throttle them. Let's throttle them less throttle them. Adam
curry, John C. Dvorak.
It's Thursday November 13 2014. Time for your gizmo nation media
assassination episode 669 earth this is no agenda enjoying the
cyclogenesis here in FEMA Region six in the capital of the drone
Star State Austin chaos in the morning everybody. I'm Adam
curry
and from Northern Silicon Valley was a strain late stress strain.
Nevermind, I'm John C. Dvorak. Kill.
Don't drink that little setup. Don't drink before the show,
man.
I drink water.
What did you want to say? What did you want
to say? There's this strange liquid falling from the sky
called Snow. I don't know what it is. It's rain. It's raining.
It's raining as we speak.
34 degrees Fahrenheit here in Austin.
Wow, nice. By the way, that high in Denver was minus nine.
This is the first of all this is global warming, obviously. No
doubt about it. And I was I was listening. Actually, I was
watching Michio Kaku,
I hate that guy. If you don't really hate
Him, He's entertaining because he's a goofy.
He's very goofy. And he said, fool of himself to ask that I
don't dislike
Well, of course. So he's always on the CBS Morning Show with
Oprah's girlfriend and, and Charlie Rose. Who was drunk
still.
Generally Yeah, Charlie, I think we should drink that guy's
making so much money on that show.
That's why he's drunk.
And he's just tired. Here's you gotta have a four in the morning
to do that show and yeah earlier
No, no, you have to be there by for for his hair and makeup and
I don't know he might not live in the city. If he lives in the
city. It's okay if he comes from outside and he's up at two
hours. Okay, you got to get up at three 232 30
Most people get up at 230 This is no life. I've done morning
radio shows in the morning radio show. You can just fall out of
bed you have to do hair and makeup and I mean I've smoked my
first joint before I was at the studio was still it's a very
challenging life because you haven't you really have to go to
bed at eight and I had to sleep in a separate bedroom
Yeah, you can't wake everybody up.
Alright, here's Kaku on talking about this arctic blast. CBS
News
contributor Michio Kaku is with us. He's at is a physics
professor at the City University of New York. Good morning.
Morning. Tell us exactly what this is.
Well superstorm no repacks more energy than Hurricane Sandy.
Oh, it was not a hurricane you aihole Sandy was a superstorm it
was never a class it never classified as a hurricane but
they said more punch
is headed our way and we are in the bullseye. This weekend it's
gonna plow into Alaska creating 50 foot waves by midweek all
hell breaks loose gonna collide with the Jetstream pushing
arctic air all the way down perhaps as low as Florida. Now
remember the polar vortex of last year?
Yes, you've come up with a new bull crap line.
Did he say ship polar vortex and laughed as you think that's
funny?
Yes, because he knows that this is bullcrap. And they've just
come up with a new name. Because you can't if he's a polar vortex
again last time it was a mistake by the way. I don't think all
hell has broken loose. It's cold but all hell has broken loose.
What kind of hell are we talking about? I think we're flying to
New York tomorrow. And I have no no one's freaking out. Oh, hell
has broke It's cold but not hell has not
been cold before pushing arctic air all the way down perhaps as
low as Florida. Now remember the polar vortex of last year? But
he laughed. He knew. I remember that bowl. This is different.
There's a name for this is called Bombo Genesis. That's a
geek talk for when pressures suddenly dropped when you have
hot air cold air colliding. Like what we're gonna see over Canada
and the American Midwest. Plunging temperatures perhaps
three degrees below normal.
When I looked this up this Bombo Genesis mumbo jumbo? Yeah, and
it is really just a different a new word for cyclogenesis which
is rapid or extreme.
Will I but they changed the word because they liked the words
funny. Yes, funnier.
It's funny. Well, really it's rapid or extreme cyclogenesis
which is characterized by barometric pressure drop of 24
millibars in a 24 hour period. So what but he's, he's the polar
vortex was that word was an explanation of what happened
with the with the jet stream and why the weather changed. Bombo
Genesis or extreme cyclogenesis is not an explanation of why
it's happening. It's just a name for the result. You catch my
drift?
Yeah, no, he's just mixing Is his analysis actually just uh,
just to sounds you know good people, I
can't actually give an explanation for it. I think
that's what it is. This is what it is. It's called bomba
Genesis, but he can't actually tell us why. And we know he
can't use the polar vortex because that was an anomaly all
part of climate change, global warming, manmade global warming
as plunging temperatures perhaps three degrees below normal.
Wow, best and worst case scenarios.
In the best case scenario simply means take out your rubber boots
and mufflers and just hunker down in a worst case scenario.
Shelter in Place, it could mean a deep freeze it means airlines
are canceling flights left and right.
You don't have to cancel a flight for cold weather. Deep
Freeze.
It means transportation being disrupted train schedules being
dressed up disrupted people's schedules being thrown on
kilter. So we're talking about a massive disruption which will
peak around November 13 to November 15.
Today John is pagan but it's pagan the rest
of November longer
we think this is gonna last alright, I'm looking at the top
stories today. I do not see transportation. The I do not see
airlines thrown in off kilter. I see I see the extreme storms of
Uranus
as a hey get this guy off the air Yeah, yeah,
it's just it's just this is what he does it make you Oh, through
the rest of the month and into December
well, it peaks mid week next week so expect several days of
pretty miserable weather miserable but then ripples we're
both will probably be with us for the the end of the month.
That means that our
winner is going to be horrific and we should just hide now.
Well, it means we're going to have another episode of the
polar vortex and you know, used to it because it because it's
glowing.
Now happened every year forever
changing. It means that on average, we're going to see more
violent swings. All right, Professor Kaku with the bumbo
Genesis.
Of course, it's it's all kinds of nutty stuff. This morning. I
must have gotten four clips off of CNN. And this is a short one.
And then I'll get off of this is bullcrap. So now, of course, we
have a Republican controlled Congress, both the House and the
Senate.
That's the reason for the weather. Well, the
today the house I think is debating the key XL Pipeline.
Now of course, you know, this is what you want to do when you
have pro pipe liners in majority in both houses. Well, they don't
until January true. But this is just the conversation they're
getting started, ya know,
as far as I know that. That woman that got that Mary
Landrieu whose guy has a runoff coming? Yeah, she's decided to
jump into the fray. And she's the one who's pushing it in, in
the Senate because right now is the only time
the only time they can block it. Okay. That's good. Okay, that
makes sense. Makes sense? Well, Carol, CNN, cnn.com/carol, CNN,
facebook.com/carol, CNN.
Woman I can never see again.
She had an ad. Right. She had Robert Zimmerman on, who of
course, is a Democratic strategist. And Ron Christie. I
think he was an advisor to George W. Bush. So the typical
left right. bullcrap. But what I found interesting is listen to
Carol, CNN, facebook.com/carol, CNN, when the 98 that are
actually global warming comes up. And the Christie guy says
that the Earth has been cooling for the past decade, which as
far as I know, from the evidence I've seen is true. It is, at
best a general stop in the in the rise in temperature, and
we're talking very infant decimal amounts. But everything
I've seen says it is so cooling. Is this the same? You're seeing
professional work?
Well, I mean, if you look at the actual here's what gets me one,
you'll get one group that has these numbers and the numbers
show at schooling and then the other group has different
numbers. Can somebody decide on which numbers we're supposed to
be looking at, but from what I can tell nothing's going on.
Okay.
Well, regardless, Carol's response is just as as a
journalist or a news reader or a news model, maybe we should call
her that
problem is ROMs. friends in Congress, the Republican members
don't believe in climate change. And for that matter, they don't
believe in science. The new energy the new environmental
Chairman James Inhofe says God handles the climate. It's up to
us to get involved with that, well we believe in
science, but we don't believe in global climate change. So you're
right because the planet has actually cooled the last decade
not gotten warmer. But here's the thing that I think we will
agree on. Oh, come on. Come on really? Early here. We now
know we have 98% of scientists and
she's gotten instead of 97 Now it's 98 90% of
scientists who are 2% Oh, I
don't know date right and by the 98% figure we've seen what was
your source rush limbaugh was your source Rush Limbaugh now I
know this they're kind of this the argument throwing at us Yes.
Is this your source Rush Limbaugh Rush Limbaugh that's
it. Well, here's what's interesting to me is that this
you know, I still would like to get to the bottom of the hold on
who's your source Rush Limbaugh
yeah. You're right. I I'm listening to O'Reilly. Oh, who's
your source O'Reilly man can I say this was your source
O'Reilly
All right. Well, if my sources O'Reilly had been the wrong side
of the argument, listen to this and tell me this is not a little
subtle propaganda. O'Reilly slips on this idiot who's like,
you know, presents these posts to come on to analyze the
Republican victories and he's from some read stays a blogger
go Exelon administration.
In China, President Obama has announced that the USA and the
Chinese will work together, work together to cut carbon emissions
by many to provoke global warming. The President calls the
agreement historic. Others say it's a huge con. Joining us now
from Macon, Georgia. Eric Erickson, who runs a
conservative blog red state.com. First of all, are you a non
believer in global warning? Warming? Mr. Erickson?
Oh, I think the world's been warming and cooling for several
billion years. So I would put myself in the natural phenomenon
camp. All right. So
you feel it's a cycle of nature, but carbon emissions have
nothing to do with it. If they have something to do with it and
miniscule, okay, now, you know, that runs counter to most
scientific opinion. And you know, he's an opinion, as I
always say, you can't prove it one way or the other. Nobody can
prove this. So it's foolish to get upset about it.
So here's what he does. He slips in this most scientists read did
the other guy who was obviously a dummy should have said, Well,
are you familiar with the petition of 30,000 actual
climate scientists that say this is bullcrap the petition that
was presented before Congress and ignored the position, the
petition that was discussed in that White House, the guy who
ignored her White House from northern islands were ignored
it, ignored it. That's what he should have said, because there
is no evidence. And then, of course, our own show, you show
that the 97% number was derived in a very bogus fashion from
Rush Limbaugh from Rush Limbaugh. And this is what's
going on this is the discourse, the discourse is there are
30,000 people that have signed
31 by 30, or 32,000. A lot well,
over 30,000, let's say 30,000 of these guys, and we find and then
the other side, which whose argument is Rush Limbaugh, and
you and it's just beyond me. And then O'Reilly is in on this. Of
course, we've always questioned his real motives. It is
31,487 American scientists, including 9029 with PhDs showing
how do we get to the habit right here. We urge the United States
government to reject the global warming agreement that was
written in Kyoto Japan in December 1997 Any other similar
protocols? The proposed limits on greenhouse gases would harm
the environment hindered the advance of science and
technology and damage the health and welfare of mankind. There is
no convincing scientific evidence that human release of
carbon dioxide methane or other greenhouse gases in cause or
will in the it's causing or will in the foreseeable future, cause
catastrophic heating of the Earth's atmosphere and
disruption of the Earth's climate Moreover, there is
substantial scientific evidence that increases in atmospheric
carbon dioxide produce many beneficial effects upon the
natural plant and animal environments of the earth that's
that's pretty pretty clear well written and is that you can't
Well of course, it was the oil companies that bought these guys
off
Ah, you got to say it right. Right, the makeup of this let me
see 3805 Scientists trained in specialties directly related to
the physical environments of the Earth, computer Mathematical
Sciences, 935 of them who signed this physics and aerospace
science 5812 chemistry 4822 biology in agriculture 2965
that's of interest and all the names are here. Petition
project.org Alright, so I'm sorry, I didn't mean to
interrupt you but I don't think I actually looked at
that information that's all good stuff on my point for me Rush
Limbaugh astonishing to me that they allow this well, it's
astonishing debate and and knee jerk reaction we have a number
of listeners that every so often stop listening because we bring
this up one too many times for their case, because they cannot
get out of this this way of thinking No, they can't, you
know, be open mindedness is just impossibly this is a good one.
This is one of the best things I've ever seen. I've never seen
anything quite as effective. Something else happened. The
next Al Gore.
Yeah, well, initially Yeah. The climate science Legal Defense
Fund, has hired a new executive director of the climate science
Legal Defense Fund is excited to announce the hiring of Lauren
Kurtz as its first executive director. And she is joining
from Decker dechert LLP top tier law firm where she was a
litigator. There, she served as project manager on a high
profile $3 billion dollar litigation initiative. She
represented commercial and individual clients on cases
involving Freedom of Information Act FOIA requests. She was hired
by the Board of Directors after a widely publicized summer
fundraising campaign to grow the climate suck. What is it the
climate science legal defense fund from an all volunteer
organization to one with a full time professional staff? And
there's got to be Koch brothers again.
Well, that's interesting. Well, this brings us to the China
Agreement, which Obama's Yeah.
Which, which was have a couple of clips. I just wanted to read
a quick email from one of our producers, who is in Australia,
and this is relevant because everyone's going to Brisbane
right after all this China stuff with the G 20. And it's, it's a
confusing and problematic for Tony Abbott, the prime minister,
who has just abolished all carbon tax, and he's very much
against the climate change position from the 97% of all
scientists. And of course, all anyone can tell this is the g
20. is not supposed to be about just about climate change, but
because of this so called agreement. The entire media in
in Australia is all Oh, it's historic, we're going to say be
saved. But well, we had the wrong guy running the ship.
Things are never without reason, you know,
there's always something going on. Alright. So Obama goes to
China, and he makes an agreement with ping, who, whose agreement
apparently is? Well, actually, we can pick that kind of
explains it. Okay, let's play the China climate deal doing
nothing clip. First significant
is it when you put together today's deal on climate change
yesterday's deal on trade, given the state of relations between
the US and China?
Well, certainly I think yesterday's deal on tariffs on
information products is very, very important. This is going to
affect American business in a very direct way. And if it
indeed is implemented in the WTO, information technology
agreement next year, this is a major win. I'm not so sure about
climate change deal, though, because China's commitment was
pretty vague in the White House factsheet. And also, the chawan
news agency in their release, didn't talk about a climate cap
in 2030. So I got to make sure we got to make sure that there
really is a deal here. And indeed, doing nothing for 16
years, as Mitch McConnell says, and I very rarely quote, Mitch
McConnell, but you know, doing nothing for 16 years is
politically unsustainable, not only in the United States, but
in other countries as well.
Did he did the report say informational material?
There was two, you talk about the first agreement. Yeah. That
was that was the day before they agreed on some sort of it. Okay,
information. Oh, okay. So we did get to something about
terrorists computers. Like that was different. And that was he
thought was good. The second thing, which is the agreement
with the climate change, that Obama thinks is so great. Is the
China the agreement is from the Chinese perspective, we're not
doing anything for 16 years. Yeah. And then that's when they
claim they're going to naturally start to drop Yeah, because
they'll be done. Meanwhile, of course, then we can't have any
of this sort of debate. So let's bring in the hagiography for
Glenn iPhone, with some guy from I love Princeton and now and
With the backdrop, we always have to remember the backdrop.
For the last I would say close to 20 years, every year has been
the last chance before we won't be it's going to be
irreversible. I gotta I gotta be irreversible. We've been hearing
this every year.
Remember the you remember the was it three? Was it 350 Or
three sixty.org?
Right two parts per million, right? So,
Jean as a surgeon here in Austin, he has one of those
online weather thingies and then you can go on you can see what
the conditions are inside his house and outside his house
inside his house. He's got like 1000 parts per million of co2. I
call him sometimes Are you dead?
No, but he's winning the climate is
his house. That's the snakes that's running. What are we
playing?
So we're playing at China, Gwen and the apologists are eat
climate change. Whoo. Okay,
good.
Michael Oppenheimer is one of the many authors of the UN
reports on climate change, and a professor of Geosciences and
International Affairs at the Woodrow Wilson School at
Princeton University. Welcome back to the News Hour. Thanks
for having me how big a deal is this deal? This is huge. As
far as I'm concerned. There are basically three reasons. One,
the science, the science tells us, it has a chance of avoiding
the climate Danger Zone, we've got to get the world's emissions
turned around, that is going down instead of going up
sometime in the 2020 to 2030 timespan the Chinese benchmark
here of 2030 is consistent with that objective. Allow me to read
something just interject this danger zone climate science
Defense Fund, just hired this top lawyer. All right, you've
been looking at this. Clips. You know what this is? No, I'm
listening to your clip I go on to at least I'm not clipping my
toenails.
I don't never clip my toenails. I should admit this way. Let me
get this down climate science defense fund.org.
This organization is to was started to quote, climate
researchers are in need of immediate legal assistance to
prevent their private correspondence from being
exposed. This Yeah, yeah,
yes, about climate gate. Yes, they're worried sick, that
there's another smoking gun out there showing that this is a
scam for the individual scientists, top lawyer on it. So
if anything happens, you will be in court.
The scientific method is designed, designed around the
belief that skepticism is good results should be subjected to
the utmost scrutiny through the peer review process, followed by
close examination and replication by others in the
scientific community. Those who dies whose ideas do not live up
to the standards of rigorous science have instead chosen to
litigate. For the individual scientists, these legal actions
are a painful burden, especially when it turns out you lied.
Academic salaries were not designed to support ongoing
legal expenses. Okay, I get it. Yes, protect through a strict
legal framework protect
that is the smokescreen for what's going on, which has got a
big, big ass lawyer to come in and do it. Okay. Yeah. And I'm
sure that that lawyer will be able to do what's needed. And
then you like they mentioned, went from a volunteer
organization to a bunch of pros. Yeah, that's a big difference.
All right. I'm sorry, I didn't. It's important. All right. So
I think I'm not complaining. Okay. Yeah. So Glen comes out
with this guy who thinks everything's great. And they sit
and he goes on and on. He says, You should have well, the
Chinese won't be doing anything until 2030. But we're still
we're still within the climate change zone. Change zone, we're
in the zone. So meanwhile, the other guys are going away. This
is crazy. You know, he can't let the Chinese not do anything for
16 years. And that's some sort of an agreement. And I'm not
even going to do any anyone can agree to not do anything. All
right. That is a scam.
Yeah, well, well, well, deconstructed.
Much as you can do. There was some interesting other little
things that came out of this Chinese spy started analyzing
this deals with China. The one that was interesting is this
one, I never knew this. This is this the same guy. This is the
clip China internal strife. I don't know if we're familiar
with this.
It's going to be very important to see how China implements the
agreements that it reached. And I actually think that the
political system now is in distress. Everyone says that si
Jinping has quickly consolidated control in Beijing. But there
are too many symptoms of problems, including the failure
to dispose of the issue of Jo Yong Kong, the former securities
are and also this continuing series of loyalty oaths on the
part of flag officers, which seems to be a symptom of
disagreements in the People's Liberation Army. So it's seeking
Ping i don't think has the consensus to be able to deal
with the international community on A acceptable basis. And we
saw this in that really deplorable handshake with
Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo RB where si Jinping just
breached one diplomatic protocol after another. I think that that
shows that there's real problems in the Chinese political system
that they can't deal with a neighbor in a acceptable
fashion. Hmm.
Something's up. Oh Biden.
I believe that. Can we stay in the in the Asian region for a
moment?
Well imagine is playing my last clip, which is the counterpoint
to this guy, which is some woman who used to be I guess, on the
George W. HW bush of staff as a internationalist assumption.
She's now a professor at UC San Diego, which is not the highest,
it's the NAB, it's
the military farm team. The JV JV is China ladies discussion is
this interesting, she was really long winded by cut her down
found something kind of interesting.
And that raises another interesting point. But Susan
shirk, I do want to get your sense of of these internal
pressures and how they're playing out on she and how you
think this relationship moves forward between the US and
China? Well, I do think that Xi Jinping has been very much
focused on domestic threats to his power, and maintaining the
communist party in power, despite the dramatic changes in
society and economy over the last 30 years. So you see this
contrast between what looks like very confident Xi Jinping and
confident China on the world stage with a very nervous Xi
Jinping in China, about the potential for domestic unrest.
But I think she did well for himself by handling this meeting
so well, looking like, you know, enhancing China's status as a
responsible big power. And that's going to resonate
domestically as well. Just quickly,
posturing thus. Yes, posh, she
did well, for himself. It's just a great sentence.
Yeah, she's clean tonight from the Clinton administration.
Rob Clinton. Okay, back to you, right. Yeah, I remember.
Okay, staying in Asia. first clip, this is a we on the
previous program, which we will discuss in probably in our
Christmas episode. We did some live deconstruction, as it hit
me during a while we were talking about the release of Bay
and Miller from North Korea. It hit me that this guy who I had
seen, just out of the corner of my eye Sugarman, David Sugarman.
And we actually researched it on the air on the show, it turns
out, he's a sports agent. And this kind of explains a lot of
why he might have been involved in trying to get Kenneth Bay
back now, Kenneth Bay. He is, this is I'm learning a lot about
this, this particular little thing that happened. He is a
trader owns a travel company, and although the State
Department and the officials here, just say the straight
department. Yeah, but that will be wrong. I think I said the
State Department would be wrong. We'll just call it the straight
department from now on. He had he had organized the Dennis
Rodman trip.
Oh, okay. Stayed on this idea. Yeah. Well,
I stayed on like a hot potato, I stayed on it for a reason got a
big surprise, got a really big one for information, man, new
shit has come to life, got some good stuff for you. And Sugarman
was along for the ride because he represents Kenny Anderson,
who went to North Korea with Dennis Rodman. So, so and this
guy, Bey organized the trip, but the straight department portrays
him as a missionary who tried to overthrow the country by placing
Bibles or something like that, right. That was one
of the things I believe it was. The other guy was one of the
guys was out missionary, the other guy
left the button. Well, there's some new, some new information
on the other guy, the Miller kid, as we'll call him. So
here's a quick report on Sugarman, who says something
very interesting that he feels that he is responsible for the
return or at least partially, he doesn't claim full
responsibility believes he's partially responsible for the
return of Bay, as he had, but he really did the rounds. He went
to the State Department, he went to Hillary, even Charlie wrangle
I'm not quite sure what wrangle has to do with it. But no, no,
no. And also, well listen to the report for exactly two
years now. Tour Guide and missionary Kenneth bay of
Washington State has been in prisoned in the North Korean
labor camp system suspected of trying to overthrow its
government. And for nine months New Jersey sports agent and
political activist David Sugarman has been pushing for
his release after reaching out to Bay's family and meeting with
them in New York. Today. They told him ecstatic. I mean, they
can't wait for him to come home Sugarman led a social media
campaign on Twitter and Facebook today. He could celebrate by
posting. We did it. We did it. We brought Kenneth Bay back I am
in tears crying right now we did it. I can't believe it. And the
family statement this ordeal has been excruciating for the
family. But we are filled with joy right now. Our Thanksgiving
celebration this year will be one we will never forget.
Sugarman met with everyone from former Secretary of State
Hillary Clinton to Jesse Jackson, and Congressman Charlie
wrangle, and he took this selfie with the North Korean ambassador
to the UN, who called him this morning. He said to say thank
you. And did you? I sure did. Yes. No one can say for sure why
bae and the other Americans have been released, though there is
some speculation North Korea is worried about against it by the
International Criminal Court says former US ambassador to
South Korea, Stephen Bosworth. There are ways in which they can
communicate with us largely through their mission to the UN
in New York, which is referred to as the New York channel. As
for Sugarman, he says he may have been just one part of an
effort by many to bring Bae back. Oh, let's
let's stop, okay, the New York channel
bullshit, and you'll find out why. But so this guy is saying
there's the New York channel,
but wouldn't a New York channel be done. And
interestingly enough, I received an email from Uncle Don, who
says Looking forward to seeing you guys on Monday. I've been
waiting. I'm going to New York tomorrow. And we'll go on up to
our mock to see him on Monday, him and Meg. He says I was
interviewed, as you know, Don can't get he can't even walk on
a set of any mainstream media news program because he's not on
board with the message. And the message is evil, frightening,
scary. Crazy. So he did this interview, it was some local
public radio station. And so Don said, I believe that's what he
said, email, I believe you may be able to use some clips on
your show.
While he's promoting himself for UK as a clip, yeah. So that's
actually a step in the right direction.
Let me get let me read it for bit for Batum Hold on a second.
And read his email is really it was I was kind of blown away.
Let's see what he says here. Here it is.
Adam, this interview ran 20 minutes, it was excellent. I've
already had a call from someone at UCLA who wants me to speak at
a forum. You may find some use for this on your podcast in form
of clips. Looking forward to seeing you
listen much. Listen to the podcast once in a while you
wouldn't know about the clips.
Looking forward to seeing you here at three ponds. Code code.
So I listened this interview and I posted the full interview in
the show notes. And I pulled a couple clips from it. And I
started to understand a little better what had happened. And we
have to go back to October 28 when the United Nations released
their human rights report. This is the I believe, as dawn will
tell us correctly. This is the the genesis of what happened as
the United Nations released that 372 page report detailing
brainwashing torture, starvation, imprisonment for
crimes such as questioning the system or trying to escape it or
secret Christianity in North Korea. And they were and this
report says we should call Kim Jong on to account and we should
hold them before the criminal court. And it is Don's belief as
in some follow up emails that this request for release came
directly from Kim Jong on. Let's just start with a little bit of
background and these are all reasonably sure I tried to make
them as short as possible about the gulags and this Miller kid.
Apparently the Mueller kid was a journalist. I'm pretty sure he
was a spy. And he was there to document the gulags. Right.
Yeah, good idea. Yeah, so so he had to be
when we talked about this last show, and we determined he was a
spy.
Here's, here's dawn.
Did he go to Berkeley by any chance?
I don't know.
I think that the the entire issue of the gulags and the
prison camps is a matter of high sensitivity to the North
Koreans. I say that because I On the 20th of October, I
introduced Ambassador Johnny's home of North Korea to the
Council on Foreign Relations where he spoke on the record
about human rights in North Korea. He took a lot of flack
from a human rights activists there because he had been told
what to say by Pyongyang. And he could not really answer their
questions to their satisfaction, but it was very clear that a
matter of great sensitivity to them was the possibility that
the UN might take action to try to indict Kim Jong on for crimes
against humanity due to the conditions in the in the gulags.
So I don't know anything about the what the young man in North
Korea was doing. But if they thought he was going to try and
get into a camp, that would be a matter of great sensitivity to
them.
So there's done even before the report came out with the report
that the ambassador was already already trying to run intercept
interference before this report was was was going on. Okay.
Here's the New York connection, that which now a reminder of
that. Don was the ambassador to South Korea, but he was also
there during the Korean War, Vietnam War. You've been around?
Yeah, he's over 180.
I think the 8485 is pretty cool. Yeah, here is the New York
connection.
I've made six trips to North Korea. And in February, four of
us all, representing PCI went to North Korea and heard from them
what their economic development plans are, and have heard from
them, they needed help in developing these plans. So we've
been trying to be helpful on that. And after the meeting, on
the 20th of October was the ambassador dying, I took him to
dinner, and said, You made it clear that the prisoners have
nothing to do with the human rights issue in the north. I was
glad to hear that. And I said, this is absolutely the time to
release those people. And so, yesterday when I heard they had
been released, I sent him a note congratulating him and he
responded an hour later said, thank you very much. We talked
about that. And I tried to do what you suggested. So that's
the kind of communication we have. It's offline. I have no
feedback whatsoever from the Obama administration. I had none
from the Bush administration. I've had no feedback from
anybody in the White House since I started going to North Korea,
but I think it's been worth doing and PCI now I think is a
fairly well trusted entity by them. And I think they talk
fairly freely to us.
Pretty often Brooks he's gone rogue.
Yeah, he is. And the PCI that's, that's, that is, is? What is it?
The project? That's the that's the think tank he's in. Okay, so
it's a NGO? No,
it's not an NGO. It's a thing. It's a think tank, but a
business? It's a business front for sure. Sure. What's not it's
a it's a front. I'm saying that from a different project concern
International, they change the name of like Pacific something
or it doesn't matter. If Mr. Frond is what
he is not doing this completely outside of the system. I don't
make sense. Well, hold on. I'm sure Obama's not you know, but
uh, you know, they get their own discrete department.
Okay. Let me skip ahead. One. He's going to talk about his
trying to, I think the talks about the well, let me try this
one first. So the question, of course, is why does a former CIA
guy while he Why is he interested in going to North
Korea?
So Donald Greg, I'm sure there are people in our audience who
were wondering why a former CIA officer would feel compelled to,
to, to feel that there's a need to communicate with North Korea
and to get beyond the demonization which seems to be
very popular in all
minorities See, why don't want to do the interview with this
guy. British accent sounds official. Yeah, no one no. Two.
It's funny. No one will ever hear the show except go through
no business. People are gonna hear it through us exactly.
Political and journalistic circles.
What a wonderful question. That's,
that's a new that's a variant by the way, instead of great
question. That's a wonderful question. You should use that.
I love the fact you asked me that. And the answer is very
simple. I'd rather talk to them and fight them. I was involved
for four years in the in the war in Vietnam, which we never
should have fought. And I've observed. You know what happens
when we do demonize foreign leaders that cost us and we
certainly have demonized Kim Jong Un calling him into
question. From the moment he appeared. The North Koreans
think very hot I love him. When I last went there in February
this year they, a Vice Foreign Minister of Foreign Affairs said
the sky's the limit under Kim Jong Un and they think very
highly of him. And I think this decision to release the
prisoners comes directly from Kim Jong Un, I think it's the
kind of decision he's going to start making. He's going to be
around for a long time. I think we need to help him understand
us better. And I think we need to understand them better than
we do. For more than a decade. I've called North Korea the
longest running failure in the history of American
intelligence. And that's how
you stay off CNN dawn. This is not, this is not how you get on
the news.
And I feel that that applies to intelligence, organizationally,
and it also applies to us intellectually.
Now he's going to talk about the previous times he has gone to
the White House, to no bearing a personal message from the leader
of North Korea for the President. And this was George
W. Bush, who and Don was a Republican, he converted to
Democrat and voted for Obama. He's not very happy with his
decision. And I don't think boards these has indicated that
to me anything but John McCain, and yeah. And so when you are
Don Gregg, and you have a message from the leader of the
of North Korea, a handwritten note to deliver to the
President, what do you think happens? With bush? Yeah, w. And
by the way, he that he was the National Security Adviser for
W's dad for a Rite Aid. Yeah,
yeah. Back in the day, right. What would he do, he'd probably
table it, just stick it in a folder and say, I'll get back to
you. It's worse,
I've been particularly disappointed that Obama seems to
have inherited some of the worst tendencies of the Bush
administration. In that reason. I had carried to the White House
in 2002, a written offer from North Korea, from Kim Jong Il to
restart talks. I was in and out of the White House in 20 minutes
and Condoleezza Rice, his deputy said, Oh, no, we won't talk to
them. That would be rewarding bad behavior.
He was kicked out by candies, Assistant Assistant.
Whoa. And then you help you get into the making the country he's
been, he's been marginalized. He's totally here.
And we have now something called strategic patience, which is
actually the same thing, we're sort of hoping that North Korea
will implode and they're not going to implode. And the longer
we don't talk to them, the stronger their nuclear deterrent
becomes, the North Koreans have made it very clear to me that
they want to talk to us. But that until we sit down and
really talk to them without a lot of preconditions, they're
going to continue to strengthen their nuclear deterrent. And so
I think the longer we wait to talk, the deeper the pit, we're
into what we'll have to eventually climb out of
this. I think this is one of the most important clips that we
have. And this is
definitely an important clip. And it tells me something else
during the Bush administration and continuing because he does
make dimension that this that whatever the policy is, I don't
think he's aware of it. And I don't think we are either there
is something going on, there is some plot afoot. There is some
scheme it either has to do with the South Koreans, it has to do
with oil, it has to do with the Russians, it has to do with
something we don't aren't aware of. It's almost like, you know,
hidden alien spaceships. A few people know what it is, and
nobody else does. And that's why he got you know, we don't care
what these guys say we have something in mind that we're not
talking about get out.
Well, the two things. Yeah, of course, the Chinese don't want
it to fall apart because they don't want you know, a million
North Koreans walking into China. I did see a note today
that Lockheed and Raytheon are going to sell $1.4 billion worth
of missiles to South Korea. So it's always good to make the
neighbor country afraid of
that you sell bought a bowl Chris, y'all, you know, the last
about two years and you gotta buy another billion couple
billion worth
now when we see North Korea portrayed on on our mainstream
news. It's always a nuclear power, who have a crazy kid on
the button.
Walking around goose stepping, yeah,
he has done.
I think North Korea is not a nuclear threat to anyone. I
think they they know that if they used a nuclear weapon, they
would be obliterated. But as you say, if they get some others
will be tempted to and there are right wingers in South Korea who
are already talking about developing nuclear weapons,
something that I had a hand in stopping when I was chief of
station there in the mid 70s. So
this is I think that's part of the plan is sell some junk to
South Korea. Just making megive me keep them up. We don't want
any peace.
You know, that is the simplest explanation, which is usually
the best explanation. There's a lot of business to be done hecky
selling crap to South Korea. And if they if everything was hunky
dory between the two countries and they they got away from the
armistice, you know, they signed it we actually finished the war
and they would there's all that business something else
interesting that I'm reading. Maybe that's all there is to it.
It's of no Well, there's
a timeline there's a timeline check this out. The US is
scheduled to hand over command of South Korea's wartime
defenses in December 2015. So missile defense capabilities are
vital. In June Bloomberg reported pa three PAC three and
Lockheed is longer range Terminal High Altitude Area
Defense system known as tad were among the missile systems that
South Korea's military was eyeing it's a sales job. It's a
fucking sales job.
We get out you know, we take over turning it over to you
know, you have to buy the gear. Yeah. Because until then we're
buying our own gear, right. Yeah,
that's what it seems like.
Yeah, so we turn it over now. We're gonna we're doing you a
favor by the gear that we used to bring in for free but makes
Yeah, but make sure you're really afraid of those guys up
north and the crazy kid goose stepping around.
I took complete and total scam, two more clips. And that
probably by the way is all well then we
don't know any better. Because this is the guy who I trust
more. And the fact that has been marginalized in the media is
endless. His book coming out. He's not getting on CNN to
promote his book like everybody else,
because he doesn't have they won't book him Bacho pot shards
he's probably on about well, there's that. There's a he's
probably a blacklist.
Yeah. And by the way, us playing clips on our show was not
helping his career.
I don't think it's hurting it because nobody is CNN listens to
the no agenda show.
Let's play two more.
There's probably a few lesser producers who do and then they
they sneak some of this stuff in. But there they won't admit
it. It's like almost no, it's like driving around listening.
Let's bring back Rush Limbaugh. If you put Rush Limbaugh on your
radio, and it turned up, you're not going to go through a drive
thru at McDonald's with that playing? Oh, geez, no one's
gonna do it. No.
So what Don is not I like this, almost done this, this next
clip, where he does say that to totalitarian regime? And he
says,
Singapore, by the way, yes, we love Singapore. And he's
explaining
how you deal with them and how you make things change.
And when people ask me why I keep fooling around with, with
the North Koreans, I've
got nothing better to do beats collecting stamps,
I say not only I'd rather talk but fight. I said my experience
is that totalitarian regimes and North Korea is a totalitarian
regime. They change only when they see that it is in their
interest to change that happened after Nixon reached out to
China. And it also happened after George Herbert Walker
Bush, and Gorbachev worked together to bring down the
Berlin Wall. And changes took place. And I think changes need
to start to take place in North Korea internally generated. And
so I think these talks to the North Koreans about their human
rights problem are very valuable if it translates into actions
which they can take on their own volition within their society to
make it less represent less repressive.
He said reprehensible that's what I
thought he was gonna say. Interesting. Well, I'm gonna ask
him about this PCI saying I want to find out what they're doing.
Yeah, I think it's a it's a business front and he wants to
help businesses get into North Korea.
Well, I here's what I you got your PIN, I asked a question.
I Oh, hold on. This is This calls for an outline.
Outline. I have like one question, maybe two questions
even pretty soon. So I have to get my shoot, shoot, shoot, you
know, the one I really want to know is how serious is North
Korea about creating a tourist destination? So Well,
that was on my list too. Okay, creating a tourist destination,
which seems to be the businesses that are getting in Okay, that's
question number one. You are Yep, you're on the list
to buy was the ye doesn't really go into much of an explanation
about this character. Who were the two guys that were were
taken that were subsequently released. Why was I can
understand why they grabbed the spy, because that was just too
obvious. Yeah, but why the other guy he was responsible for the
basketball thing. Good. Why, I mean, it doesn't make sense
because that guy would be seen as a good guy who set up the
basketball game with the with the Koreans versus the NBA
players, right? The rest of it right, right. Why was he taken
was he may be just taken? I mean, I'm almost imagining since
a totalitarian state now this is just a comedic thing, but I'm
imagining they get the guests as you were very good bringing
those basketball guys over. You now work for us. Could be I mean
that I mean, that's a movie script. Yeah. It's a James Bond
story. But what I don't want to work for you. I have a wife and
family I'm back. No, no, no, you work for us. Now you bring more
basketball. You stay here in the you very luxurious hotel. You
stay you know,
I think I think you're right. And probably it was done out of
the goodness of someone's heart like, hey, our fearless leader
likes his basketball crap. Let's get me on this. Get this guy on
doing more of that.
I mean, yeah, why else? Why else was the guy grabbed? They knew
us unknown person. friendly to the government. Right? That was
actually a subtle fear of mine. If I could get into with Kim
Jong Il.
Yeah. For the
for his wife, Oh, you're very good with wine you stay.
Recommend wine, not daily basis, you
label you label everything now. Give rating,
put down year with expiration.
Now as much as I liked Don, the straight department and of
course, he was often listed as a civilian in the State
Department. They're all laying on Putin being crazy.
revisionist Russia. And the last question was about Russia,
particularly as President Obama was going to get his arm rubbed
up by Putin there. And in China, funny captions by the way, if
you look at my my Twitter feed, did you see that picture of
Putin rubbing Obama's arm? No, no, it's very cute. It's kind of
sexual. Anyway, strange. I'm sorry, they asked you. Julian,
don't worry about. So the question I think was, hey, what
about China and Russia and everyone being played or Russia
and China are now teaming up together? And what's the what's
the word
as the conference that I attended In? In? In the UK a
couple of weeks ago, there were some very intelligent senior
Russians with whom I talked, and I said, Look, I fought you guys
and CIA all through the Cold War, but I have huge amount of
respect for Russia.
Imagine he actually did,
hey, I'm sure he did. I
fought you. And if this century is going to be any better than
our last, we have to find find ways to work together on certain
issues. And they said, Well, we would agree with that. But
you've got to, you've got a very difficult situation with Putin
who is totally in control, and has reawakened in the minds of
the Russians and the hearts, their hope of sort of
international clout and grandeur. And so we have a real
problem coming there and what role she is going to play will
become clearer to us all, I think, after Obama sees him on
this trip to Asia.
I actually like how he characterized that I, I can
believe that Putin has awakened something in the Russian people
not necessarily revisionist Russia have a days gone by, but
I can see where there's a patriotism.
What brings me to an odd clip,
okay, that's all I got on Don. Oh,
I got a couple of Putin clips here about you know, they had
about Ukraine, of course, see if I can find it. And I
unfortunately made too many clips. I had Russia, blaming
golf, Ukraine a quarter off Woodruff. I think it's this way.
This is the LG zeroes report on the Ukrainian situation, where
they bring on a guy who this is a little different take on
things this is that the Russians are actually encroaching, and
they're lying about it. Only for the Russian audience. They don't
give a crap. But we think the
most guys position since the fighting began in eastern
Ukraine is to insist that it has no military role in the
conflict. So the defense ministry has dismissed general
breed loves comments, calling them alarmist and anti Russian.
It's a message probably meant more for domestic ears than
foreign ones. Most Russians have no desire to see sons and
brothers die fighting in Ukraine. So pretending that
there are no Russian soldiers as long as the level of hostilities
allows such a pretense. Well, that's about what Russia is
going to be doing that we're
going to deny. With fighting intensifying in recent days, the
ceasefire agreed in Minsk appears to be dead. Both the
rebels and the Ukrainian army are preparing for increased
hostilities. We're seeing more power coming into the hands of
terror groups and Russia, we see all their movements, their
positions. And of course, we're waiting for them to act. How can
we react to their acts? I see it as my aim to be ready to fight.
And this dovetails into a clip I have. But I have a question,
which is the one I asked consistently. Why would Russia
do that? For what reason for to what and for what good for? What
would they do? Why come in?
Why would they send in this is this and it's not just for the
Russian audience. CNN is all over this. Russia, Russia,
Russia, Russia, Russia, it's all you hear all day long, Russia,
Russia, Russia. Why does anyone say why? What is the point of
this stupid ass country, which not really fully gay, they're
only in if they're in if they're in we I
think it is possible that they're in only to be a
defensive major because the Ukrainian army is going to come
in again, and start realizing the place which is and if we
consider the fact and wish they been doing defensive outliers,
just those two areas. And because we're behind the entire
Ukraine revolution, which the porch, the porch we did, we
screwed the pooch. We are internalizing what the Russians
may be there as they've set up some barriers that keep that
from happening. They don't have any interest in seeing this
happening right on their border.
So in your clip, they mentioned what Breedlove had said
Breedlove is the new the Allied commander and believes
is CO and Professor Cohen who will use all commonly on the
show who believes is just full of crap.
Well wait until you hear this report that this is broth this I
got this yesterday and then I'll follow it up with a clip from
this morning. Because the word has gone out. Okay, ranch, ramp
it up, ramp it up. Fuck Russia, ramp it up, ramp it up. It's
really, really disgusting. This.
Russian tanks and Russian troops are rolling across the border.
Russia denies it. But now there's an ominous warning from
Ukraine's defense minister, talking about the Russian
military moves and I'm quoting now expect unexpected actions on
their part. I think the main task is to prepare for fighting
that. Okay.
So let's just summarize. Abramoff says Russian tanks,
Russian troops. Russia denies it. They don't have proof but
Russian true and then they quote the Ukrainian defense minister
newly appointed
by the way he's got sorry, it's got nice outfits got three stars
a bunch of crazy looking things all over.
Oh, the Ukrainian guy. Yeah. Okay. Well, then you're talking
about Breedlove, right?
No, no, our defense guy the Ukrainian guys got Yeah, he's
got scrambled eggs all over
them. Nice. Nice. Nice. Nice. Pretty nice. Now here comes
greetings
from the Ukrainian defense minister. Our CHIEF NATIONAL
SECURITY CORRESPONDENT Jim Sciutto. is working just shortly
for us. This is pretty alarming. I've spoken with Ukrainian
officials in Kyiv.
Don't mention no names, never unnamed. Just I spoke with some
officials spoke to some dudes got some guides or whether
you're talking today. There's tremendous
alarm. And I think you can say outrage at these Russian moves.
Because you remember yesterday, there was another one of these
humanitarian convoys that went across without inspection. And
both Ukrainian and Western officials say you know, these
need to be inspected before you go. And now today you have the
Russians brazenly openly sending in arms and we're talking about
artillery tanks, and NATO believes Russian forces. I spoke
to an official and Ukrainian foreign ministry who says that
it's the belief of the foreign ministry that Russia is
preparing for a major offensive by the pro Russian separatists
in eastern Ukraine, I want you to listen to the NATO Supreme
Allied Commander General Philip Breedlove,
we see forces that are capable of being nuclear that are being
moved to Crimea.
Okay. Now, we see forces that are capable of being nuclear,
anything is capable. This is
the point in a jeep and an Abaqus. So he's also he's also
saying Crimea, which is where the Russians traditionally have
had their port and they've had their their base there. And of
course, there was the illegal completely outrageous
encroachment of all borders, who had the Crimea and said, Yeah,
we want to be part of Russia. Okay, I'm not gonna debate that
but for this guy, breed love. The head honcho the copy to to
to copy the dude of the NATO forces to propagate such
propaganda of capable Yeah, it's like being pre cancer, pre
cancerous. Of course, I'm also pre nuclear. This is in the
report, really. It's just crazy listening to
Allied Commander General Philip Breedlove.
We see forces that are capable of being nuclear that are being
moved to Crimea, whether they are or not, we do not know. But
they guys gotta go kind of just got their movement there that
could support that mission.
They got equipment there that could support that mission if
required.
All right mission what are they gonna do
the nuclear mission to try everybody blow up? Yes but treat
Friday Friday basically
do
we annexed it's now part of Russia but if they're moving
nuclear military equipment
jumped to the actual doing it remote possibility because it's
capable now oh this this actually I'm glad I don't have
CNN anymore
Goodman
military, you know CNN so if you want some someone's gotta watch
it now watch the blaze
for military equipment capable of using nuclear material that
would be an ominous mood of a whole bunch of levels you can
imagine this is based where I'd say
some what Yeah, so called on
Russia moving in both MiG fighter aircraft as well as to
pull off bombers.
Yeah, airplanes are nuclear capable. Yes.
into Crimea, which as you say that.
That's so that's what that's what they're that's what they're
they mean by nuclear capable machinery? Anything?
Yeah. Well, it could be a tank. Do they have these shells that
you know, that can be a mini nuke STAY WITH US
illegally. It is not known that they have nuclear weapons on
board haven't been observed by us satellites. But we know that
they're their nuclear capable. And this has always been the Kim
Kardashian is
ASOs nuclear capable.
It's true as a matter of fact,
us in terms of monitoring these Russian moves. They don't know
what Russia intends to do. And they know what they're capable
of doing. But they don't know if they have the intent to actually
deployed. So what
you hear is an instigated by the United Nations war machine. This
was capable is capable could have could be not sure who
capable capable could be noop noop, noop, noop, noop, noop
noop noop? No, this is not journalism. This is not
journalism,
nuclear weapons there. Again, speaking with Ukrainian foreign
ministry officials, this is what they believe is happening. The
conventional force is going across the border into eastern
Ukraine to prepare for a new offensive by pro Russian
separatists. These forces in Crimea meant to be something of
a flanking move to tell the Ukrainians we got you backed on
two sides from the east and from the south. And you know, when
you think in those terms, we'll listen to Wolfram broth wrap it
up. No other words you can call this but a war, right?
War, it's a war. It's a war installation, etc.
But but there's really this. There's a war
guys business. He's NATO. He's got nothing to do with these two
countries.
These wars going on in eastern Ukraine. Right, I did hear the
NATO Supreme Allied Commander raised that possibility that
they might even be bringing in equipment that could use nuclear
weapons. That's an ominous question, and would violate half
a dozen treaties.
No. They're not NATO's point that out,
Ukraine gave up its nuclear arsenal in order to get its
independence, if you will, and if you will, moved all those
nuclear weapons out. The Russians promised at the time,
they would never undermine Ukrainian sovereignty. How's
that working out?
How's that working out? How's that working out? Dr. Fauci.
Thanks so much, as always, for joining
us meddling. Good to be here both. Good to be here. Dr. Fauci
was on another show recently, we'll get to that. Okay, well,
before we get to that, I'd sure like to take a break here.
Okay, I just wanted I wanted to wind it up with my last
meal, then wind it up. That's what I was going to do. Well,
you know, you were gonna talk to Doc by Dr. Fauci. That was just
the broth thing.
Okay. I wanted to play the this morning's propaganda on CNN. So
what possibly could be funnier and not true than nuclear
capable machinery being moved into Crimea? How about Russian
bombers? Next up to flying over the Gulf of Mexico. I think I've
got a better version of the clip. Alright. Tell me which one
it is? Well, it's
up there. It says.
Oh, airplane and golf. Here we go. That's Roulot. Now Russia
has said it plans to send long range bombers on flight patrols
over North American waters including the Gulf of Mexico.
The aim it says to secure the country's military presence over
the West Atlantic eastern Pacific and the Caribbean and
Gulf of Mexico it comes just days after NATO singled out some
Russian incursions into European airspace with some aircraft
flying what it called provocative routes the US though
playing down Moscow's plan missions as routine training in
international airspace so that's that's that clip was actually
too decent. That's not good
clip is Ridgeway my clip actually has the punch line but
go ahead play your clip that is probably more sensational.
Yeah, we have to start off by this Russia. You're going to
this is how you start off the the item Russia, Russia,
Russia, Russia is flexing its military muscle it would appear
it would appear is planning to send long range bombers to
patrol the Gulf of Mexico and the Caribbean. That would bring
the flights close to the US to comfort to close rather for come
from
very close it's right here in the context here
and then the picture from Getty Images yes some Obama tuple F
bomb or black and white pictures information which prop they
needed sound effects exactly hold on we need we need prop
sounds do I have props it's really really really it's not
it's
well it comes after NATO warned Russia about moving combat
troops into eastern Ukraine tensions very
very high or bringing tensions very very hot
argument where you say those bombers your this was right
after you as though there's a connection there's no connection
and then they
bring on some douche now the thing with CNN and I'm sure the
blaze does it as well all of these former retired guys
they're all consultants to companies that either directly
manufacture weaponry or our think tanks that help
manufacture that help
yeah no they bring in a professor or somebody who's just
studying this problem Oh it's always former Colonel when they
bring him on he they won't bring him on anything else because
he's like he's a he's a Negative Nelly
not on board not on board. Or like Don you know,
a point about this. I just my clip was better because it said
that nobody in the White House our own government said this is
just a routine flight over international airspace is a
routine exercise which is
which is also we have the open skies agreement right and then
it's just a routine extra we do this yes, we fly over Russia.
It's part of the Open Skies agreement. Yes.
So you don't meet so you put these to us at this is just
trying to scare the American public to so they can be
manipulative. Not
only will I admit that your clip was better, I will also say
thank you for your courage. And in the morning to you John
C. Dvorak. I was wondering if you'd ever asked in the morning
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when you're in New York have yesterday they having a cigar.
Let me
tell you, yes. Oh, for sure. Yesterday, Mickey did a photo in
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know me, it's like, and so we have a door on the other side.
You know, no, no, no, I'm not allowed to not get through the
peephole. No, no, I've been trained. I do not I don't even
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Do likes to if he's like, man, like Oh, can you help me find
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messed up. So we'll get a picture of Jean in the studio
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All right, I'll thanks a few people to get this finished.
Because not much to do here. Anonymous Baron $333.33 from
Jamaica Payne, Massachusetts make Jamaica Plain
Massachusetts. And this is a contribution toward Tom
Canberras posthumous knighthood oh yeah,
this is this has been really this has been really nice to
see.
Yeah, there's a bunch and I think we're almost there.
According to Eric, he's got it down to like seven or $800 so
far. So take a look at Eric's node. Tom, Tom Kuhn, Berra by
the way KU era. And if anyone doesn't remember, you can
actually Oh, I got I got a note from Angela because 757 of the
757 I got a note from from Angela.
Let me see if I have it. Here. She She's also really blown away
by by what's happening home on one so you've just got a minute
I can I think I can retrieve it here. Yeah, put it in my notes.
I when I saw this, I was like, wow, that's gone pretty quickly.
Hey, Adam, and John. I want to thank the listeners gave towards
my husband Tom's passing his knighthood on Sunday show. And
then she so she's thanking the ones that she heard on Sunday
show Taylor Casella, Daniel Torello Bill Hartnett and Carol
Garrett. Of course there's many more that came in today. I'm
forever grateful for your thoughtfulness, generosity and
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knows somehow and is smiling. Yeah, but yeah, we
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a citizen and this just in at the very last moment before the
before we started with them with a with a broadcast after Matt
Taibbi rejected himself from the $250 million WordPress blog
known as The Wizard that long didn't even start the the editor
in chief John Cook has left
that guy came over made a big deal about this you because
he came from Gawker I think. And he's going back to Gawker, just
like time he's going back to Rolling Stone. This tells me
tells me there's some bad poopoo going on there. We spotted that
year drive and we said Yeah, we did. And we're like, this is
great. This is fantastic. Be like now this is bullcrap.
i Before we continue by the way and before we get into that a
little more I do have Joan data phrase note. Oh please. She did
request a couple of sound effects. Okay.
Can then kind of get my pen first for the birthdays yet the
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Alright, I'm such a douchebag again, I forgot to donate for my
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me for that. She says it thinks she meant d do she needs a D
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this Friday. That's tomorrow. So women
she forgot her son's birthday and her husband's birthday.
No, no, her husband is tomorrow. So she remembered that
oh, the kid. Oh, poor kid.
Sir Max and an owl and Alex and she needed even though you
refuses to listen to the show is your husband on there you go
good. I still love him and would like to wish him a happy
birthday then again this really stupid my wedding anniversary
anniversary of the no agenda show fall on the same date
October 26. And I didn't donate for that either. I always mean
to but then I lose my mind I count on you guys to remind me
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Anniversaries are actually three things and and here's what she
wanted. If it's not too late to read it could I please ask for a
president Porky Pig and an Al Sharpton resist we much on
That's not that bad? No, it's not like a confusing mess. And
then that'll finish and we'll have we got her all straightened
out.
Okay, and douching, Porky resist karma.
She doesn't ask for karma, but I give her some okay.
You've been de deuced that's how we that's how we
and that's the story. But resist. We must. We must. You
will my mind. Okay. All right. We're all caught up. All right.
Well, back to this, this intercept thing.
Yes. That's great.
I just want I do want to point out that we said from the get
go, this was the very first day and so who else needs where's
it? What's the guy's name? The hoity toity Professor douchebag,
who was also the blogger Dude, come on, what's his name? That
was consulting for them. It's like Jeff Jarvis.
What's the guy's name and why you wrote it
Brad. Jeff Rosen. Hey, how's that working out for you Jeff
rosin Jay Rosen have with noise from now on. He's Jeff Rosen.
Okay, Jeff Rosen and Jay Jarvis.
Sounds good. Yeah, I guess that didn't work out it wasn't here
it is, you know they're gonna have all this freedom and and
this guy who comes in as the editor he says we're stopping
right now in our tracks. And we're the guy
that said we're going to celebrate the Sabbath or
something when
the whole thing is whacked. Oh,
hey, are you from the hood all of a sudden? Yeah. James Cook is
with an E
No, no, I think because James Cook and
let me see what we have in here we go
and it does. He does. He sent a missive out for us to read about
how why he quit. No, this isn't making too much money.
This is this. This just came in so just before the show starts I
don't know if there's if there's any other news Let me see. No, I
don't have anything else.
What about the site itself? They should have some announcement
there. Well, okay, I EB That's hilarious.
Well, Ty EB what is it? What what's it called first look.
At first look, Meteor. So like they have the crappiest.
I know they. I think the guy is just maybe there was no maybe
they just did this on the cheap. expecting
that now they had they were the grand jury. Well, they're
building a safe room in the New York offices, right?
Yeah, because they're gonna get raided. So but
and by the way, I think that that would make them that goes
beyond their mission, I think are important to now this is
from the 28th so this is the Matt Taibbi announcement from
Pierre and we do drive my car. I regret to announce that after
several weeks of discussions Matt Taibbi has left first look,
we wish him well. Our differences were never about
editorial independence. We have never wavered from our pledge
that journalistic content is for the journalist who decides come
up period. We're disappointed by how things have turned out. He
was excited by Matt's editorial vision and hope to help him
bring it to fruition. Now we turn our focus to exploring next
steps for the talented team that has worked to create Max
publication.
Like to get the real story on this tie is one of those things
that remind reminded of an interview with a with a
Hollywood guy, Michael Bay was on a show that is now not on any
longer. But it was always discussing these little things
with Peter Guber and a couple other other guests. It was a
very it was all inside baseball about the movies. He said, when
he first got the Transformers gig, that you know, he said,
Well, it sounds good because there's a lot of money involved.
And they said they wanted him to do it in Canada. And he goes up
to Canada and he says, This isn't right. There's something
wrong here. This is not good. This is some sort of scam. So he
came back he says I'm doing it in Hollywood with my people.
Oh yeah. But here it is. Grande Grimaldo rap so they had they
pulled Glenn out to write the the old it want to hear it.
Yeah. John's headline doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo John
Cook is leaving the intercept to return to Gawker at the end of
the year. Pretty much now what the intercepts Editor in Chief
John Cook who spent the year tripling our staff size and
significantly increasing our daily journalistic output is
leaving at the end of the year to return to Gawker Media.
Deputy Editor Ryan Tate will continue to work with John and
the rest of the newsroom to effect a smooth transition until
the search for cooks permanent replacement already underway
it's completed. Quote, working with my intercept colleagues has
been one of the most fulfilling things I've done in my career
and my decision to leave was a painful one to make Cook said
but I feel comfortable leaving in the knowledge of this that it
is now perfectly situated to become a powerful journalistic
force under new editorial leadership.
Oh he's a good guy he's one of those guys who never said
anything but doesn't want burn bridges
blah blah let's get a quote farm. Oh, John Cook did a
tremendous job in getting the intercept off the ground said
intercept co founding editor Jeremy Scahill is great. We got
Greenwald interviewing his co founding editors great. He was
the perfect person to lead us through the inevitable
inevitably difficult first year of figuring out how we want it
to function and exactly what we want it to be. We are now
preparing to expand the intercepts coverage and bring on
more journalists
that it was fired for hiring too many people probably breaking
the bank
he he wasn't the guy he saw what's going on so it's it's
phony baloney
was something we met there's something that will obviously
drove him anti EB out
or Tybee part part of it was he was accused of being a dick. He
said yes, he said you stupid bitch or something to some woman
there.
Oh no. Yeah, but then they she was a stupid bitch. Is that
possible? They
brought in independent investigators and they said oh,
there was no harm no foul, but I guess like a newsroom where you
Yeah, newsroom we got it stupid bitch. You missed it. Whatever.
You could take bitch asshole to a guy whatever.
Yeah, that's a good would go on. Yeah, people yell at each other.
Let's see
what New York Times says. If they they okay, they are just
they just quoting Greenwald. Of course. It shows up. So they're
talking about Gawker Media. And they're happy Mr. Nick Denton.
This is a funny, doesn't Nick Denton do like gossip? Yeah,
he's a gossip guy. In an interview Thursday, he will do
what he did best on gawker bring great big scoops. But across the
eight sites, okay.
All right. I have advice for these guys. Bring it somebody
from TMZ.
Exactly. Yeah. More stories about Kim Kardashians, but
that'll work. Man. Oh, man. Oh, man.
You stupid bitches. Funny.
It's something like that. I was reading the whole as rundown of
it. It's just ridiculous. Let me see. Oh, okay. Whoa. Yes. I was.
Sorry. Go ahead.
I'm sorry. I said two words. So that's okay. So
what did you want to say?
My son and I came back. They were in Hawaii.
This is your son who I have a picture of where they lay around
his neck. Yeah, I
know. Apparently, the Hawaiians are all in on hating Obama. You
know, remember when Obama first became president, he would make
this trip to Hawaii for the first couple of years and then
he never went again. So they have these mints. He brought
some back to mint. Mint. Little boxes of mints. I've seen
peppermint. Yeah. peppermints. And one of them says
disappointed mince Obama. And here's another one. lemon
flavored eaves drops.
Prove who makes these who produce?
That's a question that's up for grabs. It's
interested in this. This
is great. The unemployed. He's got some of the unemployed
philosophers guild they there's what they call themselves and
it's on the back of each one. The unemployed philosophers
Guild and I guess they're you know, there's it's a gimmick.
But it's an all the trinket shops. Apparently a lot of Obama
stuff. That's all negative. Interesting. I just thought, oh,
yeah, it was interesting.
Why do we think this is happening?
There's a huge backlash against Obama. And it was all apparently
orchestrated by the Republican Party and I have to give them
credit for it. They had if you went to you listen to the news
hour. They had Debbie Wasserman Schultz,
who is the She's the head of the Democratic Party, the
Democratic Party, committee, whatever, Democratic National
Committee,
I have net this. So this is someone who I I really don't
Like, yes, she is just an annoying person. Totally notice
I say person.
Now let me play two clips then. Yes, just to annoy me. And of
course she's going to be interviewed about the election
by Who do you think on the news our might?
That's not That's not fair because I have your clip list.
So I can send
it
course the hagiography. Let's play well. Oh, Chuck Hagel on TV
live right now with a huge bandaid on his face. Oh,
somebody punched him out. Finally. Wow. You don't have CNN
now, and I don't have a TV. And when I do the show, I do the
show.
Oh, no. But somebody has to keep an eye on the end of the
show. No, I you know, as far as I'm concerned, you, I think it
would be kind of cool to do the show with 25 monitors there and
you can keep looking around it, but it'd be better for video.
Anyway, let's get back to this. I'll get them out of the way. So
Gwen Eiffel asks a specific question, and what is the
question? Well, the question is, is Nancy Pelosi said it was
either an appetite or a disaster, some decisions. She
made some comment and I will ask Debbie wash Wasserman Schultz.
What what do you think of those two things that Pelosi said?
Which is worse? Answer. What do you think the answer is? The
answer is a Debbie Wasserman Schultz. I don't care what
you're asking me. I'm just gonna talk and say whatever it feels
like.
And by the way, it would be funny to have General Dempsey
introduce her washerman Schultz.
Nancy Pelosi said in an interview today that this was
not a GOP way but an ebb tide for the Democrats, which is
worse. Well, what we're doing is looking beyond just this one
election, we felt and certainly last Tuesday was a tough night
for Democrats. But, you know, if you look at 2010 and 2014
midterm elections, clearly we know the voters support our
agenda. They consistently last Tuesday voted to increase the
minimum wage, voted in a gun safety statewide initiative,
three states, one state defeated personhood amendment
she did was she points out that you know, Colorado tightened up
his gun laws and Washington State did too. And so that's a
big movement that everyone's all in with the Democrats. But
anyway, I found a this is a kind of an ask Adam, I think this is
the right clip for it. Do you this is I'm gonna ask you, this
is a clip of Debbie Wasserman Schultz very, it's not too long.
And she's discussing this the election disaster which was her
fault. And she has a new, a new meme a new term something I want
to see if you can identify it in this clip.
We have two electorates that it appears are straightening
themselves out. And we need to take a deep dive look. And
that's why I'm going to appoint a committee in the next few days
to really take a deep dive assessment. There's a disconnect
on on the maximum getting out and voting for our candidates
and midterms and we've got to take a really deep dive on what
found what the problems
what do you think it is that she's trying to say?
How many times can I guess?
Yes, once Deep Dive.
That's that.
That's what I'm thinking.
I know. I know when this is gonna take a deep dive Adam this
I've heard this used by management when they've screwed
something up for a customer. Now we're taking a really deep dive
to find out what's going on. We'll get to the bottom of this
as we take the deep dive. That's it means they screwed up. Big
Ticket big time. Okay, Chuck Hagel. Okay. He had a minor
kitchen mishap
his wife went after him he
stood up quickly and scratched his cheek on an open cabinet
door.
Oh, I you know, I have I haven't scratched my cheek but I've come
up under an open cabinet door and hit myself right in the head
and trickles down your face. I've had that happen to as a kid
I've never
had the blood. Oh, and you see stars Yeah, you had to be
careful you got to keep your cabinet doors closed people.
But you could I put on a nice like Donald Duck Band Aid or
some this is one of the standards
LEA should have there should be some some cute fun. Funny. Yeah,
maybe like smiley faces and make fun of it. No, that's
not possible.
Yeah. No, he's not a funny guy. No. Um,
I see it happened I think right after I know what it was was
Monday. Yeah, Monday. I was I was actually depressed. Whoa,
yeah. For at least 24 hours. And I had drinks actually for
drinks.
Get me to drink so that I get in class. During your lightweight
drinks with something and why is why blu rays good? Yeah, very
good with Eric, the constitutional lawyer.
I had to talk to him in a highball glass while you're
drinking it out of
it. What? Kind of like a tumbler? I would say. Yeah. And
it was orange peel in there and some other stuff. Oh, Eric
ordered it was it was a dynamite drink. But I was definitely
overserved. But I was I was emotional. And he's the only guy
around here I can just unload and say, Holy, Holy, Holy, you
are
crying like a baby. Yeah, I
was. Why, after I read the proposed Net Neutrality rules
from our president.
Let me walk right into that one.
And then and, and I got worse, and you need to see this. I have
set up a little URL for you to visit.
Because, you know, it's this is the end of our show.
Eventually. Well, but what Eric would Eric the constitutional
lawyer said he said Isn't this like really great for your show?
I said Yeah, until it's and he says oh there's that
me the URL I need
to set it up first. So this is a video the President made a video
and and I was so outraged and sickened by the worthless aihole
propaganda at the beginning of this video. Want to see if you
can catch it, John? Well, actually, you're gonna see to me
the itm.im/buffer and take a look at the beginning of this
video
again, it's coming up what do you see it's loading. Okay, what
is it this thing said what to pick net neutrality predator is
a picture of him.
The videoing of Mike Trout lay the video
by the video and the video is down here Okay, here we are.
He's in his studio with loud Where's where's Jean played? And
all this lighting play the video
and tell me what you see at the beginning of the video. Okay.
Says buffer all please frown outraged by this.
This is disgusting.
Now of course it's legal as the Smith Mundt Act has been
overturned, but to put up a fake buffering logo to accentuate the
plan. Here is the audio. Hi everybody, Heil. Ever since the
internet was created, it's been organized around basic
principles of openness, fairness, and freedom. Now, this
will not stand. Actually, the Internet was created in a manner
so that any piece of it could be a blowed up and the rest of the
network would continue to operate. That is Joe's days are
over. It was not for freedom and openness. It was for defense.
Communication. Yes. So But you're right, it must this must
end. There are no gatekeepers deciding which sites you get to
access that must end to We must stop this. There are no toll
roads on the information superhighway. Hello, 1986. We
want our superhighway back. This set of principles. The idea of
net neutrality has unleashed the power of the internet, and given
innovators the chance to thrive. abandoning these principles
would threaten to end the Internet as we know it.
Bullcrap that's why I'm laying out a plan to keep the Internet
free and open. And that's why I'm urging the Federal
Communications commissioned to do everything they can to
protect net neutrality for everyone. They should make it
clear that whether you use a computer, phone or tablet,
internet providers have a legal obligation not to block or limit
your access to a website. Cable companies can decide which
online stores you can shop at, or which streaming services you
can use, and they can't let any company pay for priority over
its competitors. To put these protections in place, I'm asking
the FCC to reclassify internet service under Title two of a law
known as the Telecommunications Act. I'm asking them to
recognize that for most Americans, the Internet has
become an essential part of everyday communication and
everyday life. The FCC is an independent agency, and
ultimately this decision is theirs alone.
But the public has already commented nearly 4 million
times. Yeah, the from all the lobbying groups which primarily
are comprised of Google eBay, Amazon, asking to make sure that
consumers, not the cable company gets to decide which sites they
use. Why am I always a consumer? I'm not always a consumer. When
I'm using the internet, I can be a producer, I can be a
communicator, I can be an academic, I can be someone who
just wants to ping pong with somebody else. Why is
everything, everything on the internet according to the
President, and all the morons, and retards who run this
country, including Valerie, f you biatch Jarrett, why is
everything and consumer? Americans are making their
voices heard, and standing up for the principles that make the
internet a powerful force for change? As long as I'm
President, that's what I'll be fighting for to know. Great.
You by the way, my wife bitches about the term consumer. Well,
she does. He's right. And she actually documented went from
citizen to something there's like about 10 terms for the
public, the public. You know, there's a bunch of things that
became only recently the consumer as though Yeah, all
that it is a complaint is I mean, this consumer, it's
assuming that all we're good, all the good, we are just
consuming crap off of Amazon or to buy, you know, movies from
Netflix. And by the way, Tom Wheeler, the chairman, was
appointed by President Barack Obama. How does that make you
independent? Oh, no, like I'm voting for the guy I'm not
voting him in.
And I will read from you for to you from his from the
President's plan. And he says, once again, the FCC is an
independent agency. Ultimately, this decision is there as alone.
True. However, the FCC can force urge manipulate pressure
Congress into passing laws for this now. I want to so the FCC
should create a new set of rules protecting net neutrality and
ensuring that neither the cable company nor the phone company
will be able to act as a gatekeeper restricting what you
can do or see online. The rules I have asked what have they done
that, by the way, I'm just going to continue the rules, I am
asking for our simple common sense steps that reflect reflect
the internet and you and I that reflect the internet you and I
use every day, and that some ISPs already observe these
bright line rules include Ooh, right. And there's a hyphens
hyphenated. Now, again, the first thing he says here is that
no company will be able to act as a gatekeeper restricting what
you can do or see online.
Who does that? Let
me continue. No company can be act and act as a gatekeeper. The
first rule the president proposes is no blocking. If a
consumer requests access to a website or service and the
content is legal, your ISP should not be permitted to block
it. That way, every player not just those commercially
affiliated with an ISP gets a fair shot at your business, you
lowly, moronic college surfing consumer now. Not. So of course,
I say to Eric to constitutional lawyers. Do you think Eric that
under this WikiLeaks publications would be considered
legal? He says no. How about Snowden documents? would these
be considered illegal? He says no. Now I throw this out by
chance in a discussion forum. And I say who and what is going
to be deemed as illegal content hate speech, bullying, there are
already laws against hate speech in California. So that will not
be that would be illegal content and therefore should be blocked.
So let me just read one response. And which I think is
it's actually a well balanced response. But it's, I think this
is what we're going to be dealing with. And it comes back
to the question you kept asking me, where's this number four. So
this person kts says, Let me get this right. You believe an ISP
shouldn't be able to block your content whenever they want,
whether it's legal or not, that's the position you're
taking that the ISP can block whatever they want from you the
subscriber for whatever reason they want is that okay with you,
you're all hung up on who will decide what is legal and
illegal, that is already in place. Child pornography is
illegal has been for a while for good reason, and will land you
in jail today without the new law. There are lots of other
illegal content types, that does not change with the law. We what
the proposal does change that if the content is legal, then the
ISP will not be allowed to block you from getting it. Why do you
want the ISP to retain what they Do today block legal content
from you, however they want to? Why would you want this? Wow,
that's a good, I must say I have no answer.
There's no answer for it. It's an illogical argument assumes
that there's assumptions being made in that within the
arguments like Oh, Riley, when he when I played that clip
earlier, where he makes assumptions. There's assumptions
that this is going on. I mean, give me an example of where
they're blocking legal content or any content for that matter.
They don't block the porn sites, they don't block the child porn.
They let you do you want to go get it, go get it and then get
arrested. And he'd like he said, people do get arrested. They
just collect it. And the next thing you know, they're in
court.
What's worse, I will submit to you. Now, this is the
President's proposal. All the proposals we've seen have not
used the word illegal. They've used the word lawful, then
they've specifically unlawful unlawful content and, quote,
unlawful network
traffic. And BitTorrent ah,
I figured it out. Okay, encryption.
All right. Of course, they've been trying to get rid of
encryption forever. Nice. Watch. It'll, that's what it's going to
do time today. You got two points. You know, you got none.
What do you mean you haven't you? You've done great with
China, and put the harmonica
do something. Yeah, but it's not. That's not me. That's
anyone could have done. Gambit. That's great. Because that's
exactly what they've been the FBI in particular. boning about
you, oh, you know, we can go into the phones. We can do this.
We can't do that. If we don't have access to it. Encryption is
bad. Yeah, no, exactly. Right. You're right. All all content
has to be sorry,
what did you say? What did you say? I didn't hear it. What did
you say? I said is bad. You said I was right.
I thought I forgot. I can't remember one minute to that.
Now.
That is the number one proposal from the President. Number two,
no throttling. Nor should ISPs be me.
rattling throttling thing? I believe, you know, this,
let me read let me read let me read it, then you can respond.
Nor should ISPs be able to intentionally slow down some
content or speed up others through a process often called
throttling. Based on the type of service or your ISPs
preferences. Go.
You should do that voice more often. Yes, I shall.
Well, did you want to respond to the throat? I
got things to say, oh, first of all, are they doing this now? I
don't know. Well,
well, yes. This is the this is the what started it was the
Netflix throttling. And the buffering which of course, got
everybody all up in arms, because holy crap, I can't see
House of Cards.
And here's the here's the thing about that. And they they they
bought a peering agreement, because they wouldn't use let's
go back. We've talked about this before, I'll talk about it
again. Netflix has these appliances that you that all the
ISPs get for free, and you put them on your server on your
system at the home office. And now you get to direct access to
the most popular stuff, I think 100 terabytes where the movies,
I just want you to know that when we started this
conversation, this exact moment our stream started, got
interrupted.
Yeah, by coincidence, it was on Comcast, Comcast is just crappy
that me, let's get to that. That's beside the point. So they
have these appliances. Now, the way net neutrality works, the
way I read it, the way they're talking about this, those
appliances have got to go, you can't have those that's unfair,
you have to have everything brought in across the pipe from
Netflix Central, and then then fed out, which will mean the
service of you think Netflix was bad. This would be terrible,
because now it's good. It's safe, because if you have to go
to Vudu to get their movies, and then bring them in and then send
them out to the to the client, you have to do the same thing
with Netflix, you can't have the Netflix box sitting there feed
and stuff out. Comcast refused to use these boxes. In fact,
Comcast was more net neutral at that point than anybody else.
And then they did a peering agreement, then it became less
net net neutral. And that got everybody bent out of shape
because of the peering agreement. I guess everybody
wanted Comcast to use the Netflix appliances, but they
didn't do that. And they'd have to have 1000s and 1000s of them
to make it work. Right. But that's beside the point. This
whole thing is completely misunderstood. It's a scam. It's
talking about throttling and what's going on but
hold on. I want to jump in for a second. I assert, the entire
term was only introduced to get to this point of stopping
encryption stopping free speech. The term net neutrality is non
existent in the technical layers of the internet. and how it
works. Just briefly, John Oh, shut up. The peering agreements
is how the internet grew. And back in the day, if you couldn't
get appearing agreement, which meant I would send roughly the
same amount of traffic through through the peer to the peering
point that you would send to me, that's what no money changed
hands. If you didn't have that kind of traffic, you would have
to buy what was known as transit. Okay. And it was all
you said, okay, yes, it's not neutral. It's never been
neutral. It has nothing to do with border gateway protocols
and how the internet really works. It the term net
neutrality, made up by some professor is bullshit.
No, he actually no, the guy who dreamed up the term is
documented, and he now reneged on it.
But it doesn't matter. It's never been, you just said, I'm
just saying.
I didn't. I'm just saying I said so. So Wow. Okay, right.
Net neutrality has never existed in the network. It's never been
there, the net with the internet was not built on net neutrality.
It was built on a bunch of crazy networks strung together. And it
expanded through peering. It was never just a lie. The President
is nearby,
a way to save money.
And in fact, the internet when it's first started, if you said,
Hey, I'm a consumer looking to buy something, people would yell
at you and kick you off. I guess it's true. I haven't forgotten
that
original network was running through these big giant
government run pure and university University
universities.
And then it turned out that caught there was carriage costs,
because it cost so much money to go through some of these, these
giant pipes. And, and people said, well, you know, what, if
you and I hook up together, because half of my traffic is
going to your people, and your traffic is coming to me, we
don't have to go through this roundabout thing, and we just
talked to each other. Okay, we'll sign that. Then they
signed off on and that's and then that hearing room grew. And
then somebody got the wise idea, Comcast, and others, Time Warner
said, you know, what we can do is we can have cable modems. And
then we can buy backbones, and then we can put these little
guys out of business. And now we have these giant networks that
couldn't be brought down by
I want to interject not entirely true. And this goes back to the
level three in the earlier days of where the guys who had the
Metropole metropolitan fiber, they bought up and the smaller
guys all sold out, did Jack's and all these guys who had
little networks, they would fuck it, let's get rich to sell out.
So that's not entirely true that the big guys were evil. This was
a very typical capitalistic monopolistic way
of saying they were evil. I never use the word evil I want
it could come across as that people talk about the evil
Comcast or the evil.
Comcast can't get his act together with my connection, I'm
going to
be well think about this evil about that. Sure.
My connection on Comcast and I am I'm convinced of this. And
I've actually discussed this on DHL unplugged, I'll discuss it
again. I believe that Comcast, once they set up business,
Comcast, they shape their traffic and send all the
bandwidth to the businesses during the day, of course, and
then at five o'clock, when the businesses are shutting down,
boom, it goes back to the users and and which is the consumers
you mean Can they come the consumers you I still stick with
the word now not generations ago consumer. So the users get there
because I here's my my bandwidth, about 10 o'clock in
the
morning, you somehow you turn this net neutrality conversation
into your own personal vendetta against Comcast,
yeah, okay, two megabits per second throughout the day,
sometimes 500k Like round just before lunch it off that hill,
and there's a bunch of slowdowns it taken for two megabits fight
and this is gray out of bounds with what they're promising in
their advertising. And I'm down like this. Oh, it must be your
browser. Oh, it must be the wireless. Oh, it must be this
must be that these are these great suits. experts out there
telling me what's going on five o'clock.
John, you we know that you're on shared bandwidth. That is not
that is the that is just a shitty ISP that has nothing to
do with net neutrality.
Five o'clock, boom. 70 megabits per second. Midnight's 70
megabits per second, the whole thing is 70 megabits per second.
Then here it goes again, during the day it drops down to two or
500 500k. If I'm lucky, have two pages won't load videos won't
work. Nothing works. I can't podcast. We've known that for a
long time been going on for you. Right. All right. And then
Comcast as well. We'll send somebody over.
But you're just an angry consumer.
Yeah. Well, there you have it. We continue
increased transparency. The connection between consumers and
ISPs. I really hate you for saying this. You're not You're
not You're not You're not. You're the president. Me. I know
the President. Oh, so he's the connection between consumers and
the ISPs. We're not producers. We're not academics. We're not
researchers. We're consumers. I hate you for this. This so
called last mile. He's not the owner. I know. Yours you living
in Hello 9093 colleagues. Last, the last mile is not the only
place some sites might get special treatment. By the way,
the last mile is completely within the purview of the ISP to
do whatever the hell they want. So I am also asking the FCC, so
it says so comma, so yes, so comma. Yes. I am also asking the
FCC to make full use of the transparency authorities the
Court recently upheld and if necessary to apply Net
Neutrality rules, to points of interconnection between the ISPs
and the rest of the internet, which is peering this is this is
breaking the system. And the final one, no paid
prioritization. Simply put colon, no service should be
stuck in a quote, slow lane, because it does not pay a fee.
That kind of gatekeeping would undermine the level playing
field essential to the Internet growth. So comma, no, so comma,
as I have before comma, I am asking for an explicit ban on
paid prioritization and any other restriction that has a
similar effect.
Well, it looks like Comcast gonna have to cut off Netflix
with that peering arrangement.
Now Associated Press went deeper. This is this is just the
the little blurb II thing that the White House put out. And we
have here is a common Who is this talking on Monday Obama
wade into the fray get this Associated Press gave a major
boost to interactive activist but activists. I guess we're not
into the activist since we don't believe in it, saying the FCC
should explicitly banned any paid prioritization on the
internet. Obama also suggested the FCC reclassify consumer
broadband as a public utility under the 1934 communications
act. So there's no legal ambiguity that would mean title
to a quote, It is common sense the same philosophy should guide
any servers that is based on the transmission of information,
whether a phone call or a packet of data. He doesn't understand
how this works. Pat, your packets don't go in one stream.
It's a packet of data.
I think you made your point about what he doesn't know what
he's talking about. But let's continue with the read the read.
Yeah, well, the read I wanted to get to net neutrality is the
idea. Here it is. Now, who is fighting for this? First, this
tectonic shift and national policy? Should it be adopted?
FBI would create dev no worse devastating results. This is
Powell who said this who will chair the FCC during the Bush
administration, consumer groups and content providers hailed
Obama's move. These are people who represent us, John, consumer
groups represent the consumers because that's all we are saying
Bhama that actually did Halem consumer, pale Obama, consumer
groups and content providers hailed Obama's move with Netflix
posting to its Facebook page. How fucking sad is this? I'll
read that again, with Netflix posting to its Facebook page
that consumers should pick winners and losers on the
internet, not broadband gatekeepers. The oh my god,
okay, net neutrality here. This is associated press from the
consumer groups who hail Obama. Net Neutrality is the idea that
Internet Service Providers shouldn't block slow or
manipulate data moving across its networks. As long as content
isn't against the law comma, such as child pornography, or
pirated music. A file or video posted on one site will load
generally at the same speed as a similarly sized file or video on
another site. Okay. This is bullshit. It's not that's not
true. There could be a different routes multiple hops will not
the will. And that's what that to say the general Yeah,
beating up what we already know. I think it would I think the
point you made about the encryption and then the
lawfulness unlawfulness is what this is really all about.
arguing the technology wishes you keep drifting into is
fruitless.
I just thought about I'm not arguing the technology. I'm
correcting the yes, the
fruitless. Fruitless. Okay.
Well, apparently just looking from the comments, it's
fruitless to argue at all because clearly, I'm just all in
on the big the big guys and I love Comcast and I'm paying by
Friday, right, and I dream and masturbate. I was Rick. I'm
sorry.
You the Koch brothers. Dude.
That's, I'm waiting. I'm waiting for that. It's
big oil. Yeah, that's talking.
But then Ted Cruz is the biggest boob moron douche bag and I'll
say the retard
is this news. Ted Cruz. You've hated Ted Cruz from the
beginning of the show. No, hit it. I've
never hated him. Ted Cruz clip No, I don't have no it's a quote
no clip. Net Neutrality is Obama care for the internet? You
dickhead. You stupid, stupid, stupid. It's this stupid.
Stupid, stupid, stupid man. With your stupid Goldman Sachs tax
Stupid, stupid wife. You stupid people.
Okay, I think you made your point.
I'm done. I'm done. It
was BS. You depressed?
Yes. Because we're gonna I need to figure out a career. In five
years, I'll have no job. Yours. Oh,
yeah, within five. Once this takes place. And of course,
everyone's all in on it. I said about the number of people that
you see through it, I can count on one hand, and you only have
three. I'm sure a lot of our listeners are in agreement. But
most of them probably still don't know what they're talking
about. And they made out may or may not care. But but the people
I know that sincerely understand that this is a lead in to a
disaster letting the government run the internet, which is what
of course the government wants to do and
to outlaw encryption.
And what's great is that, to me, is the way they've sold it,
which is very much like the I don't want to equate it with
global warming. But they've sold it as a very nice at the
narrative is dynamite. And they've sold everybody on it.
And the term works so well as it is. And you'd listen to these
guys on these podcasts. And they go on and on about it. Because
if if they don't pass that neutrality, they're out of
business somehow. That works. Yes. What's changing? I mean,
what if they didn't, if we just dropped the whole argument
dropped the idea what's going to change is Comcast all of a
sudden going to say, you know, I don't like that guy's podcast,
that's that's throttling. I don't see that they care. That
would be the point.
No, because people don't care about pod. Don't care about
Netflix wants
to do this. The government wants to throttle stuff. The
government wants to end encryption. I think he doesn't
care. As far as they're concerned. Go ahead and download
all the music you want. Just make sure you pay are your bill.
Yeah. They don't care about downloading music. It's only
because the government forces them to care about it. There's
their concern is more work. Why would they put themselves
through doing more work? Oh, let's find a couple of
objectionable podcasts and throttle them. Let's throttle
them. Let's throttle them. That's not going to do this.
Why? Why would they do that? Have you care?
Have you cast your Koch brothers check yet?
I get it right here. 100,000 million dollars. Look, brothers
don't even listen to our show. I've,
I've put an intro to distributed hash tables under the NA tech
heading in the show notes. People should read that that's
where we're headed. That's the only way to be able to maybe get
the seven years.
You know what I think is great as the way they've sold this
because you know the FCC is they see the future. The FCC, the
broadcasting thing is a slow dying business is not dying
tomorrow. It's not dying in 10 years, but it's dying. There's
going to be more people broadcasting, like we're doing
over the internet, using the internet as a transport vehicle,
because it's cheaper, is more versatile that goes all over the
world is you can't do that with a radio transmitter. It's not
possible and it costs a lot of money to run those things. The
FCC looks at this and say, well, we got to regulate the damned
radio and television and we get the talent that they get to
$350,000 fine for showing somebody's nipple and or cussing
once or twice or getting let's get rid of Howard Stern let me
give
you let me give you a better analogy. I am a FCC licensed
amateur radio operator by there's many spectrum that I may
operate in up to 1500 watts. I can't say fuck. I can't sell
something. I can't Broadcast. I can no I can't do it. There's no
free speech on ham radio? No. Because the FCC licenses it.
Right. So hello. And we
know for a fact if you start looking into the record, they've
been trying to get their little mitts around cable TV. Yeah,
yeah. Oh, is there some way we could get a hold of cable TV so
we could regulate it. And then of course, the real goal here is
this charge for licenses you have to pay. It's
very important what you're saying I need to stop you. This
is really important. Cable TV is not regulated by the FCC. And
this was always the problem. The cable companies and the cable
company used to be little guys who thought they were broadcast
networks. And they know, man, the Cable Ace awards. I had to
schmooze with their ugly as wives for years at MTV, because
they were the gatekeepers. They would they determined if MTV was
in the standard basic package or if it was a premium service. FCC
has no regulation, you say this is what is this is why
classifying it as a title to service with all video moving
slowly to Internet Protocol. This is when they when they do
that, then they actually have a real grip on the cable company
as you say. It's this is what they've been right. What is it?
Not 30 years they've been trying to do this? Yes. Do you need old
guys like us to be able to look into the history and tell you
this? People
have been trying to do this forever, and they've been
unsuccessful? Now this is their backdoor. This is a backdoor
methodology to get a hold of all that stuff. That cable, all the
cable programming. Because there's a lot of subversive
stuff on cable TV, there's a lot of cussing, there's nudity,
there's all these things that we don't want because some kid
might see it, you know, and the kid in today's world by virtue
of the fact that they see a lot of nudity they go what so what?
Oh, there's a tip, big deal. I mean, in Europe, that's been you
know, the standard thing even on broadcasting there's tickets
there all over the place. But you know, oh, God, you know,
let's just fight. It's finally because the FCC likes to find
these things that are a bunch of stooges that are on the FCC.
They're always a bunch of idiots. If you listen, go listen
to some of their events that they have some of their meeting
some of their questions and answers are horrible. Yeah, this
is what this is what they're up to in the net neutrality thing.
They must be just due to high fiving constantly right now. And
with the notion that or the fact that the public at large, all
the podcasts are
all in all in in their stroking their white pussies with glee,
as it were. Yeah.
I will. I will add to that, that this is a very unique American
problem. In some regard, this is why it's starting here. Because
and I'm generalizing. So I will preface by saying in general,
Americans are so hung up over public display of body parts and
sexuality and breasts. So it's funny Mickey the other day she's
okay, she's wearing a sweater. So do you like the sweater that
we I'm very good at this. I do the fashion show thing. I said
no. Try the other shoes. And I'm good at this. I'm actually I'm
good at this. I'm sure you are and so she's What do you think
this sweater says? I love this sweater is really great. Ah, can
I can take my bra off? Well, what is the bra for is it said
well to my nipples don't show. I said oh, do you wear a bra when
you're in Amsterdam says no. Here in America. All the guys
like
yes, they do. Obviously what happens? Sad, sad. Do it that's
just the way it is. And these guys reflect that and then they
push it and they make sure that you don't have nipple showing or
anything and that once they get a hold of the internet, there's
a lot of changes a lot of nipples. Once they once the FCCU
which is they're headed for once they own the internet as a as a
regulatory body under this bull crap. Once they're in charge.
You watch what happens and yeah, it's gonna be bad.
That's why this video went viral. This is another example.
Another example from an American perspective. Oh, this is Megan
Kelly introducing Mike Huckabee,
Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee, who's the host of pocket of
Huckabee right here on the Fox News Channel.
She must be find on
the show, but Joanie didn't no agenda. I imagine all the people
who could do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fun
I want to thank a few people. i By the way, we both want to
thank him, obviously. But I want to say I hope we don't talk
about net neutrality anymore. I think it's a done deal. We're on
the outside looking in. And that's just the way it is. I
don't think beating a dead horse it does. We're not changing
anybody's mind. We're gonna change anyone's mind.
Now. Well, can we own the only thing I'd like to do? Maybe I
just want to somewhere, be in writing. Dear people of Earth
like, like the Yoko Ono damn people up, I've
written two or three pieces doing exactly what you suggest,
which was referred to Twitter guys. Oh, look at this. He said
this is I agree with him. Yeah, they already agreed with me
before I wrote it. And you know, yeah, I don't care. Whatever you
think is bowl crabs. DeVore. I tried to get attention,
trolling,
trolling, trolling. And he's the guy that said cable modems would
never work.
Sorry, there's always something I said. Sorry. There's that one.
i Yeah, that's what it leads. They don't work. By the way. The
way I'm getting my bandwidth is Devin was right.
By the way, they believe they are no one ever says anything
about what I used to say. Well, you put it in writing. I did
lots of interviews, but that doesn't count.
No, no. You can say anything you want over the it's interesting
to me that in the broadcast medium, it's like completely set
aside. It's not even even transcripts. Don't get picked
up. It's just a different thing than when you write a thoughtful
essay.
Okay, well, I'm not going to do that anytime soon. Let's thank
our producers here who are voting
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though Technology News has is called only about phones, and
apparently comet landings, and it's just crap. I will say
looking at this new CNN technology reporter forgetting
some dynamite looking women do
you know you're just doing this because I don't get CNN anymore.
RACHEL
CRANE. Hello, Rachel. Alright, keep going.
I'm gonna look around. Let me write his name down RACHEL
CRANE.
She may I think she's the I think she's the newest women on
AlJazeera. Are you waiting to see RACHEL CRANE? She is a
classic.
Okay, let's get on with it. My goodness. By the way, there's a
birthday involved and Nicole Martini. I think we have that
one lined up Keith Ryan Bloomfield, Connecticut. 5678
Rad new per tuck to divide 55 Sir J D in San Jose, California.
5510 went back and forth with him over over my following him
on Twitter, which I did and then he donated weight he's always
donating Kevin deal Charlotte, North Carolina, Sir Kevin Payne
and Chantilly Virginia 5069 and these are all $50 donors which
include Brandon sev why why? Patricia Worthington in Miami,
Mike Westerfield Parts Unknown Jakhu but what what? SCIAC what?
Warjack? I'm guessing North Vancouver, then I would say
Jacob it would be Jacob, Jakob. Jakob Jacob. I said Jacob.
And I'd say Jakob, okay. Paul groves in Wangaratta. Victoria,
Australia Antonio McMullen. Parts Hudson, Paul Vela, in
Milton Keynes. Alexander should Covey and Moscow. Patrick maqam
in Long Island City, cherry wensen Langley, Washington and
finally Vincent K. haymes. in Decatur, Alabama.
I have a note from Terry. Oh, I
want to say yeah, Terry wins. It's not really a note. Terry
wins. I want to sense this check. But the whole envelope is
some sort of Matt, what do you call when you bend paper? It's
called.
Now this the origami?
Yeah, origami. So she sent this huge origami thing with a with a
seal on the back. And it's like you take it off and then it's
like one sheet of paper with a check. And I used that was the
most dangerous envelope I've ever seen. Okay, it was kind of
cute though. But it didn't even say anything in there. Vincent
que haymes. in Decatur, Alabama just said that at 50 bucks. And
finally last and not least was Shane peed in from parts of his
axes. I don't know where he's from. It seems like he's from
Atlanta. And he sent the long note complaining about his wife
and he's a night and it's also as the oldest daughter's sixth
birthday do I don't know if that's on the list. No, I'm
think you're confusing. Is that was that the was that the no
idea? Right? You're right. He was complaining about his wife
and it's his daughter's. I don't know. Does she have a name?
Laney Laney Hold on? I don't think that's on the list.
Actually. Let
me yeah, my give my daughter Laney some birthday love. And
hold on.
So that's Laney from Shane, daddy shame.
Yes. And the resolute as to the rest of the note, we're really
not going to sit here and he was saying that domestic disputes
he rescinded that, by the way and, you know, I don't follow up
notes. Yeah. Yeah,
but he's definitely a complaint to make. It was probably legit.
Yeah. But no, okay. It made me if you
are just a horrible, man. That's really bad. That's really bad.
Well, okay, a light. Light on in on both ends of it. We will be
doing a show on Sunday. I'll be in New York. So highly
appreciate anything that we can
be. Yeah, we're gonna have a show coming up on Sunday. 670.
So think of us in the meantime,
RACHEL CRANE joined CNN is the network's newest digital
correspondent, okay, where she covers Pop Culture and
Innovation.
Oh, yeah. She's the everyone's social network. Uh huh.
In this role, she'll be creating original video content related
to her beat to run across across CNNs platforms. She comes to us
from Bloomberg, where she was a technology and innovation
correspondent who hosted and produced Blum blog, Bloomberg
brink. A show highlighting cutting edge technology and new
ideas. Well, good hire I'd say. She really as she looks great.
Not in this picture. But
she's not she may be pretty, she may be intelligent. She's not
that photogenic. Although the fact even she was on the cover
of Cosmo, apparently. And I don't think you know, okay,
whatever. Yeah,
I can see what she's caused. I've
been blown away by her photos
that I just saw on TV. I'm only talking as a television
producer. I'm not talking as a man. I'm talking about someone
who has hired people before. And this is the direction that
technology reporting is going in pop culture and innovation. That
is yeah,
that's it. Yeah, there's a new Instagram service, Culture and
Innovation. Yeah. And her
back forget tech. So her. Her
credits or credibility comes from covering Pop Culture and
Innovation for several years. By interviewing SpaceX and Tesla
CEO Elon Musk. Famed futurist and Google's Director of
Engineering Ray Kurzweil, and NASA William Gerstenmaier.
That did it she's good. Well, hold
on. She has also traveled to Abu Dhabi to report on the pre
planned sustainable city Mazar, she's toast. She's tasted wine
made by robots in California's Napa Valley, and covered the
privatization of space at NASA's Kennedy Space Center and gone
behind the bars of San Quentin prison to see how the
institution taught inmates to make many satellites.
Yeah, that sounds good. Yeah,
perfect. Right hire a great hire. You know, Lisa should have
hired her
so what is the next thing you were gonna say?
I was going to say thank you all very much for the support of the
no agenda show devorah.org/a Hey
where are we just left it off? Ladies. Happy sixth birthday
from your daddy Shane is very proud of you loves you very much
Nicole Martini Happy birthday to the love her life John Augustino
who turned 30 on November 19. We have Dame Joan daughter Frey who
says oh man, I screwed up happy birthday to Sir Maxim turn 14
last Friday. Happy birthday to your husband, Alex who turns 50
tomorrow and and belated Happy anniversary to her husband Alex.
It was the same date that we celebrated our seventh
anniversary October 26. So happy birthday to all of you. From all
of us here the best podcast in the universe. And then we have
our anointing of Shane Peden and I think he had a name which is
not on this either. Gotta pull it out of the notes. I know he
had a name. Here it is. No. I thought he had a special name he
wanted I'm looking at that note. Now. Maybe it was I thought I
saw that an email could be wrong.
So the email I don't have that
spreadsheet today is kind of in my binder, but I Okay, I just
thought he had a special name he wanted maybe I'm confused that
somebody else does not matter because we still pull out our
blades as mine.
Hold on, by the way before I pull mine out, as it were. Yes,
this woman, RACHEL CRANE is has no Wikipedia entry but she's
listed prominently and IMDb know who's dating who?
Who she dating.
She was dating this guy Elias could follow this can follow
this. Who looks sketchy. And then some Tom Cruise looking
character that's named Robert shwartzman. But she stopped
dating him in 2008. I think she's dating this other guy. So
that's good to know. Good
to know. Yeah. Thank you. That's why we are the best podcast in
the universe. It's about time you all right, shaping come
forward, my friend and please step on up. As we hereby proudly
Knight V to join the roundtable of the Knights and Dames and
call you sir shaved season we have for you. You may need him
hookers and blow red boys and Chardonnay as cream and bear
feelings porn stars and pop opium and warm orange juice.
Happy when mingled bourbon served by Oktoberfest frontlines
wenches and beer bong hits and burn more maybe just a button in
need all for you please go to no agenda nation.com/rings And I'll
look again to see if I can find the email I thought somebody you
had a special night name you want either way
there's so this RACHEL CRANE is a different RACHEL CRANE. Oh,
okay. She's an actress.
Oh, there's there's a rogue person. Yeah.
It's the same name. If you're in showbiz, I don't know what's
going on. You can write you and you can fight
that, you know, you can fight that your mic stand is got a WD
40.
No, I actually have the right stuff for it. It's called the
reticle branch handers and there's I found this lubricant
that makes it's the greatest stuff ever. out we will talk
about in next show now and I'll put some on the stand. So I
don't have this. This constant squeaking I know what you mean,
because it would stop doing it. So I didn't pay much attention.
Now today.
It's actually funny because a couple times during the show, I
would hear the sound and I thought it was a text message or
something coming. I had no idea and then I recall. Yes. It's
just really bad today. It is it is yes. Worse than has been. I'm
gonna write this down. What's it called?
ranch hand or something like that. I'll get the name dueling
ranch hand. It's a very obscure lubricant that I saw. Yeah, I'll
bet Oh, no, I'm telling you for like WD 40. And just any sort
of, it's a synthetic oil. So it's a very slippery rock. Girls
want to try it on any ranch. thing in Holy mackerel
ranch hand. It's a little pricey be on the safe side. That must
not be it.
Now I know what you're talking about. I don't know you're just
trying to be you're just trying to be Hey, what you're trying to
do, hey,
new entry in the DSM. DSM is of course the Bible for OKAY, ALL
THINGS crazy that it really is just a sales tool for the
pharmaceutical industry. Okay. orthorexia nervosa, have you
heard of this? Would you like to hear about it? No. No, you
don't? Would you like to hear about
it break it down to say it has something to do with
striving to eat healthy foods is a good thing unless you take it
too far. And increasingly, experts are seeing people slide
into an obsession with healthy eating that can be decidedly
unhealthy and even lead to malnutrition. Here to tell us
more about the condition some experts referred to as
orthorexia is WSJ health reporter Sumati. Reddy. Sumati.
Thanks so much for being here. Tell us about this condition is
it officially recognized? So it's not it's not in the DSM,
which is like the Bible of mental illness? It's coming. But
some experts will say that there are certain categories that
could fall under. And it's similar in some ways to
anorexia, but different in others, correct? Yeah. So like
the driving, sort of motivation behind it is very different than
anorexia because it's about quality of food, not quantity.
And it has nothing to do with body issues. zactly and trying
to be thin. Exactly. No, there's just people who really just are
concerned about what they're putting into their body. It has
to be organic, it has to be vegan and has to be certain type
of food from a certain grocery store, that kind of thing, but
the same issues of control and denial can be at play, correct?
Yes. So you do have a lot of similarities with obsessive
compulsive disorder as well as like anorexia and sometimes it
can lead to anorexia because these people end up you know,
not eating a lot of food. Sounds like the kind of thing that can
start very innocently with a positive idea of changing your
lifestyle and eating healthy foods and then vegan, it's a
slippery slope, correct. So it's actually so you know, you get
people who are like gluten free and they're cutting out in their
dairy free and they're sugar free card free and so many major
food groups. There's not much that left that you You can eat
and that's how you end up, you know,
dying. Okay, dust.
It was funny. I had to we had Ron and our friends Ron and
Peggy over. Was that maybe
a Friday? you've discussed them before on the show, Ron and
I may be wrong and Peggy are born and bred Texans had been in
Austin since early early 70s. Very famous for the restaurant
Jeffries, which they sold
them. You have we have talked about this because of Jeffrey's
right. And they're, they're your age, you know, so I get along
famously with him. Okay. And we were talking about what came up
was DDT, and I'm not quite sure
what I already know where this is going.
Well, now these are Austinites. So they are, you know, they're,
they can they were only like, Hey, what's your view on on
ISIS, or their sons works for UNESCO is going to do to jika
stone or something. They're really worried I said, and, of
course, I laid into it, that, you know, going to Tajikistan is
just as
pleasant as hell for these people to come over for dinner.
They get they get, they must be having the shakes when they
leave your place.
Mickey actually, she said it's she's she's Do you think that
they're really a friend or they just want to come over to laugh
at us?
No, they I guarantee that's, well, I'm sure that that was
some of your other friends. Not these not pegging where they
shake their heads ago. Can you believe what that guy thinks?
Yeah, I'm sure there's a little that
they were actually worried about. That's just it's more
dangerous to drive to Houston than it is for your kid to go to
Tajikistan.
That's true. Yeah, but come up with a stat that proves that.
So we were talking about a noun pissed off, I can't remember
what it must have been something that we did. Anyway. I said,
this is just like DDT, which, you know, got taken taken off
the market with all these lies, it was creating cancer and
killing eagles and, and I said, the guy who invented it, of
course, millions of people died since because DDT is no longer
allowed to be sold. And now people have malaria. And he
said, Well, it's funny you say that? Because when I was a kid,
he did it when I was a kid. We weren't. We were not rich. We
lived in the cheapass neighborhood. The DDT truck
would come around, and we would all be so happy and we'd be
jumping around to get sprayed completely by it. So we wouldn't
get all kinds of fleas and ticks and crap. And I said, No, you
did. He said no.
Which is to add to it ever heard about the DDT truck? Oh, well,
that would be Texas. That was great.
I didn't I didn't do any DDT truck, Texas. I didn't do any
research on Oh, I can find the fog truck. Oh, they fog you with
it? Yeah. In San Antonio. There it is San Antonio. Ha. And
people the kids were so happy. You wouldn't have lice. I wonder
what I want. I
don't know somebody that stockpiled. Or their father
stockpiled DDT. Because he thought that thing was something
of a scam in Georgia somewhere. And they had so many barrels of
it, that he keeps spraying his area and according to you can,
according to this person telling me the story you can from a
satellite photo, you can see that it's like this green lush,
fantastic block of goodness in the middle of nowhere. That's
all dead. And because this stuff is you know, if you get hacked,
you can get a hold of it. It's like really a great bug killer.
But it doesn't include DDT anymore, I presume?
No, this was DDT. Oh. It was just straight DDT. Anyway, yeah,
it was it's an actually interesting story of me the
argument out here in California, where a lot of this stuff begins
was that it was making the Pelican eggs. I was at
harlequins.
You're right it wasn't eagles, it was pelicans. Pelicans. Yeah,
we
were getting thin and they blamed it on DDT. And I don't
have that documented that possessively began the whole
thing because we need our pelicans which is a great bird.
By the way, if you're driving around the San Francisco Bay
area, there's a lot of pelicans around and you see him flying,
if you can put two and two together and see how the
reptiles became birds. Then you're you're oblivious to the
obvious Okay, well I got some I got some Oh, there it is again.
I kept Yeah, it's my my style of what I'm doing. I got it. I got
a guest the movie. Oh, I have a couple complaints by the way up
for that. I'm gonna come out on the show. I've been about
me about me in particular, but things to do. I want to start
with one of the good plates I thought we're doing guest the
movie for guest
the movie after this. Okay, this one I want you to get this will
be another Adam gets something. This is what's wrong with this
clip from American Dad. Okay,
so is this an ask Adam is this kind of well you know it's just
not not don't worry about it.
And lastly the schools are running contain mascots been
missing since last week if anyone sees it, I learned the
new head of the zoology department.
There it is. It would be zoology instead of Zoo.
I like to know how a Seth MacFarlane has a huge staff of
people. I don't want to beat this to death.
I've been to a table reading Have you know this? Right?
I think you mentioned it once before. There's a huge number of
people and that the table reading is a good example. And
he put the table Oh 2020 And they all read this script and
then they somebody says zoo ology, and nobody says anything.
Okay, well, then you're dealing with idiots. Seth has Tourette's
by the way. Oh, that makes nothing but sense.
He's got the same tics that I do. Which is why I'm convinced
he doesn't like to do interviews.
Oh, that would explain it. He's very rarely on an interview. I
don't think I've seen him once. Ever.
All right, time for guest guest the movie. Yeah. Guest the
movie. It's time for another episode of guests that movie.
All right. Here we go. Everybody gets that movie. The game show
where I suck I like a lot of call it for sad enough? I guess
so.
I got set to the scene. So you can really get get it because
you just don't seem to seem that you know what this is?
You don't even let me respond. But okay, okay. You need to set
the scene. Go ahead and listen.
She says I like foreplay, grabs her breasts and then she says
that's enough. And boom. I just wanted to make sure you had that
part is I'll give you another hint. Okay. Matthew Modine. Yes,
of course. It is.
This is Ferris Bueller's Day Off
you only get one guest. Oh,
I can't do that. Have a second guest The Breakfast Club. What
is it? Private School? Oh, I've never seen that one. How could I
know that?
I gotta get I gotta get more. I gotta get a better feeling for
what kind of movies you like. So I can
I can. I can tell you what movie I watched last night with my
wife.
Okay, what?
What's her name? Candace Cameron. Cameron Diaz. With the
sex tape.
Can his camp or kidney sex tapes and intimate? Yeah,
that's where she makes a sex tape or their husband and that's
supposed to be very funny movie. I have to tell you. We were
because I had done all my prep during the day. Okay, I had and
I even ate my head a pizza during the preps around six and
seven o'clock to have done and really tired and said well let's
watch a movie and we're scanning through the the Netflix and oh
that we wanted to this is gonna be the dumbest movie ever. And
it was really not it was pretty good. Rob Lowe. Perfect Rob Lowe
character. Somebody could have could have cut some bits out of
it. Camera and a lot of camera naked. Very, very sexy. The
premise of the movie is completely stupid. It was I
liked it. I would give it a seven. I'm just quite high.
Okay, fine. And you should become a reviewer on Rotten
Tomatoes. And I said
to Mickey, I said I should have paid attention when Cameron's
mom was pushing her onto me during circus of the stars.
Really now she's 13 So I don't know. Which she was kind of old.
You 1919 2019 It's kind of homely looking.
Yeah, she needs makeup shapes but but she blossomed.
All right. Well, then I have only two more things. I don't
know if I could save some of it. I think I should do the bulletin
Yeah, the Ebola piece Oh law, as predicted. Sir Bob Geldof and
amid your your buddy mid your ultravox and big announcement.
big big big big announcement, Band Aid. 30 everybody. That's
right. Releasing once again. Do They Know It's Christmas time.
And this falls right in line with not only Facebook, but
Google, both soliciting donations for Ebola. So we're
ratcheting this puppy up even though there's been no Ebola and
care alone for 42 days more than 42 days now. But I think adding
credence to at least my thesis slash theorbo theorem, that this
is bullcrap to surround the oil arm some rebels. The President
finally released his own where's it released? The gonna get it
here. The we did the fiscal year 2015 budget amendments? I think
we did that. Right. Perhaps. Okay. But I asked Congress to
consider inclusive and close fiscal year 2015 budget
amendment for the Department of Defense. This is to combat Of
course, the the cuts in the increases, amendment will
provide for $5.6 billion that's for the degrade and ultimately
defeat the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant. $5 billion, in
addition to the $58.6 billion bringing 260 $3.6 billion for
some more money. Nothing. I'm sorry, the ISIL stuff is not in
here. Okay. Oh, the Ebola stuff.
So well, I've
kind of go back to Ebola. Yeah, hit it. So the two things are
one. I find it very disturbing. Is Google and Facebook. raising
money for Ebola? I don't understand. What why. We mean,
why? Why are they doing it? I said I don't understand. They
say because it's I think it's just ramping up hysteria. We do
have a pandemic elections are over. Yeah. They just started
this. On think they
missed a point. I don't know. I don't know. They didn't know
this was all about the elections. We have
Molly involved in this as well. You know, Molly now has and we
know our economic hitman has said yes, yes, yes, yes. The
Ebola. In my seven year old seven year old a mom died from
Ebola and the 24 year old nurse who was treating him. That's the
way I want to go. So a lot of so this is coming back. We have sir
Bob and Mitch, you are a little bit of their announcement to Bob
Geldof he now he's been called by the UN. Now this is what he
does. They pay him to do this. They pay him and then you have
theirs. They've got all kinds of little companies. It's all on
the show notes. If you're interested in looking at it. We
have the what is it called? The word charm limited, which is the
the company that handles all the rights and licensing for Band
Aid hashtag band aid 30. And you look at Harvey Goldsmith, he's
the big concert promoter put on like a
band aid 30 for Ebola, it's for Ebola, and you're not gonna fly?
Well, I'm telling you, the Ebola thing was all about the
elections, the elections are over.
It's not all about the elections. John, it's about
Africa, and West Africa in particular, you know, this has
been my thesis, which is why it's ongoing. What's interesting
about this is that if you look at the charter of the we're
trying to limited and the band aid 30, which has been renamed,
their charter has always been to feed the world and make sure
that they then continued on some proceeds still, which is very
low at this point, have been going to, you know, help feed
the world. But now all of a sudden, which is not the charter
of the charity, they're going to feed Ebola or or help a bola
because the UN has asked Bob Geldof to do this, telling me
again that remember the world food programs involved. You
remember John the big scam we talked about? Yeah, back to
Yeah, we talked about it quite
a lot of pressure on Mitch myself to do it for, I suppose
cultural reasons or whatever documentaries and things. And
neither of us are into nostalgia. But about three weeks
ago, I got a call from the UN saying that they required at
least a 20% increase across the board and systems and materials.
So this is how it works. The UN is calling everybody they're
calling Geldof the calling soccer Zuckerberg they're
calling Sergey or Eric or Larry or whatever. We need 20%
increase
in personnel. They can't put a number on it. But they're very
concerned that this Situation in West Africa will either spiraled
beyond those borders sometime around the beginning or mid
December or will be contained. And then
it sounds like we only have a couple of weeks before spirals
out of control. I
think what triggered it both for Mitch and myself was the
phenomenal bravery of the national health workers, the
nurses and doctors at
disguise of whoring.
Okay, so you don't want to hear it anymore. Do you want to hear
the song?
I had the song yeah
the songs, the songs aren't out yet,
guys. I'd be very interested when it comes out.
What's gonna be Phoebe bola? Do They Know It's Christmas time?
fidi that's the song. You know the song?
Yeah, you think they would? No, no, no, you're just now you're
off to edge. That's
the song. It's it's the remake.
You're gonna remake it and use the word Ebola and yes, well,
you
don't want to listen to the Geldof. So you found out that
don't because
it's like stick pins in my eyes. Listen to that guy Yak. I just
wanted to get one thing out of the way since we seem to be
ignoring it to an extreme on the show, which is that Mexico is on
the borderline of having a revolution down there. I have
not yet covered by us. It's not being covered by the mainstream
media in the United States. It's being covered internationally.
But they're burning down the place. That area where the 43
students were murdered by the US is being burned to the ground.
They've they're now they're in Mexico City burning down the
palaces. Tell
me please tell me. Well, let's
play a couple of reports. So we can at least get up and then we
can good. And yes, because I was France 20 fours report on this.
to Mexico now where protests angry over the disappearance of
43 college students have set fire to a state Congress
building in Guerrero states. It's just the latest in a series
of violent protests that have erupted since Friday, when
authorities said that a drug gang were responsible for the
murders. It's an official line the protesters refused to accept
Oliver Fairey has this report.
Relatives of the 43 missing students are angry and still in
the dark. They met Tuesday night with independent Argentine
investigators only to learn that the bodies found in a mass grave
close to require may not be those of the missing families
are remaining cautious nor will I lose the evidential case and
when in light of the evidence found is back when travelers
wall how it was found on the London scene where it was found
that on tourists they still no confirmation via Nose, nose
multiple. Now obviously the genetic forensics have led us
down a different route Yangdi Granata rombo. The federal
government had said last week that gang members confessed to
the killing. But speaking to France farm cat Mexico's deputy
foreign minister said the government was not rushing to
conclusions and
they are missing and they will remain so until we know exactly
the identity of the remnants that were just sent to one
specialized laboratory in Austria.
Protesters on Tuesday Hales Guerrero states Japji security
chief for several hours before handing him over to a local
human rights group. The ruling Institutional Revolutionary
Party is regional headquarters were also torched. The
demonstrators say they want justice for the 43 students who
went missing in September. Amid the unrest President Ernesto
pinion Yeto has been criticized for traveling to China for a
summit. The tragic murky case has undermined his assurances
that his security strategy was bearing fruit and reducing
Mexico's infamous gang warfare. Okay,
we have something to do with this with our situation with the
Sinaloa Cartel, but they never discussed any of that play the
democracy now is a slight another take on this. These are
all slightly different perspectives.
Okay. All right. protests are continuing across Mexico after
the apparent confession of confession of gang members for
the massacre of 43 college students in the southern state
of Colorado six weeks ago. On Friday, the Mexican Attorney
General said suspects in the case admitted to killing the
students and incinerating their bodies leaving investigators to
the remains. The students disappeared following a police
ambush fueling public anger over government corruption and
Mexico's endemic violence. On Saturday, a breakaway group of
protesters set fire to the door of the presidential palace in
Mexico City after a march that Truthout Dozens of people.
Mexican President Enrique Pena Nieto has drawn criticism for
leaving Mexico to attend the APEC summit in China amidst the
unrest. A new report from a leading Mexican journalist says
pinion Yeto lives in a private mansion owned by a contractor
who received a lucrative government contract to build
high speed rail. We'll have more from after headlines. Okay. Ah,
this is getting strange. And then we have the last clip. I
have two more, but I think what I'll do, which is, this is the
guy who's the head of the Mexican law journal, speaking
and discussing the possibility of a coup d'etat. Yeah. Okay,
which can happen at any moment, apparently. And this is the
Mexico of fancy ideas
straight. That National Palace was birthed by Governor
provocateurs and a coordinated action all of a sudden, a few
hours later, Pinyon because we say no to violence, we are in
favor of peace. Violence is done by the Mexican state. We don't
have to wait for it at the local. This isn't a little
better local massacre, it already happened. And so that's
where the average is coming. Of course, hopefully, there's not
another one. But on Wednesday, and there's something out I
know, I'm taking up too much time. We can come back to this
Wednesday on Monday. Sorry, this this Monday, the Mexican
military and you mentioned booking the vessel. What
happened in Burkina Faso coup d'etat on Monday, the Mexican
military front page on Tuesday, but on Monday, the general
synthwave was said we are ready to intervene not only to combat
organized crime, but we are ready to intervene to defend
Enrique Pena yet those political reforms, structural reforms,
economic reforms, this is a political agenda that the
military is setting out there. And this is very dangerous.
That's why it's very important that we're here in Paris. And
then there's a lot of international attention here
because otherwise, the Mexican military, which historically has
been very well disciplined said Midas is already getting
Germany's mind started to get fancy ideas, and that would be
dangerous. There's a lot of, huh, okay, can you break it
down?
Trying to now but the thing is that we're not I believe the
United States is is yet to get involved in this. And that's why
the news outlets we don't discuss it when you look at the
foreign this time this country is burning.
I would say that the reason why our news in America is not
showing it is because no one is being offered for interviews by
the by the strike department, because that's typically how it
happens. What are we going to do? Oh, we gotta call it Oh, in
talking to some guy okay. No one's there's no Booker's going
out there trying to find news, Booker's talent Booker's. Okay.
The military coup d'etat is that the is that's a
possibility, although this guy Enrique Pena, Neto is a would be
part of it. Whatever is going on is it seems to be a little off
script from the normal stuff that we look at. It's it's right
on our border, which you'd think that would get a little more
attention. I border, Hulu, my boy. Right on right next to it
right down the street from you. Yeah, it's right down the street
from you. And it's like, I think it needs to be followed a little
more closely, because nobody else is discussing it. I mean,
we had enough trouble trying to get anything going with the
Venezuelan situation we had people criticizing us for. But
yeah, for not having not being able to do anything for lack of
information.
Yeah, we had no information, no insights we get same situation
here. I don't know how many we have a couple of Mexican donors.
And I'd maybe even a night. That would be nice if we heard from
them. But this situation looks grim. And it may be something
has been boiling over for some time, which would account for
all the people flocking across the border. Because this country
is a mess,
because it's messed up. Right.
I mean, you can play the last clip, if you want. Unity, this
is they put the Mexican military on trial or for for a previous
massacre that we've never discussed in the United States.
They are now trying seven or eight military officials in
civilian courts. This is a major advance in terms of justice, but
they're doing it because of the international pressure. They're
being tried not for this massacre, but for the previous
massacre on June 30. And flat layer, which was absolutely and
totally covered up by all members of government in
particular by the federal attorney general for three
months until the Associated Press and independent witness
came out and made this international scandals before at
Napa before this more recent massacre. And that's what forced
the Mexican government to now try these these military today
with a new massacre Nuala which was much worse. Once again, the
military and the federal officials are being protected.
Ah. Well, I think one thing for sure there's drugs involved.
There's drugs involved and apparently there's a A lot of
disappearing going on in Mexico is being discussed in the UN and
some other centers of influence and mostly in Europe.
And so let me ask you a question. Should Miss Mickey go
to Mexico City to discuss her art Expo there?
I don't see why not.
You said the country is on fire. It is as Mexico.
She's dying. She's got an escort. She's fine. She's gonna
roam around. I mean, I can. There's so many people that
disappear. They just keep disappearing. I mean, there's a
lot of kidnappings obviously that go on in Mexico and that's
been a huge problem where if we even if this has been going on
for a decade, hey,
let's kidnap the tall blonde one I hear he can get lots of
donations.
i My experience in Mexico last time I was in Mexico City was
Don't do this. Don't do that. Drive around in the richest of
the rich drive around and bulletproof Junkers. Nobody can
drive around in a nice Mercedes or anything else because it gets
because you'd look like a target. And that was like a
decade or maybe even longer ago. I mean, it's been deteriorating.
So God knows what the heck's going on? I don't think it's I
don't think it's a place you can't visit if you're cautious,
but it's not. And this is all taking place south of Mexico
City even though Mexico City was where the riots were. They had
some there and they burnt to try to burn burned down. One of the
executive mansions but it was not the place he lives because
he lives in a fancier place. They had the honcho, the
president el presidente de
Okay, so two things I've learned from this one. We certainly need
help from our Mexican producers. I don't think I've received
anything any feedback info, whatever. We need some boots on
the ground information to second thing I've learned when you for
the people who are making us jalopies to ride around and with
the big engines, bulletproof I liken it to be Bulletproof
Bulletproof jalopy with a big engine sticking out. All right.
Bulletproof Bulletproof. So tomorrow morning or lie we fly
to New York City? And if not, if not everything has been
disrupted by the peak of the cycle Genesis. Which Kakou
predicted. And I guess we're gonna see if we can change our
strategy there on Syria by Sunday to put more boots on the
ground and to get them out. Everyone's doing stuff and at
work. And we are here to deconstruct it for you.
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