real quick. But he Yeah,

1413
01:29:43,799 --> 01:29:47,639
there are a lot of mixed motives
in all of the factional fighting

1414
01:29:47,669 --> 01:29:49,439
around Syria, but he's

1415
01:29:49,500 --> 01:29:54,300
he is when you listen to this
guy, even though he is a total

1416
01:29:54,300 --> 01:29:58,440
shill and all in key messages so
beautifully. So when he says

1417
01:29:58,440 --> 01:30:02,700
there's many motives he's not
Not kidding. He's not kidding.

1418
01:30:02,760 --> 01:30:05,370
It's not just the one we're
being told here at home.

1419
01:30:05,580 --> 01:30:08,220
But But what comes through
clearly is the United States.

1420
01:30:08,310 --> 01:30:12,300
We're reevaluating policies. And
I think you're gonna see us go

1421
01:30:12,300 --> 01:30:15,300
into Syria with combat
multipliers with airstrikes,

1422
01:30:15,330 --> 01:30:16,980
combat multipliers.

1423
01:30:18,119 --> 01:30:21,509
I love that. There's more.
There's more coming. Come that

1424
01:30:21,569 --> 01:30:24,629
well, there's a lot of good
words in this episode of The no

1425
01:30:24,629 --> 01:30:25,769
agenda show be one so

1426
01:30:25,770 --> 01:30:27,270
suitable intelligence, is there

1427
01:30:27,359 --> 01:30:28,799
suitable intelligence?

1428
01:30:30,720 --> 01:30:32,730
I just love stopping and
listening with

1429
01:30:32,730 --> 01:30:35,760
suitable intelligence. What is
unsuitable intelligence?

1430
01:30:35,820 --> 01:30:36,630
Snowden?

1431
01:30:38,490 --> 01:30:40,740
Think it's very clear from
General Dempsey his comment

1432
01:30:40,740 --> 01:30:43,860
yesterday that we don't
anticipate giving isis a

1433
01:30:43,860 --> 01:30:46,320
sanctuary? The How do you not

1434
01:30:46,320 --> 01:30:49,560
give them a sanctuary without
going against the thing, General

1435
01:30:49,560 --> 01:30:53,160
Clark that this President has
has AIC made a key part of his

1436
01:30:53,160 --> 01:30:56,010
legacy, which is, I'm the
president who got America out of

1437
01:30:56,010 --> 01:30:59,670
two wars. That is what he ran
on. That is what he has done.

1438
01:30:59,670 --> 01:31:02,760
And now not only is it the
possibility of whatever word

1439
01:31:02,760 --> 01:31:06,540
you'd like to use, but, you
know, a military involvement in

1440
01:31:06,540 --> 01:31:08,910
one of the countries he
supposedly got this country out

1441
01:31:08,910 --> 01:31:09,150
of?

1442
01:31:09,660 --> 01:31:11,640
Well, I think what the
President's gonna say is, he's

1443
01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:14,640
the president united states
who's working to keep America

1444
01:31:14,640 --> 01:31:17,250
safe from terrorists, I'm gonna
wait for it who

1445
01:31:17,250 --> 01:31:17,670
is

1446
01:31:17,849 --> 01:31:22,739
come home? Attention attention.
There is a country who needs to

1447
01:31:22,739 --> 01:31:23,399
pay attention.

1448
01:31:23,790 --> 01:31:26,970
And that's why he took out Osama
bin Laden, and that's why he's

1449
01:31:26,970 --> 01:31:31,980
gonna go after ISIS. They are a
threat. They do. But but the key

1450
01:31:31,980 --> 01:31:34,980
thing here is the United States
is not going to do this alone.

1451
01:31:34,980 --> 01:31:37,320
We've got to get our regional
allies in there. And I want to

1452
01:31:37,320 --> 01:31:40,620
see the Saudis show some
leadership here. They're after

1453
01:31:40,620 --> 01:31:43,770
all, the one country in the
region that is the most

1454
01:31:43,770 --> 01:31:47,100
threatened because how could you
have an Islamic caliphate if you

1455
01:31:47,100 --> 01:31:51,930
don't control Mecca and Medina,
so one way or another, that is,

1456
01:31:51,930 --> 01:31:56,250
is coming after the Saudis and
they need to take action now, to

1457
01:31:56,250 --> 01:32:00,150
go after the is not stand back?
Go after it. Now.

1458
01:32:00,180 --> 01:32:03,330
Get off your golden toilet,
bitches, that it's

1459
01:32:03,330 --> 01:32:06,180
the clip of the day you have to
play it. I'm sorry. Really. It's

1460
01:32:06,180 --> 01:32:07,920
extremely important because

1461
01:32:07,950 --> 01:32:10,740
it's an important clip. I agree.
Well, thank you very much. I

1462
01:32:10,740 --> 01:32:14,460
mean, I think there's more to
it, but I'll take it anytime I

1463
01:32:14,460 --> 01:32:19,590
can get clinical. This is this
is indeed very big and very

1464
01:32:19,590 --> 01:32:24,000
important clip. It's very, very
big information. And, and I have

1465
01:32:24,000 --> 01:32:26,430
to say, again, this is the new
setup that I have and

1466
01:32:26,430 --> 01:32:30,540
everything's all fixed and and I
have now a scanning system on

1467
01:32:30,540 --> 01:32:33,690
the television that continuously
changes channels, but it's all

1468
01:32:33,690 --> 01:32:36,600
being recorded so I can swing it
back. I record it boom, I've got

1469
01:32:36,600 --> 01:32:40,680
it. It's great. Of course I'm a
boring husband I sit at home all

1470
01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:41,220
day and my

1471
01:32:41,880 --> 01:32:46,710
wife is galavanting Nice. What
are you doing? Parties

1472
01:32:46,740 --> 01:32:48,210
are you married to that guy?

1473
01:32:49,380 --> 01:32:50,700
Are you married to that guy?

1474
01:32:54,210 --> 01:32:56,430
I have a couple more things I'd
really love to move along I

1475
01:32:56,430 --> 01:32:59,400
don't know if you wanted to
circle back to to the doctrine

1476
01:32:59,400 --> 01:33:00,960
with with West Clark's I

1477
01:33:00,990 --> 01:33:04,770
go we got we just wanted to get
that into the into play an eye

1478
01:33:04,770 --> 01:33:05,130
on it.

1479
01:33:05,340 --> 01:33:12,090
So let's circle right back to
Saudi Arabia. The mat and hearts

1480
01:33:12,090 --> 01:33:15,810
show this is our friend Matt
from the from the Associated

1481
01:33:15,810 --> 01:33:19,290
Press. And it's actually a two
parter. Let me get both pieces

1482
01:33:19,290 --> 01:33:24,060
here. This is not the President
was talking about hey, we're

1483
01:33:24,060 --> 01:33:26,790
gonna have you kill in America.
We're going to end this way we

1484
01:33:26,790 --> 01:33:31,410
will be talking about folly. Jim
Foley if you kill America's will

1485
01:33:31,410 --> 01:33:33,810
come after you want to kill you.
But you know, hey, we need to

1486
01:33:33,810 --> 01:33:36,720
get everyone involved in ISIS.
It's yeah, but if you will gonna

1487
01:33:36,720 --> 01:33:39,540
kill you if you kill Americans.
And so mad is kind of saying

1488
01:33:39,540 --> 01:33:42,540
hey, what's up? What is the
deal? Are we waiting for

1489
01:33:42,540 --> 01:33:46,500
everybody? Does everybody agree?
Are we all on the same page? He

1490
01:33:46,500 --> 01:33:50,820
is obviously short circuiting
Murray's brain, which is kind of

1491
01:33:50,820 --> 01:33:51,630
funny to watch with a

1492
01:33:51,630 --> 01:33:54,330
broad statement about the fact
that this isn't a US fight

1493
01:33:54,330 --> 01:33:57,150
against ISIL This is a fight
that every country should feel

1494
01:33:57,210 --> 01:33:58,470
deeply about and should take off

1495
01:33:58,500 --> 01:34:01,350
I guess I'm just wondering what
why did he feel compelled to say

1496
01:34:01,380 --> 01:34:02,640
something like this? If

1497
01:34:03,270 --> 01:34:05,460
I'm sorry, I know this start

1498
01:34:07,440 --> 01:34:09,450
after that long lecture No,

1499
01:34:09,809 --> 01:34:14,159
no What what happened is this is
a clip that I had set up and

1500
01:34:14,159 --> 01:34:15,239
then I didn't this isn't

1501
01:34:15,240 --> 01:34:18,750
a US by ISIL This is a fight
that every country should feel

1502
01:34:18,840 --> 01:34:20,100
deeply about and should take off

1503
01:34:20,100 --> 01:34:22,950
I guess I'm just wondering what
why did he feel compelled to say

1504
01:34:22,980 --> 01:34:26,220
something like this? If in fact,
everything is going along

1505
01:34:26,490 --> 01:34:28,590
swimmingly? According to me we
would

1506
01:34:28,590 --> 01:34:30,180
be the last people to say
everything's going along

1507
01:34:30,180 --> 01:34:32,850
swimmingly. Notice how he uses
this first episode.

1508
01:34:33,179 --> 01:34:37,439
But if you're if you're already
happy with what the people and

1509
01:34:37,439 --> 01:34:43,139
governments around the Middle
East are doing, say think

1510
01:34:43,139 --> 01:34:43,229
they're

1511
01:34:43,230 --> 01:34:46,530
dating. I think the I think this
is a lover's spat actually,

1512
01:34:47,370 --> 01:34:48,540
to extract the cancer

1513
01:34:48,570 --> 01:34:51,570
declared I would nobody's happy
today about anything related to

1514
01:34:51,570 --> 01:34:51,750
that

1515
01:34:51,780 --> 01:34:54,630
go well, alright, happy is not
the right word. If you're

1516
01:34:54,630 --> 01:34:59,340
already satisfied or believe
that everyone peoples across the

1517
01:34:59,340 --> 01:35:02,340
Middle East or already doing
everything they can to extract

1518
01:35:02,340 --> 01:35:03,720
that's also not what I said.
Those are

1519
01:35:03,930 --> 01:35:07,620
not what I said, to find out
what I know the answer was

1520
01:35:07,620 --> 01:35:09,780
we don't have evidence that
governments are financially

1521
01:35:09,780 --> 01:35:13,770
supporting ISIS. Okay. But we
need all the governments in the

1522
01:35:13,770 --> 01:35:16,650
region to work together with us
to fight ISIS.

1523
01:35:18,270 --> 01:35:22,140
Wasn't it claimed early on that
it was Qatar that was financing

1524
01:35:22,140 --> 01:35:25,440
these guys course, of course,
this is now nobody's financing

1525
01:35:25,440 --> 01:35:27,390
them, and they got all this
money. Are you kidding me?

1526
01:35:27,840 --> 01:35:33,990
It's all falling apart and poor
Marie is being held. She's kind

1527
01:35:33,990 --> 01:35:37,980
of good at it. Because she's so
annoying in so many ways. I

1528
01:35:38,010 --> 01:35:39,600
sometimes forget what was said.

1529
01:35:39,960 --> 01:35:43,740
But clearly, it's a threat that
that's grown. And clearly, I

1530
01:35:43,740 --> 01:35:44,370
think the what?

1531
01:35:45,000 --> 01:35:46,500
I'm going to try to be
confrontational. I'm just trying

1532
01:35:46,500 --> 01:35:46,770
to figure out.

1533
01:35:47,250 --> 01:35:50,790
Now they are said there, they're
having sex. There. I'm not

1534
01:35:50,790 --> 01:35:52,140
trying to be confrontational
honey.

1535
01:35:53,970 --> 01:35:56,130
Do you think that they're not
all working together? Now

1536
01:35:56,130 --> 01:35:56,520
clearly,

1537
01:35:56,520 --> 01:35:59,100
there's more we can all do to
fight eyesores. So there's no

1538
01:35:59,250 --> 01:35:59,820
specific

1539
01:36:00,210 --> 01:36:04,050
stranger Twitter icon and drink
this shaker. Your specific

1540
01:36:04,200 --> 01:36:07,200
that was not intended for any
specific country. It was

1541
01:36:07,200 --> 01:36:09,660
intended. And I think this is an
important point. I think ISIL

1542
01:36:09,660 --> 01:36:12,720
wants to make this about the
United States and our actions.

1543
01:36:12,720 --> 01:36:15,480
And I think what the President
was trying to say is that this

1544
01:36:15,480 --> 01:36:18,930
is not about the United States.
And what we do. This is about

1545
01:36:19,200 --> 01:36:22,920
countries in the region coming
together to fight a shared

1546
01:36:23,040 --> 01:36:24,990
threat. And this is not about
us. And

1547
01:36:25,770 --> 01:36:29,490
so then Matt, just he's he's
ready to stick it to her because

1548
01:36:29,520 --> 01:36:33,330
of course we have these
horrible, the abhorrent, the

1549
01:36:33,330 --> 01:36:42,930
most violent jihadi group, crazy
as beheading mofos. And he's

1550
01:36:42,930 --> 01:36:46,710
going to pull the obvious card
there.

1551
01:36:46,740 --> 01:36:47,670
barbarity?

1552
01:36:47,970 --> 01:36:50,970
The bar bet isn't an actual word
barbarity?

1553
01:36:51,269 --> 01:36:56,189
Did she say barbarity or Barbary
bar? Like Barbary? To me?

1554
01:36:56,429 --> 01:36:57,809
They're barbarity?

1555
01:36:57,840 --> 01:37:00,720
No, she's saying barbarity. Is
that correct security

1556
01:37:00,720 --> 01:37:02,820
in there? Yeah. Turn it up.

1557
01:37:02,910 --> 01:37:04,020
Okay, I'm cranking it.

1558
01:37:05,070 --> 01:37:06,660
There barbarity?

1559
01:37:07,620 --> 01:37:11,010
You're saying is that a word
Barbara? Melody sure is really

1560
01:37:11,010 --> 01:37:14,520
boundless, boundless, its
alliteration. Boundless

1561
01:37:14,520 --> 01:37:17,220
barbarity. Oh, write it down. We
have another possible show

1562
01:37:17,220 --> 01:37:17,520
title.

1563
01:37:17,820 --> 01:37:22,830
And all peace loving Muslims
have to do around the world is

1564
01:37:22,830 --> 01:37:25,410
look at these photos to know
they don't represent their

1565
01:37:25,410 --> 01:37:28,470
religion. I note that the Grand
Mufti of Saudi Arabia, that

1566
01:37:28,470 --> 01:37:30,450
nation's highest religious
authority, and

1567
01:37:30,480 --> 01:37:35,760
this is a big mistake, Marie, do
not bring in the Saudi Arabia,

1568
01:37:35,790 --> 01:37:38,520
because especially we did move
to things and this is my mats on

1569
01:37:38,520 --> 01:37:38,610
it

1570
01:37:38,610 --> 01:37:42,900
today said that the Islamic
State and al Qaeda were the

1571
01:37:42,930 --> 01:37:46,140
enemy number one of Islam and
not in any way part of the

1572
01:37:46,140 --> 01:37:49,140
faith. So I certainly don't want
to speak for him. But he was

1573
01:37:49,140 --> 01:37:53,850
very clear about how at least
Muslims in his country should

1574
01:37:53,850 --> 01:37:55,650
view what ISIL is

1575
01:37:55,650 --> 01:37:59,130
doing. No matter you mentioned
the grandmas be in Saudi Arabia.

1576
01:37:59,850 --> 01:38:02,970
But you know, Saudi Arabia is a
country in which beheading is

1577
01:38:02,970 --> 01:38:07,230
actually the legal form of
execution. And it's a country

1578
01:38:07,230 --> 01:38:08,580
that is, you

1579
01:38:09,210 --> 01:38:14,670
know, they hate gays, you know,
it's illegal and dry. Don't

1580
01:38:14,670 --> 01:38:18,180
Don't Don't harass women can
beat your wife and now, the

1581
01:38:18,180 --> 01:38:20,220
grand mufti, he's all this in
that.

1582
01:38:22,380 --> 01:38:25,980
Department has long criticized
for its human rights, right?

1583
01:38:25,980 --> 01:38:26,280
That is

1584
01:38:26,280 --> 01:38:28,650
true. That is true. But Shut up,
Matt.

1585
01:38:28,680 --> 01:38:32,490
I was just highlighting comments
made by Mojo for you understand

1586
01:38:32,490 --> 01:38:35,160
legislator, when we have
concerns with some of their

1587
01:38:35,160 --> 01:38:38,160
practices, we raise those but
that's wholly separate from our

1588
01:38:38,160 --> 01:38:41,460
counterterrorism cooperation.
And I would say I was bringing

1589
01:38:41,460 --> 01:38:41,700
up the

1590
01:38:42,240 --> 01:38:45,330
look, the look, there's
beheading and hating gays and

1591
01:38:45,330 --> 01:38:47,670
killing gays, and then there's
our counterterrorism

1592
01:38:47,670 --> 01:38:50,700
cooperation, you really have to
see these things in completely

1593
01:38:50,700 --> 01:38:56,550
different lights. Again, people
were just trying to help you

1594
01:38:57,030 --> 01:39:02,760
open your eyes to the insanity
that is unfolding before us now.

1595
01:39:04,380 --> 01:39:07,320
On the radar, of course, we have
two things we the way I'm seeing

1596
01:39:07,320 --> 01:39:11,400
it been this grand game. We are
now preparing to the we're

1597
01:39:11,400 --> 01:39:15,510
preparing the public at large
for an invasion, a bombing, a

1598
01:39:15,510 --> 01:39:18,600
destruction of the eastern
portion of Syria, which is

1599
01:39:18,840 --> 01:39:23,160
strategically very important to
stop and from my perspective to

1600
01:39:23,160 --> 01:39:25,950
stop pipelines from Iran, Iraq
into the Syrian port, which is

1601
01:39:25,950 --> 01:39:29,760
owned by Russia, but also to
enable the gas from Qatar up

1602
01:39:29,760 --> 01:39:31,890
through Homs. Aleppo, all these
places that have been bombed

1603
01:39:31,890 --> 01:39:38,790
into Turkey into Europe. So
this, but it is also and I was a

1604
01:39:38,790 --> 01:39:41,820
little on the fence about this
earlier. I really believe at

1605
01:39:41,820 --> 01:39:47,610
this point. That the this is
also a setup for a Sunni Shia

1606
01:39:47,610 --> 01:39:52,740
civil war in Iraq, not just in
Iraq, but everywhere, Sunni

1607
01:39:52,740 --> 01:39:58,650
Shias shop. And the funny thing
is, and this kind of hit me when

1608
01:39:58,650 --> 01:40:01,410
I was reviewing some of what
McCain Dean used to say and how

1609
01:40:01,410 --> 01:40:04,500
things are setting up now. I
believe there might be a

1610
01:40:04,500 --> 01:40:06,570
backroom deal being done with
Iran.

1611
01:40:08,280 --> 01:40:11,580
Well, that's been indicated by a
number of sources over the last

1612
01:40:11,580 --> 01:40:15,600
ever since the yes, yeah, ever
since the melaque. Maliki got

1613
01:40:15,600 --> 01:40:18,960
into the office and couldn't do
anything and but I was kind of

1614
01:40:18,960 --> 01:40:22,050
ignoring it. And it makes sense
when this is what I would go

1615
01:40:22,050 --> 01:40:24,930
along with this thesis because I
still think is the US behind

1616
01:40:25,260 --> 01:40:28,920
making three countries and all
since the day one it just took

1617
01:40:28,920 --> 01:40:32,130
forever to do it. We're not as
adept as we think. And you got

1618
01:40:32,130 --> 01:40:36,540
your your, your Shia segment
which is quote will be closely

1619
01:40:36,540 --> 01:40:41,460
allied with Iran and it will
prevent a civil war is as far as

1620
01:40:41,460 --> 01:40:45,510
I can tell. And then you have
this ISIS ISIL ice whatever you

1621
01:40:45,510 --> 01:40:49,380
want to call it. Group in the
middle and then the Kurds which

1622
01:40:49,410 --> 01:40:50,460
with our protection

1623
01:40:50,490 --> 01:40:54,330
are just pumping oil, pumping
oil, they are the the attendants

1624
01:40:54,330 --> 01:40:55,320
of the gas station,

1625
01:40:55,559 --> 01:40:57,869
there's some other oil wells
outside of that area that they

1626
01:40:58,079 --> 01:40:59,729
guys can make money on. plenty
more

1627
01:40:59,730 --> 01:41:03,960
to do. But it is also really
about the rub what we call Rob

1628
01:41:03,960 --> 01:41:09,120
realization. Now, Hayden was
this morning, I'm getting ready

1629
01:41:09,120 --> 01:41:10,980
for 10 minutes before showtime.

1630
01:41:11,070 --> 01:41:13,860
And by the way, it was just to
continue my thought Yeah, the

1631
01:41:13,860 --> 01:41:18,270
ISIS ISIL thing actually becomes
a very interesting buffer state.

1632
01:41:18,690 --> 01:41:21,030
Absolutely it each way, the

1633
01:41:21,090 --> 01:41:25,350
Shia and the Kurds you know, the
because the you don't want the

1634
01:41:25,410 --> 01:41:31,230
Iranians who are who are already
rich with oil impinging on that

1635
01:41:31,230 --> 01:41:32,460
any of that action? Oh,

1636
01:41:32,520 --> 01:41:38,940
this is this is a pretty good
plan. It's bloody and it doesn't

1637
01:41:38,970 --> 01:41:44,280
behoove a lot of people but it's
a pretty good plan. And so we

1638
01:41:44,280 --> 01:41:47,940
know that Hayden, former NSA
Director, former director of the

1639
01:41:47,940 --> 01:41:53,010
CIA, right, the wrong criminal
work with the real deal has been

1640
01:41:53,040 --> 01:41:56,220
out promoting. Did you know that
he was a part of the group now

1641
01:41:56,220 --> 01:42:00,270
the the Chertoff Group, I didn't
realize he was really, he's a

1642
01:42:00,300 --> 01:42:01,050
main,

1643
01:42:01,380 --> 01:42:03,780
I thought we knew this. Well,
that

1644
01:42:03,780 --> 01:42:07,500
we just remind ourselves, okay,
I think we know this, but he has

1645
01:42:07,500 --> 01:42:11,340
been pushed into propagating the
message.

1646
01:42:11,370 --> 01:42:14,520
Yeah, no, he's been pushed into
duty as punishment.

1647
01:42:15,120 --> 01:42:18,270
I think he has like kiddie porn
or something in his background.

1648
01:42:18,300 --> 01:42:23,730
When I look at this guy, I just,
he's so creepy. And I can't I

1649
01:42:23,730 --> 01:42:25,920
have no evidence. He just he's
creepy each

1650
01:42:26,490 --> 01:42:30,060
evening. It's because of his I
think he's in the penalty box.

1651
01:42:30,060 --> 01:42:32,460
And he's being made to do all
this extra work. This is a lot

1652
01:42:32,460 --> 01:42:36,030
of work to do. He's not pushing
a book. He's not going no, no,

1653
01:42:36,060 --> 01:42:38,310
no, if you're going to be
hitting it hitting this circuit,

1654
01:42:38,520 --> 01:42:42,060
generally speaking, especially
if you show up on Fox, you have

1655
01:42:42,060 --> 01:42:45,030
a book to sell. And it's all
part of your book, sales,

1656
01:42:45,030 --> 01:42:48,990
product promotion, you don't
just come on, and Yak away like

1657
01:42:48,990 --> 01:42:51,120
this, unless you're an official
spokesperson. Well,

1658
01:42:51,120 --> 01:42:55,890
he is showing up on CNN all the
time. So and he is pushing a

1659
01:42:55,890 --> 01:42:58,980
message that would be very
familiar and comfortable to the

1660
01:42:59,370 --> 01:43:04,020
people who believe in Fox News
as being the message. And people

1661
01:43:04,020 --> 01:43:07,500
I think are very comfortable
now, which crosses all the lines

1662
01:43:07,620 --> 01:43:10,860
with the message he is
portraying on CNN, what he said

1663
01:43:10,860 --> 01:43:12,930
this morning, I think there were
a number of very important

1664
01:43:12,930 --> 01:43:16,620
things, particularly as it comes
to Syria. And again, this is

1665
01:43:16,620 --> 01:43:20,130
just showing you Syria. So Saudi
Arabia, you're on deck. That's

1666
01:43:20,130 --> 01:43:24,330
what West said, Syria, we are
going in, and he has a couple of

1667
01:43:24,360 --> 01:43:28,680
very, again, just these lovely,
lovely words and combo words,

1668
01:43:28,680 --> 01:43:28,890
what

1669
01:43:28,890 --> 01:43:31,230
is the direct threat to them.
And it's my impression that

1670
01:43:31,230 --> 01:43:34,590
there's a debate inside the
intelligence community as to how

1671
01:43:34,770 --> 01:43:38,760
imminent that threat is you have
a school of thought that that

1672
01:43:38,760 --> 01:43:41,520
they certainly aspire to attack
the American homeland, they have

1673
01:43:41,520 --> 01:43:44,820
a number of Americans among
their ranks, perhaps 100. This

1674
01:43:44,820 --> 01:43:45,180
is a

1675
01:43:45,180 --> 01:43:46,710
script, just so you know, this

1676
01:43:46,710 --> 01:43:49,050
is right. And that is part of
the script. And it's part of the

1677
01:43:49,050 --> 01:43:53,370
meme that there's at least 100
Americans. Now we have an NSA

1678
01:43:53,370 --> 01:43:56,490
that keeps track them every
individual, we should actually

1679
01:43:56,490 --> 01:43:59,100
have their cell phone numbers if
we're any good at what we claim

1680
01:43:59,100 --> 01:44:02,790
to be doing. So this is and this
is nonsense. There's, you know,

1681
01:44:02,790 --> 01:44:05,430
the Okay, maybe there's 100, if
there are 100 Americans involved

1682
01:44:05,430 --> 01:44:10,440
in this, there are 100 American
spies, or at least 50. Let's be

1683
01:44:10,440 --> 01:44:13,740
realistic about this. This is
the perfect opportunity.

1684
01:44:13,830 --> 01:44:17,340
Again, this is a script and I
want you to listen to Hayden's

1685
01:44:17,340 --> 01:44:18,150
initial response, what

1686
01:44:18,150 --> 01:44:20,520
is the direct threat to them?
And it's my impression that

1687
01:44:20,520 --> 01:44:23,850
there's a debate inside the
intelligence community as to how

1688
01:44:24,030 --> 01:44:28,020
imminent that threat is you have
a school of thought that that

1689
01:44:28,020 --> 01:44:30,780
they certainly aspire to attack
the American homeland. They have

1690
01:44:30,780 --> 01:44:34,410
a number of Americans among
their ranks, perhaps 100. But

1691
01:44:34,410 --> 01:44:38,520
the FBI put out a report this
week saying no credible threats

1692
01:44:38,700 --> 01:44:43,320
yet. Where do you stand in that
debate? Is it more imminent or

1693
01:44:43,320 --> 01:44:44,010
less imminent?

1694
01:44:44,940 --> 01:44:49,170
Just pause. We know there has
always been there is a definite

1695
01:44:49,170 --> 01:44:53,670
strife between intelligence
sources. Here is CIA versus FBI

1696
01:44:53,670 --> 01:44:56,670
FBI is trying to undercut them
Hayden is of course not going to

1697
01:44:56,670 --> 01:44:59,370
have any of that very important
things that are happening. The

1698
01:44:59,370 --> 01:45:00,540
script is right Is this a

1699
01:45:00,540 --> 01:45:02,790
future threat or clear and
present danger?

1700
01:45:03,060 --> 01:45:07,530
Well, Jim, you you've outlined
it perfectly. He hasn't said

1701
01:45:07,530 --> 01:45:10,080
anything. He asked the

1702
01:45:10,080 --> 01:45:13,560
question, is it this or that
you've outlined it perfectly?

1703
01:45:14,310 --> 01:45:18,150
This is a question of timing,
not of inevitability, not not of

1704
01:45:18,150 --> 01:45:22,350
intent. And right now, I think
it's fair to say that ISIS is a

1705
01:45:22,350 --> 01:45:26,130
very powerful local terrorist
organization, and probably a

1706
01:45:26,130 --> 01:45:30,150
reasonably powerful regional
terrorist organization. But it's

1707
01:45:30,150 --> 01:45:33,390
one that has global ambitions.
And it has the tools as you

1708
01:45:33,390 --> 01:45:37,110
suggested, American passport
holders or European passport

1709
01:45:37,110 --> 01:45:42,750
holders expressed the intent.
And so if it's not Tuesday, it's

1710
01:45:42,750 --> 01:45:44,670
at a time and place of their
choosing.

1711
01:45:44,880 --> 01:45:46,530
It's if it's not Tuesday,

1712
01:45:46,950 --> 01:45:48,120
what's happening on Tuesday?

1713
01:45:48,150 --> 01:45:49,020
I don't know I'm landing in

1714
01:45:50,220 --> 01:45:54,450
California. That wouldn't be the
guy used to get his hamburgers

1715
01:45:54,450 --> 01:45:56,220
on payback on Tuesday clearly

1716
01:45:56,220 --> 01:45:58,380
said if it's not Tuesday, so
when he said

1717
01:45:58,830 --> 01:46:02,850
Tuesday, it's at a time and
place of their choosing in order

1718
01:46:02,850 --> 01:46:05,730
to come probably sooner rather
than later. Look, Jim, they're

1719
01:46:05,730 --> 01:46:06,570
in a competition.

1720
01:46:06,839 --> 01:46:08,639
What is Tuesday now without kind

1721
01:46:08,640 --> 01:46:11,010
of platter right? sooner than
later?

1722
01:46:11,250 --> 01:46:13,650
sooner than later? Not too. That
could be Monday.

1723
01:46:13,860 --> 01:46:17,700
If it's not Tuesday, it's at a
time and place of their

1724
01:46:17,700 --> 01:46:20,640
choosing, and what will come
probably sooner rather than

1725
01:46:20,640 --> 01:46:23,610
later. Look, Jim they're in a
competition now with al Qaeda

1726
01:46:23,610 --> 01:46:25,740
prime the prime.

1727
01:46:26,190 --> 01:46:27,990
It's al Qaeda prime.

1728
01:46:28,349 --> 01:46:32,399
It's like Amazon Prime. Oh,
yeah. I'm told you this is

1729
01:46:32,399 --> 01:46:34,379
great. This is unbelievable.

1730
01:46:34,380 --> 01:46:34,560
It's

1731
01:46:34,560 --> 01:46:35,700
great stuff. It's

1732
01:46:39,630 --> 01:46:40,920
sooner rather than later.

1733
01:46:41,640 --> 01:46:44,850
It's gotta be rolling his eyes
at the script. Just read it.

1734
01:46:45,450 --> 01:46:47,670
Amazon prime sorry al Qaeda
prime

1735
01:46:49,590 --> 01:46:53,760
Oh, free delivery. Free delivery
of your IED without kind of

1736
01:46:53,760 --> 01:46:54,210
pride

1737
01:46:56,610 --> 01:46:58,290
Jim they're in a competition now
with

1738
01:47:02,460 --> 01:47:07,710
people we're laughing because it
is it is hilarious. This none of

1739
01:47:07,710 --> 01:47:12,120
this is true. Yeah, some asshole
may shoot some off to make the

1740
01:47:12,120 --> 01:47:15,780
point but it's really not true.
Just people die all the time. I

1741
01:47:15,780 --> 01:47:16,110
hate it

1742
01:47:16,140 --> 01:47:19,320
I'm sorry, sir. Official lies
the the things

1743
01:47:19,320 --> 01:47:22,170
have people die in car accidents
and bathroom, they fall in the

1744
01:47:22,170 --> 01:47:25,650
tub. People die and someone's
gonna happen and some will die.

1745
01:47:25,650 --> 01:47:28,950
But the fear the terrorism that
these people are throwing on EU

1746
01:47:28,950 --> 01:47:33,120
citizens. It's disgusting. It is
it is and do not be afraid. It's

1747
01:47:33,120 --> 01:47:35,640
just bullcrap. You have to laugh
at what they're saying.

1748
01:47:35,850 --> 01:47:40,350
If it's not Tuesday, it's at a
time and place of their choosing

1749
01:47:40,560 --> 01:47:43,740
and overcome probably sooner
rather than later. Look, Jim,

1750
01:47:43,740 --> 01:47:51,000
they're in a competition now
with al Qaeda prime. Folks along

1751
01:47:51,000 --> 01:47:55,260
the Afghan Pakistan border and
there's no way more powerful to

1752
01:47:55,590 --> 01:47:59,160
express their street credentials
among the jihadist community

1753
01:47:59,190 --> 01:47:59,970
street cred.

1754
01:48:00,090 --> 01:48:01,830
jihadist community.

1755
01:48:04,440 --> 01:48:08,880
It's a new social network,
jihadist community. God has

1756
01:48:08,880 --> 01:48:11,970
given you they have a community
center at said jihadist

1757
01:48:11,970 --> 01:48:12,450
community

1758
01:48:12,480 --> 01:48:14,490
that a successful attack against
the West.

1759
01:48:14,849 --> 01:48:17,699
So to be clear, you're saying
it's just a matter of time right

1760
01:48:17,729 --> 01:48:20,669
before ISIS attempts to attack
or tax the US homeland just to

1761
01:48:20,670 --> 01:48:23,730
make sure I want to make sure we
make sure we got that clear.

1762
01:48:23,940 --> 01:48:24,510
Listen to her.

1763
01:48:24,540 --> 01:48:27,300
I think so. And certainly
certainly the West in general,

1764
01:48:27,360 --> 01:48:31,830
of course, and Americans and
American interest in the region

1765
01:48:31,890 --> 01:48:34,530
right now are at risk. You know,
we've we've kind of

1766
01:48:34,560 --> 01:48:37,890
underestimated our opponents in
the past. We certainly did that

1767
01:48:37,890 --> 01:48:41,610
we lacked imagination with 911
we lacked imagination.

1768
01:48:42,390 --> 01:48:45,630
They did lacked imagination,
because they forgot to hit weta

1769
01:48:46,830 --> 01:48:51,420
flame and they forgot to have
some kind of you know video of

1770
01:48:51,420 --> 01:48:55,380
of a plane hitting the Pentagon.
We lacked some imagination

1771
01:48:55,500 --> 01:48:59,640
ever came up a couple of
questions. One is he

1772
01:49:00,060 --> 01:49:02,280
says oh doesn't stop that
doesn't stop this green

1773
01:49:02,280 --> 01:49:04,920
belt. We kind of did that with
al Qaeda in the Arabian

1774
01:49:04,920 --> 01:49:05,460
Peninsula.

1775
01:49:05,490 --> 01:49:08,760
We kind of had some imagined it
says what? Let me replay this.

1776
01:49:09,180 --> 01:49:13,200
We didn't have imagination. But
then we did have imagination

1777
01:49:13,200 --> 01:49:16,800
with al Qaeda in the Arabian
Peninsula with AQAP

1778
01:49:17,130 --> 01:49:23,160
drones. No, no, no, no that guy
Matala yes yes yes yes imagine

1779
01:49:23,160 --> 01:49:27,180
to do right now. Okay, we got
some of the bag boys you got a

1780
01:49:27,180 --> 01:49:30,300
meeting here we're gonna put
some we're gonna put a bomb in

1781
01:49:30,300 --> 01:49:31,500
his guy's crotch.

1782
01:49:32,370 --> 01:49:35,430
This is great fight this is
awesome. This is what a good

1783
01:49:35,430 --> 01:49:36,180
idea

1784
01:49:36,269 --> 01:49:41,099
or imagine a div how are we
gonna get him through the the

1785
01:49:42,059 --> 01:49:43,049
Chi pull how we

1786
01:49:43,050 --> 01:49:46,800
call a Dutch they'll do anything
for us get some guy get an

1787
01:49:46,800 --> 01:49:47,640
ambassador

1788
01:49:47,700 --> 01:49:50,580
metal detectors gonna catch this
probably are one of the extreme

1789
01:49:50,580 --> 01:49:51,780
issues what are you gonna do
about it?

1790
01:49:52,259 --> 01:49:54,239
We're gonna do nothing about it.
We're just gonna it doesn't have

1791
01:49:54,239 --> 01:49:56,309
to go through what he didn't go
through the metal detector. We

1792
01:49:56,309 --> 01:49:59,309
just we have our we have our
agent at Schiphol Airport. Get

1793
01:49:59,309 --> 01:50:02,459
them on the plane. without a
passport, you can do that. Well,

1794
01:50:02,459 --> 01:50:06,779
we can tell you. Oh, okay, well,
let's do that right and when one

1795
01:50:06,779 --> 01:50:10,169
will have this guy lightest
crush, this is gonna be so cool.

1796
01:50:10,259 --> 01:50:13,439
We didn't have to blow anything
up. Just as crunch on fire is

1797
01:50:13,439 --> 01:50:17,189
cool enough. That's imaginative.
And now Now you're talking

1798
01:50:17,189 --> 01:50:18,269
imagination rest.

1799
01:50:18,300 --> 01:50:21,270
You know, we've, we've kind of
underestimated our opponents in

1800
01:50:21,270 --> 01:50:24,960
the past. We certainly did that
we lacked imagination with 911.

1801
01:50:25,290 --> 01:50:28,380
We kind of did that with al
Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula.

1802
01:50:28,620 --> 01:50:31,050
We knew they were up to
something we just didn't think

1803
01:50:31,050 --> 01:50:34,560
it was going to be a Nigerian on
an airliner over Detroit

1804
01:50:34,590 --> 01:50:38,550
with his pants on fire. No, no,
no, we knew because we came up

1805
01:50:38,550 --> 01:50:43,080
with that. We gave that guy a
raise. That was a good one.

1806
01:50:43,110 --> 01:50:47,250
Well, we've got the same dynamic
here. But it's not just about

1807
01:50:47,250 --> 01:50:51,570
defense. It's not just about
keeping the right people off of

1808
01:50:51,570 --> 01:50:55,530
aircraft. It's about offense.
It's about disabling

1809
01:50:55,560 --> 01:50:56,850
How could it be the right
people?

1810
01:50:57,450 --> 01:51:00,780
The right people on offense, we
shoot them at

1811
01:51:01,140 --> 01:51:03,630
shouldn't. It shouldn't be the
wrong people. You keep off of

1812
01:51:03,630 --> 01:51:12,180
Air aircraft. The horses, that
was good catch. People off, keep

1813
01:51:12,180 --> 01:51:15,150
the right people off here. Yeah,
like law abiding citizens on a

1814
01:51:15,150 --> 01:51:17,910
don't fly list. That's what we
do

1815
01:51:18,030 --> 01:51:22,500
over Detroit. Well, we've got
the same dynamic here. But it's

1816
01:51:22,500 --> 01:51:26,730
not just about defense. It's not
just about keeping the right

1817
01:51:26,730 --> 01:51:30,750
people off of aircraft. It's
about offense. It's about

1818
01:51:30,750 --> 01:51:35,250
disabling offense, ISIS, it's
about making them more worried

1819
01:51:35,250 --> 01:51:39,360
more concerned with protecting
their own survivability rather

1820
01:51:39,360 --> 01:51:41,220
than threatening yours or mine

1821
01:51:41,759 --> 01:51:45,299
is the US ability to confront
ISIS.

1822
01:51:45,840 --> 01:51:47,250
Oh, crap. I'm sorry.

1823
01:51:48,900 --> 01:51:51,720
Guys reading from a script. He
is on shoot. I'm sorry,

1824
01:51:51,720 --> 01:51:53,970
something you lose the rest of
it. No, I have it. I just have

1825
01:51:53,970 --> 01:52:01,710
to for some reason. Hold on. Let
me just bring it back. at all I

1826
01:52:01,710 --> 01:52:04,860
just wanted to get I just wanted
to get the last bit and if you

1827
01:52:04,860 --> 01:52:09,270
just give me one second, I'll
bring it up. Because that really

1828
01:52:09,270 --> 01:52:12,660
goes to the to the Syria
campaign. Here we go play like

1829
01:52:12,660 --> 01:52:19,740
this. It should work. Well, just
bear with me for a second. It

1830
01:52:19,740 --> 01:52:23,370
only takes a second. Sometimes
you're looking for no sometimes

1831
01:52:23,370 --> 01:52:24,030
I'm playing clips.

1832
01:52:24,630 --> 01:52:26,340
Yes, I do that. Here we go. And

1833
01:52:26,400 --> 01:52:29,370
relying cooperating with our
friends in the region. The

1834
01:52:29,370 --> 01:52:33,990
Jordanians, the Turks, and the
Kurds to get ground truth that

1835
01:52:33,990 --> 01:52:35,940
enables us to conduct his ground

1836
01:52:35,940 --> 01:52:39,270
truth by the way, not ground
troops but ground truth. For

1837
01:52:39,690 --> 01:52:42,690
ground truth. He said ground
truth Yeah, not ground troops

1838
01:52:42,690 --> 01:52:46,440
but ground truth. And we need
ground truth in Syria.

1839
01:52:46,680 --> 01:52:47,640
Interesting, dangerous

1840
01:52:47,640 --> 01:52:51,360
as that might be, and, and
relying cooperating with our

1841
01:52:51,360 --> 01:52:54,690
friends in the region, the
Jordanians, the Turks, and the

1842
01:52:54,690 --> 01:52:59,580
Kurds to get ground truth that
enables us to conduct targeted

1843
01:52:59,580 --> 01:53:02,910
operations with the kind of
exquisite intelligence, that

1844
01:53:02,910 --> 01:53:03,600
exquisite

1845
01:53:03,600 --> 01:53:04,620
intelligence.

1846
01:53:04,890 --> 01:53:08,220
Wow, we need. We have another
show title, loaded into

1847
01:53:08,520 --> 01:53:12,570
exquisite intelligence. It was
wizard but you know, that

1848
01:53:12,570 --> 01:53:13,200
intelligence

1849
01:53:13,230 --> 01:53:14,520
is exquisite.

1850
01:53:14,670 --> 01:53:18,720
But these guys have successfully
dumbed down the population to

1851
01:53:18,720 --> 01:53:22,680
the words awesome, amazing and
weird. And they're out there

1852
01:53:22,680 --> 01:53:25,920
using exquisite and get these
guys are good,

1853
01:53:26,250 --> 01:53:29,580
really requires. I agree with
you or not up to the level of

1854
01:53:29,580 --> 01:53:33,600
exquisite over Syria. We're not
bad again, the line of

1855
01:53:33,600 --> 01:53:37,020
confrontation in Iraq right now,
as you can see, by the success

1856
01:53:37,110 --> 01:53:38,820
of the strikes today, okay.

1857
01:53:38,970 --> 01:53:39,840
And then yeah.

1858
01:53:41,640 --> 01:53:44,130
Yes, I have many more good
things. But yes, please go.

1859
01:53:44,460 --> 01:53:47,280
Okay, a couple of things that
I've noticed that with this new

1860
01:53:47,280 --> 01:53:49,830
cycle and what's been going on,
and with guys like this coming

1861
01:53:49,830 --> 01:53:52,350
out and telling us kind of what,
you know, the what the official

1862
01:53:52,350 --> 01:53:57,000
line is, early on, in this whole
deal, there was a targeting of

1863
01:53:57,000 --> 01:54:01,320
Germany as a problematic
situation, because there's all

1864
01:54:01,320 --> 01:54:02,820
these terrorists. That's

1865
01:54:02,820 --> 01:54:04,230
where the 911 terrorist,

1866
01:54:04,230 --> 01:54:07,500
and they were all coming, they
all were going back, they're

1867
01:54:07,500 --> 01:54:10,500
going back from the little
battles with German passports,

1868
01:54:10,710 --> 01:54:13,470
which allow them to come
straight into the United States

1869
01:54:13,800 --> 01:54:17,910
to bomb us. And we saw we have
clip after clip of pointing out

1870
01:54:17,940 --> 01:54:22,770
Germany, naming Germany. This
has been dumped. This has been

1871
01:54:22,770 --> 01:54:24,810
dropped. For some reason. We
don't know what the reason is.

1872
01:54:25,140 --> 01:54:27,930
But there was it's been dropped.
It was used as a pressure point

1873
01:54:27,930 --> 01:54:31,530
that has been dropped. Now it's
Americans 100 Americans exactly,

1874
01:54:31,710 --> 01:54:33,540
that are going to come back and
they're the ones that are going

1875
01:54:33,540 --> 01:54:35,160
to come here to bomb as the
Germans are routed.

1876
01:54:35,610 --> 01:54:41,940
Although I must say that a lot
is also being moved towards the

1877
01:54:41,940 --> 01:54:45,390
UK and the Netherlands and
people are getting the message

1878
01:54:45,390 --> 01:54:49,920
that these jihadist have
European passports. And because

1879
01:54:49,920 --> 01:54:54,900
there is no there is no border
control. They can freely float

1880
01:54:54,900 --> 01:54:55,530
anywhere they want.

1881
01:54:55,590 --> 01:54:58,290
But I'm still concentrating on
Germany because I think this was

1882
01:54:58,290 --> 01:55:01,110
part of a quid pro quo that
allowed Germany to take part in

1883
01:55:01,110 --> 01:55:03,900
the sanctions against Russia.
Were putting the pressure on us

1884
01:55:03,930 --> 01:55:07,020
just to get those guys to
knuckle under. And they did. And

1885
01:55:07,020 --> 01:55:08,580
I think that's all that was

1886
01:55:08,610 --> 01:55:11,730
where Russia is now saying no,
Germany is saying no more new

1887
01:55:11,730 --> 01:55:12,510
sanctions.

1888
01:55:12,840 --> 01:55:15,600
Well, that's because the farmers
and everybody all throughout the

1889
01:55:15,630 --> 01:55:19,230
EU are complaining I have a clip
about that. Okay, but let's go

1890
01:55:19,230 --> 01:55:22,590
back to the other thought of
mine, which is that Saudi Arabia

1891
01:55:22,590 --> 01:55:26,160
being named as a you better get
involved somehow, because these

1892
01:55:26,160 --> 01:55:29,460
guys are gonna go after Mecca
and Medina, which makes nothing

1893
01:55:29,460 --> 01:55:30,090
but sense.

1894
01:55:30,360 --> 01:55:32,580
If you want the cap of the
caliphate, then you need the

1895
01:55:32,580 --> 01:55:35,250
whole deal you need to do once a
caliphate, you need those to

1896
01:55:35,250 --> 01:55:38,760
town, which includes by the way
of Lebanon and Israel,

1897
01:55:39,690 --> 01:55:43,020
for the caliphate, but they're
not going to do that. But what

1898
01:55:43,020 --> 01:55:45,360
they really need are those two
towns, those other things are

1899
01:55:45,360 --> 01:55:50,400
secondary, that Israel's less
important than Mecca.

1900
01:55:50,730 --> 01:55:53,640
biohybrid and whereas Mecca on
the map,

1901
01:55:53,700 --> 01:55:57,000
it's in Saudi Arabia toward I
believe it's toward the eastern

1902
01:55:57,000 --> 01:56:01,980
part of Saudi Arabia. And it's
where the poor let's take a look

1903
01:56:01,980 --> 01:56:04,650
at our maps and when we're Mecca
is good everybody

1904
01:56:04,650 --> 01:56:06,990
and the way you do this is very
simple these days of the

1905
01:56:06,990 --> 01:56:12,780
Internet map of Mecca.

1906
01:56:14,190 --> 01:56:15,990
Okay, it is oh, here we go.

1907
01:56:20,670 --> 01:56:26,580
It's a sacred destination. And
it is said above to Heath it's

1908
01:56:26,580 --> 01:56:29,610
about in the middle of Saudi
Arabia on the west coast there

1909
01:56:29,610 --> 01:56:31,800
by the by the Red Sea.

1910
01:56:32,220 --> 01:56:35,370
And it is okay. Right. So it's
on the West Coast and Medina is

1911
01:56:35,370 --> 01:56:36,120
just north and

1912
01:56:36,120 --> 01:56:40,200
it's right across the river from
Sudan. This is also I've noticed

1913
01:56:40,200 --> 01:56:42,120
Andy, yes, I've noticed. Yes.

1914
01:56:42,420 --> 01:56:45,900
So they have to take, they'd be
coming in that you'd have to

1915
01:56:45,900 --> 01:56:49,290
first to get to get Oman and
some of these other Yemen. And

1916
01:56:49,290 --> 01:56:53,970
then they'd have Okay, rock is
at the North. Okay, they'd come

1917
01:56:53,970 --> 01:56:55,560
in straight down with that. But

1918
01:56:55,830 --> 01:56:59,760
they can go up from Yemen. we've
ramped up in Yemen, Yemen,

1919
01:56:59,760 --> 01:57:01,710
they're in Iraq with, isn't

1920
01:57:01,710 --> 01:57:02,940
it all the same dudes?

1921
01:57:03,660 --> 01:57:06,960
Well, I think the Yemenis guys
are diverted? No, that's the yam

1922
01:57:06,960 --> 01:57:09,780
we don't have the control that
we're assuming that is an

1923
01:57:09,780 --> 01:57:14,100
American operation in Iraq. And
they have to come straight down.

1924
01:57:14,130 --> 01:57:18,720
There's a lot of desert. And
it's a lot of desert, which you

1925
01:57:18,720 --> 01:57:22,230
can take that over inside the
most of the Iraq area that they

1926
01:57:22,230 --> 01:57:24,540
took over, as all deserts that
you can see by the map that I

1927
01:57:24,660 --> 01:57:27,900
included in the newsletter, yes,
it has a shows the dense

1928
01:57:27,900 --> 01:57:30,930
population density. And most of
these guys, they've taken over a

1929
01:57:30,930 --> 01:57:33,900
bunch of desert areas. And then
in Saudi Arabia, I'm looking at

1930
01:57:33,900 --> 01:57:37,110
a map that shows an Empty
Quarter over in the in the

1931
01:57:37,260 --> 01:57:43,350
south, east by the United Arab
Emirates anyway, so they could,

1932
01:57:44,340 --> 01:57:46,860
they can make a move on this, it
uses a lot of desert to get

1933
01:57:46,860 --> 01:57:47,700
through the Strait if

1934
01:57:47,910 --> 01:57:50,610
they gotta go straight down to
funky cold Medina.

1935
01:57:52,110 --> 01:57:53,640
Or they can just hop on a boat.

1936
01:57:55,320 --> 01:57:57,690
It's not gonna work, you're
gonna have to just take land

1937
01:57:57,720 --> 01:58:00,900
that could open the Stargate in
the Gulf of Aden if they get too

1938
01:58:01,440 --> 01:58:02,520
hungry for fish.

1939
01:58:04,290 --> 01:58:06,870
Okay, move on, I'm liking your
analysis,

1940
01:58:06,930 --> 01:58:09,660
let's just say that this is part
of the scheme. We've already

1941
01:58:09,660 --> 01:58:11,760
warned Saudi Arabia, they gotta
get their act together. And

1942
01:58:11,760 --> 01:58:14,670
they're not going to do anything
with course. And so we can show

1943
01:58:14,670 --> 01:58:18,540
I think it's a possibility that
these guys can take because

1944
01:58:18,540 --> 01:58:20,940
Saudi Arabia is due to be
realized.

1945
01:58:21,720 --> 01:58:24,270
Like nice yeah, there and yeah,
and they're just gonna say

1946
01:58:24,270 --> 01:58:28,770
whatever. Because Riyadh or as
you'd like to say, radio, radio

1947
01:58:28,800 --> 01:58:32,070
is nowhere near ready. Yeah.
This Oh, nuts. Oh, not even the

1948
01:58:32,070 --> 01:58:34,170
line of fire. It's more to the
east. It's not,

1949
01:58:34,620 --> 01:58:38,400
it's not in the line of fire at
all. No. Facts, all the those

1950
01:58:38,760 --> 01:58:41,910
producing spots, I think over on
that side to the Medina and

1951
01:58:41,910 --> 01:58:44,190
Mecca in the middle of nowhere.
That's all good. It's good. It's

1952
01:58:44,190 --> 01:58:48,300
good. I think this will work.
It's very good. Anyway, and it's

1953
01:58:48,300 --> 01:58:48,900
exquisite.

1954
01:58:49,620 --> 01:58:53,850
Well, exquisite when it comes to
intelligence. It's completely

1955
01:58:54,360 --> 01:58:55,620
excluded now. But you've been

1956
01:58:55,620 --> 01:58:59,100
brought into play with this with
this commentary from Clark. So I

1957
01:58:59,100 --> 01:59:03,660
think Mark is like the he's the
he's a jerk to people in the

1958
01:59:03,660 --> 01:59:06,360
know what there's gonna have
putting messages in there. That

1959
01:59:06,360 --> 01:59:09,090
code in this case was mentioning
Saudi Arabia.

1960
01:59:09,480 --> 01:59:16,020
Now we have, but I've thought
the Hagel and Dempsey show was

1961
01:59:16,020 --> 01:59:23,460
exquisite as well. And this was
done at the Pentagon, in the

1962
01:59:23,490 --> 01:59:26,190
Pentagon Briefing Room, which
includes a whole bunch of

1963
01:59:26,190 --> 01:59:31,350
different types of questioners
with different scripts. And

1964
01:59:31,350 --> 01:59:36,600
Hagel, as we know, is he he's
kind of like the dad on Happy

1965
01:59:36,600 --> 01:59:40,890
Days, you know, he's just, he's
there, and whatever he says,

1966
01:59:40,890 --> 01:59:44,670
make sense in the story, but he
was hyping it up a little bit,

1967
01:59:44,670 --> 01:59:47,820
and I kind of liked where he was
going because he pulled out

1968
01:59:47,850 --> 01:59:50,460
well, he's not a great actor,
but he pulled out a lot of

1969
01:59:50,460 --> 01:59:54,060
things that really accentuated
what the message is about how

1970
01:59:54,060 --> 01:59:57,690
incredibly dangerous and how we
of course, have to start doing

1971
01:59:57,690 --> 02:00:00,900
things. i There may even be
something about Saudi Arabian

1972
02:00:00,900 --> 02:00:04,680
here, but I just wanted to play
these two clips from the Hagel

1973
02:00:04,680 --> 02:00:07,380
and Dempsey show. Hagel, of
course, is the Secretary of

1974
02:00:07,380 --> 02:00:12,180
Defense for the United States, a
complete moron. And General

1975
02:00:12,180 --> 02:00:17,010
Dempsey is the chief, the Chief
of Staff. He's the he's in

1976
02:00:17,010 --> 02:00:21,270
charge of all the all the
generals. And he's a leprechaun,

1977
02:00:22,080 --> 02:00:24,330
is how I don't think he's not
like, it didn't he may

1978
02:00:24,330 --> 02:00:27,750
be a little us that Leverkusen
that we've gotten different

1979
02:00:27,750 --> 02:00:33,060
input on him. One is that
supposedly, he's a good guy that

1980
02:00:33,060 --> 02:00:36,150
behind closed doors, saves the
country from doing a lot of

1981
02:00:36,150 --> 02:00:40,380
stupid stuff. I think he's given
up I think, I now did let me

1982
02:00:40,380 --> 02:00:44,640
finish. Because it's possible.
He's got nothing but flak,

1983
02:00:44,670 --> 02:00:46,920
especially from the right, and
from the left

1984
02:00:46,920 --> 02:00:50,190
hand and from his own people.
Yeah. So

1985
02:00:50,190 --> 02:00:53,850
the military is, it's a lot of
flack for actually not I believe

1986
02:00:53,850 --> 02:00:57,030
by not because I don't think he
goes by the, or wants to go by

1987
02:00:57,030 --> 02:01:00,300
the Obama script. I think he's
probably thinking

1988
02:01:00,330 --> 02:01:03,180
more like, I'm sorry, you think
this isn't Obama script,

1989
02:01:03,870 --> 02:01:07,380
or whatever, okay, whoever the
shadow government script, the

1990
02:01:07,380 --> 02:01:10,170
CIA script, or whatever script,
it is somebody script that he

1991
02:01:10,170 --> 02:01:13,350
doesn't like, and he goes out of
his way. And I think he's got

1992
02:01:13,350 --> 02:01:16,800
Obama's ear a lot of times and
because Obama is being badgered

1993
02:01:16,800 --> 02:01:18,960
by everybody, and he doesn't
know what he's doing,

1994
02:01:18,960 --> 02:01:22,350
apparently. And so so that
they'd like to get rid of

1995
02:01:22,350 --> 02:01:26,940
Dempsey, because I believe he's
a roadblock. To the schemes are,

1996
02:01:26,970 --> 02:01:27,450
well, he

1997
02:01:27,450 --> 02:01:31,680
is laying back really Cavalier,
he's, he his whole body language

1998
02:01:31,680 --> 02:01:34,410
is saying, Yeah, I'll do
whatever. I'll just say whatever

1999
02:01:34,410 --> 02:01:38,130
you want. Oh, yeah, he's just
his body language is disengaged.

2000
02:01:38,160 --> 02:01:40,770
I think he's threatened that
they're threatening his job.

2001
02:01:41,340 --> 02:01:44,640
I get a different vibe I get I
don't care anymore vibe from

2002
02:01:44,640 --> 02:01:46,050
him. Okay, well, I

2003
02:01:46,050 --> 02:01:49,230
don't have a visual here. So
play is that the calculation

2004
02:01:49,230 --> 02:01:53,880
though, that ISIL presents a 911
level threat to the United

2005
02:01:53,880 --> 02:01:54,480
States. I'll

2006
02:01:55,620 --> 02:02:00,810
ask that the uncredited actor
playing a journalist in the

2007
02:02:00,810 --> 02:02:01,530
front row.

2008
02:02:01,680 --> 02:02:02,490
Wow.

2009
02:02:04,380 --> 02:02:09,870
Jim ISIL is a sophisticated and
well funded. Why because any

2010
02:02:10,860 --> 02:02:13,770
bunch of guys on the back of
pickup trucks with machine guns,

2011
02:02:14,460 --> 02:02:16,770
remember, sophisticated is that
it's

2012
02:02:16,770 --> 02:02:20,220
exquisite. And this is Hegel.
And he's going to talk about the

2013
02:02:20,220 --> 02:02:21,990
funding twice, which is fun
dates.

2014
02:02:22,710 --> 02:02:29,520
Jim ISIL is a sophisticated and
well funded as any group that we

2015
02:02:29,520 --> 02:02:35,250
have seen. They're beyond just a
terrorist group. They marry

2016
02:02:35,250 --> 02:02:41,700
ideology, a sophistication of
strategic and tactical military

2017
02:02:41,730 --> 02:02:45,300
prowess. They are tremendously
well funded. You already

2018
02:02:45,300 --> 02:02:49,860
said that Hegel tremendously
well funded which means you have

2019
02:02:49,860 --> 02:02:53,790
an ally of about $500 billion
and you go stand on the corner

2020
02:02:53,790 --> 02:02:56,430
and say, Hey, I got a lot of
money here who wants to give me

2021
02:02:56,430 --> 02:02:57,330
some weapons?

2022
02:03:00,330 --> 02:03:02,700
And where does that come from?
We know where it comes from.

2023
02:03:03,450 --> 02:03:08,040
Oh, this is beyond anything that
we've seen. So we must prepare

2024
02:03:08,070 --> 02:03:09,600
for for everything

2025
02:03:09,630 --> 02:03:12,990
and everything. Just for
everyone. Prepare for

2026
02:03:12,990 --> 02:03:13,590
everything.

2027
02:03:13,890 --> 02:03:17,400
The only way you do that is you
take a cold steely hard look at

2028
02:03:17,400 --> 02:03:20,220
it and and get ready guys.

2029
02:03:21,210 --> 02:03:25,200
I know you take a cold steely
hard look at it because

2030
02:03:25,200 --> 02:03:28,950
that's how you ever get this job
well

2031
02:03:28,980 --> 02:03:32,610
you know some actors get into
the casting couch John you know

2032
02:03:32,610 --> 02:03:36,840
how that works and possibility
look the guy reads his lines and

2033
02:03:36,840 --> 02:03:38,580
doesn't bump into furniture it's
good enough for

2034
02:03:38,580 --> 02:03:42,900
pair for for everything and the
only way you do that is you take

2035
02:03:42,900 --> 02:03:45,960
a cold steely hard look at it
and

2036
02:03:45,990 --> 02:03:50,580
and like this guy's ever seen
any military action? Yeah, I'm

2037
02:03:50,580 --> 02:03:53,700
gonna go in there and my RPG my
Rambo knife get

2038
02:03:53,700 --> 02:03:55,080
ready. Yeah, really need

2039
02:03:55,080 --> 02:04:01,290
to see the dance etc, is in the
the number of Europeans and and

2040
02:04:01,320 --> 02:04:06,660
other nationalities who have
come to the region to become

2041
02:04:06,660 --> 02:04:10,260
part of that ideology. And those
those folks who go home and some

2042
02:04:10,260 --> 02:04:13,950
folks, it's why I have
conversations with my European

2043
02:04:13,950 --> 02:04:16,500
colleagues about their southern
flank of NATO, which I think is

2044
02:04:16,500 --> 02:04:19,320
actually more threatened in the
near term than we are

2045
02:04:19,740 --> 02:04:24,840
nevertheless, because of open
borders and an immigration

2046
02:04:24,840 --> 02:04:28,140
issues. It's it's an immediate
threat, that is to say the

2047
02:04:28,350 --> 02:04:32,970
fighters who may leave the
current fate and migrate home.

2048
02:04:33,720 --> 02:04:38,070
Longer term, it's about ISOs
vision, which includes I

2049
02:04:38,070 --> 02:04:41,370
actually call it so here we go
right ISIS isas because it's

2050
02:04:41,370 --> 02:04:44,400
easier for me to remember that
their long term vision is the

2051
02:04:44,400 --> 02:04:47,580
Islamist state of Iraq and Al
Sham and I'll show him includes

2052
02:04:47,580 --> 02:04:51,780
Lebanon, the current state of
Israel, Jordan, Iraq, Syria, and

2053
02:04:51,780 --> 02:04:54,870
Kuwait. If they were to achieve
that vision, it would

2054
02:04:54,960 --> 02:04:59,700
fundamentally alter the face of
the Middle East and create a

2055
02:04:59,700 --> 02:05:02,430
secure are an environment that
would certainly threaten us in

2056
02:05:02,430 --> 02:05:03,000
many ways?

2057
02:05:03,480 --> 02:05:08,940
Yeah. Dempsey Yeah. Well, Jared
is a little more

2058
02:05:09,300 --> 02:05:12,990
sheave that so far all they've
gotten was a lot of desert.

2059
02:05:16,920 --> 02:05:20,580
Calm and this is good. This is
good. This is the top military

2060
02:05:20,580 --> 02:05:26,790
dude in the country, both of
them. Yeah. Alright, here we go.

2061
02:05:26,820 --> 02:05:33,390
This is a clip to the one I
want. I think it is.

2062
02:05:34,830 --> 02:05:42,300
We continue to explore all
options regarding ISIL and how

2063
02:05:42,300 --> 02:05:48,150
best we can assist partners in
that area, the Middle East, and

2064
02:05:48,150 --> 02:05:53,940
particularly in Iraq, against
ISIL. You all know that in the

2065
02:05:54,030 --> 02:05:54,720
presence

2066
02:05:54,750 --> 02:05:56,910
and here he says ISIL right
after you said ISIS

2067
02:05:58,110 --> 02:06:05,610
request in OCO for a $5 billion
and terrorism fund, there was

2068
02:06:05,610 --> 02:06:08,490
$500 million in there to

2069
02:06:08,519 --> 02:06:13,019
assist. Not Dempsey, though this
is behavioral. Yeah, let's

2070
02:06:13,019 --> 02:06:13,469
Hagel.

2071
02:06:13,830 --> 02:06:18,330
Are you sure? Yeah. Okay, well,
he is talking now about the

2072
02:06:18,330 --> 02:06:20,940
money, this what the anti
counterterrorism fund was

2073
02:06:20,940 --> 02:06:23,670
formed, and he's saying, Oh, we
have this money. Does anyone

2074
02:06:23,670 --> 02:06:26,910
want to take this money? We got
5 million 500 million right now.

2075
02:06:26,910 --> 02:06:28,950
544 99. They want to take this
money

2076
02:06:28,980 --> 02:06:33,750
proposition. So that's what
we're looking at. That's what

2077
02:06:33,750 --> 02:06:36,810
we're doing. And we will
continue to stay focused, as I

2078
02:06:36,810 --> 02:06:41,310
said, on on what we're doing now
and exploring all options,

2079
02:06:41,310 --> 02:06:41,580
because

2080
02:06:42,360 --> 02:06:45,480
the options that you refer to
include airstrikes across the

2081
02:06:45,480 --> 02:06:48,900
border, and like I said, we're
we're looking at all options.

2082
02:06:48,990 --> 02:06:51,120
General, do you believe that

2083
02:06:51,780 --> 02:06:56,220
ISIS, have a question, or
destroyed without addressing the

2084
02:06:56,220 --> 02:06:59,160
cross border threat from Syria?
To your question,

2085
02:06:59,490 --> 02:07:02,850
can they be defeated without
addressing that part of their

2086
02:07:02,850 --> 02:07:04,410
organization which resides in

2087
02:07:04,410 --> 02:07:07,350
a clear voice where he goes,
voice breaks up, it's, it's

2088
02:07:07,350 --> 02:07:10,560
always got a crack in it, then
then he's a Dempsey's clear

2089
02:07:10,590 --> 02:07:13,830
theory. The answer's no, no,
that will have to be addressed

2090
02:07:13,830 --> 02:07:16,980
on both sides of what is
essentially at this point and

2091
02:07:16,980 --> 02:07:22,710
essentially non essential. It
requires a variety of

2092
02:07:22,710 --> 02:07:25,950
instruments, only one small part
of which is airstrikes on a

2093
02:07:25,950 --> 02:07:29,250
variety of instruments, a
variety of instruments as we

2094
02:07:29,280 --> 02:07:32,520
continue our surgical operation
with our exquisite intelligence,

2095
02:07:32,550 --> 02:07:35,910
I'm not predicting those will
occur in Syria, at least not by

2096
02:07:35,910 --> 02:07:39,600
the United States of America.
But it requires the application

2097
02:07:39,600 --> 02:07:42,450
of all of the tools of national
power, diplomatic tools,

2098
02:07:42,480 --> 02:07:45,090
economic information, military,

2099
02:07:45,300 --> 02:07:49,200
and they're beyond just a
terrorist group. They met Hi,

2100
02:07:49,200 --> 02:07:49,620
there we go.

2101
02:07:49,770 --> 02:07:51,150
So we've heard that point all
right.

2102
02:07:53,070 --> 02:07:54,480
There beyond a terrorist group,

2103
02:07:54,870 --> 02:07:58,650
I have a fun little bit as we as
the news media local,

2104
02:07:58,860 --> 02:08:01,170
how many people are buying this
bullcrap,

2105
02:08:01,320 --> 02:08:07,770
everybody, everybody people are
in people are a general

2106
02:08:07,800 --> 02:08:12,990
genuinely fearful. This is why
it is it has to be repeated,

2107
02:08:12,990 --> 02:08:16,110
repeated, repeated, repeated. A
lot of stuff doesn't work

2108
02:08:16,110 --> 02:08:20,340
anymore. And I think they are
making some mistakes. But

2109
02:08:20,340 --> 02:08:26,100
there's a a good package that I
saw this in DC or by saw a news

2110
02:08:26,100 --> 02:08:30,420
report. And then I found this
package and Brian, the gay

2111
02:08:30,420 --> 02:08:32,820
Crusader who helped us
tremendously with his white

2112
02:08:32,820 --> 02:08:38,520
paper on the the phony baloney
Putin homophobia. Now he's in

2113
02:08:38,520 --> 02:08:41,820
Chicago. And he's been doing a
lot of work with me over the

2114
02:08:41,820 --> 02:08:45,300
past couple days. And then I
don't think he actually sent me

2115
02:08:45,300 --> 02:08:49,560
this clip. But somehow I'm tuned
into Chicago and this is an ISIS

2116
02:08:49,560 --> 02:08:52,680
threat. I believe I saw the same
picture in front of the or the

2117
02:08:52,680 --> 02:08:56,940
same idea of a cell phone
picture with something written

2118
02:08:56,940 --> 02:09:00,240
in Arabic held in front of a
building of importance. In this

2119
02:09:00,240 --> 02:09:02,730
case, it was or in the previous
case, it was the White House.

2120
02:09:02,850 --> 02:09:06,630
And now it was a a a building in
Chicago. And here's the Chicago

2121
02:09:06,630 --> 02:09:11,190
local news, which I think does
impact people's thinking when

2122
02:09:11,190 --> 02:09:15,600
it's really your local news
team. Were on the street looking

2123
02:09:15,600 --> 02:09:20,820
out for your interests, with
weather on the eights. It is

2124
02:09:20,940 --> 02:09:24,300
usually traffic on the eights
weather on the sixes, sometimes

2125
02:09:24,300 --> 02:09:28,200
horrible back and forth coming
on the heels of the US bombing

2126
02:09:28,200 --> 02:09:32,520
of ISIS forces in Iraq, Facebook
and Twitter pages with titles

2127
02:09:32,520 --> 02:09:38,340
like hashtag a message from ISIS
to us, and vice versa. There

2128
02:09:38,370 --> 02:09:42,180
near the top of this tit for tat
is the gruesome video and

2129
02:09:42,180 --> 02:09:45,870
pictures of journalist James
Foley's beheading. He was

2130
02:09:45,870 --> 02:09:50,850
strong, courageous, loving to
the end, we we just hardly

2131
02:09:50,850 --> 02:09:54,900
recognize our little boy. I
mean, he just, he was just a

2132
02:09:54,900 --> 02:09:55,620
hero.

2133
02:09:55,770 --> 02:09:59,160
As a mother and father's grief
goes public. Some Americans

2134
02:09:59,160 --> 02:10:03,180
posted on the sight disgusting
Photoshopped images of Islamic

2135
02:10:03,180 --> 02:10:06,810
religious leaders having sex
with animals and images of us

2136
02:10:06,810 --> 02:10:08,610
firepower firing harm

2137
02:10:08,610 --> 02:10:12,570
Americans anywhere we do what's
necessary to see the justice is

2138
02:10:12,570 --> 02:10:12,930
done

2139
02:10:12,990 --> 02:10:14,520
while we take a cold steely,

2140
02:10:14,520 --> 02:10:18,420
hard look at the tweets shows
the ISIS flag in front of the

2141
02:10:18,420 --> 02:10:22,050
White House, but scroll down a
little farther and you see a

2142
02:10:22,050 --> 02:10:25,110
picture that might look
familiar, not the writing, which

2143
02:10:25,110 --> 02:10:29,040
is in Arabic, but the building
in the background. That is on

2144
02:10:29,040 --> 02:10:34,650
Michigan Avenue. 307 North
Michigan Avenue to be precise.

2145
02:10:34,890 --> 02:10:38,460
It's at the corner of Michigan
and South water and it's called

2146
02:10:38,460 --> 02:10:44,100
The Old Republic building. No
cameras in the lobby. What we

2147
02:10:44,100 --> 02:10:47,970
found online was stunning. So we
brought it to the attention of

2148
02:10:47,970 --> 02:10:51,360
the building security team. The
apparent message in this photo

2149
02:10:51,360 --> 02:10:55,860
dated June 20 of this summer is
soldiers of the Islamic State of

2150
02:10:55,860 --> 02:11:00,750
Iraq and Syria will pass from
here soon. Other tweets show the

2151
02:11:00,750 --> 02:11:04,680
same two pictures saying we are
in your state. We are in your

2152
02:11:04,680 --> 02:11:08,610
cities. We are in your streets.
Would you like a pizza you are

2153
02:11:08,610 --> 02:11:13,710
our goals anywhere? More tweets
say we are here hashtag America

2154
02:11:13,740 --> 02:11:18,240
near our hashtag target with my
guy with a clip

2155
02:11:18,240 --> 02:11:21,240
of that that's a clip you got to
do take a look we're here

2156
02:11:21,240 --> 02:11:27,150
hashtag American next year I
hashtag target Yeah, that's it

2157
02:11:27,180 --> 02:11:32,040
are our goals anyway, more
tweets say we are here hashtag

2158
02:11:32,040 --> 02:11:36,720
America near our hashtag target
soon. I know when insecurity as

2159
02:11:36,720 --> 02:11:39,420
the Old Republic building would
comment door to the Secret

2160
02:11:39,420 --> 02:11:43,890
Service the FBI or Chicago
police. To be clear we don't

2161
02:11:43,890 --> 02:11:47,040
know who took this photo and
posted it. No one knows why yet

2162
02:11:47,040 --> 02:11:51,660
this building, but it is part of
a battle of words and images

2163
02:11:51,660 --> 02:11:55,350
going viral between apparent
ISIS followers and US citizen

2164
02:11:55,350 --> 02:11:55,920
that's around.

2165
02:11:55,950 --> 02:11:59,250
That's right. We are now
fighting on Twitter. We are

2166
02:11:59,250 --> 02:12:01,980
fighting ISIS on Twitter boo
taken Woods Star

2167
02:12:01,980 --> 02:12:07,710
Trek episodes in the woods to
ISIS baby the wood. Oh, okay.

2168
02:12:07,740 --> 02:12:14,010
Now, this brings me to the I'm
sorry. I'm sorry. I have to do

2169
02:12:14,010 --> 02:12:19,020
it. This brings me to James
Foley. We do not have to

2170
02:12:19,020 --> 02:12:22,680
deconstruct anymore about the
video. I think we're very clear

2171
02:12:22,680 --> 02:12:23,310
on now. But

2172
02:12:23,310 --> 02:12:27,840
I would like to play a clip. The
Foley clip. Yeah, just so we

2173
02:12:27,840 --> 02:12:29,880
have a background here because I
wanted I do have one thing to

2174
02:12:29,880 --> 02:12:30,840
add Of course,

2175
02:12:31,470 --> 02:12:34,200
as you prefer as dealer's choice

2176
02:12:34,410 --> 02:12:36,780
is the backstory about hostage
Foley.

2177
02:12:38,820 --> 02:12:40,980
Any other intro was that good
enough? That's good enough

2178
02:12:40,980 --> 02:12:41,370
tonight.

2179
02:12:41,370 --> 02:12:44,700
We know ISIS demanded a fortune
for journalist James Foley

2180
02:12:44,700 --> 02:12:50,880
before they beheaded him $132
million a ransom the US refused

2181
02:12:50,880 --> 02:12:55,020
to pay. But we've learned the
military did try to rescue him.

2182
02:12:56,190 --> 02:12:59,940
The hostages including fully and
three others were thought to be

2183
02:12:59,940 --> 02:13:03,930
at this camp. Inside an oil
refinery in northern Syria, an

2184
02:13:03,930 --> 02:13:08,250
area controlled by ISIS. Two
dozen special operation forces

2185
02:13:08,250 --> 02:13:12,000
commandos dropped from Blackhawk
helicopters outfitted with

2186
02:13:12,000 --> 02:13:15,810
stealth technology to avoid
detection. With surveillance

2187
02:13:15,840 --> 02:13:16,950
aircraft overhead.

2188
02:13:20,580 --> 02:13:27,360
Stealth technology he was
dressed in cloaking shield as he

2189
02:13:27,360 --> 02:13:31,290
repelled from the Black Hawk
which has no apparent stealth

2190
02:13:31,290 --> 02:13:32,010
technology.

2191
02:13:33,720 --> 02:13:37,800
Pool crap surveillance aircraft
overhead the team swooped in to

2192
02:13:37,800 --> 02:13:41,610
search for the hostages. They
encountered ISIS militants and

2193
02:13:41,610 --> 02:13:46,590
engaged in a firefight but the
hostages were gone. Several ISIS

2194
02:13:46,590 --> 02:13:50,250
fighters were killed. One
American Commando was injured,

2195
02:13:50,310 --> 02:13:53,970
the rest were flown to safety.
US officials admit that the

2196
02:13:53,970 --> 02:13:57,990
covert missions launched in
early July and was based on good

2197
02:13:57,990 --> 02:14:02,010
but not great intelligence about
the location of the hostages.

2198
02:14:02,580 --> 02:14:08,160
Okay, now this is a lie there is
there is no official on record.

2199
02:14:08,430 --> 02:14:12,690
They say US officials there's no
one on record about this. No one

2200
02:14:12,690 --> 02:14:15,840
not a single person is a lie.

2201
02:14:16,170 --> 02:14:19,170
They had a nice animation. Well,
of course that makes it

2202
02:14:19,170 --> 02:14:21,780
believable. Just like wow, they
screwed up because they could

2203
02:14:21,780 --> 02:14:22,770
have had sound effects.

2204
02:14:23,250 --> 02:14:26,700
Just like to I started
elsewhere. I started with the

2205
02:14:26,700 --> 02:14:30,810
130 $3 million which was
irritating to me for a number of

2206
02:14:30,810 --> 02:14:34,500
reasons. One because they could
just say it was 100 million

2207
02:14:34,500 --> 02:14:37,320
euros because that's the
translation they're making. They

2208
02:14:37,320 --> 02:14:41,520
had to slide to $132 million
when when the dollar became a

2209
02:14:41,520 --> 02:14:46,230
bit stronger. Who was this
attributed to I was interested

2210
02:14:46,230 --> 02:14:50,910
in knowing and I went to
something that I have seen no

2211
02:14:50,910 --> 02:14:56,490
one do other than the narrative.
So two things This video is not

2212
02:14:56,490 --> 02:15:00,120
even important if you see the
video or not. We all know was

2213
02:15:01,020 --> 02:15:05,040
brutally beheaded. We didn't see
it it's not actually there. We

2214
02:15:05,040 --> 02:15:06,870
don't think it happened at all.
There's no blood, there's

2215
02:15:06,900 --> 02:15:10,200
nothing but okay, it doesn't
matter if this work that's fine.

2216
02:15:10,230 --> 02:15:13,350
The message is clear, brutally
beheaded.

2217
02:15:13,500 --> 02:15:16,380
And what's interesting to me
about that and then the other

2218
02:15:16,380 --> 02:15:19,650
guy that got another guy now
they're gonna be head is it's

2219
02:15:19,650 --> 02:15:22,770
the one guy standing there when
almost all the beheadings and

2220
02:15:22,770 --> 02:15:24,270
all the other exhibits

2221
02:15:24,480 --> 02:15:25,620
have gotten lewd going.

2222
02:15:27,660 --> 02:15:30,210
For five people in the
background, and then they have

2223
02:15:30,210 --> 02:15:34,770
the Oakland Raider flag is there
and all this stuff, and it's a

2224
02:15:34,770 --> 02:15:37,680
different different thing. Now
you have one guy standing by

2225
02:15:37,680 --> 02:15:41,070
himself with apparently he could
be one, he could be single

2226
02:15:41,070 --> 02:15:44,850
handedly single handing the
camera, he may set up shop with

2227
02:15:44,850 --> 02:15:48,270
a camera by himself, like, you
know, like cheap productions in

2228
02:15:48,270 --> 02:15:51,240
certain local markets, right?
Yep. Well, you do a stand.

2229
02:15:51,510 --> 02:15:54,750
You set it up to frame it and
you get in front. And he had to

2230
02:15:54,750 --> 02:15:59,160
switch because he had to put the
mic on him. So the way he had

2231
02:15:59,160 --> 02:16:03,030
warming one mic, I had to stop
and there's lots of fade cuts

2232
02:16:03,030 --> 02:16:05,280
there. You know, it's not like
had a multi camera shoot with a

2233
02:16:05,820 --> 02:16:07,980
little post on with the

2234
02:16:09,270 --> 02:16:11,880
there are real beheading videos
out there. And the real

2235
02:16:11,880 --> 02:16:16,680
beheading videos or not with a
with a with a lav microphone and

2236
02:16:16,680 --> 02:16:20,010
the guys are not all aware and
balaclavas they are and they got

2237
02:16:20,010 --> 02:16:23,130
big ass knives and they cut from
the back to the front because

2238
02:16:23,130 --> 02:16:26,490
that's how you kill animals.
This is the slaughtering of

2239
02:16:26,490 --> 02:16:30,090
sheep is done this way. I have
two emails from two of our

2240
02:16:30,090 --> 02:16:36,030
native Arabian Muslim producers.
A number one Hey, if you

2241
02:16:36,030 --> 02:16:38,100
observations about the video
since I'm a Native American,

2242
02:16:38,310 --> 02:16:41,880
Native Arab Muslim, and I had my
share of crap that I see online

2243
02:16:41,880 --> 02:16:47,550
and TV, the English chap John is
left handed. Islamic strict

2244
02:16:47,550 --> 02:16:52,560
teaching discourages the use of
the left hand to eat shake hands

2245
02:16:52,620 --> 02:16:56,400
receive something from someone
and slaughter animals. It's

2246
02:16:56,400 --> 02:17:00,180
clear that John didn't do it if
it happened at all IS militants.

2247
02:17:00,450 --> 02:17:03,180
nostra Free Army and other
groups are quite fast in

2248
02:17:03,180 --> 02:17:06,090
chopping heads from other videos
I saw they chop heads within

2249
02:17:06,090 --> 02:17:09,450
nine seconds. John's hand is
clean when he grabs the other

2250
02:17:09,450 --> 02:17:12,270
journalists at the end of the
video. It's quite windy but you

2251
02:17:12,300 --> 02:17:16,650
don't hear the wind John shirt
is clean and ironed look at the

2252
02:17:16,650 --> 02:17:19,410
land and the Slippers of Foley
it looks like this region it

2253
02:17:19,410 --> 02:17:22,350
looks like the Gulf region sand
and the slippers look familiar

2254
02:17:22,350 --> 02:17:26,220
to the ones worn here. Two
minutes, two minutes in the

2255
02:17:26,220 --> 02:17:29,940
movie you'll see that Foley is
poorly shaved bad Barber. The

2256
02:17:29,940 --> 02:17:32,700
body shot has a knife that looks
different than the one John is

2257
02:17:32,700 --> 02:17:37,830
using. And and he said however
this ship has sailed is indeed

2258
02:17:37,830 --> 02:17:41,550
in Arabic saying which we had
questioned I think the left hand

2259
02:17:41,550 --> 02:17:46,110
and he did use his knife in the
left hand is very very damning

2260
02:17:46,110 --> 02:17:49,980
evidence. Then we have Ahmed who
comes in with more and native

2261
02:17:49,980 --> 02:17:53,850
analysis. I listen to episode
645 In your commentary about the

2262
02:17:53,850 --> 02:17:56,820
video and the President's speech
about ISIS as a person of Middle

2263
02:17:56,820 --> 02:17:59,550
Eastern descent who speak fluid
Arabic and who follows lots of

2264
02:17:59,550 --> 02:18:07,140
news and shows a Middle Eastern
TV this is why we are they I

2265
02:18:07,140 --> 02:18:10,020
want to point out a few things.
One I did not personally watch

2266
02:18:10,020 --> 02:18:12,810
Foley's beheading video, but I
heard you and John say they used

2267
02:18:12,810 --> 02:18:16,050
a pen or small knife to cut his
head off. Here are a few things

2268
02:18:16,050 --> 02:18:19,650
to note in Saudi Arabia, where
they implement the strictest

2269
02:18:19,650 --> 02:18:22,830
Sharia law, when they execute
someone because he has committed

2270
02:18:22,830 --> 02:18:27,930
murder it is by a sword, a big
sharp one. It's typically by one

2271
02:18:27,930 --> 02:18:30,690
blow to the head to the back of
the neck that splits the head

2272
02:18:30,690 --> 02:18:34,710
from the body. Be when different
terrorist groups in the Middle

2273
02:18:34,710 --> 02:18:38,160
East like to make a scare buzz
in the media, they typically

2274
02:18:38,160 --> 02:18:40,800
will execute people by having
them get down on their knees and

2275
02:18:40,800 --> 02:18:43,590
shoot them in the back of the
head. Or just have them lay face

2276
02:18:43,590 --> 02:18:46,350
down hands tied behind their
backs and again just own load

2277
02:18:46,350 --> 02:18:50,310
their AKs into them like
prisoners of war. See, as far as

2278
02:18:50,310 --> 02:18:53,460
I know, the only thing that
involves a knife and cutting the

2279
02:18:53,460 --> 02:18:57,750
throat is when slaughtering
animals. To you both commented

2280
02:18:57,750 --> 02:19:01,410
on Obama's speech and ISIS when
he said they have no religion.

2281
02:19:01,560 --> 02:19:04,890
And John said that it was poorly
written. You'll recall this.

2282
02:19:05,370 --> 02:19:09,810
Yeah. Let me tell you says our
analyst. This statement is a

2283
02:19:09,810 --> 02:19:15,060
literal translation of an Arabic
statement. This makes me wonder

2284
02:19:15,060 --> 02:19:17,730
if the person who wrote the
speech for Obama is of Middle

2285
02:19:17,730 --> 02:19:21,270
Eastern origin cannot prove or
disprove this, but I tell you I

2286
02:19:21,270 --> 02:19:25,020
have never heard that statement
used in the US before a literal

2287
02:19:25,020 --> 02:19:27,150
translation from Arabic.

2288
02:19:28,620 --> 02:19:32,400
Of note and I think we should
pay attention to that.

2289
02:19:35,219 --> 02:19:37,259
Yeah, doesn't impress you. I'm
sorry. I thought You thought you

2290
02:19:37,259 --> 02:19:38,489
would be more impressed.

2291
02:19:39,059 --> 02:19:42,719
Well, I'm don't need to be that
impressed. Okay. I like these

2292
02:19:42,719 --> 02:19:45,749
guys coming in with this stuff.
Because it brings us down to a

2293
02:19:45,749 --> 02:19:48,689
reality that this apparently
none of the news media wants to

2294
02:19:48,689 --> 02:19:51,359
deal with and that they don't
they just take everything at

2295
02:19:51,359 --> 02:19:52,259
face value and run

2296
02:19:52,260 --> 02:19:55,770
with it. So this very heroic
American journalist of great

2297
02:19:55,770 --> 02:20:00,420
stature, works for an outfit
called the Global Power Post,

2298
02:20:00,960 --> 02:20:04,410
which is not really mentioned
that he worked for the Global

2299
02:20:04,410 --> 02:20:10,080
Post. Well, let's take a look at
the Global Post, shall we? A

2300
02:20:10,080 --> 02:20:14,790
Global Post has no reasonable
business model. They're selling

2301
02:20:14,790 --> 02:20:22,650
$10 CPM banner ads in order to
make money, and all of their

2302
02:20:22,650 --> 02:20:28,110
journalists are freelancers. In
fact, Jim Foley was a freelancer

2303
02:20:28,110 --> 02:20:31,860
in Iraq and he has sold his
stories and had a donate button

2304
02:20:31,860 --> 02:20:38,340
on his in Dash iraq.org website,
which you can still find on

2305
02:20:38,340 --> 02:20:42,270
archive.org app just because I
thought it was funny I it was

2306
02:20:42,300 --> 02:20:45,960
available. So I registered it
now I own it. But that was his

2307
02:20:45,990 --> 02:20:51,060
his website in dashboard
rack.org where he was in Iraq

2308
02:20:51,060 --> 02:20:55,230
and selling his stories as, as
he would say. The global polls

2309
02:20:55,230 --> 02:20:58,470
I'm reading from the from the
book of knowledge is an online

2310
02:20:58,500 --> 02:21:01,470
US news company that focuses on
international news founded on

2311
02:21:01,470 --> 02:21:06,600
January 12 2009, by Charles M.
Senate and Philip s. Bell Boni

2312
02:21:06,780 --> 02:21:10,620
before I go further into Bell
Boni, I want to go back circle

2313
02:21:10,620 --> 02:21:18,120
back to the $133 million. That
was the obviously and just a non

2314
02:21:18,120 --> 02:21:21,720
starter for us to pay. And let
me play for you. And I

2315
02:21:21,720 --> 02:21:25,620
mentioned something here,
please, which is the this was

2316
02:21:25,620 --> 02:21:30,270
Family Research. Family came up
with this. Apparently there used

2317
02:21:30,270 --> 02:21:33,870
to be an international agreement
that when when when a citizen

2318
02:21:33,870 --> 02:21:36,600
was captured in these
situations, the country would

2319
02:21:36,600 --> 02:21:39,990
pay the money, the ransom money,
and that's still the case with

2320
02:21:40,200 --> 02:21:45,480
Germany, France, Italy, UK,
everybody. But we, at some point

2321
02:21:45,480 --> 02:21:47,640
without really much of an
announcement opted out

2322
02:21:47,640 --> 02:21:51,360
completely. And the United
States will not pay any ransom.

2323
02:21:51,360 --> 02:21:56,160
And we actually as a country
require the family to pay if

2324
02:21:56,160 --> 02:21:57,510
anybody's gonna pay at all,

2325
02:21:57,570 --> 02:22:00,390
and unless it's Sergeant
Bergdahl and then we'll trade

2326
02:22:00,390 --> 02:22:00,930
out some.

2327
02:22:02,070 --> 02:22:04,710
So it's also peculiar if you
think about it, because the

2328
02:22:04,710 --> 02:22:09,000
policy is not to pay anything
ever. The family has to pay. We

2329
02:22:09,000 --> 02:22:09,360
don't even

2330
02:22:09,360 --> 02:22:13,080
remember yesterday's news, let
alone that bit. Anyway, so go

2331
02:22:13,080 --> 02:22:17,700
on. Okay, so I've been looking
into all I've been looking into,

2332
02:22:18,000 --> 02:22:21,180
Oh, I've been looking into this,
by the

2333
02:22:21,180 --> 02:22:24,630
way, keep interrupting. What
does it do what happened with

2334
02:22:24,630 --> 02:22:28,170
Bergdahl news, welcome. Nobody
has covered the guy since I bled

2335
02:22:28,200 --> 02:22:30,450
blue three months ago, he just
been dropped out of the news

2336
02:22:30,450 --> 02:22:32,580
cycle. It's like Bergdahl story.
Forget it.

2337
02:22:33,300 --> 02:22:38,100
Because we had an earthquake,
because we had kids dying in

2338
02:22:38,100 --> 02:22:40,650
Gaza, because this is the whole
point.

2339
02:22:41,910 --> 02:22:44,460
It's not really a part of the
show. Okay, now I'm gonna shut

2340
02:22:44,460 --> 02:22:44,970
up. Oh,

2341
02:22:45,000 --> 02:22:48,930
no, y'all need your input.
Global Post. John, this is a

2342
02:22:48,930 --> 02:22:54,120
Bogut of bull crap outfit. This
is not a real news organization

2343
02:22:54,120 --> 02:22:57,000
with a bunch of people who are
freelancing and 20 bucks for

2344
02:22:57,000 --> 02:23:01,350
their story. But the founders of
this organization are definitely

2345
02:23:01,350 --> 02:23:10,500
interesting. Let us go to the to
the website Global Post, I

2346
02:23:10,500 --> 02:23:14,220
wouldn't and while I'm going to
I'm going to play a clip for you

2347
02:23:14,820 --> 02:23:20,130
on global post.com. And I will
meanwhile I would like you to

2348
02:23:20,130 --> 02:23:22,980
take a look at the founders of
this organization look at their

2349
02:23:22,980 --> 02:23:28,980
bios of these are very, very
heavy and hard hitters. For the

2350
02:23:29,010 --> 02:23:33,600
for the clear non that can you
look up and see what the traffic

2351
02:23:33,600 --> 02:23:36,270
is, can we still do that? It's
like a, it's like a what do you

2352
02:23:36,270 --> 02:23:36,540
use?

2353
02:23:37,170 --> 02:23:41,880
isn't really it's, you could,
okay, I can I can get some

2354
02:23:41,880 --> 02:23:42,900
sketchy traffic,

2355
02:23:43,050 --> 02:23:47,820
get some sketchy traffic. And I
found a very recent interview

2356
02:23:48,180 --> 02:23:54,330
with the CEO and co founder of
Global Post, talking

2357
02:23:54,330 --> 02:24:01,320
specifically about the the
ransom, and that the bombing, of

2358
02:24:01,320 --> 02:24:03,720
course, sealed his face that
there wasn't there were in

2359
02:24:03,720 --> 02:24:08,490
conversations and the amount of
the ransom, which we all know

2360
02:24:08,490 --> 02:24:11,490
now and you just played in that
very official sounding clip is

2361
02:24:11,490 --> 02:24:13,140
$133 million.

2362
02:24:13,859 --> 02:24:18,209
We never hesitated on that. I
mean, I'm fully conversant with

2363
02:24:18,209 --> 02:24:23,069
the United States laws on this.
I'm fully conversant with the,

2364
02:24:23,369 --> 02:24:26,999
you know, the kind of body of
discussion in in journalism,

2365
02:24:26,999 --> 02:24:31,739
about paying a ransom and how it
might stimulate others. But when

2366
02:24:31,739 --> 02:24:37,109
it's when it's your person, your
child or your colleague. And you

2367
02:24:37,109 --> 02:24:40,799
know, it's the only way to bring
them home. That's what you do.

2368
02:24:40,889 --> 02:24:47,489
And that's why the family with
our help, was deeply engaged in

2369
02:24:47,489 --> 02:24:52,259
raising that money and we ran
out of time when the bombing

2370
02:24:52,259 --> 02:25:01,109
began. That sealed Jim's fate,
unfortunately, These people

2371
02:25:03,359 --> 02:25:07,679
don't have any mercy. And if
they can't have money, they'll

2372
02:25:07,679 --> 02:25:11,189
have revenge. And they took it.
What was the particular amount

2373
02:25:11,189 --> 02:25:14,939
that they demanded? We did learn
from the the European

2374
02:25:14,939 --> 02:25:19,199
journalists who were freed. The
amount of the ransoms that were

2375
02:25:19,199 --> 02:25:23,309
paid by their government or with
their governments assistance,

2376
02:25:23,309 --> 02:25:23,549
which

2377
02:25:23,550 --> 02:25:27,300
would, I presume, be 100 million
euros. And it was in the

2378
02:25:27,300 --> 02:25:33,120
range of two to three and a half
million euros or let's say

2379
02:25:33,120 --> 02:25:38,040
around $5 million. We we we felt
that $5 million was the amount

2380
02:25:38,040 --> 02:25:42,570
that we needed to raise in order
to bring Jim back.

2381
02:25:42,750 --> 02:25:49,860
Oh, well, really, this is his
boss, running the Global Post

2382
02:25:50,010 --> 02:25:56,550
website. It was trying to raise
$5 million. So I'm going to just

2383
02:25:56,550 --> 02:26:00,930
presume that maybe this seals
with stealth technology

2384
02:26:00,930 --> 02:26:03,900
rappelling down from black cops
was crap as well.

2385
02:26:07,290 --> 02:26:08,580
Yeah, yeah. Mr.

2386
02:26:08,580 --> 02:26:10,950
Bell Boni is the President Chief
Executive and founder of global

2387
02:26:10,950 --> 02:26:13,830
posts one of the country's
leading journalist entrepreneurs

2388
02:26:13,830 --> 02:26:16,710
during his career has been the
director leadership, nearly

2389
02:26:16,710 --> 02:26:20,070
every major award in American
journalism including a Peabody

2390
02:26:20,070 --> 02:26:23,730
awards DuPont Columbia Moreau
Emmy Awards. He is the founder

2391
02:26:23,730 --> 02:26:27,630
of NEC in New England cable
news. He served as special

2392
02:26:27,630 --> 02:26:30,870
assistant, the chief executive
of the Hearst Corporation, this

2393
02:26:30,870 --> 02:26:34,140
is a very very big big level
heavy hitter but there's some

2394
02:26:34,140 --> 02:26:37,980
other interesting people on
board who have backgrounds in US

2395
02:26:37,980 --> 02:26:42,390
AI D H. K and a consulting which
I think is Hill and Knowlton,

2396
02:26:42,390 --> 02:26:48,420
something some acquisition they
did. Benjamin Gomez the pilot

2397
02:26:48,420 --> 02:26:54,090
house associates This is a very
large very big money pilothouse

2398
02:26:54,090 --> 02:26:58,410
Associates LLC and Boston's
Family Investment Office. Big

2399
02:26:58,500 --> 02:27:00,240
big money.

2400
02:27:01,080 --> 02:27:06,150
This the hostellers Amis be
Hostetter Jr. co founder former

2401
02:27:06,150 --> 02:27:08,940
chairman chief executive of
continental Cablevision, so

2402
02:27:08,940 --> 02:27:12,450
these people all over media and
they have this rinky dink

2403
02:27:12,780 --> 02:27:18,570
global, the intercept. Pure
drive my cars outfit is more

2404
02:27:18,570 --> 02:27:22,170
impressive than what these guys
have put together. But somehow

2405
02:27:22,200 --> 02:27:26,040
they've got this whole thing set
up and they have a very

2406
02:27:26,040 --> 02:27:31,290
interesting foundation called
the which is the funders Ground

2407
02:27:31,320 --> 02:27:36,240
Truth project. So the funders of
Global Post have a Ground Truth

2408
02:27:36,240 --> 02:27:43,680
project Foundation, which is
funded by you're gonna love

2409
02:27:43,680 --> 02:27:48,390
this. The Galloway Family
Foundation, the Ford Foundation,

2410
02:27:48,390 --> 02:27:51,600
the big trust family, the Henry
Luce Lucci Foundation, the

2411
02:27:51,600 --> 02:27:54,900
Pulitzer Center on Crisis
Reporting, and of course, in

2412
02:27:54,900 --> 02:27:58,590
partnership with the Kaiser
Family Foundation. This is all

2413
02:27:58,590 --> 02:28:04,380
tied into Global Post, Jim Foley
himself on his LinkedIn profile,

2414
02:28:04,380 --> 02:28:10,020
which I can only assume is real.
This number of his jobs

2415
02:28:10,020 --> 02:28:15,930
including in March of 2010 2008,
July 2008, to march 2010. He was

2416
02:28:15,930 --> 02:28:24,240
a reporting officer for us AI D.
Intact we're Baghdad, US AI D as

2417
02:28:24,240 --> 02:28:26,130
you know, a State Department you
might as well just say that as

2418
02:28:26,130 --> 02:28:28,320
part of the intelligence
community, the exquisite

2419
02:28:28,320 --> 02:28:30,120
intelligence that was actually

2420
02:28:30,120 --> 02:28:34,500
the key one of the key elements
in the is economic hitman

2421
02:28:34,860 --> 02:28:35,640
thesis.

2422
02:28:36,420 --> 02:28:40,860
The taxpayer project is for
developing national capacity in

2423
02:28:40,860 --> 02:28:46,860
public management specifically
in Iraq. So he was a part of

2424
02:28:46,860 --> 02:28:50,190
that and it's related to tat
where oil services and drilling

2425
02:28:50,220 --> 02:28:54,990
again, Basra and Iraq and so he
was doing this somehow they

2426
02:28:54,990 --> 02:28:57,180
decide to become a journalist
and he of course, they a

2427
02:28:57,180 --> 02:29:01,230
fearless fearless, fearless
journalist. I do not dispute

2428
02:29:01,230 --> 02:29:06,900
that at ever at all. However,
there was a interview, quite

2429
02:29:06,900 --> 02:29:13,710
irritating interview with two of
his siblings, his brother

2430
02:29:13,710 --> 02:29:19,770
Michael, and his sister Kate,
and I will play with of all

2431
02:29:19,770 --> 02:29:25,140
people, Katie Couric, who now is
doing this exclusively for the

2432
02:29:25,140 --> 02:29:28,380
Yahoo that she's very familiar
with the setup. She's in the

2433
02:29:28,380 --> 02:29:31,620
Yahoo studio. Everything is
exactly the way she would like

2434
02:29:31,620 --> 02:29:33,480
to do it. That's even though
we've got a little bit of the

2435
02:29:33,480 --> 02:29:38,640
delay going on. The brother
Michael has an IFBB in the

2436
02:29:38,640 --> 02:29:42,600
sister that I could tell doesn't
does not have an IFBB she's very

2437
02:29:42,600 --> 02:29:47,370
quiet during most of the
interview. Most of the entire

2438
02:29:47,370 --> 02:29:49,350
family is military.

2439
02:29:49,529 --> 02:29:53,159
Why would a person being
interviewed in a live

2440
02:29:53,159 --> 02:29:55,649
environment like that have an
eye FB unless they were the

2441
02:29:55,649 --> 02:29:57,059
interviewer only?

2442
02:29:57,359 --> 02:29:59,969
Well, it couldn't be there.

2443
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:04,800
is no reason I've done these.
There's no reason for the

2444
02:30:04,800 --> 02:30:09,060
interviewee to have an IFBB
unless they're being coached.

2445
02:30:09,120 --> 02:30:12,510
If they both had it, I would say
it's because they needed to hear

2446
02:30:12,630 --> 02:30:16,500
the questions. Oh, with where
they were, they weren't at

2447
02:30:16,500 --> 02:30:20,010
Studio. They were in their
family home.

2448
02:30:20,160 --> 02:30:23,820
Okay, but you have an IFP did
not go to heaven. I

2449
02:30:23,850 --> 02:30:27,780
thank you. So I'm like, I only
have one camera view. So I

2450
02:30:27,780 --> 02:30:30,900
can't. And she has long hair. So
I can't really

2451
02:30:30,960 --> 02:30:32,730
see she could possibly have one.

2452
02:30:32,910 --> 02:30:36,690
Yes, but he is in control of
this interview. He is taking

2453
02:30:36,720 --> 02:30:41,280
obvious command. So the if B, I
Well, first, let me give you

2454
02:30:41,280 --> 02:30:43,860
some background, the family from
the interview itself with Katie.

2455
02:30:43,950 --> 02:30:47,550
Oh, by the way, that everything
is perfect for Katie. But the

2456
02:30:47,580 --> 02:30:50,190
what she's missing and I'm sure
she's angry about it. They do

2457
02:30:50,190 --> 02:30:55,350
not have the lighting at NBC
that she is used at Yahoo that

2458
02:30:55,350 --> 02:30:59,100
she's used to at NBC. And this
will be a point of contention

2459
02:30:59,100 --> 02:31:03,090
for this will be a contractual
negotiating point. It's

2460
02:31:03,120 --> 02:31:06,180
pathetic. The Coronavirus
Consulting Group will gladly

2461
02:31:06,180 --> 02:31:07,200
help you with your lighting.

2462
02:31:07,230 --> 02:31:11,580
Katie, I know you're a nurse in
the Navy. And then you go nurse

2463
02:31:11,580 --> 02:31:15,750
in the Navy. He said, five kids
in your family, two of your

2464
02:31:15,750 --> 02:31:17,880
brothers are in the military.

2465
02:31:17,910 --> 02:31:21,540
So that means two of your
brothers. That's three and then

2466
02:31:21,540 --> 02:31:25,080
so only one of them is not in
military in one form or the

2467
02:31:25,080 --> 02:31:29,550
other. So this is just a
military family. Just it is a

2468
02:31:29,550 --> 02:31:33,120
military family. And I'll play
the rest of that clip later.

2469
02:31:33,360 --> 02:31:35,940
This is important. I want you to
listen to the opening of this

2470
02:31:35,940 --> 02:31:39,210
interview. The first thing I
didn't like is they're sitting

2471
02:31:39,210 --> 02:31:43,680
in the family home and that you
see it it's the family home. And

2472
02:31:43,710 --> 02:31:45,870
if you're in the family home,
you're doing an interview and

2473
02:31:45,870 --> 02:31:48,750
you've been you are saying that
you've been with a family and

2474
02:31:48,750 --> 02:31:51,570
it's been a very good time. And
we've had you know we're coming

2475
02:31:51,570 --> 02:31:56,640
together and we're remembering
our brother. Are you drinking

2476
02:31:56,640 --> 02:31:59,310
Starbucks during the interview?
Or do you have a nice cup of

2477
02:31:59,310 --> 02:32:02,340
freshly brewed coffee that your
family members have lovingly put

2478
02:32:02,340 --> 02:32:03,240
together for you?

2479
02:32:03,510 --> 02:32:07,440
I would have a cup of family mug
from probably from the kitchen

2480
02:32:08,190 --> 02:32:11,670
with something in it a drink
water but the coffee tea

2481
02:32:12,960 --> 02:32:16,080
I did not like this at all. And
it was a

2482
02:32:16,080 --> 02:32:19,860
Starbucks cup. Yes, it was a
Starbucks cup and

2483
02:32:19,919 --> 02:32:23,459
the family home the family home
well. Now

2484
02:32:23,519 --> 02:32:25,679
maybe the crew brought a bunch
of Starbucks for him.

2485
02:32:27,630 --> 02:32:30,930
He's in the family home they
they do not live in the family

2486
02:32:30,930 --> 02:32:34,080
home they've come home to be
with the family and they do talk

2487
02:32:34,080 --> 02:32:37,020
and I don't have it but they do
talk in this interview about how

2488
02:32:37,080 --> 02:32:39,990
it's been loving to remember Jim
and to be together and they got

2489
02:32:39,990 --> 02:32:41,910
little kids running around
didn't hear any of that by the

2490
02:32:41,910 --> 02:32:47,010
way. And then the interview
opens and listen carefully.

2491
02:32:47,010 --> 02:32:47,340
First

2492
02:32:47,340 --> 02:32:50,910
of all, we'd like to extend our
deepest sympathies to both of

2493
02:32:50,910 --> 02:32:54,930
you and your entire family. I
think it's hard for all of us

2494
02:32:54,930 --> 02:32:58,530
Katie and Michael to imagine the
pain you've been going through

2495
02:32:58,530 --> 02:32:59,310
so did you hear that?

2496
02:33:00,960 --> 02:33:03,870
Noise Yeah, I did hear it.

2497
02:33:04,470 --> 02:33:07,170
What do you think that was? Of
all the things that could happen

2498
02:33:07,200 --> 02:33:08,700
in your family home?

2499
02:33:10,770 --> 02:33:14,160
What sound like guys sound like
a piece of the set fell over?

2500
02:33:14,190 --> 02:33:19,470
Oh god you are good. Go to the
Following URL John C. Dvorak as

2501
02:33:19,470 --> 02:33:28,200
I have pre produced this i t m
dot i m slash John Foley kids

2502
02:33:28,230 --> 02:33:36,420
FOLEYK I D. S. And tell me when
it's rolling and just watch that

2503
02:33:36,420 --> 02:33:40,620
this is the video of what you
just heard. Is it you got it?

2504
02:33:41,400 --> 02:33:42,240
Yeah, yeah.

2505
02:33:44,310 --> 02:33:46,710
Tom rolling it now, which is
probably didn't tell

2506
02:33:46,710 --> 02:33:49,530
me what you see. There you go. I
can hear you.

2507
02:33:50,040 --> 02:33:53,250
Any aren't over New Hampshire
this morning. First of all, we'd

2508
02:33:53,250 --> 02:33:56,640
like to extend our deepest
sympathies to both of you and

2509
02:33:56,640 --> 02:34:00,780
your entire family. I think it's
hard for all of us, Katie and

2510
02:34:00,780 --> 02:34:04,320
Michael to imagine that you've
been going through so

2511
02:34:04,320 --> 02:34:05,190
it's interesting.

2512
02:34:05,490 --> 02:34:09,960
How often does it happen in your
family home? That a picture on

2513
02:34:09,960 --> 02:34:15,780
the wall. Not only does it fall
off, it just drops off the wall,

2514
02:34:15,960 --> 02:34:21,180
but you also do not respond to
it. This is a set John, this is

2515
02:34:21,180 --> 02:34:25,410
a set. And the same stagehand
who brought him the Starbucks

2516
02:34:25,410 --> 02:34:29,820
coffee, didn't nail that picture
in properly. I'm sorry. It looks

2517
02:34:29,820 --> 02:34:32,370
I was glued on and now you look
at that whole video in a

2518
02:34:32,370 --> 02:34:35,100
different aspect. And it looks
like a set.

2519
02:34:36,150 --> 02:34:40,020
It does have like a set. I mean,
it looks like a crappy set.

2520
02:34:40,380 --> 02:34:43,890
Yes. Hello, Yahoo. Well, this

2521
02:34:43,890 --> 02:34:46,170
doesn't surprise me with Yahoo
and the lighting all the rest of

2522
02:34:46,170 --> 02:34:49,020
it. I mean, they they've done
video over the years and it's

2523
02:34:49,020 --> 02:34:51,270
always bordering on a sheep
production. They don't

2524
02:34:51,270 --> 02:34:55,050
understand the the expense
mechanism, you know, to do these

2525
02:34:55,050 --> 02:35:00,300
things, right? It costs money.
And let's listen to it. And

2526
02:35:00,300 --> 02:35:02,340
they're so screwed up let me
just just just got nothing to do

2527
02:35:02,340 --> 02:35:04,500
with what we're talking about
but they don't even have an

2528
02:35:04,500 --> 02:35:09,660
embed code. As far as I know,
you can't embed any of these

2529
02:35:09,660 --> 02:35:12,660
videos there yet DAVID POGUE
doing stuff they got Katie doing

2530
02:35:12,660 --> 02:35:14,550
stuff and you can put them on a
blog.

2531
02:35:14,580 --> 02:35:19,680
I am exposing the media has
alright. Yep. Yeah, there's,

2532
02:35:20,040 --> 02:35:26,880
there's no, there is there's no
embed code clearly. So I'm

2533
02:35:26,880 --> 02:35:30,750
sorry. This may be the family
they seem to all be in

2534
02:35:30,750 --> 02:35:37,470
intelligence. I'm looking at a
very strange organization that

2535
02:35:37,470 --> 02:35:42,150
this man was working for is not
NBC, ABC, CBS CNN fi no is not

2536
02:35:42,150 --> 02:35:45,570
any of that. Now is where all
his great we've got some

2537
02:35:45,570 --> 02:35:50,040
pictures of him. Where's his
great who's great award winning

2538
02:35:50,040 --> 02:35:53,700
reporting. Where is all of that?
Oh, yes, I will point out that

2539
02:35:53,700 --> 02:35:57,510
the Peabody award that global
post one was actually from a

2540
02:35:57,510 --> 02:36:02,820
partnership. They produce video
for PBS. They sell their new

2541
02:36:02,820 --> 02:36:10,350
stories to PBS, which really
makes you wonder why was our so

2542
02:36:10,650 --> 02:36:20,070
that I photos falling off the
wall does not happen. And when

2543
02:36:20,070 --> 02:36:23,670
it does, and if you the video is
hard to parse because it's it's

2544
02:36:23,670 --> 02:36:28,350
me with a screen grab reposting
it. Though the daughter her

2545
02:36:28,350 --> 02:36:34,020
mouth flinches for a nanosecond,
but there there is no other

2546
02:36:34,530 --> 02:36:40,260
response from them. So MK Ultra,
perhaps I don't know. But listen

2547
02:36:40,260 --> 02:36:42,360
to the brother prompt her has

2548
02:36:42,360 --> 02:36:47,370
this made you rethink your
commitment to the military? Has

2549
02:36:47,370 --> 02:36:50,880
it shaken your resolve in any
way, Katie or the resolve of

2550
02:36:50,880 --> 02:36:52,830
your brothers to serve their
country, but

2551
02:36:52,830 --> 02:36:55,470
I hear the IFBB it could be with
a delay or I don't know what's

2552
02:36:55,470 --> 02:36:57,780
going on. But I hear noise
probably.

2553
02:36:58,350 --> 02:37:01,920
I'm today I'm just I'm so proud
to be an American.

2554
02:37:01,980 --> 02:37:05,850
Okay, let me understand this.
Why does she want it? Why is

2555
02:37:05,850 --> 02:37:11,850
this her answer? I'm so proud to
be an American, because Obama

2556
02:37:11,850 --> 02:37:14,940
bombed ISIS and my brother's
head got cut off according to

2557
02:37:14,940 --> 02:37:18,120
the narrative. And I'm here in
the studio, and I'm proud to be

2558
02:37:18,120 --> 02:37:18,540
American.

2559
02:37:19,740 --> 02:37:23,400
I'm so thankful to be a part of
this country, and to be a part

2560
02:37:23,400 --> 02:37:27,780
of a group of people that really
have gotten behind us and

2561
02:37:27,780 --> 02:37:31,170
supported us. I don't think
anything is the opposite.

2562
02:37:31,200 --> 02:37:38,610
Who is behind you? Yeah, yeah, I
mean, I think I think jump in

2563
02:37:38,610 --> 02:37:40,380
jump into freezing up.

2564
02:37:40,920 --> 02:37:47,460
epitomized the American
American. Yah, yah, yah,

2565
02:37:47,490 --> 02:37:51,030
yah, yah, MK Ultra. I'm telling
you that I'd hate to be a dick

2566
02:37:51,030 --> 02:37:53,940
about it. But here is another
flub from her where he jumps in

2567
02:37:53,940 --> 02:37:55,170
again, it's believed

2568
02:37:55,170 --> 02:37:59,850
that the despicable person whose
brother is in fact, a British

2569
02:37:59,850 --> 02:38:04,260
citizen, when he learned that
when your family learned that,

2570
02:38:04,800 --> 02:38:06,060
what was your reaction?

2571
02:38:06,449 --> 02:38:11,819
You know, if we really focused
on where he was from, or really,

2572
02:38:12,179 --> 02:38:15,719
you know, that piece of it I
think, we're all just praying

2573
02:38:15,749 --> 02:38:21,029
that he and the other captors
are can be merciful. At some

2574
02:38:21,029 --> 02:38:21,779
point, I don't.

2575
02:38:22,199 --> 02:38:25,679
What Yeah, she's freezing
jumping.

2576
02:38:25,710 --> 02:38:28,710
He being an English citizen has
much to do with it.

2577
02:38:28,740 --> 02:38:33,840
I'm sorry, in English citizen.
That's interesting. So she now

2578
02:38:33,840 --> 02:38:38,250
is talking about and he's she
should say British, but one of

2579
02:38:38,250 --> 02:38:40,590
the captors might have been
English or might have been from

2580
02:38:40,590 --> 02:38:43,590
London to being an English
citizen, as she says English

2581
02:38:43,590 --> 02:38:45,540
citizens as you've been told
something here

2582
02:38:45,600 --> 02:38:48,120
as much. I hope that

2583
02:38:49,800 --> 02:38:51,990
you know, jump in, jump in
there.

2584
02:38:52,289 --> 02:38:55,439
We've been so close for so long.
There are hordes of Europeans,

2585
02:38:55,829 --> 02:39:03,149
their parents that have
children. The fact that

2586
02:39:03,150 --> 02:39:06,780
she's either drugged or
something's very righteous. I

2587
02:39:06,780 --> 02:39:09,780
know it's, I know there are
people who think I'm such an a

2588
02:39:09,810 --> 02:39:13,200
hole for doing this, but I have
to be skeptical about all the

2589
02:39:13,200 --> 02:39:15,060
things I'm reading and seeing.

2590
02:39:15,690 --> 02:39:16,410
No, no, you're

2591
02:39:16,410 --> 02:39:19,800
right on the money on this one.
Catch really, really slip in the

2592
02:39:19,800 --> 02:39:20,700
day almost.

2593
02:39:20,730 --> 02:39:24,060
I have to give a lot of things
to Brian, the gay Crusader who

2594
02:39:24,060 --> 02:39:27,150
is really good stuff you got for
him. Well, I got the video, but

2595
02:39:27,150 --> 02:39:30,660
he's been working on a lot of
the backstory and the especially

2596
02:39:30,660 --> 02:39:35,070
on global posts, which is all in
the show notes at 646. Dot. No

2597
02:39:35,070 --> 02:39:38,070
agenda notes.com or na
shownotes.com. Just one more

2598
02:39:38,070 --> 02:39:40,980
little bit about the
negotiations. I think just one

2599
02:39:40,980 --> 02:39:43,920
last bit is very, very troubling
interview.

2600
02:39:44,130 --> 02:39:47,640
Do you agree with with President
Obama's assertion that they that

2601
02:39:47,640 --> 02:39:52,230
the US will not scale back its
military action following your

2602
02:39:52,230 --> 02:39:53,010
brother's death?

2603
02:39:55,230 --> 02:39:59,370
I do but the thing that I
really, really am frustrated by

2604
02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:02,400
I'm Katie, and I don't even know
if I should really get into

2605
02:40:02,400 --> 02:40:07,380
this. But why not? Why not? But
you can you could accomplish

2606
02:40:07,380 --> 02:40:11,460
both things the United States
could could have done more on

2607
02:40:11,460 --> 02:40:17,280
behalf of the the Western and
American hostages over there and

2608
02:40:17,280 --> 02:40:23,370
still, you know, dealt with with
the broader worldwide issues and

2609
02:40:23,370 --> 02:40:26,640
other nations have have done
that. And that's, that's been a

2610
02:40:26,640 --> 02:40:29,160
source of frustration for me.
And I really, really, really

2611
02:40:29,160 --> 02:40:33,900
hope that really, really, really
in some way Jim's death pushes

2612
02:40:33,900 --> 02:40:37,680
us to take a take another look
at our approach our approach our

2613
02:40:38,490 --> 02:40:42,810
policy to to terrorists and
hostage negotiations and rethink

2614
02:40:42,810 --> 02:40:46,680
that because of the United
States is doing it one way and

2615
02:40:46,680 --> 02:40:49,410
Europe's doing it in another
way. There's no consistent

2616
02:40:49,560 --> 02:40:53,820
there's no consistency here. She
sounds like she's hypnotized

2617
02:40:53,850 --> 02:40:54,450
definition.

2618
02:40:55,710 --> 02:40:58,350
What? Very strict. So

2619
02:40:58,380 --> 02:41:01,080
when you're talking about the
policy, do you mean the policy

2620
02:41:01,080 --> 02:41:07,050
of not not paying ransom or not
exchanging money for for correct

2621
02:41:07,080 --> 02:41:08,700
per capita captives?

2622
02:41:08,910 --> 02:41:14,070
That's correct. That's correct.
David road wrote a good piece

2623
02:41:14,070 --> 02:41:16,470
and I think it was in Reuters or
the Atlantic

2624
02:41:16,500 --> 02:41:19,440
This is now this was to me the
way he says I don't know what

2625
02:41:19,440 --> 02:41:22,890
this guy does. I can't find any
background on him. But it David

2626
02:41:22,890 --> 02:41:26,010
Rohde when the Atlantic be
sounds like a television pundit

2627
02:41:26,010 --> 02:41:30,060
all of a sudden, then David
Rohde is a journalist who was

2628
02:41:30,300 --> 02:41:34,440
also taken hostage. And I think
they negotiated for him, but

2629
02:41:34,770 --> 02:41:37,350
this is so matter the fact that
like, he hangs out with David

2630
02:41:37,350 --> 02:41:39,840
robe, you know, David row
brothers, great. This is how he

2631
02:41:39,840 --> 02:41:44,220
leads talk, man, is a fabulous,
it's a fabulous piece that

2632
02:41:44,370 --> 02:41:46,680
Brooks wrote in the New York
Times, correct?

2633
02:41:46,800 --> 02:41:51,510
That's correct. David Rohde
wrote a good piece. And I think

2634
02:41:51,510 --> 02:41:54,510
it was in Reuters or the
Atlantic on on this very

2635
02:41:54,510 --> 02:42:00,750
subject. And yeah, I mean, it's,
it's, it's frustrating. And I

2636
02:42:00,750 --> 02:42:04,290
understand why we're such a
large nation, it's difficult to

2637
02:42:04,440 --> 02:42:08,220
cover all the bases, but even
take the money aside, there's

2638
02:42:08,250 --> 02:42:12,450
there's things that can be done.
You know, we are sitting on

2639
02:42:14,400 --> 02:42:16,890
prisoners, for example, in
Guantanamo, it doesn't even have

2640
02:42:16,890 --> 02:42:18,450
to be financial.

2641
02:42:18,539 --> 02:42:22,019
And by the way, we actually are
sitting on the prisoners on

2642
02:42:22,019 --> 02:42:26,369
their heads in Guantanamo. So
there's a message.

2643
02:42:27,090 --> 02:42:29,550
Yeah, the message is we got to
get these guys out of

2644
02:42:29,550 --> 02:42:32,850
Guantanamo, as the message seems
as though that was messaging

2645
02:42:32,850 --> 02:42:36,390
going on there to get we can
because we've agreed not to pay

2646
02:42:36,390 --> 02:42:39,840
money, but there's these
prisoners in Guantanamo. And

2647
02:42:39,840 --> 02:42:45,150
this gives us the out that we
need for the Get out of here.

2648
02:42:45,840 --> 02:42:49,590
Yep, that's what I heard. Yeah,
to get these guys out of here,

2649
02:42:49,590 --> 02:42:53,010
because we can't seem to close
get mo but we could have we had

2650
02:42:53,010 --> 02:42:57,450
a more of these. These captors
will give you a three Glock get

2651
02:42:57,450 --> 02:43:00,990
Mo Guys for that guy. Okay,
well, we'd like to get five

2652
02:43:01,860 --> 02:43:05,130
till it's empty until it's all
empty. Yeah. And the thing I

2653
02:43:05,130 --> 02:43:08,520
love is that and of course, I
being from the future, I

2654
02:43:08,520 --> 02:43:11,820
predicted the pope who would be
pope and I called him by name,

2655
02:43:11,820 --> 02:43:14,100
months before he actually became
Pope

2656
02:43:14,970 --> 02:43:18,930
reminded of this, which your
future self said you'd do that.

2657
02:43:19,020 --> 02:43:22,710
And I would actually my future
self was kind of annoyed with my

2658
02:43:22,710 --> 02:43:28,140
current self doing it a lot. But
Pope Francis, he's in on this.

2659
02:43:28,140 --> 02:43:33,840
He's calling the family. Pope
Francis calls them does Pope

2660
02:43:33,840 --> 02:43:36,960
Francis call anybody else? Does
he?

2661
02:43:37,380 --> 02:43:39,870
People drop in left and right
all over the place for all kinds

2662
02:43:39,870 --> 02:43:40,980
of terrible reasons.

2663
02:43:42,060 --> 02:43:44,940
So why all of a sudden, and he
said, Of course, he sent him

2664
02:43:44,940 --> 02:43:48,090
peeping, I'd be sending a
cardinal over and is this pope?

2665
02:43:48,090 --> 02:43:50,850
Is he now in on the is this uh,
is he in on it?

2666
02:43:51,150 --> 02:43:54,990
I have no idea why he why this
is happening. I just we have to

2667
02:43:54,990 --> 02:43:55,740
keep an eye on

2668
02:43:57,060 --> 02:44:00,870
the Pope. The Pope is not just
weird. Not actually it is. I

2669
02:44:00,870 --> 02:44:02,880
said weird. But I'm not gonna
bite you

2670
02:44:02,910 --> 02:44:07,410
honk the horn. He didn't startle
me because it is perhaps weird.

2671
02:44:07,410 --> 02:44:08,640
You have to start on me.

2672
02:44:08,670 --> 02:44:12,180
Sorry. I'll work on it at the
last day and they'll get off of

2673
02:44:12,180 --> 02:44:16,350
this but I think I've kind of
shot my wad for you. Or I hope

2674
02:44:16,350 --> 02:44:17,100
you enjoyed it.

2675
02:44:18,210 --> 02:44:20,760
It was good. I think it's one of
your best analysis. But last

2676
02:44:20,760 --> 02:44:21,120
month,

2677
02:44:21,150 --> 02:44:24,270
here is Dan Rather and I would
say Attention Attention

2678
02:44:24,270 --> 02:44:25,980
everybody attention attention.

2679
02:44:26,580 --> 02:44:31,260
If you want to make a quick $5
million attention.

2680
02:44:33,150 --> 02:44:34,440
Would you do the to please?

2681
02:44:35,610 --> 02:44:36,750
What would you like me to say?

2682
02:44:37,410 --> 02:44:42,330
Attention? Attention attention.
jihadist kidnappers

2683
02:44:42,390 --> 02:44:45,510
attention? jihadist kidnappers
would you like to make a quick

2684
02:44:45,510 --> 02:44:46,830
$5 million?

2685
02:44:47,460 --> 02:44:50,340
Well, there's one thing for
governments such as ours and the

2686
02:44:50,340 --> 02:44:52,650
British government to take a
stand and say we don't pay

2687
02:44:52,650 --> 02:44:59,010
ransom. And by making that read
out front, the government's take

2688
02:44:59,010 --> 02:45:03,120
the view it will just go
coverage of the taking of the

2689
02:45:03,120 --> 02:45:07,680
kidnapping of journalists but as
was stated before to you Brian,

2690
02:45:07,980 --> 02:45:12,360
when it's your son or daughter
when is someone in your

2691
02:45:12,360 --> 02:45:16,260
organization's you've worked
with? It's a whole different

2692
02:45:16,260 --> 02:45:17,100
thing. Doug

2693
02:45:17,970 --> 02:45:19,590
do the do the two began to the
tube

2694
02:45:21,090 --> 02:45:24,870
it's a long no no with a call
out man with the attention to

2695
02:45:24,870 --> 02:45:25,800
the attention

2696
02:45:25,830 --> 02:45:30,060
attention jihadist attention.
Would you like to make a cool $5

2697
02:45:30,090 --> 02:45:30,720
million

2698
02:45:31,560 --> 02:45:35,070
and I can't blame anyone for
trying to ransom a journalist

2699
02:45:35,070 --> 02:45:39,270
out and I would say this if some
member of our Dan Rather reports

2700
02:45:39,300 --> 02:45:43,740
team was kidnapped. I'd be
looking negotiate for ransom.

2701
02:45:44,130 --> 02:45:48,300
And you can criticize that if
you want damage you want but the

2702
02:45:48,300 --> 02:45:51,990
loyalty to our people who work
with us to take these great

2703
02:45:51,990 --> 02:45:55,830
chances. engenders loyalty back

2704
02:46:00,120 --> 02:46:03,420
hello, hey Dan. Hey, Dan. Dan,
this is Dan Rather reports

2705
02:46:03,510 --> 02:46:06,840
Dan Rather reports here I'm an
executive producer Phil

2706
02:46:06,870 --> 02:46:09,870
Hey Phil. friend Dan Rather
reports I was just watching that

2707
02:46:09,870 --> 02:46:14,760
Dan on I think it was a CNN he
was brought in to talk about the

2708
02:46:14,760 --> 02:46:15,570
Foley guy.

2709
02:46:15,870 --> 02:46:20,310
Yeah, he was I quit okay

2710
02:46:25,470 --> 02:46:28,920
the end of the divorce Egg Curry
players handsome Dan

2711
02:46:28,920 --> 02:46:32,970
the ransom man everybody. I'm
gonna show my school by donate

2712
02:46:33,060 --> 02:46:33,960
to no agenda.

2713
02:46:34,019 --> 02:46:37,169
Imagine all the people who could
do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fun

2714
02:46:44,550 --> 02:46:48,810
Yeah, a few people helped us on
show 646 So we want to thank a

2715
02:46:49,470 --> 02:46:57,150
one at a time starting with Dame
Sam. Samantha manor in boxhill

2716
02:46:57,150 --> 02:47:00,720
South Victoria Australia 12345
Sorry for the delay in donations

2717
02:47:00,720 --> 02:47:04,830
guys. The clip of the the end of
club 33 was pretty close to what

2718
02:47:04,830 --> 02:47:08,340
went down not long ago, but at
the house of dubious repute.

2719
02:47:08,640 --> 02:47:11,610
Nearby it still goes on Can I
get a Karma shot for all at the

2720
02:47:11,790 --> 02:47:14,220
roundtable? Regards Dame
Samantha we're gonna

2721
02:47:14,730 --> 02:47:16,980
we're gonna roll it out for
everybody at the end of the

2722
02:47:16,980 --> 02:47:18,390
segment. Absolutely. Damn,
Samantha.

2723
02:47:18,599 --> 02:47:25,829
Matt too much you met to my
Cellie and he got to know you

2724
02:47:25,829 --> 02:47:33,929
back 12345 Chris Daly in
Beaverton, Oregon, and very he

2725
02:47:33,929 --> 02:47:36,479
was very appreciative of the I'm
sorry, your disease.

2726
02:47:37,170 --> 02:47:41,970
Oh, no, mature is the one about
Yeah, as we said, but then you

2727
02:47:41,970 --> 02:47:43,500
said Chris Daly? Yeah.

2728
02:47:43,860 --> 02:47:50,250
Why does daily 123 Sorry,
Beaverton, Oregon. Kathleen

2729
02:47:50,250 --> 02:47:55,860
Hindman in Monaca Pennsylvania
and she did mail in a note which

2730
02:47:55,860 --> 02:47:58,620
I will have to dig up for you
she's got a rough day it's

2731
02:47:58,620 --> 02:48:02,130
got a birthday call out I see is
as her name is highlighted in

2732
02:48:02,130 --> 02:48:02,730
yellow.

2733
02:48:03,090 --> 02:48:08,640
Yes, John's birthday call out
the area she is she wrote a

2734
02:48:08,640 --> 02:48:13,440
handwritten note. This donation
will be a surprise to my husband

2735
02:48:13,440 --> 02:48:17,490
John another surprise. Oh, is
the second one and today's show

2736
02:48:17,490 --> 02:48:22,350
of a wife surprising her husband
he keeps saying that he needs to

2737
02:48:22,350 --> 02:48:25,560
donate again because of the
listens to you guys faithfully

2738
02:48:25,920 --> 02:48:29,760
our anniversary another
anniversary coincidentally it's

2739
02:48:29,760 --> 02:48:32,760
not the same person is it? No, I
don't think so. Our anniversary

2740
02:48:32,760 --> 02:48:36,120
is August 21 22 years so almost
the same number of years we

2741
02:48:36,120 --> 02:48:38,550
should introduce these these two
couples they might be good

2742
02:48:38,550 --> 02:48:43,260
swingers and his birthday is
August 24. So he needs deep

2743
02:48:43,260 --> 02:48:50,520
boning deep bone in his get deep
bone. Karma with the current job

2744
02:48:50,520 --> 02:48:56,790
different show. Different show
is thinking about and would love

2745
02:48:56,790 --> 02:49:00,630
and amazing we put our data to
the list. And

2746
02:49:01,290 --> 02:49:03,300
oh wait, I need my pen again.

2747
02:49:03,390 --> 02:49:06,690
Yeah, use your pen but amazing
for the husband and friends that

2748
02:49:06,690 --> 02:49:10,230
he for the husband and friend
that he is to me. Thanks very

2749
02:49:10,230 --> 02:49:10,680
much.

2750
02:49:10,710 --> 02:49:16,110
I have Kathleen for John. We
have them we have the we have to

2751
02:49:16,710 --> 02:49:20,910
do amazing in there. And he
needs to be d boned apparently.

2752
02:49:22,440 --> 02:49:25,740
Well, that is not one of the
services we provide here. The

2753
02:49:25,740 --> 02:49:27,330
best podcast in the universe we

2754
02:49:27,360 --> 02:49:28,410
boning service.

2755
02:49:29,610 --> 02:49:35,100
We are very sorry we but no, no,
just don't do that. However, we

2756
02:49:35,100 --> 02:49:42,210
think as a very beautiful
gesture and just so lovely for

2757
02:49:42,720 --> 02:49:46,020
spouses to do this for each
other either way it flows, but I

2758
02:49:46,020 --> 02:49:50,070
love that I just love seeing
some pictures. Girls

2759
02:49:50,400 --> 02:49:54,060
in Beverly, Massachusetts, we
have Jai Kumar, who I think is

2760
02:49:54,060 --> 02:49:57,210
in a movie. And he's in the I
had to read his notice since one

2761
02:49:57,210 --> 02:50:00,330
and he says in Episode 643. John
mentioned this pricing the

2762
02:50:00,330 --> 02:50:03,210
amount of Indian culture you
found in Victoria BC This is not

2763
02:50:03,210 --> 02:50:07,260
a new development at all. As an
Indian who was born in Toronto,

2764
02:50:07,260 --> 02:50:09,990
I can tell you that there is a
substantial Indian population in

2765
02:50:09,990 --> 02:50:13,110
the major Canadian metropolitan
areas Toronto, Montreal and

2766
02:50:13,110 --> 02:50:16,350
Vancouver. This is due to the
Canadian government relaxing its

2767
02:50:16,350 --> 02:50:19,560
immigration laws in the 60s 70s
and 80s, leading to a wave of

2768
02:50:19,560 --> 02:50:22,410
immigrants from all over the
world, but especially from Asia,

2769
02:50:22,410 --> 02:50:27,630
the Middle East and Africa.
There weren't a ton of Indians

2770
02:50:27,630 --> 02:50:30,600
when I was a kid there in the
70s, but I was part of the first

2771
02:50:30,600 --> 02:50:33,990
wave of the first generation
kids of immigrants. Now I go

2772
02:50:33,990 --> 02:50:36,600
back to Toronto every few years
and I'm always amazed at how

2773
02:50:36,630 --> 02:50:39,960
multicultural it is plenty of
Indians, Chinese Africans, you

2774
02:50:39,960 --> 02:50:47,280
name it, the in the borough of
Toronto. Anyway, he goes on. He

2775
02:50:47,280 --> 02:50:50,490
says there's a fair amount of
Sri Lankan gang violence in the

2776
02:50:50,490 --> 02:50:55,830
Toronto area, if you can believe
that. And in that infamous

2777
02:50:55,830 --> 02:51:00,840
video, Toronto's fat drunk Mayor
Rob Ford was smoking crack crack

2778
02:51:00,870 --> 02:51:03,030
was Somalian gangbangers.

2779
02:51:04,080 --> 02:51:05,880
Some guys have all the luck.

2780
02:51:06,420 --> 02:51:12,180
There's a lot of action in
Canada, apparently. So he said

2781
02:51:12,180 --> 02:51:15,270
that he's that's a note that's a
handwritten note. Sorry,

2782
02:51:15,270 --> 02:51:19,290
actually hand type Shirzad of
Elwood and Elwood, Illinois 89

2783
02:51:20,550 --> 02:51:27,150
I think we do have to read this
one. I think there's there's a

2784
02:51:27,150 --> 02:51:33,060
lot going on here. We have a
because of this we have a new

2785
02:51:33,060 --> 02:51:40,650
night on the scene as well as
being dedicated for the Okay,

2786
02:51:40,680 --> 02:51:42,480
are you going to hit this or
what do you want me to do it?

2787
02:51:42,780 --> 02:51:45,930
Yeah, I'll tell you we're gonna
do it last the service dog of

2788
02:51:45,930 --> 02:51:48,210
Elwood here a little bit of a
bonus on get back in the donor

2789
02:51:48,210 --> 02:51:51,210
train last year my donations hit
the amount to reach a Baronet. I

2790
02:51:51,210 --> 02:51:53,520
mentioned that in my note
accompany that donation, but it

2791
02:51:53,520 --> 02:51:56,790
got missed in the show reads. So
my title change never took

2792
02:51:56,790 --> 02:52:01,350
effect. It does happen. Sorry.
But it will be corrected. I've

2793
02:52:01,350 --> 02:52:03,120
made some donations in the
meantime, but I'm finally

2794
02:52:03,120 --> 02:52:04,680
getting around to doing
something about this. Since the

2795
02:52:04,680 --> 02:52:07,080
title change has never actually
recorded. I thought about doing

2796
02:52:07,080 --> 02:52:10,200
something a little different.
Tomorrow, August 24. My son Alex

2797
02:52:10,200 --> 02:52:12,990
turns 11 I'd like to pass what
would have been a Baronet

2798
02:52:13,020 --> 02:52:17,220
upgrade to him as a knighthood.
This is acceptable. Since I'm

2799
02:52:17,220 --> 02:52:20,850
known by many of my associates
as Zog, he has adopted the

2800
02:52:20,850 --> 02:52:25,140
moniker a Zog. Since the Hitler
999 is his favorite donation

2801
02:52:25,140 --> 02:52:27,660
amount I'm making this donation
which will carry forward towards

2802
02:52:27,660 --> 02:52:30,810
my Baronet, but I would like to
put the previous donation series

2803
02:52:30,810 --> 02:52:35,700
towards his knighthood as Sir a
Zog son of serves Zog of Elwood

2804
02:52:36,480 --> 02:52:39,540
I promise we will rule the area
south of Chicago with an iron

2805
02:52:39,540 --> 02:52:45,270
fist for generations to come. No
agenda nights and higher in

2806
02:52:45,270 --> 02:52:48,660
peerage as resources permit. So
I'd also like to add him as a

2807
02:52:48,660 --> 02:52:51,570
birthday call out August 24. As
well as making him a night if

2808
02:52:51,570 --> 02:52:55,050
possible, we would preferably
prefer to celebrate with a root

2809
02:52:55,050 --> 02:52:56,670
beer and Legos.

2810
02:52:59,010 --> 02:53:01,710
Now when that comes around,
we'll put route bear Lagos on

2811
02:53:01,710 --> 02:53:06,300
their creative cretin in Los
Angeles, California. $80. But it

2812
02:53:06,300 --> 02:53:10,710
says my name ain't baby. It's
Janet. And then it has dash

2813
02:53:10,740 --> 02:53:11,430
Justin,

2814
02:53:11,460 --> 02:53:16,020
Miss, Miss Justin, if you're
nasty. That's a cultural

2815
02:53:16,020 --> 02:53:17,610
reference. You will not
understand.

2816
02:53:18,630 --> 02:53:21,330
Okay, well explain it to me that
it doesn't matter. It's okay.

2817
02:53:21,930 --> 02:53:26,520
Herb lamb 7777 67 To celebrate
our seventh anniversary coming

2818
02:53:26,520 --> 02:53:31,200
up Sugar Hill, Georgia. And he
thought the last two newsletters

2819
02:53:31,200 --> 02:53:32,190
were hilarious. I should

2820
02:53:32,190 --> 02:53:36,960
read that. Did you see the panda
turned one today? But panda the

2821
02:53:36,960 --> 02:53:40,830
panda in the way is a tremendous
it's not your fault. But I saw

2822
02:53:40,830 --> 02:53:44,790
this this morning in the News
Feed the panda I got it here.

2823
02:53:44,850 --> 02:53:49,950
Washington's giant panda cub
bottle bottle. turned one and

2824
02:53:49,950 --> 02:53:52,950
the picture of him is so cute.

2825
02:53:53,250 --> 02:53:55,260
I use it in the next newsletter.
We he has

2826
02:53:55,260 --> 02:53:57,570
a little he has a little
birthday cake with a big candle

2827
02:53:57,570 --> 02:54:00,780
on it. Which is perfect.

2828
02:54:01,260 --> 02:54:05,250
Todd taubmans Semmens Shaha saqa
seven Sunnyvale California

2829
02:54:05,250 --> 02:54:12,600
Stephen? Krista Fuli staffers
Crisafulli Chris softly

2830
02:54:12,630 --> 02:54:14,070
Steven instead of Stephen

2831
02:54:14,400 --> 02:54:19,800
Stephen Crisafulli in mundane
Western Australia, Sega sevens

2832
02:54:19,800 --> 02:54:23,520
Jason Daniels, Dallas, Texas
Sega seven Sam Leung in Toronto,

2833
02:54:23,520 --> 02:54:27,570
Ontario saqa seven he did send a
note inside and I don't have it

2834
02:54:27,570 --> 02:54:32,640
in front of me. You haven't I
think I do. Richard Riley read

2835
02:54:32,640 --> 02:54:38,070
it after we're done. Richard
Riley Loomis, California. 6660

2836
02:54:38,070 --> 02:54:42,270
is the only one of those Robert
Pender and Pender in Springfield

2837
02:54:42,270 --> 02:54:45,240
Virginia double neck goes on the
dime along with Charles Walters

2838
02:54:45,240 --> 02:54:48,150
and Stromberg, Illinois commonly
comes in with a double neck goes

2839
02:54:48,150 --> 02:54:52,800
on the dime. Harm Veenstra

2840
02:54:53,250 --> 02:54:58,050
Feenstra harm Feenstra in Buruli

2841
02:55:00,149 --> 02:55:04,439
He wants to fuck Karma can
fucking cancer karma. We'll

2842
02:55:04,439 --> 02:55:09,149
throw that in. Charles wha did
him Kevin Sir Kevin Payne in

2843
02:55:09,149 --> 02:55:12,089
Chantilly, Virginia, Maxwell
thin and Seattle, Washington

2844
02:55:12,449 --> 02:55:17,639
56 $50.69 or 5033 respectively
and then $50 donations from an

2845
02:55:17,639 --> 02:55:21,059
anonymous source in Arlington,
Virginia. Hopefully that's in

2846
02:55:21,059 --> 02:55:23,819
Arlington, Virginia. We need
more of those Arlington,

2847
02:55:23,819 --> 02:55:27,419
Virginia donations if you know
what I mean Christie we Michi in

2848
02:55:27,419 --> 02:55:35,309
Dallas, Texas. Macy's below us
the last Loski and Calgary,

2849
02:55:35,369 --> 02:55:39,599
Alberta I won't say Jason
Daniels in Dallas, Texas, T

2850
02:55:39,629 --> 02:55:46,079
Abell in Burghfield, Berkshire.
And finally Brandon, um, make

2851
02:55:46,079 --> 02:55:47,009
Miramar

2852
02:55:47,010 --> 02:55:48,360
and BUM BUM BUM BUM

2853
02:55:48,599 --> 02:55:52,619
Barry Merrick in Tempe, Arizona
and our buddy Benjamin Smith

2854
02:55:52,619 --> 02:55:54,779
over here, I'm waving right now
at the window in Oakland,

2855
02:55:54,779 --> 02:55:58,589
California. And that'll be our
helpers, donors, contributors,

2856
02:55:58,619 --> 02:56:01,799
producers lesser producers all
from show 646.

2857
02:56:02,310 --> 02:56:07,830
Let me here's the notes. Here's
the notes from Sam Luang sir.

2858
02:56:08,700 --> 02:56:11,190
Great Thursday show your
analysis of the Foley in the

2859
02:56:11,190 --> 02:56:15,150
Ferguson situation can only be
described as top notch. However,

2860
02:56:15,900 --> 02:56:19,140
John almost pulled the wool over
our eyes on the etymology of

2861
02:56:19,170 --> 02:56:23,640
penalty and testimony. I'm sure
a astute listeners would already

2862
02:56:23,640 --> 02:56:27,090
have pointed out that the Latin
root for penalty is pure

2863
02:56:27,090 --> 02:56:35,040
analysis for pain, not for
penis. Well, I agree that John's

2864
02:56:35,400 --> 02:56:37,110
etymology was more fun to listen
to.

2865
02:56:39,600 --> 02:56:41,760
I did wake up in the middle of
the night going really?

2866
02:56:44,790 --> 02:56:47,160
Sometimes I wonder if you do
that on purpose or not?

2867
02:56:47,550 --> 02:56:51,330
I know I use range man. What I
thought

2868
02:56:51,540 --> 02:56:56,460
a correction from last Thursday
show,

2869
02:56:56,670 --> 02:56:59,880
sir sports junk? Well, yes,

2870
02:56:59,910 --> 02:57:03,960
he's actually sir Gary Leland.
Well, the night who says knee

2871
02:57:03,960 --> 02:57:08,160
and this does bring up a minor
thing. When you use your pay

2872
02:57:08,160 --> 02:57:14,100
pal, we use the information from
the Pay Pal. Yes, you can put

2873
02:57:14,100 --> 02:57:19,410
something in the notice to a
recipient field. That is usually

2874
02:57:19,410 --> 02:57:22,890
a way to get a message to us.
That is usually the correct way

2875
02:57:22,890 --> 02:57:26,640
to get a message to us.
Interestingly, a lot of people

2876
02:57:26,640 --> 02:57:32,310
don't seem to be able to find
the note field. And there was a

2877
02:57:32,310 --> 02:57:38,010
back office memo that came out
that I don't I don't agree with

2878
02:57:38,010 --> 02:57:42,810
but I think you're kind of all
in on it. Saying that we should

2879
02:57:42,810 --> 02:57:46,080
mention that. Eric the shill is
the person who you need to email

2880
02:57:46,080 --> 02:57:50,670
for all things. Notes and
donations and rings. Not really

2881
02:57:50,670 --> 02:57:54,930
oh no agenda nation.com/rings is
where you can if you deserve one

2882
02:57:54,930 --> 02:57:55,050
Yeah,

2883
02:57:55,050 --> 02:57:58,680
but if you don't get your ring
your email, she'll at no agenda

2884
02:57:58,680 --> 02:58:02,220
nation.com and he will come
because I all we do is send a

2885
02:58:02,250 --> 02:58:04,350
note to him. Right? Well,

2886
02:58:05,820 --> 02:58:12,930
I What I've seen is that I
receive the most of these

2887
02:58:12,930 --> 02:58:18,360
messages. Well for a couple
reasons. One it's so easy to

2888
02:58:18,360 --> 02:58:21,960
remember adam@curry.com It's
just easy. Yeah, well that

2889
02:58:21,960 --> 02:58:24,240
people don't half the people in
the world if you stopped them on

2890
02:58:24,240 --> 02:58:28,320
street How do you spell divorce
Chuck would run How do you spell

2891
02:58:28,320 --> 02:58:33,540
Devine as someone that for for a
habit for a laugh? Um so of

2892
02:58:33,540 --> 02:58:36,330
course you can use John and
curry.com But then there's so

2893
02:58:36,360 --> 02:58:40,350
she'll have no agenda nation.com
is just not sticking. People

2894
02:58:40,350 --> 02:58:41,640
don't listen well.

2895
02:58:41,730 --> 02:58:46,860
But you should get a hold of
Eric Eric is a is a genius at

2896
02:58:46,860 --> 02:58:50,910
customer service. He likes it
he's not like well I don't want

2897
02:58:50,910 --> 02:58:54,960
to disparage he likes it she's
very good. But me me would do

2898
02:58:54,960 --> 02:58:57,780
you know, she would basically
she used to be a waitress that

2899
02:58:57,780 --> 02:59:01,500
used to tell customers to screw
themselves cocktail bar and then

2900
02:59:01,530 --> 02:59:05,130
kick him in the restaurant and
then kick him in the leg. And

2901
02:59:05,160 --> 02:59:08,070
meanwhile Eric is used to work
in customer service in fact this

2902
02:59:08,070 --> 02:59:11,070
one of his first jobs was
selling fish supplies or

2903
02:59:11,070 --> 02:59:16,080
something and local fish guy and
if you fish aquarium place and

2904
02:59:16,080 --> 02:59:18,780
then he worked at some other
customers he's like he likes to

2905
02:59:18,780 --> 02:59:22,530
do it. He mean he didn't while
he likes it who could like that,

2906
02:59:22,530 --> 02:59:25,830
but he he's good at it. And so
just get a hold of him and he'll

2907
02:59:25,830 --> 02:59:28,440
take care of you because we have
one guy going back and forth all

2908
02:59:28,770 --> 02:59:33,180
day won't get me a ring you over
email me. And Eric tells me

2909
02:59:33,180 --> 02:59:37,200
which Mimi is always say I've
emailed the guy, which a lot of

2910
02:59:37,200 --> 02:59:40,350
people never pick up their email
or it gets filtered or they

2911
02:59:40,350 --> 02:59:42,870
don't care or they don't notice
that. I mean, it's like our

2912
02:59:42,870 --> 02:59:47,190
newsletter only a few percentage
get through. So

2913
02:59:47,369 --> 02:59:53,159
yeah, so a couple of things.
While I'm saying this one is I

2914
02:59:53,159 --> 02:59:58,889
don't mind because I I like
email. I'm pretty good at it. I

2915
02:59:58,889 --> 03:00:03,629
forward everything. We are very
loyally on to Eric I run my own

2916
03:00:03,929 --> 03:00:06,719
email server. So pretty much
everything that is supposed to

2917
03:00:06,719 --> 03:00:12,359
come through comes through.
However, it is at your own risk.

2918
03:00:13,049 --> 03:00:16,139
Then I do we have shill and
noise in the nation.com on the

2919
03:00:16,139 --> 03:00:19,379
donation page so that people
understood you say customer

2920
03:00:19,379 --> 03:00:22,109
service can we just have a link
that might be smart to do that?

2921
03:00:23,069 --> 03:00:26,789
And it's okay if you copy John
on it, but here's the things

2922
03:00:26,789 --> 03:00:32,819
will not work. Do not send
anything to John. And these are

2923
03:00:32,819 --> 03:00:36,569
lies you suck at email. I like
you man. You bet you my brother

2924
03:00:36,569 --> 03:00:40,709
in all my emails suck at email.
You just suck at it. Now it's

2925
03:00:40,709 --> 03:00:41,729
okay. It's

2926
03:00:42,689 --> 03:00:44,789
okay. Insult I would I'm taking.

2927
03:00:45,119 --> 03:00:49,619
I am not insulting you at all.
I'm just stating a fact that you

2928
03:00:49,619 --> 03:00:53,099
don't have to be all huffy about
it. I'm huffy. This emails that

2929
03:00:53,099 --> 03:00:59,099
I send you that you don't open.
Oh, here it is. You are great at

2930
03:00:59,099 --> 03:01:02,849
so many things. Like harmonica

2931
03:01:04,260 --> 03:01:05,940
and lies.

2932
03:01:06,330 --> 03:01:08,880
Tube. You're great at that
whiskey tube.

2933
03:01:08,940 --> 03:01:12,090
It tube is good. take credit for
the tube.

2934
03:01:12,480 --> 03:01:16,080
And your LIFO FIFO. You haven't
you have you have said yourself

2935
03:01:16,080 --> 03:01:22,050
your LIFO and I'm not LIFO I
before the show I live for the

2936
03:01:22,050 --> 03:01:25,110
show. I make sure that I've gone
through everything and I forward

2937
03:01:25,110 --> 03:01:28,950
everything and I really try.
Alright are good. You're good.

2938
03:01:28,950 --> 03:01:33,210
You're pretty good at the
checks. But how many times is is

2939
03:01:33,210 --> 03:01:35,790
that the note on the other side
of the room? I mean, it doesn't

2940
03:01:35,790 --> 03:01:39,840
happen. And by the way, we're
not NBC.

2941
03:01:41,130 --> 03:01:42,660
We're a couple of Joe's

2942
03:01:44,190 --> 03:01:48,120
when we were a couple of
analysts with a podcast, we're

2943
03:01:48,120 --> 03:01:50,880
analysts, we're independent
analysts.

2944
03:01:52,080 --> 03:01:54,840
We have a network of independent
mode. Well,

2945
03:01:54,840 --> 03:01:57,690
no, we have a network of
intelligence network. What was

2946
03:01:58,590 --> 03:02:01,980
you wrote it down? See, open
your book

2947
03:02:02,039 --> 03:02:05,609
we have Yeah, we have a network
of intelligence gathering.

2948
03:02:05,640 --> 03:02:08,610
We had a whole sentence and you
said you were write it down and

2949
03:02:08,610 --> 03:02:11,010
it's your job as the archivist
and now you can't find that

2950
03:02:11,010 --> 03:02:11,550
either.

2951
03:02:11,610 --> 03:02:12,660
It's in here. I'm not.

2952
03:02:14,850 --> 03:02:19,020
Anyway, so please, can we let's
put that on the donation page.

2953
03:02:19,050 --> 03:02:21,600
Yeah, there's a debt. You know
what? That genius

2954
03:02:21,630 --> 03:02:24,090
and I'm going to put it in the
show notes. I will put a big

2955
03:02:24,090 --> 03:02:30,000
link which will replicate it'll
say customer service. And Eric,

2956
03:02:30,180 --> 03:02:32,760
do you ask for it? Because you
don't just get

2957
03:02:32,790 --> 03:02:34,680
it any more letters than he
normally gets?

2958
03:02:36,720 --> 03:02:41,040
Okay, well you know my my stance
on email and when people will

2959
03:02:41,040 --> 03:02:41,310
probably

2960
03:02:41,310 --> 03:02:43,800
still get the same which was
easy like you said easy it's

2961
03:02:43,800 --> 03:02:49,590
easy very easy to remember Adam
had curry.com Or why exactly.com

2962
03:02:49,620 --> 03:02:50,880
It's very easy to remember

2963
03:02:50,910 --> 03:02:53,700
that's it john@curry.com works
but don't expect

2964
03:02:53,700 --> 03:02:56,220
that it's not as easy to
remember Adam is the first you

2965
03:02:56,220 --> 03:02:58,590
know it's Adam. Adam and Eve is
the first thing in the Bible

2966
03:02:58,620 --> 03:03:01,710
it's like you but dial you call
me it's always Adam It's I'm at

2967
03:03:01,710 --> 03:03:03,120
the top of the button I list

2968
03:03:03,300 --> 03:03:05,280
yeah you get but but it a lot.

2969
03:03:06,300 --> 03:03:07,740
So don't take it personally.

2970
03:03:07,830 --> 03:03:11,730
I have a letter another letter
says respond this segment from

2971
03:03:11,730 --> 03:03:17,190
Harvey Haller Hulu or Hulu or
something? I'm not sure but he's

2972
03:03:17,880 --> 03:03:21,360
he's from Kitchener, Ontario
again, Ontario again for about

2973
03:03:21,360 --> 03:03:23,850
the Indians. I just want to get
this out of the way. Did you

2974
03:03:23,850 --> 03:03:26,850
want to chip in the email from
that guy? Karthik was spot on

2975
03:03:26,850 --> 03:03:30,030
Brampton and Syria by no means
the only Punjabi heavy

2976
03:03:30,030 --> 03:03:33,630
communities. But they are
definitely two big ones. One

2977
03:03:33,630 --> 03:03:37,140
correction about that email
before I before that, I believe

2978
03:03:37,140 --> 03:03:41,130
that to be true to awkwardly
worded about the demand for

2979
03:03:41,130 --> 03:03:44,070
physicians way back in the day
and going through Canada was the

2980
03:03:44,070 --> 03:03:47,760
easy way to get to the US.
However, today, the reverse is

2981
03:03:47,760 --> 03:03:50,880
actually easier. I'm a medical
student who left home to go to

2982
03:03:50,880 --> 03:03:53,460
med school and most of my
Canadian classmates and there

2983
03:03:53,460 --> 03:03:55,890
are a lot of us many Canadians
actually leave the country to go

2984
03:03:55,890 --> 03:03:59,400
to med school. Aim for the US to
do their residency is because

2985
03:03:59,400 --> 03:04:02,610
the US is actually less
competitive than Canada, when it

2986
03:04:02,610 --> 03:04:05,610
comes to residency sponsor
foreign graduates. Even if

2987
03:04:05,610 --> 03:04:09,180
you're a Canadian studying
abroad, like myself, what you

2988
03:04:09,180 --> 03:04:13,560
guys discuss may have been the
case many years ago, but just

2989
03:04:13,620 --> 03:04:17,250
thought I'd drop a line about
the current state of affairs.

2990
03:04:17,279 --> 03:04:21,419
Well, thank you for that and
still receive no donations from

2991
03:04:21,419 --> 03:04:22,139
Indians.

2992
03:04:23,580 --> 03:04:28,680
Yes, this is true. And I have
some clips that I got in advance

2993
03:04:28,680 --> 03:04:29,550
talking about this.

2994
03:04:29,820 --> 03:04:33,750
John John, I've got birthdays to
do I have nice things to do.

2995
03:04:33,960 --> 03:04:38,490
Well, let me just read one more
No, go go on. And I have a time.

2996
03:04:39,570 --> 03:04:42,660
I have the final I have the
final sequence of karma of

2997
03:04:42,660 --> 03:04:44,040
course. Bingo boom.

2998
03:04:50,730 --> 03:04:55,590
Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's
vote for Joe.

2999
03:04:59,100 --> 03:05:01,800
We will be doing now. To show on
Monday, it'll be interesting to

3000
03:05:01,800 --> 03:05:04,500
see if I make it at all because
of course you happen to be doing

3001
03:05:04,500 --> 03:05:06,990
a show on Monday. What I said
I'm flying to Amsterdam on

3002
03:05:06,990 --> 03:05:11,610
Monday the show on Thursday. I'm
sorry. I'm confused. I'm worried

3003
03:05:11,610 --> 03:05:14,670
because I'm supposed to fly
tomorrow and we have the ash

3004
03:05:14,670 --> 03:05:18,420
crisis coming up again. So who
knows what's going to happen? So

3005
03:05:18,420 --> 03:05:22,830
support aso.org/and a

3006
03:05:30,210 --> 03:05:33,450
birthday celebration today the
den man big supporter and fan of

3007
03:05:33,450 --> 03:05:36,210
the program and of course he has
his own podcast and blog you

3008
03:05:36,210 --> 03:05:39,930
might want to check out Jim
Boris turned 53 on the 22nd

3009
03:05:40,110 --> 03:05:42,540
Birthday to you sir Zaga
Bellwoods is Happy Birthday his

3010
03:05:42,540 --> 03:05:47,040
son, Alex, who will be knighted
in a moment he turns 11. Today,

3011
03:05:47,280 --> 03:05:51,360
Marvin Lee Breton says hello
Peggy baby her birthday today

3012
03:05:51,360 --> 03:05:53,430
and all that other stuff as we
hooked him up with Kathleen

3013
03:05:53,430 --> 03:05:57,780
Hillman Hyneman Kinnaman Hyneman
Lewis congratulate her husband

3014
03:05:57,780 --> 03:06:02,760
John amazing she says also
celebrating today and we're

3015
03:06:02,760 --> 03:06:05,460
gonna see we can hook those two
up happy birthday from all your

3016
03:06:05,460 --> 03:06:08,610
friends and the entire staff
management and back office and

3017
03:06:08,610 --> 03:06:15,210
customer service at the best
podcast in the universe. Then we

3018
03:06:15,210 --> 03:06:19,890
have Jim Bob with 123 We have
three nice things today my

3019
03:06:19,890 --> 03:06:23,850
friend three nice things, but
let me grab my sword which I use

3020
03:06:23,850 --> 03:06:30,000
my right hand for nevertheless
left ever. Um,

3021
03:06:30,030 --> 03:06:34,830
hold on this thing stuck stuck?
Your gums? It's given wait.

3022
03:06:35,910 --> 03:06:41,370
Finally. All right, Jim. Jim
Bharath stepped forward. Ed

3023
03:06:41,370 --> 03:06:47,010
Ferro, come on down and Alexon.
Would you please send? Well,

3024
03:06:47,190 --> 03:06:50,910
here he is. Here's your news.
Your son Alex a good gentleman.

3025
03:06:50,910 --> 03:06:52,860
All three of you have
contributed about podcasting

3026
03:06:52,860 --> 03:06:54,690
universe in the appropriate
amount and therefore we bring

3027
03:06:54,690 --> 03:06:56,670
you into the table of the
Knights of the Danes and

3028
03:06:56,670 --> 03:07:03,030
pronounce the SIR Jaco sir Ed
Farrell, and Sir Azar, the son

3029
03:07:03,030 --> 03:07:07,620
of Sir Zaga bellawood. Gents for
you. Repair Legos as crema bear

3030
03:07:07,620 --> 03:07:10,980
feelings, girlfriend experience
and good and bourbon porn stars

3031
03:07:10,980 --> 03:07:13,920
and pot I'm running out what's
bad signs and perky breasts?

3032
03:07:15,150 --> 03:07:17,430
Bong it's a bourbon sparkling
cider and escorts and mutton and

3033
03:07:17,430 --> 03:07:19,200
meat. Of course, we have the
hookers and blow right boys and

3034
03:07:19,200 --> 03:07:19,650
Chardonnay. It's

3035
03:07:19,650 --> 03:07:21,900
all there for you was a new one
at the end.

3036
03:07:22,500 --> 03:07:26,460
And if you go to I had root beer
in Lagos and if you go to no

3037
03:07:26,460 --> 03:07:29,970
agenda nation.com/rings That's
where you can submit all your

3038
03:07:29,970 --> 03:07:33,690
information and your ring will
come to you post haste, courtesy

3039
03:07:33,690 --> 03:07:38,790
of the back office and the best
podcast in the universe. Good

3040
03:07:38,790 --> 03:07:42,960
good. Good. We are it's I'm
sorry, I took up a lot of time.

3041
03:07:43,320 --> 03:07:46,110
You had too many you had three
deconstructions today instead of

3042
03:07:46,110 --> 03:07:47,010
the normal one,

3043
03:07:47,040 --> 03:07:49,290
but Well, I only had two what
were the three?

3044
03:07:50,490 --> 03:07:51,330
Maybe you didn't

3045
03:07:53,520 --> 03:07:57,420
it's felt like three? Oh no, I
had self moral licensing.

3046
03:07:58,350 --> 03:08:01,590
I had a long one that was long
and the other one was long too.

3047
03:08:01,590 --> 03:08:02,340
They're both long.

3048
03:08:02,940 --> 03:08:05,550
You know what that's what we can
do but I know you

3049
03:08:05,670 --> 03:08:09,090
didn't get to do my boy I got
another Ebola report and you got

3050
03:08:09,090 --> 03:08:11,970
mac and cheese. We can't do it
we'll do the Ebola is gonna get

3051
03:08:11,970 --> 03:08:15,810
pushed off because it's not that
topical. And it's I know no

3052
03:08:15,810 --> 03:08:19,230
one's going to come up with this
so I'm gonna hold it in abeyance

3053
03:08:19,230 --> 03:08:22,560
and it's also long it's going to
be long because of the length of

3054
03:08:22,560 --> 03:08:26,520
these clips. But mac and cheese
tomorrow's mac and cheese day

3055
03:08:26,520 --> 03:08:29,580
and everyone wants to hear my
analysis no analysis of the Mac

3056
03:08:29,580 --> 03:08:31,590
and Cheese Day I just have two
clips.

3057
03:08:33,450 --> 03:08:34,620
Very excited about it.

3058
03:08:34,680 --> 03:08:37,470
I have three clips. Well, I mean
I did have good clips already

3059
03:08:37,470 --> 03:08:40,920
but I thought that this was
interesting. This is a mac and

3060
03:08:40,920 --> 03:08:43,350
cheese and other there's a lot
of recipes online for mac and

3061
03:08:43,350 --> 03:08:45,900
cheese. Nobody knows how to cook
online I've come to the

3062
03:08:45,900 --> 03:08:48,720
conclusion that all these people
that cook show you that could

3063
03:08:48,720 --> 03:08:50,910
have their little cooking shows
that show how to cook they can't

3064
03:08:50,910 --> 03:08:54,870
cook. None of these people can
cook but they all think they can

3065
03:08:54,870 --> 03:08:59,040
and they decided to put up a
YouTube video so let's play mac

3066
03:08:59,040 --> 03:09:01,890
and cheese oddball cheese WTF
clip?

3067
03:09:02,220 --> 03:09:05,550
Okay, you guys to me Nothing
says American like mac and

3068
03:09:05,550 --> 03:09:09,660
cheese the classic American dish
with the classic old school

3069
03:09:09,660 --> 03:09:11,610
cheese Wisconsin Grier.

3070
03:09:12,240 --> 03:09:15,600
What? No, it's supposed to be
Velveeta

3071
03:09:15,690 --> 03:09:20,010
was supposed to be cheap cheddar
but it's a classic, classic

3072
03:09:20,010 --> 03:09:24,870
classic and then you have graer
as the cheese this isn't mac and

3073
03:09:24,870 --> 03:09:25,560
cheese.

3074
03:09:26,700 --> 03:09:29,760
That guy was Hold on a sec Let
me listen to the recipe again.

3075
03:09:30,660 --> 03:09:36,000
You slaves can get Mr. Mac and
cheese macaroni and cheese

3076
03:09:36,180 --> 03:09:40,230
shatter melted together mac and
cheese mac and cheese mac and

3077
03:09:40,230 --> 03:09:40,590
cheese.

3078
03:09:41,280 --> 03:09:45,450
Cheap macaroni and cheese
cheddar melted together. That's

3079
03:09:45,450 --> 03:09:45,690
it.

3080
03:09:45,720 --> 03:09:48,180
That's all you need. You put a
little butter if you want you

3081
03:09:48,180 --> 03:09:51,240
can put some cream if you want
to pad it. But no, that's all

3082
03:09:51,270 --> 03:09:53,130
there is to it. You know it's
not a bunch of complex

3083
03:09:53,160 --> 03:09:57,180
complexity, play Mac and Qi or
the Mac amazing clip and you'll

3084
03:09:57,180 --> 03:10:01,380
see what I'm talking about. Hey
guys, It's

3085
03:10:01,380 --> 03:10:05,340
Ingrid and today I'm really
excited because guess what we're

3086
03:10:05,340 --> 03:10:09,960
making bacon macaroni and cheese
and it's gonna be awesome.

3087
03:10:10,140 --> 03:10:13,800
Macaroni and cheese is one of my
favorites. It's a classic and

3088
03:10:13,800 --> 03:10:17,370
we're going to be putting a spin
on it today because this recipe

3089
03:10:17,370 --> 03:10:21,780
does not require you to pre cook
the pasta which is amazing. Oh

3090
03:10:21,780 --> 03:10:22,560
my god that

3091
03:10:26,310 --> 03:10:29,160
you don't have to cook the pasta
you just crunches crunchy.

3092
03:10:31,590 --> 03:10:38,760
No. I rescind. I repent. This is
a great segment. This is good. I

3093
03:10:38,760 --> 03:10:44,430
didn't I didn't realize you were
grabbing clips of morons who are

3094
03:10:44,430 --> 03:10:47,010
making posts think they know
what they're doing. I in

3095
03:10:47,010 --> 03:10:51,330
preparation for the show.
Someone had sent me if you can

3096
03:10:51,330 --> 03:10:56,520
recall a while back I'm talking
a lot previous house last year.

3097
03:10:56,820 --> 03:11:00,960
A big time full on box of Kraft
mac and cheese instant mac and

3098
03:11:00,960 --> 03:11:05,070
cheese. Yeah. That's a big blue
box. And there's 800 packets in

3099
03:11:05,070 --> 03:11:11,070
there. And with Miss mickey out
of town, and I was just doing

3100
03:11:11,070 --> 03:11:13,200
stuff I'm I'm going to make one
of these.

3101
03:11:14,190 --> 03:11:17,520
Oh, you should you should you'll
be up so I did

3102
03:11:19,020 --> 03:11:21,750
want to tell you about the
experience. Yeah, I want to hear

3103
03:11:21,780 --> 03:11:25,380
there's three steps on the on
the packaging. And there's the

3104
03:11:25,380 --> 03:11:30,300
package package is a cellophane
wrapped. And then one part is

3105
03:11:30,300 --> 03:11:35,850
the what I think is macaroni
it's hardened plastic look

3106
03:11:35,850 --> 03:11:39,570
alikes. Classified elbows,
elbows, right. And then there's

3107
03:11:39,570 --> 03:11:43,740
another packet which has the
instructions on it. And then as

3108
03:11:43,740 --> 03:11:46,830
a packet as you know, one of the
silver foil and on the inside

3109
03:11:46,830 --> 03:11:50,760
just writing on the outside of
flavorings it well. No, that is

3110
03:11:50,760 --> 03:11:54,270
the cheese mix. Oh, okay, the
whole thing. And the

3111
03:11:54,270 --> 03:11:58,260
instructions say first you take
the three quarters of a cup of

3112
03:11:58,260 --> 03:12:02,790
water and add that to the to
these things that are apparently

3113
03:12:02,790 --> 03:12:07,080
macaroni. Yes. And you put that
in the microwave for three and a

3114
03:12:07,080 --> 03:12:10,320
half to four minutes. Okay? Or
until

3115
03:12:10,380 --> 03:12:13,320
the macro can boil this on a
stovetop because I don't eat

3116
03:12:13,350 --> 03:12:13,890
Mike. I'm

3117
03:12:13,890 --> 03:12:17,760
giving you the instructions. I
followed. I'm a rule follower.

3118
03:12:17,880 --> 03:12:22,110
Yeah. I after three minutes, I
checked and I felt they were al

3119
03:12:22,110 --> 03:12:27,450
denty which are those away. I
like my mac and cheese. And then

3120
03:12:27,450 --> 03:12:31,170
it says do not if there's excess
water do not add big letters. Do

3121
03:12:31,170 --> 03:12:35,670
not remove the excess water. You
will need this to make the

3122
03:12:36,390 --> 03:12:39,600
cheese. Yes, yes, that would
make sense. So you

3123
03:12:39,600 --> 03:12:43,680
pour the packet in. Then then
you stir stir stir and

3124
03:12:43,890 --> 03:12:53,130
miraculously, voila. I actually
say Voila, mac and cheese now we

3125
03:12:53,130 --> 03:12:56,100
had a couple guys who had to
repaint something in the house.

3126
03:12:56,340 --> 03:13:00,450
The landlord had sent him by and
they looked at me as I'm doing

3127
03:13:00,450 --> 03:13:02,910
this. I'm finishing this up but
they're walking Mexican guys.

3128
03:13:03,030 --> 03:13:06,120
They looked at me and went Are
you fucking crazy? Are you going

3129
03:13:06,120 --> 03:13:07,020
to eat that shit?

3130
03:13:08,400 --> 03:13:11,970
To Mexican workers? Yeah. said
this to you. Yes.

3131
03:13:12,000 --> 03:13:14,820
They said you don't eat that
man. And and of course I did

3132
03:13:14,820 --> 03:13:20,910
because I do not eat that. Man
you okay? Hey, man, we take you

3133
03:13:20,910 --> 03:13:24,690
out for some tacos. Don't eat a
man don't eat that will pay. And

3134
03:13:24,690 --> 03:13:31,530
I ate it. Yes. And it had such a
chemical taste. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

3135
03:13:31,980 --> 03:13:37,410
And when you finish it, and the
bowl will not clean. Oh, it's

3136
03:13:37,410 --> 03:13:40,050
like a glue. And there's more
like a paint

3137
03:13:40,830 --> 03:13:42,810
like a paint you ate paint pink.

3138
03:13:43,530 --> 03:13:46,200
So that was it. This is not a
good this is not an outstanding

3139
03:13:46,200 --> 03:13:49,290
product. It is not to be
consumed by human beings or

3140
03:13:49,290 --> 03:13:50,760
anything with a heart.

3141
03:13:53,490 --> 03:13:55,680
Yeah, it'll probably take you a
month to get that out of your

3142
03:13:55,680 --> 03:13:58,890
system. I got an email a lot of
wine that'll help

3143
03:13:58,920 --> 03:14:02,340
I got an email about your recall
your question of the mac and

3144
03:14:02,340 --> 03:14:06,600
cheese for Thanksgiving. Yeah,
this has now been confirmed by

3145
03:14:06,600 --> 03:14:10,890
multiple sources that this is an
is indeed a black thing. This is

3146
03:14:10,890 --> 03:14:14,220
where it started. But this is
from John Calvin Jones, who I've

3147
03:14:14,220 --> 03:14:18,450
been conversing with for a long
time. Had no idea what color

3148
03:14:18,450 --> 03:14:21,960
skin is, was it will be and I
never cared. Adam just finished

3149
03:14:21,960 --> 03:14:26,430
listening to any show. 645 my
father born in 1928 always made

3150
03:14:26,430 --> 03:14:28,890
macaroni and cheese for
Thanksgiving from scratch. He

3151
03:14:28,890 --> 03:14:33,840
used sharp cheddar only no
Velveeta that is not cheese. I

3152
03:14:33,840 --> 03:14:36,270
did not think that it was a
depression issue. His father was

3153
03:14:36,270 --> 03:14:38,820
a professor and a college
president. But I imagined that

3154
03:14:38,820 --> 03:14:41,790
was a standard for Sunday's when
my father's mother Vivian and

3155
03:14:41,790 --> 03:14:44,160
five of her siblings and the
children would meet and have a

3156
03:14:44,160 --> 03:14:47,130
potluck after church, I'm
guessing was a good dish for one

3157
03:14:47,130 --> 03:14:49,590
of the aunties to give the chick
kids and a cheap way to feed

3158
03:14:49,590 --> 03:14:53,970
about eight instead of baking
another ham or chicken. And then

3159
03:14:54,990 --> 03:14:57,810
I said yes, we're not answering
the question. Are you black? And

3160
03:14:57,810 --> 03:15:00,300
he says yes, sorry if my
references were too subtle. My

3161
03:15:00,300 --> 03:15:03,120
father's maternal grandfather
was born a slave in the early

3162
03:15:03,120 --> 03:15:06,330
1860s. And in the United States,
they were in South Carolina,

3163
03:15:06,330 --> 03:15:09,390
North Carolina by the 1950s
migrated to New York City Gary,

3164
03:15:09,390 --> 03:15:12,870
Indiana and Los Angeles. So yes,
we are and my father's cooking

3165
03:15:12,870 --> 03:15:17,010
was southern soul food. And yes,
this is a this is a black thing

3166
03:15:17,010 --> 03:15:21,210
for Thanksgiving and but not
cook shit. It is done with great

3167
03:15:21,210 --> 03:15:24,840
pride and secret recipes, family
recipes that date back to the

3168
03:15:24,840 --> 03:15:25,890
days of slavery.

3169
03:15:27,480 --> 03:15:28,920
Well, okay.

3170
03:15:29,940 --> 03:15:32,190
And I'm going to be asking my
black friends and asked I would

3171
03:15:32,190 --> 03:15:34,800
like to ask him to give us the
seasoning. The secret

3172
03:15:34,800 --> 03:15:37,530
recipe. Oh, yeah. Not gonna
hurt.

3173
03:15:38,910 --> 03:15:41,730
There are people that like mac
and cheese. Apparently,

3174
03:15:42,060 --> 03:15:45,150
a lot of them are black. Not not
that not for them craft.

3175
03:15:45,270 --> 03:15:48,600
No, no, no, that's never gonna
be good. One more clip here from

3176
03:15:48,690 --> 03:15:50,850
but there's the second half of
the clip with his dingbat

3177
03:15:50,850 --> 03:15:52,170
chicken so we might as well play
it.

3178
03:15:52,200 --> 03:15:56,250
So I have the ingredients here.
We are going to be using some

3179
03:15:56,250 --> 03:16:01,890
milk, cottage cheese, grated
cheddar cheese, brown rice

3180
03:16:01,890 --> 03:16:05,370
pasta, but feel free to use
whatever pasta you'd like. I

3181
03:16:05,370 --> 03:16:08,910
just really like brown rice
pasta, some cayenne pepper,

3182
03:16:09,240 --> 03:16:15,810
regular salt and pepper, ground
mustard, nutmeg, and some

3183
03:16:15,810 --> 03:16:20,040
butter. And of course the star
bake,

3184
03:16:21,030 --> 03:16:23,160
bake, bake

3185
03:16:25,440 --> 03:16:28,830
Yeah, it was tomorrow's mac and
cheese day you can go online go

3186
03:16:28,830 --> 03:16:31,440
to the YouTube and you can find
a million recipes for mac and

3187
03:16:31,440 --> 03:16:34,530
cheese all of them are just
flaky and they're overseas and

3188
03:16:34,590 --> 03:16:37,290
they're trying to make something
fancy I wish it should be cheap

3189
03:16:37,290 --> 03:16:45,480
cheddar and elbow macaroni
that's that mac and cheese mac

3190
03:16:45,480 --> 03:16:51,090
and cheese by iron Rand I don't
really have any more.

3191
03:16:51,720 --> 03:16:54,390
I have a clip to kind of play us
out because I thought it was

3192
03:16:54,390 --> 03:16:58,680
funny. Yeah don't have a play
out clip and have the the ash

3193
03:16:58,800 --> 03:16:59,700
crisis.

3194
03:17:00,300 --> 03:17:02,670
Oh yeah, this is gonna be fun
for you. Now you were Pooh

3195
03:17:02,670 --> 03:17:07,260
poohing this in the last show. I
was I was a bull crap this bull

3196
03:17:07,260 --> 03:17:10,140
crap and you're just wishful
thinking Pooh poohing it the way

3197
03:17:10,140 --> 03:17:10,920
I see it now. It's

3198
03:17:10,920 --> 03:17:11,760
still bull crap.

3199
03:17:11,790 --> 03:17:13,770
You're gonna be stuck.

3200
03:17:13,800 --> 03:17:14,970
It's still bull crap.

3201
03:17:15,000 --> 03:17:15,990
You'll see. No,

3202
03:17:16,020 --> 03:17:18,870
I'm not saying that. I won't be
stuck. But it's bull crap

3203
03:17:18,870 --> 03:17:21,390
because there's nothing there's
nothing exploding it's you know,

3204
03:17:21,390 --> 03:17:21,990
scientists

3205
03:17:21,990 --> 03:17:25,080
from the Icelandic Met Office
have been carefully monitoring

3206
03:17:25,080 --> 03:17:27,510
the volcano bada boom, on the
air.

3207
03:17:27,840 --> 03:17:31,860
The Boombah Boombah the volcano
What is this wall Kinos name?

3208
03:17:32,610 --> 03:17:33,660
The booga booga.

3209
03:17:36,690 --> 03:17:37,560
booga booga

3210
03:17:37,590 --> 03:17:40,800
scientists from the Icelandic
Met Office have been carefully

3211
03:17:40,800 --> 03:17:44,250
monitoring the volcano bada boom
bada from the air building a

3212
03:17:44,250 --> 03:17:47,880
bunker the ice bada boom dango
Boom shaka laka. Boom. The

3213
03:17:47,880 --> 03:17:52,410
glazier may look deceptively
calm. But beneath the glass

3214
03:17:52,410 --> 03:17:56,310
here, the earth is moving. And
the lava has started erupting.

3215
03:17:56,400 --> 03:18:00,360
So this is exactly what our
producer said in Boca you Oh,

3216
03:18:00,360 --> 03:18:04,920
you can't see it, but it's
happening. I have thoughts about

3217
03:18:04,920 --> 03:18:05,400
this.

3218
03:18:05,519 --> 03:18:10,469
If the lava reaches the surface,
it can send huge ash flows to

3219
03:18:10,469 --> 03:18:14,759
the atmosphere as clouds.
Icelanders issued an alert for

3220
03:18:14,759 --> 03:18:19,079
the aviation industry. Current
aviation color code of butter

3221
03:18:19,079 --> 03:18:20,939
booga is read the current

3222
03:18:20,940 --> 03:18:24,510
aviation cloud for bada boom,
Bada is read. I don't need to

3223
03:18:24,510 --> 03:18:28,050
know any more. I'm frightened to
death. Yeah, this should be this

3224
03:18:28,050 --> 03:18:33,090
is what is happening. This needs
to be seen in relation to

3225
03:18:33,840 --> 03:18:38,160
Ukraine and Russia and jets
flying around. This is a

3226
03:18:38,190 --> 03:18:41,700
takeover. There is a need and
necessity for control of

3227
03:18:41,700 --> 03:18:46,830
European airspace. We don't know
why yet. We don't know why. But

3228
03:18:46,830 --> 03:18:49,650
this is being used just like the
last time.

3229
03:18:50,250 --> 03:18:52,680
Well then I do have a clip to
take us out on something a

3230
03:18:52,680 --> 03:18:53,760
little lighter.

3231
03:18:54,960 --> 03:18:56,550
But you're not flying tomorrow.

3232
03:18:56,610 --> 03:18:59,880
It's a 15 second commercial
though with Johnny Bench

3233
03:19:00,060 --> 03:19:02,970
promoting blue emu and I've
never heard a commercial in my

3234
03:19:02,970 --> 03:19:04,920
life with this particular
kicker.

3235
03:19:05,699 --> 03:19:08,909
I've used blue emu for over 10
years now. It's made with really

3236
03:19:08,909 --> 03:19:11,909
mula it's a non greasy deep
penetrating formula that works

3237
03:19:11,909 --> 03:19:15,209
itself down into my joy and for
all those hard to reach aches

3238
03:19:15,209 --> 03:19:18,539
and pains now there's blue emu
pain relief spray take it for me

3239
03:19:18,539 --> 03:19:20,609
it works fast and you won't
stink

3240
03:19:24,450 --> 03:19:26,010
you know I

3241
03:19:26,910 --> 03:19:31,410
can't even say it in the show.
Best podcast in the universe

3242
03:19:31,950 --> 03:19:32,760
roams.

3243
03:19:39,690 --> 03:19:42,270
Advertising yard me.

3244
03:19:43,170 --> 03:19:45,840
Oh, my joins her I need some
bluey.

3245
03:19:47,340 --> 03:19:51,000
Do you think that there's other
forms of blue emu?

3246
03:19:51,330 --> 03:19:54,390
I assume that some of them make
you stink and this was the this

3247
03:19:54,390 --> 03:19:58,230
was the high point. learn this
lesson.

3248
03:20:01,350 --> 03:20:06,000
Ah, thank you. That was very
funny.

3249
03:20:07,440 --> 03:20:08,850
It worked for me good. We're
done.

3250
03:20:09,300 --> 03:20:11,040
We're done. I don't have to get
all annoyed.

3251
03:20:11,070 --> 03:20:12,480
We got our laugh in and

3252
03:20:12,480 --> 03:20:14,790
then we did well, we have
nothing but laughs

3253
03:20:16,199 --> 03:20:17,519
The whole show was a comedy
show.

3254
03:20:21,360 --> 03:20:28,830
If you notice, I do put the
comedy tag in iTunes. Somehow

3255
03:20:28,830 --> 03:20:33,060
we're not really receiving the
accolades we deserve. But okay,

3256
03:20:33,240 --> 03:20:36,810
it's what it is. Thank you all
very much for

3257
03:20:37,140 --> 03:20:38,970
those guys laugh at beheadings

3258
03:20:39,870 --> 03:20:44,100
DO NOT FUNNY eight holes or
whatever people are horrible

3259
03:20:44,100 --> 03:20:50,190
people. Alright, thank you all
very much for contributing Miss

3260
03:20:50,190 --> 03:20:54,450
mica and I flying to the
lowlands of Amsterdam, where she

3261
03:20:54,450 --> 03:20:55,560
will ask the question

3262
03:20:57,060 --> 03:20:59,970
why am I married to this guy?
And we are good.

3263
03:20:59,970 --> 03:21:05,040
We are. We are the Laurel and
Hardy of podcasting. Coming to

3264
03:21:05,040 --> 03:21:08,970
you from FEMA Region six in the
capital of the drone Star State

3265
03:21:08,970 --> 03:21:11,490
in the morning everybody. My
name is Adam curry.

3266
03:21:11,699 --> 03:21:15,059
I'm from Northern Silicon Valley
where it's foggy again, which is

3267
03:21:15,059 --> 03:21:17,879
California weather by the way,
especially up here I'm John C.

3268
03:21:17,879 --> 03:21:18,809
Dvorak and we'll be back

3269
03:21:18,810 --> 03:21:23,760
on Thursday if everything goes
according to plan right here on

3270
03:21:23,760 --> 03:21:24,540
no agenda.

3271
03:21:43,770 --> 03:21:47,490
I'm Joe Biden and thank you for
taking the time to listen. Adios

3272
03:21:47,550 --> 03:21:55,680
MoPhO to vorak.org/n A