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Adam curry, John C. Dvorak.
And it's Thursday January 5 2017. This is your award
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Tejas in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry
and from Northern Silicon Valley where they're dragging garbage
cans all over the place at am John C. Dvorak scale.
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creates space. Great space is
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could be rich. You could be rich publishing your own stories.
That's right. You could win. Hmm. So I heard you on the
recorder.
When was Was this on some other show?
Yeah, you were doing stuff in the intro, man we're talking
about
yes, of course. You told me to.
Yes, I did. Have you practice at all on your recorder John?
I don't know. I do not practice recorder. I am a natural. Well,
so let's play by ear.
Oh, yeah, I can tell it's great. I got my recorder yesterday.
Yeah, I have a Yamaha halte alto
alto got a Yamaha. I did, man. Well, you went all out. Yeah,
well, here's what happened. I told you that if I get the thing
in my hand, I bet you I can play the song I learned 37 years ago.
You didn't bet me? No. I said I think I said a bit. Yeah, I can
do that. Hold on.
Okay, here we go. Here we go. Ladies and gentlemen, to show us
stop for the purposes of a formal presentation of a song on
the recorder by Adam curry.
I think it shouldn't be any little reverb Allah.
You gotta juice it up with your machine. You can't
you gotta river Oh my.
Almost there. So I pull the thing out of the box. I do that
pretty much the way I just did it. And you know what Tina says?
Oh, geez. Now I'm living with John C. Dvorak. Great.
So says how much respect she has for your play. My
playing is clearly that I mean, I'm sorry. I think that's quite
amazing. That the muscle memory is there after 37 years and I
know what your problem is. You're blowing too hard, man.
No, no, no, no, like breathe into it. No, no, just breathe.
Just breathe. Just breathe. No. Okay, nevermind. I'll work with
you after
the show. And I'll tell you something. I'm not blowing too
hard. It's this particular fine instrument was made out of
Bakelite called the The brand is first note.
The chatroom had the best remark. said no man ever. What?
Well, when I said don't blow so hard. The chatroom said said no
man ever. Oh, you have to have sex to understand the joke.
Alrighty, good. Okay, good. Okay, that's
a joke. Yes,
yes. You can put it down. That's fine. All right. In the morning,
everybody. Today is the fifth day of the year of our Lord 2017
This morning all morning long. We have very very in depth.
hearings about the Russian hacks everybody's up on the Hill
talking kind of saying nothing. Did you see any of it this
morning? No. Okay. Clapper is opening statement. Just a little
bit of that he is the Director of National Intelligence. So
yeah, here we go. We
also see cyber threats challenging public trust and
confidence and information, sir versus in institutions. Russia
has clearly assumed an even more aggressive cyber posture by
increasing cyber espionage operations.
I love cyber posture. I always write that one down actually
cyber like
it's to go and punch cyber
been, well, they it's their posture, it's how they chip up
you're
leaking data stolen from these operations, and targeting
critical infrastructure systems. China continues to succeed in
conducting cyber espionage against the US government, our
allies, and US companies. intelligence community and
security experts, however, have observed some reduction in cyber
activity from China against US companies since the bilateral,
September 2015 commitment to refrain from espionage for
commercial gain. Iran and North Korea continue to improve their
capabilities to launch disruptive or destructive cyber
attacks to support their political objectives. non state
actors, notably terrorist groups, most especially
including ISIL also continue to use the internet to organize
recruit, spread propaganda, raise funds, collect
intelligence, inspire action by disciples, and coordinate
operations. So in this regard, I want to foot stomp a few points
that I've made here,
like for footstep, he's gonna foot stomp a few points.
No, he did. That's dumb. Why would you say that? He's gonna
foot stomp. Is that what he said? Yeah,
I think so. This isn't that I again, that was an interesting
thing there.
operations. So in this regard, I'm gonna foot stomp a few
points.
I'll just kick you in the head, hey, I want to kick you in the
head. So you realize this? Is it footstone? Like, Bob,
one of the things in this show that you're gonna get is that
I'm starting to notice stuff like this. And other words,
these new phrases that kind of code. Yep, that are thrown into
the mix. I got a real beauty later.
I can't wait regard I want to foot stomp a few points that
I've made here. Before. rapidly advancing commercial encryption
capabilities have had profound effects on our ability to detect
terrorist and our activities. We need to strengthen the
partnership between government and industry and find my
favorite, the intelligence community and law enforcement
both to operate as well as to continue to respect the rights
to privacy DOJ, yeah.
Hey, if you can't even get the DNC to cooperate with you,
you're not going to get industry to cooperate with
cyber operations can also be a means to change, manipulate or
falsify electronic data or information to compromise. Its
integrity. So I
wish I don't think we have a single instance or example of
not that I know of, No, it hasn't been one sided.
I mean, they tried that with the DNC hacked, ah, this is you
know, they changed her shirt, it might have changed, it couldn't
have just I don't, that may not be the real deal
data or information to compromise its integrity.
Cyberspace can be an echo chamber, in which information
ideas or beliefs, true or false, get amplified or reinforced
through constant repetition? Oh, all these types of cyber
operations have the power to chip away at public trust and
confidence in our information, services and institutions.
Quite a statement. I say, I think quite a statement. Oh, I
can chip away at the public trust. Okay. That was it. Now I
will have a now I there was a question and this is about the
impact of fake news and
fake news. Can you talk a lot of fake news this week? From the
mainstream media?
Of course, that's where it originates.
Can you talk a little bit about the activities of the Russian
government's English language propaganda outlets are T Sputnik
as well as the fake news activity we saw as well as the
social media and how those paint a complete picture. That is
supplemental to what we saw with the with the hacking in this
case.
Appreciate your asking, raising.
What was that question?
While he's talking about the influence that the Russian fake
news propaganda media has.
Okay, okay. That's what you say.
You're asking, raising that because while there has been a
lot of focus on the hacking, this was actually part of a
multifaceted campaign that the Russians mounted and RT which is
heavily supported by funded by the Russian the Russian
government was very, very active in promoting a particular line
point of view disparaging our, our system, our alleged
hypocrisy about human rights et cetera et cetera whatever et
cetera
you sound like me with Tourette's man crack they could
fish
or they could find in our fissures are tapestry if you
will. Yeah tapestry
fissures in our tapestry. Wow another one I got to write down
no mashers
in our tapestry that was that's what the guys obviously been to
the doctor, he has hemorrhoids. And these these terms have kind
of stuck in his brain
is that fishing with pH? Or was that with Al
fishers? Fishers? FYI. SSU? Are i Yes, I think something like
that. Oh, Fisher is a little bit of a problem that you have with
with hemorrhoids. He's got hemorrhoids, this guy Oh,
find in our in our tapestry, if you will, they would exploit it.
And so tapestry now codename for a whole I got a fissure in my
fissure in my tapestry. And I gotta tell you, I'm pissed it
would exploit it. And so all of these other modes, whether as
our to use of social media, fake news.
Fake news is a mode. Hey, John, could you switch the show to
fake news mode, please?
Okay, switching modes switching mode.
All right, we're now in fake news mode, everybody. Oops,
the X exercised all of those capabilities in addition to the
hacking. And of course, I think the totality of that, I think,
regardless of what the impact was, which we can't gauge just
the totality of that effort. Not only as DNI but as a citizen, I
think is a great concern.
In other words, hours and hours of useless drivel on the Hill is
typical was nothing there. I did get an email from our resident
Cisco CISL, which, of course is our cyber. What is the ISO
cyber,
cyber intelligence? Security?
Cyber Intelligence security officer? Yes. And he is a real
one. And he says, Today I set aside an hour my calendar to
read the NCCIC Jay AR, that's the joint assessment report. On
the DNC hack, I have access to a slightly more classified version
than civilian civilians get the TLP white? Well, I have access
to the TLP Amber, blue, the amber nudge. Now, he says that
he says is not the tip top, but it has a good deal more
information than fully unclassified. This additional
info includes detailed technical information about the hack. The
Hours set aside on my calendar turned out to be overkill. Since
the entire report consisted of four pages of vague summaries,
you can see that in the unclassified version, that's
three pages of the same garbage, followed by 10 pages of
remediation techniques that any decent security person already
knows cover to cover the dozen or so yeah, the dozen or so I
was just saying this was in the amber report. So it wasn't any
different as well. There was some difference he had. There's
a spreadsheet that came along with the IP addresses of the
attackers. He says the thing is the IPs are from all over the
world. So and I have a copy of it. There's a few in the Eastern
Bloc shore, but this is full of so many holes, you could fly a
Dreamliner through it and still have space to spare. My team
came back and detected several of the si tu IPS hitting our own
network. He's in the US I presume. They also noticed a few
similarities in how FBI claims the Russians penetrated the DNC
and how several of these IPs have attempted entry into our
network. While our data is valuable, it is certainly not
something an elite Russian hacking squad would go after all
good lies have a nugget of truth. Do I think these IPs and
malware variants are made up? Of course not. But they are
outdated, common IPs and techniques, and one of the most
powerful hacking squads in the world would certainly have
better tricks up their sleeve. And then of course, he goes into
the malware, which is you know, what was detected was the
outdated, outdated version of some Ukrainian stuff, which I
think you can actually buy on the open market. Julian Assange
mentioned this to Sean Hannity in his big interview, which
proves nothing other than Assange apparently still alive,
nothing in that report that says that any information was given
to us nothing. What they have is what they call indicators. So, a
way to recognize if these tools, these alleged Russian tools have
been used on your system, okay. So, in response to that, some
engineer at one of the US electricity companies found this
signature on one of their laptops. Okay, so then this was
analyzed by a wide range of us. Computer security experts. I've
read those reports in detail. And it's discovered, this is a
commercially available tool produced by Ukraine. So it's
straight straight out of the bat. We either interesting he
says instead of straight off the bat, which is what we would say
he says straight out of the bat, is that a laugh? No bad. He says
bad to say out of the bat. Yeah. I think isn't the saying
straight off the bat, or right all right off right off right
off the bat. And is that a baseball term? Is that where
that comes from?
I would guess that
we either have a deliberate attempt to mislead or thoroughly
incompetent work straight out of the bat. Straight out
of the bat. play this clip, play this clip. This is the lack of
proof clip. This is more Russian propaganda from Artie. But this
seems to be true
FBI never looked at the Democratic National Committee's
hacked computer servers and yet still accuses Russia of being
behind the attack. Wow. That's according to an article
published online by Buzzfeed News. The DNC
the bastion of news,
apparently nowadays,
online by Buzzfeed News. The DNC is Deputy communications
director Eric Walker reportedly told the online publication that
while they met with representatives from the FBI on
a number of occasions, the intelligence agency never
requested access to their computer servers, the
centerpiece of the investigation. One US official
told the site that no government entity has run independent
forensic analysis of the DNC systems. The FBI instead
reportedly chose to outsource the task to a third party, the
company right in place of conducting its own analysis.
Now, the most recent report released by the FBI again points
the finger at Russia for having hacked the DNC, a White House
spokesperson who was questioned on Wednesday on the lack of
proof presented in the document.
I wonder what the what the security community thinks of
CrowdStrike? Because, you know, these are the guys with a bucket
of map.
Yeah, that map with all the little arrows back and forth.
Attacks going on? Yeah, I
mean, if we're looking at that saying, well, that's those
aren't attacks, I mean, yeah, could be port scanning, pinging
whatever. But it's not like, Oh, my goodness, are they make it?
They were gonna make it look like those are actual attacks,
like, you know, Garrison's of cyber troops running in
Ray McGovern was on, on on Archie, the ex CIA guy who's
really, you know, kind of a very,
where's he? What do you do again?
He's the guy. He's that old guy who comes out and says that
these guys are full of crap. And then he tells you how
he's clearly fishing in your stream them.
Exactly. And so he says that the NSA had continually calls this
a, a, the DNC emails. First of all, let's back up. And now on
the Hannity show, one of the things that came out of Assange
was that Podesta was the easiest to hack of the world. He used
the password passwords.
Do you think that's really true?
Well, because they have memos he memos within the PAP pile of
Podesta emails that Assange published talking about how he
forgot his password, and it was password, it was in there. And
then he apparently forgets all his passwords. You can't
remember anything. It's not really a computer guy. Oh, I
mean, I don't blame these, especially that age group.
There's an age group between the old farts and the end of
millennia, not Dan Mullen.
How old is how old is Podesta?
Like he wants you to look him up in the book and knowledgeable I
continue. Okay, but Podesta isn't that funny age group that
never warmed up to computers. And I think he just doesn't know
what he's doing. Which brings me back to a column I wrote in PC
Magazine some years ago, which I will reprise in a newsletter,
saying you should be licensed to use computers just like your
license to drive a car.
Yes, yes. 1949. So he's 6708.
Okay, I'm wrong. And I'm wrong. He's not in that age group. He's
just in the old farts age group. We never gotten into computers
to begin with. But anyway, McGovern says that the NSA keeps
referring to it as a leak. They never say hacked. And leaked
means as he describes a naive agree, leak means somebody took
a USB drive, put it up against the server, downloaded these
these emails and then took it over and get somehow Assange got
the USB drive, because the NSA would know if anything else was
going on. And in fact, there's one clip I have here from
another guy who was an ex. I got him this book. Yeah, the spook
commenting on NSA,
trend transparent attempt to deflect attention from the real
issues what we know about If the NSA and its systems capabilities
is that if it was, in fact, obtained by a Russian government
asset that the NSA would be able to know that very quickly and
immediately, it provided absolutely not a shred of
evidence that there was, in fact, a connection between the
government of Russia and join Assange as output right now,
who's the one who disseminated those emails?
I caught? Former CIA director James Woolsey, Woolsey Woolsey,
right? Was he a good guy? I don't really remember
Woolzies working as an adviser to Trump.
Ah, okay, that makes nothing but since then, okay. All right. I
didn't realize
wait, let me finish my little one thought here was McGovern.
If a guy took a USB drive and just stole the stuff from the
DNC, we can get we can just discard anything about the
Podesta emails, because it was apparently anyone can take some
kid that Assange himself for all you know, is that the guy who's
so obviously did this was the guy that was execution style,
shot in the back of their head and not rob Seth Washington, DC
who worked for the DNC, and nobody's talking about that guy
ever again. And then curiously, Assange just put up a a fund to
help him and it was his funeral expense. Yes. Yeah. I mean,
that's the guy. Yeah. Just that June two. Yes. Yeah. Yeah.
Anyway, you were saying, Yeah,
I'm just, I'm just thinking about some of the things I was
studying over the past few days. And you know, the Clinton body
count seems to be rising, strangely enough. you'd hope
they go away. But no,
let's listen to they're still worried about. I mean, even
though Trump says he's not going to do anything about the Clinton
Foundation. I believe that.
Oh, no, I want to talk about that a bit later. Definitely.
There's a lot of stuff going on. So here is a CNN with Cuomo, of
course. Who hosts they're on CNN. And Woolsey has, I think,
you know, we're spoiling. We were supposed to hear something
from Donald Trump, who was supposed to be Tuesday,
Wednesday. And then he said, Well, you know, look, the
intelligence agencies are not gonna come through. They're not
give me what they what I need. And of course, what the way the
reason they did that the way I see it, is they wanted to have
this hearing today to get the news cycle. And then Trump could
say whatever you want, because it'll just be well, Trump said
this, and here's all these experts. Here's your
intelligence community. And let's listen to what rules he
says.
I think it is more fair to you, Mr. Woolsey, because we've
discussed this before on New Day to say that you've never
expressed any doubt about whether or not Russia was
involved. You say that it's just a more complex picture, who was
involved, who else was involved? What trickery is involved? Why
they did it? That all those are separate considerations. But I
don't remember you, to my recollection, ever questioning
the intelligence reports that Russia was solved. Hear your
comment,
we intelligence reports, usually say something more than somehow
involved. But I want to go back to your initial use of the word
behind who is behind this. This is not an organized operation
that is hacking hacking into a target. It's, it's not like
taking a number at a bakery and standing in line to politely get
your dozen cookies you want to buy. It's more like a bunch of
jackals at the carcass of an antelope. Is it Russian?
Probably some is it. Some Chinese and Iranian maybe who
knows somebody may be getting more and more information about
it. We may find out more from Mr. Trump coming up today, we
may find out more from the people in the intelligence
community. But it shouldn't be portrayed as as one guilty
party. It's much more complicated than that.
If it is just a couple of follow up questions for you, the
intelligence community has not communicated it the way you just
did. They don't say it and we think it's Russia. And so so so
when clapper came out in early October with his assessment of
this, he included nobody else he talked about Russia and to what
the President Elect may or may not say as you know, it is
reported that he was going to come out with what he knows.
What can he know that the intelligence communities don't
know. We do know that there's a mixed signal from his own team
about whether or not he's gotten any intel reports about the
hacking specifically. But what could he know that the
intelligence agencies do not?
Well, you could have people talking to him from within the
system. I've had a couple talk to me. And when something like
this drags on for a substantial period of time, people in the
system sometimes will will call you and so I Think the
possibilities there's more than one country involved is really
there and I don't think people ought to say they know for sure
that there's only one I don't think they're likely to be
proven correct.
There you go. So it's not just one that just gonna make it very
confusing.
The whole thing is confusing and I as far as I'm concerned, it's
still the guy that's dead. Yeah. Is took a thumb drive, stuck it
in, grabbed all that stuff. Walked out with it. You got
caught. Got shot. Yeah. Yeah. Here's the NBC. Here's the NBC.
You know, NBC is trying to keep the story alive. I think what's
going to happen?
So is CBS by the way, I got a CBS clip, it'll show that I am.
What is
the NBC rundown, it's tried this is transition backroom and let
me just make my prediction, which is that they they're going
to try to keep this thing boosted to get to give Trump a
lot of, you know, like, just to instill the public with this,
this notion to the to us it's kind of stuck in there. And then
when Trump transition team actually takes over and they put
a new guys ahead of Director of National Intelligence, get rid
of Clapper, who is a liar? Yes. And and then they're gonna come
and say this was all bogus, and they're gonna find this gonna
turn out no one's gonna pay any attention to that and the news
isn't gonna cover it. Sounds about right.
Let's listen to NBC know about the cyber attacks during the US
election. This as his advisors continued to question us
intelligence about Russia's involvement and business.
Kristen Welker has details.
Tonight, new fallout after that cryptic New Year's Eve statement
by President Elect Donald Trump, that he might have more
information to reveal about those hacking allegations
against Russia.
I also know things that other people don't know. And so they
cannot be sure of this situation. And I want them to be
here.
today. The President elects team pressed for details about what
Mr. Trump knows, and whether he'll make it public before his
midweek meeting with intelligence officials.
What does he know Shawn? Well, you know,
we'll wait till Tuesday or Wednesday. What we're really
trying to figure out is, how certain are they have the
intelligence number one and number two, how proportional is
the response to what happened
on Sunday, a plane carrying 35 expelled Russian diplomats left
the United States part of President Obama's retaliation
against Russia after he says the country hacked the emails of
some top Democrats. All of it setting up a potential showdown
between Mr. Trump who has cast doubt on Russia's involvement
and Congress, including some members of his own party. It is
clear that rogue states from being shot intelligence agency
Hey,
by the way, McCain, you I was watching this body language
expert on YouTube. And the it's obviously it doesn't make any
sense to play this on the show because you really need to see
it. She is she did an analysis of McCain and he was doing a
wreath laying somewhere with Lindsey Graham. And she said
this guy in his own mind is acting like he was elected
president. And its end and her conclusion was it's possible he
knows that something's going to happen and he's going to be on
deck somehow I don't know how but he's acting way he's acting
like he's running the
whole show. They put him in charge.
Who the hell knows
intelligence agencies will
deluded
oh a but he's he's dangerous. This guy's
dangerous he's deluded what Lindsey Graham is is is should
be voted out and you know they have their new girl now. Oh,
who's this? Because they lost the other one they
lost the odds are now as they lose it now.
Was it a lost day? Because she lost the election because she
was a douchebag. So now their new girl because they have to
have a girl apparently, of course. Amy Klobuchar. Oh, I
don't know. Do I know her? You? Yes.
Anything bad? He's way worse than Kelly Ayotte.
Okay being the case.
President elect Trump he wishes the Russia issue would go away.
But Republican hawks on Capitol Hill like Senator John McCain,
they're gonna make sure
doesn't the President Elect is also drawing battle lines in
other areas, making his intentions clear at a New Year's
Eve party at his Florida Resort over the weekend.
On Wednesday, President Obama will head to Capitol Hill to
strategize with Democrats about ways to preserve Obamacare. And
earlier today he announced to deliver a farewell address in
Chicago next Tuesday. Kate Kristen Welker
following the transition, Chris,
okay. I have a CBS report similar. Only this report shows
that all the intelligence agencies agree with CBS who of
course is the broadcast arm of the Central Intelligence Agency
CBS
Broadcasting System is what it means. Yes, exactly. CBS News
has learned that over the last few days US officials have begun
investigating new and potentially successful cyber
intrusions, raising concerns that the Russian hacks might
have been more extensive than originally thought. And
government analysts are still investigating if Russian hackers
successfully breached Vermont's electrical grid, malicious code
found on YouTube still,
they're still talking about this even though it's been debunked
to you know, like a week ago,
malicious code found on utility company laptop has been traced
to what they call grisly step. A widespread cyber espionage
operation linked to Russia
is nonsense.
A widespread cyber espionage network linked to Russia,
widespread cyber espionage operation winning.
Well, I just want them to be sure, because it's a pretty
serious charge.
But President Elect Donald Trump continues to express doubt about
Russia's involvement. I know
a lot about hacking. And hacking is a very hard thing to prove.
So it could be somebody else. And I also know things that
other people don't know. And so they cannot be sure of the
situation.
Mr. Trump promised new information on Tuesday or
Wednesday. But Sean Spicer that Trump transition spokesman
seemed to walk that back.
Well, it's not a question of necessarily revealing. Remember,
the President Elect is privy to a lot of classified information
intelligence reports. He gets briefed by his national security
team on a daily basis.
But it is unclear where but
I thought he refused to have the briefing. Not possible.
But it is unclear where Mr. Trump or his national security
team is getting their intelligence reports. Jeff, all
US intelligence agencies are in agreement that the Russian
government with the blessing of Vladimir Putin orchestrated
aggressive cyber attacks prior to and during the US election.
Okay, well, we'll hold your feet to the fire on that one all
my favorite quote. I think it was from Obama. He was either
reiterating this all they all agree, he says and that's so
rare that they'd all agree. Yeah, that's the giveaway. They
never all agree exactly. And why they suddenly all agreeing on
this one thing, which is sketchy. Yeah. It makes it makes
zero cents. They these guys they just keep doing this. It's just
like, it's It's unbelievable to me
and in the Dutch newspaper yet. Yesterday. Big news that of the
900 IP addresses that are in that Amber report. 140 of them
were located in the Netherlands. I think bastard. I think we
should start sanctions against the Netherlands.
Get got the ambassador. That's right.
And put me in. God, I'd love to be ambassador. Oh my god.
Good ambassador.
I'll be fantastic ambassador to the EU to the United States in
in Amsterdam. Oh my god. partay.
Yes, what else would you do hard. Mostly the best job is the
ambassador to the Vatican.
How about the ambassador to Jamaica? Is what I'm thinking.
Well, that
would be that would really I think it Yeah, but you can get
shot down there. Yeah, it is kind of an ambassador is not
real popular.
You're right, you're right.
the Vatican's got the best wine.
Yeah. And does that mean you get to sample it as an ambassador? I
guess so.
That's all you do is have dinners Yeah.
The just in the in the end I know you have a couple I want to
transition to a bit of fake news. I was really really really
blown away by this tweet that Donald Trump sent about North
Korea it because I tuned in yesterday and watch everyone's
talking about oh my god. Oh, he's trying to do policy again.
Oh, he's very dangerous very dangerous. What
he's doing Oh dangerous. Those tweets are dangerous.
Very dangerous. Let's listen to a CNN had the report very short.
Just so you know what happened to North Korea
leader Kim Jong goons, New Year's Day message. He's almost
ready to launch an intercontinental ballistic
missile, an ICBM that someday could
hit the US
now. That is the entire statement. I'm not entirely sure
if that was an editorialized statement by saying
intercontinental intercontinental ballistic
missile that that could reach the USA. I don't know if that
was editorialized or if it was in the actual news release. But
for the past 48 hours or whenever Trump sent this, this
tweet out. All I hear is you can do foreign policy and 140
characters 140 characters. It's very, very it's the 140
Everybody's doing it now. And Everybody's doing Oh 140 Go over
to the BBC. Now remember what you just heard. Actually, I have
Omeo Trump's tweet was pretty much saying ain't gonna happen.
North Korea ICBMs toward the US not going to happen. That was
the treat. That was the tweet,
which isn't, which is the way I would look at it too. It's not
going to happen when they're going to do
well. But first of all, if they said that, and of course CNN
repeating it if they if the North Korea actually said, we're
going to fire off an AI a nuke ICBM that could potentially
reach the USA, for someone to say, oh, yeah, bitch not going
to happen is I kind of like that. But listen to how the BBC
framed it. Well, another
extraordinary episode here and insight, in fact, into the way
Donald Trump intends to deal with some major issues once he's
US president. He's just dismissed North Korea's latest
claim to be developing a missile capable of nuclear delivering a
nuclear strike against the US. He did it via Twitter. That's
what he tends to do, isn't it Mr. Trump highlighting a boast
in the North Korean leader Kim Jong Un's New Year's message,
that preparations for missile launch had reached the final
stage. His view on that very simple. It won't happen. We're
trying to work out quite what that means. Expressing doubts
perhaps about North Korea's nuclear capabilities. Maybe
suggesting preventive action not quite clear.
I mean, no.
I mean, this is insane. They're just trying to mind read now.
And what you're seeing is this anti Donald Trump tweeter thing
is fear. It is fear of the mainstream media who are being
caught out.
This is I think you may be right because there's been more talk
about him bypassing the mainstream media by just
directly communicating with the public via these tweets. And the
mainstream media. I think you're right is completely freaked out
about this because they're the gatekeepers. Yeah. So what he's
thinking and what he's doing, they're the gatekeepers that get
to tell you what's what. They're the gatekeepers, they get to
twist the truth to be honest about it. And they don't like
this idea because they can't twist anything all they can do
is like try to interpret in awkward ways like they you just
played well. What could he possibly mean by a won't happen?
Yeah, it could mean this it could mean that so they're
they're behind the eight ball here. I think it's It's well
deserved. The mainstream media has not served the public. It's
interesting how they seem to be John McCain's propaganda arm
too, by the way. Yeah,
it well, that can only be a money issue. I mean, McCain is
really the guy who's who's working all the military money,
and military money sponsors all news. One way or the other.
Certainly, then public a public? Well, yes, of course. Of course.
Just Oh, yeah. It will be interesting. Have you seen Obama
living in office yet? And this is continuing is outrageous.
This
is the thing that's so bothersome, it's like all this
is just talk and talk and talk and talk. And, you know, no
one's doing anything yet. They're not in office, although
I do know this is gonna be very, it's gonna be crappy time
because Chuck Schumer who is now and I've met him incredible
douchebag he was I met him and you're the Anthony wiener thing
when I
Yeah, no, Schumer is a horrible douchebag. He's not but
it's he's so arrogant. He just like, he looks down his nose at
you all the time. And he's saying, Oh, we're not going to
we're not going to help with any Supreme Court justices. We're
not going to. We're not going to get any of these. These
douchebags in, and I do want to say, of course, what you hear
everywhere is he Oh, he's supposed to drain the swamp.
He's got nothing but millionaires and billionaires
and everywhere in everywhere. I am actually skeptical of putting
together a business administration because I've seen
it. And it was it really didn't work out. Well. That's what
happened in the Netherlands. Now there was a difference is that
paying for Tyrone was assassinated two weeks before
his party one posthumously. And then all these guys didn't
really have a leader. And it was a it was a mess. It really was a
mess. And they only lasted like two years. And it just it was it
was crap. Everything was crap. So with Trump,
Trump's group is mostly military guys, it seems to me I don't see
them any business people.
Well, we've got the guy. The banker for sec, we've got Rex
for Rex Tillerson for
the bank, has always been run by the bankers. Well, of course, of
course. Tillerson is the only one
not a military guy and is a military guy.
collusion is the only way you can make an argument about but
if you think about American foreign policy being always
about oil, why not put an oil guy in there? That'd be,
I'm not against it. I'm just saying I am. I'm not convinced
the business cabinet is a short to work. That's all. I would
want it to I would want these, I would want the oil guy to go,
Well, I know how this bullcrap works. We're not going to do
this this way anymore. That will be fantastic. But who knows.
And I think that's what will happen, because, and I've said
this before, having worked both in the I've worked in the oil
refinery, and then I worked for the government that inspected
oil refineries. And I've said this before, because there's
always a conflict of interest. You used to work for something,
you know, and now you're working on the other side, you just got
to be on their side. That's not the way it works, right? It
works the way you described it. Generally speaking, it's like, I
know how this game works. You guys can pull this stunt with
me, right? Because this is what we used to do. That kind of
thing. That's what really take these jobs. Seriously. Before we
go on too far, I do want to have I have one long clip that I
really would like to play but still about the Russian thing.
Okay, good. Now this is I was thinking twice about because
it's better to watch this clip than to listen to it, but I
think it gets the idea by listening to it. You seen this?
This is Josh, Josh Earnest. When he's asked the question of what
proof do they have about the Russians? Yeah, I left the
pauses.
Oh, wow.
So this is a one minute clip. That is three minutes long.
takes him three minutes to get it out. I know. Okay,
I won't do this again. I promise. Okay, because I know
you've been taking the pauses out.
But can I can I play the recorder?
Question. Still, as far as the Russian hacks go, I know,
normally can't discuss, you know, sources and methods and
how you guys are getting intelligence?
I think I'll time them. I'll time every every policy, how
long it takes about that. Okay,
the time is each one and add them all together. Okay. Can you
at least
chat room? Could you please do that, for me
characterize the sort of intelligence that's coming in?
That proves that this was a Russian hack? Is it digital
fingerprints that you're tracing back to a computer and
we really got to stop with all of these terms is a digital
fingerprints. That's tiring it from coming from a journalist
who sounds like he has no idea what he's talking about
obsession. Is it human sourcing, that you're intercepting phone
calls and hearing Russians talk about this kind of thing? Where
where's the confidence?
Well, I'm obviously quite limited in what I can say from
here. But I think there are a couple of things that I can
point to that I think anything gets to the questions that
you've raised, it's essentially two. The first is the statement
that was issued by the intelligence community in
October of 2016, before the election, making clear that
Russia was interfering in our election represented the
consensus view of 17 different intelligence agencies. That's
not usually the way intelligence works. That kind of unanimity of
opinion, particularly when the stakes are so high. is notable.
The decision by the intelligence community not just to reach that
conclusion, but to make it public is notable. And I think
it reflects the depth of their confidence in that assessment.
But your question goes to what explains the depth of that
confidence? Why? I think the only thing that the thing,
I'm already at 31 seconds. Do you know that this cannot be
done on mainstream radio? This is like a violation of
everything that the commercial, dead air. Yeah, you could be
selling commercials in that air. Are you nuts?
Actually, that easily? You have a 32nd spot you could drop in
there because of this guy. He's looking at he's hemming and
hawing. He's got no tab on his thing is he can't answer the
question. He is not he never answers it. By the way. He just
got well, well, let's listen to his answers. His answers the
following. I'm gonna tell you that in advance his answers the
following, because that meant that joint statement that was
made by Homeland Security, the one that has the amber and the
yellow and the red and rather than white, because there were
solutions mentioned in there. In other words, don't get fished is
what the solution is right. Yeah. Right. Right. Right,
because that existed because that there was a solution in
there that and you can listen to this for yourself. It's at the
end, because that solution is is proves it was the Russians
Alright, Jerry is no logic to this
No. Chat Room was still the timing good. And I can
certainly say from here is that there was a release last week of
the joint Intel joint analysis report that was issued by the
Department of Homeland Security
with a disclaimer that said we're not we don't warrant any
of this is
true in the FBI. And included in that report or specific
including that report was specific technical advice to
you first year security students,
computer network operators, systems administrators across
the country and around the world about steps that they could take
to protect their networks from malicious Russian cyber
activity. I think that's an indication that there was a deep
technical analysis that was done and being able to put forward
that technical analysis so that people could protect themselves
from the Russians, I think reflects done that pretty
definitively ties this back to the Russians. The effect of that
information. Wait
a minute, wait a minute. That was great. Oh, that was this.
This back to
that got you gotta go back a minute. Oh, geez, guys, more of
the work that was done that pretty pretty definitively ties
this back to pretty definitively.
Oh, that's like 97%, I guess pretty definitively
the work that was done that pretty definitively ties this
back to the Russians. The other effect of releasing that
information means that Russia now has to go back to the
drawing board and change some of their tactics.
Oh, really?
What bullcrap really is, you know, this administration is
just lying, boldface, lying to the American public.
The problem I have is I know that there are 10s if not
hundreds of 1000s of dudes named Ben who are all in for Bernie
are all in for Hillary and hate Trump. And they see this, they
know, but I'm not seeing any any of the guys I know, on the bags,
or the grams, or the Twitter's saying this is bullcrap. None of
it. And that is I mean, that is I think, actually, if you're a
dude named Ben, which is our no agenda term for CES or network
admin, and you don't counteract that your credential should be
taken away. Take away your your Microsoft Exchange credentials,
whatever the hell yeah.
Yes, no, but I see the same thing because I'm hooked into
the I have the just the tweeters, of course, I have the
face bag by looking at the these people that are these. There's
groups of them there most of the especially the female sysops.
The female do,
they must they must be very conflicted right now.
They're very conflicted. But they won't say anything. They're
still Trump's a douchebag. I hate him. Yeah. It's
unbelievable.
Well, hey, we know what's going on. And we can read these
reports. Then, look, we've got our own cyber security officers.
And they're all saying this bullcrap. But now. Okay. Have
you noticed Obama has developed a tic under his his right eye?
He has. I have not noticed this, but it wouldn't surprise me.
Yeah, I've seen it before.
And I'm very sensitive to this stuff. Because of course, I have
words to read some I see stuff immediately. Mr. Tick. I have
Mr. Tick. That's right. Mr. TIG, thanks. Yeah, so he's nervous.
Or he's been he's under stress, or there's something going on
under stress. Yeah,
he knows he's lying must be
super stressed.
You know, and he's supposed to be the guy that was he was the
guy that was going to be the new Clinton Foundation. You know,
gold mine. And you know, once the Clintons got in office and
had to, like pass off some of their, their, their scam off to
somebody else, and he was gonna be the guy now that debt fell
apart. And now there's investigations that's gonna we
know. You mean this. They said there's not going to be any but
there's going to be investigations. Once Trump is in
office. I mean, if you remember that comment that one of them
said it was either Hillary or Podesta or somebody says if this
guy wins, we're all going to be hanging by a noose.
Well, let me get into this with you. And this is this is
clipless. There's a guy who I've been following for a couple
weeks now on the YouTubes named George Webb WB. Have you seen
any of his stuff? No, you got man. Okay. So he's, he's now
today. 73. Today, I think it'd be days 74 And the title of the
short videos 10 minutes though it's where is Erik Braverman?
And he does. This guy is an intelligence guy of this. I
can't find anything about him. So who the heck knows what's
going on with his background and information. But Erik Braverman
was the CEO of the Clinton Foundation. And he came to hear
us and he has done an excellent job of connecting a lot of these
people and the Podesta emails. If you recall, there was an
article that talked about how, you know, Chelsea Bell was
brought into the Clinton Foundation, her name was put on
the masthead. And she's it. And she starts to notice stuff. And
she starts asking questions, we read a number of those Podesta
emails because like, What the hell is she doing? Tell her to
shut up back off. And she brought in her former McKinsey
colleague, where she worked Erik Braverman to be the new CEO to
clean stuff up. And this guy quits abruptly, a couple months
before the election. And he has not been heard from since he's
supposed to teach. I think he teaches at Yale or somewhere but
he's not showing up for his course. No one knows where he
is. And when you look at so in this interview, he said, you
know, if you really want to find out what's going and he it
wasn't attributed to him, if you really want to find out what's
going on, you know, you got to follow the money. And then
there's this Podesta email where this article A sent back and
forth and then Podesta says, this is Erik Braverman so on the
radar, Erik Braverman is married to Neal Brown, and his gay guys.
Neal Brown, works for K K. R, which, of course, includes the
famous Kravitz as Goldberg Roberts. Yeah, the big boys. And
so when you look at timber, Sycamore, and operations here,
footprint, these are the code names for Libya. The there was a
whole system set up for Libya, which of course, pretty much
worked, where you, you go in, you get the rebels, you, you
make a deal with him to give them arms, you take away some
money, you know, then of course, you want to strengthen stuff up,
we get some NGOs doing crazy stuff for us and not a dictator,
you kill him. And then you deal with oil, concession rights,
everybody kind of wins. And also, in Qaddafi his case, there
was his wife had 20 billion in in a Swiss account, there was an
estimated 300 billion and other Swiss accounts. And then there
was no there was like a 10 billion in cash and gold and
stuff. So steal the money, steal the money, and the and but this
is done with KKR, who was inserted just before Hillary
Clinton left the State Department, because she had an
if you look at it, there's like the people who were approving
the arm sales, which ultimately wound up in the hands of rebels.
They're all insiders, including check that Jeremy bash, Jeremy
bash, former CIA guy, and I've always wondered, he used to be
married to Dana Bash. On CNN, I've always wondered why she was
there. Yeah. What's your background? Why are you
interesting? And then you see that, of course, we have all the
connections between the people married to presidents of news at
CNN and ABC, and just a million things going back and forth. And
the system was, you get the bribe or the promise of the
bribe to the Clinton Foundation, you approve the licenses for the
sale of the weapons, and the circle just keeps on going.
Round and round she goes but the money the way they were sending
that money back and this is where I think the investigation
will come is through the Canadian Giustra gi U S. T R A
Clinton found found a foundation something or others like a
subsidiary, and they would just send the juicer foundation would
send one big lump sum like $100 million a year from 1100 donors
who are secret. And unlike the United States and Canada, you
don't have to necessarily disclose who these people are.
But of course, you're going to see now that these will be big
state leaders, you know, all kinds of
all kinds of corrupt guys whose this has been set up to be a
foolproof system, right? You want to make a little extra
money here. You can make a couple mil right,
so what happened and this guy is really interesting. I've watched
it for almost six hours over the over the weekend.
I'm gonna be link in the show notes.
Oh, yeah, I've got tons of notes, tons of notes. Um, so the
the idea was to do the exact same thing in Syria. And of
course, we know that was for multiple pipelines, but
competing pipelines and of course, It failed. And what the
reason why it failed mainly is because the the stinger missiles
were being flown into Jordan, where they were training rebels.
And then the C 130s. With the stinger missiles. They were you
know, they were going over to I'm sorry, Benghazi, they were
going over to to Libya. And Chris Stevens makes a phone call
and says, Hey, man, this is messed up. This like C 130s.
With the with Stinger missiles coming in. Four days later, he's
dead. Alright, so there's a system which will and Jordan is
on deck. But the king of Morocco. And again, it's look at
the pipelines. There's a new pipeline, it's blew me away when
I found this. The new pipeline is one that goes from Nigeria,
to Morocco. Now, they tried to do this pipeline straight up
through Nazaire and through Algeria and all this stuff to
get to Morocco, but of course, as too painful. And the Nigerian
oil is arranged by a former mark, rich associate. I forget
his name, I'll get to in a second. And so now they're dogs,
which of course is the guy pardoned by Bill Clinton. Yes.
And
when you see your
national criminal right
with the lawyer who helped on that is what's this guy's name
again, hold on. He's now he's now in the in the Department of
Justice. Peter Caddick There you go. Peter Caddick, he he took
care of that for Mark rich, he is handling the emails within
the Justice Department, this guy is total stooge, total Insider,
and he of course, he went to college with Podesta. So all
these things get all neatly wrapped up. So Morocco, they've
got the Nigerian oil, which of course has all been stolen.
We've seen what's happened in a Nigeria Boko Haram, we follow
that there were hundreds of billions of dollars missing
already. But oh, no focus on the children who weren't gone, who
were gone, who gives a crap, we don't care if the back or not,
First Lady holds up a sign that fine. So the building's pipeline
around the coast up to Morocco, and then from Morocco goes into
Spain. And that will be a different way of and it's all
about the same thing, cutting off Russia's sales to Europe.
That's what it's all about. The reason why I think we're now
seeing different moves in Syria, and things coming down possibly,
is because of a new pipeline, the trans Anatolian natural gas
pipeline, which runs from Georgia through Turkey, Oops,
got a small problem there. And from Turkey into Bulgaria. So it
bypasses everybody again, another end around around
Russia. So the king of Morocco gave $28 million to the Clinton
Foundation, of course, and thanks for setting everything
up. And anyone who does this King of Jordan, king of Morocco,
just look at what happened with your predecessors. This seems to
be the system you know, get it all set up arm some rebels, you
know, boom, steal the money control everything hand off the
the the contracts, the drilling rights, the mineral rights
handed off to your buddies and Big Oil, etc. It's it's a very,
very slick system. Ukraine, no different. You know, again, it's
about stopping Russian gas getting into Europe, that's
successful to a degree. But again, who's in there, Hunter
Biden. Joe Biden's kid with a huge company that has oil
drilling rights, gas rights, transportation, right,
everything. And as I'm going through this, I realize that the
code words using these but because Podesta is an integral
integral part of this with Sid Blumenthal. And I don't even
know where to start explaining Sid Blumenthal, other than he is
the guy that actually hired the private army to be in Benghazi
and in Libya. I think that Well, first of all, if you have money,
you got to billions of dollars. Art is a great way to launder
money. And I you know, that's it's a known perfect way.
Because you know, you buying something, a piece of canvas or
whatever it is, and paying exorbitant amounts of money. So
you could do a lot with art. I'm thinking maybe all these codes
in their emails is about orange deals. Think about it. Now pizza
could be just code for an arms deal. Or hot dogs is Stinger
missiles. No one's looked at that from from that perspective.
No. And it would be perfect cover up to have everyone
focusing on kiddie porn and pedophilia.
Yeah, as great as it Big district made a major
distraction.
Ah ha ha ha. So I have a look at these links in the show notes.
There's tons and tons of stuff there. But I think that, you
know, whoever said that was absolutely right. If
investigation started, I believe this. This is an ongoing
investigation. In fact, as Snopes got to talk about Snopes,
here's Snopes we've fact check fact check fact check false
missing in action. This is from snopes.com We found no evidence
that Erik Braverman the former head of Clinton's Charitable
Foundation has gone missing. It is unproven, though. They didn't
say it's false, it's unproven. Since at last since least at
least October 2016, some social media users have been echoing
the belief that former Clinton Foundation CEO Erik Braverman is
missing or in peril, and he of course the head of the
foundation from 2013 until he resigned in 2015. rumors
regarding his whereabouts began swirling after a leaked document
published by WikiLeaks showed his name mentioned emails
between Clinton staffers who believed he was furtively
releasing information about the foundation's financial doings.
We found no evidence that Braverman is currently a missing
person, nor that he has gone into hiding, the only evidence
being proffered, proffered in support of this claim is the
fact that Braverman has not used his Twitter account since
October. But he has not shown up for a lot of so he's just he's
not laid out anywhere. Nor is Neil nor is the guy who they
tried to pin the the big end that began Benghazi, Stinger
missiles on the arms guy toric wood they tried to frame and
they if you recall, they dropped the lawsuit last minute, because
he was gonna say, you know, he was like, Screw this, I'm gonna
tell everyone's going on. So he's missing, or it's just not
around anymore. This is, this is the kind of stuff I'd like to
see the pizza gators focus on. This is something real. In
particular, we
might well this whole thing the way you describe it, and I'm not
doubting any of it. Because it makes nothing but sense to me.
It may account for the tick that Obama Yes. Oh, yeah, there you
go. He's got to be in on this to
everybody's in John, this is the problem, everybody. And then
the reason that that Trump put that oil guy in is Secretary of
State because maybe he because he must know something he must
know this is going on, you can unravel
the whole thing he could
somebody's gonna have to do I don't know how easy it would be
to do that. Because it's like those banking conspiracy. Well,
if
you got to watch this guy, I didn't send it to you purposely,
that I wanted to talk about it with your open mind and hear if
you had any, like immediate concerns about it. But when you
started watching what this guy is doing, and again, he's got to
be a spook. He I know. He's a citizen of Israel. So you know,
take everything that he says with with that in mind. But the
he, to me, it was very clear how the system worked. And, and the
idea. And of course, that's I think that's why Erik Braverman
and Neil Brown got married only just before he quit. So that you
know, you have you can't testify against your spouse. So the way
I understand it was before Hillary left the State
Department, she wanted to have this KKR group in place. They're
the ones who say, okay, yeah, they're consultants. Okay, you
can you can sell arms to here you can do this. So they're kind
of the gatekeeper. And of course, they were controlled by
the by the Cabal, because Neal brown married Erik Braverman,
who was the head of the Clinton Foundation. Um, so everyone knew
exactly how it was all and this is a big, big money, swirling
operation. And a lot of it 100 million here. That's peanuts. I
think we're talking hundreds of billions of dollars. Easily.
Well, sounds like jail time for somebody. Well, it's that who's
who's but they said to patsies up before that anything comes
down. Right. Well, they try to know they try to know what a bad
actor he was. Talking about code. I'm sure we will continue
on that line of discussion for the next year. Joined by CO I
ran into the singularity one of the guys are out to they are out
to get it which is the the Liberals is Jeff Sessions.
Yeah, they're going after his racist race races.
It's all like he always said something bad once or somebody.
It's just,
oh, let me tell you exactly. I know exactly what it was. When
he was being confirmed as a judge, and he was not confirmed
because of this. Someone testified that session said said
I didn't Unlike the cake, I didn't like the K K. K, when I
found out they smoked a lot of weed. It was something like
that. And it was a testimony from someone else.
Well, this is a little clip from Rachel Maddow. And I don't want
you to interrupt it. I want you to listen to him. There's like a
new code word.
Do you think that the Judiciary Committee and the confirmation
process, as you understand it, is care capable of teasing out
these sorts of subtleties? Obviously, the Trump transition
believes that his name as the US Attorney, being associated with
the filings that you did on those civil rights cases is
enough to give him credit for those things. Do you think the
confirmation process is subtle enough and thorough enough that
these things will be teased out and that he won't be given
credit for this thing, these things that he's claiming credit
for?
Well, in 1986, when he was nominated to be a federal judge,
the Senate Judiciary Committee, which was then controlled by
Republicans also did give the opportunity for issues to be
teased out. And when they were teased out, they found out that
he had been racially insensitive and the number of comments that
he had made, and his civil rights record was really
questionable.
No, but okay, code word. I missed it.
Have you ever heard this used like this, teased out? It's
going to be teased out. It's going to be teased out? Oh,
yeah. It's going to be teased out. It's going to be teased
out. I've never heard anybody use this word like that. teased
out. Teased, or when I hear teased, I think teasing as an
pestering, or teasing as in teasing your hair. To
know, I know, I mean, I think the usage has gotten this thing
is not correct. But I've never heard it used in this context.
Are they going to tickle him? Or
it just sounds like to the liberals, and they're using the
the Liberals have this tendency to let right wingers do to have
a tendency to come up with these little code words. So you
identify each other?
Oh, yeah. Oh, give us another feeling
chilling. No, it's chilling, killing, killing is killing. You
run into that a lot. But I've never heard this as a new one.
This is teased out
and we got to track that. I like it.
I'm surprised it's down like a sore thumb to you is used four
times.
Lack of B 12. Yes, please take it out. Before we take a break.
Just want to revisit the laughable conversation about
Trump and his lack of celebrity poll. Because, again, the
general consensus is and this goes to a newsletter, you wrote
a couple newsletters back that if you're not on board, if
you're not in the celebrity culture, then you might as well
not be in America. If you don't, if you're not a part of that
world, then forget about it. You just no good, no good. And of
course, this came up again, CNN, this is their I think they're
their media expert. And he's talking about how this Hollywood
and celebrities view Trump.
Trump has said a lot of things that you would think are the
anathema sort of to to Hollywood, including things
about, you know, women's issues, and bigotry and gay rights and
things that they always make their causes. So it's, it's not
surprising in a way that this kind of consistent opposition,
but he has been known to be friendly with celebrities like
Elton John, and I want to put up on the screen though, that he is
somebody who apparently is declined to perform he David
Foster Celine Dion. It's a god event with a huge audience. At
can you remember another inauguration where stars weren't
as jumping at the chance to perform?
Well, I think that we're particularly jumping in the
George Bush era, but he had very big names before Destiny's Child
performed that his first one that would Beyonce was in the
group, you know, I mean, very big names. And in the past,
there's been a lot of support from the country music industry,
for conservative candidates. It's odd. He's not getting at
least a big portion of them, either. There's much more of a
conservative opposition here than there ever was before. And
it's partly because let's face it, there was this hostility
towards him. And he's a very unpopular president right now,
in terms of favourability rate.
I like how he's already an unpopular president. He hasn't
even taken office, but he's a very unpopular president right
now. Very,
very president. President. Yeah,
it's like his presidential ratings are zero, I think at the
moment,
because let's face it, there was this hostility toward him, and
he's a very unpopular president right now in terms of
favorability ratings. And clearly the popular election
vote so it's a little safer for I think, entertainers to say,
well, you know, he wasn't even a majority winner. So the
reluctance has a little bit of validity to it.
Fail you covered Donald Trump way prep. Politics during the
apprentice years when you read the New York Times, and you
know, my understanding is you spent a lot of time with him
knowing him. And knowing the way that he approaches the idea of
celebrity. How do you think this is sitting with him that he is
having some trouble?
I think it's deeply galling to him. You know, I think he, he
has a big ego. Of course, we know that. And he does have good
relationships with a lot of celebrities. But a lot of
bridges were burned in this campaign. And I don't think
Donald really realizes yet that this is going to be kind of the
way it's, I think, last, there's a real resistance to his
policies, especially because you can argue that the people that
his name so far are only confirming to some of these
Hollywood types, there were fears that they they don't see
him, you know, reaching out to be sort of a president of the
whole country, he seems to be veering even further to the
right and in issues they don't really accept. So I'm not
surprised for that. But knowing Him He will not be take this
lightly. I don't think he'll take it lightly.
I would imagine not. But as we're watching the replay of his
entrance at the at the convention, maybe he hasn't
needed another celebrity, he knows how to make an entrance.
So you know, that's probably what's going on in his mind.
People are so obsessed with this, I think has been pretty
clear. They don't care about celebrities anymore. And they're
gonna have the Rockettes and the Tabernacle Choir saying, oh,
man, I wish
that Symphony Orchestra works. I wish I could have recorded that
was
listening to the the angry, white gay man channel who love
Hillary. Progressive. And yeah, I gotta figure out a way to
record that. So Michael Angelo singer, Ellie is saying RCA
jack, it's a little more complicated. was saying you
because one of the Rockettes was saying, I don't want to perform
for him. And the guy who runs Madison Square Garden, who also
owns the Rockettes, he's the Rockettes are performing. And so
the story now has been twisted into she is being forced to
dance. And then take that one step further. Donald Trump is
forcing women to dance. I'm not kidding. That's an a think about
it. And historic. Donald Trump is making women dance forcing
them to dance, dance and bash. Unbelievable. Crazy world crazy,
crazy world. And here is yet another celebrity video. Yep,
they just won't stop another one for and there's a whole bunch.
You may recognize some of the voices when you see it. They're
all pretty clear. And they have another message here. Members
of Congress, your
members of Congress, your members of Congress, yeah.
Members of Congress
on that flabbergasted furious
concern for my children.
I'm worried for everyone. The majority of Americans,
regardless of who they voted for,
did not vote for racism or sexism or for xenophobia. And
yet Donald Trump one and
since he won hate crimes arising, women have been
attacked in his name, people of color
attacked in his name, you represent us in Congress,
You are our last line of defense.
So here's what we ask of our elected officials. No, here's
what
we demand. To the extent that Trump pursues racist, sexist,
anti immigrant, anti worker, anti Muslim, anti semitic
anti environmental policies, we demand
that you vigorously oppose him,
we demand that you block nominees who threaten the rights
of women,
the LGBT community, people of color, immigrants, and the poor.
And we want you to know that we are with you, as long as you do
that stuff. But we won't remain silent. We won't remain silent,
won't remain silent, will work harder to mobilize our votes and
our communities.
But we need you and we expect you to have our backs
to protect our civil liberties and to use your congressional
powers to obstruct to obstruct,
obstruct, obstruct defeat
anything, anything, anything,
anything that violates our core values as diverse Americans
signed the majority, the majority, the majority, the
majority of the American people.
Sorry,
do they think that this is good quality material that people
really, I'm sure there's a group of people that get behind this
stuff, but these are all second rate, people in Hollywood there,
they couldn't get any of the A listers because they are too
smart to do this stuff now. Not a good idea. And these are, like
very few.
Well, Rosie Perez and yeah, Rosie Perez,
really have this a C list or I mean, these are not, you know,
where's Clooney?
Right. You know, right. That's what I said, right? Because, you
know, there's only one thing you need to do if You need some kind
of distraction and for some reason it's not coming up
because otherwise you got to call Clooney exactly you got
some distraction Wow I'll tell you the celebrities who have
them we'll see we'll see how it all works out for them.
It's not gonna work out for them if they keep this up.
I don't think so either. But with that, I'd like to thank you
for your courage and say in the morning to you John C or the C
stands for code words are everywhere Devorah IK
and in the morning you Mr. Adam curry also in the morning shifts
as he boots on the ground feet near subs in the water and all
the names and nights
as in the morning to the chat room no agenda stream.com good
to see everybody here and in the morning to our all of our
artists of course but I want to specially say in the morning to
Michael Jed. He brought us the artwork for Episode Eight, nine
or one which I think wasn't an evergreen. I think we pulled up
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warning. Yes it was on the Evergreen. Now it was fantastic
no agenda are generated are calm is where you can find all of the
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producer producer of the program. And of course we have
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show. Who can we thank today John?
We have nobody to thank almost Oh,
okay.
Okay one of them. We have let's go over these we have from 500
bucks from Los Angeles California Andrew complicated
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attorney that was at the meetup ah who I skipped so he doesn't
he shouldn't even be on this list. But we got him on anyway
because we moved him over to this show. And he does have a
Senate note in was a pleasure meeting he will first you got
jingle requests you're gonna look for those as I read the
notes as Oh mg juice. LG why? Yeah, and will be vagina Okay.
Which I find interesting because he was moaning to me about how
the these jingles are stupid. Anyway, it was a pleasure
meeting John and his family they'd love to hang angles meet
up Park Expo is my new favorite cognac. I've been a longtime
listener but this marks my first donation. I'm a criminal defense
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nice. Murder,
murder.
Someone's got to do it.
I must say that personally handing the check to John made
me realize what a douche I've been for failing to donate all
these years I quit requesting immediate de douching
immediately.
You've been de deuced
I had a joy I had the joy of enjoying a lovely fried chicken
dinner after the meet up with three fellow no agenda listeners
to UCLA seniors and flight attendant for Delta was always
on the lookout for Adam. It was wonderful to sit at it too. He
flies delta a lot.
Yeah, but it only happens when they switch out equipment
because I liked the fly KLM too.
She mentioned that it was wonderful to sit at a table with
like minded thinkers enjoying the hearty meal not having to
defend a stance or have a political argument. I did thank
you both for the many, many, many hours of sanity whilst
navigating the treacherous roads of Los Angeles of the past few
years. I assure you there'll be many more donations that come
and he also dropped off a bottle of Brunello
Moo Nice. So let's
have him does
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was good with jobs. I guess he got a job. Now he's a he's a
murder attorney in LA he's fine. Plenty of work over there. Oh my
gosh. Can you see that juice? You've got karma. Thank you very
much.
And he'll
official the official homicide attorney of the show.
Yeah. And drugs and drugs. Well, gosh, that was should be a
waning business. But you know, Sir Tim of the map of Tassie in
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What she's 999 You can do a calculation when she told me. I
told her to keep hitting them in the mile right on. That's a dead
Sir Tim of the mountain of tape. Tassie Mount Stewart loves
mania. Give him a karma. Yeah. So
well, we're coming to Australia. We're working on this. And I
would like the Australian and New Zealand producers to come up
with a snappy title for the tour. We need a tour name Yeah,
yeah, it's, I mean, look, you guys are producers come up with
a tour name already. Really? Please? Yes, they can karma.
Outstanding. I do have the Australian
tour.
I do have a note here from nurse, Caitlin. As and she says,
Here's your aunt candy as promised. Now she sent you some
two. Yeah, she sent me a nice Christmas card as well. And she
has
got two pieces of Q white candy was filled with and she said
PS congratulations. I'm happy that you were able to turn Tina
the keeper into Tina the caught that's a good one. So I figured
I'd try this vice versa. And this is the ant candy. With real
farm ants chocolate flavored let me see what's on the back here.
Ants the other red meat?
Yes, it's the other red meat. Get used to it.
Okay, tasty and preferred food have the ant eater become an ant
eater too. All righty. So here we go. Let me packaged up all
right, I'm gonna take half it's white chocolate, and there's
ants inside
is eating the ant candy as we speak pretty good.
He's chewing it and chewing it and try another picture.
And he's going to have a second piece he's going for the second
piece
is a little kick to it. A little fiery.
He's commenting
but I'll tell you if you would if you had not told me I
wouldn't have known there I just got a crunchy those things are
peppery
yes
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nine years and older propagate the formula
is this. We go out. We hit people in the mouth
nice. Well, that wasn't too bad.
No, because nobody. Everyone bailed. What do you do bad? What
do you mean everyone bailed? No, I mean, no donation.
Oh, the shock. I'm talking about the chocolate wasn't too bad
man. I'm talking to the ants. The ants the ads show. That's
nice.
Oh, no, she actually eats that stuff.
And I have just a couple more like Trump. I call it Trump
transition thing is yesterday, of course we had a new senators
and the new congressman and house representatives coming in.
And of course there's lots of talking now Chuck Schumer is the
is the head honcho. He gets to talk about everything. And he's
come up with a slogan because you know, he's in charge now. So
he's got a very, very funny idea. Since the Trump
administration has promised to repeal Obamacare on day one,
which is being used as a an incredible fear tactic. You
know, whenever you have a new law or repeal which means
basically a new law the one isn't there, whatever it is, it
doesn't happen the next day. i There's stipulations. 180 days
it could be three years could be whatever they put in that it'd
be more posturing than anything. So they're making everyone
afraid Oh, you're gonna die. You'll have no medication
should be a forever it'll be hosting the new thing to go into
play. Yeah,
of course it will. And they've come up with the slogan
Republican plan to cut health care wouldn't make America great
again. It would make America sick again.
Oh, Oh my goodness, what a good one. You're so funny.
He should have had a heavy didn't it? You know, it would
only work if he if he after he said that this guy is there's no
comedian if after he said that he pulled out a red hat or a
blue shirt and a blue hat who had you had Democrats put the
hat on his head, it says Make America sick again, that
would have been much better. I agree that was funnier. That
would have been funnier. Nancy Pelosi, of course says she also
had something to say if
you're a senior. You know, Medicaid, almost half of
Medicaid is about long term health care. You want grandma
living in the guest room? You repeal the Affordable Care Act.
And so make America sick again. Is that what the Republicans
want to do?
Oh man cheese. Terrible. You had grandma living in your house?
It's really It's so insulting. Hey, me. Well, I got the new
OECD and analysis of global antidepressant uses users per
1000 people per population per country, if you are interested.
everyone's interested.
And the number two number three, number four, number 567. And
eight are really interesting. Of course, we rule. No doubt about
it. The United States has 110 people per 1000 on
antidepressants. So that is
was that one more than one out of 10 people?
This? Yes. Yes. Number two on the list with what you know, and
I was very surprised. Policing is number two on the list you
with 100 So we're hiring. No, no, no, this above Denmark is
Iceland.
Oh, they got Iceland is all doped up.
Number three, Australia. Number four Canadia. Number five,
Denmark and Sweden, Portugal, UK. The least doped up people
are in Korea. Only 13 as
they drink those little energy drinks all day. Nobody's gonna
get depressed on those things.
But I was just like, wow,
I didn't know you go to Korea. When you go to Korea. If you
have an expert anybody taking you around showing you around?
You will be in kind of introduced to these little
bottles of energy drinks. And they're not like the ones we
have there. A lot
of Atari like the night like the five hour like
different. This has got all kinds of other stuff. What is
that little red
ball that you buy at the gas station. It's actually taste
good too. I was wondering what that crap is.
It's got a lot of torinos which is you know, sketchy. But the
Koreans just drink this there all day, just about one to one
an hour. And if you go to the big the big Korean supermarket
in I think it's in Redwood City or Menlo Park is down in the
peninsula. It's a colohan great place called a hand Kook. Ha n
k. O. K. You can look it up on Yelp. There's a huge store. That
is all Korean food. It's not like an Asian stores Korean. And
they have a whole aisle full of these various drinks that you
buy by the case.
Oh gosh. Funny, and maybe something we can white label and
sell it.
So they don't well, apparently Virginia energy drink?
Apparently it doesn't make them depressed. Oh, that's true. Now,
Iceland, I've heard that they're generally depressed or anyway,
because it's always dark and half the year. And there's used
to be a high suicide rate. There's not a lot to do except
get drunk, which they do very well.
They're very good at that. I caught Don Lemon. Last two
nights ago. He had Michael Higginbottom on he's an author.
And so is someone some other guy was basically three black guys
talking about how racist white people are. It's getting a
little annoying to watch it as a as the man is the persona non
grata of society straight white male, old. What was the Civil
War about John, you are a reasonable expert in this.
Well, was about sovereignty of the states more there was
anything else. It's was originally called the War
Between the States. You
mean states rights is what we'd say. It was states rights.
And are you sure? Are you sure about that? Which is in the
Constitution? Well, there's the if you look at Canada's stamps
book, he had a book of various things extract it. There's what
during the Iran if you were there at the time, it wasn't a
fight about slavery, even though the abolitionists have taken
over the Republican Party and got Lincoln in and it was an
abolitionist movement, right. That wasn't how the war got
started. Even though they saw the writing on the wall. It was
being pushed around. They were just the south got sick of it.
Well, you sir. are clearly a revisionist racist.
Actually, the more the more recent interpretations are more
revisionist than than what I just said.
I just needed to call you a racist. Yeah, well, there's no
there's no t in racist, just so you know, races.
Van Jones has reported here at the weekend when he went around
to interview a lot of those Trump supporters that wasn't
disqualifying for them. But let's I want to dig deeper than
that. Because the article goes on to say that this is that this
racial amnesia as they call it is similar to what we saw after
the Civil War, were defeated, which defeated Confederates
argued that Civil War was about states rights, and not slavery.
Are we seeing a rewriting of history now, Michael?
I think we are and the comparisons are fascinating, and
I think, very accurate. Birth of a Nation which most individuals
Americans know about. It was a rewriting of history about
reconstruction, basically glorifying the Klu Klux Klan and
suggesting that they were the saviors of the South rather than
a racist terrorist organization. And I think we're seeing that to
an extent today with the denial about the significance of race
for some Trump supporters. Remember, Trump ran a very
divisive campaign on race. He initially when he announced he
talked about Mexican immigrants as criminals and rapists
Hold on. Mexicans, not a race,
he talked about a Muslim ban for all Muslims, Muslims not erased
coming to America. You know, he he, I mean, these were clearly
racist notions.
No, no. So there you go, John, you revisionist, racist?
Well, let me give you though, you want to get a good
conspiracy theory version of why the war got started?
Let me think yes.
The when gold was discovered in the western part of the country
in 1849, and it was started turned out to California and
Nevada, we're just going to bring in trillions of dollars,
the British and the French decided that Jesus is why did
you how did we lose these people we should have, the French
should have had the southern part of the country and the
British should own the northern part as part of Canada. So they
decided they do instigate a civil war. Using South Carolina,
which were a bunch of monarchists, I think there still
are to this day, to get them all riled up. So you could split the
country in half, and then the French would take the lower part
after the war was over, they'd own the southern part of the
country, the British would own the northern part, we're going
to hook it up to Canada. And then the two countries would
split the spoils of California and Nevada and all the gold and
silver. And to prove this is actually kind of right, the
British put a lot of troops and people into Canada and set up a
spy network. In fact, at one point that tried to burn down
the city of New York, entire city, literally from the spies
that came in from the they were called Confederates brought
spies and all the Confederate spies were located in Canada,
and the French had moved in Maximilian in it and taken over
the country of Mexico, in it before the war ended. And they
that the Mac Maximilian and his French army, were going to move
in and take over the southern part of the United States. And
that's really what it was all about his bottom, but
I like I like that too. I you know, if anything, if there's
money involved, I'll go I'll take that route. That seems to
motivate people the most.
Same so yes, yeah. Yeah.
Speaking of which, you can refrain from sending me emails
about Bitcoin? It's, it's, you know, I have to set people
straight on this. You still have Bitcoin? I still certainly do.
And of course, Bitcoin was 1100 Yesterday down under 1000.
Today. The point that we made a long time ago is we do not want
to receive donations in Bitcoin. And the reason is very simple.
It is not actual useful money to us. We have to change it into
something we can use to pay our rent. Live rent. John, you have
mortgage. Food. Yes. Yeah, there's 45,000 vendors around
the world who accept Bitcoin, of course, if I want a USB hub, and
I feel hungry for it, and I can eat it. I consistently get the
same emails. Oh, we'll see. This is real nice. Good. You see
what's happening. I bet you wish you had my Yeah, if I had gone
for an investment vehicle, which I didn't, and most of these were
given to me when they were like 50 cents 50 do not occur. When
you equate the meteoric volatility of Bitcoin with
currency. It shows you don't know what you're talking about.
You do not want a lot of volatility in your currency. If
the US dollar dropped overnight. 10% The world would end I mean,
it would be what would happen Yeah, it would be people would
freak out other people jumping out of windows if that happened.
Well, it screws things up
10% Yeah, yeah, I think so.
So stop flowing got it while you're while you're on the topic
of complaining at our audience
know only the people who try to continue it. It's like, you
know, you really have the wrong attitude. No, I don't. It's okay
if I can pay my rent with it go Bitcoin.
Now, we got a note from one of our producers who's a Buddha
night. It was sick of working with Pay Pal. And you know, he's
gonna have to send checks I think, because he gives me the
old Patreon what's why she is Patreon. Now, I realized when he
sent a note that I've been working on a no agenda fac FAQ
FAQ, that I want to remind you if anyone has a questions and
answers and the answers be appropriate. I want to put it in
as fat because I Rizal Yeah, I got to put this in the facts. So
I wrote to the question and answer to the Patreon question.
Why don't we use Patreon? Well, reason is, for one thing, they
hold the money, they can keep it they can shut you down. They can
do all these different things that are very negative. They're
not a bank. Pay Pal is more of a bank, your money just goes
straight in pulls, it gets pulled straight out straight to
a bank. It's very simple. It works fine. I haven't we have no
problem. But every once in a while there's a problem with a
one person that happened to we had one recently where some
guy's donation was rejected for some unknown reason. And we're
working on that now. It also has a limited way. We have like a
lot of programs. We have producers ship programs, we have
night programs and layaway programs. A patient can't handle
any of that. But they also have a terms of service. Have you
read it is like reading the dummy contract for a book of a
book deal. So worst they even do even you can they indemnity you
have to be you are liable for any lawsuit that takes place
against them
outstanding.
I mean, there's an indemnification problem. There's
all sorts of things that are wrong with Patreon. And I just,
I we're not using it for a lot of different and they also
charged 5%, which is more than than Pay Pal charges. So we get
charged more, we have all these limitations. They can pull the
plug on you at the drop of a hat. And then all of a sudden
you've lost a stream completely. Yeah,
we had a whole bunch of subscribers that happened that
WikiLeaks remember
people can argue that will pay pal can do that, too. And yes,
there's some truth to that. But it's not. This is not a system
that we want to work with. We have our own system. You have
newsletters. I don't even know if you get the mailing list from
the people who donate. i There's no evidence that you do. Maybe
you do. I don't know that part. I don't know. Yeah. But so no
pay at Patreon is not going to be huge.
But it's just I just want people to understand if you would send
us $100 Yesterday, in Bitcoin, it would have been worth $90.
Today, how is that good for us? Yeah. How was that good for us?
Now, you can say, Oh, I might be worth 110. Yeah. Okay. We have
to have some level of normality in our lives. No, I mean,
there's no fluctuation.
Yeah, and there's also an I think there's an IRS issue with
using Bitcoin for donations. Be honest about it. Maybe I think
maybe I think it would cause issues. So
I was gonna save this to the to the next donation break, but
maybe we should talk about it now. Ev Williams, of course.
He's the guy who sold blogger to,
to go ahead ahead. Yeah.
So he just fired 50 People at medium. Medium was his, you
know, his new pump. In fact, I'd like to read a little bit of his
email here. Because, as you know, I've always said you
cannot monetize the network. advertising online. Yeah, of
course, it has some benefit. There's always brand recognition
and display stuff that helps but you know, the way it's counted,
the real value of it is extremely low. And so Egghead
has found this out. He kind of couches it in his in his thing
here, because he said, you know, medium was supposed to be the
way for news. I didn't know it was for news, but that's what he
wanted to do.
I've never seen a news article and there's always just essays.
I'll start with the hard part. As of today, we are reducing our
team by about 1/3 eliminating 50 jobs. 150 people working at
medium.
That's what I was thinking when I heard read that what level
these people doing mostly
in sales support and other business functions. So you fire
those people because I don't know there's no sales or support
or other functions. So it's a tough thing to do blah, blah,
blah, blah. And then he has key metrics, which was great. We
are, you know, readers and published posts were up 300% We
witnessed important stories published on Medium from world
famous leaders to unknown individuals on a daily basis,
we're proud of Abba. But it's not working. Our vision was too
ambitious to build a platform that defined a new model for
media on the Internet. The problem as we saw, it was that
the incentives driving the creation and spread of content,
were not serving the people consuming it or creating it, et
cetera, et cetera, we need a new model. And so he's basically
saying, the advertising doesn't work doesn't work for us. And we
decided we need to take a different and bolder approach to
this problem. We believe people who write and share ideas should
be rewarded on their ability to enlighten and form to enlighten
and inform not simply their ability to attract a few seconds
of attention. And he actually uses the V word that you should
be paid according to the value you provide to the people
reading what you write on medium. Oh, my goodness, what a
concept. 10 years in the making over here of head. So you're
gonna see it all falling apart. You're gonna see
jumped to the conclusion. Well, he
has the conclusion himself. We know the path ahead
is a dumb idea. Medium or this, this post? Medium? Well, the
post blog is a blog. It's a shared blog, where you're
contributing, you're giving away your work, you're getting
nothing back and shared blog people. Yeah, anyone can set
that up shared blog. You know, there was never ever one of the
problems that you have is going to be a news medium, or whatever
you wanted to think it was? I don't know that there was a
front page anywhere you where you could be directed to the
good stuff.
I don't really I mean, once in a while I run across something
that's on medium, but I don't really go. I've never seen it.
Maybe there is a front page. But I don't know that there is I
really don't. And no, you can go you want to write and get your
opinion across it. Call up the New York Times and then offer an
op ed? Yeah. All right, or the USA Today. There's all these
newspapers around the country, and they love op eds. And they
pay for it. Mostly, you don't get paid a lot. But you get paid
more you probably get paid at medium depends on the on the
publication. But yeah, you can write these op eds, or you can
write articles for newspapers and magazines. Why would you I
never could never understand what anyone was writing for
medium.
It's because people have been taught not to think for
themselves about how the internet works. No one has been
really trained. They see it as a television. Like God, there's
networks out there. And these networks, you can write stuff on
it. No one really thinks that oh, you know what, you can have
your own server, your own website, you don't have to be a
part of this, you can do a million different things. It's
not
that way, you can go to wordpress.com as another
fantastic way to just buy, you know, you have to buy anything,
it's free, actually. And you can just you know, if you wanted to
put your own domain name, which is just
as disturbing to me, although logical, and when I read the the
intelligence joint assessment report, and they have all these
and this was the public report all these tips for people. Why
isn't there one single mention of encryption? Hey, Congressmen,
women, senators, uh, you can encrypt your email, and then no
one can steal your shit.
They can break you why there's no mention. Okay. The FBI has
been promoting the idea for at least 20 years that encryption
should be illegal. Exactly.
But it's a huge disservice to the American public. Yes,
exactly. I mean, now more than ever, I'm getting encrypted
email. And by the way, if you go to key base.io, you can actually
find people's public keys easily you could you don't even need an
email program, you can just type in your message, it'll give you
the encrypted stuff you can copy paste it into your email. Same
for decrypting Of course. Now if you want to go that route, and
it's really it's gotten quite easy it's just a tip Yeah, we
haven't looked at the six week cycle in a long time because for
a while there was the six hour cycle but there was one that
caught my eye that I had it wasn't big news for some reason.
But there was this guy who was he said that he was a member of
the kk k and he had this whole plan to kill Muslims with a ray
gun mounted in a van. Okay, you gotta listen
to this. I don't know this story.
No, it didn't get any traction. His name is Glendon, Scott
Crawford and he he wanted to kill Muslims. I'm reading from
ABC now, while they slept in their meat while they slept in
their meetings with undercover agents. This guy and his co
conspirator Eric freight fate, said they were going to use a
death rate done that would blast Muslims who he labeled near
medical waste. If the plan was completed that truck mounted
radiation particle weapon would aim a lethal beam of
radioactivity near mosques, Islamic community centers and
schools. All of those target would eventually die from
radiation sickness within two years. So the gun will be
mounted inside the truck drive to an area of high population of
Muslims, and then he would beam this array. So the FBI is on
this like okay this is clearly a guy who's going to do he was
he's up to no good and so they sell him a radiation device.
What Yeah,
well, this is definitely a six week cycle formula.
And I don't know what they sold him like a couple of toilet
toilet paper tubes or something with aluminum foil.
Like a dental X ray machine with a targeted with a dish
right? But this goes way above and beyond you know, getting
somebody some phony baloney detonator device. Hey, man,
you're crazy. Here's your microwave, Reagan. Come on. Get
a job.
Oh, maybe that's what the maybe that backlash within the agency
is would give God to squashed? Mm hmm. That could be Wow, so
what happened to the guy who gets thrown?
Of course he's in the slammer. Oh, man. I damn it. I'm gonna do
it. I had a new jingle for the war on cash. We talked about
Bitcoin. I forgot to play it. Let's save it for the next show.
It's too good, John. Yeah, I knew it because this Oh, yeah.
He's that's a secret agent Paul again.
He's the best he really is.
He's like, I can't. I can't help but I gotta do more.
So I'm watching. Yeah, that's what happens. Well, a couple of
things. Let's start with this. This is a I find it like I'm
looking for codes. I found a new modified up talker. Oh, this is
totally different. There's no up talking involved. It's just
stretching out of it. I'm gonna try to do it. It's stretching
out the last word. So when I say a sentence, The Last Word will
be stretched. Okay, but not but without up talking.
Do you want me to play?
Yes, play?
Oh, you gotta do it, right?
Yeah, yes, you must play.
This wasn't supposed to happen at all. You're like, this is
supposed to be like a celebration like happy six month
anniversary Occupy Movement. Like we're having a potluck. And
we like bed people chili and we're like, enjoying each
other's company. And I leave for like five minutes and four
people get arrested.
Oh my goodness. Borderline or for that? Borderline? Good.
ident good idea, sir.
I was just listening to her going thinking what is weird
about the way she talks? The holy crap she's just stretching
out the ledge not but it's
not up Tom. That's interesting. That said that. It's it's flat
if not down.
Yeah. So it's it's not. But it's flat. It's not down talking.
Right. Right. It's but it's not up talking. But it's got the up
talking style. It's just the axe down the last word involved and
it made it seems to be It's probably some kind of back to
you, Bob. You know, it's a meal you
it's a meal you Yes,
I that's what I see. It's a meal. You got to be on the
lookout. It's like the code words. It's like you know, if
you if you got into it enough, you could tease out the reason
you could tease it out. I can't even do it. Right. I mean, she
does it perfectly.
I think I could eventually get into get into it. I don't think
so. I just need to work on it.
Yes, me What do you think that's funny?
Yeah, I see it. It's a borderline that you have to
avoid the borderline up talking part of that. It's not easy,
that's for sure. No, you had to send mail you you have to be you
have to You're in a milieu you talk a certain way and everyone
starts talking that way and then it's got somebody who's the
influencer. There's always an influencer in a milieu that
creates the various idiosyncrasies and everyone
picks it up, because it's for some reason, it seems natural.
Yes, it does.
Okay, well, you've identified that there's a new mean. We've
had fact check FOC fact check false. We've had po Truth. And
here's the new one you forgiven
by the people who supported him time and time again, when it
came to actual facts. He really was kind of loose with the
information that he put out there loose. Factory factory
factory factory Fact Free, John, it's new factory. It's fact
free. It's like, bullshit light facts free. Act free Fact Free.
Yeah, Fact Free. Back free. Yeah, no, you can do it Fact
Free,
bag free, bag free, egg free. So I hear you here, I've got to
close with Tom Hartman show
Oh, my goodness. And he's also a progressive 127. I do catch him
from time to time.
He is He can't he's got his author on Deck is in first name
is Alan, I can't remember his last name. But he's done books.
He's got a web. He's got a blog. And but he's very erudite kind
of a professor Oriole type of guy that thumb looks up to. And
so as the guy who was on pretty much claiming that Trump's gonna
save the world, Tom will have nothing bad to say. And so as
I'm thinking, well, maybe there's Tom will have to be on
the Trump bandwagon at some point. But this is about free
trade and where it's going, where it's headed. And I thought
as a background are these two clips that I have? Were quite, I
think for the show in particular, because this guy has
a few good things to say. Which reminded me of John McCain, I
thought this was a outstanding clip that I put together here
are the reality check blog and author of the book, the race to
the bottom by a worldwide workers surplus and uncontrolled
free trade our sinking American living standards. Hello, and
welcome back.
Great to be back. So
he's having you. So who is Robert light Heiser and why is
he getting praise from progressive light
Heiser is a former aide to former Senator Bob Dole, very
important Republican for for so many years. And also a former
number two US trade negotiator under President Reagan. And
that's very revealing, because for all of the free market and
free trade rhetoric that you heard from President Reagan, and
from Reagan, Republicans for so long, President Reagan was not
such a free trader in practice, and in fact, he put into effect
programs of trade protection for several key American industries,
steel, steel, and semiconductors and textiles and machine tools.
And also one of the bills that really helped those very vital
sectors amount of very strong competitive comebacks.
So NAFTA, as I recall, was negotiated by George Herbert
Walker Bush, ultimately, and in fact, he had a ceremonial
signing, Reagan
first came up with the idea of more closely knit North American
trade ties, but it was George Herbert Walker Bush, who
actually gave it its first major impetus. Absolutely right. And
so
that deal was put together under the first Bush administration,
it was signed into law by Bill Clinton, right, who lobbied
very heavily for it in 1993. Oh, yeah. In 92. I
mean, that was the issue of the election. One of them Ross Perot
walked away with 20% of the vote. Because of that, right?
Yeah, no, none whatsoever. So even if Trump has people like
Navarro, and light hyzer and his administration, Wilbur Ross, who
supports the TPP reportedly did, he did,
he's had a change of heart, which is great to see. Oh,
interesting. Presumably, that means he has a very steep
learning curve, which is also great to see.
So we have thumb being quite amenable to this character, as
you can tell, yeah. And so they bring up the point that they're
talking about these trade guys that don't want they're trying
to kill these trade deals, which are ruining the country, and
especially for the Americans themselves. Americans are the
ones who suffer from these trade deals, which is how Trump got
elected. And so when they bring up the second part of about how
will anything actually happen? I thought there was a little bit
of insight here, which is something that I think we're
we've kind of reflects upon, or it should be reflected upon
itself by the show, because there's this is important, and I
think of John McCain, Lindsey Graham, and all these people
that are fighting, fighting it.
So do you, do you think that there's actually a very real
possibility that the whole era of neoliberal trade policies,
you know, this giant experiment that arguably George Herbert
Walker Bush started us on that has failed so badly, or at least
in your opinion in mind sure, is over.
I think it's a little too early to say that just because the
forces that have created and still support the trade status
quo are so powerful and so wealthy and frankly, so
absolutely ruthless. They will say anything to You to ensure
that that's that that trade status quo that offshoring
status quo continues blocking trillions really hit Absolutely.
But for the first time in living memory, we have we will have a
president who has emphatically come down on the other side. And
although no one can really predict how this looming
conflict is, is going to end, given how unpopular with the
general public, these offshoring friendly trade policies have
actually been, I think President elect Trump stands a pretty good
chance of effecting very important change. Oh,
okay. Did thumbs head explode when he said that?
Well, he agreed as he was, he said, I hope so. Ah, so I
thought there was an element in here that was interesting was
the forces against this right trillions of dollars in trade
that is going to middlemen and bankers and all these people
that are, you know, that are just skimming the money off
while the while we lose jobs, we have nothing to do kids can't
get work in the summertime and all the rest of it was it's just
part of this neoliberal problem. And it's all tied up with the
Clintons and the bushes, the Bush Clinton crime family, and
all the rest of it, and it's just, they're gonna push back on
that. I think a lot of this anti Trump stuff is stems
from that. Sure, sure. The people are freaked out. The
elites who were all involved in all this stuff. Yeah. Yeah. And
it's it's decades and decades and decades of intermingling.
And if you look at it from a meta level, they've really lost
control, which is what all this you know, fake news stuff and
the Internet no good and stay on Facebook. And don't do you know,
don't don't learn how it works. That's really what this is
about. And then Oh, my goodness, this guy's tweeting directly to
the public. That's not how it's supposed to work. He has to go
through us. legate key pairs. So yeah, I think they're really
afraid. Which is good, because it makes for good fireworks.
Oh, it's good for the show. Yeah,
that's what I mean, good firework
for the show that, you know, could not deal with it. And they
bailed out on us. And I think there's more than a few of
those. Yeah, that's for sure. I mean, there's some people just
ran out of money, or they could, you know, but that
has nothing to do with the listening. You can still listen,
you can still listen, Germany's cranking up with all kinds of
trouble. Big headline, Germany sees overwhelming sales of
Hitler's mind comp. It was yes, this
is very funny. The guy had to get special permission to do the
reprint because it was against the law in some ways. Yeah.
Because he had these anti Nazi laws. Yeah. And he finally got
permission. I guess he's been trying to do it for a long time.
And then boom, best seller.
Yeah, I bought it. I got that the hardcopy. It's on its way.
It's been a long time. Yeah, it's the couple translations.
And there's one translation which is done by the ADL, the
anti Defamation League, which you don't want because it's
basically taken out everything offensive, which is the whole
point of reading the book. Which one did I get? There's I think
there's the
I have to go I haven't I have an old copy that I collected when I
was in college. That is a it's a fairly offensive book. There's
no data. That's very well written to say the least. But
the whole point of of reading these books is to understand
what these people were thinking what you learn from that. The
ban, the banning in Germany was always adding bushes. Not a good
not a good idea. Well, there's a word now that the German cops
are using, which is a problem. They're using the word meffre.
Now, that means North African Nafees, bunch of Nafees over
there. So that's like Paki. Yeah. Nafi. So now that is
racist, of course. And the police are no longer allowed to
use that word Nafi. Whereas it seems like a pretty good
collective if you're in law enforcement. Yeah.
I have a couple oddball stories. And first of all, let's take a
little entre mount with a little clip from a soap opera. I think
it was days of your lives or whatever one
of the Another World As the World Turns.
I think that's what it was. That's okay. They're all the
same, pretty much show but, but I just like the messaging that
went on in this and this, to me was a subtle propaganda that was
reflective of the Trump election. And and it was also
reflective as of the thematic thing. I think people watch
these shows they don't this is so subtle. It's hard to really
put your finger on what what they're trying to accomplish.
But this was also a reflection of 2016 being a bad year. I know
I made a pact with you but I've had a crap year yeah, I lost my
law license. My husband tried to kill me my life
is a trash fire.
So yeah, I was drinking. I actually I got hammered and I
slept really really great. Which makes me really really happy. So
I'm sorry I didn't
hear your messages. I could hammer
Okay, yeah, I got hammered. Oh, what's your what's your point?
So anyway, so that was like Is that a crappy year was 26 is the
best result thematic? Yeah, she had she good last year law
license. Her husband tried to kill her. This was wouldn't be a
bad year, I would say.
Yeah, day record for sure.
And she had a get splashed with a New Year's hammered as she
puts it. And that's it. To me. This was a reflection of the
kind of memes are trying to push down American public's throat.
Yeah, yeah.
There's Yes. Subtle. Yeah. Subtle, maybe. Okay, I have a
story here. I wanted to bring up with you. State Bill 1322, which
is now in force in California. And I think this is a fine
example of people having the right idea and they really want
to do well, but come up with really stupid solutions. SB
13222 bars law enforcement from arresting sex workers who are
under the age of 18 for soliciting or engaging in
prostitution or loitering with the intent to do so.
Yeah, I found this that you mentioned I should have noted
this myself. I thought that was the weirdest thing I've ever
seen. What do you so in other words, you can be a 16 year old
hooker?
Yeah. Well, here's the idea. Their belief is that
decriminalizing underage prostitution is good public
policy that will help victims of sex trafficking. Wow, oh, by if
they get caught, they can be taken into treatment, foster
home, etc. But not go to jail. That's the idea. That's the
idea. But I think what it does is it effectively gives a big
flag wave to creeps. We're like, oh, okay, let me get a couple of
16 year olds and we're in business. And one gets caught.
Let me get another one. It doesn't. It seems so dumb.
It doesn't seem right. No, I saw this and I could not understand
it. Well, you're talking to this 80% Democrat state. That's why
they got all these votes for Hillary and the most of the
Democrats. Democrats are the big you know, horror mongers. Let's
face it. Limo demos, you know, the Democrats limousine Democrat
and Xen liberals, that's what they call them. And
your DMV in California has licensed 806,000 undocumented
residents for driving. Yeah, my goodness.
Yeah, they can't get insurance. No,
I got I got hit by an uninsured driver in Austin. Remember that
when my truck?
Yep. Yeah, supposed to throw the book at you take a regular the
regular old white male that bitches about? Yeah, you're
driving around. Just see your insurance. If you're in
Washington state and you don't have an insurance card reflects
that ownership of that car. You're a joiner $50 Fine. Yep,
yeah, yep.
And just over the transom. It has now officially been called
to hate crime and we were waiting for it. Thank goodness
all
of it was posted to Facebook Live. We want to warn you The
video you're about to see is considered very disturbing.
Donald Trump. This young man tied up in the corner is
believed to be from Crystal Lake. Police say he has a mental
disability. Investigators say he was a classmate of one of the
suspects.
Apparently they met out in the suburbs. The subjects then stole
a van out in the suburbs and brought him into Chicago.
Police believe he went willingly initially but that is clearly
not the case based on three videos posted to social media.
What you were about to see is disturbing. At one point the
victim is held at knifepoint and told to curse President Elect
Donald Trump. The men can be heard saying they want this to
go viral. Another video shows the group forcing the victim to
drink water from a toilet. Throughout these videos. The
victim is kicked, hit and cut. Police believe he was released
after being held anywhere from 24 to 48 hours.
So this was the outrage lacked. Of course that's the reason why
I bring it up. There's no outrage. This was not top of the
news. They put the hell this poor kid for four hours.
Yeah, beat the crap out of white guy. Yeah. Yeah. And no, there's
no news about this. Yeah, well, of course, the real news to me
is how stupid are these guys to post this stuff? Facebook Live?
Yeah, well, well, you know, it breeds contempt and you're gonna
get in trouble. And of course, the celebrators didn't mention
that in their little the new video. No, of course not. Oh,
man. It's really bad. Really, really bad haters. Yeah, I mean,
this stuff happens all the time of course but to me it's just
the media reaction the media reactions what's so
disappointing although understandable, it's just like
Geez man what is going on?
No, it's dead but I would actually associate this again
with it with the notion the clip that this is the fair that free
traders you know, doing everything they can to control
the media and make sure that you know this guy's is this
presidency is in shambles from the get go because God knows
what's going to happen if the if we all get arrested. Yeah. Okay,
so here's the here is a tech story.
Oh, you want to do that in tech news after the break? Or you
want oh, we're gonna do a tech. Well, I wanted to do a longer
clip because it's actually I need to open up a gate first.
Oh, sorry. Yeah, yeah, hurt yourself in that gate damage to
the gate to the gate to the clinic.
Already, buddy. Welcome to the Climate gates. And today's
climate gate segment comes to us from a guy that I'm appreciating
more and more. And I like it because you'd like to listen to
his clips Tucker Carlson. Well, here he's gonna roll and he's
got someone from your neck of the woods, a Cal State,
Sacramento, sorry, Cal State Professor Joseph Palmiro.
Palermo. I'm sorry, Palermo. And the reason I like this, and I
just pulled a couple minutes from it. The reason I like it,
because he hones in on the 97% mean. Which I think actually
this guy says 98%. But hey, he's from Cal State. So what do you
expect? Yeah, if
it is from university system, it'd be better. Peace. Yeah.
But you know, he's not 897 98 Who's counting? But he says
things. And what why he was on is almost irrelevant, because
Tucker Carlson just hones in on Hey, and which is something that
you just that, you know, it's almost like sitting in one of my
Obama bought dinners, which of course, will never happen ever
again in my lifetime? Sadly, where he's just saying, Well,
you just said this, what do you mean, how do you know this?
Where do you get this from? And I thought it'd be fun to listen
to it because it just feels good. When someone really digs
in on television, you don't see it often.
It was the uncontroversial for me to, to accept the science of
climate change that 98% of the world's scientists believe is
true, no matter of ideology is going to change the physics of
that. What I meant was very
interesting what he says no amount of ideology is going to
change the physics of that, after he said, 98% of the
world's scientists. So again, he's a professor. And he is very
callous with how he's talking.
No matter of ideology is going to change the physics of that.
What I meant was, it was misconstrued on some of these
right wing websites, they didn't really read it. I think they
came up with some really catchy headlines to get eyeballs.
We look, I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt. I don't
think you meant Twitter. Okay. But I am interested in the
claims you've made about climate science that it's settled. And
that 98% of worldwide scientists believe that how do you know
that? Are you are you a scientist? Or have you polled
other scientists are where do you get that figure?
We'll see. You know, that's another one of those interesting
kind of questions is that I don't, I'm not holding you to
what I'm saying, Oh, I'm
sorry. I thought you said something you sounded like that
guy who's that?
I'm not holding you to account for censorship. I'm asking about
the claim you just made that 98% of the world's scientists
believe in climate something called climate science. Maybe
you could explain what that is in a minute. But first, how do
you know that 98% of the world's scientists believe what you
believe?
Well, listen, Tucker, I don't I didn't want to get into Are you
a climate change denier? Or you're a skeptic? Or what is it?
I mean, is that where you're at is
the essence. The essence of science, and of journalism is
skepticism, because it seeks to get truth. And I'm merely asking
you as someone who just said as a statement of fact that 98% of
the world's scientists agree with you with whatever you
believe. I'm wondering how you know that.
Okay. Well, science is not just what I believe Tucker, I mean,
all you need
to know 98% of the time. I mean, I often hear people say that,
how do you know that? Just a simple question. How do you know
that?
Well, you know what, with your giant research team, you could
send people out and find out about it.
I asked him to explain something you just said live on our show,
which is that 90% of the scientists in the world agree
with you? And the answer, of course, is you have no idea what
climate science is really, and you have no idea that any
scientists agree with you because that's a no eliminate.
Right? Well,
let me know let me tell you, they predicted a long time ago
that we would have have high precipitation events and low
precipitation events. Well, in California, we have both we have
droughts and wildfires, which are low precipitation events.
We're having high precipitation events, which is flooding and
hurricanes and whether
there's 98% of scientists. But how about NOAA,
you believe in NASA and NOAA, DARPA, the Pentagon, you're
gonna contradict the Pentagon, the Pentagon accepts climate
change. I'm merely saying is
you're practicing the seeds of religion where anybody who
doesn't agree with what you believe, is a heretic? That is
not true. totalize? No, because he is asking questions. And I
asked you a very direct question. You couldn't answer it
because you have no idea what the answer is no, why, but he
doesn't stop you from running around talking about science
science. What's your No
Oh, so? No. So it is a debate about climate change. Okay,
fine. But if you go to a doctor, you don't say, well, I need
heart surgery. But I You must, how do you know how to do it?
Well guess No, he's no haze. There's trained scientists and
NOAA and NASA, even the Pentagon.
You don't just say I need my leg amputated. Okay, go ahead and
see what's right. Why is that? And what exactly is normal?
People ask me questions, and they're not shouted down for it.
What you're trying to do to me is, call me names. Because I'm
asking you questions. I'm
not calling you anything. I'm not calling anything higher.
Okay. No, you're well, no, I asked you if you are a skeptic
or a denier? That's fine. I'm
a skeptic of everything, including your answers.
When you get when you get on a plane, Are you skeptical of the
pilots train the fly?
And if the pilot smells like booze, I'm happy to ask
questions about whether he's fit to fly because I'm an adult
who's autonomous and I could ask questions like an adult, but
you're a religious sect that can't deal with honest
questions. And that's fine. Only the sciences?
And what was this guy professor of
the I like economics or something? Not of climatology.
You're not nothing with that. And I just heard that. Tucker
Carlson will be replacing Megyn. Kelly, her spot. Now that she is
going to NBC.
Yeah, we should discuss that. Just for a second. Okay. This is
going to be a disaster for her.
I think so. It's it's a huge mistake.
Yeah, she doesn't fit the model of an NBC anything. And the
people at MSNBC and the promises are going to bring her over from
Fox at a huge salary. They're going to probably I think 2015 I
think no, no, Fox offered her 20 She took
less to go to NBC. Yes.
She thought shows that solid more potete at
that point. Yeah, it doesn't matter if she's got enough money
so they have to work at all.
But she's going to be getting a lot more money than a lot of
these people who think that they've been there longer than
they're the ones that should be getting this money why they
bring in this alien woman and who doesn't even look right. For
NBC. She's too flashy looking. facially she just doesn't fit
the mold. I mean, everyone has that kind of a look. Yeah. And
it's you know, they have a makeup look that she employs is
not something you see at NBC, and people who use heavy makeup
at NBC, generally speaking, you're our Sean Donahoe floozy,
floozy. So they're gonna see you as a floozy, floozy. So she has
I like that. So she's going to, I just don't know what you're
gonna do. They're gonna give her like a weekend show where she's
gonna try Oh, no daily show. No, she's gonna be you know, the and
a weekend so she's getting two gigs. Yes, correct. She gets a
daily a daily Ellen show kind of an Ellen like, show.
Yeah, that's, that's where she's gonna fail.
She's gonna know she can't do it. She's not that personable. I
mean, those shows that reason Elon works and some of these
other shows that you see these daytime hosts, is because
they're just these neutral characters that are really good.
They have a Midwestern appeal to the to the moms stay at home
moms and people like that, who watch that crap. So they they
have a certain kind of an appeal. And Ellen's who I think
got it in spades. She's got the most, and Megan is just too
harsh. She's a harsh, harsh type. Well, she
is she is growing her hair out, that's obvious. So she will
reappear with a new do. And I think it'll be at least shoulder
length, maybe longer. She's really, really growing it out.
I would be stunned if she doesn't still have a harsh
quality. And then she's giving her a new show on the weekends,
like the Chris Wallace show on Fox, where she's gonna get to be
her old self. But that's not going to work either. Because
what happens that Fox and NBC have different ways of doing
business. And NBC is a classic original network, the original
network, and they're the ones who are filled with suits. And
the suits come in and they have suggestions and they have to
rationalize being a suit in the first place. Now they're going
to come in and they're going to ask you to do this and they're
going to progress you into this and that and And you know she's
not gonna respond well to that. No, she was given pretty much
free rein from what I can tell it Fox
you know what's interesting about Tucker Carlson his dad was
one of the original broadcast Board of Governors guys
it wasn't Carlson mostly on CNN before moved to Fox
yeah he yeah with the bow tie which was really stupid but he
what he did he started the hill is now his or the Daily Caller
is that his?
I don't know. Yeah,
I didn't know that. All
I know is he's definitely come into his own at Fox again.
Because I think they give you a little more free rein now than
they do at NBC NBC is um, you know,
he was on crossfire that was it. But then yeah, The Daily Caller
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I never liked him before.
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you know somebody can do a mutton in Mead song for us based
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And we've been talking and had gotten a lot of response about
Camille Paglia. Her view on transgenderism. And, of course a
lot of people have been sending me stuff and I think that in
general, they're certainly the no agenda listeners. I haven't
heard anyone push back on the Hey under 18 maybe it shouldn't
be made so easy. Maybe it shouldn't you know? Maybe it
should be delayed. If you want to have some kind of sex
reassignment surgery I'm by my I'm happy anyone you there are
people who have crazy things I ever made was even a book I read
once a guy who felt that his right leg was just not supposed
to be there. And he wanted it amputated his entire life. You
heard this,
there are people that have this, that have these feelings about
different parts of their body. Yes, and really are not actually
a name for it. I can't remember what it is.
I'd like to know what the name of that is. And he has some sort
of as a syndrome, I guess a syndrome, yes. But they're
really not happy until they have the leg amputated. And there's
ways to get that done. The what? This bit that I'm going to play
today is of a mom, who has a daughter. Well, she had a son
and the daughter, the son has it. And I think it's five or
six. Very young child. And as determined and the mom is all in
of course, and you'll hear that Oh, no, I'm, I'm definitely not
a boy. I'm a girl. And one of the great moments of their lives
was to go meet. Oh, and I forget her name. The actress who's on
Orange is the New Black, the the black, don't watch the show.
Okay, but she's very famous, very famous transgender actress,
and they they're going to go and meet her. And so in this, I just
pulled a minute and a half from her podcast, which she does
sometimes twice a week. And I just want you to listen to how
she's speaking, how proud she is, and how all in she is on
this entire movement. And we can discuss and people can draw
their own conclusions.
I was standing about 10 feet away snapping pictures. And I
was too flustered to turn on my recorder or to say anything
intelligible to Laverne. But I stepped forward and I think I
said
Laverne Cox, that's her name. That's the big transgender star
forward and I think I said I'm her mom and thanked her for
being a role model or something. And then Laverne bent down and
gave my child a hug. And I heard her say, remember, honey,
transgender is beautiful. What was the coolest thing about
meeting learn cots?
Well, almost same thing was the last time I got to hug her. She
didn't want to do hugs because she didn't want to get sick. But
I was I was just like livered I love you. And she was just like,
how could I say, you know, you're so cute, and that she
hugged me. And I was really excited. Super, super relaxed.
I wrote all this down and posted it on my blog, along with photos
of my daughter with Laverne. A few days later, the story blew
up. I heard from People Magazine, and the Today Show.
And the photos of my daughter with Laverne Cox were suddenly
everywhere. Even on the homepage for Time Magazine, friends from
all over the country, saw the photos and recognized my child
and wrote to me, I had made sure that none of the photos showed
her face since I didn't want her to be identified. But my friends
who already knew she was trans could tell that it was her wow,
I know.
She's She nobody is critical effect is just some
impressionable kid. Yeah, no,
no one is. And there's just too much in the system to allow, you
know, this just just was just normal, except I'm sure she's
hailed as a hero for you know, for helping her son daughter and
being a role model herself, please. Ah, I have the same
problem with beauty pageants, the same problem with all kinds
of things that parents push their children into let the kid
grow up a little bit before he may make these decisions and
push this and and she's clearly enamored by the fact that our
kids are celebrity now.
Oh, yeah, that's this is the big trap. This is the problem. Yeah,
yeah, that's what it is. It is the problem. The problem upvote
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it. A pillow. Yeah. apo t m n o philia. Oppo terminal arriba.
would you how would you pronounce that?
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minute. neurological disorder. financier. What?
Yeah, neural. Apo Timo APO Kim No. Philia is a neurological
disorder characterized by the intense and long standing desire
for amputation of a specific limb or need to become paralyzed
blind or deaf. Wow, some people must be not unhealthy. Some
people must be very jealous of me. What More recent term is
body integrity Identity Disorder.
Oh God. There you go.
It can't when it has features and encourages it.
Yeah, it has features in common with Soma toper. Rough Farina
Farina, which seeks surgeons perform an amputation or
purposely injure a limb in order to force emergency medical
amputation. Holy moly. That's almost that's almost as crazy as
John McAfee.
You know, here's the problem with the John McAfee. There's no
Yes or No. Show.
There's no problem as far as I'm concerned.
No problem with the clip. No. I think there's a lot of problems
with the clip,
then why did you clip it?
I had mixed feelings.
I clipped it too. Well, I
think we should put it in the show notes and let people listen
to it if they want to listen to it. Because I don't think we'd
gain anything by actually playing the clip. To be honest
about it. Okay. It's kind of gruesome for one thing is sick.
Yeah. But it's not like it's something that isn't going
around and like you can't find it on YouTube. I mean, it's not
like this is not a category.
If you want to just do a show on weird sexual behavior. Isn't
that what the show was? But that's not our show. Our show is
about politics. It's not about strange goings on with
guys. Was he gnarly? Was he not? Was he not a candidate? For the
Libertarian Party?
Yes, he didn't get the libertarian nomination. Anyone
can be a candidate for the Libertarian Party. More
interesting is just that guests that whole I didn't see the
whole document.
No, it's right. It's right. It's from this is a documentary on
Netflix. Showtime. Oh, Showtime. Yeah. You know, maybe we just
say a disclaimer. And like, you know, if you got
I'm against it, a we can put in the show notes if people want
to, which gets them to go into the show notes. Because people
don't use it enough. They can listen to the clip there.
Now this is this is the first time we've actually and I'm not
fighting you that hard, really. Because I
we've had other ages, we've had other moments where we've
decided not to do something or you're you cut a clip off? No,
I'm just cutting it off before it's played.
Well, what we'll do is I'll just give a little preview, no little
preview, here's the preview ready. That's the preview.
Kind of
everything was free, the chat room is freaking out. Now now
talking about the show to the show notes. 892. Dot no agenda
notes.com.
Yeah, you should go there. Anyway, I got a complaint for
somebody about the show notes. And I can't say totally disagree
with them. All right. They say that the problem with the way
you've got the show notes set up, which is very slick. With
all the sub things that dropdowns and all this stuff,
it's a little too slick for their tastes, because they said
they'd rather have all the all the show notes or on one page
that they could just search the page using, you know, Ctrl S, or
F Ctrl F or fine, then they could find these these and say
you can't find a lot of this stuff, because they don't know
how you categorized it. You have a sub menu after sub menu after
sub menu, it's very difficult when you're doing research to
use the show notes efficiently.
Right. So a couple things. One, our search.na Show Notes broke
the guy who did it, you know. So that used to be the easy way
because it was indexing. It actually is one page. It's one
HTML document. It just has tabs built into it. Maybe there is a
way that I can put a search box for that page into the show
notes. And I'll work on that today. So that you don't rush.
Oh my gosh, but but let me let me give you the super secret.
This is actually an I should probably just create a link for
this. Everything that is done eventually spools off to
adam.curry.com which is just a big bucket archive. So if you go
to Google and you type in site, si te colon adam.curry.com
space, and then your search term, you're searching all the
show notes across the board. It's very
fair, it is very reliable solution. Very, very reliable. I
should mention one thing, the use of si t colon is has not
really been necessary for the last six months to a year. Oh
really? Well, I didn't know that. If you just put curry.com
and then
there has to be adam.curry.com or whatever. Adam
daiquiri.com and then the Google Search it'll, it'll come up
fine.
Let me just check. Oh, you're no, no, you're wrong. No, I'm
not. I just did it.
What Couldn't you find?
No. Because now try it. Just look for anything. It doesn't
give you a list of what's on that serve. You have to use the
site I'm sorry I think you're wrong. I use site and then and
then I get all the listings from Adam dockery.com
All I know is I've not been using site I've been getting
good results
yeah this is what you want
you're up that's it oh you're off to your shows that we're
done
no no no we get oh yeah I got something okay I got a couple of
let's start with this do the the guy thought was a funny thing.
You know, the Istanbul shooting Yeah, that took place for this
guy. There's a here's an interesting little tidbit that
showed up on the Richard angle report on NBC the
Peabody award winning scammer I just want
I'm shooting. ISIS said the attacker who shot unarmed people
was a soldier of the brave caliphate. The gunman was firing
at victims inside the club for seven to 10 minutes reloading
multiple times, witnesses say and still managed to escape,
even though there's a police station, just across the street,
and why so this appears to be on the offensive in 2017. Today, I
said it killed dozens in a bombing in Baghdad. Just last
month, that deadly truck attack in Berlin and now assemble.
Rocket his friends believe the gunman had help inside the club.
Turkey has released images of the gunman and says it has its
fingerprints but has yet to find him. The fear here is that he
could slip into ISIS territory in Syria before they do Kate
drops across the street nobody cares Yeah, of
course no of course not.
Now here's a story that came up that really had me baffled
because I think this story was just under report this was over
reported but not reported at all. Which is the guy locked in
the luggage
story Oh,
I hadn't heard about this well yeah. Where did this take place?
Is took I think it was a guy was flying from I think Texas to
Charlotte or something got like the the luggage department Okay.
Some scary moments in the sky for an airport baggage handler
when he got trapped inside the pressurized cargo hold of a
united exposed
on a second. I don't believe the cargo hold is pressurized.
I think it is so good to put dogs in there. Oh, okay. got
trapped inside
the pressurized cargo hold of a united Express flight from
Charlotte, North Carolina to Washington DC Dulles Airport.
The plane took off yesterday. With the employees stuck inside
he was freed only after a touchdown. Fortunately, he was
not hurt.
Okay, now, this was a bad reporting job to me. Because you
know, you have to know that somebody locked him in there as
a joke, of course. One of his buddies Hey, man, that's locked.
Lock him in. It was gonna die. No, no, it's pressurized. Don't
worry about it. And even though it's the express ones, I'm not
sure how pressurized those are. But they don't go that high. And
so somebody liked him in but there was no reporting on this.
Because when he got out to Nate, anyone asked him a question.
That son of a bitch Louie locked me in again. I thought it'd been
a good story if they got to the you know, the little personal
human interest part
of it. Yeah, well, yeah, the creative work Consulting Group
is of course always available, you can hire us, I wanted to
cost him money to actually ask a question.
I had wanted to do a tech news segment about CES. But maybe we
can do that on on Sunday. Because, you know, all the tech
horny shows are out there and they suck at it. And it's just
no good. And it's the stuff that is at the end. It's a Consumer
Electronics Show. Is so ludicrous. so unnecessary. I'm
sure you've seen some coverage.
I've seen a lot of coverage and it's like these products are
like, okay, they got a new TV that's got Roku built in. It's
4k. And they got a new camera the new camera does 4k takes 4k
movies at 60 frames per second, which is a big deal. And then
it's all these kinds of things is these little upgrades and and
then there's some gimmicky crazy products that are stupid. Yes,
it was CES is every year so why don't go to it
right. Or here's another idea. We could do a bit where we're
actually at CES.
Yeah, yes. Yeah, we could we could let me think about that.
That was entertaining that might be
even involve some some pre production and writing which is
honestly sad. Right? Take a little more words and I'm we're
actually pretty bad at that.
We're not we're good at it, but we just don't like doing it.
That's my point.
It was any good to do it. It's kind of like, yeah, it's an ego
thing. All right. I was so good at it. Alright, everybody, thank
you very much. So remember to check out the show notes to look
at the Clinton Foundation stuff and if you want to hear that
John McAfee. That'll be in there as well along with the video
actually, which is kind of funnier. I think. When you see
other videos Yes. videos videos actually a better way to do it
just to look at these girls as they roll their eyes. Yeah, very
funny.
There you go. You know what's good now? Hi everybody. Thank
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