Yes, I'm triggered now I'm getting all weirded out. Adam
curry, John C. Dvorak.
It's Thursday, December 8 2016. And this is your award winning
give our nation media assassination episode 884. This
is no agenda.
standing guard at the gates of your reality and broadcasting
live from the darkest corners of the internet here in February to
sixth Austin Tay Haas in the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where Plato say a
woman who unfashionable and call kettle black probably have
pantsuit. I'm John C. Dvorak skill.
And it was the I don't know, I don't know about this one. It
was a little too much for me. It was a little too long. Yeah,
that's what it was too long. That's what it was. It's okay. I
still I how can we complain for a guy that? When did he do this
stuff a couple 1000 years ago?
A plate? Oh, yeah. Well, digging this stuff up is the problem she
has you gotta brush
the dirt off. Yeah. And that's just from your collection in
your office?
Well, yeah.
Okay, well, John, I have to I have now officially appeared in
a fake news report.
Hey, by the way, I appreciate the crank call from Max Keiser.
Okay. So I was with Max and Stacy. Yesterday, they're in
Austin. From RT which, of course is why reference that I've been
part of fake news. And afterwards, we did two things,
an interview and a podcast. I want to talk a little bit about
what I learned. But then, because you know, Max, right.
What didn't used to be a guest on your show until it was a
guest on my show once silicon spin, correct?
Yes. telecon spin, con spin.
So he says, Hey, let's call the vorak says that and well,
actually, it was because I was explaining to him and to him
mistakes. He was like, we never talk. Well, no, no, we don't
talk in between shows you maybe we email back and forth rarely
things you know.
It did? Yeah. And it never works out.
Well, no, either. Either. Either. We prepare a bit too
much. And it fails or we're just yelling at each other. Yeah.
But Hi, Shane, this clip already.
And this one was called divorce racket though. Okay. I said,
Well, I don't know, man. Like, if he answers I'd be surprised.
I only have eight phone numbers for you. I don't know which one
is really the number. And so he calls and what do you say that
this is a guy he said hey, this is that was the Bitcoin guy. Oh,
yeah. What whatever the name is, which I'm still not convinced he
isn't. That's another story. Yeah, and here's how the phone
call one. Hey, hey, how you doing? And John goes there.
Yeah, great. How are you? Max Keiser. Oh, you recognize my
voice? Yes, I did. Okay, that's all boom. And then he hung up.
Yeah.
That's sounds like that.
So Tina, the keeper and I went to dinner with Max and Stacy.
Tuesday evening, here in in Austin downtown. And I learned a
lot of interesting things. First of all, regarding the fake news,
I didn't know this. But do you know that they don't actually
produce the Max Keiser Report for Russia today?
It's what's it produced for? Well, same thing with Larry
King.
It's produced for the Associated Press who sell it to Russia
today.
Hello, that's interesting. How can
we have the Associated Press participating in fake news and
propaganda and state sponsored something or other
terrorism? Ah,
I thought that was that was that was news to me.
So they had did they contract with him? Or what was the deal?
Associated Press pay him. Yes. The
Associated Press pays them to do the show. And then they sell it
to RT, the Associated Press does.
Ah, it's crazy. They know they rented that sort of syndication.
That's interesting,
as well. But moreover, you know, the fact that they're sponsoring
state sponsored propaganda this has to stop this cannot
continue. I feel bad for Stacey, but
yet another nother. Okay, go on.
Okay. But I think they do an actual podcast podcast for for
Sputnik which is I believe, which is the other ones Yeah.
Which I think is a direct sale. I'm not I'm not so sure. I also
learned that
I get a lot of good news stories from spots. Once if you remember
the clip that we hear from the economist editor, or one of the
editors of the economist, who are just now there, you know,
things become an insufferable publication. You know, for the
elites. He says, you know, We see someone with the with the
resume that says Russia today or Sputnik. They're not even
considered.
Right. And as we were talking, I learned that, like myself, Max
Keiser is not verified on Twitter. And while I found this
interesting, because, you know, I've actually tried I don't want
it anymore, but I've tried and he he said, Oh, no. Are you
crazy? No, no, no. Now you have no culpability. You're not
verified. I don't know who tweeted that. I have no idea
that made i That's probably some fake or some fake account. Yeah.
Well, it's not like Kaiser tweets himself. A lot. Yeah, no,
but you know what I'm saying. Let me see. What else did we
what else did we learn it really nice though, as you can tell
that they're exactly like the show, actually. When you when
you watch him, except that kind of Max's. He's, I'm pretty. I'm
pretty convinced he's on the spectrum. Somewhere. He's a he's
on some some autistic spectrum. And Stacey pretty much talks the
whole time, which is great. You know, she
does on the show to check he does all the real talking that
he just goes off
both and that's what I saw is that he's kind of like, he's
very reserved kind of in his head. I think he's a pretty
smart. He's like a macro thinker. One of the to be he
understands the macro picture of things. That's a
good, good, cause he has a good take on the scene. Yes, yeah.
So I like that. But then you get this is it okay, let's do the
show and the next day, and we need it to the Hotel San Jose on
South Congress. And here's how they do it. They have an iPhone
six plus with a big adapter, and then two chords coming off of it
with lav mics. And Stacey walks backwards. While she's recording
us. That's their entire production. That's pretty good.
They think she's really good.
She walks backwards. This is the podcast or the new show. No,
this
is our t this is what's on RT,
you will be on RT, yeah. Where's the video come from?
Well, she shot the video on her iPhone six.
Wait a minute, she shooting the video on the iPhone? Well, how
did they do those two shots when they're in their little studio
in London or wherever?
Oh, no, boy. Okay, the facilities that they have.
That's actually why they moved from Paris to London, is because
of the great facilities that RT make available. Or rent I think
in London, in fact, Max or Stacy was telling a story about I
don't know, maybe it was on MH 17 or something. It wasn't
something some thing happened. And in the studio facilities,
first Russia today went into, you know, to do all their bits.
And right after that Voice of America went in to use the same
facilities to do with all their bits, which is pretty much
the Russia Today facilities.
I think Russia Today contracts them and they're also contract.
It's probably ITV or something like that. Yeah.
But I thought that was kind of funny that you get to
propaganda.
Once again. Yeah. Cydonia urine.
You're up on deck.
It was fantastic. Anyway, so now it's about 1213 minutes and one
take and he just just it's interesting, because I was
expecting to launch right into the fake news stuff. But he's
all hung up on the memes. And he's like, all the memes really
won the election. I was little I didn't expect that. Like, wow,
yeah, it was. He really blames everything on memes, I guess in
a way
as he went against Trump was he was Hillary guy.
Oh, no. Oh, no, no, no. Now they I don't know if they're, if
they're actually I don't know if they voted for Trump have this
kind of irrelevant. Definitely don't like Hillary. And when you
talk to Kaiser, he'll go off on you. Well, you know, this is the
people wanted this and they probably got the False Prophet
Obama and he's like, okay, it was just you know, he's he's
have concocted about memes, by the way. Yeah, he's
a meme Meister is that's
why I think that's, that's why he likes it so much. Now, what
was cool, though,
did you gain plugged in for the
show? Of course, no, no, it was all about the show. All the show
all about our theory of where does this fake news lead to and
said well be our hypothesis is obviously licensing, licensing
of journalists. And and he was, oh, yeah, that makes total
sense. That's exactly what we're going. And then as we were
talking more about social networks and how people are
divided and then I said, Well, you know, the I really follow
the writings of the famous Harvard professor Theodore
Kaczynski and and I just enrolled right by him enrolled
right via it did.
Yeah, he didn't get it. That's too funny.
I did tell him later said wow, I can't believe you stopped me on
the Unabomber thing he says would watch it but he also said
no, I have heard from people that it's actually pretty
interesting read I say that. Yeah. You should give it a shot.
Yeah, the guy wouldn't kill people over it. Let me see. Was
there anything? Oh, yeah. What else did we have? We had? Well,
just in general just talking later on just in general about,
you know, the situation in, in in London. And the censorship is
unbelievable, particularly for them their show on RT yes, they
can
first let's start with a premise of to begin with, which is what
about their show? It's so dangerous that needs anything
needs to be censored. I mean, he does give it to the British
government and the Scot and the Bank of Scotland. He I mean, he
ribs him a lot. But I don't see that. Well, here's
the thing. When you when there is a perceived violation of
some, some law in the UK, it is off calm, who sends out a letter
off comm is their regulator that's their I think it's a
little broader than the FCC. But that's, that's their version,
the SEC. And what they then do is they send a letter to our T.
And by law, it's just like a national security letter, you're
not allowed to discuss the content of the letter. But that
they've had to do apologies on air. And apparently, you know,
in the beginning, when they first were on our tea, they were
getting several off comm letters a month. And so the
Restrict, think about it, yeah, but it's mostly, if anything, if
he does anything that would be offensive would say he, he will
go after somebody and insult them, you know, comma fat
bastard or something.
I don't feel comfortable giving the exact examples because they
were pretty clear about you know, you can't really talk
about stuff, right? Because of this
looks fine. But you're saying this what I noticed when I'm
watching their show, yeah.
And so I gotta say, really nice. People super nice. Much more
than Yeah, it'll be a nice plug for the show. Okay, so we can't
care about I know, I could have just said, Hey, we got a good
plug coming up on our tea, and I didn't have to say anything
else. But there you go. And they're also interviewing the
seed, man, so that should be funny.
Oh, that should be that should be good to
Toby too in a row, a twofer. Beautiful.
And awesome. Just to see the crackpots.
That's kind of they're doing a little bit of a tour. You know,
they're going around
the US trying to get a barbecue while they're there. Hope.
I don't know if they I don't know if they're big food. So I
took them to fix. Like goodbye or your place. Yeah, they're my
time to take them out to a nice dinner. I said, Hey, this is my
treat. Fully Well, knowing that Tina the keeper and I will be
going to London and will be expecting expecting
reciprocation. Yeah,
you'll never hear from him.
And, you know, so I made my reservation. I called the owner
Keith, I say, Keith, you know, I got guests coming in. So can we
have a nice booth near the bar a little quieter, we can talk and
he said, got you covered. So you know, I want I want to be that
guy like, hey, look,
the guy you want to
be? Everyone. Everyone blows me here this restaurant. And of
course, the obligatory when we're having a coffee. The owner
Keith comes by he said, Well, I hope you enjoyed everything. And
he didn't bother us during dinner. And here's Max's answer.
Well, let me tell you. I wanted to Bloody Mary. But it turns out
you have no tomato juice here. Where for some reason they
don't. And he got into this big conversation with the owner
about well, do you have horseradish? Do you have celery
sticks? Do you have ice? Do you have vodka? Did you don't have
tomato juice? And I was I was a little embarrassed.
He didn't get what you pay for. It didn't have tomato juice.
It's an abomination. I have to agree. Is it a full bar? Yeah.
Oh, they should have a tomato juice for God's sake. That was
just Yeah.
It was it was kind of funny. It was kind Yeah, he reminds me a
bit of you actually, in his direct approach to anything
around the bush. Yeah. Well, you know, I agree.
I agree. I've gotten used to it and I kind of appreciate the
stance. It's taken me eight or nine years. I'm there as well
while we're on it. Let me see. Oh man, there's so much to do
today.
Well, let's start with him read the report then because I want
to make sure I'm fair and balanced on this show. Okay. And
we have our way because you know I like to play these weather
reports because just to prove the weather guys can't figure it
out walking global science global climatologist let's play
today's weather report.
All right. Well, we're about to get some rain. Let's check in
with our chief meteorologist Phil Martin and Bill you told me
during the for that A significant Yeah, significant
rain and not just one or two, not a one and done but some rain
coming on Thursday, Friday, a little more on Sunday, a little
more next week. So it's going to be kind of on and off. We'll get
some breaks in there. But rain back in the forecast starting
tomorrow afternoon. You'll notice the clouds increasing and
with those Increasing clouds, of course, there comes the chance
of some showers and some rain. There are the clouds right now
that's just on track and it gets in here late tomorrow afternoon.
So what that means is by the afternoon, late afternoon
commute might be a little wet on the ground. But what it does
mean is Thursday morning's commute is going to be wet can
be kind of windy and pretty wet. So Thursday mornings can be
right now seems to be the weather headline here. We got
rain all day Thursday, and then getting a little bit into Friday
morning in the mountains. We'll see.
Alright, we go live now to our correspondent John C. Dvorak,
who was at the mudflats in northern Silicon Valley. John,
what are you learning?
Well, I'm learning there's much that's are still there. There's
no wind, so we can just drop right that off. So
that scratch off wind.
Now it did rain. I have to agree it did rain a little bit. But
it's not lots of rain by any means. It's kind of like mist
rain. It rained a little bit last night. But it did as we
speak as as this broadcast is going on, which is at 929 in the
morning, where should it be pouring rain is not raining nah,
wrong again. Well, they're closer than last time. But
it's a good lead into a nice little climate change clip I
have here with the one and only Bill Nye the Science Guy. He's
at a conference for the conference is anti manmade
global warming. Andrew, at GW, and he's talking to him. I think
it's a guy, religious guy. But he hasn't he has a number of
graphs and charts. And he's showing that climate change has
always been here with us. But, you know, doesn't seem like if
you look at the numbers, it's really manmade, but it's always
been there and he gets into this short Tete a Tete with with Bill
Nye,
climate change is the most serious problem facing
humankind, really. And so by by trying to convince young people,
that climate change is not real, is very serious, because they're
gonna grow up and deal actually, we're saying climate change was
a local phenomenon.
We're saying climate change is real. So is it serious climate
change? And what you have to do then is say, what what why has
climate? What have they changed? Climate change all the time? Let
me rephrase it for you. human caused climate change is very
serious.
Well, there's a lot of
thing there's there's a lot of scientists who would disagree
with that, like we are HD scientists on our staff that
would disagree that we are PhD
scientists and your staff. as respectful as I can be, are
incompetent.
All you mean Dr. Nathaniel Jensen, who has a PhD from
Harvard University. Oops, he's incompetent.
From what I've seen on television.
Tell me Dr. Georgia purdham who has a PhD in molecular genetics
from Ohio State. She's incompetent and he certainly
seems to never gives up. I love it.
What a douche bag.
Yeah, it's probably a little douche at the same time. No.
Well, then maybe let me see.
I don't agree with me must be
incompetent. That's right. From what I've seen on TV. I wonder
what he said about the 30,000 scientists who signed off on the
document saying this is bullcrap. I wonder what he said
about that when that cropped up.
Now? Well, not in this particular piece. It didn't crop
up. And actually, I had a PDB Do you have something that fit into
that is one of Donald Trump's was his EPA guy.
I love the irony of this EPA guy. And I want to second let me
just everybody's bent out of shape about him.
Yeah. And it's actually cropped up in okay, I know where it is
here. It was a common conversation between what's this
guy? He's actually not bad these days, just named Tucker, Tucker
Carlson. He has a show on site
and notice this dude, he got rid of the bow tie seemed to have
improved.
And this was in the in relation to the I thought this was very
funny and no agenda producers were probably chuckling
themselves. Donald Trump was named Person of the Year by Time
Magazine. And the first thing that everyone comes out and
says, Well, yeah, that makes sense. Because so it was Hitler.
Like, wow, wow, we've been using this exact same thing for years
in reverse by saying, hey, you know, how great is it? You know,
we got Obama on the cover of Time magazine. I know Hitler was
on it, too, you know, but never like this. And so now as well,
Time Magazine is right, he's Hitler. So
what kind of conversation, I mean, describe the discussion
that you were trying to invoke by comparing Trump to Hitler.
I think that it's very important that we are critical that we do
not normalize or sanitize the rhetoric or actions.
By the way, this is fake news, just weight
of Donald Trump or the ghastly appointees to his new
administration. Guy want ghastly
appointees? It gets better every day. Ghastly I tell
the ghastly appointees to his new administration. And I want
people to remain vigilant. I want people to realize that none
of this is normal. None of the hate speech, the hate crimes
that are spiking in the United States. And we as the American
people have to hold our president elected accountable.
And I would like to point oh, at the southern Southern Poverty
Law Center came out with a report. And which part of this
is based on the talked about hate crimes that have occurred
against LGBT community? That's never happened before against
African Americans. Yeah, the problem with the report because
they actually asked the way they did the survey is they asked
educators, teachers and professors, you know, by you
seeing this at your, at your educational facility, and I
believe there was about 40% said, Yeah, we got we got this
going on. Unfortunately, Southern Poverty Law Center,
although asked several times finally had to come out and say,
Well, yeah, no, we didn't put the 20% increased hate crime
against white kids in the report, oops. Just just shows
you how biased they are. They just hit that. They just didn't
put it in the report until pressured. They hate the white
man. They do. Okay, here we go back to the clip.
Okay. So you've made a lot of pretty general statements. And
by the way, I don't think there's any danger of Trump
going on criticized during his term as president,
like hearing the way that you just compared him
to Hitler now. So I mean, clearly, there's, you know, a
vigorous conversation about Trump underway in your part of
it. But you said his ghastly appointees give an example.
Today, you're talking about appointing a head of the EPA,
someone who has sued the EPA on behalf of the coal industry and
the coal lobby, now he's gonna walk right into the trap. You're
talking about putting a known anti Semite was that is that the
Attorney General Pruitt?
Okay, what was the suit about, you know, Trump? Yeah, he
was suing on getting into it part of what the The New York
Times actually
just see a law the dog.
He's called a secretive alliance between energy firms between
state prosecutors, where he is Attorney General, and between
oil and gas companies. And they
just say this, I mean, it doesn't it doesn't like you
know, a ton about this, but he was one of 28 Attorneys General.
So the majority of states sued the Obama administration over
its environmental regulations. She can't just say he was acting
on behalf of oil and gas companies, the majority of
states were involved in that suit, he
actually appropriated text out of a letter written by the oil
and gas companies as written.
Right. So okay, right. What
about that? Did you disagree? In other words, so what you're
doing here is you're quoting out of context of New York Times
piece that says because he has the same views as an oil and gas
company, that they're illegitimate, but you're not
actually making the case against him. Oh, my God,
fake news. Fake News. She's just filled with fake news. Fake
News, fake news. Yeah, it's pretty interesting. This
transition.
Well, while you're on the topic of mentioning the
pointy heads, the
fake news loophole thing. Yeah. I got a very interesting clip I
picked up since yesterday was
Pearl Harbor Day. Yes, December. No, it was the day before. The
day before.
It'll be by the way, it's a day that will live in infamy.
Probably live in infamy. But it won't live any in history in the
history books, because apparently, none of the kids
know much about it. Oh, I
think they know very little about it. They know nothing. And
what they know is that George Takei was thrown in prison.
So we have a clip of this is somebody was on one of the one
of the I think was one of the new shows or one of the talk
shows and they were just talking about visiting making a big
point to visit the memorial in Arizona. An anniversary of some
sort. Randy, did you want to bring the whole family and do
some stuff and this is kind of the end of his little
discussion. I think this may have been also on Tucker, Tucker
Carlson, but played at Pearl Harbor anecdote.
See some veterans who are signing books to see the big
tribute. It's a it's a thriving military port. I get it and base
but it also is a tribute to those who gave their lives that
day. So we got on the boat. We go out there with the MTC The
movie the competency movie to let everybody know what you're
about to see, we go to see the USS Arizona. And after I saw the
great job, the tour guide didn't have fundamental and rudimentary
the movie was. I said, Listen, when when people come on
Americans come to see this, they usually ask questions as if they
know what's going on or don't. And they said, most of the young
people have no idea what happened, and who won the war?
And who was on what side? And these are the these are the
state troopers that do this on a regular basis. They give the
tours, and I was just struggling.
What do they teach these kids in school?
Well, they don't teach well, I think they teach him gender
politics, or I have no idea.
Well, you know, I
mean, I remember when my kids were going to a local school
here and it was in the, you know, we're in the bay area
where it's a very liberal effect. My town is very
Democrat. And he came back. He came back one day, he's in the
third grade or something. And he's talking about how one kid
was talking about how Columbus was a slaver. He was yes, of
course. Yeah. They had the impression that he was like one
of the guys that we
can't we can't celebrate Columbus Day anymore because he
was a big
amount on the West Coast. You can't
xenophobe
xenophobic slaver with the kid had some other crazy notion that
was sung by Martin Luther King freeing the slaves or something
like that. Great seriously. And then the other one, I remembered
seeing it local, some local event and it was somebody
claiming that Harriet Tubman free replace. Oh, yeah, right.
That's a very common, by the way that that belief? Well, I,
I have two, two clips from Millennials one I both kind of
short. And I have a question about this first one. This is
BBC World News. And this is a protest or you know, these
protests are worldwide. Now. We've got it happening. You're
Black Lives Matter is also in Canada. We've got the you know
what they call it the precious snowflakes, the millennials, the
butthurt. They're everywhere. So to in the UK, I think this might
be an American interview. I don't know if this. This
particular young woman was in the UK or not. But she explains,
and I've heard this a lot, particularly from young LGBT
youth in America, how afraid they are. I mean, like really
afraid of the new administration.
I'm very scared. I'm very scared. As a as an LGBT person,
I am very scared of a Trump pence administration. I'm very
afraid of the rights that we've worked so hard for to be taken
away. And I'm worried that my safety will be threatened that I
won't be able to go across the country like I want to do. What
makes me very afraid, honestly, more so than Donald Trump is
pence. His Vice President, has been staunchly anti LGBT from
day one. Like he they don't care. They don't care. They're
not a president for all people. They do not care about LGBT
people. I can't accept a bigot. Like I can't accept a bigot. I
can't. That's why I protest.
Now, I have a question for you, because I've heard this several
times. And it kind of glosses over you kind of like one of
those terms such as comprehensive immigration
reform. I asked you, John, what exactly are these LGBT rights
that she fought so hard for? What rights are specific to
LGBT? Well,
I am going to I am going to attempt to not answer that
question. But first, I'm wanting to mention something. Is she a
lesbian? Yes. Why doesn't she say that she's not LGBTQ?
Well, quite honestly, I don't know if she's a lesbian. I don't
know how she identifies but just looking at that she could be by
good she could be well that's that's the that's the be you
know,
that's the blow Why would you say I'm LGBT? It's like, I'm a
man, woman, girl boy. But you know, it's, it's like you can't
be all these things. You're you're one of the in the group,
right? Just like comprehensive immigration reform also means
nothing.
So she's not LGBTQ, she's whatever she is. Well, I think
she's LGBTQ is the entire world.
Let me just listen to how she identifies herself again.
I'm very scared. I'm very scared. As a as an LGBT person.
There you go. LGBT person. Does an LGBT person Shut up, but
it's you can't TP person don't question it.
So I've looked into this, Hey, are there any special rights
that I could get if I said I'm Yes, I'm B or L or G or G He
asked you, then here are here they are. There's really only
two things. Okay. decriminalization, and this is
from,
right, they're not going to be criminalized. So what are they
worried about? Well, I'll read the little blurb here.
And this is from actually got this from Amnesty International.
But ACLU had pretty much has the same list. people detained or
imprisoned solely because of their homosexuality. Now, I have
a hard time believing Mike Pence is going to bring that in. Are
you gay? Lock him up? I don't think so. I included those.
What?
I think they're almost being promoted that concept. Clearly
this community is being it's being promoted that concept.
Yes.
Okay. So including those individuals prosecuted for
having sex in circumstances which would not be criminal for
heterosexual. Okay. Fair point. Although, let me say that there
are laws in states in the United States that forbid all kinds of
heterosexual act.
Yes, this is true. Or from other leave buggery is still the only
real in Georgia I could be wrong. Yeah.
Amnesty International calls for the decriminalization of
homosexuality where such legislation remains. Okay. So
you have a little bit of a point, but it's kind of for
everybody has the same issues. And then the second, there's
only two is marriage equality. That's, that's, that's the big
LGBT rights that they fought so hard for. In the marriage,
things like I don't think that should be a law at all. It
shouldn't be the government's business at all, but okay. And
then they just give a couple of examples of human rights abuses
based on sexual orientation, execution by the state. Well, if
Pence did that, I think I would take issue with it. Denial of
employment, housing or health services, that's pretty much not
happening in the United States. Loss of custody of children. I
don't know what what child protective services are doing.
Denial of asylum, rape, and otherwise torture threats for
campaigning for LGBT human rights and regular subjection to
verbal abuse. Well, see, I want that right to I get abused
verbally all the time. Yeah. So you know,
to what she afraid of whoever did the interview should ask
specifically. I although it didn't even seem like you're
just you just being a dick. You know, if you if you do that,
yeah. Oh,
yeah. What do you don't know? Yeah, I did find something. And
this is this is clippable. For everybody who has millennials in
their life. This is a positive note. Rabbi, Dr. Abraham torski.
Explaining in a in a reverse way, what's wrong with our
millennials today, why the children are in trouble. And I
think this is a very good message to them.
There's something I want to tell you about the stress and how we
have to look at stress. He's talking about stress. Okay. And
I think it's an important thing, because many people have told me
from my lectures, the one thing they remember, okay. I was
sitting in a dentist's office and looked at an article that
said, how do lobsters grow? I don't care how lobsters grow.
But I was interested in it. And it points out that a lobster is
a soft, wishy animal that lives inside of a rigid shell, that
rigid shell does not expand. Well, how can the lobster grow?
Well, as the lobster grows, that shell becomes very confining,
and the kind of the lobster feels itself under pressure and
uncomfortable. It goes under a rock formation to protect
yourself from predatory fish, casts off the shell and produces
inulin. Well, eventually, that shell becomes very uncomfortable
as it goes back onto the rocks. And the lobster repeats this
numerous times. This stimulus for the lobster to be able to
grow is that it feels uncomfortable. Now, if lobsters
had doctors they would never grow because as soon as the
lobster feels uncomfortable goes to the doctor gets a valium gets
a Percocet feels fine, never kicked. So I think that we have
to realize is that we have to realize that times of stress are
also times that are signals for growth. And if we use adversity
properly, we can grow through adversity now. There you go.
That's a good message. A little bit of uplifting news for
everybody. Courtney,
I do want to stay with fake news if you don't mind.
I love it. Yes.
Brian Williams said one of the best things I've ever heard him
say the other day. Oops, sorry. Well, I might as well play the
jingle wore out sorry. As we
have about a million of them, I'm sorry. A million of them, a
million of
them as well. talks about here last night fake news played a
role in the selection and continues to find a wide
audience.
I don't know it just struck me as really funny. It continues to
get a wide audience Fake news is good. Or should we say I thought
about this? People don't read. We can agree on this people
don't read. What do people read headlines? Headlines? I assert
that headlines written by mainstream publications meant
for as clickbait always headlines are meant for you to
buy the paper click the link they are just as fake often as
the actual stories that are fake
Oh, the headlines can be very misleading and very common in
fact is such so common that is brought up in J school quite a
bit about and you're not supposed to do it well, and the
Irish you bring something like that. That was because people
are doing it all the time.
Right. But headlines are always done by separate department
right? The the author of
not always the way generally works, it depends. Generally
speaking, the editors write the headlines. And there's usually
one or two good headline writers and they do most of them right.
But if you but you always write a headline, generally speaking
for your article. Yeah. And if you're having any skills at all,
you should be able to get your headline in a certain percentage
of the time not always, and probably not most of the time.
But sometimes you can
let me ask you the false promises of the internet. Is
that your headline
false promises of the internet you wrote it I think it might
have been I think it might have been I think it might have been
my
just asking on the morning Joe's you know, they came up with a
topic about fake news and how we should handle that because of
course, even though we like them we think they're they're very
anti MSNBC while being on it. They still they're all in on
this. It's time for these isolated know it alls in the
Silicon Valley of Google and Facebook. To like, get this
stuff together. I like this by the way. I like the war between
mainstream media mainly television news and Silicon
Valley. I like this happening with that one.
But it's still great. I liked it. It's it's time for these
isolated No at all from the Silicon Valley of Google and
Facebook, to like, get this stuff together on things like
have some sort of
come in first amendment.
We all live within the first world. We don't want to tamper
with the First Amendment but there's something askew here
that has to be looked at. are you mumbling?
bumbling Sorry, I'll stop. Sounds like the guy in there.
Yes,
I was like, Who the hell is mumbling in the background? Mica
Stop mumbling
it's gonna cycle this misinformation. It used to be
telephone calls. The night before. I remember. Jeb Bush
lost a lot in child because Lawton Chiles, right called
hundreds of 1000s of people's Yeah,
this is rarely discussed, I found this to be quite
interesting. That used to be the new that used to be the way that
elections were that people worked on elections as making
hundreds or 1000s of calls, telephone calls. Of course,
stuff in the mail. And then as Joe will say, here, I think
emails
and Jeb Bush was going to take away their Social Security push
can't do that, as governor, he just made it up. And then it was
emails, people would send around the most horrific emails. And
now we're to this stage. And you're right. It's hard to stop
these phone calls the night before an election. It's hard to
stop the emails. It's not hard to stop this fake news. If
you're Google, or if you're Facebook.
Yeah. Now these guys are all in John, it's not hard to sleep.
Wait,
wait, what they're saying is that there's the fake news thing
is, is it's hard to stop the fake news and the emails and
it's hard to stop the fake news here and the fake news or what
makes any fake news, more or less hard to stop? Well, here's
what I'm thinking. As I hear this, they're bitching about the
olden days, when people would make a phone call and say, Hey,
did you know that guy was up? He was a piece of pedophile. You
know, he's a horrible person, don't vote for him vote for this
other guy. And that is hard to stop. But it's an element of the
system. But this other one is fake news, which comes from
Sputnik or whatever. Yeah, is easy to stop. Is that what
they're trying to say when it's not easy to stop either? And
when most of the fake news is coming from the mainstream,
well, the thing that they're skipping, because yeah, I think
what they're saying is, well, it's not hard to to Stop Fake
News in a closed off environment, the so called a
walled garden of a Facebook, and I believe they're just
automatically implying that the fake news is tagged by someone.
And I'm telling you maximizers, right? Not being verified is
going to be very interesting. I believe that anything I post in
the near future on Twitter or Facebook, where I'm also not
verified, it will be censored or shadow banned or something.
That's how they're going to do it. I mean, that's the only
mechanism. They have verified journalist. They're journalists
with 500 followers on Twitter, and they're verified.
I know I've seen that. Every once in awhile I go look at some
who's this idiot and and then I suddenly get somebody working
for one of the big papers. And it's like, they're, you know,
big blow hearts and they got 443 followers. You know, they're
verified. I guarantee
you go on Twitter right now. And look up the Twitter handle of
your weather guy who just gave you a false report. Why, which I
would say is fake news. I bet you he's verified. That's how he
is. That's how this goes. Okay. So that's what I that's what I
think they are. That's how I believe they are thinking also
night
before an election. It's hard to stop the emails. It's not hard
to stop this fake news. If you're Google, or if your
Facebook heart if your Twitter.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So this pizzeria story. I won't dignify
it by explaining what Yeah,
no, no, yeah. Be quiet for a second and listen, because this
is I'm not saying anything. It's just them. You're not okay. So
the LinkedIn is about to be made. And this is exactly what
was supposed to happen. And I do want to get into this a little
today, they are going to say, Oh, well, that's just like pizza
gate. This, this fake news pizza gate, which is now being used to
show the danger of fake news. And because of all the great
sleuthing and investigative work, you will see we've now
actually I'm kind of happy because we are now accelerating
the licensing or whatever majors will come in place.
Yeah, well, like so this pizzeria story. I won't dignify
it by explaining what the Pharisee is, but people in the
leaked Podesta emails. They hallucinated words, meaning
something other than what they appeared to mean about some no
very nefarious thing. In other words, they took a quote, a
pretty innocuous email and thought the words inside that
email or code for what's actually happening inside this.
And that grew up in a conspiracy theory. And it has real world
implications again, when a guy walks in, because he thinks he's
saving children with an AR 15 and fires off around where
families are eating. That's real world stuff. That's not just
stuff floating around. And
one of the most shocking things to me is you actually have
people with college degrees. Who read these fake news stories.
And these conspiracy theories, and then call all us of all of
us up, because it's true on young people. Is that true? You
know, after about the 20th I'm like, no, stop.
Stop, stop, stop. The tape stopped after the 20th show. Now
there were words he takes the calls and he says yeah, I guess
Yeah, I guess and then after 20 he says no, stop. Is it take 20
calls before they get a clue that they made this a story they
should do?
Yeah, no, no, they will not. Well, I have to,
or it's just gonna be three people sounds like three sitting
around a table gassing. Oh, they hallucinated this what Hulu said
they're taking drugs. I mean, it's it sounds like this is
worse than nevermind.
Is this true on young people? Is that true? You know, after about
the 20th I'm like no.
Stop think the Flynn's
stopped Do I think that Flynn's are doing what now?
Namely tweet this stuff? Do they know it's not true? And they're
just trying to stir up trouble?
I think either way is really disturbing.
All right, and I have a couple of things to say about pizza.
First of all, this is now spreading and I thought long and
hard about this. It was the keeper who sent me this link so
I'm like, holy shit. So some YouTuber in Austin. That was
tipped off through like, I guess it's votes now VOA t that have
taken over the closed down Reddit on pizza gate. And that's
where the investigation continues. And I have to say,
back when I was a kid, Oh man, I'm getting to the age where I'm
gonna say it. You know, kids, young people, but kids have
investigative spirits. And I recall after reading you know, I
think the Hardy Boys probably listen maybe I maybe I probably
think I read a lot of the Nancy Drew stories too because my
sister had Nancy Drew and so you know, you go out with a pad and
paper and you know, you walk around the neighborhood and you
write down license plates. Okay, that cards there.
I never did this. Well,
I did. I think lots of kids have done this. So one of these view
tubers here in Austin decides that oh my gosh, I see all the
horrible symbolism at East seed pa East Side pies here in Austin
which is a pizzeria. He Side pies. Oh my goodness II S P Oh,
this is weird. This is kooky. I got to play a little bit of his
investigative report, John.
I mean, I'll just tell you what I saw I mean nothing against it.
Nothing against this if it's how you it but you know this how you
are but the guy who took my order had monster holes in his
ears from his gauges. Oh no, the people had piercings and the
woman who I think reheated my pizza had blue hair. And they
just all looked at me kind of funny, and I don't know why.
They're pedophiles. I went in there.
I didn't expect to have a weird experience photo. I'm telling
you the music the stuff on the wall. Oh, and then creepy is the
absolute coup de gras
the coup de gras coup de gras. I'm kidding you not for I'm
kidding you not what kind of English is that?
I'm surprised he didn't say the old Jack Paar phrase I kid you
not.
That's probably what he mean meant to say but I'm kidding.
You not as bad salute. coup de gras.
I'm kidding you not folks. I'm kidding you not folks. There
were twice saying Domino's. Oh, no. At the pizza place?
Nah, they
must be sex slaves. Right here in the back. I was sitting right
here at the edge of this like table.
And the right here stops and it's all like,
stop, stop. This guy, I'm going to throw this out there. You can
say I'm fully crap is a satire.
No, it's not a satire. It's absolutely not a satire. No,
it sounds every bit. It's not.
No, it's not John. It's not it's a hell of a satire than that
stupid video of those two morons with the fake baby you sent me.
So no, it's not satire, like
table. And then right here. And it's all like one big table.
It's a weird thing to begin weird. And then right here,
there was a woman and to read. First she was reading a story
kind of staring at me weird. I'm not gonna lie. It was their mom
either.
Oh, it's it's probably their handler. And then
she finishes reading the story. And both of the kids talk about
how they want to play dominoes. And they start playing Domino's.
And she's like, Yeah, we'll play Domino's code. And they started
playing Domino's. Let's code as if it wasn't weird enough that I
saw satanic symbols all over the wall. Luminati symbols all over
the wall. Some weird clock and some weird heart creepy and then
a patty locked iron, like steel curtain door. And then a second
artwork show
as well on the wall. I'm telling you American pizza is just
pedophilia.
The whole the whole the whole roundtable has been the stock
has dropped now. The last honest pizza by the way,
I want to say something because it suddenly hit me last night
I'm like ah now I know now I know having investigated for
over a decade with great vigor John back me up. In fact when it
comes to the Catholic Church at a certain point on the show or
outside of that you said man back off a little back off
remember ACULA you said back off a little because it was every
show and it was a huge scandal which of course we don't talk
about anymore. Now do we have that we had do true In Belgium
we had the boys orphanage is that I'll have is a jersey or
white kids Jersey jersey. It's not one of those not white is
jersey. We had ended do true in Belgium. Yeah. It was horrible.
We had the Rolodex files we have yours Demick in the Netherlands
in which I got fired and radio station burned. I have
investigated these things with great vigor. Here's the fears
true what is missing from pizza gate is one thing any evidence
victims no victims.
They're victims right every every certain killing a madam
every
unless they're killing every single one of them. Every single
one and putting them in the holes in the ground that we've
seen in the Instagram feed. They mean it Jimmy Savile? There were
victims victims. Now we have the football players in the UK
victims coming forward in the do true trace in Belgium. They had
kids in cages. They released children from cages so there are
really true evil things happening. But this has no
victims Not yet. Not even a suggested victim. This is
problematic, believe me now. I do want to say see I have
three eclipses in the code atom.
I'm missing the DOM bomb I know I missed the coach here I got
it. Um by the
way, it's a great game
dominoes to all the all these abused kids have been killed
now. I'm absolutely convinced that this is going on in
government. You only have to look at Boystown, actually, the
name of the document is conspiracy of silence. And I put
the link to the YouTube video for it in the show notes again,
conspiracy of silence, you need to see this. This is about
George HW Bush, and the type of crap that was going on during
his administration. But again, with victims, some of these have
written books. I mean, there's tons and tons and tons of people
have come forward about this. The one thing I will say about,
specifically Bill Clinton is, and if you want to do some
investigative work, I would suggest looking into Jeffrey
Epstein, who was a convicted child molester. A 15 year old
so, you know, the under statutory age, I'm just saying,
you know, he is convicted of that crime. And he has what is
called the Lolita express his airplane, which, you know,
there's all kinds of in, you know, you look into the design
of that airplane, and yes, you know, there's some documentation
that there's, you know, that there's lots of bedrooms, on the
plane, and then he has his island and the flight manifest
shows that Bill Clinton has accompanied him to his house and
island on the so called Lolita Express multiple times,
sometimes without his secret security detail. So if you want
to go and investigate something, do that. Go to the Jeffrey
Epstein's house and go and go and look. I mean, that's where
you're going to find something, talk to victims of that crime.
Now, that is something very real. But the way it came up,
was let me see about this. Oh, it came up in discussion on CNN,
about Mike Pence, his son, and Mike Pence. Pence Jr, who has
now been removed from the campaign was pretty much saying
that look at pizza gate didn't you know, it was like he was on
Reddit half the time and then tweeting. And so he's been
removed and append Flynn blin Lane I'm sorry, but and national
security adviser to be. Then Flynn also tweeted something out
in regard to Epstein and Lolita Island. And there is something
here there is a possible story here but man, when you get so
it's Kayleigh McEnaney, the the blonde Republican who's always
on CNN, who I think is has really you know, she's earned
her her keep. Or Erin Burnett, this is the show that it's all
about by the way. Is it just me or is Erin Burnett starting to
look a lot like boy, George.
I haven't noticed this. But take a look. I watched it the other
day. I didn't notice that. Take a look. You should take a look
at the Boy George has a very feminine face. Yes. Possible.
Let's have a listen here once a fake news stories out. Sorry,
this
with the National Security Adviser actually tweeting these
types of conspiracy theories, it leads to questioning his
judgment. And whether or not it was a joke. It should be made
clear if he thought it was a joke. But people take this in
when people in power, say things on Twitter accounts. It gets
taken very seriously. So we just
played this in a different order. I'm going to play this.
Obviously, this is a new fake news. Okay, this is the back of
that. I'm sorry. I should have done this. First. I have a
backgrounder on the fake news. According to CNN, which I think
is kind of important to listen to this is that Brian? Schmelzer
guy, what's his name? Who does? The media show on CNN? Yeah,
whatever his name is, okay. Listen to this background.
First.
Fake News, real gunfire North Carolina man arrested in a DC
pizza shop after brandishing a gun telling police he was there
to investigate a conspiracy theory called pizza gate.
One of the hosts runs up and it's like, Did you see that guy?
You know, he had a he had a big gun.
We actually thought initially that he was a staff member
because he was walking straight for that backroom
staff member, you know, kind of looked at me and indicated that
this was a gunman
Edgar Welch appearing in court this afternoon. According to
police, Welch said that he had read online that the Comet Ping
Pong restaurant was harboring child sex slaves, and that he
wanted to see for himself if they were there. The suspect
said he was armed to help rescue them. The accusation came from
this unhinged story that originated online days before
the election saying that Hillary Clinton and her campaign
chairman John Podesta, were operating a child sex ring. The
lie took root in the digital swamps of Twitter and far right
wing websites
did covering Pizzagate enough, even though we covered it every
day to expose the Satanism and the occult and the code words
for pedophilia.
October 30, a Clinton hating Trump loving Twitter claimed A
police source said Clinton was at the center of a pedophilia
ring. Others latched on to this seemingly hoping it was true.
Which by the way is not at all what was said but that's just
the fake news. Take on it scouring dark
corners of the web for possible clues. This is how conspiracy
theories are threaded together. Lie by lie eventually unnamed
stock pizza gate and the believers started harassing the
owner of the pizza place.
We've received many, many, many calls. And but really they're
from around the world so
we didn't expect anyone to come.
On Sunday, the suspect fired his weapon. No one was hurt. With
detectives still on the scene in DC pizza gate believers were
already claiming that this real development was just part of a
cover up.
The media is claiming that this is because of pizza gate. This
is very dangerous fake news. Anybody claiming that the gunman
today it comet pizza had anything to do with pizza gate.
Okay. So the whole idea, as I said earlier, is to take pizza
gate and show how dangerous fake news can be now the conversation
conversation with the Kayleigh McEnaney and the Brian guy. And
then some Democratic woman and Burnett
with the National Security Adviser actually tweeting these
types of conspiracy theories, it leads to questioning his
judgment. And whether or not it was a joke. It should be made
clear if he thought it was a joke. But people take this in
when people would empower say things on Twitter accounts, it
gets taken very seriously. So we certainly need to be holding our
leaders accountable I errand I do think it's important though,
that Mike Flynn senior was actually tweeting about
something entirely different and wasn't able to gate but it
wasn't wasn't it was another It was another child sex ring
scandal conspiracy. But it was not. But hold on nya. Let me
point out though, what he was suggesting actually had some
basic improve, there's a mandate.
Are you done? Yeah.
You don't want to listen, I'm listening, because you kind of
killed the whole audio when you do that. Oh, sorry.
They actually had some basis in truth. There's a man named
Jeffrey Epstein, who was convicted of child pornography.
Bill Clinton took several flights with this individual.
And there were some real questions as to why events were
not just what happened. This year,
this guy, Are we really gonna do this?
We're really gonna do that. No talking about this. This is
actually something you should be talking about. Yeah.
As to why that's not what happened at a high level,
they're two separate things. Again, trying trying to parse
all of this information about this connection with that
connection. This is exactly how conspiracies start. And this is
exactly the type of logic and reasoning that we need to all be
working against and start working with facts. I mean, this
post is Yeah, well, and now we continue which actually gets
into listen to this woman. What she's saying again, which is
according to mainstream media true, but we know is false and
therefore can be classified as fake news. Kaley could check
Trump
responsibility himself to say, Enough Enough, I don't believe
even even in private to tell these people stop with this. I
don't want to see a tweet like this. I don't want to see these
things, their lies and their hateful doesn't he bear that
responsibility when some of this is coming from people who are in
his inner circle?
Does President Obama have the responsibility to say I disavow
the 911 truthers? No, because he doesn't have to go around
disavowing every single conspiracy theory because
they're fringe left wing people and I era your party has gone
around with false false false narratives of Trump is a racist
Trump is a xenophobe with no basis in truth. So we want to
talk about conspiracy theories and out there are parties
responsible for it? Sure. Let's talk about what happened
actually just in my neighborhood. So comet pizza is
only a couple of blocks away from me. But actually a few
blocks in the other direction. You had, what, two weeks ago, a
bunch of white supremacist who held an event and said Heil
Trump. False Hold
on a second. It was not a bunch of white supremacist who said
Heil Trump. It was the NPI. And a couple people said hail Trump,
not Heil, pale fat
check for white supremacist who held an event and said Heil
Trump. Now this is actually in Trump's new backyard, not
something he's disavowed. That's even happened in his own
neighborhood. Usually when there are gun shootings in have where
a president or president elect is there is some sort of
statement or some kind of denouncement of that or any kind
of horrific attack. So we haven't seen that we haven't
seen anytime that keh keh keh endorsed him or a David Duke or
any of these white supremacists were advocating on his behalf he
never said I disassociated myself Oh, that's so the the
hardly a disconnect to say that by when he has people who are
supporting him actively and campaigning for him if he
doesn't use
Brian so again, yeah, he hasn't disavowed he hasn't disavowed he
hasn't disavowed he hasn't disavowed.
Okay, slip is too long. Yeah. to two more clips.
I think you'll find this interesting. So I do want to say
that this guy who went in and discharged around
the reporting on it got a bit loud,
which some people said they never even heard it because he
had a suppressor. Sure, but the way it went down and you know
this guy isn't accurate as an IMDB IMDB page. The way it went
down is not an all the way any type of gun brandishing event
happens in Washington DC. No way. The fact that guys alive is
already telling us this is fishy. This now that when you
have walk into any place in Washington DC with an AR 15
Yeah, no. It's so
you're, you're finally getting to the point. Which is this bull
crap.
Well, it is it is now paged, not first of all, pizza gate is
bullcrap. Because it's the wrong investigation. There's no
victims. Every other case had victims, including Savile. And
everybody.
You made the point. Okay,
thank you. This Yes, I feel that this was bullcrap. And it's
being used to bring in the idea that the fake news is dangerous
in multiple ways. Okay. Now you're getting some Now here are
the next clips from NPR. And get ready for this legal recourse
against fake news. This is coming
once a fake news stories out there and the harm has been
done. What can a person do about it? I'll help us answer that
question. And
by the way, you should have a little faith in me after nine
years, I'll get around to a point. No bang in the thunder
telling me the clips. No,
I'm just saying your date you use the better your stuff is
better when the point is made. And then you pound on it. You
made me listen to that very long clip, which didn't really make
the point that I think the clips coming up probably do.
Once a fake news story is out there and the harm has been
done. What can a person do about it? Well, to help us answer that
question is Derek and Silva. He teaches media First Amendment
and internet law at the University of Denver. Welcome to
the bar. I
love internet law. I can get a degree in internet law good No,
no. Okay. So to begin, what legal action Can someone take if
they've been harmed professionally or economically
by being the subject of a fake news story? Where can they
start?
So in most situations, the person who's been harmed is
going to bring a lawsuit we call it tort. Now a tort is a non
contractual harm between two private individuals. It's a
civil lawsuit where you're alleging that one person harmed
another. The most famous tort that most people know about is
McDonald's hot coffee tort. Now, this is the famous lawsuit where
the woman got a lot of hot coffee from McDonald's and got
horribly burned by it, and then sued the fast food chain for
damages caused by the hot coffee. So anytime one private
individual harms another private individual, you can bring a
lawsuit for a tort. So one of those torts that people can have
advantage of is called defamation. Defamation is a tort
that alleges that a communication damaged your
reputation.
And so when somebody decides I have been harmed, right, by
being the subject of such a story, who do they try to hold
accountable?
Well, they can now hold accountable anybody who is
communicated the defamatory statement to anybody else that
includes the person who originated the defamatory
statement, but under something called the republication rule.
It also includes anybody who repeated the defamatory
statement. Now simply retweeting a defamatory statement is
probably not going to be enough to qualify for republication.
But passing on information that you heard from somebody else
certainly is republication. So you have some cases coming out
of Texas, for example, where hundreds and hundreds of people
were adding to a posting that had more and more and more
defamatory contents? And if you can track those people down, if
you can find out those identities, and yes, you can sue
every single person who sort of adds to that defamatory
statement or repeats that defamatory statement?
That sounds like an expensive proposition, though, right? For
the average person.
Absolutely. And that's one of the problems with defamation law
is once the information is out there, you know, is monetary
damages, really what they want to recover? And should they have
to be able to Yeah, lawyers for $500 an hour in order to recover
their good name from Australia that is clearly made up and
clearly fictitious and clearly has no basis in reality at all.
Now, what I found interesting, and there's one, you know, wind
up kicker to this. And we've talked about tort laws on the
show many times in the past in particular as regards to is it
medical profession?
Well, that's where most of this takes place. That's where that's
what they keep talking, talking about tort reform. Now, there's
a couple of things here before you go to the last clip. One is
the use of the word tort as such in this context. This if you try
to remember if a few years ago, nobody did that. In fact, this
is a good example of something I did want to bring up before
because I've run into this over the last probably the only the
last month or two where the word tort is used as such. Another
words toward tort tort. They keep talking about it. This is
when I'm telling you a year ago you would never hear this but
now for some reason, tort itself has become a meme. I don't know
why, but I've been noticing it they noticed that The literal
translation or definition of tort is a wrongful act, or an
infringement of a right. Other than under contract, leading to
a civil legal liability.
pretty broad. Generally speaking, the words that were
used to describe this are always a civil suit, a civil suit, a
defamation suit. Libel lawsuit, it was it but did the word tort
itself was never brought into it toward is defined is what you
said? Yeah. But I've never heard it until again, like within the
last month or two, it used commonly in this the way this
guy did. He just brings it up. And he starts talking about
torque,
torque, torque torque, and is that incorrect? Because of the
actual definition? It's incorrect? I
don't think it's incorrect and in the lease, but I don't know
why it's now being used when it's never been used like this.
It's always been under current you hear you heard about tort
reform? Yes, you've heard that. And that's never gotten
anywhere, by but there's something going on with this
word, not sure what it is. But when some crops up like this out
of the blue, and just keeps being hounded, and this guy's
the best example of it, I get very suspicious.
I am as well. And the kicker clip here is, to me was kind of
mind blowing. I couldn't find any any follow up or anything
that that. That that went into the fact that this is what
Donald Trump was talking about when everyone was yelling, he
wants to get rid of free speech wants to get rid of the First
Amendment booth. That's exactly what he was talking about, about
these types of laws of defamation. And that for
celebrities, people who are in the public eye, you have very
little recourse when this takes place against your public
persona. And so I found it rather interesting that they
actually talk about this without mentioning the fact that this is
exactly what Trump was talking about when he said we need to
look at the First Amendment, which was his code for Domino's.
And for Hey, we need to change the way a civil suits are
brought or can or cannot be brought against people in the
public eye.
Is there any movement afoot to review these laws or statutes
are among your community, right of academics? How are people
talking about this?
You know, I think that fake news really has kind of all set us
back a little bit. One of the ideas behind the First Amendment
is that we believe in something called the marketplace of ideas
that if you let truth heard, and falsity battle in the
marketplace of ideas, that truth will eventually win that we have
a an assumption that people are rational, and they can determine
truth from falsity. And that's kind of making us rethink these
sort of basic premises behind freedom of expression is, are we
in a situation now where truth no longer matters? And people
are not able to sort these things out? Other people say,
you know, the idea that truth is always going to win is idle
sentimentality. The reason we have freedom expression is not
because truth will always win, but because without freedom of
expression, Truth has no chance of winning whatsoever. And so
this has been a really challenging election for a lot
of people who believe in free speech. And you know, media law
has actually come up a lot in this election. And it's
something that a lot of us are thinking deeply about
my like falsity, good, good term falsity.
Like post truth post,
while it is the word of the year, after all,
well, at least with one dictionary,
so I think that's where we're going to be headed. We're not
going to be be headed but we are headed down the path of
I don't I think you're you're still cutting this pizza gate
thing a little short. I was thinking about this during this
segment. And I was thinking of like the naming conventions for
pizza places. Little Caesars has kind of a pedophile sound to it.
If he asked me, Pizza Pizza, a little buzz phrase that's kind
of sketchy. Pizza hot, hot pot. drawl. I had Yeah, kids were
straw hats and straw.
Shake ease huh shaky shaky shaky
shaky? Yeah, Lane splitter is a big one around here. lane
splitting
the lane. Cone. Domino's Pizza
and Domino's Pizza.
We should go to dama Domino's Uncle John's five guys.
Oh, yeah, Uncle John. There's a guy for you. Yeah, this is very
suspect. I can see where you could get carried away thinking
this because it's so obvious. Yeah.
Yeah, Sue probably pizza except there's no victims. Well,
there's that but we are going to see. I think maybe they
become the sausage on the pizza.
Like Soylent Green you're eating kids. I don't know man. So
that's that's all I have me I'm not selling it short John that's
bullcrap go I
think well I know I might still on your side on this. I will say
those guys guys had to commonplace probably deserve
Little grief because they're kind of creepy. And yeah, like
the guy in Austin has got talking about you know guys who
have the ear piercing that is a big giant hole. Yeah, it's blown
out with a shot blown out. Yeah, it's a big, huge and they make
it bigger and bigger bigger you know this is something that used
to take place in during when I was a
kid. It happens in Africa to this day yeah
with the you bang ease and these people that put the film cans in
their lips and they get this huge mouth.
And then they play music with Sting. Yeah, those people
sting. Yes stink. Yeah,
what are you saying? They're creepy? Is that what you're
saying? Well, they're creepy. Fine.
Yeah, but creepy is not the same as being a pedophile
necessarily.
But the more pizza gate continues, the more it's going
to be used to bring in licensing of journalism, the more it's
going to be used to sue people who propagate.
I think your real gear really hit in this long winded thing
which which includes a very long clip of people bickering is the
is the possibility that this guy was you said he had an IMDB
page? Yeah, this actor goes in there. And you're right. Nobody
goes roaming around Washington DC with an AR 15 in the
parachute, shooting off rounds and doesn't get gunned down my
point. Exactly.
So we'll continue to follow it from this direction.
Well, I hope we don't have to continue to follow it. I wish
you would end up better stuff. Good.
It's not
but I mean, I liked I liked it. I think it's funny. I got a kick
out of you know, Hillary Clinton running a pedophile ring. I
mean, that to me is just priceless. Well, I'd like to
desta and not clean Tim Podesta is totally the it he looks to
roll. That's the problem with the you're going to be that
crazy?
Yeah. Well, with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage
and say in the morning to you John C. With a C stands for
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I done meetup. Sorry. Is it on the meetup? meetup.org.com.
Whatever.
I don't know where they listed it. They have their own mailing
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a meetup in Los Angeles.
Are they meeting up at a pizza parlor?
I don't know. Maybe Pizza Pizza. Have to be a little caesars was
the funniest one. I can't remember. Split lane, split Lane
splitter lanes splitter okay. We do.
It's funny, guys. Whereas Anderson here Well, he did send
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call. Right. Well, anyway, Kevin, we didn't know it was
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I'm sorry. That's what he says. All I see is okay. Oh, I see
what you're saying. I'm sorry. I was wrong. Yeah, you're right.
I am Jen. I want to be who okay same thing douchebags get this
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Commandant General crew lock related a story of finding
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stripes at the time, Mattis was reluctant to send aircraft
without knowing the situation on the ground. According to an
account in the only thing we're dying for a book or movie. Well,
they've taken fire on it can't tell me differently how they got
all scuffed up. I'm not going to send anything until you can
assure me that the situation on the ground is secure. I think
that said situation that the army guy was bitching about as a
student of war perhaps he was avoiding another Blackhawk down
this is already too long, but it's important to point out his
reputation as a warrior monk and student of war he is the
embodiment of the warrior. ETHOS is humor might be dry, but he's,
but it's eaten up by the young gun toting war fighters. Taking
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trigger warning at the end of the show. Douche bag check bag
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at the end of the show which will be odd because it says it's
meant for the beginning of the show, but okay douchebag and
that was the other one the last one sorry.
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is not gonna happen.
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those Danny loose things.
I remember. But it's so it was long ago and it was a one off
Hmm.
Well, I'll look for it before the end of this. Well, you know,
I could was it integrate? Was it integrator die? No, it was
evolve.
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You have your pan out. Oh, yes. Okay, on. This is Allison. Who
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We're back now with a new warning for drivers about a
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In California this suspect is using a mystery device to break
into this SUV stealing an expensive bike in Seattle
another suspects holding his backpack close to the car door
and boom he's in and it's happening across the country.
But now officials at the National Insurance Crime Bureau
say they may have solved the mystery. This device that fits
in a small bag could be what thieves are using showing us how
it works. Arthur we're going to demonstrate this and by the way
this is a two person job because the device comes in two
different pieces your piece and my piece my producer Giovanna
here is going to play the victim basically any one of you who
park at a mall parking lot any big parking lot. So here's what
happened. You and I are going to play the suspects we'd come over
here and we'd sort of be in a parking lot talking amongst
ourselves nothing suspicious meanwhile, you would park your
car and here's what what happened.
Okay, getting out of my car, locking my door like I normally
would and just walking away
what she doesn't see our suspect trailing behind her with the
device, cloning the signal for cars key fob in just seconds,
got the green light got a signal from the fob and I'm backing
off.
So his device just automatically sent the signal to my smaller
device. Now this is basically the key to the car. Now
remember, the door is completely locked when I hold this up to
the door. Look, I opened the door right up and that's not all
with this device. Watch this. Yes, I just started the car. So
now I'm a thief in your car driving away within seconds, all
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I really love that effect. I got in there and I tried to I saw it
like it. They got a fast one though. Yeah, nice. Yeah, so
Okay, now this was expected we'd let's face it. Reality about a
modern car, which of course is my excuse to keep my 24 year old
Lexus, which drives like a train, it still drives well, and
people are going to see me and they say, Oh, is that the old
car you keep bitching about and then show that you do. These
cars have got GPS. And ever since about 1996, or 97, there's
like a GPS thing that it's the newer ones where they can they
know where you are all the time. The cars use this wireless
remote you stick in your pocket, you never have to pull a key
out, you just walk up to the car, it opens and the stars got
a button you push a button ended buttons makes it star just like
a 1945 Packard, general button on the sixth on the sixth.
I think then you have to use a shotgun shell to start the
Packard
uses a button there's a button, okay. And I why they will, it
seems to me, I don't know, maybe I'm wrong as I could actually I
probably am wrong. The mechanical key that you used to
use this, like my old Lexus, you stick a key and fancy key as a
matter of fact, so you can do a thing and he had torn it. And
then the car starts and then you're on your way. Now there's
no key, there's nothing to turn. So it's all to the electronics
that are on one side of the car that do all this fancy stuff.
And then the wireless key thing which the battery can go dead,
by the way can't get in your car. Great. That little item is
generally speaking and
my question is why? Or why isn't this communication between car
and key encrypted? That seems like the obvious thing to do.
That's not the problem. The problem with this device is they
clone your key. So they would clone the encryption key too. So
they get behind you with this little device that just talks to
the key in your pocket or the key in your purse in that case.
And then the key tell us is oh, I'm busy you are you the car?
No, yeah, I'm the car will give me the code. Okay, here it is.
Okay, now,
I'm so I'm gonna have to I gotta throw up an objection on that.
Okay, if you're using encryption properly, then the only thing
that will be sent back and forth is the one time verification
code one time verification code. They're not going to do that.
Because you have Well, geez, I mean, I can do with my email,
why would they do it in the car, you have a public key and a
private key. There's no way that if someone got that one time
token that you can use it again, I don't understand why that's
not possible. Sorry.
I'm, I'm sure that there is an encryption mechanism that makes
it possible, right, but they're not using it because
that two and a half minute report didn't include any of
that.
Well, I'm thinking, No, because the car companies aren't going
to do any of that. They didn't do it because nobody thought
that would be one of the solutions. But that's at the car
level. What are you gonna do with all these old cars on the
road? We're talking about how long this has been going on a
decade long to millions of cars with this stupid system. At
least. So my reg, I have a recommendation. Yeah,
disable that and use your key. Well, a lot of these don't have
a key. Oh, mine does.
Yeah, well, your car's not that new.
It's 2015 No, no. 2014 You're right,
Brian for you. But yeah, but yours it's a truck to do you
have to be more practical. You know, you can't have no keyhole
at all. Yeah, you could disable that if you could, but then you
still have to turn it somehow turn it back on. And I look at
those things I have my daughter's got a Volkswagen and
it has one of these electronic keys or going to but I've seen
these things. And it's there's no way to disable it. Just know
little button it turns it off. It's not like a like on my
Lexus, which is an old 93. Lexus. They used to have a you
know, little button on the side of the key that would open the
doors. Yeah, but that could be disabled by turning it off
inside the car. Right. But they and there's also the issue with
making the button work to start the engine on the newer cars.
It's not the way to go. You can't do it. But what you can do
is be a little nerdy and carry a a aluminum foil bat pouch,
a Faraday cage, or a small
Faraday cage with that cloth that they make and then as soon
as you soon as you get out of the car, you NBN hit the button
to lock the car. You drop it into the Faraday cage pouch and
then stick that in your purse. This was not suggested at all.
You know, I have a suggestion when I was just driving my just
start out driving in the Netherlands had a number of
cars. My first car was a Volvo 141 which was a timesing tank
with a lawnmower engine you have very classic. Then I had a
Volkswagen Bug 1303 which is souped up. That was classic. And
I also had souped up out Yeah, it was and I also had a Citro N
dosha vol two CV,
which that's a gutless wonder of all time. Yeah, it's
the two horsepower three Speed I think it was three, three speed
on the dashboard with this big stick that was like the push it
in and to the left for one and backlog at the Impaler the
Impaler Exactly. But because it by design had kind of like our
sardine can top that you could roll back that was a it was a
ragtop. But not you know it literally you rolled it back,
you had two people to roll it classic. So these things were
very easy to steal because you can get into them. And we had a
steering wheel lock. And it was great. It was a it was a long
piece of metal with you know there was adjustable in length
with rounded edge on one side and then like an S it rounded
the other way and you put one end of the s around your brake
pedal. They still
make these I wonder they were we had one for a Miata that we once
had. These are
easy, easy to deploy in a it doubles as a as an ugly stick to
beat someone over the head. Yeah. That's my recommendation.
Well, that's that the point of that report was they weren't
necessarily wanting to steal the cards. They wanted to steal the
stuff that was in there. I understand. I understand. So
then that so your recommendation my recommendation doesn't work.
And then my second don't keep stuff in your car.
That's my second recommendation. Totally shitting your car.
I'm telling you a Faraday cage carry one with you at all times.
I have a couple you Yeah. I have a Faraday bags. And in the
Faraday bag. I always have two ham radio walkie talkies, or as
we call them Handys and H T, the Handy talkie
where are they in a Faraday cage?
So if we get nuked or some EMP then they'll still work. Oh, I
get it. It's a set. You know. Hello. Hello, McFly.
If we get new touring or an EMP Yeah, big EMP boom, right over
Austin. You'll be ready. That's right. I have my the world I
have my meals ready to eat. I have my one acre crisis garden.
I think I have some iodine dropped here somewhere. A bola.
That's right. That's right. Ebola.
Whoa, yay, Bo.
I have a follow up on the Ebola crisis. There was a kind of a
post mortem on NPR got a lot of NPR clips from people for some
reason. With a guy from the CDC, and we always talk about how the
truth wants to come out. And people say the darndest things
like wow, you know the truth kind of want and sometimes it
comes out in the form of jokes.
Once you say you Oh, absolutely.
In fact, I think most people who joke about the guy and make a
joke about some back,
just to give you a little backup on that thesis, the great
folklorist legmen, can remember his first name, wrote these two
books called the rationale of the dirty joke. And he's
surmised, and kind of prove that any way you can kind of
psychologically analyze somebody by the type of dirty joke they
like to tell.
Yes, exactly. And this was a very serious conversation about
Ebola and how challenging it was for the operatives in these
countries who are running the the medical facilities to get
people to come in and stay in the facility until they could be
treated. And one of the challenges they had is they had
people who were accustomed to taking drugs, you know, of the
illegal substance kind. And they they, you know, they were
tweaking they wanted, they wanted their drugs, they you
know, so they had to figure out a way to, you know, to get
people what they needed, so that they wouldn't be outside of the
tents, you know, spreading Ebola, if any of this is true at
all. But in this report, we may learn something,
I told the government that we had to anticipate that some of
these gentlemen may be drug users, and they may go into
withdrawal if we put them in the ECU. And, in fact, that was the
case or about two to three days later. They were some of them
getting agitated. And somehow they found a way to support
their, their needs for drugs.
Did you have to do some of that to help them get what they
needed to keep them in this facility where they could be
quarantine?
No, I wouldn't. CDC didn't pay for that or do that. But the
government found a way for the communities support them. So
they were doing that.
So but in some ways, it's sort of an awkward situation for the
government because in some ways you're asking to sort of look
the other way while someone's doing something illegal here.
Yeah, I think that they same time. They be like any
withdrawal, they need to treat treatment. It wasn't a
conventional treatment, that's for
sure. It was odd for public health officials to be
sanctioning illegal drug use. But again, when you're in the
middle of an unfolding catastrophe, you sometimes have
to bend the rules. Even though CDC wasn't actually supplying
anyone drugs, the arrangement produced lots of double takes.
One day a Liberian government minister turn to Frank during a
discussion and joked about the backdoor drug channel.
And and I understand that CDC is providing them with the
marijuana. And I said excuse me seriously like to correct that.
He said CDC is not providing the marijuana, but we're providing
the cocaine.
How about that?
Now it's been down, there's a clip with a punch line.
Now there's there's one other thing about this, though, since
when? Do people have withdrawal symptoms from marijuana? They
don't. And since when do they have withdrawal symptoms from
cocaine? They don't, they don't. So they think maybe this whole
story is somehow it doesn't fit. But then the joke about that
we're not supplying the marijuana. We're supplying the
cocaine. Dude, who knows what they were doing out
there? I'm gonna have to be heroin if there's anything going
on like that.
I just thought it was funny.
Well, since you brought up marijuana, I have a clip I. So
I'm watching the NFL and NFL today, it's a show on Showtime
with a bunch of guys out you know yakking for an hour about
the football games in the last week. And so they have this guy
who is executive producer, and also one of the hosts Phil
Simms, of famous quarterback from New York Giants from years
ago, as his son on who apparently got on the show,
because he did some rant on one of these sports shows, or the
website actually, about marijuana, how it should be
legalized across the board, and that the NFL in particular
should let people use it instead of letting them get strung out
on oxycodone, and
all the other. Isn't there. A famous ut player who also was
advocating this
is probably there's a bunch of football players who advocate
it. And so they do a little thing on here. And it can here
come the old memes. And I really felt, you know, like this was I
mean, I'm watching like, I'm watching some from the 40s or
listening to these guys go back and forth, but Reefer Madness,
and there's definitely not a mention of CBD. They talked
about, you know, they kind of beat around the bush they didn't
do enough research, but play this clip marijuana in the NFL
and and it should be mentioned, that these players who get just
massively injured and all kinds of different ways really need
some sort of a pain medication, like CBD, which does not get you
Hi, in any way
on Bleacher Report. So that brought it up. Hey, Phil, we're
gonna do this segment, because your son said this. Well, this
is great that yeah, so I'm fine with it, you know, and I said,
you know, I'm gonna come on there, and I'm going to just
smash it. You know that words, I'm going to be anti against
everything he's saying. And then I did a lot of research. I
called some experts in the field of all this and what we're
talking about, and I'm telling you immediately, it changed my
mind. Because there's ingredients in marijuana. I'm
not saying legalize marijuana, but the ingredients and
marijuana just a well known doctor told me this. He goes,
it's anti inflammatory. That's the ingredients are talking
about. So that was one thing. It helps nerve pain. And the
biggest thing, like Judy said, Mike, you were saying, Judy, to
get players off the painkillers, this just a few of the things
that if you could separate it, not smoking marijuana, but get
the ingredients and it can help you, you know, just hearing
that, and no one pro football and know what a lot of X players
go through, and what normal people go through. Just reading
this, in the last two days is changed my thoughts on So Judy,
let me let me ask you this, from the perspective of the NFLPA, is
this something that they're going to use in their
negotiations trying to get this to be allowed to bid for I would
say, like, as Chris was saying recreational use as well.
Well, I'm not sure that the league will ever go to that or I
think we're a long way from the league approving it for
recreational use, I could certainly see a carve out for
medicinal use where it's closely monitored, where the team
doctors know exactly what's going on. But it's a negotiating
point, it's got to be negotiated between the union and the league
and you better believe they're going to try to extract
something for you
to get it let's get Judy but the thing about marijuana you know,
everybody goes all the I've said some of the good things that are
added to but the other part about it is to it makes you
drowsy your memory other things you lose so those are the
drinking and driving that the CB
D says not do that. Ep D does not do any of those.
Of course it's gonna happen if you're smoking marijuana. So I'm
fighting you if you're going to watch ESPN for your medical
information, you know, you get what you pay for
about the grades that are in there that can help. All I know
is that there's two sides of every story. I talked to people
in law enforcement that I know very, very well they tell me
that it's a gateway drug that they're totally cool.
recreational use. I think I do understand where you're coming
from the medicinal side of it and I say in how you take care
of world then I would definitely use it. As far as recreational
where you're going. I think that's too extreme, especially
for NFL players.
Oh my goodness.
Yeah, it's a gateway drug. Hold on a second. Let's stop is that
was Buber Esiason who obviously doesn't go away
from the Cincinnati Bengals. He said knowingly.
Yes, I know your prize pool. Boomer Esiason, who obviously
has cops, as friends who tell him oh, I've talked to my
friends who are cops, and they said it's a gateway drug hold on
and say what's the real gateway drug we're talking about here?
Is it marijuana? Is it oxycodone? What gateway drug are
we talking about? Say
oxy is the is the definition of a gateway drug because people
can't afford it. They get cut off and they go to heroin.
Yeah, how many people can afford pot and then go to heroin?
Nobody know. Although heroin is way cheaper than pot. It is
right way cheaper than a pump and nobody goes to here because
it's so what they're looking for and
but there's a lot of mess. I think meth is meth may be a
gateway drug.
Well, I read a lot of things. Of all the things we've talked
about. The least gateway drug is marijuana
and the fact that you know the it's the cannabinoids you want
it's not the it's not the THC.
Yeah, especially are football players that easy
to separate the CBS how do you separate the CBD?
Is it just an alcohol separation of some sort? I'm not sure they
probably use it this still a disparate, it's probably
distilled off. There's a million ways to separate these
chemicals. And and I get the sense because there's so much
CBD product out there. And they're blending it you know,
let's put a little of this and a little that make it a 4060 as
big as 6040 that is probably very easy to separate.
I got some some stuff from Danny, the drug dealer who went
to California to bump it up in the mountains and he's learning
how to grow all this stuff. And he sent me he sent me some stuff
through the mail. I walked in the mailroom here my building Oh
my God.
Now it's thinking Danny the drug dealer Yeah. Danny do a better
job of sealing this stuff up.
Now I'm I'm I'm pretty I'm a pretty weathered guy. This is oz
gorilla. What? weathered? I mean experienced with the with the
marijuana product.
I'll tell you outside too much.
Yeah. Okay. I'm your experience. I'm experienced some standing in
the area. You do having grown up in Amsterdam, and I have to say
this oz gorilla stuff that knocked me on my ass that is
uncommon. Now I didn't immediately say wow, that was
great. I need some horse. But there definitely is some some
hard ass stuff out there.
I oz gorilla has gorilla. Yeah,
I I want a refund. It's not it's not fun. I mean, if you want to
go to sleep, but I rarely have that anyway.
I didn't know most of this stuff's not fun anymore. The CBD
is interesting. And night. Like I said, I'll say it again. For
everyone who listens to the show, they know that they're
gonna get you they're gonna roll their eyes. You go into one of
these drug pot shops. In Washington state. The place is
filled with old ladies who have aches and pains and this stuff
does just great.
You know, I still have the kratom which I need to try. Now
that is on the list. But after our conversation about
mushrooms, oh man, I received so much email about that particular
topic and it was consistently like this. You need to try this.
This can give you a life changing experience. It will
take about seven hours you should fast a few days
beforehand and take a week off. Yeah, how
many mushrooms are these guys eating?
I don't know, man.
That was my thought exactly. Like I can't do that.
I've never heard anyone say anything so crazy. Yeah. Fast
and take a week off.
But I had the whole like, possibility of being high for
seven hours. No, no, no. And everyone's like, well, you know,
usually it's great. You could get a really bad trip not
looking for that. No bad trip not looking for it. And that's
why I like DMT 20 minutes done you know you're gonna live I'm
gonna live if you have a bad trip
Theremin play the Theramin man, you're gonna have a bad trip.
Really, really bad trip. I'm seeing monkeys flying out here
that's my little Oh,
that was my lead into your mushroom clip. I thought you'd
catch the drift.
Oh, the mushroom clip. Yeah, yeah, the mushroom clip What was
it? I can't remember this.
We're back now with what you might call an unconventional way
that has helped some cancer patients feel better psychedelic
medicine, you might say, in the form of magic mushrooms and
doctors say for some they're working well, magic. Let's get
more from NBCs Kristen, don't
we magic mushrooms. Chances are something like this comes to
mind. But you may soon think of this a medication too small but
encouraging studies out today show the hallucinogenic
ingredient in some mushrooms called psilocybin reduced
anxiety and depression in 80% of cancer patients for more than
six months after receiving just one dose. So you've been through
a lot though in your life with Gail Cowan was in her fourth
bout with breast cancer.
I was really feeling sorry for myself and feeling very
stressed.
After extensive psychological testing, she was given a pill
and watch closely by doctors as she listened to music and went
on a vivid mind trip. It's beautiful. It's you know, it's
something you want to embrace when took the drug two years ago
and still
like every night when I get in bed, I find that I have a smile
on my face.
Long term effect that has doctors hoping for more studies
conducted under tight DEA regulation and medical
supervision people should
not look at this research and data and extrapolate from that
they can go get mushrooms illicitly. Try it and think it's
going to help them
but researchers are now encouraged by the potential of
psychedelics to treat things like alcoholism, smoking and
depression. Just this week, the FDA approved the lung homework
large scale trial using the illegal party drug ecstasy for
PTSD, once criminal compounds getting a second look and giving
some like Gail Cowan a second chance. And I think it's
wonderful. Kristen Dahlgren, NBC News, New York
worked with her.
I find that very interesting. I mean, it may very well be true
that I mean, you know, we're learning more and more about our
natural surroundings and what natural things can do for us and
I find that encouraging, but here's my problem. The
advertisement that you hear, you know, for magic mushrooms, like
is also nice. One bowl, and I know the minute I take my
mushrooms it's gonna give me one like this Well, that's what I'm
expecting. So not thinking I want
I'd be more in line with expecting this from this clip.
This is the YouTuber and I recommend people check this
woman out. Or girl. I didn't send this to you because I know
you would get so hurt.
Yeah. Especially small prep night. Yeah. Especially
this is a very short clip, an excerpt from boxy. And what she
has to say, well,
you'd have the classic I would have remembered you because I
love your hair. And and it's so it's so pretty, it's so long and
and I have been groomed the hair out for two years. And this is
as far as a cotton list is it's not very long. But your hair is
so long and it's it's so it must have taken forever for it to get
that long and I really like it and so I think I would have
remembered it was I really love your hair. Also, I really love
your TV. He's still cute. And he is and he's super cute. And I
would if I had him I would just I would love him and cuddle him
all day long. And you should too. You should be happy you
have such a cute little kitten that is so cute. Also, we need
your nails fell off. I giggled because that used to happen to
me
all the time. Yeah Vyvanse magic mushrooms Vyvanse is what I'm
thinking you're thinking man you magic mushrooms No, I don't know
what I'm thinking I think is Vyvanse
like the earlier clip in the show we had we had this event I
think I pointed it out and she did the same thing which is over
pronounced the the T's that are in the middle of a word. Yeah,
so she said
got 10 gotten important. Now this
is interesting because there's we actually played some of the
some shows ago about how there's this and we talked about it like
the tooth brush to some letters are missing and we're starting
to hear people drop the T's in the middle which are they say
gotten
and gotten gotten gone. Yeah. So she's the opposite gotten.
So there's a gotten going on and gotten gotten gotten important.
So there's something going on with the language trying to it's
almost like the climate, you know, it's just trying to make
up for people saying
Oh, dialogue is like trying to balance it out. Yeah, that's
what I'm saying. Get under pronunciation and over
pronunciation. Yeah. I like that.
Yeah, like information man. New shit has come to light. Just
want to share an email that came in John from our friend Brian,
the gay Crusader in Chicago. Adam, I just heard the clip of
the chick who was scared and this is referring to Mike Pence.
And I have to agree I'm scared to remember this is our official
gay Crusader. Yes, Governor Mike Pence did sign the Religious
Freedom Restoration Act, which potentially allowed for
discrimination against LGBT individuals. However, people
completely ignore the fact yeah, I forgot to mention this again.
That after the bill became law and concerns were voiced about
the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, enabling
discrimination against gays. It was Governor Mike Pence, who
called on lawmakers to pass legislation clarifying that it
does not allow business owners to discriminate in providing
services. Adam, did you know that Indiana law prohibits
discrimination in state employment based on sexual
orientation and identity in Indiana by law, you cannot be
fired for being LGBT. And I think Brian should have
clarified that does that mean you have to be lesbian, gay,
bisexual and transgender all at the same time? We're just one of
them. Anyway, if you work for the US federal government, you
can be fired simply for being LGBT, as there is no law that
provides the same protections as Indiana. did Mike Pence say dumb
shit about LGBTs in the 90s? Yes, but who didn't?
Love this guy?
And then he goes on and on about how Hillary is horrible. While
Trump's words may be murky about LGBT rights, the man hosted
Elton John's wedding long before same sex marriage was cool and
rolled out the red carpet at Trump Tower for Caitlyn Jenner
to use the women's bathroom. With those two actions Trump has
done far more for LGBT people than Hillary has ever done. So
Adam, I'm scared because despite the ability to fact check these
things at their FindIt fingertips. Young people have no
interest in doing anything that might allow them to discover
that reality is different than what lobotomized Talking Heads
suggest it is fact check false. Thank you, Brian.
Little twist Giroux there that letter
Eisah. Well, thank you.
That's why I'm scared. Good. novelist.
Yeah, that's a gay man in Chicago. There you go. It'd be
if he were black and Jewish would be better. The best we can
do. Hey, big news in Europe in the Euro lands. We have
elections going down. We got things taking place and in
Germany. We Angular Merkel Tanaka was reelected to
represent her party and upcoming elections and well the way she
did it is the way most politicians do.
Angela Merkel says the burqa should be banned in Germany
quote, wherever it is legally possible. She also toughen her
stance on refugees. And she made the statements while bidding for
a fourth term as Chancellor had her ruling CDU party conference.
There you go. So the lady who let him in is now saying cow
tallying a bit to the dissatisfaction of the
population. In Italy on Sunday, there was the referendum, which
I don't think we brought up
and talking about it very, very, very, very briefly, casually
said we're gonna do more Well, here's
a more clip,
as promised Italian Prime Minister Matteo Renzi has
formally tendered his resignation to the president.
His decision to step down after a crushing defeat in Sunday's
referendum has plunged the country into turmoil, with
attention now turning to forming a new government. Consultations
now get underway and due to last until Saturday afternoon,
Brianna de la Repubblica President reserved his decision
and asked the government to remain in office to cover the
current business. The head of state will start consultations
with the political parties on December 8, the schedule of
which will be announced through the press office, President
Mattarella is expected to ask a member of Renzi his Democratic
Party to try and head up a caretaker government however
many across the political spectrum are hoping for early
elections speeding up the timetable could mean gains for
anti establishment parties that want to turn their backs on the
Euro something which has Brussels on edge.
Okay. I think this is rather important news. I think so. What
I had I fell asleep last night after like three seconds of DHA
unplugged. You guys talk about it? About a bit. Okay. Well,
what is the consensus financially when it comes to
banks, the European Central Bank, the euro, but
no, no, I had no clue. Thanks for asking. Yeah,
well, I thought you might have an idea. I'm gonna have to ask.
Then. My former New York banker that
I think I think it's gay is worse than we think here's
here's a clip of the stuff that definitely is not going to get
reported over here. This is the This is the clip that says
leaving EU Veneto do other things.
Well have any toys in the north of Italy. Although it makes up
only 8% of the country's population, it is the third
wealthiest region contributing over 9% of national GDP. BENITO
has long been pushing for independence a non binding
referendum that was held two years ago showed that almost 90%
of voters want to break away from Italy now one of the issues
Benito wants to take control over is its tourist industry.
Ah, well if if they're talking about a well like what is the
Italian version of Brexit exit?
I don't know. But I think just got Buster. Buster buzzer
buster.
Okay, well,
we go on, there's even more action like this. I mean, they
point out to you, we don't pay much attention to it. But we do
know there's been the split off movements. I think Catalonia is
one of the most important also Flanders which isn't mentioned
in the second half of this report, right. But here's a
bunch of them going on here on finito
is not the only area in the EU that wants to break away.
Spain's autonomous Basque region is also desperate to hold an
independence referendum. Another Spanish region Catalonia has
already held a number of local independence votes, however,
matrade branded all of them on constitutional. The secessionist
movement of the autonomous siteURL region of Italy is also
pushing to break away while in Germany now but very party
claims the region would be better off out of the country
and the EU. There are calls intensified after the
independence vote in Scotland in 2014, which, even though it
failed, still sends a strong signal across the rest of the
EU.
And the other funny thing is of all these places, the only one
that doesn't seem to want to break away anymore is Quebec.
They don't ha
Oh, what happened to them? Well, I take a Becker's Get your act
together. I
have an update on the Brexit. Some seemingly important
decisions were made and things were voted on. And at the end of
the report, you'll find out well.
Question British MPs have voted to support the government's
timetable for Brexit after a potential rebellion in the House
of Commons was avoided. The government wants to trigger the
divorce procedure by the end of March to set in motion formal
negotiations. In a compromise move. It accepted an opposition
labor motion to publish a Brexit plan that Parliament can
scrutinize for
months.
Labour has been pressing the Prime Minister and the
government to set out its plan for Brexit. Mr. Speaker facing
defeat on today's motion. The government has now caved in
government has come under pressure to reveal details of
its plan. Critics say it hasn't got one over issues such as
potential access to the EU single market, it still insists
it can't give too much of its negotiating stance away, we will
need to find a way through a vast number of competing
interests to manage our exit for the Union so that our people
benefit from it. That's the aim of this exercise. So our people
benefit from it. To do this, the government must have the
flexibility to adjust during negotiation. This week in the
Supreme Court the government is appealing against a ruling that
it alone cannot trigger Article 50 of the Lisbon treaty to begin
the Brexit process, but needs Parliament's assent. Judgment is
expected in January.
Okay, so we're still at the same spot. They big noise big running
around but well, we're not going to do anything until you publish
a timetable and a shedule of what you're going to do. And
then we still have to decide whether you know, we can
actually do it or not. So
I guess, I guess, of course, got involved and said you just can't
just do this. You have to go to Parliament, right? It was It
doesn't. I don't see it not going through getting through
Parliament, but they're making a big stink. I was watching
question time this week, and they were making a big stink
about the customs treaties and some treaty where they can they
can let the shipping attention as they come through. We have
the same thing going on in this country.
Here's a question because they keep talking about divorce
procedures. This is how it's the metaphor is their divorce
divorce procedure. Do they think they'll carry the metaphor all
the way through? Will there be alimony to be paid?
Well, there's a $75 billion dollar bill that supposedly the
UK owns the EU that keeps
cropping up. That's right. That's right.
I'm not sure what that how that's going to be dealt with.
Well, who was the primary breadwinner the EU or the UK?
The way they've got a structured they've like deep balled all
these countries and they don't you think they'd like they taken
all the fishing rights away from the UK and then given them to
Norway and elsewhere, so everyone can have their own
little thing that the it was supposed to do. They were
supposed to divvy up the this new world they're creating, and
Great Britain was assigned to be the financial center of
everything.
Yeah, yes. And then now you can see that now they're moving to
France to Frankfurt and to Amsterdam, a lot of banks are
opening up. subsidiaries.
Right. Not quite the same No. Center, you know, and the real
center of banking could have been Switzerland, but they would
they refuse to play this
game, both Frankfurt and Amsterdam. Exchanges.
They have some but I think if they can move the whole thing to
Liechtenstein, which is a banking kind of a banking
operation. Yeah, I think they would solve their problem. And
but right now they Brits want to keep the banking thing going.
And so well, we can still be the de facto bankers of the EU not a
problem. Well, this is a mess. They got themselves into deep
and now they're really they're getting screwed themselves.
And now we're talking about the bankers. two clips and a lead
into one I saw you have the first is regarding the Euro bore
interest rates, which were manipulated. As you'll recall, I
have a question about this report, European
Commission has fined JP Morgan Chase Credit Agricole and HSBC a
total of 485 million euros for their alleged role in a cartel
to fix the price of Europe or interest rates. The ECB says the
trio colluded to manipulate the financial benchmark.
Today's final decision sends a clear message
as for half of the anti competition, lady, I don't know
why she's in charge of this.
Banks, like all companies have to respect EU competition rules.
The commission found a series of chakra messages between traders
at the banks congratulating each other on their actions. It's
still in this thing, foreign exchange trading.
So here's my question. Now they find them half a half a billion.
But if they have the evidence of these guys with this illegal
activity, why aren't they arresting them? They had they
know who they are. They committed a crime.
They're bankers. You don't arrest bankers.
That's where's the protest? That's nuts.
I don't know this to me. Now that when you don't protest over
that your protest over Trump,
or you might want to protest over this. This new thing that
happened in Greece we have the bankers came in and you know,
they've had austerity and all these deals, and now they need
some debt relief, because, you know, there's just no way and
people are being squeezed squeezed out of every penny,
they've got every drachma. Of course, it's euro cents. And I
think that they're in worse trouble than ever,
eurozone finance ministers have agreed to a modicum of debt
relief for struggling Greece, but there is division on the
exact reforms required to hit fiscal targets. The Euro group
has met to assess how far the country has advanced with
reforms before the next tranche of loans are released. A second
review, looking at potential changes to Greek labor reform is
still ongoing. Once the second review of the program is
completed, and one way or another it will be completed,
things will get better. We'll see an improvement in the
investment environment QE a return to the financial I think
he said QE
they're going to perform quantitative easing, if he said
QE.
Well, they aren't doing QE in Europe, but it's pretty lame
compared to what we did.
Just felt like he was saying it was gonna be about Greece itself
movement in the investment environment, QE a return to the
financial markets. In a couple of years. We'll feel this in our
pockets several but don't get any ideas about prosperity. The
ECB believes that the 3.5% target for the budget surplus
excluding debt servicing costs is achievable within the bailout
timeframe, or even be leaner took Tito is our correspondent
in Athens.
Well, in this case, I would say the devil is in the numbers, a
very specific number. In particular, I'm talking about
the commitment of a 3.5% primary surplus in the medium term,
which means at least until 2021 Why is this a problem? Because
numbers are very hard to manipulate. It is totally
different to say I will reform my economy. I will become more
competitive, I will return to sustainable finances like the
memorandums have been saying until now. There are many ways
to go around the find alternatives to achieve these
goals. But the 3.5% surplus says that even if the economy grows
as fast as the government hopes still the state will be sucking
in more revenue that it gives out.
I don't think there's a single member of the European Union who
has it here to the 3.5% and now the part of the deal is Greece
has to do that. Not gonna happen
No, it's not going to happen. Of course not and nobody else does.
They do fudge the numbers. Well, my story about Greece is
different. Actually. My clip is about the the outrageous riots
going on as we speak that no news media in this country wants
to touch.
violent clashes between protesters and authorities have
taken place overnight in central Athens following a peaceful
march marking the anniversary of a teenager's death at the hands
of police a few years ago, dozens of demonstrators wearing
masks threw Molotov cocktails and firecrackers with riot
police. Of similar clashes also took place in Greece's second
largest city Thessaloniki. Crowds gathered to commemorate a
15 year old Alexandra it's critical for us. It was built by
two police officers in 2008. Back then his death triggered
the worst riots Greece had seen in decades and as we can see
emotions there are still strong. A former British diplomat
Professor William Mallinson says couple anniversary emotions with
frustration of the government and people are acting out.
Yeah, why would we cover that? That's no good. We have Trump
riots.
Yeah, you know what that Oh, man.
I got a note that I wanted to share with the group. You know,
we've received many reports about millennials having issues
with seeing people eat or hearing people eat or drink
certain liquids. Anyone I've talked to?
Where are these reports? We've talked about it in the past.
Don't remind me I don't remember.
Yeah, but people can't like lip smacking is a big deal which
we've also talked which has come up on this show. Which Which one
with your mouth opens a good one? Yeah. Oh. Now there's
there's there's some there's
some phobia tongue comes out the tongue and my favorite now these
kids are getting triggered
by this stuff. By to do watch
no by he there's a pee in their pants. What kind of trigger are
we talking about
that you know, triggered where they go? They get all weirded
out. You know? Like, like, with the hexagon hexagrams hexagons,
the same idea.
get weirded out. Yeah. Okay. Well, continue
title of a note regarding our sound quality millennial safe
podcast. As from Karsa. As she says, Adam, just wanted to tell
you how much I appreciate the work you put into the sound
quality of your show. As a sufferer of misophonia there it
is. Look it up misophonia M ys, p h o n IA Oma. I told you there
was a
skill set to book a knowledge and read the definition. Here we
go.
misophonia literally hatred of sound. What was proposed in 2000
is a condition in which negative emotions thoughts and physical
reactions are triggered by specific sounds. It is also
called select sound sensitivity syndrome and sound rage.
misophonia has no classification as an auditory, neurological or
psychiatric condition. There are no standard diagnostic criteria.
It is not recognized in the DSM four, which by the way, yeah,
everybody recognizes everything you get into DSM four. I can,
which is the codes, and there's little research on its
prevalence or treatment. However proponents suggest misophonia
can adversely affect the ability to achieve life goals and enjoy
social situations. Do you want to hear more about this fine.
Oh yeah, I'm all in on this one.
Signs and symptoms. As of 2016, the literature on this phone yet
was very limited. Some small studies show that people with
misophonia generally have negative feelings and strong
negative feelings thoughts and physical reactions to specific
sounds which the literature calls trigger sounds. The sounds
are apparently usually soft but can be loud. One study found
that 80% of the sounds were related to the mouth, eating
yawning, etc. And about 60% were repetitive. A visual
that one right. That triggers me what? Somebody takes a big glass
of water and then they go Yeah, you do that? No, I don't. Yeah.
Ah, that's it. That's it. I
trigger you.
Yes, I'm triggered now. I'm getting all weirded out. Here's
what I love that okay. But what's interesting is that it
appears that a miss phonic reaction can occur also in the
absence of an actual sound. And this is
That sound is triggering me that you're making there. It should
sign for that.
Let me see if we have anything. Anything else here mechanism
diagnosis management anyway, so I'll go back to my email. I want
to tell you how much I appreciate the work that you put
into the sound quality of your show as a sufferer of misophonia
no agenda is a rare gleaming gem in a sea of diarrhea. Oh god,
that's a bumper sticker. There you go. A rare gleaming gem in a
sea of diarrhea. It sounds like a bullshit millennial condition
I know. But it's unfortunately all too real. I am generally an
easygoing person but certain high frequency sounds such as
lip smacking, or loud chewing. Fill me with an intensive
completely irrational desire to attack the source or flee the
scene. I love audio I work making high end speakers where I
listened to eight hours of podcasts and audio books all day
and I don't stop when I get home. Yes, stop. Can
we get a discount?
I'm sure. However, very few podcasters take the time to
learn anything about sound. It seems to just back it seems they
just go find an expensive microphone then pointed at their
yappers and go. The result is that it sounds like my ear is
located inside their mouths for the whole show. I can hear
Molland news every clicking motion of his tongue as the
saliva crackles during a dramatic pause. And I can hear
this spit building up in Rogan's mouth followed by his hurried
mid word gulps as he tries to continue the rant without pause
it sucks but in order to tolerate these and other
podcasts that I love, I have to turn on an equalizer and cut out
any frequency above 1000 Hertz. Well that by the way. Is is a is
a good tip. We could sell ms phobia misophonia filters
Yeah. Which is it's a cheap filter to do 1000 Yeah, and you
just put it in you plug one end into your iPhone the other into
your ear buds and
then you hear Yeah, then you hear something like let me see
I've got to get the right thing to do this right. Okay, let me
try this then it sounds like this
just talking normal just talk just talk normal for a second
talk normal.
Okay, now you can have them Are you there yet? I've got this new
device it's a little different Yeah,
no, I fixed it. It sounds great job he did you sound great. That
no agenda misophonia filter anyway, but no, not no agenda.
Listening to you feels like buttery smooth chocolate being
poured into my ears coating my soul. Instead of making you want
to stab up my eardrums with a pencil. If only the world would
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Hey, he'll be a knight.
He will be a knight he wants to. He says some funnier says I'm
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Trump sexual. Do you think that might be an insult? Sure.
Thanks. So now we have a little grouping of eight that eight
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I got I got Christina coming in. So I can't come.
That's okay. Yeah, we're just did the other promo.
Yeah, but I haven't seen you in three years.
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Wow. That was going to South you need a drink or something?
Yeah, I haven't made it you need to drink a glycerin. You know
what the problem is? I ran out of my water an hour ago and I
had you haven't had a clip long enough for me to run to the
kitchen and get one.
Oh, I've got some long clips then. But I also want to
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shield all of your details. Indeed, okay. Ah, man. Oh, man.
Oh, man. Yeah. It's, I don't know how it happens. It just
happens.
So you and I both talked a little bit about this. We have
no clips about that girl told me Tommy Tommy. Tommy Lauren. Yeah,
I like her. She goes on. Well, she's she's. Yeah,
I like her. I like her a lot. She was she's 24 she's got a
career ahead of her if she had the curry Devorah Consulting
Group, which you can find at Curry. divorce.com
Did you see that? Yeah, it was dynamite.
I'd forgotten about it. That's been around for a while I think.
Yeah. As you guys just paid off.
Yeah, phone hasn't stopped ringing
so she's 20 You You're the keeper ran into her once I think
and
when we're in New York, they she ran into her in the bathroom.
Yeah. And said Hey, you look a lot like Tommy. To which he said
Yes, I am.
Well, I was so she was kind of pleasant. Yes. And
I'm sorry. And you'll recall that we were sitting in in the
in this bar area and having coffee and and But Tina didn't
tell me that she that she had run into her in the bathroom
till after we
left. Yeah, she didn't want you to run in there. I don't care
what it says on the door.
LGBT rights all right. Yeah. What about tatami?
Well, she got lambasted by would I would say she had an unfair
interview. Trevor Noah Yeah. And he's like, What is the point of
do what kind of a host Are you unless you're doing one of those
shows. I mean, there are certain shows where you do and someone
does a lie or has done a lot of interviews I can say that I have
some some concept of how this works. If you're doing a comedy
show is you're not going to you're not doing one of those
shows where you bring somebody in to set them up and then
skewer them now
well, you sent me the link to New York Times review of that
interview the New York Times what a horrible piece they
published. I mean they they apparently Trevor Noah came out
first before she was she was still in the dressing room
before the taping of the show and he said hey you know I want
to be respectful of God Tommy Lauren on and but you know just
pretend this like your racist Uncle is coming over for dinner
on Thanksgiving. What was that? What is that?
Yeah really ass.
But this New York Times article which probably link to in the
show notes
I have it in the show notes. I
do know it has it is this article is almost calling to
spread people go shoot the woman. Yeah. Did
you have it there you want to just read a piece looking at it.
Just about halfway through. I was just reading randomly is all
bad. Miss law aren't as frequently denied being racist?
Hey, you still shouldn't be still beating your wife.
Seriously, why what kind of offenses is she's frequently
denied being racist? In the interview with New York Times
last week, she condemned a fringe movement known as alt
right, which espouses white nationalism and anti semitism,
calling it disgusting. And she would never be an advocate, a
cheerleader or an apologist for the K K day or kk k or any other
group, unquote. This is dismissed with classic This is a
hit piece. It is, I mean, the structure of it as a head piece.
It's a lot of innuendo. Well, she never said she was you know,
you're this. I can just the structure, but people should
read this because, because for one thing, it's extremely long.
It prints out to three pages of small tiny.
John, why do you think the New York Times went to this degree
of writing about this? For all intents and purposes a YouTube
star? They mean, you know, a ball though I think she's on a
different level and doing different things but comparable
in you know, big view numbers, etc. Why why are they doing
those Odyssey? Are they worried about her? Trump's team
did not respond to requests for comment. What's he going to do
with Trump? Well, she said Miss Lauren says she was in a former
adviser to Mr. Trump's campaign on his use of social media
starting in August, and she appeared on the campaign's
behalf via Facebook live broadcasts in the final week
before the election, she has about 3.5 million followers,
it's threatening on Facebook and over 800,000, cumulatively on
Twitter and Instagram, when it doesn't count the way they put
it. She's open to opportunities to be on the blaze, including
anything that might involve Mr. Trump, Mr. Trump's team, this is
good. They say why she didn't you know, she would. She's
looking at work from she wants to work for Trump from the
sounds of the way they've set it up. But he says he wants to work
for Trump. And she doesn't say that, by the way, but that's a
way that you Oh, that's that's
like that's like calling me that wasn't a Trump sexual or
something.
A Trump sexual? Yeah. Now, the next graph and it's not just a
normal graph, it's a standalone. In other words,
you said graph? Oh, yes.
That's what your paragraphs are referred to as graphs.
Oh, I'm sorry. g r a f. What's the sitch with your graph?
No, that's not the reason you do. It is not the sitch about
anything. The there's things that you use in writing that are
purposely spelled screwy. And graph is one of them lead, which
means Yeah, as another was L E, D. And then there's a thing
called there's sometimes there's a second thing to the title. Why
why
I'm just out of curiosity, why is the words paragraph too much
for journalist?
The reason is you want to get used to using graph gra F,
because you might put it like you, you might be doing some
copy editing and you put an L with this change, you put in the
blue line, it should be here. And then you would make a little
mark and say new graph gra F. It's purposely misspelled
because then if if somebody takes actually writes it into
the copy, new rap, okay, I gotcha. It stands out, because
it's misspelled Gotcha. So it's to prevent stupid crap from
going into the copy like the word le d, as opposed to Lea D,
which would go in there and then you have the stupid word in
there. Gotcha. So that's why thanks. So you, okay, now, you
know, and that's the reason it's not from some cynical reason you
implied
Wait, another tip from the no agenda show.
It's another tip. People should know this. Every once in a while
somebody will write me a note, say I think in your first graph,
and they spell it that way, gra F, either in the member of the
reader in the industry,
as a member of the Academy. That's right. I love your work,
man.
So here, they come out again, she says you opened opportunity
to Trump then they do a stand alone graph. And it's a one
sentence is all by itself. Then you go to another graph. And
this one says Mr. Trump's team did not respond to a gret
request for a comment. What is that in there for
God just to just to connect her to Trump? Hello? No, it's
in there to show that they're not interested in her. She's a
low life sleazeball. Oh, well, there's that there is this was
put in there for a reason it wasn't in we tried to there's
now you can argue here's what the argue would be. Oh, my
editor wanted me to call Trump to verify that they're
interested in her that she never said they were interested in her
she said she was interested in them there's no reason to call
them right. No, of course not. But they did anyway or Yeah,
they did anyway, so they could just slammer. This is a hit
piece is one of the worst I've read and it's shameful who's the
rangerous It's dangerous, dangerous, almost calling to her
get Jonah angle Bromwich?
The hell's this? It was Who was the Jonah?
I don't know Jonah is but he's a me writes on the media and also
this piece is overwritten for one thing and but this is a hit
piece is uncalled for uncalled for and the only reason why is
because she's a right winger all heaven forbid we have any of
these people and expressing their opinions. Enough Enough
Enough. I
like her. I've she's grown. I like her. She's grown on me for
sure. Well, speaking of Trevor Noah sanctimoniously
sanctimonious? Yes, the sanctimoniously smug Trevor
Noah, who? I presume he's on an O one visa here in the United
States. He's from south. Yeah, so Oh, one is if you have
special talent. I'm sure he's not a citizen. So he may have a
green card at this point. But he probably has an O one. He's been
doing the show how long how many years, one year, two
years years now.
He's probably a resin he probably has a green card, but
his sanctimoniously smug explanation of what is wrong
with the electoral college is something we need to share. The
whole clip is much longer, but I took out just to give you a
little taste, just little taste, a little taste of what it's like
with Trev.
The holidays are right around the corner. And because Donald
Trump is going to be president Santa can't come to America
anymore, because he's a flying immigrant with a beard. It's so
hard. It's so hard to get used to the fact that Donald Trump
will be president, especially because he lost by two and a
half million votes.
You already gotta love how it starts off.
Yeah, with it. Yeah. And of course, those two and a half
million votes all come from California.
And by the way, Trevor Noah should be kissing Tommy Lerins
asked because he's finally on the map. He's finally on the
map. skewered roasted, slammed. Huge ratings on the show. So he
should be happy.
But then we got news rating. So
people tuned into the seer.
Yeah, yeah. It was like the thing was triple the ratings or
something was,
Wow, that's impactful. That That wasn't mentioned the New York
Times article that I can see. No, maybe I overlooked it. Yeah.
All right back to Mr. sanctimoniously smug about the
electoral college. And as we know, of course, Donald Trump
didn't actually win because he lost the election.
It's still hard. It's still hard to get used to the fact that
Donald Trump would be president, especially because he lost by
two and a half million votes. But then he won the Electoral
College, which is all that matters. It's almost like being
in a relationship. You know how in relationships, quality time
matters more than the quantity of time, but you'll get into
fights. Like why are you so angry? I hung out with you all
weekend. She'd be like, Yeah, but you spent hours sleeping
like it was night. And then all of a sudden, that doesn't count.
And if you'd like me, you probably thought that on
election day, Americans were going to the polls to elect the
presidents. But if you didn't vote, your vote didn't go to
Clinton, or Trump, or the best third party candidate out there.
Harambee, he may be dead, my friends, but at least he knows
where Aleppo is. When people voted, they were actually voting
for electors, who are basically a bunch of locally appointed
representatives who then vote on your behalf, which again, makes
no sense to me. Do you understand how weird that is?
That's like going to a deli. But for some reason, you can't order
for yourself. You're just there the council like hey, can I have
a sandwich? And then there's some guy who's like, whoa, whoa,
whoa, I got this. Hey, can you have a sandwich?
So that means it's like going to a restaurant sitting down and
and telling the waiter what you want to get.
Yes. His reasoning is flawed. I just find it very interesting
that he's excoriating our system. And but with really dumb
arguments, hey, can
you have a sandwich? It's a bizarre bizarre twist on already
bizarre system. Because there are two ways to pick up
presidents. There's giving it to the person with the most votes,
commonly known as democracy,
which we don't have. We are a federal republic.
And then there's how America does it. Now if that sounded
confusing, that's because it is. The person with more votes
should wait, wait, hold
on a second. That sounded confused. I'm
sorry. I cut out a whole bunch of okay. Yeah, I'm sorry. It
sounded more apparent or less apparent when I put it together.
He put a bunch of clips together people saying, well, that
shouldn't happen in a democracy, but I was just but I'm not sure.
I want to shorten the clip. Yeah, democracy. Yeah.
Is the person with more votes should win. This is a weird
system because no other country decides elections this way. It
Even with in America, you understand that you don't elect
mayors like this in America. You don't elect governors like this.
You don't even elect idols like this. The presidency is the only
office where for some reason you don't trust the popular votes.
And the by the way is not about Trump. You know, the system is
broken because the person with more votes last in two of the
last five elections, that's 40% 40% If a plumber told me
that every time I flushed my toilets, there'd be a 40% chance
would spray back at me. I'd be like, maybe I need a new
toilets. But America's like I've had this toilet for 200 years
I'll be fine. I'll be fine.
I you know this by the way. I'm not offended by it, but it's
racist. What he's doing here. He's doing a white man is that
we're doing a white man who flushes the toilet and shit
sprays in your face. Is that is that is that the joke? Trevor?
Noah? Seriously? Is that how that how low you have to go and
audience you're hysterically laughing about this.
But America's like I've had this toilet for 200 years. I'll be
fine. I'll be fine. Ah, that was horrible. All right, next
election.
And he just goes on. So comparing the electoral college
to a shit spewing toilet. Thanks.
What arrogance?
Just total douche. Unbelievable. Um, oh, sanctimoniously smug,
just when you thought they couldn't come up with more ways
to make Donald Trump sound like an a hole? And unprepared I
mean, he's not prepared. We know this job. I mean, this is fact
right? In a post fact world we know the fact is the fact of the
matter at the end of the day. Thank you Jake. Right That fact
is it Fact Check, check file do fact check check check true
check through at the end of the day, you know, he doesn't want
security briefings and give a crap and listen to anybody and
this is going to ruin the whole inauguration According to Chris
Matthews of MSNBC you know
Ted speaking show business you know, it used to be when guys go
to like the press they were all guys still are I guess. They
used to practice dancing because the inaugural event the balls,
you have to go to all the balls five or seven or whatever. You
have to dance in front of everybody. And it's always hard
even at a wedding. Especially the wedding at the dance in
front of a bunch of people and I'm my generation grew up with
basically, you go get a drink or two before you go dancing. You
don't exactly learn to dance. Now here you got Donald Trump
who I don't know if he can dance or not. Certainly, the last two
presidents could web command to do this sort of idiotic two
step. It was ridiculous. He pretended to dance. And I have
to say Barack Obama generally support humanity did something
like the frente I don't think that was even a dance. I don't
know what it was was another one. Just for the cameras.
Apologies for the audio. But you get the idea. And they went on
for four minutes, arguing whether he could answer not.
Hey, by the way.
It was a time killer. Point is a sexist.
It's sexist. Did Hillary know how to dance? Did Michelle know
how to dance?
It is sexist,
sexist, sexist.
Use me princess.
Yes. Sexist.
Texas pig.
Oh, a happy note came to me. You know we uh we rag on on the
candy Navy. And sometimes because you know, I haven't
feeling sometimes I think they're better than we are.
Oh, they always think that yeah,
police department in Canada has officially apologized to
Nickelback for threatening to make drunk drivers listen to
their songs.
That's I will clap for Canada on that one. That's great. For the
headphones on and crank up Nickelback, you're not gonna
win.
Alright, let's talk a little bit about some bigger stories. They
have gay people. Gay in Ghana. gay.
Gay in Chicago. Chicago. Yes, giant TOCOM. Which ago,
we talked a little bit about this. This is John Kerry. Lab.
Rafi is going to be part one. But we talked about them. They
did some sort of a deal. Supposedly it was on the ladder.
Like they had like some secret talks or something. They were
doing some
talks and they they agreed on a paper and it was submitted.
We're going to do this this way. And and somebody said, Well,
gee, this is kind of what the Russians wanted to do. And so we
ended up with this kind of a story that evolves from this.
And I reminds you, by the way, when you hear these, this clip,
it reminds me of the way Obama does business. If we remember,
I'm sorry. A couple of years ago, Obama did a deal with
Boehner when Boehner was running the Congress.
Yeah, this was the golf course deal.
It was one of these deals where they agreed on something it was
it had to do with a budget or something like that. If and
Boehner took it to his people because it was ready to go and
he got everyone to agree of something, and then Obama
reneged
this last thing, I think it's reneged.
You. It's not reneged, no. Well, he redneck
you're racist. No, I'm
not racist and reneged. That's racist, I guess. So Obama backed
out of the deal at the last minute it and embarrassed
Boehner? Yes, no. And Boehner. There's a whole frontline on
this, by the way, the entire frontline on this and Boehner
was bent out of shape and never would trust Obama again, because
it was filiation of some sort. I think that's what he does. And I
think this would happen here, Play Part One.
We the public are now left guessing what happened to the
proposal that Secretary Kerry put forward last week, which
according to the Russian Foreign Minister, Lavrov would ensure
the withdrawal of all militants from eastern Aleppo for Mr.
Lavrov said that proposal was in line with Russia's view of the
way to move forward that it would lead to the establishment
of normal life war torn city, as Secretary Kerry and the State
Department have not publicly commented on the proposal,
except to say that technical talks were coming up. These will
be technical meetings to follow
up on what we discussed today. But we will then see each other
again
next week at the OSP. Sorry to interrupt what do you think a
technical meeting is? They talk about JavaScript and Perl.
That's it by the use of nuts and bolts. You do? We're going to do
this many you're gonna do that matters. Details. Okay. So
there's a quick follow up.
This was last week this Tuesday, Foreign Minister Lavrov said the
US suddenly pulled its proposal.
Considering the negotiations on the leopards. They're like
something of a mystery novel. On December 2, John Kerry asked me
to support a particular document passed on to us by the
Americans. The document is in line with our stance. The next
day, we make a public announcement and suggest
arranging a meeting with the Americans yesterday, we suddenly
receive a message from them, saying they're not able to meet
tomorrow, because they've changed their minds. They
revoking the document, and now they have a new one, which seems
to bring everything back to square one, once again, buying
time for militants so they can replenish their supplies.
I went to ask the State Department what happened to the
talks and to this reported proposal here. The status of
those talks, why were the meetings as I understand the
meetings, certain meetings that were going to happen this week
were canceled. What happened? Sure.
I mean, we're just not getting into the details. And there were
the substance and we're just not at a point yet. Where we can say
that getting together to have these talks would be
constructive. When we get there, we'll do it. And I'm not trying
to be I'm not I'm not trying to, you know, be mysterious. I'm
just saying I'm not gonna get into the substance of our
diplomatic discussions.
Okay, nice. Unbelievable. By the way, I'm looking it up. Both
words are in play, are named in reneged.
They're both the same. They have the same meaning reneged and
reneged. Yep, I would say that we have to remove this word from
the Oh yeah, from the right. We can't be so running around
saying reneged about the black president racist.
Well, there you have it. I got the chat
room exploded because I didn't know that reneged was one
version of the word. That was funny.
But David thank you chat rooms and giving it to him calls me
out all right, so So this deal is like obviously couldn't carry
wrote it up. And it was all ready to go and so that guess
carries just a stooge doll does not denote this let's play the
second part. And we figured out it turns out to be Susan Rice
and and the UN and all these little
snowman disorders. ankle biters.
Yes. The power
department is tight lipped about the dynamics inside the
administration. I asked that spokesman Mark Toner to comment
on Foreign Minister Lavrov suggestion that they are quote
unquote apparently plenty of those who wanted to undermine
John Kerry's practical steps. He said the Mr. Toner refusal to
weigh in on that should be noted this Monday, the US pushed a
ceasefire resolution through the UN which Russia vetoed citing a
pending agreement between Foreign Minister Lavrov and
Secretary Kerry. One has to wonder what happened to that
agreement who did not agree with whom perhaps, inside the Obama
administration,
we asked the former CIA and State Department employee Larry
Johnson, why an agreement with Russia remains just out of
reach.
I have no doubt that Secretary Kerry, if he talked about it, I
think he was sincere in trying this. The problem he faces is
he's not doesn't really have the full cloud weight of President
Obama behind him. There are others in the Obama
administration, which have opposed that kind of approach
and see that as a sign of weakness. So I think again, it
just reflects the chaotic nature of Brock Obama's presidency. And
this goes to the point that, you know, Samantha Power is close
with Susan Rice, and close with Ben Rhodes. So they reflect sort
of one camp within the Obama administration, John Kerry
reflects another camp. There's also they have the strong
backing of my former organization would appear to CIA
in terms of wanting to continue to support the rebels. But the
unfortunate reality is that those rebels 10 By and large, to
be radical Islamist, very terrorists, that the entire war
on terror that started 15 years ago was supposed to defeat.
Right, I think they're making a huge mistake right now, from
what I understand. We are currently not resupplying the
rebels. And they're begging for stuff. You know, what's going to
happen is turkeys in there, and they're going to come in and
say, Hey, how about all this groovy gear and go shoot these
guys? You know, the Kurds?
Yes, it should be something
like that mistakes being made.
But I think also that if you're gonna go back, let's go back to
the early theory or thesis that ISIS and ISIL and dash or
whatever you want to call them advertising are really a
creation of the CIA, correct? And Mossad. And that's why and I
don't believe if that's true that Kerry was ever read in on
this.
Oh, okay. So he's just out there making deals and everyone's
laughing at him.
Yeah, and everyone back at back at home, you know, the Susan
Rice's and powers in the CIA itself, according to the FCA
guy, yeah, they go, geez, we got to stop this guy. He's screwing
things up. We have a master plan. That's the only thing that
could be. Yeah.
So anyway, we're
not doing a very good job right now. With all No, it's a mess.
It really is less than 10 minutes to go.
All right, okay. 10 minute warning, President Obama did his
I guess what will be his big final send off speech, the big
one, the big one with lots of echo on his voice. He asserted
some interesting claims,
we've launched a Global Engagement Center to empower
voices that are countering ISIL is a perversion of Islam. And
we're working closely with Muslim majority partners from
the Gulf to Southeast Asia. This is your work. We should take
great pride in the progress that we've made over the last eight
years. That's the bottom line. No foreign terrorist
organization has successfully planned and executed an attack
on our homeland. factcheck false. Hello. What?
What was what
he says in the past? Yeah,
but back that I played again. And he has been talking about
the wait. So he said, denying Pearl Harbor no past eight
years,
John, during his present Oh, in the past eight this is this is
his legacy tour.
Okay, so the past eight, or during his watch, nothing's
happening. So in other words, he's little incidents that took
place in Times Square and Santa Barbara and the crazy stuff that
went down in Texas, and that was just the widows are lone wolves.
I don't understand how he can assert this claim.
Well, let's play it again.
We should take great pride in the progress that we've made
over the last eight years. That's the bottom line. No
foreign terrorist organization has successfully planned and
executed an attack on our homeland. Thanks, Obama.
I think that's that's you. I don't think you can claim that
honestly.
But you get the Orlando shooting you have? I mean, you I think
you can claim it. Well, maybe
if you say because he says foreign I guess but I don't
know. Yeah, and these guys are just low. I'm sure he's got it
all locked up. Legally. There was one other thing was
legally it's not an illegal thing to say. Nope. Well, you
know,
you know what I mean? question came up at the White House
spokes whole press briefing, and I have found out that indeed,
you can set up audacity for Josh earner's. Specifically, what you
want to do is set the values to 0.3 seconds of silence. And then
you want it to set at around 40 DB And that way, you will
automatically strip out every, every long silence that guy
leaves in his, whenever he's answering a question because
this clip was six minutes long. I'm not kidding it down to a
minute and a half including the question.
The President yesterday in his remarks, talked about a long
time ago, that a prison hundreds of millions being spent to keep
59 Guys their flattener national conscience. But he stopped short
of saying that he's actually going to shut the place down for
a few weeks was this and final, you know, sort of coming to
terms the fact that the prison is going to stay open after he
leaves office?
Well, listen, we have been deeply dismayed at the obstacles
that Congress has erected to
prisons great sounds like a robot. Now if you just cut out
all those silences, he's like a robot vent
progress on this significant national security priority.
Democratic and Republican national security experts
strongly support the President's position, that closing the
president, Guantanamo Bay would save taxpayer dollars and make
the country safer. A variety of military leaders have reached
that conclusion. Even President George W. Bush, who has
different views on foreign policy than President Obama,
well,
I won't keep it going on. But he of course, did not just address
the elephant in the room, which is this,
I will close Guantanamo. I will restore habeas corpus, you can
take that to the bank,
boom. He must be so it couldn't just do that by executive order.
He keeps blaming Republicans. He could do it probably could. But
he keeps blaming Republicans.
Sure he is because he doesn't want to close the base. Somebody
put a gun to his head.
Okay, well, there you go. Hey, are you ready? I have a whole
bunch of Obamacare stuff which I'm going to move over to
Sunday. Okay, I have a little mini report, which is quite
telling and funny. And the only other thing we should do one or
two more clips. I have a Jill Stein talking about hacking of
the voting machines.
Now let's talk about the Pentagon report. I think that's
more interesting than listen to her wine.
Oh, I feel the Pentagon. You mean the? Well, I have a leading
clip for that actually. Okay. Here is the leading clip
Pentagon covering up some wasteful spending. The
Washington Post reporting a Defense Department study issued
in January of 2015 identified a clear path to say $125 billion
over five years. But the Pentagon buries the findings
because of worries the report would give Congress an excuse to
slash defense spending. The report called on streamlining
the bureaucracy through early retirements or cutting down on
using contractors and making better use of information
technology. It revealed the Pentagon was spending a quarter
of its $580 billion budget on overhead and operations.
That's the shallow
report of the day.
To backgrounder,
it's not a bad one because it leads into this discussion which
I clipped deeper into the discussion past the backgrounder
on the PBS NewsHour, and I thought was quite interesting.
Okay, is this Pentagon report one? One,
I gather, there wasn't a great deal of cooperation across the
board. But they did come back with a report and what did it
find?
Well, what they found was pretty striking. This is kind of hard,
I think, for most folks understand, but the Pentagon
actually up till then had no idea how many contractors
actually worked for it. So they were trying to figure out how
many people work in its business operations. And they found that
more than 1 million people worked in these core business
operations, like you said, health care management, human
resources, property management, things that any organization
needs. But you know, even for the Pentagon, 1 million is a lot
of people these are, you know, essentially desk jobs. And that
compares to only 1.3 million active duty troops. So the back
end of the Pentagon was almost as big as you know, the tip of
the spear so to speak.
So Secretary Work number two man at the Pentagon, when he and
others saw this report, what did they do?
Well, they had touted this and advancing this was going to be
really important and that they had asked these private sector
executives to help them make sure that the report didn't
gather dust, and that they would, you know, pass all the or
adopt these recommendations. But when the numbers came back much
bigger than they thought. And the recommendation was that they
could save 125 billion over five years. You know, effectively,
they buried and killed the study the the data that had been
collected internally for the first time to pinpoint how many
people worked in these jobs. It was kept secret. It's still
classified and confidential. We worked hard for months to get
our hands on it. We were unable to and I was working with Bob
Woodward, my colleague, you're pretty good at that stuff. To
this day. They've kept that data confidential
when when and if appropriate. I have an interesting C span clip
of General John Keane about the Pentagon issue so you just let
me know if I
well you can play it right after this part two, which is I want
to mention this that we have to remember the Pentagon has never
been audited. Nope. They keep making them. They keep saying
oh, you know, we can't do it because the cool wall doesn't
work with the, with this report, gathering the RPG, whatever the
thing is, other crazy programs are ever the old gear, we have
to run all new computers. I mean, the whole thing is
bullcrap. I mean, you can you can audit section by section and
and and September 10 2001, Donald Rumsfeld at a press
conference, offhandedly said, yeah, there's $2 trillion
missing from the books. Yeah,
this thing is a is a pentagon is a scam.
Yeah. Yes. All right, report
to yet too.
But the and you right, the reason it seemed that they
wanted this buried, was it they were afraid that if they if this
information came out that Congress would not appropriate
what he and others thought the Pentagon needed to get in terms
of future appropriations?
That's right. There is a political calculation, they were
worried that members of Congress would say, look, you've been
asking us for more money. You've been saying the troops need more
money, you need more funds for ships and tanks and airplanes.
But look, your own report your own data, show that you could
save $125 billion? Why are you asking us for more? So they were
worried Congress would cut the budget, so to giving them more.
So you know, that's when they decided this was not something
they wanted to act on? And that they wanted to keep it quiet?
So Craig Whitlock what's the fallout from this today? What
how's the Pentagon dealing with this disclosure?
Well, I think the Pentagon is, you know, it's very
uncomfortable for them. They don't dispute the numbers here.
They don't dispute that there's a million people working in
their back office jobs. They don't dispute that this study
found they could save that much money. They do say it would take
more time that maybe it wasn't practical to do this so quickly.
But what they're feeling today is some pressure from Congress,
members of Congress, members of the Armed Services committees
are saying, at minimum, the Pentagon owes it to the American
public to release this data showing how all this money could
be saved. And I think the Pentagon is concerned, they want
to see how President elect Trump reacts. Here's a guy who
campaigned on a platform to for a major military buildup, and he
said he would pay for it by cutting waste and abuse in the
military budget.
Oh, I then I don't want to play my clip until you play your
third one. I think that fits perfectly.
Well. My third one is about the Boeing 747. I do want to build
right,
which is why it leads right beautifully out of this
other than just play clips tree right
now speaking of the president elect and speaking of pentagon
spending separately from all this, the President Elect today
tweeted and then talk to the press. And we showed this just a
moment ago, that he's upset about how much he says it's
going to the Boeing era, the Boeing company is going to be
charging to build two new Air Force ones they we know there
are two of these airplanes that carry the president around. What
do we know for a fact from Boeing that that's how much
these planes are now supposed to cost?
Well, you know, he's actually pretty close on that. Donald
Trump when he says 4 billion now that's over the the whole
program. That's the cost of developing and designing these
airplanes, and to build and to buy them. Boeing doesn't have
all those contracts yet, but it really is the inside track. It's
the only company the Pentagon has been dealing with to work on
this. But over the next several years, the Pentagon has
projected or set aside $3.9 billion for these two airplanes,
that one reason it costs so much is that these aren't just Boeing
747 passenger planes, they have to be equipped as essentially an
airborne command center for the Commander in Chief, he has to be
able to issue orders in case of nuclear war, it has to have anti
missile defenses, electromagnetic defenses. So
these are pretty fancy, essentially war planes and
command centers. That said, you know, President elect Trump is
saying Do we need to be spending that much on them?
And very quickly, Craig Whitlock is it believed that Boeing will
now hold the cost down as a result of the president elects
comments.
Well, I think it's fair to say he's making a lot of people at
Boeing in the Air Force squirm a bit now they're going you know,
they've already had some scrutiny from Congress on this
program, but they know now there's going to be a new
commander in chief who symbolically one of the first
things he's done to point out alleged Pentagon waste is
pointed this program. So you know, I think they're gonna go
back to the drawing board and they're gonna have to justify By
the projections
Donald Trump is one smart mofo. Boy, I tell you so smart. This
is, you know, here's the reaction I get around me. Well,
yeah, yeah, screw that. Yeah, save our tax dollars. Well,
that's exhibit planes
are pretty pricey. I mean, a Boeing 747, which is overpriced
at about 325 to $350 million, or 350 is about the number for
pass. So far, adding, you're adding over a billion dollars a
billion and a half dollar LLC is going to be 4 billion. So it's a
bit yeah, at least a billion and a half dollars. ovary. Right.
I think I think 2 billion, considering there's two of them,
and all that 2 billion is probably right. But that's not
what this is about. That's not isn't good. No,
I understand that. But I'm just saying that it's so obvious that
you can make these comments about this $4 billion deal?
Well, you know, it's like it wouldn't be 4 billion Anyway,
before eight,
but here was he was the real message that Trump sent with
this. He said, If it's too expensive, they don't want to
lower the numbers, we'll just make do with what we have very
important message. And that that was his intent, hey, you know,
we're going to be frugal, we're not going to, you know, we'll
just say this plane is fine. You know, I kick tires, it's okay.
Very smart move. Because, you know, people aren't watching the
news anymore. And they're certainly not watching C span,
if you want to hear the vastness of the Pentagon, here is an ad
he was brought in for a reason. He's a former he's retired Chief
of Staff, General John Keane. And he's brought in for a
reason, I don't know who brought him into this particular. And
it's the Armed Services Committee does particular
hearing, but here's what he had to say
about the deal, the business side of the house. Certainly,
we're the best fighting force in the world. We're frustrated that
we're absolutely third rate at running the business like
functions of DOD, because we're not good at it. We don't know
enough to be good at it. We're managing huge real estate
portfolios, we're managing huge lodging capabilities, were one
of the biggest motel owners in the United States. We're
managing the largest healthcare enterprise in the world. The
amount of maintenance that we're doing from a pistol to an
aircraft carrier is staggering. Those are all business
functions, business functions. They're all non core functions.
And we're also managing new product design and new product
development using business terms. And we, we don't do well
at this. And there's a ton of money involved in it. We got to
get after that money, and we've got to do better at it. And I
think we should bring in as the number two guy in the Department
of Defense, a CEO from a fortune 500 company last five years.
That's done a major tournament of a large organization. We need
business people to help us do this. We need a CFO, not the
comptroller in DOD.
Hey, go bringing a CFO I think that's absolutely correct. he
nails it. Yeah, I he just I've heard his name, but I have no
idea what
what his deal is. But I like that. All right. Keep track of
him.
I do want to say I hit the 10 minute warning on time and we
still went over so don't yell at me now, all right, everybody
grew malicious. Just remember when the apocalypse hits hands
are gonna say the world right? That's all you got to remember.
Oh, John cloud. Lovely. Looking forward to Sunday. Anything I
should be watching and we just good warriors.
Okay, we'll do that.
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