What's the worst that could happen for making these choices?
Adam curry, John C. Dvorak, Sunday October 12 2014 and time
for your getting donation media assassination episode 660 This
is no agenda bleeding from the upper left but it's not Ebola in
FEMA Region six in the indispensable nation the capital
the drones are state in the morning everybody I'm Adam curry
and from Northern Silicon Valley where I shave after the show I'm
Johnson kill
really I didn't know there was protocol but you're probably
right it probably much smarter to do
you don't want to bleed during the show. Yeah, it's
hard to talk and you know and and dabbled in the wound.
I use a straight straight edge
not even a safety use a straight straight razor exploit
this drops
the leather Yeah, somehow I don't I don't believe that.
So it's what's this about? You cut yourself shaving? Well, as
you said, offhandedly, casually you're growing a beard.
This was a request. By who by Ms. Mickey. That's curious.
Yeah, I thought so too. Actually, I
there's a big trend right now that I've noticed and it's
cropping up amongst the douchebags. Amongst the the
genders. Yeah, the hipster hipsters that grow beard hair,
at least or beard. If you can't, there's actually more in and
than that close crop thing. Yeah. And even Jolie Odell
has a beard.
Hey, oh, that's possible. Sorry. Anyway, she had her husband her
year because she likes she made a big stink about it. I share
her and she did on the Twitch show that she only likes men
with facial hair. And he Aaron accidentally or I didn't
accident, but he cut it off. Cut his beard off because he I don't
think he likes having a beard. And she was hurt. Get him?
Well, Mickey, welcome. My beard, of course, is is grayish because
I'm gray. Although I'm in transition on the hair
color. It gets some of the DEB No, no, no, the whole point.
The whole point is she thinks is really masculine and manly. And
she really likes it and
has Hemingway.
Exactly. That's right. The old man in the sea. The old man in
the podcast. Man in the podcast, Ernest Hemingway. No, but she
she really likes it. And I said, and I was confused, really? And
so I got one of those trimmers. And I don't know if I like it
that much. It's it's,
well, why wouldn't you difference? Does it make what
you think? Just do what it says?
You please go to my Twitter timeline. If you need to see
this. Okay, and see the retweet that I did from Mickey. And you
will see exactly how the relationship is. I think it's
it's the most recent thing I retweeted.
I've now live more than Jared traffic. What was the actual
question?
You got to look at the retweets otherwise you won't see it.
I don't know how you look at the retweets. You click on my
profile and says tweets and retweets says tweets and
replies,
I think you need to go the other one. I don't know. I'm going to
go to Mickey's twitter then. It's simple. I'll read it to you
all
you do this. I don't know how to work it. Well, apparently.
There's a picture some girls showing her but
that's something else all together. That you hear it is
Sunday morning wisdom and she has a sign a picture of a sign.
I'll read the sign to you. If at first you don't succeed, try
doing it the way your wife told you.
Huh? I see the sign. Yeah. And that fortunately, okay, I see
that, but I don't see anything else. But that's it. That's the
sign. The sign I'm looking at the sign. But where's the
picture of your face?
No, this has nothing to do with my face. I'm just saying that's
what you do. This is how women are today. Oh, yeah. And this
was the reason why I'm a little bit behind a little bit late. We
had a dinner guests last night. Oh, producer Mark. And Mark is
not only the producer of this program, but he is also a
producer of a documentary, which I believe we have discussed on
the show. And the documentary is titled The Global catch, which
is about the tuna trade. Okay. And wow, so we're planning this
is the this we're working on a trip to Panama.
You right, I keep forgetting about the the trip to Panama.
Somebody needs to do a jingle for that
trip. The trip to Panama
science to Panama, powered by science
of the trip trip with this podcast, by the way is powered
by science. The trip to Panama, which looks like it's going to
be February, but we we had a well, there were two main topics
of conversation, which is really what what, in some ways threw me
off track but also gave me a lot of material to look into and
talk about today. We're
going to be less likely to be arrested with a beard in Panama.
Is that the deal?
Yeah, yeah. Exactly. One is the for Tula the for Tula Gulin.
Saga. This is the the holy man as they say, the holy man who
has been holy hold up and has his compound in Pennsylvania,
where the the CIA set him up. And you'll recall, it was the
SAR Neff, the Sarnath brothers, Sister in law, I think, who was
married to one of the guys from the CIA, who got Gulin into
Pennsylvania, and he's been there for a couple of decades.
And he is he's been undermining air Diwan in Turkey for for as
for just as as many years, and he has all the charter schools.
You recall, we've talked about this several we
know we've talked about a lot. Yeah, we don't. Yeah. Well, and,
and as you know, Mark is very interested in perhaps doing
another documentary, which could possibly be about this guy. And
so you know, we've we've shared a lot of different he's been
very inspiring to me to look into what this guy is doing. And
he tells me about a documentary that's coming out, titled, love
is a verb. Then this documentary is about the Tula Gulin. And
when you start to look into this guy, who, no one has CBS, NBC,
CNN, New York Times, no one gets the interview this guy, no one.
But of course, this Terry Spencer Hesser, a woman who did
an Indiegogo fun, crowd funded raise of I don't know, $120,000,
of course, got a full on interview. And not only after
she was taken to Turkey, this is the way this guy operates. Hey,
coming in, we'll tell you about the interfaith movement. And
we'll we'll take you on a free trip to Turkey and we fly around
and then all of a sudden, there's a documentary immediate
play a little bit of the trailer for the movie, which is also
exactly what's almost the full pitch they use for Indiegogo.
This is the story of a
man, a Turkish Muslim. Preacher, and the global movement of
social activists. In 2013,
by the way, I apologize, I didn't realize they had done
really two separate tracks. This is kind of lame.
Time Magazine named him one of the most influential leaders in
the world. Because of his influence, at risk, children are
now being educated are being treated? And starving?
Are you able to hear that? Are you getting both channels?
No, all I'm getting is data, data, data, data, data, music.
Okay, let me do that. Overall, do you need to be able to hear
it? Sorry about that. That's kind of
sound like a long intro to nothing.
This was one channel there's a voice I received this change.
This is the story of
a man, a Turkish Muslim, scholar, a preacher and the
global movement of social activists he inspires me in
2013, Time Magazine named him one of the most influential
leaders in the world.
I don't even recall that that he was
I don't either, but you they have these lists. As you sit
around and you make up
what wasn't Hitler a man of the year as well.
Vice I think maybe
because of his influence, at risk, children are now being
educated in hundreds of countries. The sick are being
treated and the starving, often a great person. It's also
because of his influence and the collective power of the
movement, that for two of the lands feared and even revived
within his native Turkey. And as a Muslim leader of a powerful
global movement. He is scrutinized in the United States
where he lives in self imposed exile.
I love self imposed exile know he was brought here by the State
Department in the CIA and he's been in this compound under
their guidance action Because Thank you protection, guidance,
etc. And he is responsible for the almost an overthrow of the
entire Erawan government because of all of the Gulenists that
were inside the government, with this huge scandal has been going
on for the past three years
to explore this controversial holy man,
controversial holy man, and the movement of Turkish
Muslims, he inspires. We're going to examine Turkish history
and Sufi mysticism.
This is interesting. This I do not believe is true that now
they're claiming he's a Sufi, which I'm pretty sure, you know,
and they're in this documentary, they compare him to Rumi, of all
things just to make
Sufis are interesting. People don't realize until they start
researching and I didn't believe it when I first heard it. But
But bin Laden and many people in Al Qaeda were all Sufis that
says enough, then, doesn't it? Yeah, pretty much go
to just a few of the places where these Idealists are
working to serve humanity in order to please God.
In order to please God, hey, listen to this. All right. Okay,
so that's part of that's the trailer and then here's she has
a little pitch this. Terry Spencer Hesser, who likes to let
everyone know that she's an award winning something.
Hi, I'm Terry Spencer Hester and this is love as a verb. I was
introduced to the Gulen Movement in 2010. With a free trip to
Turkey. I was an award winning writer and television producer.
I like doing that. Hey, I'm the award winning Adam curry.
Certainly you've heard of me how you doing? Nice to meet you.
This certainly
is like that character.
And please be my friend the best selling author, John C. Dvorak.
You have an award somewhere, don't
you? We've had plenty of awards, actually. Awards talk, I don't
sit around bragging about I
love. Hey, I was and I wasn't, I guess she's no longer an award
winning screenwriter. It's found that to be a little strange if
you don't say that about yourself.
I was introduced to the Gulen Movement in 2010. I was an award
winning writer and television producer. And they were one of
the largest social movements in the world. And really, nobody
knew either of us to document the works of the movement and
profiled their laserable.
What she was a woman I've got pictures on the screen, she
looks in sufferable. Here.
We traveled throughout the United States to Turkey where
the movement was born, as well as Bosnia, Belgium, Iraq, and
Somalia,
all related and not unimportant. To see the connections, we got
to
know the Turkish humanitarians who are influenced by the
philosophy of faith to like Quran,
which in the Netherlands and Germany, these schools have been
closed by governments because they were madrassas. Yeah. And
if you look at the his charter school movement in the United
States, which a lot of it's in Texas, but also Pennsylvania, at
least $100 million from the government, our government going
into this, and, of course, being shuttled through to his movement
around the world, you know, to unseat, or at least, put the
Erdogan government on alert,
a man named by Time Magazine as one of the world's most
influential leaders. Before I began this project, I didn't
really know any Muslims, nor did I make an effort to. But I
believe that in a post 911 world, you should know these
Muslims. And I think that if there's any hope for peace in
the world, fatally Goulandris example, should be followed.
This was a very expensive production, and one that we're
finally in the finishing stages of, I hope that you'll see that
love is a verb and help us to introduce the Gulen movement to
the world.
And they wanted $66,000 and got more than 100 grand Oh,
good. Yeah, they should good sales.
Well, no, I'm thinking something different. I'm thinking this is
Oh, yeah, I know what you're thinking. This is the perfect
way to do it long. Of course, this is the perfect way to do
all kinds of financing for you know, back backdoor financing
for propaganda. It's beautiful. You'll see a lot of these films
about presidential candidates and it all be Oh, it's a
Kickstarter. Well, I think they brought chose Indiegogo probably
because Kickstarter, might be might be too sophisticated to
scam them like this. become $102,000 in a couple months for
a movie no one's ever heard about and where's that money
coming from? That's, I think that's pretty obvious.
So one of the things she won was the Christopher Columbus award
for playwriting. And Christopher Columbus awards are some middle
school thing. I'm telling you, I'm looking at it now. I know
Preparing for the Christopher Columbus awards can fit easily
into your plans. Preparing a competition project is great
learning experience for students in science, or social studies
classes, or for cross curricular use and team teaching, or block.
schedule classes is an after school or community organization
program.
So here's how some of the discussion started last night as
I was reading the director's message. And it's interesting
because we have seen this anti Muslim Islam, the message from
our president even saying, hey, you know, we got we have to have
people stand up in the in the Muslim community and say, you
know, those ISIL guys, they're not us. So maybe this is the
controlled counter message. And here's what I took issue with.
And we had a conversation about in the decade after 911, says
the director, the winner of the Columbus award in high school, I
was vaguely aware that it was not a good time to be a Muslim
in America, nor was it a good time to be an American in the
Middle East. But for me, like for most Americans, this
awareness morphed into specific and nonspecific fears about
Islam and the extreme interpretations of it. Now, I
disagree with this. I believe the narrative that Americans had
after 911 was Bin Laden, al Qaeda, Taliban, Iraq, Saddam
Hussein. I think if anything, it was steered away from the Islam
fear or Am I incorrect? Mickey said I was wrong.
That's a good question. I'm not going to say you're right or
wrong at this point. Thanks. Well, that's not helpful. Well,
I don't have an answer to that because I remember the ear
obviously remember it but I don't know I would actually
maybe side with you. And I'll tell you why. It's because they
did. They kind of went out of their way bent over backwards as
it were, to accommodate the Muslims to the point where
they're listening to everything care. And these other
organizations have to stay in guys like Daniel Pipes, who was
one of the more the strongest critics of, of modern Islam,
Miss Islamism was pretty much shut up by he was shouted down
in many instances. And, yeah, you probably I would say at some
level, you're right. And she's seeing it from a different
perspective and some level she's right.
Now she goes on, she says, then in 2010, I met a group of people
from the Niagra foundation. You might want to look that one up,
who invited me on an interfaith trip to Turkey now, the Niagra
free trip to Turkey Yes. And the Niagara foundation is run by
this guy his name is he's also on the credits of course, how
can Burberry Oh glue and that's a goon funded foundation. So
yes, it
is in fact, if you look up the Niagara foundation on the on the
Google's the first thing that crops up to besides them under
the sub heads, when they have those little sub heads, they
have a Tula Gulin right at the top. So it says operation.
Yeah, so she did a documentary with his money about him. Yeah,
exactly. As he goes on to say, I am not where's our gig like
this? She goes on to say, Brother
Hey, we're gonna do
we need to go inside behind the Koch brothers empire and find
out if they are good. Guys, they are. I am not religious, he
said. But I'm curious and jumped at any chance to see Turkey and
to have an adventure with a culture that was foreign to me.
I looked at the system what that woman said, Director,
I looked at the trip as an opportunity to discover new
stories to fill out a free trip Give me a break. I never dreamed
it would change my worldview. After the trip, I decided that
others worldview had to be changed as well. Why you will
obey after a lot of reading several more trips. Oh, and a
lot of scouting and interviewing. We began our
journey has a lot of rugs.
She's done. I believe she has certainly been nominated for an
Emmy maybe even two might have even won one.
She says she's won three but we don't know what kind of Emmys
because all enemies are the same. If you have a local news
story that's really good you'll get a local me but you can still
say your Emmy winning report has an Emmy for doing that character
on MSNBC when they when MSNBC had the site, you get an
immediate he did a virtual character never showed up at
all. And because of that, yeah, it Well was it was a very unique
idea. It was a it was a kind of a cartoon character that was on
the SAT and they gave him an Emmy for that.
Here it is about me. Let me say At Terry Spencer hacer.org Terry
Spencer hacer a published novelist, biographer produced
playwright. That's what she got the award for in middle school
award winning screenwriter and recipient of three Emmy Awards.
Right now, you just told me that Leo has won that the Emmys have
kind of gone down in stature.
They also the local Emmys or there's other kinds of ancillary
Emmys are a different size. They're not the big clunkers. In
fact, if somebody's won an Emmy, you have to ask them, Did you
get the big clunker here? Did you get just one of these little
ones here and then why don't you just get a little
Emmy nomination mechanic island the mecca of the Midwest that
sounds like a local me a war on all fronts the life and times of
Robert Rutherford McCormack 2005. That's an award Emmy
nomination worried sick 2003 hear is but what's more
interesting, I think is her corporate work. wrote and
produced multiple award winning again individual programs and
series for the Chicago Community Trust circle Ameritech waste
management, Roosevelt University Walgreens Commonwealth Edison
McDonald's Hewitt and Associates. So she's one of
those Nike Gatorade are Kelly and Jay Z radiological
physicians Northwestern hospital Chest Physicians Mars candy.
Yeah, this is the industrial
type so she did an industrial paid for by Gulin that's the way
I see it. Yeah,
that's exactly what it is. And she's done. So many industrials.
She could sell it to goo Lana's look I look at my Walmart work.
How's Walmart doing? Yeah, you want to do you want to be big
like Walmart big. You want to be a brand
and doesn't want somebody who's gonna go in there and actually
do a documentary they want what's the buff piece and she's
like she's custom made for it.
Here's a quick excerpts from the
doc although millions of people have responded to Fela goo lens
message of hope and call to service. Secular establishment
was not among them.
There was an image of Fethullah Gulen described by the state
apparatus is a villain as someone who is going to bring
Sharia to this country.
Yeah, that's kind of the whole idea as far as I see it, someone
trying to set up a Muslim Republic.
He does not choose to be on TV. He does not choose to move
around the country to give public meetings he does not even
choose to meet with significant numbers of his his followers. He
lives a rather monkish kind of life
with 100 guys up on the hill in this compound in Pennsylvania,
monkish,
monkish is spiritually
bonded to God Himself.
How old is this?
What is this documentary? No, I know this character Goonies in
the 60s, maybe 70s. Let's find out book of knowledge. So this
became a very interesting conversation, because we really
hadn't updated each other in, in several months. And he's, I
think he's been up to the compound trying to get some
footage. And, and, you know, there's just, you know, we've
had the FBI, rating some of these schools in Pennsylvania
and Ohio tribe. Yeah. Because the, the way I see it me
personally, Adam, you know, hey, comedian over here is no, but
this 73 A lot of this money is maybe not just going to charter
schools and the way some of the charter schools are run, as you
have to question, as did the several EU countries, you know,
what exactly is being taught in these countries? Is it in the
schools? Is it in line with the is it common core, I guess, is
my question. And, you know, now he's making a move. We got this
documentary coming out, he's being compared to Rumi, which I
mean, I have a book by Rumi beautiful poems. I just don't
think that's a fair comparison if he can even call himself a
Sufi at all. And it's interesting that you say that
that apparently was what Osama bin Laden was and I think that
kind of says enough right there. So then we move from this into
and I think I fucked it up. We start talking about about men
and women and about Muslims and and I think that Mark actually
dove right in and that was pretty interesting because he
would make he gets a gets into an argument. This is how we met
you know, it's, it's, it's frightening. What arguing? She
very she's very aggressive. When she wants to make a point, and I
always get caught off guard because I'm just never ready for
it because she's good. During the show, I know if you're gonna
argue with me, I'm ready for it. But then yes, oh, whoa, crap. I
don't have I don't have my show notes. Guy. I don't have the
book of knowledge. I can't do anything. And we got into a
conversation about I think, and I this way you're punished by
having to wear a beard now this correct? Yes, it's a big part of
it. And we got into a conversation which I believe is
oku Ron's right now and I'm seeing the messaging. In fact, I
will play a Sarah Silverman clip, which is brand new, you
know, Sarah Silverman always does things which are hilarious,
but they always have a political message. Oh, hi.
I'm Sarah Silverman, writer, comedian, and vagina owner.
Women make up almost half the working population. Yet we
typically earn just 78 cents to every dollar a man makes in
almost every profession, like doctors, lawyers, teachers,
miners, and even the oldest profession of the mall. Tail.
You see that guy streetwalker? Who's tailoring pants haha.
Every year the average woman loses around $11,000 to the wage
gap over the course of the working years of her life.
That's almost 500 grand. That's a $500,000. Vagina tax. That's
why I'm taking matters into my own hands. Well, somebody else's
hands really Dr. Goldstein, or is it Goldstein? O'Malley? I'm
becoming a dude.
Okay. So this is about the this is where what we were talking
about. We're all kind of saying the same thing
debunked is bull crap about the 70% 70.
It's actually now 78 cents. But yeah, I want to revisit that
briefly. But we got into a conversation. I think Mark and I
said that we were disappointed in the feminist movement, as
I've said many times on this show, very disappointed in the
feminist movement as to how little is being for the amount
of time and effort and and screen time that is spent on ban
bossy, and, and this wage gap, which we need to talk about. If
you really want to advance women, you know, and this was
Mark's point, and I agree with him, you have to look at what's
happening worldwide where Iran and Egypt 30 years ago, women
weren't wearing burgers, they weren't covered up it was a
modern progressive country.
Now. I'm actually in the 70s Afghanistan was the same way
same way
and I'm not going to say that we didn't have a hand in it with
the douchebags we put in place and the geopolitical game but
it's the more laws and other religious nut fuckers who came
in and, and really decompressed and degraded women's rights in
these countries. And I'm always surprised how how little noise
there is from the feminist movement yet when you get this
story which is of course there is actual discrimination. I'll
give you an example. The here's what happened just the other
day. This of course, what is it going on with my Mac here? This
is a CBS piece on the the new CEO of Microsoft, Satya Nadella
at a conference dedicated to women in the technology field.
Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella had some stunning advice about women
asking for a raise it's not really
about asking for the ring and for because it's hilarious he's
but knowing and having faith that the system will actually
give you the right raises as you go along. Women should
keep quiet. Nadella then added that a so called supernatural
force will take care of the race.
I think that's a little little bit of twisting of his words.
But okay, what are the additional superpowers?
Haha that quite frankly, women who don't ask for a raise?
Because that's good karma. It'll come back in the long term
efficiency things catch up.
Even the moderator Maria club a Microsoft board member couldn't
believe what she heard.
This is what a very few things I disagree with you on
the Twitter universe also lit up with tweets like so what Nadella
said was women who want to race take a hike. New Yorkers also
chimed in, and I'm pretty
sure you wouldn't ever have suggested that to any of his
male executives and wait for a friend of ours
when we need to ask her what's rightfully theirs. Nadella
quickly went into damage control mode and backpedal, claiming on
Twitter his remarks were inarticulate and that the tech
industry must close gender pay gap. Later he issued this
statement to Microsoft employees. I believe men and
women should get equal pay for equal work and If you think you
deserve a raise, you should just ask. I think it was a
surprisingly
unvarnished moment.
It was that. Who was that? What who was that speaking? You have
to imagine
that if someone within Microsoft was already concerned about
treatment of weapons area will be claimed they might be feeling
a little more concerned now.
Now Microsoft released an internal diversity report
earlier this week that showed that 29% of the company's global
workforce are women, which represents a 5% year over year
increase. But guys, I can tell you, the critics are still not
pleased after this was
Mollywood was Mollywood. Who was it as funny? Okay, fine.
Mollywood? Well, we started talking
about knowing the client, well, knowing the climate is actually
came up in the conversation, because Naomi Klein, it's as if
she listened to the last five episodes of no agenda. And she's
on her facebook saying, hey, these beheading videos look
bogus. How come everyone how come the mainstream media is not
actually looking into the authenticity? She's saying, Hey,
what's up this week with Ebola? Is it possible that we're just
sending people over all these combat troops to capture oil in
in West Africa?
What is she doing listen to our show and then stealing our
material.
But what happens is unanimously, particularly I see a lot of
women going, she had just checked into the train the Crazy
Train, she's got a nut job, stupid, crazy woman. And this is
where we had this kind of heated debate about, you know, how the
feminist movement is very quick to cut down women. And oh, yeah,
well, there's a known fact. And I'm going to assert, and I can
actually prove my point, that this pay gap, which, if you
really, and we have, we have debunked this, if you really
look at the numbers, and the reasons behind it, there is a
pay gap. And I would say it's probably closer to 9%. And
there's, you know, it's really how you present these numbers.
But of course, it's the the AAUW who are creating these, and they
have $130 million. And I'll tell you why this organization isn't,
you know, the the was the American Association for uniting
women, they come up with these studies, and, and they say,
Well, if you take all women up to the age of 60, and all men
and then you take the pay, you add it up and divided by the
number of people, then yeah, then there's a huge gap. But
there's a number of reasons for it. And I will readily admit
that there, most definitely, there's discrimination. Of
course there is and there should be no discrimination all but
it's not 70. You know, there's not there's making 77 or 78
cents of the dollar. That is a meme that I believe is part of
the strategy, too. And you'll see soon that it's Republicans
that are of course responsible for this. It's a strategy to get
women to never vote for a Republican and I think I can, I
can prove that but here's here's where we had an interesting
conversation. I said, Why is it that I have not heard any women
stand up and denounce the National Football League force
Congress to remove their tax exempt status, which Congress
can do with one stroke of the pen and and truly forced the
commissioner to resign over a player in one of the richest
sports in the world who call cold Cox's, his girlfriend, and
we saw it on video slams her drags her out of the elevated
legs, either the sack of potatoes. It quite honestly was
Mollywood Gen Z or on CBS talking about that, where where
was the outrage? I would join any woman for the outrage to
tell the NFL to go pound sand. But that never happens. And I
will and this was you know, it's disturbing to me,
well, never happens because it's not directed to happen. It Thank
you, excuse me to disturbed by anything, you should be
disturbed by what I'm always disturbed by which is that
people are being led around by the nose by of course, the most.
As we discussed about a year ago, when we had the last
Edelman event where they talked about who do you trust, it's
essentially the head of a PR company, a use of or an
examination of all the different types of organization and
individuals media police law, the most trusted people in the
world are NGOs, and
non government organizations which are funded often by USA ID
and other corporations about or
who knows they always have an agenda though. And so the AU w
which is leading this this push about the 70 whatever percent
7077 off yeah. Is is an NGO and so they're all whatever they say
goes so they don't descend. They don't bring it up. If they go to
the web page and see nothing about about these football
players pounding on women, then it's then it's not an issue.
This is like the we talked about in the last show of the New York
Times. and these other newspapers, if they don't write
it up, then to your little local paper, you don't write it up. So
this is this is horrible.
Let me and I want to, and I'm only doing this, this is not
about whether women are still not equal in society. We have a
lot of work to do. Note, and I think that I think that we are
both huge proponents of women and want to, and we've helped
many women to accelerate far beyond us, far beyond us. And I
think you need to start making excuses, no excuses. But I do
have women discussing this issue, because we're probably
not, we will not be accepted as qualified. But first, let's play
a little bit of the State of the Union from the President to, to
hear the what the real message was, which is yes, it's true
what he's saying. But now we have an actual bill on the
table, which I have some professional advice may not be
the best thing for women. In fact, it may counter what women
are looking for. But this is the messaging that went out in the
State of the Union last year.
Today, women make up about half our workforce. But they still
make 77 cents for every dollar a man earns,
that's now become 78. Apparently, you've got one penny
is the message.
That is wrong. And in 2014, it's an embarrassment. Women deserve
equal pay for equal work.
Standing ovation, and deservedly so.
She deserves to have a baby without sacrificing your job. A
mother deserves a day off to care for a sick child or a sick
parent without running into hardship. And you know what a
father does too. It is time to do away with workplace policies
that belong in a madman episode. This year, let's come together.
Congress, the White House businesses from Wall Street to
Main Street to give every woman the opportunity she deserves.
Because I believe when women succeed, America succeeds. So
that is an
excellent, excellent speech. Everyone went wild. And it's a
funny line about Mad Men. And I think we're I think we've
progressed a little bit since the days of madmen. But I wanted
to understand the process of the Equal Pay Act. Once we have the
Lilly Ledbetter Act as an employer, you can get in serious
trouble if you are caught. In fact, women can today Sue many
years after the fact for a back pay and and other punitive
damages, if they if they can show that they were
discriminated against in the workplaces, certainly with
compensation. So this is not something that is very smart for
any employer to do. And I found a piece from Milton Friedman,
that well, how do you hold Milton Friedman, The Economist?
How do you what kind of
hold them in high regard? Yes. And he was during every economic
40 year era, there one is kind of interesting. One of these
guys will emerge, and they have every 40 years as you go going
way back. And Freeman was the guy who explained what happened
in the 70s, of which was the stagflation situation. So he
became the dominant economist. And then and these guys,
Coincidently, every one of them dies within his own their own
era. So they can't really do anything about what happens
wrong, which is, you know, we're having issues now. And it would
go on, so
he died in 2006. But he was the 1976, recipient of the Nobel
Prize in Economics study. So you have to you agreed, slouch? Not,
it's actually a very funny guy. And he addressed Of course, he
didn't address this current bill that is being discussed, which
would be regulations, more regulations, for equal pay for
equal work for men and women. And I had to listen to this
twice, I think we'll be able to listen to it once and then get
through it. This was a speech that he did at Harvard, in this
is got to be I think, late 90s. About when this was already an
issue. And so we he talks about this, and then he gets a
question from a female student, and then he elaborates. And when
you think about it, wow, the guy is smart,
equal pay for equal work. Laws are a source of apartheid. You
know, the basic source of apartheid in South Africa, was
the insistence by trade unions on equal pay for equal work. The
equal the women who go around today, urging equal pay for
equal work or being anti feminist.
This caught my attention as you can imagine, yes, okay. They
don't
intend to, but that is the effect of their policy, because
if there is any activity in which for any reason, a male is
preferable to a female, or vice versa. The only weapon, the less
productive sex has, is to offer to work for less. And if you
deny them that opportunity, you're assuring yourself that
you're going to have all male jobs or all female jobs. All
white jobs are all blacktail that this sounds
so counterintuitive when you hear it for the first time. But
when you start to think and when he goes in to explain it again,
you see the error of the thinking,
don't you also condemning him to stay that way? Not at all,
not at all the typical course if you go back to American history,
by taking these low paid jobs, a great many people, not all but a
great many people were able to develop skills and activities
accumulate a little skill, a little capital, a little
knowledge, improve their lot, become advanced in the stage,
get to a higher level of productivity and get a higher
income. That's been the typical way up the ladder for most of
the people who came in here was a way up the ladder from my
parents were your parents or grandparents or great
grandparents, I don't know, which. And that's the way in
which unfortunately, there's no way in which you can say
immediately propel people to the top of the ladder. Now get
ready for his second explanation, it really becomes
clear,
Mr. Friedman, referring to the statements that you made about
women who abdicate equal pay for equal work,
gi fraud, that arise out of the light of the habit.
By the way, there's guys in the audience douchebags laughing
they don't get it either, until he really explains it.
Yes. Okay. I just would like to know, if you're insinuating or
perhaps, you know, point blank Lee saying that women and other
minorities skills are inferior to those of those now holding
those jobs, and that they need to go through a period where
their skills need to be improved, and therefore deserve
to be paid less.
No, I don't think desert has anything to do with it. First of
all, I think dessert is an impossible thing to decide who
deserves one, nobody deserves anything. Thank God, we don't
get what we deserve. Good luck. But but I'm not saying that at
all. I'm saying a very different thing. I'm saying that the
actual effect of requiring equal pay for equal work will be to
harm women. If women skills are higher than men's in a
particular job and are recognized to be higher, the law
does no good. Because then they will be able to compete away and
can get the same income. If their skills are less for
whatever reason, maybe it isn't, because they're saying it's
their sex, maybe it's because they were out of the labor
force. Maybe it's for other reasons. And you say the only
way you can you are able to hire him is by paying the same way,
then you're denying them the only weapon they have to fight
with? If the unwillingness of the men to hire him is because
men are sexist. are, what's the phrase racist, misogynist,
sexist pigs or whatever,
I don't think they had that word back then.
That's the only reason they want to hire him. Nonetheless, you
want to make it costly to them to exercise their prejudice. If
you say to him, you have to pay the same wage, no matter whether
you pay will hire women or men. Then here's Mr. sexist pig. It
doesn't cost him anything to hire men instead of women.
However, if the women are free to compete, and to say, well,
now look, I'll offer my work for less than he can only hire men
if he bears a cost. If the women are really good as a man as good
as a man, that he's paying a price for discriminating and
what you are doing not intentionally, but by
misunderstanding, when you tried to get equal pay for equal work
laws is what you are doing is reducing to zero, the cost
imposed on people who are who are discriminating for
irrelevant reasons. And I would like to see a cost imposed on
this. This was mind blowing when I thought about it for a moment.
It's completely true. The last thing you want is equality,
because then there is no penalty for hiring a man. Right? I think
well, but no one ever thinks that this conversation is not
being
discussed, doesn't fit into the what the NGOs are telling people
as to how to how people should be thinking,
well, let's listen to me. By the way, I
want to mention that Milton Friedman was one of the
promoters of what Nixon introduced which which never
went anywhere, which is the negative income tax, which is
not quite what they're doing in Switzerland, or what they're
starting to do in Switzerland. If you want to take a just take
a quick little explain Of course, clip that I have on
Swiss. I think I got Swiss giving away and that's where we
get a little background on this trip. load. The proposed Basic
Income initiative arrived with a splash and the promise of 2000
euro a month for every Swiss citizen intended to let them
live without basic financial worry. Live Without financial
worry what a great idea says Elizabeth Nolan Brown and
editor@reason.com. No, it's a terrible idea says economist Ed
stringer. So Elizabeth, you got to convince me what why is this
a good idea? People will just waste the money and then
government will say, Well, you have to spend more.
Well, I think I don't know that I agree exactly with that plan
that they have. But there are all different versions of this
even you know, Milton Friedman proposed some version of this
with a negative income tax. So it's not an anti libertarian
position per se. Charles
Murray, majoritarian hero wrote a book a plan to replace welfare
state Give, give everyone 10,000 bucks.
And we've talked and talked about this the the guaranteed
minimum income. There's a lot of conversations about this, right?
Yep. And
we're just as a society, this is this is what Friedman was
pushing one of his many ideas. And
I have to say, when I look at the President's new initiative,
which he calls the creating opportunities for millennials,
did you receive the emails? No, I didn't
realize it. You know, I have not been routinely opening that
Maelstrom from Obama.
What's interesting is that somehow I'm subscribed to to two
different email addresses.
I think I've subscribed you to most of them. Yeah, thanks.
Okay. Hi, Mimi,
now that you're ready for Hillary? Yeah, I have that one.
Thank you. But what they're doing is they are sending the
same message for different different subject lines. So
there they are a be testing for opens and stuff because I'm
getting an interesting, I don't know why I'm never getting this.
I'm always getting two different subject lines on two different
ad curry.com email addresses, which
is yeah, they are dead. That's a test. They're doing a B testing.
And, and if you if you look at the President's plan for
millennials, it's all about getting you into debt as quickly
as possible with educational system. That's the plan for
creating jobs. And no, it's the plan for creating a debt slaves.
And my current thinking is that maybe this guaranteed minimum
income is not such a bad idea, at least you're not a slave to
debt. People are going to be, you know, cannon fodder, and
worthless eventually, anyway, we're out. I
agree with this 100%. Every time I bring it up, I it really
creates a lot of argument because of the just a knee jerk,
die. And Randy has some ideas that it can never be, but it's
economically speaking, I think it's a better deal than most
people, the more they can look forward to.
Yeah, that's in the nonsense that oh, you could give people
$2,000 A month or 10,000 or whatever it is that Stossel said
in that clip, they're just gonna waste it now as they're not
gonna What What makes you say that? Yeah, it's a it's a
stereotype to say, if you give some poor person $2,000 to
sustain to sustain themselves for a while, that they're going
to waste it.
So now I want to wind this up by playing a small piece which
aired on the Wall Street Journal website. Do they have a TV
channels or just all video that doing on?
Oh, they have? It's all online? They do have they do have a show
every show? There's a couple shows a day that are sent and
right. Yeah, this indicates some stuff. So this is a woman from
the AAUW, the NIH, and they are the ones that are propagating
this 78% or 78 cents. But when she gets deeper into it, even
she can only show through and she talks about the
methodologies and how we do the research. This woman can really
only show a 6% difference, which is still it's not okay. And I
tried to say Oh, because it's less it doesn't make any
difference. Yeah, of course, it's discrimination and all over
the world for all kinds of reasons. All with all dudes,
ageism. There's all kinds of discrimination, but certainly
against women. But then there's this other woman from the
International Woman's forum, I believe, and here's at least
three women talking about it so we can shut up.
Joining me now is Aaron primely, the Associate Director of
Government Relations for the American Association of
University Women. Along with her today we have Sabrina Schaefer,
the executive director of the independent Women's Forum.
Aaron, let's start with you, your group has been particularly
vocal that the gender pay gap exists, that it's a problem. How
do you think these actions today could help?
Thank you so much. The American Association has worked on this
issue for a very long time. And quite frankly, we're thrilled
and we're relieved.
This is because the President was it was it Sarah and what's
her name? The actress in Hong Kong. California, and he was
talking about, oh, we're gonna get this done, we're gonna get
this bill passed. And you know, we need to have more laws to
force people into the equality which if you follow Friedman's
logic will actually hurt women a great
step for women and their families across the country.
AAUW research has shown that even accounting for all
different factors career education, there's still an
unexplained pay gap, which many believe is due to workplace
discrimination.
Sabrina, I want to go to you in addition to these executive
actions, the president is also pushing for the Paycheck
Fairness Act and Congress, you don't think these will actually
make that big of a difference in advancing equal pay. Why is
that?
No, that's exactly right. Well, first of all, this is premise on
the faulty 77 cents statistic that women only make 77 cents on
what every dollar that a man earns. Even the White House
yesterday conceded this point that this is a gross
overstatement when you control for any number of very important
factors. college major time spent out of the workforce time
spent in the office each day, the wage gap all but disappears.
And so we want to make sure that we're not creating more
legislation based on a faulty statistic and the that won't
actually close the wage gap. What the bill will do is pad the
pockets of trial lawyers who will be lining up because women
will be automatically filed into class suits, there will be no
cap on damages. This will make it harder for employers to tie
remuneration to actual work product. This is a disaster and
will have nothing to do with to actually protect women or men in
the workplace.
I think he's a very good point.
I think she's right on the money. It's amazing that
somebody would come out with such honesty. I want to mention
something here because I had a clip some time ago to discuss
this. They were talking about the certain women that are high
profile. You know that we talked about the glass ceiling. There's
a lot of stereotypes that are really back from the 60s that
have have if you really started looking at it have gone away the
number of women CEOs and high positions in mid big companies
let me name a few. The CEO of PepsiCo is a woman the CEO of
Kraft so a woman that CBS CEO of IBM is a woman the CEO of HP is
a woman the CEO of Xerox is a woman, the CEO of Ben Chua
Brazilian Petrobras is a woman Yahoo. Disney well it would
Disney's though of ABC part of Disney WellPoint, the second
biggest healthcare operation Avon General Motors Time Inc.
Ah, I mean, go on and on. And these women take care of this
problem themselves.
Well, this is an excellent point. Where are they? Where are
they saying we're fixing it? I think they probably know, I
think they're smarter than this. But this is not about women.
This is the point I want to make, as we look into his AAUW,
this is, this is actually the most anti feminist organization.
They are abusing women, misusing them to get people to vote for
the Democratic Party in these upcoming elections, which is why
this is taking place right now. And this is they have $113
million dollars in the bank. In the bank, these people I wanted
to talk about in a minute, just listen to the rest of this,
because it's a great conversation, and it's amongst
women. Thank you.
Erin, I want to go back to you. Because we do tend to cite that
77 cents for every dollar that men
are Yeah, because you're being led by the messaging, which is
all part of the system, which is how it works in politics. And
there has
been a lot of criticism around that number. What did you guys
find when you dug into the pay gap?
So thanks for bringing that up. You know, I think that 77 cent
number is actually not being used appropriately by some folks
in a UW has done on our most recent report, graduating to a
pay grab an apples to apples comparison of women and men just
one year out of college. And when you look at that, there's
still an unexplained pay gap. And what is disturbing to me is
those who would write off a scab as not significant. Listen, a
pay gap, which affects your earnings is going to have a
significant impact on your opportunities and choices.
Whether you go back to school, whether you can afford a home, a
car, all of these issues are very real for young women
graduating right now just one year for making 7% less.
So now that this is the real number 7%. Because that's a big
difference from the 33%. They've been talking about 23% have been
talking about. And 7% it's still it's inexcusable. But life is
first not fair, and it's a lot better than the madman days.
Now. If you go into an open ended job, and you are offered a
job at 7% less than the guys offered the job. And you take
the you know in other words you're offering I'm offering you
a job for 10 bucks, and the woman comes along and says I'll
do the job for $9.93 Since then, yeah, and you as the employee,
okay, I'm gonna hire the woman. And the guy doesn't get the job.
I mean, it seems to me that that's the mechanism at work.
low balling.
Well, now you're you're agreeing with Friedman, of course, that
this is the only way you can actually advance and move
forward. Yeah, but the legislative legislative route is
a very big, by the way, look
at these numbers we just are looking at at the course we
brought this up with Nadella start looking at the Indian pay
for program with h1 B visas versus anybody how
many old people work at Facebook? How many programmers
who are 60 work at Facebook,
and you have qualified programmers that are who are 60
That won't get a job at video, I bet you there's zero at first,
there probably is zero over 50. Let's try 40. Now let's listen
to the rest of this. Because of these two women do finish I
liked this conversation like ease dropping on,
actually, from the same job graduating from the same school
with working the same hours in the same industries and
occupations. Alright, so we look at graduating to a pay gap and
the methodology we use. You can see the pay gap is very real.
All right. Thanks for that. Aaron. Sabrina, back to you for
the last word. There have been some studies that say when you
control for education, when you control for the job, there still
is some kind of a pay gap there. What's your take on that? Is
there something that needs to be done? Well, first of all, there
is a very small pay gap, maybe four or five, six cents, some of
which may be explained by discrimination. Certainly some
of it may be explained by women's choices and women's
behavior things like we know, for instance, that women don't
negotiate their wages as often as men do. This can have an
impact as well. What we want to remind your viewers is that
there are already laws on the books right the Equal Pay Act of
1963 and the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Both protects women and
men against baseless gender discrimination. The Lilly
Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, which the President is touting today
allows women to sue for literally years after they might
have discovered they were discriminated against. So what
we really want is to provide the tools to women to better
themselves. Learn how to negotiate to learn conflict
resolution to learn how to get that corner office, this law
won't do that this law will simply pad the pockets of trial
lawyers.
Not correct address inequities. Where
we're going to sorry, we're out of time, we're gonna have to do
this Andrew. Joining us,
shut up.
Shut up slave.
So let me just John, let me just talk we're
out of time, by the way, bothers me more than anything else.
Yeah, there's
not a guy. No, it's totally not. Okay. Here's the AAUW with
current net assets $119,000,968. For the woman who is talking
about the pay gap and how we need to do things, they have a
lot of money received 1010 and a half million dollars this year,
of course, we can't really tell where it's coming from. But I
will tell you what they spend it on their top three programs
outreach, as a core organizational function includes
the programs and activities that communicate with members and the
general public in order to advance equity for women and
girls through education, philanthropy, and research
implemented at the National local levels. So it is a
lobbying group, and they're very, very well funded clearly.
And what I thought was interesting is how they spend
some of this money, just like we're looking at this form 990s
Because funny things, how they run this business, I wanted to
ask you what you thought of this. So first of all, they put
11 and a half million dollars of their money into the lighthouse
diversified fund. They also have about half a million dollars in
mineral rights under the investments and securities part
of their form. That's okay as it makes sense for them to invest.
But the the lighthouse fund is very funny that they would do
that because it is formerly the Monroe partners. All of the
former Monroe partners are in there. And if you look at who
Monroe was one row trout Jr. who I believe has passed on now but
he was a complete iron Rand objectivism fan is pretty much
the opposite of what of I think what the AAUW would want to be
or want to be known as very interesting to see where they're
putting their money, but the way they spend it, and you tell me
if this makes any sense to you, John, here we go. So fundraising
activity, they have a 123 they have one fundraising consultant
in Arlington, Virginia and they spent $174,665 And that resulted
in zero gross receipts from the activities that just a
consultant. Then they had telemarketing membership
development from Gordon and Schwenke Meyer Inc. in El
Segundo, El Segundo, California, they raised $78,611 And they
paid for that fundraising derive $76,604 of net result.
$2,000 $2,007 This seems like a, like a bad deal. Yeah. I mean,
how does that work?
They didn't work out. Well, here's
another one. comnet marketing in Medford, Oregon. gross receipts
from activity 42,765 They paid to the fundraiser this marketing
group 46,491 They lost $3,726 on the deal. How does? How does
that work? So they raised people send money $46,000 was sent in.
Yeah. And then the guys who made the call took all of it. Yeah.
Well, how does
pretty common, by the way in boiler rooms? Well, they were
hoping they, you know, they haven't developed a pitch. They
went to the boiler room company that these marketers that
telemarketers, and they went back and forth with what can you
what can you do for me? Well, we can make in the boiler room,
guys, as usual, would promise the moon and deliver nothing
I see differently. I see it as these guys have a Rolodex. And
they're going to call someone outside of their activity. And
here's my bill, it's $76,000 and we'll raise some money for you.
But really, we're just taking your money for you getting
access to the $10 million you did receive because if you look
at the total gross receipts for their name, and for their
fundraising activities as listed on their tax form, they raised
160,325 And they paid out to the very people who raised this
$160,000 343,831 and net loss of $183,506 I'm saying maybe you
shouldn't fundraise
Well, the argument against that is you get your name out there
and it's like it's like brand advertising where you just put
the brand name on I just
like to know where the other nine and a half million dollars
came from. They don't care
if came from the direct sales I mean that's where you get direct
direct sales
yes direct sales is what it amounts to is where they go to
you go to the found various foundations that dole out money,
we talk about them all the time. We have probably if we had our
own we if we started making a Rolodex we'd have a big one. And
we talked about them all the time on the show and you go to
them directly and they give you their here's a check for 100,000
Here's a check for right okay, we were like What are you doing?
Here's a check for 250 Those are the big big money that's the big
money and then the little money which is they're trying to they
can't seem to get it because I didn't know their pitches no
good. I more inclined to think that their pitch sucks.
Well, anyway, and results. I would implore the women and the
feminist movement and i can't i i believe i am a feminist I am
very what
the wise bullcrap. That's bull crap. I'm a feminist. I'm a
lesbian. I see guys do this all the time. It's just a kiss ass
commentary. Go on. Sorry, I just bugs me when somebody says
they're a feminist and they're a guy. It's for women only. It's a
women's only club. Hello.
Well, what can I call myself? I'm a I'm a promoter of women.
Sympathetic, maybe is sympathetic to the feminist
movement. That's fine.
Okay. I am sympathetic to the feminist movement. Okay, that's
good. That's like that and I want you to be aware that you're
being duped by a bunch of people who only want you to vote
Democrat for their own good they do not care about you
road you know we have we this is a common theme I think we could
probably do half of our stuff is just you're being duped or
trying to screw women into voting Democrat and it's
working.
And yes, the Republicans are stupid. They don't know how to
do this. They're completely dumb.
They're flat footed. I don't think they're stupid. I think
one I think there's a couple of things going on one I don't
think they're noticing. That's even worse. naive. I don't think
there's literally stupid I think they're naive. They're not
noticing. And and the site and the activist and the Republican
side, which I would include people like Oh, Riley Yeah, he's
a Democrat. Let's say he Johnny Limbaugh, and Sean Hannity and
Lynn bar, good examples. They are clueless. And they're
leading in there and they're also I don't know, there's a
bunch of things I listen to these guys and I'm always
thinking that they're so they're kind of arrogant about it to a
point to a point which is also I think, annoying to women.
Because arrogant men are not well received, it's been, I
think I think I'm right on that. Yeah, I don't know. All I know
is that there'll be left and right. Every time you turn
around the Republicans expect to take the Senate in this next
election. I don't think they're going to do it. Everybody says
they're going to do it, I don't see it. So things are gonna get
sideswiped once again, because they don't know what's going on
in the culture.
So I would just say, to just to wrap this up, that I I saw the
video with Ray Rice date. And I was shocked, shocked. I I've
never hit a woman. I know what it's like to be hit in the face.
I've not I've not been knocked out. But I certainly saw stars
like in the cartoons. And and that that has just been papered
over. And that there is just no absolute outrage about that yet.
Let's go after the equal pay, you know, when the atrocities
against women are so rampant across the world, and you know,
it has to be it has to be for everything. It can't just be I
don't want to just yelling about the pay gap.
I don't want to sound racist here. But there is an overriding
assumption that black people are Democrats and so this issue with
this black guy punching out a black woman should not be
brought to the fore because it would not help the cause of
getting women to vote Democrat. Yeah. So they're never come up
in the conversation.
Not that we're gonna fix this but uh, but I did want to at
least play Milton Friedman. I want people to hear these two
women having this conversation because the the actual, I have
not seen the text of the bill, but the actual bill seems like
it would not help women and the narrative that is being
presented by people like Sarah Silverman, and although it's
funny, you know, vagina attacks,
ha ha ha.
It is not, it does not appear that the solution is going to
help you. And if anything, you are being manipulated, duped,
duped, duped into something that may not be advantageous to you.
And that's it.
I think you've made your point.
I think I have to, and I just
don't make it again, ever again. To show my school by donate to
no agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh,
yeah, that'd be fun.
I just want to make sure that this was a long conversation
that was very, you know, when men and women these
conversations are going to be held and I think that everyone
deserves a little extra information that you're not
getting on. I don't know. What the fuck do I know? I'm just
saying this is some information you might want to have. Do you?
Did you get it? Who won the argument? Okay, you had you mark
who else was at this little dinner? Just you and Mark and
Mickey at our house? And who else? No one? Oh Mark came over
as a solo. Maybe it's expecting like a threesome or some? Asking
I'm just I didn't
I didn't cross my mind. I'll talk to him about it. You're
going to Panama with the three of us on a sailboat. Now I'm not
worried.
To introduce you to a sailboat. We're going to put this side
where that may get let's make our own someplace new. Hello,
Natalie Wood. He went he was angry. He left in the rowboat.
And we never heard from him again.
Because I did yeah. That's
he's a lawyer but our friend Mark so he's, he's a lawyer. I'm
all All I want is when I see what's going on in the news and
what is what laws are being presented. And you know, I hear
the messages being propagated it because it's very compelling.
Yeah, Sarah Silverman says it's a very compelling message.
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that's the plus side but just having
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No threesome. No threesome?
Yeah, that will be on the boat. Sir. Boat.
We're going to we're going to the indigenous people of Panama
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once you take it. Take what you want. You wanna take the train
or go through Mexico or somewhere and get a lot of
photos you can only
get there by by boat. You can't get to these places any other
way.
You can take the Panama that Trent that highway that goes all
the way down to South America. These
are islands John,
are you going to Island
yeah there's a whole separate state their own state lies
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there was it's been interesting to this Ebola thing is just it's
so out of control.
I got no Ebola clips.
I have Do I have any but I think I do actually just it's this is
so Oh out of control. What do I have here? I have Yes, this is a
woman from the World Health Organization, Dr. Eileen Marty,
and she was interviewed for I don't think this was a TV show.
This was some web thing like vise or Vox or whatever it is.
And she has come back from West Africa. I do have a boy even get
into that. I have a question. You know, they always say this
thing has no borders. Ebola knows no borders. Strangely
enough, it's in Nigeria, which is pretty much not West Africa.
So it didn't know how to jump into that border. But if you
look at the most recent news from this week, Cote d'Ivoire,
the Ivory Coast has now resumed its flights to countries struck
by the Ebola virus. Now the Ivory Coast went through its
little issues a year or two ago. And I think we straightened all
of that out. And there's no more political. We fix it. We fix the
Ivory Coast. If you look at the Ebola outbreak, it stops at the
border of the Ivory Coast. Why is it not spilling over into the
Ivory Coast? And why are they resuming their flights back to
their neighboring country where the there are huge outbreaks?
Why would they do that?
Because it's Bogota, that would,
that would be pretty much what I'm thinking. And there's this
map. I think the Guardian has a map. It's in the show notes. I'm
not quite sure who. Where'd this come from. But you can see the
Ivory Coast. It had just has nothing it has no Ebola, but it
neighbors on Sierra Leone. And to where is this? Here it is
distribution map who makes this map when we take a look at this
thing. It says that was CDC, Diego CDC. So we have Guinea,
which has they got a little piece of the action there. Then
Sierra Leone, Liberia, and then it just stops at the border of
Cote d'Ivoire just stops. How is it possible but really
at the border? On this map? It is inside the country that I'm
looking at? It's up against the border. Okay,
let me slip I'm gonna put it into the Skype window right now
you go take a look at this from the CDC. And you tell me that
it's not right up against the border exactly what I'm saying
from the CDC that people who are telling you about this danger,
do you have the link?
I see something beeped at me. And now I gotta find where the
link cropped up. And you know, this is that you really,
yeah, they've changed your experience have upgraded your
experience again on Skype. But there's a little
bit here. I know what to do. I think I think and I got it. I
got it. I got it. I got it. This is
this is 2014 Ebola Ebola outbreak in West Africa.
Ebola,
the outbreak distribution map. Are you telling me that it's not
right up against the border? So what? But that's the point.
Oh, actually, that's not true. Look, there's a little bleed.
That's just because we ever made the math couldn't color inside
the line? No, no,
there's that's not up against the border. There's need Oh, not
a lot, John. There's
not a lot of
George creeping I think that's the impression of trying to give
us that is creeping past the border so they can prove their
point. So your point is null and void.
Okay. All right. Fine. I'm null and void. Draw your mind is not
you Dr. Marty, Dr. Aileen Marty, who just came back from from
Nigeria even says that she's baffled the whole world health
organization is baffled how this can happen. She does have some
answers to it. But she starts off with the way to shake hands
in, in Africa. What is bump? Not even it's the Bluetooth. So
firstly, and so of course this is visual
first when they're selling phones now is that the idea is
behind the whole thing. Wait until you hear it. Some phones
are
first you touch elbows. What kind of elbow what is the your
forearm you touch four arms. Then you do the Bluetooth which
is a fist bump that doesn't touch. But also a kissing on the
cheek would be even less dangerous. Just listen to this
very interesting, very interesting what
we were doing in Africa and that I found that what we were doing
in Africa was extremely effective as a public health
measure not just for Ebola, but for many many other diseases
that we're communicating to each other all the time. Get ready
for this is going to be this is the President we'll be doing
this pretty soon with Michelle the Bluetooth How do you show
me how are you
sure it's just this like that? Yes, it's very friendly. You
know, actually Yeah, pushing you know it's actually very
intimate. We do this
touching elbows very intimate this touching you
should just do a little a simple wave or do a hip thrust. I think
that's read each other from now on.
They do the blue.
I would just winking a girl's a no.
No, you don't touch it. Don't touch. We didn't touch
Bluetooth. Just like that. Yeah, exactly.
And do you think it's gonna be gone cool in the United States?
Sure. Hope so. It would be great. It would be great to
switch from the handshake. Into in which
we've been doing for 1000s of years, 1000s of years,
something that is going to reduce all kinds of infectious
diseases. Common kissing,
no kissing like we're doing in our community. Well,
I love kissing, don't get me wrong, but a little less. You
know, tongue, you know, when you kiss on the cheek, that's
actually less dangerous than holding hands. Because when you
grab somebody's hand, your fingers are likely to touch
mucous membranes that you can from which you can bring in
organisms when you're
talking to people and, and they get close to you and they want
to shake hands to you sort of move back Do they say, Oh, this
doctor is too rude. Back.
What? Back off Dracula?
I think well, I just tell them why I'm doing it. And I laugh
and and I explain what's going on. And most people understand.
I think you're right. I think that your idea of a hip thrust
is much more fun.
Yeah. Now, it would be universal. Everyone could do it,
that everyone knows how to do it.
You thrust your pace at a pelvic thrust or
you dress like you're doing the old Mondrian hug. You just give
him one of those.
What could you do? Can you also go like James Brown? Oh, yeah,
you
should make the noise hit me two times.
10 educational moment? Yeah, it's an educational
moment. So
you were in Nigeria? You weren't supposed to go to Sierra Leone.
But then you ended up going to Nigeria? Correct. What do you
see in Nigeria?
Now, listen carefully what she's saying, what is the first thing
you'd expect her to say about Nigeria? People bleeding from
the eyeballs, puking dying everywhere? Horrible? No,
she's seeing the Mendes poverty mixed with some areas of wealth.
But the vast majority of the population is incredibly
impoverished. Even in the major cities, there is their open
sewers, a lot of pollution. But I also found a population of
individuals who were extremely eager to assist the
international community in helping to get rid of the
epidemic in Nigeria.
Why did it happen in West Africa?
I wonder with this, these people who were so willing to assist
the international community, were they willing to bring
freedom and democracy to the country as well? Is that part of
what they're so incredibly excited about doing?
Well, I was watching some friends 24 coverage, and it's
really they're more interested in getting a paycheck.
Yeah, that Well, that's it. I also think there's just a elites
who are ready to take over the country. And all of the oil
that's taken over
the country, I don't think they I think we need to maintain cozy
up to maintain what's happened. Nobody
knows why Ebola ended up in this outbreak in West Africa. No one
knows how to how it got to Guinea because it's never been
there before. Not discussed a lot. Now one reason that has
been thrown out there as a possibility. And it's it's real
risk in that Chase.
Exactly. Right. You know why we know how the bats this? I never
heard this warming. That was That would really put the cherry
on top of it. But no.
There's bushmeat involved one of one of the problem.
And let me tell you, whenever this bushmeat I'm right at the
front of the line, ladies and gentlemen,
is that animals can get sick with Ebola. And there's a
tremendous desire to eat for example, bats. They think that
meat is delicious.
Did not we have bats all over Austin, we are going to die
have the bat restaurant you know you can make your money and make
your millions by opening the bat restaurant in Santa in Austin.
It's the bat bushmeat restaurant as far as bat bushmeat
restaurant but once again your proprietor Adam curry. Somehow
were able to blame it on bush. It's amazing how they do this.
I did it twice. No, no,
no and I'm not that brave. But so bad meat. So if someone
transported an infected animal and that and it's not the the
Carterville the carcass is a danger until it's cooked. So
uncooked carcass of an infected animal. Don't lick it from, say
somewhere in the Congo where this has been described.
This is ridiculous. If is tall. It's absolutely ridiculous not
only have their own logo, bushmeat,
bushmeat, he said bushmeat, it's
mostly monkeys, by the way that's bushmeat. They don't I
don't know, I never heard of him eating
bats. So for all of the smartness that I heard from
producer Mark yesterday before he left, he said, I don't
understand. I'm so worried about Ebola. And Mark, are you? You
get when's the last time you listened to our show? Yeah, it's
been it's been a little while. I said, dude, you've been you've
been propagandize and I explained the whole Smith month
act, and he was pretty blown away by that, of course. I said,
have you seen one person one? One person bleeding from the
eyeballs with with blisters puking on camera? No. Have you
seen more than five people in in rain slickers with ski goggles?
No. Where is the epidemic? All I see is people who have at
getting out of ambulances on their own power. I see a so
called children with Ebola walking around and laying down
for the camera. It's crazy,
you know, the one untold story, which is nobody's picking you up
on our media. But I ran into it on on France 24. Again, is that
the Russians, who probably realized that this is a
weaponized agent, long ago, they have three vaccines are ready to
roll out. Really? I didn't know that. Yes. Russian Ebola
vaccines? Or Ebola?
Ebola? Where's where's our Ebola chick? Almost a second.
Ebola? Ebola?
Both good questions. And at the State Department briefing.
Unfortunately, it's not the Matt and Marie show. Jen is back. Oh,
app. Sakis no fun. But she can.
Yeah, I agree.
And man and Matt also, you know, he other guys are picking up the
slack now. You know, matches pile jumping. He's not even
starting stuff off. But this was a good question that she can't
answer and she she got kind of testy about it. He's lovesick?
Is lovesick a question about Ebola policy. Yesterday,
Secretary Kerry said that the US would like to see airlines
continue to fly in and out of the three countries in Africa
that have been stricken by the virus, my borders to remain
open. At the same time, Dr. Thomas Friedman, the Director of
the CDC said that about 150 people per day are entering the
United States from those countries from the policy going
forward is to check in when they arrive, to see if they're
asymptomatic, and to question them to see whether they'll
admit that they had contact with someone with Ebola. If they're
asymptomatic, and they didn't, they don't see the eye contact,
then there'll be allowed into the country. And of course, mr.
Duncan did not admit to having contact with a person with Ebola
and he was asymptomatic when he arrived, Dr. Friedens
explanation that policies seem to be a sort of cost benefit
analysis that the American people were getting a greater
benefit, both in financial terms and also in terms of our ability
to fight the virus. Do you have a question? Yeah.
Oh, boy, fax are annoying, aren't they? Gen.
virus at its source than the price that we might pay by
letting people into this country without going through incubation
period from those countries where people are suffering from
Ebola? So my question for the State Department is what?
Who is this idiot?
He's just the one of the press corps Don't worry, it's, he's
his question is valid. He saying, What good is this? If
you have 150 people a day coming in? I don't think there's any
direct flights by the way from these countries. But okay,
coming in, shouldn't you just quarantine them all? If we're
that worried about it, if look at all the fear, you should
quarantine them because you can't trust them to tell the
truth. If you have global entry, you're just passing right
through? This is a very valid question for those of us who
have been scared into believing the bullcrap,
when measured in terms of American lives that might be
affected by this American lives lost or permanently altered bank
lost or created Ebola. Is there a point at which that cost
benefit analysis tips? It would be seen as a mistake to have led
people to travel here without a quarantine period? Is it is it
one American contracting Ebola? Is it five? Is it 10?
This is a very good question. So since we're not doing
quarantine, we're not really shoring everything out. But just
you know, scaring people by showing you pictures of of
pointing a gun thermometer at your head, okay, you're good to
go. Or we trust you. Because it's not true. All of this is
just, it's just not true. I'm just not believing it. He's
saying, Yeah, so what is it five Americans that die because of
these, these policies not being airtight? It's a valid question.
At what point would the policy have to be re examined and seen
as improvement?
Well, one I think what you're referring to in part is some of
the new and announcements that were made by the White House
are, are in the process of being made about measures that are
being put into place to screen, over 94% of passengers.
94%. That doesn't sound like enough.
Arriving from Ebola affected Western African countries, we
continue to take steps and evaluate what steps that can be
taken to, of course, not only protect American citizens, but
continue to treat, do everything we can to address this outbreak.
And I would also note that Dr. Frieden has also made comments
that by isolating these countries, it would make it
harder to help them it will spread more there and we'd be
likely to be exposed more here. So there are reasons for finding
ways to address
don't I'm gonna do I'm gonna get me one of those. They're not
hazmat suits that just like Breaking Bad you can just get
one of these blue. I'm just gonna just go shopping in the
heb with it.
Yeah, I think it would be very
cool to see what how people respond. Well, you know, I
told my story before about a person that had the mask on it
on Southwest.
We fly Mickey and I are both going to be in the suits. We're
just gonna fly that but what's your problem? I'm afraid of
Ebola
ield get thrown off the flight
I don't know about that.
I do know about that. You will be why because I wanted to
protect myself summit passenger will some passengers will object
to you being on the flight like that and you'll be thrown off
can what can you buy these? I'm sure that they have them on
eBay. Don't think the real hazmat suits No, no, I want the
fake ones that those guys
that's just a raincoat. Goggles,
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this looks dynamite the guy has He's holding a sign a traffic
sign that says slow. This is pretty interesting. You can also
get it in gray this is not this is a pretty good deal.
Oh I liked the guy holding the sign that says slow
and you can get the three M full facepiece reusable respirator.
This isn't that I'm doing this. I am going to I'm going to try
it first at HEB I'm just going to walk around
the farmers market
the fun Delta the last anatomy they'll get the joke farmer look
at the pictures on the site listed this is a dynamite
outfit.
I don't like it as much as the ones they're using with it with
the underwater goggles.
Well that's not underwater goes the ski goggles it's the unit
ski goggles
those
yeah but you want to have the big giant this
is actually looks like it'd be useful
might actually work well on that note the
here's your problem. Here's your problem. They have the booties
go. The plastic goes over the shoe so that you walk around
just for a few minutes and you're gonna wear a hole into
the bottom right? You got to find something that's more like
the ones that you don't have to worry about that you have boots
on. Oh actually you could put the boots okay it looks like you
the thing is got a yeah you they are wearing
Tyvek I haven't here that's the brand I'm looking at the
it has got a pant leg so you can put a shoe under it. Yeah, you
don't need that yellow stuff on the foot.
Now check this out. US AI D has done a crowdsource initiative.
Let me find the I went to
a funding operation USA ID because you don't have enough
money.
At Grand Challenge for Development. Here it is us AI
the Ebola virus has infected 1000s of people in West Africa.
The alert has been sounded by governments of Guinea, Liberia,
Sierra Leone, Sierra Leone, not not the Ivory Coast. And the
world is scrambling to respond to curtail further suffering and
bring this epidemic under control. As President Obama said
yesterday, the United Nations Ebola is a terrific disease,
blah, blah, blah. In response to this challenge, every day in
hot, humid, extremely difficult environments. Healthcare workers
and Ebola affected countries are performing critical tasks that
save lives and prevent the spread of the virus. Personal
Protective Equipment, which is known as PPE, offers critical
protection but also is the greatest source of discomfort
and stress for the workers. While PPE is protect health care
workers, they cannot be worn for more than 40 minutes in hot
climates, severely limiting the Time healthcare workers can care
for their patients in response to this challenge, and the
unprecedented Ebola outbreak really, USA ID is partnering
with the White House Office of Science and Technology, the
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention other US agencies and
the government of Sweden to lock them maybe it's Tyvek from
Sweden, no budget is no it's from DuPont and the government
of Sweden to launch fighting Ebola a Grand Challenge for
Development to help help health care workers on the frontlines,
provide better care and stop the spread of Ebola. And they're
asking it to come up with a better hazmat suits and the
prize is $1 million HMM INTERESTING. That's
what this is all about from the get go.
Why Sweden though? Why Sweden? Why would the government of
Sweden care say that interesting? And there's
guidelines kind of interesting those guidelines for the
challenge here and we can see if we can participate Okay, Baba.
Know this is just a guy you can't be a you can't be an
employee. Okay. It's like a contest. A strange, but I think
one of these hazmat suits I think that's that's I think
that's the deal. Mickey has one What am I talking about? She's
got a blue one.
What is it for where she get it? What's going on over there?
We're in we're in Austin. She has what she uses for prefer a
spray painting project. Yes, I can use hers guys paint all over
it. No, it's and it's blue. Oh, this is great. I am so going to
try this at the heb let's see how people respond. Just driving
around just going to the drive thru at the bank. Hey I want to
deposit a check
nobody thinks you're crackpot enough. Okay. Anyway, I get this
breaking sir. I want you to tell me what the deal is. A nurse. A
nurse has
just contracted Ebola in Dallas.
Oh, breaking news is that right?
That's what I just want the CNN is saying to me right now. I'm
afraid
they didn't get it. Where are those uniforms for ISIS
terrorists arrested in Texas and last 36 hours?
Oh no. i How could I have missed this? Oh, what were they
doing your show watch Islamic terrorists have entered the
United States or the Mexican border and Homeland Security
Sources tell Judicial Watch that four have been apprehended in
the last 36 hours by federal authorities and the Texas
Department of Public Safety in McAllen and and far
this is good caliphate. Excellent. We are rocking the
caliphate in Texas everybody Nice.
Soldiers officials said they had picked up radio talk and chatter
indicating that the terrorist groups are trying to carry out
an attack on the border.
I got a tweet from someone who says you know you guys just make
fun of all this. But you wait, you wait until ISIS is here. You
wait to be talking. You wait until you
have the show. Apparently, and he believes a crap and you play
down a bola. Will you just wait now Okay, I'll wait. more chance
of being killed just driving to the store before I'd have to
even put my suit on.
Just wait, just wait. Those ISIS guys are coming over. Although
the big push now is to take ISIS off the table and run this phony
baloney chorus and group.
Do you see this really happening this? That seems to be more and
more of a push towards that? Which is?
Yeah, they wanted to do they do what they want to do an event in
the United States, our government probably Who else
wants to do an event and they're gonna blame it on somebody and
they and the way things are going they don't want to blame
it on ISIS, or ISIL. Right? So they have to find somebody to
blame it on. They got the horrors, the horizontal core
horizontal operation has all these elements where they say,
Well, they've already got a plan in place is there we've known
fact, and all these things. So something's going to happen and
it's going to be blamed on these guys, but not ISIL because for
some reason we want ISIL to keep doing what it's doing, I think
which has probably something to do with the overthrow of Assad.
Well, that's I think that's that's the overall analysis is
that has to happen. But now we know we've had the the the F 20
twos were striking Syria because we saw all kinds of cool footage
of it of the planes not really doing anything. It's just a it's
just a stock footage. Did you see what we sold to Saudi Arabia
and United Arab Emirates
another beauty With wholesale to sales
actually I have it here we have number one when you do this you
have to apply for a permit you can't just here it is the it's
the arms export control act $1.25 billion and that includes
a $500 million of other I love that so this has guided enhance
missile Patriot to flight test target Patriot as target also
included pack three telemetry kits, Patriot automated
logistics systems what are you gonna do with this? So that's
1.7 5 billion and then which is what a lot of this is about this
which I thought I think I saw I didn't get a clip Panetta said
somewhere that this look this will be a 30 year war against
ISIS. Yeah, and here is to the unary years
of more arms sales to the boneheads in the Middle East
here's the United Arab Emirates which it knows that Dubai and
those guys are they in yes
Dubai. There's a bunch of them Dubai his domain was his bad
chat who always is scouring the Federal Register for us. Let's
see transmittal 14 for notice of proposed issuance Here we go.
High Mobility Artillery Artillery Rocket systems
launchers How much is this for? This is for $900 million. Man as
cheap could have made a million at this is 400 million of this
is great. It's 900 Total 400 million is for major defense
equipment. And 500 million the majority is for other other is
and that's a so what do we have there? We have almost $3 billion
of sales could work everybody which is yeah, this is what a
lot of what this is about.
Mmm hmm. So I will get shot this piece. I think this was 25
minutes while you're watching that this week. This the clip
Kurdish anger now this is you're talking about them blowing up
that little city up at the top of
Barney which is just a reason to draw turkey into it.
Well or something but one thing they're doing if you listen to
these guys, they're they're turning they're trying to make
the Kurds. The Kurds are like part of the big piece of this
puzzle. I think they're trying to get down here. We've already
discussed this because of the oil by the
way, who is big friends with the Kurds? Fatah patella Gulin
Oh, interesting. Let me play this and we get clarities.
He's the secretary of
state supports the extremist Islamists by giving them weapons
to the Turkish state think you can get rid of the Kurds. But
they'll never defeat us just because this what they think of
us the Kurds they've destroyed this town. What isn't this a
shady because the
helicopters keep watch from above. On the ground armored
personnel carriers patrol the streets for much of the week.
The security Crackdown is aimed at putting a lid on the unrest
in response to the Kurdish population has changed tack the
protests now smaller and more mobile to avoid major
confrontation. Here is nightfalls. A raucous din rings
out the Kurdish anger that's close to boiling over.
What's your take on this?
God is they've got it set up. So the Kurds are blaming the Turks
for everything?
Uh huh. There's the golden connection.
Yeah. It's gonna be interesting to see how this plays out.
Because we're not getting that sort of perspective in this
country. I know. And I don't know how many Europeans are but
just the French is they they're the ones that did this report.
But I thought that was kind of interesting.
I'm thinking that. So the way I see a Kobani is the idea is to
draw the Turks in the Turks don't want to do this. And
they're in NATO countries. And then you get Article Five and
all this stuff, and then a whole bunch of other things get
triggered. And you know, this is on it's been on the verge of
falling for what, two weeks now. And it's just not happening
because the Turks are just not taking the bait and they're not
jumping in to go do something because once you do that, I
think once they take up arms against the what is happening, I
think that's when all hell breaks loose. That's the What
else could it be make? Well, besides that there's a pipeline
running right through it, which is minor minor. Remind everyone
on CNN, this town has no strategic importance at all.
But we've checked we've taken a couple of runs at the Turks we
did you know at that park, that there's all the protest and that
looks like that was gonna work and that didn't work. And now I
think that we've given up on doing any internal stuff because
we don't have the skill set for the Turks specifically or Are
things aren't that bad that people really are upset like we
could get the Ukrainians to do our bidding to we can't do it
the Turks so now I think we've turned it over the Kurds in just
inciting them let them go in there we'll give them weapons.
This would make sense at this very moment we have this
documentary coming out
right the good dude yeah, that blow job documentary
hagiography I think is what you would call it but blow job
documentary works for me.
That's what using the media, the news business sheet that's what
it's called? A BJ doc. It's gonna be you know, if an article
is written that's just a puff piece about somebody as commonly
referred to in the business as a blow job.
Here on CNN and watching we have helicopters flying over the TED
the live flying over the hospital in Dallas. And this the
lower third is containing the first Ebola outbreak. And
because this nurse has Ebola, Mickey, if you're listening,
because you please put on your suit and I can take a picture
and when just tweeted that, you know, don't worry, friends and
family. We're safe. This is insane. People are just being
made crazy. This is the number one thing that's making people
crazy now.
Yeah, yeah. Hear about it. Ebola.
The Snowden documentary was screened in New York. This I
don't know anything about this at all.
Yes, citizen for it. I have a little trailer if you want it.
This is the Laura Poitras documentary, and I do want to
discuss some of it. The main thing is this documentary was
made a two hour documentary, which I think is too long for
any documentary. Certainly,
no longer than 90 minutes.
Right. And his girlfriend is apparently living with him now.
Yes, the
story is that she's the stripper girlfriend pole dancer who was
kind of left out of the picture.
No one ever went to find her.
Nobody decided to interview her because it wasn't part of the
the friends or her family or parents are living in Malibu or
something. And then she was blue. She was reassigned Moscow
by whoever's her handler and now she went and they're
living in so all of the shots all the PR shots I'll call them
Snowden is wearing his glasses with the missing nose pad. We
know that when he's been he's being looked at candidly he
doesn't know where his glasses when he's out in Moscow and
someone gets a shot of him. It's always without his glasses. This
is brand Snowden that he is propagating. And here is the bit
of the trailer from the movie. Very cyber at
this stage, I can offer nothing more than my word. I'm a senior
government employee in the intelligence community. I hope
you understand that contacting you with extremely high risk for
now know that everybody cross every purchase you make, every
call you dial, every cell phone tower you pass friend you keep
site you visit and subject when you type is in the hands of a
system whose reaches unlimited. If you publish the source
material, I will likely be immediately implicated. I ask
only that you ensure this information makes it home to the
American public. And be careful citizen for
submission for. Okay, I work for
this is the first meeting with Greg Greenwald and Poitras in
Hong Kong. This music is drama, ma'am. Is drama, come on. Drama,
unlimited, but who safeguards are not. In the end, if you
publish the source material, I will likely be immediately
implicated. I ask only that you ensure this information makes it
home to the American public. Thank you and be careful.
Citizen for anything about you. Okay. I work for Sorry. Hi. My
name is Edward Snowden. I go ahead. Edward Joseph Snowden is
the full name
you're ruining.
That's not possible.
Very interesting. This movie now this was bankrolled sounds
horrible bankrolled by my Participant Media, which is of
course Jeff Skoll S K O L L. To be discussed in a moment.
Executive producers. Two of them are the big kahuna is at HBO And
then there's Steven Soderbergh who Oh brother. Why do you say
this? Because why? He's a hack. Explain.
I'm just saying Look at what he's done. He does propaganda
films when he does anything outside of the actual fiction of
us look at what he's done and then even with fiction I think
he did probably just propaganda. Well, let's
take a look into his your that's your quite an accusation there.
Well, maybe I'm wrong. Let's take a look.
Let's take a look. And the way we look is
so the first thing he did was a full length concert for the
band. Yes. Okay, films such as Kafka king of the hill, the
underneath Grey's Anatomy, sex lies and videotape tape, or Erin
Brockovich. Yeah, traffic. What else then? where's the where's
the hack?
Erin Brockovich,
that was a that would I agree with that? The more interesting
name that I found on this executive producer list was
Tom epic thriller Contagion. Another one. Oh, yeah. Tom
Quinn, and the Hunger Games.
Is that also Soderbergh? Yeah. Yeah, he's propagandists. I like
Tom Quinn, because Tom Quinn is really known for all of the
little video vignettes that they play on the Oscars for the
nominees. But if you look at his credits, it's the Oscar
nominated short films, animation Oscar nominated short films
documentary, Oscar nominated short films, live action, Oscar
nominated short films animation. So it's very smart to have the
guy who puts together the packages for the nominees for
the Academy Awards to be one of the executive producers. I think
that's that way if you get a nominee, a nomination and then
he might, he might spice it up a bit. Make it look better.
Works with Clooney a lot and Matt Damon.
So the here's my question to you, Jeff skull. Why does he get
such a pass in this? Whereas, well, we have been vilifying
Pierre omnicar. drive my car.
No, you mostly
and I believe rightly so. As he spelled skull. S co l es como es
que es como es call es que K O L L he.
He word we need to put them on our list of guys to vilify? Yes,
because he was an eBay. We lived in Woodside For God's sake, eBay
and PayPal. So he is he is partners with other guy media.
Yes. And a lot of his money is still tied up in eBay slash
PayPal. And so he's, you know, he should also be on the
chopping block for the WikiLeaks shut down of PayPal. But He now
gets to be Mr. Hero. And he of course, also the Al Gore's
Inconvenient Truth and all these other great movies, which if you
guys are getting some kind of free pass where I think he's,
you know, I know it's brought us but he's, he's a low profile.
That's the reason I believe. I mean, you have these other you
have the Elon Musk Peter Thiel, this guy and whole mudhar to
this four guys that came out of that thing. And they're all
going in different directions, doing their own thing in some
way, shape or form.
But this is very close to immediately because Poitras
works for a media and he's falling financing the portrait
movie. I find the whole thing to be.
He has the runs the Skoll Foundation, which he gave me
became a billionaire because of eBay. So he gave it all to
himself in the Skoll Foundation as though it's like some sort of
a donation, foundation support social entrepreneurship,
sculptures to foundation and today makes grants in excess of
80 million per year the Skoll Foundation. Also Ron rank is the
largest foundation for social entrepreneurship in the world.
Five 30 million to the Alliance for Climate Protection campaign,
so he's a climate guy. Or that group. He,
he did did Inconvenient Truth. He's a big climate guy. Yeah.
Producers Guild of American Visionary Award. He won that in
2009. Time magazine. He got the 100 people of the year 2006
Wired Magazine rave award, National Leadership Award for
the Commonwealth Club and Silicon Valley. The outstanding
fillet is escaping wins a lot of awards. Yeah, its goal is to
convey Bucha music is a lot of money away. skull was the
commencement speaker and just awarded the Honorary Doctor of
Law degrees from the University of Toronto. What's the best you
can do there?
Well, when I look at Brands, no, I
mean, yes, the Gandy project.
When I look at Brands Snowden, who showed up on yet another,
you know, some conference and it this is like, does anyone have
any new ideas? It's like, oh, and now we have Ed Snowden via
Google Hangout from Moscow and he's there saying you should use
Blackboard you should really use red circle he's telling us all
these products we should be using. I don't think he
shouldn't be telling us what to use at all. I think he should be
telling us not to use anything.
Yeah, that would be better.
No, I just got a something foreign global intelligence
networking on this almost like maybe BBB BBB BBB on me see,
what do we have? We have he copied the message. In the email
from the movie Star Wars. Here's the relevant clip
what I have to look into it seems that what the message that
Snowden sent to portress was
helped me Wan Kenobi.
You Yes. Look, I gotta look into that. I love stuff like that. I
just don't like the brand Snowden anymore. It just it
doesn't feel good. Oh, was
influenced by authors such as Anne Rand. And now the one Yeah.
II intended to becoming by iron Rand. He intended to become an
author writing motivational books on tackling the world's
problems. So he was always in that mode where he has money is
dangerous.
Then where's our Skoll Foundation? Grant?
Well, we're kind of the anti Skoll Foundation grants. What we
need is like all in on all this stuff is worth the 3.8 billion.
I have a funny, same dead eyes looked at it all these other
guys have.
I have I have a funny carry climate denier clip? If you want
to hear that.
Yeah, why not? It's a good one, though. They're always good. If
it comes from carry.
I just say to all of you here that. People need to feel the
pressure from you. You don't know what politics is about?
This is a big climate conference. I'm not in it now.
But I'm What do you mean, you're not in it? I'm not in politics
is what I guess what he's trying to say, all right, watermelon
dependent on it, to help make the right decisions, so that we
move in the right direction. A clean energy future is not a
fantasy. Changing course and avoiding the worst impacts of
climate change is not a fantasy, and supporting healthier
communities and ecosystems and driving economic growth and job
creation. None of that is a fantasy. And for those people
who still stand in the way, for those people who even still
today want to try to question whether or not their science is
effective or not. I
just want to say, for in case people wondered this program,
powered by science,
just ask you ask a simple question. If we're wrong about
this future, what's the worst that could happen as for making
these choices?
If he's wrong? What's the worst that could happen? For making
these choices?
Will you waste a lot of money? bamboozle a lot of people
disturb probably people that are already unstable. There's a lot
that could go wrong.
could happen to us as we create a whole lot of new jobs and kick
our economies. We have healthier people healthier children
because we have cleaner air. We live up to our environmental
responsibility. We become truly energy independent, and our
security is stronger and greater and sustainable as a result.
I'm Darren I'm in
you know when he talks about his holdings about carbon dioxide
that really doesn't. The air quality is not is not hurt by
carbon dioxide,
carbon pollution. John, you're not saying it right, by the way.
So I'm flying in from Los Angeles. And there is I'm
looking down to Salt Flats. I don't see any evidence of this
rising tide I'm looking at today. There's a mud flats
around here. They're the same mud flats I saw 30 years ago.
They don't see any evidence of anything else going on.
As far as I'm concerned, you have no water you I mean, are
you drinking your own urine there in California at this
point,
there's water, which is not much of it. It's not as bad as it was
some years and years ago when they had to run a pipeline
across sand refill bridge. And when they did
that again, I think they just did that and then just open that
up again.
No, there's no pipeline there just drove across the thing the
other day. While you're on the subject of these,
I want you hohoho Don't you want to hear what happens if the
climate deniers are wrong? Oh, I
thought he was done. Now.
If all right, the pro climate lay it out
that's the worst that happens to us. What happens if they're
wrong?
What happens if they're wrong John? What's gonna happen? What
do you think will happen? If they are if the climate deniers
are climate changing? manmade climate change change deniers
are wrong
then what what do you think?
Oh, we're all doomed if they're wrong
catastrophe life as you know what on earth and oh man
life as you know what on earth and I think we need to accompany
in John on let's do a little accompaniment here. Okay, I'm
now getting ready right?
Catastrophe life as you know what on earth and seven degrees
increase? Fahrenheit and we can't sustain crops water life
under those circumstances.
No life. No life. We're gonna die. When people die,
we're all gonna die.
Let me ask a question here. Hey, if we're wrong does life stop as
we know it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, we all gonna die. Yeah, yeah. I
love that guy. He's my favorite guy in the world. I'm gonna show
my
son moved by Jonah to no agenda. Imagine all the people who could
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birthday so
Morris consulting loss of wages Nevada $50 Paul groves in lunga
Radha Victoria, another Australian deputy Yakko Yaqoob
watch shack in North Vancouver BC I think I got that close and
Tonio McMullen. $50 Parts Unknown Paul Vela and Milton
Keynes UK 50 always count on on Paul. Sir Mark Tanner. And is he
Sir Paul Vela? I think so. Yeah, Sir Mark Tanner, Whittier,
California and finally Jason. The luzio in Gaddis, furred
Pennsylvania, I want to thank these folks and everybody who,
for those
folks, I wanted to I wanted to read
one little email and also thank everyone who contributed to
lesser lesser amounts in the I just
got an email from Neil. He says, For what it's worth, I'm now on
the $5 a month program, it is truly about the least I could
do. I think he means the best he could do. But okay. Of course, I
wanted to make some grand gesture and dreamed of the day
where I could be an instant night or at least Associate
Executive Producer. Have you read my clever note on the show
and play seven jingles. However, it slowly dawned on me that
those are the things I want, not the things that you need. I've
been listening since about episode 81. It was trivial to go
back and listen to the archives and have yet to give a dime I am
ashamed of that value for value. Even though I'm not sure at this
point, I could ever adequately compensate the both of you for
all the value you've given me using that as an excuse to never
donate seems really stupid. Thank you for your courage, but
more importantly, thank you for my courage. And we do that's
what a lot of $5 donors, it's all of it is really highly
appreciated.
But let me read one note too, which is from Chris Perry. And
this was a he I don't know what happened to this donation but it
came through he thinks anonymously was two and $1 So
he's a Associate Executive Producer for show 659 He He says
he edited a short note about comedy to get somewhere else
find a job in California I believe I think it was do I wish
duped retro actively however, as I was terminated from my job
yesterday afternoon, I was thrown under the bus by my
boss's boss to appease a noisy client and my boss decided that
he couldn't justify having me work there. The funny part is I
was a SIS admin engineer but the work they they terminated me for
was entirely not related to systems administration. Sorry I
had to read take care don't let the drought in California Texas
choke you Chris
I'm still dying from Fukushima so you know I don't know Yeah,
we'll add
him to the job karma at the end here that we're gonna get to
Fukushima
you're worried about Ebola? No, man, I'm almost dead from
Fukushima radiation. Why would I?
Why would a radioactive trash is hitting the shores
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had are we giving him his protector? Is that what he's
getting? Might
as well as you in advance.
I mean, he's gonna put it in here and he's and you it was the
Baronet of
golf. Golf golf. Yeah, gold gold.
I don't know if he has to battle with somebody I thought that was
given away.
I don't know if somebody said we have a dispute. We'll resolve it
in the peerage committee meets once a month
under arbitration. Yes. And then we have a black knighting this
does not happen often, but we thanked him profusely for his
contributions on Thursday show and somehow he did tend to not
show up in in the knighting. And now he becomes a black knight
Sir H M F, I see that had MoPhO in charge, he thought it was
quite appropriate that he will become a black knights since he
was the one you'll recall, burned his entire face and hands
and, and was cured. Apparently within within weeks, and so
we're very, very happy for him so and he has a special request
for what he wants present at the round table, which I've written
down. So just grab our blades here and we'll ask you hmm, I
see had Morpho in charge, please step down. Sir. You
are welcome to the round table of the Knights name.
And you are a black knight. So you've got the black armor and
we hereby pronounce the SIR Akena by seeing black knight of
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much for your courage for your consideration for your value for
our value. And and just for being a night and for being
patient. It is highly indeed,
we were planning talking about all the Pay Pal billionaires
that came out of that operation. I've got this clip of a from
France 24 where they have they've talking to a Tesla guy,
and I thought you'd be interested in hearing this.
Okay, hold on a second. Yes, the clip doesn't actually say Tesla
guy, interestingly enough,
a full range of increasingly affordable electric sports cars.
Today I'm joined by John Gillan, Vice President of Worldwide
sales and services. Thank you so much for joining us today. Thank
you for joining us. Thank you.
Thank you for joining. I am part of the Tesla board. Yes, thank
you for joining us. I love it's good to have you here. Yes. It's
good to be here to have you here. Good to have you here. Be
here. Well, thank you both. Oh, yes. Thank you for having us.
Good. Thank you. It's good. Good to have you here. What? And what
was the it was about their new D?
Their nods I don't know what to who cares. I think it was about
their batteries. Whatever the case they do have a clip I want
to play which is the I heard this I don't normally don't
listen to that show on RT that has the financial guy.
Max Max Keiser
Excellent. Good. Oh, Max. And but this one. So I got I've got
this clip on the Scottish poll, Texas this Sunday. So I looked
it up everything they say in this clip is accurate. And it's
I should have sent you the link for the show notes. But they
apparently they're looking, you know, they made everyone in
Scotland vote on the web, they're going to be independent,
and now they're going to ding him for the back taxes.
Reality is trading at a discount.
Now, of course, we came close to a bloodless revolution here in
the United Kingdom with a Scottish referendum. And of
course, they chose to stay dependent on the United Kingdom
on Westminster. Anyway, poll tax returns from dead to haunt
Scottish politics. So all those people who registered to vote
all those new registers to vote in Scotland, put their name on
the poll registers, record amounts, something like 92% of
the population that could vote chose to vote. And what are the
what is Westminster? What are the what is the political elite
doing for even daring to suggest that could be changed for daring
those 45% of the population that had the courage to want change?
Well, they're threatening to bring back their fines of 450
million pounds worth of unpaid poll tax from the Margaret
Thatcher era and 8990 and 91 up in Scotland. Well, that's what
they're being they're being threatened
as retribution. Yeah, for having the temerity to want
independence. They're not gonna give them more devolution power.
They're not gonna give them any nothing. They're gonna take more
because they dare to stand up to the Queen. They're gonna get
raked over the coals. You just like Smithfield markets, going
back hundreds of years, wherever they the king was giving into
the peasants revolt, and they met with a king and he killed
them all.
Well, that's Smithfield market is where William Wallace was.
First he was gutted. He was disassembled and then his legs
and arms torn apart. And then he was hung and his head put on a
pike. So there you have it. That's what's happened to them.
This is what this is what happens when you fail to have
enough courage
to tell a story.
I'm just looking at CNN. And now the lower third is first time
Ebola transmitted in the United States. And I cannot have the
sound of it. I can see the the woman who's who's reading the
prompter. And she has like this, the sad look in her eyes, like
ah
Ebola, or Ebola, the theme song, the song Ebola,
we have it. I just didn't want it. You didn't have any? I
didn't want to overdo it. And we certainly have it or we got the
Ebola. No, we have the Ebola Ricola. We've got that. In Euro
land, similar news to this, the Catalan independence referendum
is coming up, I believe, at the end of this month. Yeah. Now
this is not officially sanctioned by the government is
kind of a protest. It's a Yeah, it's a created situation. That
is not it's not like the one in Scotland word supposedly would
have actually taken place. Well, FC
Barcelona has now saw that they could get thrown out of the
league for this but they all signed supporting the Catalan
independence. Which is that's a big deal when when the soccer
team says yeah, we should. And now I just read this today,
Catalan independence can include Valencia. And how do you
pronounce the bill Eric's this island. So that's Ibiza and all
those islands and, and Formentera and all those
beautiful islands there. And they want to include those in
their independent katalon state I guess good. What am I How will
this work? It won't. But everyone votes? Yes. It's kind
of like Crimea, isn't it?
Well, yeah, but who to who comes running in? I mean, the Crimea
thing. Yeah. Okay, they're all gonna vote yes. And the
Russians,
the Russians, is Vladimir. Hey, everybody, we're ready for it.
Come on. Vladimir partying in Ibiza.
It go for that? Shit. I'd go for it. You were just there recently
where? You know, didn't you go there recently? No, I thought
you were gonna go there
was somebody and we talked about it, but there was there is no
place that you can get decent in good connection. Everybody had?
Yes, we have internet. We have three G. That's not gonna work.
That's interesting. The President weighed in on net
neutrality. And I saw a clip with some analysis from chunk
over there at the young at the Young Turks show. And if you
look at the chunk, chunk show on YouTube, they have to see now he
does a Squarespace commercial before the the actual bit, and
it's sad.
I think there must be bleeding money, who
can make a website for me and I was like, I'm not gonna do a
chunk, make your own. And then he goes to Squarespace. It's
like, oh, I made a good website. Okay, thank you internet. It's
stupid. And they played this clip of the president on net
neutrality. i We need to pull this apart for a number of
reasons. And I would say number one is because we're getting
very close to some decision making here by the FCC. And I
also received another email and it was almost as if, holy moly.
We predicted it. This is the FFT F people. Tiff, it's Tiffany
from FFT f the fight for the future of the of the technology
future, whatever it is, what's his outfit called?
Yeah, I can't remember. It's some dumb operation. Yeah, but
it's funded, you know, it's funded,
like us funded. It was the good. And what is it all about? Oh,
mouse.
I you have a mouse.
Yeah, a mouse that, you know, the kind of mouse are hooked to
the computer that never catch on?
was out of my mouth. Hey, so as you start to over email, hey,
hey. Just wanted to make future. Yeah.
Just want to make sure you saw this email. There's good news.
Thanks in part to the response we helped generate. The FCC has
extended the deadline to receive comments about the Comcast
attempted internet takeover. Now it's Comcast attempted internet
takeover until October 29.
I didn't know that Comcast is attempting to take over the
internet.
There are just a few days left to stop Comcast from taking over
Time Warner Cable and signing a death sentence for net
neutrality. Click here to take action now, which is a donate
button.
Yeah, give them money. That's right. Isn't that what it is?
Click here to take action taking action is give them money.
This one really requires no explanation. The most hated
company in the US is trying to take over the second most hated
company in the US. Let me say, I don't know these are the most
hated companies in the US I can think of a couple I'm not too
fond of.
Well read the list.
Well, that there's no list is number one is Comcast. Number
two was Time Warner. That's what she's saying.
The most hated companies in the US. I think at&t would top be
either one of those. How about what kinds of possibility
companies
you can throw it okay. Let me continue here. In a move that
would raise our cable and internet bills, stifle online
free speech and make them one of the most powerful lobbies
in history.
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even from within the FCC. We have a real chance of stopping
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powerful opponent of net neutrality, online privacy and
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caught several times abusing their gatekeeper power as an
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please talk.
I'm gonna say this guys I'm looking at their website the
effort to help me help cut $40 Donate they have all these
shotgun projects they're all over the place battle for the
net. The reset the net that's them occupy the FCC That's them.
We crammed in tents on the FCC doorstep for nine days and
change the game for net neutrality You did really you
change the game and then what are we worried about? Fast Track
is obsolete apps obsolete technology. Stop fast track for
the TPP net neutrality help us save Stephen cold bear. Boy cat
caught the RSA. The NSA video the behind that will stop SOPA
again, call for freedom. Stop watching us it's another project
of theirs.
These guys are all at their front Barrett Brown.
What did I don't even know about this one? They're 20,000
demanding freedom for a journalist who faces 105 years
for sharing a link. Oh, this I gotta see, let me five years
stay with the program for one second, we need to just explain
very briefly, that any type of regulation any okay is not
desired. You do not want anything called net neutrality.
And when you hear our presidents understanding of it, it will it
will become abundantly clear to you that we are hosed. He has no
clue what he's talking about. And every single rule proposal
we have read verbatim on this program includes the language,
ISPs will block unlawful content and unlawful network traffic.
This will include bullying, this will include peer to peer. This
will include
hate speech Oh, agenda?
Yeah. And only they will be blocked. Now it's not it's okay.
Because I believe you cannot really, you can't shut off the
networks unless you're physically coming in and cutting
the cable line to people's houses that all kinds of ways
around this. But this will be the result. And this is what
they've all wanted. And outfits like Tiffany, hey, Tiffany from
fight for the future, are duping you. Now listen to your
president who even contradicts himself. It's almost like the
series of tubes, this guy
on net neutrality. I made a commitment very early on that. I
am unequivocally committed to net neutrality.
Now. What do you think he means by net neutrality? I don't know.
Everybody's equal, like equal pay and equal. Everything.
Maybe equal. Equal?
Fair. No losers, all winners. Everybody wins. Everybody gets
the same. Everybody's equal the same
hug and shares secret.
I think that is what has
think it's what has unleashed
the no agenda show the power
of the internet and We don't want to lose that or clog up the
pipes.
We don't want to clog up the pipes. Well, if you had net
neutrality, you are actually going to clog up the pipes. You
need to manage network traffic with different packet
prioritization. Am I crazy? Am I not hearing him correctly?
It's gonna clog up the pipe. When you got when you have, if
you don't have to net neutrality, you're going to clog
up, you understand what I'm saying? You know, it's like a
toilet bowl. If it's not used by both the women and the men and
you're down for the, for the women, you leave it down because
that's what they want. And if you don't do that, then you
don't have the net neutrality and that is in this thing gets
clogged up dad and they have to drill it out with a roto rooter.
This guy should be vilified for talking like Ted Stevens, this
is not a pipe. It's not a it's not. Thank you, John. It's not
it's not a drainage. It's not a sewer. Well, our show is kind of
our shows going through the sewer. But it's not it's not
it's not a pipe. It's not how it works. This is not how it works.
It's not a garden hose. It's not a freeway, it's not a highway.
It's not a fast lane is not a slow lane, you need packet
prioritization, any of this stuff to work, and it is going
on all the time. So saying that net neutrality will stop
clogging up the pipes is stupid, and incorrect.
The power of the internet and we don't want to lose that. Or clog
up the pipes. Oh God
at 10 Steven was ridiculed. Forever been talking about the
tubes, the pipe says not a truck, and all the rest of it.
And meanwhile Chris, this guy gets a pass. So it's like 10
years later you think he no more
says Why bring up chunk chunk? Because they're always like,
well, it's a great speech. Why is all I hope he says yeah, he's
great speeches is one of the best speeches.
All in with Obama.
The pipes. And so you can hear
what the fuck did I just say? You should add a little bit out
I will
a lot of aspects to net neutrality. And yeah, one of the
things that people are most concerned about is paid
prioritization.
Oh, I'm so concerned about paid prioritization. No, people want
their Netflix not to buffer and they will pay for it. And it's
not prioritization. It is paid peering. It is private peering
arrangements, which should be completely private and
agreeable. For for what people want, which is Facebook and
Netflix. People don't want anything else stupid morons. But
okay. So people are worried about paid prioritization.
Talking about what if you asked 100 people on the street it just
a direct question, are you worried about paid
prioritization? What would they say? I think
100 People would not know what that's about but if you said I
worried about net neutrality, they would all say oh, yeah, oh,
man, we get we gotta have net neutrality gonna get screwed
that neutrality. You're gonna you are gonna get screwed your
net neutrality with your unlawful content laws and
regulations, unlawful network traffic laws and regulations.
And who's going to determine this the FCC, so the FCC is
going to get its way which is always wanted to do which is
take control of both cable networks. Because they the
broadcasting thing is dead. It's over. I mean, at some point,
it's got a limited life left. And then Federal Communications
Commission's about communications and they want to
get hold of something else to do so they can regulate it. So you
can't show a ticket without being fined because you need to
get some money in the coffers. Or you can't say fuck, you can't
cuss? And you can't do this. You can't do that. And you have to
get a license to be a podcast or blog or no
hate speech, hate speech about No, no bullying, no name
calling,
gets bullying.
Now, what do you I'm trying to think how I should how I should
present this to you for what He's about to say. Well, you
should just listen to it.
The notion that somehow
I'll ask the question anyway. Is he powerful? Our president, can
he call someone and say, here's what I want? Here's what I want
you to do.
Yes, he could actually call the president of Mexico and tell him
to release that marine that's in jail down there, but he won't do
it. Could he? Yes, it's powerful. Could
you think he could call the FCC and say, Dude, here's what I
want you to do. Yeah. Is that within his realm of Is that
within his, with his injury? He's
not part of his job necessarily. But he's powerful enough to do
that. Now,
does he appoint this man does he appoint the
chairman or the leave is appointed by the executive
branch.
So when people and I'm looking to you, Leo, when people say we
had a lot of the head of the guy that head love He is now the
head of the FCC. It is actually the president who appointed him
Correct. I'm thinking
Yes, President it up while you're while you're playing the
clip, I'll look at the head of the FCC, but I'm pretty sure the
executive branch is
Tom Wheeler, I believe. Yeah. And I'm pretty sure I smack my
lips. And I'm pretty sure that President Obama Well, let's hear
from the President himself. Some
folks folks can pay a little more money.
What for me, like Netflix, folks can pay a little bit more money,
better service, more exclusive access to customers.
So the FCC, the FCC is directed by five commissioners appointed
by the President of the United States, the President not
confirmed by the US Senate.
He just said, some people are concerned that some folks which
can, it can be Republicans, folks can be terrorists, folks
can be students we heard him use folks can be sometimes we've
been addressed this, folks. But some folks can pay a little bit
more money for direct access to the customers. Now this is very
telling it how he views net neutrality. He views it
completely from the cable network standpoint, he does not
at all give a rat's ass about anyone who's an independent
producer, just trying to make connections with people globally
through this global network. He only thinks in supply of
content, and customers on the other end, which is insulting to
the American people, American entrepreneurs, to content
creators to anybody who uses this very unique opportunity we
have in our lifetime, which he is now personally trying to
limit by pushing for net neutrality, because he believes
it's the supply of content that we should be happy to have from
Hollywood. And there's nothing at all about the equality of
just connecting and as free flow of ideas and speech. But just
chunk talk
about that now and get better service more exclusive access to
customers through the internet. That's something I'm opposed. I
was opposed to it. When I ran, I continue to be opposed to it
now. Now, the FCC is an independent agency. They came
out with some preliminary rules that think the net routes and a
lot of folks in favor of net neutrality. Were concerned with
net routes. This is a very old term. Interesting. Yeah, that's
a good one. Net routes. Now. Net routes are the people who got
Howard Dean. Initially, I think on the ballot, and then of
course, the same net roots got them off. But it also includes
some of the Democrat leading organizations that I think
pretty much anybody who does any lobbying online is considered to
be net roots. But it's kind of an old term. It's kind of a mid
2000s term.
My appointee Tom Wheeler knows my position. I can't now that
it's now that he's there. I can't just call them up and tell
him exactly what to do.
You can Oh crap.
What to do what to do? I can't tell him what to do. Yes, you
can. Yes, you can. You've got a pen, you've got a phone is what
he's been telling us.
It's gonna pan I got a phone, I can do this. I can do that. Now
you won't do anything. The guy that he
appointed. I put him in, I can't tell him what to do. Well, then
either you have no power, or it's a crappy candidate you put
in which one is it
now that he's there? I can't just call him up and tell him
exactly what to do. But what I've been clear about what the
White House had been clear about is is that we expect whatever
final rules to emerge to make sure that we're not creating two
or three or four tiers
two or three or why not 50 tier why not? What's wrong with your
tears? Love, we won't want it we don't want tears. There's
already tears. It's already cheered. Service, you get t you
pay more for business accounts. Yeah. Well, we can't have that.
Now. I don't know sounds like it's just like the Vonnegut
story where instead of everybody having great access the people
that have fast access, so I have 200 megabits per second. I'm
going to get penalised. I'll have a limiter put on because
then I'll have more access than you. And they'll poke one eye
out so that I know so that we see either set Okay, I think we
made our point internet internet what? Now? That's it two tiers
of internet that was clumps are
gonna lead to the following. I have a clip this would have this
the future of tech reporting. Do we have to admit this is a clip
from four years
to tech news jingle Are we okay? Yeah,
let's play the check news jingle
that means I have to go look for it. Oh, you want to play it then
I have it I have it. I have tech news jingle and then we have
tech news.
My phone the way I see it the only good phones a landline and
the phone should be made out of Bakelite.
The very you know from classic dungeons now we try to present
ourself as a dungeon crawl. There's lots of dungeons but
outdoor areas like you're seeing in this demo and, and wilderness
areas and towns as
well. Not sure the engine can render them beautifully. And
clearly you guys are taking advantage of that the game looks
incredible. On to the demons Forge. When
did we get to play it? When do I get it? When do I convince my
friends to buy it? We're shipping first quarter next
year.
Was this what I miss? It was four years ago. And did that
game ever come out? I don't care. I launch my phone. That's
our tech news, everybody. I hope you enjoy it. I do have one last
little bit of annoyance that I need to get out. And this is
regarding Haiti. I'm sorry. It always happens. We missed
something we missed this. Laurent le mouth. The prime
minister of Haiti. We didn't we missed his appointment. We
missed this whole thing.
And you're the Haiti guy. I know. You're supposed to be
dogging Haiti
TMZ had a little piece on this guy. And the headline was yeah,
my girlfriend's a supermodel and I'm damn proud of it. Oh, let me
look at this girl who's this guy? This is Lauren Lamos he is
the prime minister of Haiti now you know the President the
elected president and forced on us by the Clintons of course is
a sweet Mickey Martelli and, and so his friend who runs the cell
network there in in Haiti, big, big Selma, if you look this guy
up is very interesting. Lorenza moth, let me just tell you a
little bit about him. Young guy born in 72, and he was the co
founder and CEO of the global voice group. That's a very big I
think they do a pretty much a Caribbean exclusive, but they
obviously provide everything to Haiti, I think they've got the
deal with the microfinance etc. And he was appointed initially
as a special adviser to his friend, President sweet Mickey
Martelly, in order to achieve, you know, less of a conflict now
to have less conflict of interest as being an actual
politician. And then in 2011, he and Bill Clinton co chair the
Presidential Advisory Committee for the economic development and
investment in Haiti. All those billions of dollars, well, went
into his cell network as far as I can tell. And then he was the
foreign minister, but then he became the prime minister after
the current Prime Minister Gary khanyile resigned and this is
2012. And so he's the prime minister by appointment not by
vote. And his girlfriend is Petra was at number COVID.
Number COVID, I think is how you pronounce it. Now you'll
remember her of stunningly beautiful. She was the
supermodel who was caught in the tsunami. And her fiance and
photographer was swept away and she managed to hold on to a palm
tree and she got hurt and he died and a horrible story. And
she was done with Sean Penn for a while and now she's with this
guy. And she has a that's
why Sean Penn was hanging out in Haiti for so long. He was like
in Haiti all the time.
And she so she and I really think her hearts in the right
place. She has the happy What does it call it? Happy, happy
foundation. Hold on a second, something like that. It's called
the happy hearts fund. And I think we brought it up briefly
on the show. But the happy hearts fund gave a big award to
Bill Clinton In New York for all of his great work for Haiti. And
I just want to remind the
picture of I just added a picture I just sent you, I, I
have
the picture. And I just want to remind you that when this
happened, we had three presidents all sitting down and
asking for the following.
We just need cash. I know a lot of people want to send blankets
or water,
just send your cash.
So this guy is rolling larger. Everyone, everyone's at this
party and his good party. But he also comes in and speaks with,
with our Secretary of State Kerry. And they do the little
clippity clop move, and they, the guy is tiny, by the way next
to Carrie, which is kind of funny, big man, his girlfriend
must be a head taller than him. That's why they're not in
pictures. Maybe you could stand next to Bill, I don't want to be
in the picture. And as I was listening, all of a sudden, it's
like, Oh, my God, they're about to screw this country royally,
even more than it is now. We know that. of the 500,000 people
who were in tents, you know, the United Nations, the blue helmets
brought in cholera, people are dying. But what's happening is
they're just ignoring everything there. They are pushing people
into the neighboring I have the name of it. Here it is. It's
really quite sad. While they're building all these huge hotels
and turning into this super luxurious destination, really,
the 100 1000s of people are being pushed in their tents into
a desert, kind of neighboring desert out of Port au Prince.
And now let's listen to this guy. And the problem is they
have an election coming up the end of this month. But there are
people inside the government of Haiti who had been elected who
are who have will have they they will have nothing of it. They
don't have the electoral rules, the electoral rules that
everyone decided on, when they went to the vote, they had been
changed by by the administration to read differently. And the
senators said we're not voting on this is bullcrap, you're
trying to screw us so that you can screw the people of Haiti.
But this is how it works. When you're in with the Atlanticist
and the globalists like Carrie here they are together happy
to welcome the Prime Minister of Haiti, here to Washington, and
in doing so I welcome a good friend, good partner, major
efforts to meet the challenges of Haiti, which are significant
because of the devastating earthquake and some of the needs
to push for political reform.
Political reform, you say sounds like freedoms coming your way
Haiti.
The government has worked hard and we have worked hard, the
international community has worked
hard to steal the money to make a difference
to the lives of the people of Haiti.
Do you remember the big the big benefit concert the Clooney put
on?
Oh, yeah, we all remember.
And we have a deep interest in the United States and helping to
continue down this road. Both democracy and economic growth
and development.
It's so disgusting to hear these people talk like this about
people are dying in tents.
There is work to be done. And particularly as we know, there
is a challenge of completing the task of having local and
legislative elections as soon as possible, being able to set the
date and hold those elections to complete the task of Haiti's
transition.
Transition to what what When did this happen? When did we need to
transition these people need houses? They need a roof and
water and no
cholera is the problem. I'm sorry, it didn't kill them off
yet this week was just to get the population reduced down to
something reasonable and easy to manage there and to fix things.
While it did. They're very close. And then you'll hear this
from the Prime Minister,
unfortunately, that is being blocked down politically by
Republicans. I spoke with President Martelly just the
other day about this. And we intend to try to work very
closely to move forward this this resistance, the
unwillingness to allow the people to be able to have this
vote really challenges the overall growth and development
progress of the country.
It's it's just mind boggling to me that there's a group of
elected leaders in Haiti who are saying we're it's written
everywhere you can read it in all kinds of publication that
are being screwed and we're not gonna let these elections happen
under these rules because it is it we're being duped. And here
are these, here's this asshole carries, oh, we maybe should go
on we should maybe we should arrest these people that are
just waiting for that to happen. You're blocking progress it is
just it's mind boggling that no one says anything about this
need to have a fully functioning government. The President has
been working very hard, the Prime Minister working very very
hard to pull people together to make this happen.
Where did this pretty carry did give this boring speech
at the State Department with the guy and the about the guy who's
about to speak and you'll hear what he has to say. He was one
of those they're together and he came in to get 25 billion and
IMF loans. That's why he's in Washington with Fifi Fifi
Lagarde of this. This is just it's
the we'll talk about that today. And we have very, very high
hopes that we can make progress with respect to that, because
that will facilitate our ability to build big buildings if
continue the progress and complete the task of helping the
people of Haiti to have the day to day lives they deserve and
want, which we want for PRIME MINISTER Well,
I want to thank Secretary Kerry for for having us today. It's a
great pleasure and honor to be here. It's my second visit. I
used to be foreign minister here of ad so I'm very, very happy to
be able to discuss his progress. We came a long way. After a
devastating earthquake that took away 250,000 lives. 500,000
people were wounded. The country had $14 billion in damages. And
50% of the population of photoprints was homeless. That's
the situation we found today. 98% of that population has been
relocated,
relocated, 98% of the poverty of the population has been
relocated. Yes. Long is this clip? Well, I'm sorry. I mean,
it's, it's important to me,
Well, I know but you couldn't cut it down a little bit.
I've cut it in. It's a third of what it was. All right. Well, if
you're bored, it's I'm
just saying I have a two minute clip you always give me grief
about but this clip is going on forever. I think the points been
made.
Well, no, I don't think so. I think the the numbers are
important. So if he's saying 98% have been recruited relocated of
2 million people in Puerto prince that still leaves 2%
That's 40,000 People are still intense pooping their guts out
in the city itself.
Does it deny the relocated people can't they be in tents?
They are intense. Well, everybody's in tents.
But they've been relocated.
wordage they've been relocated. That doesn't mean anything. It
means that they're screwed. Yes.
All right. Well, yeah, it's just me. Nevermind, we don't have to
listen to it. It's fine.
I'm just saying you. I think the point is, is made these you're
just you know, you've said this
four times. Now the point is made the point is made your
clips are
too long. Okay. All right. When I do clips you cut me off at
about a minute and you're quite the
opposite. If you go listen to the last 10 shows I've said this
is actually the place where it's okay to play long clip. You've
had three minute clips you've had five minute clips and we've
let them play out entirely so fine,
fine, fine. Those clips and so you could come on it's fine.
It's fine it's fine. It's okay no no we get it or get each
other for this but you all would will cut me off but
instead of saying how long is this clip to say okay, get the
point of gun
trying to say that but then you won't listen to me.
Oh, you didn't say that? You said How long is this clip?
Where was this boring speech? Oh,
I think if you listen a little earlier I was trying to get this
shortened up I just think to too long these clips you had today
was your long clip day. I mean it's fine if you think it's
important but I don't see or anything in that carry thing we
could have cut that right off carry is boring. He said nothing
he said then this other guy doesn't say anything because you
already told us what we need to know. I think we were right on
the money with the whole thing but I don't see that there's any
backup in these clips is just the guys Blad at I just didn't
think the clips are positive. They didn't help your point. I
think they were they were just weren't good clips. Sorry. Okay,
and it's just only that when the other stuff was good. It's just
this clip here was and Carrie you know, I can only put up with
so much of that guy.
Okay. You didn't complain about the three minute global warming
clip. You thought that was funny. That was three minutes.
Well, it
was Yeah. I don't know. I mean, the global warming thing is
different because it was kind of led to a punch line your
you got your two minutes Scottish poll tax clip, which
you could have said they're gonna get screwed over Potter to
screw skulls. As I find it's fine. It's fine. It's called
it's called you know, not everyone has listened to every
single show like we have. That everybody know there are new
people who have no The whole idea what's going on in Haiti.
People forget these things. Well, that's true when you have
you when you have the Secretary of State standing there and
saying transition is being blocked in Haiti. It is
disgusting. These two are people it is disgusting that no one is
saying hey, ass wipe. Where did all the money go that Clinton
stole you guys are partying it up in New York with supermodel
girlfriends. Screw you douchebags and it's real people.
And you can fly three hours and be there at the hilt at the
Clinton hotel,
by the way, but since you mentioned her as it probably a
good person, I would recommend reading her wiki page and you
tell me she's not a spy for somebody? Really? No, seriously?
Well, let's take a look.
She speaks like 20 languages she has been everywhere. She has all
the earmarks of some sort of I don't know who let's see who
speaks Czech Slovak Polish English
she's she's from Czechoslovakia you get to speak a couple of
languages
slide on but Slovak Polish English French Italian she was
engaged the English actor Jamie by Bellman or whoever that isn't
that ended. And then she's here she's in the tsunami. She's
over. She's she's lived everywhere. It's just I'm just
tired of me. You read this and telling me that she's not a spy?
Knowing the the
I don't think No I don't think she's a spy. I think she's a
very She's probably just No, I don't think so. I think she's
probably a very sweet girl. And she's been in certain circles
she does not know any different this has been her life from very
early on. Her foundation is selling chaupar necklaces for
$1,500 of which 17% goes to the charity on her on the charities
website which I find to be sketchy I don't know now I don't
I don't mean that but do you think she's a spy? I don't think
so.
No, take a read the whole thing when you have a chance and maybe
I'm wrong but
she's a presidential model you know she's an executive and I
know what you're thinking but I am thinking MK Ultra of anything
look at her she's a privileged girl is privileged
certify she's been everywhere she's a
bit short 510 That's not really talked enough for well for
supermodel status
as I don't like the picture on our wiki
if you just go to images you get some really good pictures of her
it looks a little easier than Sports Illustrated swimsuit
model two which is always a plus out choosing the Miss Universe
competition in Quito Ecuador. With a shoo in Miss Universe
competition woohoo she representing must have been
Czechoslovakia. How about Haiti? Why not? Piers currently sign
in.
I'm very happy. I'm dating around Plymouth.
Yeah, that's the other thing. Why would she date this guy?
Well, look at him. He's so beautiful. I'm sorry. He has
money because he has money. I'll just say it. She's gonna think
she's shallow. And shallow. That's what I'll say.
I'll just say she's keeping an eye on him.
While she was keeping an eye on Sean Penn.
Somebody's got to. Yeah,
maybe what could be well, if you take the Haiti thing into
consideration, you may be right. You may be right. Of course,
this $3 million. You knows I have the 990. A lot of travel,
spending a couple $100,000 on travel. Traveling everywhere.
Fine.
All right. All right. Let's summarize the Haitians are being
screwed. And now they're going to be screwed more?
Well, no, I think what is happening is the senators
because that's what I was in the clip was coming up, but we're
never going to hear that again. The senators in in Haiti I have
for 200 days I've been blocking this election, which is supposed
to happen on the 26th they've been blocking it because the
electoral rules were changed the ones they all voted on and
saying we're not going to approve this. And I think
someone will have to die. Something bad is going to happen
and you're hearing he's going to carry saying hey, Carrie, we
have to get this approved. Because otherwise we can't
really move the last 2% or whatever it is into the tents
and you know, bulldoze over them or whatever they're going to do
to go look at pictures of hey, they're building high rises,
condos, it's going to be it's going to be a beautiful resort.
They've just steamrolled these people away. I just have
compassion for I've never been there. I don't know anyone. From
Haiti, I have compassion for this. It pisses me off.
Yeah. Well, well, you're the one tracking it. It's never been the
scam since the first since the earthquake happened. And it's
been give us your money and then it all ended up in the Clinton
Foundation. I don't know. We've We've discussed this quite a bit
on the show for people that are new to the show.
That's kind of what I meant is a little background for people,
man. All right. All right. I'll take it. You're right. It was it
was too long. You're right. But just send the clips too long.
Don't
give me too long carry stinks. I
don't know what I don't like is when you say you made your
point. That's like, that's rude.
You didn't make your point to you. Well, I'm the guy that's
listening.
Okay, well, that's a good point there. All right, you got any
clips then to ended up?
I'm gonna put my clips off. I did have some stuff I wanted to
do from last year, but I didn't put them on this clip. Yeah,
here play this monkey, given the right to vote. is the dumbest
story of the week
with this. And onto our legal panel. The New York appeals
court weighing a case that would grant chimpanzees legal
personhood. But will this monkey business hold up in court here
to debate a civil rights attorney Paul Millis of Meyer
Suzhou, English and Klein and Bill Franken, a partner at
Frumkin and Hunter law firm. Wow, okay, Bill, what is legal
personhood for the
legal personhood is basically being qualified under the law as
a person. So you can avail yourself of some of its
protections like habeas corpus, which is what they're trying to
do here to say that human beings Yes, well, it's it has to be a
stretch of the law out and the word person, there's no question
about it. But if you look at science and technology and our
knowledge of animals and what they know, et cetera, this suits
it's getting close to know that the DNA and certain makeup of
chimpanzees are the same as humans. And that's where the
analysis starts. With all due respect
below, should I call your doctor says, this is Monkey Business at
its height. A person is not a monkey, a monkey is not a
person, pure and simple. And you're quoted the chimpanzee
is also not a monkey, by the way.
With this, they dealt with it in divorce cases where people are
fighting over Fido. They want Fido both of them do and the
court says it's a chattel. In other words, it's something you
own. We may love our dogs, and I certainly do mine but it's on
it's something you own. It's a piece of
no you don't that's not true. You're not your your caregiver,
your caregiver, Guardian, Guardian, thank you, you're not
allowed to own a pet. So that's only
in certain states. Okay,
what's the most convincing argument that these animal
activists have constantly I gotta, you know, this is crazy
to me. They're human beings. And
anyway, you summarize, what's the point? No,
one point is that this is this is a dumb piece of crap story
that came up on Fox and it's never going to that's not going
to work. And they found two guys that talk about it. One guy's
took the one side of being a monkey should be given
citizenship, and the other one didn't. That's the other side,
which is the way it works on these shows. If I went, if it
was me, I'd be I'd be glad to argue for the monkey, you know,
just to get on some airtime. Wow. But anyways, and Ron, we
cut we cut the Haiti clip short for that. Wow.
Yeah, yeah. I cut it. I listened. I stopped it.
After two minutes of it,
I could have stopped it sooner.
The only thing I have. I do want to mention that next week, this
coming week, regulators from the United States and United Kingdom
will get together in a war room to see I'll tell you who's
getting together Treasury Secretary Jack Lew. George
George Osborne, the UK, Chancellor of the Exchequer,
which is the Treasury Secretary, along with Federal Reserve
Chairwoman Janet Yellen. And bank of Governor Bank of England
governor Mark Carney, they're going to do a simulation of what
would happen if a large bank failed. And I'm only bringing
this up because sometimes when they do these drills, you know,
weird things happen. And I said weird but
weird. Scope. It's the Bank of America.
No. Oh, like 911 was a simulation SEVEN, SEVEN was a
simulation. It's always these drills and tests going on when
crazy things happen. And we need to be aware of that.
Oh, maybe that's what is oh, you know what it could be? What?
Cyber attack by ICE not by ISIL. But by the Corizon. Group. Yeah,
of a bank.
Nice. Well, we'll be right up getting there.
We're getting primed for cyber, cyber, cyber, cyber to an
extreme. And then we can dump the money into this stuff that
you know these various. Who's the one guy that's always the ex
CIA guys always bought there? I don't have Bob here. The other
guy the Bolton, what's his name's not gates. Some other guy
when he was McChrystal animala I don't know if I said his name.
Oh, yeah, that guy. He's always he's been scheming to be the
head of cyber for a while he's written a couple books.
What's the matter, honey? Are you Are you not feeling well?
Did Jaya John's fault. Yes. She has a bola.
Nora going around again, which looks a lot like Ebola.
So you don't know who that guy is? Think of it later. Coming to
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