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Hey man, I'm hearing a ringing
sound. Adam curry, John C.

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Dvorak.

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Thursday, March 3 2016. time
once again for your Gitmo nation

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media assassination episode 804.
This is no agenda, balancing

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privacy against privacy and
broadcasting live from the

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Capitol. The drone star stayed
here in FEMA Region six in the

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morning, everybody.

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I'm Adam curry, and from
Northern Silicon Valley where

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the Zephyr went by we're running
late. I'm John C. Dvorak, Raglan

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Buzzkill.

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All that extra time to prepare
your opening and that's where we

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get you know, I

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always choke the open if you
are. You're a choker.

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You're a choker man. amature.
Choker, choker.

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Joke artist. Yeah, big time.

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Yeah, back in the crackpot condo
here in the skyscraper in

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downtown Austin. After our
little jaunt to Fayetteville?

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Yes. Sometimes known as Fayette
chill or Fayette Nam.

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It now Vietnam. Vietnam. Yeah.
Why is a bunch of Vietnamese

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there?

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No, it's because of the
outstanding quality of the weed.

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The Weed yeah.

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Oh yeah. Fayetteville weed is

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run why don't they get legalised
in that state? They

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should man that stuff maybe go
cross-eyed?

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I thought you stop using that
stuff. Oh. Taco he denies it.

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You all know everyone has
listened to this show.

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I stopped I stopped a long time
ago. Yeah, I stopped and then

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sometimes I you know, someone
says hey, you got to try this

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from Arkansas. This is research
for the show jazz research. It's

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local materials research to grow
it right what they would that's

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actually him growing area. Yeah.

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There was a dude named Ben.

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A stone to dude named Ben.

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You tried that? He said, Hold
on. I'm gone. cross-eyed. This

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stuff is good.

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Going Christ. Yeah, stop and Van
Buren.

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Yes, we did. We stopped Van
Buren on the way home and you

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know, I'll tell you, I'll tell
you what it was. Van Buren, it

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reminds me of Marfa, but only
there's much more of it. And

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there's actual people walking
around. This seems to be like a

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big place. Yeah. Seems to be
life. Beautiful. Very, very

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quaint. Very cute. We didn't
stay a super long time. But we

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did go. And that was a long
drive back. drove back in one

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go.

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Am I my take on it? And it is
big and people live there. It's

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like a normal town. But my take
on it is it's it's kind of sad.

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Because it's this beautiful
little 1880 Victorian town. This

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imperfect condition has been
kept

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up. Well, this town centre is
the historic town centre. The

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report I'm mostly talking about.
Yeah, they built the town. It

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was like the bank. It's like a
really? Yeah. Crazy, but it's

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not a bank. No, it's like this
shop is not that anymore. So

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you're coopered now there is a
flower shop and everything was

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whatever it was, is not that
it's no longer than what it is.

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Yeah. And it's kind of pathetic
in that regard. It's like oh, I

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don't know. I guess I'm
expecting Knott's Berry Farm or

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somewhere at least a few at
least a couple of places they

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tried to keep this

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very far now Mystic Seaport so I
had to stay at the at the local

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I've never stayed there. There's
a local RV park right on i 35.

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Four minutes from downtown or at
four miles from downtown I

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should say downtown what they
all say because because we were

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back so late I couldn't we drove
it all in one go. It's about

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eight nine hours. Because Tina
had work on Tuesday. And I you

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know so I couldn't be couldn't
take it back to the to the

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storage place because they were
closed. This is the RV park that

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famously, Matthew McConaughey
stayed at for months when he was

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filming something in Austin or
whatever within an Airstream

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coincidentally. There was nice

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what's the name of it? Ah I
forget that's okay doesn't need

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to plug we don't get paid no.

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No in fact that I got in like 10
o'clock or something. Then you

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pick up a little packet because
no one's there that just has a

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card Daniel key card to get in
and sometimes a passcode for the

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gate and then said oh we won't
have any any cable because

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apparently Time Warner as now
he's now encrypting all of their

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what used to be kind of free
usable cable and they're not

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even selling boxes to these
outfits all the RV parks like

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holy crap we can't offer cable
anymore which is a problem.

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Yeah. Yeah, Time Warner doesn't
want people doing that anymore.

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I guess even even when they
offered to pay for extra cable

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boxes now they won't do it. They
won't do they won't sell them.

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Why? I don't know. I don't know.
The rationale. douchebags is a

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douche bag thing. I will I also
She also noticed a huge design

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flaw once again in the American
made Airstream trailer. Okay, so

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you have a heating system
heating and cooling and in the

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bathroom, which is kind of nice
there is an outlet you know one

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of those look great. And when
the furnace or if you have the

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other 80 back on That'd be nice.
You're sitting on the on the

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toilet, you know,

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ah back.

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HVAC isn't what it is. What is
it? No app, why am I saying ah

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bag? Isn't this, what is the AC
is now called H back heating

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something AC to unit that can
heat or cool? Okay, an air

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conditioner. And which is really
nice when you're doing some

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sitting down business in the air
stream in the back there. But

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when you're standing up, this is
a design flaw as a guy, the

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grate is higher than the toilet
seat itself. So you have a

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crosswind of about five knots.

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And it blows the be all over the
place in the

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dark. It is an obstacle that
needs to be reckoned with.

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Next time you'll know better
than you should sit like a girl.

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Yes, we should. And then I got a
call. Yeah. What is it? That was

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Wednesday morning? Remember the
crisis management guy from DC

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who I met a while ago who was
friends with Gary Johnson? Yeah,

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so he called he said, Hey, I'm
in awesome. Let's have a cup of

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coffee to update you on stuff,
then. And I think really, you

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know, he's, he's, so he's crisis
manager to these guys. You know,

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they, they want books, they want
something to, you know, to be

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able to tout their their skills
with so he written a piece for

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Huffington Post about why he
thought Trump was, you know, so

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successful. And that's, I guess
that's kind of what he wanted.

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He told me because I didn't
quite understand what he was

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saying about that until like,
went back and read his article.

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But he says, It's because our
expectations are so low. And

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that's why that's why we, you
know, with Trump with

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expectations are low, you know,
you know, you don't expect him

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to speak politely. There's so
many things you don't expect.

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And it's very much like the his
analogy was the the difference

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between Toyota with their so
called stock accelerators, we

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all remember that Bogota of scam
as well, compared to General

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Motors, when lots of people were
dying in the General Motors

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cars. And with Toyota, the
impact was much bigger from a

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crisis management perspective,
because people have a high

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expectation of quality that
Toyota brings. Interesting

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theory, I liked it. But more
importantly, you had a couple of

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inside Diddy's for me. First of
all, from the Gary Johnson camp,

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they are looking at what's going
on between the Republicans and

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the Democrats as a possible
opportunity for a third party

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play which I'm sceptical of. I
said, Hey,

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I was that has happened once
before.

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That was Ross Perot, wasn't it?
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I'm talking about successful Oh,
1856. Ah, so it's overdue.

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What? Who was 1856?

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That's when the Republican Party
first formed. And then in 1860,

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within four years, they had a
President Lincoln. Okay. And

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before that it was the Democrats
in the Whigs.

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Right. Well, so there's that
thinking in the Gary Johnson

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camp. And, of course, when Gary
Johnson is ready, now, we want

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to interview him no problem and
get anything we want. Which

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might be interesting. I might
interview, do a site. Yeah. Just

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play some pieces on the show.

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Package. It plays a Yeah. And
then we can package it for one

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of those specials. And you

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said, of course, you know that,
in reality, the President

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doesn't actually run anything.
It's a lobbyist. This was him

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speaking. So lobbyists, which
he's one, so and then we'll see.

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Oh, so he's talking about, at
least he's honest, oh, he's a

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very honest guy. And he was
talking about the Trump

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campaign. He knows a lot of the
consultants who were there early

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on, he said, they all quit or
were fired. No one could deal

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with him. Because Trump was
running the entire show himself.

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All the ideas, all the
strategies is all him. He won't

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listen to consultants he
disagrees with doesn't like and

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then and then eventually gets
rid of him. Which is something

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that I always question, you
know, is this just him? Does he

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have some? He must have some
advisors, but apparently very,

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very few other than people who
already advise him in his

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company already.

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Yeah, he's winging it. winging
it. Exactly. So it makes it

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interesting. Exactly.

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John Kasich

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had to retell a story then.
Okay. I said this story before I

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tell the story, I guess once
every couple of years. I'm

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watching television after the
after the after Walter Mondale

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was defeated. This is what year?
It Well, you have to look at

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Walter Mondale when he ran for
president. It was a while ago in

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the 80s Maybe I think 80s and he
lost. I thought it was a steal.

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If he comes on he's on the
Carson Show. That guy's a laugh

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riot is doing like Rubio stand
up. It's like he's funny. He's

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got a smile on his face. He's
affable. He's got a good

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personality and from that moment
on I've always realised that

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these consultants are the ones
who get in there no don't do

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that. Don't do this don't do
that. Don't do this don't do

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they're the ones show that
exactly the same thing having a

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PC magazine we had a bunch of
consultants giving it to Oh, no,

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no people don't want Oh, that's

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like radio station consultants.
They always come in Hey, man,

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don't bank announced that song.
Yeah, you got to do a little

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more inflection on wn BC. I
mean, that is going on today.

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Still,

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more. Yeah, these consultants
are full of crap. And in

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general, if you can't deal with
the managers or consultants that

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listen to the show, you know,

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you know what we're talking
about Betty?

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You know, we're talking about
we're talking about so case,

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EJ, then he knows Keisha and
he's with this guy's a

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Washington insider. He's a
really good source of dirt that

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he says, I feel more

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we talk he only came out to drop
a few bombs on you. So you'd put

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them on the shows. So we could
leverage it?

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Well, yeah, that's the deal.
Yeah, we promote his article and

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then we can get some shit from
him. This is really good. The

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article be in the show notes.
Case IGE. Because he's dealt

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with this guy in the past. He
says, really nice guy on TV

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total asshole in real

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life. You know, it's funny, you
get that and I get that

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impression. Well, then you
nailed for strictures. Rove

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will.

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You Serious Man, this guy didn't
total a whole a to the whole.

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Yeah, that wouldn't surprise me.
I think a lot of politicians are

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that way now. I mean, look at
Nixon. I mean, he would seem

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like an a hole. But when you
heard the tapes, Holy mackerel.

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It was a double aihole said all
the time, couldn't get dirty and

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foul mouth jerk.

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Unbelievable. And so I said,
Well, you know, else isn't a U

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haul. I said Elon Musk. I'm just
throwing stuff out trying to

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keep the conversation going. And
he says, oh, Ilan, he says,

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Yeah, I covered him then Space X
as an analyst for a while. And

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so. So you know how it works?
Yeah. All the subsidies and all

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that and he's not at all
enamoured with Elon as the great

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saviour. But he said something
else. He said, John McCain is

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his he can barely speak because
I'm quoting, okay. John McCain

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can barely speak because he has
Elans dick so far down his

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throat. Now, like, What are you
talking about?

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I never knew this.

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Yes, he's he is because if you
go back and look at what McCain

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says about Russia, he has had a
number of you know, obsessions,

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where he's talking about the
Russian rocket engines that the

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US still has to use, because we
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retiring soon, and he'll be on
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other position. She's all in on
trying to get Elon and SpaceX to

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provide all rockets rocket
engines for all us space. That's

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why it's anti Russian. Yes. But
as the first put an embargo on

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the Russian so we don't have we
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interested in mind at all. Well,
gains the worst.

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you've no idea. This guy's

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always trying to get SpaceX and
he's always trying to do stuff

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for him. Well, and you know
what? They I think they're a

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match made in heaven. Perfect.
Yeah. Exactly. Um, so didn't get

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to see the Academy Awards only a
little bit because of just Oh,

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yeah, well, we were late and,
and saw Simon. So I have no

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deconstruction. I don't care.
It's already no one cares

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anymore. Well,

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I didn't get any clips. But you
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couple of things. One, it wasn't
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Apparently, it had really low

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and there's a number and I
wonder why? Because I watched

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it. It's always a decent show. I
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year set? Yeah, was spectacular.
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Emmys for some of the stuff we
did this year's was kind of dull

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by comparison, it would have
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like last year, which was
fantastic. But they I don't

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know, I think the ratings may
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because of what and maybe people
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know that you should start this
show. I think you know Chris

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Rock who I think's hilarious. I
don't think you want to start a

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show like this. Be rating the
audience for being a bunch of

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racist white, white whites for
being white and race.

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I think what I saw is, it just
kept on going it wasn't like you

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know, some he was pretty funny,
but he never ran stood up in one

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big statement that we could all
take home and say, Thank you,

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Chris Rock, you've healed
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some of the expectation.
Instead, what I saw, is it the

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JUGS just kept on coming back.
And I think we bailed after 45

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minutes. With the quality of the
stream was no good that we were

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watching. It was just, I don't
know, it was annoying.

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Yeah, well, he didn't miss much.
I mean, I can't think of any of

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the funny moments where somebody
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old. And they did this new
thing, which I actually was the

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one thing I was impressed with,
even though nobody seemed to

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care, which I was a little
baffled by the show ended on

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time. And in fact, it ended way
on time. So they could do a full

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credit roll with

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a normal speed, they didn't have
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speed up to speed up the credits
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promote the next show, here we
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They ended on time, they did the
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has been missing because they
need to credit the people I've

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put on the show. It's a very
good live show. And this was

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because what they did was this
little trick the person as soon

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as they won that except for the
big winners because they didn't

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prepare for them. So they get to
they get to which I think was

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good, too. Because in the olden
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set design and stuff would come
out and ramble on that take

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forever. And by the end of the
show, the guy who wins best

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actor gets two minutes, and then
they play him off. Yeah, our

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minute, sir. 40 seconds. So what
they did was they did the The

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winner would like to thank and
then they ran it as a crawler.

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And so they ran these, you know,
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do that, you add everybody in
their sister on there, my

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mother, my brother, Mike, and
they have all their names and

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their shooting across the bottom
as the guys saying, I'd like to

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thank the studios for my and
then meanwhile, at the bottom is

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all this I'd like to thanks
going by all these names. I

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thought that was genius. I
didn't like it at first and

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everyone said what is this? But
after I saw that the show ended

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on time, I realised that that's
been the big delay. Who needs to

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know that somebody who won best
supporting actress has to thank

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her agent and her their lawyers
and all this other stuff. I

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don't nobody cares. So they just
ran it as a crowd. Gee, I

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thought looking back on it.
absolute genius.

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Feels like you're a little too
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John. Well, we recorded it. So
we'll watch it. Maybe

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you don't need to watch it.
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we won't be watching it. Go
watch it. Maybe a way to get

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into today's news is just a
little way to get into today's

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news. Oh, wait, backup. I'm
pretty sure that the Oscars

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would have been tanked in the
ratings. Had they not done all

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this black white racism
promotion? That's what I'm

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thinking. I believe that people
don't care anymore about the

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show. Maybe they were maybe they
even overdid it. They were so

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tired of it. Yeah,

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I don't know. I mean, I I could
I could live without the Oscars.

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I think I could I think I so far
I'm doing okay.

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The one I liked was the
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or better.

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Okay. I have to ease us into
today's news. They have just

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broadcast that Mitt Romney came
out to speak about the

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Republican Party. I guess he's
one of the elites. I'm always

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wondering who are these? Who is
the base? Who are these elites

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that everyone talks about? The
you know, the top echelon Who

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are these guys have to

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be in there he who else?

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You know, there's not a lot of
names being I think

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a few of the senators. So it's a
bunch of aihole rants, rinse

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rinse.

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He's just a figurehead Priebus.
He's just a dude. He's He's not

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an elite is just the he holds
the talking stick. He also is

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talking stick. You can talk now
you can do this. Anyway, so

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Romney came out and died while
we were setting up getting ready

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for the show was taping it. So I
had the last two minutes, which

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are kind of his wrap up of
talking about Donald Trump and

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the general idea is he is asking
everyone if you're an Ohio vote

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for case H if Kasich, Kasich
Kasich, what is the case EJ?

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case it's a

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I've heard it pronounced case
itch and case we won't have to

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remember for long

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because he'll be gone. If you're
in Florida, vote for Rubio, if

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you're in Texas vote for Cruz,
of course haven't already did

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that. But you know, the idea is
is to block Trump as much as

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possible. That's that is the
grand strategy of the grand old

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party. And here's his wrap up.
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In the past, our presidents have
channelled that anger and forged

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it into resolve into endurance
and high purpose and into the

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will to defeat the enemies of
freedom. Our anger was

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transformed and The Energy
directed for good,

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directed energy weapon. Mr.
Trump has

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threatened our anger for less
than noble purposes. He creates

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scapegoats and Muslims and
Mexican immigrants. He calls for

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the use of torture. Yeah. He
calls for killing the innocent

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children and family members of
terrorists

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sounds so far like he's on par
with Obama. Obama sounds about

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the same.

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He cheers, assaults on
protesters. He applauds the

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prospect of twisting the
constitution to limit First

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Amendment freedom of the press.

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This is I love when he when this
is a meme. There's a lot of

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memes that anything to the
Hitler thing is one, but now

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it's all he wants to abolish the
first amendment for for libel

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laws. Yeah, come on.

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This is the very brand of anger
that has led other nations into

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the abyss. Oh,

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we have that word again. What?

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What nations? I'm sure he means
a Nazi Germany, that it has to

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be that.

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I don't know. Here's what I
know.

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Oh, well. Oh, and then it goes
blank.

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Donald Trump back phoney, a
fraud a phoney His promises are

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as worthless as a degree from
Trump University

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where's that screamer? This is a
mistake. I'm just realising

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they've made a huge mistake.
They never should have let this

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go like that. They should have
not done this live or at least

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done some kind of tape delay.
And they should have put in the

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Rubio screamer here's how I do
it. I don't know anything about

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oops. That didn't work. Sorry.
Have you ever scream? I scream

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your scream. Ah, that's probably
a good idea.

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Ever have Romany? Say something
to throw the Screamer in? Yeah.

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Okay, here we go. This, this
will be worth all the effort.

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Let's back it up a little bit.
Where is he? Here we go. Here we

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go. I'll keep it ready for the
next one.

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Yeah, he's playing the members
of the American public for

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suckers. He gets a free ride to
the White House. We get us a

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lousy hat. His domestic policies
would lead to recession. His

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foreign policies would make
America and the world less safe.

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He has neither the temperament
nor the judgement to be

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president. And his personal
qualities would mean that

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America would cease to be a
shining city on a hill. I'm

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convinced America has greatness
ahead. And this is a time for

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choosing God bless us to choose
a nominee who will make that

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vision a reality. Thank you. And
God bless you all.

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Alright, so weak, weak?

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Well, it was one of the you know
what I I'm listening to it. And

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it ran. I didn't catch it. So I
just ran this morning. Yeah.

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Which I thought was gonna be
this afternoon. But okay, fine.

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Screw me, I think is one of
these deals where it's like,

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Romney's watching this thing go
on and on. And then he sees

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Trump and Cruz or not Trump, but
to Rubio and Cruz. Rubio is

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doing is getting to the point
where it's such a stand up

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comedy act that it was mocked as
such by Cole bear. Yeah.

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Oh, you have a clip of that? No,
I

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don't because it was a visual
thing. We'll be here to hear all

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these gags and then cuts the
Colbert holding the mic out. And

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say make sure to tip your
waitress.

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Well, if we were invited anyway,

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let me finish. He Romney has
been watching these guys. When

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he says these guys, why don't
they just make a statement? And

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let me show him how to do it.
Right. And the books the time,

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here's the way you should do it.
And they does the speech that

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he's the way he thinks that
should be done, which is you

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blast the hell out of the guy on
some higher from some higher

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ground, which is what kind of
he's trying to do there. It's

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too late, too little too late. I
mean, these guys now they're

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just making fools of themselves.

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And Rubio, I would have advised
him differently. First of all, I

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think by now it is time that the
mainstream media now that we

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have two video clips that they
asked Rubio what he's popping

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dinner we have another clip of
him popping a pill. And it's so

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obvious, it's embarrassing. It's
almost, you know, it's like, he

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pops his pill in his mouth the
way we used to sneak smoke. So

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you know if our parents happened
to be driving by, you know, kind

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of your hand covering the
cigarette. What is he What is he

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popping? Is it just a breath,
man? Why does it need a breath

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man when he's talking?

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Breath man was a tic tac body.
You know, he

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has a whole bunch of whatever's
in his pocket. You can see him

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rummaging round I

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needed a Pez dispenser. Anyway,
so I think it's either add it's

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got to be,

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I'm sure it's Adderall, because
it's, I'm pretty sure but it's

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someone should ask him at this
point.

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Thanks so too What are you
taking? doing stand up comedy

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all of a sudden if you take a
couple of these pills all day,

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all day? Yeah, exactly.

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All day yesterday. They keep
showing the loop of Christie

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behind Donald Trump and like
they're making Oh, this was so

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funny. Christy's thinking what
am I doing here Boo is but if

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you're going to do that, then
you should at least ask what is

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Rubio poppin but that's not
taking place. A nice to see

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Charlie Rose call Rubio out on
this con artist mean the Rubio

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is and he hasn't it's all Rubio
is talking about is Trump is a

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con artist Trump is a con Trump
is a crazy con Trump is a con at

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this what I felt was a the way
Charlie Rose, even how he

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pronounced his con artist. He
called him out and Rubio fail,

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but

441
00:26:06,090 --> 00:26:10,200
Donald Trump has had a big
night. And many will say that

442
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,980
when you call him a con artist,
you are criticising the

443
00:26:14,010 --> 00:26:18,870
like that a con artist, like
ConAgra con artists

444
00:26:18,899 --> 00:26:22,319
as Lady Gaga who are criticising
the people who are voting for

445
00:26:22,319 --> 00:26:23,219
him. While he's

446
00:26:23,220 --> 00:26:26,160
a con artist. I don't I don't
deny that there are some people

447
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,560
that have been taken by his
message. But look what happened

448
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,110
in Virginia and virtually every
state tonight Donald Trump did

449
00:26:31,110 --> 00:26:33,990
not sleep he lost an Oklahoma we
were right in the mix. We're

450
00:26:33,990 --> 00:26:37,440
performing very well in Arkansas
as well. Virginia. As I point I

451
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:37,710
love

452
00:26:37,710 --> 00:26:41,310
how Rubio is always talking
about we we never i It's always

453
00:26:41,310 --> 00:26:41,640
we

454
00:26:41,790 --> 00:26:44,400
thought he was 15 points ahead
of me. And then we started

455
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,820
informing people of who He truly
is. This man is a world class

456
00:26:47,820 --> 00:26:50,670
con artist. And he is conning
people into believing that he

457
00:26:50,670 --> 00:26:53,730
fights for the little guy. This
is a guy that defrauded people

458
00:26:53,730 --> 00:26:56,430
on Trump University. And he's
doing now to voters what

459
00:26:56,430 --> 00:26:59,520
sounds like some talking points
to me. Sounds like what Romney

460
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:00,840
just did to the people

461
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,450
that signed up for that school.
And that's why if you want to

462
00:27:03,450 --> 00:27:06,750
stop Donald Trump, I am the only
candidate that not can unite the

463
00:27:06,750 --> 00:27:10,650
party, but I can grow it and I
got party favours. And that's

464
00:27:10,650 --> 00:27:13,260
why I asked you to go on our
website, Marco rubio.com. And

465
00:27:13,260 --> 00:27:14,010
join artists.

466
00:27:14,490 --> 00:27:15,840
Meet me on the dark web.

467
00:27:15,870 --> 00:27:20,160
Despite all that you have
campaigned you are 20 points

468
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:24,210
behind in your home state of
Florida, with only two weeks to

469
00:27:24,210 --> 00:27:24,540
close.

470
00:27:24,690 --> 00:27:28,020
That's one now. Well, first of
all, that's just one poll or a

471
00:27:28,020 --> 00:27:28,500
couple.

472
00:27:30,360 --> 00:27:32,580
We know that's not true is we
Rubio.

473
00:27:32,670 --> 00:27:36,540
I'm confident of it. Especially
after tonight. We took in the

474
00:27:36,540 --> 00:27:39,810
state of Virginia and five days
we took a 15 or 20 point lead

475
00:27:39,810 --> 00:27:43,710
Donald Trump had and basically
narrowed it to nothing. Okay.

476
00:27:44,459 --> 00:27:47,129
Well, Mr. Rubio, I would advise
you to talk about something

477
00:27:47,129 --> 00:27:49,619
else. Yeah.

478
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,460
I don't know. I kind of like his
comedy.

479
00:27:54,390 --> 00:28:00,600
Yeah, but when he but when he
did the Donald Trump small hands

480
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,940
joke. I think he pushed it.

481
00:28:04,110 --> 00:28:07,590
Yeah, that was this isn't this
stuff is not being written by

482
00:28:07,590 --> 00:28:10,800
Oh, that was his own punch. His
timing was once again perfect.

483
00:28:11,070 --> 00:28:13,650
You know, they say about people
with small hands. I was laughing

484
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,260
they can't be trusted. It's a
good punch line is an old joke.

485
00:28:16,260 --> 00:28:16,710
Very well

486
00:28:16,709 --> 00:28:21,719
done. But yeah, I think he's
also being coached. I've never

487
00:28:21,719 --> 00:28:23,159
really had to do this kind of
material.

488
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,310
Oh, yeah. Here. Here's what you
say. And here's your pill.

489
00:28:27,060 --> 00:28:28,320
And here's you give us pause.

490
00:28:28,350 --> 00:28:33,660
What was that? John? What was
the beach What was the name of

491
00:28:33,660 --> 00:28:37,890
that drug the you take when you
go driving for a long distance?

492
00:28:38,370 --> 00:28:43,440
Provigil, Provigil, and maybe
that's what he's taken. Now that

493
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,930
stuff doesn't really do that to
you. He needs someone to give

494
00:28:45,930 --> 00:28:47,220
him a quick hit right away.

495
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:53,760
Well, and that's that takes an
hour. It's got to be some you

496
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,400
know, I was thinking that I
mean, the easiest thing if you

497
00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:02,130
want to do the become a stand up
comic, and anyone who's been in

498
00:29:02,130 --> 00:29:04,260
that business knows this is
cocaine.

499
00:29:04,290 --> 00:29:05,970
Yeah, that's, that's the funny
drug.

500
00:29:06,450 --> 00:29:08,880
And you know, you can be
hilarious with you. You get

501
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,460
enough cocaine in your
chatterbox. Boom, you're just on

502
00:29:11,460 --> 00:29:17,700
your way you're good to go. And
but he's eating something. So

503
00:29:17,700 --> 00:29:22,530
it's not as though he's like, I
have a nasal congestion problem.

504
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:29,700
Taylor Vicks inhaler as a word
is filled with Coke vaping

505
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,990
this this sounds unlikely

506
00:29:34,500 --> 00:29:37,650
Yes. It's not what he's doing so
although you don't know what

507
00:29:37,650 --> 00:29:40,650
he's doing between between sets,
yeah.

508
00:29:41,940 --> 00:29:47,850
Sets. Good set man. Comes off
the debate state. Hey, man,

509
00:29:47,850 --> 00:29:53,130
good. Good set. Good set set
everybody. Yeah, very nice. So

510
00:29:53,130 --> 00:29:56,490
the media just you know, with
this with the Super Tuesday,

511
00:29:57,090 --> 00:30:03,510
results, immediate was just In
some ways beside themselves,

512
00:30:03,510 --> 00:30:06,150
they I think they still had a
hope that it would all melt down

513
00:30:06,150 --> 00:30:08,940
and it wouldn't work out. And,
of course, all the polls turned

514
00:30:08,940 --> 00:30:11,100
out to be incorrect, which is
something that is never

515
00:30:11,100 --> 00:30:15,210
discussed after the fact. But we
still need to keep pushing the

516
00:30:15,210 --> 00:30:20,070
idea that in the United States,
which is a republic, that the

517
00:30:20,070 --> 00:30:24,720
entire situation is equal to
that of Germany. When Hitler

518
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,600
came to power, they it was,
obviously the same governmental

519
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,710
system, the same powers that a
president has, and and therefore

520
00:30:31,710 --> 00:30:33,360
Trump will turn us into Nazi
Germany.

521
00:30:33,959 --> 00:30:36,659
Well, here's some math that will
trouble both of you, I believe.

522
00:30:36,809 --> 00:30:40,439
And this is how voter turnout
looks look at these stark

523
00:30:40,469 --> 00:30:41,669
differences when she

524
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,750
she say math? Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Look at the math. Oh, you notice

525
00:30:45,750 --> 00:30:50,250
that the word math has now as
been substituted for calculus?

526
00:30:51,300 --> 00:30:55,950
Oh, that's a good one. Well,
this is all part of the pie

527
00:30:55,980 --> 00:31:01,710
back. The I can't I can't think
of a nom spacing. Wait, well,

528
00:31:01,710 --> 00:31:05,280
let me let me pop a Ruby, Papa
Rubio pill and may come back?

529
00:31:06,390 --> 00:31:09,090
Well, here's some math that will
trouble both of you, I believe.

530
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,900
And this is how voter turnout
looks look at these stark

531
00:31:12,930 --> 00:31:17,700
differences between Democrats
for whom voter turnout is less

532
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:22,080
today yesterday than it wasn't
2008. And Republicans for whom

533
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:26,730
it is exponentially higher. Look
at Virginia 107% higher for

534
00:31:26,730 --> 00:31:30,000
Republicans than it was in 2008.

535
00:31:30,030 --> 00:31:34,410
I remember this when math slash
calculus is all about the

536
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,650
fantasy sports league that the
that everyone's playing well, if

537
00:31:37,650 --> 00:31:40,950
you have more Democrats coming
out voting less, but the arrows

538
00:31:40,950 --> 00:31:43,350
going down. And that looks like
the red state is just about the

539
00:31:43,350 --> 00:31:45,390
blue state and therefore Hillary
will be the king.

540
00:31:45,420 --> 00:31:49,350
That's a problem, Sally moving
forward for Democrats.

541
00:31:49,620 --> 00:31:53,430
You know, I keep talking to
Democrat after Democrat who say,

542
00:31:53,430 --> 00:31:55,830
well, well, Trump isn't going to
win, Trump isn't going to win,

543
00:31:55,830 --> 00:31:59,610
he can't win. Well, he looks
like he's gonna win. And to be

544
00:31:59,610 --> 00:32:02,880
honest, that's the biggest
motivator is people have to

545
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,820
actually feel something is at
stake if they're not motivated

546
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,540
to go out and vote for, you
know, the guy with the

547
00:32:09,540 --> 00:32:12,600
progressive economic message
that really would finally make

548
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,660
this country work for everyone,
or the woman who's running with

549
00:32:15,780 --> 00:32:19,500
an impeccable and vast record of
experience. If that's not enough

550
00:32:19,500 --> 00:32:22,890
for people, at least stopping us
from becoming Nazi Germany would

551
00:32:22,890 --> 00:32:25,800
hopefully get Democrats and
others to turnout.

552
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,770
Let me summarise it. This woman
said Bernie Sanders will save

553
00:32:31,770 --> 00:32:35,400
the country. Yeah, Hillary has
experience and all the

554
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,680
Republicans are a bunch of
fascist pigs. Let's

555
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:38,310
check it again.

556
00:32:38,340 --> 00:32:39,780
Who is this person?

557
00:32:39,810 --> 00:32:44,820
This is Sally Cohen, Sally Kohn.
I don't know Sally, and she's a

558
00:32:44,850 --> 00:32:46,140
pundit for CNN

559
00:32:46,260 --> 00:32:48,630
that really would finally make
this country work for everyone

560
00:32:48,780 --> 00:32:53,010
or the woman who's running with
an impeccable and vast record of

561
00:32:53,010 --> 00:32:53,460
experience.

562
00:32:54,090 --> 00:32:55,500
She should she's a felon

563
00:32:57,780 --> 00:33:00,720
would finally make this country
work for everyone? Or the woman

564
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,740
who's running with an impeccable
and vast record of experience if

565
00:33:04,740 --> 00:33:05,820
that's not enough, oh,

566
00:33:05,850 --> 00:33:09,150
this is the lesbian which I
don't give a shit that she's a

567
00:33:09,150 --> 00:33:13,560
lesbian. But this is the I'm
Rachel Maddow on CNN woman. Do

568
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,800
you know what it is now? No. Oh,
you got to look at machine and

569
00:33:16,950 --> 00:33:19,680
look at Sally cone. You know
her, you know her, you need to

570
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,840
really need to look at Koh and
it really

571
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,780
would finally make this country
work for everyone. Or the woman

572
00:33:24,780 --> 00:33:28,650
who's running with an impeccable
and vast record of experience.

573
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,560
If that's not enough for people,
at least stopping us from

574
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:35,010
becoming Nazi Germany would
hopefully get Democrats and

575
00:33:35,010 --> 00:33:35,760
others to turnout

576
00:33:35,790 --> 00:33:39,060
just stop us from the UK. Please
help us from becoming Nazi

577
00:33:39,060 --> 00:33:42,060
Germany. Then do you see your
now

578
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:50,310
this did you notice she was a
she's an Olympic beach swim

579
00:33:50,310 --> 00:33:54,360
volleyball morons. Oh, no. Makes
total sense. CNN political

580
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:58,650
commentator essays keynote
speaker mom, she's not a

581
00:33:58,650 --> 00:34:00,210
lesbian. She is. She isn't

582
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,400
she's she's a lesbian who's a
mom.

583
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,920
And all this and then there were
this time looking at what I'm

584
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,660
looking at very old fashioned
thinking of you,

585
00:34:09,660 --> 00:34:11,700
John. Is this not

586
00:34:11,700 --> 00:34:15,930
really provide just a she's a
mom. Okay. Professional

587
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:23,820
optimist. from Brooklyn. She
looks like a jerk. Yeah. Yeah.

588
00:34:23,850 --> 00:34:28,080
And then on her Twitter thing
she's got vote as her vote

589
00:34:28,110 --> 00:34:28,800
artwork.

590
00:34:29,820 --> 00:34:32,910
Vote to stop us from becoming a
Nazi Germany.

591
00:34:32,940 --> 00:34:35,310
Oh, how do you have these people
on his commentators at all here?

592
00:34:35,310 --> 00:34:38,100
She hears her pinned tweet.
There's the tweet like your pin

593
00:34:38,130 --> 00:34:42,300
tweeted the trailer. Yeah. The
pinned tweet is this is not a

594
00:34:42,300 --> 00:34:46,740
drill. Trump could become
president. Y'all wake up and do

595
00:34:46,740 --> 00:34:47,520
something

596
00:34:51,990 --> 00:34:55,620
barely started finally started
to look at Melania which is

597
00:34:55,620 --> 00:35:02,310
good. We don't hear our
Potential First Lady speaking

598
00:35:02,310 --> 00:35:07,830
very much in public. But pooper
interviewed Buber is so

599
00:35:07,830 --> 00:35:15,540
enamoured with her business. She
he was kind of fawning over the

600
00:35:15,540 --> 00:35:21,390
way. You often see gay guys and
beautiful model like women, you

601
00:35:21,390 --> 00:35:26,340
had, I was just waiting for
Anderson to go, hey girl. Almost

602
00:35:26,430 --> 00:35:30,750
he had that goofy look on his
face, which is not very

603
00:35:30,750 --> 00:35:34,140
professional. But this is our
first kind of experience with

604
00:35:34,140 --> 00:35:39,240
Melania speaking and she sounds
like a for sure her own person,

605
00:35:39,270 --> 00:35:43,200
we are both very independent and
let him be who he is. And he

606
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:47,400
lets me be who I am. And try to
change him. I don't try to

607
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:52,740
change him. He's an adult, he
knows the consequences. And so I

608
00:35:52,740 --> 00:35:56,580
let him be who he is. I give him
my opinions many, many times.

609
00:35:57,060 --> 00:36:00,900
Yes. And I don't agree with
everything. But he says, But you

610
00:36:00,900 --> 00:36:05,100
know, that is normal. I'm my own
person. I tell him what I think

611
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:10,230
I'm standing very strong on the
ground on my two feet, and she's

612
00:36:10,230 --> 00:36:13,980
got feet on the ground. And I'm
my own person and

613
00:36:14,009 --> 00:36:16,319
sounds like they have a very
healthy marriage. Actually, when

614
00:36:16,319 --> 00:36:17,009
listen to this.

615
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,920
I think that's the relationship.
Do you know? Can

616
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:21,600
you say something where you
disagreed with

617
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,670
him? It's usually can you say
something like, can you say

618
00:36:23,670 --> 00:36:26,220
something mean? Please? Can you
just say something mean?

619
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:32,970
Oh, many things. Some language
of course. Some language. I

620
00:36:32,970 --> 00:36:35,940
didn't hear him using the
campaign especially I was in New

621
00:36:35,940 --> 00:36:40,050
Hampshire when the woman was
shouting out the this was the

622
00:36:40,050 --> 00:36:43,200
policy comment and appropriate
word. Right. And I was there and

623
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,800
I'm thinking like, Don't repeat
that in my head just for him.

624
00:36:46,830 --> 00:36:51,240
Don't repeat it. Just don't say
it because the next day media

625
00:36:51,300 --> 00:36:55,080
all they will talk is about
that. But he repeated his with

626
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,980
the momentum. He goes with the
flow he goes with with the

627
00:36:58,980 --> 00:37:03,180
people they having fun.
Everybody were cheering. And you

628
00:37:03,180 --> 00:37:06,870
know, he said it and the next
day, but he repeated the word

629
00:37:06,900 --> 00:37:09,630
that was not his word. So

630
00:37:10,650 --> 00:37:12,450
he heard from you about that.
Yeah,

631
00:37:12,450 --> 00:37:13,740
I've told him that. Yes.

632
00:37:15,180 --> 00:37:18,600
Good old Melania. She sounds
nice.

633
00:37:20,070 --> 00:37:21,660
Yeah, she seems explicit.

634
00:37:23,460 --> 00:37:28,170
What we're what we're talking
about hot women. Yeah, and hot

635
00:37:28,170 --> 00:37:29,160
Republican women.

636
00:37:29,430 --> 00:37:32,550
Something that hasn't changed.
Caitlyn is still a staunch

637
00:37:32,550 --> 00:37:35,940
Republican, which led to some
heated exchanges during the

638
00:37:35,940 --> 00:37:37,590
group's bus travels across the

639
00:37:37,590 --> 00:37:40,650
country. We're promoting the
Caitlyn show again, new season

640
00:37:40,650 --> 00:37:45,270
coming up, then the problem now
is everyone's totally okay with,

641
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:49,200
with Bruce Jenner being Caitlyn
Jenner. But the fact that he's a

642
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,150
republican is a brain freeze.

643
00:37:51,630 --> 00:37:54,660
But I'm not blaming it on
Republicans and conservatives.

644
00:37:54,810 --> 00:37:58,890
The politics was tough on the
Republican side of the battle,

645
00:37:58,890 --> 00:38:03,630
we do get a candidate. I
certainly will.

646
00:38:03,660 --> 00:38:07,380
Man this guy has done nothing
for his voice. doesn't care. He

647
00:38:07,380 --> 00:38:10,980
does not it's he has done
absolutely nothing get a

648
00:38:10,980 --> 00:38:14,220
candidate and not that you have
to but you know, what I've seen?

649
00:38:14,220 --> 00:38:17,430
It's kind of kind of part of the
process.

650
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:22,590
I certainly will talk to them. I
and I admit that the Democrats

651
00:38:22,590 --> 00:38:26,880
when it comes as far as trans
issues are better than the

652
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:27,750
Republicans.

653
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:36,030
All right, Caitlin getting in
getting grief. Okay, let us go

654
00:38:36,030 --> 00:38:44,580
to let me see. Yeah, this is a
good one. This is the Morning

655
00:38:44,580 --> 00:38:47,340
Joe Show. I was just twiddling
the dial for days trying to pick

656
00:38:47,340 --> 00:38:51,240
up stuff about what people are
saying this morning, Joe and

657
00:38:51,300 --> 00:38:56,400
this is about the there was
apparently Trump had an Off The

658
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,160
Record meeting with the New York
Times editorial board

659
00:38:59,220 --> 00:39:02,730
they're all right all these guys
especially the TV guys, the

660
00:39:02,730 --> 00:39:05,520
radio guys not so much are all
over this.

661
00:39:06,450 --> 00:39:09,540
So first of all, the editorial
board these are the people who

662
00:39:09,540 --> 00:39:14,970
do the the op eds and say Trump
is Hitler. It's seems like it's

663
00:39:15,180 --> 00:39:18,030
rather odd to have an off the
record meeting with the

664
00:39:18,030 --> 00:39:20,370
editorial board. Does the
editorial board even take

665
00:39:20,370 --> 00:39:22,770
meetings like that? Is that
typical? I don't know anything

666
00:39:22,770 --> 00:39:23,550
about the

667
00:39:25,350 --> 00:39:28,800
what are you say? The agreement
was that it would be some of

668
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,100
them beyond the record so be off
the record and they recorded the

669
00:39:32,100 --> 00:39:35,280
whole thing and they're
threatening to release well they

670
00:39:35,310 --> 00:39:38,640
someone leaked it someone leaked
that they even existed and that

671
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:42,900
for that seems like the first of
all the New York Times doing

672
00:39:42,900 --> 00:39:45,780
doing anything off the record
seems odd for the paper of

673
00:39:45,780 --> 00:39:48,660
record. And but then to leave

674
00:39:49,290 --> 00:39:50,820
plenty of stuff off the record.

675
00:39:51,420 --> 00:39:54,870
But they're leaking the fact
that something is there. They're

676
00:39:54,870 --> 00:39:55,350
making the

677
00:39:56,700 --> 00:40:00,720
kind of know what it is. What is
it? Yeah, I mean, it's been

678
00:40:00,720 --> 00:40:05,460
deconstructed by the lie these
guys for a while. It's he's

679
00:40:05,610 --> 00:40:08,940
apparently said that you know
the stuff I'm talking about when

680
00:40:08,940 --> 00:40:10,920
I'm talking about immigration,
I'm not gonna really do a lot of

681
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,460
stuff. Everything's bad, bad
everything's negotiable. Yeah,

682
00:40:14,460 --> 00:40:17,220
everything's negotiable. That's
where I am. And they don't worry

683
00:40:17,220 --> 00:40:19,650
about some of this stuff. I
mean, I say it because people

684
00:40:19,650 --> 00:40:24,210
like to hear it and that kind of
thing, supposedly, where he's

685
00:40:24,210 --> 00:40:29,130
being just amenable and, and the
idea I would think, since it's

686
00:40:29,130 --> 00:40:32,730
part of his in the group
negotiation strategy would be to

687
00:40:32,730 --> 00:40:34,620
get them to lighten up.

688
00:40:37,020 --> 00:40:39,330
Let's listen to the morning,
Joe, a deconstruction of what

689
00:40:39,330 --> 00:40:39,720
happened

690
00:40:39,990 --> 00:40:43,740
here, either the New York Times,
supposedly the gold standard,

691
00:40:43,740 --> 00:40:48,120
right? Having information from
an Off The Record Editorial

692
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:52,470
Board meeting late, they would
never do that in a million years

693
00:40:52,470 --> 00:40:55,830
to Hillary Clinton. They never
do it to Marco Rubio. They never

694
00:40:55,830 --> 00:40:58,980
even do it to Ted Cruz. Not even

695
00:40:59,460 --> 00:41:00,510
yours, Joe, not

696
00:41:01,020 --> 00:41:04,110
do that. Leak about some kind of

697
00:41:04,110 --> 00:41:07,440
off the record recording. Oh,
it's somebody inside the Oh, of

698
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:08,850
course, it was some douche
someone

699
00:41:08,850 --> 00:41:10,440
in the on the editorial board,
no doubt.

700
00:41:11,610 --> 00:41:13,410
But they're doing it to Donald
Trump

701
00:41:13,470 --> 00:41:16,470
to great journalism story from
time to time, the New York Times

702
00:41:16,470 --> 00:41:20,340
will make pronouncements about
its policies in the handling of

703
00:41:20,340 --> 00:41:24,690
on the record comment background
off the record, saying that we

704
00:41:24,690 --> 00:41:27,870
won't allow off the record
dispensation and be granted to

705
00:41:27,870 --> 00:41:31,470
sources you can talk on the
record. So why was the New York

706
00:41:31,470 --> 00:41:34,530
Times having an off the record
editorial board session with a

707
00:41:34,530 --> 00:41:38,490
presidential candidate? Being
that it's off the record? Why is

708
00:41:38,490 --> 00:41:42,330
it leaking? Now? Who's leaking
it at the New York Times? What's

709
00:41:42,330 --> 00:41:45,210
the policy with regard to
attribution at the New York

710
00:41:45,210 --> 00:41:48,060
Times? I'll tell you, if I was
running the Donald Trump

711
00:41:48,060 --> 00:41:51,630
campaign, every New York Times
reporter on that plane would be

712
00:41:51,660 --> 00:41:52,080
off? I

713
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,840
would I would tell them on a
less Yeah,

714
00:41:55,020 --> 00:41:58,920
they clarify the attributional
policies of the newspaper. I

715
00:41:58,920 --> 00:41:59,760
agree with you here.

716
00:41:59,790 --> 00:42:03,090
I agree with you. Every single
New York Times reporter to be

717
00:42:03,090 --> 00:42:07,350
kicked off the plane should not
be given press access anything

718
00:42:07,470 --> 00:42:11,010
to the editor of the New York
Times explains to the candidate

719
00:42:11,220 --> 00:42:14,160
and explains to readers exactly
what happened.

720
00:42:16,110 --> 00:42:17,640
Well, I don't think that's gonna
happen.

721
00:42:18,720 --> 00:42:21,510
No, it's gonna be pointless to
kick the reporters off the

722
00:42:21,510 --> 00:42:22,410
plane. Yeah.

723
00:42:23,850 --> 00:42:29,370
MSNBC made me laugh. You might
have seen this clip the N after

724
00:42:29,370 --> 00:42:34,470
the demise of Melissa Harris
Perry. Now that she's gone, that

725
00:42:34,500 --> 00:42:37,500
they're a disarray. They've been
in disarray for a while but

726
00:42:37,529 --> 00:42:41,099
well, Comcast, you know, who
tends to be Republican. When

727
00:42:41,099 --> 00:42:46,019
they bought NBC. They knew they
had to revamp it, the MSNBC but

728
00:42:46,019 --> 00:42:48,539
they had to do it in a kind and
gentle way. Otherwise, it would

729
00:42:48,539 --> 00:42:52,409
be called out. So they've been
doing it. They've been slowly

730
00:42:52,409 --> 00:42:56,099
that's why Ed Schultz is out of
there. Finally, and he's, you

731
00:42:56,099 --> 00:42:57,179
know, working for the

732
00:42:57,210 --> 00:43:00,390
I actually got a clip from Ed
Schultz from RT this is like,

733
00:43:00,390 --> 00:43:03,960
I've never seen this show. Find
it. He's doing some good stuff.

734
00:43:04,770 --> 00:43:06,330
It's crazy funny.

735
00:43:06,690 --> 00:43:09,720
It's really doing some
interesting thing. madmen. So

736
00:43:09,720 --> 00:43:13,530
MSNBC, there may be still some
Republican elements in the

737
00:43:13,530 --> 00:43:18,330
control room. Because there was
a setup with a guest. And the

738
00:43:18,330 --> 00:43:22,200
whole idea is to say, well, you
know, Donald Trump racist black

739
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,330
people don't want to vote for
him. There's a lot of the

740
00:43:24,330 --> 00:43:27,300
commentary continues. Only
here's why we only have

741
00:43:27,330 --> 00:43:29,700
apparently white people and
black people in America. There's

742
00:43:29,700 --> 00:43:32,130
no yellow, there's no red,
there's no brown. It's only

743
00:43:32,130 --> 00:43:35,430
black and white. I'm so sick and
tired of hearing it. So when

744
00:43:35,430 --> 00:43:39,600
this happened, it was funnier
than anything I've seen of their

745
00:43:39,630 --> 00:43:41,490
race baiting coverage.

746
00:43:41,549 --> 00:43:44,519
If you're Donald Trump, why
would a cake AK white

747
00:43:44,519 --> 00:43:47,969
supremacist guy want people to
vote for you? That's a question

748
00:43:47,969 --> 00:43:49,619
that Donald Trump needs to be
asked. Well,

749
00:43:49,620 --> 00:43:52,590
the question is also being
asked. Well, a lot of attention

750
00:43:52,590 --> 00:43:55,050
has been placed on his
candidacy, Donald Trump in the

751
00:43:55,050 --> 00:43:55,620
media and

752
00:43:55,620 --> 00:43:58,050
you're watching you said the
controlling sound but you're

753
00:43:58,050 --> 00:44:00,870
gonna sound by when I go live to
the Trump rally and CLI those

754
00:44:00,870 --> 00:44:01,800
racist assholes.

755
00:44:01,980 --> 00:44:05,190
You have report saying, Listen,
what about his supporters? What

756
00:44:05,190 --> 00:44:08,250
are we learning about his
supporters, the new people truly

757
00:44:08,250 --> 00:44:12,120
that he is to his point,
bringing into the fold.

758
00:44:13,620 --> 00:44:16,560
Actually, one of our reporters
and I don't want to put the

759
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:20,100
wrong reporter here was just out
of the trap Trump campaign, I

760
00:44:20,100 --> 00:44:22,770
think we have the sound and my
team will have to tell me where

761
00:44:22,770 --> 00:44:26,340
they spoke with some Trump
supporters. Let's play what they

762
00:44:26,340 --> 00:44:26,700
said.

763
00:44:26,730 --> 00:44:31,980
Okay, so she gets a message
during the interview, interview

764
00:44:31,980 --> 00:44:34,680
ear and she's even touching her
ear. You know, one of those

765
00:44:34,950 --> 00:44:40,590
lieutenants Zulu moves? Yeah.
Oh, we have a reporter and he's

766
00:44:40,590 --> 00:44:44,070
live at the Trump rally and you
know, kk k and they've the Hey,

767
00:44:44,070 --> 00:44:46,050
Blake was breast supremacy,

768
00:44:46,500 --> 00:44:47,910
David Duke and people like that

769
00:44:47,910 --> 00:44:52,560
they come on. Now, this is a
huge black man. sitting in the

770
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:53,520
front row

771
00:44:54,030 --> 00:44:57,120
of rocks all the time around.
It's time to sit down and deal

772
00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:00,360
with Donald Trump. We're all
Americans. I think we To start

773
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,600
with the racist stuff in the
race. I mean, my friend right

774
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:04,230
here we just

775
00:45:04,230 --> 00:45:06,810
met today when he was talking
talking to old white guy next to

776
00:45:06,810 --> 00:45:06,930
him.

777
00:45:07,740 --> 00:45:10,650
We got to start with the racist
stuff. This that we all

778
00:45:10,650 --> 00:45:12,720
Americans, man, and nobody paid
me.

779
00:45:13,620 --> 00:45:16,770
Now they come back from this
from this piece.

780
00:45:17,910 --> 00:45:21,630
Clearly, let me just be clear
here. Obviously the majority of

781
00:45:21,630 --> 00:45:23,850
Donald Trump supporters are not
African American. I don't know

782
00:45:23,850 --> 00:45:26,940
how many African Americans were
in that, that building but that

783
00:45:26,940 --> 00:45:31,350
is one person that we have
chosen to cut that sound from

784
00:45:33,060 --> 00:45:39,120
suckered that was a good one.
Yeah, that isn't exist. That's

785
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:42,780
what's going on at MSNBC. They
got to get they're going to move

786
00:45:42,780 --> 00:45:45,540
in that direction. So they can I
don't know what to do with

787
00:45:45,540 --> 00:45:49,830
MSNBC. This clearly clearly that
don't know what to do. But this

788
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:55,890
is a good one thing that gets me
is that nobody on the nobody in

789
00:45:55,890 --> 00:45:59,880
the mainstream, especially on
MSNBC, is really writing Hillary

790
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,990
about her that commentary she
made in 1996. During her

791
00:46:03,990 --> 00:46:07,470
husband's administration, when
they passed all these these most

792
00:46:07,470 --> 00:46:13,800
of the laws that were that bill
passed crime laws crime bills

793
00:46:13,830 --> 00:46:17,220
resulted in the high rate of
black incarceration and then a

794
00:46:17,220 --> 00:46:19,920
lot of the black community the
intellectuals in the black

795
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,440
community all know this and
they're not voting for her

796
00:46:22,740 --> 00:46:25,500
they're voting for Bernie or
they'll they'll switch over they

797
00:46:25,500 --> 00:46:28,350
just won't vote for but there's
a I have one little rundown on

798
00:46:28,350 --> 00:46:30,990
the latest one another example
took place where some black

799
00:46:30,990 --> 00:46:37,560
woman or millennial confronted
Hillary in a in a in public and

800
00:46:37,590 --> 00:46:40,920
discuss this about what's this
about under under your heels and

801
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:44,340
it's kind of explained you this
under your heels. Yeah, you

802
00:46:44,340 --> 00:46:45,780
don't you probably didn't I
missed

803
00:46:45,780 --> 00:46:47,460
this. I missed this. Okay. Ask
it.

804
00:46:48,750 --> 00:46:51,810
Sorry. Yeah. You got the clip
there. Yeah, ABC Republican

805
00:46:51,810 --> 00:46:54,510
explains it. Senator are coming
together.

806
00:46:55,350 --> 00:46:56,070
Uniting.

807
00:46:57,570 --> 00:47:00,660
Right now that's not happening,
which is why Republicans are

808
00:47:00,660 --> 00:47:01,050
Shi'ites.

809
00:47:01,110 --> 00:47:03,750
This was ABC Republican rundown.
That's what I said. I know this

810
00:47:03,750 --> 00:47:07,800
from Democracy Now. So let me
see what the clip is called.

811
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,710
It's under heel dn

812
00:47:10,740 --> 00:47:13,470
on the campaign trail, Hillary
Clinton has again faced

813
00:47:13,470 --> 00:47:17,100
questioning about her
controversial 1996 comments

814
00:47:17,100 --> 00:47:20,580
about some black youth whom she
called super predators. On

815
00:47:20,580 --> 00:47:24,120
Tuesday, Clinton was confronted
by a young Somali American woman

816
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:28,020
during the Clinton campaign stop
in a coffee shop in Minneapolis.

817
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,410
She asked the former Secretary
of State about her super

818
00:47:31,410 --> 00:47:34,260
predator comments and Hillary
want to buy some weeds. The

819
00:47:34,260 --> 00:47:36,990
quiet back and forth ended with
Hillary Clinton growing

820
00:47:36,990 --> 00:47:39,690
frustrated and telling the young
woman quote, well, why don't you

821
00:47:39,690 --> 00:47:43,170
go run for something then? This
comes about a week after Black

822
00:47:43,170 --> 00:47:45,990
Lives Matter activist Ashley
Williams confronted Hillary

823
00:47:45,990 --> 00:47:49,110
Clinton about her comments
during a private fundraiser in

824
00:47:49,110 --> 00:47:50,790
Charleston, South Carolina.

825
00:47:52,620 --> 00:47:55,530
South Carolina, funny because
this woman came in with a big

826
00:47:55,530 --> 00:48:01,530
sign. And it had to do with the
blacks are predators and they

827
00:48:01,530 --> 00:48:03,540
should be put under our heel.

828
00:48:04,950 --> 00:48:06,480
Heel, wow, yeah, it

829
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:10,530
says it was like a booted heel.
Yeah, something like that. I

830
00:48:10,530 --> 00:48:15,780
mean, that's what the inference
was. And it's gotten it's gotten

831
00:48:15,780 --> 00:48:19,020
a lot of play in the progressive
side of things and Democracy Now

832
00:48:19,020 --> 00:48:22,260
it was all over with a head that
Ashley Euro from Black Lives

833
00:48:22,260 --> 00:48:26,820
Matter on the show going on a
bunch very, very sharp this girl

834
00:48:27,270 --> 00:48:30,690
and and this is going on as an
undercurrent, even you haven't

835
00:48:30,690 --> 00:48:33,660
heard about it. That's because
nobody else except that super

836
00:48:33,660 --> 00:48:37,620
progressives that are all in for
Bernie are talking about it. And

837
00:48:37,650 --> 00:48:40,920
even Bernie doesn't really talk
about it, even though it has

838
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,920
hinted that Bill and passed
these laws that has resulted in

839
00:48:43,980 --> 00:48:48,360
half the black community being
in jail or on their way, and a

840
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:52,560
lot of blacks kind of know about
it, but they're all progressive,

841
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,170
or they're for Bernie already,
the majority of the black

842
00:48:55,170 --> 00:48:57,330
community, as you could tell by
the results in South Carolina

843
00:48:57,330 --> 00:49:01,320
and elsewhere. Georgia, they
haven't got a clue. Okay, well,

844
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:02,670
whatever we like her

845
00:49:02,700 --> 00:49:09,240
what I find so disturbing.
Basically disgusting. Is how

846
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:13,530
black Americans are being abused
in this entire race by both

847
00:49:13,530 --> 00:49:17,070
sides. As long as we can get
blacks then we're good to go.

848
00:49:17,070 --> 00:49:19,170
And they love us. They don't
love you. They love us. They

849
00:49:19,170 --> 00:49:23,160
love him. They don't it's it
really black Americans should

850
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:27,120
rise up and say Screw this crap.
And Van Jones should be the guy

851
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:30,780
they put up front as screw this
crap up. Something happened on

852
00:49:30,780 --> 00:49:36,060
CNN, which became their, their
main focus. It's been that way

853
00:49:36,060 --> 00:49:40,830
for the past 36 hours. It was
after the debate. And it was Van

854
00:49:40,830 --> 00:49:49,590
Jones, who used to work for
President Obama. He's like a,

855
00:49:50,190 --> 00:49:53,580
like an all in climate guy.
Yeah, professional commentator.

856
00:49:54,240 --> 00:50:01,050
And also on the panel was
Jeffrey Lord and Geoffrey law. I

857
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:05,520
recognise his face. So I think
he's also just a CNN guy, but he

858
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,340
apparently has been on the Trump
Train since the beginning and

859
00:50:08,340 --> 00:50:10,890
said, Now this is going to work,
this guy is going to do it. So

860
00:50:10,890 --> 00:50:14,640
now he's on every single show,
because he's the guy that called

861
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:20,250
Trump, as you know, as a winner.
And, and he's getting a lot of

862
00:50:20,250 --> 00:50:25,830
grief. But what happened is Van
Jones turned this into a huge

863
00:50:25,830 --> 00:50:32,160
racial issue. I mean, I mean,
really, really disturbing what

864
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:36,480
he what his initial premise for
this argument was, it was

865
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:40,650
beautiful to watch because it
was on late, for the first time

866
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:44,520
on any cable news programme to
people were kind of being real.

867
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,700
You know, it's like, oh, wow,
there's an actual argument. It's

868
00:50:47,700 --> 00:50:52,770
not scripted, the gonad each
other, and the Jeffrey Lord guy,

869
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:57,450
when he was essentially being
called a racist, and and

870
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:00,330
protecting a racist. And then he
turns around, says, you know,

871
00:51:00,330 --> 00:51:02,880
this is exactly what the
Democrats and the Liberals do.

872
00:51:02,940 --> 00:51:08,160
You always use race to divide.
And the thing was, it was, it

873
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,890
was really the two sides that we
have discussed on the programme

874
00:51:10,890 --> 00:51:14,280
many times, butting heads
against each other. It's long,

875
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:17,160
so when we want to dump out we
can dump out. And then I have a

876
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:20,310
follow up where Van Jones is,
you know, he's like the second

877
00:51:20,310 --> 00:51:24,210
coming of Martin Luther King,
about him being so having the

878
00:51:24,210 --> 00:51:28,380
courage to have this, this
conversation. So you gain for

879
00:51:28,380 --> 00:51:30,480
listening a bit of this fight?
Yeah, go.

880
00:51:31,710 --> 00:51:34,290
The things that Donald Trump has
done and not just in this race,

881
00:51:34,590 --> 00:51:38,130
are horrible offensive, you can
go back with this guy for a long

882
00:51:38,130 --> 00:51:40,080
time, I want to talk, I want to
talk because

883
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:43,410
I didn't say anything. You Bri.
Now they're sitting next to each

884
00:51:43,410 --> 00:51:46,530
other. And Van Jones does
something continuously, which I

885
00:51:46,530 --> 00:51:49,890
really dislike. When he says I
want to let me talk let me

886
00:51:49,890 --> 00:51:52,800
finish or whenever he's making a
point, he takes his right hand

887
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,890
and he puts it on the guy's
shoulder. And he's holding his

888
00:51:55,890 --> 00:51:59,520
shoulder while he's talking in
his face. It was really, really

889
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:00,000
aggressive.

890
00:52:01,530 --> 00:52:04,710
You can go back to the central
jogger case where he came out

891
00:52:04,770 --> 00:52:09,240
and had innocent black kids want
to have kids? Well, that's

892
00:52:10,020 --> 00:52:12,840
because it listen to one second.
We have a big problem at this

893
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:13,260
point. Now.

894
00:52:13,650 --> 00:52:16,170
I think the guy called it
properly. Right off the bat. He

895
00:52:16,170 --> 00:52:18,210
said Donald Trump, the innocent
black kids,

896
00:52:18,210 --> 00:52:21,420
I agree with you about a lot. I
think that we have taken him not

897
00:52:21,420 --> 00:52:24,990
seriously. We have not respected
his voters. But there is a dark

898
00:52:24,990 --> 00:52:28,590
underside here. And so he is
right. He is whipping up and

899
00:52:28,590 --> 00:52:31,440
tapping into and punching
buttons that are very, very

900
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:33,720
frightening to me, like
frightening to a lot of people.

901
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,300
So but he feels threatened as a
black man is what I'm hearing

902
00:52:36,300 --> 00:52:36,630
him say

903
00:52:36,660 --> 00:52:43,530
number one, when he is playing
funny with the Klan. That is not

904
00:52:43,530 --> 00:52:47,910
cool. He did you. I know this
man when he gets passionate

905
00:52:47,910 --> 00:52:51,780
about terrorism. I know how he
talks about terrorism. The Klan

906
00:52:51,780 --> 00:52:53,880
is a terrorist organisation that
is killed left and the

907
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,130
terrorists that it was you can
put whatever label you want you

908
00:52:56,130 --> 00:52:59,280
want. That's your that's your
game to play? Oh, no, they're

909
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,880
not like that game. Now not
gonna understand. Oh, no, no,

910
00:53:02,910 --> 00:53:07,410
you need to take a serious look
at the fact that this man has

911
00:53:07,650 --> 00:53:10,680
playing fast and loose and
footsy when when you talked

912
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:13,980
about terrorism, he gets
passionate. He says no, this is

913
00:53:13,980 --> 00:53:16,650
wrong. But when he talks about
the Klan, oh, I don't know. I

914
00:53:16,650 --> 00:53:19,020
don't know. That's wrong. And
then you came on the air. And

915
00:53:19,020 --> 00:53:22,620
you said, Well, this is just
like, when Reverend Wright was

916
00:53:22,620 --> 00:53:25,590
speaking. Yeah, right and
lynched anybody? Reverend right?

917
00:53:25,590 --> 00:53:29,430
never killed anybody. Right,
whatever, right? Never put

918
00:53:29,430 --> 00:53:33,000
anybody on a post and you guys
play these word games. And it's

919
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:34,470
wrong to do in America.

920
00:53:34,500 --> 00:53:37,950
It is wrong. It is wrong to
understand that these are not

921
00:53:37,950 --> 00:53:39,360
leftist. They were

922
00:53:40,770 --> 00:53:42,570
doesn't make a lot of different.

923
00:53:44,310 --> 00:53:46,110
People are not Don't play games
with that.

924
00:53:46,290 --> 00:53:50,460
So his problem Van Jones problem
is that Trump when he talks

925
00:53:50,460 --> 00:53:53,760
about terrorism, he's really mad
and angry and aggressive when

926
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:58,050
when it comes to racism against
black Americans. He's not

927
00:53:58,050 --> 00:54:00,810
aggressive enough. This is this
is the premise of the whole

928
00:54:00,810 --> 00:54:01,350
argument.

929
00:54:01,380 --> 00:54:02,310
You're right. You're

930
00:54:02,310 --> 00:54:04,770
right. And you don't hide that
say that's not part of the base

931
00:54:04,770 --> 00:54:07,980
of the Democratic Party that has
been they were the military arm,

932
00:54:07,980 --> 00:54:10,140
the terrorist arm of the
Democratic Party, According to

933
00:54:10,140 --> 00:54:12,900
historians have for God's sakes
read your history, though. I

934
00:54:12,900 --> 00:54:15,690
listen. I'm not. I don't know. I
don't care. His whole

935
00:54:15,690 --> 00:54:18,570
attitude of abiding by race is
still here. And this is how

936
00:54:18,570 --> 00:54:19,500
Democrats here.

937
00:54:20,070 --> 00:54:23,940
They voted 50 years ago. I care
about who they killed and I care

938
00:54:23,940 --> 00:54:26,430
about American history. It
counts you have stood with

939
00:54:26,430 --> 00:54:27,750
Donald Trump. Now let's

940
00:54:28,590 --> 00:54:32,580
take a break for a second. Is
that true? Is it Klu Klux Klan

941
00:54:32,580 --> 00:54:35,550
by by the way, it's Ku Klux
Klan, but here, one one person

942
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:39,480
Klux Klan, where they left his
terrorist organisation.

943
00:54:39,570 --> 00:54:41,370
They were left as there were
Democrats

944
00:54:42,570 --> 00:54:46,380
better. Well, he doesn't want to
hear about it our van

945
00:54:46,500 --> 00:54:48,030
and you have made a case well,
this

946
00:54:48,030 --> 00:54:51,900
is kind of interesting, because
if there's a this when they when

947
00:54:51,900 --> 00:54:54,720
arguments start taking place,
for example, he starts talking

948
00:54:54,720 --> 00:54:59,580
about the killings that the Ku
Klux Klan managed to orchestrate

949
00:54:59,580 --> 00:55:04,140
yes which was a while ago, but
meanwhile he's talking about,

950
00:55:04,170 --> 00:55:08,700
you know, who's killing who. And
and then he accused somebody of

951
00:55:08,700 --> 00:55:13,050
being a murderer. But then David
Dukes in the not mentioned, but

952
00:55:13,050 --> 00:55:16,410
he's in the conversation. And he
hasn't killed anybody if he did

953
00:55:16,410 --> 00:55:20,070
he should be in jail. And the
whole thing is mixed up because

954
00:55:20,070 --> 00:55:24,390
of this. The Democrats have. And
I think Hillary's little

955
00:55:24,390 --> 00:55:29,460
commentary, but the Black should
be under our heel approves it is

956
00:55:29,460 --> 00:55:33,360
like part of his just almost
like a giant scam. Because the

957
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:36,690
Republicans are the ones who
historically have benefited the

958
00:55:36,690 --> 00:55:41,280
blacks the most, including
Lincoln. And what happened?

959
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:45,960
Well, mainly, but what happened
over the over over time is that

960
00:55:45,990 --> 00:55:52,530
and this began just during Nixon
or maybe before they decided to

961
00:55:52,530 --> 00:55:55,680
because it was always locked.
The Democrats had the south. And

962
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:58,800
they were called Dixiecrats,
they were renamed kind of, but

963
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:01,620
they're all this South was just
run by Democrats in the voting

964
00:56:01,620 --> 00:56:04,170
rights problems. And all the
rest of it was all instituted by

965
00:56:04,170 --> 00:56:09,540
Democrats. It was all Democrats
structure. And the Republicans

966
00:56:09,810 --> 00:56:12,630
during I think just prior to
Nixon realised that if they

967
00:56:12,630 --> 00:56:18,420
could take over the south with
the so called Southern Strategy,

968
00:56:18,660 --> 00:56:22,290
which was the kind of the first
SERP that what the Democrats are

969
00:56:22,290 --> 00:56:27,120
up to, and kind of go in there
as, unfortunately, I think it's

970
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:30,870
a negative thing. But they came
in as kind of full racists in

971
00:56:30,870 --> 00:56:34,800
the south to kind of move the
Democrats out of their position

972
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:38,040
is that we can outdo you. And we
can be we're better for this,

973
00:56:38,100 --> 00:56:41,760
these groups. And they came in
took over the South. And with

974
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:45,090
that they had all this leverage
to win a lot of elections. And

975
00:56:45,090 --> 00:56:47,940
they won Nixon, and Reagan and
all these guys use the Southern

976
00:56:47,940 --> 00:56:51,480
strategy to get an office
because it gets sweep the south

977
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:53,940
pretty much and it wasn't enough
to take the whole country

978
00:56:53,940 --> 00:56:56,670
because the big states are
Pennsylvania, and Ohio and

979
00:56:56,670 --> 00:56:59,640
California, which are Democrat
states, generally, Ohio does

980
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:04,620
swing both ways than California.
So what you ended up with was

981
00:57:04,620 --> 00:57:08,760
this very strange mix of one
side being on one side, one to

982
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:11,490
flip flopping this way, that
way. And so this kind of

983
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:14,490
argument, if you don't have a
historical perspective leads to

984
00:57:14,490 --> 00:57:18,480
what Van Jones comes up with
which Republicans are all bad,

985
00:57:18,630 --> 00:57:19,950
and they suck,

986
00:57:20,009 --> 00:57:23,669
and they're racist and black.
But what's worse is he's

987
00:57:23,669 --> 00:57:26,549
shouting down the guy saying,
Excuse me, this is American

988
00:57:26,549 --> 00:57:29,999
history, it does count. And this
is what the Democrats have done

989
00:57:29,999 --> 00:57:32,789
historically. So he just just
doesn't want to hear it.

990
00:57:32,850 --> 00:57:35,130
I care about American history,
it counts you

991
00:57:35,129 --> 00:57:37,949
have stood with Donald Trump,
and you have made a case for

992
00:57:37,949 --> 00:57:39,869
Donald Trump, but nobody else
wanted to and you've earned the

993
00:57:39,869 --> 00:57:43,019
respect of an awful lot of
people. But when you do not

994
00:57:43,049 --> 00:57:45,839
acknowledge that he did not
answer that question with the

995
00:57:45,839 --> 00:57:49,829
passion gets answered with other
terrorist organisations, you do

996
00:57:49,829 --> 00:57:51,659
yourself a disservice. You do.
Your key has

997
00:57:52,109 --> 00:57:56,189
made this point over and over
and over again. This is a media

998
00:57:56,189 --> 00:57:59,069
thing here. Did he make a
mistake when he sure but he has

999
00:57:59,069 --> 00:58:02,369
said this many, many times. I've
gone back and look, he's well on

1000
00:58:02,369 --> 00:58:04,799
record over and over and over
again is worse

1001
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:07,440
than that, sir. It's worse than
that. That whole thing with

1002
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:10,470
those central jogger kids he got
the entire city of New York

1003
00:58:10,470 --> 00:58:12,660
whipped up on this idea that
these kids have done something

1004
00:58:12,660 --> 00:58:13,110
wrong. This has

1005
00:58:13,109 --> 00:58:14,999
got to be something that's
coming out if you keep saying

1006
00:58:14,999 --> 00:58:18,359
central jogger kids he wouldn't
he mean Central Park Jogger

1007
00:58:18,359 --> 00:58:21,509
kids. There's something brewing
with this. There's something

1008
00:58:21,509 --> 00:58:23,909
that's going to come to the
forefront about Donald Trump's

1009
00:58:24,059 --> 00:58:27,449
reaction. I remember this. This
was this lady and he's a while

1010
00:58:27,449 --> 00:58:31,589
ago at late 80s. And I was in
New York. And I don't recall

1011
00:58:31,589 --> 00:58:34,349
everyone's saying Donald Trump
screwed those black kids but

1012
00:58:34,379 --> 00:58:38,609
maybe I wasn't aware at the time
that's possible. But Van Jones

1013
00:58:38,609 --> 00:58:41,579
is this is the second or third
time like a setup. It's a setup

1014
00:58:41,610 --> 00:58:43,230
and then when turned out they
were innocent. We all make

1015
00:58:43,230 --> 00:58:45,810
mistakes, right? He never
apologised to those kids. He

1016
00:58:45,810 --> 00:58:48,720
never apologised and that's
that's a stain on him and you

1017
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:51,720
can walk through time after time
where he's done stuff like that

1018
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:54,150
the stuff he said about Native
Americans being you know

1019
00:58:54,150 --> 00:58:57,300
criminal organisations and
markets he said so

1020
00:58:58,350 --> 00:59:00,750
what you're doing right here
what you're doing here is

1021
00:59:00,750 --> 00:59:03,870
dividing people we're all
Americans you are dividing

1022
00:59:03,870 --> 00:59:06,810
people this is what liberals Do
you are dividing people by race

1023
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:11,190
I am this is what liberalism is
all about clan divide half by

1024
00:59:11,190 --> 00:59:12,960
half a divided by race killed

1025
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:15,090
people by race and he had the
opportunity and he

1026
00:59:15,090 --> 00:59:18,090
did they did they did it to
further the progressive agenda.

1027
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:19,050
Why hello,

1028
00:59:19,050 --> 00:59:23,130
listen, that is first of all so
rude. Sir. It is no Democratic

1029
00:59:23,130 --> 00:59:25,950
Party of the South in the old
days with a racist party and you

1030
00:59:25,950 --> 00:59:28,290
are correct. You are correct,
sir. They were a violent party

1031
00:59:28,290 --> 00:59:28,590
and you how

1032
00:59:28,589 --> 00:59:30,929
do you think we got better
Wilson elect But hold on a sec.

1033
00:59:31,769 --> 00:59:33,539
What does that mean? What does
that mean?

1034
00:59:33,630 --> 00:59:37,530
Well, what happened? Wilson got
in because the Republican is

1035
00:59:37,530 --> 00:59:41,130
kind of funny, because you may
be seeing that again. But Teddy

1036
00:59:41,130 --> 00:59:46,350
Roosevelt was the president
before and they were probably

1037
00:59:46,350 --> 00:59:50,730
gives decided to run some
another guy. And so they ran

1038
00:59:50,730 --> 00:59:54,210
some guy in the convention. I
forgot who it was, but Rosa says

1039
00:59:54,210 --> 00:59:57,240
that's bull crap. I'm gonna run
it myself and he ran into the

1040
00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:01,830
Bull Moose Party created a new
borings. All, and so that that

1041
01:00:02,010 --> 01:00:08,670
never split the Republicans and
when Wilson Wald Stan, and okay,

1042
01:00:08,700 --> 01:00:10,890
that's one of the problems that
everyone always points to that

1043
01:00:10,890 --> 01:00:14,220
as a problem with that with
trying to browbeat you what

1044
01:00:14,220 --> 01:00:18,180
happened in 1856 with the
Republicans. But yeah, guess

1045
01:00:18,180 --> 01:00:19,620
what he's talking about? We got
a minute to run

1046
01:00:19,620 --> 01:00:23,400
here. That's not. So what are
you talking about that for? You

1047
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:24,060
played these

1048
01:00:24,060 --> 01:00:27,450
days, the Democratic Party and
the Democratic Party of today

1049
01:00:27,510 --> 01:00:28,830
divides by race.

1050
01:00:29,580 --> 01:00:34,680
I have a kid. Seven years old,
right? He can't even watch the I

1051
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:36,270
used to live one and say, I
don't want you to watch the

1052
01:00:36,270 --> 01:00:38,220
Kardashians. And once you watch
the news, you can learn

1053
01:00:38,220 --> 01:00:40,620
something. You know what?
Watching all this nonsense in

1054
01:00:40,620 --> 01:00:42,840
your party, he turns around and
says, you know, Dad, you're a

1055
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:45,690
liar. He doesn't even know what
the word means. But he sees so

1056
01:00:45,690 --> 01:00:48,780
much vitriol from your party. He
brings that into our house. Now

1057
01:00:48,780 --> 01:00:52,110
we got to have him watching Nick
Jr. He can't even deserved

1058
01:00:52,110 --> 01:00:55,290
civics because of what's going
on your party, the circus ring

1059
01:00:55,380 --> 01:00:56,580
in your bags do

1060
01:00:57,270 --> 01:00:59,910
is kids are being corrupted by
Donald Trump. This is these

1061
01:00:59,910 --> 01:01:02,100
horror bands and horrible that
stretch,

1062
01:01:02,100 --> 01:01:06,900
do not play until Donald Trump.
I know you. I trust you tell

1063
01:01:06,900 --> 01:01:09,780
Donald Trump, he needs for my
children's sake for the

1064
01:01:09,780 --> 01:01:12,090
children's sake of America, if
he's gonna leave this country,

1065
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:14,670
he needs to be as passionate
about what is happening have to

1066
01:01:14,670 --> 01:01:16,680
be my community as anybody else.

1067
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:19,500
We have to be passionate about
making sure that as Robert

1068
01:01:19,500 --> 01:01:22,980
Kennedy is to say that this
country is colorblind. We have

1069
01:01:22,980 --> 01:01:25,770
to as President Kennedy used to
say in that Birmingham speech,

1070
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:28,980
that race has no place in
American life or law. That's

1071
01:01:28,980 --> 01:01:31,830
what we have to do. And we have
lost that totally because the

1072
01:01:31,830 --> 01:01:35,010
Democratic Party insists on
dividing people by race and it's

1073
01:01:35,010 --> 01:01:37,410
wrong, morally wrong. Okay.

1074
01:01:37,860 --> 01:01:41,940
But what this became, like they
were doing soundbite after

1075
01:01:41,940 --> 01:01:44,850
soundbite and all look at this.
And, of course, you know, Van

1076
01:01:44,850 --> 01:01:48,540
Jones, you know, defending the
black man, because Donald Trump

1077
01:01:48,540 --> 01:01:54,360
didn't wasn't angry enough about
the Ku Klux Klan and David Duke,

1078
01:01:54,810 --> 01:01:59,130
so called endorsement, which
agree they totally mishandled

1079
01:01:59,130 --> 01:02:02,340
that. I'm not quite sure. You
know, none of none of the optics

1080
01:02:02,340 --> 01:02:06,210
of that were good the way he did
that. That's not good. It was a

1081
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:07,650
PR mess or

1082
01:02:07,650 --> 01:02:10,770
the exit very poorly exit. And
there's no reason for him to do

1083
01:02:10,770 --> 01:02:13,110
it. Because he's already it
doesn't have to do that. Now,

1084
01:02:13,110 --> 01:02:16,140
here's what's weird about it, is
he was already on the record,

1085
01:02:16,140 --> 01:02:20,010
because they have these clips of
him from 2008 going off on the

1086
01:02:20,010 --> 01:02:22,650
Klan. And Duke Yeah, and

1087
01:02:23,670 --> 01:02:28,080
that's what's odd. That's what's
odd. But you know, what? You and

1088
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:31,680
I know lots of people like
Donald Trump. That lots of rich,

1089
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:36,300
powerful people. And if we took
our comms razor for a moment,

1090
01:02:36,330 --> 01:02:39,900
and maybe Trump is going to do
exactly what he says he'll build

1091
01:02:39,900 --> 01:02:45,780
a wall, he'll fix the stuff with
China, and help the veterans and

1092
01:02:45,780 --> 01:02:50,730
that's all he's gonna do. And
I'll hook up with Putin, which I

1093
01:02:50,730 --> 01:02:52,170
like I like the Putin thing

1094
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:56,550
that Putin does got more it has
more legs than anyone realises.

1095
01:02:56,730 --> 01:02:59,940
I think that's the key to the
Republican hatred of him. The

1096
01:02:59,940 --> 01:03:05,070
Republican strategy right now
seems to be to do to not

1097
01:03:05,070 --> 01:03:07,470
separate white and black but
separate the Russians, the

1098
01:03:07,470 --> 01:03:10,560
United States. We were supposed
to be partners after the fall of

1099
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:13,920
communism a fall of the Soviet
Union. And they were supposed

1100
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:16,080
to, you know, work together and
the Russians are a little

1101
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:20,040
sketchy with some of the stuff
they do but to create the second

1102
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:25,710
Cold War for no apparent reason
than others have taken these

1103
01:03:25,710 --> 01:03:28,800
seven countries and taken over
the Middle East and being the

1104
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:33,510
war mongers is just doesn't seem
like the right way to go. And,

1105
01:03:33,570 --> 01:03:37,710
and only Trump is the one that
who is promoting this idea of de

1106
01:03:37,710 --> 01:03:42,780
taunt Yeah, which is an old word
with the Russians. Have and your

1107
01:03:42,780 --> 01:03:45,330
list here played it that NBC
clip that you are going to play

1108
01:03:45,330 --> 01:03:49,140
again, this is the rundown as we
speak of what's going on and the

1109
01:03:49,170 --> 01:03:52,590
kind of attacks that the I do
want to come back to this Van

1110
01:03:52,590 --> 01:03:55,110
Jones thing after this. Yeah,
you come back to that ask you to

1111
01:03:55,110 --> 01:03:59,370
prayerfully consider are coming
together. United.

1112
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:03,960
Right now that's not happening,
which is why top Republicans are

1113
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:07,290
sharpening their knives in a
last ditch effort to stop Trump.

1114
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:11,580
Mitt Romney tomorrow delivering
a major speech laying out the

1115
01:04:11,580 --> 01:04:14,730
case against the billionaire
piling on a slew of top

1116
01:04:14,730 --> 01:04:17,370
Republican donors and
conservative groups wanting to

1117
01:04:17,370 --> 01:04:20,640
blanket the airwaves with anti
Trump ads, Trump

1118
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:21,870
picks on workers and

1119
01:04:21,870 --> 01:04:25,620
widows. He won't do a thing to
China and Mexico.

1120
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:29,970
on Super Tuesday, Trump in his
palatial Palm Beach Golf Club,

1121
01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:31,590
watching election returns.

1122
01:04:32,250 --> 01:04:37,050
Just got to stop it there. Well
done on the on the hall looking

1123
01:04:37,050 --> 01:04:41,580
like the White House. Well done.
Mr. Trump. This you see that?

1124
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:45,150
And they use the word palatial
by the way to them, which is not

1125
01:04:45,150 --> 01:04:48,690
necessarily Yeah, it was very
good. He looked like the

1126
01:04:48,690 --> 01:04:50,430
brightness. It looks like that.
Anyway.

1127
01:04:51,660 --> 01:04:54,660
I liked that. That was a good
production

1128
01:04:54,690 --> 01:04:58,800
campaign juggernaut rolling on
and over his opponents tonight

1129
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:03,060
Dr. Ben Carson. indicating he'll
soon drop out right now the only

1130
01:05:03,060 --> 01:05:06,090
establishment name in Trump's
corner New Jersey Governor Chris

1131
01:05:06,090 --> 01:05:09,510
Christie, so many people
examining his face last night

1132
01:05:09,540 --> 01:05:13,680
standing behind the billionaire
today. 60 Jersey papers calling

1133
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:17,580
on Christie to resign, writing.
We're fed up with Governor Chris

1134
01:05:17,580 --> 01:05:20,880
Christie's arrogance. We're
disgusted with his endorsement

1135
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:21,450
of wow,

1136
01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:25,650
wow, that's like me reading an
email. Do you what he's doing?

1137
01:05:26,070 --> 01:05:28,980
were disgusted with the Bucha
he's doing a voice

1138
01:05:29,490 --> 01:05:32,220
fed up with Governor Chris
Christie's arrogates were

1139
01:05:32,220 --> 01:05:34,740
disgusted with his endorsement
of Donald Trump

1140
01:05:35,940 --> 01:05:39,300
is doing the voice. We're
discussing with a young girl and

1141
01:05:40,500 --> 01:05:44,010
she's arrogates were disgusted
with his endorsement of Donald

1142
01:05:44,010 --> 01:05:48,300
Trump. What an embarrassment.
What an utter disgrace. Donald

1143
01:05:48,300 --> 01:05:51,510
Trump. I can brush it all off
for he's setting his sights on

1144
01:05:51,510 --> 01:05:52,230
Hillary Clinton.

1145
01:05:52,590 --> 01:05:55,230
She wants to make America whole
again. And I'm trying to figure

1146
01:05:55,230 --> 01:05:58,620
out what is that all about? Make
America Great Again is going to

1147
01:05:58,620 --> 01:06:01,620
be much better than making
America Whole Again,

1148
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:04,650
was such an easy open door they
left for

1149
01:06:04,650 --> 01:06:07,350
him got to be a very interesting
race ahead. Tom Yamas. With us

1150
01:06:07,350 --> 01:06:10,800
live from Michigan tonight and
Tom Dr. Ben Carson has dropped

1151
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:12,930
out of the Fox debate tomorrow
night. What does this mean?

1152
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:17,520
That's right, David. His
campaign is now winding down.

1153
01:06:17,670 --> 01:06:19,920
But what many people are talking
about what many people are gonna

1154
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:22,620
be watching that debate? Donald
Trump is going to be face to

1155
01:06:22,620 --> 01:06:25,530
face with one of his biggest
enemies. Fox News is Megan

1156
01:06:25,530 --> 01:06:28,260
Kelly. You will remember they
had that epic war of words in

1157
01:06:28,260 --> 01:06:31,020
the first ever debate this
campaign season. Tomorrow night.

1158
01:06:31,020 --> 01:06:32,280
She's one of the CO moderators

1159
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:35,370
is leading us off tonight. Tom,
thank you for watching

1160
01:06:35,370 --> 01:06:36,810
some controversy.

1161
01:06:37,500 --> 01:06:42,180
Tom Yamas is the Who's the one
of the many showers on ABC the

1162
01:06:42,180 --> 01:06:45,390
CBS network news guys, when they
do in their field reporters,

1163
01:06:45,390 --> 01:06:49,230
they have to shout. Yeah,
because they shout and shout and

1164
01:06:49,230 --> 01:06:53,940
shot. But he is the one ABC as a
antiTrump station. We know that

1165
01:06:53,940 --> 01:06:56,100
there were the Jeb Bush group,
and now they don't know what

1166
01:06:56,100 --> 01:07:00,030
they're doing. And it's I think
it's still good to follow what

1167
01:07:00,030 --> 01:07:03,450
they what they do, because it's
a lot of shouting from the

1168
01:07:03,450 --> 01:07:08,100
reporter and careful
contemplation by David Muir.

1169
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:13,530
So Don Lemon last night, late
last night, had Van Jones on

1170
01:07:13,530 --> 01:07:17,040
again, the van is now every job.
He's on every show as well,

1171
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:21,600
because he stood up. So here we
have two black guys. And I

1172
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:24,870
learned a couple things. And it
was something that this Lord guy

1173
01:07:24,870 --> 01:07:28,740
said at the very end of that
first clip that I it was

1174
01:07:28,740 --> 01:07:34,860
educational moment. But in the
whole the segment is like oh god

1175
01:07:34,860 --> 01:07:34,980
and

1176
01:07:34,980 --> 01:07:38,790
Jones is here with me now deeply
personal for you.

1177
01:07:39,060 --> 01:07:40,710
deeply personal this argument?

1178
01:07:41,370 --> 01:07:46,560
Yeah, that was completely
unplanned on. We literally had

1179
01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:50,370
we were supposed to be talking
about the Republican party, the

1180
01:07:50,490 --> 01:07:52,920
Republican Party actually I
wasn't even gonna say anything

1181
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:58,890
at all. And somehow, we wind up
appeasing Jay, I don't think

1182
01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:01,920
either of us expected to have a
live on the air. Did you know

1183
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:03,960
sometimes people have
conversations in the green room,

1184
01:08:04,050 --> 01:08:07,050
you don't have a mindset we had
we had that green room parking

1185
01:08:07,050 --> 01:08:08,850
lot conversation right there on
the set.

1186
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:11,850
This is a very nice little quote
with God, because that is the

1187
01:08:11,850 --> 01:08:16,560
problem with mainstream media in
general. But all the good stuff

1188
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:19,290
never makes it onto the air
because it's scripted. It's

1189
01:08:19,290 --> 01:08:23,940
completely controlled, it's time
to hit the the commercial break

1190
01:08:23,940 --> 01:08:28,200
and the top of the hour. This is
why we never speak to each other

1191
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:30,690
except on the programme because
you miss all the beauty of it.

1192
01:08:30,690 --> 01:08:35,250
And I agree it was a very nice
segment, a human segment on CNN

1193
01:08:35,250 --> 01:08:37,740
for the first time and as long
as I've been watching the place.

1194
01:08:37,770 --> 01:08:38,010
Yeah.

1195
01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:41,340
And it was and I think there
were there were tears in the

1196
01:08:41,340 --> 01:08:43,320
eyes of people, camera people.

1197
01:08:45,569 --> 01:08:50,339
Did you have tears in your eyes
listening to it? Tears because

1198
01:08:50,339 --> 01:08:53,999
it was a black man. A fear? No,
he's had tears in their eyes

1199
01:08:53,999 --> 01:08:56,069
tears in the camera. People were
crying on

1200
01:08:56,070 --> 01:08:59,280
camera people and other people
that at the break. I mean, it

1201
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:03,150
was it was a cathartic moment
for everybody there. And then

1202
01:09:03,150 --> 01:09:05,190
of course, so full of it. Yeah,

1203
01:09:05,190 --> 01:09:07,530
because we solved the racial
tension friended

1204
01:09:07,530 --> 01:09:11,610
worldwide and trended worldwide,
this whole bigger thing became

1205
01:09:11,610 --> 01:09:13,830
this whole bigger thing. It's a
whole bigger thing. Now because

1206
01:09:13,830 --> 01:09:17,670
Van Jones is trained it was it
was a cathartic moment for

1207
01:09:17,670 --> 01:09:20,370
everybody there. And then of
course, it trended worldwide and

1208
01:09:20,370 --> 01:09:22,830
turn into his whole bigger
thing, but just in the intimacy

1209
01:09:22,830 --> 01:09:25,800
of a bunch of people who've
worked together for so hard so

1210
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:27,180
laundered his primary season.

1211
01:09:27,210 --> 01:09:29,970
Oh, so it's such hard work.

1212
01:09:30,030 --> 01:09:32,100
I did a lot of motion just came
out. Yeah,

1213
01:09:32,130 --> 01:09:34,830
he listened. I was transfixed by
now this is interesting. I

1214
01:09:34,830 --> 01:09:36,900
learned something that as I was
getting, I stopped getting

1215
01:09:36,900 --> 01:09:40,080
dressed last night. And I've
watched this. And I was like I

1216
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:42,570
was kept saying, I wish I was
there. I wish I was you know, I

1217
01:09:42,570 --> 01:09:45,120
wish I was there. Because we
often have these conversations

1218
01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:47,130
on this show you and I even
sometimes You and I disagree on

1219
01:09:47,130 --> 01:09:49,440
certain things and we had sort
of Heart to Heart moments, which

1220
01:09:49,440 --> 01:09:52,800
is what you should do. But the
whole point of the thing that

1221
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:56,370
got me was the whole idea that
this is somehow has to do with

1222
01:09:56,370 --> 01:09:59,160
ideology that is somehow has to
do with the right versus the

1223
01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:02,100
left and you know the The
Democrats in the Ku Klux Klan. I

1224
01:10:02,580 --> 01:10:04,200
understand what that had to do
with

1225
01:10:04,470 --> 01:10:08,940
it. It was well, it's
unfortunate because there's a

1226
01:10:08,970 --> 01:10:12,000
small part of the right that has
this revisionist history where

1227
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:14,700
they want to say everything in
the world had ever happened was

1228
01:10:14,700 --> 01:10:17,910
the left. So Hitler was a
leftist. The Klan is a leftist.

1229
01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:18,780
And it's somebody

1230
01:10:18,780 --> 01:10:20,460
who's not true. was Hitler a
leftist?

1231
01:10:23,220 --> 01:10:28,260
I don't think so. I mean, it's
questionable. I mean, the you

1232
01:10:28,260 --> 01:10:30,600
have to look at what's
interesting is the fascist

1233
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:35,550
movement, which was he was part
of Van Jones, he's only became a

1234
01:10:35,550 --> 01:10:38,430
net it would became national
socialism. So you could say

1235
01:10:38,430 --> 01:10:40,740
because the word socialism
because Right, right, it was

1236
01:10:40,740 --> 01:10:44,970
corporatism. It was leftist. And
so you can make you can kind of

1237
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:48,330
vaguely make that argument. But
the thing that's always

1238
01:10:48,330 --> 01:10:51,570
noteworthy is the fascism
itself, which began in the late

1239
01:10:51,570 --> 01:10:56,310
20s was an academic movement
which was, which was I say, you

1240
01:10:56,310 --> 01:11:00,870
could the academic scene was
very similar that it always is

1241
01:11:00,870 --> 01:11:02,640
which is tends to be lefty

1242
01:11:02,970 --> 01:11:06,000
cycling is wrong. It doesn't
matter. Exactly right. Exactly.

1243
01:11:06,090 --> 01:11:08,730
There's there's horrible people
on the right and horrible people

1244
01:11:08,730 --> 01:11:10,950
on the left, and there's
horrible racists and bigots on

1245
01:11:10,950 --> 01:11:12,660
the right. And I'm horrible
racist, because on the left,

1246
01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:14,970
that why are we having this
conversation, though? What the

1247
01:11:14,970 --> 01:11:15,660
question is,

1248
01:11:15,750 --> 01:11:19,140
yeah, why? Why van Why are you
having this conversation right

1249
01:11:19,140 --> 01:11:19,530
now the

1250
01:11:19,530 --> 01:11:22,290
Klan is not endorsing Hillary
Clinton. The Klan is not

1251
01:11:22,290 --> 01:11:24,690
endorsing Bernie Sanders. The
Klan is endorsing Donald Trump,

1252
01:11:24,690 --> 01:11:25,620
which is an opportunity for

1253
01:11:25,620 --> 01:11:29,730
which is not entirely a guy who
used to be in the Ku Klux Klan

1254
01:11:30,690 --> 01:11:35,130
said did not endorse he said go
out in the clans endorsing now

1255
01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:38,760
this and I think Duke was a 40
years ago maybe that he was in

1256
01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:42,420
the clan a while back. He's a
douche. But it's not factually

1257
01:11:42,510 --> 01:11:45,660
Donald Trump to stand up and do
what Reagan did when when the

1258
01:11:45,660 --> 01:11:49,350
Klan tried to endorse Reagan,
Reagan took them to the

1259
01:11:49,350 --> 01:11:50,190
woodshed.

1260
01:11:50,220 --> 01:11:51,000
Is that true?

1261
01:11:51,570 --> 01:11:53,640
Not that I know it was ugly,

1262
01:11:53,820 --> 01:11:55,020
and your expand Jones

1263
01:11:55,020 --> 01:11:58,230
wasn't around then we're barely
I barely remember that.

1264
01:11:58,230 --> 01:12:02,040
I think that from a Trump and
instead you get well I disavow.

1265
01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:06,990
Okay, let's move on. And that,
to me, is a very sad moment.

1266
01:12:07,020 --> 01:12:12,390
This isn't his whole point is he
wanted Trump to be more. It'd be

1267
01:12:12,420 --> 01:12:15,570
the words don't matter. It's the
way he said it that take Van

1268
01:12:15,570 --> 01:12:17,910
Jones off this. This is
interesting. And

1269
01:12:17,940 --> 01:12:20,490
listen, if the Klan is a leftist
organisation, they'd be

1270
01:12:20,490 --> 01:12:22,650
endorsing Bernie Sanders. But
why are we having that

1271
01:12:22,650 --> 01:12:27,060
conversation? The question is
not just Why is Trump not

1272
01:12:27,090 --> 01:12:31,740
pushing away hard from this
group, if ISIS endorsed Trump,

1273
01:12:31,890 --> 01:12:35,580
Trump would go crazy. If al
Qaeda endorsed Trump, Trump

1274
01:12:35,580 --> 01:12:38,130
would go crazy. We have a
terrorist organisation in the

1275
01:12:38,130 --> 01:12:42,330
United States that is and white
supremacist since 911 have

1276
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:45,510
killed more Americans and
Muslims, the Muslims have killed

1277
01:12:45,510 --> 01:12:47,850
and then jihadists have killed.
And so if you're going to be

1278
01:12:47,850 --> 01:12:51,210
anti terrorist leader, which is
what Trump is supposed to be,

1279
01:12:51,300 --> 01:12:54,660
you should be hard on al Qaeda.
You should be hard on ISIS, and

1280
01:12:54,660 --> 01:12:55,530
you should be hard on the

1281
01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:56,910
fan. Listen.

1282
01:12:57,720 --> 01:13:00,570
The other thing that I found and
you know this, here's the

1283
01:13:00,570 --> 01:13:03,630
learning moment, John, for white
men a learning moment,

1284
01:13:03,990 --> 01:13:07,170
as you said, Jeffrey, Lord, we
have him on the Jeffrey Lord is

1285
01:13:07,170 --> 01:13:11,070
a nice man. Yes, but does he I
don't understand. He understands

1286
01:13:11,070 --> 01:13:14,640
how offensive it is when people
say oh, that Dr. King wanted,

1287
01:13:14,670 --> 01:13:17,700
you know, a colorblind society.
That's not what Dr. King wanted.

1288
01:13:19,140 --> 01:13:22,350
Dr. King wanted people to
recognise people for their

1289
01:13:22,350 --> 01:13:25,230
qualities for their fuller lips
or bigger nose or darker

1290
01:13:25,230 --> 01:13:28,080
skinned, whatever, whatever it
is that you bring into the

1291
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:32,670
society culturally. But in spite
of that, or because of that, to

1292
01:13:32,670 --> 01:13:35,700
judge people on their content of
character who wants to live in a

1293
01:13:35,700 --> 01:13:39,510
colorblind society. That's
disingenuous. ICU is black. You

1294
01:13:39,510 --> 01:13:43,020
see, I see blond hair, I see
blue eyes. I see people who are

1295
01:13:43,020 --> 01:13:45,960
Asian I see yarmulke is what am
I not supposed to see all those

1296
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:48,630
things? I'm supposed to love my
brother because of their

1297
01:13:48,630 --> 01:13:52,230
differences. Not not to be blind
to them.

1298
01:13:52,500 --> 01:13:54,450
You know, whenever somebody
tells me, well, you know where

1299
01:13:54,450 --> 01:13:57,090
I'm just colorblind. I say you
might want to see a doctor.

1300
01:13:58,590 --> 01:14:01,950
Good point. I think I've
probably said that in the past.

1301
01:14:02,370 --> 01:14:04,980
Well, you've been bitching about
your eyesight for some time.

1302
01:14:06,060 --> 01:14:12,180
Now, but the I think that is an
incorrect interpretation. And

1303
01:14:12,180 --> 01:14:16,410
it's kind of like men saying I'm
a feminist. Like I'm colorblind,

1304
01:14:16,440 --> 01:14:18,450
I think that's good. That's a
good way and you're not

1305
01:14:18,450 --> 01:14:19,170
colorblind

1306
01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:20,880
MCI Mail lesbian.

1307
01:14:22,470 --> 01:14:25,500
Anyway, I learned something
there and I agree and I need to

1308
01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:26,670
I need to

1309
01:14:26,700 --> 01:14:30,120
correct myself I would I would
say that something that

1310
01:14:30,510 --> 01:14:32,670
it's a good takeaway. Yeah,

1311
01:14:32,730 --> 01:14:33,480
I mean, mine I

1312
01:14:33,480 --> 01:14:39,120
mean, Van Jones otherwise. With
that, I think I should thank you

1313
01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:41,430
for your courage and passion
send you love and light and say

1314
01:14:41,430 --> 01:14:45,060
in the morning to you John, with
a C stands for Content of

1315
01:14:45,060 --> 01:14:47,130
Character Devorah check

1316
01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:49,860
it well in the morning to you
also in the morning all ships

1317
01:14:49,860 --> 01:14:51,780
and sea boots on the ground
feeding the air subs in the

1318
01:14:51,780 --> 01:14:52,980
water and all the games
tonight's up

1319
01:14:53,010 --> 01:14:55,740
in the morning to the chat room.
Hey, everybody, how you doing? I

1320
01:14:55,740 --> 01:14:58,440
know agenda stream.com in the
morning to our artists in

1321
01:14:58,440 --> 01:15:00,900
particular want to say in the
morning to Baron now. subohm who

1322
01:15:00,900 --> 01:15:03,960
brought us the artwork for
episode 803 title of the show

1323
01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:08,580
Joe Hitler. And it was the first
President Washington George

1324
01:15:08,580 --> 01:15:12,630
Washington with a make American
Great Again. Trump hat is good.

1325
01:15:12,660 --> 01:15:14,070
I picked up one of those at the
rally.

1326
01:15:14,670 --> 01:15:18,360
I had a I have a red one that
somebody sent me in the mail.

1327
01:15:19,350 --> 01:15:22,890
One of the originals you get a
white one a red one I got a blue

1328
01:15:22,890 --> 01:15:25,800
one. I didn't even know there
were blue ones.

1329
01:15:26,310 --> 01:15:28,920
I got one that's made in China.
I thought that was funnier than

1330
01:15:29,220 --> 01:15:31,980
but I want to get the official
one I got the religious season

1331
01:15:31,980 --> 01:15:33,000
this was made in China.

1332
01:15:33,030 --> 01:15:36,270
No I got the one that was that
wasn't actually on the premises

1333
01:15:36,270 --> 01:15:38,580
but kind of where you're walking
from parking your car. The

1334
01:15:38,580 --> 01:15:41,730
bootleg the bootleg like I
needed his blue hat which made

1335
01:15:41,730 --> 01:15:49,230
in China perfect Yeah, so that
is the newsletter went out did

1336
01:15:49,230 --> 01:15:51,120
that work? Did everything go?
Okay, are we happy with

1337
01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:57,210
it? Wasn't that good? I mean, I
think it went out but nobody

1338
01:15:57,210 --> 01:16:00,450
cares. I mean, this is a moment
in you know this happens every

1339
01:16:00,450 --> 01:16:08,370
year. Some point we have you
know it disinterested? I don't

1340
01:16:08,370 --> 01:16:12,300
know why. Maybe show 808 will
pick things up because 808 is to

1341
01:16:12,300 --> 01:16:15,510
Lucky Chinese numbers. And that
could maybe Oh, that would be

1342
01:16:15,510 --> 01:16:22,260
nice. Eight away. And 8008 is a
palindrome? Yeah. So it's a bad

1343
01:16:22,260 --> 01:16:23,670
thing. 8008 could be could be

1344
01:16:24,330 --> 01:16:33,900
808. Not 8008 8008. No, no. 808
That's three number eight always

1345
01:16:33,900 --> 01:16:37,020
no good at Oh, wait. eight to
eight is 8008

1346
01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:40,080
No, eight. Oh, dot O eight.

1347
01:16:40,860 --> 01:16:44,490
Oh, I'm sorry. I gotcha. $80.08.
I gotcha.

1348
01:16:44,519 --> 01:16:46,049
Yeah. $80.08.

1349
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:51,300
This is our first executive, not
the middle. Our first executive

1350
01:16:51,300 --> 01:16:53,820
producer sent us the Warren
Piece.

1351
01:16:53,940 --> 01:16:57,210
Yeah, he sent us He sent us his
novel as his comments. Yeah,

1352
01:16:57,270 --> 01:17:01,020
that's the Sir Edward of
Bridgewater in Bridgewater, New

1353
01:17:01,020 --> 01:17:07,830
Jersey 3333. And I don't know
quite what we should read here.

1354
01:17:07,860 --> 01:17:10,140
Well, I think if you get to the
opening three lines, you'll see

1355
01:17:10,140 --> 01:17:11,040
that he's stoned.

1356
01:17:12,390 --> 01:17:20,370
A man. I'm hearing a ringing
sound much like that made by a

1357
01:17:20,370 --> 01:17:25,800
Tibetan bowl. And that's when I
realised my commands is now the

1358
01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:30,690
captain's chair of a starship,
which is hurtling headlong into

1359
01:17:30,690 --> 01:17:36,000
an asteroid field. The top of
the largest asteroid is Jerry

1360
01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:42,120
Hall, but not the old fogy
fucking Jerry of today. But the

1361
01:17:42,120 --> 01:17:49,440
young rock star Jerry profane,
very profane, as she appeared on

1362
01:17:49,440 --> 01:17:53,670
the cover of the fifth Roxy
Music Album, and the ringing

1363
01:17:53,670 --> 01:17:58,410
sound morphs into what is the
story stone on LSD? No, he's

1364
01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:01,530
he had Xanax in blueberry
cookies.

1365
01:18:02,430 --> 01:18:04,620
Oh, is that what he says later

1366
01:18:04,650 --> 01:18:07,560
he says the DA while sitting on
my throne enveloped in a haze

1367
01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:07,980
Anders

1368
01:18:07,980 --> 01:18:12,690
slide down the slide into
oblivion. Jerry grabs my hand

1369
01:18:12,690 --> 01:18:17,520
and pulls me up. When I realise
the asteroid is now Mount

1370
01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:22,680
Rushmore, and I'm holding Eva
Marie Saint hand, and it's me

1371
01:18:22,710 --> 01:18:28,560
saving her. When suddenly, Eva
becomes divorce rack, at which

1372
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:32,190
point I lose my grip and John
plummets to the rocks below

1373
01:18:32,190 --> 01:18:39,810
shouting douche bag. As he
descends to his demise, fall

1374
01:18:39,810 --> 01:18:42,690
back through Roosevelt's eyes,
and then I'm in a dark room

1375
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:46,140
strapped into a real throne, and
through the door walks Uma

1376
01:18:46,140 --> 01:18:49,710
Thurman, so we can kind of guess
his age by these women. He's

1377
01:18:49,740 --> 01:18:50,550
idolising

1378
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:57,570
I'm guessing 50. It goes on and
on. It was his entire story.

1379
01:18:59,460 --> 01:19:02,730
To fund little, he should
consider writing a little giblet

1380
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:05,040
on Amazon, a shirt. I would read
it

1381
01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:09,990
backwards. The way it starts is
dynamite. Just drawn in a bunch

1382
01:19:09,990 --> 01:19:13,620
of random stuff. And he has he
has a birthday when a jingle or

1383
01:19:13,620 --> 01:19:17,400
so he doesn't know No, he but he
hasn't. Thanks, Sir Edward for

1384
01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:20,520
the Enlightenment into your boy
your brain work and

1385
01:19:20,550 --> 01:19:24,390
blueberry and Xanax. Breakfast
of Champions,

1386
01:19:24,809 --> 01:19:28,679
Xanax and that's something
that's good for you. But Thomas

1387
01:19:28,679 --> 01:19:32,639
Nussbaum came in with $301
Virginia Beach, Virginia Duke

1388
01:19:32,639 --> 01:19:39,839
Nussbaum he says here i the show
here i The show is going great.

1389
01:19:41,099 --> 01:19:44,639
The show is going great. He says
they will see Adam on the road

1390
01:19:44,639 --> 01:19:48,149
soon. Give me us a shout out are
you once again for the three

1391
01:19:48,149 --> 01:19:51,059
everybody wants to get out of my
vagina. Look at the Jews and Yom

1392
01:19:51,179 --> 01:20:00,989
and maybe the scream Vash Parma
I'm guessing this Ah, he

1393
01:20:00,990 --> 01:20:05,970
wants to juice juice. I was so
enamoured with the with our

1394
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:09,330
previous note that I hadn't
hadn't gone ahead and work the

1395
01:20:09,330 --> 01:20:15,000
head yet. Juice. What was the
last one? All right. Oh, scream

1396
01:20:15,060 --> 01:20:19,260
scream the screen and economy.
Okay. My headphones are also all

1397
01:20:19,260 --> 01:20:21,180
of a sudden decided provide a
little bit of

1398
01:20:21,599 --> 01:20:27,449
feedback, Joseph you're very
wise doing Oh my gosh. Can you

1399
01:20:27,449 --> 01:20:28,559
see that too?

1400
01:20:30,900 --> 01:20:36,270
You've got karma moment thank
you very much for the for the

1401
01:20:36,270 --> 01:20:38,490
artwork on the previous show
good work.

1402
01:20:39,179 --> 01:20:43,139
So we have Joseph Gilbert here
and I'm looking at the email. I

1403
01:20:43,139 --> 01:20:44,519
don't see anything

1404
01:20:46,860 --> 01:20:47,880
we check.

1405
01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:53,340
I look for Gilbert I find
nothing. So we'll have to wait

1406
01:20:53,340 --> 01:20:56,280
for him to send us another note.
He sent a note in the first

1407
01:20:56,280 --> 01:21:01,230
place. Anyway, Joseph Gilbert
Parts Unknown $300. Okay.

1408
01:21:02,730 --> 01:21:07,800
Onward. John Glover in this day.
Those are executive producers.

1409
01:21:08,010 --> 01:21:10,530
And now we have one Associate
Executive producers in the word

1410
01:21:10,530 --> 01:21:15,600
done. John Glover in Zillow,
Washington. If there is even as

1411
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:21,900
a Zillow please say this on the
air for correction pro

1412
01:21:21,900 --> 01:21:25,830
homeowners like I think I
haven't. Was it Brian Gilbert?

1413
01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:29,550
No joke. That's how I got
nothing. Keep going.

1414
01:21:30,060 --> 01:21:35,340
Okay, thanks for the mention of
cool Tura winery on show 803.

1415
01:21:35,340 --> 01:21:38,910
But I have a correction. Adam
said I am a retired NSA

1416
01:21:38,910 --> 01:21:41,010
employee. I don't remember you
saying that.

1417
01:21:41,040 --> 01:21:44,700
That was that was the one I got
from one of our subs under the

1418
01:21:44,700 --> 01:21:49,680
water guys. And he said this is
a retired agent and he now has

1419
01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:50,190
wine.

1420
01:21:50,850 --> 01:21:52,020
What was he doing in a sub?

1421
01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:56,790
Now his friend was at the meetup
who was an assault? Oh,

1422
01:21:57,120 --> 01:21:59,940
he says I never worked for any
government agency, let alone the

1423
01:21:59,940 --> 01:22:03,300
White House white haired guys.
It doesn't meet really mostly

1424
01:22:03,300 --> 01:22:06,420
CIA. I don't know what the NSA
guys have white here. But of

1425
01:22:06,420 --> 01:22:09,510
course, that's what I think they
shoot him up with something. And

1426
01:22:09,510 --> 01:22:10,770
then they do their hair turns
white.

1427
01:22:12,090 --> 01:22:12,900
Let's read the note.

1428
01:22:13,440 --> 01:22:17,460
Oh. But of course, that's what a
government agent would say. If I

1429
01:22:17,460 --> 01:22:20,400
was a government agent, I would
have known that you both were

1430
01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:23,550
broadcasting in your underwear
the whole time too, which is

1431
01:22:23,550 --> 01:22:28,590
probable? Indeed. Me and my wife
were just lifelong farmers that

1432
01:22:28,590 --> 01:22:31,920
have been have a passion for red
wine. Also, the wine is only $40

1433
01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:36,510
Not 100. Show me your address so
I can get you some out to you

1434
01:22:36,510 --> 01:22:38,070
both. The show? Well, we

1435
01:22:38,070 --> 01:22:41,160
drank it. We drank our $40
bottle was done. I never got it.

1436
01:22:41,940 --> 01:22:44,310
Send me an address and they'll
send you some. And I think this

1437
01:22:44,310 --> 01:22:44,910
concludes

1438
01:22:44,910 --> 01:22:48,240
our little group of producers in
the US. Yes. Producers and

1439
01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:53,400
executive producers for show
8:04am I remind people we do

1440
01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:56,850
have a show coming up on Sunday
short week. The

1441
01:22:56,850 --> 01:22:59,640
varric.org/anaise a place to go
and help us out. Yes,

1442
01:22:59,639 --> 01:23:02,999
please remember us for the
coming programme. Maybe just a

1443
01:23:02,999 --> 01:23:05,249
quick little new jingle we got
in it just when you thought that

1444
01:23:05,249 --> 01:23:10,349
no, no nose could not get any
better. Conan salada brought us

1445
01:23:10,349 --> 01:23:10,619
anyway.

1446
01:23:10,650 --> 01:23:21,570
Okay. You know what? No, no, no,
no, no, no, no. You're in my

1447
01:23:21,570 --> 01:23:28,140
house. Drink in the booth. Shame
on.

1448
01:23:28,590 --> 01:23:33,660
Outstanding. Dan. Dan, we're at
10 especially good drinking the

1449
01:23:33,660 --> 01:23:39,600
booze very well. done.org/in All
right. You may not be able to

1450
01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:42,480
support us financially. Oops,
what the hell was that? We'll

1451
01:23:42,480 --> 01:23:45,210
try that again. Maybe if you can
support us financially, you can

1452
01:23:45,210 --> 01:23:48,420
always go out and propagate the
formula formula is this Christ.

1453
01:23:48,750 --> 01:23:51,270
We had people in the mouth

1454
01:24:06,150 --> 01:24:11,850
somebody complained to me that I
had hit the I hit the gong. And

1455
01:24:11,850 --> 01:24:13,530
he's got his headphones on. He's
able

1456
01:24:13,530 --> 01:24:17,820
to hurt us. Well, I have I have
my zenergy chime John by have

1457
01:24:17,820 --> 01:24:26,790
this zenergy solo chime here it
is. That thing is amazing. The

1458
01:24:26,790 --> 01:24:28,440
resin ring that long? Yes.

1459
01:24:28,799 --> 01:24:34,259
Still going. Oops, hit the mic.
Wow. Yes. It's, uh, you know

1460
01:24:34,259 --> 01:24:39,989
what? When I hear this chime, I
just stop and I become calm. And

1461
01:24:39,989 --> 01:24:41,819
I think donate

1462
01:24:42,060 --> 01:24:45,150
anyway, so I use my is the gong
over modulated?

1463
01:24:45,900 --> 01:24:50,280
No, it's not over modulated it
has it some certain frequency

1464
01:24:50,280 --> 01:24:54,840
that cuts through, but it does
something to the processing that

1465
01:24:54,840 --> 01:24:57,750
it overrides everything doesn't
matter what I do when you hit

1466
01:24:57,750 --> 01:25:00,600
the gong, I cannot even get over
the gong sign No matter what's

1467
01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:03,060
playing, it's just it's a
beautiful frequency. I like it.

1468
01:25:03,060 --> 01:25:03,090
I

1469
01:25:04,020 --> 01:25:07,230
wonder what it is. The
frequencies bring the big Gong

1470
01:25:07,230 --> 01:25:09,360
up here and see if we're dead
does anything that did oh, it

1471
01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:14,460
was huge. It probably showed.
Like the big Gong.

1472
01:25:15,240 --> 01:25:17,820
You know, sad news, John. It
finally happened. You'd already

1473
01:25:17,820 --> 01:25:22,140
set me up for it. The ad set me
up for it. And you told me

1474
01:25:22,140 --> 01:25:26,670
what's coming and I was hopeful
that it wouldn't happen. I'm

1475
01:25:26,670 --> 01:25:30,330
very sad eight years sad day in
American history. It did take

1476
01:25:30,330 --> 01:25:31,080
place it all

1477
01:25:31,080 --> 01:25:32,340
happened overnight

1478
01:25:32,370 --> 01:25:36,660
restock inventory of groceries,
souvenir items. All the

1479
01:25:36,660 --> 01:25:39,690
computers needed to be changed
out all the cash registers. You

1480
01:25:39,690 --> 01:25:41,820
know you think about it, you're
going from one company to

1481
01:25:41,820 --> 01:25:42,420
another

1482
01:25:42,450 --> 01:25:45,090
Yosemite National Park
undergoing a full makeover.

1483
01:25:45,090 --> 01:25:48,780
Hundreds of signs now displaying
new names for several old iconic

1484
01:25:48,780 --> 01:25:49,530
landmarks

1485
01:25:49,560 --> 01:25:53,280
or villages now halftone village
Ahwahnee hotel is now the

1486
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:54,810
majestic Yosemite hotel,

1487
01:25:55,590 --> 01:26:00,480
the majestic Yosemite whole
hotel at Curry Village gone

1488
01:26:00,510 --> 01:26:03,930
How did these guys get the whole
of these things as copyrighted

1489
01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:05,190
trademark? Well, this

1490
01:26:05,190 --> 01:26:08,220
is this is the issue of the
report. So we'll continue here

1491
01:26:08,220 --> 01:26:09,090
somebody's hotel

1492
01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:11,910
name changes come as Aramark
takes over as a new

1493
01:26:11,910 --> 01:26:14,940
concessionaire, the previous one
Delaware North, leaving with a

1494
01:26:14,940 --> 01:26:18,390
few stones left unturned during
the course of its contract. Park

1495
01:26:18,390 --> 01:26:20,640
Ranger Scott ngadimin says
Delaware North filed to

1496
01:26:20,640 --> 01:26:23,580
trademark the iconic names
without the knowledge of the

1497
01:26:23,580 --> 01:26:24,090
park.

1498
01:26:24,120 --> 01:26:27,270
However, we as the National Park
Service, do not feel that these

1499
01:26:27,270 --> 01:26:28,380
trademarks are valid.

1500
01:26:28,410 --> 01:26:30,060
So the park is fighting back.

1501
01:26:31,980 --> 01:26:35,220
Someone else trademarked the
names and then it's it's not a

1502
01:26:35,220 --> 01:26:40,770
part of the deal. That that's
what's happening. The new guys

1503
01:26:40,770 --> 01:26:43,830
coming in, they can't or they
don't want to purchase the old

1504
01:26:43,830 --> 01:26:46,530
names or whatever the issue is
they would trade one $50

1505
01:26:46,530 --> 01:26:50,460
million. Is that what they want?
50 million. Yeah, it's worth it

1506
01:26:51,150 --> 01:26:52,260
was not they brought

1507
01:26:52,260 --> 01:26:54,840
a lawsuit against Delaware
North. And in addition, they

1508
01:26:54,840 --> 01:26:57,390
filed a petition with the United
States Patent and Trademark

1509
01:26:57,390 --> 01:27:00,720
Office asking them to cancel the
standing trademarks, which is

1510
01:27:00,720 --> 01:27:02,610
why the signs are temporary.

1511
01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:06,840
The history of these properties
goes back you know in privileges

1512
01:27:06,840 --> 01:27:10,920
for example, way over 100 years.
Yes, these names belong to the

1513
01:27:10,920 --> 01:27:11,790
American people,

1514
01:27:12,480 --> 01:27:16,410
belongs to the American people.
He said American people belong

1515
01:27:16,410 --> 01:27:21,780
to American people Kirk cam
curry, Curry Village. What do

1516
01:27:21,780 --> 01:27:22,050
you do when

1517
01:27:22,050 --> 01:27:25,290
people are gears and that these
names belong to the American

1518
01:27:25,290 --> 01:27:25,740
people?

1519
01:27:26,099 --> 01:27:28,169
I agree I have relinquished My
name for

1520
01:27:28,170 --> 01:27:31,200
them because they even trademark
the name Yosemite National Park.

1521
01:27:31,200 --> 01:27:34,320
The new merchandise created by
Aramark only features the name

1522
01:27:34,350 --> 01:27:35,040
Yosemite,

1523
01:27:35,070 --> 01:27:37,710
I really don't care for it too
much at all. But you know, I

1524
01:27:37,710 --> 01:27:40,980
still remain here and enjoy this
beautiful place.

1525
01:27:41,009 --> 01:27:43,949
Visitors say they just want
everything to stay the same. I'm

1526
01:27:43,949 --> 01:27:44,249
sad

1527
01:27:44,250 --> 01:27:47,730
to see it that it's getting
broken or lawyers.

1528
01:27:48,570 --> 01:27:52,530
But this is all about one thing.
And by the way, sir bemrose If

1529
01:27:52,530 --> 01:27:55,530
you were listening, I said that
John had told me this was

1530
01:27:55,530 --> 01:27:58,290
happening if this is now the
information about why it's

1531
01:27:58,290 --> 01:28:02,160
happened and what the problem
is. Be quiet, the memories that

1532
01:28:02,160 --> 01:28:06,060
were here. You just want to
associate it I think with the

1533
01:28:06,060 --> 01:28:09,060
names and stuff that you already
knew, you know, here comes

1534
01:28:09,060 --> 01:28:12,270
this is all for one big benefit
to the American people for

1535
01:28:12,270 --> 01:28:13,380
Yosemite Park.

1536
01:28:13,680 --> 01:28:16,350
Out of the contract Aramark,
plans to remodel several of the

1537
01:28:16,350 --> 01:28:18,960
parks, restaurants and
concessions while also bringing

1538
01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:22,320
new food items to the menus the
contract will last for the next

1539
01:28:22,350 --> 01:28:24,180
15 years fantastic

1540
01:28:24,180 --> 01:28:27,450
new food items in Yosemite this
is well worth it.

1541
01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:30,360
Sad kale.

1542
01:28:31,860 --> 01:28:34,170
Sad, it's just sad.

1543
01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:38,190
I have a couple I actually uh,
you know, I'm looking at my

1544
01:28:38,190 --> 01:28:42,090
clips. I have the opportunity
for a clip Blitz, you have the

1545
01:28:42,090 --> 01:28:45,660
end of the show. Okay. We
haven't done that for a while.

1546
01:28:46,980 --> 01:28:47,880
People listening.

1547
01:28:48,240 --> 01:28:57,330
Let me see. Okay, I'll keep this
one. Right now I'll put it there

1548
01:28:57,330 --> 01:28:58,530
for the end of the show. We'll
be ready.

1549
01:28:58,560 --> 01:29:02,490
I do have a quick clip that
might lead into something I

1550
01:29:02,490 --> 01:29:06,570
believe you're working on. Okay.
What you got is the FBI versus

1551
01:29:06,570 --> 01:29:08,280
Apple a second case.

1552
01:29:08,310 --> 01:29:11,460
In a victory for privacy
advocates. A federal judge has

1553
01:29:11,460 --> 01:29:15,690
rejected an FBI request to force
Apple to unlock a drug dealers

1554
01:29:15,690 --> 01:29:19,410
iPhone. Monday's ruling came
hours before Apple in the Obama

1555
01:29:19,410 --> 01:29:22,860
administration face off and a
congressional hearing today over

1556
01:29:22,860 --> 01:29:26,130
Apple's refusal to help the FBI
break into the iPhone of one of

1557
01:29:26,130 --> 01:29:29,370
the San Bernardino massacre
suspects. That's in a separate

1558
01:29:29,370 --> 01:29:30,630
case. Yes.

1559
01:29:30,930 --> 01:29:32,220
That's right. And that

1560
01:29:32,220 --> 01:29:34,320
day, well, while we're at it,
and we got one more little

1561
01:29:34,740 --> 01:29:38,940
prelude to what you're going to
report on. Okay. And this I

1562
01:29:38,940 --> 01:29:42,900
picked up on on the outnumbered
show. This is where you have a

1563
01:29:42,900 --> 01:29:48,030
bunch of women one one dude, in
one dude. And you don't get to

1564
01:29:48,030 --> 01:29:52,260
hear otherwise known as the
Mormon show. That you don't get

1565
01:29:52,260 --> 01:29:55,020
to hear the dude at all but you
get to hear these women.

1566
01:29:55,500 --> 01:29:58,410
Interesting. And this is on Fox.
So it's interesting how they're

1567
01:29:58,410 --> 01:30:03,600
so against the FBI. I am pro
apple. With this discussion they

1568
01:30:03,600 --> 01:30:06,690
have that that is a little as a
two minute clip, surely it's a

1569
01:30:06,690 --> 01:30:10,080
conversation. It's this
conversation, but they go into a

1570
01:30:10,080 --> 01:30:13,590
bunch of interesting memes. And
then they really sigh The the

1571
01:30:13,590 --> 01:30:15,120
end of it is kind of priceless.

1572
01:30:15,390 --> 01:30:19,410
And I'm not sure which clip it
is, though John chicken coop. I

1573
01:30:19,410 --> 01:30:20,550
could have known

1574
01:30:20,580 --> 01:30:23,400
Andrea and many out there are
speculating that this is about

1575
01:30:23,400 --> 01:30:26,190
much more this is about the FBI
and the government wanting to

1576
01:30:26,190 --> 01:30:29,190
always be able to get into those
iPhones. And this isn't a one

1577
01:30:29,190 --> 01:30:32,700
off situation. But the
government is very good at

1578
01:30:32,700 --> 01:30:35,820
making this look like it is a
one off scenario, the way they

1579
01:30:35,820 --> 01:30:38,940
put it, and it stuck with me.
The government said we're asking

1580
01:30:38,970 --> 01:30:42,870
Apple to remove the vicious
guard dog that hurts national

1581
01:30:42,870 --> 01:30:47,490
security so that we can the law
Wow, this is just a one house or

1582
01:30:47,490 --> 01:30:50,970
a one phone situation, which is
turning out It very much is not

1583
01:30:50,970 --> 01:30:51,090
but

1584
01:30:51,090 --> 01:30:55,320
that also Sandra makes Apple a
villain. In this entire

1585
01:30:55,320 --> 01:30:59,100
situation. You're gonna label
Apple as the vicious dog Kabuki

1586
01:30:59,100 --> 01:31:02,430
theatre, or it's important to
headline that I don't know if

1587
01:31:02,430 --> 01:31:05,190
the media is conveniently
missing this New York Times

1588
01:31:05,190 --> 01:31:07,710
story or the facts of this, or
they're they're just not doing

1589
01:31:07,710 --> 01:31:12,360
their homework. New York Times
reports, the FBI acknowledged

1590
01:31:12,480 --> 01:31:16,170
that they screwed this up from
the start. Yeah, they went in

1591
01:31:16,170 --> 01:31:19,950
and mess this case up by
changing the passcode. That's

1592
01:31:19,950 --> 01:31:22,950
why we're talking about this,
the FBI dropped the ball. And

1593
01:31:22,950 --> 01:31:25,500
they acknowledged that and they
acknowledged that yet you hear

1594
01:31:25,500 --> 01:31:28,620
these emotional arguments from
people they need to unlock the

1595
01:31:28,620 --> 01:31:32,220
phone, people are gonna die.
I've heard even lawyers make

1596
01:31:32,220 --> 01:31:35,490
these arguments that don't make
sense. The facts of the of the

1597
01:31:35,490 --> 01:31:38,910
matter are, this is a larger
agenda. It's not about opening

1598
01:31:38,910 --> 01:31:42,480
one phone. The government wants
to end all encryption

1599
01:31:42,480 --> 01:31:45,360
technologies. And this is the
way to do it. Everything else is

1600
01:31:45,360 --> 01:31:48,540
PR and kabuki theatre, get
Congress away from this. They're

1601
01:31:48,540 --> 01:31:51,360
only doing it so they can get
free airtime and raise money

1602
01:31:51,360 --> 01:31:54,570
from lobbyists keep them away
from this Apple should stand

1603
01:31:54,570 --> 01:31:54,990
firm.

1604
01:31:55,290 --> 01:31:57,750
The government doesn't
particularly have a great track

1605
01:31:57,750 --> 01:31:59,550
record with technology, if you
will.

1606
01:31:59,910 --> 01:32:02,640
Yeah, I gotta tell you, am I the
only person here who's terrified

1607
01:32:02,640 --> 01:32:04,800
the greatest intelligence
service in the world can't break

1608
01:32:04,800 --> 01:32:05,490
into a phone

1609
01:32:07,260 --> 01:32:10,170
call? Call the Israelis? Hey,
can you write there you go?

1610
01:32:10,200 --> 01:32:13,020
That's a plan. Yeah, call the
Israeli Israelis.

1611
01:32:13,020 --> 01:32:15,090
There was a knife in the back

1612
01:32:15,420 --> 01:32:18,120
there in the there in the two
one area code. So you can just

1613
01:32:18,120 --> 01:32:20,760
call the Israelis? There's not a
problem. Just give them a call.

1614
01:32:20,760 --> 01:32:24,270
It's a low. It's not even a toll
call. Just local. Yeah. So I

1615
01:32:24,270 --> 01:32:29,130
watched all four hours and 30
minutes of the testimony. Which

1616
01:32:29,160 --> 01:32:34,920
I had an interesting name the
encryption. Oh, what was it on?

1617
01:32:36,360 --> 01:32:41,100
It had a name that was the first
time I saw a name titled On

1618
01:32:43,140 --> 01:32:47,010
on C span. No, they do that all
the time. He's never noticed

1619
01:32:47,010 --> 01:32:51,360
that or something. But I've seen
it lots was the the title these

1620
01:32:51,390 --> 01:32:53,310
these things with some cornball
name,

1621
01:32:53,700 --> 01:32:58,770
the the the encryption debate or
something. And I decided to just

1622
01:32:58,770 --> 01:33:01,410
pull a couple of short Well, a
number of short clips that are

1623
01:33:01,440 --> 01:33:04,170
they're all pretty much short.
And I can tell you the

1624
01:33:04,170 --> 01:33:07,020
conclusion right up front. The
government doesn't know what

1625
01:33:07,020 --> 01:33:12,210
they're talking about, as in the
representatives, that every

1626
01:33:12,210 --> 01:33:15,780
single one of them had the
pieces wrong misunderstanding, a

1627
01:33:15,780 --> 01:33:19,230
lot of it was very, very
repetitive. Then they brought

1628
01:33:19,230 --> 01:33:23,820
out the apple lawyer, Brian
Sewell, I think his name is not

1629
01:33:23,820 --> 01:33:26,790
the big deal, not the top dog,
but we figured would be the guy

1630
01:33:26,790 --> 01:33:32,160
running it. And this guy had a,
you know, it was very odd. And I

1631
01:33:32,160 --> 01:33:36,330
think I wouldn't call it Kabuki
theatre, but theatre for sure.

1632
01:33:36,660 --> 01:33:41,100
But to start off with, just to
whet our appetite a bit, because

1633
01:33:41,100 --> 01:33:44,550
we mentioned him earlier, Ed
Schultz on our tea. You got to

1634
01:33:44,550 --> 01:33:47,700
find out when he's when he's on
in your area, John Schultz is

1635
01:33:48,450 --> 01:33:51,120
the he has like a hot Russian
chick who's there kind of to

1636
01:33:51,120 --> 01:33:54,720
hand him the stories, and then
he just gives his opinion. But

1637
01:33:54,720 --> 01:33:56,820
they got infrastructure for him,
you know, they got they so he

1638
01:33:56,820 --> 01:34:01,560
has Libertarian Presidential
candidate John McAfee on the

1639
01:34:01,560 --> 01:34:06,720
show. McAfee he's, he's not
stoned, he's not stoned as

1640
01:34:06,720 --> 01:34:09,510
usual. Then, you know, he's not
touching his nose the whole

1641
01:34:09,510 --> 01:34:12,270
time. But he's gonna get that
cool, you know, the goatee

1642
01:34:12,270 --> 01:34:16,770
going. He's got the sunglasses
hanging around his neck. And

1643
01:34:18,750 --> 01:34:22,080
I've always wondered, you know,
he keeps saying, Oh, I can crack

1644
01:34:22,080 --> 01:34:24,150
this and in half an hour, half
an hour. Give it to me, I'll

1645
01:34:24,150 --> 01:34:27,480
take care of it. And I and now I
understand why he's saying that

1646
01:34:27,480 --> 01:34:31,800
and what his idea is or his his
system, which he says, will

1647
01:34:31,830 --> 01:34:35,520
block bar him from ever being in
the hacker community from this

1648
01:34:35,520 --> 01:34:37,710
day on because he's revealing
the secrets.

1649
01:34:38,340 --> 01:34:41,550
Question. Yes, I make this issue
simple for the American public

1650
01:34:41,550 --> 01:34:45,840
and for the FBI that who clearly
does not understand these

1651
01:34:45,840 --> 01:34:49,170
devices or computers, whether
it's an Android phone and iOS

1652
01:34:49,170 --> 01:34:52,920
phone, or whatever. Inside is a
processor, which is the

1653
01:34:52,920 --> 01:34:56,820
computer, the instruction set,
which is the iOS and all the

1654
01:34:56,820 --> 01:35:00,000
applications that you run, and
the memory in which you store

1655
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:04,350
Are your data. Now let's take
the FBI case, the FBI wants

1656
01:35:04,350 --> 01:35:09,720
Apple to change their software
so that it removes the the check

1657
01:35:09,840 --> 01:35:13,170
for security so that we don't
check for security anymore. Once

1658
01:35:13,170 --> 01:35:15,660
Once it has that software, it
can use that software on any

1659
01:35:15,660 --> 01:35:19,590
phone. But they say they only
needed for one phone. So I'm

1660
01:35:19,590 --> 01:35:22,140
going to tell the world exactly
how we do this. Now I'll

1661
01:35:22,140 --> 01:35:26,190
probably lose my my admission to
the world hackers community,

1662
01:35:26,190 --> 01:35:29,250
however, I want to tell you, you
need a hardware engineer and a

1663
01:35:29,250 --> 01:35:32,160
software engineer, the hardware
engineer takes the phone apart.

1664
01:35:32,940 --> 01:35:37,290
And it copies the instruction
set, which is the iOS and

1665
01:35:37,290 --> 01:35:40,710
applications and your memory.
And then you run a piece of a

1666
01:35:40,710 --> 01:35:44,100
programme called a disassembler,
which takes all the ones and

1667
01:35:44,100 --> 01:35:48,480
zeros and gives you readable
instructions, then the coder

1668
01:35:48,480 --> 01:35:51,600
sits down and he reads through.
And what he's looking for is the

1669
01:35:51,600 --> 01:35:54,720
first access to the keypad,
because that's the first thing

1670
01:35:54,720 --> 01:35:57,810
you're doing when you input your
pad. It'll take half an hour.

1671
01:35:58,350 --> 01:36:01,800
When you see that then he reads
the instructions for where in

1672
01:36:01,800 --> 01:36:05,820
memory, this secret code is
stored it is that trivial. A

1673
01:36:05,820 --> 01:36:10,170
half an hour, the the IRA the
FBI knows this. Apple knows

1674
01:36:10,170 --> 01:36:12,870
this. And this is not an
indictment of Apple, any

1675
01:36:12,870 --> 01:36:15,630
computer. And this is a
computer, any computer that

1676
01:36:15,630 --> 01:36:19,410
falls into someone's hands.
Well, anybody can do it, which

1677
01:36:19,410 --> 01:36:22,800
is why corporate data centres
keep their computers locked up,

1678
01:36:22,920 --> 01:36:25,440
and which is why we ought to
keep our own phones locked up.

1679
01:36:25,470 --> 01:36:28,440
Now. Do you think that this is
actually something that can be

1680
01:36:28,440 --> 01:36:29,100
done that way?

1681
01:36:30,750 --> 01:36:33,180
Well, I know what he's saying.
Yeah, I

1682
01:36:33,180 --> 01:36:34,350
understand that. You know, he's
going

1683
01:36:36,900 --> 01:36:40,740
It's interesting what he's
trying to say, because there is

1684
01:36:41,880 --> 01:36:46,800
it's getting the code off the
thing. I'm not sure how you do

1685
01:36:46,800 --> 01:36:49,650
that. But I suppose it's doable.
Maybe that's what Apple's needed

1686
01:36:49,650 --> 01:36:55,770
for. Now, there's there's some
belief that the way this thing

1687
01:36:55,770 --> 01:36:58,380
is structured, and there's an in
there's a lot of encryption

1688
01:36:58,380 --> 01:37:03,960
involved. I understand in in the
code itself, so the code isn't

1689
01:37:03,960 --> 01:37:08,790
just running straight up. And
that means this is that error,

1690
01:37:08,790 --> 01:37:10,620
error. 53 or whatever it is.

1691
01:37:10,860 --> 01:37:15,060
That's yeah, that's part of the
Secure Enclave thing with a sub

1692
01:37:15,060 --> 01:37:15,270
part

1693
01:37:15,270 --> 01:37:19,830
of iOS nine. Yeah. If you would
try to, if you take a phone

1694
01:37:19,830 --> 01:37:22,140
apart and put it back together,
because you didn't say it had a

1695
01:37:22,140 --> 01:37:26,400
bad button, and you want it, you
take the phone apart, put a new

1696
01:37:26,400 --> 01:37:28,980
button and put it put it back
together. This error shows up in

1697
01:37:28,980 --> 01:37:30,060
other phones bricked?

1698
01:37:30,090 --> 01:37:32,670
Yeah. But But that's that has
nothing to do with what he's

1699
01:37:32,670 --> 01:37:33,690
talking about. That is I

1700
01:37:33,690 --> 01:37:38,640
know, but I'm just saying that
there is a belief that the the

1701
01:37:38,640 --> 01:37:41,310
only reason that would happen if
you when you will go to iOS nine

1702
01:37:41,310 --> 01:37:44,760
is because according to the
people that talk about this

1703
01:37:44,760 --> 01:37:49,860
error, the phone is like a a
hole. It's like, once somebody

1704
01:37:49,980 --> 01:37:53,850
messes with one element of it,
because there's like a it's like

1705
01:37:53,850 --> 01:37:59,160
a whole phone requires a
checksum, let's say. And so you

1706
01:37:59,190 --> 01:38:02,790
go in there and you you pull
that little piece of code out

1707
01:38:02,790 --> 01:38:05,430
and try to run things again,
there's still this check some

1708
01:38:05,430 --> 01:38:08,310
element that's going on that
would look as an ANA, this phone

1709
01:38:08,310 --> 01:38:12,390
has been touched. And now the
phone is bricked. I don't know

1710
01:38:12,390 --> 01:38:16,020
that he can get around that
necessarily. Now, maybe you can

1711
01:38:16,020 --> 01:38:16,140
if

1712
01:38:16,140 --> 01:38:19,170
well, but he's saying something
different. He's saying the

1713
01:38:19,200 --> 01:38:23,220
before you take it apart, you
hit the touchpad with you know,

1714
01:38:23,220 --> 01:38:29,580
just a couple of digits, then
you look in the in all the

1715
01:38:29,580 --> 01:38:33,090
registries, I guess, within the
chip itself, and that number has

1716
01:38:33,090 --> 01:38:36,300
to show up somewhere and that
you could do that. I guess

1717
01:38:36,300 --> 01:38:39,270
before an error 53 Because that
seems to appear only when you

1718
01:38:39,270 --> 01:38:41,910
put it together and then upgrade
the iOS. That's when that

1719
01:38:41,910 --> 01:38:44,430
happens. But that's fine. It
doesn't really matter that much.

1720
01:38:44,430 --> 01:38:46,560
It's we don't know. We don't
know you. You want to

1721
01:38:46,830 --> 01:38:50,250
know, I would like to see,
here's what I would do, I would

1722
01:38:50,250 --> 01:38:55,080
say is McAfee correct. Let's
find out. Let's take a phone, an

1723
01:38:55,740 --> 01:39:02,640
iPhone five, encoded, encrypted.
User go use the pet you turn

1724
01:39:02,640 --> 01:39:06,000
everything on so it's safe. And
then give it to him and say

1725
01:39:06,000 --> 01:39:09,360
okay, crack this phone before he
touched the FBI phone, right?

1726
01:39:09,390 --> 01:39:12,300
Let's see if you can do it. If
you can, if he can show that you

1727
01:39:12,300 --> 01:39:16,620
can do it a proof of concept
with another phone, not the one

1728
01:39:16,620 --> 01:39:20,910
that you you don't want screwed
up. Then I say Okay, great. Now

1729
01:39:20,910 --> 01:39:25,800
take the real phone and go for
it. Yeah, I have seen none. I

1730
01:39:25,800 --> 01:39:27,840
have not seen this. I want to
see that.

1731
01:39:27,870 --> 01:39:30,150
Well, there was there were a
couple other ideas on how to how

1732
01:39:30,150 --> 01:39:33,000
to do this that came up in the
conversation. But first we start

1733
01:39:33,000 --> 01:39:36,270
off with Mr. Comey. Mr. Comey
had all kinds of little ditties

1734
01:39:36,270 --> 01:39:39,900
that he just spread around. He
to me he was freewheeling he did

1735
01:39:39,900 --> 01:39:44,430
not really have a grasp of the
material. We got caught a lot on

1736
01:39:44,430 --> 01:39:46,920
things. He just had no idea. He
was honest. He said, I don't

1737
01:39:46,920 --> 01:39:51,480
know. I don't know. I don't
know. And here is his first

1738
01:39:52,020 --> 01:39:53,670
start of the whole deal.

1739
01:39:53,670 --> 01:39:56,670
I hear folks talking about keys
and backdoors actually don't see

1740
01:39:56,670 --> 01:39:59,970
that this way when there are
issues about backdoors This is a

1741
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:02,880
Bow. There's already a door on
that iPhone. Essentially, we're

1742
01:40:02,880 --> 01:40:05,880
asking Apple to take the vicious
guard dog away. Let us try and

1743
01:40:05,880 --> 01:40:09,540
pick the lock. The later phones,
as I understand the six and

1744
01:40:09,540 --> 01:40:12,900
after there aren't doors, so
there isn't going to be can you

1745
01:40:12,900 --> 01:40:14,910
take the guard dog away and let
us pick the lock?

1746
01:40:15,630 --> 01:40:20,400
Hmm. Though that was my ears
perked up. Because this is

1747
01:40:20,430 --> 01:40:24,300
clearly not just about these old
phones, this entire charade.

1748
01:40:24,300 --> 01:40:28,260
Feraud is for something else.
And we'll probably learn as we

1749
01:40:28,260 --> 01:40:31,350
go through. And I do want to say
that I told you when you sent me

1750
01:40:31,350 --> 01:40:33,510
the newsletter for to proofread.
And I said, Oh, yeah, I'll have

1751
01:40:33,510 --> 01:40:36,990
my report on Apple, which in the
newsletter turned into Adam has

1752
01:40:36,990 --> 01:40:40,620
discovered something big in the
Apple case. While you roasted

1753
01:40:40,620 --> 01:40:44,850
me, bro. That was not fair. That
was not fair. Why? I didn't say

1754
01:40:44,850 --> 01:40:46,110
I had something big.

1755
01:40:46,500 --> 01:40:48,480
Well, you got some this is big
to me.

1756
01:40:49,350 --> 01:40:56,340
Okay, we continue. Now we have
this is Congressman Nadler, who

1757
01:40:56,340 --> 01:41:00,480
does understand encryption.
Comey, not so much

1758
01:41:00,480 --> 01:41:03,210
encryption software is free,
open source and widely

1759
01:41:03,210 --> 01:41:06,510
available. If Congress was to
pass a law forcing us companies

1760
01:41:06,510 --> 01:41:09,330
to provide law enforcement with
access to encrypted systems?

1761
01:41:09,660 --> 01:41:12,720
Would that law stop bad actors
from using their own encryption?

1762
01:41:13,680 --> 01:41:17,130
It would not. It would not. So
the bad actors would just get

1763
01:41:17,130 --> 01:41:17,550
around it.

1764
01:41:18,690 --> 01:41:22,080
Sure. encryptions always been
available to bad actors nation.

1765
01:41:22,080 --> 01:41:22,410
So

1766
01:41:22,410 --> 01:41:26,190
So if we were to pass a law,
saying that Apple and whoever

1767
01:41:26,190 --> 01:41:29,010
else had to put backdoors or
whatever you want to call them

1768
01:41:29,010 --> 01:41:32,220
into their systems, the bad
actors that were concerned with

1769
01:41:32,220 --> 01:41:35,580
all the appropriate with all the
concomitant

1770
01:41:37,140 --> 01:41:39,060
smooth, good word concomitant,

1771
01:41:39,540 --> 01:41:41,880
yes, I use that word. It's all
the follow up stuff is out of

1772
01:41:41,880 --> 01:41:44,550
means no good stuff that happens
in parallel.

1773
01:41:45,030 --> 01:41:47,910
Oh, Concannon, it's good word,
I'm gonna learn another word.

1774
01:41:48,600 --> 01:41:51,480
Whoever else had to put
backdoors or whatever want to

1775
01:41:51,480 --> 01:41:54,300
call them into their systems,
the bad actors that were

1776
01:41:54,300 --> 01:41:56,670
concerned with all the
appropriate with all the

1777
01:41:57,450 --> 01:42:03,390
concomitant surrenders of
privacy, etc, etc. The bad

1778
01:42:03,390 --> 01:42:05,370
actors could easily get around
that by making their own

1779
01:42:05,370 --> 01:42:06,240
encryption systems.

1780
01:42:08,130 --> 01:42:10,920
The reason I'm hesitating is, I
think we're mixing together two

1781
01:42:10,920 --> 01:42:13,200
things, data in motion and data
at rest. Oops,

1782
01:42:13,230 --> 01:42:16,560
this is where he goes wrong. But
I'm not quite sure what to say.

1783
01:42:16,560 --> 01:42:17,550
But a date a motion data,

1784
01:42:17,700 --> 01:42:21,150
guys couldn't make the rounds.
But the bad guy,

1785
01:42:21,180 --> 01:42:24,600
I mean, rewind that a bit. So he
does not he has such a lack of

1786
01:42:24,600 --> 01:42:27,240
understanding. He thinks that
this encryption, or at least

1787
01:42:27,240 --> 01:42:31,470
he's feigning lack of
understanding is about the phone

1788
01:42:31,470 --> 01:42:35,250
and not about just taking a
file, encrypting it and sending

1789
01:42:35,250 --> 01:42:37,320
it off, if free and clear, it's
an encrypted file.

1790
01:42:39,150 --> 01:42:41,520
I'm the reason I'm hesitating
is, I think we're mixing

1791
01:42:41,520 --> 01:42:43,950
together two things, data in
motion and data at rest, the bad

1792
01:42:43,950 --> 01:42:47,550
guys couldn't make their own
phones. But the bad guys could

1793
01:42:47,550 --> 01:42:49,980
always try and find a device
that was strongly encrypted. The

1794
01:42:49,980 --> 01:42:53,730
big change here happened in the
fall of 2014, when the companies

1795
01:42:53,730 --> 01:42:56,220
flipped from available
encryption to default, and this

1796
01:42:56,220 --> 01:42:59,490
is when Apple also stated as a
part of their terms of service

1797
01:42:59,490 --> 01:43:02,310
and part of their legal
guidelines for law enforcement

1798
01:43:02,310 --> 01:43:07,980
agencies. They said, As of iOS
eight, we no longer can provide

1799
01:43:07,980 --> 01:43:11,460
the service of extracting data
for you. And this, of course, is

1800
01:43:11,460 --> 01:43:12,480
when this really started.

1801
01:43:12,690 --> 01:43:16,740
And that's a stop there for
segue. This is really and this

1802
01:43:16,740 --> 01:43:20,970
seems to stem because of the
coincidental dates from the

1803
01:43:20,970 --> 01:43:24,660
Snowden release. Oh, yeah. So
they were Apple showed up on it

1804
01:43:24,660 --> 01:43:31,020
on a on an NSA or CIA slide in a
deck. Yes. selling out to the

1805
01:43:31,020 --> 01:43:31,890
government. Yes.

1806
01:43:31,920 --> 01:43:34,080
Which at that time, they
arguably were doing.

1807
01:43:34,350 --> 01:43:35,310
Yes, yeah.

1808
01:43:35,790 --> 01:43:39,750
Available encryption to default.
And that's that's the shadow

1809
01:43:39,810 --> 01:43:40,590
going dark. But

1810
01:43:40,589 --> 01:43:44,639
couldn't foreign companies, and
bad actors generally do that?

1811
01:43:44,669 --> 01:43:45,569
Whatever we said,

1812
01:43:45,780 --> 01:43:48,570
Sure. Potentially, people could
say, I love this American

1813
01:43:48,570 --> 01:43:51,570
device, but because I worry
about a judge ordering access to

1814
01:43:51,570 --> 01:43:54,840
it. I'm going to buy this phone
from a Nordic country that's

1815
01:43:54,840 --> 01:43:57,420
different in some way that could
happen. I have a hard time

1816
01:43:57,420 --> 01:44:00,630
seeing it happen. A lot. Could
happen. I knew you'd like that.

1817
01:44:01,980 --> 01:44:03,090
Talking about

1818
01:44:03,120 --> 01:44:07,830
well, his mission is clearly to
have devices in the United

1819
01:44:07,830 --> 01:44:12,030
States. Created with a way for
law enforcement get all that

1820
01:44:12,030 --> 01:44:15,090
data from law enforcement to get
in. Okay. Then we have Darryl

1821
01:44:15,090 --> 01:44:20,190
ice Adair Lysa. Famous for his
technology prowess for

1822
01:44:20,520 --> 01:44:24,420
patenting, inventing and
marketing successfully the Viper

1823
01:44:24,420 --> 01:44:31,200
car alarm system. I don't know
if he did more. But he seems to

1824
01:44:31,200 --> 01:44:34,770
think that he's an expert in the
encryption security because of

1825
01:44:34,770 --> 01:44:38,610
his Viper car alarm. Background.
What else did he do?

1826
01:44:39,930 --> 01:44:42,270
No, I thought he was an
entrepreneur of some sort. He

1827
01:44:42,270 --> 01:44:45,090
had the vital troublemaker in
these events, though,

1828
01:44:45,120 --> 01:44:52,110
but and so he had he had an idea
of how to get around the 10

1829
01:44:52,110 --> 01:44:56,130
tries, your 10 tries, you're
busted and the delay in between

1830
01:44:56,160 --> 01:45:02,130
every single attempt, which it's
No less reasonable than what

1831
01:45:03,840 --> 01:45:07,500
McAfee was saying earlier. But
he's really doing it to make a

1832
01:45:07,500 --> 01:45:07,920
point we

1833
01:45:07,920 --> 01:45:11,340
have engaged all parts of the US
government. See, does anybody

1834
01:45:11,340 --> 01:45:15,570
have a way short of asking Apple
to do it with a five c running

1835
01:45:15,600 --> 01:45:18,120
iOS nine to do this? And we do
not.

1836
01:45:18,300 --> 01:45:23,370
Okay, well, let's go through the
five c running iOS nine is does

1837
01:45:23,370 --> 01:45:26,910
the five c have a non volatile
memory in which all of the

1838
01:45:26,910 --> 01:45:32,580
encrypted data and the selection
switches for the phone settings

1839
01:45:32,610 --> 01:45:34,590
are all located in that
encrypted data?

1840
01:45:35,850 --> 01:45:36,990
This is a question but

1841
01:45:38,070 --> 01:45:41,400
I don't know. It does. Take my
word for it for now.

1842
01:45:41,429 --> 01:45:44,669
Because I Hold on Why is he
asking question that he knows

1843
01:45:44,669 --> 01:45:45,359
the answer to

1844
01:45:45,599 --> 01:45:49,559
because he's making a point. He
wants to make a point these an

1845
01:45:49,559 --> 01:45:52,139
asshole. That's what you do in
the in these hearings, you've

1846
01:45:52,139 --> 01:45:54,119
set someone up to come up with
an answer you say, well, in

1847
01:45:54,119 --> 01:45:56,579
fact, they do this the setup,
that's what they do.

1848
01:45:56,670 --> 01:46:00,180
That means that you can in fact
removed from the phone all of

1849
01:46:00,180 --> 01:46:03,090
its memory, all of its non
volatile memory, its disk drive,

1850
01:46:03,090 --> 01:46:06,960
if you will, and set it over
here and have a true copy of it

1851
01:46:07,110 --> 01:46:11,190
that you could conduct infinite
number of attacks on, let's

1852
01:46:11,220 --> 01:46:14,310
assume that you can make an
infinite number of copies once

1853
01:46:14,310 --> 01:46:18,510
you make one copy. Right? Right.
I have no idea. I don't know.

1854
01:46:19,380 --> 01:46:21,810
Well, let's go through what you
asked. And I'm doing this

1855
01:46:21,810 --> 01:46:23,790
because I came out of the
security business. And this

1856
01:46:23,790 --> 01:46:25,020
befuddles me that this

1857
01:46:25,530 --> 01:46:29,460
car alarms is now the security
business according to ISO, I,

1858
01:46:29,460 --> 01:46:29,820
like

1859
01:46:29,849 --> 01:46:33,059
haven't looked at the source
code. And you don't really

1860
01:46:33,059 --> 01:46:37,379
understand the disk drive, at
least to answer my rather dumb

1861
01:46:37,379 --> 01:46:41,999
questions, if you will, if
there's only a memory, and that

1862
01:46:41,999 --> 01:46:45,359
memory, that non volatile memory
sits here, and there's a chip

1863
01:46:45,359 --> 01:46:47,789
and the chip does have an
encryption code that was burned

1864
01:46:47,789 --> 01:46:53,039
into it. And you can make 10,000
copies of this chip, this non

1865
01:46:53,039 --> 01:46:56,729
volatile memory hard drive, then
you can you can perform as many

1866
01:46:56,729 --> 01:47:00,479
attacks as you want on it. Now
you've asked specifically Apple

1867
01:47:00,779 --> 01:47:04,139
to defeat the finger code, so
you can attack it Oh,

1868
01:47:04,169 --> 01:47:07,229
automatically, so you don't have
to punch in codes. You've asked

1869
01:47:07,229 --> 01:47:11,549
them to eliminate the the 10 and
destroy, but you haven't as far

1870
01:47:11,549 --> 01:47:15,479
as I know. And I like that 10
and destroy them. Okay, if we

1871
01:47:15,479 --> 01:47:20,309
make 1000 copies, or 2000 copies
of this, and we put it with the

1872
01:47:20,309 --> 01:47:25,319
chip, and we run five tries 00
through 04. And then throw that

1873
01:47:25,319 --> 01:47:29,039
image away and put another one
in and do that 2000 times Won't

1874
01:47:29,039 --> 01:47:32,339
we have tried with a non
changing chip and an encryption

1875
01:47:32,339 --> 01:47:36,509
code that is duplicated 2000
times when we have tried all

1876
01:47:36,779 --> 01:47:39,689
10,000 possible combinations in
a matter of

1877
01:47:39,690 --> 01:47:43,350
hours by like that idea. That
could also possibly work.

1878
01:47:43,710 --> 01:47:48,540
My mind you guys got a 40
character password, which you

1879
01:47:48,540 --> 01:47:49,920
can do with an apple. Yeah,

1880
01:47:49,980 --> 01:47:53,340
but we pretty sure he did.
Nobody has that. Well, we know

1881
01:47:53,340 --> 01:47:56,280
he didn't because they look at
the phone. It could be well we'd

1882
01:47:56,280 --> 01:47:57,780
actually you're right, we don't
know and ask

1883
01:47:57,780 --> 01:48:00,720
that question. The question is,
how can you come before this

1884
01:48:00,720 --> 01:48:04,200
committee and before a federal
judge and demand that somebody

1885
01:48:04,200 --> 01:48:08,100
else invent something? If you
can't answer the questions that

1886
01:48:08,100 --> 01:48:09,480
your people have tried this?

1887
01:48:09,660 --> 01:48:13,740
And I think that Comey came
unprepared and he should have

1888
01:48:13,950 --> 01:48:17,130
expected this. And you know, at
this point, I'm also asking,

1889
01:48:17,160 --> 01:48:19,380
Well, what the hell is this
whole thing about what are they

1890
01:48:19,380 --> 01:48:22,410
having this conversation about?
Alright, first, we need some a

1891
01:48:22,410 --> 01:48:26,700
little more. We have more
splainin to do before the I

1892
01:48:26,730 --> 01:48:29,790
presume that's how Comey talks
to his team. Okay, I gotta tell

1893
01:48:29,790 --> 01:48:32,610
these boneheads what exactly is
going on. They don't understand

1894
01:48:32,610 --> 01:48:37,020
Secure Enclave and then the 1010
and destroy and the timeouts and

1895
01:48:37,020 --> 01:48:38,190
how do I how do

1896
01:48:38,190 --> 01:48:42,150
I explain I want to make a stop
you here for a second? Just a

1897
01:48:42,150 --> 01:48:45,720
little commentary, please. As I
was reading some article by all

1898
01:48:45,720 --> 01:48:49,110
you know, we have to do these
and of course those the women in

1899
01:48:49,110 --> 01:48:50,820
the chicken coop one of them
said, Well, you know, the

1900
01:48:50,820 --> 01:48:53,430
government's pretty poor with
technology. And so I'm reading

1901
01:48:53,430 --> 01:48:56,010
and one of the magazines or
newspapers about how the

1902
01:48:56,010 --> 01:48:58,680
government's looking for the
best hackers, the best guys.

1903
01:48:58,680 --> 01:49:02,850
Yes, people that hack the
Pentagon exercise. They want all

1904
01:49:02,850 --> 01:49:05,070
these things and then But
meanwhile, if you talk to

1905
01:49:05,070 --> 01:49:10,800
anybody in the community they
don't want anybody that that's

1906
01:49:10,800 --> 01:49:14,250
actually competent because they
won't pass the security checks.

1907
01:49:15,960 --> 01:49:20,490
They're not squeaky clean. Some
of them are transgender God,

1908
01:49:20,490 --> 01:49:24,840
what are we gonna do with that
hose? You can't you know, it's

1909
01:49:24,840 --> 01:49:25,080
the

1910
01:49:25,200 --> 01:49:28,290
hi I'm Tank Girl. I'm here to
hack the iPhone.

1911
01:49:28,860 --> 01:49:33,690
If if the government won't, like
find a way to implement use

1912
01:49:33,690 --> 01:49:36,900
these people, the real hackers,
the guys who have a lot of them

1913
01:49:36,900 --> 01:49:41,610
are a social, some of them are
Aspergers and a lot of all kinds

1914
01:49:41,610 --> 01:49:41,700
of

1915
01:49:41,730 --> 01:49:44,730
and a lot of them don't want to
work against the government.

1916
01:49:45,690 --> 01:49:48,330
A lot of them would do with the
kind of money they can get or

1917
01:49:48,330 --> 01:49:52,050
even cause Well, that would have
nothing to do with them.

1918
01:49:52,080 --> 01:49:54,570
They have to have consultants
they can't hire them. They can't

1919
01:49:54,570 --> 01:49:57,390
hire them. They can't they can't
they because government you

1920
01:49:57,390 --> 01:49:59,970
know, they have we have a cyber
force which is all volunteer

1921
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:02,820
Here, there's no money. These
guys are getting stuck. They're

1922
01:50:02,820 --> 01:50:06,930
getting out. Yeah, screw it.
Screw you. Okay, though anyway,

1923
01:50:06,930 --> 01:50:09,960
call me has to explain to the
stupid people what the concept

1924
01:50:09,960 --> 01:50:12,840
is between the encrypted data
which they want to get at, which

1925
01:50:13,200 --> 01:50:15,780
I guess is two and 56 DS
encrypted. And you know, good

1926
01:50:15,780 --> 01:50:19,890
luck with that. But, but first
we have to remove the guard dog

1927
01:50:19,890 --> 01:50:22,320
and he has to explain this in
simple terms. There we go.

1928
01:50:22,350 --> 01:50:27,660
So rather than giving you the
key, it's really you want apple

1929
01:50:27,900 --> 01:50:31,560
to turn the security system off
so they can get into the phone

1930
01:50:31,560 --> 01:50:32,670
or you can get into the phone.

1931
01:50:32,700 --> 01:50:36,930
Yeah, my homely metaphor was
take away the drooling watchdog

1932
01:50:36,930 --> 01:50:39,630
is going to attack us if we try
and open it. Give us time to

1933
01:50:39,630 --> 01:50:43,230
pick the lock. Oh, man,

1934
01:50:43,590 --> 01:50:47,190
country metaphors so nice. Okay,
then we have Gowdy, I like to

1935
01:50:47,190 --> 01:50:49,440
drooling the drool as the
drooling guard, he

1936
01:50:49,440 --> 01:50:53,220
has to be drooling. Is it
watchdog good enough?

1937
01:50:53,490 --> 01:51:00,420
No. This is all about sound
bites. Then we get Trey Gowdy

1938
01:51:00,870 --> 01:51:05,280
Gowdy, he wants Apple to open it
up, D is D, and he has a couple

1939
01:51:05,280 --> 01:51:08,040
of beautiful terms in here. And
he's just an interesting guy to

1940
01:51:08,040 --> 01:51:10,470
listen to in general. Of course,
he isn't also an attorney,

1941
01:51:10,500 --> 01:51:13,830
I have colleagues and others who
are advocating for these

1942
01:51:13,860 --> 01:51:16,080
evidence free zones, nice

1943
01:51:16,110 --> 01:51:20,160
evidence free zones. This is
when we're getting down to brass

1944
01:51:20,160 --> 01:51:23,550
tacks, they're just gonna be
it's a great term, I know it's a

1945
01:51:23,550 --> 01:51:26,760
great term. And what he's
talking about, is having a

1946
01:51:26,760 --> 01:51:31,410
device for the first time in
history that is only accessible

1947
01:51:31,410 --> 01:51:37,470
to the person who holds the the
key in their head, and no one

1948
01:51:37,470 --> 01:51:40,470
else can open it. That's this is
part of what the conversation is

1949
01:51:40,470 --> 01:51:40,830
about

1950
01:51:40,860 --> 01:51:44,370
evidence free zones. They're
just going to be compartments of

1951
01:51:44,370 --> 01:51:48,420
life where you are precluded
from going to find evidence of

1952
01:51:48,420 --> 01:51:53,250
anything. And I'm trying to, I'm
trying to determine whether or

1953
01:51:53,250 --> 01:51:56,610
not we as a society are going to
accept that that there are

1954
01:51:56,610 --> 01:51:59,790
certain no matter how compelling
the government's interest is,

1955
01:51:59,790 --> 01:52:03,600
and accessing that evidence. We
are declaring right now, this is

1956
01:52:03,600 --> 01:52:07,500
an evidence free zone. You can
go here, no matter whether it's

1957
01:52:07,500 --> 01:52:11,790
a terrorist plot, national
security, there's nothing that

1958
01:52:11,790 --> 01:52:14,010
the government has a more
compelling interest in than

1959
01:52:14,010 --> 01:52:17,580
that. And we're going to create
evidence free zones. Am I

1960
01:52:17,580 --> 01:52:21,870
missing something? Is that? Is
that how you see it that you

1961
01:52:21,870 --> 01:52:24,300
just can't go in these
categories? unless somebody's

1962
01:52:24,300 --> 01:52:24,960
concerned?

1963
01:52:25,559 --> 01:52:27,989
That's my worry. And why I think
it's so important we have this

1964
01:52:27,989 --> 01:52:30,809
conversation, because even on
the surface thing, it sounds

1965
01:52:30,809 --> 01:52:33,119
great when people say, Hey, you
buy this device, no one will

1966
01:52:33,119 --> 01:52:36,659
ever be able to look at your
stuff. But there are times when

1967
01:52:36,659 --> 01:52:39,119
law enforcement saves our lives,
rescues our children.

1968
01:52:39,150 --> 01:52:42,300
Okay. Okay. So there it is.
There's, there's there's what

1969
01:52:42,300 --> 01:52:45,420
Comey is really talking about
that we cannot have evidence

1970
01:52:45,420 --> 01:52:49,440
free zones, because not that
they want to do proper law

1971
01:52:49,440 --> 01:52:52,830
enforcement know that he's gonna
come up with a hope. And then he

1972
01:52:52,830 --> 01:52:56,370
doesn't even use terrorism in
his argument. No, because your

1973
01:52:56,370 --> 01:52:59,250
children may be lost, you know,
you may not be able to solve

1974
01:52:59,250 --> 01:53:01,380
them homicide, or children,

1975
01:53:01,620 --> 01:53:04,050
and rescues our neighbourhoods
by going to a judge and getting

1976
01:53:04,050 --> 01:53:06,660
permission to look at our stuff,
rescues our neighbourhood. And I

1977
01:53:06,660 --> 01:53:09,270
come to the case of the Baton
Rouge eight month pregnant woman

1978
01:53:09,270 --> 01:53:12,600
shot when she opens her door.
Her mom says she keeps a diary

1979
01:53:12,600 --> 01:53:15,390
on her phone. Oh, look at the
diary to figure out what might

1980
01:53:15,390 --> 01:53:16,380
have been going on in her life.

1981
01:53:16,410 --> 01:53:19,350
Oh, because we could have some
resolve for her.

1982
01:53:19,500 --> 01:53:24,000
Who is she texting with? That's
a problem. I love privacy. All

1983
01:53:24,000 --> 01:53:27,480
of us also love public safety.
And it's so easy to talk about

1984
01:53:27,480 --> 01:53:31,110
by this amazing device, you'll
be private. But you have to take

1985
01:53:31,110 --> 01:53:32,700
the time to think okay, there's
that you

1986
01:53:32,700 --> 01:53:35,370
hear what he's saying, John,
this is this is the word Apple

1987
01:53:35,370 --> 01:53:39,300
wants to have a complete
evidence free device. Yeah, but

1988
01:53:39,300 --> 01:53:42,150
it's free zone. And then law
enforcement does not want it.

1989
01:53:42,719 --> 01:53:44,969
But you have to take the time to
think okay, there's that and

1990
01:53:44,969 --> 01:53:47,459
what are the costs of that, and
that's where this collision is

1991
01:53:47,459 --> 01:53:47,969
coming in?

1992
01:53:48,660 --> 01:53:51,270
Well, I love privacy too. But I
want my fellow citizens to

1993
01:53:51,270 --> 01:53:55,950
understand that most of us also,
in varying degrees also love our

1994
01:53:55,950 --> 01:53:59,100
bodies and the physical
integrity of our body. I love

1995
01:53:59,100 --> 01:54:03,150
this analogy. But since murder,
the government has been able to

1996
01:54:03,150 --> 01:54:08,250
access orders for either blood
against the will of the of the

1997
01:54:08,250 --> 01:54:12,780
defendant or in some instances,
surgical procedures against the

1998
01:54:12,780 --> 01:54:15,360
will of the defendant. The
defendant

1999
01:54:15,360 --> 01:54:17,550
has something in his anal
cavity.

2000
01:54:19,800 --> 01:54:23,370
I've always I've always wondered
why the supreme court went in

2001
01:54:23,370 --> 01:54:26,340
that direction because it seems
and it talks about you know,

2002
01:54:26,340 --> 01:54:30,240
they can't I think in some
places you have your DNA

2003
01:54:30,240 --> 01:54:35,370
extracted, but the blood thing
or the even the breath test all

2004
01:54:35,370 --> 01:54:39,660
the rest of it. I don't see how
this any of those things is not

2005
01:54:39,930 --> 01:54:44,610
the same as testifying against
yourself. I just don't see it.

2006
01:54:44,790 --> 01:54:47,970
There was your your your proof.
You don't have to testify

2007
01:54:47,970 --> 01:54:49,800
against you. You don't have to
go on in front of a group. Did

2008
01:54:49,800 --> 01:54:52,860
you kill that person? I refused
on the grounds of whatever Well,

2009
01:54:52,860 --> 01:54:56,310
this is what this is why he's
bringing it up, obviously. But

2010
01:54:56,370 --> 01:54:59,880
but that you know, I don't have
that because it wasn't all that

2011
01:54:59,880 --> 01:55:02,610
in First thing, but there were
counter arguments to that. Why

2012
01:55:02,610 --> 01:55:05,160
that why that analogy does not
play?

2013
01:55:05,310 --> 01:55:08,910
Well, I I also think that this
is not about any of these

2014
01:55:08,910 --> 01:55:12,000
discussions at all. It's about
marketing. Correct. We're

2015
01:55:12,000 --> 01:55:15,270
getting can sell a phone, it's
got a backdoor in it or anything

2016
01:55:15,270 --> 01:55:16,170
else. Well, he's,

2017
01:55:16,650 --> 01:55:20,100
we still have to come up with
some whack jobs scenarios where

2018
01:55:20,100 --> 01:55:22,470
you know, Apple is the
gatekeeper and oh my god, and

2019
01:55:22,470 --> 01:55:26,280
how is this going to work? And
this is Ted Deutsch to douche

2020
01:55:27,210 --> 01:55:31,050
with Comey. This is one of my
favourite answers from Comey.

2021
01:55:31,080 --> 01:55:34,770
So they get something that Judge
will sort out apples contention,

2022
01:55:35,130 --> 01:55:37,170
which again, I believe is made
in good faith is that there

2023
01:55:37,170 --> 01:55:40,770
would be substantial risk around
creating this software on the

2024
01:55:40,770 --> 01:55:42,960
government side kind of
sceptical. But we could be

2025
01:55:42,960 --> 01:55:46,650
wrong. Because I think the
government's argument is, that's

2026
01:55:46,650 --> 01:55:50,250
your business to protect your
software, your innovation, this

2027
01:55:50,250 --> 01:55:51,840
would be usable in one phone,

2028
01:55:51,870 --> 01:55:54,870
what could possibly go wrong?
How could apple? And what could

2029
01:55:54,870 --> 01:55:57,480
go what could have happened with
Apple who can clearly do this

2030
01:55:57,480 --> 01:55:59,940
work? If they did, they would
refuse? How could it still get

2031
01:55:59,940 --> 01:56:01,470
out? John? What could what could
happen?

2032
01:56:02,910 --> 01:56:04,020
You got me.

2033
01:56:04,590 --> 01:56:06,540
But again, that's something the
judge is gonna have to sort out

2034
01:56:06,540 --> 01:56:07,860
it's not an easy question.

2035
01:56:07,889 --> 01:56:11,669
If if it's if it's the case,
though, that is usable in more

2036
01:56:11,669 --> 01:56:15,749
than one phone. And then it
applies beyond there than the

2037
01:56:15,779 --> 01:56:20,399
public safety concerns that we
may have that a lot of us have

2038
01:56:20,429 --> 01:56:24,029
about what would happen if the
bad guys got access to our

2039
01:56:24,029 --> 01:56:27,539
phones and our children's
phones. In that case? Those are

2040
01:56:27,539 --> 01:56:28,859
really valid, aren't they?

2041
01:56:29,610 --> 01:56:32,550
Sure, for sure. The question
that I think we're going to have

2042
01:56:32,550 --> 01:56:36,300
litigation about is how
reasonable is that concern? And

2043
01:56:36,330 --> 01:56:38,370
you know, slippery slope
arguments are always attractive.

2044
01:56:38,370 --> 01:56:40,470
But I mean, I suppose you could
say, well, apples engineers have

2045
01:56:40,470 --> 01:56:42,870
this in their head. What if
they're kidnapped and forced to

2046
01:56:42,870 --> 01:56:45,660
write software? That's why the
judge has to sort this out

2047
01:56:45,750 --> 01:56:48,120
between good lawyers on both
sides making all reasonable

2048
01:56:48,120 --> 01:56:48,540
arguments.

2049
01:56:48,720 --> 01:56:52,380
Yeah, that can happen. He
doesn't understand that Apple

2050
01:56:52,380 --> 01:56:55,230
ultimately holds the key I mean,
any any device that has

2051
01:56:55,260 --> 01:56:58,470
automatic software updates, you
know, Apple holds the key to

2052
01:56:58,470 --> 01:57:01,230
bloating software, but okay,
it's Yeah, I think a good

2053
01:57:01,230 --> 01:57:05,340
kidnapped give us the key
viewers, the 256 D has

2054
01:57:05,400 --> 01:57:09,960
encrypted key mini rock in
bowling Boeing. Boris, Boris,

2055
01:57:09,960 --> 01:57:12,690
give us the key. Oh, man.

2056
01:57:12,780 --> 01:57:15,960
All right now, Comey, not to be
outdone by Eisah has his own

2057
01:57:15,960 --> 01:57:18,600
little meme words that he wants
to bring into the conversation.

2058
01:57:18,900 --> 01:57:22,440
As he explains the main crux of
what is going on here,

2059
01:57:22,470 --> 01:57:24,900
you do have a reasonable
expectation of privacy in your

2060
01:57:24,900 --> 01:57:28,110
home, in your car and in your
devices. The government under

2061
01:57:28,110 --> 01:57:31,290
our constitution is required to
overcome that by going to an

2062
01:57:31,290 --> 01:57:33,420
independent judge making showing
of probable cause

2063
01:57:33,810 --> 01:57:37,350
this interesting interpretation
of the Constitution. But he says

2064
01:57:37,350 --> 01:57:42,540
the Constitution requires to
overcome that the in order to

2065
01:57:42,660 --> 01:57:48,030
get evidence. But the Congress,
the Constitution doesn't

2066
01:57:48,180 --> 01:57:54,060
necessarily provide that
requirement. It says here is

2067
01:57:54,060 --> 01:57:57,960
what you hear under only one
circumstance, can you do this

2068
01:57:57,990 --> 01:58:01,650
perform this type of action to
search. And that is when you

2069
01:58:01,650 --> 01:58:05,250
have probable cause. And then a
warrant, you know, there's very

2070
01:58:05,250 --> 01:58:10,680
specific language about a
warrant and what it can do. So

2071
01:58:11,160 --> 01:58:13,980
no, no, it's it's a word game at
this point in your home,

2072
01:58:14,010 --> 01:58:16,860
in your car and in your devices.
The government in our

2073
01:58:16,860 --> 01:58:19,860
constitution is required to
overcome that, by going to

2074
01:58:19,920 --> 01:58:23,100
overcome that independent judge
making showing of probable cause

2075
01:58:23,100 --> 01:58:27,630
and getting a warrant we need to
talk about as a country is we're

2076
01:58:27,630 --> 01:58:30,450
moving to a place where there
are warrant proof places in our

2077
01:58:30,450 --> 01:58:30,750
lives,

2078
01:58:31,080 --> 01:58:34,740
born proof places. These guys
are good.

2079
01:58:34,890 --> 01:58:38,100
And yes, these devices are
spectacular because they do hold

2080
01:58:38,850 --> 01:58:40,800
our whole lives, they're
different than a briefcase are

2081
01:58:40,800 --> 01:58:44,070
different than a drawer. So it
is a source with a place with a

2082
01:58:44,070 --> 01:58:46,800
tremendous reasonable
expectation of privacy. But if

2083
01:58:46,800 --> 01:58:49,410
we're going to move to a place
where that is not possible to

2084
01:58:49,410 --> 01:58:52,140
overcome that, that's a world
we've never lived in before in

2085
01:58:52,140 --> 01:58:55,230
the United States that has
profound consequences for public

2086
01:58:55,230 --> 01:58:58,560
safety. And all I'm saying is we
shouldn't drift there. Right?

2087
01:58:58,590 --> 01:59:00,930
Companies that write stuff
shouldn't tell us how to be the

2088
01:59:00,930 --> 01:59:03,420
FBI shouldn't tell us how to be
the American people should say,

2089
01:59:03,600 --> 01:59:06,750
the world is different. How do
we want to be I figure that out?

2090
01:59:06,960 --> 01:59:09,420
Okay. Now, it turns out that
that's what everyone's there for

2091
01:59:09,420 --> 01:59:12,330
is to get an opinion from the
public, we need to sway the

2092
01:59:12,330 --> 01:59:16,830
public, left or right, either.
We want a warrant proof device,

2093
01:59:17,160 --> 01:59:20,310
with evidence Free Zones
included now with evidence free

2094
01:59:20,310 --> 01:59:26,640
zones. Dude, we gotta get on
this worn proof phone now with

2095
01:59:26,640 --> 01:59:28,890
evidence free zone at Best Buy.

2096
01:59:31,560 --> 01:59:34,200
Well, I don't know how that's
different than like, for

2097
01:59:34,200 --> 01:59:41,070
example, putting it to 56 on a
on a complete hard disk. There's

2098
01:59:41,070 --> 01:59:43,470
a number of ways you can encrypt
the entire hard

2099
01:59:43,500 --> 01:59:46,290
that's an that's an evidence
free zone. Right there. Yeah.

2100
01:59:46,320 --> 01:59:48,630
Yeah. Well, they're not talking
about that. They're talking

2101
01:59:48,630 --> 01:59:51,000
about they're talking about
mining that a hard disk, which

2102
01:59:51,000 --> 01:59:55,140
is an older technology has had
this available to it for some

2103
01:59:55,140 --> 01:59:57,750
time. And nobody's bitching
about that.

2104
01:59:57,810 --> 02:00:01,620
No, no. As we go Long you'll
notice this, this whole thing is

2105
02:00:01,620 --> 02:00:05,400
bullcrap. As we go into now we
get to Apple lawyer, Bruce

2106
02:00:05,400 --> 02:00:11,190
Sewell. And he uses an analogy
here, which may tie into the

2107
02:00:11,190 --> 02:00:13,950
Second Amendment argument that
we were listening to from that

2108
02:00:13,950 --> 02:00:21,030
tech podcast. Who said, you
know, encryption is defined as a

2109
02:00:21,060 --> 02:00:25,380
weaponized technology.
Therefore, it's an it's part of

2110
02:00:25,380 --> 02:00:28,800
arms and could be protected
under the Second Amendment,

2111
02:00:29,430 --> 02:00:33,270
which I liked. Yeah, it was
outstanding. And I think the

2112
02:00:33,270 --> 02:00:37,590
apple lawyer drops a little clue
here, that that may be part of

2113
02:00:37,590 --> 02:00:41,070
their ultimate defence, although
it didn't come up anywhere else.

2114
02:00:41,070 --> 02:00:42,570
In the four and a half hours, we
are

2115
02:00:42,570 --> 02:00:47,400
moving to end to end encryption
on many devices and apps, not

2116
02:00:47,400 --> 02:00:50,190
just Apple iPhones. Why is that
happening?

2117
02:00:50,639 --> 02:00:54,959
I think it's a combination of
things. From our perspective, at

2118
02:00:54,959 --> 02:00:59,519
Apple, it's because we see
ourselves as being in an arms

2119
02:00:59,519 --> 02:01:03,539
race in an arms race with
criminals, cyber terrorists,

2120
02:01:03,569 --> 02:01:08,939
hackers, we're trying to provide
a safe and secure place for the

2121
02:01:08,939 --> 02:01:14,789
users of our devices, to be
assured that their information

2122
02:01:14,999 --> 02:01:18,959
cannot be accessed cannot be
hacked or stolen. So from our

2123
02:01:18,959 --> 02:01:21,869
perspective, that end to end
encryption move is an effort to

2124
02:01:21,869 --> 02:01:24,359
improve the safety and security
of our phones.

2125
02:01:24,509 --> 02:01:28,289
So he's talking about it as if
it's in there in an arms race,

2126
02:01:28,289 --> 02:01:32,819
and these are the weapons of
this war. But it didn't come up

2127
02:01:32,819 --> 02:01:36,089
further on. They did talk about
other constitutional amendments.

2128
02:01:36,599 --> 02:01:37,619
I have a question.

2129
02:01:38,760 --> 02:01:42,570
And let's assume that that
encryption, encryption back in

2130
02:01:42,570 --> 02:01:47,520
the Phil Zimmerman era was
considered, it was considered an

2131
02:01:47,520 --> 02:01:53,850
arms situation, an arm
something, and it was illegal to

2132
02:01:53,940 --> 02:01:56,940
Oh is defined as such for Intel,
they define and I remember

2133
02:01:56,970 --> 02:01:57,930
rotations,

2134
02:01:58,140 --> 02:02:02,400
the era you can't export this,
you can export that. There's

2135
02:02:02,400 --> 02:02:05,100
still a bunch of these products
out there that you can export

2136
02:02:05,100 --> 02:02:07,560
to, even though there's good
encryption coming out of

2137
02:02:07,560 --> 02:02:10,020
Switzerland, as there, were
there we make good, okay,

2138
02:02:10,050 --> 02:02:14,160
correct. You can export this,
you can export that. Whereas the

2139
02:02:14,160 --> 02:02:16,290
government puts some leverage on
the Apple saying, you know,

2140
02:02:16,470 --> 02:02:20,670
these phones are good laced with
encryption, that you can export

2141
02:02:20,670 --> 02:02:23,490
them. Oh, we just clamped down
on that part. If you wanted to

2142
02:02:23,490 --> 02:02:23,730
really

2143
02:02:23,730 --> 02:02:26,460
do that, that could happen. It
could possibly happen. I don't

2144
02:02:26,460 --> 02:02:27,300
know. That'd be very

2145
02:02:27,690 --> 02:02:29,400
well, that we like to leverage.
Yeah.

2146
02:02:30,600 --> 02:02:33,210
And then in dude's name,

2147
02:02:33,210 --> 02:02:34,710
why are we so lacks?

2148
02:02:36,690 --> 02:02:40,680
I have not looked into the depth
of the encryption the export

2149
02:02:40,710 --> 02:02:44,580
law. I know it got overturned
that I think that was for Intel.

2150
02:02:44,610 --> 02:02:47,700
But um, I don't know, someone
out there will know and will be

2151
02:02:47,700 --> 02:02:51,150
able to tell us, for sure. I
mean, I think that the dude's

2152
02:02:51,150 --> 02:02:55,830
name Ben and Ben, other privacy
expires in our producing

2153
02:02:55,860 --> 02:02:59,700
audience will love this next
clip. But Never would I expect

2154
02:02:59,700 --> 02:03:02,580
to hear a representative for
Apple promoting a completely

2155
02:03:02,580 --> 02:03:04,680
compromised product as safe

2156
02:03:04,710 --> 02:03:07,500
once they get in there. They
could find all kinds of other

2157
02:03:07,500 --> 02:03:10,920
restrictions that Apple has no
control over, right, with regard

2158
02:03:10,920 --> 02:03:14,430
to apps that are on the phone
with regard to various other

2159
02:03:14,430 --> 02:03:19,110
communications features that the
consumer may have chosen to put

2160
02:03:19,110 --> 02:03:20,370
on there. Is that correct?

2161
02:03:20,580 --> 02:03:23,040
That's absolutely right. Mr.
Chairman, one of the most

2162
02:03:23,040 --> 02:03:26,940
pernicious apps that that we see
in the terrorist space is

2163
02:03:26,940 --> 02:03:30,180
something called telegraph.
Telegraph is an app that can

2164
02:03:30,180 --> 02:03:33,810
reside on any phone. It has
nothing to do with Apple, it can

2165
02:03:33,810 --> 02:03:36,750
be loaded, either over the
internet or it could be loaded

2166
02:03:36,750 --> 02:03:40,890
outside of the country. And this
is a method of providing

2167
02:03:40,950 --> 02:03:44,670
absolutely unclipped uncrackable
communications.

2168
02:03:44,820 --> 02:03:49,470
Now everybody in the security
industry says this is a horrible

2169
02:03:49,470 --> 02:03:53,490
app. It's completely Yeah.
compromised.

2170
02:03:53,669 --> 02:03:57,569
Yeah, we both installed it and
we came to the if you're

2171
02:03:57,570 --> 02:04:02,400
gonna say signal, which is what
all the the military guys use

2172
02:04:02,400 --> 02:04:07,140
when talking amongst themselves.
You know?

2173
02:04:08,760 --> 02:04:13,920
Yeah, signals different. I don't
know what it is. But maybe this

2174
02:04:13,920 --> 02:04:14,970
is part of a scheme

2175
02:04:15,000 --> 02:04:16,860
called tell Isn't it called
telegram? I thought it was

2176
02:04:16,860 --> 02:04:20,670
telegram was a telegraph. by
telegram. It'd be Telegram, I

2177
02:04:20,670 --> 02:04:22,920
think. But he said. He said,
telegraph. I think it's

2178
02:04:22,920 --> 02:04:25,830
telegram. weightless. Fine. Now,
let me let you look it up. And

2179
02:04:25,830 --> 02:04:26,820
I'll listen to him against you.

2180
02:04:27,030 --> 02:04:29,790
Once they get in there. They
could find all kinds of other

2181
02:04:29,790 --> 02:04:33,420
restrictions that Apple has no
control over right? Regard to

2182
02:04:33,420 --> 02:04:36,720
apps that are a phone with
regard to various other

2183
02:04:36,720 --> 02:04:41,400
communications features that the
consumer may have chosen to put

2184
02:04:41,400 --> 02:04:43,950
on there. Is that correct?
That's absolutely right.

2185
02:04:43,950 --> 02:04:47,400
Mr. Chairman, one of the most
pernicious apps or niches we see

2186
02:04:47,400 --> 02:04:50,460
in the terrorist space is
something called telegraph.

2187
02:04:50,760 --> 02:04:51,960
And he says telegraph.

2188
02:04:51,990 --> 02:04:55,620
I think it's telegram looking.
Yeah, it's telegram. Yeah, he

2189
02:04:55,620 --> 02:04:57,840
says telegraph. So he doesn't
even have that right.

2190
02:04:58,650 --> 02:05:01,380
Here's their site. Software.
Yeah.

2191
02:05:02,460 --> 02:05:05,280
I mean, void zero is the one
that was all over my ass about

2192
02:05:05,280 --> 02:05:08,910
that, you know, void zero. We
don't know his real name. But he

2193
02:05:08,910 --> 02:05:10,530
says he shows up so set your

2194
02:05:11,670 --> 02:05:14,220
Yeah, he's another one of those
guys they won't hire Oh,

2195
02:05:15,599 --> 02:05:21,749
let me see smokes weed check on
the spectrum check lanky and

2196
02:05:21,749 --> 02:05:26,009
somewhat awkward check, Perfect
for no agenda, perfect for

2197
02:05:26,010 --> 02:05:27,450
any kind of security work. But

2198
02:05:27,450 --> 02:05:30,780
this I was just listening to
this Sewell guy he's also saying

2199
02:05:31,680 --> 02:05:32,610
a lot of bullcrap. And

2200
02:05:32,610 --> 02:05:35,670
this one says he could find all
kinds of other restrictions that

2201
02:05:35,670 --> 02:05:39,180
Apple has no control over,
right, with regard to apps that

2202
02:05:39,180 --> 02:05:42,870
are on the phone with regard to
various other communications

2203
02:05:42,870 --> 02:05:47,070
features that the consumer may
have chosen to put on there. Is

2204
02:05:47,070 --> 02:05:47,340
that

2205
02:05:47,369 --> 02:05:50,309
correct? That's absolutely
right, Mr. Chairman, one of the

2206
02:05:50,309 --> 02:05:54,239
most pernicious apps that that
we see in the terrorist space,

2207
02:05:54,269 --> 02:05:57,149
terrorist space nice is
something called telegraph.

2208
02:05:57,209 --> 02:06:00,959
Telegraph telegraph is an app
that can reside on any phone. It

2209
02:06:00,959 --> 02:06:02,189
has nothing to do that, of

2210
02:06:02,190 --> 02:06:05,340
course, is crap because they can
block or ban any app they want

2211
02:06:05,340 --> 02:06:07,920
from the app. Oh, yeah. Apple
can in particular. Yeah, they

2212
02:06:07,920 --> 02:06:11,160
can remove it, they can remove
it. So can Google they can

2213
02:06:11,160 --> 02:06:17,460
remove any, any any app they
want. But you can sideload on

2214
02:06:17,460 --> 02:06:18,480
Android with Apple,

2215
02:06:18,480 --> 02:06:21,360
it can be loaded, either over
the internet, or it could be

2216
02:06:21,360 --> 02:06:23,160
loaded outside of the country.
So that's

2217
02:06:23,160 --> 02:06:27,120
a lie. Yeah, well, it's kind of
a lie over the internet. But you

2218
02:06:27,120 --> 02:06:30,510
have total control of what apps
you're allowed to instal on your

2219
02:06:30,510 --> 02:06:31,020
iPhone.

2220
02:06:31,440 --> 02:06:36,030
And this guy be up there and
well saying the wrong name of

2221
02:06:36,030 --> 02:06:37,020
the product. Okay.

2222
02:06:37,500 --> 02:06:40,440
Good. We'll jump ahead and we'll
wrap this up. Because this is

2223
02:06:40,440 --> 02:06:43,800
exactly where we need to be with
this conversation. Well, I'm,

2224
02:06:43,890 --> 02:06:46,950
I'm now three and a half hours
into this. I'm getting pissed.

2225
02:06:47,220 --> 02:06:49,380
But he's all I'm hearing is Why
are you getting pissed because

2226
02:06:49,380 --> 02:06:54,600
these moronic congressmen and
women. They just want to get an

2227
02:06:54,600 --> 02:06:57,720
education on something that they
don't comprehend from people who

2228
02:06:57,720 --> 02:07:01,380
don't explain it. It was a
complete circle jerk of

2229
02:07:01,380 --> 02:07:06,840
bullcrap. Really, yeah. Oh,
yeah. So Sensenbrenner, who's

2230
02:07:06,840 --> 02:07:13,560
his old coot? What's his
Sensenbrenner? I think what are

2231
02:07:13,560 --> 02:07:14,100
you from?

2232
02:07:14,970 --> 02:07:16,020
Oh, I'll look it up.

2233
02:07:16,560 --> 02:07:21,090
Right. Well, we scored on the
telegraph versus telegram. But

2234
02:07:21,090 --> 02:07:23,700
that's the level of
sophistication Apple sends to

2235
02:07:23,700 --> 02:07:27,210
the United States Congress were
their conversation what is going

2236
02:07:27,210 --> 02:07:29,730
on? But I can tell you what's
going on as I continue to stall

2237
02:07:29,730 --> 02:07:32,190
a bit longer to see if you come
up with send some runners name

2238
02:07:32,190 --> 02:07:33,390
and district and state

2239
02:07:33,750 --> 02:07:39,210
is Jim Sensenbrenner is a member
of the Republican Party A is

2240
02:07:39,210 --> 02:07:44,400
representing Wisconsin's fifth
anatomy really feel that time at

2241
02:07:44,400 --> 02:07:50,550
work perfectly good work. Okay,
this is what nice Republican

2242
02:07:50,550 --> 02:07:53,550
blowhard I've seen him before. I
don't like this guy. Well,

2243
02:07:53,580 --> 02:07:58,230
he nailed it on this one. And
this segment and the final one

2244
02:07:58,230 --> 02:08:03,420
is 30 seconds. showed me that
this is a delay tactic. This is

2245
02:08:03,420 --> 02:08:07,200
setup to delay. That is my well
I'll give you my belief after

2246
02:08:07,200 --> 02:08:08,460
these two clips. By the

2247
02:08:08,460 --> 02:08:12,720
way to say you have this thing
open. His net worth is $21

2248
02:08:12,720 --> 02:08:13,500
million.

2249
02:08:14,250 --> 02:08:17,250
Yeah, well, yeah. What are you
eating? Oh, I'm sorry. A

2250
02:08:17,250 --> 02:08:17,850
lozenge?

2251
02:08:18,809 --> 02:08:22,199
What kind of cherry you know, I
don't like to cough?

2252
02:08:22,260 --> 02:08:24,270
Is it a cherry flavour? No, it's

2253
02:08:24,270 --> 02:08:29,190
actually a the original flavour.
Was that thing? Sue? Correct.

2254
02:08:29,640 --> 02:08:30,240
No, no,

2255
02:08:30,300 --> 02:08:32,070
I'm Sue Kretzmann. I love
secrets.

2256
02:08:32,100 --> 02:08:35,190
It's noise. I can't remember the
name through the little Paco.

2257
02:08:35,190 --> 02:08:38,370
Here it is. It's like a NOR is
your what sales of this stuff?

2258
02:08:38,370 --> 02:08:41,010
It's like it comes in little
wrapper.

2259
02:08:42,750 --> 02:08:45,120
Ricola Rico? Yeah,

2260
02:08:45,210 --> 02:08:49,110
the original Ricola. The
original. Not that Valerie Cole.

2261
02:08:49,110 --> 02:08:51,630
And you know, the other ones is
the original original in the

2262
02:08:51,630 --> 02:08:54,270
yellow package. Fantastic
product.

2263
02:08:58,350 --> 02:09:03,600
Onward. This is a delay tactic.
But as you'll hear what is going

2264
02:09:03,600 --> 02:09:07,050
on? Because Sensenbrenner
finally asked the appropriate

2265
02:09:07,050 --> 02:09:07,560
question,

2266
02:09:07,590 --> 02:09:10,740
we wouldn't be forced to do the
very thing which we think is an

2267
02:09:10,740 --> 02:09:13,230
issue and shouldn't be decided
by the American people we'd be

2268
02:09:13,230 --> 02:09:14,040
forced to create.

2269
02:09:14,490 --> 02:09:17,040
Now, what's your proposed
legislative response? Do you

2270
02:09:17,040 --> 02:09:18,690
have a bill for us to consider?

2271
02:09:18,750 --> 02:09:19,950
I do not have a bill for you to

2272
02:09:19,950 --> 02:09:24,780
Okay. Thank you that answers
that. Now, the FBI has provided

2273
02:09:24,780 --> 02:09:28,800
some fairly specific policy
proposals to ensure that law

2274
02:09:28,800 --> 02:09:33,600
enforcement can access encrypted
data with a warm what policy

2275
02:09:33,600 --> 02:09:37,440
proposal? Would Apple support?
You don't like what the FBI

2276
02:09:37,440 --> 02:09:39,570
said? What's your specific
response?

2277
02:09:39,990 --> 02:09:43,200
What we're asking for Congress,
Congressman, is a debate on

2278
02:09:43,200 --> 02:09:46,560
this. I don't have a proposal. I
don't have a solution for it.

2279
02:09:46,770 --> 02:09:50,520
But what I think we need to do
is to give this an appropriate

2280
02:09:50,520 --> 02:09:54,180
and fair hearing at this body
which exists to convene and

2281
02:09:54,180 --> 02:09:58,020
deliberate and decide issues of
legislative importance. We think

2282
02:09:58,020 --> 02:10:02,010
that the problem here is We need
to get the right stakeholders in

2283
02:10:02,010 --> 02:10:06,090
the room. This is not a security
versus privacy issue. This is a

2284
02:10:06,090 --> 02:10:09,150
security versus security issue.
And that balance should be

2285
02:10:09,150 --> 02:10:10,650
struck, we think by the
Congress.

2286
02:10:11,370 --> 02:10:15,270
Well, you know, let me make this
observation, you know, having

2287
02:10:15,630 --> 02:10:19,170
dealt with the fallout of the
Snowden revelations in the

2288
02:10:19,740 --> 02:10:24,360
drafting and garnering support
of USA Freedom Act, I can tell

2289
02:10:24,360 --> 02:10:27,360
you, I don't think you're gonna
like what comes out of Congress.

2290
02:10:29,130 --> 02:10:32,490
Congress, we will follow the law
that comes out of this process.

2291
02:10:32,490 --> 02:10:33,780
We certainly understand.

2292
02:10:33,870 --> 02:10:38,460
Okay. Okay. Well, the thing is,
is I don't understand you don't

2293
02:10:38,460 --> 02:10:42,360
like what's being done with a
lawfully issued warrant? you're

2294
02:10:42,360 --> 02:10:45,750
operating in a vacuum. You've
told us what you don't like you

2295
02:10:45,750 --> 02:10:50,070
said that Congress ought to
debate and pass legislation. You

2296
02:10:50,070 --> 02:10:53,670
haven't told us one thing about
what you do, like, when are we

2297
02:10:53,670 --> 02:10:58,050
going to hear what you do like
so that Apple has a positive

2298
02:10:58,050 --> 02:11:03,120
solution to what you are
complaining about? You said it's

2299
02:11:03,120 --> 02:11:06,540
Congress's job to do it. Now. We
won't shirk from that this

2300
02:11:06,540 --> 02:11:10,560
hearing. You know, as a part of
this debate, the FBI has

2301
02:11:10,560 --> 02:11:16,530
provided some policy suggestions
on that. You haven't said what

2302
02:11:17,010 --> 02:11:21,180
Apple will support. So all
you've been doing is saying no,

2303
02:11:21,210 --> 02:11:22,650
no, no, no.

2304
02:11:23,730 --> 02:11:28,560
That's correct. So they are
they're just wasting Congress's

2305
02:11:28,560 --> 02:11:29,250
time.

2306
02:11:29,580 --> 02:11:32,880
I think Sensenbrenner is right
on the money. Yeah. And then the

2307
02:11:32,880 --> 02:11:35,520
thing that caught me about what
he said, so I've changed my

2308
02:11:35,520 --> 02:11:38,880
attitude toward him. Instantly.
What you're allowed, you're

2309
02:11:38,880 --> 02:11:40,920
allowed or you got me portion,

2310
02:11:40,950 --> 02:11:44,940
kind of which I think is
overlooked here. Right off the

2311
02:11:44,940 --> 02:11:48,450
bat. He asked, Do you have a
bill? Yeah. Or anything? Have

2312
02:11:48,450 --> 02:11:50,550
you written anything that we can
like him? You know,

2313
02:11:51,090 --> 02:11:54,630
and let us let us be let his
level here, John. The only

2314
02:11:54,630 --> 02:11:57,420
reason anyone's ever in
Washington is to lobby for a

2315
02:11:57,420 --> 02:12:02,460
bill. Yes. You've got like
people up there ready to listen

2316
02:12:02,460 --> 02:12:03,240
to you. You're in

2317
02:12:03,240 --> 02:12:06,540
the thing you got to get in the
catbird. Seat. He asked him Do

2318
02:12:06,540 --> 02:12:10,380
you have a bill for us? For us
to consider maybe work on

2319
02:12:10,470 --> 02:12:12,840
because this would because
you're the ones that have the

2320
02:12:12,840 --> 02:12:16,890
problem? Give us a bill we'll
look at and see what's going on.

2321
02:12:17,310 --> 02:12:19,350
Because that's what you're
always here to promote? They got

2322
02:12:19,350 --> 02:12:23,700
nothing. Nothing. He wants to
debate. He wants a discussion.

2323
02:12:23,820 --> 02:12:28,500
Let's conversations and incident
night. Yeah. The Anders the bill

2324
02:12:28,500 --> 02:12:29,760
apple. So this

2325
02:12:29,760 --> 02:12:35,610
is in my opinion, this is a this
is a delay tactic. Well, it can

2326
02:12:35,610 --> 02:12:40,110
be one of two things, either a
apple who are of course, well

2327
02:12:40,110 --> 02:12:43,500
known to be years ahead with
their product line. They have

2328
02:12:43,500 --> 02:12:47,730
the warrant free evidence free
zone device ready to go and they

2329
02:12:47,730 --> 02:12:52,530
are worried about the launching
and what implications that could

2330
02:12:52,530 --> 02:12:55,200
be because that will be their
marketing is this is the warrant

2331
02:12:55,200 --> 02:12:58,950
free evidence free warrant proof
evidence free zone phone, oh,

2332
02:12:58,980 --> 02:13:10,080
evidence free zone phone by M? M
regular Kanye? Or, or they want

2333
02:13:10,080 --> 02:13:13,920
to delay this as long as
possible until they actually do

2334
02:13:13,920 --> 02:13:19,830
launch the phone. That all
depends on maybe, but they this

2335
02:13:19,830 --> 02:13:22,860
is just this. This is running
around in circles. No one wants

2336
02:13:22,860 --> 02:13:24,300
anything. But what do you really
want

2337
02:13:24,300 --> 02:13:28,470
it to do a job on this? It from
a marketing perspective? I'd say

2338
02:13:28,470 --> 02:13:33,780
this. Do you know the way they
should do this? You got the

2339
02:13:33,780 --> 02:13:36,840
evidence free phones, the iPhone
seven iPhone eight, we don't

2340
02:13:36,840 --> 02:13:39,360
know. But you're right. They're
out and they're already out

2341
02:13:39,360 --> 02:13:43,380
about a year or two. And they
take this they say okay, well

2342
02:13:43,380 --> 02:13:47,220
here's how you can crack the
five. This is not good. We don't

2343
02:13:47,220 --> 02:13:51,600
know what to do. We've got the
five is now it takes the five

2344
02:13:51,600 --> 02:13:54,990
off this is the five is
crackable. We can't continue

2345
02:13:54,990 --> 02:13:58,500
like this we'll have default the
iPhone seven is not possible to

2346
02:13:58,500 --> 02:14:01,140
get into it under any
circumstances. Right? Right. And

2347
02:14:01,170 --> 02:14:04,230
that would be a whole marketing
scheme. Starting with the five

2348
02:14:04,230 --> 02:14:07,380
cracking the five they should
cooperate. Crack the five and

2349
02:14:07,380 --> 02:14:11,880
say, This is the problem. Don't
buy a five. Sell your fives get

2350
02:14:11,880 --> 02:14:13,170
out of the fives get

2351
02:14:13,740 --> 02:14:17,940
upgrade skipped. Got to get a
seven man I'm talking a quarter

2352
02:14:17,940 --> 02:14:21,750
like you've never seen before.
That would be dynamite. They

2353
02:14:21,750 --> 02:14:23,310
would kill the whole market.

2354
02:14:23,820 --> 02:14:27,360
Yeah. Because you can't trust
any other phone. But that

2355
02:14:27,360 --> 02:14:31,830
doesn't seem to be what they're
doing. Well, they lost their

2356
02:14:31,830 --> 02:14:34,320
touch. Well, this seems to be
like a marketing opportunity.

2357
02:14:34,320 --> 02:14:34,680
This is

2358
02:14:34,680 --> 02:14:38,220
my problem. This guy who doesn't
even know the difference between

2359
02:14:38,220 --> 02:14:43,170
telegraph and telegram so he's
not reading properly and even no

2360
02:14:43,170 --> 02:14:47,580
matter what he calls it that's a
well known compromised app. But

2361
02:14:47,580 --> 02:14:52,410
he was we even know it. You know
that that's like, oh, you in

2362
02:14:52,410 --> 02:14:57,540
cahoots with everybody but a law
enforcement call me said two

2363
02:14:57,540 --> 02:15:02,160
things he said we bought We
cannot have something that

2364
02:15:02,400 --> 02:15:07,470
pretty much violates our
constitutional requirement to go

2365
02:15:07,470 --> 02:15:10,440
and find documents when we have
a warrant or proper order from

2366
02:15:10,440 --> 02:15:15,060
the court. But he also said,
Hey, American people, what do

2367
02:15:15,060 --> 02:15:18,510
you want it to be? Do you want
to be, you know, have your Do

2368
02:15:18,510 --> 02:15:20,370
you want to trust your
government to open up your phone

2369
02:15:20,370 --> 02:15:22,470
when necessary when you know,
when you've been killed, and

2370
02:15:22,470 --> 02:15:25,080
everyone wants to know who shot
you? Or when your kid is

2371
02:15:25,080 --> 02:15:28,920
missing? And you know, maybe can
find some location data? Nothing

2372
02:15:28,920 --> 02:15:32,130
about terrorism that he said? Or
do you want to know your

2373
02:15:32,130 --> 02:15:38,010
warrant? Proof evidence free
zone phone? Now, he's there to

2374
02:15:38,010 --> 02:15:40,500
promote the fact that you don't
want that because think of the

2375
02:15:40,500 --> 02:15:44,550
children. But Apple, on the
other hand, just seems to just

2376
02:15:44,550 --> 02:15:48,210
be I mean, Sue will, but he's a
cheaper guy than the Olsen guy.

2377
02:15:48,780 --> 02:15:52,230
But I think that just you know,
you go, you go just run around

2378
02:15:52,230 --> 02:15:54,330
for a bit and don't answer
anything, just start a

2379
02:15:54,330 --> 02:15:55,110
conversation.

2380
02:15:57,330 --> 02:15:59,040
No, I'm saying, well, it's just

2381
02:15:59,190 --> 02:16:02,280
anyway, so they wore him down,
the guy got tired, the lawyer,

2382
02:16:02,700 --> 02:16:07,860
then we finally got to the
bottom of the Defence they will

2383
02:16:07,860 --> 02:16:13,710
be using against any type of
law, court order, etc. And it's

2384
02:16:13,740 --> 02:16:18,870
it's two amendments. Do you want
a gander? I guess, which two

2385
02:16:18,870 --> 02:16:21,780
amendments are at play here,
according to the Apple defence,

2386
02:16:22,350 --> 02:16:24,000
I wouldn't have a clue.

2387
02:16:24,059 --> 02:16:26,699
And bear in mind that what we're
being asked to do is to write a

2388
02:16:26,699 --> 02:16:31,559
brand new computer code, write a
new operating system, the law

2389
02:16:31,589 --> 02:16:34,409
with respect to the
applicability of computer code

2390
02:16:34,409 --> 02:16:37,889
to speech, I think is well
established. So this is a

2391
02:16:37,919 --> 02:16:40,649
compelled speech by the
government, for the purpose of

2392
02:16:40,649 --> 02:16:42,389
the government has a First
Amendment problem, which is

2393
02:16:42,389 --> 02:16:44,339
absolutely First Amendment
problem and bear in mind that

2394
02:16:44,339 --> 02:16:47,249
this speech, which Apple does
not want to make, this is our

2395
02:16:47,249 --> 02:16:48,269
position on.

2396
02:16:50,010 --> 02:16:52,350
I like that. It's funny. Yeah,

2397
02:16:52,380 --> 02:16:55,620
we don't want to make that
speech. Well, it's interesting,

2398
02:16:55,650 --> 02:17:00,690
why is a computer code patented
and not copyrighted, then if

2399
02:17:00,690 --> 02:17:02,670
it's speech, can you patent
speech? Should

2400
02:17:02,699 --> 02:17:06,509
I know why it used to be
copyrighted? And then somebody

2401
02:17:06,509 --> 02:17:10,619
said, I remember in the days in
the eight eras, 70s and early

2402
02:17:10,619 --> 02:17:13,529
80s, when everyone said, you
know, Pat, you can't patent

2403
02:17:14,819 --> 02:17:19,199
software, you can copyright it.
And copywriting is fine. But

2404
02:17:19,229 --> 02:17:22,949
people discovered that because
of the nature of a patent, that

2405
02:17:22,979 --> 02:17:25,589
they kept trying to get a
patent. And when that one guy

2406
02:17:25,589 --> 02:17:27,839
that worked in the Clinton
administration, who I actually

2407
02:17:27,869 --> 02:17:32,219
heard debate, I think he was
debating Larry Lessig, or some I

2408
02:17:32,669 --> 02:17:34,679
don't remember was the
Commonwealth Club. I happen to

2409
02:17:34,679 --> 02:17:40,109
be the moderator. But this guy,
this maniac that took over the

2410
02:17:40,109 --> 02:17:43,709
patent office said, Yes, fine.
patent it. And so it started

2411
02:17:43,709 --> 02:17:47,789
this software patent revolution,
and it has ruined the country.

2412
02:17:48,119 --> 02:17:52,199
And this guy was such a maniac.
I asked him specifically myself.

2413
02:17:52,589 --> 02:17:53,459
I said,

2414
02:17:53,460 --> 02:17:57,360
Why did you do that, bro? Sorry.
You said, Hey, bro stuff. Why

2415
02:17:57,360 --> 02:17:58,140
did you do that?

2416
02:17:58,979 --> 02:18:02,069
I know, I asked him, of course,
I said, the way he sees

2417
02:18:02,069 --> 02:18:05,399
copyright. I said, Is it
possible or patents? I said, Is

2418
02:18:05,399 --> 02:18:10,529
it possible to patent a football
play? Oh, yeah. Which I thought

2419
02:18:10,529 --> 02:18:13,109
was a good question. He says,
Well, the patents have to have

2420
02:18:13,109 --> 02:18:17,939
some technological basis. And so
they followed up with what if it

2421
02:18:17,939 --> 02:18:23,729
was a play based on timing?
Yeah. He says, Yeah, timing.

2422
02:18:23,760 --> 02:18:25,740
Yeah, it's patentable. Great.

2423
02:18:26,040 --> 02:18:30,090
I said, what that was that as
far as I was concerned, this guy

2424
02:18:30,090 --> 02:18:30,840
was nuts.

2425
02:18:31,380 --> 02:18:34,890
The wishbone formation now
trademarked by John C. Dvorak,

2426
02:18:34,890 --> 02:18:37,770
patented, patented patent you
can run it no one else can run

2427
02:18:37,770 --> 02:18:40,920
the play no wishbone for you. He
can sue them. That's my one.

2428
02:18:40,950 --> 02:18:43,260
It's a one play. I know, the
wishbone formation, the

2429
02:18:43,260 --> 02:18:43,800
wishbone.

2430
02:18:44,460 --> 02:18:48,690
From the 60s. I'm impressed by
knowledge of football. Yeah,

2431
02:18:48,720 --> 02:18:52,440
very modern. They're pulling a
wishbone everybody pulling your

2432
02:18:52,440 --> 02:18:58,620
wishbone means something else
okay. Although

2433
02:19:01,620 --> 02:19:05,580
a just want to write that down
for myself. Then the final

2434
02:19:05,580 --> 02:19:09,120
amendment. These are these are
their defences. This is what

2435
02:19:09,120 --> 02:19:11,100
they will take to the Supreme
Court if necessary, but they

2436
02:19:11,100 --> 02:19:13,500
don't want that they want big
grandstanding and marketing in

2437
02:19:13,500 --> 02:19:14,460
Congress speech

2438
02:19:14,490 --> 02:19:16,590
by the government for the
purpose of the government has a

2439
02:19:16,590 --> 02:19:18,660
First Amendment problem which is
absolutely First Amendment

2440
02:19:18,660 --> 02:19:20,820
problem and bear in mind that
this is speech which Apple does

2441
02:19:20,820 --> 02:19:23,970
not want to make. This is our
position. On the Fifth

2442
02:19:23,970 --> 02:19:26,430
Amendment. The issue is
conscription. The issue is

2443
02:19:26,430 --> 02:19:30,450
forced. Forced activity forced
labour. There you go.

2444
02:19:31,980 --> 02:19:35,040
conscription, force activity,
forced labour

2445
02:19:35,430 --> 02:19:39,690
force, though it is forced
labour. But this is not to the

2446
02:19:39,690 --> 02:19:40,260
arguments,

2447
02:19:40,289 --> 02:19:43,739
but they wouldn't do that under
the Fifth Amendment. Because

2448
02:19:43,739 --> 02:19:46,259
there's lots of people who are
first second or first I mean,

2449
02:19:46,259 --> 02:19:50,819
there's, there's cases where you
know, tonnes of judges have

2450
02:19:50,819 --> 02:19:54,899
ordered people to give up
information, forcing them to

2451
02:19:54,899 --> 02:19:59,039
scale talk God via visit making
no talk. You bring back

2452
02:19:59,039 --> 02:20:02,039
waterboarding, are you We'll
find out. I'm sorry, there's my

2453
02:20:02,069 --> 02:20:02,909
Trump impression.

2454
02:20:03,929 --> 02:20:05,489
Boy, that's bad. I know.

2455
02:20:06,210 --> 02:20:09,420
Do you want to take a break now?
I'll take any feedback on my

2456
02:20:09,420 --> 02:20:11,220
little, my little segment there,
my little panel.

2457
02:20:11,220 --> 02:20:15,150
That was a great segment and we
learned a lot. Just like I said

2458
02:20:15,150 --> 02:20:18,270
in the newsletter, yeah, there
was no big huge bomb. It was a

2459
02:20:18,270 --> 02:20:19,410
bomb. There was a bomb.

2460
02:20:22,650 --> 02:20:26,070
I'm gonna show my school by
Jonah did no agenda. Imagine all

2461
02:20:26,070 --> 02:20:28,620
the people who could do that?
Oh, yeah, that'd be fun

2462
02:20:35,520 --> 02:20:40,620
for you do anything, John. Go to
evidence free zone.com Did you

2463
02:20:40,620 --> 02:20:44,520
get it? Someone in the chat
room? Got it for us.

2464
02:20:44,640 --> 02:20:47,640
They grabbed it. Good. Yeah.
Thanks to the no agenda show.

2465
02:20:47,670 --> 02:20:56,970
Of course it does. That is why
we are Joan Jett, John. There

2466
02:20:56,970 --> 02:20:58,320
you go. Thank you very much.
Thank

2467
02:20:58,320 --> 02:21:01,110
you a few people for show 804
Just starting with John

2468
02:21:01,110 --> 02:21:06,750
Robinette or Roman $100 Parts
Unknown lon Baker. Same thing.

2469
02:21:06,750 --> 02:21:10,650
We don't know where you're from
$100 or $200 donors also then

2470
02:21:10,650 --> 02:21:15,990
followed by George over Hofer in
Jackson, New Jersey. 9621.

2471
02:21:15,990 --> 02:21:20,490
There's a birthday coming up and
one of his is one of his.

2472
02:21:21,390 --> 02:21:24,360
Somebody I don't have the note
in front of me. Yeah, I think I

2473
02:21:24,360 --> 02:21:28,770
got so Alison, New Berlin,
Wisconsin. That's the name we

2474
02:21:28,770 --> 02:21:36,420
got. It's also had a birthday
involved in 8384. Mark F. DeWitt

2475
02:21:36,420 --> 02:21:39,300
in in Soddy. Daisy, Tennessee.

2476
02:21:40,770 --> 02:21:44,580
The Allison thing let me just
see. That was it's important to

2477
02:21:44,580 --> 02:21:53,190
stop and note this. That is from
Ed's his John's wife. And Alison

2478
02:21:53,190 --> 02:21:59,730
says Happy 32nd Birthday
darling. And he loves the BP ITU

2479
02:21:59,730 --> 02:22:03,720
and he hopes the birthday
donation makes him smile. So oh,

2480
02:22:03,840 --> 02:22:06,240
that's that's sweet. That's
really large.

2481
02:22:06,240 --> 02:22:11,760
Yes, the wit and Soddy Daisy
over should have a meet up. 6620

2482
02:22:11,760 --> 02:22:16,170
says be funny if you go there
just as the Soddy Daisy, Daisy.

2483
02:22:16,530 --> 02:22:18,780
They need some karma because
they had to put their terrier.

2484
02:22:19,620 --> 02:22:25,050
Terry special incident karma.
You've got karma. I know how you

2485
02:22:25,050 --> 02:22:25,800
feel about dogs

2486
02:22:25,800 --> 02:22:29,040
jaw dropping down to Shawn
Fincham and Modesto have double

2487
02:22:29,040 --> 02:22:32,700
nickels on the dime. Patrick
Perkins in Holland Michigan

2488
02:22:32,700 --> 02:22:36,090
double nickels on the dime a
birthday there to his wife,

2489
02:22:36,720 --> 02:22:41,190
Oscar Kroger. I believe the
second one of you might be able

2490
02:22:41,190 --> 02:22:42,120
to pronounce that better.

2491
02:22:42,150 --> 02:22:43,830
Quiroga. Quiroga

2492
02:22:44,520 --> 02:22:49,860
I guess. Maybe, Texas Porter
Texas double nickels on the dime

2493
02:22:49,890 --> 02:22:54,720
anonymous from Detroit,
Michigan. 55. Eric Hoko in

2494
02:22:56,460 --> 02:23:01,890
Berlin Deutschland $52 Barry
Coggins, Parts Unknown $50.27

2495
02:23:01,890 --> 02:23:06,270
The following people are all $50
donors. And starting with Ross

2496
02:23:06,300 --> 02:23:12,840
Turpin. In Trey, Kansas, Troy.
Troy, I'm sorry, Troy, Kansas.

2497
02:23:13,200 --> 02:23:18,960
Turpin of Troy Turpin of Troy.
Michael would offend it with

2498
02:23:18,990 --> 02:23:22,500
wolfenden who will send it in
York, Pennsylvania, Justin

2499
02:23:22,500 --> 02:23:26,820
Barber in Los Angeles,
California. Sir Tony the Jedi

2500
02:23:26,820 --> 02:23:31,110
Knight of the coders in Downers
Grove, Illinois. Shane Ross

2501
02:23:31,110 --> 02:23:36,750
Bilski a regular from Saskatoon,
Saskatchewan, Canada, Dustin s.

2502
02:23:36,750 --> 02:23:43,650
Martin in Salem, Oregon. Jared
Leibert Soos in Chicago, and

2503
02:23:43,650 --> 02:23:44,520
that's it. We're done.

2504
02:23:45,750 --> 02:23:48,720
Oh, my short, very short,

2505
02:23:48,750 --> 02:23:52,830
very disappointing. But it
happened but maybe I shouldn't

2506
02:23:52,830 --> 02:23:55,410
have done the apple thing so
long. It should have been

2507
02:23:55,410 --> 02:24:01,200
shorter. You could have gone
long on the Apple roof. Now we

2508
02:24:01,200 --> 02:24:03,540
do have some other teams as you
did.

2509
02:24:05,730 --> 02:24:09,360
As karma for everybody. I'm sure
you need it. You've got car man.

2510
02:24:09,360 --> 02:24:11,730
Remember we do have a show
coming up on Sunday. We need all

2511
02:24:11,730 --> 02:24:24,990
the help we can get
clearly.org/n A and for today,

2512
02:24:24,990 --> 02:24:28,770
we welcome a brand new human
resource Aubrey Sofia Hall born

2513
02:24:28,770 --> 02:24:34,830
on February 27 at 730 in the am
she has two brothers seamless

2514
02:24:34,830 --> 02:24:38,490
and Jonah loving light from
Jared Hall and Mama Kin

2515
02:24:38,490 --> 02:24:42,840
congratulations and welcome.
Recipe Hall. George oven power

2516
02:24:43,920 --> 02:24:47,820
over home. My glasses are really
bad no George overhaul versus

2517
02:24:47,820 --> 02:24:51,780
Happy Birthday Kevin McCarthy
turns 32 I turned 32 on March 1

2518
02:24:51,780 --> 02:24:55,590
J che Happy Birthday to Aaron
Yoko of North Central West

2519
02:24:55,590 --> 02:24:59,490
Virginia who's now an old fuck.
Allison as we read earlier than

2520
02:24:59,490 --> 02:25:02,580
Happy Birthday her husband John
32. On the third shore, Edward

2521
02:25:02,580 --> 02:25:05,160
of Bridgewater also celebrating
today Jeff Anderson Happy

2522
02:25:05,160 --> 02:25:09,690
Birthday to his son Dame 31st on
tomorrow. Patrick Perkins says

2523
02:25:09,690 --> 02:25:12,330
Happy Birthday to a smokin hot
wife, Joanie Perkins. She'll be

2524
02:25:12,330 --> 02:25:17,820
48 on March 5, and Agent Orange,
big friend of the show, he turns

2525
02:25:17,820 --> 02:25:20,220
40 Today happy birthday from all
your buddies here at the best

2526
02:25:20,220 --> 02:25:21,210
podcast in the

2527
02:25:21,210 --> 02:25:22,290
universe.

2528
02:25:24,660 --> 02:25:27,810
I could not find the right focal
length to read that sucks. I'm

2529
02:25:27,810 --> 02:25:35,850
sorry. And we have a title
change today. Dame Francine, the

2530
02:25:35,880 --> 02:25:38,820
big longtime supporter of the
podcast and becomes a bearer

2531
02:25:38,820 --> 02:25:44,070
nests. Although she she said on
the face Maggie was she said on

2532
02:25:44,070 --> 02:25:49,800
the face bag. She wanted to be a
baron. Was fun because he would

2533
02:25:49,800 --> 02:25:51,480
do that you see all the other
face baggers trying to

2534
02:25:51,480 --> 02:25:53,550
understand what what the hell
she's talking about. No one

2535
02:25:53,550 --> 02:25:55,140
understands except for the no
agenda people.

2536
02:25:56,490 --> 02:25:59,700
Face beggars. So we are using
our Xander Joe. Yes,

2537
02:25:59,760 --> 02:26:04,080
yes. I remember to Insightly
that meeting. We had a meeting

2538
02:26:04,080 --> 02:26:07,140
and said, let's call them face
baggers. That's funnier.

2539
02:26:07,140 --> 02:26:07,950
Yes. Perfect.

2540
02:26:08,040 --> 02:26:13,830
As good. Good work. Um, well, I
just I got stuff. But I just did

2541
02:26:13,830 --> 02:26:15,480
a long segment. So but like,

2542
02:26:15,510 --> 02:26:19,800
well, let's go with this talk
about this. The crisis is

2543
02:26:19,800 --> 02:26:22,050
continuing. Of course, in the
EU. You wonder what you

2544
02:26:22,050 --> 02:26:25,530
mean by this, but that?

2545
02:26:26,040 --> 02:26:29,430
Yes. Let's listen to what
Samantha Powers has to say about

2546
02:26:29,430 --> 02:26:32,730
this question that she got from
Judy Woodruff on the News Hour

2547
02:26:32,759 --> 02:26:35,549
from the Middle East. We've been
telling their story day after

2548
02:26:35,549 --> 02:26:39,149
day. As you know, the top US
General at NATO. Philip general

2549
02:26:39,149 --> 02:26:42,359
Philip Breedlove said the other
day, that he believes that ISIS

2550
02:26:42,359 --> 02:26:45,569
is now spreading in his words
like a cancer among these

2551
02:26:45,569 --> 02:26:49,319
refugees. Is that your
understanding of what's going on

2552
02:26:49,319 --> 02:26:50,879
now? Well,

2553
02:26:50,880 --> 02:26:57,420
I mean, I think, certainly we
have seen, you know, ISIS in

2554
02:26:57,480 --> 02:27:00,690
turning up in European cities. I
mean, we've seen the Paris

2555
02:27:00,690 --> 02:27:04,050
attacks. There's a lot of
homegrown extremism, people who

2556
02:27:04,050 --> 02:27:07,470
are first generation who have
been born in European countries

2557
02:27:07,470 --> 02:27:10,500
who have taken to extremism, I
think what's important is that

2558
02:27:10,500 --> 02:27:14,220
the systems that we have to
process people, most of whom the

2559
02:27:14,220 --> 02:27:17,160
vast, vast, vast majority of
whom are just in desperate need

2560
02:27:17,340 --> 02:27:21,330
of refuge, that the systems we
have are sufficient to actually

2561
02:27:21,330 --> 02:27:24,630
being able be able to run
fingerprint checks, you know,

2562
02:27:24,720 --> 02:27:26,820
look into backgrounds and so
forth. And that's the great

2563
02:27:26,820 --> 02:27:29,790
disadvantage of this flood is
it's been much harder for Europe

2564
02:27:29,790 --> 02:27:32,520
to manage them, for instance,
our programme, we're we're able

2565
02:27:32,520 --> 02:27:36,780
to actually deliberate over
these refugee files for 1818

2566
02:27:36,780 --> 02:27:38,220
months to make sure we get it
right.

2567
02:27:39,150 --> 02:27:42,990
Man who gives a crap these
people are being are dying,

2568
02:27:43,320 --> 02:27:47,400
vast, vast, vast, she says, Can
I do a little insert a little

2569
02:27:47,400 --> 02:27:53,400
clip here? Yes. This is from the
EU Council President Donald Tusk

2570
02:27:53,820 --> 02:27:58,140
of Poland. He is he's very clear
on where the EU stands on

2571
02:27:58,140 --> 02:27:59,580
migrants European Council

2572
02:27:59,580 --> 02:28:03,510
President Donald Tusk has warns
potential migrants not to risk

2573
02:28:03,510 --> 02:28:06,660
coming to Europe. Speaking after
talks with the Greek Prime

2574
02:28:06,660 --> 02:28:10,860
Minister Alexis Tsipras Tusk
said unilateral actions by EU

2575
02:28:10,860 --> 02:28:14,400
member states is hurting
solidarity and must stop

2576
02:28:14,820 --> 02:28:20,100
I wants to appeal to all
potential illegal economic

2577
02:28:20,130 --> 02:28:26,190
migrants wherever you are from
do not come to Europe

2578
02:28:31,530 --> 02:28:32,520
that's Clip of the Day

2579
02:28:32,580 --> 02:28:39,270
oh thank you it's not even over
yet. It's raining just ended

2580
02:28:39,270 --> 02:28:43,560
there wait I mean I get I saw
that

2581
02:28:43,560 --> 02:28:47,160
hold on a second. Do not do not
come to Europe

2582
02:28:48,300 --> 02:28:56,850
wherever you are from do not
come to Europe that's a great

2583
02:28:56,850 --> 02:28:57,540
ISO

2584
02:28:57,840 --> 02:29:02,940
from okay but keep it right
there. That's fabulous. All

2585
02:29:02,940 --> 02:29:03,450
right.

2586
02:29:03,690 --> 02:29:06,660
The only Iso I collected I was
gonna put in the clip blitz but

2587
02:29:06,660 --> 02:29:10,500
I'm gonna give it to you now. Is
the Clinton history books ISO?

2588
02:29:10,560 --> 02:29:11,220
Oh, yeah.

2589
02:29:11,250 --> 02:29:14,130
I saw a picture of this
yesterday was one for the

2590
02:29:14,130 --> 02:29:23,610
history book. Three books. Yeah,
history books. Oh, hello. Put

2591
02:29:23,610 --> 02:29:27,870
that in the montage bucket here.
Oops. And I get the right okay.

2592
02:29:29,100 --> 02:29:30,060
All right. Well, let's go

2593
02:29:30,090 --> 02:29:33,090
let me buy him on. Okay, I have
more I have more short shortened

2594
02:29:33,090 --> 02:29:39,960
funnies. Okay, play him shorten
funnies I migrant Okay, well,

2595
02:29:40,020 --> 02:29:44,400
the Britain and France. So
Britain is talking about the

2596
02:29:44,400 --> 02:29:48,030
Brexit leaving the European
Union and France is very clear

2597
02:29:48,030 --> 02:29:49,710
what will happen if they do that
France has

2598
02:29:49,710 --> 02:29:53,100
warned Britain that it will let
1000s of migrants head to its

2599
02:29:53,100 --> 02:29:55,620
shores if the country opts to
leave the EU.

2600
02:29:55,980 --> 02:29:59,490
Take that you lie me as we're
sending all these stinkers.

2601
02:29:59,490 --> 02:30:00,900
You're away. right through the
channel.

2602
02:30:00,990 --> 02:30:03,510
In an interview with The
Financial Times French economy

2603
02:30:03,510 --> 02:30:07,320
minister Emmanuel Macron said a
Brexit would affect a deal which

2604
02:30:07,320 --> 02:30:10,740
allows Britain to maintain
border controls in France. His

2605
02:30:10,740 --> 02:30:14,190
view echoes recent comments by
British Prime Minister David

2606
02:30:14,190 --> 02:30:17,520
Cameron that a migrant camp in
Cali, known as the jungle could

2607
02:30:17,520 --> 02:30:21,630
move to southern England if
Britain leaves the EU. 1000s of

2608
02:30:21,630 --> 02:30:24,390
migrants fleeing war and poverty
have converged on the French

2609
02:30:24,390 --> 02:30:27,840
port over the past year, bounce
with Cameron meeting French

2610
02:30:27,840 --> 02:30:31,290
President Francois alarmed for
security and migration talks

2611
02:30:31,290 --> 02:30:34,980
today. Opponents of EU
membership say macrons comments

2612
02:30:34,980 --> 02:30:38,550
are part of a carefully
orchestrated campaign to scare

2613
02:30:38,550 --> 02:30:39,540
British voters.

2614
02:30:39,570 --> 02:30:40,530
You

2615
02:30:40,800 --> 02:30:43,800
know what they saying by the way
that I've got a clip for the

2616
02:30:43,800 --> 02:30:46,290
jungle tear down apparently
they're tearing that thing down.

2617
02:30:46,290 --> 02:30:46,830
Yeah,

2618
02:30:46,830 --> 02:30:48,390
there's video of it everywhere.

2619
02:30:48,600 --> 02:30:53,490
But so what the guy is saying is
that if the British leave the

2620
02:30:53,490 --> 02:30:59,520
EU, they're gonna pack a train
full of yes guess cargo cars or

2621
02:30:59,520 --> 02:31:02,790
something, fill them up with
these five or 10,000 of these

2622
02:31:02,790 --> 02:31:03,600
guys, everybody

2623
02:31:03,600 --> 02:31:07,140
on the train everybody on the
train on the train, not

2624
02:31:07,140 --> 02:31:12,690
necessarily good idea coming
from the Europe should be here

2625
02:31:12,690 --> 02:31:16,170
and then before anyone can do
anything, they open up all the

2626
02:31:16,170 --> 02:31:17,460
cargo doors and run.

2627
02:31:19,170 --> 02:31:21,630
The train thing reminds me of
another clip that I picked

2628
02:31:21,630 --> 02:31:24,900
up on the site of former Nazi
concentration camp Dachau,

2629
02:31:25,080 --> 02:31:28,140
outbuildings that used to belong
to the complex herb garden and

2630
02:31:28,140 --> 02:31:30,750
now being used to house
refugees. It's a place of fear

2631
02:31:30,750 --> 02:31:33,120
and death. Children can now be
seen playing in those sites

2632
02:31:33,150 --> 02:31:35,550
where inmates were forced to
spend hours toiling in the cold

2633
02:31:35,550 --> 02:31:35,910
and rain

2634
02:31:35,940 --> 02:31:41,100
everybody on the train to dock
owl. Man is this is that this

2635
02:31:41,100 --> 02:31:43,860
should be a subject of such
outrage.

2636
02:31:44,160 --> 02:31:47,370
It shouldn't be but nobody's
outraged. Outraged by Trump.

2637
02:31:47,460 --> 02:31:50,790
Yeah. There's here's one
Germans. The Germans are worried

2638
02:31:50,790 --> 02:31:53,190
sick about Trump. here's the
here's from the Deutsche Vela.

2639
02:31:53,190 --> 02:31:56,040
This, the Germans are thinking
about Trump. How would

2640
02:31:56,070 --> 02:32:00,390
the German government feel about
seeing Donald Trump as the next

2641
02:32:00,420 --> 02:32:03,990
US President? Well, on a visit
to Washington, Germany's Foreign

2642
02:32:03,990 --> 02:32:07,560
Minister Frank Walter Steinmeier
indirectly criticise the

2643
02:32:07,560 --> 02:32:11,340
Republican front runner stance
on migration, and what he called

2644
02:32:11,460 --> 02:32:16,200
the politics of fear. Trump
himself has taken aim at

2645
02:32:16,200 --> 02:32:19,800
Berlin's policies in his
campaign, leaving many to wonder

2646
02:32:19,800 --> 02:32:23,130
how relations between the two
countries would change if indeed

2647
02:32:23,130 --> 02:32:24,900
he ends up winning.

2648
02:32:25,710 --> 02:32:28,710
Peaceful and in recent years
friendly once again could

2649
02:32:28,710 --> 02:32:32,100
describe the mood between the US
Secretary of State and Germany's

2650
02:32:32,100 --> 02:32:35,310
foreign minister and
transatlantic relations overall.

2651
02:32:35,670 --> 02:32:40,410
But now German policymakers feel
this friendship is at risk. And

2652
02:32:40,410 --> 02:32:45,060
all because of this man, Donald
Trump. It's unlikely he'll ever

2653
02:32:45,060 --> 02:32:49,170
be a close friend of Germany to
him. Crazy country that takes in

2654
02:32:49,170 --> 02:32:49,890
refugees.

2655
02:32:52,620 --> 02:32:55,920
We're not letting the Syrians
come into our country have no

2656
02:32:55,920 --> 02:32:59,640
idea who they were. They could
be ISIS, who look at what's

2657
02:32:59,640 --> 02:33:03,540
happened with Germany. Look at
what's happened to Sweden. Look

2658
02:33:03,540 --> 02:33:07,350
at what's happened to Brussels.
It's not gonna happen to our

2659
02:33:07,350 --> 02:33:07,980
country.

2660
02:33:08,580 --> 02:33:11,700
This shrill tone is worrying
Germany's otherwise sedate

2661
02:33:11,700 --> 02:33:15,270
foreign policymakers. Donald
Trump is US president is

2662
02:33:15,270 --> 02:33:17,490
something that the German
Foreign Minister didn't want to

2663
02:33:17,490 --> 02:33:21,030
directly comment on in
Washington. Instead, he had

2664
02:33:21,030 --> 02:33:25,380
these words to say to a group of
students in Germany and in

2665
02:33:25,380 --> 02:33:27,780
Europe, something is gaining
momentum in our domestic

2666
02:33:27,780 --> 02:33:30,450
politics. And to be honest, I'm
also seeing it here in the

2667
02:33:30,450 --> 02:33:33,810
United States during the primary
campaigns. It's the politics of

2668
02:33:33,810 --> 02:33:37,200
fear. It's dangerous for Europe
in the US, it's bad for the

2669
02:33:37,200 --> 02:33:39,600
world. And in the end, it will
also be bad for our

2670
02:33:39,600 --> 02:33:44,130
transatlantic relations. leading
Democrat candidate Hillary

2671
02:33:44,130 --> 02:33:46,860
Clinton at least has the
advantage of being predictable

2672
02:33:46,950 --> 02:33:49,530
from the foreign ministers point
of view. They've known each

2673
02:33:49,530 --> 02:33:52,830
other since her days as
Secretary of State. The German

2674
02:33:52,830 --> 02:33:55,830
government views Clinton as a
far better choice than Trump

2675
02:33:58,620 --> 02:34:03,360
I'm glad you played that clip
for it what it accentuates that

2676
02:34:03,390 --> 02:34:06,780
all the opposition to the
elitist the people who want the

2677
02:34:06,780 --> 02:34:09,390
multicultural society and
everything to be kumbaya Yeah,

2678
02:34:09,720 --> 02:34:12,720
we're all you know been in a way
we're all we don't see colour

2679
02:34:12,720 --> 02:34:16,710
are all in the grey world
whatever. That yeah, they all

2680
02:34:16,710 --> 02:34:19,980
are accused of the same thing by
the established elite. They're

2681
02:34:19,980 --> 02:34:24,630
Nazis. They're far right.
They're racist. They xenophobes

2682
02:34:24,630 --> 02:34:29,670
bigots, nut jobs, whack jobs,
religious crazies, all the

2683
02:34:29,670 --> 02:34:34,260
things that the established
elite, which is a socialist

2684
02:34:34,290 --> 02:34:38,490
concept of we're all happy no,
you're all grey. I grew up in a

2685
02:34:38,490 --> 02:34:42,420
socialist country you grey
that's why the Russian Bittrex

2686
02:34:42,600 --> 02:34:46,050
the government everything grey,
everything's grey thing.

2687
02:34:46,050 --> 02:34:49,830
That's great. Say that, because
I was doing I got this little

2688
02:34:49,830 --> 02:34:54,150
thing going on on Twitter, where
I do the Forgotten cars. Yeah, I

2689
02:34:54,150 --> 02:34:56,820
liked that a lot. A lot of
people seem to like and so I'm

2690
02:34:56,850 --> 02:34:59,310
continuing it and one of the
things I noticed I will say

2691
02:34:59,310 --> 02:35:01,950
there's even an I say possibly
in this about the grey thing

2692
02:35:01,950 --> 02:35:07,170
which you just said, I'm looking
at these cars and is especially

2693
02:35:07,170 --> 02:35:10,650
in the 1950s. After World War
Two, these cars are colourful

2694
02:35:10,650 --> 02:35:13,740
and is brought to mind because I
did one car that was an old

2695
02:35:13,740 --> 02:35:16,860
Willie's, or a Rio or something.
And it was, it was yellow. It's

2696
02:35:17,250 --> 02:35:23,580
a yellow car crazy. They had two
tone cars, three tone cars that

2697
02:35:23,580 --> 02:35:27,030
were just astonishing looking by
today's standards that were pink

2698
02:35:27,030 --> 02:35:30,000
and black. And all these
different code pink, black and

2699
02:35:30,000 --> 02:35:33,210
white is one of the colour
schemes on a Dodge, roll these

2700
02:35:33,600 --> 02:35:34,140
and then all

2701
02:35:34,140 --> 02:35:37,500
of a sudden red and white on the
Corvette red stripe going

2702
02:35:37,530 --> 02:35:41,910
toward the 80s. And then nine,
the cars all become grey. If I

2703
02:35:41,910 --> 02:35:44,940
look at the freeway, the car and
watch the cars go by there's

2704
02:35:45,330 --> 02:35:48,780
kind of a light beige, white,
white grey.

2705
02:35:49,560 --> 02:35:53,550
These cars also priced lower the
bay, the grey cars with just a

2706
02:35:53,550 --> 02:35:56,700
lower price do incentivize
people to enter their life of

2707
02:35:56,700 --> 02:35:57,570
grilling. I used to

2708
02:35:57,570 --> 02:36:00,960
have these things called
stripped down models. And those

2709
02:36:00,960 --> 02:36:03,330
are always the cheap cars but
No, there wasn't. I mean, you

2710
02:36:03,330 --> 02:36:06,480
could still get a car any colour
you wanted. But there was a huge

2711
02:36:06,480 --> 02:36:07,620
variety as long as it's

2712
02:36:07,620 --> 02:36:11,490
great. Sorry, any car you want,
as long as it's great.

2713
02:36:12,030 --> 02:36:15,420
Well, nowadays I'm looking
there's grey, a grey, white,

2714
02:36:15,420 --> 02:36:19,770
black, black, white. This is the
three colours I see. There's a

2715
02:36:19,770 --> 02:36:23,070
light beige, I'm looking at the
freeway, there's a light beige,

2716
02:36:23,070 --> 02:36:26,970
there's white, there's grey,
there's black car, everyone's

2717
02:36:26,970 --> 02:36:30,030
well white, white, white, grey,
grey grey, and there goes the

2718
02:36:30,030 --> 02:36:33,660
stocks. There's not a I won't I
have not seen a yellow even a

2719
02:36:33,660 --> 02:36:39,810
blue car go by. I mean, the blue
is like Whoa, what a wild car.

2720
02:36:41,130 --> 02:36:45,420
Yeah, well, that seems to be a
reflection of this. Yes, yes. It

2721
02:36:45,420 --> 02:36:47,760
seems to be what people are
trained to do just see

2722
02:36:47,760 --> 02:36:48,810
everything grey.

2723
02:36:48,810 --> 02:36:50,070
Everybody's grey.

2724
02:36:51,810 --> 02:36:55,950
Yeah, well, I like the colours.
I like all the colourful people

2725
02:36:56,040 --> 02:36:58,440
with the invalid. Those are my
favourite.

2726
02:37:00,690 --> 02:37:03,750
Anyway, can I'm still looking
out there for a blue or a red

2727
02:37:03,750 --> 02:37:09,720
car announcing one How about the
Zephyr or yellow? Zephyr? Zephyr

2728
02:37:09,720 --> 02:37:15,270
is long gone. Are you gonna do
clip blitz little short ones.

2729
02:37:15,630 --> 02:37:19,710
Hold on a second you want to do?
Yeah, we can do that. Everybody

2730
02:37:24,330 --> 02:37:26,700
good. All right, John. What's up
clip let's bring up Bill

2731
02:37:26,700 --> 02:37:27,330
O'Reilly

2732
02:37:27,330 --> 02:37:28,350
dragging wife

2733
02:37:28,440 --> 02:37:31,620
Bill O'Reilly dragging wife E I
E I O.

2734
02:37:32,070 --> 02:37:36,870
Fox News host Bill O'Reilly has
lost residential custody of his

2735
02:37:36,870 --> 02:37:40,830
two teenage children following a
lengthy custody battle, during

2736
02:37:40,830 --> 02:37:44,190
which his 17 year old daughter
told a forensic examiner that

2737
02:37:44,190 --> 02:37:47,940
she watched O'Reilly dragging
her mother down a staircase by

2738
02:37:47,940 --> 02:37:51,330
her neck. Although the New York
appeals court ruled O'Reilly's

2739
02:37:51,330 --> 02:37:54,270
two children should live solely
with their mother Maureen MC

2740
02:37:54,270 --> 02:37:58,740
filmi O'Reilly still maintain
shared legal custody over them

2741
02:38:01,500 --> 02:38:04,050
all right, clip Blitz, clip
Blitz, clip Blitz,

2742
02:38:04,200 --> 02:38:05,970
Bill Clinton G.

2743
02:38:07,260 --> 02:38:09,390
We're excited to listen known
beforehand,

2744
02:38:10,290 --> 02:38:20,880
very affected by the fascist
attempt to take over and Spain

2745
02:38:23,460 --> 02:38:28,230
so I bought the army, then I
didn't know how to get to Spain

2746
02:38:28,800 --> 02:38:31,080
Till one day or going to work
and

2747
02:38:32,970 --> 02:38:35,850
what is the I'm sorry, I thought
that was Bill Clinton. That

2748
02:38:35,850 --> 02:38:44,490
wasn't that was an error.
Concord too. And this is a good

2749
02:38:44,490 --> 02:38:44,970
one, John.

2750
02:38:45,179 --> 02:38:49,409
Well, supersonic air travel
could soon be on course for a

2751
02:38:49,409 --> 02:38:52,919
comeback. flying faster than the
speed of sound is something that

2752
02:38:52,919 --> 02:38:57,179
Concorde jet made possible until
it was taken out of service 13

2753
02:38:57,179 --> 02:39:01,739
years ago, but now NASA has
awarded a $20 million contract

2754
02:39:01,769 --> 02:39:06,089
to American defence contractor
Lockheed Martin to develop a new

2755
02:39:06,089 --> 02:39:09,719
supersonic aircraft. The plane
is to have a passenger the plan

2756
02:39:09,719 --> 02:39:12,689
rather is to have a passenger
plane ready for takeoff by the

2757
02:39:12,689 --> 02:39:16,799
year 2020. Will some conditions
have already been set? The

2758
02:39:16,799 --> 02:39:21,389
supersonic plane will have to be
more fuel efficient, and a whole

2759
02:39:21,389 --> 02:39:24,419
lot lighter than the good old
Concorde.

2760
02:39:24,720 --> 02:39:29,880
Mr. B green, green Concorde.
This is where I get to tell my

2761
02:39:29,880 --> 02:39:32,520
Concorde trivia because we never
talked about the Concorde at

2762
02:39:32,520 --> 02:39:36,960
one. The Concorde after crashed
in Germany with a German company

2763
02:39:36,960 --> 02:39:39,990
that had leased it out for a
party bad day, a real day

2764
02:39:39,990 --> 02:39:44,910
wrecker that was did receive a
airworthiness certificate and

2765
02:39:44,910 --> 02:39:48,510
was scheduled to make its maiden
voyage re entering into the

2766
02:39:48,780 --> 02:39:51,000
aviation world on what date?

2767
02:39:52,410 --> 02:39:53,370
September 11.

2768
02:39:55,170 --> 02:40:00,180
You nailed it. That's right.
September 11 2001. You go and I

2769
02:40:00,180 --> 02:40:01,770
flew on the Concorde a couple
times.

2770
02:40:02,130 --> 02:40:05,340
Yeah. Well, I'm going to plan
this next one. Yeah. Anwar, with

2771
02:40:05,340 --> 02:40:15,360
clip blitz route through the
Google car. Yeah, I heard about

2772
02:40:15,360 --> 02:40:15,780
this one.

2773
02:40:16,020 --> 02:40:21,660
Well, meanwhile, Google says one
of its self driving cars has hit

2774
02:40:21,660 --> 02:40:25,200
a bus, the accident in the city
of Mountain View.

2775
02:40:26,310 --> 02:40:29,940
I love that one. There was going
two miles an hour. But still, it

2776
02:40:29,940 --> 02:40:33,750
proves that it made an unwise
decision based upon the science

2777
02:40:33,750 --> 02:40:37,740
and the algorithm, which I just
call skip logic. Yeah, and this

2778
02:40:37,740 --> 02:40:41,100
isn't this is all anti anti
Google self driving car.

2779
02:40:41,850 --> 02:40:43,890
I think so I think this is the
beginning. We're gonna see a

2780
02:40:43,890 --> 02:40:50,610
bunch of this. Here's, here's a
story. Nobody's played up at

2781
02:40:50,610 --> 02:40:55,440
all. And I think it's important.
This is the Iraq update. Damn.

2782
02:40:56,610 --> 02:40:59,850
In Iraq, US officials are
warning the country's largest

2783
02:40:59,850 --> 02:41:02,370
dam is facing a, quote,
unprecedented risk of

2784
02:41:02,370 --> 02:41:06,150
catastrophic failure. The US
Embassy warns if the Mosul Dam

2785
02:41:06,150 --> 02:41:08,910
collapses, hundreds of 1000s of
people would be at risk of

2786
02:41:08,910 --> 02:41:11,610
drowning and more than a million
people would be displaced.

2787
02:41:11,850 --> 02:41:15,840
Meanwhile, a spate of deadly
suicide bombings by ISIL in Iraq

2788
02:41:15,870 --> 02:41:19,140
have killed more than 130 people
over the last few days.

2789
02:41:19,740 --> 02:41:23,910
Now, I've seen this I've seen
this crop up. I've seen this

2790
02:41:23,970 --> 02:41:27,150
destroy and wrap up. Yeah, but I
talked about this on the show a

2791
02:41:27,150 --> 02:41:30,360
while ago that when Mosul Dam
was also in play, oh, if they

2792
02:41:30,360 --> 02:41:33,960
blow that up, then all these
people downstream will die and

2793
02:41:34,380 --> 02:41:36,510
this is bringing this back for
some reason.

2794
02:41:36,570 --> 02:41:43,200
Let me finish clip Blitz. Story
and that is a Bay Area story

2795
02:41:43,230 --> 02:41:46,800
cop. This cop fights prisoners

2796
02:41:46,830 --> 02:41:49,320
formal charges have been filed
against two San Francisco

2797
02:41:49,320 --> 02:41:52,530
sheriff's deputies and a former
deputy. They're all accused of

2798
02:41:52,530 --> 02:41:56,220
forcing jail inmates to fight
each other for entertainment. In

2799
02:41:56,220 --> 02:42:00,420
a gladiator style fight Claude
cage views Henry San Francisco's

2800
02:42:00,420 --> 02:42:03,120
District Attorney detailed the
charges during a news conference

2801
02:42:03,120 --> 02:42:03,480
today

2802
02:42:04,289 --> 02:42:07,649
for the San Francisco District
Attorney George cascone says the

2803
02:42:07,649 --> 02:42:10,949
deputies force county jail
inmates Ricardo Garcia and

2804
02:42:10,949 --> 02:42:14,069
Stanley Harris, who is much
bigger than Garcia to fight each

2805
02:42:14,069 --> 02:42:17,519
other at least twice in the jail
on Bryan street. Then deputy

2806
02:42:17,519 --> 02:42:20,039
Scott new allegedly told the two
inmates that if they didn't

2807
02:42:20,039 --> 02:42:22,859
fight each other, he'd
handcuffed them mace or tase

2808
02:42:22,859 --> 02:42:25,289
them, beat them or send them to
a different jail

2809
02:42:25,320 --> 02:42:29,130
this crime severely undermine
the moral authority of the

2810
02:42:29,130 --> 02:42:34,080
honest hardworking deputies that
work hard day in and day out. To

2811
02:42:34,080 --> 02:42:34,830
protect this

2812
02:42:34,859 --> 02:42:37,739
public defender Jeff Adachi
helped bring the allegations to

2813
02:42:37,739 --> 02:42:38,039
light.

2814
02:42:38,279 --> 02:42:43,469
We call this sort of a Game of
Thrones gladiator fight. Boy, oh

2815
02:42:43,469 --> 02:42:44,039
boy, boy,

2816
02:42:44,070 --> 02:42:47,490
this is your police. Yeah, gosh,

2817
02:42:47,910 --> 02:42:50,730
board. prison guards.

2818
02:42:50,760 --> 02:42:54,330
Yeah. Well, John, thank you very
much. That was I have to say a

2819
02:42:54,330 --> 02:43:05,100
very, very good thing, go boom,
boom. Boom. That's right,

2820
02:43:05,100 --> 02:43:09,600
everybody. And that should wrap
it up, John. I think so. I think

2821
02:43:09,600 --> 02:43:13,860
it wraps it up for me.
Outstanding. Well, I have what I

2822
02:43:13,860 --> 02:43:21,060
had, we didn't get oh, I have mh
17 mh 370 News. And I'll, I'll

2823
02:43:21,060 --> 02:43:23,700
have it all on Sunday, Sunday,
Sunday. I just want to tease

2824
02:43:23,700 --> 02:43:27,900
that. It is not a coincidence.
They find a proper possible

2825
02:43:27,900 --> 02:43:32,970
piece of MH 370 On the same day,
that there's a big brouhaha in

2826
02:43:32,970 --> 02:43:38,160
Dutch parliament about lack of
government disclosure on the MH

2827
02:43:38,160 --> 02:43:42,150
17 over Ukraine that they don't
even have never even looked at

2828
02:43:42,150 --> 02:43:45,510
the radar images the US has and
this is turned this will turn

2829
02:43:45,510 --> 02:43:49,080
into something big. And I'll
have the report for you on

2830
02:43:49,080 --> 02:43:49,470
Sunday.

2831
02:43:50,700 --> 02:43:53,640
Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday,
so I look forward to it.

2832
02:43:54,270 --> 02:43:59,430
Okay. All right. I met the mayor
of Austin last night should talk

2833
02:43:59,430 --> 02:44:00,330
about Sunday as

2834
02:44:00,510 --> 02:44:04,560
nails she she he Yeah, he kind
of a guy.

2835
02:44:04,620 --> 02:44:11,520
Yeah. Nice guy. Bad suit. Bad so
bad, sir. i Everybody come in

2836
02:44:11,520 --> 02:44:15,870
and remember us for Sunday,
right here. And coming to you

2837
02:44:15,870 --> 02:44:19,770
from the skyscraper in downtown
Austin Tejas, the crackpot condo

2838
02:44:19,770 --> 02:44:21,360
in the morning, everybody. I'm
Adam curry,

2839
02:44:21,540 --> 02:44:24,060
and from Northern Silicon Valley
where it looks like we're gonna

2840
02:44:24,060 --> 02:44:26,520
start getting rain again, even
though we had a lot of really

2841
02:44:26,520 --> 02:44:29,460
great weather for the last two
weeks, but looks like rains

2842
02:44:29,460 --> 02:44:32,880
coming. Even though this
probably going to be mild. So

2843
02:44:32,910 --> 02:44:37,410
much for this bullcrap. El Nino
I'm John C. Dvorak.

2844
02:44:41,130 --> 02:44:44,280
We'll talk to you again on
Sunday right here on no agenda.

2845
02:44:44,550 --> 02:44:45,360
Donate.

2846
02:44:46,199 --> 02:44:48,149
Do not come to Europe.

2847
02:44:48,180 --> 02:44:50,490
Okay. You know what? No, no, no,
no,

2848
02:44:51,660 --> 02:44:56,670
no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no.

2849
02:44:58,650 --> 02:45:00,120
You're my house. By

2850
02:45:00,570 --> 02:45:09,390
drinking the booze shame on you
yesterday was one for the

2851
02:45:09,390 --> 02:45:12,000
history book yeah

2852
02:45:14,639 --> 02:45:16,049
yeah

2853
02:45:19,350 --> 02:45:22,680
yeah carrying babies and

2854
02:45:22,980 --> 02:45:23,730
testicles

2855
02:45:23,910 --> 02:45:25,020
yeah

2856
02:45:26,820 --> 02:45:31,800
birth to them when you start

2857
02:45:37,230 --> 02:45:37,950
pressing that day

2858
02:45:37,980 --> 02:45:40,560
Davis Yeah

2859
02:45:43,440 --> 02:45:46,110
this is yeah

2860
02:45:49,290 --> 02:45:58,830
this is yeah I don't claim to
carry on I understand Rosemary

2861
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okay now Donald thank you for
the book The dumb dog you can

2862
02:46:07,650 --> 02:46:23,970
get back a lot of fun thank you
for that my name is nothing

2863
02:46:23,970 --> 02:46:44,310
about wonder you lose watch on
this gentleman right ladies here

2864
02:46:44,310 --> 02:46:44,820
we go

2865
02:46:53,640 --> 02:46:59,340
don't need to know agenda they
give us shows we get her we

2866
02:46:59,400 --> 02:47:05,130
donate to and no agenda is the
show that's really unique.

2867
02:47:05,250 --> 02:47:12,870
Donate to listen to John Adams
be the only way to know which

2868
02:47:13,860 --> 02:47:22,260
science is turning into Klieg.
Hey man fist bump

2869
02:47:22,290 --> 02:47:30,270
Adios mofo.org/n

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