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eat bugs.

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Adam curry, John C. Dvorak.

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Sunday, May 10 2015. Time for
your gizmo nation media

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assassination, Episode Seven to
zero. This is no agenda.

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Celebrating matrons and I'm
broadcasting live from the

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crackpot condo and FEMA Region
six in the capital of drone star

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statement. Morning, everybody.
I'm Adam curry,

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and from Northern Silicon Valley
in the Tower of Terror, where I

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won't botch the opening.
Mother's Day, Buddy Johnson and

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Bushkill

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were so you were so low on that
if I had to ride levels that

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just get you out of the mist.

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Here I am. In the morning
finally out of the midst of the

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mist and

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terror with a Tower of Terror
All right, kids.

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They could walk around your
house with a wide berth.

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That's the crazy walk around
trying not to fall down.

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Like crazy guy there in the in
the Tower of Terror. Don't look

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don't look.

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Yeah, well, let's say Happy
Mother's Day right off the bat.

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Happy Mother's Day to you,
mother.

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Happy Mother's Day, Mama.
Neither of our mothers are with

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us.

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know this is true. Yeah. But in
spirit, perhaps I get

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melancholy. Melancholy on days
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That really do.

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Do I mean, I would say no to
that because of the the number

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of listeners, producers and
supporters who chimed in about

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Mother's Day Zero.

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I know. This is part of the
melancholy you see. Just like

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everyone who listened to this
show hates their mom. Yeah. No

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mom donations could zero. Well,
I to be fair, your newsletter

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was about eating bugs. It was a
little,

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but I did the one before that
was about the mothers and hey,

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you got nothing. So what

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is this bug thing? This is this
is I think I've heard this for a

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while. A couple of years this
has been bubbling under but now

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it was, was it banky Moon who
came out and said

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they edited the more corrupted
the two Kofi and now

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Kofi anon. Oh, Mr. World, the
food program.

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Yeah, Guy guy eat bugs.

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While I steal the food money

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and he goes on. He says 3
million people eat bugs. Why

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don't you? Why don't you
Westerners?

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Well, this is an appropriate
question. I've eaten

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grasshoppers. You do you

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routinely egress out? No, of
course not. But I have served

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for dinner for friends.

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I have I'm just saying I have I
have you served him for dinner?

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No, I have eaten them. They've
been served to me.

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I refuse to eat bugs. Screw it.

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For this crappy just scratch off
that survivor episode they

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wanted you for. Okay, fine.
You're off the list. Anyway, by

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Presidential Proclamation. This
is of course, Mother's day the

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President has proclaimed it
thus. But a little twist today.

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Little twist.

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Sometimes a little Chubby
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you got a little a little twist.
Each day Americans dedicated day

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to honor the remarkable women
who strive and sacrifice all

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year to ensure ours is a nation
where all things are possible.

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Whether married or single, LGBT
or straight, biological,

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adoptive or foster mothers are
the bedrocks of our lives and

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the foundation of our society.
Very nice. They are first

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friends and teachers. That's
interesting. You gotta hear the

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president. You got a little
melancholy on this whole thing.

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No wonder why and so you're
gonna know.

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I sent me his mother's also
gone, isn't she? Yes, of course.

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Of course. Know about that
course.

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All right. Can rig the whole
thing that way they're doing it

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with the mom around. No.

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So see what you've been doing.

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eating bugs.

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I went to I went to Swan Lake
last night. Oh, to the ballet.

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Yeah.

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Have you ever seen it? Have you
ever been to a cute Yeah, no,

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but

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you're cute too.

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I got the tickets myself by I
saw it announced the Austin

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ballet and I said you know so
let me get I've never seen Swan

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Lake I might as well do it now
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God Swan Lake is playing let me
get some tickets immediately.

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I knew you're gonna be a dick
about it. Oh yeah. Have you seen

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Swan Lake? Yeah,

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apparently you thought it was no
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I thought it was a little slow
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I kind of what I liked the most
it was over before you knew it.

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This I liked the way they have
it set up here in the long

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center. So you can just like
Broadway you can take your drink

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in in a sippy cup. Which works
great sippy cup and and then you

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can prepay for the for the
intermission. And then your

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drink is sitting there waiting
for you and and the animation is

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like 3540 minutes intermission,
then another 20 And they're 20.

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Boom, we're done. It was it was
nice. I liked it. I like

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Tchaikovsky.

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So I'm glad to hear that

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already into the music has never
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was not newer yet on stage.
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I can tell you that. Some was
some fat guy.

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Now come on. Did you see Nuria
of Dan's versus anybody? Come

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on? Yeah, well, that's true. For
any of the guys. Yeah, it was

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like,

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Look, listen. Yeah, one of the
best ballet companies in the

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world here in San Francisco. You
know, you do

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I know. The all the thing I
really thought was cool is I've

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never seen it before. And people
in 1877 We're watching this the

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same performance on stage I
think that is still watching.

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It's kind of cool. Did you think
that in 200 years people will be

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listening to the no agenda show?

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Let's hope not.

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Hey, what's this thing USB
stick? What the hell is that?

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Has bass Would you look at these
CDs? What is the problem with

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doing topical material? What

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are these shiny discs?

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I've always found that to be
disappointing. What? Topical

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material it has no legs. I mean
historical topical material. No

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topical material like what we're
doing. Were we are recording

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recently who reads The London
Times from 1840. Nobody

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true. Been.

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So you enjoy the show. Who would
you take?

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A nurse Tracy? Of course. She's
my cultural attache. Hello.

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Did she enjoy it? Yeah, that's
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Hey, I liked how much of

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the tickets cost.

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Oh, don't even get me started.
They actually they had tickets.

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To me, I'd let me guess what
they would be if I'm thinking.

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Let me try to think logically
about this. You're in Austin,

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Texas, NASA kind of one of these
capital Tasos capital city. You

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know, people were dressed. You
got a lot of pretense here

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long were dressed up. It's the
long center which is our big you

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wear a tux? No. There were
people with bow ties and all

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that stuff. A tuxes? It's your
couple. Yeah, man. The women all

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dressed up all

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look great in a tux. I do live
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do look good in a tuck. Armani.
By the way, it was Hugo Boss

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who? Yes.

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All right. I wanted to do a mia
culpa. Please hear me so it was

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not our money who built it or
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SS, or anybody else in your
business? You go boss,

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and they look cool. You got to
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Yes, actual stuff still looks
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Hey, Hugo, can I have one of
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what he's doing with the
armband.

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Aaron judge judgment. Man. All
right. What do we have to talk

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about? Well, there's

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different things maybe you would
like to start it off with? I

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think you predicted correctly.
The election in the UK. And they

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as you predicted this, the whole
media narrative being very close

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to close to call, which is just
to soak the parties and any

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money they can just to suck it
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But it didn't seem that close at
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Well, let's start with a couple
of clips that reaffirm this,

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this problem that nobody in the
media wants to identify for

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obvious reasons because it would
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their own pocket that's there.
So they're stunned by this sort

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of thing. So let's play a couple
of these clips indicating that

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let's try. Cameron surprised
when this is on Deutsche Ella.

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All right now to the other story
here in Europe dominating the

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headlines that dramatic outcome
of the British General Election

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dramatic polls

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predicted a dead heat between
the Conservatives and the Labour

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Party. Prime Minister David
Cameron pulled off a stunning

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and decisive victory. Cameron's
Tories won a clear

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mandate Yeah, though now form a
majority Conservative government

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leaving all the major contenders
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Yay political freefall. Yeah.

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In Federation.

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And here's another one. Cameron
wind is the PBS. You.

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Joining me for more on the
outcome is Robin Niblett. He's

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the director of Chatham House
and independent policy institute

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in London

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independent.

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This is just number one to your
playing things. Number one, let

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me check. I'm sorry, my mistake.
No. They're both named. No,

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that's weird.

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That's just one. I got it. I

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got it. United Kingdom woke up
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elections to find the same
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with a message from voters that
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the end, it was a trouncing by
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David Cameron and his
conservative party won an

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outright majority in parliament,
you'll return to number 10

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Downing Street for another five
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we must ensure that we bring our
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scan that clip, skip it, go to
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Joining me for more on the
outcome is Robin Niblett. He's

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the director of Chatham House
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in London. Robin Niblett
welcome. So how do you read

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these results?

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Well, they're remarkable in the
sense that no one predicted them

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coming out quite the way they
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Conservatives might be able to
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not expected. I think it tells
us that at some level, the

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British people are still pretty
cautious. Yeah, sure.

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And we must do one more. Okay,
keep pounding this home, which

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is British arithmetic

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guy. Yes, of course, party
leader Ed Miliband has now

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resigned.

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Britain needs a Labour Party
that can rebuild after this

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defeat. So we can have a
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working people again. And now
it's time for someone else to

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take forward the leadership of
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Two other leaders have also
quit. First, Nick Clegg of the

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Liberal Democrats, who was
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previous coalition government
for the Liberal Democrats,

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right. Nigel Farage of the
Euroskeptic party, you Kip, it

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attracted 13% of the vote, but
only won one seat? A bitter pill

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for Faraj. But that's British
electoral arithmetic.

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You know, there's a big thing
going on. There's a bunch of

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protests that weren't covered by
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I you know, I'm going to
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because it was covered by the
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the BBC. even

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nicer. I then I stand or sit as
it were corrected. But let's

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talk about this PR thing, which
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representation, which is a big,
they're fussing about?

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Well, the losers are fussing
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but look at this.

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I mean, here's I've got a list
of these, here's the percentage

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wins is that the Conservatives
got 36% of the vote, Labour got

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30% of the vote. And you know,
it's reflective, the Liberal

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Democrats got eight votes, the
you Kip got one, the SNP, the

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Scots, they got 56 members in
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look at the percentage to vote
percentage is 36. For the

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Conservatives 30 for the labor,
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that, is you Kip with 13%. Yeah,
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is the Liberal Democrats who got
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vote, the Scots only had 4.7% of
the vote, and they got 56 People

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in as though there's some giant
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think is a mistake to think
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including the Green Party had
only 7% of the vote and they got

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23 People not the Green Party
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So you KIPP is the third most
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the country. They got one joker

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shirt. Well, we can have them
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was the style the way the
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little groups, they have like a
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is it really that different? Of
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fairness, we do it with the
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gerrymandering. Yeah, and
bribery and hookers and

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blackmail. That's how we we do a
much different but it's more fun

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for everybody to be honest.

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You may lose but did you see
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The problem is is for me, is
that Faraj thinks he's going to

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quit now

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he's not quitting. He's coming
back in September. This is

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already I've already seen this
happening. Well, he's gonna He's

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gonna run to he's gonna come
right back September October,

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Faraj will be back one,

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he's the one who got them up to
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almost single handedly at least.
But whether they are ever gonna

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get enough, you know, to do it
the right way to get 13% of the

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Is there an easy way to explain
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with the UK system? So our
producers at work or around the

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watercooler can speak with it so

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yeah, the easy way is that these
it's, it's kind of the British

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version of gerrymandering. You
get these you can get like I

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say, you got okay, they got 30%
of the overall vote. But it was

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like just under in a bunch of
different areas where they were

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trying to run people with very
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It's just one it's just some,
it's an arithmetic thing. It's

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like you can't or what does it
based on it's based on area and

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everyone if you run it
everywhere as a UK, you know,

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different all kinds of you Kip
candidates running they all

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lose, but they all they get a
close number of votes to the guy

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who won. They

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Okay, yeah, so they lose they
lose that particular district or

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area.

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Yeah, but they got a lot of
votes but didn't help. So what

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do you got a lot of votes. I
mean, Gary Johnson ran as an as

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the libertarian and got a
million votes. So what didn't

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What does that accomplish? You
got a million votes are you

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actually on He's got 2 million
votes. I voted for him, by the

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way.

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So there were some protests
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BBC did cover it. Despite that,
it didn't take long people

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tweeting me like, is it not
being covered? Blackout media

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blackout blackout? No, not were

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there. That wasn't me. It wasn't

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blackout, Blackout traffic

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cones and smoke bombs were
thrown at the police as they

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confronted demonstrators in
Whitehall. The police said four

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of their officers and one
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injured to required hospital
treatment. It started as a

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demonstration outside the gates
of Downing Street against the

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election of a new conservative
government. And what the

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protesters saw as five more
years of austerity and welfare

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cuts.

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Exactly. Yeah, bend over here
comes again, people.

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Yeah, the big thing right now
that problem I see in England is

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going to be

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Brexit, the Brexit.

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Well, that is coming for that.
That's not going to happen.

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Let's face it, they're going to
they're going to manipulate that

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so that so they vote all we love
the EU. There's no way they're

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getting out. But the
Conservatives now feel they have

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a mandate, because they before
they won the majority this time,

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the last election, they didn't
have the majority. So they had

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to do a deal with the Liberal
Democrats, which I think cost

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the Liberal Democrats are all
the seats, they lost like 50 of

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them or something, because
because the Liberal Democrats

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and the conservatives shouldn't
be in bed together. It just

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doesn't make sense. Right? And
they lose it looks like the

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Liberal Democrats sold out. So
now that the Conservatives don't

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have to deal with these guys,
these these these characters,

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they can now run roughshod over
the country. I think that's

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what's going to happen.

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Okay. Yeah, I found it. Of
course, the minute we were done

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with the show on Thursday, I was
watching. I don't know, it just

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it seemed it's a boring process.
Lisa, we have hats, streamers,

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and we got a little whistles and
socks, hats and streamers they

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needed to, you'd expect that
they would know about hats and

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have that going for them. But
no, no, no, no, no.

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Well, I think it might make it
more entertaining. When they

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have that parliamentary thing
they do every week, I guess,

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where they yell back and forth
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Just in Parliament when they
have regular session. You mean?

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Yeah, this

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session where they come up to
the guy asked questions. And

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they one guy what his name Ed
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How unfortunate. They voted out.
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he was they always like he
always got called on because the

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the head of the, the, the
whatever, it's the parliament,

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they have the House House of
Commons ahead of it, who runs

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it? Loves to yell out Ed Balls.

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Of course, to funny Ed Balls.

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I have an update and one of our
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me this think it was producer
Alex, hey, he's our guy in

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Panama. And he said you
overlooked something on the

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German wings. preliminary
report. This is the the suicide

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pilot. And of course, I was
surprised that they did

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ultimately find the the flight
data recorder by the way they in

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this report, they say they found
the whole data recorder and had

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to pry the memory module out of
it. So that official report and

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it was AP and I was sure to
think that everyone's reporting

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that the memory chips had popped
out. They couldn't find it there

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anyway. So now the and this
thing they have a picture of it

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you can't even see it's like a
like a blue blob of coal or

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something. And somehow they got
the data off of it. But there's

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one little thing that I missed
on page 28 And I have it here in

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front of me. So I'll read the
this is a rundown of what they

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recorded with the cockpit voice
recorder and the flight data

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recorder. interphone sounded
cockpit four minutes 40 After

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Captain left three other calls
on the interphone sound of the

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cockpit now the calls using the
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And then this is 33 seconds
before impact. Yeah, I can't

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make this shit up. An input on
the right side stick was

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recorded for about 30 seconds
but was not enough to disengage

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the autopilot. So 33 seconds
button which as we know is

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usually a little bit of code.

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Three seconds 33 seconds

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Hello. The so this the right
side sake that would be the

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first officer side that copilot
and he was apparently a chord if

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you're gonna believe their whole
their whole report. He was

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trying to put some kind of input
into the side stick but it

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wasn't enough to disengage the
autoplay eyelid, which I don't

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know enough about that
particular system. And yes,

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autopilot doesn't disengage if
you just kind of tap a little

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bit or do something, or at least
it shouldn't, for accidental tap

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edge. But this would. This could
mean a couple of things. One, he

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had remorse at the last minute,
but for some reason couldn't do

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anything about it, too. He just
keeled over something touched

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the sidestick or he was really
trying to so they give no data,

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they don't tell us how much
pressure was or input was

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actually recorded. And, you
know, there are numbers for

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that. He was trying to
disengage, but perhaps the

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autopilot was uninterruptible.
That would be my, my final

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amount

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to signal your theory. Yeah.
Yeah. He's trying to trying to

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correct that problem. Yep.
Didn't have time to do anything.

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I mean, it was

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or it wouldn't have mattered how
much input I'd love to we have a

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lot of Airbus airmen. And if
they know anything about this,

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I'd love to hear from him.
Because I know a lot about

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aviation but I've never flown an
Airbus nor would I damn plastic

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airplane

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flown a simulator Airbus.
crashed it of course. Yeah.

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It's very hard, very, very hard.
So in elections here in the

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United States is a new meme that
is popping up and actually got a

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story about it. Ignore Ed put
out a report regarding this, but

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I have clips from three
different people involved in

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elections, two who are running,
and one who's a douchebag, who

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is covering the elections. And
the first one is presumably the

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front running the GOP candidate
Ted Cruz

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that the day Iran acquired
operational nuclear weapons,

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those weapons might well be
used. The threat is unacceptable

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they could be used as some
discussion has been had to

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launch an EMP attack.

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EMP attack. Then we just got
news that NORAD is returning to

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Cheyenne, they moved out of the
of the Cheyenne Mountain near

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Colorado Springs, and now
they're moving back in though I

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didn't know this. Yes. And they
say, here it is the why because

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the enormous bunker and the
hollowed out mountain mountain

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built to survive a Cold War era
nuclear conflict can also resist

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any electronically
electromagnetic pulse attack, or

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an EMP gear is

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they would know this before they
moved out. It wasn't just

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discovered.

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Maybe they are more worried
about one. We heard three they

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moved

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out so something screwy can be
put in there.

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Yeah, viewers Michael Huckabee
also a hopeful for the

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Republican Party. We

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face not only the threats from
terrorism, but also the threat

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of new kinds of dangers from a
cyber war that could shut down

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major financial markets to
threats of an electromagnetic

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pulse room and exploded device
that can fry the entire

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electrical grid and take this
country back to the Stone Age

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and a matter of minutes

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bruja we can fry the grid and
take this country back to the

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Stone Age in a matter of
minutes. Bitches vote for Mike

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The hell is that the grid? And
then of course, if you want to

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know what the agenda is being
run by the Republican Party, you

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can listen to a couple of people
I suggest this guy

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ran is detonating missiles at
exactly the altitude for an EMP

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use what they're launching. And
this is the head of their

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military says we're launching
this missiles and they keep

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blowing up at exactly blowing

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up because they're pieces of
crap.

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You're missing the whole point
he's going to tell you they keep

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blowing up. Exactly. They

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keep launching this missiles and
they keep blowing up at exactly

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the same altitude know what it
is. But let's just say it's you

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know, you know, 21,000 feet.

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Great report. It goes,

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I don't know where to go.

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Say 21,000 feet sounds good.
When it goes up

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21,000 feet, it blows up, blow
down and the press would say a

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failure of the missile. Next one
goes up 21,000 feet blows up.

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Next 120 1000 feet blows up.
They've done this now for

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several years and it keeps
blowing up at exactly the same

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altitude. And this is what you
have to keep doing it. Right.

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Why did they have to keep doing
it? They've done it for several

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years. Let's send it up. Boom,
send another one up. Let's do it

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again. What was the point?

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This is what their leader of
their their missile program

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said? They were they were asked,
you know, what do you say about

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all these failures? And he said
failures. Failure can only be

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judged when you know exactly
what you're trying to do. It's

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real. It's real. It's real.
Real.

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So this will be and I think we
have this in the previous

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election cycle in the general
election, or maybe in 2008 when

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we had the EMP thing was that
the last time we heard about it?

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I don't I remember it was
probably 2008 Because I remember

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you were all in on it.

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And I said well, I still have a
Faraday bag with a with a ham

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radio or a bag. Of course where
it

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is it is a hat What do you got
on your head? A Faraday bag.

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Give us Burton aluminum foil.
And then we went to you when you

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were selling your your little
Cessna you we ran into some guy

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was an engineer in the in the
that he lectured us about this,

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about the impossibility of

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it. What was that? I can't
remember. That was in the

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in the lounge at the airport.
There was this guy who just

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happened to be working. He
worked for Lockheed or

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something.

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Oakland Oakland airport, was
that it? I

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00:25:55,260 --> 00:25:56,520
think yeah, the Oakland airport.

461
00:25:57,120 --> 00:25:58,950
I vaguely remember that. Yeah,

462
00:25:58,980 --> 00:26:01,440
well, I remember it and the guy
went on and on and buses in New

463
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,050
Delhi discussed why this is
bullcrap this whole thing, just

464
00:26:04,050 --> 00:26:05,130
a bunch of nonsense.

465
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:11,550
Well, for Huckabee and Cruz to
say it and black, black back

466
00:26:11,550 --> 00:26:11,970
cause

467
00:26:11,970 --> 00:26:15,210
is exciting, but I think it's
been on the TV shows quite a

468
00:26:15,210 --> 00:26:18,570
bit. They talk about it on it.
The threat

469
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:22,200
Well, luckily, luckily, if we
need to know anything, but

470
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,980
regardless of who becomes
president, if we want to know

471
00:26:27,360 --> 00:26:31,710
what is going on in the military
slash military industrial

472
00:26:31,710 --> 00:26:36,240
complex. We have a new group and
a new guy to go to and you'll

473
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:37,680
never guess who it

474
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:42,360
is. does not bear. Nope. It's a
guy.

475
00:26:42,360 --> 00:26:45,930
So it's not a guy who he's no
longer in politics. He retired

476
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:51,330
but he once was. He once was a
he was a congressman and he and

477
00:26:51,330 --> 00:26:53,040
he represented he was the
chairman of

478
00:26:53,340 --> 00:26:56,370
Lieberman because he wasn't he
was a he was a senator. He was a

479
00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:00,390
chairman of a very important
bonehead. The guy from Michigan,

480
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,130
but the radio talk show him
that's

481
00:27:02,130 --> 00:27:05,070
the wires Mike Rogers. Yeah,

482
00:27:05,220 --> 00:27:07,710
and that show ever gone on the
air? No, I think

483
00:27:07,740 --> 00:27:11,310
I think he this was a like a red
herring or something. No, wait a

484
00:27:11,310 --> 00:27:19,590
minute. His bio says he's a
staple on radio. Okay, yes. What

485
00:27:19,590 --> 00:27:20,640
does that even mean?

486
00:27:21,180 --> 00:27:25,320
staple? They staple. staple.
Like, you know, it's like it's

487
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:29,070
like bread. Mike Rogers. Yeah.
It's like bread.

488
00:27:29,820 --> 00:27:34,710
So he has this, this new, this
new outfit called apps. I can

489
00:27:34,710 --> 00:27:38,910
just see the meeting apps stands
for Americans for peace,

490
00:27:38,910 --> 00:27:43,170
prosperity and security. And
when you think about it, that's

491
00:27:43,170 --> 00:27:46,170
a horrible name for radio,
because just gonna plop in

492
00:27:46,740 --> 00:27:51,720
Americans for peace and
prosperity securities. He has a

493
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,450
little video on his website to
explain what he is. I took off

494
00:27:54,450 --> 00:27:56,610
the first 30 minutes of bull
craps

495
00:27:57,060 --> 00:27:59,940
apps. Yeah, but the threat
matrix facing America.

496
00:28:00,180 --> 00:28:02,490
Let's just stop right there.
Right made matrix.

497
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,710
Are you ready for it the threat
matrix, it's a matrix. All

498
00:28:07,710 --> 00:28:08,310
right, Mike.

499
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,790
But the threat matrix facing
America today has never been

500
00:28:11,790 --> 00:28:16,290
broader, broader. from ISIS and
radical Islam nuclear Iran to

501
00:28:16,290 --> 00:28:19,350
cyber hacking attempts to
disrupt our very way of life my

502
00:28:19,350 --> 00:28:21,690
very way of presidential
leadership and emphasis on

503
00:28:21,690 --> 00:28:22,560
American secure

504
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:26,070
that will lead screw my ballet
next time on the very way of

505
00:28:26,070 --> 00:28:28,890
life. Can I not go to the ballet
because of cyber ever

506
00:28:28,890 --> 00:28:33,570
been broader? from ISIS and
radical Islam, a nuclear Iran to

507
00:28:33,570 --> 00:28:36,450
cyber hacking attempts to
disrupt our very way of life.

508
00:28:36,870 --> 00:28:40,080
Our presidential leadership and
emphasis on American security

509
00:28:40,110 --> 00:28:44,580
has never been more critical.
Hi, I'm Mike Rogers Am I formed

510
00:28:44,580 --> 00:28:47,460
a new organization, Americans
for peace, prosperity and

511
00:28:47,460 --> 00:28:50,580
security. To ensure the next
President is prepared to address

512
00:28:50,580 --> 00:28:54,090
today's threats on day one, will
raise the level of debate by

513
00:28:54,090 --> 00:28:57,390
moving candidates beyond just
rhetoric and talking points, and

514
00:28:57,390 --> 00:29:00,210
will inform and involve citizens
and early presidential

515
00:29:00,210 --> 00:29:03,570
nominating states on national
security issues. Yes, to help

516
00:29:03,570 --> 00:29:06,810
elect a president who supports
American engagement and a strong

517
00:29:06,810 --> 00:29:10,470
foreign policy. By connecting
top foreign policy and business

518
00:29:10,470 --> 00:29:13,020
leaders with grassroots
activists. Apps will be the

519
00:29:13,020 --> 00:29:16,350
premier national security and
foreign policy organization

520
00:29:16,410 --> 00:29:19,830
during the 2016 debate. We are
going to make a difference and

521
00:29:19,830 --> 00:29:23,910
you can to join us contact apps
today. Learn more about our

522
00:29:23,910 --> 00:29:27,090
mission and help keep America
safe and secure for your family

523
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,150
and for the future generations
of Americans. Yes.

524
00:29:30,870 --> 00:29:32,520
This guy think he is

525
00:29:32,550 --> 00:29:34,470
did you see who's on his board?

526
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:35,790
Oh god. Yeah,

527
00:29:35,820 --> 00:29:38,310
he's got it. He's got he. She's
going to we're going to be

528
00:29:38,310 --> 00:29:42,240
hearing from Mike Rogers. Let's
hope not. Greg Brown chairman

529
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:48,330
and CEO of Motorola. Big deal.
John Coburn. Former commanding

530
00:29:48,330 --> 00:29:54,420
general US Army men. Yeah, okay.

531
00:29:55,170 --> 00:29:58,320
Hadley usual suspects the guys
are gonna make it happen that a

532
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,230
bunch of guys he rounded up I
think that some of these people

533
00:30:01,230 --> 00:30:04,050
can make it happen with Dave day
one I haven't heard one yet.

534
00:30:04,230 --> 00:30:11,130
Okay, um, you go to their team a
team team to this Mike. We have

535
00:30:13,530 --> 00:30:17,880
I thought we had a guy from a BA
Systems on there as well. Which

536
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,270
would make sense if we're gonna
go with Arab people's names like

537
00:30:21,300 --> 00:30:25,260
Kissinger Yeah, he's just no one
that you're right. It guys

538
00:30:25,260 --> 00:30:29,820
us dude you don't think he won't
you know he's like the I think

539
00:30:29,820 --> 00:30:33,930
what he did is he saying you
know the guy who's done the best

540
00:30:33,930 --> 00:30:38,190
job of making something out of
nothing is this character Grover

541
00:30:38,190 --> 00:30:42,750
Norquist. Yeah Grover Norquist,
of course shows up and he has

542
00:30:42,750 --> 00:30:46,080
this pledge, he makes all these
Republican signs saying they

543
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:51,420
won't raise taxes, the tax
pledge. Personally, if I was my

544
00:30:51,420 --> 00:30:54,480
representative, and it was,
let's say it was Republicans,

545
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:58,890
let's say I was a Republican.
And my representative signed off

546
00:30:58,890 --> 00:31:03,180
on this Grover Norquist Pledge.
I'd say, I'm Dave, my guy

547
00:31:03,180 --> 00:31:07,710
supposed to be working for me?
Not for Grover Norquist. Right.

548
00:31:08,100 --> 00:31:12,510
I would, I would vote him out.
And this rising would Roger saw

549
00:31:12,510 --> 00:31:14,880
how well it worked, because
everyone had to sign the pledge,

550
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,060
or they'd go after you. Oh, you
were gonna raise taxes that's

551
00:31:18,060 --> 00:31:22,500
vote him out. That's bringing a
conservative, some new guy, a

552
00:31:22,500 --> 00:31:27,570
neocon or something. So I
believe. And I would also guess

553
00:31:27,570 --> 00:31:31,200
that Roger signed this thing I
would, I would bet Romney

554
00:31:31,230 --> 00:31:34,530
probably. He said, Yeah, that's
a great idea. I think I can do

555
00:31:34,530 --> 00:31:36,600
that. Because there's money to
be made. He thinks he's gonna

556
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,430
become a multimillionaire.

557
00:31:38,460 --> 00:31:42,270
I agree. And then if you look,
because of course, I have them

558
00:31:42,270 --> 00:31:46,350
on my calendar for the next form
990 filing? Well, not so much.

559
00:31:47,490 --> 00:31:49,920
Contributions are not tax
deductible for federal income

560
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,950
tax purposes. So he just asked
him for money to put in his

561
00:31:52,950 --> 00:31:57,360
pocket. Not even not even a
nonprofit go

562
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,340
to the trouble of doing the
final one.

563
00:32:00,420 --> 00:32:04,920
And I don't think he can it you
know, that that does have

564
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,170
restrictions with it. Certainly,
if you're going to be working

565
00:32:07,170 --> 00:32:08,220
with Republicans.

566
00:32:09,990 --> 00:32:11,520
Which he may be I don't know.

567
00:32:11,610 --> 00:32:14,880
Well, he's probably going for
the Koch brothers money. Yes.

568
00:32:16,890 --> 00:32:17,670
Good luck.

569
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:20,850
I thought it was funny apps.

570
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,500
It is funny. It's hilarious.

571
00:32:22,860 --> 00:32:25,260
Apps, please, Mike Rogers.

572
00:32:27,150 --> 00:32:31,320
And he's doesn't seem like a
like a guy who's really that

573
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:32,010
sharp

574
00:32:32,910 --> 00:32:35,280
that he seems like a guy. Well,
he, you know, he does a good

575
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,890
read, reasonably good reading
from the camera that works.

576
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,170
Maybe he's seeing the Huckabee
route. He's like, you know, let

577
00:32:40,170 --> 00:32:42,630
me get involved early, but I'll
make my friends early. Bring him

578
00:32:42,630 --> 00:32:45,390
on in in this money making
exercise will be on the radio.

579
00:32:45,810 --> 00:32:48,600
And then maybe just like, Mike,
I can go and run for president

580
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:49,140
one day.

581
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,240
Yeah, I don't know. Well, we'll
have to keep track and we have

582
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,040
to get some copies of his show.

583
00:32:56,550 --> 00:33:01,440
I don't even know if it's on the
area. I'll be Mike Rogers. Well,

584
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,080
let me guess Mike Rogers show.
Oh, yeah. It'd be

585
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,720
the difficult the Mike and Mike
Rogers show.

586
00:33:07,470 --> 00:33:09,000
Something to talk about.

587
00:33:10,050 --> 00:33:13,380
With the D or not. No, no.

588
00:33:13,530 --> 00:33:18,990
It's something to talk about
with Mike Rogers. And when is it

589
00:33:18,990 --> 00:33:24,120
supposed to light? Cumulus?
Right. This is the cumulus?

590
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,630
Yeah. Isn't that limbaugh's guys

591
00:33:27,780 --> 00:33:29,460
know he's EIB?

592
00:33:29,490 --> 00:33:33,600
Yep. Okay. This is why Westwood
one cumulus is a part of

593
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,250
Westwood one or whatever.

594
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:36,480
I can't keep

595
00:33:36,510 --> 00:33:42,930
I don't think he's on the air
yet. John. Strange.

596
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:45,960
It's probably because he stinks.

597
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,310
Yeah. Yeah, that could be a
distinct possibility.

598
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,950
You know, going on a date I
think is supposed to be a daily

599
00:33:52,950 --> 00:33:56,940
show. And it's gonna be a who's
gonna do a real talk show daily

600
00:33:56,940 --> 00:34:00,840
talk show. That's three hours a
day. Yeah. And mostly you

601
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:04,980
yakking because the days of the
call and have kind of slowly

602
00:34:04,980 --> 00:34:08,850
evolved into pontificating
coming up. The best example of

603
00:34:08,850 --> 00:34:13,530
that would be Sean Hannity. This
guy comes on and he just can't

604
00:34:13,530 --> 00:34:14,460
stop talking.

605
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,830
And then it goes on and then it
does the TV thing. But once

606
00:34:16,830 --> 00:34:19,350
you're in that vibe once you're
really rolling on a regular

607
00:34:19,350 --> 00:34:23,940
schedule, it gets pretty Do you
have if you have people to help

608
00:34:23,969 --> 00:34:26,699
Oh, yeah, no, you have the right
because you have a lot of help.

609
00:34:26,729 --> 00:34:29,699
That's true big team but this
guy this Hannity, I think we've

610
00:34:29,729 --> 00:34:33,059
even I mean Limbourg does his
radio show and he doesn't do

611
00:34:33,059 --> 00:34:38,039
anything else. Hannity does the
radio show plus an hour a day of

612
00:34:38,039 --> 00:34:43,769
TV which is really is just as
difficult Yeah. I don't know how

613
00:34:43,769 --> 00:34:46,979
he even does it but as yak yak
yak, a guy can't stop talking.

614
00:34:48,389 --> 00:34:52,889
Rogers goes from being kind of a
dummy to to this he gets not

615
00:34:52,889 --> 00:34:57,029
possible. Well, taking a lot of
calls

616
00:34:57,870 --> 00:35:02,610
will will keep our eyes on him.
I miss him, you know, but he was

617
00:35:02,610 --> 00:35:04,890
always funny when he's talking
about how we're all going to die

618
00:35:04,890 --> 00:35:10,380
and ISIS is going to kill you in
your sleep. You know, MPLS

619
00:35:10,830 --> 00:35:13,980
cumulus, yeah. And now of
course, we're seeing all the

620
00:35:13,980 --> 00:35:16,980
issues are starting to crop up
because whatever happens, you

621
00:35:16,980 --> 00:35:19,440
know, you have to hate
Republicans. They're obviously

622
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:25,440
evil. Yeah. And but there was a
very strange show business news,

623
00:35:25,500 --> 00:35:29,670
actually. That to me immediately
was apparent what was going on.

624
00:35:29,670 --> 00:35:35,070
But I have a clip from NBC and I
have a clip from CNN, where both

625
00:35:35,070 --> 00:35:39,630
times this guy is on being
interviewed. And the obvious

626
00:35:39,630 --> 00:35:42,330
question really doesn't come up
even though all of his talking

627
00:35:42,330 --> 00:35:46,950
points or memes are right in it.
This is Sofia Vergara has ex

628
00:35:46,950 --> 00:35:47,850
fiance

629
00:35:48,930 --> 00:35:50,700
Mike Rogers. Yes.

630
00:35:52,950 --> 00:35:59,520
No, his name is a lube, lube
lube and Nikolas Nick lube. l o

631
00:35:59,550 --> 00:36:06,150
EBLO. Baby. Oh, EB lop Bob.
Yeah. I said lube. I like Lou

632
00:36:06,150 --> 00:36:12,480
better. Now he is. He's an
elite. Baa. He is from the I

633
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,840
think he's from isn't he somehow
deliberated to the Lehman

634
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:20,970
Brothers family. He'd been
around. Actually, he he also

635
00:36:20,970 --> 00:36:26,430
worked for his uncle's film
studio Universal Studios. As an

636
00:36:26,430 --> 00:36:32,430
advisor. Oh, yeah. Primary money
primary colors. where he is.

637
00:36:33,750 --> 00:36:36,360
Here is he Oh, I know. You've
worked with Leon sorry. He

638
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:40,800
worked with Lehman Brothers.
That's what it was. Anyway, so

639
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:45,390
he's a he's an elite. And here's
what happened. He and Sofia

640
00:36:45,390 --> 00:36:53,040
Vergara froze to impregnated
embryos. I know. This is why

641
00:36:53,250 --> 00:36:56,700
this is why it's a fascinating
story. It's a fascinating story.

642
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,750
And that's why they broke up.
The way he tells the story not

643
00:37:00,750 --> 00:37:05,430
in these clips is you know, they
tried to they they she wanted to

644
00:37:05,430 --> 00:37:10,680
have a surrogate to the big
planted two or implanted two

645
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:16,050
embryos into a surrogate and one
was rejected. The other was a

646
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,350
miscarriage. Then that was it
took them like four years and

647
00:37:19,350 --> 00:37:23,100
then eventually they broke up as
he says because he really wanted

648
00:37:23,100 --> 00:37:25,710
kids and she didn't been dead it
they had fro. He's got

649
00:37:25,710 --> 00:37:31,380
like the body to crank out kid.
She's the. She's nuts. Well, I

650
00:37:31,380 --> 00:37:33,030
mean, she is like, if you look
at her,

651
00:37:33,060 --> 00:37:36,210
you don't know what her reasons
aren't. It's not our

652
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:42,120
actress or reasons. It's gonna
ruin my girlish figure.

653
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:44,310
screwball actress.

654
00:37:44,340 --> 00:37:45,330
That's a reason

655
00:37:45,390 --> 00:37:48,270
ladies and gentlemen, no agenda.
You hear what everybody's

656
00:37:48,270 --> 00:37:51,540
actually thinking? Yeah.
screwball actress. And by the

657
00:37:51,540 --> 00:37:54,120
way, well, actress, by the way,
as we know, never marry an

658
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,070
actress. Bad idea.

659
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,370
I mean, Scarlett Johansson was
pregnant had a couple of kids so

660
00:37:59,370 --> 00:38:02,010
far, and she was pregnant during
the filming of this movie.

661
00:38:03,540 --> 00:38:08,370
So this guy is suing now for his
two girls back. He said they're

662
00:38:08,370 --> 00:38:12,690
girls. And he went almost they
didn't name them, but he could

663
00:38:12,690 --> 00:38:17,520
have. And so now the
controversy, which is clearly as

664
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:17,610
the

665
00:38:17,610 --> 00:38:18,270
girls,

666
00:38:18,450 --> 00:38:22,350
they're in, they're frozen. Oh,
the you mean, the girls are

667
00:38:22,350 --> 00:38:26,940
frozen. Sophia Sophia has a new
a new guy. And he has he's I

668
00:38:26,940 --> 00:38:31,380
think he has, I don't know if he
has new, whatever. But he wants

669
00:38:31,380 --> 00:38:34,860
to have him back and he wants to
raise the girls. He's got what

670
00:38:34,860 --> 00:38:38,310
my bring my girls but hashtag
bring my girls back. But of

671
00:38:38,310 --> 00:38:38,850
course,

672
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,570
they're they're not frozen eggs
then their embryos? I said

673
00:38:42,570 --> 00:38:45,480
embryos? Yeah, you did say
embryos. But I was not

674
00:38:45,510 --> 00:38:49,320
registering this as though they
were fertilized eggs. Yes. Well,

675
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,290
how do they know they're girls?
Or is he just wishful thinking?

676
00:38:52,290 --> 00:38:57,570
Well, this is exactly what the
debate should be about. But it's

677
00:38:57,570 --> 00:39:00,300
Hollywood. So we're going to
this is going to spin up and

678
00:39:00,300 --> 00:39:02,610
then there's an obvious place
this has to go.

679
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,370
You each sign an agreement
saying neither of you would

680
00:39:05,370 --> 00:39:09,510
bring this embryo to term
without the others consent. I

681
00:39:09,510 --> 00:39:12,420
mean, it sort of seems like a
dead issue at this point. Is it

682
00:39:12,450 --> 00:39:15,870
Sofia Vergara beautiful actress.
She's about to get married,

683
00:39:15,870 --> 00:39:18,450
she's starting this new life
very successful. She doesn't

684
00:39:18,450 --> 00:39:23,130
want to have a child with her
ex. You are perceived as the guy

685
00:39:23,130 --> 00:39:26,370
who cannot let go of a
relationship. She wants to move

686
00:39:26,370 --> 00:39:26,910
on. We

687
00:39:26,910 --> 00:39:30,030
filed this back in October. This
is not something that is new

688
00:39:30,030 --> 00:39:32,400
that has nothing to do with this
at all. This has to do with

689
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:37,050
bigger, really more, you know,
legal ethical concepts that are

690
00:39:37,050 --> 00:39:39,510
out there about life we've
already created and nothing to

691
00:39:39,510 --> 00:39:40,770
do with anything else make a lot
of

692
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,850
us wrong. It's got a lot to do
with something else. Yeah, the

693
00:39:44,850 --> 00:39:48,360
movie. The movie was Sofia
Vergara and then Reese

694
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,030
Witherspoon that's a dog turkey
out there. They're trying to get

695
00:39:51,030 --> 00:39:53,670
some some attention. What it's
about

696
00:39:55,620 --> 00:39:58,410
I didn't know she had a movie
out. Yes. Well,

697
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:02,100
there's that yes, timing. is so
weird. All right, the Op Ed

698
00:40:02,100 --> 00:40:02,670
comes out.

699
00:40:02,700 --> 00:40:05,820
He also wrote an op ed in the
New York Times about this case,

700
00:40:05,820 --> 00:40:08,910
which of course, you know, if I
write an op ed, do you think the

701
00:40:08,910 --> 00:40:12,930
New York Times is going to
publish it? Hmm, no. Right

702
00:40:12,930 --> 00:40:14,940
at the very time that Sophia?
No,

703
00:40:14,970 --> 00:40:19,110
no, no, no, no, they won't even
publish uncle Don's op eds

704
00:40:19,110 --> 00:40:19,650
anymore.

705
00:40:20,190 --> 00:40:23,280
Well, there's reasons for that
as promoting this movie. She's

706
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,190
on the red carpet. She's doing
all that kind of stuff. And then

707
00:40:26,190 --> 00:40:29,970
boom, this comes out. It looks
sort of like a publicity thing.

708
00:40:30,150 --> 00:40:31,050
Sure. You want press?

709
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,870
Sure. Unfortunately, I didn't
even come out with a story to

710
00:40:33,870 --> 00:40:36,630
begin with. It was leaked to the
press. There was comments made

711
00:40:36,870 --> 00:40:39,750
by our team in the press, that I
need to come out and correct the

712
00:40:39,750 --> 00:40:43,500
record. I submitted the op ed to
the new york times a week before

713
00:40:43,500 --> 00:40:46,290
it even went out. I have no
control the New York Times

714
00:40:46,290 --> 00:40:48,690
prints they're off adds any
financial motivation that

715
00:40:48,690 --> 00:40:50,160
because I think people are going
why would

716
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,760
he be doing this asking anything
but the important questions the

717
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:54,210
deal.

718
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,820
Not only do I not have any
financial motivation, I've

719
00:40:56,850 --> 00:41:01,110
offered her to waive all risk
financial responsibilities. I'll

720
00:41:01,110 --> 00:41:03,510
financially pay to raise this
child put it through college. I

721
00:41:03,510 --> 00:41:06,900
mean, I can give these children
a wonderful life. I mean, these

722
00:41:06,900 --> 00:41:09,720
girls will be raised knowing
that they have a father who

723
00:41:09,720 --> 00:41:12,450
fought so hard for them that
they'll know that they love so

724
00:41:12,450 --> 00:41:12,870
much.

725
00:41:14,430 --> 00:41:15,180
As a mother as

726
00:41:18,810 --> 00:41:20,190
we get to doing this

727
00:41:20,190 --> 00:41:23,910
story, well, I just see these
two embryos going daddy were so

728
00:41:23,910 --> 00:41:28,710
cold. Bring us up to live fight
for us. Daddy's like the right

729
00:41:28,710 --> 00:41:31,800
answers. I know what the right
answer is. You didn't. You

730
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,290
didn't do it, which was its
Mother's Day.

731
00:41:36,390 --> 00:41:39,600
Oh, no, that's it. I'll go to
the CNN thing you'll deal here.

732
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:40,050
What it's about

733
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:40,860
is to go out there.

734
00:41:42,060 --> 00:41:45,840
This is for that damn movie.
That's not for the movie. This

735
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:49,920
is for political purposes. It's
very important. Because you

736
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:50,460
already have the

737
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,620
groundwork for something that's
going to have

738
00:41:52,680 --> 00:42:00,960
Yes, yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. This is
about When does life begin? This

739
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,680
is the this is always the big
question the big argument when

740
00:42:05,070 --> 00:42:07,740
we know we have to Hillary
certainly will have to make

741
00:42:07,740 --> 00:42:12,270
Republicans look like a holes
over conception will take

742
00:42:12,390 --> 00:42:15,240
birth control over this guy
sympathetic for these two

743
00:42:15,540 --> 00:42:19,170
embryos which are apparently
from his perspective is when

744
00:42:19,170 --> 00:42:22,890
life began and if something bad
happens to him they blame the

745
00:42:23,310 --> 00:42:27,660
cause of regardless of the as
being a murderer or something I

746
00:42:27,660 --> 00:42:29,790
don't know how this is going to
end up

747
00:42:30,390 --> 00:42:34,230
as strange you don't see this
the what is strange when it when

748
00:42:34,230 --> 00:42:37,050
it comes to Planned Parenthood
when it comes to abortion when

749
00:42:37,050 --> 00:42:41,280
it comes to pro life pro choice.
The question is always at what

750
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,830
point does this matter at what
point

751
00:42:46,230 --> 00:42:48,840
move this like there's like a
I'd say this is a pretty big

752
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:53,610
move all the way. Right to the
to the yes. Very, very

753
00:42:53,610 --> 00:42:57,600
beginning. And that's exactly
what the pro pro lifers Yes.

754
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,230
Promote. Yes, that's why he
calls them girls. That's why he

755
00:43:01,230 --> 00:43:03,540
talks to them as if they're
already human beings.

756
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,300
So you think he's a pro, like a
stooge for the pro life? Oh,

757
00:43:06,300 --> 00:43:08,700
totally. Okay, creating advisors

758
00:43:08,700 --> 00:43:13,920
from CNI just to get started
because connecting any issue to

759
00:43:14,580 --> 00:43:16,200
Hollywood is fantastic.

760
00:43:17,010 --> 00:43:20,430
This is fantastic. Okay, let me
let me back up a little bit and

761
00:43:20,430 --> 00:43:26,790
try to put my brain in the same
gear yours seems to be in which

762
00:43:26,820 --> 00:43:31,470
would go like this you back up
and it's hot this is to promote

763
00:43:31,470 --> 00:43:35,610
the idea that Hollywood in
general are a bunch of douche

764
00:43:35,610 --> 00:43:36,270
bags.

765
00:43:36,510 --> 00:43:40,230
Yes, yes. Yes, this is exactly
right. He's a Republican.

766
00:43:40,259 --> 00:43:44,519
He wants his embryos so he can
replace these these beautiful

767
00:43:44,519 --> 00:43:45,269
girls yes

768
00:43:45,270 --> 00:43:46,770
I want my embryos

769
00:43:47,010 --> 00:43:52,020
to to be you know, have a
wonderful life and Sophia isn't

770
00:43:52,590 --> 00:43:57,240
kollywood Democrat a whole Yes.
Oh, let him do it. So Hollywood

771
00:43:57,270 --> 00:44:01,140
is now associated with a holes
the way we tried to do with a

772
00:44:01,140 --> 00:44:04,740
gun lovers being associated with
Republicans. So we're dealing

773
00:44:04,740 --> 00:44:09,420
with deep psychological
strategies. Listen

774
00:44:09,420 --> 00:44:12,150
to what the guy says in the CNN
interview then you'll agree with

775
00:44:12,150 --> 00:44:14,790
me just listen to how he's
framing the conversation. We

776
00:44:14,790 --> 00:44:15,900
have to go through the process
again

777
00:44:15,900 --> 00:44:20,310
of creating new lives when that
happened to more female

778
00:44:20,550 --> 00:44:23,970
right there. We went to the
process again of creating new

779
00:44:23,970 --> 00:44:27,150
lives and then we had two female
lives that's what he's saying.

780
00:44:27,150 --> 00:44:27,660
Right? Because

781
00:44:27,660 --> 00:44:28,140
the process

782
00:44:28,710 --> 00:44:30,450
the female out of this, but
okay,

783
00:44:30,870 --> 00:44:35,040
creating lives when that
happened. Two more female lives

784
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:36,930
were created again, or saved

785
00:44:36,930 --> 00:44:40,590
or created. We're not sure you
use the term creating lives. Not

786
00:44:40,590 --> 00:44:45,840
every new one. Yeah, embryos,
our lives.

787
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,300
Why do you believe that you've
already created a life?

788
00:44:48,330 --> 00:44:51,480
Well, I've always believed that
life begins at conception. How

789
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:55,890
else would I define what two
embryos are that happened to be

790
00:44:55,890 --> 00:44:59,850
female? I can't say these are
female property. These are these

791
00:44:59,850 --> 00:45:03,060
are the lives and they're on a
journey and a pathway to being

792
00:45:03,060 --> 00:45:06,180
born. Pathway now.

793
00:45:09,690 --> 00:45:13,950
Guys, okay, so American
businessman son of Joseph Loeb,

794
00:45:13,950 --> 00:45:15,810
Jr, the CEO, Scott, Happy

795
00:45:15,810 --> 00:45:18,930
Mother's Day, Sophia, you
heartless bitch. You're not

796
00:45:18,930 --> 00:45:22,140
letting them go on their natural
path to becoming founder

797
00:45:22,140 --> 00:45:25,650
Brown Girl Rhodes and Lehman
family founder of the Lehman

798
00:45:25,650 --> 00:45:29,370
Brothers. Okay, so he's he's,
let me think from his financial

799
00:45:29,370 --> 00:45:32,280
background, he's a Republican. I
would think that would be

800
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:37,890
correct. Yes, yes. And so he's
playing. Yeah, he's playing this

801
00:45:38,670 --> 00:45:42,990
psychological strategy. Yeah,
that's to make the Hollywood

802
00:45:42,990 --> 00:45:45,690
women the actresses and he's a

803
00:45:45,690 --> 00:45:46,980
handsome guy. He's

804
00:45:47,070 --> 00:45:49,770
very good looking guy. Well
spoken. You're pretty good

805
00:45:49,770 --> 00:45:50,130
looking.

806
00:45:50,430 --> 00:45:54,180
And in his op ed, he says, the
second time the surrogate

807
00:45:54,180 --> 00:45:56,760
miscarriage miscarried, I felt
crushed. A year later, we tried

808
00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:00,690
again, creating two more embryos
both female. But as we began to

809
00:46:00,690 --> 00:46:02,340
discuss other potential
surrogates

810
00:46:02,670 --> 00:46:04,530
make this female I don't get
that.

811
00:46:06,390 --> 00:46:09,150
I can only read what the New
York Times prints we're not in

812
00:46:09,150 --> 00:46:12,120
control of when they print or
what they print. A year later,

813
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:15,090
we try it again creating two
more embryos, both female. But

814
00:46:15,090 --> 00:46:17,580
as we began to discuss other
potential surrogates, it became

815
00:46:17,580 --> 00:46:20,520
clear once more that Parenthood
was much less urgent for her

816
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:23,700
than it was for me. We had been
together for over four years as

817
00:46:23,700 --> 00:46:27,600
I was coming on 40 I gave her an
ultimatum. When she refused, we

818
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:33,630
split up, by the way, you're an
asshole. But okay. Then he said

819
00:46:33,630 --> 00:46:36,660
a few months later, I asked her
to let me have the embryos

820
00:46:36,660 --> 00:46:39,510
offering to pay all expenses to
carry our girls to term and

821
00:46:39,510 --> 00:46:46,080
raise them. She wants to keep
them frozen indefinitely. Is

822
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,630
there a new Frozen movie coming
up? That might be a side benefit

823
00:46:48,630 --> 00:46:52,260
to these guys? Could be Yeah,
it'd be some people that are

824
00:46:52,260 --> 00:46:57,420
worth being frozen for. Yeah, so
But this to me was pretty

825
00:46:57,420 --> 00:47:00,030
obvious. Yeah. Do you want to
hear more of the CNN thing? Or

826
00:47:00,030 --> 00:47:00,720
you know, I'm

827
00:47:00,720 --> 00:47:03,630
done. Done with it. I thought I
think you made your point. I

828
00:47:03,630 --> 00:47:05,670
think it's very good. It was
very good, because it was a

829
00:47:05,670 --> 00:47:09,540
triple whammy. You get the
publicity for the movie. You get

830
00:47:09,540 --> 00:47:12,090
the publicity, maybe free
publicity for some other movie.

831
00:47:12,090 --> 00:47:16,020
This guy gets the power and the
Hollywood starlets is heartless

832
00:47:16,020 --> 00:47:19,410
bitches. Yeah. Democrats, of
course, that we're all

833
00:47:19,410 --> 00:47:25,590
Democrats. Of course, by
stereotype by stereotype is

834
00:47:25,620 --> 00:47:27,810
public publicans don't
Republicans in Hollywood don't

835
00:47:27,810 --> 00:47:30,870
speak up in the search
executives and they rarely talk.

836
00:47:31,740 --> 00:47:33,900
And because they always claim
Oh, I'm never gonna get work

837
00:47:33,900 --> 00:47:39,180
again. To always bitching, and
this probably has many

838
00:47:39,180 --> 00:47:42,030
Republicans just like anyplace
else is there are Democrats in

839
00:47:42,060 --> 00:47:46,530
Hollywood, but they never say
anything. Does it ever get work

840
00:47:46,530 --> 00:47:48,150
again? No, no, no.

841
00:47:48,750 --> 00:47:51,690
No. We're gonna see more of
these things. It was just a new

842
00:47:51,690 --> 00:47:53,550
twist. I thought it was
interesting how they slip that

843
00:47:53,550 --> 00:47:57,300
one. Slip that one in. If we
don't I mean, you know, I'm sure

844
00:47:57,300 --> 00:47:59,970
you are not following the
Guardian news.

845
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:01,320
No, no, I'm

846
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,240
not exactly. That's my point.

847
00:48:03,660 --> 00:48:08,790
I think she's something of a
fake. At least I from my

848
00:48:08,790 --> 00:48:12,240
understand that people who are
you know, Mexicans, they said

849
00:48:12,240 --> 00:48:13,680
his accent or hers is bogus.

850
00:48:13,710 --> 00:48:16,740
Oh, oh, really? I didn't know
that. Yeah, a couple of people

851
00:48:16,740 --> 00:48:17,190
said that.

852
00:48:19,350 --> 00:48:21,270
Exaggerate exaggerated bullcrap.
Now.

853
00:48:22,950 --> 00:48:27,840
See, where do you want to go? I
have all kinds of discombobulate

854
00:48:29,190 --> 00:48:31,890
NSA being rebuked finally some
Yes. Yeah, let's

855
00:48:31,890 --> 00:48:33,150
do that. That's good play.
Here's

856
00:48:33,150 --> 00:48:34,950
the intro. You can talk about
it. NSA barrel

857
00:48:34,950 --> 00:48:37,830
appeals court has ruled the
National Security Agency's bulk

858
00:48:37,830 --> 00:48:41,250
collection of millions of
Americans phone records illegal.

859
00:48:41,580 --> 00:48:45,300
The program was exposed by NSA
whistleblower Edward Snowden.

860
00:48:45,450 --> 00:48:49,470
The ACLU filed its lawsuit based
largely on Snowdens revelations

861
00:48:49,590 --> 00:48:52,830
and a unanimous decision
Thursday three judge panel of

862
00:48:52,830 --> 00:48:55,320
the Second Circuit Court of
Appeals in New York hold the

863
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:59,370
bulk phone records collection
unprecedented and unwarranted.

864
00:48:59,670 --> 00:49:03,120
The ruling comes as Congress
faces a June 1 deadline to renew

865
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:06,630
the part of the Patriot Act that
authorizes the NSA is bulk data

866
00:49:06,630 --> 00:49:10,680
surveillance. Another measure
the USA Freedom Act would reform

867
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:12,600
some of the NSA programs.

868
00:49:13,050 --> 00:49:15,750
Yeah, neither one of those if
the free USA Freedom Act is also

869
00:49:15,750 --> 00:49:16,800
not what we want.

870
00:49:17,460 --> 00:49:19,560
That's of course not that's why
we were you can tell by the

871
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:20,250
name. Yeah.

872
00:49:21,210 --> 00:49:24,120
Let's put freedom in the title.
They'll think it really gives

873
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:28,440
them some freedom. Yeah,
exactly. And And again, we have

874
00:49:28,470 --> 00:49:33,570
stories of a clapper explaining
how he really misunderstood the

875
00:49:33,570 --> 00:49:37,710
question. He forgot when he was
asked if there was bulk spying.

876
00:49:37,710 --> 00:49:40,590
And he said no, not not
wittingly. But he thought it was

877
00:49:40,590 --> 00:49:43,980
about section 716. And they
didn't know that question was

878
00:49:43,980 --> 00:49:45,990
going to be asked because of
course all the questions are

879
00:49:45,990 --> 00:49:49,590
always sent over in advance for
these little get togethers on

880
00:49:49,590 --> 00:49:51,750
the hill. So they're bringing
that back and

881
00:49:51,750 --> 00:49:54,300
even when they do that they
still don't swear I'm in

882
00:49:54,930 --> 00:49:55,710
correct.

883
00:49:56,070 --> 00:49:59,220
Now and there was there was
another did I wonder if I save

884
00:49:59,220 --> 00:50:07,560
that article? Yes, Congress once
again, has told the court that

885
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:11,160
it cannot be investigated under
insider trading. This keeps on

886
00:50:11,340 --> 00:50:17,070
cropping up that even after the
President signed the Stock Act

887
00:50:17,130 --> 00:50:20,670
into law, lawyers

888
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:26,460
within the Stock Act just
require filing those papers,

889
00:50:26,460 --> 00:50:28,200
that paperwork that they bury
down in

890
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:30,180
the basement. Yeah, well, you
can only get it if you make a

891
00:50:30,180 --> 00:50:34,620
copy. You have to go to Xerox
copy copy. You can make a xerox

892
00:50:34,620 --> 00:50:35,610
copy. I thought he

893
00:50:35,610 --> 00:50:36,960
had to hand write it out

894
00:50:38,310 --> 00:50:39,030
in Braille.

895
00:50:40,620 --> 00:50:43,410
Lawyers for the House of
Representatives in a brief filed

896
00:50:43,410 --> 00:50:46,080
last summer claimed an SEC
investigation of congressional

897
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:49,260
insider trading needs to be
blocked on principle, because

898
00:50:49,260 --> 00:50:52,410
lawmakers and their staff are
constitutionally protected from

899
00:50:52,410 --> 00:50:54,930
such inquiries given the nature
of their work.

900
00:50:55,109 --> 00:50:59,819
Yeah. Yeah. To Great, it's a
bonanza,

901
00:50:59,850 --> 00:51:03,420
but the SEC should have already
sort of known this and the fact

902
00:51:03,420 --> 00:51:05,340
that they are doing this is
interesting by itself

903
00:51:05,340 --> 00:51:09,180
harassment, of course, it's
harassment. Civic person.

904
00:51:09,240 --> 00:51:12,900
Yeah, we know that they don't
actually do anything real. If we

905
00:51:12,900 --> 00:51:13,230
can figure

906
00:51:13,230 --> 00:51:15,480
out who the target of this was,
we might be on to something

907
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:16,620
else. That might be fun.

908
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:19,020
Well, let's see who screams the
loudest about it right now is

909
00:51:19,020 --> 00:51:23,160
Boehner so that would be that's
who it is. Wait a minute. I've

910
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:27,510
got it here. Brian Sutter, then
a staffer for the House Ways and

911
00:51:27,510 --> 00:51:30,900
Means Committee? Is that one of
banners committees? I don't

912
00:51:30,900 --> 00:51:34,200
think so maybe allegedly passed
along information about an

913
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:37,740
upcoming Medicare decision to a
lobbyist who then share the tip

914
00:51:37,740 --> 00:51:41,190
with other firms, bleeding hedge
funds, use the insider tip to

915
00:51:41,190 --> 00:51:44,400
trade on health insurance stocks
that were affected by the soon

916
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:51,240
to be announced Medicare
decision. Yeah. Yeah. And we can

917
00:51:51,240 --> 00:51:53,400
talk about this now you want to
we talk about

918
00:51:53,700 --> 00:51:57,030
God rousted because Brian
Sutter. Oh, actually, I bet you

919
00:51:57,030 --> 00:52:00,300
got arrested for the cash. Look
at this. Brian Sutter joined the

920
00:52:00,300 --> 00:52:04,740
Capitol Hill Consulting Group in
2015. As Senior Vice President,

921
00:52:04,950 --> 00:52:08,070
okay, now you go. Hey, thanks.
That was good work. Want you to

922
00:52:08,070 --> 00:52:09,780
join the company? Yeah, here's

923
00:52:09,780 --> 00:52:12,420
your pile of money. You're
offered by the red probably went

924
00:52:12,420 --> 00:52:14,430
after him after the fact after
he quit.

925
00:52:14,610 --> 00:52:17,880
But probably the everyone's
afraid because they don't want

926
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,280
any they don't want anyone
messing around in their little

927
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:28,800
muddy waters there. No. So since
it would just touching on health

928
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:34,950
care, there was so after our
conversation about the ICD 10

929
00:52:34,950 --> 00:52:37,470
codes, which is not really
relevant at this at this point,

930
00:52:37,470 --> 00:52:41,790
but it's it's such a huge
industry, pharmaceutical and the

931
00:52:41,790 --> 00:52:47,130
medical, you know, the keep
people sick industry. And

932
00:52:47,130 --> 00:52:49,650
there's one conversation that
one topic that we've been

933
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:53,490
wanting to talk about for a bit,
but I caught this other news

934
00:52:53,490 --> 00:52:56,700
report. And I believe it relates
directly back to some of the

935
00:52:56,700 --> 00:53:00,000
information we've been receiving
via email and a lot from

936
00:53:00,270 --> 00:53:04,320
doctors, surgeons, dudes named
Ben, everyone involved in how

937
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:08,490
the new medical system works.
Apparently, with Medicaid,

938
00:53:08,490 --> 00:53:11,880
certainly, there's a move
towards the bundled payment.

939
00:53:12,660 --> 00:53:19,830
Have you heard about this? No.
So the idea is that the insurer,

940
00:53:19,830 --> 00:53:23,130
whether that is Medicaid or
private insurer would and I

941
00:53:23,130 --> 00:53:28,740
think it's already happening,
actually, instead of going

942
00:53:28,740 --> 00:53:32,190
through every single, you know,
code all the time and be looking

943
00:53:32,190 --> 00:53:34,950
if they are going to reimburse,
etc, for this is

944
00:53:34,950 --> 00:53:39,270
Medicaid, not Medicare or
Obamacare?

945
00:53:42,090 --> 00:53:45,150
I don't I don't have that
answer. I think a big difference

946
00:53:45,150 --> 00:53:46,200
thing is Medicaid.

947
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:49,140
SSI Medicaid is like for people
who are broke,

948
00:53:49,230 --> 00:53:51,510
yes. For people who are broke
correct,

949
00:53:51,630 --> 00:53:54,180
poor pen and they try to give
whatever they also there's also

950
00:53:54,180 --> 00:53:56,430
a scam aspect to where the
government like if you have

951
00:53:56,430 --> 00:53:58,980
property, like say you live in,
you know, a woman living in a

952
00:53:58,980 --> 00:54:02,040
house, and you have to use
Medicaid because you got no

953
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:05,580
insurance, you got no money and
you got a broken hip. They tried

954
00:54:05,580 --> 00:54:08,250
to take your house from you. At
the end of the at the

955
00:54:08,850 --> 00:54:12,660
horse at the end of your life.
At the end of your life, they

956
00:54:12,660 --> 00:54:16,200
tried to take your house away
when we can so the concept here

957
00:54:16,500 --> 00:54:19,920
is the bundle payment instead of
you know, okay, we'll approve

958
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:24,330
50,000 for the cat or for this
or 12,000 for the CAT scan, etc.

959
00:54:24,570 --> 00:54:28,740
They say here is per patient,
here's an X amount of money over

960
00:54:28,740 --> 00:54:31,860
the lifetime of that patient
over if for a year. It's

961
00:54:31,860 --> 00:54:35,940
probably a lifetime. And you
over here you determine how

962
00:54:35,940 --> 00:54:38,100
you're going to dole that out to
somebody.

963
00:54:39,900 --> 00:54:41,550
Well, who's the you in this
story?

964
00:54:41,580 --> 00:54:45,030
The recipient of the money so
who is the hospital or the

965
00:54:45,030 --> 00:54:48,120
doctor or if you're insured?

966
00:54:50,010 --> 00:54:51,660
If you're insured, you don't get
Medicaid?

967
00:54:51,690 --> 00:54:54,510
No. But the insurance the
insurance company is going to do

968
00:54:54,510 --> 00:54:58,620
the same but the to the facility
that okay, a bundled payment

969
00:54:58,620 --> 00:55:02,790
example would be If someone is
going in and they have this

970
00:55:02,790 --> 00:55:10,320
particular thing, you need new
new hips, here is $150,000 for

971
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,560
the person's new hips, no matter
how you do it, if you have them

972
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,320
stay for a week, if they're, you
know, if you kick them out after

973
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:19,740
two days, if you screw it up, it
doesn't matter, everything is

974
00:55:19,740 --> 00:55:22,830
all included. And then you
figured out how you're going to

975
00:55:22,830 --> 00:55:25,950
do that procedure. So yes, it is
actually per these big, I'm

976
00:55:25,950 --> 00:55:28,140
sorry, it is part of the big
procedures, but it's part of the

977
00:55:28,140 --> 00:55:32,430
bundled payment system. And of
course, in summary, if you look

978
00:55:32,430 --> 00:55:35,430
at the cost of the hip, in some,
in some states, in some

979
00:55:35,430 --> 00:55:37,860
hospitals, it could be 50,000,
whereas in others, it could be

980
00:55:37,860 --> 00:55:41,190
150,000. So you're going to see
a lot of movement, a lot of

981
00:55:41,190 --> 00:55:45,270
things, that people having to go
to different places, I guess,

982
00:55:45,270 --> 00:55:49,080
different states to get the same
procedure. But as a part of

983
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:52,650
this, I think we're seeing price
price change as a new price

984
00:55:52,650 --> 00:55:56,010
fixing going on in the market.
And there was a report on

985
00:55:56,010 --> 00:56:00,570
Bloomberg about the prices of
diabetes drugs, which by the way

986
00:56:00,570 --> 00:56:02,940
is now is that rageous just if
you hear what it costs on an

987
00:56:02,940 --> 00:56:07,740
annual basis anyway. But how,
and not even not even saying and

988
00:56:07,740 --> 00:56:12,210
I'll just say price fixing, but
how the prices within a penny,

989
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:15,000
within a few seconds, we'll
change and adjust so that

990
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,940
they're all on parity. So
there's really in the United

991
00:56:17,940 --> 00:56:21,270
States that is only one price
for and a very exorbitant price

992
00:56:21,420 --> 00:56:24,630
for these types of drugs. So
pretty much now you can do

993
00:56:24,630 --> 00:56:28,110
anything you want is I guess my
point, you do anything you want

994
00:56:28,110 --> 00:56:31,140
in the pharmaceutical industry.
There's no one looking over your

995
00:56:31,140 --> 00:56:33,390
shoulder, no one understands how
it works.

996
00:56:33,540 --> 00:56:35,430
And this has changed how

997
00:56:35,550 --> 00:56:38,640
it's Well, I think. But since
the Affordable Care Act, I think

998
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:41,190
it is the way insurance
companies are now allowed to

999
00:56:41,190 --> 00:56:45,600
operate and doing these types of
bundled payments, and seemingly

1000
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:48,180
no oversight. You get stuff like
this

1001
00:56:48,210 --> 00:56:51,420
very interesting. It's very
curious. But we surveyed, we

1002
00:56:51,420 --> 00:56:54,270
survey literally hundreds of big
selling drugs to determine what

1003
00:56:54,270 --> 00:56:56,940
was going on the prices in the
last five years. And we found,

1004
00:56:57,180 --> 00:57:00,750
you know, dozens of them whose
prices have doubled in just five

1005
00:57:00,750 --> 00:57:03,240
years at a time when inflation
was very low. And one of the

1006
00:57:03,240 --> 00:57:06,240
most intriguing things we found
with some of these competing

1007
00:57:06,240 --> 00:57:10,290
drug categories competition seem
to drive the prices up. And in

1008
00:57:10,290 --> 00:57:15,060
fact, as you said, in diabetes
and an insulin market, we saw

1009
00:57:15,090 --> 00:57:18,990
exact price matches for some of
these competing drugs,

1010
00:57:18,990 --> 00:57:23,490
literally, sometimes down to the
decimal points. The next day

1011
00:57:23,490 --> 00:57:26,190
they were the prices rise in
tandem over a period of time,

1012
00:57:26,220 --> 00:57:31,320
all the price increases are
matched. So is this but is this

1013
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:36,420
an antitrust violation? If the
companies are, you know, setting

1014
00:57:36,420 --> 00:57:38,970
the prices independently, even
if they're following each other?

1015
00:57:39,270 --> 00:57:42,180
The expert we spoke to said no,
it's not if they're really

1016
00:57:42,180 --> 00:57:44,280
working independently, but if
they decide that's the best

1017
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:47,430
business strategy, but as long
as it's independent, it may be

1018
00:57:47,430 --> 00:57:50,010
seen as a competitively
unhealthy market. But they're

1019
00:57:50,100 --> 00:57:52,590
not the competitive violator,
not

1020
00:57:52,590 --> 00:57:54,390
colluding together to do.

1021
00:57:55,140 --> 00:57:58,890
Yes. And the interesting thing
about the insulin market is

1022
00:57:58,890 --> 00:58:01,890
there's really only three
companies insulin markers. So

1023
00:58:01,890 --> 00:58:02,760
it's a very slide.

1024
00:58:03,390 --> 00:58:06,540
I think the points been made.
This is nothing new.

1025
00:58:06,570 --> 00:58:09,990
Well, the the only thing that
was on there later was the acid

1026
00:58:09,990 --> 00:58:12,870
is new. It's increased.
Increased incredible, incredible

1027
00:58:12,870 --> 00:58:14,700
amount over the years, years.

1028
00:58:14,730 --> 00:58:17,610
Two years ago, a year ago, we've
been talking about this. Yeah,

1029
00:58:17,670 --> 00:58:20,130
it's not new. This is not new.
They've been gouging, and

1030
00:58:20,130 --> 00:58:22,590
they've been jacking up the
prices. And when Obamacare came

1031
00:58:22,590 --> 00:58:24,840
in, it went up higher. Yeah. And
it's just because they can get

1032
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:26,820
away with it because nobody
cares. There's no oversight. I

1033
00:58:26,820 --> 00:58:29,970
don't see what's new is I'm
sorry, is this show only about

1034
00:58:29,970 --> 00:58:33,720
new? Well, no, you're you're
bringing you're beating a dead

1035
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:37,320
horse with this. No, I think the
interesting. Okay, no offense.

1036
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:37,650
No, no

1037
00:58:37,650 --> 00:58:38,400
offense taken.

1038
00:58:38,850 --> 00:58:42,450
It's not interesting. Like,
okay, we got a new scan kind of

1039
00:58:42,450 --> 00:58:44,940
daunting to see that it is.
That's just the, you know,

1040
00:58:44,940 --> 00:58:47,640
somebody's doling out money.
This hasn't really shaken itself

1041
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:49,800
out. We don't know that this is
a bad thing or good thing. It's

1042
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:53,820
just another thing. And there's
and then drugs or rip off it

1043
00:58:53,820 --> 00:58:55,320
because they're fixed, the
prices are fixed, and the

1044
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:57,990
government is doing nothing
about it. And, and, and this

1045
00:58:57,990 --> 00:59:01,800
way, if you if you hook this
into to Warren, Elizabeth Warren

1046
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:05,520
coming in to fix this, which,
you know, she would probably

1047
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:09,210
complain about it to get votes.
I would be more interested in

1048
00:59:09,210 --> 00:59:11,850
this story, but I don't find
this even remotely interesting.

1049
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:15,900
Okay, I'm sorry to aboard you,
you Well,

1050
00:59:16,500 --> 00:59:19,200
I at least I didn't say Oh,
there's another five minutes of

1051
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:23,370
my life. I'll never get back
because it was 10 minutes. But

1052
00:59:23,370 --> 00:59:30,210
no, that was not your best
effort. Okay. I don't know maybe

1053
00:59:30,210 --> 00:59:31,320
people would disagree.

1054
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:35,970
I'm waiting to see what you got
big boy. Well, you can threaten

1055
00:59:35,970 --> 00:59:39,750
me all you want. But I do have
this and while I have to push

1056
00:59:39,750 --> 00:59:43,740
these off now. I have a
question. How come everybody in

1057
00:59:43,740 --> 00:59:48,360
the world is celebrating V Day
but the United States and if you

1058
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:49,110
noticed this,

1059
00:59:49,140 --> 00:59:50,430
we had a proclamation.

1060
00:59:53,940 --> 00:59:54,780
Well, was it

1061
00:59:55,230 --> 00:59:59,970
that today's VE Day, but it's
not really our celebration? What

1062
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:01,500
I know it's

1063
01:00:01,530 --> 01:00:05,460
we were the ones that was cool
according to our own litany. You

1064
01:00:05,460 --> 01:00:05,610
don't

1065
01:00:05,610 --> 01:00:07,620
want to go spike the football

1066
01:00:09,630 --> 01:00:12,510
but this is not a celebration of
spiking the football play this

1067
01:00:12,510 --> 01:00:15,600
clip WWE two vs. or V day

1068
01:00:19,470 --> 01:00:21,810
wait an hour international
commemorations to mark the

1069
01:00:21,810 --> 01:00:25,470
anniversary were held in Poland
where the Second World War

1070
01:00:25,470 --> 01:00:29,370
started. UN Secretary General
Ban Ki Moon joined the European

1071
01:00:29,370 --> 01:00:31,590
leaders at a ceremony in Gdansk.

1072
01:00:31,830 --> 01:00:35,340
Remembrance services have also
been held in other countries to

1073
01:00:35,340 --> 01:00:38,130
mark the end of the Second World
War.

1074
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:47,640
A moment of reflection in Paris,
French President Francois Olano

1075
01:00:47,700 --> 01:00:52,110
lays a wreath at the Tomb of the
Unknown Soldier and veterans

1076
01:00:52,110 --> 01:00:58,020
honor their fallen comrades. In
the rest of the city, the mood

1077
01:00:58,020 --> 01:01:02,070
is more upbeat. military parades
and music commemorate the French

1078
01:01:02,070 --> 01:01:06,300
Resistance against German
occupation. May 8 is a day of

1079
01:01:06,300 --> 01:01:07,320
celebration here.

1080
01:01:13,170 --> 01:01:16,290
The tone is very different in
Poland. Germany's Eastern

1081
01:01:16,290 --> 01:01:19,860
neighbor in Gdansk a ceremony
took place at the site with a

1082
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:21,030
fire

1083
01:01:21,540 --> 01:01:24,120
John it's just so fucking
riveting. How can you make me

1084
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:24,690
stop

1085
01:01:24,750 --> 01:01:30,240
it? Here's the point. Why do
they the Germans I got to

1086
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:33,540
Salvador chavalla What the
Germans call it the Germany

1087
01:01:33,540 --> 01:01:36,930
capitulation day, and they
celebrate when

1088
01:01:36,930 --> 01:01:38,550
you're a loser lose good.

1089
01:01:39,030 --> 01:01:42,420
But why do we not even we have a
proclamation of Presidents Day

1090
01:01:42,420 --> 01:01:47,700
by the way? What Why is this Why
is everybody all jacked up about

1091
01:01:47,700 --> 01:01:51,270
the end of the war, the Russians
in particular, and the Russians

1092
01:01:51,270 --> 01:01:54,330
are claiming that they won the
war for everybody. And we're

1093
01:01:54,330 --> 01:01:57,030
just like, on the sidelines, it
just well isn't?

1094
01:01:57,060 --> 01:02:00,630
Well, so So you have two things
going on Victory Day, victory of

1095
01:02:00,630 --> 01:02:03,390
Europe Day Victory in Europe
Day, I should say. And then you

1096
01:02:03,390 --> 01:02:08,490
have Soviet victory day. So so
maybe that's why we didn't

1097
01:02:08,490 --> 01:02:12,990
participate. A lot of of our
Russian handlers, emailed all

1098
01:02:12,990 --> 01:02:18,510
kinds of things about that. Now,
the Soviets, they signed the

1099
01:02:18,510 --> 01:02:25,620
German surrender documents on
May eighth in Berlin, by the

1100
01:02:25,620 --> 01:02:29,970
way, I understand it, because of
the time difference. It was

1101
01:02:29,970 --> 01:02:34,740
already may 9, in Moscow. That's
why they celebrate their victory

1102
01:02:34,740 --> 01:02:39,810
day on the ninth of May as well.
But then, by definition, taking

1103
01:02:39,810 --> 01:02:42,960
credit for the surrender of the
Germans.

1104
01:02:43,980 --> 01:02:48,720
Right, they do that. And they
have a kind of an argument as it

1105
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:51,390
because they lost so many people
that they you know, are and

1106
01:02:51,390 --> 01:02:54,930
they're stopped of Germans from
going into Russia. And we were

1107
01:02:54,930 --> 01:02:58,470
just on the sidelines from that,
at least on that front. But it

1108
01:02:58,470 --> 01:03:01,620
just seems to me to be screwy
when you start with you read the

1109
01:03:01,620 --> 01:03:04,560
Manchester book or any of these
things about World War Two and

1110
01:03:04,890 --> 01:03:09,870
the outrageous productivity that
we exhibited, to get into the

1111
01:03:09,870 --> 01:03:14,250
war. And then after the war be
coming because of the you know,

1112
01:03:14,250 --> 01:03:17,460
we're the unscathed victors.
Even though we lost a lot of

1113
01:03:17,460 --> 01:03:22,080
people, the world's policeman,
we don't even acknowledge this,

1114
01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:25,110
it seems to me except from some
presidents or proclamation, I

1115
01:03:25,110 --> 01:03:27,960
guess, somebody showed up to
throw a reef somewhere.

1116
01:03:27,990 --> 01:03:31,620
Well, here's one for you. But
let me just dig into my bag of

1117
01:03:31,620 --> 01:03:35,610
conspiracy tricks. As you know,
World War Two never officially

1118
01:03:35,610 --> 01:03:40,890
ended, John. Yes, we had never
had never had Go ahead. I've

1119
01:03:40,890 --> 01:03:44,040
read the documents. It's real.
World War Two never really

1120
01:03:44,070 --> 01:03:47,670
ended. So for us to go and
celebrate Victory in Europe Day

1121
01:03:47,670 --> 01:03:51,630
and as both the Russians, but
there is something to be said

1122
01:03:51,630 --> 01:03:56,430
for what's going on right now in
Ukraine with US troops and

1123
01:03:56,430 --> 01:04:01,740
Russian troops. And also the
states, the NATO states that are

1124
01:04:01,980 --> 01:04:06,870
Russia facing as witnessed by
and this was overtime and see if

1125
01:04:06,870 --> 01:04:09,300
I can get if see if I can
scratch my way back into your

1126
01:04:09,300 --> 01:04:16,050
favor. This is Kasparov. Of
course, being the Putin hater.

1127
01:04:17,100 --> 01:04:22,170
And I think he plays chess. And
he's on overtime with Bill Maher

1128
01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:27,480
with a bunch of douche bags with
Jane Harman and D G squiggly

1129
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:31,080
whatever his name is. It was a
horrible show to watch. But then

1130
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:35,580
this little thing happened where
Kasparov just ripped everybody.

1131
01:04:35,580 --> 01:04:37,170
I think you've ripped out a good
one you want

1132
01:04:37,170 --> 01:04:39,900
to vaporizing them, we vaporize
them and their entire community.

1133
01:04:40,140 --> 01:04:42,930
Oh, you would agree with what I
was just saying? It's because

1134
01:04:42,930 --> 01:04:48,330
we're there. Yeah. If we weren't
there. No. Should we be there?

1135
01:04:49,020 --> 01:04:50,580
How we're there.

1136
01:04:53,130 --> 01:04:55,020
What's it what is Mar referring
to?

1137
01:04:55,050 --> 01:04:57,780
He's saying I'm sorry, I should
have set that up better. They

1138
01:04:57,780 --> 01:05:00,540
have a quick conversation about
the US being an M Higher he's

1139
01:05:00,540 --> 01:05:03,660
saying we are an empire we have
troops all over the world bases

1140
01:05:03,660 --> 01:05:06,810
all over the world at Harmonix
accepted fact it totally

1141
01:05:06,810 --> 01:05:10,140
accepted. One little difference
though about Germany in

1142
01:05:10,140 --> 01:05:16,140
particular. We don't have an
empire. We don't have an America

1143
01:05:16,140 --> 01:05:20,160
before. We may be true I just

1144
01:05:20,220 --> 01:05:24,000
like 150 Different countries in
the world you crazy. We have

1145
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:26,310
like 760 bases around.

1146
01:05:26,759 --> 01:05:30,329
I love everyone's clapping in
the Obama bot audience. Yes.

1147
01:05:30,419 --> 01:05:35,459
Bases are saying yes. You
recognize where she should

1148
01:05:35,459 --> 01:05:36,899
heels. What are they clapping?

1149
01:05:37,890 --> 01:05:41,610
Clapping that's I think they're
clapping because the

1150
01:05:41,610 --> 01:05:43,320
producer held up a clap sign.

1151
01:05:43,620 --> 01:05:46,140
Whoa, well, yeah, nevermind.

1152
01:05:49,500 --> 01:05:52,140
50,000 troops in Germany, I
think we got hit

1153
01:05:53,610 --> 01:05:57,150
by by 2070. There is no single
American tank.

1154
01:05:57,300 --> 01:06:00,570
This is Kasparov now say? Yeah.
Okay, you got all the true but

1155
01:06:00,570 --> 01:06:02,040
no tanks in Europe.

1156
01:06:02,190 --> 01:06:04,350
And by the way, if you will,
you're praising Obama's, you

1157
01:06:04,350 --> 01:06:08,070
know, peace record. Because of
this week policy. Now, he had no

1158
01:06:08,070 --> 01:06:11,100
choice but to bring American
soldiers the small detachment

1159
01:06:11,100 --> 01:06:14,730
100 Soldiers of 10 tanks at the
Russian border. First time in my

1160
01:06:14,730 --> 01:06:18,210
living memory. American troops
are facing Russian troops in

1161
01:06:18,210 --> 01:06:21,870
Estonia, Latvia, because it's
those small countries or NATO

1162
01:06:21,870 --> 01:06:25,380
members. And by 2013, there were
no American tanks in Europe at

1163
01:06:25,380 --> 01:06:25,620
all.

1164
01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:29,940
Wake me when he takes Poland.
Anyway. I like

1165
01:06:29,940 --> 01:06:34,950
that. That's pretty funny.
Kasparov. He just his head

1166
01:06:34,950 --> 01:06:36,630
whipped around to look at Bill
Maher.

1167
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:39,420
I mean, yes, we

1168
01:06:39,450 --> 01:06:45,000
listen to eight holes in the
audience. Fuck the polls. It was

1169
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:45,390
great.

1170
01:06:48,210 --> 01:06:50,130
I mean, yes, we move to hunt.

1171
01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:55,410
You make jokes about this? Yes.
Obviously. Both suffered from I

1172
01:06:55,410 --> 01:06:55,950
hope no, no.

1173
01:06:56,490 --> 01:07:01,410
Comedy Show Gary. We make jokes
about everything. I have to

1174
01:07:01,410 --> 01:07:06,090
watch out. It's not about the
Holocaust. You made it about the

1175
01:07:06,090 --> 01:07:09,840
Holocaust. But for poles is
tough. For poles. It's Tommy

1176
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:10,500
Lynn support

1177
01:07:10,500 --> 01:07:12,540
him and killed by Russians and
Germans. Gary,

1178
01:07:12,660 --> 01:07:16,710
shut up. This is a stupid thing
to say. I'm sorry. I'm a big fan

1179
01:07:16,710 --> 01:07:20,190
of yours. But to say that I was
making a holocaust joke when I

1180
01:07:20,190 --> 01:07:21,330
said no. Wake me when

1181
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:26,460
I thought it was a Holocaust
joke. Kind of, kind of.

1182
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:31,200
Well, I didn't think it was when
I heard it the first time but in

1183
01:07:31,230 --> 01:07:34,230
hindsight, I could see where
that could be. Yeah, yeah,

1184
01:07:34,290 --> 01:07:34,950
holocaust.

1185
01:07:35,250 --> 01:07:37,920
But what Kasparov is saying
which is really not discussed

1186
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:41,040
here at all is we indeed have
troops now I was looking for the

1187
01:07:41,250 --> 01:07:45,360
name for that I think it's is it
to Operation Atlantic Resolve I

1188
01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:49,740
think it's maybe that's what
it's called maybe and and this

1189
01:07:49,740 --> 01:07:56,310
is the what is casually known as
the train and supply mission.

1190
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:04,170
But they we this is US troops
several 100 on the Ukrainian

1191
01:08:04,170 --> 01:08:05,130
Russian border.

1192
01:08:05,910 --> 01:08:08,220
What about all the troops they
sent into Ukraine to do

1193
01:08:08,220 --> 01:08:08,880
training?

1194
01:08:09,330 --> 01:08:11,460
Well, apparently they're all at
the border. Now. I don't know

1195
01:08:11,460 --> 01:08:12,120
what's going on.

1196
01:08:12,270 --> 01:08:15,780
I think they're still I think
they're in I think they just

1197
01:08:15,780 --> 01:08:19,980
went in there's like 100 or 200
maybe three or 400 Yeah, right

1198
01:08:19,980 --> 01:08:22,440
but the new training and they're
in Ukraine.

1199
01:08:22,470 --> 01:08:25,290
Yeah, but it's training means
you're fighting alongside of

1200
01:08:25,290 --> 01:08:27,270
them and saying hey, watch the
watch. No, no,

1201
01:08:27,269 --> 01:08:28,889
no, please. Oh, please.

1202
01:08:30,330 --> 01:08:33,780
Hey, why I'll show you how to do
it. Follow me. This is how you

1203
01:08:33,810 --> 01:08:36,480
This is how we roll here in
America. That's right.

1204
01:08:36,870 --> 01:08:40,650
Okay, here it is. operate. This
is defense.gov so website

1205
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:45,240
Operation Atlantic Resolve is
demonstrating it continued. It

1206
01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:48,960
says under this subhead is
America's continued commitment

1207
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:52,290
to European security isn't as
NATO's job.

1208
01:08:52,710 --> 01:08:55,320
Yeah. Hello. Who's NATO?

1209
01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:01,200
Isn't NATO a cooperative of a
bunch of these countries?

1210
01:09:01,230 --> 01:09:06,090
Oh, John. Yes, but of course we
it's all our money then

1211
01:09:06,090 --> 01:09:08,640
everybody had to pony up all the
states you remember President

1212
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:12,480
Obama went last year he said
hey, you're not putting in your

1213
01:09:12,480 --> 01:09:16,530
two or 3% of your GDP into
military Hello? Remember Head of

1214
01:09:16,530 --> 01:09:20,430
Sales Barry calling Hello hello
hello come time to pony up yeah

1215
01:09:20,430 --> 01:09:24,210
this is the now we're putting it
to good use. John McCain is

1216
01:09:24,210 --> 01:09:24,840
loving it

1217
01:09:24,870 --> 01:09:28,710
you got to see this you got to
go to this site. It's got these

1218
01:09:28,980 --> 01:09:32,760
recent US military events in New
York with a click pins

1219
01:09:32,790 --> 01:09:35,490
what? Oh, I have no I have it
right here. This is the

1220
01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:36,990
defense.gov website Yeah,

1221
01:09:37,259 --> 01:09:39,989
yeah. And there's pins like if
you click if you put your little

1222
01:09:39,989 --> 01:09:40,409
cursor

1223
01:09:40,410 --> 01:09:43,200
on it kind of cool doesn't let
me get into the Chat Room Air to

1224
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:44,310
Air Refueling

1225
01:09:44,309 --> 01:09:46,829
missions and supportive NATO
that's in the great as in Great

1226
01:09:46,829 --> 01:09:51,689
Britain, you go into looks like
Poland. We have. What are we one

1227
01:09:51,689 --> 01:09:55,409
of the clicks is request for
military assistance. Don't click

1228
01:09:55,529 --> 01:09:59,009
Don't click it. Oh, this is
actually not clicking. Oh,

1229
01:09:59,009 --> 01:10:02,249
that's Ukraine. I see it. Yes
Ukraine and it's also got so

1230
01:10:02,249 --> 01:10:05,369
they got a request they got us
Ukraine bilateral defense

1231
01:10:05,369 --> 01:10:07,709
consultations so it's gonna be
100,000

1232
01:10:07,710 --> 01:10:08,910
meals ready to eat,

1233
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:16,050
train and equip Ukraine's
national guard. Yeah. Nice. Yeah

1234
01:10:16,050 --> 01:10:20,070
this is we're all over the place
but this is real there's one

1235
01:10:20,100 --> 01:10:23,310
exercise platinum Eagle 14 or
all

1236
01:10:24,450 --> 01:10:28,830
that doesn't beat Jade Helm 15
though but what is it? I don't

1237
01:10:28,830 --> 01:10:30,150
see it. I don't see it on this
page and

1238
01:10:30,150 --> 01:10:34,170
Bolgheri I believe this area.
Hmm. And there's a bunch of

1239
01:10:34,170 --> 01:10:38,820
stuff in the ocean. Oh, the
boats are here. Wow. Yeah, they

1240
01:10:38,820 --> 01:10:45,030
are the Taylor says Taylor. The
Donald Cook. Yeah, the truck. I

1241
01:10:45,030 --> 01:10:48,510
don't even know what that is.
The Thruxton the trucks in the

1242
01:10:48,510 --> 01:10:51,600
village gold. They're all in the
Black Sea. Yes. sitting near.

1243
01:10:54,090 --> 01:10:58,350
Where is this terrible.
surrounded? Hello Crimea. How

1244
01:10:58,350 --> 01:11:02,220
you doing over there? Yeah,
yeah,

1245
01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:05,340
I think that's what Kasparov was
trying to say. He's trying to

1246
01:11:05,340 --> 01:11:08,970
say no, it's been a while in my
lifetime there's not even been

1247
01:11:08,970 --> 01:11:12,480
tanks but now you have the
Operation Atlantic Resolve.

1248
01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:17,940
Which by itself sounds pretty
damn scary. I watched Susan

1249
01:11:17,940 --> 01:11:20,670
power for an hour on child
Charlie Rose trying to get a

1250
01:11:20,670 --> 01:11:22,200
clip. Is it possible you

1251
01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:23,580
got my respect back?

1252
01:11:24,570 --> 01:11:26,700
What would Atlantic Resolve that
you

1253
01:11:26,700 --> 01:11:31,050
know that you would put yourself
through I really tried an hour

1254
01:11:31,050 --> 01:11:33,120
an hour Charlie Rose and Susan
Powell.

1255
01:11:33,150 --> 01:11:37,290
And the worst part is Charlie
has his you know his trademark

1256
01:11:37,290 --> 01:11:42,150
white button down shirt on with
the cuffs open. And he is

1257
01:11:42,150 --> 01:11:45,480
sporting a white banded Apple
Watch.

1258
01:11:46,290 --> 01:11:47,190
No,

1259
01:11:47,219 --> 01:11:53,999
it's a not a No, Charlie. Yeah.
Yeah, a white band. What is

1260
01:11:54,059 --> 01:11:58,469
that's got to be product
placement, if anything out and

1261
01:11:58,770 --> 01:12:02,400
white bands. So I'm watching the
Twitch show. And I don't want to

1262
01:12:02,490 --> 01:12:06,720
plug them because it's not our
show. But they were talking

1263
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:09,330
about this watch and all of them
needs to do. Does everyone have

1264
01:12:09,330 --> 01:12:12,450
one of these watches? And
everybody took their right arm

1265
01:12:12,450 --> 01:12:16,500
or their left arm I guess and
held it up with a fist. And it

1266
01:12:16,500 --> 01:12:20,490
was like a straight up. Looks
like a salute. Heil. Watch. Did

1267
01:12:20,490 --> 01:12:24,600
you see this? You're also
holding a fist up. We got to

1268
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:26,130
watch. Apple,

1269
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:27,810
Apple. Apple.

1270
01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:31,590
I thought it was just
disturbing.

1271
01:12:32,610 --> 01:12:37,620
No, I didn't watch and say about
me. I'll Apple high level.

1272
01:12:40,530 --> 01:12:44,370
Looks like if he's got one too.
And in?

1273
01:12:45,269 --> 01:12:50,069
I believe in didn t we just have
I don't have a clip of that. I

1274
01:12:50,069 --> 01:12:55,199
believe there were two
journalists. But not not

1275
01:12:55,199 --> 01:12:58,619
journalists, two people who were
working for an NGO in Ukraine

1276
01:12:58,619 --> 01:13:03,809
were arrested on suspicion of
being spies. Yes, here we go.

1277
01:13:03,899 --> 01:13:09,869
Here we go. Ukraine rebels
released to US AID workers. And

1278
01:13:09,869 --> 01:13:11,729
this gets really good. The two
men are believed to have been

1279
01:13:11,729 --> 01:13:15,899
working for the International
Rescue Committee, NGO in East

1280
01:13:15,899 --> 01:13:20,309
Ukraine. Now, do you think he
can look at one more with me

1281
01:13:20,309 --> 01:13:24,359
just go to rescue.org? I don't
know. Did we ever talk about

1282
01:13:24,359 --> 01:13:28,169
these guys? Did I completely
miss it? Oh, screw me. I pulled

1283
01:13:28,169 --> 01:13:33,809
the form 990 on these guys. Oh,
man. $450 million. They've got

1284
01:13:34,319 --> 01:13:40,409
an income for 2013 alone.
rescue.org Mother's Day rescue

1285
01:13:40,409 --> 01:13:43,559
gifts. But if you look at now
look at the board and overseers

1286
01:13:43,559 --> 01:13:45,929
telling me that's not the kind
of company you want. You want to

1287
01:13:45,929 --> 01:13:50,999
be looking at Tim Geithner Oh,
yeah. is in there. Who else do

1288
01:13:50,999 --> 01:13:55,049
we have? Gordon Smith? David
Miliband?

1289
01:13:55,260 --> 01:13:58,110
Hello. Yeah. David Miliband,
this is his operation. You're

1290
01:13:58,110 --> 01:14:01,140
right. And then Ed Miliband is
brother.

1291
01:14:02,310 --> 01:14:07,890
So I pulled the form 9990. So
okay, so these guys have two

1292
01:14:07,890 --> 01:14:12,000
people who were accused of being
spies in eastern Ukraine. And

1293
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:15,930
they were working for this
organization, which is a cash

1294
01:14:15,930 --> 01:14:21,270
only organization that they they
just do cash in cash out $456

1295
01:14:21,270 --> 01:14:23,010
million in revenue in 2000s.

1296
01:14:23,010 --> 01:14:26,190
I guess in my operation to me,
yes. But

1297
01:14:26,670 --> 01:14:29,520
I made a marked up this
documents. I'll tell you a

1298
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:32,940
little bit about what's going
on. But a lot of money, of

1299
01:14:32,940 --> 01:14:37,860
course, going to the advertising
the hire firm and Roth

1300
01:14:37,860 --> 01:14:41,760
advertising. They got half a
million Accenture got 600. They

1301
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:44,100
got a couple of you know,
everyone's got like five

1302
01:14:44,100 --> 01:14:49,140
$600,000. Here their government
grants. This is the bulk of

1303
01:14:49,140 --> 01:14:56,700
their income is $305 million. So
what's nice about the form 90

1304
01:14:56,730 --> 01:15:00,870
and 990 is you if if someone
donates about five $1,000 as a

1305
01:15:00,870 --> 01:15:03,270
single entity, you have to
report it. But first let's

1306
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:09,210
stop you for a second. Sure. Is
this the same Liv Ullman? That's

1307
01:15:09,210 --> 01:15:14,700
the actress. She's the Vice
Chair International. It's just a

1308
01:15:14,700 --> 01:15:15,210
coincidence. I

1309
01:15:15,210 --> 01:15:18,570
don't know who live Allman is.
Live Allman, the actress? I

1310
01:15:18,570 --> 01:15:21,750
don't know. Oh, I don't know Liv
Tyler.

1311
01:15:23,100 --> 01:15:26,610
When she's in Norwegian actress
and film director, okay, one of

1312
01:15:26,610 --> 01:15:27,450
the muses that,

1313
01:15:28,020 --> 01:15:30,030
oh, maybe you're thinking Tracy
Ullman?

1314
01:15:31,050 --> 01:15:33,390
Well, that's probably why I'm
thinking but live on is the name

1315
01:15:33,390 --> 01:15:34,590
and she is an actress.

1316
01:15:34,740 --> 01:15:38,280
Well, by coincidence, then, and
the famous Well, you gotta keep

1317
01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:39,480
going. I'm sorry. You're looking
at the Board

1318
01:15:39,480 --> 01:15:42,420
of Directors also. So you'd look
at Goldman Sachs healthcare

1319
01:15:42,420 --> 01:15:46,500
group Evercore partners into
abyssea. There's Milliband

1320
01:15:46,500 --> 01:15:51,690
Morgan Stanley says all banks
and advertising BBDO worldwide,

1321
01:15:52,230 --> 01:16:01,770
who will says on here? Anyway,
for this non governmental

1322
01:16:01,770 --> 01:16:07,380
organization quite a lineup,
even. Let's see, well, David

1323
01:16:07,380 --> 01:16:10,770
Miliband takes no money. I guess
he can't but George Rupp, the

1324
01:16:10,770 --> 01:16:12,720
CEO and president for Hyundai.

1325
01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:16,110
Does he still in public office?
And maybe he

1326
01:16:16,110 --> 01:16:20,310
is well, this was 2013 So maybe
you couldn't do with them. But

1327
01:16:20,310 --> 01:16:25,140
the CEO gets 430 million the CFO
300 A million 1000 The CFO

1328
01:16:25,140 --> 01:16:29,310
300,000 You know, everyone's
making out like bandits. And of

1329
01:16:29,310 --> 01:16:33,240
course, I'm expecting to see the
US AI D at the top of the list

1330
01:16:33,750 --> 01:16:41,610
of donors. No, no, no, no, they
are. They are number 430 $6

1331
01:16:41,610 --> 01:16:49,020
million went to this outfit. In
2013, from us AI D. But the

1332
01:16:49,050 --> 01:16:53,820
Office of Foreign Disaster
Assistance, which I'd never

1333
01:16:53,820 --> 01:16:59,460
heard of 39 million, the Bureau
of Population Refugees and

1334
01:16:59,460 --> 01:17:04,440
Migration 59 million. And then
the number one donor was the

1335
01:17:04,440 --> 01:17:07,620
Department for International
Development. This is the British

1336
01:17:07,620 --> 01:17:12,420
version of the US AI d d f ID.
And they came in with $62

1337
01:17:12,420 --> 01:17:19,140
million. Yeah, yeah, I'm sure
those guys were nd and they just

1338
01:17:19,140 --> 01:17:21,960
they were spot. They're obvious.
It's funny because there's

1339
01:17:22,020 --> 01:17:25,290
there's must be 50 pages of
payments, and it just says cash

1340
01:17:25,290 --> 01:17:27,540
assistance. And it says who and
of course where most of the

1341
01:17:27,540 --> 01:17:32,310
money is going to only 80
million really went into Europe.

1342
01:17:32,610 --> 01:17:36,450
And then they have a couple
errant millions for Russia and

1343
01:17:36,450 --> 01:17:39,120
the newly independent states
have nothing for Russia actually

1344
01:17:39,150 --> 01:17:43,830
252,008 that Putin but then the
real money 100 and 70 million

1345
01:17:43,830 --> 01:17:50,820
sub Sahara Africa. South Asia 75
million

1346
01:17:50,910 --> 01:17:54,750
surprise the coop. Clooney is
not on the list. Yes, there's

1347
01:17:54,750 --> 01:17:57,270
some of these people on here. He
has actually this is more like

1348
01:17:57,270 --> 01:17:59,850
it that other organization you
mentioned earlier Yeah. Mike's

1349
01:17:59,850 --> 01:18:03,180
you have any heavy hitters? No,
it's nothing like this. This is

1350
01:18:03,180 --> 01:18:08,310
like ridiculous we have we have
the guy the chairman of Penguin

1351
01:18:08,310 --> 01:18:13,200
Group and executive director of
Pearson, the Common Core are on

1352
01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:17,610
here. Kofi and Nan is our
Madeleine Albright is on this

1353
01:18:17,610 --> 01:18:23,730
list. People eat bugs. William
Bennett and you got Madeline

1354
01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:26,700
This is always the thing that
bothers them. You got William

1355
01:18:26,700 --> 01:18:29,880
Bennett the big Republican who
is also a gambling addict, I

1356
01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:34,290
guess. phony and then Madeleine
Albright in the same group with

1357
01:18:34,290 --> 01:18:39,630
Kofi anon in the drinking club
called the overseers it's just

1358
01:18:39,630 --> 01:18:42,510
like unbelievable. I wonder how
much money they get

1359
01:18:44,040 --> 01:18:46,950
those guys for being on the
board well this is not the board

1360
01:18:46,950 --> 01:18:49,200
this the overseers they may not
get anything that was not

1361
01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:51,660
reported. Let's put it that way.
They've got to get some

1362
01:18:51,690 --> 01:18:55,260
Michael Blumenthal. He's not
getting his wife Betsy.

1363
01:18:55,500 --> 01:18:57,960
If this is the big club man then
you know

1364
01:18:57,990 --> 01:19:04,500
Brokaw? It's a good list isn't
it? A great list

1365
01:19:04,530 --> 01:19:08,370
um none of them have I'm looking
at the directors trustees none

1366
01:19:08,370 --> 01:19:15,480
of them let me see if it's a
seamless No, none no none unless

1367
01:19:15,480 --> 01:19:17,730
it's going here unless someone's
building some other way I don't

1368
01:19:17,730 --> 01:19:18,960
know about that. But

1369
01:19:19,020 --> 01:19:21,240
I think the live almond
connection I think it is the

1370
01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:26,970
actress because she does a lot
of work for the UN. This is some

1371
01:19:26,970 --> 01:19:28,290
scam going on here.

1372
01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:33,090
So anyway, and yes. Intel

1373
01:19:33,480 --> 01:19:36,870
Intel specialist.

1374
01:19:36,900 --> 01:19:39,660
So I'm thinking I'm thinking
these guys.

1375
01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:43,710
As mentioned earlier, Henry
Kissinger. Here you

1376
01:19:43,710 --> 01:19:47,880
go. Once you have Henry on board
is a very good organization is

1377
01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:50,790
very good. Ukrainian not
important.

1378
01:19:52,620 --> 01:19:54,240
Yeah, well, yeah, spies.

1379
01:19:55,500 --> 01:19:59,010
And with that, I'd like to thank
you for your courage and say in

1380
01:19:59,010 --> 01:20:02,010
the morning to you, John. See
where the C stands for

1381
01:20:02,430 --> 01:20:04,350
continuity Dirac

1382
01:20:06,330 --> 01:20:08,550
well in the morning to you Adam
curry in the morning all ships

1383
01:20:08,550 --> 01:20:10,770
to see boots on the ground feet
in the air subs in the water and

1384
01:20:10,770 --> 01:20:11,670
all the dames knights

1385
01:20:11,700 --> 01:20:14,460
in the morning everybody in the
chat room no agenda stream.com

1386
01:20:14,460 --> 01:20:17,610
Good to see you all
participating. Yes blitz Spies

1387
01:20:17,610 --> 01:20:21,510
Like Us in the morning to 20
watt bulb bought us the artwork

1388
01:20:21,510 --> 01:20:27,660
for episode 719 or loved the
state of Texas with the hidden

1389
01:20:27,660 --> 01:20:31,710
guns in the artwork. You
remember that one?

1390
01:20:32,190 --> 01:20:35,400
Yes. 20 watt bulb was good.
Yeah. No agenda, our generator

1391
01:20:35,400 --> 01:20:39,840
dioxide by the way, which we
don't like to use stolen art. I

1392
01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:43,920
mean, it's been done, but it
says to be very derived. And we

1393
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:46,560
always check. So people who
think they're you know, there is

1394
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:51,930
a image search capability that
you can use to look up images

1395
01:20:51,960 --> 01:20:58,200
and we use it to make sure it
looks end with 21 Bob Oh, he's a

1396
01:20:58,200 --> 01:20:58,980
professional. We

1397
01:20:58,980 --> 01:21:01,080
almost always say you know, it's
not stolen.

1398
01:21:01,140 --> 01:21:04,020
We don't worry about so much. So
we check this one we actually

1399
01:21:04,020 --> 01:21:08,250
check we check. And it's like
his because sometimes it's just

1400
01:21:08,250 --> 01:21:11,460
like so slicks and or somebody
has have done this before. The

1401
01:21:11,460 --> 01:21:13,920
best example I don't know. I
don't know if remember was 20

1402
01:21:13,920 --> 01:21:16,470
watt bulb, I'd have to look it
up. But the guy who did the

1403
01:21:16,470 --> 01:21:21,630
skull that was in the shape of
Africa. Oh, yeah. Was like, oh,

1404
01:21:21,660 --> 01:21:24,600
this can't do it. No, we
couldn't find it. It looked and

1405
01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:27,360
looked. And no, this was
original art just for our show.

1406
01:21:28,530 --> 01:21:31,170
I'm surprised but I was stunned
that nobody else had done it.

1407
01:21:31,770 --> 01:21:32,610
Anyway, sorry.

1408
01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:37,230
And no agenda art. generator.com
is where you can find all

1409
01:21:37,230 --> 01:21:40,350
submissions. Of course, we only
really choose one each time it's

1410
01:21:40,470 --> 01:21:44,940
each episode. But you can do a
lot with lots of people print

1411
01:21:44,940 --> 01:21:47,940
them out frame them. It's
beautiful. It's good to look at.

1412
01:21:48,300 --> 01:21:49,380
Yeah, it's inspiring.

1413
01:21:49,889 --> 01:21:52,409
You know, you get a pretty good
sized image you can make us

1414
01:21:52,469 --> 01:21:55,409
think of like a six by six or
something quilt

1415
01:21:55,440 --> 01:21:56,340
you could make a quilt

1416
01:21:56,370 --> 01:21:57,180
quilt

1417
01:21:58,500 --> 01:22:03,270
quilt. The way the program works
is you support the program

1418
01:22:03,300 --> 01:22:06,870
multiple ways to do that.
Certainly financially so we can

1419
01:22:06,870 --> 01:22:11,310
speak freely on any topic we
want anything anyway anyhow. And

1420
01:22:11,310 --> 01:22:13,290
people who come in and support
the program the most of the

1421
01:22:13,290 --> 01:22:15,540
beginning just like Hollywood,
we give you the executive

1422
01:22:15,540 --> 01:22:19,860
producer credits and Associate
Executive producer credits. And

1423
01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:24,870
well a lot of people came in on
the on the associate exec I

1424
01:22:24,870 --> 01:22:28,680
think, actually no, three and
three, three and three. But

1425
01:22:28,680 --> 01:22:29,400
overall,

1426
01:22:29,580 --> 01:22:32,820
but then after that, we got
nothing. I'll tell you right now

1427
01:22:32,850 --> 01:22:36,960
after we got to the 50 from
above 50 and below 200 We had a

1428
01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:41,370
grand total of 15 people out of
a mailing that went the 14,000

1429
01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:44,550
and many times at all what a
funny newsletter. And of course

1430
01:22:45,300 --> 01:22:48,570
well the team people cared
enough about it oh to donate

1431
01:22:52,110 --> 01:22:55,890
this is why you know you do
something creative and you just

1432
01:22:55,890 --> 01:22:58,740
want the resistors exactly this
is this is what you get for it.

1433
01:22:59,190 --> 01:23:02,580
Yeah there's the thank you sir
for bye bye. We did get the week

1434
01:23:02,580 --> 01:23:05,220
hit do have some people
seriously thanks Sir Frank as

1435
01:23:05,220 --> 01:23:09,150
John Stott and Victoria,
Australia came with foreigner

1436
01:23:09,150 --> 01:23:11,610
dollars and 79 cents. Hello,
John and Adam definitely time

1437
01:23:11,610 --> 01:23:14,250
for another meaningful financial
contribution seeing it's also my

1438
01:23:14,250 --> 01:23:17,340
birthday today. Seventh of May
seemed like the right time to

1439
01:23:17,340 --> 01:23:21,390
donate. In addition to my 1111
regular monthly contribution, I

1440
01:23:21,390 --> 01:23:27,090
decided to donate my birthdate
of seven may 62 being 7562 times

1441
01:23:27,090 --> 01:23:30,930
the number of decades of
birthdays so far being 5.3 53

1442
01:23:30,930 --> 01:23:35,430
years old. Somehow that works
out to $400.79 I don't know how

1443
01:23:35,760 --> 01:23:39,900
I'm good. Just some great karma
from you both would be good as

1444
01:23:39,900 --> 01:23:42,720
well as a Hillary what
difference does it make, which

1445
01:23:42,720 --> 01:23:47,430
is a bit like birthdays these
days? And a Boom shakalaka

1446
01:23:47,430 --> 01:23:50,460
finish with the Australian
Federal Budget happening next

1447
01:23:50,460 --> 01:23:53,970
week. I'd rather you get my
money because there's definite

1448
01:23:53,970 --> 01:23:57,300
value rather than the government
getting the money. Thank you. Or

1449
01:23:57,300 --> 01:24:00,750
keep up the great work Kind
regards, Sir Frank. Baron of

1450
01:24:00,750 --> 01:24:05,490
Stonington. Arm Dale Australia.
Yeah, difference at this point.

1451
01:24:05,520 --> 01:24:14,790
Does it make sense? Karma.
Christian, Kristen Kinderman in

1452
01:24:14,790 --> 01:24:18,630
Walnut Creek, California 333 33.
And that's just up the street

1453
01:24:18,630 --> 01:24:21,210
from me. Hi, John. And Adam,
please find a donation for my

1454
01:24:21,210 --> 01:24:25,020
husband, Chris Kinderman. His
birthday is Sunday, May 10. Is

1455
01:24:25,020 --> 01:24:31,200
he on the list? How can you put
them on your bday list? The

1456
01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:34,890
donation which is is actually
not on the list? I'm looking

1457
01:24:35,070 --> 01:24:36,780
Yeah, he's in yellow. He has to
be

1458
01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:39,870
often starts on the list. Yeah.
And Chris Yeah.

1459
01:24:40,380 --> 01:24:44,400
Oh, okay. It was not Chris. It
should be Chris. It's Chris.

1460
01:24:44,670 --> 01:24:47,460
Yeah. Chris with the see. We
recently purchased our

1461
01:24:47,460 --> 01:24:51,870
retirement home in Carmel.
Although we are a long way off

1462
01:24:51,870 --> 01:24:55,260
from retiring it makes us very
happy. And you please make him

1463
01:24:55,290 --> 01:24:58,980
night Chris of Carmel by the
sea. I guess his numbers came

1464
01:24:58,980 --> 01:25:03,150
in. Okay. Thanks. For all you do
Kristen accounting something

1465
01:25:03,150 --> 01:25:08,370
made by me for his birthday
three to a bunch of numbers job

1466
01:25:08,370 --> 01:25:13,380
karma worked by the way and now
this one make this one's to

1467
01:25:13,380 --> 01:25:15,930
midnight status she doesn't ask
for karma but give her some yeah

1468
01:25:15,930 --> 01:25:16,140
I'll do

1469
01:25:16,140 --> 01:25:18,330
the jobs karma just can never
hurt

1470
01:25:18,330 --> 01:25:26,130
jobs jobs jobs and jobs let's go
with her job karma

1471
01:25:28,770 --> 01:25:31,980
the gene that Julia sir gene had
to leave this Texas Sheriff

1472
01:25:32,070 --> 01:25:36,180
that's right Baron of Texas
shared the merit Baron the Texas

1473
01:25:36,180 --> 01:25:38,250
of shared of Marriott he's
important

1474
01:25:38,580 --> 01:25:44,670
333 Austin, Texas. Yeah,
calling. I don't know who this

1475
01:25:44,670 --> 01:25:50,490
is pirate pirate Filter Filter
here. Okay, so it's Peter. Yes.

1476
01:25:50,730 --> 01:25:56,580
As a douchebag spelled with an S
Yeah, well and wishing his wife

1477
01:25:57,030 --> 01:26:01,260
Oksana a very happy birthday
these are the hits younger every

1478
01:26:01,260 --> 01:26:03,600
year wink wink these nudge Nice.

1479
01:26:04,020 --> 01:26:06,480
These are the handlers John I
told you about them.

1480
01:26:07,200 --> 01:26:08,880
Yeah excited she's the good
looking one.

1481
01:26:09,090 --> 01:26:11,940
Yeah. Oh Peters good look into
but not as interesting as

1482
01:26:11,940 --> 01:26:14,160
Oksana. Huh? Yeah,

1483
01:26:14,550 --> 01:26:17,520
yeah, you got Russians in Texas.
I just find that fascinating.

1484
01:26:17,580 --> 01:26:18,600
I'm gonna give her a little
karma.

1485
01:26:20,190 --> 01:26:21,870
You've got karma.

1486
01:26:23,130 --> 01:26:26,940
Moving on to Associate Executive
Producers Sir Brian Ferguson of

1487
01:26:27,420 --> 01:26:31,110
Foothill Ranch California. $250.
When I saw the newsletter, I was

1488
01:26:31,110 --> 01:26:34,320
appalled. Driving home Friday, I
heard an interview with a

1489
01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:39,150
cricket rancher on KFR radio.
That was all I needed to hear.

1490
01:26:39,480 --> 01:26:43,080
To hear on the subject. I did an
accounting and this donation

1491
01:26:43,080 --> 01:26:46,440
takes me one level pass Baron
whatever that's called. Give me

1492
01:26:46,440 --> 01:26:52,530
a reverend Manning and something
Sharpton Sharpton given them

1493
01:26:52,530 --> 01:26:55,470
much much resist much

1494
01:26:55,860 --> 01:26:58,470
there's a new jingle I want to
play. Do we have a douchebag

1495
01:26:58,470 --> 01:27:02,280
check on on the show. Douche bag
check out no one's doing

1496
01:27:02,280 --> 01:27:03,360
douchebag checks I'll do

1497
01:27:03,810 --> 01:27:04,920
it didn't catch on

1498
01:27:16,770 --> 01:27:24,930
resist we must. We must and we
will much about that. Be

1499
01:27:24,930 --> 01:27:25,950
committed you

1500
01:27:25,980 --> 01:27:27,270
got karma.

1501
01:27:29,100 --> 01:27:30,090
Love the rev

1502
01:27:30,330 --> 01:27:34,410
that is just too good love the
res too delicious to be true.

1503
01:27:35,280 --> 01:27:40,140
Love the Rev. Tiny Prague's in
Sydney New South Wales

1504
01:27:40,200 --> 01:27:45,900
Australia. $250. And he writes
flying from floor of tiny Soumya

1505
01:27:45,900 --> 01:27:52,470
sky flying from gate 33 on an A
330 to many 33 is for me not to

1506
01:27:52,470 --> 01:27:54,120
send money but I give him some
karma.

1507
01:27:54,150 --> 01:27:58,170
Yeah, I'm gonna give him a
little of this to imagine

1508
01:28:00,420 --> 01:28:02,160
you've got Carmine. Oh,

1509
01:28:02,160 --> 01:28:02,790
yeah, careful.

1510
01:28:04,020 --> 01:28:07,140
And then we have Sir David.
David Roberts from Norristown,

1511
01:28:07,140 --> 01:28:10,800
Pennsylvania 234561 of my
favorite numbers, and he just

1512
01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:16,380
says night of the yellow rose.
Why does my pee smell funny? The

1513
01:28:16,380 --> 01:28:19,650
asparagus? Yeah, you beat me to
it.

1514
01:28:19,950 --> 01:28:21,360
I'm sorry. No, that's

1515
01:28:21,360 --> 01:28:23,940
okay. You beat me too and it's
just the way it is. Yeah.

1516
01:28:24,090 --> 01:28:25,230
Asparagus you still

1517
01:28:25,230 --> 01:28:27,030
laughing about night of the
yellow rose

1518
01:28:29,940 --> 01:28:32,160
Yeah, we've all spent the night
at the yellow rose here's some

1519
01:28:32,160 --> 01:28:36,300
karma for you well deserved
you've got karma

1520
01:28:38,220 --> 01:28:40,230
he gets a knighthood night of
the yellow rose. Wanna?

1521
01:28:40,230 --> 01:28:43,680
Yes, yes, yes. Yes. Yes. Yes, of
course. Absolutely.

1522
01:28:43,860 --> 01:28:48,270
Why does this piece smell funny?
Baby that's concludes our little

1523
01:28:48,270 --> 01:28:51,330
donation executive producer,
Associate Executive Producer

1524
01:28:51,480 --> 01:28:54,120
segment of the show. I want to
thank these folks that remind

1525
01:28:54,120 --> 01:28:57,450
you that we do have a show
coming up on Thursday and that

1526
01:28:57,450 --> 01:29:03,180
will be divorced.org/na to kind
of help.org/n

1527
01:29:03,240 --> 01:29:05,580
A and of course in those days
you know it doesn't take that

1528
01:29:05,580 --> 01:29:09,060
long to send Pay Pal propagate
the formula. Our formula

1529
01:29:09,060 --> 01:29:13,020
is this we go out we get people
in the mouth

1530
01:29:20,220 --> 01:29:20,940
a citizen

1531
01:29:26,280 --> 01:29:34,170
Yes. All right. I'm just looking
there's something in here that

1532
01:29:34,170 --> 01:29:37,470
was in this list of reads that
was wanting me to go look

1533
01:29:37,470 --> 01:29:38,430
something up.

1534
01:29:38,850 --> 01:29:40,200
While you're doing that.

1535
01:29:40,230 --> 01:29:42,630
I don't know what it is. That's
the problem. I lost track. I

1536
01:29:43,530 --> 01:29:44,640
didn't write it down. Let's

1537
01:29:47,640 --> 01:29:49,830
I'm worried to do anything. Now.
I'm so worried. I'm going to

1538
01:29:49,830 --> 01:29:56,430
bore you. I don't know. Oh, get
off. A day where I don't make

1539
01:29:56,430 --> 01:29:58,110
you laugh. It's just not a good
show.

1540
01:29:58,230 --> 01:30:01,410
Here's state to permanent
Clinton. Did you see this? Yeah,

1541
01:30:01,410 --> 01:30:01,440
I

1542
01:30:01,440 --> 01:30:04,110
did about the about them not
doing something or anything.

1543
01:30:04,140 --> 01:30:04,830
Yeah, this,

1544
01:30:04,860 --> 01:30:09,270
this is done. It's boring. But
they get a little idea of what's

1545
01:30:09,270 --> 01:30:11,730
going on. It's no good without
the women, they got this

1546
01:30:11,730 --> 01:30:13,230
douchebag character. Yeah.

1547
01:30:13,230 --> 01:30:17,130
And Matt had does not have any
kind of rapport with him.

1548
01:30:17,310 --> 01:30:20,880
No none at all. In fact, it
seems a little cowed by the guy.

1549
01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:24,150
To be clear. Coming back to
something that has come up

1550
01:30:24,150 --> 01:30:27,600
earlier this week. We aren't
aware of any actions taken by

1551
01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:30,990
Secretary Clinton that were
influenced by donations to the

1552
01:30:30,990 --> 01:30:34,110
Clinton Foundation or its
offshoots, or by speech

1553
01:30:34,140 --> 01:30:37,770
honoraria and consultancies a
former President Clinton.

1554
01:30:39,030 --> 01:30:44,040
Okay, but why not? I mean, why
do you not?

1555
01:30:44,070 --> 01:30:46,200
Again, we aren't aware of any
actions.

1556
01:30:46,830 --> 01:30:49,380
You're not aware, because you
haven't looked into them? Right?

1557
01:30:49,710 --> 01:30:53,100
Well, but again, let's let's go
back to what what we did do

1558
01:30:53,100 --> 01:30:55,590
during her tenure, over the
course of her tenure, we

1559
01:30:55,590 --> 01:30:59,910
reviewed dozens of entities each
year. The Clinton Foundation

1560
01:30:59,910 --> 01:31:03,360
also is a charitable
organization. So we would not

1561
01:31:03,360 --> 01:31:06,840
have had the obligation to
review their donation beyond

1562
01:31:06,840 --> 01:31:08,310
what was committed to in the
MOU.

1563
01:31:08,429 --> 01:31:12,779
Right. But But what they
committed to in the MOU in terms

1564
01:31:12,779 --> 01:31:18,209
of the listing the private
donors, whether or not the State

1565
01:31:18,209 --> 01:31:21,839
Department had to review them,
or was supposed to review them

1566
01:31:21,839 --> 01:31:26,219
beforehand to see if they were
okay or not. It would seem to me

1567
01:31:26,219 --> 01:31:29,879
to make sense that if they
didn't live up to their end of

1568
01:31:29,879 --> 01:31:32,999
the MOU, you would at least go
back and take a look at the

1569
01:31:32,999 --> 01:31:36,689
private donations and see
whether that might raise any

1570
01:31:36,689 --> 01:31:37,319
questions

1571
01:31:39,150 --> 01:31:43,020
goes on back and forth. It's
almost like a circle. He'd say,

1572
01:31:43,020 --> 01:31:45,510
Oh, we do. We didn't do that.
And well, you didn't do that,

1573
01:31:45,510 --> 01:31:47,400
because you didn't want to do
that. And they went back and

1574
01:31:47,400 --> 01:31:50,610
this went on for about 1015
minutes, these two guys had

1575
01:31:50,610 --> 01:31:53,640
gotten nowhere, of course. And
then Matt couldn't, couldn't

1576
01:31:53,640 --> 01:31:55,920
keep his asking the same
questions over again now.

1577
01:31:56,010 --> 01:32:00,030
And the only real takeaway I got
from this whole exchange was

1578
01:32:00,030 --> 01:32:04,350
maybe 10 minutes, he just kept
on going and going. There is an

1579
01:32:04,350 --> 01:32:04,920
anon band

1580
01:32:04,920 --> 01:32:09,660
by the way, they also they the
guy pulled it from Matt, at some

1581
01:32:09,660 --> 01:32:12,870
point went to another guy who
continued asking the same

1582
01:32:12,870 --> 01:32:16,200
questions. And Matt came back
into it. That's how it went on

1583
01:32:16,200 --> 01:32:20,970
for you. Right at least 10
minutes, maybe more, right? The

1584
01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:22,110
protecting the Hillary?

1585
01:32:22,140 --> 01:32:25,530
Well, the new entity that we're
not or there's not being

1586
01:32:25,530 --> 01:32:30,720
discussed is the Clinton Health
Alliance, Alliance initiative,

1587
01:32:30,750 --> 01:32:37,440
this Chai ch AI. And this is a
black box. It's a it's a sister

1588
01:32:37,440 --> 01:32:40,920
or daughter organization. But
there's no filings on it. And

1589
01:32:41,070 --> 01:32:44,220
it's all neatly wrapped up in
this little ball. They got the

1590
01:32:44,220 --> 01:32:46,980
Canadian thing. They got the
Clinton Health Alliance

1591
01:32:46,980 --> 01:32:49,230
initiative, you can only imagine
what kind of money is flowing

1592
01:32:49,230 --> 01:32:51,720
into that, but there's no record
of it. But

1593
01:32:52,110 --> 01:32:55,890
at this point, really, what
there is doesn't mean anything,

1594
01:32:55,890 --> 01:32:58,920
it's no one hears this, no one
gives a shit. We've been saying

1595
01:32:58,920 --> 01:33:02,760
this is the problem for years.
We're in 2008. We were the first

1596
01:33:02,760 --> 01:33:04,920
time she ran, we'd said this.
This is the real problem. No one

1597
01:33:04,920 --> 01:33:05,520
cares.

1598
01:33:07,260 --> 01:33:12,510
Yeah, it's a conduit for bribes.
Yeah. And it's a beauty. Yeah,

1599
01:33:12,510 --> 01:33:16,710
it really is quite good. Oh, no.
And also because there's

1600
01:33:16,710 --> 01:33:20,370
charitable organization. This
reminds me of the way the Yakuza

1601
01:33:20,370 --> 01:33:27,930
work in the Yakuza than the
Japanese mob. They have a little

1602
01:33:27,930 --> 01:33:30,660
Gambit that they play they were
going to try to do in the United

1603
01:33:30,660 --> 01:33:34,710
States. They tried to buy the
Pebble Beach Golf Course. But

1604
01:33:34,710 --> 01:33:37,890
the locals got irked about this.
And the first thing that we're

1605
01:33:37,890 --> 01:33:41,520
going to do is what they do is
they change the course fees to

1606
01:33:41,520 --> 01:33:43,890
something outrageous. And then
you have to be a member, it's

1607
01:33:43,890 --> 01:33:47,310
cost $10,000. So the idea is you
buy a golf course this is they

1608
01:33:47,310 --> 01:33:52,260
do this in Japan, you buy a golf
course, you have outrageous like

1609
01:33:52,290 --> 01:33:57,300
you know, 10,000 a year is
minimum, sometimes it's 100,000.

1610
01:33:58,200 --> 01:34:01,830
Could be anything. It's
ridiculous. And the idea is as a

1611
01:34:01,830 --> 01:34:06,000
distort if you're being extorted
by the Yakuza. The way you pay

1612
01:34:06,000 --> 01:34:09,960
your bill to them is not by
giving them money, you have to

1613
01:34:09,960 --> 01:34:12,600
take a membership out in one of
these golf places

1614
01:34:12,600 --> 01:34:14,910
that they over a million a year.
Yeah.

1615
01:34:15,630 --> 01:34:17,670
And they were trying to pull
that they're trying to bring

1616
01:34:17,670 --> 01:34:21,240
that idea here the United States
by buying Pebble Beach and you

1617
01:34:21,240 --> 01:34:25,530
already talked about the raising
the fees. It was only just, you

1618
01:34:25,530 --> 01:34:29,190
know, the to extort money. And
there's no reason to believe

1619
01:34:29,190 --> 01:34:31,230
that the Clintons haven't
stumbled onto something very

1620
01:34:31,230 --> 01:34:35,100
similar with this screwball
operation they have seems like a

1621
01:34:35,100 --> 01:34:38,430
good way to extort. Oh, you
know, if you give some money to

1622
01:34:38,430 --> 01:34:42,060
our charity, there's no reason
for the Saudis they get their

1623
01:34:42,060 --> 01:34:44,040
own charities. Why are they
given him money?

1624
01:34:44,760 --> 01:34:48,240
But the whole at the end of the
year, John at the end of my

1625
01:34:48,240 --> 01:34:53,220
life, this is no one cares. I
don't just absolutely nobody

1626
01:34:53,220 --> 01:34:56,730
cares. Everybody's already all
fine. All in all Okay, with that

1627
01:34:56,730 --> 01:34:59,130
being Hillary, well, she's not
the best you know, but she's the

1628
01:34:59,130 --> 01:35:02,190
one we need. He deserves it. She
deserves it. That's right. She

1629
01:35:02,190 --> 01:35:06,450
deserves it. Well, I still I
pray still every single night.

1630
01:35:08,670 --> 01:35:12,960
Yes. Let's do it. Let's take a
look at.

1631
01:35:13,709 --> 01:35:15,119
Oh, I got it the breaking news.

1632
01:35:16,079 --> 01:35:18,539
What kind of news real news or
no?

1633
01:35:19,469 --> 01:35:22,319
Breaking news. Breaking news
breaking news

1634
01:35:22,529 --> 01:35:26,939
play the clip threat levels up.
Yeah,

1635
01:35:27,000 --> 01:35:31,260
the threat level has been raised
at US military bases nationwide.

1636
01:35:31,470 --> 01:35:34,860
That puts security at its
highest level in nearly four

1637
01:35:34,860 --> 01:35:37,860
years. Pentagon officials say
there has been no specific

1638
01:35:37,860 --> 01:35:41,280
threat. Instead, they cite
general concerns since last

1639
01:35:41,280 --> 01:35:46,020
weekend's attack on an exhibit
and contest of Mohammed cartoons

1640
01:35:46,020 --> 01:35:46,890
in Texas.

1641
01:35:46,920 --> 01:35:50,910
Okay. All right, since all
right, cause the threat levels

1642
01:35:50,970 --> 01:35:51,600
go up.

1643
01:35:51,930 --> 01:35:54,120
I thought we didn't do those
anymore. The threat levels. I

1644
01:35:54,120 --> 01:35:57,300
thought that was done. Well,
let's talk about this for a

1645
01:35:57,300 --> 01:36:01,230
moment. I caught another fine
piece on MSNBC. And by the way,

1646
01:36:01,260 --> 01:36:03,540
I'm the only person catching it
because no one else really

1647
01:36:03,540 --> 01:36:06,750
watches it. But still, it's
important because this is how

1648
01:36:07,140 --> 01:36:11,580
memes get started, which we'll
get to in a moment. This is they

1649
01:36:11,580 --> 01:36:14,520
have a terrorism expert. And
remember now we're looking at I

1650
01:36:14,520 --> 01:36:17,070
have some more information on
this. We're looking at how

1651
01:36:18,450 --> 01:36:22,980
freedom of speech, possibly or
probably will be curtailed in

1652
01:36:22,980 --> 01:36:25,590
these United States of Gitmo
nation where we still have some

1653
01:36:25,590 --> 01:36:28,680
of it forget you guys in EU, if
you're interested, I'll tell you

1654
01:36:30,720 --> 01:36:35,160
by saying holding a cartoon
contest is provocation and

1655
01:36:35,160 --> 01:36:41,310
therefore is not protected. Free
speech. And I have I think

1656
01:36:41,310 --> 01:36:45,900
somewhere I have a you know the
example of yelling fire in a

1657
01:36:45,900 --> 01:36:49,710
crowded theater. That actually
that never happened. No one was

1658
01:36:49,740 --> 01:36:52,410
there's no example of that
happening. It was only used as

1659
01:36:52,410 --> 01:36:55,800
an example in will play this
clip, and then I'll look for

1660
01:36:55,800 --> 01:37:00,000
this. Look for the fire in a
crowded theater thing. But this

1661
01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:02,430
isn't a fence that it's going
towards and you'll hear this

1662
01:37:02,460 --> 01:37:07,440
terrorism expert. I don't know
his name is comparing these

1663
01:37:07,440 --> 01:37:09,150
people to some very evil beings.
It's

1664
01:37:09,150 --> 01:37:12,720
not the first time that someone
a homegrown extremist has looked

1665
01:37:12,720 --> 01:37:15,930
to target someone like Geller
for exactly this reason. And I

1666
01:37:15,930 --> 01:37:19,110
would say together, look, you
have the right to do this. But

1667
01:37:19,110 --> 01:37:22,110
you also have a responsibility.
Freedom of speech is a very

1668
01:37:22,110 --> 01:37:25,260
serious, right and it comes with
a responsibility. You have a

1669
01:37:25,260 --> 01:37:28,830
responsibility to act in a way
that is restrained, according to

1670
01:37:28,830 --> 01:37:33,300
fact, and simply yelling at
someone and saying terribly

1671
01:37:33,300 --> 01:37:37,260
nasty things that someone look
and then to complain about the

1672
01:37:37,260 --> 01:37:40,470
fact that someone reacts
violently to that, to me, that's

1673
01:37:40,470 --> 01:37:43,470
like lighting the Reichstag on
fire, and then complaining that

1674
01:37:43,470 --> 01:37:47,790
your fingers got singed, you
cannot infringe upon someone

1675
01:37:47,790 --> 01:37:48,510
else. I'm sorry.

1676
01:37:49,110 --> 01:37:49,470
Oh, it's

1677
01:37:49,470 --> 01:37:54,510
not as though that that analogy
just that an analogy. Did his

1678
01:37:54,510 --> 01:37:55,920
bowl crack? Yeah.

1679
01:37:57,000 --> 01:37:59,460
Yes. Yes, it gets word upon

1680
01:37:59,460 --> 01:38:02,730
someone else's freedom of
expression. You cannot infringe

1681
01:38:02,730 --> 01:38:06,000
upon someone else's freedom of
speech, and then claim that as

1682
01:38:06,000 --> 01:38:08,670
you who is the victim, it does
not work that way.

1683
01:38:09,870 --> 01:38:12,720
Wait a minute. He's He's very
interesting. What do you mean?

1684
01:38:12,720 --> 01:38:13,350
Yeah,

1685
01:38:13,380 --> 01:38:18,420
he's Coleman, Koh, L M A N N.
He's saying that the drawing a

1686
01:38:18,420 --> 01:38:23,130
cartoon is infringing on someone
else's free speech. I don't see

1687
01:38:23,130 --> 01:38:27,120
how that works. I don't see how
that works. And turning into

1688
01:38:27,120 --> 01:38:30,000
Kristallnacht for the Reichstag
is very interesting.

1689
01:38:30,510 --> 01:38:33,930
You cannot infringe upon someone
else's freedom of speech, and

1690
01:38:33,930 --> 01:38:36,990
then claim that as you who is
the victim, it does not work

1691
01:38:36,990 --> 01:38:40,170
that way. No one has the right
to commit acts of violence in

1692
01:38:40,170 --> 01:38:43,320
the name of faith. No one has
the right to commit acts of

1693
01:38:43,320 --> 01:38:46,770
violence because someone says
something offensive. But people

1694
01:38:46,770 --> 01:38:49,260
that exercise the freedom of
speech, also have a

1695
01:38:49,260 --> 01:38:53,010
responsibility to understand
that words have meaning and that

1696
01:38:53,040 --> 01:38:56,520
they can cause harm. And that's
why we have oh,

1697
01:38:58,260 --> 01:39:01,320
no Sticks and stones may break
my bones.

1698
01:39:02,100 --> 01:39:07,140
But words can cause harm. This
is I find this very interesting

1699
01:39:07,170 --> 01:39:10,920
that this and whoever the host
is just agreeing. Yeah, yeah.

1700
01:39:10,950 --> 01:39:12,450
Yeah, that's right, these hosts.

1701
01:39:13,410 --> 01:39:16,380
And that's why we have libel
laws. That's why we have

1702
01:39:16,380 --> 01:39:20,190
defamation laws. And that's why
we have hate crime law. Oh, and

1703
01:39:20,190 --> 01:39:23,670
I would suggest that what Pamela
Geller is doing comes in some

1704
01:39:23,670 --> 01:39:27,750
cases quite close to what is
normally defined as a hate

1705
01:39:27,750 --> 01:39:28,230
crime.

1706
01:39:28,680 --> 01:39:35,580
Wow, hold on a sec. Do you make
this leap of faith? You got

1707
01:39:35,580 --> 01:39:40,950
libel laws? And you have hate
crime laws. Let's assume that

1708
01:39:40,950 --> 01:39:45,780
these are fine, even though we
have our doubts. What's that got

1709
01:39:45,780 --> 01:39:48,120
to do with having an exhibition
of cartoons?

1710
01:39:49,410 --> 01:39:52,230
It's a hate crime. That's what
he's saying. He says it comes

1711
01:39:52,230 --> 01:39:56,010
near very near to a hate crime.
How's that? I don't know this.

1712
01:39:56,010 --> 01:40:01,380
He's the expert. I don't know.
But it's is getting closer to

1713
01:40:01,410 --> 01:40:07,380
the you know, the last time we
looked at something from 1942,

1714
01:40:07,620 --> 01:40:10,260
the shouting fire in a crowded
theater. This is where they're

1715
01:40:10,260 --> 01:40:14,670
driving towards they're trying
to position the First Amendment

1716
01:40:14,670 --> 01:40:17,280
which I would like to write and
remind everybody. The First

1717
01:40:17,280 --> 01:40:20,160
Amendment does not give anybody
any rights, you already have the

1718
01:40:20,160 --> 01:40:24,360
right to free speech, the first
amendment for forbids the

1719
01:40:24,390 --> 01:40:28,440
federal government or the US
government from infringing upon

1720
01:40:28,440 --> 01:40:31,350
that right. That's pretty much
what the Bill of Rights is. So

1721
01:40:31,410 --> 01:40:34,740
don't get trapped into this.
Bill. You have you have this

1722
01:40:34,740 --> 01:40:38,520
right, because of the First
Amendment. No, no. But if you go

1723
01:40:38,520 --> 01:40:39,660
back even earlier,

1724
01:40:39,690 --> 01:40:42,120
that for some reason, we have to
continually remind everybody

1725
01:40:43,260 --> 01:40:44,700
because the media won't do it.

1726
01:40:45,660 --> 01:40:51,720
So this and there was a court
decision, and I believe this was

1727
01:40:51,720 --> 01:41:01,530
or 1919 This is Wendell Jones
verse or the was it 1919 Shank

1728
01:41:01,530 --> 01:41:04,950
versus United States. Here we
go. This was a Supreme Court

1729
01:41:04,980 --> 01:41:12,330
case. And out of this. Out of
this case, came the phrase

1730
01:41:12,330 --> 01:41:14,880
shouting fire in a crowded
theater so that never actually

1731
01:41:14,880 --> 01:41:21,300
happened. But this is one of the
one of the examples where free

1732
01:41:21,300 --> 01:41:24,060
speech apparently according to
the Supreme Court was not

1733
01:41:24,060 --> 01:41:27,540
protected. He oversaw printed
and mailed more than 15,000

1734
01:41:27,540 --> 01:41:31,230
leaflets to men slated for
conscription. During World War

1735
01:41:31,230 --> 01:41:34,350
One the leaflets urge men not to
submit the to the draft saying

1736
01:41:34,350 --> 01:41:37,650
do not submit to intimidation,
assert your rights. If you do

1737
01:41:37,650 --> 01:41:39,930
not assert and support your
rights, you are helping to deny

1738
01:41:39,930 --> 01:41:43,320
or disparage rights, which is
the solemn duty of all citizens

1739
01:41:43,320 --> 01:41:46,800
and the residents of the United
States to retain and he urged

1740
01:41:46,800 --> 01:41:53,490
them not to comply with the
draft now he was convicted based

1741
01:41:53,490 --> 01:41:56,340
on I think was a part of the
Espionage Act and they fought

1742
01:41:56,340 --> 01:42:01,230
this on first amendment right.
But he lost it was apparently if

1743
01:42:01,230 --> 01:42:04,170
the if you create a clear and
present danger, which is another

1744
01:42:04,170 --> 01:42:08,040
one of those terms like Okay,
now that has something to do

1745
01:42:08,040 --> 01:42:11,250
with it, then indeed, the the
most stringent protection of

1746
01:42:11,250 --> 01:42:14,040
free speech would not protect us
the Supreme Court would not

1747
01:42:14,040 --> 01:42:17,130
protect a man in falsely
shouting fire in a theater and

1748
01:42:17,130 --> 01:42:20,280
causing a panic the question in
every case is whether the words

1749
01:42:20,280 --> 01:42:23,430
used are used in such
circumstances and are of such a

1750
01:42:23,430 --> 01:42:26,640
nature as to create a clear and
present danger that they will

1751
01:42:26,640 --> 01:42:29,700
bring about the substantive
evils that Congress has a right

1752
01:42:29,700 --> 01:42:30,420
to prevent.

1753
01:42:33,600 --> 01:42:37,470
So you you got this reference
from something you read one

1754
01:42:37,470 --> 01:42:39,930
reference the one you just gave
us the one they

1755
01:42:40,020 --> 01:42:42,780
don't know that's that is the
opinion of the court this isn't

1756
01:42:44,010 --> 01:42:46,800
you didn't dig it up by by
digging through old documents

1757
01:42:46,800 --> 01:42:46,980
you

1758
01:42:47,010 --> 01:42:49,470
just what do you think what you
think I do on Saturday nights

1759
01:42:49,500 --> 01:42:53,070
not go to the ballet then I get
my patrons

1760
01:42:53,250 --> 01:42:58,290
ask you if you want me to.
Because it sounds to me is

1761
01:42:58,290 --> 01:43:01,170
though this is something
somebody's trying to promote? Or

1762
01:43:01,230 --> 01:43:05,280
are you or is this did this just
come out of your base? I want to

1763
01:43:05,280 --> 01:43:07,260
know because I want to know
whether this is something we

1764
01:43:07,260 --> 01:43:10,020
have to be on the lookout? Yes,
yes. It's something you dug up.

1765
01:43:10,290 --> 01:43:13,320
Well, this is something that
just goes back to the previous

1766
01:43:13,890 --> 01:43:17,370
episode where we were there
saying that this type of free

1767
01:43:17,370 --> 01:43:19,890
speech is not permitted under
the First Amendment and they're

1768
01:43:19,890 --> 01:43:21,150
moving it towards anybody

1769
01:43:21,150 --> 01:43:24,540
citing this particular case
besides you. Not this particular

1770
01:43:24,540 --> 01:43:27,930
one? No. Okay. No, that's
interesting. Well, they will now

1771
01:43:29,040 --> 01:43:33,000
well, it's going if he says
listen to what he's talking

1772
01:43:33,000 --> 01:43:37,020
about how this is not protected
it guys obviously not a lawyer

1773
01:43:37,680 --> 01:43:41,700
but it's it borders on hate
speech, hate crimes, all things

1774
01:43:41,700 --> 01:43:44,520
which are really very very fuzzy
a crime is a crime whether it's

1775
01:43:44,520 --> 01:43:48,030
done out of hatred or not, but
okay, we have I think what what

1776
01:43:48,030 --> 01:43:53,100
we'll see happen is if you do if
you commit a hate crime, which

1777
01:43:53,130 --> 01:43:57,390
and hate crime probably would
then result in a clear and

1778
01:43:57,390 --> 01:44:00,870
present danger to the citizens
of the United States, then it is

1779
01:44:00,870 --> 01:44:04,020
not protected under the First
Amendment. I think that's where

1780
01:44:04,020 --> 01:44:07,830
this is going. How I mean, what
what are they he doesn't even

1781
01:44:07,830 --> 01:44:10,590
give any basis for his claim,
but I gotta presume this guy's

1782
01:44:10,590 --> 01:44:13,680
just some shield dickhead who's
saying whatever he's meant to

1783
01:44:13,680 --> 01:44:14,100
say.

1784
01:44:16,350 --> 01:44:19,650
Well, I'm still trying to get my
head around the idea that having

1785
01:44:19,650 --> 01:44:25,440
a art exhibition is any sort of
hate crime well as much as

1786
01:44:25,440 --> 01:44:29,490
little guy comes and starts
gunning down people I mean, it

1787
01:44:29,490 --> 01:44:32,130
seems that the hate crimes
committed by the offender the

1788
01:44:32,130 --> 01:44:33,090
guy with a gun not

1789
01:44:33,270 --> 01:44:36,300
sure sure Okay, so
congratulations that's that's

1790
01:44:36,360 --> 01:44:38,460
that's what they're using was
doing and again

1791
01:44:38,460 --> 01:44:42,240
is they can they make I think
we're trying to get to here can

1792
01:44:42,240 --> 01:44:43,530
they make the

1793
01:44:45,570 --> 01:44:48,030
the crime of this showing

1794
01:44:48,030 --> 01:44:53,250
the art of provocation can they
make can they make anything that

1795
01:44:53,250 --> 01:44:57,900
results in violence by some
maniac can they make that the

1796
01:44:57,900 --> 01:45:02,310
actual that act provocation And
and if that's the case, then

1797
01:45:02,310 --> 01:45:06,120
it's that person's fault. And so
the other person acted out of

1798
01:45:06,150 --> 01:45:09,180
because they were provoked and
that less than the crime that

1799
01:45:09,180 --> 01:45:12,120
they committed if they tried to
get me that's a good thing they

1800
01:45:12,120 --> 01:45:14,670
shot these guys would probably
be making a federal case out of

1801
01:45:14,670 --> 01:45:18,660
the whole thing. But this is not
good any of it.

1802
01:45:18,690 --> 01:45:24,390
No, no. But you remember this
CNN douchebags on in the morning

1803
01:45:24,390 --> 01:45:27,810
with Makayla, he was tweeting
out saying, you know, it's not

1804
01:45:27,990 --> 01:45:30,300
protected by the First
Amendment, you know, you should

1805
01:45:30,300 --> 01:45:32,820
read you should read the
Constitution understand what it

1806
01:45:32,820 --> 01:45:37,740
says. Then so these are the only
two cases that pop up whenever

1807
01:45:37,740 --> 01:45:41,820
you try to look into when can
some form of action, and this is

1808
01:45:41,820 --> 01:45:44,550
why the shouting fire in a
crowded theater comes up, which

1809
01:45:44,550 --> 01:45:47,910
did not actually happen, but was
mentioned in the court's opinion

1810
01:45:48,090 --> 01:45:52,470
about this guy, who and I think
it's even it's an Oculus, an

1811
01:45:52,470 --> 01:45:56,850
Oculus know what's the Oculus.
Oculus sounds innocuous.

1812
01:45:58,380 --> 01:45:59,490
It's innocuous

1813
01:45:59,550 --> 01:46:01,590
an Oculus, I believe it's
something you put over your

1814
01:46:01,590 --> 01:46:04,140
eyes, virtual reality Oculus
Rift.

1815
01:46:07,230 --> 01:46:12,000
They're trying to turn this type
of X into a hate crime. And I

1816
01:46:12,000 --> 01:46:15,810
guess this guy spreading 15,000
leaflets, because men wouldn't

1817
01:46:15,810 --> 01:46:17,790
sign up, then it will be
dangerous to the country.

1818
01:46:17,790 --> 01:46:20,910
Therefore, it's a clear and
present danger, it comes down

1819
01:46:21,389 --> 01:46:25,349
to how does the art exhibit? And
I'm gonna, I would be asking

1820
01:46:25,349 --> 01:46:28,019
this question. It is douchebag
that was on MSNBC that you

1821
01:46:28,019 --> 01:46:33,479
played earlier? How does his art
exhibit as provocation any

1822
01:46:33,479 --> 01:46:38,789
different than the recently
protected flag burning? That

1823
01:46:38,789 --> 01:46:41,279
seems like more of a provocation
than anything? Well, you're

1824
01:46:41,279 --> 01:46:45,119
burning the flag, which is going
to annoy somebody, and they're

1825
01:46:45,119 --> 01:46:45,989
going to come after you

1826
01:46:46,019 --> 01:46:49,139
for the same reason that was
that freeze for the same reason

1827
01:46:49,139 --> 01:46:52,289
that Life of Brian was okay. For
the same reason that Book of

1828
01:46:52,289 --> 01:46:57,449
Mormon is okay. Because these
religions don't jump up and down

1829
01:46:57,449 --> 01:47:00,959
and start shooting people. And
of course, you know, that these

1830
01:47:00,959 --> 01:47:04,379
other people do. So you should
know better, I guess is what it

1831
01:47:04,379 --> 01:47:07,709
is. It's completely backwards.
By the way. Norway has ended

1832
01:47:07,709 --> 01:47:12,689
their blasphemy laws. They had
blast them. They had them. Yeah.

1833
01:47:13,289 --> 01:47:18,059
Yeah. And now they've scrapped
that. to Now you can do whatever

1834
01:47:18,059 --> 01:47:18,509
you want.

1835
01:47:18,600 --> 01:47:21,690
Back. There should be no
blasphemy laws in a modern

1836
01:47:21,690 --> 01:47:22,680
society. A lot of

1837
01:47:22,680 --> 01:47:25,680
Europe has a lot of these things
on the books. I think that's you

1838
01:47:25,680 --> 01:47:28,590
know, you can't you probably
couldn't do any of this now in

1839
01:47:28,590 --> 01:47:37,350
many European states. Oh, yeah.
Okay, so all I'm saying is,

1840
01:47:37,350 --> 01:47:41,340
let's keep our eye on it. And
remember, i we i have a pretty

1841
01:47:41,370 --> 01:47:44,220
you know, I have a feeling about
this whole event being set up to

1842
01:47:44,220 --> 01:47:48,330
prove a point. Now, you can say
it proves a point that crazies

1843
01:47:48,330 --> 01:47:51,000
come out of the woodworks or you
can say, Here you go. This is

1844
01:47:51,000 --> 01:47:55,500
what we're now going to prove.
You cannot do this. It is not

1845
01:47:55,500 --> 01:47:59,430
protected under free speech.
Just like douchebag Donald

1846
01:47:59,430 --> 01:48:03,870
Lawrence O'Donnell. He had a
great segment on listening. All

1847
01:48:03,870 --> 01:48:04,440
right, no, no,

1848
01:48:04,740 --> 01:48:07,410
no, I'm gonna tell you
something. I think you're

1849
01:48:07,410 --> 01:48:10,620
spending way too much time
because you scolded me for this

1850
01:48:10,650 --> 01:48:14,970
some time back. You get addicted
to watching MSNBC because your

1851
01:48:15,000 --> 01:48:18,660
jaw drops constantly. That's
true. You got an idiot like

1852
01:48:18,690 --> 01:48:21,090
Sharpton who's one of their top
guys.

1853
01:48:21,120 --> 01:48:23,100
I wasn't gonna play Sharpton.
No, I'm

1854
01:48:23,100 --> 01:48:26,130
saying that just to show you the
kind of audience that MSNBC has

1855
01:48:26,130 --> 01:48:28,230
Sharpton is like the second most
watched

1856
01:48:28,230 --> 01:48:30,780
guy on there. Yeah. And the
first most watched guys Rachel

1857
01:48:30,780 --> 01:48:39,390
Maddow, right. She's the first
but it was okay. Here's Lawrence

1858
01:48:39,390 --> 01:48:43,980
O'Donnell explaining why the
word thug is a racist word. Oh,

1859
01:48:43,980 --> 01:48:47,910
god. Yeah, this is fun. What
would be

1860
01:48:47,910 --> 01:48:53,100
the first word of choice for a
virulent racist to use on your

1861
01:48:53,100 --> 01:48:56,370
show about those people and know
for certain that

1862
01:48:57,000 --> 01:48:59,430
those people Yeah, I know. Isn't
that great?

1863
01:48:59,880 --> 01:49:03,090
Those people are racist pig

1864
01:49:05,370 --> 01:49:09,810
to use on your show about those
people and know for certain that

1865
01:49:09,810 --> 01:49:14,640
he or she could get away with
using that word. It would be

1866
01:49:14,640 --> 01:49:18,180
thought, you know, it would be
thought what

1867
01:49:18,180 --> 01:49:21,360
kind of mind control is this guy
trying to pull? This is why I

1868
01:49:21,360 --> 01:49:23,760
had the clip this John. I'm just
sitting there. He's well, you

1869
01:49:23,760 --> 01:49:24,660
know, that

1870
01:49:24,660 --> 01:49:28,740
word would be thug. You know,
you're listening to MSNBC. It's

1871
01:49:28,740 --> 01:49:31,020
like shooting fish in a barrel.

1872
01:49:31,140 --> 01:49:35,820
Yes, that's right. You know, it
would be the word. If we

1873
01:49:35,820 --> 01:49:39,450
can watch these guys that much.
Even Rachel, I can't stand that

1874
01:49:39,450 --> 01:49:42,840
smug up talk. thiaj does and
African

1875
01:49:42,840 --> 01:49:48,090
Americans know it would be fun.
So now you have to ask yourself

1876
01:49:48,330 --> 01:49:52,440
before you make your comments on
national television, how many

1877
01:49:52,440 --> 01:49:56,010
millions of African Americans
how many millions of African

1878
01:49:56,010 --> 01:50:01,590
American kids are you willing to
allow to sustain suspect that

1879
01:50:01,590 --> 01:50:03,330
you might be racist. So this

1880
01:50:03,330 --> 01:50:07,260
is a reverse psychology now my
head's spinning. So if I want to

1881
01:50:07,260 --> 01:50:11,160
make sure African American kids
better known as the kids of

1882
01:50:11,160 --> 01:50:15,300
those people, Lauren's, but I
don't want them to think I'm

1883
01:50:15,300 --> 01:50:19,650
racist, which is proof. If you
are afraid of people thinking

1884
01:50:19,650 --> 01:50:22,950
you're racist, you're racist
right there. Okay, that may be

1885
01:50:22,950 --> 01:50:26,040
too deep for Larry. So you don't
want to use any word that could

1886
01:50:26,040 --> 01:50:28,020
make people think you're a
racist?

1887
01:50:28,380 --> 01:50:34,650
How many? And here's what's so
very nutty about this whole

1888
01:50:34,650 --> 01:50:38,910
thing. You don't need to use
that word that creates that

1889
01:50:38,910 --> 01:50:42,750
suspicion. The word that so many
people on television seems so

1890
01:50:42,750 --> 01:50:43,680
eager to use.

1891
01:50:46,140 --> 01:50:47,610
You want to hear him say that,
you know, this

1892
01:50:47,610 --> 01:50:53,190
is the this is of sickness, I'm
going to give a story, PC World

1893
01:50:53,190 --> 01:50:58,590
these, they have a bunch of
these types of people. Very

1894
01:50:58,710 --> 01:51:09,030
politically correct. Liberals, I
think, mostly lesbians. And so

1895
01:51:09,030 --> 01:51:11,460
the guy ran into an engineer
Boeing who used to do some

1896
01:51:11,460 --> 01:51:15,030
writing for him. And he was we
were talking about some of the

1897
01:51:15,030 --> 01:51:17,820
screw Enos that's going on in
the publishing business with

1898
01:51:17,820 --> 01:51:22,230
some of these eight holes. And
he told me the story about how

1899
01:51:22,230 --> 01:51:25,680
he had submitted some copy
talking about some company this,

1900
01:51:25,710 --> 01:51:29,070
this and that, and he had and he
used, he said, and then the

1901
01:51:29,070 --> 01:51:33,840
company representative did this
and that, and it gives a copy

1902
01:51:33,840 --> 01:51:36,120
came back because they were
checking with people and they

1903
01:51:36,540 --> 01:51:42,000
they changed the word
representative to spokesperson

1904
01:51:43,860 --> 01:51:47,220
and he said, Why did you change
the word representative, a

1905
01:51:47,220 --> 01:51:52,830
spokesperson, and the woman
said, we don't use sexist

1906
01:51:52,830 --> 01:52:01,350
language at PC World. And he
said, and in a good like

1907
01:52:01,350 --> 01:52:05,730
logically said, what, why is
what's wrong with the word

1908
01:52:05,730 --> 01:52:09,150
representative as gender
neutral? She says, the word

1909
01:52:09,150 --> 01:52:13,470
spokesperson makes it clear to
the reader that we don't use

1910
01:52:13,470 --> 01:52:19,410
sexist language representative
does not do that. That's the

1911
01:52:19,410 --> 01:52:22,980
kind of screw Enos. Yeah, that
is permeate. And that's what you

1912
01:52:22,980 --> 01:52:27,810
just listen to that is the
stupid kind of addled thinking.

1913
01:52:28,110 --> 01:52:32,820
That goes on in everywhere. All
throughout the media. Yes.

1914
01:52:32,880 --> 01:52:37,890
I think it's more than that. I
think there's many people who

1915
01:52:37,890 --> 01:52:39,270
think there's also insanity

1916
01:52:39,270 --> 01:52:40,170
involved or something.

1917
01:52:40,530 --> 01:52:43,830
I would be shocked. But yes, of
course, there's insanity

1918
01:52:43,830 --> 01:52:48,600
involved. It's crazy. And is
this only is this a one of those

1919
01:52:48,630 --> 01:52:52,860
depends on the context things
where you can say thug in

1920
01:52:52,860 --> 01:52:55,650
different variations, or can you
just not use the

1921
01:52:55,650 --> 01:52:58,500
way it's gone? I see that note
the possible use of the word

1922
01:52:58,500 --> 01:53:01,530
thug without being called out.
And I would suspect that if you

1923
01:53:01,530 --> 01:53:04,410
wrote it in today's one of these
newspapers today, and you just

1924
01:53:04,410 --> 01:53:07,800
casually use it as the word
thug, I would almost guarantee

1925
01:53:07,800 --> 01:53:10,560
as of today, that the editor
would kick it back.

1926
01:53:12,270 --> 01:53:16,470
That's pretty sad. But But in
that context, context, if it was

1927
01:53:16,470 --> 01:53:19,320
in the context of Baltimore, use
the word thug. But if you just

1928
01:53:19,320 --> 01:53:22,080
use the word thug in general,
for some other group of people

1929
01:53:22,080 --> 01:53:24,840
who are beating somebody purpose
whatsoever, really,

1930
01:53:25,500 --> 01:53:28,440
let's listen to let's listen to
a little compilation of Mr.

1931
01:53:28,440 --> 01:53:33,000
O'Donnell's work. Considering
the use of the word thug,

1932
01:53:33,270 --> 01:53:38,070
and no one was more shocked at
being a loser than poor Scott

1933
01:53:38,070 --> 01:53:41,640
Brown who ran a Senate campaign
that was worthy of the thugs in

1934
01:53:41,640 --> 01:53:47,310
my Boston Neighborhood a
generation ago. In Christie

1935
01:53:47,310 --> 01:53:52,980
world in January, that got him
fired. But this a thug email

1936
01:53:53,010 --> 01:53:59,130
from Samsung saying he's playing
in traffic made a big mistake. I

1937
01:53:59,130 --> 01:54:03,900
don't think O'Reilly wants to
stop and frisk them. How many

1938
01:54:03,900 --> 01:54:07,560
times does O'Reilly have to see
Mark Zuckerberg in a hoodie to

1939
01:54:07,560 --> 01:54:11,460
realize that the hoodie has
become a completely culturally

1940
01:54:11,460 --> 01:54:15,120
economically neutral article of
clothing that tells you

1941
01:54:15,120 --> 01:54:19,530
virtually nothing about the
wearer? Except possibly where

1942
01:54:19,530 --> 01:54:24,030
the wearer went to school? But
any thug can get his hands on a

1943
01:54:24,030 --> 01:54:25,650
hoodie with any school name on
it.

1944
01:54:28,170 --> 01:54:29,760
I guess he didn't get the memo.

1945
01:54:29,940 --> 01:54:31,410
Okay, where did you get that?

1946
01:54:32,220 --> 01:54:33,240
We have producers.

1947
01:54:33,960 --> 01:54:35,370
Well, you did you add a little.

1948
01:54:35,760 --> 01:54:37,440
I added a little sting to it.
Yeah,

1949
01:54:37,440 --> 01:54:40,050
you've put a little you reduce
it. I'll give you a clip of the

1950
01:54:40,050 --> 01:54:40,290
day.

1951
01:54:40,320 --> 01:54:43,440
I won't take it. No, it has to
it has to balance out with my,

1952
01:54:43,650 --> 01:54:44,730
my huge.

1953
01:54:44,760 --> 01:54:48,060
Okay, well, then you're back to
neutral. My huge one like that.

1954
01:54:48,060 --> 01:54:49,140
You'll get it. Okay.

1955
01:54:49,950 --> 01:54:54,300
You challenge me. All right.
You're ready. You've challenged

1956
01:54:54,300 --> 01:55:00,000
me now. Yeah, this is Senator
now Cory Booker. Cory Booker.

1957
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:03,930
Now Senator, and man, you know,
Cory is a big tweeter. He's a

1958
01:55:03,930 --> 01:55:07,590
real big tweeter. He's tweeting
all day at some say he became a

1959
01:55:07,590 --> 01:55:10,740
Senator partially because of his
tweet harness and his social

1960
01:55:10,740 --> 01:55:14,280
media expertise. So they're up
there on the Hill talking about

1961
01:55:14,280 --> 01:55:18,180
stuff. And what do you think
he's like, hold on a second, we

1962
01:55:18,180 --> 01:55:19,770
suck at social media on this.

1963
01:55:19,770 --> 01:55:22,710
There are easy tactics. I know
them, as you said, from

1964
01:55:22,710 --> 01:55:26,940
politics, how to get more voice
and virality to messaging that

1965
01:55:26,940 --> 01:55:30,120
we're not using as a government
to get counter messages out

1966
01:55:30,120 --> 01:55:33,000
there you have, you know, I know
something about memes, the data

1967
01:55:33,000 --> 01:55:35,250
that you're presenting about
Muslims killing Muslims, and

1968
01:55:35,250 --> 01:55:38,190
this is a group that's killing
more Muslims to get memes to go

1969
01:55:38,190 --> 01:55:38,970
more viral.

1970
01:55:40,350 --> 01:55:45,990
Just to review, we're sucking.
But we need to fight ISIS. We

1971
01:55:45,990 --> 01:55:50,880
need more memes to go viral.
That way, we'll have to stop

1972
01:55:50,880 --> 01:55:51,330
ISIS

1973
01:55:51,330 --> 01:55:54,630
or fancy memes compared to what
we're not doing. Or

1974
01:55:54,630 --> 01:55:56,820
there's an obvious piece of
legislation that we need to

1975
01:55:56,820 --> 01:55:59,640
start working out of our direct
staff. But let's face it, we

1976
01:55:59,640 --> 01:56:01,650
invented the internet. We
invented the social network

1977
01:56:01,650 --> 01:56:05,520
sites, we've got Hollywood we
get got the capabilities, as Mr.

1978
01:56:05,520 --> 01:56:08,280
Shaikh was saying to blow these
guys out of the water from the

1979
01:56:08,280 --> 01:56:11,580
standpoint of communication, so
we need to work on that we need

1980
01:56:11,580 --> 01:56:12,450
to work on that quickly.

1981
01:56:26,760 --> 01:56:30,780
Mary McCoy Cory Booker,

1982
01:56:31,349 --> 01:56:35,579
wow. This is like the AZKALS
would go into a company and say

1983
01:56:35,879 --> 01:56:38,279
that you hire you're you're
hiring somebody. Okay, well,

1984
01:56:38,279 --> 01:56:40,919
here's what I want you to do. I
want you to make some viral

1985
01:56:40,919 --> 01:56:43,679
videos for a couple million
hits.

1986
01:56:43,710 --> 01:56:47,550
Do you have any idea if I had a
company that could screw it? We

1987
01:56:47,550 --> 01:56:50,400
should just register an LLC and
go for it. Yeah, we know how to

1988
01:56:50,400 --> 01:56:53,940
make viral viral videos for you.
We're we'll get right on that.

1989
01:56:55,200 --> 01:56:59,850
And of course the the sad part
about it is the all this ISIS

1990
01:56:59,850 --> 01:57:02,250
and we're already doing it.
That's Hillary Clinton State

1991
01:57:02,250 --> 01:57:03,270
Department experts.

1992
01:57:04,200 --> 01:57:07,590
Radical weeks I do a clip from
NCIS which is about this

1993
01:57:07,620 --> 01:57:10,080
guys know how to do it. We got
Hollywood How come we're not

1994
01:57:10,080 --> 01:57:12,030
doing this, uh, Cory Booker
aren't doing

1995
01:57:12,030 --> 01:57:16,350
it. Mostly to publish to
propagandize the public. The

1996
01:57:16,350 --> 01:57:19,080
United States public? We're
doing it? Yes. And we're

1997
01:57:19,080 --> 01:57:21,330
probably doing it over there
too. Or we got these little

1998
01:57:21,330 --> 01:57:23,730
fliers which I've never scanned
in which I still have sitting

1999
01:57:23,730 --> 01:57:26,100
here that they've thrown out the
back of an airplane that say

2000
01:57:26,100 --> 01:57:31,590
something. I don't know what.
Because I'm lax. We need we're

2001
01:57:31,590 --> 01:57:33,120
doing it. We're just all we do.

2002
01:57:33,210 --> 01:57:39,120
We we need more means better
means to go viral. We do. Your

2003
01:57:39,120 --> 01:57:42,510
senator from the great state of
New Jersey, Cory Booker,

2004
01:57:43,440 --> 01:57:44,580
Massachusetts.

2005
01:57:44,910 --> 01:57:48,420
Oh, is he from now? He's got to
be from New Jersey. He was in

2006
01:57:48,450 --> 01:57:49,110
Newark.

2007
01:57:51,660 --> 01:57:54,030
What am I thinking then? I think
enough.

2008
01:57:54,660 --> 01:57:58,110
I'm going to show my school by
donate to no agenda. Imagine all

2009
01:57:58,110 --> 01:58:00,660
the people who could do that. Oh
yeah, that'd be fun.

2010
01:58:08,070 --> 01:58:11,490
vinnova is the mayor of Newark
when I'm thinking about somebody

2011
01:58:11,490 --> 01:58:11,970
else.

2012
01:58:13,200 --> 01:58:16,920
Now he he's a big Twitter guy.
He saved Newark with Twitter.

2013
01:58:17,130 --> 01:58:21,150
Oh, we're all I remember this
guy now. Yeah, he's a Twitter

2014
01:58:21,150 --> 01:58:21,840
guy. Your writer

2015
01:58:21,840 --> 01:58:25,080
guy. He's the senator from the
land of Twitter. Don't Twitter.

2016
01:58:25,350 --> 01:58:29,970
He's better memes, more memes.
More memes. We do have we need

2017
01:58:29,970 --> 01:58:36,150
more donors? We do. We have 15
And here they are. Anonymous

2018
01:58:37,290 --> 01:58:47,460
12346 I think No, maybe not. And
thanks for providing T BTBPC itu

2019
01:58:47,460 --> 01:58:51,510
the best podcast in the
universe. Karma for up coming

2020
01:58:51,510 --> 01:58:55,110
surgery. I'll give you some
karma at the end. For surgery

2021
01:58:55,110 --> 01:59:00,300
now. Good. Sir Nicholas presepe
and Brawley, North Carolina

2022
01:59:00,300 --> 01:59:01,560
12345 and

2023
01:59:01,560 --> 01:59:05,760
he will become a Baronet today.
Yes, he will be a Baronet.

2024
01:59:05,790 --> 01:59:11,910
Today, Steve mariachi in Korean
Marquis but his mariachi in San

2025
01:59:11,910 --> 01:59:20,610
Jose, California. And he one 122
John Knowles in Murfreesboro,

2026
01:59:20,610 --> 01:59:28,980
Tennessee. 111 11 Oliver Reich
in San Francisco 6969 along with

2027
01:59:28,980 --> 01:59:38,370
cast Kathleen Leander in Earls
Cove BC over by spasm 6969. We

2028
01:59:38,370 --> 01:59:42,000
have a birthday call out for
her. She says she loves the show

2029
01:59:42,000 --> 01:59:48,000
because it makes our commutes
manageable. Sir Kevin dills in

2030
01:59:48,000 --> 01:59:53,340
Charlotte, North Carolina,
another birthday. His birthday

2031
01:59:53,340 --> 02:00:00,000
is coming up. I guess Tuesday
May 12. Be turning 29 job karma

2032
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:03,030
Coming in at the end Dame
Astrid, the Duchess of Japan,

2033
02:00:03,390 --> 02:00:04,470
and what does she say here?

2034
02:00:05,040 --> 02:00:07,260
She's been sending a couple of
notes. She's been doing some

2035
02:00:07,260 --> 02:00:11,100
stuff she'd liked in the
newsletter would have the ad

2036
02:00:11,100 --> 02:00:13,890
play, which we should probably
perform. We could do that.

2037
02:00:14,220 --> 02:00:17,070
Yeah, maybe today's not the day.
Okay, we'll

2038
02:00:17,070 --> 02:00:18,510
do it when you're more in the
mood.

2039
02:00:19,590 --> 02:00:21,060
I mean, I got knocked off my
perch.

2040
02:00:22,170 --> 02:00:24,960
Just for fun. This is
unbelievable because Yeah, well,

2041
02:00:24,960 --> 02:00:27,150
you know, I always write Happy
Mother's Day to

2042
02:00:27,150 --> 02:00:29,760
all the cool No, but instead of
I just said, Yeah, okay, and

2043
02:00:29,760 --> 02:00:30,900
then you kept on going?

2044
02:00:31,020 --> 02:00:33,660
No, no, because you had that
tone in your voice.

2045
02:00:35,130 --> 02:00:38,010
Happy Mother's Don't take that
tone with me young man.

2046
02:00:38,430 --> 02:00:42,570
Exactly. The cool moms out there
who have a healthy giggle at

2047
02:00:42,570 --> 02:00:45,630
directional energy weapon in my
pants jokes.

2048
02:00:48,240 --> 02:00:50,550
I thought that was a clip but I
guess it's something we said.

2049
02:00:56,100 --> 02:01:00,270
Jason Lewis in Macon Macon
Georgia, who got a birthday call

2050
02:01:00,270 --> 02:01:04,410
off 25 bucks filled Colburn are
born in New South Wales,

2051
02:01:05,070 --> 02:01:12,000
Australia 5111. Kevin Nunez in
East Brunswick, New Jersey. 50.

2052
02:01:12,000 --> 02:01:15,600
And these are all $50 donors.
Two of them there are four

2053
02:01:15,600 --> 02:01:19,560
Antonio McMullen from Parts
Unknown Paul Vela, in Milton

2054
02:01:19,560 --> 02:01:26,760
Keynes, UK, Yan Vanderlaan, in
Austin. 50. And finally, Sir

2055
02:01:26,760 --> 02:01:31,740
Brian Watson in Raleigh, North
Carolina. 50. And that will be

2056
02:01:31,740 --> 02:01:34,140
it for today's show. 720

2057
02:01:34,680 --> 02:01:38,310
I think I think I'm just
disappointed. I don't know what

2058
02:01:38,310 --> 02:01:40,830
it's just the donations two
weeks in a row. I'm just

2059
02:01:40,830 --> 02:01:43,890
disappointed, I guess. And then
yeah, well,

2060
02:01:43,890 --> 02:01:47,310
you it's a disappointing two
weeks, and then I feel like

2061
02:01:47,310 --> 02:01:50,490
nobody bought it. They bought
into the Mother's Day thing.

2062
02:01:50,610 --> 02:01:52,710
I'm worried about something
else. I'm worried about that.

2063
02:01:52,710 --> 02:01:55,770
I'm boring. And people are
getting bored. You may not be

2064
02:01:55,770 --> 02:01:56,850
calling me out enough.

2065
02:01:57,840 --> 02:02:03,870
No, but it's possible. People
will send you letters to tell

2066
02:02:03,870 --> 02:02:05,010
you that you're wonderful.

2067
02:02:05,220 --> 02:02:09,240
I'm not looking for that. This
will be a time for donations.

2068
02:02:09,240 --> 02:02:12,690
Yeah, that's true. But it also
be time to please people. If you

2069
02:02:12,690 --> 02:02:16,860
have just a link just twit tweet
it to me please. My emails out

2070
02:02:16,860 --> 02:02:20,220
of control again is another
thing. I finally had to tell

2071
02:02:20,220 --> 02:02:23,190
about that. I finally had to
tell the Russian. Just tweet

2072
02:02:23,190 --> 02:02:26,280
him. Did you see the Russian
handler who emails us all the

2073
02:02:26,280 --> 02:02:26,850
time?

2074
02:02:27,480 --> 02:02:29,760
What did he do this? He'll email

2075
02:02:29,760 --> 02:02:34,470
like, link to a YouTube video.
USA sucks. You know, link to an

2076
02:02:34,470 --> 02:02:38,100
image that shows bombed
America's drop. I said do more

2077
02:02:38,100 --> 02:02:41,220
explanatory. That's it. Stop and
look, I get it. America sucks.

2078
02:02:41,220 --> 02:02:43,980
Russia the best. Whatever the
email is something good.

2079
02:02:45,090 --> 02:02:48,630
Rushes Great. Yeah. Why are you
living in Brooklyn?

2080
02:02:50,670 --> 02:02:53,880
Is that where you live? from
Brooklyn. And like we have that

2081
02:02:53,880 --> 02:02:56,910
Ukrainian guy who lives in
Canada. You don't know what's

2082
02:02:56,910 --> 02:02:58,110
going on? Okay.

2083
02:02:58,680 --> 02:03:00,180
Are you living in Toronto?

2084
02:03:01,980 --> 02:03:05,850
Man? Yeah, maybe that's it, man.
Just get a little to Muir from

2085
02:03:05,850 --> 02:03:09,360
time to time. I do want to thank
everybody who came in on our

2086
02:03:09,360 --> 02:03:11,640
monthlies. Those are extremely
important, certainly on days

2087
02:03:11,640 --> 02:03:14,520
like this. So if you came in,
and we actually we only had

2088
02:03:14,520 --> 02:03:20,040
like, wow, we're down to 430
threes. 12 1211 elevens. And

2089
02:03:20,040 --> 02:03:22,980
then we go to fives and fours
and threes and twos. Thank you

2090
02:03:22,980 --> 02:03:28,290
very much. For those you've sent
us on here. Sometimes I catch it

2091
02:03:28,290 --> 02:03:30,810
too. Oh, yeah, sometimes, not
today did not eat we don't even

2092
02:03:30,810 --> 02:03:37,440
have a $2 donation on today's
list. That's how it got. No, and

2093
02:03:37,440 --> 02:03:39,000
if I'm just too boring, let me
know.

2094
02:03:41,340 --> 02:03:43,140
If Adam is too boring, let him
know.

2095
02:03:43,170 --> 02:03:49,470
Yes. In the meantime, please
remember us at devora.org/n A.

2096
02:03:56,550 --> 02:04:00,540
We got a good list today Sir
Frank hasn't stopped 52 on May 7

2097
02:04:00,570 --> 02:04:03,510
Kristin Kinnaman says Happy
Birthday to your husband Chris

2098
02:04:03,510 --> 02:04:05,940
Kinnaman. Celebrating on the
10th They'll be today sir Jean

2099
02:04:05,940 --> 02:04:09,540
Neptunia Happy Birthday to
PurePlus whitebox Sana Kathie

2100
02:04:09,540 --> 02:04:12,060
Lee Anderson Happy Birthday to
her husband royally under

2101
02:04:12,060 --> 02:04:16,380
turning 31 for Kevin bills,
turns 29 on May 12, and Jason

2102
02:04:16,380 --> 02:04:19,170
Lewis says Happy Birthday to
Tina hounds, we say the same

2103
02:04:19,170 --> 02:04:24,600
everybody from the best podcast
in the universe. Congratulate

2104
02:04:24,600 --> 02:04:29,670
Sir Nicholas princip with his
Baronet dumb today, so he's on

2105
02:04:29,670 --> 02:04:33,240
his way to becoming a full blown
Baron and then you can get his

2106
02:04:33,240 --> 02:04:35,760
protector. That was a question
asked me. Someone asked me the

2107
02:04:35,760 --> 02:04:37,590
other day. What do you get when
you get a protector? It?

2108
02:04:37,950 --> 02:04:42,480
We have to say that Sir Brian
Ferguson is at four kaneez 1k

2109
02:04:42,480 --> 02:04:43,770
Short of Vi count.

2110
02:04:44,190 --> 02:04:47,970
Okay, was that a question he
had? Yeah. Okay, that's back

2111
02:04:47,970 --> 02:04:48,720
office stuff.

2112
02:04:48,930 --> 02:04:51,270
Which air Eric answered. Okay.

2113
02:04:51,510 --> 02:04:54,090
Here's my blade. We're only
going to have Chris Kidman come

2114
02:04:54,090 --> 02:04:57,600
up. So if you could, might as
well get the long one though.

2115
02:04:57,840 --> 02:05:04,350
tall do you go slow Chris Kevin,
good to see you sir. We are very

2116
02:05:04,350 --> 02:05:06,840
happy to welcome you to the
table of the Knights in the

2117
02:05:06,840 --> 02:05:11,010
Dames and the table is round I
hereby pronounce to KMD Sir

2118
02:05:11,010 --> 02:05:15,360
Chris of Carmel by the sea as a
new night of an ocean roundtable

2119
02:05:15,360 --> 02:05:18,120
for you, my friend. We have
hookers and blow rent boys and

2120
02:05:18,120 --> 02:05:22,530
Chardonnay drama and DMT Johnnie
Walker green label video games

2121
02:05:22,530 --> 02:05:25,950
and vaporizers Saki and sushi
root beer and pepperoni pizza

2122
02:05:25,950 --> 02:05:29,820
malted barley and hops, root
beer and Legos pornstars and pot

2123
02:05:30,000 --> 02:05:32,760
Rubenesque, lemon and Rosae. And
of course we have our mutton in

2124
02:05:32,760 --> 02:05:36,150
Mead, which is always a favorite
go to no agenda nation.com/rings

2125
02:05:36,480 --> 02:05:40,200
Pick it up and give us your
info. And Eric, I'll send it out

2126
02:05:40,200 --> 02:05:44,250
to you ASAP. And thank you all
so much for supporting the work

2127
02:05:44,250 --> 02:05:46,170
here at the no agenda show.

2128
02:05:46,500 --> 02:05:48,510
Especially getting your mojo
back let's play something to

2129
02:05:48,510 --> 02:05:53,430
bring it down. Eclipse co2
highest.

2130
02:05:54,840 --> 02:05:57,540
The global level of carbon
dioxide in the atmosphere has

2131
02:05:57,540 --> 02:06:01,290
topped 400 parts per million for
the longest time in recorded

2132
02:06:01,290 --> 02:06:04,620
history. The National Oceanic
and Atmospheric Administration

2133
02:06:04,620 --> 02:06:07,380
says the grim milestone was
reached on average for the

2134
02:06:07,380 --> 02:06:11,790
entire month of March, the 400
parts per million threshold has

2135
02:06:11,790 --> 02:06:15,060
been important marker and UN
climate change negotiations

2136
02:06:15,330 --> 02:06:18,870
widely recognized as a dangerous
level that could drastically

2137
02:06:18,870 --> 02:06:22,080
worsen human caused global
warming. The environmentalist

2138
02:06:22,080 --> 02:06:25,920
group three fifty.org takes its
name after the 350 parts per

2139
02:06:25,920 --> 02:06:29,010
million threshold that
scientists say is the maximum

2140
02:06:29,190 --> 02:06:32,250
atmospheric concentration of
carbon dioxide for a safe

2141
02:06:32,250 --> 02:06:32,850
planet.

2142
02:06:35,220 --> 02:06:37,710
That's right, we're away over
it. What are these guys gonna do

2143
02:06:37,740 --> 02:06:38,670
with their name?

2144
02:06:38,790 --> 02:06:43,590
Grim? They gotta change it. I
wonder in fact that to recall

2145
02:06:43,590 --> 02:06:47,550
recorded all of recorded history
of mankind, this is the highest

2146
02:06:47,550 --> 02:06:51,000
has been for a sustained period.
Isn't that something? Historic

2147
02:06:51,000 --> 02:06:52,530
thing? Yes.

2148
02:06:52,830 --> 02:06:53,970
We should be celebrating

2149
02:06:54,270 --> 02:06:57,180
it since you're laughing. We're
gonna get to move on with to

2150
02:06:57,180 --> 02:06:58,770
another clip you might enjoy.
Oh, hold

2151
02:06:58,770 --> 02:07:02,130
on. Can we? Can we stick with
global warming for a moment? Or

2152
02:07:02,130 --> 02:07:05,130
do you got global warming
material? Yes, I do. I have some

2153
02:07:05,130 --> 02:07:11,190
material for you one big news
from Down Under. Mr. App, I'm

2154
02:07:11,190 --> 02:07:16,140
sorry, Texas, no down under Mr.
Abbott's chief business advisor

2155
02:07:16,920 --> 02:07:19,800
that will be a Prime Minister
Tony Abbott and Mr. Abbott

2156
02:07:19,800 --> 02:07:27,210
Abbott his see what was this guy
head? This guy's name is Mr.

2157
02:07:27,210 --> 02:07:31,620
Neumann. And he was his chief
business adviser. He says

2158
02:07:31,620 --> 02:07:35,700
climate change is a United
Nations hoax to end democracy.

2159
02:07:36,330 --> 02:07:39,570
Oh, he's taking it one step
beyond anything anyone else has

2160
02:07:39,570 --> 02:07:42,840
done. Here it is. Well, don't
wait

2161
02:07:42,840 --> 02:07:46,380
hold on a second. I'm gonna read
some 2006 2000

2162
02:07:46,380 --> 02:07:48,360
When we're doing this show,
where are we running into

2163
02:07:48,360 --> 02:07:51,390
material? They can't the early
material that was kind of

2164
02:07:51,390 --> 02:07:54,450
indicating they wanted to set up
global governance because of

2165
02:07:54,450 --> 02:07:55,530
climate change. First, we

2166
02:07:55,530 --> 02:07:58,260
have the climate change the
club, the carbon exchange, and

2167
02:07:58,260 --> 02:08:00,720
that would be the monetary part.
And then yes, global governance,

2168
02:08:00,720 --> 02:08:06,150
of course. Well, he puts it I
guess he wrote a column which

2169
02:08:06,150 --> 02:08:09,360
was published in the Australian
This is why and it's I liked it

2170
02:08:09,360 --> 02:08:13,380
this is no one has said that
here yet like this. Under the

2171
02:08:13,380 --> 02:08:17,490
sidebar subheading. The
international bodies real agenda

2172
02:08:17,490 --> 02:08:22,200
is a new world order under its
control. Mr. Newman wrote. This

2173
02:08:22,200 --> 02:08:25,290
is not about facts or logic.
It's about a new world order

2174
02:08:25,290 --> 02:08:28,080
under the control of the United
Nations. It's as it's opposed to

2175
02:08:28,080 --> 02:08:31,080
Capitalism and Freedom. It's
about a new world order under

2176
02:08:31,080 --> 02:08:35,340
the control of the UN. It's a
well kept secret 95% of the

2177
02:08:35,340 --> 02:08:37,800
climate models we are told
proved the link between human

2178
02:08:37,800 --> 02:08:40,230
co2 emissions and catastrophic
global warming have been found

2179
02:08:40,230 --> 02:08:42,390
after nearly two decades of
temperature status to be an

2180
02:08:42,390 --> 02:08:50,820
error. Now this seems to me like
it's so blatantly nutty and has

2181
02:08:50,820 --> 02:08:56,280
so many although true, of
course, that it's just being put

2182
02:08:56,280 --> 02:09:00,960
out there just to make naysayers
and people who question the

2183
02:09:00,960 --> 02:09:02,820
science sound nuttier?

2184
02:09:03,000 --> 02:09:07,170
Yeah, that's the idea. Yeah. No,
that's exactly what this is. The

2185
02:09:07,200 --> 02:09:09,810
you nailed it. That's exactly
what this is. But there was

2186
02:09:09,810 --> 02:09:12,450
another No, the editors are
doing high five. Oh, yeah. Like,

2187
02:09:13,530 --> 02:09:15,450
can we use Can we change a
couple of yet?

2188
02:09:16,710 --> 02:09:19,800
We've got the no agenda guys to
talk about it. Yeah, it's great.

2189
02:09:19,800 --> 02:09:23,700
Good work. There was, however,
from University of Bristol, a

2190
02:09:23,700 --> 02:09:27,720
nice paper that came out as
published by Science Daily. And

2191
02:09:27,720 --> 02:09:32,070
it's a warning to people who are
all in on the global warming,

2192
02:09:32,100 --> 02:09:35,370
manmade global warming climate
change how climate science

2193
02:09:35,370 --> 02:09:41,160
denial affects the science
community. This is very

2194
02:09:41,580 --> 02:09:42,210
interesting.

2195
02:09:42,269 --> 02:09:48,629
I get it already. That's yeah.
What, let me guess. It's because

2196
02:09:48,629 --> 02:09:52,259
of the bogus vividness of this
what these guys are up to with

2197
02:09:52,259 --> 02:09:56,369
the lies and the computer models
and every end and cover ups the

2198
02:09:56,399 --> 02:10:00,299
claim again, all the rest of it,
it makes it it makes it Then the

2199
02:10:00,299 --> 02:10:03,449
deniers come out with maybe some
logic and say, Well wait a

2200
02:10:03,449 --> 02:10:06,959
minute, this doesn't make sense.
And they get shouted down, the

2201
02:10:06,959 --> 02:10:10,319
whole atmosphere becomes anti
science because the science

2202
02:10:10,319 --> 02:10:12,539
people are bullies, they're
thugs.

2203
02:10:13,020 --> 02:10:16,830
I'll read from this article,
climate change denial in public.

2204
02:10:16,830 --> 02:10:20,670
And this is a, like one of those
official papers, because it

2205
02:10:20,670 --> 02:10:24,210
comes from the university. So I
guess it's been means something.

2206
02:10:24,420 --> 02:10:28,020
climate change denial and public
discourse may encourage climate

2207
02:10:28,020 --> 02:10:33,840
scientists to over emphasize the
scientific uncertainty. It is

2208
02:10:33,840 --> 02:10:37,020
also affecting how they
themselves speak, and perhaps

2209
02:10:37,080 --> 02:10:41,370
even think about their own
research. This is the study from

2210
02:10:41,370 --> 02:10:45,030
the University of Bristol in the
United Kingdom. So what this is

2211
02:10:45,030 --> 02:10:49,650
saying, is that because they're
and they have a couple of terms

2212
02:10:49,650 --> 02:10:54,450
for this, which I'm going to
find here. Because of this,

2213
02:10:55,530 --> 02:11:01,950
scientists are putting a lot of
wiggle room into the IPCC report

2214
02:11:01,950 --> 02:11:05,370
where they have somewhat likely
likely extremely likely, boy,

2215
02:11:05,370 --> 02:11:09,600
we're so sure it's likely but
not kind of likely. Yep. Which

2216
02:11:09,600 --> 02:11:12,300
is because it's not really
scientifically proven. It's only

2217
02:11:12,330 --> 02:11:14,160
a model predicting cycles in

2218
02:11:15,540 --> 02:11:16,800
Korea is the wrong but

2219
02:11:16,800 --> 02:11:20,190
I love that it's gotten to the
point where the study says

2220
02:11:20,340 --> 02:11:24,780
climate scientists might even
start thinking that their

2221
02:11:24,870 --> 02:11:28,800
research is incorrect. And much
and according to the study,

2222
02:11:28,830 --> 02:11:31,260
multiple lines of evidence
indicate that global warming

2223
02:11:31,260 --> 02:11:34,950
continues unabated, which
implies that talk of a pause or

2224
02:11:34,950 --> 02:11:39,360
a hiatus is misleading. So then
they go into some explanation

2225
02:11:39,360 --> 02:11:41,580
about you know, well, this is
not the first time it slowed

2226
02:11:41,580 --> 02:11:45,600
down, et cetera, et cetera. Why
mine scientists be affected by

2227
02:11:45,600 --> 02:11:48,270
contrarian public discourse
study argues that three

2228
02:11:48,270 --> 02:11:51,900
recognized psychological
mechanisms are at work this is

2229
02:11:51,930 --> 02:11:57,660
you know, this is my favorite
stuff. One is the stereotype

2230
02:11:57,660 --> 02:12:04,770
threat. Have you ever heard of
these? No, no. Stereotype threat

2231
02:12:04,770 --> 02:12:07,860
refers to the emotional and
behavior responses when a person

2232
02:12:07,860 --> 02:12:11,310
is reminded of an adverse
stereotype against a group to

2233
02:12:11,310 --> 02:12:14,910
which they belong. Thus, when
scientists are stereotyped as

2234
02:12:14,940 --> 02:12:18,420
alarmists, a predicted response
would be for them to try to

2235
02:12:18,420 --> 02:12:20,940
avoid seeming alarmist by
downplaying the degree of the

2236
02:12:20,940 --> 02:12:24,060
threat. Oh, very bad, of course.
See, this is a big problem

2237
02:12:24,270 --> 02:12:27,690
because of a whole climate
science deniers, or let's just

2238
02:12:27,690 --> 02:12:30,660
say climate deniers, which this
is what the President calls now

2239
02:12:30,780 --> 02:12:36,270
you deny climate. Because of
that, the global warmist are

2240
02:12:36,270 --> 02:12:40,170
afraid to ring the alarm, which
is very bad.

2241
02:12:40,350 --> 02:12:43,740
I haven't seen any evidence of
this world. The

2242
02:12:43,740 --> 02:12:47,730
University of Bristol disagrees,
then we have pluralistic

2243
02:12:47,760 --> 02:12:52,890
ignorance. Who the good is a
good term pluralistic ignorance

2244
02:12:52,890 --> 02:12:56,400
describes the phenomenon which
arises when a minority opinion

2245
02:12:56,400 --> 02:13:00,030
is given disproportionate
prominence in public debate,

2246
02:13:01,320 --> 02:13:04,230
resulting in the majority of
people incorrectly assuming

2247
02:13:04,230 --> 02:13:09,930
their opinion is marginalized.
Wow, that's, that's rich. Thus a

2248
02:13:09,930 --> 02:13:10,380
public

2249
02:13:10,830 --> 02:13:12,210
you got to start over this is
good.

2250
02:13:12,660 --> 02:13:16,560
pleura, Florida. pluralistic
ignorance describes the

2251
02:13:16,560 --> 02:13:20,460
phenomenon which arises when a
minority opinion is given

2252
02:13:20,460 --> 02:13:24,810
disproportionate prominence in
public debate, resulting in the

2253
02:13:24,810 --> 02:13:27,840
majority of people incorrectly
assuming their opinion is

2254
02:13:27,840 --> 02:13:31,260
marginalized. Wow, that's
flipping it on its head. So

2255
02:13:31,260 --> 02:13:34,710
they're saying so many climate
deniers are being given media

2256
02:13:34,710 --> 02:13:40,530
time that the clock the true
climate scientists who are all

2257
02:13:40,530 --> 02:13:43,260
in and all right, feel
marginalized? How about this

2258
02:13:43,260 --> 02:13:47,550
for how about turning that
around? It's just the opposite.

2259
02:13:47,820 --> 02:13:51,750
The majority don't believe in
any of this and they tended

2260
02:13:51,750 --> 02:13:56,280
climate. Warmest are getting
lots of airtime. And they're

2261
02:13:56,280 --> 02:13:58,980
making the majority of people
which are the ones are looking

2262
02:13:58,980 --> 02:14:03,000
at this logically. Feel like
well, maybe I'm wrong. And

2263
02:14:03,000 --> 02:14:05,250
that's why these guys some of
these guys bail out at the end,

2264
02:14:05,250 --> 02:14:07,470
you've seen these guys do it.
They're all this bullshit is

2265
02:14:07,470 --> 02:14:10,500
bullshit. And they know okay,
I'm in I'm in I'm in?

2266
02:14:11,070 --> 02:14:13,680
Well, the University of Bristol
draws a different conclusion in

2267
02:14:13,680 --> 02:14:17,040
their study, thus, a public
discourse that asserts that the

2268
02:14:17,040 --> 02:14:21,690
IPCC has exaggerated the threat
of climate change, may cause

2269
02:14:21,690 --> 02:14:26,010
scientist who disagree to think
their views are in the minority,

2270
02:14:26,160 --> 02:14:29,010
and they may therefore feel
inhibited from speaking out in

2271
02:14:29,010 --> 02:14:29,670
public.

2272
02:14:31,230 --> 02:14:32,640
That's, that's what I said. Just
Said, I

2273
02:14:32,640 --> 02:14:35,970
think that was what I think it's
exactly the opposite of what you

2274
02:14:35,970 --> 02:14:36,450
just said.

2275
02:14:36,990 --> 02:14:41,070
No, no, I said that the majority
of people are climate deniers,

2276
02:14:41,070 --> 02:14:45,960
and the and they get no airtime.
And they start to lose faith in

2277
02:14:45,960 --> 02:14:50,010
their own beliefs. And they've
because of the emphasis on the

2278
02:14:50,010 --> 02:14:52,890
other guys, okay, so getting the
media I mean, he's, I mean, if

2279
02:14:52,890 --> 02:14:55,920
you listen to the media, I've
never seen anybody that just in

2280
02:14:55,920 --> 02:14:57,870
fact, they have these guys.
We've had clips of these guys

2281
02:14:57,870 --> 02:15:01,530
saying, Well, we have to have
more, more Experts in the news

2282
02:15:01,530 --> 02:15:04,650
all news media should be
twisted. So whatever the story

2283
02:15:04,650 --> 02:15:08,070
is, is because of climate
change, remember Yes.

2284
02:15:09,900 --> 02:15:16,410
And then the final one is the
third person effect. Research

2285
02:15:16,410 --> 02:15:18,870
shows that people generally
believe that persuasive

2286
02:15:18,870 --> 02:15:21,810
communications exert a stronger
effect on others than on

2287
02:15:21,810 --> 02:15:27,240
themselves. This is known as the
Third Person effect. However, in

2288
02:15:27,240 --> 02:15:30,690
actual fact, people tend to be
more affected by persuasive

2289
02:15:30,690 --> 02:15:34,080
messages than they think, Oh,
this suggests the scientific

2290
02:15:34,080 --> 02:15:36,660
community may be susceptible to
arguments against climate

2291
02:15:36,660 --> 02:15:40,740
change, even when they know them
to be false. Oh, bad scientists

2292
02:15:40,740 --> 02:15:43,410
bad science. Bad Bad, bad, bad.

2293
02:15:45,990 --> 02:15:47,160
The sciences,

2294
02:15:48,780 --> 02:15:50,310
science, but there's more.

2295
02:15:51,480 --> 02:15:55,320
Doesn't the line know them to be
false? Kind of like twisted?

2296
02:15:56,400 --> 02:16:00,600
Well, this may be a way to back
out like people. Oh, I've got

2297
02:16:01,560 --> 02:16:06,180
I've got third person problems.
was the other one. I liked the

2298
02:16:06,180 --> 02:16:06,840
other one better. What

2299
02:16:06,840 --> 02:16:08,250
was a realistic ignorance?

2300
02:16:08,280 --> 02:16:11,370
I'm sorry. I'm just filled with
pluralistic ignorance today on

2301
02:16:11,370 --> 02:16:17,610
PEI. Ah, but wait, as you know,
here in Austin, Texas. One of

2302
02:16:17,610 --> 02:16:19,830
the things that has never
advertised when you come to the

2303
02:16:19,860 --> 02:16:22,350
the great state the great Lone
Star state you come to the

2304
02:16:22,350 --> 02:16:26,580
fabulously hip town of Austin,
Texas. What do they never tell

2305
02:16:26,580 --> 02:16:27,210
you about?

2306
02:16:28,170 --> 02:16:30,480
The weather? The allergies? Oh,
yeah.

2307
02:16:30,960 --> 02:16:34,140
Natalie Azar joins us right now
to talk about this pollen

2308
02:16:34,140 --> 02:16:36,690
tsunami sounds like we made it
up. But columns

2309
02:16:36,689 --> 02:16:40,229
tsunami, there's your show title
Hollins tsunami.

2310
02:16:40,860 --> 02:16:43,410
Tommy sounds like we made it up.
But this is real. It's a

2311
02:16:43,410 --> 02:16:46,590
terrible, terrible allergy
season. A couple of reasons. One

2312
02:16:46,590 --> 02:16:49,410
is that we've had a really late
winter, so we're having a bunch

2313
02:16:49,410 --> 02:16:51,840
of different pollens converging
on us at the same time right now

2314
02:16:51,870 --> 02:16:54,840
tree and grass. Another reason
is climate change raises carbon

2315
02:16:54,840 --> 02:16:55,770
dioxide levels.

2316
02:16:59,670 --> 02:17:02,340
You got to just make climate
change part of every argument.

2317
02:17:02,970 --> 02:17:04,170
And let me ask you this.

2318
02:17:04,290 --> 02:17:07,110
I don't want to give you a blow
job because of climate change.

2319
02:17:08,040 --> 02:17:09,120
Yeah, we got it. We kind

2320
02:17:09,119 --> 02:17:11,339
of come up with a better one.
Yeah, that's well, that's No,

2321
02:17:11,610 --> 02:17:15,060
I just ate bugs. No, that won't
work. You don't kiss me. I just

2322
02:17:15,060 --> 02:17:18,600
ate bugs for climate change. No,

2323
02:17:19,110 --> 02:17:24,030
hurricanes. This came out said
is ridiculous. How few since

2324
02:17:24,060 --> 02:17:24,870
Katrina

2325
02:17:25,410 --> 02:17:29,250
2000 451 Of the nine years now
going on nine,

2326
02:17:29,280 --> 02:17:34,470
nine years of nothing. Yeah. And
we're now if you're now there's

2327
02:17:34,470 --> 02:17:37,590
two things that come to mind.
You had the one you'd like to

2328
02:17:37,590 --> 02:17:40,380
harp on, which was the
commentary from these warmers

2329
02:17:40,380 --> 02:17:44,370
that oh, the kids in England
we'll never get to see snow

2330
02:17:44,400 --> 02:17:49,290
again. Yes. Only the snow globe.
Only the snow globe. And

2331
02:17:49,290 --> 02:17:51,870
meanwhile, it's been you know,
it's those in snow. It snowed

2332
02:17:51,870 --> 02:17:55,410
more never a couple of these
years. And then the other one

2333
02:17:55,410 --> 02:17:58,080
and you heard it I heard
everyone listen to this show is

2334
02:17:58,080 --> 02:18:03,600
heard it Oh, my God is going to
be decades of super storms and

2335
02:18:03,600 --> 02:18:07,470
hurricanes of level five number
of whatever the Category Five,

2336
02:18:07,500 --> 02:18:11,340
Category Five, horrible
hurricanes will be pounding as

2337
02:18:11,340 --> 02:18:14,490
in pounding us, and there hasn't
been Jack.

2338
02:18:14,879 --> 02:18:17,279
Well, luckily, there's a sight
point is the public say,

2339
02:18:17,279 --> 02:18:19,709
hey, no, shut up.

2340
02:18:20,879 --> 02:18:24,899
There also there is Luckily this
is a super typhoon on its way to

2341
02:18:24,929 --> 02:18:26,159
I think the Philippines.

2342
02:18:26,459 --> 02:18:29,099
Oh, yeah. Well, that'll help
happen before.

2343
02:18:29,129 --> 02:18:30,119
Yeah, it'll help.

2344
02:18:30,870 --> 02:18:33,480
Yeah, I guess they can maybe use
that as well. You know, they're

2345
02:18:33,480 --> 02:18:38,040
over here. Now. I find it
distressing.

2346
02:18:38,310 --> 02:18:43,470
But this, this study from the
University of Bristol to me, I

2347
02:18:43,470 --> 02:18:46,140
don't know, the way they frame
all this. I'm thinking that

2348
02:18:46,230 --> 02:18:49,650
they're people just they want to
back out. And, and this is

2349
02:18:49,650 --> 02:18:54,180
either meant to help them ease
them out, you know? Like I

2350
02:18:54,180 --> 02:18:57,840
couldn't take if Doug was
marginalized by give off.

2351
02:18:58,590 --> 02:19:00,420
Although abundance, how many
would give up on the money?

2352
02:19:00,420 --> 02:19:01,920
Because that's where it all is?

2353
02:19:01,980 --> 02:19:04,830
Well, the money's being cut out.
I don't know if I have the clip.

2354
02:19:04,860 --> 02:19:06,600
Oh, oh, let

2355
02:19:06,599 --> 02:19:09,749
me guess. sequestration?

2356
02:19:10,230 --> 02:19:15,090
No, no, it's a I don't I don't
think I took it. Let's see

2357
02:19:15,120 --> 02:19:20,130
charter school co2. I think I
left it. But the clip was on

2358
02:19:20,130 --> 02:19:24,030
Democracy Now. And it was the
new Republican you know, it's

2359
02:19:24,030 --> 02:19:26,970
always the Republicans fault.
They're going to cut back a

2360
02:19:26,970 --> 02:19:31,410
bunch of the funding that oh, is
this charter is from school when

2361
02:19:31,410 --> 02:19:34,200
is different? This I don't have
the clip. Are they pulling a

2362
02:19:34,200 --> 02:19:38,250
bunch of funds from these these
researchers that are just

2363
02:19:38,250 --> 02:19:40,980
spending all their money on you
know, proving there's climate

2364
02:19:40,980 --> 02:19:43,290
change going on when there's
proving nothing and just taking

2365
02:19:43,290 --> 02:19:46,920
the money? In fact is money
thing is because that the

2366
02:19:46,920 --> 02:19:51,510
charter school thing is worth
playing. This is the play this

2367
02:19:52,350 --> 02:19:56,700
charter schools. I'm going to
stop this at some point because

2368
02:19:57,120 --> 02:20:00,360
it's on Democracy Now. There's
now some antitrust Your school

2369
02:20:00,360 --> 02:20:02,790
thing going on and play this

2370
02:20:02,790 --> 02:20:05,100
where's this going on this anti
charter school thing

2371
02:20:05,310 --> 02:20:09,270
on the left somewhere. I mean,
really all over it on Democracy

2372
02:20:09,270 --> 02:20:12,000
Now play charter schools. long
intro.

2373
02:20:12,150 --> 02:20:14,820
Well, with the Obama
administration asking Congress

2374
02:20:14,820 --> 02:20:19,710
to increase funding for charter
schools by almost 50%. We turn

2375
02:20:19,710 --> 02:20:22,740
to a major new report that
claims charter schools are

2376
02:20:22,740 --> 02:20:25,890
already spending billions of
dollars of federal money with

2377
02:20:25,920 --> 02:20:29,550
nearly no oversight, regulation
or accountability, certainly

2378
02:20:29,550 --> 02:20:33,330
here in Texas. The report was
released by the Center for Media

2379
02:20:33,330 --> 02:20:36,990
and Democracy and it's called
new documents show how taxpayer

2380
02:20:36,990 --> 02:20:39,960
money is wasted by charter
schools. According to the

2381
02:20:39,960 --> 02:20:43,050
report, the federal government
has spent more than $3 billion

2382
02:20:43,710 --> 02:20:46,950
over the past two decades on the
charter school industry. But

2383
02:20:46,950 --> 02:20:50,070
there is no comprehensive
database showing how those funds

2384
02:20:50,070 --> 02:20:52,470
are spent and what results they
produce.

2385
02:20:52,500 --> 02:20:56,130
A new report analyzes materials
obtained from open records

2386
02:20:56,130 --> 02:20:59,280
requests regarding independent
audits of how states interact

2387
02:20:59,280 --> 02:21:03,510
with charter schools and their
authorizers. It concludes that

2388
02:21:03,510 --> 02:21:06,540
the anti regulatory environment
around charter schools coupled

2389
02:21:06,540 --> 02:21:09,150
with their lack of financial
transparency warrants a

2390
02:21:09,150 --> 02:21:12,870
moratorium rather than increased
charter funding. Now, for more

2391
02:21:12,870 --> 02:21:16,110
we go to Denver, Colorado to
Denver Open Media, where we're

2392
02:21:16,110 --> 02:21:16,950
joined by Lisa,

2393
02:21:17,040 --> 02:21:19,260
this is a lot of groups that I
hear in this here. Did you look

2394
02:21:19,260 --> 02:21:21,960
up any of these groups like
Denver Open Media and

2395
02:21:22,410 --> 02:21:26,820
okay, this is the problem with
this. Yeah. I mean, I'm not a

2396
02:21:26,910 --> 02:21:30,240
big fan of charter schools. And
I have reasons that are whatever

2397
02:21:30,240 --> 02:21:34,080
they are, this, this woman
that's going to come on, and

2398
02:21:34,080 --> 02:21:36,900
she's going to yak for a while.
And then there's a second clip,

2399
02:21:36,900 --> 02:21:39,420
which actually has her kind of
being a little more concise.

2400
02:21:40,140 --> 02:21:45,510
She's from this, this, these are
all Let's summarize by saying

2401
02:21:45,510 --> 02:21:50,010
she's also one of the members or
founders of the stop the Koch

2402
02:21:50,010 --> 02:21:56,610
brothers series, something like
that. And this and they bring

2403
02:21:56,610 --> 02:21:58,950
this up, I don't have the clip
of it. But in there, they're

2404
02:21:58,980 --> 02:22:01,740
bitching about the Koch brothers
again, as though they're behind

2405
02:22:01,740 --> 02:22:03,960
the whole thing, the whole
charter scam, because it's a

2406
02:22:03,960 --> 02:22:05,190
bunch of money makers

2407
02:22:05,220 --> 02:22:07,620
when it's okay. Wow.

2408
02:22:07,860 --> 02:22:12,120
No, that kind of that kind of
screws up? I mean, I think the

2409
02:22:12,120 --> 02:22:14,760
report is probably valid. I
think they have some but what's

2410
02:22:14,760 --> 02:22:18,240
happened, it seems to me is that
the liberals who have always

2411
02:22:18,240 --> 02:22:22,110
been kind of in never all in but
kind of in on the charter school

2412
02:22:22,110 --> 02:22:26,610
idea if they can get their kids
into. And then now it's because

2413
02:22:26,610 --> 02:22:32,040
the Koch brothers seem to be in
on it. It's bad. It's bad.

2414
02:22:33,390 --> 02:22:36,300
And these guys are doing some
good work. Actually. If you want

2415
02:22:36,300 --> 02:22:39,660
to get rid of something, just
bring in Charles. Thank you,

2416
02:22:39,660 --> 02:22:42,060
Charles. In particular, hey,
Charles, come on, man. Just sit

2417
02:22:42,060 --> 02:22:44,220
on the board here so people can
get the fuck out of here. We can

2418
02:22:44,220 --> 02:22:46,680
end this. Yeah, more of the
intro.

2419
02:22:47,039 --> 02:22:48,779
Yeah, you can play a little I'm
interested. We're going to

2420
02:22:48,779 --> 02:22:49,139
Denver

2421
02:22:49,170 --> 02:22:51,900
graves, Executive Director of
the Center for Media and

2422
02:22:51,900 --> 02:22:53,190
Democracy who should stop

2423
02:22:53,190 --> 02:22:55,770
right now. Because I see this
question coming up and we take

2424
02:22:55,770 --> 02:22:58,890
it for granted. We need to we
need to address what a charter

2425
02:22:58,890 --> 02:23:03,570
school is. This is not a this is
a US term, a US phenomenon.

2426
02:23:03,810 --> 02:23:06,960
Maybe it's important to just
explain what it is.

2427
02:23:07,439 --> 02:23:10,739
Okay. Let's go to the book of
knowledge. Let's go to the book

2428
02:23:10,739 --> 02:23:13,169
of knowledge and get the
official explanation.

2429
02:23:15,840 --> 02:23:19,290
Paraphrasing I'd say you can
start a school anybody can start

2430
02:23:19,290 --> 02:23:21,600
a school, the government has
money available for that for you

2431
02:23:21,600 --> 02:23:25,110
to run the school. And that's
how the schools are created. And

2432
02:23:25,110 --> 02:23:29,370
they are, I believe, often
profitable, if not ancillary,

2433
02:23:29,910 --> 02:23:31,230
ancillary POF profitable.

2434
02:23:31,650 --> 02:23:34,290
Charter School is a school that
receives public funding, but

2435
02:23:34,290 --> 02:23:37,740
operates independently of the
established public school system

2436
02:23:38,100 --> 02:23:40,830
in which it is located. So the
school board has nothing to do

2437
02:23:40,830 --> 02:23:45,180
with these things. And they are
set up by proposals in some way,

2438
02:23:45,180 --> 02:23:47,160
shape or form, and they send
money that they asked the

2439
02:23:47,160 --> 02:23:49,380
government for money to let them
go and

2440
02:23:49,410 --> 02:23:53,040
do whatever we discussed looking
at this at one point, like maybe

2441
02:23:53,040 --> 02:23:58,230
six or seven years ago. Yeah.
about setting up a school. A

2442
02:23:58,230 --> 02:23:59,580
charter school. Yeah,

2443
02:23:59,610 --> 02:24:00,900
does one dish is

2444
02:24:01,020 --> 02:24:02,430
another great idea we had.

2445
02:24:02,610 --> 02:24:05,820
Well, we have a lot of great
ideas. There's a charter school

2446
02:24:05,820 --> 02:24:10,620
in Albany, that is in would I
could only describe as a small

2447
02:24:10,620 --> 02:24:14,820
storefront that used to be a
tennis racket stringing

2448
02:24:14,820 --> 02:24:18,540
operation. And it's like it just
like to think it's got like two

2449
02:24:18,540 --> 02:24:21,840
desks. It's like, I don't know
what they're up to. But it just

2450
02:24:21,840 --> 02:24:25,860
screwy anyway, charter schools
are an example of alternative

2451
02:24:25,860 --> 02:24:27,600
education. These things

2452
02:24:27,660 --> 02:24:31,380
is this state money or federal
money? Mostly federal, right?

2453
02:24:31,380 --> 02:24:31,560
Yeah,

2454
02:24:31,590 --> 02:24:34,230
I think but state two is both of
them. They get money from every

2455
02:24:34,230 --> 02:24:39,510
which way. Minnesota there we go
read some more. Minnesota wrote

2456
02:24:39,510 --> 02:24:43,140
the first charter school law in
the United States in 1991. As a

2457
02:24:43,140 --> 02:24:46,980
2011. They now have 149
registered charter schools with

2458
02:24:46,980 --> 02:24:50,010
over 330 5000 students
attending. The first of these

2459
02:24:50,010 --> 02:24:55,620
was bluffview Montessori School.
Okay. Since then, 43 states and

2460
02:24:55,620 --> 02:24:57,900
the District of Columbia have
approved the formation of

2461
02:24:57,900 --> 02:25:01,290
charter schools. So these are
schools is outside the system

2462
02:25:01,680 --> 02:25:04,770
that are supposed to be better
because they're privately run

2463
02:25:04,770 --> 02:25:08,850
and they're operated with, you
know, as a private sector. It's

2464
02:25:08,850 --> 02:25:10,890
like a private school, but it's
private school that gets

2465
02:25:10,890 --> 02:25:13,560
government money, the problem
that these guys are having, and

2466
02:25:13,560 --> 02:25:15,420
this woman comes on, you don't
have to play anymore. That's

2467
02:25:15,690 --> 02:25:18,660
okay. Go to the second clip,
because it summarizes a little

2468
02:25:18,660 --> 02:25:19,020
better.

2469
02:25:19,260 --> 02:25:22,890
Well, Lisa, one of the things
that your report highlights is

2470
02:25:22,890 --> 02:25:26,250
this, this black hole of
accountability when it comes to

2471
02:25:26,250 --> 02:25:29,340
charter schools, that the
federal government is not

2472
02:25:29,340 --> 02:25:32,790
holding the states responsible
for the money it gives to the

2473
02:25:32,790 --> 02:25:36,870
states for charter schools, the
states are not holding their own

2474
02:25:36,930 --> 02:25:40,980
charter authorizing agencies or
even the individual charter

2475
02:25:40,980 --> 02:25:45,030
schools accountable. And and you
conclude that it's this was not

2476
02:25:45,030 --> 02:25:45,750
by accident.

2477
02:25:46,200 --> 02:25:48,420
That's right. You know, one of
the things we've seen over and

2478
02:25:48,420 --> 02:25:52,560
over again, are promises by the
Department of Education, to do

2479
02:25:52,560 --> 02:25:55,410
more to hold charter schools
accountable. But what you see on

2480
02:25:55,410 --> 02:25:58,620
the ground, based on the audits
based on the Inspector General's

2481
02:25:58,620 --> 02:26:01,860
report is a real lack of
controls, you basically have the

2482
02:26:01,860 --> 02:26:05,010
Department of Education's
charter operation, sort of

2483
02:26:05,010 --> 02:26:08,970
encouraging the states to do
more. Meanwhile, you have audits

2484
02:26:08,970 --> 02:26:12,060
that show that in many
instances, the states have no

2485
02:26:12,060 --> 02:26:15,240
idea where the money was spent,
once it went into the charter

2486
02:26:15,240 --> 02:26:18,270
school system. They don't know
how many kids were really

2487
02:26:18,270 --> 02:26:21,030
served. They don't know what
happened to assets that were

2488
02:26:21,030 --> 02:26:24,990
purchased through our tax
dollars. And there's a recent

2489
02:26:24,990 --> 02:26:28,260
report last week from the Center
for popular democracy that shows

2490
02:26:28,380 --> 02:26:31,080
through looking through federal
and state criminal fraud

2491
02:26:31,080 --> 02:26:34,080
indictments. But there's been
more than $200 million worth of

2492
02:26:34,080 --> 02:26:37,440
fraud in the charter school
industry. And so this sort of

2493
02:26:37,440 --> 02:26:40,470
circumstance calls for much
greater control much greater

2494
02:26:40,470 --> 02:26:43,590
restraint, rather than the 50%
increase that the administration

2495
02:26:43,590 --> 02:26:45,390
has called for for charter
school funding.

2496
02:26:45,420 --> 02:26:50,340
Here's here's what's worrisome
in the great state of Texas 150

2497
02:26:50,340 --> 02:26:54,960
schools, charter schools are a
member are part of the harmony

2498
02:26:54,990 --> 02:27:01,080
Schools Network. And we've
discussed this, this is funded

2499
02:27:01,080 --> 02:27:06,030
by and run by Fidella Gulin.
Right, the Turkish guy and

2500
02:27:06,030 --> 02:27:09,390
Turkish guy in Pennsylvania, he
lives up on the hill under

2501
02:27:09,390 --> 02:27:13,680
protection, who is always
fighting with Erdogan in Turkey,

2502
02:27:14,160 --> 02:27:18,420
and many of his schools in
different parts of Europe I can

2503
02:27:18,420 --> 02:27:21,480
only speak to the ones in the
Netherlands were accused of

2504
02:27:21,480 --> 02:27:25,470
being Madras is IE where kids go
to be indoctrinated with Islam,

2505
02:27:25,620 --> 02:27:29,310
and surely memorize the Quran,
memorize the Quran and sleep

2506
02:27:29,310 --> 02:27:32,190
there and stay there and then
you but anyway, they kick those

2507
02:27:32,190 --> 02:27:36,570
out, they kick the schools out.
But here in in Texas, they're

2508
02:27:36,570 --> 02:27:40,380
always trying to catch him on
some brico sting and with the

2509
02:27:40,380 --> 02:27:43,680
FBI is always trying to get
finances but nothing ever comes

2510
02:27:43,680 --> 02:27:46,260
out of it. We're really no one
is looking at what these kids

2511
02:27:46,260 --> 02:27:50,220
are being taught. And tons of
administrators here in in Texas

2512
02:27:50,220 --> 02:27:54,240
are going on these cool little
freebie trips to Turkey. Hey,

2513
02:27:54,240 --> 02:27:56,100
you know, once you come take a
look in Turkey, we'll have a

2514
02:27:56,100 --> 02:27:59,520
little conversation about the
harmony schools I in Turkey. And

2515
02:27:59,520 --> 02:28:01,920
they're all in of course they
all go friend of mine is doing a

2516
02:28:01,920 --> 02:28:03,420
documentary on this. That's why
no.

2517
02:28:04,800 --> 02:28:05,730
Which would be good.

2518
02:28:07,500 --> 02:28:08,640
It won't change anything.

2519
02:28:08,910 --> 02:28:13,020
Well, it may be a change. Okay,
well,

2520
02:28:13,050 --> 02:28:18,990
it'll just be good to go. Oh,
no, be like the oh, now I know.

2521
02:28:19,650 --> 02:28:23,280
And then then nothing changes.
Yeah, well, this goes on and on.

2522
02:28:23,280 --> 02:28:25,650
And the Koch brothers are
blamed. And then the weird thing

2523
02:28:25,650 --> 02:28:28,170
if you heard this part of it
that you just listened to they

2524
02:28:28,200 --> 02:28:31,320
kind of scold the Department of
Education for being incompetent

2525
02:28:31,320 --> 02:28:33,990
Boneheads? Yeah, but because the
Koch brothers and the

2526
02:28:33,990 --> 02:28:36,480
conservative, generally
speaking, want to just dissolve

2527
02:28:36,480 --> 02:28:38,460
the Department of Education,
because it's really pretty

2528
02:28:38,460 --> 02:28:41,160
useless. That's what the
rationales are, what why are we

2529
02:28:41,160 --> 02:28:43,470
wasting our money on this, you
know, the states can do all this

2530
02:28:43,470 --> 02:28:47,910
stuff. And but because the Koch
brothers are part of that, all

2531
02:28:47,910 --> 02:28:50,700
of a sudden in this, I just
don't have it. But they turn

2532
02:28:50,700 --> 02:28:52,950
around, even though they're
bitching and moaning about these

2533
02:28:52,950 --> 02:28:56,550
charter schools to defend
because they're liberals defend

2534
02:28:56,550 --> 02:29:00,420
the Department of Education, say
how important it is. So the

2535
02:29:00,420 --> 02:29:02,970
thing falls apart. But it's
interesting that there's an

2536
02:29:02,970 --> 02:29:06,540
attack going on. That's what I
thought was right.

2537
02:29:06,570 --> 02:29:09,690
Well, there's also the KIPP
charter schools. And I've

2538
02:29:09,690 --> 02:29:11,760
actually heard very good things
about about the KIPP charter

2539
02:29:11,760 --> 02:29:14,430
schools. So this, this good and
bad, the ones that Chicago with,

2540
02:29:14,430 --> 02:29:18,360
it's more interesting when you
have 15 Public Schools taken

2541
02:29:18,360 --> 02:29:21,120
out, you put 15 charter schools
in and it's all a pipeline into

2542
02:29:21,120 --> 02:29:24,180
Cisco Avenue office there, and
they're not bashful about saying

2543
02:29:24,180 --> 02:29:28,560
it. And the more I think about
it, the more sense it makes. I

2544
02:29:28,560 --> 02:29:33,540
mean, look, if we need robots,
we need people to, you know, to

2545
02:29:34,770 --> 02:29:40,080
do maintenance on the drones and
other autonomous vessels.

2546
02:29:41,160 --> 02:29:44,040
Yeah, well, that was we came up
with that on the show showing

2547
02:29:44,040 --> 02:29:47,280
how it's a pipeline. Yeah, it's
a complete pipeline to a pipe,

2548
02:29:47,640 --> 02:29:51,150
robotic, you know, drone like
job where you can be replaced

2549
02:29:51,330 --> 02:29:54,300
eventually by a real robot
instead of these human robots,

2550
02:29:54,300 --> 02:29:55,590
which are not quite as good.

2551
02:29:55,650 --> 02:29:58,290
And it's interesting to see how
many people are so happy and

2552
02:29:58,290 --> 02:30:00,660
think it's so incredibly cool.
That's kind It's a culture of

2553
02:30:00,660 --> 02:30:04,800
course, the the religion of
technology, about the autonomous

2554
02:30:04,800 --> 02:30:07,590
trucks. And I some people even
where I've made a joke on

2555
02:30:07,590 --> 02:30:11,880
Twitter about this and some
people say, Well, you know,

2556
02:30:13,320 --> 02:30:15,870
things change when the horse and
buggy drivers were out of work

2557
02:30:15,870 --> 02:30:16,650
with automobiles.

2558
02:30:18,869 --> 02:30:22,199
Yeah, but look at all the people
if there's no more truck drivers

2559
02:30:22,199 --> 02:30:25,859
what? Why do you need a truck
stop just have some, just some

2560
02:30:25,859 --> 02:30:26,729
rails the

2561
02:30:26,730 --> 02:30:28,860
cascade effect is great.

2562
02:30:28,889 --> 02:30:30,779
You don't need anyone with any
food

2563
02:30:30,780 --> 02:30:31,980
or it was half our listeners.

2564
02:30:33,660 --> 02:30:37,710
That's right, you just killed
off our audience. Truck drivers

2565
02:30:37,710 --> 02:30:41,310
are dead. And that's all that's
all gone. But so much. Yeah, the

2566
02:30:41,340 --> 02:30:44,970
the what do you what did you
call it? cascade effect cascade

2567
02:30:44,970 --> 02:30:48,510
effect, right? The cascade
effect the unintended

2568
02:30:48,510 --> 02:30:52,050
consequences of cascading
technology, technological

2569
02:30:52,050 --> 02:30:52,830
revolutions.

2570
02:30:53,340 --> 02:30:58,980
Because then we have this guy, a
Kurzweil on this. He's a

2571
02:30:58,980 --> 02:31:03,000
complete maniac. And he's
talking about everything. You

2572
02:31:03,000 --> 02:31:06,270
This is just a he was on news.
Our

2573
02:31:06,300 --> 02:31:09,180
Is this because of his article
about us living in the matrix.

2574
02:31:09,840 --> 02:31:12,360
Now I don't know what it was why
I think it's more about his

2575
02:31:12,360 --> 02:31:17,250
article that we're all doomed.
Just as the singularity crap,

2576
02:31:17,550 --> 02:31:19,770
we're all going to expand
exponentially

2577
02:31:19,800 --> 02:31:24,000
the doubling power roughly every
year. So look at the Genome

2578
02:31:24,000 --> 02:31:27,690
Project was a 15 year project
halfway through the project

2579
02:31:27,690 --> 02:31:31,680
seven and a half years into it
1% had been completed. So some

2580
02:31:31,680 --> 02:31:35,310
people looked at and say, well,
1% we just barely got started. I

2581
02:31:35,310 --> 02:31:39,150
looked at and said 1%. Well,
we're halfway through because 1%

2582
02:31:39,150 --> 02:31:42,540
is only seven doublings from
100%. And it doubled every year.

2583
02:31:42,690 --> 02:31:46,440
Seven years later was finished.
So from one perspective where

2584
02:31:46,440 --> 02:31:49,800
early stage and artificial
intelligence but exponential

2585
02:31:49,800 --> 02:31:52,170
started slowly and then they
take off.

2586
02:31:52,470 --> 02:31:55,290
One such technology is the self
driving car.

2587
02:31:58,500 --> 02:32:01,800
Yeah, this is a misleading
argument of his

2588
02:32:01,830 --> 02:32:04,830
what exactly lost me a doubling.
I didn't understand what he was

2589
02:32:04,830 --> 02:32:06,000
saying. He's claiming

2590
02:32:06,000 --> 02:32:10,620
that he for some reason projects
the Moore's law, which reminds

2591
02:32:10,620 --> 02:32:13,230
me I gotta do another column on
this Moore's law, we're the

2592
02:32:13,230 --> 02:32:17,130
number of transistors on a
certain a square inch doubles

2593
02:32:17,190 --> 02:32:21,660
every 18 months, but he changed
that to a year. And because of

2594
02:32:21,690 --> 02:32:26,430
the number of transistors double
every 18 months or so, you end

2595
02:32:26,430 --> 02:32:29,940
up with this technological
exponential growth. Yeah, all of

2596
02:32:29,940 --> 02:32:33,480
a sudden you got all these you
know, items or face enter or

2597
02:32:33,480 --> 02:32:34,080
Facebook gets

2598
02:32:34,080 --> 02:32:38,340
faster. Yeah, it's faster, but
Netflix loads faster,

2599
02:32:38,400 --> 02:32:40,740
everything's better, faster,
cheaper, but this doesn't apply

2600
02:32:40,740 --> 02:32:43,980
to everything he gets likes as
it applies to everything pretty

2601
02:32:43,980 --> 02:32:47,850
much. So when the Genome Project
was gotten no real technology

2602
02:32:47,850 --> 02:32:54,120
aspect to it, except computer
use use for analyzing the the

2603
02:32:54,150 --> 02:32:58,410
genetic structure. It went
pretty quickly after the first

2604
02:32:58,410 --> 02:33:01,350
1% was done. According to him. I
don't know that this is even

2605
02:33:01,350 --> 02:33:05,490
true. That he figured it was
halfway there. So our long takes

2606
02:33:05,490 --> 02:33:07,650
to get the job. What he's
claiming is whatever however

2607
02:33:07,650 --> 02:33:11,220
long it takes to get the 1% is
like if it takes five years,

2608
02:33:11,220 --> 02:33:14,520
then in 10 years, you'll be at
the 100% mark when when I would

2609
02:33:14,520 --> 02:33:18,330
throw back at him take a look at
character recognition, or book

2610
02:33:18,330 --> 02:33:21,090
reading or handwriting
recognition when we got to the

2611
02:33:21,090 --> 02:33:24,150
1% pretty quickly. Then we got
to the 98% and then we haven't

2612
02:33:24,150 --> 02:33:24,870
moved an inch

2613
02:33:24,900 --> 02:33:25,710
Hey Siri,

2614
02:33:26,730 --> 02:33:31,560
Sky Siri. Hello Google. OK. OK,
Google. OK, Google delete my

2615
02:33:31,560 --> 02:33:35,820
calendar. Alexa, turn on the
lights. Oh, shoot. She actually

2616
02:33:35,820 --> 02:33:36,870
does that. Sorry.

2617
02:33:38,370 --> 02:33:42,420
Anyway, so they were just some
dumb me while I was watching

2618
02:33:42,420 --> 02:33:45,690
you. There was a I saw there was
an event with the just kind of

2619
02:33:45,690 --> 02:33:50,730
the usual suspects. I don't know
why Eric Schmidt is reading so

2620
02:33:50,730 --> 02:33:54,000
many books. But he wrote another
book on now. And he was being

2621
02:33:54,000 --> 02:33:58,920
interviewed at the end. I know
you're a huge fan. A huge fan of

2622
02:33:58,920 --> 02:34:00,630
Melissa Meyer. How

2623
02:34:00,630 --> 02:34:03,720
well I like Marissa. I don't
know about Melissa. I like

2624
02:34:04,710 --> 02:34:07,110
this. I meant Marissa even your
clip says Melissa

2625
02:34:08,640 --> 02:34:11,850
obviously midlist I'm a big fan
of Marissa Meyer. I think she is

2626
02:34:12,870 --> 02:34:15,660
fantastic. Company.

2627
02:34:15,870 --> 02:34:18,780
She's got this smokin high grip
because you think she's kind of

2628
02:34:18,780 --> 02:34:19,950
hot. She's got this.

2629
02:34:19,980 --> 02:34:22,500
I like I'm a fan. I like what
she does. I like what she says.

2630
02:34:23,160 --> 02:34:28,590
Yeah, no, no, just let me
finish. So I want you to listen

2631
02:34:28,590 --> 02:34:31,800
to her sultry voice and she has
a fascinating laugh.

2632
02:34:32,100 --> 02:34:36,420
No, no, no, don't do this to me.
This is like fascinating. Any

2633
02:34:36,450 --> 02:34:40,020
No, no, no, this is that you'll
appreciate. No, this is digital

2634
02:34:40,050 --> 02:34:41,760
castration. This is not fair.

2635
02:34:45,870 --> 02:34:49,020
And I was really grateful as I
watched my career, and my

2636
02:34:49,020 --> 02:34:51,600
compliment of being funny
flashed before my eyes that you

2637
02:34:51,600 --> 02:34:55,230
had a sense of humor in that
moment. How important is a sense

2638
02:34:55,230 --> 02:35:04,050
of humor as an executive So that
is how it works. In a real life

2639
02:35:04,050 --> 02:35:08,190
example, debate has been such an
honor. So whether you applying

2640
02:35:08,190 --> 02:35:08,550
to work,

2641
02:35:10,950 --> 02:35:18,420
man, I could put my hand over
her mouth. Come on. That's,

2642
02:35:18,810 --> 02:35:18,960
that's

2643
02:35:18,960 --> 02:35:20,610
that you'd appreciate it. Now
you have a little you know,

2644
02:35:20,610 --> 02:35:24,390
but you know what this is? This
is where you're okay? At least

2645
02:35:24,390 --> 02:35:26,520
we also laugh about Jeff Bezos
is

2646
02:35:26,910 --> 02:35:29,550
laugh, very similar. It is,

2647
02:35:29,580 --> 02:35:34,320
which is the hallmark of a great
CEO. A crazy ass laugh must be I

2648
02:35:34,650 --> 02:35:39,270
think so. I've been reading the
European Commission's report.

2649
02:35:39,480 --> 02:35:42,270
It's now bubbling up to the top
now that we have a couple things

2650
02:35:42,270 --> 02:35:46,410
behind us. The digital single
market, we've discussed this

2651
02:35:46,410 --> 02:35:51,540
before. And the idea is, they
have a huge website for all

2652
02:35:51,540 --> 02:35:55,050
kinds of smart papers and stuff.
And they're talking about making

2653
02:35:55,050 --> 02:36:00,270
cross border commerce easier. So
they're going to simplify the

2654
02:36:00,270 --> 02:36:04,770
VAT rules. Right now selling
cross border within the EU, can

2655
02:36:04,830 --> 02:36:08,280
you have all these compliance
issues? It is it is a nightmare.

2656
02:36:08,280 --> 02:36:14,310
But also they want to modernize
copyright law to ensure the

2657
02:36:14,310 --> 02:36:18,690
right balance between creators
and consumers interests. And

2658
02:36:18,690 --> 02:36:24,990
they also want to work with all
stakeholders in stakeholders

2659
02:36:24,990 --> 02:36:32,400
stakeholders, yes. In removing
illegal content from the

2660
02:36:32,400 --> 02:36:35,820
internet. Oh, yeah, we got to do
that. Yeah. And so this is

2661
02:36:35,820 --> 02:36:39,600
always interesting to me is what
exactly what exactly is legal

2662
02:36:39,600 --> 02:36:45,210
content, then a lot of it really
revolves around copyright law,

2663
02:36:45,300 --> 02:36:50,070
of course, for Hollywood, etc.
But when you see the most recent

2664
02:36:50,550 --> 02:37:00,450
case in the European Court of
Justice, it's appears now that

2665
02:37:00,570 --> 02:37:06,690
linking to copyrighted material
is also going to be deemed

2666
02:37:06,720 --> 02:37:08,730
infringing on someone's
copyright.

2667
02:37:10,620 --> 02:37:13,620
Yeah, yes, exactly.

2668
02:37:13,980 --> 02:37:18,600
So somebody links to my column
and PC Magazine. It was and I'm

2669
02:37:18,600 --> 02:37:19,470
all for this.

2670
02:37:19,500 --> 02:37:22,530
I mean, now for now, that's not
exactly it's not. It's not

2671
02:37:22,530 --> 02:37:26,850
exactly how it works. Okay. If
if someone had taken had copied

2672
02:37:26,850 --> 02:37:32,640
your column, and put it on
WordPress, like, you know,

2673
02:37:32,670 --> 02:37:37,860
favorite columns at word
wordpress.com. And then someone

2674
02:37:37,860 --> 02:37:41,430
links to the column there. Now,
I don't see why that's a good

2675
02:37:41,430 --> 02:37:45,150
example, because it will be
better for you know, pictures,

2676
02:37:45,390 --> 02:37:49,410
movies, songs, etc. That's an
easy, it's easier to understand

2677
02:37:49,410 --> 02:37:54,390
the example of just linking to
it will get you in legal trouble

2678
02:37:57,840 --> 02:38:00,600
is you're not this is a this is,
well, this is

2679
02:38:00,600 --> 02:38:03,450
well, they're pushing it. But
this I'm seeing this coming into

2680
02:38:03,450 --> 02:38:07,380
play as part of the digital
single market along with

2681
02:38:07,380 --> 02:38:10,290
licensing. So if you actually
want to do it, you will be a

2682
02:38:10,290 --> 02:38:14,100
journalist on Blogger license.
So you're recognized everywhere

2683
02:38:14,100 --> 02:38:15,960
as a blogger. Meanwhile, you
just got licensed to be a

2684
02:38:15,960 --> 02:38:19,050
blogger. All of these things are
this is the this truly is the

2685
02:38:19,050 --> 02:38:20,850
boiling frog over there man in
Europe.

2686
02:38:24,300 --> 02:38:27,930
Well, this isn't good. Now. Then
we have expect I've said it

2687
02:38:27,930 --> 02:38:30,780
before. This is the we're living
in the golden age of the

2688
02:38:30,780 --> 02:38:34,590
internet. We'll look back on
this as well. Used to be able to

2689
02:38:34,590 --> 02:38:37,980
do everything you wanted to do.
It was kind of cool. Daddy was a

2690
02:38:38,010 --> 02:38:41,340
granddad, where they let you
could actually go download

2691
02:38:41,340 --> 02:38:44,970
things. Yes, you could. Yes, you
could. And you can print

2692
02:38:44,970 --> 02:38:47,520
whatever you wanted, you could
just set up, you could just set

2693
02:38:47,520 --> 02:38:50,640
up a website and put down any
type whatever you wanted without

2694
02:38:50,640 --> 02:38:51,510
a license.

2695
02:38:51,570 --> 02:38:58,140
And you could Yes, yes, exactly.
Well, another prediction coming

2696
02:38:58,140 --> 02:39:01,020
true, unfortunately, actually,
it's a double whammy. We've

2697
02:39:01,020 --> 02:39:04,620
talked about these trackers in
cars, and of course, also your

2698
02:39:04,620 --> 02:39:08,250
life trackers, your Fitbits and
your slave jewelry from Apple,

2699
02:39:08,250 --> 02:39:13,230
etc. This will become first
it'll be a good deal if if you

2700
02:39:13,230 --> 02:39:16,410
use it, because your insurance
company will give you a break on

2701
02:39:16,410 --> 02:39:19,740
your premium that eventually
will become the norm and you

2702
02:39:19,740 --> 02:39:23,040
will just be penalized if you
don't have some form of tracking

2703
02:39:23,070 --> 02:39:27,090
on your body or to do that with
cars right now. Right but check

2704
02:39:27,090 --> 02:39:33,690
this out. This is phase three of
the meaningful use program. I

2705
02:39:33,690 --> 02:39:37,950
received this from Scott one of
our producers, beholden to

2706
02:39:37,950 --> 02:39:42,360
physicians to prove they are
using computers and collecting

2707
02:39:42,360 --> 02:39:45,300
and sharing health data with
other health care providers and

2708
02:39:45,300 --> 02:39:52,290
patients and it must be 15% of
their patients that they do this

2709
02:39:52,320 --> 02:39:58,140
for and this includes Fitbits
etc. If they do not comply, they

2710
02:39:58,140 --> 02:40:04,560
will lose some of the Medicaid
reimbursements what's Yes? Yeah

2711
02:40:08,130 --> 02:40:08,790
Hmm.

2712
02:40:09,929 --> 02:40:11,099
Medicaid or Medicare,

2713
02:40:11,579 --> 02:40:12,299
Medicaid

2714
02:40:15,450 --> 02:40:19,770
so that's gonna stop a second,
which makes more sense it'd be

2715
02:40:19,800 --> 02:40:23,340
Medicare but if it's meant to be
double check I'm reading and I'm

2716
02:40:24,690 --> 02:40:27,030
and I'll tell you why it would
make more sense Medicare.

2717
02:40:27,570 --> 02:40:30,420
Right Medicare I'm sorry cut in
Medicare payments for services

2718
02:40:30,420 --> 02:40:32,880
rendered. I'm sorry, you're
right. I always get confused.

2719
02:40:32,880 --> 02:40:34,710
Maybe you should explain it to
me. What's the difference?

2720
02:40:35,010 --> 02:40:39,060
Medicare is health insurance.
Okay. And Medicaid is getting

2721
02:40:39,060 --> 02:40:41,580
paid is is welfare welfare.
Okay.

2722
02:40:41,700 --> 02:40:44,850
So this would be Medicare
payments. So that makes that

2723
02:40:44,850 --> 02:40:45,660
makes more sense.

2724
02:40:46,230 --> 02:40:49,350
didn't make sense because you
guys can't afford a fit. I

2725
02:40:49,350 --> 02:40:49,740
agree.

2726
02:40:49,770 --> 02:40:50,250
I agree.

2727
02:40:52,020 --> 02:40:55,230
obligated obligated to collect
data from at least 15% of their

2728
02:40:55,230 --> 02:40:58,140
patients or suffer a cut in
Medicare payments for services

2729
02:40:58,140 --> 02:41:02,490
rendered. And this is the
meaningful use program

2730
02:41:05,640 --> 02:41:07,980
Wow, well, that's interesting.
And that means you what that

2731
02:41:07,980 --> 02:41:10,950
means of course 15% today Yeah.

2732
02:41:11,760 --> 02:41:15,090
Then there's that part of it.
Yeah. But think about how smart

2733
02:41:15,090 --> 02:41:15,810
Apple is.

2734
02:41:17,340 --> 02:41:19,260
Oh, to jump in. Oh, yeah.

2735
02:41:19,560 --> 02:41:21,150
It may have jumped in
prematurely.

2736
02:41:22,290 --> 02:41:25,110
I think this has to this has to
be implemented but well upon

2737
02:41:25,110 --> 02:41:25,710
Soheil

2738
02:41:25,710 --> 02:41:26,280
apples.

2739
02:41:28,170 --> 02:41:30,900
Good work everybody. Heil. Heil.
Yes. Very nice.

2740
02:41:34,860 --> 02:41:37,620
Ah, well, the Fitbit guys are
where the smart money's gonna

2741
02:41:37,620 --> 02:41:41,790
be. I mean, people Apple do have
their device but the Fitbit

2742
02:41:41,790 --> 02:41:45,120
which is cheap. They have been
Costco really? It? Yeah. Is

2743
02:41:45,120 --> 02:41:50,040
where the money is. We'll see.
Well, no, no, the Apple thing is

2744
02:41:50,070 --> 02:41:52,230
still up for up in the air.

2745
02:41:52,260 --> 02:41:54,660
I've the death knell of the
company if you ask me.

2746
02:41:55,710 --> 02:41:59,310
Well, my thinking because I know
Apple is a great short and I

2747
02:41:59,310 --> 02:42:03,240
don't want to give stock tips or
any ideas to anybody. But my

2748
02:42:03,240 --> 02:42:05,820
thinking is always well, when's
it gonna top Wednesday Apple,

2749
02:42:05,820 --> 02:42:07,560
you know, it's gonna go up and
down. It's gonna go download,

2750
02:42:07,560 --> 02:42:10,110
right? It's gonna collapse, it's
not going to collapse. My

2751
02:42:10,110 --> 02:42:16,950
thinking is when the first Apple
store closes. That's when you

2752
02:42:16,950 --> 02:42:23,250
start looking at it. Right now
they're still opening more. When

2753
02:42:23,250 --> 02:42:26,100
the first one closes. I don't
mean like the one in Palo Alto

2754
02:42:26,100 --> 02:42:29,400
that close so they could build
another one down the block like

2755
02:42:29,520 --> 02:42:30,180
Kyiv

2756
02:42:31,770 --> 02:42:33,480
Yeah, same thing Apple store key
of

2757
02:42:33,900 --> 02:42:40,650
when? Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, okay.
What else you got?

2758
02:42:41,130 --> 02:42:45,270
I didn't know I have a bunch of
tech news things but really not

2759
02:42:45,270 --> 02:42:49,530
anything like super tech news,
geeky stuff. Like I have some

2760
02:42:49,530 --> 02:42:51,690
geeky stuff you have tech news
and we can do we can do

2761
02:42:51,750 --> 02:42:54,420
I don't have tech news. Okay,
that let's just have me just

2762
02:42:54,630 --> 02:42:57,450
through a couple of these. I
have a couple of things I get a

2763
02:42:57,450 --> 02:43:00,240
sexual assaults up or down. No,
no,

2764
02:43:00,270 --> 02:43:01,890
no, no, no, I

2765
02:43:01,890 --> 02:43:02,700
don't want it does.

2766
02:43:03,750 --> 02:43:05,280
You wanna play Melissa Meyer
again?

2767
02:43:06,660 --> 02:43:08,760
No, at the end of the show, I'll
play it.

2768
02:43:09,360 --> 02:43:12,990
Okay, also I've got Nike BS This
is good. This would crack me up

2769
02:43:12,990 --> 02:43:15,510
because you know they're trying
to push down to everyone's

2770
02:43:15,510 --> 02:43:18,000
throat this I don't know why
they keep in this TPP whatever

2771
02:43:18,000 --> 02:43:21,060
this Trans Pacific Partnership
why they keeping everything is

2772
02:43:21,060 --> 02:43:24,150
secret. Do you have any clue on
this?

2773
02:43:24,150 --> 02:43:26,100
Because it's not agreed to yet
because they're still in

2774
02:43:26,100 --> 02:43:28,620
conversation. This isn't nothing
has been agreed to?

2775
02:43:28,650 --> 02:43:31,650
Well, why can't it just be open
for people to look at? What

2776
02:43:31,650 --> 02:43:32,640
differences? Well,

2777
02:43:32,670 --> 02:43:35,760
everyone has it? They keep
leaking the draft documents.

2778
02:43:35,760 --> 02:43:37,140
It's not like it's just not a
no,

2779
02:43:37,350 --> 02:43:39,270
no, I play the Nike BS and TPP.

2780
02:43:39,300 --> 02:43:42,900
Footwear giant Nike has
announced it will create 10,000

2781
02:43:42,900 --> 02:43:46,200
jobs in the United States if the
controversial Trans Pacific

2782
02:43:46,200 --> 02:43:50,730
Partnership trade deal or TPP is
approved. The 12 nation pact

2783
02:43:50,730 --> 02:43:53,790
would encompass 40% of the
global economy and is being

2784
02:43:53,790 --> 02:43:57,870
negotiated and secret. Critics
say the deal would hurt workers

2785
02:43:57,870 --> 02:44:02,070
undermine regulations and expand
corporate power. Nike says the

2786
02:44:02,070 --> 02:44:05,010
agreement would allow it to
invest in us space production.

2787
02:44:05,190 --> 02:44:08,190
The announcement coincides with
President Obama's visit today to

2788
02:44:08,190 --> 02:44:10,470
Nike Headquarters in Oregon.

2789
02:44:11,340 --> 02:44:15,240
Mom is all in on this and yes
meeting with with Phil the guy

2790
02:44:15,240 --> 02:44:20,460
runs Nike and what how does this
make any logical sense? The

2791
02:44:20,460 --> 02:44:22,920
Trans Pacific Partnership why
would it make it so all of a

2792
02:44:22,920 --> 02:44:26,940
sudden out of the blue when he
could never do it before night

2793
02:44:26,970 --> 02:44:32,430
the guy who runs the place can
now open up shop here in the US

2794
02:44:32,430 --> 02:44:36,930
of A and hired 10,000 people
well this slave labor I mean

2795
02:44:36,930 --> 02:44:37,560
doesn't make sense.

2796
02:44:37,590 --> 02:44:41,280
try and explain the pros and
cons are very simple. This we

2797
02:44:41,280 --> 02:44:44,010
have we do not have a free trade
agreement which means that

2798
02:44:44,010 --> 02:44:47,760
certain products I know candles,
if you want to import candles

2799
02:44:47,760 --> 02:44:52,680
from Europe does some crazy or
at least what 1.2 is 40% import

2800
02:44:52,680 --> 02:44:53,070
tax and

2801
02:44:53,070 --> 02:44:57,360
there's a lot of second Are you
telling me that those candles

2802
02:44:57,360 --> 02:45:01,980
around your bath W using so many
of Have you had to look into

2803
02:45:01,980 --> 02:45:04,350
this to find out that importing
candles, you're going to import

2804
02:45:04,350 --> 02:45:05,490
them? Is that what it was? No,

2805
02:45:05,790 --> 02:45:10,530
no, I'm going back to 1989 when
I when I when my first wife was

2806
02:45:10,530 --> 02:45:13,590
putting candles around the
bathtub, and I said, Wow, that's

2807
02:45:13,590 --> 02:45:16,380
really expensive. And just yet
candles are expensive here

2808
02:45:16,380 --> 02:45:20,040
versus Europe where they're very
cheap. Then I said, Well, maybe

2809
02:45:20,040 --> 02:45:22,530
we should import candles for
business until I found out that

2810
02:45:22,530 --> 02:45:24,840
there was huge import duties
taxes on,

2811
02:45:25,050 --> 02:45:26,460
you may continue. Okay, thank

2812
02:45:26,460 --> 02:45:31,890
you. So there's all kinds of
restrictions also, of course, on

2813
02:45:32,460 --> 02:45:35,880
petroleum products, all kinds of
reasons to do this. But of

2814
02:45:35,880 --> 02:45:39,450
course, what your what what the
naysayers the counterpart just

2815
02:45:39,450 --> 02:45:42,270
saying, Well, this is no good
because then we will all have to

2816
02:45:42,270 --> 02:45:47,940
adhere to trade practices and
employment laws. That will be

2817
02:45:49,020 --> 02:45:53,160
you know, slave like, because
that's how we roll here. Yeah,

2818
02:45:53,160 --> 02:45:57,900
we got another but slaves. And I
obviously this this is truly

2819
02:45:57,900 --> 02:46:00,270
what Abbott's buddy, they're
saying, This is how you create

2820
02:46:00,270 --> 02:46:05,790
the new world order be a huge
coming together of Europe or the

2821
02:46:05,790 --> 02:46:09,930
EU of the United States, Japan
will will be in on it. You know,

2822
02:46:09,990 --> 02:46:12,090
so there's, there's two
documents, obviously, you know,

2823
02:46:12,090 --> 02:46:16,500
the we have the TTIP in the TPP.
But he once he gets the TSA, the

2824
02:46:16,500 --> 02:46:20,190
two of the fast track authority,
TPA, whatever it's called, then

2825
02:46:20,220 --> 02:46:22,860
then the President go ahead and
just and move forward with it. I

2826
02:46:22,860 --> 02:46:25,260
would like it to all move
forward very quickly, please get

2827
02:46:25,260 --> 02:46:29,160
it over with rip the band aid
off expose everybody so we can

2828
02:46:29,160 --> 02:46:32,400
see what's really going on. And
then maybe people get pissed off

2829
02:46:32,400 --> 02:46:34,410
enough to do something about it.
Ah,

2830
02:46:36,570 --> 02:46:40,260
not gonna get pissed off about
anything. So I'm using the word

2831
02:46:40,260 --> 02:46:40,890
thug.

2832
02:46:42,990 --> 02:46:46,560
Exactly. All right, then I'll do
my little by little tech bits.

2833
02:46:47,430 --> 02:46:52,920
Maybe not. Unintended
Consequences of technology. You

2834
02:46:52,920 --> 02:46:59,130
know if we discuss that, that
Google's or ways this and Google

2835
02:46:59,130 --> 02:47:01,770
as well, I presume that
redirects traffic around

2836
02:47:01,770 --> 02:47:04,650
backstreets that now in Los
Angeles, this is becoming a

2837
02:47:04,650 --> 02:47:08,400
problem people in the in the
hills and other places where was

2838
02:47:08,400 --> 02:47:11,130
always quiet and now we've got
cars rushing through their

2839
02:47:11,130 --> 02:47:15,240
streets during rush hour, and
everyone's pissed off about it.

2840
02:47:15,240 --> 02:47:18,900
And they actually want to ask
Google to you know, to change

2841
02:47:18,900 --> 02:47:21,240
the recommendation the
recommended routes during

2842
02:47:21,270 --> 02:47:23,310
certain hours so that don't
route it through people's

2843
02:47:23,310 --> 02:47:31,500
neighborhood. Please. US
military, starting with Fort

2844
02:47:31,770 --> 02:47:34,950
cuatro, ah, that how you
pronounce it, who have no idea

2845
02:47:34,980 --> 02:47:40,650
in Arizona? No longer will be
teaching Morse code. Oh, well,

2846
02:47:40,650 --> 02:47:43,080
this is good. It'll become
encrypted technology.

2847
02:47:45,150 --> 02:47:47,580
The as it gets, it's like
speaking Navajo. Yeah.

2848
02:47:48,480 --> 02:47:52,830
And some other ham radio, ham
radio Salat, has satellite

2849
02:47:52,830 --> 02:47:56,370
launch. That's a transponder
with PSK 31. I'm actually kind

2850
02:47:56,370 --> 02:47:56,910
of excited

2851
02:47:56,910 --> 02:47:57,690
about that.

2852
02:47:58,710 --> 02:48:00,870
So I can communicate later.
Yeah, I can communicate

2853
02:48:00,870 --> 02:48:05,340
digitally through this through
the satellite. And anyone within

2854
02:48:05,370 --> 02:48:07,920
you know, within sight of the
satellite can then receive it, I

2855
02:48:07,920 --> 02:48:08,640
think is what should be

2856
02:48:08,640 --> 02:48:10,860
half the half the hemisphere.
Yeah.

2857
02:48:12,300 --> 02:48:14,580
I think it's kind of cool. Yeah,

2858
02:48:14,670 --> 02:48:16,080
I should get back on the stick.

2859
02:48:16,530 --> 02:48:20,970
You know, I've had my D star
radio on almost every single day

2860
02:48:20,970 --> 02:48:25,650
on channel 33. Well, it's been
months since I heard anyone on

2861
02:48:25,650 --> 02:48:29,100
there months. Nobody cares.

2862
02:48:29,520 --> 02:48:34,770
Well, I'll go on. I keep my D
star in the car. Really? Just in

2863
02:48:34,770 --> 02:48:35,910
case of emergency. The question

2864
02:48:35,910 --> 02:48:38,310
is, do you have it in a Faraday
bag?

2865
02:48:40,290 --> 02:48:45,000
No, I don't you should consider
it a point you should consider.

2866
02:48:45,450 --> 02:48:50,370
I think I'll make my glove box a
Faraday cage. That would work.

2867
02:48:50,670 --> 02:48:54,480
Producers worldwide. Please
think of us at dvorak.org/na

2868
02:48:56,970 --> 02:48:59,400
and you know when you have those
transponders for the bridge,

2869
02:48:59,400 --> 02:49:02,910
they follow you around all over
the San Francisco apparently

2870
02:49:02,910 --> 02:49:07,860
just tracks you. You need a
Faraday thing or aluminum foil

2871
02:49:07,860 --> 02:49:08,460
works you do.

2872
02:49:10,620 --> 02:49:17,070
Thursday we will be added once
again. And you never know what

2873
02:49:17,070 --> 02:49:20,610
will discover Oh, yes. Very
important. Today all the

2874
02:49:20,610 --> 02:49:26,010
Fletcher fest shouts are in the
show notes. And on Thursday, we

2875
02:49:26,010 --> 02:49:30,810
shall be knighting hair Fletcher
for his great work.

2876
02:49:32,730 --> 02:49:36,060
Does he ever Fletcher such
shout? Yeah, somewhere we've got

2877
02:49:36,060 --> 02:49:38,010
that I'm sure that he's that he
shouts his name?

2878
02:49:38,040 --> 02:49:42,150
I think so. I think so. And
several other things. Coming

2879
02:49:42,150 --> 02:49:44,460
here from FEMA Region six here
in the capital the drone star

2880
02:49:44,460 --> 02:49:47,430
states crackpot condo, downtown
Austin The Morning everybody.

2881
02:49:47,430 --> 02:49:48,240
I'm Adam curry,

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and from Northern Silicon Valley
where as I look out, I see that

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the traffic for some unknown
reason on a Sunday, around noon

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is backed up. I don't know why
I'm Johnson C Dvorak

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will be back on Thursday right
here on no agenda.

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Amen fist bump

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Yeah, I can't. I was really
grateful as I watched my career,

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and my compliment of being funny
flashed before my eyes, but you

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had a sense of humor in that
moment. How important is a sense

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of humor as an executive? So
ladies and gentlemen, that is

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how Google works. In a real life
example of inciting debate has

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been such an honor so when are
you applying to work? Amen. Fist

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bump, adios mopho.org/n

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A