Alright, got to go see this guy who does he think he is? Oh,
it's the mouse guy, Adam curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Thursday,
October 16 2014. Time for your Gitmo nation media assassination
episode 661.
This is no agenda
soon to be on a Do Not cordless nationwide broadcasting from
FEMA Region six in the capital of the drone Star State Austin,
Texas in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry.
And from Northern Silicon Valley. I'm John C. Dvorak.
Hill. All righty.
Just because you misplace your paper that you didn't have an
opening line, I guess.
Alright. Well, I couldn't use that as the opening line, I
suppose. Now and then, you
know, no chance.
It is. Very important day today, John.
Great day for America is it is
Oh, wow. That was at the Ronald Reagan who did the great day for
America speech.
That's what Craig Ferguson does on his show every day.
No, it is a hashtag Spirit Day. Hashtag has Spirit Day. We must
all go purple today. That's right. This is from the GLAAD
the Glads the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against dorks what is
glad,
gay and lesbian. Gay and Lesbian? That's a good question
that you mentioned. I
don't know what it is either. D D. What is D? D? No. It's a D it
gl AGLAD?
Yeah. Gay. And I don't get it.
It doesn't matter.
That's funny that you think that? We
would know this? Yeah. Yeah. And Lesbian Alliance Against
Discrimination? No, I don't know. Let's see something like
that. Yeah, we should know this is this is quite disturbing.
While he's very well, while you're looking at
the joke of it, but this is a different read. This is New
Media versus old media, new media like this. We just say
well, let's just look it up.
Or as we say. While you're looking that up. This is the
let's see. It's not here on the GLAAD website. So let's see what
it might be underground. Today is the day we all go purple and
Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation.
defamation. I was close enough. Today we all go purple which
means you need to change your well yes, change your icon they
have a they have a little tool to GLAD Spirit Day tool to turn
your profile picture purple and spread the word by posting to
Twitter and Facebook. It this is because eight out of 10 LGBT
youth are bullied.
Eight out of 10 fact
says right here on the website. I'm looking at it right now.
That's a lot. Yeah.
Those big guys who workout at the gym and beat the crap out of
people who would even attempt it. I guess, guys,
I'm sure. There it is the number of LGBT youth who report being
bullied eight out of 10
Oh, well, they didn't once in their life, perhaps they would
know. It was bullying. And now what's the definition? It just
keeps varying? I don't know. I am not changing my icon. I've
already changed it to blue and green wants to stay with it. You
really have ever seen my icon? It's blue in a screen. I go
okay,
but it wasn't participating in any kind of any kind of
bait? No, it was it was changed to be all purpose. And an icon a
true icon is not a picture or anything. And it's just these
colors and I kept them. Well, board colors blue and green.
I as I will say right off the bat, we have an issue with all
these anti bullying laws that are being put into place etc. As
they are completely a a breach of free speech.
And some bets the road to the end of free speech. We've been
watching this since the beginning of our show. And it's
just continued this it's actually does. We've been doing
this show for almost seven years. I want to remind people
of that how that's coming up. It's 10 days, seven years of
wonderment and some of it will remit that we're still on the
air. It's for so long. It really is. Yeah.
Well, this this program. I have to say there are so many so many
facets to this show besides just the show itself. If you really
think about the artwork we have the infrastructure that we have
that makes it all run which is completely outside of any
mainstream system. We have our own infrastructure. We have
shownotes and content management. We have the no
agenda news network. We have a peerage program we've got great
search we have the no agenda play arrow which I want to plug
again, no agenda player.com, which is fantastic. If you want
to find just a little, a little clip and send someone a link
directly to that part of the show where we were talking about
something. It's also annotated. We have apps. We've got a
stream, we've got a book club, but today, I want to highlight
something you do. No, it's yes. Besides playing, I forgot our
musical prowess.
Music. We have an orchestra, the musical band,
the musical stylings of John C. Dvorak, now, the newsletter. And
for people who have not subscribed to the newsletter,
you are missing out on a big part of the show. And I realized
this once again, of course, whenever I read the newsletter,
it's, yeah, I think about these things. But you had a dynamite
newsletter, where you really summed it up, that everything
certainly what you see in the United States of Gitmo nation,
but of course, because of the vast, expansive nature of our
mainstream media, it flows into every other country in the
gizmos, is that the main crises that you're seeing right now, if
they are not being politicized, they were created for political
reasons. And, and it's important to understand this, right now,
there is, believe me, in the White House, in the halls of
government, in the up on Capitol Hill, people are not talking
about your safety. They're not talking about your health.
They're talking about how they can stay in power, and what do
we need to do to get people to vote for them in? Was it less
than four weeks time?
That's what it is you have to rethink all news items within 60
to 90 days of an election day as possibly connected. Possibly.
Wow. If when it was mentioned in his last newsletter was the
following assertion, which is one that we've been harping on,
which is these tricks that Democrats have been pulling to
get Republican women to switch over and it's just very targeted
toward Republican women which are by scaring them with guns
and scaring them with this and that and Sandy Hook. And so it's
seems possible that the Republicans weren't going to
stay flat footed on this, which it appeared they were but now
that what triggered the thought in that newsletter was the the
Ebola bumper sticker.
Yeah. Now, was this a really bold bumper sticker that you saw
in the wild? Or is this one that
is being sold out in the wild and told me about it?
So explain since we're an audience about your sticker that
looks like an
Obama bumper sticker uses the Obama logo and says Ebola and
the OH is the Obama logo, which by the way is copyrighted? And
this is an illegal bumper sticker. Oh yeah. 3000
troops
some virus from Nigeria
I forgot to mention the jingle it's gonna be a 10 rounder or
eight.
Maybe knockout in the third the way I see it. Yeah. And
something I noticed a couple things. I don't know if you had
something you wanted to start off with.
I just wanted to make I don't have a clip that relates
specifically to this, this observation. But I would I
wanted to say is that the Republicans have when they were
running George Bush, I realized that all their their fear
mongering had to do with terrorism and outside things
attacking inside the country. In other words, outside forces that
we had to protect everyone from and that was the way to fright.
And I don't want to just blame this on the women men fall for
this too, as you know, because you've seen frightened Oh, John,
me about to get killed by ISIS coming across the border. So the
Republicans have always used that as their leverage the big
international threat. And the Democrats have always gone short
been short. They've been you know, the gun threats, a gun
tread, shooting by kid guns killing their kids. That's the
thing. And so it has, they have a kind of a more narrow image
about how to scare people. And the Republicans go for the big
ones. And I realized that this is a whopper this Ebola thing is
just a Whoppers is done too. And it's to the everything's about
embarrassing the President and I just felt and I
think that I can show some of this politicization going on
with some of the things that I've discovered and there's a
big a big Whopper on the horizon, which is a very
interesting one. Perhaps I'll start off this way that the
President was at a joint Andrews joint Bay What is it Andrews Air
Force Base, some of them have a joint it's somewhere they call
it joint something joint probably in the in the locker
and he's, and he's there with all these flags and all these
other You know, generals who looked like they came right out
of central casting for Starfleet Command. Then he's sitting there
doing a presser, a 10 minute presser mainly about ISIS. But
then he, he pulls out the Ebola card. And I wanted to play that,
and then show you that the president and the Democrats in
the White House are realizing the danger that is upon them
with this being blamed on him. And what I'm seeing the blame
turning out to be is because of Obamacare, because of the cuts,
this is what the Republicans are saying, This is why things are
going wrong. This is why our system is is is ruined. So he
has to do whatever he can to combat this. And then there's
some other interesting things that are being done as well. But
this one, first of all, was that
a press conference was bad, might as well play it now.
Sorry, it was queued up and I hit the wrong button.
We have made enormous strides in just a few short weeks in
standing up a US military operation in Western Africa,
I listen very carefully about this military operation that
apparently is necessary to fight Ebola, we can
start building the kind of transport lines and supply lines
to get workers supplies medicine equipment.
Does this sound strange to you, John, this supply lines and what
what are they building? The LIC is a couple of tents,
I have no idea if we have three and a half 1000 serious things
that have happened this week that are not necessarily
explainable on the surface. And I think I think it is gonna take
a little more digging to figure out what's going on with some of
this stuff. And this may be one of them
into Liberia, Sierra Leone, and Guinea and a number of the
countries who are represented here are really stepping up and
doing what's necessary in order for us to contain this epidemic.
But as I've said before, and I'm gonna keep on repeating until we
start seeing more progress.
Whenever he says this, you have to pay attention, because he's
trying to make a very big point. And I think the point is, if
other countries don't participate in our supply lines,
or whatever we're doing, we're gonna send some Ebola your way
is the way it sounds,
the world as a whole is not doing enough. There are a number
of countries that have capacity that have not yet stepped up,
those that have stepped up, all of us are going to have to do
more. Because unless we contain this at the source, this is
going to continue to pose a threat to individual countries
at a time when there's no place that's more than a couple of air
flights away. And the transmission of this disease,
obviously, directly a threat to all our populations. In
addition, we have not only a humanitarian crisis in West
Africa, that threatens hundreds of 1000s of lives. But we also
have the secondary effects of destabilization economically and
politically, that could lead to more severe problems down the
road,
or perhaps some freedom and democracy coming your way that
is possible. Now, last night or the maybe it was the night
before I caught Anderson Cooper who seems to be in Texas,
outside the hospital, just standing around I could I could
probably just drive up to Dallas and just say hi. You know, we go
so far back. Then this, this cropped up and this all of a
sudden I went oh, okay, now I know what has happened.
Explosive
claims now being made from the president of National Nurses
United represents the nurses at this hospital says when Ebola
patient Thomas, Eric Duncan, was here at Texas Health
Presbyterian Hospital, quote, the guidelines were constantly
changing, and quote, there were no protocols. And that's just
the beginning of their claims. Dr. Sanjay Gupta was just on
that press call. He's back with us now. But what is this
organization claiming happened inside this hospital?
Now before we lead to Sanjay Gupta, in on the conversation,
this is a union. And this is what got my attention that of
all the things we could hear and it's gone from health care care
worker to nurses, nurses, nurses, nurses, nurses, and I'm
pretty sure why but this this kind of tipped me off and I
wasn't hearing a lot about this until these guys brought it up
and I'm seeing a lower thirds nurses may walk off the job. So
this is a a union issue. At this point.
They are making some some pretty startling claims and says You
mentioned from anonymous nurses within the hospital that do not
wish to be identified. But some of these things so important
with regard to possible other infections. They say that mr.
Duncan was left for several hours, not nicely Question, but
an area where other patients were present up to seven
patients they say, and even after a nursing supervisor
demanded that he be put in isolation to say was met with
opposition from hospital authorities.
I just want to remind you, he said we heard from anonymous
nurses which means nothing, it could be made up at this point.
Also, the laboratory samples the blood samples, typically with
patients who have a concern about infectious disease, they
are taken straight to the lab. Instead they say this was
transported to the hospital tube system
tube system to like the internet is to all sorts
of samples are spent a lot of people What is this about tube
system?
Is this apparently this hospitals old fashioned they
have those vacuum to like the bank? Yeah, it was like the bank
used to have or actually the banks don't think a lot of banks
still have that in the car drive. Yeah, well,
yeah. Lots of banks. Yeah. No. That's what you want your Ebola
thrashing around, have access to it. And they worry that the
entire system there could be potentially contaminated. This
was this one really was quite quite so
it's also complete bogus liveness. Or the the whole
system might be contaminated. This is still making it up. But
again, it's coming from unconfirmed sources,
a container of a bowl of blood, which blew up and was leaking,
rising to me. Apparently, nurses expressed concern about the fact
that their necks are not covered. Taking care of a
patient with Ebola. They were told to wrap medical tape,
though he goes on and on about this. And so we have bogus Yes,
medical tape, really, we have and we have a nurse issue. So
the President, of course wants to bring this to the forefront.
It's all good. I feel protected. The nurses are good nurses are
okay. As long as you follow the protocols, and I
use myself as an example just so that people have a sense of the
science here.
It's the science has a lot of signs. There's a lot of science
lying around. Yeah, for sure. Science here.
I shook hands with hugged and kissed not the dots, but a
couple of the nurses,
not the doctors, but a couple of the nurses he hugged and kissed
the nurses
is kissing nurses. Now what is wrong with this guy?
He's repeating this everywhere.
I want to use myself as an example just so that people have
a sense of looking for cheap feel. The science here. I
know that science,
don't interrupt for a minute,
shook hands with hugged and kissed Predator drones. Right.
I just threw that in just for as little as little did. Yeah. So
you had but then this one down. Now this has not I've not seen
any real news reports about this nurses union that we're talking
about the National Nurses United here is a clip I was able to
find I can't remember what this is from. But what becomes
apparent here. This is from July of this year. So this is a
couple couple months ago. What kind of
joined about 300 nurses and union representatives who
gathered in front of the California Nurses Association
building plan their employer, Kaiser Permanente of dismissing
the importance of patient care, which is alarming. They say
because Kaiser is the largest health insurer and hospital
system in California.
We had a rally today we were supposed to have bargaining but
our employer failed to show up so we went to them instead. So
we rallied over their offices and let them know that we were
there and what what our purpose was to be there.
The nurses say that despite the $1.1 billion increase in Kaiser
profits for the first quarter of 2014. Kaiser still allows
chronic understaffing and continues to cut patients
services. Those cuts include hospital admission restrictions,
holding patients in observation for over 72 hours and
prematurely sending patients from Kaiser hospitals, to other
settings that include homes where the burden of providing
care falls on the families.
So there is a dispute and there's about 200,000 workers in
this union, a dispute that I believe is being politicized
with this Ebola. Yeah. And and it's it's interesting that it's
Kaiser so Kaiser is a huge is one of if not the largest health
insurer, right. Funny how, you know, you have the Kaiser Health
Report on NPR. It's funny how there's not a lot of reporting
on this issue between Kaiser and the nurses. In fact, good catch,
I don't see much coverage of it at all.
Yeah, and because the mainstream media again, even if it's
public, NPR, it's or PBS in this case it's corrupt is corrupted
by this,
but this will not stay on under the radar, this is being pushed
very, very hard when you have nurses walking off the job
because they don't feel safe because they're going to assert,
or the Republican Party will assert is because of Obamacare
cuts. And right now, it's it's kind of covered up that all
premiums are about to to rise for workers covered at work. So
it's very nice. And besides, why wouldn't you you should pay more
to be covered for Ebola. This is a huge problem for the
administration as good, a huge problem. And I think this that
I'm just looked at just still just looking at this Bogut of
clipboard guy with the with the plane and letting you know
taking the nurse to the hospital in Atlanta. I'm I just don't
believe it anymore. I'm not going to believe it.
Here's another one for you then I think adds right into this
basic thesis here. The second nurse that caught Ebola somehow
out of Dallas jumps on an airplane after supposedly
according to The New York Times, yeah. calls The CDC says I have
a little temperature and I've been working on that guy that
had Ebola. Can i Is it okay for me to fly? Oh, good to go. And
so she's good to go. Cuz she's not 100.4 degrees, which is the
year mark of Ebola. She was only 99.
According to the literature, if it's 101.5 that is the which I
have just painted a loaf.
How did that get into the conversation? Just
thought about that guy's air conditioner. Oh, now. Anyway, so
the point and then so she's now on an airplane isn't around. And
this is just drawing more attention to both the nurses
dilemma and the Ebola. Aha. And I don't think that unions
realize that they're playing kind of into Republican hands
here. Well,
well, maybe who knows the unions? I don't think the unions
necessarily care who they're working with. But I think the
unions want they just want the pilots what they want. Yeah. Now
NBC, just to prove how bogus all of this really is NBC the debt a
cameraman still as of yet unexplained. Did he was he was
he filming and touching people at the same time with his other
hand? Did he slip and fall in some goo? I mean, who knows how
he received this Ebola. But everyone who was on the crew was
in quarantine. And Nancy Snyderman, the NBC doctor who
was there and who also was in quarantine, just completely
ignored it. She was walking around in New Jersey at a
restaurant and
our chief medical editor Dr. Nancy Snyderman has been in the
news herself these past few days. We spoke with Nancy
earlier today, during which time she said quote, while under
voluntary quarantine guidelines, which called for our team to
avoid public contact for 21 days, members of our group
violated those guidelines and understand that our quarantine
is now mandatory until 21 days have passed. We remain healthy
and our temperatures are normal. As a health professional, I know
that we have no symptoms and pose no risk to the public. But
I am deeply sorry for the concerns this episode caused. We
are thrilled that Ashoka is getting better and our thoughts
continue to be with the 1000s affected by Ebola whose stories
we all went to cover. Bullshit.
This is total crap. Everybody knows that. This is just a bunch
of fear mongering scary stuff for the elections. And this
Sneiderman knows that I'm not going to sit in my house for
three weeks. I'm gonna go get a pizza. Well, either
that or snyderman is a Republican operative. Well, no,
that's that
possibility. But let's just this morning, I clipped this off of
CNN this morning. This is crazy, though. Of course we see last
night we see or was last night the night before. We see this,
this airplane and we see the the the so called Second patient the
nurse in her yellow hat. It's not you know brain Slickers. Not
really a hazmat suit. And then there's clipboard guy walking
around. And this needs to be explained. So CNN, they can't
get an official answer from anybody. So they go to the next
best thing, which of course is ABC News, because they're pretty
much the spokes whole arm for the administration. And then
there's that guy that says Mikayla, by the way my friend
Makayla, this
is on CNN. That's what I'm saying.
So I think this
ABC,
CNN couldn't get an official to talk about it. They got ABC to
tell them what
guy that guy was clipboard, in street clothes not wearing any
sort of protective clothing. Is it is this concerning Elizabeth?
I think to the untrained eye, the optics of it are concerned
there's
your optics, again, the optics are
concerning see for people
taking great caution in taking care of a patient who is in the
yellow hazmat suit, right so
optics are are not always wrong.
Tactics are not always right. Right. optics are not always
right. This is a great sentence. This one should be a bumper
sticker. Right? optics are not always right.
We reached out to Phoenix to the folks who were doing the
transport. We haven't gotten a hold of them. But they did speak
to ABC News. And they had a very reasonable explanation. Oh,
great.
I mean, if ABC News says so then it just must be true.
Which is that the guys in the suits have limited visibility
and so you want someone out there to give them verbal
directions not touch them, but to say you know, move here go
here.
You can't get you're not in this shot.
Hit your mark. Get your mark and background and action. Yeah, the
guy was holding the script. This wasn't rehearsal shot supervisor
According to ABC. So I know it might look a little bit funny.
Look a little funny, no attention to the funny looking
stuff. The optics are always like,
you know, at that distance, he's not gonna get the you know, he's
not right near who he's not in contact with her bodily fluids.
I'm pleased to say that clipboard guy now has his own
twitter handle with Bordeaux if anyone wants to speak to him.
Listen, distract people quickly when it's written to him. might
be feeling a little Yeah, look, now boy, boy, you're gonna love
this.
We gotta remember the science here. I think that gets lost in
a lot of soccer in Africa all the time treating people if
you're more than three feet away the science. Paying clipboard
guy didn't seem to get within three feet there. He seems to be
being careful. I don't think there was perhaps an oversight.
He knew what he was doing. And four
or $500 John C. Dvorak the science.
Three feet away. You're safe.
That's exactly right. Good job.
Well, let's play these little background clips then can I
can I do my big reveal?
But no deal after these black rocks.
Give me some background clips.
Okay, that's lazy. There's two that I pulled down that I
thought were in it. What is the course is the background clip on
that second nurse flying around that which is just the intro to
this to the story itself. And you can play that yeah, you need
to tell me the name of it, as he Bolin. New Case flying around.
Oh, new case flying around his
second Texas health care worker.
I love Amy Goodman. We did we have a clip where she said
explosive diarrhea. Someone said we needed to clip that out.
I don't have it but it sounds like a winner.
Second Texas health care worker has tested positive for Ebola in
the United States after treating the first person diagnosed with
the disease here on US soil. The unnamed worker follows the
positive diagnosis of nurse Nina farm, said to be in good
condition both treated Thomas Eric Duncan who died last week.
The Centers for Disease Control has identified what it calls a
large group of other workers involved in Duncan's care who
may be at risk. The nation's largest nurses Union now Nerdist
United has accused hospitals of failing to protect workers from
the virus. On Tuesday, the CDC acknowledged it should have
acted faster to respond to the Duncan case saying it could have
prevented the workers infections. CDC director Thomas
Frieden also announced the establishment of new units to
respond to Ebola cases.
It's interesting how the President and freed and all
these guys after the first nurse fell ill word you know, oh,
follow the protocols. We can contain this. And then this
mixed and I believe that it's fake, John, that would be
nothing would be better than to have this happen. You
embarrassed the entire establishment, the entire
administration?
Yeah. Well, that's the long term. That's the goal. I'm Yeah,
beginning to believe. Yeah, let's listen to the bullcrap
Ebola analysis.
Problem is, is that much of our innovation is driven by the
private sector. And from their point of view, Ebola was not a
predictable disease and those who got Ebola, were too poor to
pay for it. And so there's been a lack of investment, not only
not enough doses of Z map and things but they weren't even
tested there. They're only now vaccines and others going
through clinical testing. And so we really just don't have those
things on the ground. Just want to make a very quick comment, if
I can about we call ourselves the most advanced health system
in the world man. But what do we mean by that? I think what we
mean by that is is that we have the best of the best of the
world. But we also have a highly variable system. So many
different hospitals so many different emergency rooms. We
have over 3500 local health authorities
wow these these these clips fit in perfectly. You're so right.
It's this is completely moving in the direction of Obamacare.
Air has failed us and wait for it. I get it put it in the book.
Somewhere some Republicans is going to say, death panels, who
gets the vaccine death panels you watch
you won't be they won't reuse the exact same phrase. But it'll
be similar why
not? Well, you could watch the public is dumb. Why not
put it in the book, what
is in the book, put it in the book, Adam that put it in the
book.
Now I only have one more that I think can follow up when you do
your big reveal, because it's just a little it's, it's about
the nonsense of numbers that we're getting about. You Oh, we
can play this is not this is this one. This is a I give you
the the kind of the background because this short clip is a
bowl of one to 110 1000. They they're everyone's going on
about? Well, we've had almost we have 9000 cases, but it's gonna
all of a sudden become 10,000 cases a week. Have you heard
this
doesn't surprise me. We're all going to die
from a total for the last three months, which is supposed to be
going up exponentially and hazardous as far as I can tell.
But now it's going to skyrocket. And, you know, we gotta get
these numbers that would scare the public even more. It's 1914
cases are the number today, we will go over 9000 cases this
week at this trend. As you can see, the number of reported
deaths are 4447. As of this morning, we anticipate the
number of cases occurring per week by that time it's going to
be somewhere between five and 10,000 a week could be higher
could be lower. But it's going to be somewhere in that ball
what
happens if they're wrong if they're wrong life as you know
what on earth catastrophe Yeah,
it works for NASA keeper. Now. It worked out the other number
they've been throwing yet I don't know how they got this
because the guy just gave the numbers there's 444,400 deaths
out of not over 9000 cases, almost 10,000 cases this this is
like job. Set numbers come back. Oh yeah.
This is like jobs saved or created. And the 70. I heard on
NPR earlier this week. We have to keep it below the 70%
mortality rate. That is the magic tipping point number and
it's all just made up. It's made up. Show me the piles of dead
people. show me show me the boils and the bleeding from the
eyeball show me I can handle I can handle dead Palestinian
children. can't show it to me. Show it to me.
Yeah, they do that we have to remind our listeners and
producers that they have no qualms the mainstream media the
public broadcasters everybody have no qualms about showing as
dead Palestinians in Gaza dead babies, but they won't show us
this. Yeah, you can't show some something wrapped up thrown in a
in a hole. They've shown a cup once and was bleeding from the
eyes. No. Supposedly from the ears, the eyes in the mouth.
The only people I see in these tents were apparently there's
lots of crews over there, including Nancy Snyderman, then
yeah, they're filming and all you see you don't see people
with boils and blisters and any other evidence of hemorrhagic
fever. Oh, you see them drinking. I'm gonna drink some
water. I'm so sick from Ebola. You know we have a kid walking
around and laying down on the ground for the CNN camera Obama,
Ebola victim. Okay, now visit Class A here's the big reveal.
Okay to prove to you now this you should need to see the video
but I'll explain what it is. And then more importantly, who's
behind this. This is Republican cuts kill from the agenda
project, which is interesting in relation to our little show
here. And this video they're trying to make this go viral
really pushing very hard and it is blaming a the Ebola crisis on
the cuts Republicans forced through Congress.
Washington actually cuts spending.
The CDC says its discretionary funding has been cut by 585
million since 2010. Cut less government cut, cut cut budget
has
been flat since 2003. Responding to an emerging infectious
disease thread this is particularly damaging cut cut.
That was the left hook cut, cut cut the right cross was the
sequestration cut.
The NIH science budget slashed by 446 million
cuts cut tight there are outbreaks happening today that
we're not able to recognize stop or prevent as effectively as we
should be able to cut. Cut, cut. Cut, cut, cut cut.
Make a cut, cut
So you see breathing cuts kill Republicans kill people
those.
This is the counter that counter I guess, the counter attack. And
here's the first thing comes to mind when I hear this. The CDC
had 585 million cut. How big is their budget?
Well wait, the agenda project New York based nonprofit
organization founded by Erica pain. Does this ring a bell? No.
Erica pain. Well, she has a wiki page here. Let me read to you
prior to joining the here we go founder of the agenda project
monthly newsletter 10,000 political philanthropic leaders
before joining the agenda project full time, pain led the
Tesseract group, a boutique consulting firm that provides
strategy and communications served as a senior strategist
for the Roosevelt Institute. There she let's see, worked with
George Soros, Elizabeth Warren, Simon Johnson, other clients,
the Brennan Center for Justice, Citizens for Responsibility and
Ethics. And her early career she served as Deputy National
Finance Director for the Democratic National Committee,
this and so she's she's making $300,000 a year off of this
$900,000 A year grant that she gets in for this little this
little nonprofit of hers.
She's a Democrat operative
Yes, of which 150,000 is for travel. So it's pretty much a
nice life for her. And if she was told, Hey, go out there, do
something quick. And she threw together this video. Sounds
quick. I could just threw it together. And so that to me,
that to me is proof that they are scrambling trying to do
anything to turn this around and possibly, I don't know how but
someone's going to endear and embrace the nurses union. And
they better do it quick. So either. So Obama who says he's
out there hugging and kissing the nurses, which is the how low
will you stoop it's like is that the lawyers will say some of my
best friends are black or gay. Well, I kissed some nurses. It's
it's I think that's a lousy thing to say. It's
very pathetic. Yes. It's not essential either. No,
it's lousy.
And now if Bill Clinton said it'd make more sense, yeah, it's
funnier.
Yeah. And I guess we're going to see the big. The big benefit
coming soon. The Zuckerberg have donated. Tell me this is like
Gerberg. So how much was cut from the from the CDC budget?
Half a billion you said
in 585. Oh, yeah. 585. So Right.
This doesn't make sense right in line. The Zuckerberg the now
known as the Zuckerbergs Zox have donated $25 million to the
CDC, which as far as I know, is not a philanthropic
organization. It's a government agency.
Yeah, you don't donate to you. So it's like, it's like don't
what is it? Like? It's like, well, let me see government or
something. Just beyond me. This
is from Atlanta, the CEO of Facebook, Mark Zuckerberg and
his wife, Priscilla Chan. Hey, why is her name not Zuckerberg?
Because she is she? She's a vegan, and she refuses to to
kowtow to societal norms, or you might change your last name
because it's beneath her as a woman and a feminist. That's
right.
I have the same as Mickey also has kept her name. Her husband
died name. So that is a that is a thing of the modern women.
That's fine. Well, a percentage of them. But I'm not going to
allow her to make a $25 million donation to the seed was the CDC
Foundation ever foundation?
Oh, that's interesting. Let's do some research on that.
Let's Oh, you know, we have to do here to the Batcave. Oh, no.
Now, friend, what do we find CDC Foundation member guides
guidestar.org, which is kind of my go to. And let's see if there
is that is interesting. Come on. GuideStar. What are we doing?
Nonprofit that creates programs with the CDC. See, they're like
a parallel they're like a shadow government.
Well, there's where there's two. Okay, here. This is interesting
to the CDC CDC Foundation, which is in Dallas, Texas, very, very
small $178,000. But you have the National Foundation for the
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Inc, also known as
CDC Foundation in Atlanta, Georgia. I said that would be
the 120 $7 million they have
in money Five of them Zuckerberg.
And and this is from this is their 2013 filing. I'll bring
that up real quick. Oh, this is big. Oh my goodness 202 pages
I'll never get through it. Okay, but I have to take I will take a
look at this foundation. How does this work? That's very
interesting. All right, we'll take a look at that for sure.
Make a gift save a life. I'm looking at
their web page website. Yeah.
Story, our board our staff. Let's take a look at the board.
Oh boy. This will be fun. The head of the board at Douglas
Nelson who is also the head of the Annie E. Casey Foundation.
Raymond J. Baxter is Senior Vice President of Kaiser Permanente.
Oh gee, there's
our friends ago Han from GBC health one of those HMOs huh.
Lee Devlin who is a University of North Carolina school. She's
a professor Charles Dominguez offices chairman and CEO of
Cisco Systems.
Oh yeah, it's a big it's a big Silicon Valley. hootenanny.
James W
down. Mercer management consulting Matt James next
generation out of San Francisco and I just say something
Aspen Institute. We are so in the wrong business journal
broadcasting, we are really Oh, calling me No, don't call me
during the show.
During our broadcast when he was he's fighting off the fans.
Here's John Rice as President CEO of GE technology
infrastructure. Oh, yeah.
This is, of course, because those guys supply medical
devices. It's a big corrupt organization.
Here's the chair emeritus chair Chairman's that aren't you know,
there used to be their president of the Pendleton Consulting
Group, United Parcel Service CEO, Home Depot, Georgia
Pacific.
Well, Georgia Pacific makes all kinds of paper products. Yeah,
I've heard that that also that also in hospitals, nappies and
so
not sure what the deal is with this group? Well, we'll look
into that. But say, a drinking club to me to be honest about
it. Not with $26,000,000.20 Jagan by the good stuff,
if that's for sure, both. So I say, wait for the big benefit
show. To save, you know, Africans and ourselves. It's too
late for the elections. The elections are around the corner.
They can't do it in time, they can't set it out to take this
call. So you that I was calling, we had this guy, and I'll
continue with my spiel, I don't know what's going on back there
in Austin. But we had this benefit recently that we talked
about in the lawn of the Central Park in New York, which could
have been leveraged into something like this, but that
that was it. Now we're done. And we're not having any more
benefits. This is about a nightmare waiting to happen.
I hate it when someone calls you and says I want to speak to
Adam, Cory. And when I say who's calling you I'm reaching out to
Adam, Cory, who are you? I know. I never get the call. And I got
like, again, I'm on some list.
Yep, you get on a list jam to take you off the list?
Well, I was I said, I'm doing a podcast, as it was. Oh, my God,
I'll call back.
What's a podcast? Oh, my God, I'll call back. We'll finish
this up. Because there's I want to talk about podcasting for a
second. Okay.
So I think I think we're kind of done for the moment with with
the Ebola stuff.
I guaranteed a return to the four. But this is they're gonna
write this they're gonna write this point. This is better than
the ISIS pony, which they've been writing. But I think the
ISIS pony is. It's a little too, too. It's not. You know, the
Democrats know how to do stuff that hits home, in other words
is happening in your backyard is actually happening. The ISIS
thing, nothing's happening. It's bull crap. And I don't think
it's having the effect of needed effect. This scaring a few
people. But I think this is much better. This is real. Get people
going? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Does anybody mentioned by the way,
that just what Ben? What one death in the United States,
which is the African guy from Ebola, and there'll be 40,000
deaths from the flu? Is does that mean anything or 40,000?
Car accidents? Yeah, there's relative does relative
statistics, because these people were so science oriented. They
don't seem to care about their actual numbers.
Well, so this is the point either way, and that's yes. But
I just want to bring it back to say, Good job on the newsletter
because you certainly jarred me and we'll talk about the
caliphate later, that all you everything you're seeing right
now that is a crisis is just a political move to make you vote
for one or the other party. Now you want to say something
you ever noticed how many people and I've just day after day hear
from somebody? i The people don't. Republicans hate science,
and they don't like science and they're anti science at all. And
the People are saying this are usually people who graduated in
social studies. I mean, they're not none of them are scientists.
Oh, no, no, no 1000 People that are scientists that have signed
a petition saying this global warming thing is, is, is needs
to be re examined. And they nobody pays attention to that.
And they're actual scientists, but it's like Joi de haar? Yeah,
you know, and there's people that many of them are high
school dropouts. And they're all in on this so called science
that they don't know anything about science either been a
scientist never works in science. And science says
science says Simon Says, one clip to wrap it up. Just to show
you that Chris Matthews who is obviously on MSNBC, yes. So he
of course is on board with the messaging. He did something
beautiful. And he went from Ebola to Republicans hate black
people in one sentence. Wow, that was really good here. Good
evening. I'm
Chris Matthews. In Washington. The nurses name is Nina farm.
She took care of America's first Ebola case. And now she's the
second and the man made virus called voter suppression this
weekend in North Carolina is Kay Hagan where the Republicans are
out to cut the Democratic vote or simply screw the black folk.
Screw the black folk. Wow, you want this 20? This guy's a
genius. He goes right into this. Here's our answer.
So is this based on a racial is a racism or an partisanship? Why
are they trying to screw the blog voted to put it bluntly? Is
it because they don't like blacks or because they don't
like Democrats?
And I think they are trying to suppress Democratic turnout.
So it's classes with African Americans think that they're
being targeted? Because they're African Americans. Doctors are
Democrats? Well, you know, I tend to agree with them. So it's
both.
We hate the black people. Republicans hate the black
people. Oh, my goodness.
Yeah. They're shameless at MSNBC. Shameless, and they're
always playing the race card. They're the racist.
John, this is egregious behavior. This is this is
calling in the head half of the voting American public. Or yeah,
I would say close to half depending on however you want to
count it. Of the voting public. Racist. Yeah, publicans hate
black folks. Screw you. I'm not a Republican. I'm not a
Democrat. But I'm an American. I'm I'm offended by the whole
notion of what he's saying that there is a political party in
the United States who get together and talk about how much
they want to screw the black folk. My goodness. The how,
luckily, no one watches it.
Yeah. Only the true believers watch MSNBC and they're already
thinking that way. It doesn't really affect anyone. What would
that I would like to thank you for your courage. In the morning
to you John C. Dvorak.
Well, in the morning to you and in the morning to all ships and
see boots on the ground, feet in the air subs in the water and
all the Dames and nights out there. Yes.
And in the morning to all the human resources there in the
chat room, no agenda stream.com and to our artiste, back with a
vengeance. Nick, the rat on episode 660 was good to see
Nick, with his submission. And it was tough. We talked about a
number of them.
Yes, we had a hard time with that last group. But Nick, the
rat was clearly I thought he had the best messaging. It was
nicely designed. He had a good layout, actually. It was it was
a good looking piece. It really
was. And the thing that's hard is sometimes the piece is right
arm, but we want to use the theme in the title. And we've
come up with some rule. I don't know why we had. The rule is if
the topic is in the title, it can't be part of the artwork. I
really don't know why we have this rule. But why is that? We
decided?
Yeah, we like the idea of redundancy. We would know I
think what it was was there was a snack slap Mike made that lip
smacking sound? I think it was it was we like to have a
creative artwork that kind of expresses part of the show. And
then a title that expresses an overall part of the show that
doesn't isn't reflected. I don't know. We just that's what we
decide. That's the way it is exactly.
We just decided one day and that was the meeting.
Yeah. And that's the model we use.
So let's think of some people that will the model we use truly
is the value for value model where people give us the amount
they think is the value that they received from the program
and sometimes you look at look at your health care payment. I
think we're probably keeping you healthier than Obamacare. Oh,
absolutely. Your mental health is extremely important. And we
are helping you protect yourself against the onslaught of the
Negative frightening messaging. That is that is
not healthy. Everybody knows it is distress provoking and not
healthy. Correct. And we show you that is probably in most 99%
of the cases. I'm sure something happens once in a while. That's
accurate, but 99% is bogus created news is it's exaggerated
is done to it's created to frighten you in this case, too.
So you vote for a certain party at a certain time because you're
fed up with the other party. Yep.
Because they're just they're bad. They're using
you. Hey, black folk. It's a it's a it's the system is
corrupt? Yeah. All right. Let's thank a few executive and
Associate Executive producers for show 661 including Philip
001, who came in with 86667 which matches his previous
donation of 133. These are these came in his wire transfers he
sends in from I think, Czechoslovakia I haven't know
Czech Czech Republic is what the Czech Republic okay, it's
different. But there's no checklist. I think the Hello
1980 calling. Yes, look on the line for John C. Dvorak.
Here's his note in the morning gentlemen, with this donation,
I'd like to thank you both for your excellent work and give
value for value. As I lately sat in my chair in the garden. I
looked up at the stars while listening to your show,
surrounded by the darkness and thinking about all the crap that
is happening in the ruthlessness of our globe. If felt quite
happy to know that you both are watching them. Besides the giant
amount of information you provide in your show, which use
several times, which I've used several times in my own blog,
digit, Chun di g i Chander ch o n D, E r.ch. Which I believe is
CH I believe is Switzerland. Digit chanters digit chunder
single di G H under C H O N D E r.ch.
I wonder Yeah See, I thought ch was Switzerland as well. Well,
he's
in any swift No, he's in Switzerland.
Czech Republic on the on the spreadsheet
I don't see anything Oh, I probably put that there like an
idiot. I enjoyed every time it's even bigger fun to listen to old
episodes before I started to listen earlier this year to see
which of your predictions have come true. All of them and if
any, if you ever come to Switzerland Be my guest.
Oh, this isn't your zoom.
If you don't know where he is. He's in Switzerland somewhere.
Although it's a small country can drive around pretty easily.
I accept his donation to complete my knighthood from
there on I want to be called Sir Phillip Paladin of common sense.
Oh, it makes me make sure that is on the spread on the donation
list.
He's in Gruen wig. No, wait, no winter hurt there. Vinter
Okay, give it to me again. Sir. Okay, hold on. It's not on the
thing. Sir. Philip, yeah. Which is
with a F. Yes. And one L Paladin of common sense.
Paladin of common sense. Now, I hope people will be able to hear
me pronounce it with an F and not a pH. But I don't want to
mess it up.
They have an interesting name. Switzerland does go along with a
lot of interesting names. Yeah. Like a female name and
Switzerland is regular. Which I just think is just the you know,
it says I think a Greek goddess or something. It's a great No,
I've never heard anyone outside of Switzerland with the name
regular.
Well, I have to say Philip, thank you so much for this this
fantastic donation support for the show. And I very much look
forward to the ceremony today. knighting you good sir? Does he
want any kind of well, should we give him karma? At least I think
is that what he would want? Yeah, give us a lovely I love
handing out the karma. You've got karma. That's all I got.
Sir. Donta masa de Toronto came in again with 37373 So 373 770
threes. kettleby Ontario, Canada, just some karma for the
freeloading. boners. Remember, I don't know why we were giving
karma to the freeloading bonus but Okay, remember kids a guilty
conscience increases the possibility of contracting Ebola
by 33%.
All right, got karma. And I think actually, I should give
him a little it's it's an interesting number, the 37373.
So I don't know if he's a hammer or not. We must be served on
Tommaso de Toronto.
Once you play that little Ebola jingle that new one that's a
little song that ends with Ebola. I think he bumped
somebody should do the the old Calypso song Ebola Ebola Ah
That's a beauty who did that?
That is Paul. Paul did that
outstanding outstanding Jason Berg in Portland, Oregon. 333345
decided on my knighthood name and I would like to be the night
of peacock lane.
Oh, wait a minute. Do we have this in the
make sure after so many years of listening since DSC, I would
like to be deduced and have a little girl Don't eat me
followed by Shut up at science. I've added my extra penny for
the Anita Penny cup on the counter and hope for a little
karma for everyone listening.
Okay, so he wants to de douching he wants Hillary Don't eat me
Hillary and then it's science and then karma obviously. I
think I can do that. You've been de doop Hillary Clinton. Shut up
already. You've got karma nailed that one. Thank you. Thank you,
Jason.
Daniel Hochstein in Surprise, Surprise, Arizona 33333 John and
advertise my first donation towards the executive producer
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blue?
But his blue? knighthood Yeah. knighthood
when he does his first donation, he says, Hmm,
well, that he's already he's even on the list. Let me see if
I can. I think
Eric did a search for knighthood saw this and put them on the
list. Saying him so he's not on the list. So
Eric needs to stop drinking.
Ken Thank you, but he actually just
touchy subjects. No, he
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All right. Now I have a disappointing anonymous note
from Parts Unknown, it was given to me as a check at the twit
this place. And I want to say that I would have stuck around
with this couple and chatted more I was a little annoyed by
the last show. But these I'm gonna send you a copy of this
note, this is one of our chocolates, apparently, somebody
you met. And it's kind of a private note. And I just want to
say it's a very nice couple, husband and wife, beautiful
wife, and it just was good meeting you both as 333 33. And
you don't have to say it. I'll say it. I think you were a true
gentleman view. You stood up and you you called people out
appropriately. And I think you were very, very good on that
last show.
Who else? Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, you didn't see anybody
else.
Oh, I got a lot of notes about that.
Theresa Huxley far Hills, New Jersey $333. Flat. A note from
the wife of night Jim Morgan of steeplechase. Any no agenda
listeners are welcome to come out to our spot at the steep
steeplechase this year for brisket from Texas pulled pork
Can Cabo which I assume is the sparkling wine from Spain, I
realized that I had not donated in a while when I kept seeing
versions of the number 33. While on route to New York City, I saw
333 and a column on the path PATH train. I've never seen it
in eight years. My Exodus 33 In New Jersey, I just wish I could
get some of the jingles out of my subconscious while we were
visiting. Play that one that little Ebola one again, I just
love that one. We liked that one. But again, one more time.
Good. It's a jingle quality
I like it. Well, we were visiting friends in Barcelona.
They played me an ad it must have been if you see something,
say something on the metro. Oh, hold
on. Hold on. Hold on. I might as well.
Yeah. And yes, I sang it out loud. Also, thank you for pay
playing judge Jeanine statement that America faces the sink.
Biggles biggest single threaded 200 years ago, she's a
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Yes, I finally understand the idiotic ready.gov commercials
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Okay, Todd Moss, I have this the note I lost. Ah, Todd did Todd's
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I find it, well, do
I put him on the birthday list? Or why
does what's the 15th is today what and how yesterday is his
birthday was yesterday. How old is he?
He didn't say okay, he's on vacation, though. Yeah, he's
not listening to this show. But I don't know why he has to go
back and pick the show up. But he likes to listen, I guess
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Catch it. You can kind of get the gist.
You couldn't be listening. We could be dead. And then you'd be
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That's a tough one. I
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submissions and all that but I would love to do this I think
that will be fun. You might even fire up the D star John I'll
fire up everybody thank you very much for your support and
remember that the most important thing you can always do is go
out there and propagate our formula
is this we go out for yet people in the mouth
need to get you into the topic since you probably forgot you
mentioned it there was going to be a podcasting Hall of Fame at
at this year's Las Vegas New Media build those guys do
anything to get me to Las Vegas won't. Now I'm not I never see I
got it best.
Famous. And ladies and gentlemen. The first winner of
the hall podcasting Hall of Fame is Adam curry. Let me see a
whiner tweet about that as bullshit
They'll build they'll induct him at the same
for you and Weiner and that's it.
Well, let's see why started podcasting Hall of Fame. We've
been talking about creating a podcasting career to come to
give us a speech with being the 10th annual Podcast Awards. 10.
Holy crap. Yeah. And the colocation with NAB show next
year. It just felt like the time had come to start canonizing and
celebrating the icons and pioneers of the podcasting
community in a formal setting. Yeah, but
the NAB Show,
the podcast. Look, I'm only coming if you caught my room,
and I want to hookers and blow for my friend, John.
They have to comp your room at least
eligible nominees would include podcasters technology
innovators, there's your Korean wiener right there. And others
who have pioneered the medium. Well, John, you're in?
No, I haven't. I mean, I've been around but you're a pioneer the
medium? Well, yeah. 25 years from now when people look back,
I'll look like one but I've been doing this for a long time.
You wanted to say something about podcasting? Apparently.
That's why I
was Yeah, I think I think you segwayed I think you took care
of it. No, I was there's here's what I'm gonna say there's a
bunch. I've noticed this guy I've gotten calls if you're in
any we need to talk to you about podcasting. Sorry,
there you go because you're a podcasting pioneer if you're the
go to guy well I'm the
analyst go to guy maybe well that's good enough. And and this
is showing up from the New York Times Washington posted there's
been a couple of articles written already and then we of
course leave you out or they mentioned you and there was one
I think and I don't know Fast Company or something. There's
all these articles are very surely
shallow, you've set them straight
and but they're not there's more of them coming that's it they've
triggered an avalanche. Everybody wants to know what the
heck's going on about pirates I'm gonna put together I'm if I
can do it, I've made me do it this afternoon dis I normally
don't do free speeches. I just don't like so bad policy, but I
may do one eye there was one I used to do for the big photo
Expo they had in Vegas and there was I used to do this speech I
did it for about five years called film is dead and this was
done during the era when film wasn't dead. And now I'm
thinking because I just wrote a column and PC magazine I don't
know if it's up yet or not but I wrote one about broadcasting is
dead and I'm thinking that NAB be a perfect place to discuss my
thoughts on how broadcasting old fashioned terrestrial
broadcasting is dead. Okay, and I made you there maybe so I may
actually be in Vegas if it's at an A B I would be there and I
could probably go to this thing to have their simultaneous
has NAB asked you to do a speech
no no there's a there's open is open competition as we speak. I
know I can get get a slot if I wanted one. What's
your your John C. Dvorak. Podcasting pioneer Hello. How
hard can that be like stop? We got a call from the moron.
Podcasting pioneer. What does he want?
He wants to speak for free? Yeah, bring on Yeah, I think I
can do the same speech like on a you know, a semi annual basis.
Broadcasting is dead while broadcasting still alive. And it
would draw that's funny. I get to meet all kinds of guys. Yeah,
you know, what's your what's your
thesis then? Because I don't typically like okay, here's my
Can I just say what I don't like okay, I do not like the.dot.is
dead because it of course isn't that wasn't a living thing. It's
not like you know Paul's
I'm glad you feel that like that means fine I don't care what you
think in this case because something is dead is a draw.
Okay, when it's not dead All right. Wait a minute, it's not
dead. How could it be dead?
I gotta go see this guy who does he think he is? Oh it's the
mouse guy. Oh
yeah the mouse guy mouse is dead I should do
is dead. Well it is for the mouse is dead. It's all
touchscreen as it is yet ultimately you were right.
Long time for years. But there you go and alright. So
all right. So you want to give us a bit of your of your speech.
I mean, this is
the thing and this is what I point out in the column is the
difference you know the the Internet has snuck up on these
technologies and snuck up on newspapers in a very you know,
the newspaper guys will add will say to you honestly i How can we
didn't see this coming? And I thought about this because they
are the big prognosticators visionaries are the ones
supposed to they're doing the news, they should see this
coming. I mean, that's what you think. And I saw I used to harp
about it to these idiots and see it coming. But the more I think
about it, they didn't see it coming because it didn't just
come. It snuck up on them
and I would say I recall going to Tribune there in Chicago
Tribune Media. Yeah, that'd be Chicago. And when I had my, you
know, my big company was building websites for a million
dollars for Reebok back in the good old days before front page
came out. And and they they, so they had said, Oh, no, we're we
I would have a whole technology department was always in the
meetings like, we don't need you can take care of that.
Management just wants us to talk to you. But what they missed was
Craigslist. That's really what killed newspapers. Well, I have
the that was the secret. The secret way they made money was
was classifieds
in the back door? Yeah, I had. My best story was when you were
at the meeting, it was at the Chronicle with Phil Bernstein.
And he said that Craig Newmark came marching in to talk to the
examiner chronicle executives, as he was developing Craigslist.
And as it was already available, offering it to them. And the
newspaper guys said pi. Why do we need you and it makes for we
know how to do classifieds. Was
I on this meeting? Yes, sure. I must have been Hi.
Yes. Thank you. And he says so we threw him out. He said and
there you have it. That's There you go. But again, you know,
it's they didn't, they weren't. These guys in the news business
are not visionaries. And often they you know, something can be
handed to them on a silver platter. And they won't take
because they're very arrogant. They're very
few. That is the word they are truly arrogant. Right? Because
they think they control the world in the control policy. And
that snuck up on them. They don't and now they have to admit
that no one was taking ads for their news. The money wasn't
coming from their excellent reporting their PII body butts.
No, it was the money was from classifieds, which is indirectly
related to their reporting. But when it comes down to people
saying, what is the value of that news? Nothing.
Anyway, so I continue this argument. And here's the nursery
broadcasting and the newspapers and magazines, with the
newspapers and magazines going online, you end up with people
taking their news differently, they take it off of the screen,
they only look at a page or two, they don't have a newspaper
anymore to thumb through. It's a different end result as they
switch from, from newspapers to online. I
personally think it's in many aspects of poor product. No,
I agree to I'm all in on that. But it's, there's nothing you
can do about it. Now. With the broadcaster's it's the same. At
the end of the day, you get up you have a show, let's say you
have one of the things on Netflix and is still on a big TV
screen, you have not changed your experience at the end of
the day,
my show is in the beginning of the day.
And with the podcasting, it's essentially radio and I use the
word because it's the only word it's appropriate. It's radio
that is transmitted over the internet instead of over an
antenna. But but you have it again the product when it's when
people set it up correctly is a non trivial part but you're
still it's like the people who listen to it on their car.
That's what they used to do. They used to listen to the radio
on their car now they listen to a podcast on the car. So the end
result is identical than it used to be that changes how this how
the delivery mechanism how everything I mean it changes the
model at the beginning of the formula and this because we had
little guys can produce a radio show the way we're doing it that
sounds as good as anything produced on the radio itself and
we're little we have more freedom and a lot better results
and we don't have time constraints that say now you got
to hit hard stop we don't have any we got
to take a break here we got to weather on the eighth so let's
go to our let's go to the the channel for weather copter and
let's see what's going on there. Do we have fill our eye in the
sky up there
great now that was traveling let's take a look at the weather
weather is whether Yeah, well we figured something else out we
figured out the true model then it's that people can do
Kickstarter and all this stuff. Sure. But that is a one time
deal and it really doesn't hold the the producer the programmer
of the of the product to account below yo I got my money in my
pocket and I just gotta make some stuff. It's like as a Frank
Oh guy was the biggest disappointment to me. Who is a
frank remembers a Frank No, I don't know what you say Frank
was this guy. I who did a video thing and he cut it up really
tighten it and it was funny, really quick cuts. And just most
of the time, it's just his head talking. And then he had a whole
community and it was Ze Frank Ze Frank ze comm you'll see it,
you'll remember. And he did a Kickstarter, which was hugely
successful, because he won't do a whole year long programming
with Imran I put my money into the Kickstarter. And then you
know, after like six months, you got an agent, you got other
things to do and the DOM consulting here or there, they
blow me say, Frank. So that was disappointing. Whereas we live
from paycheck to paycheck, pretty much. Yeah. And we, then
we know,
the show that is not available in any way in any medium for
people who appreciate this sort of analysis. And there seems to
be enough of them to, to get us keep this podcast going. And we
want to thank every one of them, including the people who give
lesser amounts, every once in a while somebody sends it a check
for $5 or something like that. It's really appreciated. People
are also $5 Monthly, we have some family, I think it's the
Ganesha who came with his, but I always marvel that this,
somebody like the way the bank sent out these automatic
payments through the time payment plans to the show,
there's somebody that does it by hand themselves, and they have a
little check, it's a very small check with the address and
everything on it. And it goes into a special envelope that's
got a couple of holes in it, you know, glassine molds that have
the mailing address and the return address, which is also on
the check. And the end is the queue is 20 bucks everyday it
comes down to once a month. It is the cutest thing I've ever
seen
cuter than the kittens in the news. It is so
cute. It's like oh, look at this. It's like a miniature bank
check. And none of that I get amused by the easiest the
simplest of things.
News, John, breaking news on the hill, Obama vows more aggressive
Ebola response, they
are government attention to himself. The arg Our
representatives are up there grilling people off so stupid a
waste of time. Okay. I had two drinks last night with our ex
banker here in in Austin, you know, the the New Yorker, the ex
banker for big bank and who's retired with his kids, you know,
the kids we talked about? Right? And, and it's always good to get
his perspective on the financial markets. And they are in turmoil
right now. And there's some and he said, Oh my god, I can't
believe one of the guys you hate is all on board with your
theory. I said what was this? He said, Ah, did you not see the
New York Times? No, I tried to avoid that, you know, it's like
he bola Tom Friedman, who I just think is one of the premier
douche is of our era
that is also an agent
in the New York Times in his column said, Hey, am I crazy? Or
are the Saudi Arabians in? In what is the word I'm looking for
upon the command of the United States, purposely screwing
Russia by increasing output and lowering the price of oil? And I
thought it was interesting that Tom Friedman made this point.
Yeah. And it also appears to be pretty true that this is taking
place. And but the according to the banker, there's a much
larger impact. And really what is happening is, Europe is so
screwed. Then you're adding all of these market instabilities.
It's in fact they call it what did the BBC called the perfect
storm of the spread of Ebola. The the dropping oil price. It's
screwed up Greece's refinance refi of the refi of the refi of
their bonds. And, and ultimately, he came down to the
thing that is the biggest problem in Europe. And this this
is what gave me pause to think about what is really going on
there because we talk a lot about the immigration and the
multicultural society. According to the the numbers and stuff
that he studies, the EU unemployment in particular, the
youth unemployment, which is in some countries 40 50%.
Spain, yep.
The problem is a lot of these unemployed are immigrants who
have no skills to actually be employed in those countries
where they have immigrated to. And by the way, why should they
because the system in these countries and in the EU in on
mass, gives them subsidy tonight, you know, not die and
they get handouts, and it is systematic. And he says the only
way is inflation. They need inflation. Which I've just take
his true due for what he said I suppose
they probably do but I don't think that's going to solve
anything well I said
why don't we just have Germany attack France? Which is what
your he laughs He said yeah, that'd be wars Good War would
help me okay.
Yeah it would probably they give those does unemployable no
nothing something to
do Yeah. But it was interesting said that they might have been
flaked on it
eh unplugged show I missed it I haven't heard it yet. We looked
at you know the oils down to $80 from behind bird and it's
falling is gonna continue to fall along with gold and silver
which is interesting and that's that's that should be the other
way it shouldn't that these things aren't going going as
normal as they're supposed to you know, it's supposed to be
like a teeter totter one goes up the other goes down but it's not
that way. And then the Euro finally is heading south and
it's down to I think a buck 26 Maybe today is lower. And so
we're getting because I was predicting Buck 25
Good work everybody
in May had to parity which would be one to one which now if you
go visit Europe again without getting ripped off, yeah, pay
30% premium on everything and in an area that's the prices are
already too high. That you know it's it's all looking good for
us. As usual.
Here's a quick Diddy on this. This Russian Saudi
vice presidents of the Russian oil giant russneft has accused
Saudi Arabia manipulating the oil price for political reasons.
If I leave it as remarks come I'm gonna be forced to Saudi
officials I've given the green light to lowering oil prices.
This Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries
OPEC is willing to accept the prices as low as $80 a barrel
for the next two years. You know, the EN TF also described
it as promise a big discount says political manipulation,
saying the kingdom itself has been manipulated. Moscow needs
high oil prices to prop up its economy, which has been hit by
sanctions over Ukraine as well as a drop in domestic demand.
Russia favors oil price of around $100 A barrel to cover
Moscow's future spending
price is too high oil should be 40 Yeah well as traditionally
been 25 to $40 a barrel and it's only recently in the last five
to know five to 10 years but jacked up to 100 this thing when
it starts to fall like this and when you have Russia that they
look at the gross receipts what they ended up doing what other
people do because it's now down to $80 just they pump more right
so it just makes it worse to get the same amount of money we got
to pump you know 20% more oil so we pump more and that forces the
price lower
I think it will go to 50 I hope so oh my goodness wouldn't that
be great for us? Yeah. Oh man
it'll lower air fares isn't you know the most of the their plane
ticket is because of fuel is so we can travel a little bit
without costing an arm and a leg and it would improve every
everything will improve substantially if the if the
price of oil goes down to 50 and it could Yeah
Kerry did a solo little interview thing the little
speech about how important he is oh wait about a jingle and a new
jingle for him to on got all kinds of stuff going on here
today where is yeah this one this is short version I think I
kind of like carry watermelon head carry There you go. Nice.
Okay, another kid. This is now this is a he's I think carry
things. It's today but I believe it's tomorrow in Italy. Big
meeting. We got Ukraine. We got Russia. We got a Germany and but
we're not at the table. Yeah, but we're not at the table. And
and yeah, this is the it started with the three way disks. Well,
yeah, because Kerry's a douche. I can see Putin going don't
invite the douche. We don't want to do here.
There is an agreement reach. In addition to the Minsk agreement,
the Minsk agreement is rarely discussed in this country. But
this was the 12 point is actually the Minsk Protocol to
be specific, the 12 point peace plan or 15 Point peace plan that
has really been working between Russia and Ukraine. You know,
we're not copping to it. Of course, we it's really we're
losing out. I think that Putin once again, has done something
very smart and is not working out the way the Nudelman and the
Kagan's wanted to work out for Chevron. And they're going to
Putin is going to strike a deal with the EU with Angola, who's
in there, it was their two sides of the same coin. And I think
Carrie mess this went
through further discussions between President Poroshenko and
President Putin, where they've agreed on some timelines on some
of these things. You. And there will be a further meeting this
Thursday in Milan, Italy, at which President Porsche
Thanks for clarifying where Milan is
present together with President Holon. And Chancellor Merkel,
possibly others. And they will then be reviewing these
requirements, as well as the gas deal other things. So we'll wait
to hear from that meeting and the results of that meeting sort
of where things stand at that point in time. There
you go. There you go. Mr. Kerry.
There's a guy running for I think the US Senate in Delaware.
And he was promoting the idea of these Republican I think
Democrats and incumbent. And he was promoting the idea that
Delaware is a poor state. And it has a the biggest single
reserves of either frack bubble or raw natural gas that this guy
says we should go after. So we can ship it straight to Europe.
And I saw that in Texas. I think there was three or four shows
ago, I put it in the show notes somewhere, there was a request
to reverse the terminal and ship as ship imported gas back out of
the country. Interesting enough.
The imported gas, yeah, in
gas that we'd previously imported, which I think is all
it's just on spreadsheets stuff, because yeah, it's counting on
paper. You got some here and some pages, take that piece. And
while we're on the topic of a little bit about Europe, I want
to play this France apparently is a big deal, because I didn't
you know, I always it's annoying when you go to Europe and you
happen to be there on a Sunday or if you arrive on a Sunday.
Why? Because everything's closed? Well, there's a lot of
stuff closer Unless you're me if you're in the big city as a
whole and you can get into the hotel, but generally speaking,
there's laws against being open. Actually,
you know, in the Netherlands, the stores are closed on Monday
until noon, or 1pm. Why a culture, it's probably some
Protestant thing from 100 years ago that stuck the past.
They're going to change a little bit of this and I'm not sure
where it's going but play this France, and Sunday openings,
etc. With businesses today. She started with a proposal that
could well shake up the French working week. Sounds very
controversial. Listen to me, though, we're actually
going to go to work more than one hour a day, working on
Sundays in France Exactly. As
we know from living in here in Paris, it can be really
difficult to find a supermarket or at pharmacy, anything open on
a Sunday. Now, these changes have been proposed by the
Economy Minister Emmanuel Macron as a way of showing that France
is really trying to turn its economy around. Remember, this
is coming in the context of the French budget, which was
submitted to Brussels yesterday, and is which is expected to be
rejected or at least sent back because it doesn't comply with
EU regulations. Now that Kant says that deregulating some
tightly controlled industries, like pharmacies, and allowing
stores to stay open on Sundays, would help boost economic growth
by making it easier to do business and make the French
working model more modern. But it's a thorny issue here as Josh
Vardy explains,
it's been a controversial topic in France for decades now,
French Minister of the Economy, Emmanuel Macron, has promised to
allow French shops to open on Sunday, it was stated
contrary to existing ideas, French people already work on
Sunday, simple they say this, so everyone just calms down a bit.
Almost 30% of all French people work on Sunday or occasionally,
every week.
Currently, French businesses can only open five Sundays a year,
that limit will be raised to 12. Commercial hotspots will also be
earmarked for Sunday opening places like tourist sites,
airports, railway stations, or stadiums.
Yeah, get on the stick France are going down the tubes.
Now there are two things that caught my attention about this
little report. One is that by law, you can only be over an X
number of seconds. I mean, this seems a bit much. Hey,
this was back in the day when they were living. Hi. And then.
Yeah, but by law, you think if you had a business, you'd open
it when you felt like it. You
know, I want to be John, these are socialist countries. Right.
I
realized that but the other one that struck the little note that
struck me was that the budget, the French budget is going it
goes to Brussels and it's going to be rejected because it
doesn't comply with EU regulations. Yeah. Isn't this a
bit of the sovereignty loss of friendship along with the law
regulations?
Yeah, this is the travesty that is the European Union. This is
exactly what it is. The loss of sovereignty through a monetary
monetary unit which is the turns out wow. But how important is
money? When it really comes down to it, banking union, the
political union, there's going to be all these unions, it's all
and it's just a bunch of technocrats unelected people
sitting around in two different offices because they couldn't
even decide where they wanted to have the headquarters, the
European Union Strausberg or Brussels. Now, it's ridiculous
and the French are just waking up to this. I was reading.
There's a guy, John Ward, who writes the slog blog. He's a
Brit, retired, used to be in the advertising business, and he now
lives in France and he's writing about this stuff. And you can't,
you can't do anything without the appropriate paperwork of
everything is run by what do you call them? Not had notary
publics. Everything has to be notarized to be official.
Everything's strange in there, everyone's worried and the
government is going to change this complete. They're in irons,
they're to use a nautical term in irons. They don't know what
to do. They truly don't know I would say the same for the
Netherlands, which we know intimately. No one knows what to
do or how to how to move or there's no trust in anything is
ruined, ruined I think for 50 years before these countries
come out of this crap. Conservatively speaking,
well is it's well you can play the second part of the France
short little bit.
selectivity means more profits hula because there are tourists,
sometimes French people who come on mass at the weekend and on
this will create jobs, jobs.
Under the proposal Sunday workers would do it voluntarily
and be paid double. It's a policy employees at DIY shops
have been asking for for years. However, leaving Sundays as a
sacred days and idea deeply ingrained in French culture and
opinions are divided, much fancy. day was a day of rest.
Everything is open. Everyone was in Europe, France isn't as
strict as Austria, which forbids any shop opening on Sunday.
Instead, it's moving slowly towards the UK Oh, Swedish model
where shops can open when they want.
Well, they have to they have to harmonize all regulation, which
is why you can't have weed legally anymore. That's all
going away in Amsterdam, because you can't have one state where
it's different. This is all has to be the same. This like we're
getting that here, too. We're getting a lot of that. What did
the President
we're also getting marijuana laws changed. They kept Well,
true,
true. But we had the Presidential Proclamation to
important week National School Lunch week. Why do we need that
but more importantly, presidential proclamation, blind
Americans Equality Day. And I thought this was so much like
that Vonnegut story that we talked about the Bert Berger on
harrow Harold Berger on where in order, it's almost like in order
to have blind Americans Equality Day, we're going to poke out
every American's eye. So that you know now at least we're
equal or equal with the blind citizens. And I looked into
this, and it used to be called something different. It was
white cane Safety Day. But you can't say that anymore, you see,
because that's discriminatory, whatever it is, it has to be
Equality Day. And I'm sorry, I liked
a white cane Safety Day. I'd like that to wear of the white
canes and when you see somebody poking around with one you drive
carefully now but
now we have to we have to have equal No, look, I bet we all
have some some handicap some version, not equal, but I like
that being aware of our our citizens a bit. We'd do as much
as we can for screen readers. I mean, boy, this has been a thing
that JavaScript by the way as Rex if you want to talk about
equality for the blind, the outlaw JavaScript it's very
difficult for the screen readers to deal with that.
I agree. I don't like JavaScript either. Even though my son makes
a living coding it now
so yeah, you know, quality equality. I'm just gonna I'm
gonna stick with white cane Safety Day. And don't here don't
pet my dog Safety Day.
Live a good clip here that I want you which is kind of a
equality situation. This is the Kelly Atlas clip whose this was
what happened in San Francisco Kelly Atlas is a animal rights
activist and there's a new term in here I want to see if you can
find find the term it's a new term I actually clipped this for
the story itself and then only heard the term when making the
clip into a clip
Andrea? Well, Liz can specifically the meat and
chicken they were eating this happened at a restaurant in
Santa Fe Cisco, but this group says other restaurants can
expect the same. Imagine you're eating dinner and this happens.
That's Kelly Atlas of Direct Action Everywhere. We're
speaking out on the plight of snow, or chicken, and I can see
you laughing. The video was shot October 1 at Bluestem, grocery
Atlas and others want equal rights for all animals, not just
cats and dogs, and other cute non food species.
And we're so enraged when we hear about somebody hurting a
dog or a cat. But because of the speciesism in our minds, we
don't think twice about a chicken being heard or a pig or
a cow shill
for chicken Snow was rescued from an egg ranch. Atlas says
when snows egg production peaked,
I see the suffering that she faced and I'm so happy that I
took her out of there. And I want the same for every animal.
The group with its bay area hub in an Oakland Department says
it's not their first action on behalf of animals and won't be
their last and that they're always looking for new
restaurants to spread their message. Is there a concern?
That while you're spreading your message and maybe speaking on
behalf of snow, having the opposite effect on people that
instead of listening to you, they're simply going to be
ticked off by you.
So some people well,
I honestly did not hear one species ism. Oh, I didn't hear I
didn't hear the word at all.
Yeah, no, it was
ism. This is a
sexism and racism and ageism. speciesism. Write that down.
Yeah, it's a classic. Wow. Incident. Classic speciesism.
Yeah, it's
hard to say speciesism in
my Jizan.
mean, it's hard to say on species is not uncalled for,
because I'm sorry. speciesism uncalled for? I'm sorry.
speciesism. Yeah, she said that when Kelly Alice first came on
the show, she asked, and she says, the chicken. The by the
way, anyone who owns burgers or has vaulted chickens are the
worst. They're stupid. And they they're annoying. And they're
everything. No. And of course she wants to rescue chickens.
And she's her chicken is snow, the name of her chicken, some
white chicken eggs laid eggs, someplace or other and she has
this chicken that she's so glad she rescued. Come I see
it differently than we go to the market every Saturday. Then
farmer Chris who who loves his chickens, and they all they all
roam around. He's very into the whole organic boom, no voodoo
part of it with a man on the moon and when it rains and the
grass and how they operate. And yeah, of course, the older they
get, you know, the bigger the the eggs are of these. We love
the big eggs, big gigantic eggs. And then at a certain point,
it's time and then you know, then it's time for the chicken
to move on. And we appreciate the animal for this for the eggs
and then later for the chicken that we eat. You can respect it.
But yeah, if we can not all end the cycle works this way. If you
want to be vegan, vegetarian, fine. That's okay. But the cycle
does work this way. Stop interrupting my dinner. And
restaurants is going into restaurants are doing this.
Yes, she's going into restaurants with a group of
holding signs. And then she has everything by a tent. You know,
it's like the best like the eight holes that you run into on
the New York subway.
I don't I haven't been on that in a long time. Well, the
there was gone for a while during the Giuliani period, but
it's back and so you might be on a subway train and here comes a
guy with his guitar. Saxophone or just nothing. Ladies and
gentlemen, I'm not here to beg for money. Oh, yeah.
I know what you're talking about. Yeah. Pay no attention to
me.
Yelling this one. She doesn't really she does it in a she
writes. Yeah, she's in there. She yells real loud. She's, you
know, I know what you're doing. You're eating chickens. And let
me tell you about my chickens No. Chicken you have no idea how
loving she is and all the rest of it and it's just like, get
out we don't need this sort of aggravation. There's other
there's really important things going on that are much more
important than her stupid chicken.
Yeah, well I think you know animal rights are rights and you
know and it's important I buy like respecting animals and I
have to say I think having dogs I think cats are a different
story because the you know, the cat chooses you and shows up and
whatever but I find dogs is having a dog is cruel. By its
very nature. Having a dog on a leash and Boy Yeah, come on time
to shit now now poop now I gotta get to work.
dogs enjoy this.
Dog. Yeah, the dog doesn't really care. I think you're
right. Did you see James risin on The news hour. I missed it.
Uh, James risin. I think he's, you
know, it's funny because I wanted to see that because I
knew he was showing up somewhere. Yeah, he
has a new book out. Right. And he's New York Times journalist,
I believe.
Yeah, he's the guy that they want to throw in jail for life.
Yeah,
well, he's gonna, they may just kill him for this. I really
appreciated this little ditty that they put on, on PBS no less
next to the author of a new book on the costs and lives and
treasure of the war on terror.
The War on Terror, the global war on terror has become
essentially an endless war. It started with a search for
justice. And I think 13 years later, it's become a hunt for
cash.
It's a stark conclusion James risin has come to in the decade
plus in September 11, the veteran New York Times
investigative journalist is best known for the explosive
revelation that the Bush administration ordered the
National Security Agency to eavesdrop on Americans without
warrants after 911. But now he has compiled examples of what he
sees as that hunt for cash, greed for power and lives
wrecked in his new book
payments, his new book, The no agenda show, it's what it should
be. Book
pay any price. The title of the book comes from John F.
Kennedy's inaugural address when he said, Let every nation know
that we shall pay any price. bear any burden. me any
hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, towards your the
survival and the success of limiting
your argument is that that any price has been way too high a
price how so?
Well, we have had 13 years of war. Now, a lot of people have
gotten into the war on terror, in order to make a lot of money
or to gain status or power both in the government and outside
the government.
Yeah, this is not a good book to have flapping around. I was
impressed. I'm like, Okay, I'll definitely read your book. And
then he had he brought in a term which I think is weak. But I
understand why he chose it. And again, they go back and find
some historical footage, which I find interesting. An interesting
choice for the for the for the program, maybe to somehow
discredit him as old, an old thinker or something, I'm not
sure we built
a huge infrastructure for what we call homeland security here
at home. And so we've had an enormous just hundreds of
billions of dollars poured into National Security, Homeland
Security, and what I call the home what what I call the new
homeland security industrial complex.
That is a play on Dwight Eisenhower's famous phrase, the
military industrial complex, coined amid the Cold War rise
and describes a new apparatus for a new war built in parallel,
and almost entirely in secret. But with a staggering price tag.
There are estimates that the entire war on terror, if you
count, Iraq, Afghanistan, all of the other things we've done,
both domestically and internationally have cost about
$4 trillion. And that is an enormous transfer of wealth into
a new sector of the economy, which is security. Yeah.
And as we said, that's how we roll. Yes, right. That's how we
roll. That's correct. If that's why we can't just remove it
because it is a he correctly points out a big sector of the
economy. And along with it seems very obvious to me that the
things were that are happening right now, particularly with
ISIS. ISIL is two part one, you never you never really want to
change a team in time of war. So when you're gonna go vote, and
why would you want to upset everything and have Republicans
come in and ruin everything? That's no good. We're at war,
but also long term long term signaling to the military
industrial complex. All as well, all is good. We will continue to
have war. It's just going to be a war without boots on the
ground, at least not visible boots. It'll be Academy
Blackwater, whatever you want to call them Z. It'll be some
mission mission, a mercenary army. And this is the President
going back to a Starfleet Command setting there where he
was sitting in front of flags that weren't even American. It
was a very
strange, like regimental flags.
strange, strange, I would say, and he made it very clear, long
term
at this stage, some 60 nations are contributing to this
coalition. If you can name all
60 I'll give you $1,000 I can't,
including more than 20 coalition members who are ripping out here
there are six now
that's a lie
today, among them, Iraq, Arab nations,
Arab nation Just Arab nations, hey, if you're an Arab nation,
raise your hand without talking. Thank you,
turkey, turkey, NATO allies and partners from around the world.
So this is a operation that involves the world against ISIL.
It's the world
as far as it goes. Well, you got more on that.
Yeah. I want to get to the long term, but bit 30. So far, we've
seen some important successes. Oh, stopping ISIS advanced on
our bill saving many civilians from Master.
But that's one from Mount
Sinjar, retaking the Mosul Dam, destroying ISIL targets and
fighters across Iraq and Syria. Obviously, at this point, we're
also focused on the fighting that is taking place in Iraq's
Anbar Province. And we're deeply concerned about the situation in
and around the Syrian town of Kobani, which underscores the
threat that ISIL poses in both Iraq and Syria and coalition
airstrikes will continue in both these areas. One of the things
that has emerged from the discussions, both before I came
and during my visit here is that this is going to be a long term
campaign. There are not quick fixes involved. We're in the
early stages. As with any military effort, there will be
days of progress, and there are going to be periods of setback.
But our coalition is united behind this long term,
long term long term.
Tell me tell me how that jives with this clip. Yo, because he
mentioned Turkey just way up at the top. Tell me how it jives
with this clip.
This issue of of military bases in Turkey is an issue that
continues to be discussed between American officials and
Turkish officials. On that front, well, I think that might
be obvious from the public comments from both sides. But
this is something that we continue to discuss
the Obama administration's pressure Turkey to take a more
active role against ISIS. While Turkey has requested a buffer
zone along its border with Syria. The dispute comes as
Turkish war planes have bombed one of the main groups fighting
ISIS, the Kurdish Workers Party or PKK. The Turkish military
says it acted in retaliation to PKK attacks. The strikes are the
first by Turkey against the PKK. Since a truce was reached in
2012. This is
very interesting. This is another one of these complete
dichotomies that is that they have no way of explaining. And
of course, Turkey has been killing and fighting the PKK in
in Kurdistan in northern Iraq for many, many years. And by
killing them off there. This is not really helping with the
overall mission. And there was the Turkish Government said,
Well, you know, we're not really going to do too much after Kerry
had said, maybe the President has said, Oh, it's a president,
Turkeys on board, everybody and Kerry got this question. It was
the he only took two questions. This was the last question from
I think a woman from Bloomberg. Which ties right into turkeys
participation or not. And their NATO. Are they non? NATO? Yeah,
these guys, they're not on board with the program.
Mr. Secretary, National Security Adviser on Sunday said that
Turkey agree
with Susan Rice she was she was talking about that. Yeah.
Coalition use of its military bases, and Turkish officials
have denied such an agreement was reached. And also Turkish
military has begun striking PKK targets, which one could argue
weakens the joint fight against IOSH. So can you clarify what
understanding you have with the Turks regards to their role in
the fight against ISIS? And what is their policy on this? And how
cashable is it?
And Carrie was the whole time he's not happy with this
question. For brevity, I cut out a lot of his pauses, is dramatic
bullcrap. And went straight to this question.
Turkey is a very valued member of the coalition and is joined,
the coalition is doing things that the coalition is committed
to things in the coalition. And as far as I know, there is no
discrepancy. As far as I know, with respect to what is going on
in general algorithms there. He had long meetings with them. The
meetings and his judgment helped me move the ball forward. And so
I really think that Turkey obviously has a very important
role to play in this process going forward. And I'm confident
that that is going to be further defined by Turkey itself on
their timetable as we go forward in assigning and undertaking
responsibility
Here's how much how much waffling can you do and his
tongue is flipping out the whole time. I'm lying. I'm lying I'm a
liar. Liar. You know what they're gonna do knowns you?
They're activating for Tula. Gulin that's what's happening.
Oh yeah, you want I think they
can do that would put the Turks back in his stand. That's what
I got. Yeah, that's what they got it they've got to they've
got to start causing a ruckus up there. And I don't understand.
Why do you think air Dhawan is doing this? John? Why is he not
on board? Why is he not participating? It? What do you
think? I mean, I really am racking my brain about this.
He seems to be supporting ISIS. And I think it's very simple.
Let's just take a look at the basics. Okay. He is a Islamist
Yes, he would have been hung by his by the neck until dead
yonder older circumstances in Turkey before the EU came
around, said you couldn't do this because it's a human rights
violation. And so they cow Turkey because Turkey wants to
be in the EU desperately. And so they left this guy in and he got
rid of all the generals killed most of them and got just got
changed the military completely. So it's now very Islamist, and
he's on board with me. He's an inland Islamist and he hopes
that at some point, he can Co Op the ISIL ISIS group and be and
be the big leader of the next giant caliphate. I really think
it's just he's with them now not against them. That's why he's
killed these guys attacking him.
How does that fit in with his hatred for Assad? In Syria?
Assad is not an Islamist, he's one of these Westerners, right,
who hangs hangs out with Westerners dresses like one and
all the rest, he's, we would love it to get rid of that guy.
I mean, we have to remember that Irwin is an Islamist, he would
be dead in there under older circumstances, because it was
illegal to have a NA, you know, he's not a secularist. He's
concerned, why
don't we go into Turkey and give them some freedom?
I think we tried that, during that the last round of riots in
Turkey, where they had to go over the park to remember and
there was all hell breaking loose. And we had to Google in
this behind a lot of that, but that's essentially us.
Sure, but the Gulenists are kind of failing and then what
everyone is kicked out everyone who is
because everyone is the sharp operator. Yeah, yeah, he knows
the knows the ropes and he is and he knows that they all have
support comes from the the the Hicks in the countryside that
voted him in, who are all a bunch of very stringent Muslims.
They're very fundamental. And I think he's rolled in with these
with the ISIS guys. He's probably supplying it with
stuff. And that's why he shot all these guys. Oh, it's because
of some previous beef. That's why we interrupted this attack
on the ISIL. Army. I think it's just that simple. Well, we don't
know what to do about it.
I don't understand what is Turkey? Oh, I guess maybe it's
turkey. Being a NATO member is the problem. You can't really as
an EU, NATO members don't typically attack each other.
Although, I'm sure we could figure out a way to make it make
it work.
I don't know how it's,
ma'am. Okay. It's a real problem. It really is. No
turkeys fly in the ointment. And we already tried to screw their
economy. That didn't really work. But whoever's running the
show on this, it's just not doing a good job.
That's Carrie, and that mistake was bad with Hillary.
You're right. Yeah, it was better with Hillary. Here's the
latest from ISIL very funny, and I I really implore everyone to
watch this video link in the show notes, of course, from CNN
on the new ISIL training camp video. Have you seen this thing?
No. It is beautiful. And they get some guy and this is very
meta when you listen to the report. You get some retired guy
to comment on this video. A training video of ISIL recruits
crawl through simulated barbed wire with trainers firing as
they line up to have their torsos kicked. The last man gets
the honor of a knee to the body. A fighter drags a cloth mat with
a rope fastened to it to rescue a wounded comrade. As they're
pulled away. They're fired. That
is the stupidest thing it looks like mash with all these tents
and everything like everyone's in a big meeting in the middle.
But the tents all have the U S stenciled on them. These are
American army tents that they're in, which makes little sense
when you hear the rest of this conversation this report.
This is the latest ISIS propaganda video called the
blood of jihad fighters in basic training. Is this anything that
they would use in aanbod right now anywhere on the battlefield,
almost never
this type of hand to hand fighting with autumn attic
weapons, mortars, artillery, vehicles almost never really
occurs throughout this entire video, what you have is a stage
set of exercises. You look at them and this really isn't a
training exercise. It's a video exercise propaganda.
Exactly.
This is the meta part. It's only propaganda when the mainstream
media is showing it to scare you. So yes, it's propaganda and
you CNN are propagandizing it. It's this is so obvious to me.
They're not reporting. You don't need to report on this by
showing it if you if it's propaganda, you are
propagandizing but
somehow ISIS has captured most of Anbar Province and come
within just a few miles of Baghdad International Airport
tactics have they deployed Iraq combat veteran Douglas all
Yvonne says on the battlefield ISIS has previously used when he
calls a React contact drill. Now listen to this. That means in a
firefight, they make initial contact against their enemy
using the smallest number of fighters possible, maybe three
or four
and then put down fire so that because those three or four guys
can then keep 2030 of the enemy focused on them. Then all
of us says a larger group of ISIS fighters comes around
flanking the enemy on one side finds a weakness attacks it.
This is something that the US Army Ranger Regiment has really
practiced for years. It's been their hallmark.
Okay, so we have us tense, and we have tactics practiced by US
Army for years. What are you telling me? What am I supposed
to understand from this?
Yeah. I think goes to understand if you really paid attention
that this is a US operation. Yes,
it is. It's just now it's just disgusting. Hagel went out there
begging for some money to politicize all of this. He had
some lunch in. And of course, you know, ISIS is so frightening
and Isola. What is the whole point? What is what is part of
what we need to do? We need the secret station, we need to turn
back the clock, we need more money.
Now I want to show something about before you say this a
sequestration, which is the stoppage of it didn't really cut
any budgets. It cut increases in budgets. Yes, correct. And we
always seem to forget that the military budget was x, and they
wanted to be x plus 20. That's funny. Sequestration didn't even
cut the hole plus 20. A cut like made it to plus 10. It's funny
how the media is just not really reminding us of that simple
fact. And Hagel doesn't do it either.
Our soldiers deserve better than that, yes, they deserve a stable
and predictable budget that gives them and their families
training and the support they need, why they're not going into
combat anymore.
But despite temporary relief, sequestration remains the law of
the land. If Congress does not act, it will return read
Republicans suck in 2016, stunting and reversing the
Army's readiness. Oh, just as we've begun to recover. Oh,
we are so not ready. We just don't have enough military stuff
going on. John, I think we need to get more money in there. We
just don't have we're not read
and requiring even more dramatic reductions in force structure.
That would be horrible. The military as a whole will face a
similar readiness crisis. If Congress does not accept the
program cuts and compensation reforms. We have proposed in our
budgets,
most of his entire speech is all about just need money. We need
money when he moved more money. We need more money. And then of
course, we need to sell this still to the press corps who are
Josh Earnest,
you know, before you go on with that, which I would just thought
comes to mind. This guy. I mean, Obama's gonna want to cut the
budget. But me or cut the increases sequences
sequestration was a was was that not the President's idea
that was now this guy, as far as I know, works for the President.
Hey, well, yeah. Yeah. What is the presidency? This? This is
very fishy to me. But what is the president? Just tell him to
shut up? Or take a walk?
I don't know. I don't know. Because I think Hegel is a good
guy at heart. He's dumb. We know. We know. He's dumb. He's
dumb in the political sense. He's not politically savvy. That
mean his whole confirmation hearing they do over and say,
Oh, I'm sorry. We love Israel, whatever his problem was, he
screwed that up. And everyone's like, Oh, it was a mistake.
Don't worry about it. He's fixing it. It's all good. We'll
talk about that anymore. Now we have Josh Earnest, which is just
a funny name. I have to always chuckle when I hear Josh
Earnest. Yeah, joshing is making jokes in earnest is in all
sincerity. And he has the perfect way to explain, again,
what we're not seeing when all we're seeing is stock footage of
jets flying. We're seeing stock footage of rockets being fired
from a ship. And then we see some grainy black and white
footage of a truck. And then the the flash of light in the truck
has gone. And we've done 700 sorties or whatever the number
is. We're really seeing nothing but he key has the proof.
But there doesn't seem to be a lot of evidence on the
battlefield, that ISIL is being degraded or destroyed. What
evidence can you provide that the campaign is exactly?
Well, what I do is I'd refer you to the Department of Defense
there, they're conducting battle damage assessments of the
airstrikes, and they have periodically conducted briefings
to talk about the results of those airstrikes
in our province, their miles from the Baghdad airport, not to
mention what's going on in Syria. Aside from the individual
number of airstrikes, you know, we're dazzled by 700 soar to
things numbers like that. But what hard evidence can you
provide that people can see that the effective strategies?
Well, again, for for a tactical assessment of the of the
airstrikes, I'd refer to the Department of Defense, they're
the ones that again, they've conducted briefings a couple of
times with maps. Exactly what the targets were and what impact
the strikes had.
John, they have maps, wow. Maps to show you exactly what they've
done. Maps. Uh huh. You better believe it now.
Well, I have a clip here that I want to talk about for a second.
And you do earlier he talked about there's no way of
explaining the discrepancies as a lot of no ways of explaining
certain things. But this discovery of chemical weapons in
Iraq Yes. Is the most interesting have no way of
explaining because it just brings up a bunch of and again
there's probably political motivations here because it
looks like something they're blaming on bush. Oh, why not?
And because it earlier you know, we talked about something and
they blamed it on Bush because you know you gotta get try to
get that mean back that's not gonna work because you know
Bush's but
I'm just trying to understand it's hilarious. Was it not the
funniest thing to say at dinner parties with Oh, bots that I've
had? Wow, they Bush and Cheney. They took us in on false
pretense. There were no weapons of mass destruction. Oh, crap.
And now, they're, they're actually trying to say there
were weapons of mass destruction. And it's Bush's
fault. We didn't get them. Well, well, let's
listen to the two clips.
A new report says the Bush administration conceal the
discovery of chemical weapons in Iraq that had been developed
with us support in the 90s.
It was hilarious. I know we need a laugh track for this way.
We're
praying. Oh, God, can we find some proof of something? We need
prove anything? No. Now they concealed it. Oh, and we got the
proof. We just didn't want to show it. We'll take all the
we'll go to International Criminal Court. Wow, a nice and
then denied medical care to the wounded American soldiers
involved. According to The New York Times, US troops secretly
reported finding over 5000 chemical warheads, shells or
bombs after the 2003 invasion. All the capital chemical
weaponry predated 1991, just a year after Saddam Hussein
stopped being a US ally and recipient of the Western
military aid that helped build his arsenal. At least 17
American and six Iraqi troops were wounded in their handling
of the munitions and six separate incidents between 2004
and 11. The weapons existence was kept from the troops
entering those areas and officials denied the victims the
care they needed. One soldier talked about his health problems
as a result of chemical exposure.
I still have residual blisters every now and then I still have
a lot of trouble breathing. I have a constant headache. I
haven't not had a headache since 2008. The only thing I can think
of is politics. doesn't jive with the story they wanted.
Wow, this is Agent Orange all over again.
Well, there's a couple of elements here that are unique
one, all the weapons existed before 1991. And when they
showed the stockpile, which could have been fake, but they
showed a stockpile. It's there. Obviously American made
well, yeah, we sold that. That's what she said in the report.
Kinda Yes. We sold them to them. Yeah, he didn't say it. This
angers me for a number of reasons. I, of course, I truly
believe and there's depleted uranium, all kinds of things
that have gone on. And you know, we have Sergeant Fred, who's one
of our biggest supporters, producers, who you know, he has
all kinds of medical issues still from Agent Orange. And
it's just you know, there's no help no hell but now that put
painting this on bush that, you know, oh, when it tried to turn
the VA scandal around now, this is disgusting.
Not Not sure what they're trying to do, but play those part two
is a very short clip,
in addition to raising new questions about the neglect of
soldiers health and the Bush administration's false pretext
for going to war. The disclosure also carries implications for
Iraq's ongoing crisis. The Islamic State now controls most
of the territory where the chemical weapons were found.
Oh yeah, nice double hit there. Yeah to hit on Bush, which
should turn some voters for and then we have a hit on. Oh, yeah,
we found these in the I guess around 2008 or sooner because
that's what we're looking for to get our own chemical weapons out
of Iraq. We found them and left them there for ISIS and ISIL.
Yeah, really? Does this any this story make any sense whatsoever,
this story is completely bull crap in every which way.
And I would just like to see some actual video footage of
what is really going on. And they don't have it. This is just
like Libya. We never saw any of the airstrikes on Libya. I'm
sure it happened last
don't forget the handing out the VA or so everybody could rape
women. My favorite part of the story.
There's this this fabulous story from the Netherlands and this is
so mind bogglingly Dutch. There's this motorcycle club
called No surrender. Then in motorcycle clubs, slash gangs,
I've always had a very interesting position in Dutch
society. We had the Hells Angels. And when I was growing
up, and we had guys like big Vilem, and I forget all their
names. But there was some kind of respect from the from the
public because these guys were a Mickey said we're talking about
coffee this morning. That kind of like the police force of the
underground so kind of like, in way like the New York guardian
angels, but not really because they never really deal in the
drugs directly or in the killing or anything, but they're always
somehow involved. And a lot of these guys started this
motorcycle club called No surrender. In 2013, and the
Dutch also there's a there is a motorcycle culture. There's a
lot of reasons why this is why this is happening. But in this
one of the cofounders was velum hole later he was this may be
nothing anybody but the Dutch. He was the guy who was convicted
of kidnapping Freddy Heineken, the the guy, the Heineken guy
who we remember, wasn't maybe 20 years ago. No, not while Freddy
Heineken was kidnapped. And it's to this day, you know, how the
ransom was paid and who was involved. And it's very, very
sketchy. So this guy was involved. And I think the deal
of the big villain guy, whatever. And they have now
received from the mid the interior minister, and pre came
out and said and approval because they they were saying,
You know what, we're gonna go to Syria, and we're gonna go fight
against ISIS. And the interior minister said, Well, you know,
as long as they're not fighting against us, then it's perfectly
legal, and they have my blessing. I'm paraphrasing. And
now this motorcycle gang has become like the hero of the
Dutch. Because they're gonna go over there and kick some ISIS
ass in this it's too bizarre for words
is nuts. How are they managing to do this?
Well, they're getting on their bikes in the drive, riding over
there, and rifles on their bikes. Just a knife and a gun a
compass. I don't know what they're doing. But then and the
dacha I'm looking at the tweets and i That's why I asked me Have
you seen anything out anything on Facebook about this? Which
she hadn't, but you have to kind of know the no surrender name,
but even the name no surrender. And, you know, the Dutch has an
army, you know, we have a couple of f6 teams that are doing
something they never really mentioned. By the way, they keep
forgetting to put them on the list of of the coalition. It
stops at em. Netherlands is never on the list. And so now we
have the new heroes. This is This is bizarre. It's a truly
bizarre
it's just to keep that story in the news it's, well it's working
the Nola stuffs everything works.
And then I have a thing here that was just blew me away of a
native advertising bit. Then you tell me if you can fit this as
broth you tell me if you can figure out this is a whole
series on CNN, who was the who was the what is the native ad
for and it's more than just product placement. It truly is a
native app and all
week CNN is presenting a special series routes our journey home
see that journalists have traveled across continents
finding hidden details of our family histories. My own journey
took me to Israel to Poland and to my hometown of Buffalo, New
York. Here's a preview. I feel like I've been robbed experience
of having grandparents, 6 million Jews were killed during
the Holocaust, and I saw the documentation there. Place of
extermination, if you will, whatever it was called
Auschwitz, that it really hit me that I knew that's where I
wanted to go.
So what is the native ad? Who is this an ad for?
Well, it either be for one of those websites that you can
trace your heritage to, which is got a lot of money. Or Israel.
Well, you had it right the first time. ancestry.com Yeah, that's
it. That's the one which is the Mormons. It's huge. The Mormons,
and they have this new product called Ancestry DNA, where you
do a DNA test. This is a new product $99. And they're,
they're sponsoring this entire show. So they you see them do a
little DNA test, and they figure out who they are, and they go
trace their roots. And this is an ongoing series on CNN covered
up as content.
Yeah, well, that's what you do. Know what kind content No,
that's not what we do. No, no,
we don't do that. No, we don't do that.
I'm going to show my son little by Jonah to no agenda. Imagine
all the people who could do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fun.
We not only don't do it, but we expose it when we find it.
Nobody else does that by the way. No, of course not. Because
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to your podcast and he has had help from his friends. Okay,
anyway, so you got a birthday coming up anonymous. And $90.12
from Rome in Texas
or something long no or there's something about this douchebag
long note. I want to reiterate that just for time
consideration, we cannot read and and play jingles for every
single note we read everything that comes in but can't do it
for this part of the show. Just we it takes up too much time.
But we do highlight stuff from time to time when possible and
we do birthdays and we do you know when appropriate douchebag
call outs can
we do as you kick up with some quotes from certain people that
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also came up with 6969 from Squamish BC ice and so we have
two people. This is interesting. This is the kind of random
number theory of two people from British Columbia both donating
6969 Nobody else donating 6969 Nobody else from BC. That is
just too unusual. I
bet you they're having sex.
Peter and Michelle. Yeah, West Bank at North Shore West Bank is
anywhere Squamish
hop skip and a jump from Squamish.
I thought maybe they're probably meeting in spasm. Charlotte
Mitchell in when Nachi Washington $69 Charlotte. Lent
is Suzanne Suzanne Lynn, I'm sorry, what am I thinking?
Suzanne Lant. in Meadville, Pennsylvania. She's got the note
that I have to read. Uh huh. She sent this in as a check.
And by the way, I forgot to mention when you send in a check
with a handwritten note, high chances we read that because
that is preserving handwriting and saving us money and fees
that she has readable longhand. Did she send pictures? No. But
she sent a great note. Because it's disconcerting. This note is
a little bit disconcerting on one hand, but then kind of
uplifting on the other hand, this is what we have to read
this note, just a little contribution to help us keep the
best podcast in the universe going Hey, at first, I was put
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Vague suspicions are put into words in a very thorough and
entertaining way. In other words, your suspicions about the
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Thank you, Suzanne That's very nice, and we're happy that you
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I just found it interesting that someone would see and I think a
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format we can use to do what we do. What do
you mean by format? I mean, under Format I understand. You
know how we start off you know, we do where They're in traffic
on the aides that hit the brake hard, hard stop for the brake.
Right if you're used to listen to the public broadcasting
approach, where you talk like this in a soundproof booth, he's
might find this again we have a more lively high energy
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They do it here too. And then they want your money it's their
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This is for all the $5 a month there's the five show the four
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really makes a difference. It really makes a difference being
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automatically every, every cycle that you would desire. And we
get it, we get it, we've been promoting this quite a bit. And
we've gotten a good amount of checks now. And I think
we're one of the few people who, who really push the checks ID.
And of course, I think it only really works well in the United
States of Gitmo nation. But I can tell you, I live by the
value for value model, whether it's karmic, or whatever it is.
And somehow, it feels really good. Like, I have the, you
know, the synergy project software we talked about. So you
can use your mouse across multiple computer screens. And I
use the audio rec Suite software, which is also open
sourced by a couple of radio guys who are also programmers.
And, you know, you send money if then. And I think there's
sometimes surprised, like, No, this isn't how we live, this is
how I live? And could this work in the real economy somehow,
that's about it. I don't think that would really work with IT
value for value. So you have to have price setting, does it only
work in Creative Industries, or
it used to work in public broadcasting, right, until they
became early days of public broadcasting, where they were
mostly educational shows, and less promotional shows, it was
all donations from the local citizenry, and they would watch
television and watch these these very educational shows and
broadcast and they were supported. And they've staked
the foundations got their nose under the tans and, you know, we
get to help you with bigger amounts of money. And then they
then they when they're corrupt, so that started was a corrupting
influence. And then, and then those gravitated towards
advertising. And then the government got involved, and
what are you gonna do about the government getting involved in
your business by them financing it with the Corporation for
Public Broadcasting, and all these other governments
supported, which, by the way, oh, is
the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, they're the
commercial arm, they buy and pay for the commercial programs,
which are made by producers who are commercial producers, like
PRI, and even PRX, you know, trying to push their products
onto public broadcasting. And then they turn around and gift
it somehow to the local stations. You know, there's a
commercial entity and then and that that commercial entity is
selling the ads with traditional radio ad salespeople. It's a
very,
about five years ago, on this show, we had one of those
recordings that was done by that gorilla group that would take a
traditional ad salesperson that was working in PR and had them
at lunch, kind of blowing the lid off the whole thing. It was
not the guy who does those videos.
Yeah, the guy who does the videos, him and his girlfriend,
they go around some place and then they say, Yeah, my
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do it for podcasters whatever your intro, even music, I think
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Today we congratulate Isaac Chase, who celebrated yesterday
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and escorts order, maybe just some button Denmead which is
really quite disgusting. Well, I need but the mutton is not that
one of my favorites.
Can I ask you a question about society in general?
My favorite topic.
Now what is the difference insofar as the possibility,
let's say 20 years ago, using maybe an early digital camera or
a little compact film camera or something like that? Or even
going back 50 years for all that matters. And taking an upskirt
picture, which you might want to do. And today doing the exact
same thing. 50 years ago, today, 50 years ago today, okay, what
is the difference?
The difference in what way the in the in the end result in the
equality
is you took you can take 150 years ago, you can take one
today, is there a real change? That is important enough that
changed all the laws in the country? Ah, Hmm.
Well, I would say the difference is and I didn't know, the
difference is I did yeah, the difference is the share ability.
And 50 years ago, you kind of could show it to your buddies,
and he couldn't replicate it all over the over the interwebs.
Okay, that would be I guess, but I still would, I think up
skirts, I there was a period when I looked at upskirt
websites and went, huh, that's pretty rude.
Yes, very rude. Well, let's listen to what Queen Latifah
says on her show about this topic.
Oh, wow. Well, I got I'll tell you a
video, a cell phone. And what this judge was saying is you
don't have a reasonable expectation of privacy when
you're out in public places. So when you're on a train, you're
on a bus, you're at the Lincoln Memorial, if you're sitting with
your skirt and your you know, legs, expose your arms exposed,
anyone can take your pictures, and it is not illegal. That does
not feel right to me that everything about that seems
wrong. Yeah, you know, I think the judge got it wrong. I think
the judge took this very narrow interpretation of this
antiquated, outdated law, and didn't, you know, take into
consideration that today with phones and, you know, smart
technology, people's privacy. We're not private fingers just
because we're sitting out in a private place or public places,
right? Which, which I think is going to get very tricky because
as technology advances, and as everyone has a camera phone as a
cell phone or some sort of video recorder, we're going to have to
judges and legal experts, you guys are going to have to figure
out how to adjust those. I'm not exactly sure how old that law
is. But you're going to constantly see these sorts of
cases coming around where judges have to adjust these laws to
apply to today's the American polity. Days.
Hold the phone for oh, are you still there? Yes. Okay, I'm
good. Hold the phone. When I hear this. I know that this has
come up before on the show. I went to searched on na
shownotes.com During this clip and put in the word upskirt.
Episode five, nine or eight Massachusetts Supreme Court
rules upskirt photos taken without permission are legal. We
have discussed this. And this is now back.
Yes, this is the word photography
Littmann 598 Nuts probably not in the no agenda player. So I
couldn't find that that's too old. Ah. So this why is this
back and where were she talking about Massachusetts again? Or
was this something like I
think it was a second case. I think it was Another case that
came up and the judge did the same exact thing based on the
first case, I think this is the new K interesting.
I have this, this video clip or something we played on 598. So
give this a whirl and see what it was. Yeah, just this is
interesting that this happened. Lawmakers
in Massachusetts are looking for their own solution. After the
state's highest court caused outrage. The justices ruled
unanimously yesterday that a man accused of taking pictures
underneath a woman's skirt on a commuter train. Did not I
repeat, not break the law. The practice is
known as upskirting CBS News LEGAL ANALYST Ricky Clayman is a
Massachusetts trial attorney. Good morning. Good morning.
Okay, how is this not illegal? Yeah. Well,
it's dreadful. It's creepy. You mean something that none of us
want to happen to ourselves or to others? But if you look at
the language of the law in Massachusetts, it's not illegal.
Why not? Well, the
why not is because the way the legislature had drafted this law
says that a woman has to be nude or partially nude, and that she
has to be in a place with a reasonable expectation of
privacy. The law was about peeping toms, you're in your
back,
there was a peeping Tom law. Um, I'm looking now at the show
notes for five, nine or eight see if I can find any other
supporting articles. So okay, so are the this is just coming back
then. I guess if this is are we Oh, I know. We're gonna do.
Let's blame it on Republicans. Does that make any sense?
That's a stretch. I don't know. So the Apple iPhone users to be
honest about it are Democrats.
So here's what's interesting. Did you actually watch the Queen
Latifah show? I'm asking very specifically, because you had
told me we had a conversation a few weeks ago. And you said,
Craig Ferguson is worth watching. Yes, because he's on
his way out. And he's got this big payoff. He doesn't care. And
I agree. I watched the show dynamite hilarious. And even
said ladies and gentlemen, you're watching a foreigner who
doesn't give a crap and it was so true. And after Ferguson, the
Queen Latifah show comes on. And this is, um, she had I know why
I stayed watching because he had Lisa Ling on bliss rolling
whereas there's no new show for whatever Lisa Ling I thought
maybe get some clips from it and didn't really find anything.
Right. But she had this clip of this outfit outfit called my job
chart. And in do you mind if I just move towards this for a
second been?
Fine? I don't really have any other point to make about this.
So while the Queen Latifah show it, it's pretty every it's one
big native ad. And it started off I don't like
the Queen Latifah show. I don't either. Like a lot of these new
shows the that one horrible one, which I can't remember the name
of it is the worst of the group. But anyway, go on.
The one horrible one that you can't remember. Okay. She starts
off with a callback to this dove campaign, which I like, which is
how, how mothers influence their daughters about self image. And
it's very revealing, but it's, it's a commercial for dove. And
this dove is Unilever. Very smart, they know how to do these
things. And they, I would say they were the they are the
leaders of native advertising. But then this native ad comes up
with a PR video of my job chart, and I'll play the PR video. This
is the whole thing not from the quality for show, but from their
website at my job chart.com. Today,
more than ever, parents are facing a serious problem
consistently teaching kids the benefits of work and the value
of $1. It is becoming increasingly difficult for our
kids to get away from things like video games and TV harder
and harder for parents to raise kids that know how to work and
be responsible. Conscientious parents have tried everything
from paper charts on the wall, reward cards, posters, stickers,
you name it, it's been tried. Finally, there is a solution for
kids growing up in the digital age my job chart.com right job
chart.com teaches kids to work in a fun and productive way.
With my job. chart.com Kids love to log in with their own
password. Their choice for the day.
Are you at my job sharp.com
I'm just sitting back listen to this bull crap. And while
a little bit more of this list, go to the Products section and
you'll see what this is
my job chart, complete their chores, they earn points,
points. These points can then be used to save, share, or spend.
My job chart is revolutionizing the way parents teach children
financial fundamentals. Oh under technology. My job chart teaches
kids to save, share and spend
and it goes on a little bit long. Now what was he going to
click on? products in the top menu.
This is website the appraiser How did I miss this? It can't be
at my
job chart.com
Oh chart okay, but s
what this is you This is teaching children how to be debt
slaves. So you get a you get a mobile app and then you make up
your bed by your
score that kind of I get no server not found a way this WW
when things knock in there let me get rid of that. It's really
hard. It's just like, you know this. Have you noticed this a
lot of the browsers and they kick back to the previous thing
you typed in? Yeah, browsers
are some parently broken through
there dear here, I just erased the dot that I left on there and
it put it and I went to click on it and boom, it shows up again.
I go back to the same dead side.
You know what that is? It's obvious is screwing with your
browser. So financial products for kids while you're gotten
there? This is sponsored by and this is a front company for
Capital One. So the kids get points. And then we those points
that Yes, right
there. Yeah, product. Apple one featured debit cards
for kids. And then financial products.
Justin, thank you. This is a this is your this is this is
your find of the day. This is gross. Yes. Gross. Ebola.
Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. So much job. charts.com. It's
disgusting,
scary, and wretched and miserable. It is gross. Yeah,
yes. That's this site. Yeah. My job chart. Wow.
And, and you know, when when I was growing up, we had something
called Grit. I think we've talked about that before. Grit
was a newspaper, sign up and you deliver this newspaper, which
nobody read?
No, nobody know when I was a kid and you get points. You could
earn a bike, which you never earned. As a kid X ray glasses
or something.
You could actually get a real job in a real company and buy a
car when you were in high school.
Tell us about those days, John. Those must have been great, huh?
It was. I didn't realize until recently how great it was.
It was wonderful.
I knew a good a bought a Corvette new. Wow. While in high
school.
I wanted. I spent all my money on CB radios and stuff. Oh, we
did that too. I remember one time I took two buses and a tram
in Amsterdam to go to the army surplus store to buy a gas mask.
And to this day, I'm not quite sure why I did that. It was
Lula up was for this gas masks are cool. That
was kind of cool. And I had in my room. And then you know
friends have come up with one case. Hey, can I put the gas
mask on? Yeah, man. Sure. Go ahead. Give it a shot. Try the
gas mask. Strange. So yeah, so this is this is the Queen
Latifah show. One big native ad. And yeah, disgusting. I really
did not like the interest
see the books of that show because it's all native
advertising. It's a once in a while she talks about something
like with this situation with the upskirting couldn't find a
native ad in there but I'm not
sure why that was that that's being brought back that maybe I
think that just had a hole in the in the show and needed to
plug it with something. Maybe like a two things. Yeah. One
more getting women to vote Democrat. Yeah. Got this is from
the White House. And again, I got two separate emails for the
two different courier.com email addresses with different a
subject headers but the same body in the message though,
doing lots of AV testing. And this is the White House
whiteboard. So it's one of those things that we don't lie if
you're
doing a B testing and wanted to hear the two headlines. Okay,
that I know how much home
White House will always be of interest to me.
Yes, I'm sorry. I am. That was actually done that I didn't to
keep that. Let me see. I'm looking in my I wonder Ah,
so they're almost a million dummies who have signed up for a
779,000 people have signed up for my job chart. Really? Yeah.
Okay, so I have I don't know if I have this one specifically,
but I do have. Here's an example. From the White House
jobs day, this is when the numbers came out. That was
version a version B. The jobs report d y funkified. As the as
the alternative was just straight jobs day. Uh huh.
capital J, capital day D
Yeah, that is not a good headline under any circumstances
you don't test against crap. Well, anyway, okay, I just
wanted to know how to if there were if this were talented
headline
writers. Yeah, I'm sorry. I said, Okay. Now I know I have to
keep them. I feel stupid because I should have been at least
written it down. So this is the whiteboard where you see a hand
drawing with a voiceover that I hate that me too. It's and it's
overused and overdone. And but they promise under two minutes,
which under two minutes to explain the minimum wage
benefit. The benefit to Americans having minimum wage,
but wow, does this make a turn? Right almost from the beginning
to say hello women vote for us not for the other team.
I've been hearing the President calling for an increase in the
minimum wage. How low is the minimum wage? Actually,
think about this. Today, the minimum wage buys you about 20%
less than it did in 1981 when Ronald Reagan took office.
Meanwhile, a subway fares higher than it was in the 80s. So it
was a week of childcare. And so as college tuition, has your
landlord been handing out rent decreases? Didn't think so.
So who exactly is earning the minimum wage these days? The
typical minimum
wage worker probably isn't Hey, think she is
probably isn't who you think she is.
More than half of those who would benefit from an increase
or women, more than half of them work full time. They're 35 years
old, on average, and more than a quarter of them have children.
Take Sarah, a wage earner in South Carolina. Here's what a
1010 federal minimum wage would mean for her, it would cover
more than 24 months of groceries more than seven months worth of
rent more than 38 months of electricity. More than 1700
gallons of gas.
Let's zoom out for a second. What's the big picture look like
here,
raising the federal minimum wage right now would lift 2 million
Americans out of poverty. 28 million American workers from
all types of households would see their wages go up. Plus, it
would strengthen our economy and our businesses, because
consumers will have more money to spend and businesses will see
higher product
but you get the point. Wow, it's all about women. Not Not a
single mention on your right.
Everything we talked about on today's show can be hooked in
somehow some way to moving votes from one party to the other.
Yes, doing it. This is gonna be by the way, a theme of every
show we do until the election. And then. And then when the
election is over, we will all of a sudden see a whole different
news profile that we have to deconstruct.
Oh, yeah. Very different. There was one that I'm surprised a
little surprised. You didn't come up with this one. This is
your friend Tom Hartman. Are you ready for it?
No, I'm always ready for Tom Christopher Columbus
was the ISIS of his day.
Okay, for the day for that stupidest thing I've ever heard
anyone say let
me let me do a combo, then. Wow, Christopher Columbus was the
ISIS of his day. Wow. What is wrong with
these people? And he goes way into that way deep into that?
Oh, I'm
sure he does. As part of the left. There's not a left wing
progressive. We'll call it kind of a litany that that wants to
vilify Christopher Columbus, and indigenous peoples day. And all
the rest of it stems from this.
Do you mean the entire clip? I mean, I know that we've made a
shift on Christopher Columbus. And I don't know if I really
care. The mail didn't come. The banks were closed. But I still
have to
do Jesse but most doors were open and gave me a shot into San
Francisco and back with no traffic. There must be some. By
the way, I didn't realize because the traffic was so low.
And it was only federal people that were off working bankers.
That most of the traffic in the Bay Area is from these people,
bankers, workers.
Tech High Tech doing well is these bankers and federal
workers clogging up the freeways. Do
you know what the deal is? Why? Why this has so been changed.
And Columbus is now a horrible guy.
This is just a code for the fellow travelers. This began in
Berkeley Area in California probably as long far back as I
can remember probably the 70s maybe into the 60s it's it was a
slow slow growth movement, but it indicates you're part of the
team is thinking the right way. You know, like the Obama bots
you asked them to be they're all in on this.
Or do you want to read listened and deconstructed? We just leave
it alone. We can leave it alone. That's what I thought. I don't
want to have a repeat of the last show. Where you were right,
by the way. You are right. Okay. I'll save it. thinking oh that
was all carries fault it was and I still think you know I do
these carry clips and then I listen
I haven't tried it try it unless Kerry's got ours is very hard
yeah ever does because he's such a boring guy that I haven't had
a carry clip for I don't know months because it's just you get
it has nothing to clip just droning on and on I try
every single time. There's actually there's one thing I do
want to play because this is something I'm working on. And
there's a very long video I have to I'm I have queued up for you
to look at for Sunday show. So this is what I'll be working on.
There's a new term I had not heard it. But it's been around I
just didn't know what was going on with this. And this is I
think a no if this BBC or this is bad. This may be BBC about
war games going on in around the Chinese sea and pretty much all
around China that we are conducting. And here's a new
term in this.
We just saw that report from WordPress days with East allied
military exercise off the coast of Guam. Are we now seeing the
full might of America so called Asia pivot policy.
Good morning. I do believe we are a lot of things are taking
place. Currently. We saw the USS Carl Vinson also there with the
George Washington in terms of carrier strike group that was
recently through Singapore, we've had a number of
engagements in the region, the US Army is executing what's
called Pacific pathways. This is a newer concept. We had US Army
soldiers from Washington State their training in Indonesia,
they went up to Malaysia, they're going to do an exercise
in Japan. So I think we are seeing this, still a bit more of
it coming online. We're about halfway to the 2500 Marines are
going to be stationed in Darwin rotational presence through
Darwin. That's still ongoing. What we are seeing it and
presence is very important, you see that the presence
is very important. And the commitment of US President
Barack Obama, recently, the Obama administration shifted in
policy since the end of the Vietnam war to begin selling
Vietnam, limited amounts of lethal arms.
This is dramatic. It's amazing to think 1975, at the end of
that war was not that long ago. So we have seen a tremendous
movement in that direction. I think we still have a long way
to go. And obviously Vietnam has a multitude of concerns. But
this is a significant step forward.
Did you hear the term?
No
Pacific pathways, okay. And this is as as this guy said, a
relatively new term. And from defense.gov, I found a page
about about it. Pacific pathways increases readiness through
partnership. And the concept is an innovative and experimental
approach to increasing army readiness through the
partnership, the commander of through partnership, the
commander of the US Army Pacific said yesterday. This is an
innovation in large measure. It's a new way of doing
something we have been doing already. We have already been
participating in exercises around the region and I believe
what this means is our exercises with Japan with in the Malacca
Straits, Indonesia, Malaysia, and all of it intended clearly
to tell the Chinese we're here. Oh, yeah. And there was a big
conference about this. We're
now more convinced by the way than ever that this action
taking place in Hong Kong totally is us. Well, okay,
I do have one final clip. Well, then I have a final clip. Do you
want to do your final clip first
or switch uses the Hong Kong thing I want to play I have to
close one is the protester in China clip which I'm gonna skip
that and go to number two, but
let me I would like to do mine because yours may. Mine's very,
very short. It is eight seconds.
I'm gonna tell their minds about and you can make a decision.
Okay. Mine is about a man on the street in China asking around
whether they anyone knows about Hong Kong.
Know that this mine will be perfect. Okay, get it to do
first. Hold on, you have two or one.
I have two but the one you want is part two, it says to China
protest to you don't wanna do the other one. Only that one.
Yeah, the other one is too long. And it's just not. It's not what
they want. But the point I want to make so
this is from I think BBC and I was listening to NPR and I hear
the same term over and over again when they're talking about
the Umbrella Revolution, which by itself means that's US State
Department when we name it. Orange Revolution, Rose
Revolution, Umbrella Revolution. And this term.
Hello to hundreds of Hong Kong police officers have clashed
with pro democracy protesters, a pro democracy
protesters. This is such a loaded term to say pro it's not
they have democracy. They just don't like the way it's been set
up. But to say to blanketly say pro democracy protesters I think
is wrong.
It serves its purpose.
All right. Does this need setting up your clip? Oh,
this is the shiny This is they can't seem to get the or mistake
here. And I guess the Chinese skill is they've blocked this
information from the mainland because they don't need this
aggravation. They're to such an extreme that is almost
laughable. And what you're going to hear could happen here at any
moment and may already be going on when we have our protesters
like to occupy groups that lose all their credibility.
This fear has turned into paranoia. Last Saturday in
Beijing, some internet post called on people to come to
Tiananmen Square with open umbrellas. But after one hour,
we saw only one person carrying this symbol of the Hong Kong
protests, a tourist surprise to be refused entry to the square.
Other posts called for a rally at this McDonald's, but nobody
was there, except the police who filmed us and then blocked our
cameras. But it's hard to imagine the Hong Kong protests
writing to mainland China, Beijing filters, all information
coming from Hong Kong. Even at this university, which was a
center of the 1989 Tiananmen movement. Students seemed barely
aware of the Hong Kong demonstrations. I haven't really
paid much attention to this sorry.
I'm in a general occupying central means occupying the
center of Hong Kong in order to force the government to do
something. I think that's what it is. I think patriotism
should be the most important issue here. I don't know what to
say. I don't quite grasp what's going on.
Okay, break it down.
That's it. Dig they've got they've done such a great job.
So the the our State Department which we'll we'll assume has
something to do with this. Just give the Chinese the needle and
it is their banking center. A Hong Kong? Oh, yeah, we can't we
have to find some new mechanism to get into the information into
China because what we really want to do is kind of upset the
applecart there. But we're not even close. It's like a fail.
It's like a complete fail. Ah,
ya know, it's, it's the State Department. It is carry State
Department, and you can say what you want about her. But Hillary,
when it came to screwing countries over she was the bomb.
Yeah.
I mean, it didn't work out with the, you know, live Aviatrix,
she made a bigger mess. But if the goal is to rub allies, the
Chinese or just get that Chinese wall Hello, is always what's
called that and it's it's it's amusing to me that they can't in
China and they have all these bypasses even we've even worked
it out. So the Iranians, we had a clip where they have all kinds
of mechanisms where they can bypass all this censors. China
No, no, even the college students don't have a clue. And
they're the ones who would be the susceptible to being upset,
right? And this is gonna be fun, but we were at the Chinese are
out, matching us outwitting us.
Well, we will have that and many more issues to discuss on the
next episode of the Best podcast in the universe featuring future
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I guess they can always play tech grouch and that would well,
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I got some for the end sequence which is even better. All right.
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