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buffoon a buffoon Natalia

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Adam curry, John C. Dvorak,

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Sunday, November 27 2016. This
is your award winning gizmo

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nation media assassination
episode 881. This

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is no agenda, feeling fuzzy

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under a cloud of dust and
broadcasting live from the

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darkest corners on the internet.
We're not on the list. In the

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morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry

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and from Northern Silicon Valley
where Plato say a woman who

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makes love with baseball MVP
takes one for the team. I'm John

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C. Dvorak.

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Buzzkill.

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I love how Plato was into
baseball. Back in the day.

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This is unknown fact. Yeah. But
you know, I loved baseball.

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He was all over the game the
game all over it. I tell you.

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Yeah. So the bit struck. Friday
morning, John the mold, but the

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bad mold here the one that puts
me to sleep. Yeah, that puts me

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to sleep.

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Bowl is this that we know. I
don't know what a mold. It is.

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We are we have to listen to
this. Yeah. Well, you just get a

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good heat filter.

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I have it. I have everything got
ozone blast, and I got

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everything. I can't stop it.

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It must be a very must be very
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minute. Amount

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of mold. Yeah, I'm probably very
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that. Yeah.

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So anyway, so there's Friday, I
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day. Like what's going on? It
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Oh, I know what's going on? It's
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Old. Yeah. Yeah. So where do we
start today?

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Well, first of all, this is
where you go. I'm

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sorry. No, I'm sorry. We do have
a place to start. I'm sorry. My

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mistake. The following podcast

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contains news that is fake.
Unlike your anal leakage, which

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is real. Listener discretion

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is advised. All right. I'll get
back to that. I have a I have a

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weather report because I like to
bitch about this sort of thing.

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Yeah. It's from last night where
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more rain moving over the
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this hour, all being pushed by a
deep blow up around reading. And

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that means more showers through
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morning to one of the complete
forecast just ahead. So what is

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the actual

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weather was Sunday morning? I
got up at seven. It's Sunday

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morning. Now it's nine in Sunday
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Yeah, it's sunny.

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It's sunny. In fact, the sun's
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blinding me. It's so sunny.

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This is an outrage. This guy is
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He's not doing his job. But

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he's the he's taking the cues
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he was actually the the anchor.
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that the I know it's not going
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either. Like it's going to be
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like no nothing. Well, it's a my
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show. Oh, great. Thank you
that's very helpful is something

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that was was Obama or somebody
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And they were saying they now
changed the whole meme to 99%.

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On site. Well,

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I have this clip, John. And I
wasn't planning on rolling it

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out here. But it is a part of
the Ministry of truthiness

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division of our of our show
notes. And we might have since

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it's about, we're talking about
fake news, and you just brought

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in the weather report. I
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seamlessly fold into that.
Christiana Amanpour, who wrote

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now she of course, he now works
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Council on Foreign Relations.
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which is the committee for
protecting journalists committee

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or commission, one of the two.
committee or commission and she

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was receiving an award.

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Do you know about the why? It's
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the Benjamin Button Memorial
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Benjamin Button.

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Sorry, the Burton Benjamin
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Benjamin Moore Memorial Award?

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I have no idea really dodging
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Oh, yeah, exactly. If we don't
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know, fine awards, we'll never
get an award ever. So she was

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No, I'm not gonna be do you got
to podcasting award I boy. Oh,

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no, that's true. That's true,
but not a journalistic award. So

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this is the Peabody will get a
Peabody anyone can get a Peabody

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look at Richard Engel. Anyone
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a Christianna unimportance, he
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know, like a 1520 minute speech
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of things from this because she
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media, the way they speak about
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opened up with what she felt was
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the journalists need to be
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just touched on, it's climate
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Like many people watching when I
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like them was shocked by the
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before one candidate, and the
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another candidate. It also
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much of the media was tying
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differentiate between balance
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and crucially, the truth. We
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paradigm. We cannot, for
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was over global warming, where
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empirical fine watch.

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Now remember, she's winning a
journalistic award. John, this

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is this is what makes it so
great. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it gets

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even crazier what she says
homeless loves the sound of the

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song, get them the whole bit
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But warming, when 99.9% of the
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the evidence is given equal play
with the tiny minority of

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deniers.

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And by the way, that's not even
true. She's a liar. That's why

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we pointed out on a recent PBS
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anybody saying anything. No, it
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But this is bull crap. Well,
also the 99.9

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with a very small bunch of
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There's a 30,000.

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Group strong. Minimum. Yeah,
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97 point of whatever it is
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began with this become a meme. I
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wanted people, the skeptics to
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constantly lie about this?

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Well, I have had thoughts about
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and you'll hear in the next
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First, you'll hear to the next
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operate, when they read
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they haven't even seen a video
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they read about it in The New
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You see, they don't need to go
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York Times apparently has
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apparent in these in the other
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this one up, let's go back and
hear that fine statistic which

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is just not even true, according
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global warming. When 99 science
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equal play with the tiny
minority of deniers. I learned a

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long, long time ago, when I was
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actually very interesting what
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if you really listen to what she
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long, long time ago. She tells
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of makes me think she was
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a long, long time ago, when I
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ethnic cleansing in Bosnia,
never to equate victim and

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aggressor never to create a
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equivalence. Because then if you
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like that, you are party and
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unspeakable crimes and
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Did she do something wrong? She
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that she was a partaker in a
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and that is a convoluted
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again. I had to listen more
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do particularly in situations
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sorry, we roll it back a little
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create a false moral or factual
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do particularly in situations
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accomplice to the most
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consequences. So I believe in
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what

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do you think happened there? She
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that's, that's my takeaway from
it. Yeah. Okay. Now let's listen

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to a little bit more from her.
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prestigious award, apparently a
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gala Gala. If she added lager
loved them. galas. Yeah, she had

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tons of jewels on jewels,
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it looked high end. Let's put it
that way. Now. Okay. So again,

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this is from the Benjamin Button
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Christianna poor. This is the
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you listen to this, you think,
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just as long as someone they
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that's the story and they take
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to accept that we have had our
lunch handed to us by the very

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same social media that we have
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truth. The winning candidate did
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oh, well, no,

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they he bypass the gatekeeper.
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not stand and used it to go
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not okay. Combined with the most
incredible development ever,

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which is the tsunami of fake
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And hold on, I gotta play a
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news, John, it's not just a
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tsunami of fake news. You read
that? Thank you, Greg Davies

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forgot to try to do him on the
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ball. Here we go find

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with the most incredible
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tsunami of fake news, aka lies,
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would not recognize factcheck or
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main writers of these false news
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says, Wait, who could that be?
That people are getting dumber?

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And just passing fake reports
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And we now need to ask whether
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our human ability to keep up?

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Yeah. Why don't you read? Ted
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Facebook needs to step by step
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advertise on these obviously
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they know are just they get lots
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money,

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complete misunderstanding of the
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that back for a second. She
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not advertise on those fake news
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know that they're fake news
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lots of money. No, no, maybe for
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ads, but not the advertisers
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or other services. Here Did you
hear that?

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It was very interesting. She
doesn't tell us a good catch.

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Because I didn't hear it but I
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It was one of those things where
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another No, I think makes her
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Yeah, he's fake nose eyes

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on these obviously fake news
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are just they get lots of clicks
so they get lots of money. No.

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Wild go Neem, who was one of the
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called social media revolution.
Now says quote, the same medium

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that so effectively transmits a
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appears to undermine the actual
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Social media amplifies the human
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kind. Yeah, it tends to reduce
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mobilizing slogans that
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the likeminded rather than
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and to reach for consensus.

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Thank you for deconstructing how
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Hate speech, hey untruths appear
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truths. Now the question is,
which is which? So I feel that

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right now we face an existential
crisis, a real threat to the

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very relevance and usefulness of
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ever, I genuinely believe that
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reporting across a real nation
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journalism and democracy are in
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You know, what you need for
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and money, something that news
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by foreign powers like Russia?
Oh, there it is, hey, to churn

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out into place the news. They
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what is it with the word hack?
That whenever someone say you

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can, you can set your clock on
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hack, hack, hack? Listen,

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they hack into Pac Pac?

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Why is that? If you notice this,

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a catchy word.

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Yeah, those these lies in many
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democratic systems, just here is
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now, allegedly, and crucial
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going on Germany and France and
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they're hacking the democratic
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stand.

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Hell is she saying?

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No, but I send my pants. Here's
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last one short clip. And this is
this really wraps it up where

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you will, you'll see that when
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is what they do is that they
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have their own echo chamber.
They really do. And here's the

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end of these meetings. I want
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effect I want you to talk about
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she is now now. She is going to
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conference where six people are
going hail Trump and now she has

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not seen the video. This is what
makes it fascinating. This

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reporter who has not seen the
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atrocious this moment was based
upon really her reading about

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it, I presume in the New York
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something that she deems to be
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you read you must all have read
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not far from the White House in
Washington this weekend? We must

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be doing many, many stories
about the dangerous right? The

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dangerous rise of the far right,
not just here, but also across

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Europe. And since when did Neo
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a crucial litmus test in the
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So there you go. She says, I'm
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horrible atrocity. I'm sure you
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it. She didn't see it

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didn't do much work to see it. I
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that you're bringing it up as a
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don't understand why you just
don't look at these damn videos.

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I don't understand how hard can
it be? You can do a search at

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you. It's not hard to find
these. They're not by the way, I

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will say this. The way YouTube
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if you really want to find
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do this search properly, you'll
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date order. They don't do newest
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anything like that. You have to
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there that find this thing. But
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journalist should be able to do
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It's somehow they saw that you
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audit, who saw it and said, hey,
you know, there's no there

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that would have made me feel
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meetings about these. You were
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And this is all this is really
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Chamber journalists, any group
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were like a built in hierarchy.
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meetings always have it is an
echo chamber. Exactly. They

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always they're all very liberal,
the whole operations are all

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liberal. And hierarchies. What's
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you have these these especially
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editors and the end of the
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Editor in Chief, those are the
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they're all like you know
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talking about the business and
and you know what, we're how

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we're gonna go forward. And then
you have the troops which are

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all the journalists that work
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orders or staff reporters or
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correspondence, which are the

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agents of change John agents.
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they these guys are all just all
progressive all of them. Yeah,

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with very few exceptions,
there's maybe one or two and

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they you see them, they're
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more conservative members of the
media, which are very few show

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up and they kind of they all
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all five of them in a group of
200, right? Well, they all

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gather together whenever I don't
know what we're gonna do, or

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just it's terrible, right. And
everyone's lockstep and they're

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just exactly what you said. So
it's a, it's a feeding frenzy of

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what do we and they all think
they own the place, and they

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can't do crap. I mean, if you
look at the last newsletter I

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sent out, which was a good one,
I liked it a lot. That was

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really good. All the covers of
an eight daily news and you have

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been stuff Trump is through
because he criticized McCain.

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Trump is done because he did
this. He'll never be President,

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favorite news guy favorite Trump
is Hitler of my favorite.

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Trump is Hitler was bound to be
in there Monday. But if you look

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at all these, these, these
assertions that this is the

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problem that you had with David
Brooks on the PBS show, right,

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right. The guy doesn't know what
he's done. They have no clue.

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They are so removed from
society, that they have no idea

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what they're talking about. This
is a business. I say it all the

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time. This is a business that
has so much insight that they

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didn't even see their own
demise. That great. This is a

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business where you said in a
meeting where they guy admitted,

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managing

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up No, no, I'll tell you the
story. This was 1995 or 1996. We

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went to see the Tribune Company
in Chicago. And we sat there and

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they were like, well, we've got
everything under coal control.

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We've got the Storify system,
whatever that was called, was a

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number that was like something
yet, vignette. Thank you. Yeah.

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Wow. We've got the vignette
system. We're all good to see

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bitten. You know, what's
happening. As far as I

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understand your business, you
make money mainly on classified

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ads. And have you seen this
thing called Craigslist? We

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believe that they're going to
eat your lunch there. So you've

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got to come up with other ways.
Maybe starting on Craigslist

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would be an idea. But okay,
whatever you want to do. You got

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to do something. And there was a
Yeah, have you seen this

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building? The Tribune Company
has been around for over 100

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years.

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Now there's that but there's
also the meeting we had in San

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Francisco with the with the
Chronicle with Hearst and they

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admitted, the editor admitted
that they had been all Ferd

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Craigslist the entire product,
there was shit. Yes, you're

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right. What's his name comes in.
I can't remember the guy who

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runs it by the name of Craig
Craig Craig Newmark, Craig Craig

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Newmark walks in and says, Look
what I've done. Do you guys want

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it, we'll just split it or
whatever. And they said, do ads,

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we don't need you. That is the
most that is the classic digital

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people that are trying to tell
us how to think and what our

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opinion should be like. And
that's the kind of decisions

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that they make.

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Well, let's,

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well you know what I then I'll
just fill out this first, the a

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block with more of this since I
think we're on a on a roll here.

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Let me give you the opinion of
another elitist Andrea Mitchell,

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who somehow was Was she always a
journalist? That was where did

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she come from? Actually, I'd
have to look it up. You might

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want to check it once you want
to check the book of knowledge.

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Oh, we play this as her version
and her take on the hill. The

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Hill Trump

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supporters of Donald Trump's
election and the alt right

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movement gathered in Washington
this weekend at the Reagan

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Building a government facility
to celebrate with a white

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supremacist speech and echoes of
signature language from Nazi

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Germany, as uncovered by the
Atlantic magazine. Some members

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of the audience then jumped to
their feet, you can see this

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with arms extended, and Atlantic
reporter presences he heard some

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shouting Heil, in German, not
hail the translation in English,

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NBC News was not present to
independently confirm what

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happened, Jonathan. We've never
seen anything like this in an

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election cycle. There has been
plenty of white supremacist

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stuff out there. You track it
all the time. Yeah. But this is

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pretty noteworthy. It's not part
of Donald Trump's transition or

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administration and creation.
It's an independent support

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group. But let's just translate
for people when he says as

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Europeans when he talks about my
struggle, yep, that's my income.

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Okay, it's my income gotcha
course, my struggle is my

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income.

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Wow, that's a borderline Clip of
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I'll take that. I'll take a
board. Alright, so there's kind

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of a new beat that I'm trying to
work on. And I'll need to undo a

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lot of help from the producers,
because it's very time

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intensive. What is happening
with podcasts in particular, is

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we have a lot of journalistic
podcasts, which are created by

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people who do real mainstream
work or what they would consider

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real journalism. And they go on
podcasts, and they let down

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their guard and they start
talking the way they really feel

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and the way they talk in the
newsroom. And this is this gives

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us some of the best
deconstruction moments I feel

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that we can get. Because then
you hear their hubris. You hear

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their arrogance, you hear their
elitism, and quite honestly, the

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globalist view of the world is
so time intensive part of it is

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of course, listen to all these
shitty podcasts and believe me,

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a lot of them are pretty crap.

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The New York Times has a
podcast. Let me see what it's

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called here. Yeah, they have a
pot of the worst. Yeah, it's

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called it's, it's called the run
up

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the run up. And

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this particular episode, I
pulled a couple of quotes. It's,

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this isn't this will give an
example of what I'm trying to

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do. Some of its good some of its
okay. But if you really listen

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is it's quite disturbing to hear
these people talk to Maggie

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Haberman, and I guess she's a
she's a star reporter for the

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New York Times. Then you have
Ross, what's his name? Stafford.

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What's his name? Stafford. Some
opinion guy opinion columnist.

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I don't know any but opinion
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And then as Don't worry, it
doesn't matter as a host

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Michael. Okay. So what they're
talking about is the visit

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Donald Trump brought to the New
York Times. And they were they

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were all three in the room. And
they're going into and they also

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have clips kind of meta meta,
because they're talking about

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when Trump was there, the whole
event was recorded. So they play

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some clips of the event, what
they're talking about. And of

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course, we're meta on top of
that, playing clips of them

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paying playing clips. So it may
get a little confusing. I know.

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You did that wrong, man. This is
how it goes.

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All right. So Maggie Haberman
talking about to Trump and his

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general, just his demeanor. He
came

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into our editorial board meeting
many, many months ago, and many,

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many ended it. He repeatedly
went on and on about how it was

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great honor. So I mean, I do
think that there is to the

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extent that Trump is easily
defined by a lot of many of them

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conflicting impulses, many of
them dating back to I think,

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decades ago. He is still the boy
from Queens who looks at the

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times as sort of the the crown
jewel, and wants a level of

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respect. I don't think he would
have been here if he didn't want

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that and the meeting was at his
request. Trump was actually

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quite calm considering the
various states I've seen him in.

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This is not the first time I
been in a room with him. So I

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have a comparison point. I mean,
he started out a little bit

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defensive. I thought he had his
arms folded as he was sitting

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down Heisey very tightly.

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The metaphor that came to mind
was of a, an unhappy kid. Yeah,

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sort of waiting for something
really bad to happen.

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Here this. I love these people.
So there's that's what they

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thought it looked like a little
kid. Why did they say petulant

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child that was such an issue
when it was shot when it was

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said about Obama

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as a petulant child before us.
Do

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you remember that? We dealt with
it appropriately. Who was it?

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Was it Romney or someone who
called Obama a petulant child

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and everyone's like, racist,
racist?

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Does that mean Boy, don't you
remember that? Yeah, Begley

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00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,670
was sort of getting ready to
endure punishment, right? And

449
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:49,350
yes, Ryan's doled out the punch
of light up as time went on, he

450
00:25:49,350 --> 00:25:54,210
sort of got that off his chest.
And then he talked about

451
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,610
essentially the greatest hits of
the primary and the general

452
00:25:56,610 --> 00:25:59,910
election and his rallies and how
he had captured the mood. And he

453
00:25:59,910 --> 00:26:03,120
just felt it with Michigan. And
he had added a final stop. And

454
00:26:03,120 --> 00:26:05,580
he were that Hillary Clinton
thought she was going to lose

455
00:26:05,580 --> 00:26:08,370
Michigan. So that's how they did
it. It was really fascinating,

456
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:09,390
really fascinating.

457
00:26:09,420 --> 00:26:11,610
Do you know these kinds of
people John, talking like this

458
00:26:11,610 --> 00:26:16,350
was really fascinating was just
so awesome. Here we go over

459
00:26:16,350 --> 00:26:20,220
there back behind many behind
their scenes. This is now this

460
00:26:20,220 --> 00:26:24,540
was a little tidbit which did
not make it into the the article

461
00:26:24,570 --> 00:26:27,480
about Trump. And I thought this
was very newsworthy,

462
00:26:27,510 --> 00:26:29,640
but to your point, that's
another impulse that was on

463
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,810
display in this meeting, which
is Trump is I think I described

464
00:26:33,810 --> 00:26:38,640
him as sort of like the hair
salon gossip. During the

465
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,940
campaign. I mean, there is this,
you know, did you hear quality

466
00:26:41,940 --> 00:26:44,760
to him? And he said something
about, you know, there was one

467
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,400
thing that Obama is very afraid
of, you know, I'm not gonna say

468
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:47,610
what

469
00:26:47,700 --> 00:26:50,460
it is he wanted us to ask
ourselves what

470
00:26:50,970 --> 00:26:53,700
was really enhanced? So just to
just to further explain that

471
00:26:53,700 --> 00:26:58,590
episode, when Trump said,
there's one thing Barack Obama

472
00:26:58,590 --> 00:27:02,760
told me that he's, he's scared
of and we should all be scared

473
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,370
of, but I won't tell you. And
then someone followed up and

474
00:27:05,370 --> 00:27:07,830
said, Oh, no, please tell us and
he said, No, you'll have to ask

475
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,650
more. where's the where's the
journalism?

476
00:27:11,910 --> 00:27:16,530
That I'm interested in? is, what
could it be?

477
00:27:19,140 --> 00:27:21,330
I don't know scabies. I have no
idea.

478
00:27:22,830 --> 00:27:27,150
I find that I just found it
peculiar that if a presidential

479
00:27:27,180 --> 00:27:29,760
of President Elect said that, to
me, The New York Times would be

480
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:34,440
like, Okay, I'm gonna go ask. I
see no evidence of the masking

481
00:27:34,770 --> 00:27:35,280
for Irish

482
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:39,150
tonight. Um, but it was actually
a when you hear a little later,

483
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,940
a clip I have, which I'll
probably introduce in this

484
00:27:41,940 --> 00:27:45,780
segment, because of where we're
going. Yeah. It's all explained.

485
00:27:46,350 --> 00:27:46,860
Okay.

486
00:27:48,570 --> 00:27:51,840
Now, this was a little bit of
the podcast that I found

487
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,710
interesting as they are now like
journalism students, they're so

488
00:27:55,710 --> 00:27:59,460
interested in each other and how
they ask the question, and, you

489
00:27:59,460 --> 00:28:02,430
know, how did you feel when you
engaged in what was the what the

490
00:28:02,430 --> 00:28:04,740
feeling like when he didn't
answer your question? It's

491
00:28:04,770 --> 00:28:06,240
really, it's creepy. Can

492
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,580
I ask you, when you about the
experience of asking the

493
00:28:08,700 --> 00:28:11,760
President Elect Donald Trump a
question? In this meeting, and I

494
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,250
watched you, I really, I watched
you because I was kind of

495
00:28:14,250 --> 00:28:16,320
marveling I was trying to think
how long you would go how you'd

496
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,030
frame the question. Oh, you're
marveling

497
00:28:18,030 --> 00:28:18,990
at what you were doing just

498
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,800
marveling at your question
style? You've already asked

499
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:24,990
a question. I know. But I still
was really interested in what

500
00:28:24,990 --> 00:28:28,470
you what you asked for and how
you were about to ask it. And it

501
00:28:28,470 --> 00:28:31,440
was essentially, can you get
something as mammoth as an

502
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:35,400
infrastructure project through
this Republican Congress? And

503
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:36,870
what did he What did he say?

504
00:28:36,899 --> 00:28:39,779
What did you say John? Nothing.
Oh, I thought you said

505
00:28:39,779 --> 00:28:40,199
something. Um, so

506
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,930
the answer your question and
like, what's the overall feeling

507
00:28:42,930 --> 00:28:44,550
you got of of the interaction?

508
00:28:45,300 --> 00:28:48,330
I mean, the feeling? Well, the
interaction started with, you

509
00:28:48,330 --> 00:28:51,450
know, we were all identifying
ourselves. And he said something

510
00:28:51,450 --> 00:28:51,750
to the

511
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,500
feeling did you get I know,
it's, it's like, how did you

512
00:28:55,500 --> 00:28:58,650
feel? When you asked that
question where you were like, if

513
00:28:58,650 --> 00:29:00,450
you were a tree, what kind of a
tree would you be in this

514
00:29:00,450 --> 00:29:01,080
context?

515
00:29:01,379 --> 00:29:05,279
This is exactly what I wanted to
hear you say? It's so sickening.

516
00:29:05,489 --> 00:29:08,129
What did you feel when you asked
the question was so awesome as a

517
00:29:08,129 --> 00:29:08,729
journalist?

518
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,010
Well, the interaction started
with, you know, we were all

519
00:29:11,010 --> 00:29:14,610
identifying ourselves. And he
said something to de identified

520
00:29:14,610 --> 00:29:17,490
myself. And he sort of gave me a
look and said something to the

521
00:29:17,490 --> 00:29:20,550
effect of, you know, I know who
you are, which again, sort of

522
00:29:20,550 --> 00:29:24,240
confirms just the sense you have
that Trump takes the New York

523
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:28,110
Times seriously and takes our
criticism, bipartisan criticism,

524
00:29:28,110 --> 00:29:30,570
since I'm obviously a
conservative columnist that he

525
00:29:30,570 --> 00:29:33,720
takes it to heart not
necessarily in positive way,

526
00:29:34,050 --> 00:29:36,840
because we're awesome, judging
by his Twitter feed, but it does

527
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,020
matter to him. So there's that
in terms of the question. I

528
00:29:40,020 --> 00:29:42,330
mean, what I was trying to tease
out and he's obviously not going

529
00:29:42,330 --> 00:29:45,210
to get into this is less the
specific infrastructure bill

530
00:29:45,210 --> 00:29:48,750
question and more just this
broad conflict divisions between

531
00:29:48,750 --> 00:29:52,680
Trumpism as an economic
philosophy and Paul Ryan's

532
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:53,850
economic philosophy.

533
00:29:54,060 --> 00:29:57,510
Now notice that they the word
Trumpism is now a word they use

534
00:29:57,510 --> 00:29:58,140
internally

535
00:29:59,490 --> 00:30:01,620
which to I don't know, just

536
00:30:01,710 --> 00:30:02,760
good catch you find

537
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:07,380
that interesting that they're
calling that that way. Let me

538
00:30:07,380 --> 00:30:11,190
see. Oh, okay. Now this. Again,
I don't think I saw this

539
00:30:11,190 --> 00:30:14,970
reported. This is about Steve
Brin. And of course, the New

540
00:30:14,970 --> 00:30:18,570
York Times ban and I'm sorry,
the New York Times has a huge

541
00:30:18,570 --> 00:30:21,450
issue with with the alt right,
obviously because they're evil.

542
00:30:21,450 --> 00:30:23,700
They're Nazis. Heil, Heil. Heil
Trump.

543
00:30:24,210 --> 00:30:26,700
They're doing stories in New
York Times not doing right. And

544
00:30:26,700 --> 00:30:27,120
then of

545
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:32,310
course, it's impossible for the
president elect to reconcile

546
00:30:32,340 --> 00:30:36,600
Breitbart with the with his
views on on the alt right is

547
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,660
none of this makes sense. And
what what this band and this guy

548
00:30:39,660 --> 00:30:43,080
is, I mean, he, he's, he's no
good. He's no good.

549
00:30:43,170 --> 00:30:46,620
There is a, a fairly complicated
portrait of Steve Bannon that

550
00:30:46,620 --> 00:30:51,360
somebody can can paint. There's,
there have been complaints about

551
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,810
him. But there's, you know, from
I think, from some past

552
00:30:54,810 --> 00:30:58,110
employees and so forth, but
there's not a whole lot

553
00:30:58,110 --> 00:31:00,600
of them, so forth. Now, listen,
this is very interesting what

554
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:01,290
she says, yeah,

555
00:31:01,530 --> 00:31:06,150
there's not a whole lot of hard
evidence or video or whatever of

556
00:31:06,150 --> 00:31:07,320
him. There's nothing.

557
00:31:10,530 --> 00:31:11,610
Like, the old

558
00:31:11,610 --> 00:31:13,350
farts, shaking my fist at the
television,

559
00:31:13,530 --> 00:31:15,300
I'll give you a second to shake
her

560
00:31:15,300 --> 00:31:19,350
video or whatever of him making
anti semitic statements. A lot

561
00:31:19,350 --> 00:31:22,290
of this comes from these divorce
filings from long time ago.

562
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:26,370
Oh, there you go. So all this
anti semitic stuff. There's no

563
00:31:26,370 --> 00:31:29,160
proof. She's saying the New York
Times is saying there's no

564
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:30,900
proof. How come they don't write
them?

565
00:31:32,430 --> 00:31:36,000
Because it doesn't fit them
narrative. I've been watching

566
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,650
Bannon speeches. Yeah,

567
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:42,090
I've seen one. This guy is
really

568
00:31:43,260 --> 00:31:47,250
he's a he's a financial guy. And
I think and I was been thinking,

569
00:31:47,250 --> 00:31:50,970
Why is Trump even have him
extremely intelligent,

570
00:31:51,090 --> 00:31:56,160
insightful, Goldman Sachs guy
who knows the ropes. And he

571
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,070
knows what's going on with the
economy. This is what this is

572
00:31:59,070 --> 00:32:01,680
about. It's got nothing to do
with anti semitism or anything

573
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,990
else. Go listen to some of his
old speeches. He did a couple

574
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,920
around 2011 2012 that were
pretty fascinating. No, there's

575
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,830
no anti there's nothing in there
about a brace or anything. It's

576
00:32:10,830 --> 00:32:15,090
just about the economy is in
there to be the go to guy when

577
00:32:15,090 --> 00:32:18,630
the economy collapses in which
it will do invariably during

578
00:32:18,630 --> 00:32:20,580
this Trump first term.

579
00:32:20,940 --> 00:32:25,740
It is fascinating to me that a
couple of podcasters have to

580
00:32:25,770 --> 00:32:29,520
break it down to understand what
he's doing in the cabinet in the

581
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:34,470
in the White House as advisor.
Where's the New York Times can't

582
00:32:34,470 --> 00:32:38,100
seem to come up with that, Jim.
I mean, here's his background is

583
00:32:38,100 --> 00:32:41,160
well known. And yes, Goldman
Sachs, you know, when you

584
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,530
Yes. And when you listen to his
speeches, especially the ones

585
00:32:43,530 --> 00:32:47,610
done around the 2020 2012
timeframe. He makes it he does a

586
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:51,240
long exposition at the beginning
about the economy, where it

587
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,570
stands, where the trillions that
we owe, how it's gonna break

588
00:32:54,570 --> 00:32:58,230
down how the bond market is
gonna go when the bar saw that

589
00:32:58,230 --> 00:33:01,470
when the bond market is gonna
collapse. But he talks about the

590
00:33:01,470 --> 00:33:04,290
bond market collapsing, he's
about that. That's what he's

591
00:33:04,290 --> 00:33:07,320
about. Do you know how not about
what do people think he's doing?

592
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:07,710
They're

593
00:33:08,070 --> 00:33:11,460
about they think he's
infiltrating the old rights,

594
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,390
propaganda machine of fake news
into the Trump administration.

595
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,630
Do you know how he made his
money? In other words,

596
00:33:21,660 --> 00:33:24,960
he made a lot of money being an
investor and television shows

597
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:25,260
Yes,

598
00:33:25,260 --> 00:33:28,980
and which one in particular?
Seinfeld has right? He has a big

599
00:33:28,980 --> 00:33:31,800
piece of that. I know if it's a
big piece, but he has a piece of

600
00:33:32,790 --> 00:33:35,100
everybody else who's got a
lesser piece of the action,

601
00:33:35,130 --> 00:33:37,290
because no one wants to touch
the production. No one wanted to

602
00:33:37,290 --> 00:33:40,080
touch it. And he said, and he
was at Goldman Sachs, and he put

603
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,930
together some kind of deal as
part of the deal. Of course, his

604
00:33:42,930 --> 00:33:46,020
fee was he got a piece of the
action on the back end, and

605
00:33:46,020 --> 00:33:49,320
that's where he's making his
money is beautiful. All right.

606
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,080
Right, Bart content, obviously,

607
00:33:52,230 --> 00:33:53,550
wait for this. This is great.

608
00:33:54,750 --> 00:33:58,080
A different matter. And so Trump
is basically equating that,

609
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,380
once you save Breitbart content
is can be

610
00:34:03,060 --> 00:34:05,970
a different matter from matter.
And so Trump is basically

611
00:34:06,210 --> 00:34:08,040
equated Breitbart with the New
York Times.

612
00:34:09,420 --> 00:34:11,850
This golf hurts to some degree,
I believe

613
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:16,410
so they cover what Yes, I think
they don't like the

614
00:34:16,410 --> 00:34:20,280
equivalencies? No, but it gets
to the top of the pyramid.

615
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,710
Supposedly, there's nothing
that's like nothing, nothing

616
00:34:22,710 --> 00:34:26,160
like and by the way, I just did
as an aside, in this clip, I've

617
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:27,390
been watching a lot of these

618
00:34:28,350 --> 00:34:31,650
various kind of panel shows
where they bring

619
00:34:31,650 --> 00:34:33,600
New York Times reporters and
then the New York Times ever

620
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:38,730
used to send a lot of people and
the New York Times. Characters

621
00:34:38,790 --> 00:34:44,010
I'd say 10 years ago were the
Andrew Ross Sorkin types. The my

622
00:34:44,010 --> 00:34:47,250
friend Markoff over in San
Francisco is would be one of

623
00:34:47,250 --> 00:34:50,940
these guys. And there's a bunch
of other ones and they're New

624
00:34:50,940 --> 00:34:54,570
York Times reporters, they come
on, they wear the blue shirt,

625
00:34:54,870 --> 00:34:58,560
the kind of the just those
regimental tie of some sort.

626
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,350
They're very buttoned down here.
they have a certain kind of a

627
00:35:01,350 --> 00:35:03,780
look that used to have this
small little Himmler glasses.

628
00:35:04,140 --> 00:35:07,170
And they, they present
themselves a certain way. The

629
00:35:07,170 --> 00:35:12,180
more recent New York Times
reporters are slobs, yeah. As

630
00:35:12,180 --> 00:35:15,840
you're right, there was a woman
on one of the shows, and she's

631
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,590
wearing like a black leather
jacket. And she was she was not

632
00:35:19,590 --> 00:35:22,530
even articulate. And she was
from the New York Times, and I'm

633
00:35:22,530 --> 00:35:25,710
noticing that the New York Times
and everybody else is retiring.

634
00:35:26,100 --> 00:35:28,890
The New York Times who is taking
the reporters who are taking

635
00:35:28,890 --> 00:35:34,020
over the New York Times are of a
different style. And they're all

636
00:35:34,050 --> 00:35:36,750
Hillary, they're worse than the
ones that you're listening to

637
00:35:36,750 --> 00:35:37,140
now.

638
00:35:38,070 --> 00:35:41,760
Well, I think this this woman
may be one of the new ones that

639
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:45,870
could be and listen to this
tidbit, which again, I heard no

640
00:35:45,870 --> 00:35:48,570
reporting on, and I think is
quite bold times.

641
00:35:48,660 --> 00:35:49,860
So they cover things.

642
00:35:50,850 --> 00:35:51,930
They're a publication,

643
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:56,820
right, first of all, is is just
a publication. And you know,

644
00:35:56,820 --> 00:36:00,090
they cover stories like you
cover stories now. They are

645
00:36:00,090 --> 00:36:03,450
certainly a much more
conservative paper to put it

646
00:36:03,450 --> 00:36:06,990
mildly than the New York Times,
but but Breitbart really is a

647
00:36:06,990 --> 00:36:12,030
news organization that's become
quite successful. And it's got

648
00:36:12,030 --> 00:36:15,810
readers, and it does cover
subjects that are the right but

649
00:36:15,810 --> 00:36:18,750
it covers subjects of the less
left also. I mean, it's pretty

650
00:36:18,750 --> 00:36:23,220
big. It's a pretty big thing.
And he helped build it into a

651
00:36:23,220 --> 00:36:26,130
pretty successful news
organization.

652
00:36:26,370 --> 00:36:28,830
So there were there was that,
and then he said, so

653
00:36:28,860 --> 00:36:33,990
there was that there was that he
can't stand it. So okay, so

654
00:36:33,990 --> 00:36:36,930
there was that like, somehow
things Breitbart is I didn't

655
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:37,650
jive.

656
00:36:39,330 --> 00:36:43,290
So there was that. And then he
said, If I had any thought that

657
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,470
Steve Bannon associated with the
alt right at all, you know, and

658
00:36:46,470 --> 00:36:49,260
he specifically said that, you
know, I wouldn't hire him. I

659
00:36:49,260 --> 00:36:51,900
mean, Bannon said earlier this
year that Breitbart is a is a

660
00:36:51,900 --> 00:36:55,620
platform for the alt right
movement. So whether Trump knows

661
00:36:55,620 --> 00:36:59,310
that specific fact, I doubt but
Trump is very, very good at sort

662
00:36:59,310 --> 00:36:59,940
of why didn't

663
00:36:59,940 --> 00:37:01,560
you bring it up at the meeting,

664
00:37:01,710 --> 00:37:02,640
wait for it

665
00:37:03,060 --> 00:37:06,360
something and making it a
reality, even if there are facts

666
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:06,990
that go against and

667
00:37:06,990 --> 00:37:09,660
what I found so extraordinary at
that moment, was that he, it was

668
00:37:09,660 --> 00:37:15,630
this strangely, mild tempered
effort at reconciliation, where

669
00:37:15,630 --> 00:37:18,720
he said, if there's something
about Steve Bannon that you

670
00:37:18,720 --> 00:37:22,500
discover that somehow at odds
with anything I'm saying, I want

671
00:37:22,500 --> 00:37:24,750
you to call me I want you to
tell me, No, I'll

672
00:37:24,750 --> 00:37:27,510
tell you what, I know him very
well. I will say this. And I

673
00:37:27,510 --> 00:37:30,810
will say this, if I thought that
strongly if I thought that he

674
00:37:30,810 --> 00:37:34,860
was doing anything, or had any
ideas that were different than

675
00:37:34,860 --> 00:37:39,000
the ideas that you would think I
would ask him very politely to

676
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:44,340
leave. But in the meantime, I
think he's been treated very

677
00:37:44,340 --> 00:37:47,010
unfairly. It's very interesting,
because a lot of people are

678
00:37:47,010 --> 00:37:49,770
coming to his defense right now.
So by the way, if you see

679
00:37:49,770 --> 00:37:54,390
something or get something where
you feel that I'm wrong, and you

680
00:37:54,390 --> 00:37:58,020
have some, I would love to hear
it. Or you can call me or they

681
00:37:58,020 --> 00:37:58,680
can call me

682
00:38:00,240 --> 00:38:03,990
about that. I didn't hear that
offer. I didn't hear of this.

683
00:38:03,990 --> 00:38:07,110
This is great. What did they do?

684
00:38:07,140 --> 00:38:11,190
They just told us in this little
podcast at the Breitbart say, or

685
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,970
Bannon is a creep. Yeah. And
he's like, he said, he's all

686
00:38:14,970 --> 00:38:18,330
right, or whatever. Or the
publication is, why didn't they

687
00:38:18,330 --> 00:38:20,250
bring it up at the meeting? Or
why don't they call him and tell

688
00:38:20,250 --> 00:38:21,210
him? Hey, guess what?

689
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,490
Yeah. All right. No, good. That
was

690
00:38:23,580 --> 00:38:26,160
so fast. I mean, given the
severity of the topic, and given

691
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,230
the number of subjects that
Breitbart has covered in the

692
00:38:28,230 --> 00:38:31,980
past, and how they've covered
it. It was a bit of a strange

693
00:38:32,010 --> 00:38:35,190
gesture. He's saying, Tell me,
tell me if you notice something

694
00:38:35,220 --> 00:38:37,410
that I probably could have
noticed myself if I went online

695
00:38:37,410 --> 00:38:40,020
and found it. And if you find
it, send it to me, and I know

696
00:38:40,020 --> 00:38:40,200
that

697
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,770
go online, but it's, they're
already talking themselves out

698
00:38:43,770 --> 00:38:46,980
of it. They're already talking
like, well, you know, so you

699
00:38:46,980 --> 00:38:49,080
saying, Well, call me if there's
something that I couldn't have

700
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,750
found my No, he didn't say that.
So there's anything you feel is

701
00:38:51,750 --> 00:38:56,010
not in line with what I'm
saying. Then, with regard to

702
00:38:56,010 --> 00:38:58,890
Steve Bannon, I think he kind of
implied anybody but okay.

703
00:38:59,370 --> 00:39:02,640
Abandon then call me and we'll
be you know, and if he does

704
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:07,200
something that is against what
we stand for here, and will

705
00:39:07,530 --> 00:39:11,340
politely ask him to go, but no,
instead of that now, well, this

706
00:39:11,340 --> 00:39:13,770
is ridiculous. And then just top
it off with this last clip,

707
00:39:13,830 --> 00:39:16,350
and that's what it Yeah, it's
what he does to sort of make you

708
00:39:16,350 --> 00:39:19,890
feel and you and I have talked,
you described it on a previous

709
00:39:19,890 --> 00:39:22,290
podcast you describe the
experience of interviewing him

710
00:39:22,290 --> 00:39:24,750
is very seductive. Do you
remember that? Michael, when you

711
00:39:24,750 --> 00:39:26,580
said that? You said it is very
good?

712
00:39:26,759 --> 00:39:28,889
I think I did. And Michael
doesn't really want to remember

713
00:39:28,889 --> 00:39:29,129
Yeah,

714
00:39:29,730 --> 00:39:33,210
it's a very seductive
experience. Trump is very good

715
00:39:33,210 --> 00:39:35,640
at making you feel as if he's
reaching out to you and bringing

716
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,340
you in and so that's what I took
that gesture to mean to me that

717
00:39:38,340 --> 00:39:42,300
gesture was you know what, I
hear you I'm with you. And I'm

718
00:39:42,300 --> 00:39:46,170
not I'm not foreclosing it. And
this is a good faith thing. I

719
00:39:46,170 --> 00:39:48,780
suspect that if somebody called
him tomorrow with like five

720
00:39:48,780 --> 00:39:51,420
examples, I don't think it would
actually change much.

721
00:39:51,450 --> 00:39:52,920
Why don't you give it a try?

722
00:39:54,510 --> 00:40:02,610
Wow. What arrogance? Why? Why
beer Did you okay

723
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:04,920
she said,

724
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:11,880
unbelievable. Yeah,
unbelievable. Just unbelievable.

725
00:40:12,240 --> 00:40:15,450
smugness it's, there's a bunch
of I know there's a million

726
00:40:15,450 --> 00:40:18,690
words we have any a list of
words. Well, sanctimoniously

727
00:40:18,690 --> 00:40:21,390
smug is our sanctimoniously smug
see

728
00:40:21,390 --> 00:40:24,990
someone gave me a term,
sanctimonious

729
00:40:25,020 --> 00:40:28,860
get. That's a British ism.

730
00:40:29,430 --> 00:40:34,590
That's an urban addiction yet in
the urban dictionary, a person

731
00:40:34,590 --> 00:40:38,730
or conglomerate of two persons,
who is so far up his or her own

732
00:40:38,730 --> 00:40:41,610
or their own collective
arsehole, their own mother wants

733
00:40:41,610 --> 00:40:44,640
to heads British, their own
mother wants to run them down.

734
00:40:45,810 --> 00:40:48,540
The sanctimonious get takes
pictures during a group holiday

735
00:40:48,540 --> 00:40:50,940
then tries to charge for them,
even though everyone else is

736
00:40:50,940 --> 00:40:51,900
sharing pictures.

737
00:40:52,380 --> 00:40:56,970
Okay, maybe not. Okay, well,
that's still a good, good

738
00:40:56,970 --> 00:40:57,540
phrase.

739
00:40:58,740 --> 00:41:01,080
But let's go to something that's
good jump today, because there's

740
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,390
a little explanation of the kind
of lazy journalism we're talking

741
00:41:03,390 --> 00:41:06,480
about here. Yeah. And in this
particular thing, and this is

742
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:11,280
kind of an ask Adam. Oh, okay.
All right. The Oxford I don't

743
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,130
know if you know, but the Oxford
dictionary the Oxford boys, the

744
00:41:14,130 --> 00:41:18,420
boys in the in the UK? Yeah.
They have decided on their

745
00:41:18,420 --> 00:41:20,130
phrase or word of the year.
Yeah,

746
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:24,000
I think I know what it is. But
what do you think it is? Is it

747
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:25,020
not post truth?

748
00:41:25,919 --> 00:41:27,089
Nets? Well, we

749
00:41:27,090 --> 00:41:28,860
talked about it the other day,
but it's okay.

750
00:41:29,069 --> 00:41:32,039
Um, okay. Well, I was gonna do a
quiz. And he gave me a bunch of

751
00:41:32,039 --> 00:41:34,799
potential words of truth to me.

752
00:41:34,980 --> 00:41:37,770
Do you think the mode question
Do you think I read the

753
00:41:37,770 --> 00:41:42,570
Internet, but I wouldn't stumble
across this nugget of

754
00:41:44,610 --> 00:41:48,570
stuff I don't get every second
of the day and then glued to it.

755
00:41:48,900 --> 00:41:53,160
But let's, let's play this
because this is the explanation

756
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:57,450
about post truth. And in it,
they discussed modern

757
00:41:57,450 --> 00:42:01,530
journalism, and how they and how
they don't do any read. They

758
00:42:01,530 --> 00:42:06,240
don't what you just played is
exemplified by the definition of

759
00:42:06,240 --> 00:42:06,870
post truth.

760
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,050
In the aftermath of media
coverage of the US presidential

761
00:42:10,050 --> 00:42:14,250
election campaign and Britain's
vote to quit the EU. The Oxford

762
00:42:14,250 --> 00:42:17,280
Dictionaries groups declared
post truth to be its

763
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,460
international word of the year.
Well, let's have a look at some

764
00:42:20,460 --> 00:42:23,130
of the other linguistic trends
from 2016.

765
00:42:24,180 --> 00:42:28,680
The new world deserves a new
word, post truth. It's Oxford

766
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,920
dictionary's word of the year,
and you'd better get used to it.

767
00:42:32,220 --> 00:42:36,420
It means Relating to or denoting
circumstances in which objective

768
00:42:36,420 --> 00:42:39,420
facts are less influential in
shaping public opinion than

769
00:42:39,420 --> 00:42:43,800
appeals to emotion and personal
belief. Basically, emotion beats

770
00:42:43,830 --> 00:42:45,600
truth. Here's an example.

771
00:42:45,720 --> 00:42:47,700
Unprecedented bombing. Look what
they've

772
00:42:47,700 --> 00:42:49,740
been doing to eastern Aleppo,
hundreds

773
00:42:50,010 --> 00:42:52,350
of people were killed. Many have
called

774
00:42:52,350 --> 00:42:56,430
a genocide. These children are
too young to know what it really

775
00:42:56,430 --> 00:42:58,110
feels like to be safe.

776
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,830
Pulling at your heartstrings,
rather than explaining a complex

777
00:43:01,830 --> 00:43:05,130
reality is what post truth
journalism seems to be about.

778
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:09,000
Most journalists and work in the
corporate media don't have any

779
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,820
resources to do any kind of
investigation, and in fact,

780
00:43:11,820 --> 00:43:13,380
don't want to do any
investigation.

781
00:43:13,620 --> 00:43:17,310
They'd rather echo the lies of
politicians as if they were the

782
00:43:17,310 --> 00:43:22,410
truth. This, this has got us
into situations like Libya, like

783
00:43:22,410 --> 00:43:26,850
Iraq, like Afghanistan, and he's
trying to scare us even more and

784
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:30,930
and grossed in the in the
quagmire that he's Libya. So

785
00:43:30,930 --> 00:43:34,950
he's the Syria. So we've
destroyed countries based on

786
00:43:34,950 --> 00:43:35,490
lies.

787
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,980
And this is gonna go on
journalists who put this

788
00:43:40,980 --> 00:43:43,590
together who put this together?
That was RT nice. I

789
00:43:43,589 --> 00:43:47,459
like it at the poll post. I
didn't realize I never

790
00:43:47,639 --> 00:43:50,969
interpreted post truth as for
mainstream journalism. Now, it

791
00:43:50,969 --> 00:43:52,199
makes a lot more sense.

792
00:43:52,710 --> 00:43:56,190
Yes, like, and they would they
went on his long piece they went

793
00:43:56,190 --> 00:43:59,190
on to, to discuss the fact that
the journalists don't have the

794
00:43:59,190 --> 00:44:01,830
resources to do investigative
reporting, and they don't really

795
00:44:01,830 --> 00:44:05,700
have the desire. And I think
when you just play proves it,

796
00:44:05,730 --> 00:44:10,140
yeah, they haven't even got the
desire to call trump up. When

797
00:44:10,140 --> 00:44:12,270
you know that he comes in and
they'll sit there because that's

798
00:44:12,270 --> 00:44:13,830
where they're working. They're
working out of the office, the

799
00:44:13,830 --> 00:44:17,010
big building in Manhattan. Yeah.
And they'll talk to him and then

800
00:44:17,010 --> 00:44:19,410
this and then afterwards, they
talk amongst themselves like

801
00:44:19,410 --> 00:44:22,860
that little podcast and talk
about things they could do or

802
00:44:22,860 --> 00:44:25,740
they could have done or then do
they'd rather just make it up as

803
00:44:25,740 --> 00:44:29,010
they go along and just everybody
wants to use it. But my thing

804
00:44:29,010 --> 00:44:31,380
was was everybody wants to be a
columnist

805
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:35,340
we you know what happens when
when journalists pursue the path

806
00:44:35,340 --> 00:44:39,720
of post truth they enter the the
era of post profit is what's

807
00:44:39,720 --> 00:44:40,380
going to happen

808
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:45,660
he said their dream that one up

809
00:44:45,660 --> 00:44:49,350
that chat room gave it to me,
I'll be honest, oh, that Chase

810
00:44:49,350 --> 00:44:49,740
stole

811
00:44:49,770 --> 00:44:51,150
from it. I didn't steal it.

812
00:44:51,150 --> 00:44:52,350
They're producing for me.

813
00:44:52,980 --> 00:44:54,630
It's producing.

814
00:44:55,470 --> 00:44:57,870
Now I do have another thing.
It's kind of an augment what

815
00:44:57,870 --> 00:45:00,270
actually is part two of this is
play. This is a little more or

816
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,090
is about the other meme. Okay.

817
00:45:03,570 --> 00:45:06,870
Another new concept that's being
used to describe our new reality

818
00:45:06,900 --> 00:45:10,350
is filter bubble. You can become
trapped in one by social media

819
00:45:10,380 --> 00:45:13,500
when algorithms have selectively
guessed what information you'd

820
00:45:13,500 --> 00:45:16,830
like to see. But there are also
way bigger bubbles than Facebook

821
00:45:16,830 --> 00:45:20,070
ones take the bubble, the
majority of us politicians,

822
00:45:20,070 --> 00:45:23,790
media outlets and pollsters got
themselves stuck in. During the

823
00:45:23,790 --> 00:45:27,120
presidential election campaign,
the idea of a Trump victory had

824
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:30,270
got completely filtered out. Of
course, they all thought Clinton

825
00:45:30,270 --> 00:45:33,660
would win. Which Republican
candidate has the best chance of

826
00:45:33,660 --> 00:45:43,380
winning the general election?
Right now? Donald Trump today is

827
00:45:43,380 --> 00:45:44,220
more likely to win

828
00:45:44,220 --> 00:45:47,010
or a Clinton's gonna win in a
landslide. We could be talking

829
00:45:47,010 --> 00:45:51,690
landslide and liberal media. So
upset, visibly upset about

830
00:45:51,690 --> 00:45:54,450
Donald Trump's victory. You're
awake,

831
00:45:54,450 --> 00:45:58,020
by the way. You're not having a
terrible, terrible dream. Also,

832
00:45:58,050 --> 00:46:01,110
you're not dead and you haven't
gone to hell. This is your life.

833
00:46:01,110 --> 00:46:04,350
Now. This is our election now.
It's real. It's real. It's real.

834
00:46:04,380 --> 00:46:05,610
It's real. It's real. What if
there

835
00:46:05,609 --> 00:46:08,279
was a place where the
unthinkable didn't happen? And

836
00:46:08,279 --> 00:46:11,219
life could continue for
progressive Americans just as

837
00:46:11,219 --> 00:46:11,699
before?

838
00:46:12,090 --> 00:46:16,920
Now there is welcome to the
bubble. The bubble is planned

839
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:20,130
community of like minded free
thinkers, and no one else. Well,

840
00:46:20,130 --> 00:46:20,310
not

841
00:46:20,310 --> 00:46:23,430
everyone got stuck in that
bubble. And some of them got

842
00:46:23,430 --> 00:46:24,510
their own word to

843
00:46:26,310 --> 00:46:30,090
I was good that Saturday Night
Live bubble. Pretty funny. That

844
00:46:30,090 --> 00:46:33,150
was pretty funny. Well, me all
along with this. Now we now of

845
00:46:33,150 --> 00:46:38,130
course have proper not, you've
probably seen this. Yeah. And by

846
00:46:38,130 --> 00:46:38,460
the way, when

847
00:46:38,670 --> 00:46:40,980
this is destroyed by the web
before you go into this, because

848
00:46:40,980 --> 00:46:44,430
I don't have really any clips on
it. Maybe I have one. This is

849
00:46:44,430 --> 00:46:49,830
the Washington Post. They ran
with this. And Marty Baron is

850
00:46:49,830 --> 00:46:52,590
the one who promoted Marty Baron
is the executive editor I

851
00:46:52,590 --> 00:46:57,300
believe of the Washington Post.
And this is the most shameful

852
00:46:57,300 --> 00:46:59,760
thing of the intercept. And
there's a link in the show notes

853
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:04,170
cuz I send you that. Yeah, he
did a takedown on this, but a

854
00:47:04,170 --> 00:47:07,140
bunch of other people did to the
Fortune magazine. This was a

855
00:47:07,140 --> 00:47:12,870
shameful this was shameful fake
news on the part of the

856
00:47:12,870 --> 00:47:15,720
Washington Post, which is just
doing this to an extreme. These

857
00:47:15,720 --> 00:47:18,900
guys are killing themselves.
This is Jeff Bezos.

858
00:47:18,990 --> 00:47:22,260
Yeah. Anyway,

859
00:47:22,530 --> 00:47:26,730
well, yes. You're gonna love
this. So the Washington Post did

860
00:47:26,730 --> 00:47:30,930
a long article about fake news,
of course. And they had a

861
00:47:30,930 --> 00:47:34,710
blacklist at a blacklist. The
blacklist comes from Prop or

862
00:47:34,710 --> 00:47:39,150
not.com, which stands for
propaganda or not, and they have

863
00:47:39,150 --> 00:47:43,470
the list now. I'm a little a
little insulted that we're not

864
00:47:43,470 --> 00:47:48,990
on the list, but okay. The the
people

865
00:47:49,020 --> 00:47:52,590
on there on the list are
ridiculous. Yeah, Zero Hedge.

866
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,340
Zero Hedge how they on the list.
Corbett Report.

867
00:47:56,940 --> 00:48:00,120
Hey, you may not be your cup of
tea, but not fake news.

868
00:48:01,980 --> 00:48:07,290
Let's see. What else do we have?
Yeah, just just the

869
00:48:07,470 --> 00:48:08,310
Ron Paul.

870
00:48:08,430 --> 00:48:11,580
Yeah. Ron Paul. Yeah, he's on
the right parts on the list.

871
00:48:11,580 --> 00:48:16,260
What what I found interesting,
is if you look at if you look at

872
00:48:16,260 --> 00:48:18,240
his website, then they have you
know, frequently asked

873
00:48:18,240 --> 00:48:22,050
questions. I guess it's under
that. They have allies, you see.

874
00:48:22,890 --> 00:48:26,040
So they talk a bit so they'll
really say who they are. So we

875
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:31,080
don't know who's behind this.
But they have the allies and

876
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:36,120
then their allies are Snopes
says right here on the website.

877
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:41,520
Yes. Our allies are Snopes and
belling cat. Okay. Well, you

878
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:48,030
could not have more anti Russian
bloggers involved in you're

879
00:48:48,060 --> 00:48:52,560
involved in your proper not?
This whole thing is, I think

880
00:48:52,590 --> 00:48:56,940
you're right is discussing the
posts even linked the story to

881
00:48:56,940 --> 00:49:00,510
this. This is really this has
nothing to do your domain name

882
00:49:00,510 --> 00:49:02,040
was just registered pretty much.

883
00:49:02,250 --> 00:49:06,660
Yeah, a few months ago. I mean,
the Washington Post obvious. I

884
00:49:06,660 --> 00:49:10,920
mean, these that is the fake
news operation. Not only that

885
00:49:11,220 --> 00:49:12,090
piece was fake.

886
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,760
It's a McCarthyism. John is
Neoma. McCarthyism.

887
00:49:15,209 --> 00:49:18,449
Well, there are a lot of people
who said that, but it's just a

888
00:49:18,449 --> 00:49:21,539
black list. I mean, black lists,
come and go. But well, it's

889
00:49:21,539 --> 00:49:24,149
ridiculous. These guys, the
British should be ashamed of

890
00:49:24,149 --> 00:49:26,039
themselves. The new The
Washington Post,

891
00:49:26,310 --> 00:49:31,830
and RT RT is on the list. Aren't
wars. So it really is about anti

892
00:49:31,830 --> 00:49:35,490
Russia. And this does have
consequences and it will have

893
00:49:35,490 --> 00:49:40,320
consequences, far reaching
consequences for Trump and his

894
00:49:41,070 --> 00:49:44,700
announced plans, and the only
guy who could tell us about that

895
00:49:44,700 --> 00:49:49,350
is of course Professor Steve
Cohen. Professor Emeritus of was

896
00:49:49,350 --> 00:49:49,620
a he

897
00:49:49,620 --> 00:49:51,360
should be on the list. She
should say.

898
00:49:52,650 --> 00:49:57,480
I'm surprised he's not actually.
Here is what he believes the

899
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,730
challenges will be that Trump
will have with Russia and

900
00:49:59,730 --> 00:50:03,330
one issue on which Trump was
very different from Mrs.

901
00:50:03,330 --> 00:50:06,630
Clinton, and from the whole
foreign policy establishment was

902
00:50:06,630 --> 00:50:11,670
on our relationship with Russia.
We now this is me speaking not

903
00:50:11,670 --> 00:50:16,920
Trump, are in a cold war, much
more dangerous than the 40, the

904
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:20,940
40 year Cold War that we thought
it ended. There are three places

905
00:50:20,940 --> 00:50:24,780
where Russia and America could
very easily, suddenly be in a

906
00:50:24,780 --> 00:50:28,590
hot war. That's the Baltic
regions that Ukraine and that's

907
00:50:28,590 --> 00:50:32,760
Syria. Trump has said that he
wants to do something about it

908
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:38,160
to improve it. What he said is
very fragmentary, but very

909
00:50:38,190 --> 00:50:41,400
different from what other people
have said. He says he wants to

910
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:44,850
work with President Putin. He
said he thinks it would be

911
00:50:44,850 --> 00:50:48,810
great. If Russia and the United
States United for years to fight

912
00:50:48,810 --> 00:50:53,400
terrorism in Syria. He hasn't
said anything about Ukraine. But

913
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:57,570
these are pressing issues. If
Trump were to move, and he

914
00:50:57,570 --> 00:51:01,050
shouldn't do this, publicly, he
should begin privately. But if

915
00:51:01,050 --> 00:51:05,820
he were to move toward a
detente, as we used to call it,

916
00:51:06,330 --> 00:51:11,430
a reduction of conflict in the
relationship with Russia, and to

917
00:51:11,430 --> 00:51:16,950
open cooperation, let's say in
Syria, he will find himself

918
00:51:17,610 --> 00:51:23,190
opposed by a fierce and powerful
pro Cold War, coalition,

919
00:51:23,370 --> 00:51:26,940
Democratic and Republican and
including the media here in the

920
00:51:26,940 --> 00:51:31,620
United States, he will have to
fight very hard. The other side

921
00:51:31,620 --> 00:51:36,240
of that story is, is that
foreign policy is the one area

922
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:41,430
where an American president can
do things pretty much on his

923
00:51:41,430 --> 00:51:44,460
own. He doesn't need
congressional support unless he

924
00:51:44,460 --> 00:51:48,480
wants a treaty. The question is,
Is Trump really going to do it?

925
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:53,460
And you might ask, Is President
Putin ready for this? I think,

926
00:51:53,820 --> 00:51:57,330
so let's but whether Trump will
now move, we'll say, because

927
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,540
remember what else happened?
Sophie, it's very bad. On the

928
00:52:00,540 --> 00:52:04,230
one hand, it was good, that
there was a little discussion of

929
00:52:04,230 --> 00:52:07,710
Russia in our presidential
campaigns. But the discussion

930
00:52:07,710 --> 00:52:12,270
was terrible. It was poisonous.
The Clinton campaign indulged in

931
00:52:12,270 --> 00:52:16,710
Neo McCarthyism, they accused
Trump and anybody who thought

932
00:52:16,710 --> 00:52:20,430
Trump had a good idea about
Russia policy of being puppets

933
00:52:20,430 --> 00:52:24,480
of the Kremlin. This is this is
beyond disgusting. We went

934
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:27,600
through this many years ago in
the United States, and damaged

935
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:31,710
our country very badly. I don't
know, the poison is in our

936
00:52:31,710 --> 00:52:36,630
political bloodstream. Will it
go away with Trump's victory? I

937
00:52:36,630 --> 00:52:40,770
doubt it. Therefore, Trump needs
supporters in this country who

938
00:52:40,770 --> 00:52:41,970
did not vote for him.

939
00:52:42,810 --> 00:52:44,310
So that's what you get when you

940
00:52:45,540 --> 00:52:47,970
know, it's going to be very
difficult. And it seems to me

941
00:52:47,970 --> 00:52:51,270
that the playbook has just been
pulled back out, right down to

942
00:52:51,270 --> 00:52:54,300
the youtubes. Flying again, if
you followed this in the news. I

943
00:52:54,300 --> 00:52:56,310
mean, we know one crash
remember, we talked about it?

944
00:52:56,670 --> 00:52:59,820
Right? Let's start this started
a while ago before? I mean, the

945
00:52:59,820 --> 00:53:03,240
YouTubes flying around? Yeah.
Why do you choose what to say?

946
00:53:03,510 --> 00:53:04,140
No, I

947
00:53:04,140 --> 00:53:08,580
think I think for one reason,
one reason only. It's a cold,

948
00:53:08,580 --> 00:53:12,960
it's the dragon lady. It's the
new you to then it's, I think

949
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:16,770
it's just to give an image of
the old Cold War. I mean, either

950
00:53:16,770 --> 00:53:21,000
that, or I did look to see if
there were some big buy if

951
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:24,930
Lockheed needed to sell a whole
bunch of them, because this is

952
00:53:24,930 --> 00:53:27,690
what the drones are supposed to
do. They're supposed to provide

953
00:53:28,020 --> 00:53:31,980
this, this aerial support. But
for some reason, we've got the

954
00:53:31,980 --> 00:53:34,530
YouTubes flying again, and the
only reason I can think is

955
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:38,970
related to imagery. The YouTubes
are flying again. Yes, Russia

956
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:40,230
Cold War Ha, bad.

957
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:45,330
Now, my understanding is they
have their outfitting YouTubes

958
00:53:45,330 --> 00:53:45,540
with the

959
00:53:45,540 --> 00:53:46,260
robots.

960
00:53:47,220 --> 00:53:49,680
Oh, I didn't know. Well, we'll
find out. Our guys will tell us.

961
00:53:49,950 --> 00:53:51,870
So do you mean turn them into
drones?

962
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:57,270
Yeah. Because it goes so high.
Yeah. 70,000 feet? 80,000 feet?

963
00:53:57,270 --> 00:54:00,300
Yeah, it's crazy. You can't do
that with just a drone. They

964
00:54:00,300 --> 00:54:00,960
know it's not enough.

965
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:07,260
Then this short, little clip
clip from Colin, very

966
00:54:07,260 --> 00:54:11,910
disturbing, key. He has an idea
of what may be playing out

967
00:54:11,910 --> 00:54:15,390
before the new administration
comes into the White House,

968
00:54:15,810 --> 00:54:20,700
regarding Obama and Putin what
kind of deal they might make.

969
00:54:20,700 --> 00:54:23,220
And I think we should take this
one serious Obama

970
00:54:23,220 --> 00:54:27,930
and Putin and their advisors
because neither man proceeds

971
00:54:27,930 --> 00:54:31,050
without consultation with his
military intelligence and

972
00:54:31,050 --> 00:54:34,830
political AIDS. And yes, there
is a politics around Putin. He

973
00:54:34,830 --> 00:54:38,880
has a problem politically in
Moscow. In a word, the ultra

974
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:43,620
nationalists are convinced that
Putin is about to sell out

975
00:54:43,620 --> 00:54:48,570
Ukraine in return for Syria.
With Obama. They have this view

976
00:54:48,570 --> 00:54:52,380
that Putin is not a resolute
leader, and that he will give up

977
00:54:52,380 --> 00:54:57,060
their ethnic country men and
women in Donbass in Ukraine in

978
00:54:57,060 --> 00:55:01,680
return for protecting Assad and
Russia roll in Syria, that will

979
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,620
not happen. But that's a real
politics in Moscow.

980
00:55:04,890 --> 00:55:07,320
I like that now he says it's not
gonna happen, but I don't know.

981
00:55:08,700 --> 00:55:10,830
I didn't know No. And I didn't
know that Putin had some

982
00:55:10,830 --> 00:55:12,900
pressure going on regarding
that. So that's what people

983
00:55:12,900 --> 00:55:15,780
think of Putin. You rarely hear
these things rarely.

984
00:55:16,380 --> 00:55:19,350
Never hear him and call and they
keep them off the air.

985
00:55:20,790 --> 00:55:23,970
Actually, oh, I have the I have
the YouTube clip here. This was

986
00:55:23,970 --> 00:55:26,460
on CNN. I'm telling you
something going on with this.

987
00:55:26,550 --> 00:55:29,400
They got special access. This is
supposed to be this top secret

988
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:33,510
spy plane. But no, CNN is in the
cockpit. They got a lot of stock

989
00:55:33,510 --> 00:55:36,510
footage too, you know, but they
gave him the stock footage, a

990
00:55:36,510 --> 00:55:37,920
whole piece fighting

991
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:42,690
ISIS in a spacesuit. We can only
identify the pilot by his first

992
00:55:42,690 --> 00:55:47,730
name Captain Steven, and by his
callsign meathead. He's about to

993
00:55:47,730 --> 00:55:50,430
account on a high altitude
reconnaissance mission

994
00:55:50,430 --> 00:55:54,420
technique, your best spy plane,
we weren't given rare access to

995
00:55:54,420 --> 00:55:57,810
the preparations launch and
landing have one of these highly

996
00:55:57,810 --> 00:56:01,380
secretive missions that have a
clear objective, one of the

997
00:56:01,380 --> 00:56:02,310
pilots tells me

998
00:56:03,240 --> 00:56:05,730
with the YouTube we're able to
get out there find those guys

999
00:56:05,730 --> 00:56:08,310
travel, get that information
back to the fighter types, the

1000
00:56:08,310 --> 00:56:10,560
bomber types, so that way, when
they go out there, they've got

1001
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:13,530
the best Intel best information
about where they where they are,

1002
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:15,240
and then obviously do what needs
to be done.

1003
00:56:15,990 --> 00:56:20,430
The YouTube can fly extremely
high within 70,000 feet and get

1004
00:56:20,430 --> 00:56:23,940
pictures and other information
to forces on the ground very

1005
00:56:23,940 --> 00:56:29,040
fast. It's a Cold War airplane
flying since the 1950s. But its

1006
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:33,210
cameras and sensors have been
completely upgraded. With its

1007
00:56:33,210 --> 00:56:36,540
many technological upgrades. The
YouTube dragon lady remains one

1008
00:56:36,540 --> 00:56:39,840
of America's main assets in the
information gathering effort

1009
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:43,320
against ISIS. But of course,
intelligence gathering happens

1010
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:46,500
on many levels. And much of it
happens through drones like this

1011
00:56:46,500 --> 00:56:49,920
Global Hawk, which patrols in
the skies above Iraq and Syria

1012
00:56:50,010 --> 00:56:53,520
almost every day. The
information from these

1013
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:57,270
surveillance platforms is key to
helping jets from the US led

1014
00:56:57,300 --> 00:57:01,470
anti ISIS coalition strike their
targets and supportive Forces

1015
00:57:01,470 --> 00:57:04,830
Combat in the group on the
ground in places like Mosul in

1016
00:57:04,830 --> 00:57:09,030
Iraq. But while the YouTube can
soar higher than almost any

1017
00:57:09,030 --> 00:57:13,590
other plane, it's pretty hard to
land. We're in a chase car that

1018
00:57:13,590 --> 00:57:17,310
speeds after the jet helping to
guide the pilot to the ground

1019
00:57:17,430 --> 00:57:24,420
after an almost 10 hour mission.
Nice John. Feeling himself out

1020
00:57:24,420 --> 00:57:27,960
of the cockpit Captain Stephen
says he believes that you too is

1021
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:29,520
making a major impact

1022
00:57:29,850 --> 00:57:32,280
things that we can do while
we're up there, as well as how

1023
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:34,140
often we're up there to be
thanks to the maintenance guys.

1024
00:57:34,140 --> 00:57:34,260
We

1025
00:57:34,260 --> 00:57:37,740
are costly up there, providing
support for those who need the

1026
00:57:37,740 --> 00:57:38,250
most.

1027
00:57:38,730 --> 00:57:41,430
And the need for the YouTube
services will remain in high

1028
00:57:41,430 --> 00:57:45,600
demand. While ISIS may be losing
ground, the group remains both

1029
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:46,230
deadly

1030
00:57:46,380 --> 00:57:52,020
and elusive. To me that sounded
like a sales job. And it didn't

1031
00:57:52,020 --> 00:57:53,790
sound right now. No,

1032
00:57:54,030 --> 00:57:56,820
there was a Brian the gay
Crusader actually alerted me to

1033
00:57:56,820 --> 00:58:00,690
that and said This is weird.
This is a strange strange goings

1034
00:58:00,690 --> 00:58:01,020
on.

1035
00:58:01,770 --> 00:58:03,360
Yeah, I'm not quite sure

1036
00:58:03,690 --> 00:58:07,920
to say too many crazy things to
say in there the things from the

1037
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:11,370
50s but now it's all upgraded is
ready to sell. You can buy one

1038
00:58:11,370 --> 00:58:12,870
too. That's a must be

1039
00:58:12,990 --> 00:58:16,170
Buy Now while stocks last.
That's what I thought this time.

1040
00:58:16,470 --> 00:58:19,110
And I know what it sounds like.
I mean, it sounds to me also the

1041
00:58:19,110 --> 00:58:21,750
report itself makes it sound
like a useless piece of old

1042
00:58:21,750 --> 00:58:22,320
gear.

1043
00:58:22,980 --> 00:58:27,510
Is it Lockheed jet month? Are
they doing the? Like Texas Truck

1044
00:58:27,510 --> 00:58:28,080
Month open

1045
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:29,520
house? I'm not sure maybe.

1046
00:58:30,780 --> 00:58:34,500
There we go. When we're talking
about Russia. We got gang.

1047
00:58:37,530 --> 00:58:41,370
Everybody, we have the best
Archie reporter on the case at

1048
00:58:41,370 --> 00:58:47,130
the State Department guy in
ticket con. And she has a

1049
00:58:47,130 --> 00:58:51,240
question specifically for John
Kirby. This is the clip that I

1050
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:53,430
started to play the other day
and it was the wrong clip.

1051
00:58:53,430 --> 00:58:55,020
And you lost it. Yeah, yeah.

1052
00:58:55,170 --> 00:59:00,840
All right. This is about the
NATO build up. So more Russia.

1053
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:04,830
And while she gets the typical
brush off from Kirby, you know,

1054
00:59:04,830 --> 00:59:06,450
Matt Lee actually came to her
defense.

1055
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,990
Do you have a question? On your?
Yeah, go ahead, guys. Today, you

1056
00:59:09,990 --> 00:59:12,600
said Russia's deployment of
missiles to its cleaning up

1057
00:59:12,690 --> 00:59:15,750
Kaliningrad region is
destabilizing to European

1058
00:59:15,750 --> 00:59:19,740
security. Do you think the
largest buildup of NATO forces

1059
00:59:19,740 --> 00:59:22,800
near the Russian border since
the end of the Cold War? And the

1060
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:25,320
deployment of the missile
defense system which Russia sees

1061
00:59:25,350 --> 00:59:29,100
as designed to contain Russia
have in no way contributed to

1062
00:59:29,100 --> 00:59:34,230
the environment in? She's
pointing to these things that's

1063
00:59:34,230 --> 00:59:37,620
contributing to his actions. Do
you think those those things

1064
00:59:37,620 --> 00:59:41,490
have in no way contributed to
the environment in which the

1065
00:59:41,490 --> 00:59:43,950
sense of alliances it's always
been defensive alliance? It

1066
00:59:43,950 --> 00:59:46,530
remains a defensive alliance.
There's no reason why Russia

1067
00:59:46,530 --> 00:59:51,270
should view NATO in any way
shape or form as a threat. Now,

1068
00:59:51,300 --> 00:59:53,910
if they do, they can speak to
that not me, do you think do you

1069
00:59:53,910 --> 00:59:57,210
think that troop build up in
near Russia and the defense

1070
00:59:57,210 --> 01:00:01,920
system near Russia helped lower
tensions with Russia, again,

1071
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:05,100
NATO is a defensive alliance
always has been. There's no

1072
01:00:05,100 --> 01:00:07,710
reason for anybody in Russia to
feel threatened by

1073
01:00:07,740 --> 01:00:09,840
NATO's to build up

1074
01:00:11,639 --> 01:00:14,579
military activities or
preparations. I will tell you

1075
01:00:14,579 --> 01:00:19,649
just in terms of recent months
and years, there would have been

1076
01:00:19,649 --> 01:00:26,969
no reason for NATO to advance
and and commit additional

1077
01:00:26,969 --> 01:00:30,419
capabilities on the European
continent to include American

1078
01:00:30,419 --> 01:00:34,619
capabilities had it not been for
Russia's move in Ukraine.

1079
01:00:34,650 --> 01:00:39,240
Okay. Because Russia's fault,
always Russia's fault. So they

1080
01:00:39,270 --> 01:00:41,550
they did the build up in
Ukraine. And that's why we are

1081
01:00:41,550 --> 01:00:45,180
defensively just putting all
these missiles on Russia's

1082
01:00:45,180 --> 01:00:48,630
border. Okay. And Matt Lee came
to a rescue to some degree

1083
01:00:49,260 --> 01:00:51,840
to briefly done the missile
defense in the Europe question.

1084
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:56,220
Yeah. And this is something that
has actually not at first for a

1085
01:00:56,220 --> 01:00:59,340
year, and I just can't wait
here. So yeah, but I'm not going

1086
01:00:59,340 --> 01:01:01,560
to be a rambling thing I just
want if

1087
01:01:02,279 --> 01:01:05,009
you guys, I love how he says
that. But I'm not going to

1088
01:01:05,009 --> 01:01:07,799
ramble, like I usually do. But
as I've been bugging me for a

1089
01:01:07,799 --> 01:01:10,619
year. Alright, so you can hear
everyone in the press growing

1090
01:01:11,759 --> 01:01:12,989
really madly. You

1091
01:01:12,990 --> 01:01:16,470
guys sold this it? So the whole
idea of missile defense, it was

1092
01:01:16,470 --> 01:01:19,080
always pointed. Even the last
administration always pointed to

1093
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:24,060
Iran with the threat. If and
then the Russians, the Russians

1094
01:01:24,060 --> 01:01:27,120
shouldn't worry about it. But if
the Iran deal is such a huge

1095
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:32,640
success, as you say it is. Why
is it still necessary because

1096
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:33,150
Iran

1097
01:01:33,150 --> 01:01:35,400
continues to pursue ballistic
missile capabilities.

1098
01:01:36,060 --> 01:01:38,850
He's putting him in a great trap
here. So wait a minute, let me

1099
01:01:38,850 --> 01:01:41,430
if I understand the whole deal
with Iran was they wouldn't have

1100
01:01:41,460 --> 01:01:44,430
nuclear capability. Who are
these missiles for them? Because

1101
01:01:44,430 --> 01:01:46,770
they're always for Iran. But we
have the deal. How Why do we

1102
01:01:46,770 --> 01:01:50,130
need Iran? Well, because they're
a holes. You sure it's not for

1103
01:01:50,130 --> 01:01:50,670
Russia?

1104
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:55,950
You guys got into the deal that
the ballistic missile, you

1105
01:01:55,950 --> 01:01:58,740
bragged about it? And at the
time that you kept the ballistic

1106
01:01:58,740 --> 01:02:02,430
missile right about anything
that oh, well, you said it was a

1107
01:02:02,430 --> 01:02:05,040
success that you got the bullet
that that would say that

1108
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:05,460
sickness, I

1109
01:02:05,460 --> 01:02:07,650
would say that's facts, sharing,
bragging.

1110
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:12,690
I was just facts sharing about
my huge launch on

1111
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:16,410
ballistic missile Orion

1112
01:02:16,860 --> 01:02:21,420
to pursue ballistic missile
capabilities. And and so we

1113
01:02:21,420 --> 01:02:24,270
continue to believe in the value
of missile defense.

1114
01:02:25,530 --> 01:02:29,250
Days say that they are still
banned from doing ballistic

1115
01:02:29,250 --> 01:02:32,430
missile activity, right for
eight years, seven years now.

1116
01:02:33,330 --> 01:02:37,230
It is certainly part of the
deal, but will be but we have to

1117
01:02:37,410 --> 01:02:40,380
Well, if the if the if the
missile defense system that you

1118
01:02:40,380 --> 01:02:46,200
want to put in Europe is aimed
at only Iran, why would you not

1119
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:50,730
want to make it not necessary?
And why wouldn't you have pushed

1120
01:02:50,730 --> 01:02:54,030
hard to keep the ballistic
missile restrictions in place?

1121
01:02:54,150 --> 01:02:55,380
I'm not going to read it again.

1122
01:02:55,410 --> 01:02:59,100
Do we continue to leave our
defense on the continent because

1123
01:02:59,100 --> 01:03:02,070
Iran continues to pursue
ballistic missile capabilities?

1124
01:03:02,130 --> 01:03:05,130
Yeah, sure. We have an ISO of a
Kirby's brain during this

1125
01:03:05,130 --> 01:03:05,640
question.

1126
01:03:07,500 --> 01:03:12,540
Anybody during this after the
Russian girl made her

1127
01:03:12,540 --> 01:03:16,800
commentary? And he went on about
the NATO being defensive and

1128
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:18,540
they never done anything that
was what would do. They would

1129
01:03:18,540 --> 01:03:22,500
bring up the Libya thing, which
was a NATO led coalition. Its

1130
01:03:22,500 --> 01:03:26,370
defensive on the crap out of
Libya and destabilize the area.

1131
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:27,330
That was NATO.

1132
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:30,720
I said John C. Dvorak for press
corps. What I say,

1133
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:37,950
of course, of course, was that
defensive. Was Libya attacking

1134
01:03:38,010 --> 01:03:38,610
Italy?

1135
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:43,560
It was well it was they were
they were attacking interests.

1136
01:03:44,550 --> 01:03:47,970
Interests. John, they weren't
Yes, they were. Oh, yes, they

1137
01:03:47,970 --> 01:03:52,920
were at interests, the United
States and Ally interests,

1138
01:03:52,980 --> 01:03:56,460
namely the French who begged us
to go in there and kill Gadhafi.

1139
01:03:57,300 --> 01:03:57,750
That's what

1140
01:03:57,750 --> 01:04:01,620
was what we did. We did what we
did, but I don't see that being

1141
01:04:01,620 --> 01:04:02,670
defensive.

1142
01:04:03,450 --> 01:04:06,900
The whole it's not defensive. I
have this is the last one I got.

1143
01:04:06,930 --> 01:04:10,770
While we're on NATO. This is
Yen's what's his name? The NATO

1144
01:04:10,770 --> 01:04:16,590
guy. Ian's true murder, robbery.
Yeah, interesting little

1145
01:04:16,590 --> 01:04:20,340
thoughts on NATO. NATO Secretary
General says the time is right

1146
01:04:20,340 --> 01:04:24,630
for Europe to boost defense
spending. Jens Stoltenberg was

1147
01:04:24,630 --> 01:04:27,750
speaking ahead of a meeting of
EU foreign ministers in

1148
01:04:27,750 --> 01:04:31,650
Brussels. The former Norwegian
Premier said US President Elect

1149
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:34,980
Donald Trump was right to ask
Europeans to do more.

1150
01:04:35,009 --> 01:04:36,599
Oh, really, the strong NATO

1151
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:41,130
is important for Europe, but
it's also important for the

1152
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:45,600
United States. He also pointed
out the importance of increased

1153
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:49,230
defense spending that Europeans
are stepping up their efforts to

1154
01:04:49,230 --> 01:04:52,200
invest more in defense and I
absolutely agree with him. That

1155
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:56,100
has been the message from
American leaders, US leaders for

1156
01:04:56,130 --> 01:04:59,400
many years. And the good thing
is that we now see that

1157
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:02,070
Europeans are actually investing
more in defense.

1158
01:05:02,490 --> 01:05:05,940
Trump called into question
NATO's collective defense pacts

1159
01:05:05,940 --> 01:05:09,450
during his campaign, casting
doubt over whether the US would

1160
01:05:09,450 --> 01:05:13,170
step in and help those who are
not meeting the 2% of GDP

1161
01:05:13,170 --> 01:05:17,790
defense spending target. Current
commander in chief Barack Obama

1162
01:05:17,790 --> 01:05:21,330
has moved to reassure Europeans
that Trump will honor the

1163
01:05:21,330 --> 01:05:25,770
country's NATO commitments. The
Alliance was set up after the

1164
01:05:25,770 --> 01:05:29,520
Second World War, and has since
become a cornerstone of the

1165
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:33,300
global security architecture.
But currently, only five

1166
01:05:33,300 --> 01:05:37,440
countries meet NATO's own
defense spending benchmarks.

1167
01:05:37,470 --> 01:05:40,800
Oh, okay. Gee, maybe Trump had a
point.

1168
01:05:42,540 --> 01:05:44,790
I got some for the Red Book,
though. I know we can put in

1169
01:05:44,790 --> 01:05:47,790
there. All right. What Yeah,
with the, you know, with the

1170
01:05:47,790 --> 01:05:51,060
NATO issues with Europe,
starting its own army, they're

1171
01:05:51,060 --> 01:05:54,120
still just trying to vote on the
headquarters. Here in the Red

1172
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:56,490
Book. I can tell you right now
Europe, and it's kind of

1173
01:05:56,520 --> 01:06:00,510
interesting. In light of the SNL
skit, Europe will receive Iron

1174
01:06:00,510 --> 01:06:00,990
Dome

1175
01:06:01,980 --> 01:06:03,690
to protect them from evil
Russia.

1176
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:08,520
The same Iron Dome that
apparently is in place in

1177
01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:11,910
same crappy Iron Dome, it barely
works anymore. If it works at

1178
01:06:11,910 --> 01:06:16,950
all. Yeah, in Israel, they can
barely say, protect one city

1179
01:06:16,980 --> 01:06:18,330
sale at Iron Dome.

1180
01:06:18,330 --> 01:06:20,370
So it sounds like a sales
Bonanza to me.

1181
01:06:21,390 --> 01:06:24,060
You hit the button or you said
yeah, maybe it's gonna be a

1182
01:06:24,060 --> 01:06:27,090
tough sell. I don't think
they're that stupid. Well, I'm

1183
01:06:27,090 --> 01:06:29,340
glad you're up. I would like an
entry in the book.

1184
01:06:30,150 --> 01:06:32,040
I'd say I just wrote it down.
Okay.

1185
01:06:32,790 --> 01:06:37,710
And I put I put a smiley face.
Okay. Well, with that out one

1186
01:06:37,710 --> 01:06:40,740
last clip before we dig a break.
That still has some to do with

1187
01:06:40,740 --> 01:06:43,530
this because I just want to
remind people that most of what

1188
01:06:43,530 --> 01:06:48,870
we witnesses is historically,
you know, it's not new. No. And

1189
01:06:48,870 --> 01:06:52,290
there was a very interesting and
there's a quote within this

1190
01:06:52,290 --> 01:06:56,130
little little spiel, this is
John Dickerson, the guy on CBS

1191
01:06:56,130 --> 01:07:00,600
does Face the Nation, who I like
he's a very calm guy seems to be

1192
01:07:00,630 --> 01:07:03,840
pretty neutral. And when he
does, he doesn't get Obviously

1193
01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:07,500
he's not slanting things too
much one way or the other. And

1194
01:07:07,500 --> 01:07:09,600
he did a book. He's done a book
recently. I don't know the name

1195
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:12,360
of it, but he was being
interviewed on C span book TV,

1196
01:07:12,990 --> 01:07:18,180
to told me to listen to so I
did. Yeah. And this is a very

1197
01:07:18,210 --> 01:07:21,570
interesting the clip is that he
made they're talking about

1198
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:26,010
Andrew Jackson, and apparently
is a very, there's a lot of

1199
01:07:26,010 --> 01:07:30,270
correlation between Andrew
Jackson and Donald Trump. Yes,

1200
01:07:30,270 --> 01:07:33,210
I've been reading these things,
too. Yeah, this is like a meme

1201
01:07:33,270 --> 01:07:35,700
going around. I think this guy I
think Dickerson's got a lot to

1202
01:07:35,700 --> 01:07:39,360
do with it, because it's in his
book it is. But there's one

1203
01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:42,090
little gotcha in here that we're
one little Zinger in here that I

1204
01:07:42,090 --> 01:07:45,450
thought was well worth repeating
and then listening to unless

1205
01:07:45,450 --> 01:07:46,170
listen to this.

1206
01:07:46,410 --> 01:07:48,540
Back and forth. Yeah, I

1207
01:07:48,540 --> 01:07:51,330
still don't know what the clip
is, though. With Clarence page.

1208
01:07:51,330 --> 01:07:55,800
It's with Clarence pages called
Jackson Trump parison. Gotcha

1209
01:07:55,860 --> 01:08:00,450
reserve, or it's the Washington
lawmakers or it's the mortgage

1210
01:08:00,450 --> 01:08:06,450
backed security, hucksters. All
are people whose bad decision

1211
01:08:06,450 --> 01:08:11,490
making savaged the lives of
people who weren't a part of the

1212
01:08:11,490 --> 01:08:14,520
initial decisions that were
made. And so that when I'm

1213
01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:18,630
reading about Jackson and his
feeling about the National Bank,

1214
01:08:19,740 --> 01:08:24,810
you really feel you. It feels
very, very, very modern, in

1215
01:08:24,810 --> 01:08:28,350
terms of the anger at people who
are making economic decisions

1216
01:08:28,350 --> 01:08:29,640
that are ruining your life.

1217
01:08:29,849 --> 01:08:33,179
I'll put his running Donald
Trump's speeches there. The

1218
01:08:33,179 --> 01:08:36,149
language keeps coming back in
these different periods of time.

1219
01:08:36,689 --> 01:08:40,229
But what does that say about the
American character?

1220
01:08:40,260 --> 01:08:43,650
Well, you know, it's funny, you
mentioned, Donald Trump and

1221
01:08:43,650 --> 01:08:46,470
Andrew Jackson and Andrew
Jackson said by their abuse,

1222
01:08:46,470 --> 01:08:49,650
they shall elect me, which is
basically talking about the

1223
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:52,980
writers at the time, right, much
the same way that Donald Trump

1224
01:08:52,980 --> 01:08:58,350
plays off of and uses the
traditional media as a foil and

1225
01:08:58,350 --> 01:09:02,610
says, you know, and benefits
from when the New York Times

1226
01:09:02,610 --> 01:09:05,220
writes something negative about
him. That helps him with his

1227
01:09:05,220 --> 01:09:08,460
constituency. Now, there's some
trickiness with the the general

1228
01:09:08,460 --> 01:09:12,540
electorate because because, you
know, there are some people who

1229
01:09:12,540 --> 01:09:15,660
still trust with the New York
Times writes who were in the

1230
01:09:15,660 --> 01:09:17,400
electorate. No kidding.

1231
01:09:18,690 --> 01:09:22,890
By their abuse, they shall elect
Musa Jackson said, and it was

1232
01:09:22,890 --> 01:09:26,700
exhausting was the exact same
situation, because every time

1233
01:09:26,700 --> 01:09:30,420
then people kept saying, oh, in
fact, the post cover that was in

1234
01:09:30,420 --> 01:09:33,180
the last newsletter at the
bottom of all those pictures,

1235
01:09:33,900 --> 01:09:38,730
the New York Post says off he
again he he he said that John

1236
01:09:38,730 --> 01:09:42,330
McCain's not a patriot, he's
done. He's done kiss him,

1237
01:09:42,330 --> 01:09:46,560
goodbye. Yeah. It was just
everything that Trump did these

1238
01:09:46,590 --> 01:09:49,260
there was the newspapers and
they've been some of the lies.

1239
01:09:49,260 --> 01:09:52,500
It's almost like the 99% thing
that we talked about earlier

1240
01:09:52,500 --> 01:09:57,630
show where you you just come in
and poor comes out and just lies

1241
01:09:57,630 --> 01:10:01,080
Yeah, lies that 99% of every
Nobody believes in climate

1242
01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:04,890
change. However scientists so
when it's not true, and it just

1243
01:10:04,890 --> 01:10:08,040
makes people turn against you,
the question

1244
01:10:08,070 --> 01:10:14,880
I have is when she says that, is
that because she heard a number

1245
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:18,090
and thought it was high enough,
and she can just say this? Does

1246
01:10:18,090 --> 01:10:21,000
she not have the moral fiber to
repeat

1247
01:10:21,630 --> 01:10:25,560
the the bogus number to begin
with?

1248
01:10:26,820 --> 01:10:34,200
Or is it? Is it just so? She's
so delusional, that it is deemed

1249
01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:37,080
okay to exaggerate to make the
point?

1250
01:10:38,580 --> 01:10:42,180
The question is, is she
exaggerating or sincerely thinks

1251
01:10:42,180 --> 01:10:44,010
is 99%? Or yeah,

1252
01:10:44,490 --> 01:10:47,310
because you're accusing maybe
97% You're accusing her of

1253
01:10:47,310 --> 01:10:52,440
lying? And my if she is lying,
well, is lying need

1254
01:10:52,440 --> 01:10:55,500
to have intent to lie,

1255
01:10:55,980 --> 01:10:59,550
acting like Comey. Well, I am up
for the Jive you know, I

1256
01:10:59,550 --> 01:11:02,130
don't think so. I think a lie is
a lie. If you repeat the line,

1257
01:11:02,130 --> 01:11:05,070
you're sincerely believe it's
true, or is it a post still a

1258
01:11:05,070 --> 01:11:09,600
lie? It doesn't become not a
lie. Because you do think it's

1259
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:13,740
true. I mean, yeah, it's fine.
You're sincere. Sincerity is not

1260
01:11:13,740 --> 01:11:15,540
the question. Lying is Hold on.

1261
01:11:15,570 --> 01:11:24,030
I'll move move just to take a
look at the definition. Here we

1262
01:11:24,030 --> 01:11:29,100
go. A false statement made with
deliberate intent to deceive.

1263
01:11:30,900 --> 01:11:33,030
Okay, well, then your points
will take an

1264
01:11:33,030 --> 01:11:33,900
intentional I'm

1265
01:11:33,990 --> 01:11:38,460
not lying a false when you're. I
think she's lying. By the way,

1266
01:11:38,700 --> 01:11:41,010
no matter what. I think it was
deliberate. Right?

1267
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:43,500
Well, so that okay, I'll take
that. But then it goes right

1268
01:11:43,500 --> 01:11:48,330
into my next question. Is she
lying deliberately? Because once

1269
01:11:48,450 --> 01:11:51,720
this has been agreed to the
sciences in it really doesn't

1270
01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:54,870
matter what you say? Because
it's just the fact to her it is

1271
01:11:54,870 --> 01:11:59,160
fact there's no denying that she
believes that. She believes that

1272
01:11:59,160 --> 01:11:59,700
it's crazy.

1273
01:11:59,700 --> 01:12:01,770
By the definition, she's not
lying.

1274
01:12:04,530 --> 01:12:05,490
We need a definition

1275
01:12:05,490 --> 01:12:08,010
definition that they you just
looked up and I'm glad you did.

1276
01:12:09,030 --> 01:12:12,420
She's not lying because she's
not deliberate. She she maybe

1277
01:12:12,420 --> 01:12:19,140
she okay. She's a lunatic. He's
not lying. And the fact that

1278
01:12:19,140 --> 01:12:23,700
she's not lying when she says
99% I mean, it's worse. I'm in

1279
01:12:23,700 --> 01:12:33,150
job. She's not lying. She's just
a lunatic. The Siam says. And

1280
01:12:33,330 --> 01:12:36,270
with that, I'd like to thank you
for your courage and say in the

1281
01:12:36,270 --> 01:12:41,280
morning to you, John C. or the C
stands for Cold War survivor.

1282
01:12:41,310 --> 01:12:42,840
Devorah. AK

1283
01:12:42,900 --> 01:12:45,600
and meningiomas. Sir Mr. Adam
curry in the morning all ships

1284
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:48,720
and sea boots on the ground feed
near subs in the water all the

1285
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:49,980
names and nights out there in

1286
01:12:49,980 --> 01:12:52,650
the morning to the chat room. No
agenda stream.com. Good to see

1287
01:12:52,650 --> 01:12:55,710
y'all there. Thanks for the help
in the morning to avoid zero

1288
01:12:55,950 --> 01:12:59,430
vortex. And of course in the
morning to our artists,

1289
01:12:59,490 --> 01:13:03,840
especially amateur ama th er
ammeter, who brought us the

1290
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:11,610
artwork for episode 880 that was
promised to prosecute. And he

1291
01:13:11,610 --> 01:13:15,240
brought us now I wondered
because I saw this image in

1292
01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:18,210
other places. Did he just
grabbed this and not put

1293
01:13:18,270 --> 01:13:21,000
Hillary's head on the turkey?
Could we didn't check it. We

1294
01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:23,460
just thought doesn't that was

1295
01:13:23,460 --> 01:13:25,800
an easy fix. You can put a
Hillary's head on the turkey.

1296
01:13:25,830 --> 01:13:28,920
I haven't feeling he may have
not done that himself. I'm not

1297
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:29,310
sure.

1298
01:13:29,370 --> 01:13:32,430
Oh, can I send it that way he
has to be repulsed?

1299
01:13:34,890 --> 01:13:37,740
Because I saw someone else tweet
the same image like oh, did they

1300
01:13:37,740 --> 01:13:39,630
grab that from us? Unlike Well,
I

1301
01:13:39,630 --> 01:13:41,670
will do a search afterwards. And
then we'll pull it,

1302
01:13:41,910 --> 01:13:45,750
pull it, pull it pull it, pull
it. You're not

1303
01:13:45,750 --> 01:13:48,870
allowed to see it. You can you
can repurpose stuff if you

1304
01:13:48,870 --> 01:13:53,220
change it substantially. And but
generally speaking, we like

1305
01:13:53,220 --> 01:13:58,200
original stuff, original ideas
and original art. And we do so

1306
01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:01,590
we want. I didn't I didn't think
about because I looked at it and

1307
01:14:01,590 --> 01:14:04,680
it was so kind of like looked
like it was something someone

1308
01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:08,070
would do at the end of the show
quickly. Quick. hack job. No

1309
01:14:08,070 --> 01:14:10,980
offense. Yeah. But it was the
way they typically come in when

1310
01:14:10,980 --> 01:14:13,980
there's just a funny gag. Yeah,
and it related to everything we

1311
01:14:13,980 --> 01:14:14,760
talked about in the show

1312
01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:17,850
Hillary, it was perfect art.
There was nothing wrong with the

1313
01:14:17,850 --> 01:14:19,320
art. It's just, ya know,

1314
01:14:19,350 --> 01:14:23,190
that the idea of why it was
dynamite? Yeah. Okay, okay,

1315
01:14:23,190 --> 01:14:26,100
well, maybe not. Who knows? It's
just that Yeah.

1316
01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:30,690
It's okay. We appreciate it. No
agenda are generated are calm. I

1317
01:14:30,690 --> 01:14:32,610
know everyone does their best.
So it's okay. It's all

1318
01:14:32,610 --> 01:14:34,950
appreciated. This is how it
works. The value for value

1319
01:14:34,950 --> 01:14:40,560
model, we have no advertising,
despite the deluge of emails and

1320
01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:46,950
tweets, when I was looking for a
pen on Thursday, and John

1321
01:14:46,950 --> 01:14:48,990
started talking about his
favorite pen.

1322
01:14:50,070 --> 01:14:51,330
That's not a native ad.

1323
01:14:53,250 --> 01:14:56,070
We're getting money. Where's the
money? Yeah. How's it a native

1324
01:14:56,070 --> 01:15:00,780
ad if we're not getting any cash
from Paper Mate? We didn't even

1325
01:15:00,780 --> 01:15:04,080
get a free pen. Oh, so anyone
who says that's a native ad can

1326
01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:08,250
shove it. We have products that
we like I have a wine suggestion

1327
01:15:08,250 --> 01:15:11,640
for today. But heaven forbid I
give it out because it would be

1328
01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:15,840
considered a native ad. Yeah. So
you don't want wine suggestions?

1329
01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:18,780
You don't want pen suggestions
you don't want. Software

1330
01:15:18,780 --> 01:15:21,480
suggests you don't want any
suggestions whatsoever. Here's

1331
01:15:21,480 --> 01:15:23,910
the sad part of the job. Tell me
who that was. I'm taking them

1332
01:15:23,910 --> 01:15:24,870
off the mailing list.

1333
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:28,650
Oh, there's a lot of people.
Okay, all

1334
01:15:28,650 --> 01:15:30,300
of them should be removed. They
shouldn't even listen to the

1335
01:15:30,300 --> 01:15:30,600
show.

1336
01:15:30,810 --> 01:15:37,560
So here's the problem. He Oh, he
people have been so mind

1337
01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:41,370
controlled. With ads. And I have
to say, if you look at Jimmy

1338
01:15:41,370 --> 01:15:43,830
Kimmel show, you know, sometimes
they have little bits of

1339
01:15:43,830 --> 01:15:46,440
Saturday Night Live is doing it.
And they're funny and their ads

1340
01:15:46,440 --> 01:15:50,820
and their funny ads. But the
whole point of the no agenda

1341
01:15:50,820 --> 01:15:54,810
show is that when we say we like
something, it's because we

1342
01:15:54,810 --> 01:15:58,440
actually like it. And we want to
pass the knowledge on to you,

1343
01:15:58,620 --> 01:16:02,700
the nine out of 10 podcast,
you'll hear people talking about

1344
01:16:02,700 --> 01:16:07,710
how great certain services are.
And they're being paid to say it

1345
01:16:07,710 --> 01:16:11,790
in a very conversational way. I
understand the confusion. But

1346
01:16:11,790 --> 01:16:15,690
this is the no agenda podcast.
And I hope that you don't I

1347
01:16:15,690 --> 01:16:18,510
mean, you need to untrain
yourself from thinking this.

1348
01:16:19,710 --> 01:16:20,820
Maybe not. I

1349
01:16:20,820 --> 01:16:21,750
mean, maybe everyone,

1350
01:16:22,290 --> 01:16:25,170
it's almost impossible. I know
that we lost all these people

1351
01:16:25,170 --> 01:16:28,770
overboard during this whole
election cycle because we appear

1352
01:16:29,310 --> 01:16:31,800
because of the way we
deconstruct stories, we appear

1353
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:37,080
to be pro Trump. Yeah. And
because we could there was just

1354
01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:39,720
a way it was turning out because
of the people doing but the best

1355
01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:43,200
work was the Hillary people they
were doing the best work of

1356
01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:47,550
propagandizing the public. Yeah.
And so we ended up

1357
01:16:47,550 --> 01:16:50,580
deconstructing that the most
Trump as your turn that earlier,

1358
01:16:50,580 --> 01:16:53,580
New York Times clip was
bypassing the mechanisms and

1359
01:16:53,580 --> 01:16:56,340
going straight to the public
with a plea. Right. And that was

1360
01:16:56,340 --> 01:16:58,650
different. So there was nothing
to deconstruct. He would just

1361
01:16:58,650 --> 01:17:01,950
read his tweets, right. There's
nothing there. But tweets. Yeah.

1362
01:17:02,340 --> 01:17:07,080
And so it's just a shame. But,
you know, I felt that a lot of

1363
01:17:07,080 --> 01:17:09,300
the reasons that people stopped
listening, and then I can name

1364
01:17:09,300 --> 01:17:12,840
names of people that were always
contributing, they're always

1365
01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:15,570
helping the show out. And
they've now they've kind of

1366
01:17:15,570 --> 01:17:18,540
backed off a little bit much the
same way that Adam lost his

1367
01:17:18,540 --> 01:17:26,820
pals. The doctor and the is his
wife didn't move to the, inside

1368
01:17:26,820 --> 01:17:29,910
the bubble of the of the state
of California, I had a guy who

1369
01:17:29,910 --> 01:17:33,240
wrote me this nasty note saying
that was his bowl of craft beer,

1370
01:17:33,480 --> 01:17:36,630
you know, and you're saying
about the California thing. And

1371
01:17:36,630 --> 01:17:39,330
what I'm gonna say it again, I
had to re explain it to him, and

1372
01:17:39,330 --> 01:17:42,630
he never wrote me back. Which is
that if you take California out

1373
01:17:42,630 --> 01:17:46,410
of the equation, insofar as this
popular vote myth is concerned,

1374
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:49,380
just pull California take all
their votes are Trump and

1375
01:17:49,380 --> 01:17:53,460
Hillary away, Trump wins the
country by a large margin in

1376
01:17:53,460 --> 01:17:57,570
popular vote. It's just
California, I put it in the

1377
01:17:57,570 --> 01:18:01,110
newsletter I showed it, it's
like almost like three plus

1378
01:18:01,110 --> 01:18:04,770
million, I think some about
raises the number because Trump

1379
01:18:04,770 --> 01:18:08,160
couldn't get into the state to
to promote himself if he wanted

1380
01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:12,510
to, because we're not allowing
him. They, you know, it was

1381
01:18:12,510 --> 01:18:15,300
terrible. And they got like, she
got like 70 plus percent of the

1382
01:18:15,300 --> 01:18:18,180
vote in California. So that that
she wins all these numbers,

1383
01:18:18,270 --> 01:18:21,150
which is why the Electoral
College exists. Otherwise, why

1384
01:18:21,150 --> 01:18:23,850
would you just turn over the
country to California and let

1385
01:18:23,850 --> 01:18:26,220
them run everything into the
ground like they've done here?

1386
01:18:26,250 --> 01:18:30,780
Well, what I always say when
people say, Hey, man, you know,

1387
01:18:30,780 --> 01:18:33,300
this is exact, and there's a lot
of talk about this. I don't know

1388
01:18:33,300 --> 01:18:35,340
if you saw Larry Lessig post.

1389
01:18:36,150 --> 01:18:39,960
I put the Larry Lessig thing if
you notice the newsletter, yeah.

1390
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:42,360
Well, of course, he ended there.
Yeah, it wasn't in the

1391
01:18:42,510 --> 01:18:45,660
right. But I just I read the
whole thing. The I read

1392
01:18:45,660 --> 01:18:48,810
it, yeah. Larry Lessig comes out
in the Washington Post, again,

1393
01:18:48,810 --> 01:18:51,870
the Washington Post, the same
operation that has the fake

1394
01:18:51,870 --> 01:18:56,010
news, the Washington Post, and
he says that, well, we the

1395
01:18:56,010 --> 01:18:59,580
electoral college should just
put Hillary in, who gives a crap

1396
01:18:59,580 --> 01:19:02,490
what the public wants? Why, what
if that's what it said, what I

1397
01:19:02,490 --> 01:19:09,960
thought was more interesting is
I have it here is only twice in

1398
01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:12,360
our past as the Electoral
College selected a president

1399
01:19:12,390 --> 01:19:15,630
against the will of the people
once in the 19th century, and

1400
01:19:15,630 --> 01:19:19,170
once on the cusp of the 21st. In
1824. It was Congress that

1401
01:19:19,170 --> 01:19:23,340
decided the election for John
Quincy Adams. Likewise, in 1876,

1402
01:19:23,340 --> 01:19:26,460
it was Congress that gave
disputed Electoral College votes

1403
01:19:26,460 --> 01:19:36,510
to Rutherford B. Hayes. And they
say he says I should say in both

1404
01:19:36,510 --> 01:19:41,850
cases, now he's talking about
Bush v. Gore. He says that the

1405
01:19:41,850 --> 01:19:44,550
result violated violated what
has become one of the most

1406
01:19:44,550 --> 01:19:47,520
important principles governing
our democracy. One person one

1407
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:50,040
vote now he incorrectly says our
democracy because we're a

1408
01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:53,370
republic, but okay, you're a
professor, what the fuck do I

1409
01:19:53,370 --> 01:19:57,120
know? In both cases, the votes
of some weighed much more

1410
01:19:57,120 --> 01:19:59,490
heavily than the votes of others
today, the vote of a citizen of

1411
01:19:59,490 --> 01:20:01,710
Wyoming is four times as
powerful as the vote of a

1412
01:20:01,710 --> 01:20:05,010
citizen in Michigan. The vote of
a citizen in Vermont is three

1413
01:20:05,010 --> 01:20:09,060
times as powerful as a vote in
Missouri. This denies Americans

1414
01:20:09,060 --> 01:20:12,840
the fundamental value of a
representative democracy, again,

1415
01:20:12,870 --> 01:20:15,750
we have Republic, equal
citizenship get nothing in our

1416
01:20:15,750 --> 01:20:19,200
constitution compels that result
here comes instead, if the

1417
01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:21,450
electoral college is to control
who becomes our president, we

1418
01:20:21,450 --> 01:20:24,180
should take it seriously by
understanding its purpose

1419
01:20:24,180 --> 01:20:27,990
precisely. It is not meant to
deny a reasonable judgment by

1420
01:20:27,990 --> 01:20:31,950
the people. It is meant to be a
circuit breaker just in case the

1421
01:20:31,950 --> 01:20:38,100
people go crazy. So and then he
closed out by saying in this

1422
01:20:38,100 --> 01:20:41,340
election that people did not go
crazy. The winner by far the

1423
01:20:41,340 --> 01:20:43,620
popular vote is the most
qualified candidate for

1424
01:20:43,620 --> 01:20:46,500
president in more than a
generation, like her not know

1425
01:20:46,500 --> 01:20:48,840
electric could have a good faith
reason to vote against her

1426
01:20:48,840 --> 01:20:51,810
because of her qualifications.
Choosing her is thus plainly

1427
01:20:51,810 --> 01:20:53,850
within the bounds of a
reasonable judgment by the

1428
01:20:53,850 --> 01:20:58,830
people. And I assert that the
electoral college did their job

1429
01:20:58,830 --> 01:21:04,770
by keeping the actual crazy
person out. This is the this is

1430
01:21:04,770 --> 01:21:10,980
the part that is that is this
broken, unless it's part. She

1431
01:21:10,980 --> 01:21:11,820
says, Oh, he's

1432
01:21:11,820 --> 01:21:16,440
a knee jerk liberal. And as far
as he's concerned, there's not

1433
01:21:16,440 --> 01:21:19,170
nobody should be in that
presidential office. Unless

1434
01:21:19,170 --> 01:21:22,890
they're a Democrat. It's that
simple. Right? And he's just

1435
01:21:22,890 --> 01:21:27,180
looking for grasping at straws.
And this is the worst case

1436
01:21:27,180 --> 01:21:29,970
scenario for him. And this is
what he's writing this is it

1437
01:21:29,970 --> 01:21:33,780
talking to Antonio about a
democratic system? Or in your

1438
01:21:33,780 --> 01:21:37,560
right is a republic, not a
democracy. This is the circuit

1439
01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:40,650
breaker is to keep California
from just dominating everything,

1440
01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:43,710
just the ones who went nuts and
made the popular vote go for

1441
01:21:43,710 --> 01:21:48,840
her. Yes, again, take California
out of it, which is nutty state

1442
01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:52,770
take those votes away and she
doesn't win so how do you

1443
01:21:52,770 --> 01:21:56,220
rationalize that? In other
words, the whole country is

1444
01:21:56,220 --> 01:22:00,600
wrong. And California is the
only state that's right. you're

1445
01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:00,870
onto

1446
01:22:00,870 --> 01:22:05,940
something John? They should
secede. I think they should I'm

1447
01:22:05,940 --> 01:22:10,050
all for it. Go go go anyway,

1448
01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:12,540
it will never be allowed there's
too many ports anyway it's a

1449
01:22:12,540 --> 01:22:15,810
whole shoreline that would be
lost can't do it.

1450
01:22:17,190 --> 01:22:21,570
i Let's thank some people who
support us. Not just us. They

1451
01:22:21,570 --> 01:22:24,510
support the work they support
the show producers have

1452
01:22:24,570 --> 01:22:27,480
exactly continue to support us.
Unlike the people who aren't

1453
01:22:27,480 --> 01:22:29,970
listening at the moment we
backtrack nobody's listening to

1454
01:22:29,970 --> 01:22:31,860
the Thanksgiving Day weekend
holiday

1455
01:22:31,860 --> 01:22:35,370
is always a toughy isn't it and
it's always a lot of work to not

1456
01:22:35,370 --> 01:22:38,130
so much. The Thursday show was
one thing because you know, we

1457
01:22:38,130 --> 01:22:41,370
have to hustle and I wound up
pretty much not cooking at all

1458
01:22:41,370 --> 01:22:46,140
Tina did all the cooking. And
but then between this between

1459
01:22:46,140 --> 01:22:49,140
the Thursday and the Sunday, you
know, no one's working these

1460
01:22:49,170 --> 01:22:53,250
clips. You have to prepare a
week ahead of time. It's a lot

1461
01:22:53,250 --> 01:22:53,700
of work.

1462
01:22:55,890 --> 01:23:02,430
Well, let's thank Lee all of
ARIS from us says Allah God

1463
01:23:03,510 --> 01:23:07,890
hottie John anatomy and he came
in with $880 He's 880 laggard

1464
01:23:08,160 --> 01:23:11,940
and he'll still get his three
credits you know how do you John

1465
01:23:11,940 --> 01:23:14,460
and Adam I heard certainly hope
to pay pal went through without

1466
01:23:14,460 --> 01:23:18,210
a snag but I clearly wouldn't be
asking ask if I received a call

1467
01:23:18,210 --> 01:23:23,160
it on the show at you didn't the
hammer regressed Black Knights

1468
01:23:23,160 --> 01:23:25,140
status or Sunday show as a
result.

1469
01:23:26,100 --> 01:23:29,790
Now here's what here's the
problem. Yeah, there's a

1470
01:23:29,790 --> 01:23:30,360
problem.

1471
01:23:31,350 --> 01:23:37,740
Black Knight is when we
specifically screw up yeah, not

1472
01:23:37,740 --> 01:23:40,530
when Pay Pal screws up or you
make a mistake or you fell

1473
01:23:40,530 --> 01:23:40,860
asleep

1474
01:23:41,280 --> 01:23:43,860
while you're home we've even
given Pay Pal we've even done it

1475
01:23:43,860 --> 01:23:44,700
on Pay Pal screw

1476
01:23:44,700 --> 01:23:48,750
ups think No no. Okay,

1477
01:23:48,870 --> 01:23:51,210
I'm not in charge of of black I
am

1478
01:23:51,240 --> 01:23:56,760
we have never I would say I have
we have never given a Pay Pal

1479
01:23:56,760 --> 01:23:59,430
screw up okay, it's got nothing
to do with it and already got

1480
01:23:59,460 --> 01:24:01,710
it's like this like when we
dropped the ball and you don't

1481
01:24:01,710 --> 01:24:04,890
get knighted? And it goes on and
on and on and then you call us

1482
01:24:05,010 --> 01:24:08,280
or get a hold of us like a month
later say hey, you passed up my

1483
01:24:08,280 --> 01:24:11,340
knighthood I sent a special
request in it here it is now and

1484
01:24:11,340 --> 01:24:16,080
then we Oh geez. Okay, but in
this case, in this case you

1485
01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:16,620
don't get back

1486
01:24:16,620 --> 01:24:21,150
next he came in after the cutoff
you know, or you could

1487
01:24:21,150 --> 01:24:23,610
have done it a day earlier you
know it's like the last minute

1488
01:24:23,970 --> 01:24:25,590
doesn't pay off for this

1489
01:24:25,890 --> 01:24:28,560
but 99 Did you shall be

1490
01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:31,920
Sunday shows the result with
your blessings this donation

1491
01:24:31,920 --> 01:24:35,370
makes me proud no agenda night
accounting below please. Call me

1492
01:24:35,370 --> 01:24:41,160
sir. Milk milkman, milkman of
the ones and zeros. Oh, another

1493
01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:43,020
dude named Ben, I'm

1494
01:24:43,020 --> 01:24:45,150
sure yeah. You both

1495
01:24:45,150 --> 01:24:48,090
received constant praise for
sanity maintenance and in the

1496
01:24:48,090 --> 01:24:52,500
socio political bubble of Los
Angeles is insight you provide

1497
01:24:52,530 --> 01:24:57,390
week in and week out as a huge
comfort to us slaves are nice. I

1498
01:24:57,390 --> 01:25:00,720
was planning to let my $4 week
sub right into an eventual

1499
01:25:00,720 --> 01:25:04,530
knighthood. But I recently
received two curious omens that

1500
01:25:04,530 --> 01:25:07,320
the time is now to share in the
tremendous value I've been

1501
01:25:07,320 --> 01:25:11,310
receiving on a show from the
show twice weekly. Several shows

1502
01:25:11,310 --> 01:25:15,960
ago while driving around in Los
Angeles, a giant ad address sign

1503
01:25:15,960 --> 01:25:19,020
for an office building appears
to me at the same moment, John

1504
01:25:19,020 --> 01:25:27,600
says show a zero. The following
shows Adam says 333 Dang, as I

1505
01:25:27,600 --> 01:25:33,120
pass a tremendous red digit red
digits displaying 333 I could

1506
01:25:33,120 --> 01:25:40,500
not ignore the signs any longer.
Get a Trump jobs a man and we

1507
01:25:40,500 --> 01:25:44,340
got to talk about that. And
maybe a techno experts here

1508
01:25:44,340 --> 01:25:46,230
really send off at the end of
the show.

1509
01:25:46,259 --> 01:25:48,239
Yeah, let me see if I got that.
I'll play a little bit of it.

1510
01:25:48,269 --> 01:25:51,839
Before I hit you were the karma
to jobs, jobs, jobs

1511
01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:53,880
and jobs for jobs.

1512
01:25:58,170 --> 01:26:00,990
Young techno experts?

1513
01:26:01,710 --> 01:26:03,030
Yeah, we'll play that at the end
of the

1514
01:26:03,030 --> 01:26:06,120
show. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs.

1515
01:26:06,150 --> 01:26:10,140
Let's vote for jobs. You've got

1516
01:26:10,350 --> 01:26:13,860
karma, right. And to show I
haven't heard that one a while

1517
01:26:13,860 --> 01:26:14,220
ago.

1518
01:26:15,270 --> 01:26:19,320
And this will be that will he'll
be our associate era executive

1519
01:26:19,320 --> 01:26:22,920
producer. There was no, that's
it. It's a slow day because

1520
01:26:23,100 --> 01:26:27,330
nobody's here and people are
looked at as Andrew Martin in

1521
01:26:27,540 --> 01:26:32,010
Stanmore, New South Wales
Australia came with $250 Be

1522
01:26:32,010 --> 01:26:36,240
Associate Executive Producer
show 881 The hard part in

1523
01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:38,760
donating is thinking of
something intelligent to say to

1524
01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:44,010
a couple of geniuses. That would
be as new words for you guys.

1525
01:26:44,010 --> 01:26:46,500
When you walk into a crowd of
people going in the opposite

1526
01:26:46,500 --> 01:26:47,280
direction. There's

1527
01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:51,030
an honor ven tine

1528
01:26:52,230 --> 01:26:58,050
o n d n ti na. That's you going
people in your walk going into a

1529
01:26:58,050 --> 01:27:03,360
crowd coming in at your
direction? In time, this can

1530
01:27:03,360 --> 01:27:07,350
also help be used whenever an
overwhelming flood is coming in.

1531
01:27:07,830 --> 01:27:11,700
One, like a friend of mine made
up and sounds like correct

1532
01:27:11,700 --> 01:27:17,430
English to me. Okay, could have
been easy, better read whatever

1533
01:27:17,430 --> 01:27:20,460
you said. When someone is out of
their depth blabbing about

1534
01:27:20,460 --> 01:27:25,650
screwing it up you can refer to
that person as a pheasant. Yeah,

1535
01:27:25,650 --> 01:27:30,660
I guess it's a mix of mix of
intelligent intellectual poverty

1536
01:27:31,259 --> 01:27:35,189
and a pheasant. What is the

1537
01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:40,110
same word to me? I'm not sure
it's kind of like a douchebag

1538
01:27:40,110 --> 01:27:43,350
but a bit more clueless and more
heartless that guy was talking

1539
01:27:43,350 --> 01:27:47,400
about the word having a global
warming warming problem because

1540
01:27:47,400 --> 01:27:52,740
its sun is expanding comes to
mind okay, all right. You guys

1541
01:27:52,740 --> 01:27:55,530
are absolutely nailing it. Yeah.
laughs like to hear the curry

1542
01:27:55,530 --> 01:27:59,340
version of he came he saw he
died. And the stop laughing Why

1543
01:27:59,340 --> 01:28:01,860
are you laughing guy? That's not
the

1544
01:28:01,860 --> 01:28:08,100
curry version. No seed man. I'll
play both so I mean that is the

1545
01:28:08,100 --> 01:28:14,670
land of unconfirmed Yes, we
came. We saw he died. We came we

1546
01:28:14,670 --> 01:28:21,900
saw he died. Why? Karma Shut up.

1547
01:28:23,670 --> 01:28:27,210
You know the funny thing about
that is the when I first heard

1548
01:28:27,210 --> 01:28:31,680
it. You told me as a Sega I
thought it was you really?

1549
01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:36,570
Yeah. Because when you do that
silly voice. That's what you

1550
01:28:36,570 --> 01:28:42,660
sound like. That's not very
good. That's I would say that is

1551
01:28:42,690 --> 01:28:46,050
disturbing. Why that I sound
like the seed man.

1552
01:28:47,400 --> 01:28:51,360
Only in that one instance. Play
it again. We came

1553
01:28:54,840 --> 01:28:58,050
I could do it. You're right.
Yeah, you could do that. Or we

1554
01:28:58,050 --> 01:28:59,370
could do it completely
differently.

1555
01:29:00,810 --> 01:29:01,680
Yeah, yeah.

1556
01:29:10,410 --> 01:29:13,680
That's good. Pretty good. Yeah.
Devil's voice that said. The

1557
01:29:13,680 --> 01:29:15,240
Devil's voice the devil's voice.
Okay. We

1558
01:29:15,240 --> 01:29:15,900
keep the devil.

1559
01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:22,950
Yeah, that's good. That's
actually my John that's okay.

1560
01:29:23,280 --> 01:29:24,780
Gary has a new gizmo.

1561
01:29:24,840 --> 01:29:27,060
Yeah. Rick. Rick, RK henleys.
Next.

1562
01:29:28,200 --> 01:29:32,160
Oh, RK Handley, right in
Memphis, Tennessee. 233 33. He

1563
01:29:32,160 --> 01:29:35,250
sent that came in as just a
check one of those bank checks

1564
01:29:35,250 --> 01:29:39,840
and No, no note, even a bank
email. Okay, thank you. John

1565
01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:47,610
Donovan. 222 22 And he sent an
email. Okay. He's the Baron of

1566
01:29:47,610 --> 01:29:51,570
Silicon Valley. So he's in the
Bay Area somewhere. And I'm

1567
01:29:51,570 --> 01:29:53,700
running around belated
Thanksgiving greetings I'm

1568
01:29:53,700 --> 01:29:57,570
grateful for you guys. The no
agenda, family and this and this

1569
01:29:57,600 --> 01:30:01,050
safe space for media
deconstruction. Please read the

1570
01:30:01,050 --> 01:30:04,230
following and grant me and the
rest of the no agenda producer

1571
01:30:04,410 --> 01:30:07,770
family some no agenda karma with
the jobs, jobs jobs.

1572
01:30:08,700 --> 01:30:10,650
And then a little girl Yay.
Okay.

1573
01:30:11,460 --> 01:30:16,890
Here's 888 in quarters
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1574
01:30:16,890 --> 01:30:21,900
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1575
01:30:21,900 --> 01:30:26,370
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1577
01:30:31,080 --> 01:30:35,190
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1579
01:30:39,750 --> 01:30:44,370
before show 888 I only asked for
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1580
01:30:44,370 --> 01:30:48,630
on this. If I get a match up to
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1581
01:30:48,630 --> 01:30:51,870
888 executive producer have no
agenda nation steps up in

1582
01:30:51,870 --> 01:30:55,050
matching my pledge. I hope this
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1583
01:30:55,050 --> 01:30:59,160
value contributions. So people
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1584
01:30:59,160 --> 01:31:05,550
will come in search ad with the
match that match it. Wow. Okay,

1585
01:31:05,550 --> 01:31:09,090
let's limit that as limit is
probably 888 Which means you

1586
01:31:09,090 --> 01:31:12,510
probably match it three times or
maybe four.

1587
01:31:12,540 --> 01:31:17,040
Not very cool. Appreciate that.
Nice. Yes, I got his jingles

1588
01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:19,050
here. Jobs, jobs,

1589
01:31:19,170 --> 01:31:20,760
jobs and jobs.

1590
01:31:20,790 --> 01:31:26,670
Let's vote for jobs. You've got
karma.

1591
01:31:28,830 --> 01:31:30,030
Karma dispensed

1592
01:31:31,080 --> 01:31:35,160
onward to Christopher Gray who
live from Roscommon, Michigan.

1593
01:31:35,160 --> 01:31:37,860
One of the club members I
believe up there local one.

1594
01:31:38,940 --> 01:31:43,320
$200.33 I got no note. And
Dennis Vaughn

1595
01:31:44,610 --> 01:31:46,080
then ended tration

1596
01:31:46,740 --> 01:31:51,780
not even close. Dennis Dennis
fund Andreessen fund in

1597
01:31:51,780 --> 01:31:55,680
duration. Yeah. Don't you kind
of just do the SS Dennis fund

1598
01:31:55,680 --> 01:31:58,560
Andreessen. Dennis vonden

1599
01:31:58,560 --> 01:32:03,330
recent very good, very good.
Joiner bucks he says in

1600
01:32:03,330 --> 01:32:08,460
Amsterdam he says way overdue.
Great New Amsterdam to those

1601
01:32:08,490 --> 01:32:11,730
running the best podcast in the
entire universe from Amsterdam.

1602
01:32:11,820 --> 01:32:16,470
I Amsterdam actually says I
Amsterdam from I Amsterdam.

1603
01:32:17,310 --> 01:32:18,690
Referring to some movement.

1604
01:32:18,960 --> 01:32:21,000
Oh, yeah. Where did the
interactive city I know it's

1605
01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:23,760
actually you know, the big sign
they have now the I heart

1606
01:32:23,760 --> 01:32:27,600
Amsterdam is I Amsterdam. I am
Amsterdam, Amsterdam. Each

1607
01:32:27,600 --> 01:32:30,000
thing. Someone gotta pay a lot
of money to come up with that.

1608
01:32:32,550 --> 01:32:35,940
You're underwhelmed? I know.
That's pretty nice. That's what

1609
01:32:35,940 --> 01:32:38,250
they do. That's what they do.
Okay, I

1610
01:32:38,250 --> 01:32:41,880
love New York was invented by
Milton Glaser in the 60s and

1611
01:32:41,880 --> 01:32:44,340
they'd been people have been
stealing from that idea forever.

1612
01:32:44,340 --> 01:32:45,240
They have they have

1613
01:32:45,930 --> 01:32:49,440
and that's it right. That's our
that's all shortlist I do have a

1614
01:32:49,440 --> 01:32:53,910
PR mentioned here. Eric the
shill apparently is running in

1615
01:32:53,910 --> 01:33:00,120
his in his real life. He runs a
nonprofit is this the NW

1616
01:33:00,120 --> 01:33:02,310
discovery lab? Is that the

1617
01:33:02,460 --> 01:33:04,800
northwestern get a couple of
these things? I guess so. Yeah.

1618
01:33:04,830 --> 01:33:09,870
Yeah. So he wrote us a note he
said backstory. We bought a

1619
01:33:09,870 --> 01:33:13,200
bunch of entry level DSLRs for a
summer photography class for

1620
01:33:13,200 --> 01:33:16,290
kids seven and up. Soon after,
we'd let them take the cameras

1621
01:33:16,290 --> 01:33:18,690
out and about and they took some
great photos we sent a bunch to

1622
01:33:18,690 --> 01:33:21,480
get printed and matted. And
we're offering them for sale to

1623
01:33:21,480 --> 01:33:24,060
buy more gear in order to expand
the program for kids waiting in

1624
01:33:24,060 --> 01:33:27,150
the wings. We are teaching these
kids legitimate photography not

1625
01:33:27,150 --> 01:33:30,870
selfies or iPhone picture
taking. Well, that's good. We

1626
01:33:30,870 --> 01:33:32,730
have partnered with local
professional photographers to

1627
01:33:32,730 --> 01:33:36,240
teach these kids various aspects
of photography going forward. So

1628
01:33:36,240 --> 01:33:41,550
you go to store.nw discovery
lab.org as a mouthful

1629
01:33:42,180 --> 01:33:44,430
with the link of a link in the
show notes links in the show

1630
01:33:44,430 --> 01:33:45,570
notes. It looks pretty good.

1631
01:33:45,900 --> 01:33:49,530
Actually it looks nice stuff and
he ends up PS people can now buy

1632
01:33:49,530 --> 01:33:51,330
J CDs grandkids work.

1633
01:33:53,010 --> 01:33:54,360
Oh, that's Oh, I

1634
01:33:54,360 --> 01:33:55,290
couldn't read that that's

1635
01:33:55,290 --> 01:33:58,470
the that's the that's a their
unique selling proposition right

1636
01:33:58,470 --> 01:34:02,880
there by art made by John's
grandkids

1637
01:34:05,430 --> 01:34:09,390
Oh my goodness. So I'm sure it's
the you know, you shoot 1000

1638
01:34:09,390 --> 01:34:10,980
pictures is always a winner in
there

1639
01:34:10,980 --> 01:34:13,740
always something in there. It's
the old ways.

1640
01:34:13,920 --> 01:34:16,380
I've always looked at the I do a
lot of divorce. Still no, a lot

1641
01:34:16,380 --> 01:34:19,800
of professional photographers I
like to shoot. But there's two,

1642
01:34:19,890 --> 01:34:24,480
two typically types of guys.
There's the one guy who shoots

1643
01:34:24,480 --> 01:34:27,960
and shoots goes crazy. She has
1000s and 1000s of shots and he

1644
01:34:27,960 --> 01:34:32,400
goes over each one and picks the
two that are gems. And then

1645
01:34:32,400 --> 01:34:35,160
there's the other guy which is
the one that's very interesting.

1646
01:34:35,160 --> 01:34:37,260
He's the guy who sets up a shot.

1647
01:34:37,530 --> 01:34:44,370
Yeah. shoots it once. nails it.
That guy is like

1648
01:34:44,460 --> 01:34:47,310
that. Those are the guys I
rented one of these guys. Render

1649
01:34:47,310 --> 01:34:50,370
one of these guys he is very
high end photographer and he

1650
01:34:50,370 --> 01:34:52,470
shoots eight by 10

1651
01:34:52,500 --> 01:34:53,430
Oh beautiful.

1652
01:34:53,549 --> 01:34:56,069
There's a Hasselblad and
negative Hasselblad the big bed

1653
01:34:56,069 --> 01:34:58,949
no, no, it has a bizarre very
small format compared to eight

1654
01:34:58,949 --> 01:35:03,539
by 10. Oh Seems like this is an
inch by inch inches. Oh

1655
01:35:03,540 --> 01:35:06,060
my god, I was thinking
centimeters. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

1656
01:35:06,660 --> 01:35:11,310
Yeah so he he'll set up a shot.
I did a shot for a book thing

1657
01:35:11,310 --> 01:35:14,340
with this guy a good get the
makeup people come in and they

1658
01:35:14,340 --> 01:35:18,060
move you around and they do this
pottery and they move the lights

1659
01:35:18,060 --> 01:35:20,220
around it takes a couple of
little Polaroids and then he

1660
01:35:20,220 --> 01:35:24,120
puts the giant probably cost 20
bucks for one of these negatives

1661
01:35:24,240 --> 01:35:27,060
into thing shoots and once he's
done, yeah, yeah, it's

1662
01:35:27,060 --> 01:35:29,580
perfectly one one shot. Yeah.
And I know photographers like

1663
01:35:29,580 --> 01:35:33,000
this. They're very they're few
and far between the do this?

1664
01:35:33,660 --> 01:35:37,860
Yeah, very far if you buy
Patricia Stewart, she's a Dutch

1665
01:35:37,860 --> 01:35:41,430
photographer. And I've worked
with her several times you'd

1666
01:35:41,430 --> 01:35:45,150
like to set up set up makeup set
up with a Polaroid and then

1667
01:35:45,150 --> 01:35:49,770
click OK. Done. Like what she's
what? What happened to spray and

1668
01:35:49,770 --> 01:35:55,140
pray when everyone does.
Alright, everybody, thank you so

1669
01:35:55,140 --> 01:35:59,190
much for supporting your
podcast, you are the producers.

1670
01:35:59,280 --> 01:36:01,620
And that's why we gave these
people associated Well, one

1671
01:36:01,620 --> 01:36:04,230
associated via executive
producer, I have one executive

1672
01:36:04,230 --> 01:36:07,140
producer. And we have we have
four Associate Executive

1673
01:36:07,140 --> 01:36:09,300
producers, thank you so much for
supporting us. We'll be thanking

1674
01:36:09,300 --> 01:36:12,090
other people later on during the
program. And remember, we have

1675
01:36:12,090 --> 01:36:16,410
another show coming up on
thursday.org/in

1676
01:36:16,500 --> 01:36:17,130
A sit in

1677
01:36:17,130 --> 01:36:19,980
the car driving back home with
your family members, why not

1678
01:36:19,980 --> 01:36:22,260
propagate the formula? Our
formula is

1679
01:36:22,260 --> 01:36:25,950
this. We go out, we get people
in the mouth

1680
01:36:42,000 --> 01:36:47,250
wanted to give you a little
insight and thought I had

1681
01:36:47,340 --> 01:36:51,480
regarding what no one seems to
really know is who's going to be

1682
01:36:51,480 --> 01:36:57,540
doing what within the Trump
administration. So I rescind my

1683
01:36:57,540 --> 01:37:01,320
Secretary of Defense. Pick two
Mad Dog he'll

1684
01:37:01,320 --> 01:37:04,860
be the guy. What's his name
again?

1685
01:37:05,700 --> 01:37:07,140
Man Mad Dog Mattis?

1686
01:37:07,170 --> 01:37:10,320
Mad Mad Dog? Mattis? That guy?
Yeah. So it seems like he's

1687
01:37:10,320 --> 01:37:14,220
going to be the secretary of
defense. And, you know, the got

1688
01:37:14,220 --> 01:37:18,720
a little insight into clappers
resignation. Because there's

1689
01:37:18,720 --> 01:37:21,000
been a lot of this. I've
actually the New Yorker did a

1690
01:37:21,030 --> 01:37:24,840
huge hit piece on Michael Flynn,
calling him a nut job, which is

1691
01:37:24,840 --> 01:37:28,950
pretty interesting. And of
course, what happened was, you

1692
01:37:28,950 --> 01:37:32,400
know, Flynn was a guy who was
running around boots on the

1693
01:37:32,400 --> 01:37:35,550
ground getting stuff done, you
know, changing the way the

1694
01:37:35,550 --> 01:37:38,910
military does intelligence, the
pencil pushers in DC didn't like

1695
01:37:38,910 --> 01:37:41,460
that. And so they fired him and
who Guess Who fired him.

1696
01:37:42,000 --> 01:37:45,570
Clapper. So this is no
coincidence.

1697
01:37:45,570 --> 01:37:47,070
He didn't want to be fired.

1698
01:37:47,070 --> 01:37:50,940
No, of course. No. No. So
clapper gave like nine months to

1699
01:37:50,940 --> 01:37:55,680
get the heck out. So yeah, so
Clapper is behind. Maybe I

1700
01:37:55,680 --> 01:37:59,550
should leave now. But I had a
thought for Secretary of State

1701
01:37:59,550 --> 01:38:03,180
because we've had tons of names
running around. But you're

1702
01:38:03,180 --> 01:38:06,960
floating around. Even Mitt
Romney who actually might not

1703
01:38:06,960 --> 01:38:13,200
even be such a bad pick. Except
he's such a dick. Douchebag. But

1704
01:38:13,230 --> 01:38:15,810
all of a sudden it hit me and it
would mess with everybody's

1705
01:38:15,810 --> 01:38:19,260
head. It would be great for our
show in the media because we get

1706
01:38:19,590 --> 01:38:23,550
bring back. Lots of old fake
news. Well, not really fake

1707
01:38:23,550 --> 01:38:27,150
news, but you can see how the
news works. Ready

1708
01:38:27,150 --> 01:38:33,540
for my my pick? Is launch does
not portray us. No. Dan who Dan

1709
01:38:33,540 --> 01:38:35,340
Quayle. Now,

1710
01:38:35,880 --> 01:38:37,650
I'm telling you, this is a
genius pick.

1711
01:38:37,680 --> 01:38:40,770
No, you're right. It would be it
would screw up everybody, but it

1712
01:38:40,770 --> 01:38:43,680
did have all the guys are gonna
He's not gonna know. It's not

1713
01:38:43,680 --> 01:38:44,130
even in the

1714
01:38:44,190 --> 01:38:47,580
cards. Okay. Okay,

1715
01:38:47,940 --> 01:38:50,190
I can put it in the red book if
you want, but it's not going

1716
01:38:50,190 --> 01:38:51,000
anywhere that I did.

1717
01:38:51,030 --> 01:38:54,090
I it just struck me all of a
sudden and he's been you know,

1718
01:38:54,090 --> 01:38:58,710
he's supportive of Trump. He's
been doing a couple of couple of

1719
01:38:59,070 --> 01:39:01,110
q&a sessions here and then I

1720
01:39:01,110 --> 01:39:03,960
know he should pick him up.
We're gonna do this game. I got

1721
01:39:03,960 --> 01:39:04,200
one.

1722
01:39:04,230 --> 01:39:11,250
All right. Jeb Bush. No, no, no.

1723
01:39:11,280 --> 01:39:11,970
Yeah. Why not?

1724
01:39:12,000 --> 01:39:15,000
I'll just tell you the reason
why Dan Quayle. He went around

1725
01:39:15,000 --> 01:39:20,730
the world as vie for for, for
Bush. He did as many miles as

1726
01:39:20,730 --> 01:39:24,000
Hillary Clinton. He was a part
of all the deals. Yeah, he just

1727
01:39:24,000 --> 01:39:27,540
he's media friendly, but
unfriendly for himself. You

1728
01:39:27,540 --> 01:39:31,140
know, he's, he comes across as
an idiot and media loves

1729
01:39:31,320 --> 01:39:33,270
cranking. He runs a huge
company.

1730
01:39:33,719 --> 01:39:38,249
Yeah, um, I was told by a friend
of mine in DC, who will remain

1731
01:39:38,249 --> 01:39:40,079
nameless, but it's highly
connected.

1732
01:39:41,190 --> 01:39:42,780
That he knows Quayle? Uh huh.

1733
01:39:43,740 --> 01:39:47,820
He says quails, extremely
intelligent guy. Yeah. It's kind

1734
01:39:47,820 --> 01:39:49,890
of I guess he just presents
himself as a doofus.

1735
01:39:49,950 --> 01:39:55,860
I just yeah, he. He's clumsy.
But Cerberus. I mean, this is a

1736
01:39:55,860 --> 01:39:58,380
big company that he's running.
It's no joke.

1737
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:02,430
He's not going to quit that
company to work for this go back

1738
01:40:02,430 --> 01:40:03,810
into government. No way.

1739
01:40:03,840 --> 01:40:07,680
Oh, no, no, I don't think Jeb
would be a Jeb wouldn't be no

1740
01:40:07,680 --> 01:40:10,980
good. And Trish is the guy that
gets mentioned the most now.

1741
01:40:12,840 --> 01:40:16,980
To me not a great pig Yeah,

1742
01:40:16,980 --> 01:40:19,410
Hi Ken. I don't like him. I
agree. Yeah,

1743
01:40:19,440 --> 01:40:21,600
his his code name is p four by
the way.

1744
01:40:24,090 --> 01:40:24,840
Petraeus

1745
01:40:24,870 --> 01:40:28,620
Yeah, everyone has a
abbreviation. Yeah. And you

1746
01:40:28,620 --> 01:40:31,110
know, I'm getting all these text
messages actually is more

1747
01:40:31,110 --> 01:40:34,290
through signals on if you call
text message. And you know,

1748
01:40:34,290 --> 01:40:36,660
sometimes like, what the hell
what the hell are they talking

1749
01:40:36,660 --> 01:40:42,720
about? Yeah, so, Trump is dj t.
That's easy. Flynn is MF

1750
01:40:43,950 --> 01:40:45,600
but P for MF

1751
01:40:47,130 --> 01:40:51,330
MF I couldn't figure out P for
Petraeus p four four star

1752
01:40:51,330 --> 01:40:52,830
General Petraeus p four.

1753
01:40:56,010 --> 01:40:58,380
Yeah, you should take a look at
what's going on you but here's

1754
01:40:58,380 --> 01:40:59,190
an interesting Well, he's

1755
01:40:59,190 --> 01:41:02,310
a he's a he's a favorite insider
for something for sure. He was

1756
01:41:02,310 --> 01:41:04,590
also kicked out by clapper

1757
01:41:04,650 --> 01:41:08,730
also kicked out by clapper.
Clapper is a bad guy. Well, you

1758
01:41:08,820 --> 01:41:10,230
don't have to deal with him. Oh,
no,

1759
01:41:10,230 --> 01:41:14,190
I you know me and Patricia said
so far as our show is concerned

1760
01:41:14,220 --> 01:41:17,550
as I just dislike his his
carrying on with that with his

1761
01:41:17,550 --> 01:41:22,680
outfits. Yeah, it is a little
over the top, isn't it? Like

1762
01:41:22,680 --> 01:41:25,560
come on. You're not a General De
Simone Chile.

1763
01:41:27,300 --> 01:41:28,980
Get a clue you're not to talk to
that's

1764
01:41:28,980 --> 01:41:31,290
where we got into another. We
lost a bunch of other listeners

1765
01:41:31,290 --> 01:41:33,480
during that little era because
of these guys who won't

1766
01:41:33,480 --> 01:41:36,420
recognize the fact that generals
can design their own uniforms.

1767
01:41:36,480 --> 01:41:39,690
We are the only podcast we are
the only podcast is writing our

1768
01:41:39,690 --> 01:41:41,550
listenership all the way to the
bottom

1769
01:41:41,640 --> 01:41:47,400
of Earth Day. Oh, no, they can't
is it got some military rules?

1770
01:41:47,400 --> 01:41:50,790
And I show him the exact section
of the military law which says

1771
01:41:50,790 --> 01:41:53,520
the generals can design their
own uniforms. And then they

1772
01:41:53,520 --> 01:41:54,840
never did they quit the show.

1773
01:41:56,850 --> 01:42:00,750
I know it's pretty bad. Pretty
bad. Was to do Yeah.

1774
01:42:02,610 --> 01:42:04,500
Here, let's see, here's a good
one. This is like they're here.

1775
01:42:04,500 --> 01:42:06,450
They're trying to soften trump
up a little bit. They get that

1776
01:42:06,450 --> 01:42:10,020
Mad Dog Mattis guy in there,
Trump is using some of his picks

1777
01:42:10,020 --> 01:42:14,550
to change his positions. And
instead again, instead of the

1778
01:42:14,550 --> 01:42:19,290
left or the celebrating, no, oh,
he's dropped that horrible idea.

1779
01:42:19,290 --> 01:42:21,360
And now he's gonna do this.
Instead of that. They don't do

1780
01:42:21,360 --> 01:42:26,130
that they go. I always have flip
flop flip flop. And you don't

1781
01:42:26,160 --> 01:42:29,910
you know, the flip flopping
thing is what you used to demean

1782
01:42:29,910 --> 01:42:32,970
somebody during an election, not
after an election.

1783
01:42:33,750 --> 01:42:36,390
During the debates and stuff,
that's when you use the flip

1784
01:42:36,390 --> 01:42:37,230
flopper stuff.

1785
01:42:37,500 --> 01:42:40,500
Yeah, what was the point of
saying that now is like, stupid,

1786
01:42:40,560 --> 01:42:45,510
but let's play Trump political
picks and waterboarding was very

1787
01:42:45,510 --> 01:42:48,750
sharp, a Trump critic doesn't
seem that Trump wants a team of

1788
01:42:49,050 --> 01:42:51,870
perhaps dissenters around them,
or at least not a bunch of Yes,

1789
01:42:51,870 --> 01:42:52,170
men.

1790
01:42:52,920 --> 01:42:55,710
Yeah. And that's what's getting
very interesting about this.

1791
01:42:55,710 --> 01:42:58,950
Nikki Haley was somebody who was
very critical about the Muslim

1792
01:42:58,950 --> 01:43:01,770
ban, for example, and you would
think she would have no place in

1793
01:43:01,770 --> 01:43:04,500
a Trump administration. And
neither would would Romney. The

1794
01:43:04,500 --> 01:43:07,980
fact that in the case of Haley,
she's actually been nominated as

1795
01:43:07,980 --> 01:43:11,610
the US Ambassador to the UN that
suggested change here, but I

1796
01:43:11,610 --> 01:43:14,670
think it may be an even bigger
one is look what's going on with

1797
01:43:14,670 --> 01:43:17,910
retired General James Mattis.
When Donald Trump went to talk

1798
01:43:17,910 --> 01:43:21,270
to the New York Times he
signaled real flexibility on a

1799
01:43:21,270 --> 01:43:23,490
big issue, which is
waterboarding, which critics of

1800
01:43:23,490 --> 01:43:26,580
course call torture. And during
the campaign, Donald Trump said

1801
01:43:26,580 --> 01:43:29,130
he wanted to bring back
waterboarding to get tough on

1802
01:43:29,130 --> 01:43:32,040
terrorists. But he then told the
New York Times a couple of days

1803
01:43:32,040 --> 01:43:35,820
ago, hold on a second. I talked
to James Mattis about that. And

1804
01:43:35,820 --> 01:43:39,060
he says, It doesn't work. And so
basically, I've changed my

1805
01:43:39,060 --> 01:43:41,790
position. Now critics are gonna
say, Wait a second, he's a flip

1806
01:43:41,790 --> 01:43:45,120
flopper. He's backpedaling. He
said one thing in the campaign.

1807
01:43:45,120 --> 01:43:47,820
Now he might Governor different
way. But there's another way to

1808
01:43:47,820 --> 01:43:50,610
look at that, of course, Doug,
and it's that the critics of

1809
01:43:50,610 --> 01:43:52,710
Donald Trump, including the New
York Times said this was

1810
01:43:52,710 --> 01:43:56,100
somebody who was unstable. You
can't trust him his temperament

1811
01:43:56,220 --> 01:43:58,710
to be commander in chief, if
he's someone willing to go

1812
01:43:58,710 --> 01:44:01,680
behind closed doors with a
retired general with the respect

1813
01:44:01,680 --> 01:44:04,800
of, of James Mattis and say, You
know what, you make a good

1814
01:44:04,800 --> 01:44:08,310
point, I'm going to rethink
this. It shows more flexibility,

1815
01:44:08,400 --> 01:44:10,590
and maybe a better temperament
than his critics thought.

1816
01:44:10,650 --> 01:44:14,880
Yeah, I often look at the Trump
is a pure negotiator, in every

1817
01:44:15,000 --> 01:44:18,360
every relationship he has. He
starts out with a hard line and

1818
01:44:18,360 --> 01:44:20,700
is subject to give and take
depending on how the negotiation

1819
01:44:20,700 --> 01:44:24,210
goes. It's been a transition
that is keeping with Donald

1820
01:44:24,210 --> 01:44:27,480
Trump's style and one case in
point there is Dr. Ben Carson

1821
01:44:27,480 --> 01:44:27,870
saga.

1822
01:44:31,020 --> 01:44:35,010
Right. Yeah, yeah. That shows

1823
01:44:35,310 --> 01:44:39,990
willingness to listen, I guess.
I'm glad I know what it shows.

1824
01:44:39,990 --> 01:44:42,000
There is a problem though.
There's a problem and they're

1825
01:44:42,000 --> 01:44:45,570
very interesting guy of guess
one of Trump's best friends, I

1826
01:44:45,570 --> 01:44:47,760
think is a hedge fund guy, young
guy. I can't remember his name.

1827
01:44:48,180 --> 01:44:51,510
But you know, billion
billionaire. And he was over in

1828
01:44:51,510 --> 01:44:56,490
the UK and he did this interview
with BBC and from that came the

1829
01:44:56,520 --> 01:44:58,830
from him out of his mouth
directly. It's in this report. I

1830
01:44:58,830 --> 01:45:03,660
think it's in this report. You
said, You were so pro gay that

1831
01:45:03,660 --> 01:45:08,790
even Elton John is going to be
performing. But yeah, but that

1832
01:45:08,790 --> 01:45:09,420
wasn't true

1833
01:45:09,450 --> 01:45:12,690
what the left our societies they
want to censor and make

1834
01:45:12,690 --> 01:45:15,960
politically correct everything
in the society and the average

1835
01:45:15,960 --> 01:45:18,780
person is sort of tired of that.
And so so I don't agree with

1836
01:45:18,810 --> 01:45:22,020
that headline that you just
said, I'm also a gay rights

1837
01:45:22,020 --> 01:45:24,000
activist, you know, you can look
it up I've given to American

1838
01:45:24,000 --> 01:45:27,120
unity pack, they give it to the
Human Rights Campaign. I'm for

1839
01:45:27,120 --> 01:45:31,890
more I know you're on for
marriage equality. And so you

1840
01:45:31,890 --> 01:45:34,200
know, and by the way, this will
be the first American president

1841
01:45:34,200 --> 01:45:38,640
in US history that enters the
White House with a pro gay

1842
01:45:38,670 --> 01:45:42,270
rights stance, Elton John is
going to be doing our, our

1843
01:45:42,270 --> 01:45:44,490
concert on the mall for the
inauguration.

1844
01:45:45,480 --> 01:45:50,100
That turned out to be a little
premature. But you know, this is

1845
01:45:50,100 --> 01:45:53,220
what's interesting is which
musician now there's Oh, we

1846
01:45:53,220 --> 01:45:56,400
already know there's no no, no
money in the music business

1847
01:45:56,400 --> 01:46:00,870
anymore. But there really is
none. And who's going to

1848
01:46:00,870 --> 01:46:05,100
perform? Don't we always have a
performance? Who will step up?

1849
01:46:05,580 --> 01:46:06,600
Who isn't going to perform to

1850
01:46:06,600 --> 01:46:09,690
who performed at the
inauguration in 2008 for Obama?

1851
01:46:11,580 --> 01:46:16,200
Aretha Aretha Franklin
performed? For sure. Is she how

1852
01:46:16,200 --> 01:46:22,170
she I'm sure I'm sure. She do.
Aretha Franklin sang she sang

1853
01:46:22,200 --> 01:46:23,880
live at the inauguration.

1854
01:46:24,660 --> 01:46:32,190
It was Yeah. Well maybe be like
2012. Who did 2012? I don't know

1855
01:46:32,190 --> 01:46:36,750
is beyond my B 12. dosage.

1856
01:46:37,110 --> 01:46:39,030
I don't remember that what
you're saying is not that

1857
01:46:39,030 --> 01:46:43,380
important. Well, it is an issue
and a couple garage bands.

1858
01:46:44,070 --> 01:46:47,370
Have a Green Day. Oh, wait, they
hate. You see them on the

1859
01:46:47,370 --> 01:46:48,840
American Music Awards. Little
Green

1860
01:46:48,840 --> 01:46:50,850
data is a gay band. I mean, the
guy's gay.

1861
01:46:50,880 --> 01:46:52,410
Oh, Billy Joe.

1862
01:46:52,920 --> 01:46:57,810
Yeah, he's not gay. Are you
kidding? Billy Joe was gay. It's

1863
01:46:57,810 --> 01:46:58,110
true.

1864
01:46:58,140 --> 01:47:01,650
Yeah, it's true. No, Billy Joe
gay.

1865
01:47:01,680 --> 01:47:05,520
Yes. So sorry to disappoint you.
Wow. Yeah,

1866
01:47:05,760 --> 01:47:10,860
he's gay. Oh, yeah. No, he
doesn't say he's gay. Yeah.

1867
01:47:12,030 --> 01:47:12,810
He does say he's gay.

1868
01:47:12,870 --> 01:47:16,560
No, he's no. In fact, he says
he's he's no longer sure he's

1869
01:47:16,560 --> 01:47:19,080
bisexual. So he's already edging
away and

1870
01:47:19,080 --> 01:47:23,250
now he's thinks he's gay. BJ is
not gay. Okay, fine. I don't

1871
01:47:24,120 --> 01:47:25,350
I've never met the guy but on

1872
01:47:25,440 --> 01:47:28,170
the American Music Awards, he
changed the lyrics of the song

1873
01:47:28,170 --> 01:47:32,100
and he started chanting. No
Trump que que que no fascism and

1874
01:47:32,100 --> 01:47:37,830
USA. No Trump no que que que no
fascist performing. And no, I

1875
01:47:37,830 --> 01:47:40,110
don't think they'll be
performing this. Who wants to do

1876
01:47:40,110 --> 01:47:44,460
that song? Yeah, I did. I did
catch a piece of pence. You

1877
01:47:44,460 --> 01:47:47,490
know, the true operator, the
chief operating officer of the

1878
01:47:47,490 --> 01:47:52,890
United States to come elect to
regarding the Hamilton Fructus.

1879
01:47:53,160 --> 01:47:55,560
And I really I liked it. I like
he's a cool. He's a cool

1880
01:47:55,560 --> 01:47:59,490
customer, man. I was pleased for
a second. He's not really

1881
01:47:59,490 --> 01:48:02,970
special. But just shows you how.
How he speaks. We really hear

1882
01:48:03,120 --> 01:48:03,990
he's pretty even

1883
01:48:04,020 --> 01:48:05,340
keeled, that's for sure. Yeah.

1884
01:48:05,519 --> 01:48:10,289
Well, first off, my daughter and
I and her and her cousins really

1885
01:48:10,289 --> 01:48:13,049
enjoyed the show. Hamilton is
just an incredible production.

1886
01:48:13,080 --> 01:48:15,540
There is a little gotcha in
here. I don't know if you'll

1887
01:48:15,540 --> 01:48:16,320
catch it and

1888
01:48:17,550 --> 01:48:22,530
incredibly talented people. And
it was a real joy to be there.

1889
01:48:22,530 --> 01:48:26,610
And, you know, when we arrived,
we heard we heard a few boos and

1890
01:48:26,610 --> 01:48:29,520
we heard some cheers. And I
nudged my kids and reminded

1891
01:48:29,520 --> 01:48:33,630
them, that's what freedom sounds
like and nice. But at the end, I

1892
01:48:33,630 --> 01:48:37,590
you know, I did hear what was
said from the stage. And I can

1893
01:48:37,590 --> 01:48:40,410
tell you I wasn't offended by by
what was said, I'll leave to

1894
01:48:40,410 --> 01:48:43,080
others, whether that was the
appropriate venue to say it. But

1895
01:48:43,260 --> 01:48:48,810
I do want to say that, that the
basic element is the center of

1896
01:48:48,810 --> 01:48:53,220
that message is one that I I
want to address. And that is I

1897
01:48:53,220 --> 01:48:55,950
know, this is a very
disappointing time for people

1898
01:48:55,950 --> 01:48:59,010
that that did not see their
candidate win in this national

1899
01:48:59,010 --> 01:49:02,400
election. I know this is a very
high for some people. And I just

1900
01:49:02,400 --> 01:49:04,830
want to reassure people that
what President Elect Donald

1901
01:49:04,830 --> 01:49:08,370
Trump said, On election night,
he absolutely meant from the

1902
01:49:08,370 --> 01:49:11,790
bottom of his heart, he is
preparing to be the president of

1903
01:49:11,820 --> 01:49:15,660
all of the people of the United
States of America, and to watch

1904
01:49:15,660 --> 01:49:20,850
him bringing together people of
diverse views, bringing together

1905
01:49:20,850 --> 01:49:23,670
people that differed with him
strongly seeing him talk to

1906
01:49:23,670 --> 01:49:26,280
leaders around the world. Like,
I just want to I just want to

1907
01:49:26,280 --> 01:49:30,540
reassure every American that
that in the days ahead, I'm very

1908
01:49:30,540 --> 01:49:33,570
confident that they're gonna see
they're gonna see President

1909
01:49:33,570 --> 01:49:36,990
Elect Donald Trump and be
president for all of the people

1910
01:49:36,990 --> 01:49:39,390
wait for it. We embrace that
principle and we're gonna work

1911
01:49:39,390 --> 01:49:42,810
hard to make that principle
everyday that we serve and just

1912
01:49:42,810 --> 01:49:44,760
a button Hamilton gate up do

1913
01:49:44,760 --> 01:49:47,790
you want or expect an apology?
Well, I

1914
01:49:47,880 --> 01:49:50,700
as I said, I would just I would
leave that to others whether

1915
01:49:50,700 --> 01:49:55,080
that was the appropriate venue
for that but you know, I will

1916
01:49:55,080 --> 01:49:57,420
tell you, Chris, if you haven't
seen the show, go to see it. It

1917
01:49:57,420 --> 01:50:00,750
is a great, great show. And you
know, and I'm I'm a real history

1918
01:50:00,750 --> 01:50:04,950
buff. And so I, my daughter and
I and her cousins really enjoyed

1919
01:50:04,950 --> 01:50:05,100
it.

1920
01:50:05,610 --> 01:50:08,430
Now why does he laugh at the end
there? Is that because he's,

1921
01:50:09,270 --> 01:50:13,200
he's I'm a real history buff and
we really enjoyed it is because

1922
01:50:13,200 --> 01:50:15,810
it's historically dark or
incorrect that that was my

1923
01:50:15,810 --> 01:50:16,710
immediate thought.

1924
01:50:16,830 --> 01:50:20,550
I don't know, listening to your

1925
01:50:20,609 --> 01:50:24,299
question has to be I mean, Chris
Wallace is kind of an upper

1926
01:50:24,299 --> 01:50:25,739
class elite snood.

1927
01:50:25,980 --> 01:50:30,390
Yeah, but but it's it's pence
who's laughing. Now you Sure?

1928
01:50:30,420 --> 01:50:33,960
Yeah. Pen is a pen says, Well,
you know, I'd my real history

1929
01:50:33,960 --> 01:50:37,830
buff and my daughter and I
really enjoyed it. Because it's,

1930
01:50:37,860 --> 01:50:41,310
I don't have insurance. Jim, you
saw this as a video? Yeah.

1931
01:50:41,310 --> 01:50:42,240
Listen, listen to it again.

1932
01:50:42,630 --> 01:50:45,240
I would just I would leave that
to others, whether that was the

1933
01:50:45,240 --> 01:50:49,530
appropriate venue for that. But
you know, I will tell you,

1934
01:50:49,530 --> 01:50:52,320
Chris, if you haven't seen the
show, go to see it is a great,

1935
01:50:52,320 --> 01:50:55,590
great show. And, you know, and
I'm a real history buff. And so

1936
01:50:55,590 --> 01:50:59,220
I, my daughter, and I and her
cousins really enjoyed it.

1937
01:51:00,270 --> 01:51:02,970
I just wonder, to me, it was
just like a little thing. Like,

1938
01:51:03,000 --> 01:51:07,500
that was a little annoying. In
the last because it was black

1939
01:51:07,500 --> 01:51:10,350
people pretending to be white
people. I mean, why was he

1940
01:51:10,350 --> 01:51:10,860
laughing?

1941
01:51:10,920 --> 01:51:14,520
I didn't like it. Some things? I
don't know. I

1942
01:51:14,520 --> 01:51:16,560
have no idea. I mean, maybe
that's why I did because it's,

1943
01:51:16,560 --> 01:51:19,380
you know, it's not what you
would call it's not history.

1944
01:51:19,620 --> 01:51:23,340
It's an entertainment vehicle
that has, you know, memes of the

1945
01:51:23,340 --> 01:51:26,490
era supposedly put into song

1946
01:51:26,610 --> 01:51:30,060
and song and but you know what I
mean, right? It was just like,

1947
01:51:30,060 --> 01:51:30,930
all dramatized?

1948
01:51:30,930 --> 01:51:35,040
Yeah, just I don't know, I just,
I'm a history buff, and I saw

1949
01:51:35,040 --> 01:51:44,880
that thing. Going, yeah. That
was funny. No, no, no. Well, he

1950
01:51:44,880 --> 01:51:49,050
was magnanimous and more. I'd
say generally, okay, they booed

1951
01:51:49,050 --> 01:51:53,520
me. What are you gonna do? Yeah.
At least I didn't take a shot at

1952
01:51:53,520 --> 01:51:57,720
me in the theater, Mrs. Lincoln.
It's like that.

1953
01:51:57,750 --> 01:52:01,500
Oh, man. Well, here, this could
this could be an asset. John

1954
01:52:01,500 --> 01:52:05,610
really played a clip on. Let me
see if I still have that one

1955
01:52:05,610 --> 01:52:13,080
handy. Yep, played a clip. The
other day from that professor,

1956
01:52:13,080 --> 01:52:20,160
the author who used the N word
on CNN and pretty much made,

1957
01:52:20,670 --> 01:52:22,320
made Brooke Baldwin cry.

1958
01:52:24,030 --> 01:52:26,070
Remember that? Yeah. Doris.

1959
01:52:26,099 --> 01:52:27,959
I'll just play that for a
second. Just that one bit.

1960
01:52:28,139 --> 01:52:31,049
Let's bring in CNN political
commentator and Trump supporter

1961
01:52:31,049 --> 01:52:34,589
Paris. Dennard. Also trolls
Kaiser is with us. He's a

1962
01:52:34,589 --> 01:52:37,709
cnn.com contributor and the
author of multiple books,

1963
01:52:37,919 --> 01:52:40,829
including the cost of courage,
the story of how one French

1964
01:52:40,829 --> 01:52:45,179
family fought the Nazis during
the Paris occupation. Gentlemen,

1965
01:52:45,209 --> 01:52:48,899
welcome. And thank you, Charles.
Let me just begin with you. I

1966
01:52:48,899 --> 01:52:51,059
mean, now that you're hearing,
we're getting some of the the

1967
01:52:51,059 --> 01:52:53,309
information coming out of this
New York Times meeting that

1968
01:52:53,309 --> 01:52:58,229
Trump has disavowed this
particular group. Is that enough

1969
01:52:58,229 --> 01:52:58,799
for you?

1970
01:52:59,759 --> 01:53:04,469
Well, I'm delighted that my
sister Trump has visited my alma

1971
01:53:04,469 --> 01:53:06,869
mater at the New York Times and
said that he doesn't want to do

1972
01:53:06,869 --> 01:53:09,689
this anymore. But I want to give
him a little advice for the

1973
01:53:09,689 --> 01:53:12,419
future. If he does not want to
stimulate the alt right first

1974
01:53:12,419 --> 01:53:15,479
thing. You should never retweet
someone with the name white

1975
01:53:15,479 --> 01:53:19,259
genocide, who lists his dresses,
Jew America. That's what he did

1976
01:53:19,259 --> 01:53:23,279
in February, he asked his
supporters again to give the

1977
01:53:23,279 --> 01:53:26,249
Nazi salute, which he did at a
rally in March. That's not a

1978
01:53:26,249 --> 01:53:32,849
good idea. In July, I think it
was a mistake. In March, he

1979
01:53:32,849 --> 01:53:36,089
asked his supporters to raise
and pledged their support to his

1980
01:53:36,089 --> 01:53:39,749
candidacy and promised to vote
for him. There's plenty of video

1981
01:53:39,749 --> 01:53:42,929
of that. And then of course, in
July, he retweeted an image of

1982
01:53:42,929 --> 01:53:46,739
his opponent with these six
pointed Jewish star on it. I

1983
01:53:46,739 --> 01:53:49,829
thought that was a mistake. But
we have bigger problems here.

1984
01:53:49,829 --> 01:53:52,829
Also in July, you know, he
selected as his vice president,

1985
01:53:53,159 --> 01:53:56,519
the most homophobic man in
American public life, a person

1986
01:53:56,519 --> 01:53:59,099
who believes that gay people
actually do not have the right

1987
01:53:59,099 --> 01:54:03,119
to exist. And then you know, if
you don't want support the alt

1988
01:54:03,119 --> 01:54:07,019
right don't choose as a White
House counselor, counselor, a

1989
01:54:07,019 --> 01:54:10,439
man who uses the word nigger,
whose wife says that he

1990
01:54:10,440 --> 01:54:15,000
did not. So that was the shot
that was heard round the world

1991
01:54:15,000 --> 01:54:20,130
because a white man said nigger
on TV. Okay. Here's the question

1992
01:54:20,130 --> 01:54:25,140
for you, John. In the CNN
guidelines, are you allowed to

1993
01:54:25,140 --> 01:54:29,400
use the word nigger? Or do you
have to use N word or can

1994
01:54:29,400 --> 01:54:31,830
certain people use it? What is
it? What did what do you think

1995
01:54:31,830 --> 01:54:32,760
the guidelines are?

1996
01:54:33,330 --> 01:54:36,120
I think the guidelines would be
if you're black, you can use it.

1997
01:54:38,010 --> 01:54:40,980
You think they actually have
that written down? I would watch

1998
01:54:40,980 --> 01:54:43,590
what I'd write. Well, this came
to a head the other night with

1999
01:54:43,590 --> 01:54:47,250
our overnight sensation Don
Lemon. And actually it was a

2000
01:54:47,250 --> 01:54:51,390
broth was in on this. It was a
huge argument about whether he

2001
01:54:51,390 --> 01:54:52,650
can use that word or not.

2002
01:54:52,680 --> 01:54:57,000
We should not sanitize that word
by saying this person called

2003
01:54:57,000 --> 01:55:00,000
such and such the N word. No,
that person didn't call that

2004
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:01,980
person the N word that person
call Sonny, I know you're gonna

2005
01:55:01,980 --> 01:55:05,160
get upset. That person called
you or that person a nigger.

2006
01:55:05,160 --> 01:55:10,680
They didn't say the word can't
believe Charlotte, we are going

2007
01:55:10,680 --> 01:55:14,700
to use that word, of course,
because because we're using you

2008
01:55:14,700 --> 01:55:19,530
should know that. I do know that
I have said the entire time that

2009
01:55:19,530 --> 01:55:22,350
I've been here, I don't think we
should bastardize the word. I

2010
01:55:22,350 --> 01:55:24,720
don't think it should be used
freely in songs over and over

2011
01:55:24,720 --> 01:55:29,070
again, didn't use it, using it
in context of a story. And it is

2012
01:55:29,070 --> 01:55:32,370
relevant, you should be able to
say and in fact, I encourage

2013
01:55:32,370 --> 01:55:35,520
people to say it because you're
encouraging people to use it. As

2014
01:55:35,520 --> 01:55:38,400
you said here the impact of the
word no, I'm not encouraging

2015
01:55:38,400 --> 01:55:41,820
people to call people the N
word. I'm using it historically.

2016
01:55:42,090 --> 01:55:45,060
If you are if I'm a journalist,
a journalist or part of the

2017
01:55:45,060 --> 01:55:49,260
record, it is our job to convey
the truth and to tell people

2018
01:55:49,260 --> 01:55:53,910
reality it's our job to job to
sanitize. We're not

2019
01:55:53,940 --> 01:55:59,100
be used. There it is. If you're
calling so Marlon honcho, to use

2020
01:55:59,100 --> 01:56:01,650
our journalistic conscience, to
make sure

2021
01:56:03,030 --> 01:56:04,470
that our brawls get in there

2022
01:56:07,770 --> 01:56:10,560
using it to call someone a
derogatory name.

2023
01:56:12,660 --> 01:56:15,990
In the last two hours, I've
interviewed Cornell Brookes, the

2024
01:56:16,020 --> 01:56:19,290
president of the NAACP, Mark
boreal, the president of the

2025
01:56:19,290 --> 01:56:23,490
National Urban League, they both
wish that word would not be

2026
01:56:23,490 --> 01:56:26,550
uttered. Why do you have to use
that word instead of saying the

2027
01:56:26,550 --> 01:56:27,210
N word?

2028
01:56:27,269 --> 01:56:29,609
You don't have to use that word?
I wish that word would not be

2029
01:56:29,609 --> 01:56:32,189
uttered. I wish people would not
call each other flattering it

2030
01:56:32,189 --> 01:56:35,789
yourself but but I'm not calling
someone the word. I'm a

2031
01:56:35,789 --> 01:56:40,409
journalist. I'm supposed to use
it. We're supposed to sanitize

2032
01:56:40,409 --> 01:56:40,529
it.

2033
01:56:43,200 --> 01:56:50,520
Oh, wow. For dawn for the day.
Thank you. That's very clear.

2034
01:56:52,260 --> 01:56:55,830
Dynamite Bell and he did say
earlier in that I don't think I

2035
01:56:55,830 --> 01:56:59,820
had to clip that. You CNN says
you can use it if you use in

2036
01:56:59,820 --> 01:57:01,170
historical context.

2037
01:57:01,710 --> 01:57:05,580
Well, that's good. Progressive.
Now ahead of the

2038
01:57:05,580 --> 01:57:07,830
game. Good to go. Nice. In the

2039
01:57:07,830 --> 01:57:09,270
red of the words. What are you
gonna do?

2040
01:57:09,330 --> 01:57:13,770
Yeah. Okay,

2041
01:57:13,860 --> 01:57:15,390
well go. Well, I

2042
01:57:15,390 --> 01:57:19,350
just have a couple of things.
Yeah. Let me get my glasses.

2043
01:57:19,740 --> 01:57:22,260
I do feel the Don Lemon should
put a trigger warning and you

2044
01:57:22,260 --> 01:57:24,720
know, maybe uh, yeah, I probably
should it should have been it'd

2045
01:57:24,720 --> 01:57:29,640
be weepy people just trigger
warnings on may be used in this

2046
01:57:29,670 --> 01:57:31,080
in this show. Yeah.

2047
01:57:31,200 --> 01:57:34,080
Nigel Farage wants to be the
ambassador to the United States.

2048
01:57:34,140 --> 01:57:37,200
So he's trolling. Trump wants
him to be the ambassador. Yeah.

2049
01:57:37,800 --> 01:57:41,310
Yeah. So let's listen to the how
this evolves on CNN they have

2050
01:57:41,310 --> 01:57:44,130
him on for God knows how long
this woman had doesn't know what

2051
01:57:44,130 --> 01:57:47,580
to do with him. But you got to
keep them on. But they you know,

2052
01:57:47,580 --> 01:57:50,550
so she's asking stupid question
Faraj just driving right over

2053
01:57:50,550 --> 01:57:53,520
her. But this is Faraj one, and
talks a little bit about some of

2054
01:57:53,520 --> 01:57:56,790
the things that we talked about
on this show. In fact, our show

2055
01:57:56,790 --> 01:58:01,410
is the only one who actually
produce clips from the House of

2056
01:58:01,410 --> 01:58:04,110
Commons and where you may be
able to find one of them. Yes,

2057
01:58:04,200 --> 01:58:06,930
the House of Commons where they
sat around this was about six

2058
01:58:06,930 --> 01:58:10,800
months ago, they sat around
trying to ban Trump from coming

2059
01:58:10,800 --> 01:58:15,120
to the UK. And they made it call
them everything under the book

2060
01:58:15,120 --> 01:58:17,460
and the house in the House of
Commons. They call them a

2061
01:58:17,460 --> 01:58:20,880
buffoon, a clown and idiom.

2062
01:58:21,990 --> 01:58:24,000
I have a little bit of that if
you want to hear. I think

2063
01:58:24,000 --> 01:58:26,250
there's a little bit of that. I
think this is Britain is pretty

2064
01:58:26,250 --> 01:58:28,320
good at roasting beef. Do you
not think it's better that we

2065
01:58:28,320 --> 01:58:33,390
just roast Trump? about 1.6
billion Muslims? Thank God there

2066
01:58:33,390 --> 01:58:35,010
are 1.6 billion Trump's

2067
01:58:35,520 --> 01:58:38,790
his policy to close borders is
bonkers.

2068
01:58:38,970 --> 01:58:42,090
Donald Trump is free to be a
fool. But he's not free to be a

2069
01:58:42,090 --> 01:58:43,260
dangerous fall in Britain.

2070
01:58:43,290 --> 01:58:44,700
He is a Wozzeck.

2071
01:58:44,880 --> 01:58:49,590
His words are not comical. His
words are poisonous. Donald

2072
01:58:49,590 --> 01:58:54,840
Trump is a buffoon buffoonery
and offensive,

2073
01:58:55,050 --> 01:58:58,590
nasty, abusive racist tweets.
Not a criminal,

2074
01:58:58,620 --> 01:59:01,830
a buffoon, empathy ring, I'm
here. Let us have the

2075
01:59:01,830 --> 01:59:05,130
opportunity to challenge him or
let him go home with his tail

2076
01:59:05,130 --> 01:59:08,220
between his legs and ultimately
buffoonery should not be met

2077
01:59:08,220 --> 01:59:12,030
with a blunt instrument of a
ban, but with a classic British

2078
01:59:12,030 --> 01:59:13,860
response of ridicule.

2079
01:59:15,930 --> 01:59:19,350
buffoon, a buffoon, Natalia a
buffoon

2080
01:59:20,880 --> 01:59:24,060
so they this woman who was on
CNN, the interviewer, she

2081
01:59:24,060 --> 01:59:27,720
doesn't know this. And she
brings up some very interesting

2082
01:59:27,720 --> 01:59:30,510
points in these two clips. But
let's start with clip one.

2083
01:59:30,600 --> 01:59:33,300
Well, here's the thing and this
is what critics say yeah, this

2084
01:59:33,300 --> 01:59:36,180
is Carol, CNN
facebook.com/carol. CNN. Oh,

2085
01:59:36,180 --> 01:59:41,850
cool. Oh, actually met more.
Yes. Yes, she is a moron. She's

2086
01:59:41,850 --> 01:59:45,150
kind though. She's, she's not
offensive in the morning.

2087
01:59:45,450 --> 01:59:47,280
But she you think she knows
something?

2088
01:59:47,969 --> 01:59:49,439
She always looks like she's
gonna cry.

2089
01:59:49,469 --> 01:59:52,739
Well, here's the thing. And this
is what critics say you actually

2090
01:59:52,739 --> 01:59:55,109
met and talked with Mr. Trump
before the British Prime

2091
01:59:55,109 --> 01:59:59,099
Minister did they say that's not
a great message to be sending to

2092
01:59:59,099 --> 02:00:01,349
Britain's Prime Minister
tariffs, what do you think?

2093
02:00:02,160 --> 02:00:05,910
Well, it's unfortunate, isn't it
that nearly the entire British

2094
02:00:05,910 --> 02:00:08,970
government said derogatory
things about Donald Trump and

2095
02:00:08,970 --> 02:00:11,730
his team during the election
campaign? So they're not, you

2096
02:00:11,730 --> 02:00:15,360
know, they're not getting off on
a very good start. Whereas, you

2097
02:00:15,360 --> 02:00:18,000
know, I said, that was they
didn't agree with every single

2098
02:00:18,000 --> 02:00:21,930
thing that Mr. Trump said, I
felt his direction of travel was

2099
02:00:21,930 --> 02:00:25,230
absolutely right. And I have to
say that since November the

2100
02:00:25,230 --> 02:00:29,910
eighth, I think the way that he
is being magnanimous in victory,

2101
02:00:30,180 --> 02:00:32,430
and calling for unity, I think
it's really good news.

2102
02:00:32,670 --> 02:00:38,970
What Some say he's not being
overly lovely, magnanimous, and

2103
02:00:39,000 --> 02:00:41,550
I'm reaching out to the British
Prime Minister, because nine

2104
02:00:41,550 --> 02:00:44,250
world leaders before he actually
talked with the British prime

2105
02:00:44,250 --> 02:00:47,520
minister. And it seems to some
people that the relationship

2106
02:00:47,520 --> 02:00:50,280
between Britain's Prime Minister
and the President of the United

2107
02:00:50,280 --> 02:00:53,430
States won't be as warm as it
historically has been.

2108
02:00:54,600 --> 02:00:56,730
I think there are some fences
that need to be mended. And

2109
02:00:56,730 --> 02:01:00,000
that's because of the nature of
the negative things that were

2110
02:01:00,000 --> 02:01:03,600
said by senior conservative
politicians in Britain, about

2111
02:01:03,600 --> 02:01:06,450
Donald Trump and his candidacy.
And that's what I would like to

2112
02:01:06,450 --> 02:01:10,410
do. I would like to try to act
as a little bit of a middleman,

2113
02:01:10,860 --> 02:01:13,290
to try and mend some of this so
that we can get on with some

2114
02:01:13,290 --> 02:01:14,340
really important work.

2115
02:01:15,720 --> 02:01:19,230
Now, she obviously doesn't know
anything about the buffoonery

2116
02:01:20,010 --> 02:01:24,030
about these, but the House of
Commons actually having a

2117
02:01:24,030 --> 02:01:27,930
meeting to ban his entry into
the United States permanently,

2118
02:01:28,320 --> 02:01:32,190
as I remember. And calling him
one name after another. She was

2119
02:01:32,190 --> 02:01:34,590
clueless about that, you could
tell because she asked the same

2120
02:01:34,590 --> 02:01:35,580
question twice. And it

2121
02:01:35,580 --> 02:01:40,050
was only in there was January
21. of 2016. So

2122
02:01:40,080 --> 02:01:41,760
not even here. It wasn't that
long ago.

2123
02:01:41,790 --> 02:01:47,970
We you remembered it. That's I
mean, hello. Hello. Yeah. But ya

2124
02:01:48,000 --> 02:01:48,390
know, here

2125
02:01:48,390 --> 02:01:51,150
we go with the second part of
this, where he actually pretty

2126
02:01:51,150 --> 02:01:54,150
much promotes himself. He wants
to be the ambassador, and Trump

2127
02:01:54,150 --> 02:01:57,450
wants to be the ambassador. And
he's got rationale for this. And

2128
02:01:57,450 --> 02:02:00,390
I think he could be, he'd be the
only one who could do it because

2129
02:02:00,390 --> 02:02:03,810
everybody else is on record as
insulting him.

2130
02:02:03,839 --> 02:02:06,479
It's up to the British
government. So, you know, I

2131
02:02:06,479 --> 02:02:09,419
would, I would say to Downing
Street that I'm here to help, if

2132
02:02:09,419 --> 02:02:09,989
you want me.

2133
02:02:10,379 --> 02:02:13,739
Okay. On that note, you did
right on on Breitbart quote,

2134
02:02:13,739 --> 02:02:16,349
like a bolt from the blue Trump
tweeted out that I would do a

2135
02:02:16,349 --> 02:02:19,889
great job as the UK ambassador
to Washington, your Prime

2136
02:02:19,889 --> 02:02:22,859
Minister did not exactly welcome
the interference from an

2137
02:02:22,859 --> 02:02:26,459
American politician. And the
First Minister of Wales said, if

2138
02:02:26,459 --> 02:02:30,839
you got that job, it would be
like giving a child a chainsaw.

2139
02:02:31,169 --> 02:02:35,249
So was that the right thing to
do on Mr. Trump's part? Well,

2140
02:02:35,400 --> 02:02:37,350
I wouldn't take the Prime
Minister, I wouldn't take the

2141
02:02:37,350 --> 02:02:39,720
First Minister of Wales very
seriously. And anything that he

2142
02:02:39,720 --> 02:02:43,080
says it's remarkable that people
with that low level of ability

2143
02:02:43,440 --> 02:02:46,710
can reach so high in politics.
As far as the Prime Minister is

2144
02:02:46,710 --> 02:02:50,250
concerned, I'm in a different
political party. And they tend

2145
02:02:50,250 --> 02:02:54,030
to view things in a very tribal
way. What I have heard are lots

2146
02:02:54,030 --> 02:02:58,140
of voices in business in the
United Kingdom, saying, Wouldn't

2147
02:02:58,140 --> 02:03:00,780
this make sense? And actually,
there is some historical

2148
02:03:00,780 --> 02:03:04,140
precedent for it. You know,
we'll go all the way back to

2149
02:03:04,140 --> 02:03:08,310
Kennedy's time. You know, he
definitely had a say, in who the

2150
02:03:08,310 --> 02:03:11,550
British ambassador was in those
days, who was slated to be the

2151
02:03:11,549 --> 02:03:12,779
British ambassador. And

2152
02:03:14,760 --> 02:03:18,150
yeah, you mean instead of Faraj?
Nobody yet?

2153
02:03:18,330 --> 02:03:21,810
Okay. But there is the, like the
ambassador who sits in the

2154
02:03:21,810 --> 02:03:22,410
embassy?

2155
02:03:23,280 --> 02:03:24,420
Yeah, yeah. He

2156
02:03:25,560 --> 02:03:29,100
sits in the embassy gets a good
salary. I'll never lie. No, No.

2157
02:03:29,160 --> 02:03:30,870
and No, he'll never already.

2158
02:03:31,170 --> 02:03:36,120
Yeah, parties, of course. But
the problem is the spy part. The

2159
02:03:36,120 --> 02:03:38,280
embassies are always the spy
headquarters. They're not going

2160
02:03:38,280 --> 02:03:38,340
to

2161
02:03:38,519 --> 02:03:42,509
show you the guy usually the
British and the French and some

2162
02:03:42,509 --> 02:03:45,659
of these high end really party
like especially the American

2163
02:03:45,659 --> 02:03:48,809
Ambassador to France, for
example. Yeah. They don't tend

2164
02:03:48,809 --> 02:03:49,769
to be spies.

2165
02:03:50,610 --> 02:03:53,850
But they're always harboring the
spies in the embassies know, the

2166
02:03:53,850 --> 02:03:57,360
embassy is filled with spies.
That's not true. So

2167
02:03:57,600 --> 02:04:00,090
they can't trust him with all
the spy craft.

2168
02:04:00,420 --> 02:04:04,050
I don't think they need to. He's
just gonna be boozing it up.

2169
02:04:05,190 --> 02:04:09,750
I'm all for it. I'm all for
Faraj boozing it up in DC. I'm

2170
02:04:09,750 --> 02:04:18,120
down. Yeah. I'll be fantastic.
Now, there is something that

2171
02:04:18,120 --> 02:04:21,480
this program is uniquely
qualified to discuss if you

2172
02:04:21,480 --> 02:04:26,280
cannot really get this
conversation, or the remedy for

2173
02:04:26,280 --> 02:04:31,800
this global issue that is taking
place right under our feet. And

2174
02:04:31,800 --> 02:04:36,270
I of course, speak of the
African ant super colony poised

2175
02:04:36,300 --> 02:04:37,920
to invade the planet.

2176
02:04:39,510 --> 02:04:44,850
Oh, this is a species of ants.
Yes, you do. Have you not heard

2177
02:04:44,850 --> 02:04:50,790
about this? You think I would
have? Yes. This is the Lepus

2178
02:04:50,790 --> 02:04:53,940
Yoda ant

2179
02:04:55,380 --> 02:04:58,650
species of ant from the forests
of Ethiopia, and they look

2180
02:04:58,650 --> 02:05:02,100
poised to become a globe really
invasive species capable of

2181
02:05:02,100 --> 02:05:04,830
spreading around the world
disrupting ecosystems and

2182
02:05:04,830 --> 02:05:06,930
becoming a pest for humans?

2183
02:05:07,860 --> 02:05:10,710
What What kind of add what's
their sociology?

2184
02:05:11,880 --> 02:05:13,440
There's an sociology.

2185
02:05:13,860 --> 02:05:16,950
Oh yeah. Oh my goodness well
hang for example No Okay,

2186
02:05:16,980 --> 02:05:19,560
I'll go over this we've done
this before I'll do it again the

2187
02:05:19,560 --> 02:05:23,370
Argentinian for example, which
is the one that is the one that

2188
02:05:23,370 --> 02:05:27,750
has taken over California sorry,
and trying to get into Oregon

2189
02:05:27,750 --> 02:05:30,570
but it's mostly California right
now I know I saw Argentina and

2190
02:05:30,570 --> 02:05:34,320
the whole way up. That's a it
has a different social structure

2191
02:05:34,320 --> 02:05:37,860
than most ants and for example,
if you're in a hive one and

2192
02:05:37,860 --> 02:05:40,560
there's another ant colony
across the street and hive two,

2193
02:05:40,620 --> 02:05:43,830
I have I have your answer. I
have the sociology I found it.

2194
02:05:44,340 --> 02:05:44,760
Okay, well,

2195
02:05:44,760 --> 02:05:49,410
let me finish this. Yes. The
info I'm I'm a part of Colony

2196
02:05:49,410 --> 02:05:54,600
one and I've got my colony gets
wiped out. I am gladly accepted

2197
02:05:54,600 --> 02:05:58,740
into colony to as a fellow and
as opposed to most ants, which

2198
02:05:58,740 --> 02:05:59,280
will kill

2199
02:05:59,280 --> 02:06:01,230
me. Damn,

2200
02:06:01,350 --> 02:06:05,460
it's an businesses serious. Oh,
yeah. All right, the species

2201
02:06:05,460 --> 02:06:11,880
leprosy Yoda Kana sense, is
showing signs it forms the super

2202
02:06:11,880 --> 02:06:15,240
colonies which are colonies
comprised of more than one nest.

2203
02:06:15,480 --> 02:06:18,420
The Super colonies allow a
single species of ants to spread

2204
02:06:18,420 --> 02:06:22,140
out over a large territory, a
key step to becoming an invasive

2205
02:06:22,140 --> 02:06:25,800
species. This concern is a group
of researchers from various

2206
02:06:25,800 --> 02:06:28,530
institutions in America and
Ethiopia who published a study

2207
02:06:28,530 --> 02:06:31,560
on the ants this week in the
journal insect pests are sure,

2208
02:06:31,740 --> 02:06:35,970
which would be social insects.
They observed one similar

2209
02:06:35,970 --> 02:06:39,510
species of ant in the same
genus, the leprosy Oda have

2210
02:06:39,510 --> 02:06:42,660
invaded South Africa's Kruger
National Park and another

2211
02:06:42,660 --> 02:06:46,410
temporarily shut down
Australians, Australia's Darwin

2212
02:06:46,410 --> 02:06:48,840
port after the ants were
discovered amongst the cargo.

2213
02:06:49,560 --> 02:06:50,910
So they're out there on the
loose.

2214
02:06:54,600 --> 02:06:58,740
Well, I would like to see what
happens when this colony the

2215
02:06:58,740 --> 02:07:01,980
African colony, the Ethiopian
antibody, are they big? Are they

2216
02:07:01,980 --> 02:07:03,120
small? What's the size?

2217
02:07:03,810 --> 02:07:07,350
I'm seeing them here they had
they have just killed a termite.

2218
02:07:07,710 --> 02:07:10,380
And they they look to be about
half the size of the termite

2219
02:07:10,560 --> 02:07:15,360
and I would like to see them up
against the Argentinian ant and

2220
02:07:15,360 --> 02:07:18,570
see what happens if you have
like, what 20 of these ants and

2221
02:07:18,570 --> 02:07:21,480
20 Argentinian ants in the in
the same room and see what

2222
02:07:21,480 --> 02:07:23,820
happens I would also like to see
when one hive is near an

2223
02:07:23,820 --> 02:07:27,630
Argentinean hive and then we
still have the fire ants which

2224
02:07:27,630 --> 02:07:30,060
are you know, here and there and
they were pretty nasty and they

2225
02:07:30,090 --> 02:07:33,030
would kill everything. Yeah, I
don't know. I don't know. I

2226
02:07:33,030 --> 02:07:36,480
think it's a challenge to get in
get inroads into the American

2227
02:07:36,540 --> 02:07:37,110
ant.

2228
02:07:37,380 --> 02:07:38,160
A Gemini

2229
02:07:39,660 --> 02:07:43,260
Yeah, because our ants just
don't want any old Ethiopian

2230
02:07:43,260 --> 02:07:44,610
ants just taken over.

2231
02:07:45,210 --> 02:07:51,150
I wouldn't think unless the fear
that I have I'm sorry. The fear

2232
02:07:51,150 --> 02:07:56,280
that I have the fear wise Yeah.
Is that these ants come over and

2233
02:07:56,280 --> 02:08:01,200
make friends and make allies Oh,
of the Argentinian ants and they

2234
02:08:01,200 --> 02:08:03,390
live in harmony tearing up the
place.

2235
02:08:03,480 --> 02:08:07,770
Is that possible? Do ants from
different tribes do that often

2236
02:08:07,889 --> 02:08:10,109
is the limit of my knowledge.
Okay.

2237
02:08:11,160 --> 02:08:14,160
Well, there's something here
about the about the Argentinian

2238
02:08:14,160 --> 02:08:17,250
and it's perhaps the most famous
example the super colony builder

2239
02:08:17,250 --> 02:08:19,710
of course, we have the ants
spread across roughly two and a

2240
02:08:19,710 --> 02:08:22,440
half 1000 miles of Western
Europe, including parts of

2241
02:08:22,440 --> 02:08:25,320
Spain, France, Italy and
Portugal in the US California is

2242
02:08:25,320 --> 02:08:28,710
home to an Argentinian and super
colony spanning more than 500

2243
02:08:28,710 --> 02:08:32,640
miles. That's because in their
non native habitats they can

2244
02:08:32,640 --> 02:08:36,930
thrive once in a region the
invasive ants drive out native

2245
02:08:36,930 --> 02:08:41,670
and populations and through an
war and though an wars man and

2246
02:08:41,670 --> 02:08:47,010
wars may seem This is hey, this
is at least a cartoon but maybe

2247
02:08:47,010 --> 02:08:51,870
a feature film and wars and wars
you thought you'd seen all the

2248
02:08:51,870 --> 02:08:53,970
problems in the world and then

2249
02:08:54,000 --> 02:08:55,620
came the EDS.

2250
02:08:57,360 --> 02:09:02,790
The the Argentinians and assault
on native California and species

2251
02:09:02,790 --> 02:09:05,640
has also led to declines in
predators that fed on those

2252
02:09:05,640 --> 02:09:14,610
native and such as the coastal
horned lizard sea see not to

2253
02:09:14,610 --> 02:09:16,560
there's nothing else I just
wonder if they're just trying to

2254
02:09:16,620 --> 02:09:18,420
get some money to study this and

2255
02:09:19,320 --> 02:09:20,670
maybe possible.

2256
02:09:21,059 --> 02:09:24,449
Anyway, I would you please keep
an eye on that because you are

2257
02:09:24,479 --> 02:09:27,089
the resident and expert. Yeah, I

2258
02:09:27,089 --> 02:09:29,069
will look into this. This is
something that I have to I'm

2259
02:09:29,069 --> 02:09:30,449
concerned about already. Yeah.

2260
02:09:30,480 --> 02:09:34,110
Thank you. Okay,

2261
02:09:34,559 --> 02:09:38,429
I just I'm this is a clip that I
had left over from Thursday. I

2262
02:09:38,429 --> 02:09:41,549
don't know why it's here. I
think it just played I guess it

2263
02:09:41,549 --> 02:09:45,059
was a an idea to keep it here.
This was regarding the here's

2264
02:09:45,059 --> 02:09:47,789
the name of the clip. I don't
know what it is Trump press pool

2265
02:09:47,789 --> 02:09:50,999
versus Obama's. Oh, okay.
Remember what it is. This is,

2266
02:09:51,179 --> 02:09:53,849
you know, Trump is a member. He
dumped his press corps and it's

2267
02:09:54,029 --> 02:09:57,509
horrible and he's not doing it
right. And he's not following

2268
02:09:57,509 --> 02:10:01,049
me. I ditched him. He's not
following protocol. All and

2269
02:10:01,049 --> 02:10:05,489
traditions and exist tradition
and all that crap. You know,

2270
02:10:05,819 --> 02:10:07,559
just remind everybody

2271
02:10:08,580 --> 02:10:09,360
that

2272
02:10:10,800 --> 02:10:12,420
the Obamas were not much better.

2273
02:10:12,630 --> 02:10:15,780
In another rebuke to the press
that Trump denied access to his

2274
02:10:15,780 --> 02:10:18,450
meeting with the Japanese Prime
Minister. Later in the week.

2275
02:10:18,750 --> 02:10:21,990
There was a photo taken it was a
handout photo, which means it's

2276
02:10:21,990 --> 02:10:25,260
basically a visual press
release, most major news outlets

2277
02:10:25,260 --> 02:10:29,340
agreed to work together and
agreed not to show the photo as

2278
02:10:29,340 --> 02:10:30,540
a form of protest. That's

2279
02:10:30,540 --> 02:10:32,820
Can you believe that? I know we
talked about that thing briefly.

2280
02:10:32,820 --> 02:10:35,730
But it still bugs me It bugs me
didn't shit does.

2281
02:10:35,730 --> 02:10:38,220
But yeah, it's worth what is
their

2282
02:10:38,220 --> 02:10:41,400
job to report the news. But they

2283
02:10:41,400 --> 02:10:44,100
feel like all they've got is a
photo they run the photo or they

2284
02:10:44,100 --> 02:10:46,350
don't run the photo, but they
don't do if they don't get to

2285
02:10:46,350 --> 02:10:49,290
run the photo. That has to be an
editorial decision. It's not

2286
02:10:49,290 --> 02:10:53,100
done as a protest. If you said
editorially, I think this photo

2287
02:10:53,100 --> 02:10:55,500
stinks. Can we get anything
else? No, it was just write a

2288
02:10:55,500 --> 02:11:00,090
little story. That's fine. But
I'm not running it as a protest.

2289
02:11:00,090 --> 02:11:01,590
And notice it's not fine. I

2290
02:11:01,590 --> 02:11:05,430
noticed they coordinated the
Khoisan, we coordinated,

2291
02:11:05,460 --> 02:11:06,480
but just nibblers.

2292
02:11:07,500 --> 02:11:11,100
So one question I forgot. Do you
think that the the Ethiopian

2293
02:11:11,370 --> 02:11:13,050
Ethiopian entity tastes good?

2294
02:11:14,520 --> 02:11:17,430
I'm sure somebody knows it'd be
crunchy peppery.

2295
02:11:17,910 --> 02:11:21,510
That'd be either all peppery.
I'm pretty sure. Let's continue.

2296
02:11:21,540 --> 02:11:24,510
While you didn't see it in the
news coverage. These kinds of

2297
02:11:24,510 --> 02:11:28,620
choices are made by news outlets
in order to take a stand. We

2298
02:11:28,620 --> 02:11:31,650
also heard from 15 Different
journalism advocacy groups this

2299
02:11:31,650 --> 02:11:34,950
week, all urging the President
elect to not only provide a

2300
02:11:34,950 --> 02:11:38,760
press pool, but also take other
steps toward transparency. So

2301
02:11:38,760 --> 02:11:41,460
let's talk about this rocky
start. Yeah, there's any reason

2302
02:11:41,460 --> 02:11:44,010
to think it might get better. So
Ben, we have seen some access

2303
02:11:44,010 --> 02:11:46,890
this weekend, President elect
Trump greeting visitors to his

2304
02:11:46,890 --> 02:11:50,220
golf resort. Do you think this
is a positive sign something

2305
02:11:50,220 --> 02:11:52,920
that we should we should
actually be acknowledging and

2306
02:11:52,920 --> 02:11:56,160
thanking him for? Or is this
just the kind of bare minimum

2307
02:11:56,160 --> 02:11:58,800
the bare minimum acceptable
standard for access to the

2308
02:11:58,800 --> 02:11:59,220
President?

2309
02:11:59,670 --> 02:12:02,490
Look, I think the the the
expectation that he's going to

2310
02:12:02,490 --> 02:12:05,730
make himself available to the
press is a good one. And I hope

2311
02:12:05,730 --> 02:12:08,550
that he does do that, especially
after he becomes president. I

2312
02:12:08,550 --> 02:12:10,410
think there may be some
different standards for

2313
02:12:10,410 --> 02:12:12,540
President elects than President
but and would know that better

2314
02:12:12,540 --> 02:12:15,510
than I would. But beyond that,
you know, that the fact is that

2315
02:12:15,540 --> 02:12:17,550
the press access for the last
eight years has been quite

2316
02:12:17,550 --> 02:12:20,040
terrible. And many members of
the press have complained about

2317
02:12:20,040 --> 02:12:22,740
this. I mean, the White House
was releasing its own photos and

2318
02:12:22,740 --> 02:12:26,010
tapes of events and not not
really allowing the press to

2319
02:12:26,010 --> 02:12:28,050
cover it in the way that the
press wanted to cover it. For

2320
02:12:28,050 --> 02:12:30,690
years. The DOJ was targeting
people at the AP. I mean,

2321
02:12:30,720 --> 02:12:32,820
there's been a lot of problems
between the White House and the

2322
02:12:32,820 --> 02:12:34,410
press long predating Donald
Trump.

2323
02:12:34,440 --> 02:12:38,100
You see what I'm hearing here.
This is well, they did just

2324
02:12:38,100 --> 02:12:40,710
saying, well, he's not following
protocol, because they want to

2325
02:12:40,710 --> 02:12:44,970
get back to where they already
been shut out by Obama. Yeah,

2326
02:12:45,000 --> 02:12:45,810
that's what he's saying.

2327
02:12:46,650 --> 02:12:48,690
And I remember because they have
that staffer talking to

2328
02:12:48,690 --> 02:12:51,240
you remember that to Obama's
always bitching about the press?

2329
02:12:51,270 --> 02:12:51,630
Yeah.

2330
02:12:51,720 --> 02:12:54,060
That's not an excuse for Trump
to not do the right thing here

2331
02:12:54,090 --> 02:12:56,400
the right thing in context? And
is that

2332
02:12:57,840 --> 02:13:02,010
the right thing is what
protocol? Is tradition, the

2333
02:13:02,010 --> 02:13:04,620
right thing? What we want with
the press dammit, what do you

2334
02:13:04,620 --> 02:13:06,480
think you are you podcast?

2335
02:13:06,480 --> 02:13:09,690
Are you bad? Wasn't with the
Obama administration versus say,

2336
02:13:09,690 --> 02:13:11,640
the Bush administration or the
Clinton administration?

2337
02:13:11,790 --> 02:13:14,760
Well, I don't think President
Obama has a perfect record on

2338
02:13:14,760 --> 02:13:18,270
this very often in meetings that
he holds within the White House,

2339
02:13:18,480 --> 02:13:21,420
conducting the Office of
President, the White House will

2340
02:13:21,420 --> 02:13:24,660
offer us a still photograph, or
put their own video on the

2341
02:13:24,690 --> 02:13:29,160
whitehouse.gov website. The kind
of kind of meetings which

2342
02:13:29,160 --> 02:13:31,800
traditionally with his
predecessors, or press pool

2343
02:13:31,800 --> 02:13:35,550
would always come in and get
some video in person watching

2344
02:13:35,550 --> 02:13:39,210
the president rather than be
having to be handed material.

2345
02:13:39,390 --> 02:13:42,630
That's the new media age, we've
given the tools of journalism,

2346
02:13:42,630 --> 02:13:44,760
including Twitter, to the
president center, the

2347
02:13:44,760 --> 02:13:45,660
candidates. Now you

2348
02:13:45,660 --> 02:13:47,580
see a theme there, they're
starting to realize they're

2349
02:13:47,580 --> 02:13:53,070
screwed. And they all think that
they have handed Twitter to the

2350
02:13:53,070 --> 02:13:58,290
press handed Twitter. No, no,
no. Know where you're watching

2351
02:13:58,290 --> 02:14:02,640
the slow motion demise of the
press. It's real slow motion. I

2352
02:14:02,640 --> 02:14:05,550
don't know if the show will
outlast the crash. But

2353
02:14:06,360 --> 02:14:07,140
it's happening.

2354
02:14:08,220 --> 02:14:11,250
It's where Yeah, and it's been
happening for a while. Yeah, it

2355
02:14:11,250 --> 02:14:16,170
actually began with television.
You really want to look at the

2356
02:14:16,170 --> 02:14:18,240
numbers and you want to look at
ways things are going during the

2357
02:14:18,270 --> 02:14:20,910
Nixon administration. It was
getting so bad that the media

2358
02:14:20,910 --> 02:14:23,970
had to have these joint
operating agreements on these

2359
02:14:24,150 --> 02:14:26,880
various cities. It's when I'm in
San Francisco, happened in Los

2360
02:14:26,880 --> 02:14:28,140
Angeles. It happened and it was

2361
02:14:28,140 --> 02:14:30,930
that fast for advertising. You
mean for the advertising? Yeah.

2362
02:14:30,930 --> 02:14:31,620
Right. And what

2363
02:14:31,620 --> 02:14:34,500
they did was they're losing
their ass and this is before

2364
02:14:34,500 --> 02:14:35,160
Craigslist,

2365
02:14:35,160 --> 02:14:37,980
but they're doing this again,
aren't they? This these these

2366
02:14:38,010 --> 02:14:39,150
deals in markets?

2367
02:14:39,180 --> 02:14:41,820
I think the deals are long done,
and I think they're still I

2368
02:14:41,820 --> 02:14:44,880
don't know what the deals are
doing today. I think they're all

2369
02:14:44,880 --> 02:14:47,640
I know is that they had these
deals they would do these deals

2370
02:14:47,640 --> 02:14:51,330
that take two minutes to press
operations that were competing

2371
02:14:51,330 --> 02:14:55,950
against each other and give them
a advertising monopoly. And they

2372
02:14:55,950 --> 02:14:58,830
would be the same newspaper it
usually one in the afternoon and

2373
02:14:58,830 --> 02:15:01,740
one in the evening. The The
evening papers all Good morning.

2374
02:15:01,740 --> 02:15:03,900
I'm sorry, one in the morning
and one in the afternoon. And

2375
02:15:03,900 --> 02:15:07,560
the afternoon papers all die
because of TV. And it was TV

2376
02:15:07,560 --> 02:15:10,080
that was impinging people were
going to watch TV to get their

2377
02:15:10,080 --> 02:15:12,990
news because the reports were
easier to digest, or they didn't

2378
02:15:12,990 --> 02:15:15,450
want to read a lot. I don't
know. I think a lot of it had to

2379
02:15:15,450 --> 02:15:18,270
do with the designs and the way
they were presenting the news. I

2380
02:15:18,810 --> 02:15:21,600
look at old newspapers in the
newspaper reading room once in a

2381
02:15:21,600 --> 02:15:25,890
while and you get that cow? You
mean your basement? No. And cow,

2382
02:15:25,950 --> 02:15:31,470
I don't have I do have a lot of
stuff nowadays. Online. But it's

2383
02:15:31,470 --> 02:15:35,310
like it they they've been
scrambling since the 70s. And is

2384
02:15:35,340 --> 02:15:38,100
every it's just keeps ratcheting
down. It's just been it's

2385
02:15:38,100 --> 02:15:40,770
accelerating, I think a little
bit because of the internet. But

2386
02:15:41,340 --> 02:15:44,370
they're just and they're just
oblivious to it or they don't

2387
02:15:44,370 --> 02:15:45,120
know what to do.

2388
02:15:45,150 --> 02:15:47,550
I could I could by the way I
could solve this problem for

2389
02:15:47,550 --> 02:15:51,930
them in 24 hours, that would be
solved. It would be solved for

2390
02:15:51,930 --> 02:15:55,590
everybody, but they're too
chickenshit to do it. Okay, you

2391
02:15:55,590 --> 02:15:59,100
ready? Did this the fix is
obvious. The only reason why

2392
02:15:59,100 --> 02:16:02,760
advertising works on radio and
television. Just make them make

2393
02:16:02,760 --> 02:16:07,410
it simple. But we'll add in the
web. I'm sorry, I had

2394
02:16:07,410 --> 02:16:11,970
newspapers. The only reason is
because they have agreed to

2395
02:16:11,970 --> 02:16:16,080
standards and organizations that
oversee these standards known as

2396
02:16:16,080 --> 02:16:19,920
circulation and ratings. That
Nielsen doesn't actually know

2397
02:16:19,920 --> 02:16:22,020
how many people are watching.
They don't know if people are

2398
02:16:22,020 --> 02:16:24,360
brain dead in front of the TV.
All the things you hear about

2399
02:16:24,360 --> 02:16:27,000
podcasts will be downloaded. But
we don't know if you listen to

2400
02:16:27,000 --> 02:16:30,420
it. No, you don't know you don't
know. With radio, you have some

2401
02:16:30,420 --> 02:16:33,720
diary still to people are
apparently being honest.

2402
02:16:33,720 --> 02:16:35,820
Although a lot of people write
in and listen to the no agenda

2403
02:16:35,820 --> 02:16:39,930
show may not work very well for
your overall ratings hit Z 100.

2404
02:16:41,250 --> 02:16:45,540
And if they would only agree,
okay, this is a standards body

2405
02:16:45,540 --> 02:16:49,710
and we agree to this, then it
would be a game over as long as

2406
02:16:49,740 --> 02:16:54,060
as long as they can have a
industry wide support of

2407
02:16:54,060 --> 02:16:57,810
whatever the the metric is, it
would work but they're afraid to

2408
02:16:57,810 --> 02:17:00,360
do it because they know they
then they really have to

2409
02:17:00,360 --> 02:17:03,750
compete. That's why it's not
happening. That is the answer.

2410
02:17:03,750 --> 02:17:05,280
24 hours and I've got it done.

2411
02:17:05,820 --> 02:17:09,600
And what did you do? Well, I

2412
02:17:09,600 --> 02:17:12,060
would just create a standards
body until everyone here

2413
02:17:12,059 --> 02:17:14,189
is a standard rates and data.
There's a bunch of standards

2414
02:17:14,189 --> 02:17:14,819
bodies for news,

2415
02:17:14,820 --> 02:17:19,140
meiotic nosing. No, I'm saying
online online. There is no

2416
02:17:19,140 --> 02:17:20,550
single standards body

2417
02:17:20,550 --> 02:17:22,650
there is no I'm just telling
you. So this is the way to save

2418
02:17:22,650 --> 02:17:24,900
the newspapers. Yeah, by going
online.

2419
02:17:24,900 --> 02:17:27,390
I'm sorry, I didn't make it
clear. If they're online with a

2420
02:17:27,390 --> 02:17:31,560
little podcast, and they've been
there and in their stories. And

2421
02:17:31,560 --> 02:17:36,450
they have some form of actually
accepted agreed to metric that

2422
02:17:36,450 --> 02:17:40,110
everyone that everyone's on
board with. You can even call it

2423
02:17:40,110 --> 02:17:42,390
hits. I don't give a shit what
it is. It doesn't matter.

2424
02:17:42,420 --> 02:17:48,720
My take on what your take is all
right. It would accelerate their

2425
02:17:48,720 --> 02:17:49,350
demise.

2426
02:17:49,380 --> 02:17:52,530
Why do you have to give my plan
away? Dammit.

2427
02:17:54,420 --> 02:17:57,960
They would be toast overnight.
Thanks. And most of these

2428
02:17:57,960 --> 02:17:59,250
podcasts would be to

2429
02:17:59,280 --> 02:18:03,120
Yes. Yes. Yes. But

2430
02:18:03,150 --> 02:18:07,140
unless they adopted our specific
model, which

2431
02:18:07,139 --> 02:18:09,419
is as you know, the value for
value model

2432
02:18:11,850 --> 02:18:15,030
to no agenda. Imagine all the
people who could do that. Oh,

2433
02:18:15,030 --> 02:18:15,930
yeah, that'd be fun.

2434
02:18:27,180 --> 02:18:27,930
Indeed.

2435
02:18:29,730 --> 02:18:32,610
Let's start off by thanking a
few people who helped us produce

2436
02:18:32,610 --> 02:18:35,790
the show. Yeah. And that's one
of the things is one of our

2437
02:18:35,970 --> 02:18:39,510
things we do we we find people
that help us and we mentioned

2438
02:18:39,510 --> 02:18:43,740
them. And in this case, what a
concept what a concept, Baronet

2439
02:18:43,740 --> 02:18:46,980
Donald Barofsky of the fire
bottles in Spokane Valley.

2440
02:18:47,280 --> 02:18:51,600
$188.88. And he does have a note
on the United Federation of

2441
02:18:51,600 --> 02:18:51,930
Planets.

2442
02:18:52,619 --> 02:18:55,559
Yes, we always have to break for
that. Yeah, always stop and for

2443
02:18:55,559 --> 02:18:58,529
that, you're going to do
nothing. You guys could blow us

2444
02:18:58,529 --> 02:18:59,939
up out of the water. You got to
do it.

2445
02:18:59,969 --> 02:19:04,199
I Tim ITM John and Adam. Let me
get something and put him behind

2446
02:19:04,199 --> 02:19:07,319
this ITM John, an advocate of
sons like going through and

2447
02:19:07,319 --> 02:19:10,589
reading both sides, your $100
Plus a bunch of aids for the H

2448
02:19:10,589 --> 02:19:13,709
series. No agenda shows. Thanks
for all the insightful post

2449
02:19:13,709 --> 02:19:17,909
election analysis. One last
election item here in Washington

2450
02:19:17,909 --> 02:19:21,929
State everyone votes are posted.
I didn't know this. By the way.

2451
02:19:22,859 --> 02:19:25,619
Even though I waited on vote in
Washington State, everyone's

2452
02:19:25,619 --> 02:19:29,699
votes are posted online by name
by the state. In high school

2453
02:19:29,699 --> 02:19:32,159
civics class I was taught that a
secret ballot was one of the

2454
02:19:32,159 --> 02:19:35,369
cornerstones of our government,
and that only dictatorships and

2455
02:19:35,369 --> 02:19:40,589
banana republics made voting
records public ah, sell your

2456
02:19:40,589 --> 02:19:43,829
vote in Washington State no need
to take a picture of your ballot

2457
02:19:43,829 --> 02:19:46,739
the state will provide proof of
performance to the purchaser

2458
02:19:47,369 --> 02:19:49,829
curious and bear I didn't know.
I didn't know. I didn't know

2459
02:19:49,829 --> 02:19:55,169
that night. I should know that.
I did. Wha six oh am I got

2460
02:19:55,199 --> 02:19:57,629
seven threes kilo five Alpha
Charlie Charlie

2461
02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:03,630
And anyway, that's always a good
to hear from the Baronet. Yep.

2462
02:20:03,720 --> 02:20:12,510
Brian McConnell $101.05 In
Trimble $100 Jay Jason Werner

2463
02:20:12,510 --> 02:20:19,260
$100 Scott Wald her 8888 Find
the keyboard in

2464
02:20:19,320 --> 02:20:22,380
school said he heard DD Dinah
was triggered to donate.

2465
02:20:23,220 --> 02:20:27,750
DD Dinah. We have a we have a
copy. That's very good song.

2466
02:20:27,930 --> 02:20:31,560
I think we we discussed it on
the show, didn't we? Yeah,

2467
02:20:31,560 --> 02:20:35,220
we discussed how addictive it
is. It took me two months to get

2468
02:20:35,220 --> 02:20:41,220
it out of my head of my Dinah
Ed. Sir Kevin McLaughlin locusts

2469
02:20:41,220 --> 02:20:49,620
North Carolina 8888 is a two way
video. Is it Yeah, yeah.

2470
02:20:51,540 --> 02:20:53,490
Maybe it'll trigger a whole
bunch of other people. John.

2471
02:20:53,490 --> 02:20:54,120
That's what I'm thinking.

2472
02:20:59,100 --> 02:21:01,230
Maybe not. Might,

2473
02:21:01,500 --> 02:21:04,620
they'd like to catch you June
Eric Hof and Edmonton, Alberta

2474
02:21:04,620 --> 02:21:10,230
ADA. Ken Lawson. By the way.
You've got a birthday coming up.

2475
02:21:10,230 --> 02:21:16,320
And you mentioned Joe Vlasic in
Reno Nevada birthday a 8008 This

2476
02:21:16,320 --> 02:21:19,740
is the Booba donation.

2477
02:21:19,770 --> 02:21:23,670
Oh yeah, hold on. We had a we
had a new boob. I had a new

2478
02:21:23,670 --> 02:21:23,970
right.

2479
02:21:30,060 --> 02:21:37,800
Ah, every other boob discover
from the newsletter was Sherry

2480
02:21:37,800 --> 02:21:43,800
Laurie and Seaholm Victoria
Australia 808. She says she got

2481
02:21:43,800 --> 02:21:48,180
herself some boobs for a
birthday on the 25th Sir Robert

2482
02:21:48,210 --> 02:21:51,510
smiley, double nickels on the
dime Josh McDonald double

2483
02:21:51,510 --> 02:21:55,920
nickels on the Dinah's 55 Tandy,
you. Thomas Lane double nickels

2484
02:21:55,920 --> 02:22:02,730
on the dime. Mercy Mercia, I
think is mercy as soyka thinking

2485
02:22:03,180 --> 02:22:11,340
she's in Rome, I guess no aro is
what Romania. Constanta Romania.

2486
02:22:12,060 --> 02:22:16,530
That's great. We got to Romania
and now 10 divine intelligence,

2487
02:22:16,890 --> 02:22:20,550
Ross chirpin and Troy, Kansas
50. These are all $50 donors.

2488
02:22:20,550 --> 02:22:22,860
I'm gonna name them and say
where they're from, if they're

2489
02:22:22,860 --> 02:22:27,690
from anywhere, Peter tau tase
who I thought, Sir, Sir Peter

2490
02:22:27,690 --> 02:22:32,310
totake Sir Peter Jyoti's Parts
Unknown. Adam deploy in Milton,

2491
02:22:32,310 --> 02:22:38,010
Florida. Brian Bryn Evans Parts
Unknown Donald nappy, Aaron and

2492
02:22:38,010 --> 02:22:42,420
as Bruins in Australia somewhere
down nappy are in Oviedo,

2493
02:22:42,600 --> 02:22:47,400
Florida, it gives us a lot shad
rich and you know where parts

2494
02:22:47,400 --> 02:22:51,150
unknown Marta? Kallstrom
Portland, Oregon, and last but

2495
02:22:51,150 --> 02:22:53,790
not least is a shortlist today
because nobody's list and

2496
02:22:53,940 --> 02:22:57,360
Thanksgiving weekend they're all
driving or there's something and

2497
02:22:57,360 --> 02:23:02,280
Steven Kirkpatrick and Langley
WASHINGTON It's the other

2498
02:23:02,280 --> 02:23:06,180
Langley the other Lang Lang
Langley. Anyway.

2499
02:23:06,990 --> 02:23:09,900
All right, everybody. Thank you.
Awesome. Thank you everyone

2500
02:23:09,900 --> 02:23:13,110
under $50 Usually for reasons of
anonymity but a lot of people on

2501
02:23:13,110 --> 02:23:16,380
the layaway plans for
knighthood. A lot of people just

2502
02:23:16,380 --> 02:23:19,500
supporting us with what they can
and all of that is appreciated

2503
02:23:19,500 --> 02:23:23,940
but also of course the clips the
jingles hard work the ideas chat

2504
02:23:23,940 --> 02:23:27,630
room even today. Yeah, doing
good. Yeah, I think I set them

2505
02:23:27,630 --> 02:23:32,430
straight John the chat room I'm
happy. Good. Yeah. And they're

2506
02:23:32,430 --> 02:23:34,920
even complimenting your recorder
playing today even I know it's

2507
02:23:34,920 --> 02:23:38,250
not a recorder What is it again?
Oh, this is a recording Oh,

2508
02:23:38,310 --> 02:23:40,410
well playing have recorded with
the other thing, which is the

2509
02:23:40,410 --> 02:23:43,950
tone net sounds I'll show you
the difference. Okay, actually,

2510
02:23:44,100 --> 02:23:46,290
the tone net actually has a
sound that you can

2511
02:23:52,350 --> 02:23:55,560
I can play that tune it a little
bit. All right, a recorder. I

2512
02:23:55,560 --> 02:23:58,050
don't know how anyone plays this
thing. If you blow harder, it

2513
02:23:58,050 --> 02:24:00,990
changes the note without
changing any of the notes. So

2514
02:24:00,990 --> 02:24:05,280
I'm just gonna say this guy's an
idiot. Okay, yeah, I am an

2515
02:24:05,280 --> 02:24:09,210
idiot. Possibly. But like I'm
just I'm not going to do

2516
02:24:09,210 --> 02:24:11,820
anything. I get the thing locked
down so it's no finger gonna

2517
02:24:11,820 --> 02:24:12,390
have an illicit

2518
02:24:15,000 --> 02:24:22,290
Oh, that hurts. That hurts. You
can't play. You can't play a

2519
02:24:22,290 --> 02:24:26,160
single song on that say I mean,
I even I can play a song on the

2520
02:24:26,160 --> 02:24:27,510
record or the toe net.

2521
02:24:28,110 --> 02:24:30,540
The toe net. I can probably play
something but this thing is

2522
02:24:30,540 --> 02:24:32,880
going to be a little more
difficult. I gotta get to get a

2523
02:24:32,880 --> 02:24:36,690
little book on it. I don't know.
I can barely get it. What? No, I

2524
02:24:36,690 --> 02:24:39,990
think it is time since you've
obviously mastered the

2525
02:24:39,990 --> 02:24:42,330
harmonica. It is time for the
Tonette

2526
02:24:43,410 --> 02:24:44,160
toe net.

2527
02:24:46,260 --> 02:24:48,270
Alright, everybody, we got
another show coming up on

2528
02:24:48,270 --> 02:24:53,580
Thursday. Remember us at
borah.org/and And just in case

2529
02:24:53,580 --> 02:24:56,550
anyone out there needs the
lecture karma. You've got karma

2530
02:24:56,550 --> 02:24:58,440
we always got a little dose for
you.

2531
02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:08,670
He and Joe Blazek celebrated on
the 23rd we say happy birthday

2532
02:25:08,670 --> 02:25:12,060
to him Sherry Laurie on the 25th
as Sir Kevin McLaughlin will be

2533
02:25:12,060 --> 02:25:16,590
celebrating on the 31st and Sir
Robert smiley turns 55 Tomorrow

2534
02:25:16,590 --> 02:25:19,170
we congratulate all of you on
behalf of the staff and

2535
02:25:19,170 --> 02:25:21,660
management on the interns have
the best podcast in the

2536
02:25:21,660 --> 02:25:27,270
universe. And we have one night
he's not a black knight but he

2537
02:25:27,270 --> 02:25:31,410
is appreciated nonetheless Of
course, Lee all of our us if you

2538
02:25:31,410 --> 02:25:34,650
can all be careful be careful be
careful, John, just get your

2539
02:25:34,650 --> 02:25:35,160
sword now

2540
02:25:35,190 --> 02:25:37,140
I happen to think that okay,

2541
02:25:38,340 --> 02:25:41,130
we got a virus please sir. Once
you step on up Come over here.

2542
02:25:42,090 --> 02:25:45,210
Thank you very much for coming
in with a big ad today that was

2543
02:25:45,210 --> 02:25:51,420
highly appreciated and you have
now reached the pinnacle of no

2544
02:25:51,420 --> 02:25:55,320
agenda producer ship and you are
allowed to join the table of the

2545
02:25:55,320 --> 02:25:57,780
Dames and the Knights of the
roundtable. So for you my

2546
02:25:57,780 --> 02:26:01,650
friend, we have bunkers and blow
red boys and Chardonnay, Sofo

2547
02:26:01,650 --> 02:26:05,640
and spice mangos and filet
mignon samosa and Chai poutine

2548
02:26:05,640 --> 02:26:08,430
and rye whiskey, garlic and
broccoli, black holes and MD

2549
02:26:08,430 --> 02:26:12,090
2020. Bad science and turkey
breasts, Saki and sushi hookers

2550
02:26:12,090 --> 02:26:16,320
in Mali. We got hookah and blow
ice cream and bear fillings, hot

2551
02:26:16,320 --> 02:26:19,230
pans and booze gauges and sakeI
Baka Villa bong hits and

2552
02:26:19,230 --> 02:26:22,470
bourbon, ginger ale and
durables. And of course, the

2553
02:26:22,500 --> 02:26:26,760
mutton and Mead here for you.
Head on over to no agenda

2554
02:26:26,760 --> 02:26:30,900
nation.com/rings Give Eric all
your info and tweet it out when

2555
02:26:30,900 --> 02:26:38,520
it comes in. I want to mention
something just briefly since

2556
02:26:38,760 --> 02:26:42,150
America is pretty much seen
worldwide is the most racist

2557
02:26:42,150 --> 02:26:48,660
country. We invented slavery and
all that. Just you know, that's

2558
02:26:48,690 --> 02:26:51,210
pretty much how it's taught in
schools, I think. Yeah, so

2559
02:26:51,210 --> 02:26:53,640
I started schools even though
it's all bull crap, but okay,

2560
02:26:53,940 --> 02:26:58,380
so many of the black pizza thing
in the Netherlands, which is is

2561
02:26:58,380 --> 02:27:03,300
my favorite topic. Yes. So just
shortly, briefly, we didn't even

2562
02:27:03,300 --> 02:27:06,090
have Christmas when I was
growing up in the Netherlands.

2563
02:27:06,090 --> 02:27:08,190
There was no Well, there was
Christmas where there was no

2564
02:27:08,190 --> 02:27:11,160
Santa Claus and no presents.
That was some you went to mass

2565
02:27:11,160 --> 02:27:14,790
to Christmas mass. And I went
and we used to go it was fun.

2566
02:27:16,050 --> 02:27:17,550
But we had some Catholics

2567
02:27:17,550 --> 02:27:18,900
who are depressed in Holland.

2568
02:27:19,619 --> 02:27:20,969
Yeah, not

2569
02:27:20,970 --> 02:27:23,550
anymore. I mean, they had some
kind of enlightenment something

2570
02:27:23,550 --> 02:27:29,970
or other. Right. So what we've
had for a long time is the St.

2571
02:27:29,970 --> 02:27:32,430
Nicholas who comes on to
Steamboat from Spain, and he's

2572
02:27:32,430 --> 02:27:36,030
got his black pizza with him.
And the United Nations is some

2573
02:27:36,030 --> 02:27:38,310
consultant from the United
Nations is a woman who has been

2574
02:27:38,310 --> 02:27:42,540
trying to get reparations,
reparations for slave colonies,

2575
02:27:42,540 --> 02:27:47,490
slave islands mainly serve a
Aruba, you know, but I would say

2576
02:27:47,490 --> 02:27:51,810
mainly, Suriname really, you
know, she started causing

2577
02:27:51,810 --> 02:27:54,150
trouble and saying, hey, you
know, this is racism. And of

2578
02:27:54,150 --> 02:27:57,810
course, we got some, we got
worldwide accusations of

2579
02:27:58,140 --> 02:28:01,200
blackface, which has nothing to
do with it. It's not the

2580
02:28:01,200 --> 02:28:03,450
culture. It's, you know, we
didn't have there's no black

2581
02:28:03,450 --> 02:28:05,310
face theatre ever has been.

2582
02:28:06,600 --> 02:28:09,150
And what, what has

2583
02:28:09,150 --> 02:28:12,480
been interesting in, in Dutch
politics is there's a former

2584
02:28:12,810 --> 02:28:18,000
television news, a television
host. I think she's she used to

2585
02:28:18,000 --> 02:28:21,480
do a book show and smart, smart
gal, very educated. So fantasy

2586
02:28:21,480 --> 02:28:23,970
months. She's originally from
CERN. I know for us, she was

2587
02:28:23,970 --> 02:28:27,120
born there, but I guess she's
second generation. And she

2588
02:28:27,120 --> 02:28:31,320
formed a political party called
the think party, dank, D and K

2589
02:28:31,320 --> 02:28:35,460
the thing party, and one of the
main platform she has is this

2590
02:28:35,460 --> 02:28:39,750
racist Black Pete. And so she
had been going through a very

2591
02:28:39,750 --> 02:28:42,750
interesting transformation from
someone who people thought was

2592
02:28:43,080 --> 02:28:45,900
intellectual interesting,
usually like a Sunday afternoon

2593
02:28:45,900 --> 02:28:49,110
type TV show and have a guest
and talk about books. And she

2594
02:28:49,110 --> 02:28:53,700
did some other stuff. Now she's
turned into someone who the

2595
02:28:53,700 --> 02:28:59,550
Dutch hate with with a passion,
they hate her. And they they

2596
02:28:59,550 --> 02:29:02,100
hate everything she stands for.
It's like when you know that

2597
02:29:02,100 --> 02:29:05,130
just that beside them. So the
majority I would say, not all

2598
02:29:05,130 --> 02:29:08,340
but the majority. Like why are
you doing this? Stop this this

2599
02:29:08,340 --> 02:29:10,710
is Black Pete We're gonna keep
this near there's been all kinds

2600
02:29:10,710 --> 02:29:13,800
of it's gone through political
systems. It's gonna stay right.

2601
02:29:13,860 --> 02:29:16,800
It doesn't have to be outlawed.
But she continues to say I want

2602
02:29:16,800 --> 02:29:19,650
to get into parliament and I'm
going to do something about this

2603
02:29:19,740 --> 02:29:25,350
atrocity. This is the this
racism what she is receiving as

2604
02:29:25,350 --> 02:29:27,960
one of the newspapers this
morning printed a lot of the

2605
02:29:27,990 --> 02:29:33,060
emails that she's getting from
Dutch constituents. Pretty much

2606
02:29:33,060 --> 02:29:35,130
consistently the Dutch

2607
02:29:35,550 --> 02:29:43,170
call her a monkey. An ape, a
monkey. And I'm blown away by

2608
02:29:43,170 --> 02:29:47,610
this. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I
don't

2609
02:29:47,610 --> 02:29:50,550
even think even racist in
America

2610
02:29:50,550 --> 02:29:51,810
go that far. And

2611
02:29:54,000 --> 02:29:58,650
now consistently, every email
you stupid monkey, go back to

2612
02:29:58,650 --> 02:30:01,410
Sure. Yes, she's been I'm sorry,
well she's from Suriname I

2613
02:30:01,410 --> 02:30:04,440
should have he gotta give us a
little more wow okay I'm sorry

2614
02:30:04,470 --> 02:30:08,280
yes he's blacks he's from
originally from Suriname Yeah.

2615
02:30:09,390 --> 02:30:11,940
And so they they're just going
out there so they're showing

2616
02:30:11,970 --> 02:30:13,740
signs of intense racism

2617
02:30:13,769 --> 02:30:18,389
massive racism that's funny and
and the thing that was

2618
02:30:18,389 --> 02:30:21,899
interesting to me is that it was
the word is Monkey ape they're

2619
02:30:21,899 --> 02:30:25,379
always comparing her to which I
mean that's really

2620
02:30:25,380 --> 02:30:26,190
racist.

2621
02:30:26,939 --> 02:30:31,169
I was rude and racist it's it's
horrible and I'm not allowed to

2622
02:30:31,169 --> 02:30:35,609
do that is like insensitive to
say the least and so they're

2623
02:30:35,609 --> 02:30:40,739
just proving her point All
right, and you know, to proving

2624
02:30:40,739 --> 02:30:42,449
appointed this a racist country.

2625
02:30:43,320 --> 02:30:44,340
She had you right?

2626
02:30:44,370 --> 02:30:47,820
This is hadn't even thought of
it that way. Yeah, exactly.

2627
02:30:48,030 --> 02:30:50,760
Well, they're fed up like all of
Europe. Europe is fed up. They

2628
02:30:50,760 --> 02:30:52,170
don't know what to do with
themselves. People

2629
02:30:52,170 --> 02:30:54,960
are freaking out and fed up.

2630
02:30:55,710 --> 02:30:59,310
They're just fed up. I'm telling
you, they're fed up. Well, yes.

2631
02:30:59,310 --> 02:31:03,180
Listen, I was gonna I was
leading into, they will be even

2632
02:31:03,180 --> 02:31:06,570
more fed up. With this taking
place.

2633
02:31:06,660 --> 02:31:10,140
Turkey's president Diane's
wasted no time in reaction to

2634
02:31:10,140 --> 02:31:13,170
what he sees as another snub to
Turkey by the European Union,

2635
02:31:13,260 --> 02:31:15,720
whose parliament voted on
Thursday to suspend the EU

2636
02:31:15,720 --> 02:31:18,330
membership talks. He's
threatened to rip up the migrant

2637
02:31:18,330 --> 02:31:21,090
deal that could see Turkey again
allowing 10s of 1000s of

2638
02:31:21,090 --> 02:31:27,210
refugees to flood into the EU.
When 50,000 immigrants reached

2639
02:31:27,210 --> 02:31:30,480
the border town of Kapahulu
wailed what would we do if

2640
02:31:30,480 --> 02:31:33,960
Turkey open the border gates you
wondered, look here, this goes

2641
02:31:33,960 --> 02:31:37,290
any further, those border gates
will be opened. You should know

2642
02:31:37,290 --> 02:31:42,300
that neither I nor this nation
cares about empty threats. He

2643
02:31:42,300 --> 02:31:46,800
thundered. On the European
Parliament's vote is non

2644
02:31:46,800 --> 02:31:50,580
binding, but was intended to
send anchor at a signal stop the

2645
02:31:50,580 --> 02:31:53,730
post coup mass arrests of
suspects opposition politicians

2646
02:31:53,730 --> 02:31:56,490
and journalists. A reaction
Parliament considers

2647
02:31:56,490 --> 02:31:59,940
disproportionate Turkey has by
far the largest refugee

2648
02:31:59,940 --> 02:32:02,820
population of people fleeing
conflict or oppression in Syria

2649
02:32:02,820 --> 02:32:05,670
and has many from other conflict
zones. But although safe,

2650
02:32:05,880 --> 02:32:08,520
because there's little work and
no prospects most wants to

2651
02:32:08,520 --> 02:32:08,910
leave.

2652
02:32:09,270 --> 02:32:11,850
I can't wait to see how this one
unfolds.

2653
02:32:12,360 --> 02:32:15,330
Well one thing that I think is a
subtle little bite I don't know

2654
02:32:15,330 --> 02:32:18,750
what would this was a trial
balloon or web play the smallpox

2655
02:32:18,750 --> 02:32:19,170
clip.

2656
02:32:19,380 --> 02:32:22,500
Oh boy, and let me I can only
guess what this has come into.

2657
02:32:22,890 --> 02:32:26,700
Police responded with rubber
bullets and water cannon around

2658
02:32:26,700 --> 02:32:31,920
1500 Refugees rioted in
Bulgaria's largest camp. Leaving

2659
02:32:31,950 --> 02:32:35,550
dozens of officers injured
hundreds of protesters have been

2660
02:32:35,550 --> 02:32:39,030
arrested. That comes after
authorities moved to seal off

2661
02:32:39,030 --> 02:32:42,630
the camp in the southern town of
Harmon Lee, followed reports of

2662
02:32:42,630 --> 02:32:46,440
a skin disease outbreak among
immigrants. European Parliament

2663
02:32:46,440 --> 02:32:50,130
Member Angel Jan Bansky. This
week warned of the health risks

2664
02:32:50,160 --> 02:32:56,280
to the wider population. These
people really want to live in

2665
02:32:56,280 --> 02:32:59,340
safety. They want to be made
deal by some sickness, which was

2666
02:32:59,340 --> 02:33:02,760
around 100 years ago carried by
some African farmer. People did

2667
02:33:02,760 --> 02:33:07,050
not want to meet these people in
the homily camp currently houses

2668
02:33:07,050 --> 02:33:12,120
3000 refugees, many from Syria,
Iraq and Afghanistan. The

2669
02:33:12,120 --> 02:33:16,500
population of the town itself
only around 18,000, some of whom

2670
02:33:16,560 --> 02:33:20,490
fear infection. According to the
Medical Academy in the capitals

2671
02:33:20,490 --> 02:33:24,630
of fear, the migrants may be
carrying viruses and diseases

2672
02:33:24,660 --> 02:33:29,850
such as smallpox. Smallpox is
described as an acute contagious

2673
02:33:29,850 --> 02:33:33,360
disease, around a third of those
who catch it die.

2674
02:33:33,660 --> 02:33:35,700
You know what's interesting
about that, and this goes back

2675
02:33:35,700 --> 02:33:39,180
to the very beginning of this
program, when I was reading the

2676
02:33:39,180 --> 02:33:42,780
Lisbon Treaty, which is the
surrogate for the European

2677
02:33:42,810 --> 02:33:47,460
Constitution. If you read that
properly, and you follow all the

2678
02:33:47,460 --> 02:33:52,980
documents through to the
protocols, and if the police

2679
02:33:53,100 --> 02:33:57,030
because of the death penalty
isn't is supposed to be not

2680
02:33:57,030 --> 02:34:01,380
possible in the European Union.
However, if you are running away

2681
02:34:01,380 --> 02:34:05,220
from the police for any reason,
they can shoot and kill you with

2682
02:34:05,220 --> 02:34:11,040
validity legally. But more
importantly, anyone with a

2683
02:34:11,340 --> 02:34:15,660
contagious disease can be
rounded up and put in jail

2684
02:34:16,410 --> 02:34:17,160
throughout all of

2685
02:34:17,160 --> 02:34:21,960
the EU sounds like a plan flu.

2686
02:34:23,190 --> 02:34:26,370
This is a he just said in that
report contagious disease.

2687
02:34:27,570 --> 02:34:29,100
Mm hmm.

2688
02:34:30,300 --> 02:34:33,780
Well, it would seem to be the
expeditious way to do invade

2689
02:34:33,780 --> 02:34:38,880
Europe by inoculating people
with smallpox and playing them

2690
02:34:38,880 --> 02:34:42,930
amongst a mass of immigrants
hadn't even thought of that. was

2691
02:34:42,930 --> 02:34:44,130
the first thing I thought I

2692
02:34:44,130 --> 02:34:47,700
had time for your shot. Oh, man,
that's a good one.

2693
02:34:48,210 --> 02:34:50,820
And then you send them in there
and then they've since nobody's

2694
02:34:50,820 --> 02:34:54,780
been given a vaccine against
smallpox since the 70s, I

2695
02:34:54,780 --> 02:35:00,480
believe. I mean, I have one, but
my kids don't know and Nobody

2696
02:35:00,480 --> 02:35:04,620
does. And so most of them were
most of the people under the age

2697
02:35:04,620 --> 02:35:12,420
of I think, if the five or 60
are susceptible, and this stuff

2698
02:35:12,420 --> 02:35:15,870
spreads like wildfire. And so
this could be a very interesting

2699
02:35:15,900 --> 02:35:21,210
ploy to decimate. We're actually
be worse than that. The

2700
02:35:21,210 --> 02:35:24,180
Europeans by with these
immigrants coming in and I'm

2701
02:35:24,180 --> 02:35:26,430
going to ask this question I
asked you to every time these

2702
02:35:26,430 --> 02:35:30,480
reports come in, what the hell
are these? These these

2703
02:35:30,480 --> 02:35:36,750
immigrants from Afghanistan
doing? Yeah. Why is it F word?

2704
02:35:36,750 --> 02:35:40,920
Anybody leaving Afghanistan?
Yeah. Is that the situation that

2705
02:35:40,920 --> 02:35:42,360
you have? I mean, Kandahar

2706
02:35:42,360 --> 02:35:43,740
is beautiful this time of year.

2707
02:35:43,769 --> 02:35:47,399
I don't understand why you'd
leave. I'm

2708
02:35:47,400 --> 02:35:51,270
very suspicious about these
Afghanistan. standees. Yeah,

2709
02:35:51,300 --> 02:35:55,500
there's Syrians. Yeah, makes
sense of places being rub.

2710
02:35:55,500 --> 02:35:59,520
alized. Yeah. But anyway, so
yeah, the smallpox it is not

2711
02:35:59,520 --> 02:36:01,140
being reported. Of course,
though.

2712
02:36:01,170 --> 02:36:04,920
I like it. I like it. I liked
the mass vaccination program.

2713
02:36:05,040 --> 02:36:07,470
And this is and by the way, this
is something that was predicted.

2714
02:36:07,470 --> 02:36:10,170
Everyone knew that, you know, of
course, when you have this kind

2715
02:36:10,170 --> 02:36:15,300
of influx of newcomers. You can
have this kind of shit happen.

2716
02:36:16,440 --> 02:36:17,850
It's gonna get so bad.

2717
02:36:18,240 --> 02:36:21,210
I have no maybe that's the real
reason that the State Department

2718
02:36:21,210 --> 02:36:25,500
has has put a warning visit
Europe. I heard and we're gonna

2719
02:36:25,500 --> 02:36:30,150
play this. This is the this is
the holidays in Europe, not safe

2720
02:36:30,150 --> 02:36:30,540
Park.

2721
02:36:30,930 --> 02:36:33,870
Agencies in Europe are saying
that because of the continued

2722
02:36:33,900 --> 02:36:36,900
threat of terror in Europe this
year.

2723
02:36:37,020 --> 02:36:41,130
Why do I hear a child's chime in
in this report is

2724
02:36:41,130 --> 02:36:44,340
got a man on the street,
somebody's grinding away with a

2725
02:36:44,340 --> 02:36:44,820
monkey.

2726
02:36:45,780 --> 02:36:49,200
The monkeys in Europe are saying
that because of the continued

2727
02:36:49,200 --> 02:36:53,880
threat of terror in Europe this
year, Christmassy events are

2728
02:36:53,880 --> 02:36:58,080
going to be more dangerous than
ever. Earlier this week, French

2729
02:36:58,080 --> 02:37:02,100
authorities foiled an ISIL
linked terror plot in Strasburg,

2730
02:37:02,310 --> 02:37:05,400
the French city that's home to
one of the most famous Christmas

2731
02:37:05,400 --> 02:37:10,410
markets in Europe. Police across
Europe are on high alert. In

2732
02:37:10,410 --> 02:37:14,340
Britain domestic intelligence
agency mi five says the threat

2733
02:37:14,340 --> 02:37:18,330
of international terrorism
remains severe. Add to that the

2734
02:37:18,330 --> 02:37:23,070
US government's latest travel
advice to its citizens. It tells

2735
02:37:23,070 --> 02:37:27,120
Americans to exercise caution at
holiday events and outdoor

2736
02:37:27,120 --> 02:37:31,650
markets in Europe and cites
credible information that ISIL

2737
02:37:31,650 --> 02:37:35,160
and al Qaeda continue to plan
terrorist attacks on the

2738
02:37:35,160 --> 02:37:39,600
continent, especially during the
holiday season. In fact,

2739
02:37:39,630 --> 02:37:42,780
according to State Department
advice to its citizens,

2740
02:37:42,990 --> 02:37:47,250
countries such as Morocco,
Egypt, Western Sahara, Jordan

2741
02:37:47,280 --> 02:37:52,770
and Bolivia are all safer than
Europe. Oh, boy.

2742
02:37:55,200 --> 02:37:56,970
Yeah, very, very insulting.

2743
02:37:57,810 --> 02:38:00,240
Just so you know what I heard
because I saw the first I saw

2744
02:38:00,240 --> 02:38:03,030
this before it even went out. I
saw this was happening happening

2745
02:38:03,030 --> 02:38:08,070
between shows. And the thinking
is Germany. Christmas, Germany,

2746
02:38:08,070 --> 02:38:11,460
Christmas, Germany Christmas.
Christmas mark as a Christmas.

2747
02:38:11,460 --> 02:38:12,360
That's the chatter.

2748
02:38:12,840 --> 02:38:15,360
Oh, it could happen. But this
big part too. They finally went

2749
02:38:15,360 --> 02:38:17,250
on the street and asked a few
people that is our tea. Of

2750
02:38:17,250 --> 02:38:19,410
course. They love to go out in
the street.

2751
02:38:20,010 --> 02:38:21,510
It's always funny. Always.

2752
02:38:21,540 --> 02:38:24,720
Can you name some countries that
you think the US thinks is safer

2753
02:38:25,140 --> 02:38:27,030
to go on holiday to than here?

2754
02:38:27,510 --> 02:38:31,080
Probably Australia. Australia.
That's all I can really think.

2755
02:38:31,950 --> 02:38:42,840
Maybe Japan think of anywhere in
Europe. Canada. Australia, New

2756
02:38:42,840 --> 02:38:43,980
Zealand scope back

2757
02:38:43,980 --> 02:38:46,800
back it up. Back it up? Yeah.
You missed the guy saying

2758
02:38:46,800 --> 02:38:49,860
Canadia Oh Canadia

2759
02:38:57,120 --> 02:38:59,340
Canada, Canadian

2760
02:38:59,790 --> 02:39:01,980
fucking mid clip mid

2761
02:39:04,080 --> 02:39:08,910
a mid clip for the day. Come on.
Come on as we they left that.

2762
02:39:09,330 --> 02:39:13,740
They left that income on they
left that in Camden? Yeah. I

2763
02:39:13,740 --> 02:39:15,690
mean, are they joking us? Are
they jokesters? I

2764
02:39:16,770 --> 02:39:19,860
don't think so. I don't seem to
have much of a sense of humor to

2765
02:39:19,860 --> 02:39:22,110
get a smirk. Usually that's
about as far as it goes.

2766
02:39:22,140 --> 02:39:23,940
That's fantastic. Good. Good
work.

2767
02:39:28,470 --> 02:39:35,160
Canada Canadia. Australia, New
Zealand, Scotland. A different

2768
02:39:35,160 --> 02:39:37,890
country. Denmark. I

2769
02:39:37,890 --> 02:39:40,260
wonder if they were just reading
if the producer had a bad a

2770
02:39:40,260 --> 02:39:42,690
piece of paper that read one of
these names.

2771
02:39:43,290 --> 02:39:45,480
Oh, no. Canadian.

2772
02:39:45,540 --> 02:39:47,190
It looks pretty sincere. Hey,
I'll

2773
02:39:47,190 --> 02:39:53,730
show you the results. US travel
warnings mapped out yellow is US

2774
02:39:53,730 --> 02:39:57,960
and Europe. We're on alert.
Green is

2775
02:39:57,960 --> 02:40:00,330
safer, greener. So

2776
02:40:01,350 --> 02:40:07,200
that that would be Egypt. Do you
find it surprising? Yeah. Yeah.

2777
02:40:07,620 --> 02:40:11,760
Yeah, I wasn't expecting that.
But um, Sierra Leone Morocco all

2778
02:40:11,760 --> 02:40:13,800
green. Surprising

2779
02:40:14,730 --> 02:40:19,380
for like all of this, like
Africa and everything. Argentina

2780
02:40:20,220 --> 02:40:26,310
like yes it is surprising I like
that

2781
02:40:26,310 --> 02:40:28,320
let me play this jingle that
goes along with the caliphate

2782
02:40:40,470 --> 02:40:46,830
Love and Light for Florence
Henderson loving light. I was

2783
02:40:46,830 --> 02:40:50,730
watching on Dancing with the
Stars. I liked her so much. Darn

2784
02:40:50,730 --> 02:40:51,030
it.

2785
02:40:52,230 --> 02:40:54,750
She said Dancing with the Stars
that really show that some

2786
02:40:54,750 --> 02:40:57,900
people just have great legs
their entire life.

2787
02:40:58,289 --> 02:41:04,649
Yeah, you're right. Yeah. That's
true. Like the keeper. Yeah,

2788
02:41:04,649 --> 02:41:05,609
I've got a

2789
02:41:06,900 --> 02:41:10,170
I've got a clip that just a
little off the wall. It's got

2790
02:41:10,170 --> 02:41:12,030
nothing to do with anything
we're talking about so far. But

2791
02:41:12,030 --> 02:41:16,080
I just thought I was kind of
riveted by this. This was a show

2792
02:41:16,080 --> 02:41:21,480
where they were interviewing all
the NASCAR racers, the ones that

2793
02:41:21,480 --> 02:41:27,270
are winning a lot. And they won
the cup and whatever. And they

2794
02:41:27,270 --> 02:41:29,190
all consider themselves
athletes. And I think in some

2795
02:41:29,190 --> 02:41:31,440
ways they are this is no
different than a horse racing,

2796
02:41:31,680 --> 02:41:36,180
jockeys an athlete too. And but
this one little thing that Brad

2797
02:41:36,180 --> 02:41:41,670
keselowski said, I just and I
don't think it's true for all

2798
02:41:41,670 --> 02:41:45,240
athletes, but he seems to think
it is now who is he? Brad

2799
02:41:45,240 --> 02:41:48,420
keselowski is a champion from a
couple years ago in the NASCAR.

2800
02:41:48,450 --> 02:41:52,230
He's a good racer. He's not one
of the he's not the best this

2801
02:41:52,230 --> 02:41:57,240
year. But he's ice is always in
the top five. Right? And he has

2802
02:41:57,240 --> 02:42:01,050
this to say, Yeah, military
tank. It's

2803
02:42:01,050 --> 02:42:06,300
motivation. And I think by the
way, that to be a great athlete

2804
02:42:06,360 --> 02:42:10,590
and the professional level. And
this is a common theme in

2805
02:42:10,590 --> 02:42:16,020
everything I do. That you need
to spend money. And I mean,

2806
02:42:16,020 --> 02:42:20,940
spend a lot of money. What do
you mean? It goes back to

2807
02:42:20,940 --> 02:42:26,250
hunger. You need to be hungry to
be a great hunter and woods. You

2808
02:42:26,250 --> 02:42:32,190
know, and when you're hungry. We
are right at the edge of your

2809
02:42:32,190 --> 02:42:32,940
limits.

2810
02:42:34,320 --> 02:42:41,730
financially. It drives you and
what you do. That's why most

2811
02:42:41,730 --> 02:42:42,600
athletes go broke.

2812
02:42:44,220 --> 02:42:48,030
And nobody really talks about
that. But when you spend a lot

2813
02:42:48,030 --> 02:42:53,040
of money, it makes you really
buckled down when you're

2814
02:42:53,040 --> 02:42:53,610
performing.

2815
02:42:55,350 --> 02:42:57,120
Hmm, yeah.

2816
02:42:57,690 --> 02:43:01,710
Poverty is what this show is so
damn good. You're right. You got

2817
02:43:01,710 --> 02:43:03,210
no money. We're broke. Yeah.

2818
02:43:03,300 --> 02:43:05,610
You know what, when you're
hungry, this is that is how

2819
02:43:05,610 --> 02:43:08,820
America used to work. You got to
work your ass off. Are you going

2820
02:43:08,820 --> 02:43:13,290
to be damn hungry? That's the
America I grew up in.

2821
02:43:13,530 --> 02:43:16,320
And he says that's what most
that's why most athletes are

2822
02:43:16,320 --> 02:43:19,560
broke. And a lot of them are. I
mean, bad money management is

2823
02:43:19,560 --> 02:43:21,750
part of the problem. But they do
spend a lot I mean, look at

2824
02:43:21,750 --> 02:43:26,790
Floyd Mayweather, Jr. Why would
he have like five Lamborghinis

2825
02:43:26,790 --> 02:43:30,600
in one of his rooms in his
house? I mean, that's just been

2826
02:43:30,600 --> 02:43:34,050
in money for no reason except
the art collection, I guess. But

2827
02:43:34,050 --> 02:43:38,520
still. And people like you know,
they spend money and so they

2828
02:43:38,520 --> 02:43:41,550
have no money so they can
perform better is his logic. I

2829
02:43:41,550 --> 02:43:43,830
don't think that's true for all
athletes, by any means because

2830
02:43:43,830 --> 02:43:47,220
of the number of they're very
successful businessman. But I

2831
02:43:47,220 --> 02:43:49,860
just thought that was just
strange. I've never heard that

2832
02:43:49,860 --> 02:43:50,460
theory.

2833
02:43:52,740 --> 02:43:56,250
Well, it kind of boils down to
the power structure that

2834
02:43:56,250 --> 02:44:00,660
everyone needs to have to do
something. That is even if it's

2835
02:44:00,660 --> 02:44:05,730
a surrogate activity, they need
to do something that tells your

2836
02:44:05,730 --> 02:44:08,040
DNA you're working hard for your
survival.

2837
02:44:09,210 --> 02:44:10,950
That's what his theory Yes.
Yeah,

2838
02:44:10,980 --> 02:44:13,200
I think he's correct. I hadn't
been endorsed. I

2839
02:44:13,200 --> 02:44:15,720
do have if you if you read the
name of the clip, it's Brad

2840
02:44:15,720 --> 02:44:17,310
because Loski psycho.

2841
02:44:19,620 --> 02:44:22,050
Do you think do you think that
so you think it's psycho really?

2842
02:44:22,530 --> 02:44:23,610
I do. Yeah.

2843
02:44:24,240 --> 02:44:27,360
Jimmie Johnson, for example, I
don't know that. There's a lot

2844
02:44:27,360 --> 02:44:30,270
of these guys. I don't see them
all just going nuts and spending

2845
02:44:30,270 --> 02:44:32,310
all their money spending a lot
of money. So they're broke all

2846
02:44:32,310 --> 02:44:35,010
the time, so they can perform?
Well. I just don't see everyone

2847
02:44:35,010 --> 02:44:37,380
doing. There are a number of
people that go that way. And

2848
02:44:37,380 --> 02:44:38,760
it's obvious he's one of them.
Yeah,

2849
02:44:39,030 --> 02:44:42,750
I think it's not it can happen
to some people. Sure. It

2850
02:44:43,650 --> 02:44:46,950
can motivate themselves. They
don't need that sort of, you

2851
02:44:46,950 --> 02:44:51,090
know, true starvation as
motivation. It helps a lot of

2852
02:44:51,090 --> 02:44:54,300
people have gotten over that
hump. They don't need the they

2853
02:44:54,300 --> 02:44:58,050
don't need I do opposition. I do
go well, you You seem to Yes.

2854
02:44:58,050 --> 02:45:00,180
You have borderline at that guy.
Well, I mean

2855
02:45:00,180 --> 02:45:02,610
like that guy? You know, it's
like Saturday night I'm hanging

2856
02:45:02,610 --> 02:45:05,400
out with Tina. I'm like, Oh man,
I gotta start working. I gotta

2857
02:45:05,400 --> 02:45:09,840
prep and then I think to myself,
I think self. You like food,

2858
02:45:09,840 --> 02:45:10,410
don't you?

2859
02:45:11,910 --> 02:45:15,060
Yeah. Yeah, I have that.

2860
02:45:15,840 --> 02:45:19,890
I think you're right thing is
why this works. Because we have

2861
02:45:19,890 --> 02:45:21,390
taken the vow of poverty on the
show.

2862
02:45:23,370 --> 02:45:24,990
Are you are you still with me?
John? Are you?

2863
02:45:25,200 --> 02:45:27,840
Yes, I'm still here. I'm just
counting my money from Paper

2864
02:45:27,840 --> 02:45:32,460
Mate. 10 minutes to go. Okay.

2865
02:45:32,880 --> 02:45:36,690
All right. I got an odd one.
Just an odd one. Just kind of a

2866
02:45:36,690 --> 02:45:41,700
throwaway. But thanks to GE who
sent it to me. This is your your

2867
02:45:41,700 --> 02:45:45,180
Public Broadcasting System. This
is from PRI knows what the air

2868
02:45:45,180 --> 02:45:48,810
on NPR and this is from Science
Friday. You know, Science Friday

2869
02:45:48,810 --> 02:45:51,150
is really big show and you're
thinking and talking about

2870
02:45:51,150 --> 02:45:53,220
science. I'm always interested
in science. I don't deny

2871
02:45:53,220 --> 02:45:55,260
science. And this is the science
I got.

2872
02:45:55,350 --> 02:45:59,010
I'm learning now that you
massage your kale. Molly, is

2873
02:45:59,010 --> 02:46:01,230
that what you do with kale, you
massage it, that is

2874
02:46:01,230 --> 02:46:04,680
definitely something you can do
with your kale. So kale has two

2875
02:46:04,710 --> 02:46:08,760
issues that I think make it hard
to love it raw in a salad. One

2876
02:46:08,760 --> 02:46:11,670
is that it's kind of tough. And
the second that it can be very

2877
02:46:11,670 --> 02:46:16,980
bitter. And to help with the the
toughness of kale, massaging and

2878
02:46:16,980 --> 02:46:19,710
actually running your fingers
over it to help the leaves

2879
02:46:19,710 --> 02:46:23,070
loosen up a little bit, you can
use a rolling pin over a bag, it

2880
02:46:23,070 --> 02:46:26,070
really helps tenderize the
leaves. But what happens when

2881
02:46:26,070 --> 02:46:29,670
you do that is it makes it the
flavor of kale a little bit more

2882
02:46:29,670 --> 02:46:32,790
bitter. And that's because the
flavor of kale really only

2883
02:46:32,790 --> 02:46:36,090
happens when you start to damage
the cells within it. Because

2884
02:46:36,090 --> 02:46:40,050
then an enzyme interacts with a
sulfur containing compound to

2885
02:46:40,050 --> 02:46:43,320
create a totally new compound
that they wouldn't interact if

2886
02:46:43,320 --> 02:46:45,930
the cells weren't damaged. But
this new compound is very

2887
02:46:45,930 --> 02:46:46,410
bitter.

2888
02:46:46,740 --> 02:46:48,720
I see you've got a bag is that a
bag of kale,

2889
02:46:48,750 --> 02:46:52,410
I do have a bag of kale. We
worked really hard on figuring

2890
02:46:52,410 --> 02:46:56,040
out how to get kale to taste
less bitter. This one is

2891
02:46:56,040 --> 02:46:59,100
massaged, massaged kale massaged
kale

2892
02:47:00,990 --> 02:47:03,090
turn oh wow we did much more
bitter

2893
02:47:03,120 --> 02:47:05,460
and so one thing in the book was
try and figure out how to make

2894
02:47:05,460 --> 02:47:09,090
kale less bitter and we
discovered that rinsing it after

2895
02:47:09,090 --> 02:47:12,690
you massage it and create all
this bitter flavor can lessen

2896
02:47:12,690 --> 02:47:16,950
the bitterness of the kale Why
eat this crap?

2897
02:47:17,970 --> 02:47:22,800
That's my question that we did
not go answered. It's not food.

2898
02:47:23,070 --> 02:47:27,480
It's not edible. I pulled an ISO
from it

2899
02:47:27,480 --> 02:47:30,870
though rinsing it after you
massage it can lessen the

2900
02:47:30,870 --> 02:47:31,500
bitterness

2901
02:47:31,800 --> 02:47:36,630
Yeah Yes That sounds mood work
have

2902
02:47:36,630 --> 02:47:41,820
more kale have more kale have
more kale have more kale have

2903
02:47:41,820 --> 02:47:53,520
more tail have more tail you
have you have more tail, you

2904
02:47:53,520 --> 02:47:54,360
will obey.

2905
02:47:54,420 --> 02:47:57,810
That's right and we will obey I
can get the last clip in here.

2906
02:47:57,810 --> 02:48:00,990
All right, good. And another
time. This is the one who's

2907
02:48:00,990 --> 02:48:03,570
really good. Everybody's up in
arms about just because he's

2908
02:48:03,780 --> 02:48:07,440
cheap. Bass just California
again leading the way. Great

2909
02:48:07,440 --> 02:48:09,540
California Netflix tax.

2910
02:48:09,900 --> 02:48:13,230
Customers a video streaming
services like Netflix may be

2911
02:48:13,230 --> 02:48:17,100
subject to a new tax. At least a
dozen Bay Area cities are

2912
02:48:17,100 --> 02:48:21,060
considering a utility type tax
on residents who cut the cord on

2913
02:48:21,060 --> 02:48:24,960
cable. Critics insist it's
illegal to impose taxes on the

2914
02:48:24,960 --> 02:48:28,980
internet. But the city of
Pasadena just passed one right

2915
02:48:28,980 --> 02:48:31,890
now it's on hold because of
resident complaints

2916
02:48:35,700 --> 02:48:41,160
What is that all about? You tell
me those guys in California man.

2917
02:48:41,730 --> 02:48:43,050
I think that if

2918
02:48:43,050 --> 02:48:45,360
we're not getting enough money
this California's California

2919
02:48:45,360 --> 02:48:48,330
logic. First of all, they want
everyone to get an electric car

2920
02:48:48,330 --> 02:48:51,120
or something. So now these cars
get 60 miles to the gallon if

2921
02:48:51,120 --> 02:48:54,480
the you know hybrids and
electric cars get 100 And so

2922
02:48:54,480 --> 02:48:58,110
then so now they're all gasoline
taxes all the pump taxes have

2923
02:48:58,110 --> 02:49:01,440
dropped, the revenues have gone
through the floor. Yeah. Well,

2924
02:49:01,440 --> 02:49:03,540
they don't know what to oh, this
is like getting unintended

2925
02:49:03,540 --> 02:49:07,020
consequences or popples more pot
and so they Yeah, we got more

2926
02:49:07,020 --> 02:49:10,440
potholes. And so what you end up
with is a well, let's, we have

2927
02:49:10,440 --> 02:49:14,850
to tax the electric car. Just as
if as is as you have electric

2928
02:49:14,850 --> 02:49:18,120
car, you're gonna pay a tax on
it to make up for the fact that

2929
02:49:18,120 --> 02:49:20,400
you're not buying gasoline,
which was the reason to get the

2930
02:49:20,400 --> 02:49:23,250
electric car in the first place.
So you didn't burn gasoline?

2931
02:49:23,490 --> 02:49:29,130
Yep. The Annapolis series of
idiot, idiotic constructs that

2932
02:49:29,130 --> 02:49:30,210
go on sorry, it's

2933
02:49:30,210 --> 02:49:33,630
the unintended consequences of
technology is exactly what

2934
02:49:33,630 --> 02:49:38,400
Professor Kosinski wrote about
unfolding before your very eyes.

2935
02:49:38,970 --> 02:49:40,050
Because once again,

2936
02:49:40,050 --> 02:49:43,140
once again, work that into the
end of the show. I don't know

2937
02:49:43,140 --> 02:49:43,950
how he does it.

2938
02:49:44,040 --> 02:49:48,330
It's talents, my friends talent.
Alright, everybody, thank you so

2939
02:49:48,330 --> 02:49:50,760
much for tuning in. If you're on
the live stream, it's always

2940
02:49:50,760 --> 02:49:53,730
nice to have you there. No, I'm
not gonna do the ant song again

2941
02:49:53,730 --> 02:49:57,180
today. They figured that there's
enough ant material someone

2942
02:49:57,180 --> 02:50:04,590
could come up with a new one at
ants. Again, ants. Alrighty,

2943
02:50:05,790 --> 02:50:08,820
good. I know what's coming up
this week but there's always

2944
02:50:08,820 --> 02:50:10,950
something we can deconstruct for
you and we're happy to do it.

2945
02:50:10,950 --> 02:50:14,280
Remember us at the vorak.org/na
is we'll be back on Thursday for

2946
02:50:14,280 --> 02:50:18,630
our regularly scheduled show.
And I am coming to you from the

2947
02:50:18,630 --> 02:50:22,470
crackpot condo in the skyscraper
here in downtown Austin, Texas,

2948
02:50:22,470 --> 02:50:25,350
the capital of the drone Star
State FEMA Region six if you're

2949
02:50:25,350 --> 02:50:28,170
looking for it on a governmental
map in the morning, everybody,

2950
02:50:28,590 --> 02:50:29,340
I'm Adam curry

2951
02:50:29,520 --> 02:50:34,080
and from Northern Silicon Valley
where Plato say man who rushes

2952
02:50:34,080 --> 02:50:38,460
masturbation pulls a fast one.
I'm John C. Dvorak

2953
02:50:40,110 --> 02:50:41,220
and we will be back

2954
02:50:42,390 --> 02:50:46,500
on Thursday with another episode
right here on no agenda. Until

2955
02:50:46,500 --> 02:51:00,510
then adios mofos young

2956
02:51:01,380 --> 02:53:07,140
techno experts right Hey man
first of all

2957
02:53:07,170 --> 02:53:09,870
try to discuss new routes while
they pay off in our animals with

2958
02:53:09,870 --> 02:53:13,050
the broadest of hateful rushers
complicated guy. Of course we're

2959
02:53:13,050 --> 02:53:17,910
not I mean, I can't imagine he
has any friends tell me the

2960
02:53:17,910 --> 02:53:18,450
Crusades

2961
02:53:18,450 --> 02:53:20,760
that's because we love each
other to embarrass and threatens

2962
02:53:20,760 --> 02:53:25,830
your marriage I mean complicated
guy the Democratic Party right

2963
02:53:25,830 --> 02:53:27,750
now in our churches slash White
House

2964
02:53:32,730 --> 02:53:38,250
I mean a person who's much more
or somebody can talk to you

2965
02:53:38,250 --> 02:53:40,770
those to the staff and then the
senior adviser to the Nazi

2966
02:53:42,120 --> 02:53:44,130
white people leave your
Democratic party went home and

2967
02:53:44,130 --> 02:53:47,160
and now churches slash white
power we don't move into super

2968
02:53:49,560 --> 02:53:55,800
complicated but all these anti
semitic things complicated guy.

2969
02:53:57,300 --> 02:54:01,440
We don't need to make it
appointment will people leave?

2970
02:54:02,160 --> 02:54:11,040
We don't people we we don't say
black and Xander. You sit in

2971
02:54:11,040 --> 02:54:16,590
your seat. Slash

2972
02:54:17,520 --> 02:54:23,460
rinsing it after you massage it
can lessen the bitterness. You

2973
02:54:23,460 --> 02:54:24,420
read that a

2974
02:54:30,000 --> 02:54:33,510
mission, however, is to organize
the world's information.

2975
02:54:35,070 --> 02:54:39,540
Information. We absolutely
cannot have any type of bias

2976
02:54:39,540 --> 02:54:47,070
whatsoever. Many, many, many,
many, many, many, many, many,

2977
02:54:48,210 --> 02:54:51,570
many, many, many, many, many,
many, many, many, many, many,

2978
02:54:51,960 --> 02:54:55,290
many, many, many, many, many,
many, many, many, many, many,

2979
02:54:55,710 --> 02:55:16,410
many, many, many, many, many,
many, many things. So many,

2980
02:55:18,210 --> 02:55:46,650
many, many, many, many, many.
say adios mopho.org/n

2981
02:55:46,710 --> 02:55:47,160
A