the entire US Navy's running on XP. Adam curry, John C. Dvorak.
Thursday, June 25 2015. time once again for your Gitmo nation
media assassination episode seven, three.
This is no agenda,
celebrating 100% New Zealand products and broadcasting live
from FEMA Regency here in the capital to drone Star State
Austin. Austin the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry and
from Northern
Silicon Valley where it looks like we're gonna have a
scorcher, which is rare because it's summer. I'm John C. Dvorak
skill.
All right, how's the printer cleaning cycle? As just cleaning
away? I don't know what it's up to. Will this hamper the show in
any way? Well, I
don't have my clip list. Who I met you look at it on the email.
But that's not the same. That what I'm used to it's not my
regimen. And will should we be concerned? No, we shouldn't be
concerned. I can remember most of the clips.
Hey, have you ever seen Oprah right? Excuse me. You've seen
Oprah Show, right? Obviously, you know, Oprah you know where
Oprah? I know she still does it. The the Oprah book club. Yeah.
Where when she mentions a book on the show. It's sold out
everywhere. Yeah, that's what she does. Yeah. Well, we John,
you and I are the sold out a book. We are the Oprah of dryer
balls. I gotta tell you can't find a dryer ball on Amazon or
eBay anywhere.
Oh, Etsy. I don't know about Etsy. That's where I got mine.
But this thing has gone viral. Man. Man,
dryer balls the way to go. Balls are viral.
I got my dryer balls. Did you get get yours?
No, I have not gotten my dryer balls yet. I sorted a special
pack of three small balls and three large balls. Okay,
well, I got a sack of six balls. And these are interesting
enough. These are 100% in
a stack of six ball. I do.
I do. And it's funny you say that? Because the instructions
tell me how to use these but let us do some a little legacy. The
genesis of of the dryer balls. Were by pure coincidence. John
found out that I was using dryer sheets and was appalled that
you were using dryer sheets. That's the coincidence. Right?
Yeah. So you started coincidence? You made a
statement? And then I Okay.
All right. We were talking about something else. And then
coincidentally, we can we happened upon the dryer sheets.
My use of them?
I'm trying to think how that came about you were
I was talking about I was talking about? Well, no, no, no.
I was talking about lint. Lint Titus. Oh, right. You had lint
Titus? Yes. The urge to pull off the lint from the dryer filter
in one piece. Yeah. And then you and I said then you you mop up
the rest being Tourettes? Yeah, you gotta beach reds connected.
You mop
up the rest of the little fragments with your dryer sheet
and John went
but didn't do that. But I said what? You use dryer sheets and
what you use dryer sheets and then that's where it began?
Yes. And then you sent me an email a follow up a private
email not even related to the show just because you love me
and said Hey, man, here's what's in these dryer sheets has all
kinds of chemicals that are even on the was the EPA is dangerous
list or?
Yeah, yeah. And make them a joke in the email was these are the
kinds of things you want to wash out of your clothes? Yes. Oh, I
laughed so hard.
But it was very, very, very funny. And so then we stumbled
upon a an alternative, which is these dryer balls. So let me
read from the instructions. How do smart cheap dryer balls work?
Wool dryer balls work by bouncing around in your dryer
lifting and separating clothing and increasing hot airflow. They
cut down drying time which saves you money on energy costs. Why
are wool dryer balls better than fabric sheets? fabric sheets use
harsh chemicals to off to soften clothing which are toxic to the
environment not to mention to humans. Wool dryer balls are a
nature friendly alternative. Our dryer balls are handmade in
Nepal with 100% New Zealand wool and the instructions is
obviously turn on dryer. Insert dryer balls. Watch your clothes
dry faster while your clothes get softer. The more balls you
use, the faster they will dry and then this Are you ready? Are
you working on the printer?
I'm aghast actually what you've read. Oh, my dryer balls came
from a woman that has her own sheep in the United States. Oh,
nice. Importing my dry balls from Nepal.
You have foreign balls.
No, you have foreign ball. I
have foreign balls. Yeah, you gotta you gotta Merkin balls.
Exactly.
Now, did you know that if you want to medium load, you should
use three to four balls.
I didn't know that for larger loads.
Use five to six balls.
I think he did. I think it was overdue. What do you need that
that man Any for the thing must be making a racket and
never have too many balls.
Well, there's Have you tried these things instead of getting
the joke here,
which is fine writes things. Yeah, they're good. It works.
How many balls did you use?
Well, I only had only required a medium load. So I use three
balls. Okay, but I'm going to try a medium load with load up
on my balls.
Now are these balls like tennis balls?
They're exactly like tennis balls. I think this is fake. I
think you got ripped off because a tennis ball
there you go. Well, when I get my real ones from the merican
American balls or own sheep, I will report back I feel that
Eric de
shield has a unique opportunity. I know he closed no agenda
nation the store. But can you imagine no agenda dryer balls,
come on, this is a hit. I'm telling you, someone's going to
go to town and we're going to be sitting here once again going.
That's okay, we're we've always allowed people to do that. T
shirts, if people experiment, we need
to get in on our own on the action from time to time. Well,
that's what we've decided. It's probably not our forte.
Okay, you're clearly distracted by your printer cleaning its
heads.
Now, I had to reset it in the meantime. So I can't, I'm never
going to be able to print out the clips, I'm gonna have to go
load them onto the screen,
I have an idea. Hold on, let me do something for you. Okay, I'm
going to take a screenshot here of the clipless. Check this up.
This will be great. And I'm going to crop it and we go,
boom. And I'm going to zoom it nice, save, and I'm going to
send this to you on Skype and then you will be
it'd be one whole complete, they won't have to have three because
I sent it as three.
It'll be one complete. Okay, now you'll love this. Watch this.
Watch what I did, right? And I will say okay, accept, accept
accept me get anything that's coming. There it is. You know,
you
don't accept anymore. Oh, really. They've changed it?
Well, that's how you get a image on the screen with a down arrow.
And without anybody telling you to do anything, you have to
somehow know psychically to click on that down arrow. I see
a lot of people look at the down arrow and say, well, there's
something down here below I don't, because that's what it
looks like. It doesn't look like it means download. But that's
what it is. So this is the new that. So it doesn't say accept
or anything. It's just complete crap. So this is a file is a
Ping was incorrect. Extension.
This is a program that is financed and sponsored and dare
I say, produced entirely by the audience on like, mainstream
media, but even you know, it's a good list. There's a native ad
that popped up, which was it wasn't even so native because it
has a big payoff at the end. And I was our it's our friend, Bill
Nye this the climate guy. Oh, and he has this he has something
called a emoji. Emoji science.
Emoji science.
Wow, that guy's well listen to it and then listen to the
payoff. And you can see who's really behind all this green
initiative. Hey, Bill
Nighy here for the emoji science lab. This episode, climate
change. Climate change is a real deal, everybody. If we had some
extraordinary car on some extraordinary highway and we
Stopstopstop claim it's a real deal. And here's why. And now
Now this is now what he's going to follow with is the reason
yeah, with imaginary cars, and imaginary highways. Now, this is
for the kids, John, this is for the kids. And this is how
they're being indoctrinated by the funny man with the bow tie.
I'm a clown. Everybody went man
is a real deal, everybody. And here's why. If we had some
extraordinary car on some extraordinary highway, and we
could drive somehow straight up for an hour at highway speed,
we'd be in outer space. It's right there must be really,
really thin. Now back in 1750, there were about one and a half
billion people in the world. Today, there's 7.2 going on 7.3
billion people.
The people are the problem killing us the problem. There's
billions. Yeah, kill him.
The problem burning the same atmosphere back in 1750 when
James Wan created the first workable steam engine at about
250 parts per million of carbon dioxide here anymore. This guy
didn't take it to the payoff, man. It's worth it. Who do you
think is sponsoring this emoji sign show?
Chevron close atmospheric carbon
dioxide is good and holds in heat keeps our Earth toasty and
warm for us humans. Good now They're over 400 parts per
million. Is the rate that we're changing thing that's causing
all this trouble? Climate is changing. And it's because you
and I are living here. What should we do?
What should we do kill ourselves? Yeah, please.
Let's get to work. Let's use electricity, you can generate
renewable energy from wind and solar wind. The key is we have
to move it around the world through cool new transmission
lines that someone's gonna invent and develop and fund and
distribute. And then, if we had a better battery or better
system, a better better school of electrical energy storage, we
can change the world. Thanks for visiting GE emoji science lab to
learn more
GE makers of gas turbines, Ge Ge, you believe the gall? Gall?
Well, you know, I didn't want to start yet another show with this
topic. But since you did unavoidable, it's very you can
move it deeper into the show. But let's play the Dutch court
on global warming so we get a little feeling for what's going
on in Holland. A Dutch
court ruled today that the Netherlands must cut greenhouse
gas emissions to climate ruling ordered reductions of at least
25% below 1990 levels by 2020 environmental activist said the
case lays the legal groundwork for similar action in other
countries,
you will obey this is exactly what it is. This is how the
European Union works. They have set their goals and which are
they're much they're higher than you think. I had I had a clip
about the Dutch right? Well, I
have another clip. Okay. All right. Which is this just a
casual clip just show you how I apparently how all in there. Now
I'm gonna this is a clip that's gonna be kind of like an Afghan
because I have to ask you if the assertions made in this clip are
true at all, this isn't the Netherlands and its future.
The country is bounded by the North Sea, where there are no
natural dunes to keep the sea out. The Dutch have had to build
mighty walls or dikes to protect their farms and communities.
Roughly half the people and half the land here in the Netherlands
are below sea level. And for 700 years the Dutch have developed
their expertise at keeping this country dry. It's a constant
battle. And now with climate change and rising sea levels of
reality, the work is now and more expensive. Even with
impressive dikes already in place, the Dutch are moving
mountains of sand and mud to fortify their dikes and protect
their next generation. Famous for both their frugality and
their foresight, the Dutch are investing billions of euros as
climate change makes its costly impact felt on sea level
communities here and around the globe. Well, yes. Is
that right? Are they are the communities in danger level
communities in peril in danger? Are they all getting flooded?
What's going on?
Tell us I will tell you in 1952, there was a huge disaster in the
Netherlands. Then the dikes broke. And it was really after
this in 1952 that the Delta Works were started. And this has
ended the Dutch without doubt have a lot of experience with
water. But of course, the Netherlands The name says it
really wasn't a country. It didn't exist. So they they
dredged it out and they created a country which is with with a
dike system. That's why they have windmills of Amsterdam the
entire city is built on piles with a poles What do you call
them in English? You know the polls? Yeah, exactly. You stick
a shovel anywhere in the Netherlands in the ground,
you're gonna get water within a foot or two. But the Netherlands
belongs to the sea. So
when is it worse? Is it worsening? Because it sounds to
me that it's worsening? No. Sounds like is it just
borderline it's gonna want it out?
We're all gonna die. No.
That's what he said.
I know. I know. It's just not happening.
So everybody's reading. They're all sitting around, wringing
their hands every day. People
sit around in circles a Dutch birthday parties fretting about
the one
at anyway. I mean, just in general. You're gonna get that's
just feeding the American public a bunch of bullcrap. Yeah. Is
that what you're implying? Yes.
It's also a fun way to say Dyk a lot. And the solution of course,
to your dikes is your dryer balls. Here is my report on I
think this has a little more EU information in
a Dutch court has ordered its own government to reduce
greenhouse gas emissions at a faster rate than it's planning
to do. A judge in The Hague said that in five years time, Dutch
emissions had to be 25% lower than 1990 levels. The government
plans cuts of only 14 to 17% campaigners are behalf of
hundreds of Dutch citizens abroad the case hundreds be the
world's first climate liability suit. The rule is that the
country had to take a lead and couldn't hide behind arguments
that an international response was needed. But it's not clear
how the decision will be enforced and the government can
appeal. The EU has set a reduction target of 40% in
carbon emission 4030. A major global conference is due later
this year. 40%
sure that'll happen. Now, what happened in the past week, you
may not have heard about it because we were too busy burning
flags in America. We'll have to talk about a taken flags down
that's gonna solve racism, no flags, no racism. The EPA
released their big climate change strategy document, quite
lengthy. I haven't even gotten through it all myself, and EPA
boss, Gina McCarthy. She's the director of the Environmental
Protection Agency who has a lot of power to make rules that will
affect everyone's lives, went out on a tear, she was out on
promoting this thing and talking to everybody talking about it.
And I found Well, there was a summit the public health and
climate change summit. But before I play that, I'd like to
play it an appearance on CNN with our buddy Mikhail over
there. Talking about what the maybe I should ask you this by
2100. The year 2100. How many people if we don't act now? How
many people do you think John will die? from climate change?
Millions
well going to avoid the damages that otherwise would happen if
we continue to have our heads in the sand?
Okay, so heads in the sand, you probably get a chance to make
this argument all the time dinner parties at the bus stop
and cetera, et cetera. So I'm going to give you what does that
mean?
You get to make this a dinner parties and the bus stop.
She she takes buses?
Somehow? I'll bet you Gina McCarthy has a security detail.
Yeah. Driving a gas guzzler buses
hands. How do you convince somebody who as you say, has
their head in the sand? Who says I don't buy it? I don't believe
this, I think is just a bunch of tripe rhetoric trying to
convince somebody who says no, climate change isn't how we're
making it out to be.
Well, Mikayla, you'd be surprised. But most of the
people that I meet on the streets ask us why we're not
doing more.
But she out on the street meeting people while she's
waiting at the bus stop not
meeting anyone. While she's waiting. It's a treat this day,
buddy. What do you think, Oh, you're not doing enough.
Business communities come for when businesses come and say why
isn't government doing? Okay, fair
enough? What about the critics? Because there
was they are vocal the critics of vocal who are deniers, but
people really want bear that in mind, the deniers we'll be
talking about that later government to provide the
leadership we were brought here to provide, which is to keep
them safe and healthy, and to hand the world to our children
in a shape that we can, that we can be proud of. Climate change
is not a belief system. It is a fact. This is science. Right? So
EPA is putting the science on the table, we're providing all
the information. And we're showing that in fact, back if
you actually take action today, you will save significant lives.
How many jobs have you said millions? Millions, right?
Millions
1000s of lives every year
1000s 1000s of lives,
the trouble you are going to save precious resources that we
all care about. You're going to address issues of extreme
drought, you're going to reduce the amount of acreage that's
destroyed by wildfires. And this is an important issue that we
all need to embrace. It's not political. What?
How is acreage destroyed by wildfires? I have an acre. Are
you questioning things citizen and there is a bunch of weeds on
it. And then all of a sudden it goes into his part of a
wildfire. How is the acre gone?
Well, that's a good point. Yeah, your acres not Well, no, it's
not gone. It's
fire is usually what it is. I mean, there is instances where a
wildfire is is a forest. But again, the acreage is still
there.
I'm with you, brother. I'm with you, Brother, brother. I'm with
you, brother.
It's not political. It's science. And we can do this. We
always have
Gina McCarthy, thank you so much. We should let you know at
home that CNN is taking a look at the difference just two
degrees Celsius could make and changing the world we live in
and how we can prevent a global catastrophe before it happens.
You can turn off already. Science and
CNN. They have this new Digital Studios division where they're
making native advertising. And this is one of them. They're
being paid. I don't have I don't have General Electric. I don't
have a receipt. Now. They're being paid by I buy the EPA.
Oh, the EPA has a budget now for promotion.
Yes. Huge. So they have the cnn.com/two degrees on just play
this.
This is just made up. Oh, yeah, well, it's too bad to make it 10
degrees and really frightened the public too bad.
We don't have don't have video, but you can even hear on the
sound effects of this short little promo reel that's on the
cnn.com/two degrees, which you won't see on television. This is
purely paid for by the United States government to propagate
the two degree mean two degrees
Celsius. It's probably the most important number you've never
heard of. Environmental Policy Experts say that temperature two
degrees Celsius or 3.6 Fahrenheit may be the edge of
the cliff for climate change. If global average temperatures were
more than that will greatly up the odds of new and worsening
climate. We need to hear this explosion
The Earth is exploding and burning this danger signs
flashing on the screen. They believe that mark
and we may be able to avoid some of the worst aspects of global
warming. Oh, thanks super droughts, mass extinctions in
extreme sea level rise, mass
extinctions, John mass extinction.
And extinction meme is a big deal. I saw that in a number of
shows that is all based more or less on what I talked about on
the last show, which is the guy that erlaubt guy from Stanford,
yeah, getting back in the game, because I guess he needs to get
a book out or he's running out of money. I'm not sure what the
point of it is. But it's something like that. coastal
cities,
they have the extreme sea level rise, and they show this the
Manhattan skyline with the water like halfway up the Empire State
Building.
Yeah, it's crazy. When we burn gas in our cars or coal in our
power plants,
we're notice, notice there's no natural gas discussed here
adding carbon
to the atmosphere and warming the planet. Scientists say the
Earth's surface temperature has warmed 0.85 degrees Celsius
since 1880. Industrial Revolution, if we want to slow
climate change, we're going to have to cut back and Fast, fast
zone
two degrees. This is why we have the new regulations for air
travels, it is not just going to cut back fast is going to cost
you
more Celsius, just a few decades. This simple little
anyway, you get the idea. Now let me just with that in mind
with the temperature in mind, let us go to the public health
and climate change summit. This was a White House summit was not
on C span. But I could only find that on YouTube three and a half
hours I sat through this crap. And finally there she was our
hero with her cape on her climate cape. Director of EPA,
Gina McCarthy. Here's how she starts her little ditty with a
of course you want to start with a little you know, little humor,
everybody. How's it going so far? Right? That was not a
resounding
that is the worst thing you can do. And when you're when you're
when you're on stage. Wait, God, isn't that the worst thing you
can do?
Well, it's insulting. Everyone's like, it's also insulting
whoever putting on the conference.
Yeah, that's what I mean. It's complex. Everybody. It's
a very insulting thing to say, Hey, everybody,
how's it going so far? Great. That was not a resounding wake
up. Now. Why go by demand you break your conditioning? I know.
It's I just want to let you know do not go outside. It's very
bad. So you're lucky that you're in here. It's toasty outside. I
wonder what that could be all about? What why?
Oh, she's a riot. What I wonder what that could be all about.
We'll be here all the week. What?
So the crowd is obviously slanted. Now we heard the 1000s
of people number. And I really like this. I only have two clips
from her from this three and a half hours with panels and all
kinds of bronies. But she's going to give us an exact number
of how many people how many 1000s of people are like that.
Yeah. So
take a look at that. If the only thing your friend cares about is
fishing, if they like coldwater trout, tell him to read section.
I don't know what in the report.
She doesn't even know what the section is. They'll find
themselves there. Yeah, if they care about saving 57,000 people
who will actually die prematurely in the year 2100
alone in the United States. If we don't take global climate
action, then have them read the whole report.
No. So what I'm hearing her say is if we do not take action,
immediate action,
always has to be immediate 57,000
People will die prematurely because of course, you know, we
all die prematurely by the year 2100. I mean, we could die
there's it's almost as many people died from automobile
accidents.
Now, automobiles 4040 to 50. It's almost almost almost almost
reversed. It's More than Pinoy
Yeah, well, almost can't. You're picky today can almost you said
is almost all HoH is almost more than No, almost could if it was
less than it'd be less than or almost if it's more than it's
more than or almost I'm sorry, you're Yes. Almost means it's in
the neighborhood not plus or minus
oh most means is less than Oh really? Yes. Okay.
Because it's not just about public health in one section.
It's about being able to take action today to save 12,000
people that will be dying from extreme heat. You can believe it
today if you go outside
when there used to always say whether it's not climate, now
she's claiming on a hot day. Use that as an example.
No proof, proof proof that 12,000 people a month will die.
You're talking
about people if they're worried about wildfires, we're going to
have 64% more acres burning every single year.
Let's write this down John for the year 2100. So we can check
the exact city of 64%
He's good in the year 2100 If we don't do something about it, but
what is it really about Gina? If we do something about it today,
we can save acreage the size of Maryland?
Let's burn Maryland and said what are
you gonna save? The size of marriages? Save it? Save it from
what? I fell from burning heights coming up
acreage, the size of Maryland, Maryland? What do you want to
choose here, folks?
I would like
to Al Gore thing shows as Maryland's not that he's not
going to be the size of Maryland, floods come in half
the country is going to be underwater.
Yeah, we mock this because people make up their mind. It's
so mockable. And it's Does anyone not see that? This is
This is insanity to say 57,000 People from premature death.
Yeah, so maybe they died seven days insanity. Well, of course,
it's really about one thing.
So we are doing everything we can to engage the public where
they live, the things that they care about. Because we all know
that we all care about our kids future. We all care about our
own public health. But frankly, it's all about the kids.
Got their children. All right. And just did you just set the
whole thing? I've just run that clip?
No, no actually have the second clip is
alright. Okay, you're on a roll. I'm on a roll. I hope we don't
do this again.
What the Gina McCarthy thing? No,
this we ever did last five shows it'd be we started off with the
same topic. Like I said, You're on a roll, let's let's wrap
Let's go.
We will not only do it for you what you want your government to
deliver,
this is about it. She's talking to us, John, she's about to talk
to us what you
expect our government to deliver. But we will be able to
hold on to those deliverables because we will deliver. You're
going
for Silicon Valley. Now.
I think in this case, you just want to listen to what she's
saying.
Voice of all of the people, not just a minority, because when I
put a report out on on acting on climate like we did yesterday,
that shows how dramatically our world will change if we don't
act and just the benefits we can deliver. If we do I am doing
that not to push back on climate deniers. You can have fun doing
that if you want but I batted my head against the wall too many
times. And if the science already hasn't changed in mind,
it never will. But in any democracy, it's not them that
carries the day. It is normal human being.
You are not normal.
This is a hold. No keep questioning these computer model
you are not
normal. Wait, there's more
that have been put their stake in to politics above science,
science. It's normal human beings that want us to do the
right thing. And we will if you help us thank you very much.
Only normal people, not those crazies. Normal people. Normal.
Alright, then to wrap this up because I am going somewhere.
But I was blown away by Senator Ted Cruz. And Ben now these
facts need to be checked. But I liked what he said
big government energy mandates don't stop with ethanol. There
are tax credits for almost every form of energy, each designed to
give one industry a leg up over the other. There's enhanced oil
recovery credits for producing oil and gas from marginal wells.
There's an advanced nuclear power generation credit Clean
Coal investment credits.
Now at first I was thinking to myself, Okay, isn't he a
Republican? Isn't he supposed to, you know, to be all in on
big oil and big everything and not even supposed to promote
nuclear what's going on but confused? I'm confused. He must
have a point
and a credit for plug in electric and fuel cell vehicles.
And of course, the infamous wind production tax credit. Ah,
the infamous wind production tax credits. So infamous, not even
we've heard of it.
I've never heard of it. I didn't know it. Was it infamous? You'd
think you'd know about it?
Yeah. Well, we don't know about it. But he has the numbers are
Ted here.
A two year extension of wind credits alone cost taxpayers
more than $13 billion.
That seems like a lot of money.
30 We should get a generator.
So he's going to equate this to something which I found very
important.
Which is enough to pay the monthly electricity bills for
124 million Americans. How about putting that up for a
referendum? Do we continue to benefit one favorite industry?
Or we pay the electricity bill? For 104 120 4 million Americans?
You know what? I don't think that would be a close vote for
the American people.
I don't know. Let's take a vote. Would you like to have your
would you like to have wind power subsidies John, or no
electricity bill?
I'd love to own a wind farm now.
Yeah. Do you think that's true?
Of course, I mean, he's right. But I never heard of
this. Neither have I.
This is very interesting.
But if he if he uses this, if he uses that this is if it can't be
debunked by some fuzzy crap that he that he's based this on.
That's pretty strong. I like it. First time, Ted Cruz has said
something we didn't sound really icky. And I kind of liked what
he said.
But you know, looking at him either.
Now I looked at him when I did made the clip, believe me. But
you know, it's like everybody in politics is harsh to look at.
Chase. I've watched all of the films for hours the the OPM the
Office of Personnel,
you get I hope you get something out. I did. I did. Because I
watched it. And when there's nothing here, I can't get it.
I do watch the whole thing. You watch the whole thing? Of
course not. You already made it you were watching it, so I
didn't have to worry about it.
Okay, this is this is this will be interesting for our dudes
named Ben, we have a lot of people who are technologists,
some still tech horny, who listen to the program. And I
like what was going on here for a couple of reasons. One, there
were some fantastic memes that were brought in obviously all to
shepherd in more money for cybersecurity, and this is
really what it's all about. But I will say just just to give you
the a little bit of the severity, I asked some of our
producing friends who produced the show, do they now know
exactly what kind of information was on them that was in this and
this also goes to us is these are the guy that's the it's a
contractor USCIS who you'll hear about in a moment. They're the
ones that do all the background checks. They do it so well.
Remember the background check on the guy in the Navy Yard? Who
shut up?
Shut up to play Shut up the place. Yeah. Although he just
shouldn't be jumping around for the video.
So when you have a yeah, when when when you have a background
check performed on you all that data goes into the OPM database,
the Office of Personnel Management gotta be great. So
here is some of the things that have been exposed. I quote,
everywhere I've lived this is from one of our producers
everywhere. I've lived in most cases since the age of 18.
Credit history including account numbers, bank information,
including account numbers, names and addresses of our immediate
family members names and addresses of our closest
friends, landlord mortgage company account numbers and with
names and addresses criminal history, mental health or health
information if related to employment history, basic
information in question, which they people just had to justify
such as credit problems, unemployment periods, divorce
people they've lived with any foreigners they've associated
with. This is all the information that was exfiltrated
stolen, this that that's concerning. That's a lot of
information. You can use I could assume and I
have a lot of fun with that information. If you're a
criminal. You sure can.
Now everyone is lying. And there's there's three or four
different contractors on this panel all pointing at each other
via one is a security tool. And then we the USCIS who are under
investigation for fraud, which we'll get to in a moment. Then
we have this fabulous woman and Baron de Kamil, who is who works
for Department of Homeland Security for cert, which are the
cyber Emergency Response Team. Who do who do pretty good job I
think of, of notifying the technology world when something
is awry. But we'll start with a little Tete a Tete between
shavitz. We'd like shavitz. He's funny, the always and he really
set the Director of OPM up on this one. You know, if you if he
does that, well, he doesn't Yeah. And this one he had really
well set up. And he's going to bring in the CIO, who I think
they already got to it seems to be like, so the CIO is this
woman named Seymour. And she whenever her boss, I would say
her director said, no, no, there was nothing stolen. Nothing was
gone this but of course, she's she's using slippery language,
because what she means is no PII I was stolen personal
identifying information, even though it was so when you hear
PII, you know what it is, but just listen to shavitz, set her
up and then use her CIO or chief information officer to really
catch her in a huge lie.
Yes, there was a breach into our system. Did they? Was there any
information lost? as I've just said to you, there will be I
lost? That's not what I asked you. I asked, did they? Did you
lose any information? You'd have to ask the forensic team. I'm
asking you if any information was lost, I'll get back to you
with a answer, sir.
Lying much.
I believe you know the answer to this question.
Can you imagine sitting there and have this going on? My ass
would be sweaty. I feel really bad for this woman dog face.
Do you believe Iris knows?
She deserves it. Of course. He answered.
Yes. Did they take any information when they hacked
into the computers? I have been advised by my my, my CIO and our
forensic team that no PII was, that's not what I asked you. I
will take as long as you want here. I'm sorry. I did not ask
if they just exfiltrated PII, I'm asking you, did they take
any other information?
What would be relevant of information that was taken? If
there was John, would there be anything worth mentioning? If
you're the director, the director?
I don't know. Because I don't know what Chaffey is? Round or
what Chafee is doing? I don't know what he's trying to get out
of her. Well, here we go. I know he's setting her up. But I don't
know what because I haven't heard this. Are you gonna love
it?
I will get back. I know, you know the answer to this
question. Miss Seymour.
Did they show us the CIO? Seymour, take any
other information?
At the in the March 2014 incident? The adversaries did
not have access to data on our network. They did have access to
some documents. And they did take some documents from the
network.
Oh, documents, huh? All right, dudes name Ben, get ready to
laugh are those documents,
those documents were some outdated security documents
about our systems and some manuals about our systems.
Let me see. I've got some security information. Let me
store this on the system. That's where I'd store it. What kind
of manuals manuals about,
say storing your password in a file that says password?
X. Exactly. Servers and the environment? Is it
fair to say is that is that like a blueprint for the system?
It would be fair to say that that would give you enough
information that you could learn about the platform. The
infrastructure of our system? Yes.
But they did take information. Yes, sir. They did. Do you
believe it was a breach of security? Yes, sir. I do. So
Miss Archer letter when we rewind the tape and we're
looking at the W J. l a TV interview that you did on July
21. Here's
here's the dagger. It's up against her abdomen. He's about
to thrust that image.
You said again, we did not have a breach in security. There was
no information that was lost. I was false, wasn't it? I was
referring to PII. No, you weren't that wasn't the
question. That was not the question. You said, and I quote,
there was no information that was lost. Is that accurate or
inaccurate?
Now? Just so you know, he's talking about the march 5, march
2014. Breach as the first one. This the first one where what
they took were documents, outdated documents about the
password dot txt file. And nothing was done at that, at
that point about that breach.
The understanding that I had of that question at that time
referred to PID was misleading. It was a lie. It wasn't true.
When this plays out, we're gonna find that this was the step that
allowed them to come back and why we're in this mess today
and you will hang you will hang lady, so I think he did a good
job on that. He was completely set up. Then they pass the mic
around, you know, the talking stick, who gets to talk next and
then we bring in Walberg Republic. come from Michigan.
This is kind of a I like his voice is kind of an older type
dude. And he's the meme master
address, date of birth job and pay history, and more that could
be there. For years we've been hearing about the risk of a
cyber Pearl Harbor, is this a cyber Pearl Harbor?
Yeah, he's now he's talking to and Baron de Kamil, who is a
Silicon Valley up talker of epic proportions.
The impact associate with the data breach that was confirmed
the records that were taken out of the personnel records is what
we would call a severity scale, a significant impact,
significant impact. What is significant impact mean?
Meaning that the data, if it was correlated with other data
sources could be, you know, severely it could impact the
environment as well as the environment,
the environment, environment, meaning and the fact that
they were able to take the data out of the environment, that's a
significant impact to the environment and ensuring that
they are able to mitigate the the ability that the attacker
use to get into that environment. And then the fact
that data was expelled is also considered to be a high
significant.
Dixville John, you got to say x field, not exfiltrated. But x
field hacked so it's blown up blown out, it's blown up a lot
of things blown up. It protection security. It's a it's
a Pearl Harbor.
That's not a term I'm comfortable with using but given
the severity scale that we use, this is pretty significant.
Yeah, it would be medium to high significance.
I love that
it's a it's a Pearl Harbor.
It's a Pearl Harbor. Mr. President, it's it's a Pearl
Harbor so that that mean is back. But there's something else
going on here and Representative lieu of California.
What I'm doing some don't pay attention to me
well, then can you do it quietly?
I've come concerns not just about the
here's what's here's what's going on. This is not just about
cyber, there's there's a whole secondary agenda happening here.
Regarding U S is the guy who do the background checks, who went
bankrupt and then were acquired by another company who refuses
to let anyone see any of their information, even though they
are a government contractor. And all of those guys got huge
bonuses, the CEO got a million dollar bonus. While all of this
crap was going on.
I have concerns not just about the failures of OPM leadership,
but also the failures of its contractors, and particularly us
is because it looks like what happened here wasn't just
recklessness or negligence. It was fraud. And I want to know
how far up this fraud when I want to know if the parent
company knew about it, I want to know the hedge fund managers
that funded these companies knew about it. So let me begin with
Mr. MacFarlane. As you know, the Department of Justice joined a
lawsuit against USCIS in January for defrauding the government
under its contract with OPM. And according to the Justice
Department filing and I quote, beginning in at least March
2008, and continuing through at least September 2012. USCIS
management devise and executed a scheme to deliberately
circumvent contractually required quality reviews of
completed background investigations in order to
increase a company's revenues and profits. You assisted their
investigation this case, correct? That's correct. And as
I understand it, the parent company I'll Tegrity pay bonuses
to top executives at USCIS during the period of their fraud
that amounted to nearly $30 million in volunteer knowledge
USCIS or Ltd pay the government back for those bonuses.
I'm not positive but I believe not.
Let me in the record, Mr. Chairman, if possible, and an
article from The Wall Street Journal entitled Oh Tegrity
executives got payout before screener went
bankrupt Okay, so there's there's some secondary agendas
we have to move different because you know, this guy
doesn't give a crap about the public he just wants to get his
contractors in no doubt. This was of course the work of
Chinese hackers with this was this was stated as fact was a
notch on Chinese hackers that broken
that's it was you know, it was never officially said it was
almost like leaked as with the public at large the average
person that would be all in on global warming, as the other
woman pointed out is that average person would normal
versus them on the street. They would say Chinese hackers normal
person, a normal, or I'm sorry, normal person would think is
Chinese. Oh, yeah.
Well, let's get it right straight from the horse's mouth
then bore the basset hound as it were these people frontline
services Micah,
overseas, and they're representing us and there was I
could hear concern in their voice about what's been what,
what has taken place. that I've read. Is it Chinese hackers?
Does anyone know? Is it Chinese? Do we know for sure?
Do you know for sure?
That's classified information, sir?
Oh, I guess it's not so sure. Then why would it be classified?
If everyone already knows that it's the Chinese?
Would it be classified American you
have had you asked me I have no idea. I think it's a lie.
It's a lie. To lie.
Alright, the final clip this is, this is something that dudes
named Ben will will enjoy. Of course, when you when you are
tracking things for security, your friend is your log files.
So you can see who logged in what they did, where they're
roaming around, you have probably a little more than just
your typical D message, log file, but some real log files.
Let's go to the Silicon Valley Girl and Burundi. Camilla, from
Department of Homeland Security. And let's see, Why could they
not figure out who had broken in and why they broke into the
system in the March 2014? Breach? And
yes, so our team was on site. It was an interagency response
team, including our law enforcement partners. We weren't
just part of the incident response team. What we do is
we're working with the system administrators and daily
were lovers. It's a managers butter, the emergency response
team here informing them every day at the end of the day. At
the end of this, did
you inform them on a daily basis?
We were there for about two weeks. And
I by the way, she she's knows her shit don't stink, then it's
probably she's probably really right on the money. But she's
giving us information, which is abhorrent to go back and get the
specific
timeframe. So that's at least 10 reports that you've given that
we've worked through the weekend, ma'am. through the
week. Oh, my
God, they work through the weekend, John,
slowly crapping work through the weekend, ma'am.
Yeah, this you get a little star on her forehead. It's
14 reports that they were given, asserting what their? What the
daily findings, and they can change. So that's why we did you
find
something? And did you give them ideas about what needed to be
done?
Yes, we were able to discover that there was malicious malware
present on the network, that there was compromised
credentials, specifically, then how
did that happen? How did those compromised credentials, what
were the two areas that you found within their own system
that should have been taken care of previously,
and we found a lack of some security mechanisms that would
have helped prevent this kind of intrusion. But because of the
lack of logging, we weren't able to find the initial point of
entry,
lack of logging, they couldn't find the initial point of entry
due to lack of logging. This is the most basic log there is lack
of logging? Oh, well, let's dive into it, shall we?
And we were able to find activity talking
about the lack of logging. What is that? Good question. Um,
there's
a number of types of logs that we look at forensically that can
help us piece together a picture of what's happened within your
network, and why weren't those there? So there's a number of
reasons it's a risk decision, a risk based decision, it can cost
a lot of money.
And a cost decision made by the company itself. It can be
because it can require quite a bit of storage. So she was some
of the
government contractors we hired to do government work full
decided,
Hey, man, they don't want to pay for storage
by 1.5. Or five, I'm sorry, five terabyte drive now at Costco for
140 bucks. Yeah, rolling terabytes of the logs gonna be
Well, let's find where us decided that a risk and assess
and a Costas decision on their part, did not require them. They
didn't put in the logins that were necessary to protect this,
I can't answer that. Specifically, I can just give
you some of the reasons I've seen that people are not
continuing to have the historical logs because of the
volume of data. You know, there's millions of NetFlow
records that happen a day, and that does require quite a bit of
storage.
Okay, millions of NetFlow records a day, which does
require quite a bit of storage. So let's say there's 100 million
100 million lines of logging. Then I'll ask the chatroom, the
how many, what file size would that? Would that take to store
100 million lines of log?
If each if each line was a megabyte it would be? It would
be 100 gigs? Yeah.
So the letter that oh, 100 it would be 100 megabytes? No, no,
if each log 200 million? Yes, exactly.
Yeah. 100 gigs. Right.
was sent by use this to the Ranking Member Cummings, would
you agree with the assertions that were made there?
No, I would not. We did provide them daily reports as well as a
final findings report. We went over that with the team. And
then we also provided a mitigation report and and I have
documented evidence of I
have everything right here. My satchel. You can't get me No,
no, no, no, no. So this is what's happening with records of
background checks. They are just you know, who needs to log that
shit who's logging in? We all know. It's so obvious what
happened. You know, I've, I had a company we were on site at
Silicon Graphics and you You get admin while I was in Bankers
Trust, we got admin logins, we were punching holes in the
firewall to the outside of a bank. It's this is no one
understands that this stuff is just it's fly by the seat of the
pants. None of this is secure. None of it. None of it. That and
now the candidates, Oh, it's too expensive to keep logs. Yeah. So
that's great. That's what it boils down to. But who's
worked for the guard, we do have a letter one of our producers
that wants to remain anonymous, sent us a copy of the note. Oh,
that they spin around everybody. Yeah. Now I'm going to probably
clear this with him. But I'm going to put the entire note
that everybody everybody got this note that was in the
government. I'm going to put it in the next newsletter. Oh,
nice. As an attachment, well, not an attachment have to be
actually in the newsletter. I think I know link, I'll link it,
it'd be a link in the newsletter to a file and why don't
you do a blockquote? A blockquote. Yeah, in the
newsletter, like a little blockquote
blockquote got to do is put in the newsletter in there. Yeah,
we
put the part of that. That email, you put in a blockquote
you always do block quotes. But to blockquote this little block
of quote,
oh, yeah, I can do that. But this is a four pager.
Okay, now we can't do that with four page blockquote link, your
link is better.
But he's got all this stuff in here and I don't send out take
out he's got his name. He's got all his stuff that he's got
redacted stuff. So you can't figure this out. I hope and I'm
gonna assume that I can just run this and I and he's remained
anonymous, but this came from the United States Office of
Personnel Management, from the chief information officer who we
just heard from, I'm writing to inform you that US office, OPM
recently became aware of a cybersecurity incident affecting
its systems and data that may have exposed your personal
information another woman just said there's no personal
information exposed but his letter says other well
this is from the second breach the first breach there was only
the blueprints were stolen
and more every time you took a breach they took more passwords
and got Did you know
how much additional funding they asked for to shore up their
system?
I can't imagine
$50 million I guess to implement logfiles and then and then I
didn't I didn't clip this but that one of the senate
representative said you know well we gave CIA to build their
system $600 million this these are insane amounts. Yeah, this
is
it's and then
especially if they don't work this militarize it's more
secure. No, it's not it's less secure. These guys are
Boneheads. And they're lying. Yeah, and then they're lying.
And then they have the up talker in there to make things worse. I
like her noise. I like I like her and take it.
I have everything in my satchel. I have proof of everything many
meaning Nina?
Just terrible. Yep, yep.
That's your government dollars at work people. The end soon to
hand off another half a billion dollars, I'm sure. For a
database. All Oracle I might add Oracle running on Windows Server
2003, or Windows Server 2008.
Or it's like with the Navy's got right now, which is a disaster
waiting to happen. The entire US Navy is running on XP refused.
They refuse to upgrade. It's a big scandal because they're
paying Microsoft millions of dollars a year to keep the two
for support. Because Microsoft said we're stopped supporting
it. And we want we want to absolutely have to need support
you can pay us and we'll give you support. So there there's a
team at Microsoft has dedicated pretty much to the Navy's
contract. And they're supporting XP on the fly is the thing
slowly falls apart. That's ridiculous.
That's probably why Microsoft did that in the first part in
the first place. I'm sure there was element. If I were
Microsoft, I'd do that. Smart move. Yeah, I got an idea. Let's
charge these guys for support that we won't give away for free
anymore. Perfect. Yeah, you won't hear this discussed on any
tech horny show? I'm pretty sure. Certainly not the logfile
issue. That's just insane. I have better log files in the US
government on my own email server.
Yeah. What does it take?
Nothing to cost you a fortune. No
log file file. That's just the like line. You could do log
files for a year and now use up a gigabyte.
Yeah, and it's highly compressible, you know, log
files or text. You can compress it.
slam it down to nothing. Yeah.
Yeah. Well, if we were running the show, we know what to do.
But we got a different show to run.
Yeah, well, there's a couple things you need to catch up on.
Okay. Couple of things. One of the things is the Benghazi
thing, which is gonna be a thorn in the side of Hillary.
I didn't know it was back on the agenda. Well know what's
going on. on in the background and just not really back on the
agenda and never will because it looks like they've said the hit
squads out to take care of people. Now let's play this clip
as soon as I heard this. If you guys know anything if anybody
out there knows anything, you better either, right? Get a
deadman switch or something because you're you've had it.
Okay.
The Pentagon has announced a US air strike in northern Iraq
killed an operative with the self proclaimed Islamic State.
Lay on the heart. It was labeled a person of interest in the 2012
attack on the US diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya, and
was accused of recruiting North African fighters. He was
apparently killed by a drone near Mosul last week.
Oh, no. Benghazi, Benghazi. That's something I really go.
There's your there's your cruise missile. So that's one down. I
don't know nothing. I don't know. I don't know nothing. Oh,
dang. All right. So I'm just warning people. Yeah, I did.
Michael wolf. The I guess he's a media critic. And he's a book
writer. And he's done a lot of kind of a high end one of his
high end guys who go used to wrote the biography of Rupert
Murdoch and people. Yes, I know
who he is. Yeah, he's a visa famous guy. He's got his he's an
elite hagiography.
He's in a very elite. But I got this kick, which is another
thing you want to hear on the normal tech shows to get this
kick out of this commentary he made about net neutrality. Play
the Michael Wolfe clip play up.
Do you think the President and net neutrality him is this
Charlie?
Yeah, it's on Charlie Rose. Nice. Okay.
I think net neutrality is one of those other issues in which the
smoke, the smoke hasn't cleared. And I would say that when it
clears, the digital guys will be surprised because what they have
done is digital has always been an unregulated business. By
creating this, this, the net neutrality laws, they suddenly
become regulated. And regulation then becomes a game of who has
the best lawyers. And I'm going to tell you, and lobbyist and
lobbyists and I'm going to tell you, the media companies have
been doing this for an awfully long time.
Yeah. Well, the the regulations are in effect officially.
Because we pass the 60 day 60 days pass publishing in the
Federal Register. Even though the laws
are numbered. Oh yeah. For this show as we get a license, but
then we have to kowtow to certain government regulations.
That's gonna really be a problem. If you cuss. That's
going to be regulated. I can assure you that's happening.
Boy. We're in trouble. Well, we got to have some we have to hire
somebody to beat out the show.
We can't do a live anymore. We can't do it live bleep. Well,
luckily, your your actual journalist accredited as such.
So at least you can maybe I can operate it. You can deputize me,
was a deputy deputy podcaster
deputized as a journalist official.
So we had General Hayden. Now Hayden ran the NSA ran CIA. And
he of course now has his own and now he's just running. He's
running. Yeah. But he has his he has his consultancies, and he's
got his he has little company, doesn't he busy with some
company? I thought he was working with Chertoff. Oh, that
would make sense. And he was at a Wall Street Journal conference
and talking about cybersecurity and Snowden. And two little
clips I pulled from that one about a well, as you always say,
our real beef with Russia is Snowden.
Right. Yes, that's my thesis.
Do you think he was actually acting for a foreign government?
I, what I said, So intelligence officer.
I thought you said something.
No, to just answer questions like that. Using inductive
reasoning. I hope so we go to not information. Well, we're not
intelligence, we go to data. And then we supposed to draw
generalized conclusions from data. And I got no inductive
trail. That tells me Snowden was was helped. On the other hand,
if I go deductive on you, which is, this is what he did. How do
I best explain it? I got my suspicions. But I'm not a
deductive guy. I'm an inductive guy by profession. And
therefore, I have no evidence.
But he's not just making it. I just say this, and then maybe
you can take it from there. Right.
But then we got this little ditty. That was we know we had
this big change. We went from the Patriot Act to the USA
Freedom Act, mainly regarding Section 215. We still own
section two fifteen.org, which we put up years ago, based upon
what we were reading in the National Defense Authorization
Act at Santa Clara. And this is the big chain It was made as as
we deconstructed it is no longer is the government allowed to
collect information and sift through it. Now the telephone
telephony companies keep the data are mandated to keep it for
five or seven years. And then you know, it pretty much made it
easier. They're all indemnified, they can pass off this too, they
can share this information with the government. And so this was
a big change and the way it was presented on the outside the way
many, many certainly in mass media but also on the tech, Pony
tech shows, oh, well, it's all we've taken care of it the USA
Freedom Act to care. But no longer can this be done. This
must really piss this guy off. Well, maybe not.
Somebody will come up to me says well, okay, and here's the
thing. This Snowden thing is gonna be a nightmare for you
guys for about two years. And when you get out done with it,
what you're going to be required to do is that little 215 program
about an American telephony metadata, and by the way, you
can still have access to it, but you got to go to the court and
get access to it from the companies rather than keep it
yourself. I go and this is it after two years. Cool.
What a dick. Oh, he
said total dead
how Weezer the end is like, Cool.
Cool. Yeah, he's a war criminal. What a couple of things came
out. I thought were kind of related to this. One was the new
Snowden I guess a thing that was sitting at the bottom of the
drawer and Glenn's or somebody's desk or the New York Times,
which is the new Snowden revelations that came along to
just dip needle somebody.
British documents from Edward Snowden reveal how US officials
ordered a drone strike in Yemen to kill a doctor they believed
was working with al Qaeda in 2012. The documents reported by
the New York Times and Guardian show how a joint us British and
Australian program called overhead supported the strike.
Officials believe the doctor was surgically implanting explosives
in operatives, the new lease has raised questions about the
extent of British involvement in the US drone program.
They inserted explosives into operators.
Now there's a couple of things here that are interesting. This
story should have come out like months ago before the movie
Kingsman, because that's an element in that movie.
Okay. Which I have not seen. But uh, here's a real no agenda type
minutes at all.
No agenda. Nice. I saw another movie recently. That is very
another no agenda movie, even though it's a little more high
school type movie, which is Josie and the Pussycats. She's
also got a no agenda thing. And I recommend that too. I have to
revisit now. Nice. Yes.
Josie and the Pussycats is all over this. But the way I see
this this was just to bust the chops of the UK and the
Australians because this operation overhead was Oh,
apparently they're involved it's not just Obama signing off on
these drone strikes. You got the UK we got our guys we want to
kill two. Meanwhile, the most interesting thing that took
place which is the the clip this is the clip us spying on France,
which I thought was very revealing about one thing,
the government of France expressed outrage today after
new revelations of us eavesdropping documents released
by Wikileaks showed the National Security Agency spied on the
last three French presidents and other officials from 2006 to
2012. Prime Minister Manuel ball addressing the National Assembly
said France will not tolerate such actions
are gunners use multi party gustatory don't these types of
practices are a very serious violation of the spirit of
trust, we must have the United States must have been not only
the danger that such acts have on our freedoms, but also they
must do everything to repair the damages that created in the
relationship between allied countries and between the United
States and France.
French President Francois Alon called the spying unacceptable
and said President Obama promised in a phone call to end
it.
Cool.
I thought this was interesting from the perspective that this
leak came through WikiLeaks and not through the Snowden
revelations, or in other words, it didn't show up on the New
York Times or The Guardian. And which tells me where did this
come from? Russia. Of course, the Russians have been dog and
all this stuff the same way we do. And so the Russians came up
with some documents and they'd slipped them to the WikiLeaks
folks and they just ran with them. They didn't care where
they came from. And this is more of this. This gamesmanship being
played between red this is giving us the needle as best
Russians candidate can do to play this silly game as well as
we can not even playing it very well. So that that was to me a
shot across the bow
like that. Yeah. So what will happen next?
Well, it depends on what you know these, what we're going to
do with all these tanks. I mean, this came right on the heels of
and the tower is gonna load up.
They gave a clip about that. Okay. I don't know what clip it
is, but it's up there somewhere
I would swell. Let me take a look for you. I don't know I
don't know your clip list. I know. So people know I never
listened to John's clips. I don't even read military
gear in his Estonia. And we go, the United
States will deploy tanks and other weaponry across seven
countries in Eastern Europe. Speaking during a visit to
Estonia Defense Secretary Ash Carter said each set of
equipment would be enough for a military company or battalion.
We will temporarily stage one Armored Brigade Combat Teams,
vehicles and associated equipment in countries in
Central and Eastern Europe. This preposition European activity
set includes tanks, infantry fighting vehicles and artillery.
As Estonia, as well as Lithuania, Latvia, Bulgaria,
Romania, and Poland, have agreed to host company to battalion
sized elements of this equipment, which will be moved
around the region for training and exercise.
I'm pretty sure the host word is so that they're not using the
station word or stored word. Yeah, host hosts, like
a meeting to have an MP. See this come in. They say okay,
we're going to show you something here. You've been
spying on France. What else do you want us to reveal? We want
to keep this right. So this is going to discount it won't get a
little no agenda. It's kind of subtle, Cold War
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It's not even so subtle. CNN. CNN was touting this Cold War
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better, probably.
And I kind of liked the last show. I thought we did a pretty
good job. Last show was good show. You know, as adults, it
didn't hit me until this morning, when I figured this one
out. The president came out now there was a lot of things to be
obstructed. Over this past week we had or not obfuscated, I
should say. Hidden move from the the mainstream narrative. Yeah,
with all the bullcrap knew exactly like the flags and
stuff, which we have flag flag, we're talking about the flag.
But also we have the Human Rights Report, a thing is coming
out today than in the Human Rights Report, it pretty much
says Israel are a holes, they need to be brought before the
International Criminal Court for killing Palestinians, that we
probably won't hear a lot about that. You know, there's other
things I'm sure we're not doing too well, but not a lot of talk.
And then the President came out with this executive order, which
is what do they still do numbers. Now they don't. They
stopped doing the numbers, by the way, until it's in the
Federal Register, we'll get the EO number for it. And this is
the executive order hostage recovery activities, which was
completely misinterpreted, as far as I'm concerned. You know,
it pretty much says, Well, we're going to set things up, put a
little taskforce together, we love putting taskforce together
and be with this task force, we're going to help the
families, you know, who have been threatened to be thrown in
jail if they try to pay off someone and you know, just all
about the hostages. And the way it was interpreted by right wing
media was ah, oh, well, it's just gonna negotiate with
hostages, kidnapped blah, just gonna be more determined to go
ahead and kidnap Americans. I don't think that is what is
going on. But I do want to play two little snippets from the
President. So that was about 30 minutes and total interesting to
me, and I think to no agenda listeners, he really only had
two examples of American hostages. Which brings into
question, you know, this, this number of all 30 hostages Oh,
it's so crazy with so many hostages, we have to do some
about hostage.
I think government, we should always do everything in our
power to bring these Americans home safe American to support
their families. dedicated public servants across our government
work tirelessly to do so. Our military personnel risked their
lives in dangerous missions, such as the operation I
authorized last year that attempted to rescue Americans
held in Syria and Yemen. And there have been successes, so
he's gonna
give us the the two real hostage situations,
such as the rescue of Captain Richard Phillips, held by Somali
pirates.
Tom Hanks, that's your example Tom Hanks, Billy. Hey, Tom
Hanks and Jessica Buchanan.
And we know that was bullcrap. You remember that? Who she was
in the hospital and they went in guns blazing. We got that video
from one of our producers who was there? How you know how
would they almost dropped her? Remember that what they're
trying to bring was a while ago rescued from Somalia. Okay, so
that's his two examples, real big examples. But what is really
happening something interesting going on
well before you go into your analysis because I have none. I
do have two clips though. Let's do it. And if I have the two
clips, ones Obama hostages one which I thought this is these
are on PBS and they were kind of giving him the needle I thought
the piece was was ironic they were they weren't sympathetic to
Obama.
Beyond the ransom issue relatives of beheaded journalist
James Foley and others.
Notice the President didn't mention those right
plane of being stonewalled. Last year Diane Foley told CNN,
Anderson Cooper, that her son's safe return never seemed a
priority for the US government. As an American, I was
embarrassed and appalled.
I think our efforts to get Jim freed war and annoyance.
The President heard that complaint firsthand today in a
meeting with the relatives.
Many of the families told us that they at times felt like an
afterthought, or a distraction. That too often the law
enforcement or military and intelligence officials they were
interacting with, or begrudging in giving them information. And
that ends today.
Alright, so he says that the ends today and then the second
clip was this really kind of bothers me play this, and I'll
tell you what bothers me about it, and then you can go with
your route, what's really going on?
Now Mr. Obama has ordered a series of changes to include
creating an inter government agency fusion cell for hostage
recovery, naming a special state department and boy to deal with
foreign governments on hostage matters, and establishing an
issue manager in the intelligence community to
declassify information for family members. The President
acknowledges the families are right to be skeptical, but He is
promising there will be accountability.
Okay, what bothers you?
What bothers me is here we are trying to shrink government and
save money, they add new positions. The guys that were
doing this same job, in other words, coordinating,
interfacing, let's say, with the families shouldn't be the big
douche bags they are and they should have just been given
different walking orders. Or different orders that should
have gotten walking papers afterwards. But we have a bunch
of douche bags that are that are the families and there's
threatening to sue them or all the rest of Obama says we're not
going to do that anymore, either. Those guys are the guys
that should have been doing the universe. You have to hire new
people. What's the new people going to do? Ah, I just found
the whole thing annoying unless there's something else that I
missed, which is what I think you're going to tell him?
I think so I think there is and it was really one word that,
that maybe dive into it. But also, if this was a long speech
he I understand I at first I thought I was just to cover up
any other news that we don't want to have out there. This
will bring some families and we get some human interest stories.
That's typically how it works. Here's the second piece I pulled
from his announcement at
the operational level we're creating for the first time one
central hub, where experts from across the government will work
together side by side as one coordinated team to find
American hostages and bring them home safely. In fact, this
fusion cell located at the FBI is already up and running. And
we're designating a new official in the intelligence community to
be responsible for coordinating the collection, analysis and
rapid dissemination of intelligence related to American
hostages so we can act on that intelligence quickly.
And you can probably guess what term caught my ear?
Know what fusion cell? Oh, yeah. For the future? Yeah. It's like,
what does that mean? Okay, so
we have fusion centers. We know we've had these for a while this
is the cyber sharing information, where local
communities you local law enforcement agencies, even
clergy, everyone's bringing where companies will share their
information with the government. These are all the share cyber
sharing laws, information sharing laws under complete,
indemnification, don't like what is this fusion cell? What what
exactly is going on here? The energy no executive orders.
Typically they relate to previous executive orders. So
I'm reading through the executive orders I do on
Wednesday nights along with my medical journals. And I see here
we have something called the HR F C, this will be the hostage
recovery fusion cell. So that is the official name, H RFC. And
there's a who will be in it. And so of course, department of
state treasury, defense justice, National Intelligence, Central
Intelligence Agency, FBI, and other agencies as the President
or Attorney General acting through the director of FBI, FBI
mate, from time to time may designate this as an FBI
operation. This is not a Department of Homeland Security,
although of course, they they fall under the umbrella but this
is an FBI fusion cell, which is not the same as the fusion
centers. I believe the fusion centers are run by DHS. So let
me see what the what the guidance is of the H RFC,
identify recommend hostile recovery option coordinate
efforts by participating agencies assess and track all
hostage takers Oh, number four, provide a forum for intelligent
sharing and with the support of the Director of National
Intelligence coordinate the declassification of relevant
information. But really, I thought the intelligence sharing
was the interesting word there. And that was just searching
around for terms they found in this executive order. And I come
up or come across section 2.3 of one of my favorite executive
orders. Executive Order one, two, triple three. This is the
big one. This is the one that really this is the classic This
is the classic enabled by which president to put it was a bush
was it it
was Reagan was it wasn't good.
I think you're right. That far. 1981. Yeah, yeah. So that's
Reagan. Right. And, in this under Section 2.3 collection of
information, agencies within the intelligence community are
authorized to collect, retain or disseminate information
concerning United States persons, only in accordance with
the procedures established by the head of the agency concerned
and approved by the Attorney General, blah, blah, blah, these
procedures, self permit collection, retention, and
dissemination of the following types of information. And then
under Heading D, information needed to protect the safety of
any persons or organizations, including those who are Target's
victims or hostages of international terrorist
organizations. This is now an Uber spy center, this fusion
cell this HR FC, because now the we have an official entity
already up and running before the executive, normally an
executive order gives you six months or a year to get
everything into place. Now, it's already up and running. This is
going to be the central spine, cell fusion cell of the FBI,
where they are allowed to collect information to protect
the safety of any persons or organizations who may be
targets, or hostages or victims of international terrorist
organizations. That can be you and I. We could be targets. Whoo
hoo hoo, hoo. Can't say that. We're not a target. To I think
this is right on the heels of the removal of section 215.
We've opened up this new little secretive thing here in the
background, which will be under the auspices of oh, you know,
let's, let's help people get their their family members back,
but it's really a big spying center.
That's cute.
It's well executed, I think,
yeah. Well, you know, because they could just cut to the chase
and find the hackers. It took those OPM files, and they would
get most of the information they're looking for, which I'm
now beginning to think the Russia is behind that too. But
who knows? All right. I like it. We have to keep an eye on this.
Yeah,
the fusion cell.
So Obama got his fast track. Yeah, somehow. And there's an
explanation for it on the NewsHour. And I want you to you
really do have to listen to this, because I want you to
because there's a logical inconsistency about the report,
that she's very adamant the woman who comes on and discusses
this, she's a regular on the NewsHour. She's like the
government correspondent,
the news hours just knock it out of the park for us, aren't they?
Yeah, they get a day
once in a while they get hot. And she analyzes this and what
she says on the surface makes no sense. But it's probably what
happened in you makes you really wonder But anyway, play fast
tracking, then we will talk about it.
The Senate is expected to vote today to give President waiting
right that's the wrong one. That is that will play that because
that is the democracy now report on fast track, which also is
worth listening to
what is the other one so I can cue it up? I'm looking for it.
The Senate is expected to vote today to give President Obama
Fast Track trade negotiating authority to speed of new trade
deals, including the TPP the Trans Pacific Partnership, the
secret of TPP deal involves 12 countries and nearly 40% of the
global economy. On Tuesday, the Senate voted 60 to 37 to end
debate on the measure. Setting up today's final vote. President
Obama has made the TPP one of his top priorities in his final
term, aligning himself with the Republican leadership despite
strong opposition to the deal from some of his traditional
allies, including labor unions, environmentalists and consumer
groups.
In the end, 13 Democrats sided with Republicans to give Obama
the Fast Track authority the 13 Democrats are Michael Bennet of
Colorado, Maria Cantwell with Washington Tom Carper and Chris
Coons of Delaware Dianne Feinstein of California, Heidi
Heitkamp of North Dakota Bill Nelson of Florida, Tim Kaine of
Virginia, Claire McCaskill of Missouri Patty Murray of
Washington, Jeanne Shaheen of New Hampshire, Mark Warner of
Virginia and Ron Wyden of Oregon. Five Republicans voted
against the Fast Track measure including two presidential
candidates Oh, Ted Cruz of Texas and Rand Paul of Kentucky.
So let's kill them all. I think there was a funny report because
he names
names. Yeah, that's new,
which everyone should do. Yeah, I
like it. Well, here's
the screwball one. This is the clip is trade bill passed with
will weird conclusions.
After weeks of negotiation, the Senate voted today to approve
one of the President's top priorities permission to pave a
speedy path toward an international trade deal. The
Fast Track trade promotion authority would require the full
text of any trade deal to be made public, it would give
Congress up to 90 days to vote it up or down. And it would ban
Congress from amending the trade deal. It was a big turnaround on
Capitol Hill and a big victory for the President. political
director Lisa Dejardin joins me now to explain how it happened.
This rising from the ashes?
That's exactly right. What a turnaround from last week when
all of this blew up in the house. Now the Senate took it
on. And here's what happened when changing strategy. Last
week, those who who supported this idea, put together
something Republicans like which is fast track trade authority
with something Democrats like, which is assistance to workers
who lose their job coupled those together. Well, Democrats
realized there was a flaw there, they voted against the one part
that they were expected to vote for, and the whole thing
crumbled. Now do over and instead, the people who support
this, including the President have taken those two issues
separately, and today's vote was on Fast Track authority only. It
had the votes last week, it had just a couple of votes less this
week, but it has made final passage
and this time they linked it to something else that members
wanted. That's right.
What they've done here is they've added to that second
piece which they've separated the worker assistance. They've
placed that inside a bill for an African trade deal that is very
popular with guests who, right, the Black Caucus Democrats in
the House, they're not going to vote against that.
That's we told we had that before Democracy Now.
One a second. Here's the problem I'm having with this with this.
Factual I'm sure this is exactly what happened. But when they
voted against the fast track, the first time when the
assistance Bill was attached to it, it was thought that well
that with the assistance Bill attached to it, the Democrats
are gonna have to vote for fast track. And the Democrats all
voted no. And then they said, Well, it's a shame that this
assistance bill wasn't passed, because we had to throw that
away. We had to throw away the baby with the bathwater because
we had to stop this fast track. So they separate the two. And
then they vote the fast track in a which is what why would you
vote it in when it's not attached to anything, and then
they had to move the assistance bill to an African bill to get
the Black Caucus all worked up. So all you got you got to vote
for it now. In other words, initially, the Democrats were
voting against the assistance bill, using the fast track as an
excuse. They don't want to help the workers. This is bullcrap.
They lied. Should I go over this again?
I didn't know if I was gonna play the pet peeve or not. I was
in limbo.
It's not really a pee. No, it's just just I was stunned. And
nobody has pointed this out that apparently when fast track was
was attached to assistance, they voted no. But once you remove
the assistance, which everyone says that's what we're for, then
it got voted in. Are you kidding me? How could the labor in this
country vote Democrat for anything?
While we're messed on by this messed up, man?
Hello. I'm stunned. Oh, no. I thought last year, I was
stunned. I couldn't talk.
Well, I was stunned by the entire country going apeshit
over a flag.
This is where yes, I have a cup. My favorite clip I want to just
play this right off the bat, which is the S C. HC en flag. So
we get it we get the right we get the basis for this whole
discussion. And the Lord don't want that flag flying on our
Statehouse grounds. The Lord, it's time for the Senate and the
House to act. And if they don't do it today, the word will be
that will be bad. All right. Okay, that's there you go.
That's the basis of the conversation.
Here is the CBS This Morning rundown of the issue with the
flag pressure
is also mounting in the business community. As chain stores and
online retailers announced they're pulling Confederate
items from shelves and websites, Sears, eBay, Amazon and Kmart
joined retail giant Walmart in halting all sales.
This was a massacre and the church in the business community
understands that and I think As we enter the 21st century,
businesses are more sensitive and socially conscious. And I
think that's what we've witnessed. This is
Cultural Marxism at its best, and I'd like to review you being
our staff historian, John, the Confederate, the Confederacy,
the way it is the what is not being discussed, which I think
is just incorrect. The Confederacy was this only about
hating black people and having them as slaves that the only
thing that Confederacy was about was at the core of the
Confederacy was that what the south what the Civil War was all
about was only about slaves.
If you run in, if you there's a book by candidate stamp, who
discusses discusses what was going on during the era? No,
it's not it wasn't a bad effect. It began as a states rights
thing. We said, We don't don't need it. We can't be pushed
around technically, by the federal government. They were
against the idea. And South Carolina was the number one.
Troublemaker, they're the ones who started the Civil War by
blowing up Fort Sumter. And once that began, and everyone said,
Yeah, we're not going to be pushed, we don't need to be told
what to do. And it was still part of that. I mean, because
the 10th amendment was the basis for not being able to tell
people what to do. And this the slavery issue was, I'd say,
after we've reanalyze it and reanalyze it historically over
and over again, was at the crux of the was the crux of the
matter, and and it triggered some of this, but there was a
lot of different reasons that it began at the time and that you'd
have to read the documents from the era and what people were
worked up about and one of the things which is which is comes
out if you read Karl Marx's discussion of the Civil War,
which I didn't realize when I read it I went oh geez I Never
No one ever discusses this part. He said slave owners had certain
percentage of their you had 100 slaves you also picked up a
couple of extra votes. You could vote more you didn't you had
more than one vote in your in the state itself and I don't
know about the federal elections but in the state
we've just we've discussed this because votes count largely this
counseling or you could count slaves as a saw
their saw this as a threat to their existence, and they voted
to get this war going. And of course, they didn't fight it.
They had the peons, that guy who'd like you just heard there
a minute ago. moaning and groaning fight the war and die
it's a very complex subject and it was called the War Between
the States and still referred to that mostly a but in the south,
but it was called that during the during the war
to was very disappointing that no one brings this up.
Well, and then again, the South Carolina has a state flag. It's
got a Palmetto tree and a moon on it is very funny flag. It's
cute. But also even I don't know why they were running this flag
anyway. As always, I don't care. It's not my business. I don't
live in South Carolina. Flag is seems gratuitous. And, and
they've been it's been a point of debate forever. Time. Now.
It's taken on a boy Whoa. And
what will this big win get us? I mean, it only makes it makes
people mad at each other. It's only more divisive. That's
but it's divisive. Yeah. The joke of it is is everyone's
taken these items off of you know, the they keep Kate like
somebody pointed out this could be by having looked it up, I
haven't tried to find a k k k flag. But those are still
available. Nazi memorabilia is still available on a lot of
these sites that are taken away that confederate flag. That's
okay.
How about the Russian flag? We should get rid of that to
the Russian plays gotta go and Korea?
Yeah, we do not need this as the governor to declare a winner and
a loser help South Carolina. We respect freedom of expression.
And that for those who wish to show their respect for the flag
on their private property, no one will stand in your way. But
the Statehouse is different.
So that's an important distinction. You can fly it on
your own private property. Of course, you will be deemed a
whole racist. Exactly. whole race. And by the way, both.
Sorry. I said, By the way, both Clinton and Bush, but the
Clintons certainly miss Hillary standing up there saying these
flags got to come down. When they were running and when Bill
was running in Arkansas, they had they promoted the new flag
of Arkansas, which incorporated the rebel flag.
Yeah. And there was also a lot of campaign material which
floated around Twitter, which is the Confederate flag with
Clinton Gore 92. Yes, yeah.
And the events of this past week, call upon us to look at
this in a different way. 15 years ago, after much
contentious debate, South Carolina came together in a
bipartisan way to move the flag from atop the Capitol dome.
Today, we are here in a moment of unity in our state without
ill will to say it's time to move the flag from the cow
fertile grounds
burn the flag free the slaves.
Yeah, sorry. The damn bothers me is the removal of Jefferson
Davis is bust.
Well, let me get to that. This is Don Lemon from CNN, who, of
course he and he's the go to guy all of a sudden the journalist
becomes the the source right yeah the expert because he's
black and he's gay I guess a double up because you know the
south we hate black gays whoo we eat him for lunch. We're crazy
down here, man. And, and he's all in on this Jefferson. Even
the Jefferson Memorial
made a good point in the pre interviews that we did, did with
him. And that is this. Jefferson owned slaves. Thomas Jefferson
owned slaves. Third president united states and there is a
monument to him in the capital city of the United States. No
one ever asked for that to come down. Is it equal?
No, I don't think it's equal. Because Jefferson was a figure
that who was part of the entire United States, not just the
south. And that doesn't mean that they're that Jefferson was
perfect or no one is perfect. And our history is perfect.
There may come a day where we may want to rethink Jefferson. I
don't know if we should do that. When we get to that point. I'll
be happy to to partake in that particular discussion.
Oh, yes. Community Leader Don Lemon will help us get rid of
the Jefferson beyond just take a sledgehammer to the Jefferson
Memorial, please. This is crazy. Yeah, and there were white
slaves too. You can hate people. If you want to go and get a
history lesson, you know, go to Hollywood and watch 12 Years a
Slave. No white slaves. People put them saves themselves into
into slave slave titude.
But now let's let's play
well, just one was everything. Everything will be now seen as
some kind of symbol. Everything would go You can't Oh, you
can't.
Those are important. Those are just as addictive as cocaine.
racial overtones. Sorry, can't have Oreos, get Oreos off the
shelves.
You could make the you could start a website and make that a
cost the lab and you could probably get Oreos off the
shelf. Although it might not be a bad idea because you would get
a visit from Nabisco or whoever owns them now it's always
changing. I would knock on the door with the check in hand.
This is the way that some of these groups do this. Oh check
enhancing how much money do you want to get? Shut this website
down? Play it again. Yeah,
those are just as addictive as cocaine. Right?
This is an Uncle Tom reference. white on the inside black on the
outside. And this has got to stop this is solid This is
solving nothing. This just making it worse. And besides
like the some big win oh man, yeah, I can't live in the shoes
of a black man. But is
this the one that got me besides the Jefferson Davis statue or
bust? I think it's in Virginia, which is where he's from a flag
removed Alabama. This is the bandwagon when you have Alabama
involved you know something's up.
Meanwhile, the governor of Alabama has joined the push to
read public spaces of Confederate symbols. Republican
Robert Bentley ordered several flags removed today from the
State Capitol grounds. He called them a distraction.
Distraction. Yes, the whole thing is he's right about the
whole thing is one big distraction.
Man, you want to hear a democracy now had to say about
it about the Confederate flag. Here just confederate flag run
down dN
a new tally has confirmed white supremacists have killed away
Stop, stop,
stop. That was the that was your playing the next story.
Oh, I'm sorry. My mistake. Play run down. Run down. Yes, sorry.
Protests against the flag have spread. Mississippi House
Speaker Philip gun has called for removing the Confederate
emblem from the state flag while Virginia Governor Terry
McAuliffe took steps to remove it from vanity license plates.
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell has boosted calls to
remove Confederate President Jefferson Davis is bused from
the Kentucky State Capitol. companies including Walmart,
Amazon, eBay, Sears and Etsy say they will ban confederate flag
products and Google said it would remove the flag from its
shopping service and ads.
Doesn't mean it's gone from the internet altogether. And
now there was all over it. And so to bring the point home that
we're trying to make democracy now this is the second this is
when you tried to run I got it right. And this is the follow up
story, the story that comes right after that. And it This to
me was the most gratuitous racist thing they could come up
with. A new
tally has confirmed white supremacists have killed far
more people in the United States since 911. And then, extremists,
the report by the research center New America finds since
911, white supremacist, anti government extremists and other
non Muslim figures have killed nearly twice as many people as
Muslim extremists. Despite the intense focus by the Obama
administration on Muslim communities, non Muslims have
carried out 19 attacks and September 11 2001. Well, Muslims
have been responsible for only seven Oh, okay,
that's, I guess, huge numbers. Huge number Hey, Whitey,
you're a terrorist. Damn black on
black murders in Oakland are higher than 19. Yeah.
And meanwhile, forensics pretty I think, conclusively, there's
conclusive evidence that the jacket that Dylann Storm Roof
was wearing, had patches photoshopped onto it
looked like it to me. Well,
I got a lot of different links. I put them on the show notes.
You can looks photoshopped.
They were put that boy he's got some picture where he's sitting.
It's like he's holding a flag over to the side that somehow
caught on fire. Yeah. And then he's got this almost the same
shot with a stupid look on his face holding a confederate flag,
this whole thing looks extremely sketchy with this guy.
And this suboxone that he was apparently on I got so many
emails from people about this. Yeah. Heartbreaking some of
them. And I really love that they are producers were sharing
this. Let me just to bring up a couple of them here. In most
cases, our producers say, you know, it really saved my life,
quite honestly, the suboxone and pretty much
without fail. All it was what were they what was their
condition?
Well, the care I'll say, let me get this, Papa. Just get the
right one. So in some some stories that were like, oh, man,
this is more about the healthcare system than anything.
Sorry, I'm failing on bringing this up quick. I have so many
different stories here. One of our producers was hit by a car.
The car is within 45 miles an hour. And, you know, he was put
on all kinds of opiates. And then they I'm sorry, I can't
find I'll put the I'll put the email into the show notes
somewhere I have this and and then eventually, they have to be
weaned off of the opiates. And that's when you get Suboxone,
because suboxone has two parts. It has one part opiate and one
part Narcan, which, you know, really takes away all the
exhibits, what they use to revive people who have OD on
heroin or pharmaceutical opiates. And it's really great
until your insurance says, yeah, no, we're not going to pay for
that anymore. And then you're one of our producers, man, just
like he almost died. Me now. Because you get these withdrawal
symptoms. And so there's two things that I conclude from what
people are saying about suboxone A, it's really helped a lot of
people to wean them off if their insurance company will continue
to pay for it. Which I think is a good thing. But the second
part is, if you if you stop taking it, or if you mix it with
more opioids, that's when really crazy stuff can happen. Now, if
you aren't Suboxone, and you don't continue the withdrawal
symptoms kick in. And you know, and then just add one little
element to that. And you can make someone go pretty even
without adding an element, you can make someone go really nuts.
So there's none of this discussed, of course, because
the most you know, the big advertisers, Big Pharma, big
advertisers.
Yeah, and big insurance very big. Which really runs
everything.
Oh, speaking of which, we want to have this here. This is
representative Ross cam. On the
LE just love to the more I think about I just love the way the
insurance companies have inserted themselves in between
the patient and the doctor. As always, all the government's say
all the government's going to be saying that, but it was it's
been in the insurance companies which of the biggest, biggest
supporters of Obama, by the way, were the insurance companies,
which are banks, which is just money.
It's a bank yet because of the because of the way the bank
right, the banks or the banks, it's it's both it's Warren
Buffett Glass Steagall was released no don't worry about we
the banks can do whatever they want. The banks took over the
insurance companies and insurance companies are part of
a bank generally. Ya know, the whole thing Warren Buffett,
Warren Buffett to take our money, Warren Buffett
is a huge insurance and investments in insurance
reinsurance insuring the insurance companies. And here is
representative Roskamp. And he has a list of all of the
requests from different states for increases in premiums in
2016 when the Affordable Care Act really goes into full swing
for the first
time since the ACA became law, insurance, insurers are able to
look at a full year's worth of data claims to calculate premium
prices for the year ahead.
So this is very important. They are allowed to recalculate their
prices, they have to submit the request for an increase, which
of course they will receive. But it's based on real data. So now
they know what it's really going to cost in 2016, not based on
any estimates, not based on 2000 pages of documentation that was
made up and just if I recall, everything was going to go down,
right? Was
everything is going down because of the Affordable Care Act is a
price everything's going down. It's going to save people money.
That's an important distinction. So we've got real data to talk
about. The proposed premium hikes tell us a lot about how
much health care costs last year and what insurance calculate
health care costs are going to be next year. And on June 1, CMS
made public proposed premium hikes of 10% or more for the
2016 plan year and many of the proposed increases are eye
popping ly huge
it's already strange there will be you would expect decreases
based on the promises made but apparently we're getting
increases in the year the President will no longer be the
president.
In Maryland care first blue choice which covers
approximately 80% of the individual market has asked for
an average increase of nearly 30%. In Missouri Coventry Health
has requested an increase of over 22% in North Carolina, Blue
Cross Blue Shield has asked for an increase of over 25% in
Tennessee, Blue Cross Blue Shield has asked for over 36% in
South Dakota, one of the largest insurers Wellmark has asked for
premium hikes between 24 and 51%. It's noteworthy that in
many states, the largest insurers are also the ones
proposing the biggest increases, which is especially troubling if
you think about it, because they've got the most data and
are likely the most accurate. We could go on but there are a
number of these prices have real consequences in the lives of
real people. In other words, this isn't just about insurance
commissioners and scholars. This is about what people are
actually paying. And they're paying this in the context of a
false narrative. And the false narrative, in my opinion was,
this is going to be great, your costs are going to come down and
you're gonna love it
up to 52%.
Now, why are they going up so much? I'll tell you
because they can,
because it's because the pharmaceutical guys can think
and take a pill that somebody would be getting and they're
getting on their insurance bill. They're paying five bucks for a
for a month. But the pill was $1 a pill is very expensive pill a
buck $1 A pill is like expensive, because it feels very
cost two cents to make when she wants them. And that once the
chemicals discovered. So it's $1 a pill and so the witches in a
month say you have to take it two times a day. So it's 60
pills for 60 bucks. But because you got insurance is only $5
It's a co pair. Everything's copay, you don't pay for this,
so you don't even notice this. Oh, the insurance company now
decides to make the pill 10 bucks. Why? Because it's 10
bucks. It's just don't we ask questions. We own the pill. We
own the generic company that makes the jars 10 bucks. So now
it's $600 a month of cost but you still pay five you still pay
five the insurance company picks up the rest with a wink wink
nudge nudge and go oh, look how much it's costing the insured
the rates of the oh this and medical systems costing a
fortune $600 a month where we were dropping $595 on this one
person. We have to jack his prices up I have ever seen in my
life. Yeah. And that's exactly where and I don't care who
anybody out there who's ever had who has some chronic ailment of
any sort. Take a look at what you paid per pill not what your
copay is, your five bucks or whatever the bullcrap is take a
look at what the because on your receipt you'll get from the
pharmacist that tells you here is what you paid. And here's
what the cost of the pill is. And you see there's a difference
Oh, you've saved so much money. Well no, it's you haven't saved
anything. You just your your insurance company will pick this
up. And here's another pretty here's a prediction for people
out there who are on social security, social promise Social
Security, which is you know, it's it's something and is that
to get this I think is Plan B or C there's this there's the
doughnut hole, you take out a secondary you take out real
insurance for the drugs and they the drug company or whatever the
drug insurance company like Humana, there's a bunch of them.
They take a certain amount out of your Social Security to pay
for the premium. Right now. It's it could be any. It's a modest
amount of money, but they could jack it up so you get no social
security. This whole thing may be designed to scam the Social
Security system. So they take all of your social security. I
like it. And I don't see any reason why they wait. That's not
the plan. I like it.
It's kind of the Greek model. This take take away everything
from the citizens leaving with nothing but the Kardashians on
cable.
To talking about the Greeks, yeah, we got
an email from the ex banker from New York, who rescinded his
initial prognostication about the Greece about the Grexit. And
he said all I didn't expect them to tap into steel, the steel,
the pension funds. He said, Oh, okay, well, I guess it's not
going to happen there. And he said in the email, he said,
Cade, they're going to kick the can down the road, which is what
you said. So I give you 100% props. Thank you. I'll play a
little clip.
A final proposal by Greece's international creditors has been
put to Euro zone finance ministers, with time fast
running out to reach agreement and avert a debt default, ahead
of an EU summit in Brussels Athens, Mr. midmorning deadline
to propose a workable reform plan, as talks resumed after
breaking up in failure last night. We are optimistic
until the last second that there will be a conclusion I want to
honor here. The role of the President of the European
Commission who is in the best sense, the honest broker of the
interest of the Greek people, of the member states of the
Eurozone as a whole and the interest of the communitarian
institutions.
Greece's lenders set the deadline to unlock new funding
and avert a default next Tuesday, that said to be
exasperation over Athens, refusal to compromise on some
matters.
So kicking
Yes, well, it was so with Larry Summers was on the Charlie Rose.
I'm Larry Summers was the the Department of SEC a Secretary of
the Treasury for years under
Bush is he the guy who keeps falling asleep in meetings.
I don't know that he never liked him was one of those guys we
didn't like because he was lousy. And it wasn't like the
stutter. That other guy the ball game because cue ball guy, but
he was always you know, he had certain things to say. And he
was probably better than the other guy sounded like the
beaver on Leave It to Beaver show. Some Summers is actually
another one of they hit used to be ahead of Goldman, all the
rest. But he made a key made. And he's actually interesting
when he discusses things like Greece. So I have two clips,
summers on Greece, one debt position. And he's talking about
how this you know, this thing probably won't collapse. And he
gives some reasons why. But he throws a little tidbit in here
that just got me
Greeks have to be prepared to accept that level of adjustment
with perhaps a bit of extra margin, they don't have to pay
interest. They don't have to pay most of their interest. They
don't have to pay any principal. But they have to be in a
position where they're paying a little bit of principal back,
they have to take steps necessary to spur growth by
making their economy more flexible by making more of it in
the private sector. Europe needs the remainder of Europe needs to
recognize that Greece is not in any remotely plausible scenario,
going to be able to pay back all that it is owed. And needs to
create an environment in which Greece has a chance to succeed
by being prepared to provide further financial support. And
by being prepared to relieve debts. Europe needs to recognize
that while hundreds of billions of dollars have been poured into
Greece, most of that money has flowed right back out of Greece
to pay European banks back who made imprudent loans. Okay, so
who And so given that they need to make sure that Greek debt
position can get to a sustainable place?
Hold on a second. This was American money.
No, it was European money. Okay, but the point was, is that he
says just casually that most of the money that's thrown at the
Greeks to get their act together, that was what right,
repaid the banks. So it's like you've borrowed $5,000 from a
loan shark, and you pay back but the interest is so damn high,
you can't keep up with it. Somebody else gives you 5000
bucks, you get the 5000 back to the loan charge, but you still
owe 10 guys have been put in a bind on purpose, and everyone's
all over them when in fact, they probably, you know, they're
getting screwed. Now they're in a situation of course, and of
course, he says that they don't, they're never going to pay it
back. And that they shouldn't really be required to they just
had to pay something. But the question Charlie then brings out
was what if they just do the default thing and every was
gonna say that the banker predicted all this other stuff
and people, people are predicting this and it's is not
happening is what's happening gonna happen. But here's an
interesting thing summers kind of concluded about if that even
if they even thought about it
you point out in your piece that sometimes you don't see the
consequences when you're making the decisions. Lehman Brothers,
for example, didn't see the consequences of not rescuing
Lehman Brothers long term capital bank was it was at the
official title
LTCM Capital Management hedge fund
didn't see the consequences
someday, someday into some many thought, you know, small hedge
fund how big a deal could it be? And it turned out to be a very,
it turned out to be a very big deal.
So my point is, is this one of those circumstances where, you
know, they'd be at better recognize what the consequences
are of Greece leaving the eurozone? Because if not, you've
got a failed state,
surely I could go the way I would put it as this. I could go
wandering, wandering around with my eyes closed on Lexington
Avenue. And most likely the cars would see me and stop and it
would be okay. But it probably wouldn't be a good experiment to
run. And in the same way, my best guess is that if Greece
leaves, it will be a catastrophe for Greece, it will be a serious
security event. My best guess is it won't be a grand financial
disaster. I agree. But there's a chance that I'm wrong. Just like
the people were wrong about Lehman. And just like the people
were wrong about LTCM. And just like people were wrong, and
thinking subprime was a well contained small problem. And so
there are some experiments, you just don't want to run the risk.
The risk is too great. And I think that that is that would be
for me. The controlling reality. Now look, of course.
Okay. You know, it sounds to me like this is a great game to
play as you pointed out, if you just keep shoveling money in and
you get the loan sharks and everyone's just make up double
their money.
And you use the word game and horror was pointed out in the
last DH unplugged that finance had that screwball guy that was
protecting the Texan. The Texan guy that's really Greek. His
whole theory is is a PhD. His whole is real emphasis is on
game theory. Yes.
I remember we played clips of him about Yes,
he's a game theorist. So he's not there. Whatever he does is
right, he's going to and I think summer said it they're not going
to do any of this they're not going to default and they're not
going to follow the Euro zone is just going to float around it's
going to be kicked down the CANS gonna be kicked down the road
forever.
And everyone just keeps collecting lots of money. Yeah,
nice scam.
So like the people being scammed. It's said and get out
of it.
We'll also have now tensions are running a little high in Europe.
But you know, we still have the Dutch like, Hey, man, we want
our money back and we gave you Greeks money you lazy as Greek
they still want their bikes back. Well, yeah,
there's that. So the Queen visited Germany, the Queen of
England. Yeah, that was she had some bubbles on Boy I tell you
she had so many bubbles that wouldn't even fit around her
neck there was a brochure of the bubbles. There's a bubble heaven
and your your tiara and just and she said, you know, we got to be
careful we we've got a little strip a little bit of unrest
here in Europe. And as we know, from history, usually the
Germans attack the French and then we get another war on our
hands.
Dining with some of the most powerful politicians of the
European Union. Queen Elizabeth the Second was the guest at a
state banquet at the official residence of Germany's President
Joachim Gauck.
Why do logical people still put up with this shirt rod? This
horns gotta baubles on a tiara. What Does anyone see the farce
of this? Oh, it's just ceremonial. No, it's not as
part of a four day visit. In his speech, the President said a
constructive dialogue about the reforms which some UK
politicians are aiming for is essential, and added Germany
will support the dialogue. It was made in the presence of
Prime Minister David Cameron, who was leading the campaign for
EU reform and German Chancellor Angela Merkel. The queen who has
UK Head of State stays politically neutral stressed the
need for unity
in our lives. Mr. President, we have seen the worst but also the
best of our continent.
Your what was the best part lady?
Yeah, just how quickly things can change
your land was a miniature land.
Miniature land. Yeah, okay.
We have witnessed how quickly things can change for the
better. But we know that we must work hard to maintain the
benefits of the post war world We know the division in Europe
is dangerous and that we must guard against it in the West as
well as in the east of Adams fighting
words as far as I can tell. Now we've got unrest
Well, what she's talking about
unrest well we're angry the Greeks the Germans are angry the
French the French are angry. The friendship everyone was pissed
about the Waterloo celebration. We didn't even talk about that.
The bill is even know about it. Yeah, well, it was 200 years
after Waterloo. And which I think didn't turn out very well
for the French.
No, no, Napoleon lost the battle of water. So the Belgians
they emitted they they minted a euro coin
in Wellington, you know that Yeah.
Bingo Boom shakalaka they meant to the euro coin commemorating
Waterloo and the French were all bent out of shape over
who did the coin to bridge the Belgians the bell the bell? Of
course they say exactly the Belgians. Why? Just to give the
needle to France. Yeah,
I think so. Sign for cable news, though. I have not seen the
series yet. But Orange is the New Black is back on Netflix.
Which I barely could watch the second season. But now we'll
see. And the nice little ditty in here learn
enjoy chick thing.
It's a total check thing Well, I liked the realistic lesbian sex
and stuff that's kind of nice
plenty of that in Oakland,
but these pay now but these women are incarcerated of course
and you know, the one thing that I haven't kept up on is you know
when you're in jail is the the incredible populat popularity
surge of kale. But here's how it plays out in Orange is the New
Black Season Three suppress
some kale. And here's become very popular. The stuff that
stays all day long deli platter that's not something to eat.
It's supposed to be loaded with vitamins
There you go. That's a garnish
I didn't hear that. Yeah, I got that clip too. I I think they're
going to I think it's something about they're gonna reject kale
and bring in will down or they're gonna bring it but
they're gonna reject it because the message is subtle
subconscious messages all prisoners are so stupid that
they don't even like kale tickets kind of the messaging
that's trying to trying to okay I end this kale program has been
probably some of the greatest promotion in the history of
vegetables. I agree. I've got an odd here's a here's a news item
that we just just play just on trains good planes bad. Do we
want to do that? Well, the fastest train in the world clip
all the trains good.
Planes bad.
fastest train in the world,
the fastest steam locomotive in the world. While that claim can
be disputed and debated, no one can deny that Pennsylvania
Railroad for four to 7000 to gain worldwide fame for her romp
on June 12 1905. Taking train 29 The Pennsylvania special to a
reputed speed record of 127.1 miles per hour.
Ah, they don't even do that these days. Do
they don't get to 120 anymore. That was 1905
How did that have? What happened? What went wrong?
Well, we lost our way.
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it was kind of funny. President Obama got heckled and I'm sure
you saw this.
No, I did not. Ah,
well, what I'll do for you is I shall play the No this was an
LGBT QQ IA P. Pride meeting. The end if
you think this heckle was like the ones we've seen previously
that we've deconstructed and proven they're fake.
No, in fact, this was really Eat? Well, it was strange
because this is at the White House, when you'll hear the
President say something about that, and it took it took
forever. You'd think that if you start to heckle the president in
the White House, that someone's going to throw a bag over your
head within seven or eight seconds, Lufia
within five seconds, or you know,
like maybe you know, taze the guy, you know, it's like, Come
on, man. Come on, come on. Come on. We this is crazy. Now, the
way it was shown on the mainstream news, and the way it
was categorized was very different than, than reality.
And of course, we are the guardians of reality here at the
no agenda show. So here's CBS. There's two pieces cut together.
One is the T's, which will listen to the T's President
Obama
smacks down an unruly guest at the White House. That's next.
Well, he
smacks him down, smack her smack.
Smack Down.
So let us listen to the report from CBS about how our president
smacked down this unruly protester.
Today, President Obama hosted a reception to observe LGBT Pride
Month, but he was interrupted by a heckler demanding an end to
deportations. Here's how the president handled it.
Lesson,
you're in my house.
It's the people's house, Mr. President.
You're eating the hors d'oeuvres.
And drink in the booth. I know that's right.
The heckler was laid out or was led out and did not get one for
the road.
Yeah, no, that's not exactly how it went down. CBS Mr. Paley. So
there's the President saying when you're in my house, that's
offensive. Or should I not take offense to that?
No, I don't know. I say it's
horrible. It's borderline borderline that you want to hear
the whole thing would really happen and how the president
freaked out and had no control over the situation completely
opposite of what you just heard CBS eight
a minute, you're telling me that CBS made it sound like he was in
total control. SmackDown
Smackdown Smackdown Ah, thank God for C span where we can
record everything. I want
to thank all of you.
And I want to mention that. You know, when you're in the White
House, and you're watching the present, there's no need for
everyone to be recording him on your cell phone. It's
ridiculous. When you see the video everyone's holding their
cell phones. I'm recording. C span C span.org. You could get
this anywhere you want. What are you gonna do with it? What do
you what happens to this video footage? Here's
what I would recommend. Yeah, the videos are dumb. For one
thing you lose I have gotten millions of theirs. They very
rarely look at them. Yeah, of course they get photo nice one
shot you're good. But if you want to get the video thing you
have like you said you can go to the C span archives and get the
archive of the event. Find the C span camera is very it's a pro
cameras bigger and go over there and mug.
mug, the cameraman mug the camera
do that thing and do it maybe, uh, you know, you know, do a
victory sign or something. And then you can then copy then make
a copy of that from the C span library. And that's what you
show your friends. Yeah, that's cool. Then you're
actually there. Yeah, that's a good idea.
That's a great idea. I
know the chip. Another tip tend to show
all right here comes in this heckler was a. He was you can't
hear him in this. But you'll hear the President. He was
heckling about LGBT immigrants who are being deported. And I
guess that's an issue that hasn't Well, it's an issue
that's not to be discussed. Certainly not in his house
advocates, organizers, friends, families, for being here today.
And over the years, we've gathered to celebrate Pride
Month and I've told you that I'm so hopeful about what we can
accomplish. I've told you that the civil rights of LGBT
Americans is
a whole downside I
Okay, you know what?
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no. Hey,
now that was a great sequence. Let's listen to that again.
No, no, no, no, no, no no no no no NO, NO NO NO NO NO NO
NO, NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
NO NO NO, NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO. Hey, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no.
You do that to his kids.
No, no, no, no, no, no. Nananana nananana na nana nanana nanana
that's dancing
I've ever heard and it keeps going.
Yeah, lesson. You're in my house. Do
you think that you have the upper hand now? Right? Yeah, has
the crowd go out and play that cheer? Yeah, and he should be he
should be. The guy should shut up.
Believe what CBS does. Oh, we're
not even Dunja
it's not it's not respectful when you get invited to somebody
you're not you're not you're not gonna You're not You're
no, no, no, no, no, no no no interrupting me like this. I'm
sorry.
Now if I were president at this point, I would be tased this
fucker. But no,
I wasn't surprised that this has gone this long. Oh, it's John.
It doesn't
stop it gets worse.
I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
And people are going boo and sheesh
because you're you're interrupting it
now No, shame on you. Shame. Shame on you. Oh, God. Oh, God.
Come on. You can't you can either stay and be quiet or
we'll have to take you out.
Wait a minute. I want to take you out. Two words for ya. Take
You Out Predator drone.
That's right. We're gonna take you out. All right.
Can we have this person removed? Please tase him
Come on. Come on.
What is going on at the White House?
And what is it guy doing that he's got? He's just yelling
and no one's stopping him for anything. It keeps the President
is going to do the worst thing ever as a performer. Now, come
on.
Come on guys.
When the President says Come on, guys, is that not when you know
when Kevin Costner dives on top of him or something. Isn't it
time now that you know this guy is been silenced? No.
I'm just gonna wait till we get this done.
I'm just gonna wait until we get it done
okay
as a general rule, I am just fine with a few hecklers. But
now when I'm up in the house
my attitude is if you're if you're eating the hors d'oeuvres
so CBS conveniently cut out three minutes thing.
It's unbelievable. You get to clip in the day for that. Even
though I interrupted it, you were really pissed about who did
interrupted too much. Because it was good as and you interrupted
a second round of No, no, no, no. Which was like what is wrong
with them? him here? That's terrible. Yes.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Clever. I haven't pulled. I haven't.
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
I don't understand how that works at the White House. That
this guy can go on for three minutes. And
the other question of course, here's what's gonna happen there
gonna be a meeting with all these losers at work there. And
they're gonna find out who invited this guy is gonna be the
first question. Who invited this guy? Yeah. And when they fired
No, no scold them. Well, don't invite him again.
But it's not just that it's the Secret Service. I can't Yeah.
Where's the Secret Service and not honest, that will
tell you this is the right there's something
up very strange. Very, very strange.
Yeah, well, you're right. And by CBS two. That was that was
unconscionable what CBS did yeah, that is editing the news
to make it seem like something there wasn't wasn't a beat down.
SmackDown Smackdown Oh, it was Is it laughable? Yeah. Well,
that's the reason our show is so good. Who else has played that
clip? Anybody out there? Listen to the no agenda show. Nobody
has heard that from anyone. No one even has it now.
No, no, they can't do that they don't have the time in their
hour to fit in the underwriters. Oh man, I was listening to NPR a
day or two ago on the car and I tried to find it I couldn't read
this whole segment about you know, people need to sign up for
the Affordable Care Act and you get to the exchanges and it must
have been a three to three minute piece and then it was
brought to you by Athenahealth group are underwritten I'm gonna
go You kidding me.
The news our uses Kaiser, they bring the Kaiser people that
Kaiser spokesperson comes out and tells you what what's going
on. Yeah. And here's another here's a little offbeat one
before we were getting to the end here. But I want to play
this because this caught my attention to this, you know,
Sarnoff came out and he made a just big apology and everyone
was shocked by it.
Oh, this aren't if this is the Boston bomber, who now has
received a death sentence.
Yeah, he's dead. But he's not quiet man walking, even though
the Bostonians? Oh, we're against the death penalty. Well,
I guess we'll change our mind for this guy. Yes, you're
liberals. Now let's play this clip as the oddity clip, and
it's like, Wait, what is this? Okay, I gotta think that I think
I figured out what's going on here.
Did that a statement from Sauron? I have the apology. Did
it come as a surprise?
It did. Grande came as a surprise to everybody. We had
heard early this morning, that there was a possibility it might
happen. But it wasn't until his defense attorney Judy Clarke got
up around one o'clock and said there's going to be an
allocution. Well, an allocution. Could be anybody is addressing
the court. But we're thinking well, who's going to do an
allocution on the defense side. And sure enough, it was him.
His statement, he didn't only acknowledge his own guilt, but
his brothers and that's not that was not part of his defense.
Obviously,
you know that the statement was awkward. It looked like he was
reading it was hard to tell he was looking down and it was very
awkwardly phrased. But he said, in case there's any lingering
doubt it was me and my brother who did this, we are guilty. And
so a lot of it was kind of poorly constructed. But
all right, here it is. Any doubt it looks like he was reading it
poorly constructed wasn't expected to do this. It was just
me and my brother, nobody else. Our theory, which I still see no
holes in, which was this was one of those FBI schemes that went
awry. And for some reason, he didn't had to go in there and
reiterate, there was no involvement in anybody but two
of us. And I've got I have to assume,
yeah, why would he even say that? Why would he say that?
What
was the point? It was pointless? You already found guilty? And
he's done. Yeah. So that was pointless. It was something else
some bureaucratic reason, it was some sort of cover up. And I
have to assume that somebody went this would be my guess when
I was writing a story about it. You're writing a fiction? It
would be a guy who says look, you were didn't really make it
clear that it was just you and your brother. We're gonna do the
conspiracy that's gonna come out of the woodwork. Can you can you
read this? And you're by the way, you know? Yeah, I know.
You've been fat. Yeah, you know, you've been found guilty and
you're they're going to kill you but we have the out we got we
got to appeal that thing that's gonna keep you from death row.
And then get you out. I'm just because you were poorly
represented by a lawyer that did did nothing in your defense at
all zero. And so to keep this thing in play to keep the game
go on, you have to read this. Or you're gonna end up like your
buddy down in Florida.
Right, but But did he not receive now a conviction with a
death sentence?
Yeah, but there's gonna be there's gonna be suits that
you want. Yeah, it'll take forever. Yeah, he'll never die.
He'll die of old age
and die of old age if he dies of anything. Yeah, but good catch.
Good catch.
I mean, that's the only thing I can think of because it was out
of the blue. It was crazy. And even the woman who was reporting
on it thought it was fishy. Yeah, we have reading it.
Do you have a link to that to the full text?
Of his statement? Okay.
It's around. Now. We have to find
less than 10 minutes to go. All right. It's time to wind down.
John.
There was a moment there was a huge moment in podcast history.
Oh, yes. Huge Mo.
Yeah, I was hoping to read Derek didn't find it worth discussing
was. Did you listen to that podcast? I listened
to the whole thing. I thought it was incredibly boring, content
free. And it really was set up just for one thing and one thing
only let's
jump right in and this Obama thing. Okay. So he was on the
Marc Maron podcast. You know, he came right out and he used the N
word get on the man. She was a gentleman. Do you think it's
okay for the President of the United States to just use the
word just like that?
I think you have to put it in context, Larry. There's a
difference between saying it and using it. And he was saying it.
He was saying it so when you look at the context in which he
was using it and how he was using it meant it was a little
jarring when you hear we went we didn't What did he say? But when
you put it in context of how it was used, I get it. I wasn't
affected at all.
He said he was saying and not using it now she says she's
using it. I know you'd love that. She says saying and not
using it when he used it when he was saying he wasn't using it
that but he when he used it, yeah, what is this? What is this
gobbledygook bullcrap?
That's Gail man she's she's stern makin sciatic control
during mac and cheese. So here is the actual segment from the
President on the WTF the WTF the Marc Maron podcast, racism,
we are not cured of clearly had and and it's not just a matter
of it not being polite to say nigger in public. That's not the
measure of whether racism still exists or not. It's not just a
matter of overt discrimination. We have societies don't
overnight, completely erase everything that happened two to
300 years prior,
I think. I think that was the only reason he was there. To say
that.
Well, I could get away with it on the podcast,
and I didn't like you heard the thing. Did you listen to it? No,
I only
heard this snippet. I thought that that was right. And I heard
the reaction to him saying it, and that was that.
I didn't clip it. And I should have the president comes in to
the garage. And then Marc Maron says something about, oh, I
can't believe that. You know that I would grow up in a one
day I'd have the president united states in my garage on a
on a podcast and the President says something to the effect of
hey, you know, are you denigrating, like, kind of like,
Oh, it's just a podcast. Yeah, it was like he said something
really shitty. I'll pull the clip for for Sunday, and be like
the pod views
of the podcast. But you don't have to be worried about that
manage the podcast. Like,
you know if you're right, no, no, I'm sorry. I didn't clip it
now. was mean.
Just mean, and what's he doing there that have been so crappy?
Yeah.
I just I'm sure Marc Maron couldn't do anything but what he
was told to do. Oh, yeah, but he didn't ask any questions. But
really, not really. It was it was disappointing. It was just
uh, it was cool to hear the President say hey, man, hey,
man. It's great to be here man. You know, because because now
the podcast because a man it's all hip the kids are doing Hey,
man. Did you tweet about the podcast, man? You got the post
to Twitter handle now man.
POTUS at POTUS. Hi, John. Boy, take us home.
I think I'm I got I don't want to talk about Brian Williams.
That was kind of dumb. No. i Oh, yeah. Okay, we'll tell you what,
this is good stuff. This is the UN sex abuser. One this is the
this is the sex abuser. You got two clips sex abuser pawn.
That's your version of one. But no, this is a pawn. It's an
actual pawn. Okay. Play. Yeah.
United Nations peacekeepers in the Central African Republic had
been accused of sexually abusing street children in the capital
Bangui.
I usually don't do it on these short ones. But I'd like you to
accept Clip of the Day for that. Think that that was
clinical the United Nations peacekeepers in the Central
African Republic had been accused of sexually abusing
street children in the capital Bangui.
Alright, now we go to the second one which actually has a punch
line, which is more about the UN sex abuse.
The news comes after an internal UN report surfaced in April
detailing the alleged sexual abuse of children by French and
African troops in the Central African Republic. The report was
leaked to French prosecutors by a un whistleblower who is
suspended making him the only person so far to be punished
over the sexual abuse allegations.
The whistleblower gets thrown in the slammer.
Welcome to the modern world as right. Oh, man,
that is good. Thank you. I needed that perfect ending,
John. Perfect.
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