No, it's not an Oh, it's an Oh,
Adam curry, John C. Dvorak.
Sunday, January 29 2017. This is your award winning nation media
assassination episode eight, nine or nine.
This is no agenda sliding between
parallel universes with ease and broadcasting live in the darkest
corners of the United right here in downtown Austin Tejas in the
morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry,
and from Northern Silicon Valley where I've got my duck call.
John C. Dvorak. Levin Buzzkill.
Karaoke,
that was exciting.
That was yes, riveting, really. Bon giorno. Hey, I'm speaking to
tele Bon giorno. Yay, speaking Italian. My Italian nephew was
in town visiting me. Matteo. You guys gone on beaten some thugs?
Let's see what we've done. We did the typical go to a music
store and buy a guitar. Buy an election you know, play Stairway
to Heaven a lot. And then buy a guitar. That's an Austin staple.
You can play Stairway to Heaven.
He's a very good guitarist, actual electric corded.
I favorite song? Yeah.
That's your favorite song? I don't think so. It's
the song. If everyone ever goes floating around with me, we go
to a bar. There's a piano bar. There's a guy playing guitar. I
always give them five bucks. If they play Stairway to Heaven. It
always brings the house down.
It's true though. And you often sing along with with Stairway to
Heaven. Hello,
hello. Hello. Stairway to Heaven. On the students.
And yesterday we went to the shooting range and yeah, so he's
getting a full on taste of Texas.
The pinched off a few rounds pinched off quite a few we
tossed some brass is what we did. But you know, this kid is
smart. He's 19. And you said maybe I would get lucky and I
would get a run down to millennial rundown on what's
happening in Italy. Hello, I did.
I'm all ears. Yeah.
Well, it's not good. The his generation pretty much sees
everybody older than them as people who only care about one
thing and one thing only for all of Italy. pillory, now football,
soccer for US Soccer. They do not give a crap about anything
as long as they're soccer on TV. Everything's good.
The kids are the adults, the adults, the adults are the kid.
That makes sense. That's what they've been trying. That's what
the whole new world order has been trying to promote soccer in
the United States for right. Yeah. Same way. Well,
that's a good point. I even thought about the soccer angle
to it. Oh, so I said, Well, yeah. How about the economy?
What's going on? What do you guys think he's not? Well, we're
screwed to What do you mean? Well, he, the kids know very
well, that the only money that comes into Italy is from the
European Central Bank. And the main reason they get a lot of
money is because of their main business model in Italy, which
is migrants. Everybody wants migrants because that's the only
way we get money from the EU. And that money flows right into
the economy, then we've discussed this, where and you
know, if you want to be if you got a house, or if you want to
set up a living quarters, etc, for migrants, you get 45 Euros
per day per migrant, to do that. And you know, from that you give
a couple shekels to the migrants. And the rest is a
business model. But that is not the thing that that I found most
either like a very good economy
does or doesn't, doesn't Why
would I sell a good economy a stock course
not. So I said, Well, what's going on with the economy? We
said, well, you mean we obviously have olive oil? We
have wine although we said wow level Yeah. Wait, wait. He said
this is a 19 year old kid who really knows what's happening in
his country. I was very impressed. He said but wine
we're going down the tubes because California now has the
exact right conditions that rival Kiante a you would know
better than I John but he says that's that seems to be
problematic that they can't compete anymore with California
wines. Ah, is that uh are you disagreeing? vehemently
disagree? Okay. Well, I'm, I'm just saying what he says. But
here's the number one problem. He says. The Chinese Oh, yeah.
He says this Chinese Yeah, yeah. That says the Chinese are buying
up the following. Football clubs. Milan, Inter. They're
buying up the olive oil companies. And they're buying up
almost every single fashion brand, Dolce Gabbana all of them
being bought up by the Chinese I mean, does that mean the Chinese
kind of view it leads to more to Africa?
Apparently, yeah. We'll build some roads too.
Yeah. And all the kids see? And they're like, Yeah, well, okay,
so they all want to leave, now want to get out,
but they're gonna go. They're Italians are in Italy.
Well, he's lucky, he has dual citizenship. Now, Willow did a
really good job. But she spent, I think, better portion of a
year, getting all the forms and everything because she's
American, but they were both born in Italy. And she got went
through all the trouble and she got them dual citizenship. They
even had the, you know, do the little ceremony and wave the
flag. And yes, I'm now citizen. So they have lots of they have
rights to come in here if they want to.
Which brings us to the topic at hand.
Okay. Yeah. And I was gonna say something. Actually, before we
start, you know, we've been talking a lot about parallel
universes. And again, there's just tons and tons of examples
of people using these words in their speech. In fact, let me
just start with Christiana on poor, who just rolls it out. As
usual. I look
seriously. Steve Bannon is playing the role that he set out
for himself. There is obviously some kind of strategy here,
although it's hard for me to comprehend it. Because, you
know, I operate in the truth and the fact based Universe,
she operates in the truth and fact base universe, then it's
getting interesting how this is in the lexicon now. But there,
there is a parallel universe. And I have proof and it's
frightening to me. And it should be frightening to you, as well,
John, you know how in a lot of these parallel universe parallel
worlds multiverse theories, there is another Adam curry
doing a show, maybe it's a it's a completely different type of
show a different angle, but there could be multiple, and we
have captured and a different version of either you or me. In
a different universe.
It's just not it's just a daily code source. No. Which would be
the alternate version of your show. No, no, this is agenda.
No,
this is from the twit network. Padre SJ
another hour, listen to the best podcast in the universe. That's
according to nine out of 10 virtual machines that you've
used up another hour. Listen to the best podcast in the
universe. That's according to nine out of 10 GIS filters seem
to the best podcast in the universe.
Apparently, this alternative universe has been going on for a
while and he is us.
Well, he needs to lose some weight.
Okay. I thought it was a little frightening.
I saw the little Twitter thing going back and forth between you
two.
No, I wasn't I wasn't tweeting him. Someone else was tweeting.
I had nothing to do with it.
I thought you tweeted him or sent him something saying yeah,
it's okay. You can use our moniker.
No, I didn't. There's no such thing and no he's not because it
was your alter ego. Yeah, it's not okay for him to do that.
What happens without shalt not steal Hmm.
So he's been using best podcast in the universe? Yes. And since
when?
That not before us, and He also claims that we stole it from
him. It's not even possible.
It is in the multiverse. John, anything is possible.
So I got into a little Twitter thing with going back and forth
with I found I found a number of good examples of this. With Jay
Rosen,
you are going back and forth with Jay Rosen.
Jay Rosen. So gay guy call him out at something he's over
tweeting something.
Are you the Twitter police? Hey, hey, Rosen. You're over
tweeting.
Tell us what he said. He says, you have this he says you have
the soul of a cop. Oh,
that's fighting words. And I'm
thinking in the two universes I guess on his universe, which he
was on that other side. He's over on the globalist side.
That's where I've divided it up
Yeah, so that no no but no nations no borders universe
no nation has no borders. Yeah, that's a good borders no nations
is the way that is no borders no nations. Okay. Yeah, yeah. And
so he that would be an insult but on the other side, it would
be a compliment
yes, if Yeah, of course if that's yeah, for the for
you could say that. You have the soul of a cop and I could see it
being interpreted as In fact, I think as I was going to tweet
back, thanks for the insults slash compliment straddling the
two universes which which what we tried to do on this show,
well, what was that? had in mind. I will read a note. Okay,
but one of the guys who quit the show?
Oh, yes, we've had a number of these once again. Yeah.
And it's always one thing or another a lot of it is pent up
hostility toward the show because we we refuse to budge on
a number of points global warming being one of them mainly
and I will just reiterate global warming the whole concept
everything is based on a computer model. And I'm on the
ocean and there's no sea rising. I've got mud floods right here,
I can visually see. It hasn't changed for 100 years. So
where's the rising tides? I like to think they heard that excuse
recently. Oh, it turns out there's no rising tides in the
Pacific because Australia is acting like a giant sponge.
Remember that story?
You know, there was also an article that came out a Dutch
scientific article that says global warming can also actually
produce lowering of sea level. Isn't this great? It's like you
damned if you do damned if you don't, if whatever it is, we're
all gonna die. And that's another you know, that's the new
scientific. Just just what you do, hey, it's not going my way.
It's part of the globalist agenda because it's even got the
word global in it. People are like we, you know, we are
fighting against a machine. Yes, we're single hand the single how
to two of us. Two of us are fighting against the giant
machine. And we have a lot of listeners, there's no doubt
about that. But they also get mostly subjected to the machine.
And the machine is better than we are because there's many
bigger
and the machine is nipping at our heels. I looked at the
spreadsheet today. And of course, you know, the the common
common we get it will if you stop being the trim protection
podcast, maybe your donations will go up. I just, I'm gonna
speak on my behalf. We have been doing the same thing. With the
same attitude. Of course, the show has changed. And if it's
not sustainable, first of all, I'm not getting any checks from
anybody, except for you. And if that's going to dry up we have
to go find something else to do. I'm not going to compromise
is with great sadness and a feeling of real district Scott
am the great sadness and a feeling of real loss that I
unsubscribe from your email list. This is after I sent out
one of the best emails ever according to most people. Yeah.
Which
of course brought in very low donate. Oh, no, never the good.
The good stuff. Never friends letters,
no response.
The ones that get big donations is subject line. Hey,
hey, hey. Okay.
When we give actual content, actual content, nah, not so
much. And so
then he then he goes, because you see these guys, they were
just a subtle, repressed anger or something because it goes
like this.
It's not even subtle. John, it every line starts with, I'm
quitting. I'm out on leave
out. Let me read it. In truth. This is a good one. In truth.
I've never opened that many of your emails, although I did
enjoy the ones I read or read. So I have also cancelled my
subscription to the show. I will miss you, John. I have been a
fan since I heard you on twit I can still remember the show and
you guys came up with the name. I think I was using podcast
pickle at the time. I stopped listening to all those shows, I
subscribe to all about Android twig because I didn't like how
you were treated near the end. And I thought that not only were
you treated with disrespect, but that Leo condoned it. I think
Leo and some of the other younger people owe you a great
deal for helping to pave the way for them enough of that. Why am
I quitting the show? There are several reasons. Reason number
one, reliable warming. I don't really care whether you believe
in global warming or not. The truth is that we're making an
unbelievable mess of this little ball we live on, we may stop or
most of us will die. Either way, the results will be the same to
guns. I'm Canadian, I've used guns. I've used them to target
shoot and kill things. Both of these things I did with long
guns. I don't see the need for handguns other than for law
enforcement, et cetera. The proliferation of small
concealable guns just these two more dead people. If you want to
protect yourself, your home, nothing works better than a 12
gauge shotgun pretty much
what I've always said. Haven't we said this forever. A shotgun
is the best the shell goes. Joe Biden says that you point in the
general direction is always going to be
but but his complaint is here, because he ends it in
the press. This is repressed there's something going on with
his personal life.
Three, this is the one Trump enough Trump already tell that
to the mainstream media. I stayed with us through the
election. I wish you had At the same time limit, we do the non
US segments of the show are so few and far between that,
frankly, I lost interest. And we wanted more Canadian news. Yeah,
I know it's important even for Canada, but enough already. My
biggest concern is that I think you've become an echo chamber
have to Oh, yeah. Maybe just maybe not all the people that
have left in the last six months, because you were Hillary
supporters. Were Hillary because they were Hillary supporters.
Maybe the show just wasn't meeting their needs anymore. I
know, I've been an infrequent financial support. And all the
months that we're on that boils it down, in all the months that
the focus has been your election. I felt it wasn't
necessary. I took the time to write this because I hope it's
helpful. I wish you Adam and your families all the best value
joy, health and happiness if you ever had in Victoria BC meetup,
I'd be very grateful for the chance to meet you.
You're banned. You're banned. You're banned. Now he
took himself off the mailing list. How am I supposed to get a
hold of him? Right. Thanks for all the years of listening. I
will check in in the future. S. Scott M and Sydney. BC. So you
know, I was disappointing. Yeah. I mean, you know, if you don't
want to this is just you, I don't know you have to send
these notes are actually kind of subversion. Now
those notes are and I don't want to talk about it. Actually, I'm
kind of done. But those those notes are meant to engage you.
If they're actually I believe that actually trying to get you
to say, Yeah, you're right. We should do you know, talk about
long guns and Canada and no, Trump, that, you know, hey, and
I think I reply to him, Hey, man, you should do a podcast.
It's easy.
That's, that's always a good, cheap.
Moving back into, there's something else going on with
this parallel universe. We are in a fractal, a repetition. Of
course, fractals are repetitive. We can almost predict everything
that is going to happen, because it started with Oh, yes, we're
living in the times of 1984. Now, you'll recall that we were
discussing this book, maybe eight years ago, of course, it's
not like a new book. And we were comparing it to what was
happening at the time. And now we have people. So I think that,
you know, obviously, we have quite a list of books that are
poor parallels to the time we felt, certainly in the past 10
years. I don't know if that's changed. But when you hear what
is going on in in the meat in the corporate media,
well listen to this right now. Number one, it's been number one
for a few days. This is a
1984 being the number one book on Amazon, which I think is also
demonstrably not true, but it doesn't
matter right now to number one. It's been number one for a few
days now. And it's actually sold out on Amazon. So the publisher
Penguin, more copies of the book. And the reason why people
are associating alternative facts with 1984 is because in
that book all about Big Brother and surveillance, there's this
idea of Newspeak war is actually peace, that famine is actually
faced the idea that words and language are manipulated by this
all powerful ruler, so obviously lots of differences between them
the fake book, and now that fictional book is resonating
with lots of people. It's not the only one. Today on Amazon
Sinclair Lewis says it can't happen here
now. Okay, so let's just predict garden of the beast will be the
next one that will be selling like hotcakes. I mean, these are
all the books on the no agenda, no agenda book club. And POPPY
HARLOW, who is listening to this, she is not have to say, an
idiot
about a fascist takeover of the United States is actually number
four. Maybe it'll creep up to number three and join 1984 on
the list. A few other books with similar themes are all on the
Amazon bestsellers list. This is clearly at least in part a
reaction to Trump's presidency. I would assume mostly liberal
readers buying these books wanting to read these fictional
stories about what can happen in a place like France. Better.
What's that?
Do we know if any iron Rand What an idiot
is good? It's clearly has
never read Atlas Shrugged. You'd never say that.
I'm looking at the Amazon site right now. There are plenty of
copies of it. 1984 available. It's not sold out,
of course. But do you see what's happening is like all these
things that we discussed when there was a different
administration are coming back almost in sequential order.
Yeah, is where I'd pretty much the same order. It's true.
It's It's baffling. That's why I say garden garden of the beast.
What are the books that we have
by the way the night they really can't happen? Here's about a
socialist government taking over not fascist. I
know that's what so why do
you switch? Why do you want to switch that? They're talking
about alternative facts. Fact Check false.
Oh, yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's getting it's getting kind of
kind of kooky and then this has to be just my favorite thing
that was done. I mean, everybody is, you know, of course, we have
all this worry about Donald Trump. And we might as well
throw some scientists in there. They got the big March for
Science coming up, I believe, and everyone's gonna participate
with Neil deGrasse. And, and Bill Nye up front, it'll be the
leaders of this movement, I'm sure. And, of course, we had
this happen,
the board concludes in no uncertain terms that words
matter in ensuring the safety and security of our planet. Can
you guess what this is?
This is some bull crap about global warming and 97% of all
scientists in the world. This is
the Greek This is the doomsday clock.
They are not the same as Oh, yeah. But they matter a lot,
especially when the risks of accident and miscalculation are
so high. The first has been the Cavalier and reckless language
used across the globe, especially in the United States
during the presidential election and after around nuclear weapons
and nuclear threats. And the second is a growing disregard of
scientific expertise, expertise that is needed when it comes to
responding to pressing global challenges, including climate
change. The board takes the unprecedented step, the first
time in its history, moving the clock hand, 30 seconds closer to
midnight, no day we moved, the clock never moved the other way
to midnight. It is now two and a half minutes to midnight,
two and a half minutes to midnight.
This is the same bull crap clock that there was going to kill us
all if they remember in the 70s during The Population Bomb.
Well, no,
no, I don't. So I What was it the same clock?
No, it was a clock very similar. It was a couple of minutes it
was gonna it was gonna hit midnight at the year 2000. Well,
that didn't happen.
But it didn't because of y2k and it jumped back to 1970 should
have at
the age of gate took us back to 1900.
So the doomsday clock that is a if I if I understand correctly,
is a project of the atomic scientist, I think because they
keep the atomic time
Yes, sir. Concern to scientists? I think it's concerns I look it
up. Concerned Scientists should
know we should look at that. Certainly.
Concerned atomic scientist,
let me see doomsday clock, I thought it was the guy the
atomic guys.
Like could be a concern to try some concerned bigger but
they're concerned these people
know, there's lots of concerns. Let's see, here we go, has been
maintained by the members of the Bulletin of the Atomic
Scientists science. Concerned atomic scientists, the Bulletin
of the Atomic Scientists, science and Security Board, who
in turn are advised by the governing board and the board of
sponsors, which includes 18 Nobel Laureates. This is
science. This is serious, guys. Man, you can't question that.
I have a question. Okay.
I just said you can't question that.
If there's two and a half minutes left. Yeah. What is the
what is the overall what measurements are we dealing with
two and a half minutes already happened?
Okay, yeah, it's clearly it's you under
Select. What's the two and a half min? What in what universe
is this tune as it is one minute? 100 years? One minute.
Is there not a saying it's two minutes to midnight?
That a song? I think its name has nothing to do with
Cinderella.
No, it has something to do with. I know there's an Iron Maiden
song, of course, but two minutes to midnight. I thought that that
was oh, here it is. Let's see. No, that's also just so I
thought pick it Iron Maiden, an Iron Maiden saw anyway, but it's
just more of the same. Be afraid be very, very afraid. Afraid.
Very afraid. Everything that's happening. So wrap yourself.
Although I do have clips. I also spend and I'm very happy. I
spent a little bit of time going through the executive orders,
the presidential memoranda, everything that has been
released so far. Man I have I've discovered some interesting
things. New things have come to light has come to light. Man,
I'm telling you for reals. But maybe we should start off with
the most recent news which kind of just came out of nowhere. And
it was very evident to me within maybe 16 minutes, you know where
these airport demonstrations came from. And we also have a
producer do we from DC, who was boots on the ground and went to
Dulles Airport and recorded some of the protesters that were
there. Oh, Yes. And I was quite telling actually, this is this
is a point for you. I think you will like, Would you like to run
through a couple of these? Actually, I'll start with the
one that is,
well, let's before we do that, let's get the background is from
the big news networks. Good idea. So we have a little bit of
this, you know, kind of, you know, kind of get a feeling for
the whole thing. I get to clubs, when you start with Trump's ban
on CBS.
Okay, Trump's Wow, your your upper lower case was fun today.
All right,
against terrorism. He said.
President Trump's ban was announced on international
Holocaust Remembrance Day. Oh, mine were quick to remember. And
Frank, the young writer who was killed in a concentration camp
after the US denied her family a visa to escape Nazi Germany.
Yeah, and it's a side. It's a side note. But you know, there's
a lot of anger about this Holocaust Remembrance
proclamation because the Jews were not specifically mentioned.
And that, of course, is an outrage.
Well, there's a couple of things that I got a kick out of it. The
next clip, by the way, is the fiasco with Kennedy and it will
be done with that. But I do have to mention something about the
about this Anne Frank thing, which they've all thrown in as a
meme. Yeah, there's two interesting things I saw. By the
way, all the neighbors are still using the gold doors every time
they show, Putin talked about Anne Frank, and they said she
would have been if they refuse your entry, she could have she
would have lived and become a great writer right now. Today,
she'd be 79, who was doing this, who was saying This is Democracy
Now, she's going on, and she would have been a great writer,
and she would have been 79 If she was allowed in the United
States. Now there's, again, we have the duopoly here the two
ways of looking at this one, this is terrible. This woman
could have been a great writer. And we're obviously the by
keeping these refugees out. We are where we're hurting her
losing a lot of good writers that were you were eating for
the sitcom we got to bring him in. The other one was the way I
looked at it says, Oh, that was the Roosevelt a Democrat
administration, if I'm not mistaken, that kept and Frank
and killed her. Oh, you could take it from both sides. Oh,
wait, oh, tell me about the Roosevelt administration. What
did they do to and fro?
I refuse your entry in the United States when they applied
for a visa? I did not know this. They tried to sneak Yes. This
was sold then, frankly, was all about. Anne Frank didn't
document that she tried to get in the United States and the
United States government. Franklin Roosevelt's Democratic
Party, that no, we don't want any extra Jews over here. But
they don't really know what
it was for you. Really?
Yeah. What a dick. Yeah, totally. Oh, man. So So and
Frank became kind of a meme, but only the one side of the meme
shows up in the mute mainstream media. And that side is the side
that oh, you know, she's, it was terrible that they did that. Now
Trump's doing the same thing, rather than looking at it fully
objectively, and saying it was Roosevelt and the Democrats are
just as guilty, if not more, so it's Anne Frank.
Well, the accusation is, you didn't mention the Jews
specifically. Therefore, you're an anti Semite. And then the
response from what I understand from the Trump administration
was, well, they didn't just kill Jews, they killed gypsies and
gays. And so we want to be inclusive. We want to be
inclusive in our death notice, God, I mean, come on this. You
can expect this.
All right, here we go. This is the fiasco at Kennedy and CBS
again all right
fiasco at the Kennedys were
detained. New York Congressman Jerry Nadler says all had valid
visas, and were aboard flights with the executive order was
signed more now from Kenneth Craig at Kennedy airport.
And as you can see, opponents quickly organized here at JFK
Airport in New York, protests erupted as federal authorities
scrambled to figure out how to enforce the ban. Supporters at
JFK cheered as one of the two men detained overnight was
released. Rocking Hamid Collete Darwish has a Special Immigrant
Visa thanks to his work for the US government.
I support the US government from the other side of the wall. But
when they came here, they said no, they didn't break the rules
or do something wrong.
On Friday, President Donald Trump signed an executive order
that puts a full month hold on all refugees settling in the US,
a 90 day ban for visitors from seven Muslim majority nations
and a block on all Syrian refugees indefinitely.
We're gonna have a very, very strict ban and we're going to
have extreme vetting which we should have had in this country
for many years.
Now, this Darwish guy by the way is a big Trump he I think he
works at the White House is like a Trump Guy, they left that part
out where it says, you know, I know I like Donald Trump's great
guy. And they just put the head of he's the only guy that got
out to run for the deadline.
Well, there's there's a number of things going on here that are
troubling one. This executive order, according to the Federal
Register is dated tomorrow, January 30 2017.
There is no none of this should have happened.
I don't believe so. No, I and I'm still not convinced that
something actually happened at the airports. All we have is the
instigators of these protests, the ACLU, which you'll hear in a
moment, who could have had a very coordinated campaign before
this executive order was published. CNN had a copy.
That's the only copy I have every other the all orders about
immigration are all dated January 30, for tomorrow. And
they're also dated that way in the document itself. So I'm not
quite sure exactly what happened. But the point was
being made people really it's messed up dude, people can
people with green cards are being stopped at the border. And
I would like to mention something about that briefly. A
green card is not some kind of full on license, you're not a
citizen, you're not allowed to vote. It has permission to stay
and work in the United States. And you are on probation for the
duration of your green card. I know because I've had brought
two people into the country illegally, and they're on mute
when you're on probation if you are arrested for certain crimes,
deportations imminent, so yeah, you're not allowed to, you know,
you can't mess up. It's not like you're a citizen, you can vote.
You are welcome. You're welcome to work to stay and to pay
taxes. That just has to be said up front. Now, when you come in
with a green card, you can get questioned, it's, in fact, you
probably do get questioned, just check and see how you're doing.
I've seen this many, many times.
I think that's what happened with Darwish.
And conversely, I do want to remind everyone that I was
barred from traveling to the to the European Union, the Schengen
zone with valid documentation, which they decided oh, it's not
valid right now. So that's a new rules not valid. So this is not
like some crazy thing. That never happens. But let's listen
to some of the protesters. Now here's a note from our producer
Dewey, from DC, to about 250 people at the Dulles Airport
protest, mostly disorganized, but there was at least one small
group there with a laptop, Facebook chatting, they looked
organized, and they were the ones starting a bunch of chance.
Now he has a couple of these clips. There were maybe one or
two news crews look kind of like no local news. There were a
handful of lawyers there and casual suits and name tags that
said attorney offering free immigration counsel. And here is
here's some of the chance that we're being organized there by
the people with the laptop. We tear it down, tear it down the
wall. You go you build a wall we tear it down and then we have
this one
that is let them in now. Right? But here's the one that kind of
gives it away
there is the ACLU chant. They're just I never knew there was one
there just blatant now who is organizing this by ACLU
obviously we have the two lawyers that have them as well.
This is the same people who organize Occupy Wall Street and
they're using the same stupid stupid crap
doing the MIC CHECK John. Hello, hello five years ago, mike check
mike check now why would they do that?
Other than they're all the same people.
He Thank you. A couple more of these protests chance Welcome to
the USA. Not quite sure what the purpose of that one is. This one
of course is an oldie but goodie
that's love Trump's hate, make America great. And again, back
to the ACLU. Let them see that this has got to be the most
unAmerican thing you can ever say. Let them see their lawyers.
No, no. Who comes up with that?
Let him see their lawyers let that's a gem and
that beautiful, let them see their lawyers, he has the
attorney name badge another one. I like the chance, if you have a
green card or permanent resident status, you cannot be deported.
That's not law. Sorry, you can be deported, you can be deported
is easily, easily you can be deported. And if you're in
violation, rightfully so. But of course Muslims are welcome here.
Now, before moving on to any other chance, this is the most
troubling part that came out of this. And as I was scanning
through all the channels immediately is, even though and
I think we talked about it one or two shows ago, where I was
already hearing people saying, well, you know, it's it's a
seven country band, I don't think they even knew it was
seven countries at the time. It's a country band. But you
know, that's just a watered down version of a Muslim ban. No,
it's not. But here is the representative Kerr, the Council
on Islamic American relations, and who, of course, are also a
world of subversive
and they're very closely associated with the Muslim
Brotherhood. Well,
they were a front, did they, they were convicted. I think
we're implicated as a front group for, for terrorism for
terrorism financing. Okay, absolutely. They're now in the
lexicon. Here we go.
Joining me now is that right below Executive Director for the
Council on American Islamic Relations. The San Francisco
chapter, joins us live from there. It's good to have you
with us first. How do you see the message that Donald Trump is
sending with the signing of this executive order? What do you
think that message is?
Thanks so much for having me. Amen. Honestly, the message
feels like national security theater. They're targeting a
number of countries where we haven't seen terrorist attacks
happening in the United States connected to those countries.
And still he pushes forward this rhetoric of this makes America
safer. In reality, what it is, is a Muslim ban.
No, it is not a Muslim ban. And I'll tell you why. The country
with the most Muslims in the world is Indonesia. There is no
ban on Indonesia. Sadly, there's also no ban on Saudi Arabia,
which I find to be kind of dumb, that that would have that would
have really been a line in the sand. Say, You know what, screw
you guys, too. And now, even though we're not really supposed
to talk about it now that all the actual terrorists who came
and brought down the towers are still allowed to come. It's,
it's a brain freeze you get from it. Of course, this is nothing
new in 2011, the constitutional net could be where this
border gets stained. Well, this is also not unprecedented, by
the way. I mean, Barack Obama put a pause for six months on
refugees coming from Iraq back in 2011. I don't remember
protesters, and I don't remember lawsuits. So I think the bigger
question, if this is a temporary pause, which is designed for us
to improve and look at our vetting processes, and indeed
temporary, I don't necessarily think that's an outrageous idea.
But the bigger question should be implementation. Did you get
it right from the start?
Okay, so there's nothing new but of course, we're going to get a
different a new noise about it, because it is not President
Obama doing this. And I do want to point out that having read
the executive order, it is a completely legal order. So I'm
not sure why. Why ACLU is claiming it is not as this order
builds on US Code 1187 the visa waiver program, specifically,
section 12, A, which then by name mentions Iraq and Iran.
They can be have banned at any time or of course any other
countries that the Secretary of the State or the president deem
as necessary, so it's entirely legal as far as I can tell. Oh
man, are we protecting Trump too much John, you got to stop me if
I do that bastard Okay, well here's what well I wanted to
rapidly you get a few here let me let me stop you there. When
you go I might protecting Trump too much This to me is a pause
in your clip edge. And it allows me to interrupt and drop my own
clip good because it was all the way I saw it. It was a cue. And
so your cue it just happened to last to miss cue. I was a
miscue, your I will miss cue me. And you've been doing it
consistently. And I'll tell you why. You're bickering, you're
bickering? And no, we're not bickering? Well, I'll tell you
what buddy's best cueing the other guy and that is you.
I'll tell you why. Because you have stepped up asking me
questions. You say, What can it not be like this? Can it not be
like that. But when I do it to you, you take it as a cue to do
something else. So doesn't matter. But
that's how what you did. You didn't ask me a question you
while you did. You did ask you a question. Specifically last
time. Wait a minute, wait a minute, just to get into
bickering mode. The last time you yelled at me for asking you
a question that you needed to answer. But it wasn't a
question. I just made a statement and I made it clear it
was a statement. Let's hear your clips. And that would be no I
don't have no because you will have some opposite of yours and
a continuation mode which would you didn't let me know. And you
finish your continuation mode because mine's a sidetrack.
Let's see your clips.
I have one clip. Okay. This is the h1 B visa clip. Now. This
came into the conversation with does all this crap in the
Silicon Valley whining and whining, and this has been
Silicon Valley has relied on h1 B visas for a long time to get
cheap labor from India to replace American workers. So
Trump is going to do something about that. There's a guy at UC
Davis, we've talked about him before. I can't think of his
name offhand. Very famous guy has debunked all the h1 B
arguments. It's always about the same thing. You bring in some
cheap guys from India, and you put them into places of
Americans and they work cheaper and they're just as good. So
let's play the h1 B visa story on CBS twisted it's twisted
Reena. Jonathan biglietti. Thank you. Well, the President's ban
on refugees is sending shockwaves through the US tech
industry. Carter Evans has more on this. Oh, geez. I'm sorry.
Are they hiring refugees? And so it's sending shockwaves?
Yeah, of course waves through the US tech industry. Carter
Evans has more on this.
The President's aggressive immigration agenda has Silicon
Valley preparing to take on Mr. Trump at issue h1 B visas,
companies rely on them to recruit top talent from around
the world. Jessica Levinson is a law professor at Loyola
University.
The immigration policy and particularly this visa program
is I think it's very much on the table. My guess is that it will
be changed and it is very much up in the air.
Currently, the US grants visas to 85,000 foreign workers a year
through a lottery. But a draft of a proposed executive order
published in the New York Times this week suggest change is
coming. The administration wants to consider ways to make the
process for allocating h1 B visas more efficient.
How do you think New York Times got a hold of a draft? Is that
something that was leaked to them specifically on purpose?
What do you think that was about?
There's two possibilities. One they have somebody in the Trump
administration is passing these things around. I have an idea
who it is yeah. Okay. And or it could have been leaked on
purpose as you would would for pushback they get in advance.
No. trial balloon trial balloon, okay.
ministration wants to consider ways to make the process for
allocating h1 B visas more efficient and ensure that
beneficiaries of the program are the best and the brightest,
they will be enforced and enforce
just how the administration would do that is what concerns
Mike Grandinetti, Chief Marketing Officer at reductio, a
digital storage
startup or we're looking to recruit at least 10 engineers 10
We can't afford to slow down we can continue to stay ahead of
the big guys. More than
half of the startup cost. This is the best they could do. 10
Guys, he had some guy on a screen a Skype screen and he
runs some company no one's ever heard of and he's hiring 10
people. Is it is Jason Calacanis an angel in that company. Sorry.
Onward. Yes. I was dreading investing,
digital storage startup, or we're looking to recruit at
least 10 engineers. And we can't afford to slow down, we can
continue to stay ahead of the big guys, the big
guy. More than half the country startup companies worth more
than a billion dollars were founded by immigrants. Tesla and
SpaceX CEO. Elon Musk is from South jobs. And two of the
world's largest tech companies. Microsoft and Google also have
immigrants CEO and Steve Jobs. Google says it's concerned of
feeling now prominent in Silicon Valley.
That is called the CEO of Microsoft, an immigrant. And
then what isn't a big Indian guy, but he is they make it
sound as though the guy just came over on a rowboat. Well,
he's now running Microsoft, because he's a genius.
I'm the face bags. It's all a picture of Steve Jobs like Steve
Jobs as an immigrant from his from Syria. It's not true, but
no, he's not. But he and he was like it. Okay. Steve Jobs is was
abandoned by his Syrian father just kicked out of the Get out
of here. So that's the kind of people we're dealing with. Is
that there? Is that the point you're trying to make? Not
again, you had to two dimensions. Oh, totally,
totally. But I can tell you though, in one dimension, you
think h1 B visas a problem? No, no, no. The real problem is
coming up. One of the Sundays.
The effects of the ban have even had Hollywood reports say a
rainy director Asghar Farhadi, a nominee for Best Foreign
Language Film. We not be able to attend the Oscars.
Oh, the humanity that Oscar show is going to be just one being oh
my god, it's gonna be horrible.
Oh, night we have. We have Miss Universe and I which are have a
lot of message Oh, yeah.
Are you are you going to be on the beat?
Well, only if I'm, if it's a request, because I thought I
retired from this gang. I think
I think this is an important time for you to to, to be
brought back in. I do one more protest chant for us here.
I like that.
Can it's funny, but this is again, this is shaming. This is
the kind of thing that these people are supposed to not do.
It's insulting shaming, it's it's about appearances is taught
as a giving somebody crap about their appearance. It's like the
Cheeto face, the one that had to face Judd talked about this
whole thing. It's like just it's an embarrassment to the to the
left, and the causes that they say that they're so good.
They're so important.
I would like to for just a moment talk about the executive
order that discusses the wall. You know, of course, this is,
you know, there's outrage abound about this wall. It's crazy.
It's insane. So I read the executive order. And the
executive order states very specifically, that this order is
based on previous existing law. And that would be the I would
say, the mislabeled Secure Fence Act of 2006. And based upon that
law, and the initial funding, which I think was underfunded,
it was about $1.2 billion, that the Congress and this was a
signed by George W. Bush, went through, went through Congress
was passed in the House representatives in the Senate,
and the President signed off on it. And of course, it was
largely ignored by the administration after that. But
the executive order does nothing other than say, oh, you know,
this order this, the Secure Fence Act has not been completed
as it has to be. So we're going to do this and oh, yeah, we'll
need more money. I do want to mention specifically, the Secure
Fence Act was probably written with that title, to make it
sound you know, softer, because the act itself does not speak of
a fence or, you know, buying a with a friendship. I get like
Tom Sawyer, Huck Finn visions of whitewash and painting the
fence. Now, a physical barrier is the terminology, the Secure
Fence Act of 2006. The goal is to help secure America's borders
to decrease illegal entry drug traffic and security threats by
building 700 miles of physical barriers along the Mexico United
States border. Additional Additionally, the law authorizes
more vehicle barriers, checkpoints and lighting as well
as authorizes the Department of Homeland Security to crease the
use of advanced technology like cameras, satellites and unmanned
aerial devices to reinforce infrastructure along the border.
That is what actually happened with the money. All of those
douchebags with the L three and all those da CES for the
Chertoff Group. They took that money, and they said, Oh, yeah,
we have drones and infrared cameras, which I am against as a
border protection. You can have some of it in addition, but it's
too easy to create windows. And that's that's how the drugs come
in. Yeah, the cameras will be pointed north by northeast at
1130. You know, you have about 15 minutes before they swing
around. Where did you get some physical people in? Things
change. But again, from the Trump Protection Department,
he's using existing law. I see no issue. Philosophically, you
can have an issue, but I see no issue. Certainly not. From a
legal standpoint, at all what? Yes, and but let's that don't
take it from me. Because I don't know what I'm talking about.
Let's listen to people who apparently know much more than I
do. And that would be the two ACLU lawyers who came out
amongst the crowd, as heroes to proclaim they had done
something.
We asked the judge to hold everything in place. We believe
this executive order is clearly unlawful. But we said to the
judges, we understand she may need time to figure that out to
block the removal of everyone nationwide who's been caught up
in this unlawful executive order. She agreed the government
may not send anybody back until she finally rules. Everyone now
who came is safe. And that is absolutely critical. As Anthony
said, the courts work the way they're supposed to work in our
country, the President could not override the courts. Everybody
has to be like tonight, we they don't have to be released from
detention. We have asked for the names. She ought to give us the
names.
They don't. They don't have to be sent back. They are also not
being whoever it is apparently not being released from
detention. He said, Yes, that's correct. But that's still good.
I said they're supposed to free these people.
Now, this is a small victory. Obviously, this is a small a
small victory. But again, as he says, they don't even know the
names of these people. We don't know if anyone is actually
sitting there. We really don't know. It's just all of a sudden,
a day before this is signed officially into law, the way I
understand how the Federal Register works, based upon a
draft. ACLU is out there with crowds chanting, chanting their
ACLU safe space, Occupy Wall Street garbage damage.
Yeah, there are there are probably a few people that do
have jobs. And they have to work on Monday. Some but let's
continue weekend. I know most of them. Don't. Let's continue with
this. So that's bigoted to say that. The weekends easier.
The weekend is much easier. But yeah, to do that, so yeah,
better than Monday. You're right. Tonight,
we don't have to be released from detention, we have asked
for the names. She ordered the government to give us the names,
which is critical because the government has not allowed them
to see attorneys, we cannot find everyone there all over the
country. Once we have the names, we will painstakingly go through
each one on the list and go to the government and try and get
them out of detention while the court process proceeds. But the
critical point tonight is no one can be sent back to one of these
countries, it was what's critical.
People who've never had a passport cheering
Pentacles on the judge understood the irreparable harm
that would happen to individuals who will return back to their
countries, individuals who have been granted visas. Some of them
are green card holders. They're lawfully here in this country.
And just because his order was executed yesterday. They've been
caught in this limbo. And so the judge wants to make sure that
these individuals are not harmed. He
says the order was executed yesterday, but I'm maybe I'm
just wrong about how the Federal Register works.
But if it's signed in supposed to go into effect at a certain
date, maybe when they signed it that's executed, but it doesn't
mean it goes Oh, okay.
They're lawfully here in this country. And just because his
order was executed yesterday. They've been caught in this
limbo.
And by the way, for many years we've known and everybody who is
in is concerned about your personal security, and your
personal effects and your rights. We've been through this
several times when you arrive at the United States border, even
if you are a United States citizen before you are let into
the country, you have no rights. You have no rights. You have no
rights to do anything. I don't like it by the way I've been
blocked at the border so many times and they can search your
stuff they can do anything they want. You have no right
once you step foot on the United States soil you should be you're
in the country as far as I'm concerned.
Until you go through the gate officially you're not on US
soil. That's the same with an ember No, that's
what I don't like it either. I think it's I think it's
unAmerican. But
that but that is just what's been happening and that you got
to take that up with the Obama Administration Department of
Homeland Security who started doing that, and
granted visas. Some of them are green card holders. They're
lawfully here in this country. And just because his order was
extra lawfully here, but you're on probation tweeted yesterday,
to have been caught in this limbo. And so the judge wants to
make sure that these individuals are not harmed than they are
they stay on American soil that the government is forced to walk
through an argument of what whether or not they get to stay.
And it's a remarkable moment because clearly, this is an
enormous setback for President Trump's executive order.
Oh, that's the number one thing that's important, is not if what
I expect him to say is, this is clearly a victory for people who
are being persecuted unfairly. Instead, he says, this is
clearly a victory against that orange do an enormous setback is
Yeah, well, yes, that
reaction there preoccupy that's what their target is, they don't
care about these people. Thank you only care about Trump.
It's correct. That's exactly it. That's why it's top of mind.
And it's a remarkable moment, because clearly, this is an
enormous setback for President Trump's executive order. We
already have a federal judge issuing a stay a hold on the
executive order for individuals who already are in American
soil. It's the first day that we get to fight back and make sure
we can be used the courts to ensure immigrants rights in this
country.
Okay. immigrants rights, I don't think are being violated yet.
I'm not a lawyer here is Democratic Representative Adam
Smith. And he has humble he's all he also is trying to
propagate this as being a Muslim ban only Muslim ban, which I'm
sorry, it is not. But do you understand, Congressman, why a
lot of Americans believe extreme vetting of refugees coming into
the United States will protect them.
I think in large part, it's because people aren't aware of
the vetting process that already exists. And again, they're not
aware, aware, apparently, of the fact that we have not had
terrorist attacks from refugees.
I think that may be a stretch
while the other thing he says specifically
refugees. He's he
we don't have that many refugees in the country yet. He omits
they've had him in Germany, they had a terrorist attacks from
refugees in France, they've had terrorist attacks and refugees
more or less. So
there have been 20 remedy for sure. i My understanding is
there have been a I've seen two numbers 18 or 25,000. People who
have under existing rules have been stopped who are deemed to
be terrorists coming in to be up to no good. And but for him to
say no, no refugees, but certainly the wife of Omar
Mateen, though not a refugee, she was certainly here as a
guest on a on a waiver. And by the way, this is an aside,
Poland, Poland cannot get visas to the United States. Poland,
the other not one of our strongest allies. Do we not have
you know, 5000 troops now in Poland? Do we have tanks in
Poland? Poland, not a part of the Visa Waiver Program, Poland,
not allowed to just come into the United States?
Well, there's a bunch of conspiracy theories about why
that is. Well, back
to the Adam Smith, they're
of the vetting process that already exists. And again,
they're not aware, aware, apparently, of the fact that we
have not had terrorist attacks from refugees. You know, gosh,
you think of all the shootings that have gone on in the US,
most of them have been committed by US citizens. So we have a
strong vetting process in place already. So the outright ban
again sends that anti Muslim message I don't think it's going
to be helpful to US interests.
It's not an anti Muslim bill it nowhere doesn't mention Muslim
in the bill in the in the memorandum nor does it mention
that anywhere in in the bill that the memorandum is based on
Well, now there's a number of pieces of Fallout I don't know
if you have anything else, cuz I'm gonna go to sanctuary cities
for a moment only have one clip if you have anything for that.
I do have
while you're looking. It's the sanctuary cities is all a part
of the same executive order. Oh, I
didn't know that's interesting. Yeah. Once you go on with that,
and then good. Yeah, we got to Yeah, yeah. Okay.
So the sanctuary cities, the way they work, I'm going to try and
paraphrase as much as possible and honestly had
a lot of clips about this. I think we know Yeah, well.
People are very forgetful. Their sanctuary cities are cities that
have decided they will not tell the federal immigration
officials ice about any illegal As the law says, illegal alien,
that's what the law states still about any infraction they have
occurred, I believe unless it is, you know, murder. So they
will be
murderers at the point where they might even know in San
Francisco. Not so sure.
Well, New York is also interesting Mayor Bill de Blasio
was defending New York as a sanctuary city. And as the
counter to this, the administration has said, Look,
if you're not going to follow federal law, and I think this
falls under nullification, if you're not going to follow that,
if you're going to pick and choose, you're not going to
choose these, that's fine. You can do the clearly the federal
government cannot force the state what to do in this regard,
but they can turn off funding. And so that's
the old Gambit that the conservatives have always
complained about with the education system. Yeah, which is
that once you get in bed with the feds, once you get in bed
with the Fed, you end up being at their mercy. And this is the
trap that it has to do with states rights versus the Fed.
Yes. So and sandwich all these cities are all in bed, they get
all this money for roads, and is a bunch of tax money stolen from
the public and then given back is what it amounts to.
So what do you think would be the cut off the type of crime
that would be a cut off for a vote for Bill de Blasio,
specifically, to tell the Feds about any illegal alien or not
what crime? What are the lowest crimes?
I can think of a bunch of rape, I think should be reported, I
think armed robbery or burglary. Along those covers most of
these, you know, kind of middle sized felonies for sure. Not a
parking ticket.
Well, let's see what the mayor of New York says
are new sanctuary city law that you approved in October 2014.
The city of New York shields from the feds undocumented
immigrants who commit What are deemed to be lesser offenses,
but they include drunk driving and grand larceny. Why shouldn't
the city of New York comply with federal law in this area? If
you're a drunk driver, and you're an undocumented
immigrant? Why should there be a place for you in this country?
Jake, there are 170 offenses in that law that are listed as
serious and violent crimes that lead to automatic cooperation
between the city of New York and our federal partners. So any
serious and violent crime, we're going to work with them. someone
commits a minor offense. For example, right now, if you
didn't have clear definitions, like we have, let's say someone
has small amount of marijuana, let's say someone went through a
stop sign, they could be deported for that. And their
family could be torn apart. And you can have children left
behind where the breadwinner in the family is sent back to a
home country. That is not good for anyone. So we differentiate
anyone who has a violent anyone who's a serious threat to
society. We agree we'll work with the federal partners, and
they get deported. But we are not going to see. With half a
million undocumented people here. This would be true for 11
and 12 million undocumented folks in this country, the vast
majority of whom are law abiding. We're not gonna see
families torn apart over a very minor offense, but it's grand
larceny or drunk driving a very minor offense drunk driving that
does not lead to any other negative outcome. I could define
it as that
wow, I don't think I'm okay with that. Drunk driving as long as
you don't kill anybody it's okay this is new
Yeah, that's a tough one. You should probably drop the dead
already Misha probably be pushed down a little bit more.
Yeah, I do. But it just shows you that thinking I didn't kill
anybody. I just driving drunk I mean, hey, you know they finally
got some alcohol in them. They're enjoying America.
Yeah, you know, I have mixed feelings about all of this
because they will take that same argument in some other venue and
then use it differently. Or liberal wishy washy, this kind
of
well, knowing the real the real worry, of course, is the dairy
industry. who apparently used a lot of illegal workers and the
articles I'm reading today Well, you better get ready to pay more
for that ice cream. We're getting ready to pay more for
that frozen yogurt you like so much?
Yeah, this is the kind of whole great you know, reminds me. Yes.
We I was when I was taking my tour of Holland with Yan ale
Minh, who took me up the whole country. I got to see everything
including that obscure Van Gogh Museum out in the middle of
nowhere where most of the paintings are. By the giant
chicken truck went by A giant truck with chicken, some sort of
Dutch chicken. And I said, Well, as soon as I see all these
trucks and make a lot of chicken here, he says yes, he says the
Dutch have the most advanced automated chicken facilities in
the world because we've got no Mexicans. He said, He says we
had to automate because we couldn't get anyone to work in
these chicken factories. And now we have this outrageously modern
chicken facility that is just all robots like, Yeah, that's
great. Oh,
yeah, it's all indoor, you don't see anything. Same with the
cows, the hay goes in the front, and chicken and chicken and cows
come out the back, you don't know what's going on in there.
very secretive, very, very secretive. Then I have one more
piece of research I want to share on them. Now, we should go
on. Thanks, some of our executive and associate
producers, Associate Executive Producers regarding repeal and
replace a big lot of comments. Certainly, for people who are
accusatory of the program, and say, Well, you know, there is no
replacement for the repeal, there is no Obamacare
replacement for the repeal. And I think that we already
discussed that Rand Paul, who is a doctor, who was a part of the
committee making the replace legislation released, at least
his plan, which is Senate act two to two. And I found
something incredibly interesting in this proposed legislation.
But first, let me go run through some of the highlights. The what
I'm what I'm seeing a lot of is making it easy. And for health
savings accounts, which I don't know if you remember, but I had
one of those through me view, I think it was like $2,000. And
the way it worked, then is you get a credit card, which goes
through your company, because you can only do it through a
company couldn't do it privately, that's going to
change that. No. I'm telling you that's in the in the legislation
that's being proposed. Okay.
No, I'm just saying you could always do it privately until
Obamacare came along. Oh, I'm
sorry. Yes, and excellent point. And there's another and that's
where the gotcha is that I found. Thank you. So all that's
being turned back. Now we'll be up to two my problems were
everything, every single payment you made for anything, you had
to prove you had to send in receipts, you had to scan them,
you had to
email your doctors have to do now for everything to show up.
Yeah, I
think the doctors do even more. And they were rejected, and they
would reject things. And you know, really the only thing
you're getting from it, which is not to be discounted, is that
money is tax free. So it's $2,000. It's, you know, right
off the top, there's no taxes being paid on.
So any like he writes on IRA is like an IRA. The proposal
is tax rate of up to $5,000 per HSA, but also removes the
maximum allowable annual contribution. So individuals may
make unlimited contributions to their health savings account,
removes the s HSA plan type requirement to allow individuals
or types of insurance to establish and use the HSA. So it
won't will no longer be restricted the way it was, also
will allow for prescription and OTC drugs, which was not always
allowed, you will also be allowed to use that tax free
money to pay for your insurance premium. This is huge. Oh, that
has never been there. There also be bankruptcy, bankruptcy
protection to the full extent of the law, which is not 100%. As
previously under Obamacare, the Affordable Care Act which I
read, by the way, this is why I'm doing this. I read that
whole thing. We knew what to expect, more or less under the
Affordable Care Act, or is it here I was talking and then I
Oh, yeah. If you go bankrupt, then that your HSA account could
be seized under the replacement as proposed. While some states
have passed laws that exempts HSA funds from being seized in
bankruptcy, there's no federal protection for HSA funds and
bankruptcy. But the government's going to try to to protect you,
as much as part of the federal government have tried to protect
you from that will also allow periodic fees paid to medical
practitioners for access to medical care, can be used for
prepaid physician fees, direct practice concierge medicine,
really anything. There was no really the restrictions have
just been lifted. You know, a couple of the things in
Obamacare the Affordable Care Act were touted as the big
marketing message. And this is the one that I didn't realize
and it kind of blew me away when I learned and that is, well I
think the the three main In selling points of the Affordable
Care Act where two 20 million people who don't have health
care will now get health care, which is not health care, but at
least they have health care insurance. This this is now
going to change to be an expansion of Medicaid under the
proposed plan, which makes sense. So the states can then
deal with that as as they want. But the two other selling points
where your kids can stay on your plan until they're 26, which I
always thought was just additional money. I never
thought that at all. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you.
Thanks, Obama. Because you got kids who are out of the house at
21, they probably won't really have health insurance for the
first five or six years. Because the jobs they're getting the
places they work at, may not offer it. So I think it's it
behooves the insurance companies to at least have some money
because you know, being on your parents plan doesn't mean it's
free. You just on your parents plan, and you know, it could be
$500 A month extra. So to me, that was always like, yeah,
okay, great. So the insurance companies want to get that group
that's kind of hanging out there before we suck them into our
system. The third was preexisting conditions. Now,
this is still touted, certainly on the face bag as the most
important piece of the Affordable Care Act legislation.
This is not a cue I'm asking you. Do you think that's true?
Is that it? Was that a big piece of it? Like a revolutionary act?
Yeah, it was the main thing they were that's I think, with all
the protests are always about? Well, because those are the sob
stories. That's how you sell the thing? Well, oh, you know, I had
breast cancer. I don't know yet. So let's say some condition. Ms.
I have MS. And I need all this help. And I need medication. And
then I got bounced from my, my insurance company. And so I
didn't find another one. And the new one wouldn't pay for any of
this, because it's a pre existing condition. Right. And
these stories were always used to there were good stories there
were accurate. And I think it's true. And so we're gonna have a
big giant fund, because everyone's supposed to be all
gooey. And what's all been on this deal? It'd be there's more
than enough leftover money, just look at the profits of the
insurance companies to pay for these poor people that have
these situations that we should we should help them very
socialistic, by the way.
Well, very similar to what you pointed out, that the Affordable
Care Act removed a lot of these great benefits of the health
savings account, which was clearly done to behoove the
insurance companies to Yeah, let's not make that easy for
them. We don't want people paying their own way we want
them on the scam. Well, as a part of the replace, I did not
know this, when the Affordable Care Act came into existence,
the pre existing conditions protection replaced a 17 year
law under HIPAA known as the HIPAA pre existing condition
protection, which guaranteed those within a group market
could contain continuous health coverage regardless of pre
existing conditions. So I didn't know this. But you had pre
existing conditions
finition of a health market.
A group market means anything but private. So if you are part
of a group health insurance plan, through a company or AARP,
or you could you could even be the ham radio club, any group
market coverage used to have and this was what Rand Paul is
proposing and as to to to restores HIPAA, preexisting
conditions protections, prior to Obamacare, HIPAA guaranteed
those within the group market could obtain continuous health
coverage regardless of pre existing conditions. It was
always there.
It may be implementation issues here.
In what, what, in what manner?
It's like, well, yeah, but this is a disk group came in after
the HIPAA thing was passed. I mean, these guys are always
looking for the out. Oh, the insurance guy. Well,
no doubt, no doubt that we're looking for an out made another
rhyme. But I'm a little pissed
off about that, Ryman today yeah,
that's that's pretty outrageous. We think they made it look like
ah, we've done something beyond the never heard of before. You
have cancer. You get health insurance. It was always like
that.
Well, apparently it wasn't for everyone. I don't I don't know
that. Well, I don't know it either. But they didn't give it
to people. Let's put it that way.
I don't know that. I mean, I don't know that either John. I'm
sorry. All I heard.
I hear a million people come out moaning and groaning Yeah. Yes.
John on the news crying about how they get insurance come.
It's the same people, the same privilege people who are who
this is about privileged people thinking that everyone else is
getting screwed. And believing that and we have to
be on board with this.
We will find out a lot about HIPAA because we have a lot of
people in the field who understand this. And what I
would like to know is what are the big differences between the
HIPAA pre existing conditions protection and the Affordable
Care Act? Existing pre existing conditions protection? That's
what I'd like to know.
So to wrap it up, though, to skip that part. Is this a good?
Did you look to sorry, you thought it was a good idea? I
think Rand Paul's onto something. Maybe this would be
the good replacement to be better than Obamacare. Because
the fear according to do everything I've heard all these
people talking and yakking about it is that it will end up still
costing more somehow the insurance companies will still
scam the public. And they show they're reluctant to jump on
board with anything because they have they have to study it to
death.
Okay, here's my conclusion. It's not It's I haven't marked up
actually in the show notes. 899 dot no agenda notes.com. A
couple of things that are done here, as I said, increasing from
state flexibility for Medicaid. That is the idea for poor people
which Medicaid is Medicaid is intended for poor people, they
will also be instituting flexibility to conduct to
conduct Medicaid waivers. It that is regarding poor people.
That's all I see. So is that really better? I don't know. And
depends on on how much you make available and what the states do
with that money. I do like the self insurance protections, you
will now be allowed to have a stop loss insurance as a as an
employer, which is interesting. You couldn't have that
previously. And the way it doesn't even mean, okay. Okay.
So what you do is you have a small company, you have 10
people, I'm going to provide you with some health insurance,
it'll be you know, it's really on the business owner himself,
so that you can do that you can say, Alright, here's what we're
going to do for you for our health insurance plan. You don't
necessarily have to be insurance company. But you only do that,
along with a stop loss insurance, which means if you
get hit by something like some multiple cancer person in your
company, and it's a huge bill, then you can have certain like
the almost like disaster insurance, I guess, that wasn't
allowed under the Affordable Care Act. So it's it's pushing
back, responsibility, accountability, back onto the
people. And the way they want to make it cheaper, of course, is
by removing all of the interstate commerce, between
work for insurance companies, between states, they're
obviously trying to break up this monopoly, which I think is
what needs to be done. Now. Will this result immediately in lower
cost? And we'll shake out? No, I think that takes a while before
you get there before a market understands about any of this
game demand,
save any money if the thing is a collusive arrangement between
the insurance companies and the drug companies so they can rack
up the price of the drugs and the insurance companies then pay
them more money and then take a bigger debt. So they become a
bigger company because they have to charge bigger premiums to pay
for these drug companies. And they still only well we only
make 2% profit. I mean, the the scam to me has always been that
collusion. Anything else?
Yeah. That I don't think is addressed.
That doesn't address anything as far as I'm concerned.
How would you propose addressing that
Medicare, Medicare for everyone,
Medicare and Medicaid, you
Medicaid is Medicaid is not has nothing to do with Medicare.
Right.
So what is Medicare
for people? And it says it's something of a scam. If you
really look into it, Medicaid is still they take your property
and they try to make it pay anyway. Medicare is it's the
American way, man. What's your problem? Medicare is the is
socialized medicine for people over 65. Okay, right. And
everybody likes it and people will vote their representatives
out of office if they take it away. And it's in the bend the
Democrats liked to ridicule the right the right wingers because
all the old retirees who are Republicans always say you do
anything you want, but you don't touch my Social Security or my
Medicare. And those are two socialized systems and that
Democrats like to point and laugh at. Those Republicans are
a bunch of hypocrites. They don't want this. They don't want
that. But to hear that, when they have it, they like it.
Well, we'll see what happens. I personally was surprised about
the HIPAA pre existing condition protection. Yeah, that's really
a clarification. Because that was really, you know, that was
such a huge selling point. You know, just like the HSA
accounts, just swapping things in and out. So we'll see what
else comes in, of course, there will be amendments and all kinds
of things will be happening. I'm happy though, there's one thing
I like about this administration, they're
publishing, they're publishing the publishing and getting stuff
out and I can read it is also maybe it's just my could be my
imagination, it feels like the language used is not quite as
lawyer free, as it typically is, or that it was for the past
eight years. There's much more simple language, there's not. I
mean, wow, I mean, some of these Obama executive orders, they'll
be references to 15 different pieces of legislation have to
find each individual paragraph. That seems to be a lot easier
here. And there's also preamble which seems a little more
conversational. Good for me, because guess what, I'm not a
lawyer. I'm just the guy who reads in and Googles a lot,
according to well, let's play this last clip before we skip to
the end. Yep. This is Brooks on David Brooks and shields are on
the PBS. It's just become annoying. It's my number one
annoyance, because they're supposed to have these two guys
that are arguing about stuff that are supposed to be from
different perspectives. But both are from the exact same kind of
Democrat globalist New World Order agenda. Brooks is supposed
to be the Republican and shields want to be the Democrat, but
Brooks is a Trump hater and makes no sense. They should get
rid of him. He's makes funny money in the New York Times, he
doesn't need to be doing this gig. And he's, he's beside
himself doing this gig. And now, unlike these other guys who say
that Trump is lazy, Brooke says the guy's doing too much work.
And he's a maniac and he should be shot. smallness. I'm sorry.
No, I'm sorry, you baby. I was good.
Yeah, I thought you cued me. But clearly I did. Yeah.
the smallness of his preoccupation about the size of
the crowd, which he keeps returning to in a, in a rather
bizarre fashion.
How do you see this first week? David
does we were here a week ago together And it feels like a
century. And I wonder over the course of his presidency, can he
keep up this pace of news and busyness and conflict without
just exhausting everybody? And I will say among business people
I've spoken to among political finance and among Republicans on
the elites, just a great sense of being unnerved, unnerved at
the instability. Part of the he's done what he said as Mark
said he's undermined the post world international order pretty
quickly. Turning down TPP was a bill that I think economists
they would have produced hundreds of millions and
billions of dollars earnings every year for bullshit, picking
a fight with their second biggest export market. very
unnerving. I don't see the but then I think the two of the
things I'd say is the general sense of chaos and incompetence
and how you do it. Okay, you want to pick a fight with
mixing? Do you have to do it by tweet? Do you have to put a poor
word of proposals that would have Americans paying for the
wall and then sort of withdraw it and then sort of not withdraw
it? Do it in a way maximally designed to polarize Mexican
opinion against the United States? And then the final thing
is, I wonder I'm left wondering how much of this is real? Okay,
he signs a series of papers that Steve Bannon and others wrote
for him, but who's going to implement it doesn't make any
sense. We saw that with the Syrian ban in the discussion
early in the program. How much is the government just gonna let
him sign papers? And and it just goes along their merry way?
Bullshit. Now, this guy's name is just horrible. And let me
mention one thing, and we have to put back on the because
people seem to be ignoring this. Trump. Nobody wanted the TPP the
Democrats or the Republicans, it was so bad on the Democrat side
that Hillary had to change your mind and just say, I don't like
it. Yeah. And she was all for it, she thought was one of the
best things ever, which he harped on to the TPP, the Trans
Pacific Partnership. Outcome all of a sudden, guys like Brooks,
they Well, what a broad millions and billions of dollars. So
American somehow, this is a secret agreement, we have to
remember this. No one has seen this agreement. It hasn't been
published while I'm writing, but you read some of it. But the
stuff about all the way the sovereignty of the country being
violated by corporate corporations and the rest of it
where corporations have a bigger role in the world than then
countries do. And all the rest of it. There's no economist
who's actually seeing the entire document to say that it's going
to bring money or nothing it could bring zip into the country
for all we know, right? It's crazy to do put down on his dude
to throw that at Trump as a bad thing. When it Everybody on both
parties, both parties thought it was something you had to
discard. And he discarded it. And now it's bad. Yeah,
according to Brooks, yeah, of course. How does that work? How
does that work when Hillary thought was bad too,
because those guys are the true Trump derangement syndrome
people. Well, you heard this one, huh? It's annoying guys.
Very annoying. Meanwhile, and then we'll get into our breaks
and you brought up Mexico, former president of Mexico,
Vincent J. Fox, he did have something to say about Trump as
a former guy, because he hates Trump hates white people.
Please, please don't say that. Because that's some style. We're
not paying for that wall. Not now. Not ever. Let me say yes,
we are have been harmed. We don't like that. By why you see
all sitting on the presidential chair,
a white us CEO sitting on the presidential chair. Now you go.
Give me this to get cola for that obvious racism.
Because the people who are talking to him are all on board
with white guilt, white privilege, white gold dudes.
They're all on board with it. We are the white men are more hated
than Donald Trump.
Well, according to some people, white women are getting in that
same they're getting in that same position. last clip that I
have. All right. This is joy read at the DNC when they they
have this meeting of all these people, you can have other
clips, I'm sure there's not the one you have. They have all
these people. They all want to be the head of the DNC and then
mostly, it's called dem in color meeting gets they won. Oh, no,
they do not want YT. And they want the Democrat Party is
actually going to kind of become a minority, just only Latinos
and blacks. And Chinese white
Democrats are going to be in our camp pretty soon. Yes. With
white old white guys. Yeah. Oh,
okay. Well, let's play this. And you'll hear a good example. This
is
actually beautiful. So there is a blowback of epic proportions
from the very same people who brought you who brought you
white privilege. These people are now being ousted because of
their white privilege. This fantastic. Marika
Dixon Maher lines on statistics, I'm gonna come back to even more
statistics because I do love a number. And the reality is that
that sounds really good and you all sound very ecumenical. And I
think that's important, but ecumenical.
What does this word mean? Document.
They're all they're all. It's a it's a kind of it's a, it's a
term that refers to a bunch of people with different opinions,
slightly different opinions, but it all kind of in in a larger
agreement.
Okay, sounds really good. And you all sound very ecumenical.
And I think that's important. But we also know that racially
polarized voting is the reality in the United States. And that
it's just a fact. Right? And that Democrats have invested
heavily in trying to win over. And the Clinton campaign
invested heavily in trying to win over, particularly white
college educated women, they invested their resources there.
And my question, which all of you very skillfully evaded, was
whether they made a mistake in not devoting more resources. A
man was very direct, and Jamie, who were very direct, so I'll
come to those who didn't answer directly. I think Jammu and
Jamie said, yeah, they made a mistake. Right. But I'm gonna
come back, Sally to you again, because the question is, whether
or not the DNC D Triple C, D, SCC and the Clinton campaign
were in error in devoting so many television commercials to
our kids are watching not enough television commercials to
African American radio, as Keith Ellison said, so many resources
to trying to win over, you know, white voters in Arizona and
poach additional Republican voters based on Donald Trump's
you know, poor standing among Americans and not enough in GOTV
in Cleveland, whether or not that was an error.
I definitely think that the way that those resources were
targeted, didn't work. We didn't win the election at the end of
the day.
Oh, thank goodness, we have an end of
the day. She's the one who says they gotta tell ya to shut up.
That woman is never in all these conversations, and I'm done. Do
they ever say you know, maybe we had a flawed candidate?
No, of course not. Why would we say that? It's everyone's fault
except the candidate our party is our opinion. We couldn't have
done it wrong. Is because of hate.
Now it's the white college educated women who voted mostly
for Trump. Yeah, that are like why we will just ditch them
because they're no good. It was just we should get more black
votes out. That's unbelievable.
No, it's completely believable. Sadly, it's just yeah, well we
welcome all the white women then you two are now shunned. Hey
Whitey, over to Whitey Ville? Why do you get shut up? I think
White should not be allowed to vote. Let's do that. Let's give
us 40 years of no votes We'll even it out it'd be fair. And
with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the
morning to you John soon as he stands for chicken truck Devorah
in the morning, you Mr. Adam curry in the morning on a ship
at sea boots on the ground feeding the air subs in the
water all the dames knights Hey, and
in the morning to all of our artists who are happy to
contribute to the program as part of their value for value.
It's a no it's the no agenda Art Generator generator.com for
Episode Eight, nine or eight chain of Lies We had a nice
piece of art that came to us from comic strip blogger who
brought us the that was the the crazy tangerine. Yeah, yeah, it
was nice.
It's a beverage it was a joke of the punch line it had meaning it
would relate it to the show.
It was good. Good. And thank you to everyone who does that for
us. No agenda are generated. I come in the morning to the chat
room. Chat Room, I do want you to know that you're all
comedians you're all very funny. When new listeners come in and
they listen to the stream and they see you in the chat room.
That's part of the reason why we get the Trump protection squad
thing go on here because a lot of you are rabid. Stop it. Now
let's thanks some people John, your rabid what like crazy over
the top Trump supporters they are yeah there's many of them in
the chat room Sure.
Sure. As you know, I don't go to the chat now but
as you know I'm there because sometimes they're helpful as a
producer and they give me corrections information and
stuff that we need to know
that you theory okay. Oh here we go. Hi, John. And Adam. This is
from Brad read Walker and spring Texas. He's the one and only
segment producer for the show. We don't have a lot of
contributions for some reason I think hopefully I'm hoping that
everyone's just waiting for show 900 which is next show and
they're going to donate because they didn't donate even though I
put a note on the on the newsletter saying hey, we're
didn't get no donations here today. And we weren't Oh, and we
didn't know that that didn't help either. Email to follow
with accounting okay, but this will complete my long journey
tonight had put some to account for pay pills cuts some to add
extra money. In doing my preliminary Tax Review, I
discovered we had moved into a 33% tax bracket, which means
you're doing well. And though this must surely be assigned to
donate and complete my knighthood Yes. 33 I've been
donating one to 1212 monthly for a few years now with a couple of
50s mixed in love the show in all the insight the two of you
weekly bum and the two of you add to the weekly bombardment of
propaganda from the MSN MSM a due to my love of collecting and
drinking mostly drinking red wine please dump me sir Red
Beard night of the uncorked bottle oh okay like a LG why to
to the head and can you see the juice
and just so you know, there's never a corking fee here at the
no agenda show.
Can you receive that? Karma
called corkage, corkage corkage corkage
corkage fee. Roderick Lenhart Oh, we have sorry, to executive
producers. That's right, two executive producers and one
associate Roderick Lenhart to 333 33. And it's lenhard.
Roderick less what it looks like ITM gents from glorious
Charlotte, North Carolina epicenter of the World Wide
debate on who can pee where I wanted to thank you for your
continued hard work deconstructing the media and
more and more. As more and more outlets are silenced either
directly or indirectly. Programs like this are even more
essential. There was silence because somebody will cut off
their advertisements because they're going with advertising
and they they maybe have some something that offends and
advertisers I'm not going to I don't think you know, and there
were somebody out in the audience will ya get an
advertiser saying not to support this is the problem? Don't you
think? Yes, of
course it is.
Programs like this are even more essential to maintain an even
stream of quality information. I was afraid you might be a little
light on donations for 899 Hey, hey, right. Nailed it given the
triple producer credit on 900 So here's some loot. I want to call
out to boners
Why is it boners are douchebags Well, I don't have a bone. Okay,
you don't have a boner thing. Okay. Ken and Rick douchebag
Ricky I guess who loved the show but have yet to donate please
give me a Yoko mon Thank you get out of my vagina look at all the
Jews and to delicious to believe thanks again soon to be night
Roderick
All right I think we can handle that for you by requests hit me
now my oh my gosh Can you see that juice
almost good delicious to believe my friend
karma
it's a new favorite
was my favorite sir fish to under $9 surface here fantastic
shows lately no other source is reporting what you guys do. Why?
Who knows? However I do like to globalist versus this really
Howard's not the right word should be and and I do like to
globalist versus the nationalist hypothesis. Thank you
for correcting our donors grammar
sorry it's really nice of you. Why not? Now is this in the same
note because they can't tell from my spreadsheet
I what I what I have is book report must read Thomas souls
intellectuals in society 2009 It explains it all. So we should
put that in the book club. I have not read that have you
know, I haven't been I've always been a fan of soul even though
he's a jerk. He when I was writing op ed for the San
Francisco Examiner, he was also in the coming in through the
syndicate. And he never take a call or you wouldn't talk to
anybody. It's just a very standoffish guy what to do, but
this stuff is this material is fantastic. He's black, and
everyone will talk bring him up as any sort of a character to
talk to you. I think part of the reason is he may be a irascible
and not interested in doing so you never see him on a talk
show.
Okay, well, Ray, you never see us on a talk show either.
Yeah, we used to you're on the ground. Guys talk show all the
time. When talk show The Infowars
Infowars the view now. Okay, you know what I mean? I found the ad
agency might help. I heard I found a murder someone sent me a
version of the Michael Jackson MSNBC MSNBC clip. Finally got
that I put in the show. It's the one
you somehow that's valuable that you somehow lost in your
archives.
Yeah, it's worse because this is it's the clip but it's the clip
where we're also talking over it but it's cut down if you want to
hear it's 50 seconds if you want to hear it. I always like to
clip this is when Michael Jackson passed away. MSNBC calm
it's a long clip where they talk about MTV and all this bullcrap.
There seems to be an insatiable appetite
for this.
Yes, absolutely. And I'm amazed that you're showing the footage
and everyone seems to be showing the footage of these rehearsals
just two days before. Here's a guy who clearly was in great
physical shape. He had 3040 concerts coming up in the auteur
Arena in London. That's a huge production, you have to be
preparing yourself a year in advance, at least physically.
You can't put on a show like that without an enormous
insurance coverage, which includes a tremendous amount of
physical testing so I'm amazed at what happened that I know
that there's breaking news about some form of medical medicinal
drugs that were found in his home quite by family means that
no one is looking at a murder angle on this. We shall see that
pregnant pause boom and I was out Yeah. Start the clip music
dude. All right, we shall see Duman and never heard from him
again never know. Invited by I don't think it'd be much of a
pundit ever. I do want to thank Fred and Lynn for we in the
game. Um, no, of course not playing the game. I might have
to though you never know. He's donated it was our last that was
our last donation for the associates. So Lynn and Fred
they send me I don't know if you got anything from them. They
sent me a beautiful I have to make take a picture of this. A
Dutch Delft blue. It's kind of like a little plate. And it has
been has the bed is made in Delft. It's made in the
Netherlands hand painted with a little Delft blue designs in the
middle of windmill and it says coins of the Netherlands and it
has all The Old Dutch guilder the Gilder denomination the two
and a half Gilder the 50 cent the five cent 10 cent 25 cent
the Gilder. It's a nice little piece I guess you didn't get a
no, no, I didn't based on your response you didn't get anything
I didn't get I don't have the name of the of the producer who
sent this because it's downstairs, but he sent me a
bunch of podcasting buttons. You get the podcast? Oh, I didn't
get it. Podcasting button is a big giant button. asked me about
my big ones. I'll tweet it out. You probably guessed common,
instead says unless you send them all to me expecting me to
send half to you. It says hello, I'm a podcaster ask me about my
podcast.
I need I need. I need them. That's fantastic. All right, if
I thank you so much. Thank you to our executive producers, our
Associate Executive Producers shortlist today. Also, it'll be
a short list for 50 and above, which we'll be doing later on.
But this is part of the system the way it's supposed to work
value for value. If you find value, then you return the value
is any way you can. And we again thank our executive and
Associate Executive Producers remember another show coming up
on Thursdays
at VO red.org/and. A maybe you
could take some of the information you learned on
today's show and go out and propagate the formula with it.
Our formula is this. We go out, we get people in the mouth shut
us.
Right, remember to take your meds
I was I was watching a C span. And they had one of those little
meetings that I love when they have them this one of these kind
of Think Tank organizations and they have these experts up
there. And they just use a bunch of professionals in there asking
him questions back and forth. Anyway, I just thought this was
interesting because it just confirmed everything we said on
the show. And something that the mainstream media refused to even
discuss, which is the icy report the intelligence community
report on the Russian hacking with the one disclaimer in there
the NSA saying they had moderate confidence. This is a guy who's
as Lcia guy who used to be the head
of Russia. Okay, it's Robert David Steele.
It is George Bibi. Great.
I have another old CIA guy. Perfect.
Okay, well, let's listen to George BB. Who is a very erudite
guy, and he's knows the ropes and how things should be done.
And he uses the word I guess we've net we didn't use when we
did the exact same analysis, which is red flag. And this is
George on the ISC report.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for the presentations. My
question is for George BV. And it pushes a little further on
the area that
Karen what? I'm sorry, John, what does the setting of this
this is a speech?
No, no, no, this is one of those closed meeting closed.
Oh, so this is something that wasn't supposed to get out? Is
this?
No, no, it was supposed to get out. But it's one of those who
sees it. I got you.
Karen de Yong brought up but also takes us back to Graham
Allison's Excellent question, which is still on the floor, and
questions about the dossier and all of that. But I wanted to ask
you to give us your judgment as an intelligence professional.
How the statement by the intelligence community is with
all of the caveats you put in, but also all of the warnings you
put in all the criticism he put in? How could this have
happened?
Well, I really don't know the answer to that. I think the
simplest explanation is that they have some very conclusive
classified evidence, which is driven their their judgments.
That's the easiest thing to do. I'm a little skeptical that
that's the case. Why is that? A couple of things. One in the
intelligence community report itself. There's an interesting
caveat. The NSA had only moderate content in one of the
reports significant judgments. That's a red flag. And then the
thing, the National Security Agency, yes, the National
Security Agency. That suggests to me that the kind of evidence
that they've gotten in the classified world is not all that
conclusive. So that's number one. The second thing is given
the political atmosphere that we're experiencing now in
Washington, which I think Paul has is very accurately to
described, and the degree to which we're able to keep these
sorts of things secret genuinely in that atmosphere. I'm
suspicious that if we really had that kind of evidence in the
classified world that we would know that either directly or
indirectly in the public domain, so I suspect that we really
don't have that kind of conclusive evidence in the
classified world. So now, how do we end up with a report that we
wound up with a lot of potential explanations, as mentioned
earlier, that cognitive bias tendencies that we all share,
that that might explain a lot of all of this, the pressures that
can occur bureaucratically, and organizationally, time deadlines
that are underway, the separation of sets of expertise
within the community, all of that may have had a role to play
in all of this, but I'm speculating. Wait, wait,
there's political stuff going on in the intelligence community?
Oh, don't say, I would
have never guessed that's impossible. Now, if you want to
go to yours, you want to play he also has some some thoughts on
the dossier.
Not so let's hear the day you mean the dossier of the bed
wedding dossier,
the bed wedding guy. Yeah.
Back to Graham's question.
Yes. The dossier. There for Senator. Apparently not. On the
dossier. I think there are a couple of questions here. One is
how do you actually that something like this hard thing
to do? CIA would typically approach this by looking at the
sourcing and sub sourcing very critically, it's impossible to
do really, in this case, the next case would be looking for
facts that are reporting this that you can verify, you know,
was so and so in a particular place at a certain time that's
verifiable, it only gets you so far, though, and really
investigating the veracity of the claims. And in this alleged
report, which I have not actually seen, by the way, there
is a couple of things that make me skeptical about the
information that's in it, though. One, the the target, the
source of some of these claims is supposedly the Russian
presidential administration. That is a very hard intelligence
target. intelligence organizations around the world
devote themselves to trying to penetrate that target, very,
very hard to do. So we're led to believe that a private
individual running a security firm hired to dig up dirt is
able to penetrate that hard target using his own sources may
be so I'm skeptical. Second thing to note here, Moscow for
anybody that's been there is good at nothing. Beyond
generating lots and lots of rumors, and a lot of these
rumors are generated precisely because the people in these
closed circles of decision making are not very transparent
about what's going on. And in the absence of heart
information, people tend to gossip a lot about what's going
on, really easy to tap into that gossip network. Now, now, the
question is, gee, am I getting, you know, rumor? Or am I getting
solid information here? You know, we have no basis for
judging but I suspect the most likely explanation here is
somebody that tapped into the very active Moscow rumor mill
and circulated what what's out there on.
Hmm, there you have it. Well, Theresa May weighed in the other
day about the dossier and specifically about Chris steel,
the four was mi five, mi six mi six guy mi six mi six guys, you
know, it's a long standing position that we don't comment
on such matters, but I think what from everything that you
will have seen, it is absolutely clear that the individual who
produced this dossier has not worked for the UK government for
years.
Oh, okay. So back off back off. We got nothing to do with that.
I had a I found a another former CIA agent. This would be Kate
former Case Officer Robert David Steele. He was an RT I have to
say that because of course it's our tea. And you know, you play
clips from our tea. You know what you are?
His he the other guy's name is steel. Are they related?
Oh, I don't believe so. Interesting. But I've seen this
guy around before. But I think he does show up on RT a number
of times, but he had a different take on Trump's election
different take on the so called hacking. What really happened
and he summed it up neatly here.
So Trump has As a chance to reset everything he talked about
how the system is rigged. It's not just campaign finance
reform. It's paper ballots. One of the reasons Trump won by
accident was because Hillary Clinton started talking about
the Russians too soon. And it led to the closure of the
electronic vote tampering that she used against Bernie Sanders.
Hillary Clinton, it's on record. Stanford University has studied
this and documented it Hillary Clinton stole 13 primaries from
Bernie Sanders. Using electronic ballot tampering. The Russians
did not hack the election, Hillary Clinton hacked the
election and lost because that door was closed at the very end.
That sounds very reasonable to me. Wow,
that sounds Clip of the Day. Thank you. Now, this brings us
back I actually kind of buy into that a little bit a little bit.
Because of the of the New York ballots, especially the ones
where they're, all of a sudden, no, dole was Brooklyn. I think
the whole number of pre precincts got no votes coming in
at all, and then we're all gonna go to Bernie. And no, no, you
get nothing zip. Bernie made a little fuss. But he didn't make
a big fuss, you know, and some news guys picked it up and
talked about a little bit made a little fuss, but it didn't make
a big fuss and it would just went on. I think that's a very
funny and ironic conclusion that this. Yeah, highest of all sorts
of humor.
And even if, even if it wasn't meant to be funny, it fits
perfectly. Yeah, she blew it. She started yapping about the
Russians too early. Then they had to they couldn't do their
own voter fraud, which of course, is gotta be rampant.
It's gotta be we're America. It's what we do.
Well, especially with those electronic machines. Yeah, well,
we've
complained about that a lot. All right, here he is. Oh, yes.
Another interesting point he made. Check it out.
Trump is a wildcard. Trump is a businessman. Trump already
understands that, for example, we're paying too much for Boeing
and Lockheed and Northrop Grumman. He's coming at this
with a fresh perspective. He did not expect to win. He has
replaced the political elites with business and military
elites. We've had a counter coup in the United States, we have
successfully defeated the coup that was being led by Wall
Street and Hillary Clinton on China and John Brennan. So it's
up to Trump. My personal feeling is that if Trump does not pass
an Electoral Reform Act in the next 90 days, he will not finish
his term. He will leave the why is that what does the Electoral
Reform Act do? And
why is it so important to his his presidency?
The Electoral Reform Act does a number of things. But one of the
most important is that it frees the members from the bribery and
the blackmail. That is pervasive in US politics. Wayne Madsen is
one of my favorite investigative journalists. And he published
recently a piece on how John McCain and Lindsey Graham had
been blackmailed by CIA. And that is why they've been so anti
Russia. Now, because of Wayne's piece. And because of some other
things that I and a few others have done. Trump has gone back
to McCain, McCain is now being if you will counter black males.
And so he's softening and he's saying, well, now I'm leaning
toward Rex Tillerson, which is exactly what he better do if he
wants to finish his term out. I think Trump has the capacity to
free the members from their dependency on foreign money,
particularly Saudi Arabian and Israeli and Wall Street money.
Beyond that, he has to show the Sandinistas center needs the
Libertarians and the independence that they have a
president who really means it.
I like the term Sandinistas. I
hadn't heard that word is.
It's so I looked at the voter Reform Act of 2016. I could not
parse from it what he is saying about well, I don't know if it's
in this next clip, but the general idea is that it was
really only 47% percent of the eligible voting public who voted
at all. And of that, you know, I guess 24% went to Hillary, you
know, it was it was all very small margins. And somehow with
this act, and again, I read it and I, I just couldn't parse it
to his words, how that would then free everyone will
basically break up the two party system, quote, unquote, two
party system. I'm not sure how that would work. Someone out
there far smarter than us can maybe help us.
I don't see how I can do it.
I didn't see it. But I did like what he said that because that
is a call back to John Kerry, that if he doesn't get that
done, he'll be gone before his term is up. I don't know. But
there's something brewing in that area.
Well, that's also played Are you reading the same topic? Gay in
on the threats to Trump You're getting a
hold on one guy is coming. We gotta we gotta we gotta we gotta
roll ahead that guy. Right everybody we love her here on
the show. Let's hear what she has to say. I have thought
an awful lot about blowing up the White House, but I know
that this won't change anything
right or smashed windows and set things on fire. But with some
the anger took a more morbid turn. Death wishes for Trump
started pouring in. Social media director of a new side publicly
expressed his hope for the President to die soon as school
teacher was filmed in her classroom mockingly shooting
President Donald Trump as a live feed was projected of his
inauguration ceremony. The Secret Service is probing a
woman in Kentucky who tweeted a call for someone to assassinate
the president, some may consider a Deathwish to the president the
form of protest, others don't.
It's being owned by people boldface names in the in the
news and celebrities who normally would not ever say
something like this. So it's, I think, clearly a reflection on
the highly polarized state of the United States at this point.
Regardless of
one's position on Trump's policies. There's something very
wrong about people publicizing their desire for the President
to die, especially considering the US has a history of leaders
assassinations. In Washington, I'm going to shut down.
My memory is not the best in the world. But I do recall after
President Obama was inaugurated police were saying that they
would rough you up if you said anything negative about the
president. They were planning
Reagan got elected he was shot within probably the first six
months.
You know, those Dutch douchebags on the face bag? The ones who
are here on Oh, one visas and tourist visas and you know, they
have their little club and of course, by osmosis I get sucked
into their face back feet. And I don't say anything about it,
because I want to read it during the inauguration, you know what
they were posting? Hey, where's that sniper? God, and they're
here as visitors, you know, the on visa decks.
You're gonna be bumped now you're done. I'm done. With that
today. Listen to the show. And please.
final clip from this former CIA Case Officer Robert David
Steele. He's going to deconstruct the three hacks that
are really in play here in this entire scenario.
DNC was never properly investigated. They wouldn't
allow the FBI to get to their computers. And in fact, the FBI
was simply given secondhand information from CrowdStrike and
others who are anti Russian technocrats techniques that are
in the pockets of Hillary Clinton and the
neoconservatives. So it was never proven. And in fact,
Donald Trump to his credit called Julian Assange and said,
Tell me to my face tell me directly, and Julian Assange
repeated to Donald Trump. The Russians did not give us this
stuff. Now. Podesta, the FBI and the CIA are asking us to believe
that a Romanian taxi driver using antiquated equipment who
has had some modest success against celebrities, perhaps
he's after you next is being run by Russian national
intelligence. That's absolutely absurd. In fact, the man was in
jail here in in Virginia, and he was found to be completely what
he said he was and he was returned to Romania to serve his
prison sentence there. He is not a Russian state agents. This is
Lucifer. Yes, go suffer. And by the way, people get confused
Lucifer, 2.0 and Lucifer the same person.
No, I didn't think that was true.
I always thought it was true. But you always said it wasn't
I thought it wasn't but he's saying are you actually said
there's some confusion about it. So he says it is the same person
who
suffer and by the way, people get confused. Gusa for 2.0 and
Gousto. For the same person. Okay, if you if you look that
up, it's not completely clear. Okay, so the third big leak was
the Anthony Weiner laptop that had allegedly 650,000 emails
from home Aventine. She was introduced to Hillary Clinton as
a very, very young girl. Hillary Clinton fell in love with her
and has been with Hillary Clinton ever since. Those emails
although the FBI sequestered that computer very quickly, they
were enough to make the New York Police Department very angry,
because they had explicit proof of Hillary Clinton sending
classified information back to IP addresses in Saudi Arabia and
Qatar. They had explicit proof of Hillary Clinton with pay to
play I mean, Hillary Clinton sold Syria and Yemen to Saudi
Arabia. And John Brennan has been her executive agent for
essentially doing regime change in Syria and further
destabilizing Yemen. I mean, really, Brandon should be in an
International Court under indictment for being a war
criminal.
Yeah, we kind of forget about the the Wiener stuff that's kind
of drifted off the radar, didn't it? Yeah, it's
because it was sequestered as he says, yeah. You know, they like
to keep this stuff in abeyance. You know if we need it. We use
it when we need it. You know,
how people always talk a little bit differently when they're on
a podcast. Matt Taibbi of Rolling Stone, we played a
couple clips. And he was what was that was Canadian
television. I think Canadia CBC,
and you know, when you're overseas, you could also say
what you want to know.
Yeah, but it but it wasn't quite as it's just a different it's
almost a different tune what he's saying now, he was kind of
cagey like, well, you know, we don't exactly have all the
information but and, actually, this wasn't a podcast worse than
a podcast. He shows up on Sirius XM worse than a podcast is worse
than a podcast Sirius
XM worse than a podcast. That's
your bumper sticker. Right there.
I've been very skeptical about this publicly.
No, not that skeptical. Mr. aiibi said from
the beginning that I don't believe that I don't think we
should just openly believe the assessments of people in the
intelligence community and and when willing to believe the the
idea that they they were behind the hack of the DNC, you know,
there's there's some evidence for that. I've talked to people
who are cyber experts, but even they really are only making a
circumstantial case about the probable origin of where that's
coming from. Trump himself has said that he believed that that
was Russia. But the rest of it, you know, this idea that there
was a Manchurian Candidate story and that they had a collusive
agreement. Like, you know, I think that's that stuff was off
for me totally out to lunch. And, you know, that dossier that
that came out, having lived in Russia, like since when is the
Kremlin like a high school cafeteria, where you can
overhear what everybody's saying, I mean, they were in a
much tighter ship than that if they if they actually had
something like that, they would keep it a lot, a lot closer to
their best
wish you would write like that, that would be so honest of him.
One short stick with these a liberal is of the right, but he
was a little a little, you know, you can't do anything that even
remotely says anything positive, that would mean that could be
interpreted by the other side of the divide of the polarized
globalist versus nationalist agendas. II can't do it, he
loses audience. Well, he's
trying they talk to
the actual people investigated the hacks, you know, I don't
know, but I mean, they add up the signatures, they do things
they do seem to be not unlike actual physical evidence, and
that they have a DNA they have, they have an imprint, and they
know that where their, their, their internet protocols are,
and then they see the signatures that are similar. And certainly
sure, but it's a little bit like the standard approved
protocols not the same as Internet Protocol address.
That's
why I wanted you to hear this clip. I thought that was so
funny. I love the eyelids. Sure,
but it's a little bit late. It was back for love. It is great.
All right, and then they see the signatures that are similar and
certainly
sure, but it's a little bit like like that the standard of proof
for for that did I miss it? I must have
missed it. Yeah, it's back further
add up the signatures they do seems they do seem to be not
unlike actual physical evidence and that they have a DNA they
have a they have an imprint and they know that people were
there, their their internet protocols are and then they see
the city
where their internet protocols are. Have you have you hugged
your Internet Protocol today?
He doesn't know what he's talking about with a signature.
And
I'd love that ensures that are similar. And certainly
sure, but it's a little bit like, like that the standard of
proof for that is that you have a series of indications that
lead to a conclusion. And you have you still have to make a
qualitative assessment at the end of all those things, then
it's it's it's just not as strong as a whistleblower saying
I was in on it. I did this, you know what I'm saying? Like,
like, there are different levels of proof.
No, okay. There's I guess, just like there's different levels of
facts.
Yeah, yeah, that's exactly it.
The the I know, you saw this, the loyalty test meme is
spreading as predicted.
The is you talked about this on the last show?
Yes. And you said that you didn't see that happening? No, I
still haven't seen it happening. Okay, here's the BBC.
I think it's actually more sinister than just just a lie to
the public. And I think what's happening is that it's
interesting that Trump sent Sean out to say that I think some
sometimes children do this. He's testing their loyalty, because
the crowd was obviously my smaller than it then it wants
that. So by sending Shawn out he's testing his loyalty. He is
and that's how you hold the power. Then if you make somebody
lie, then you hold power over them.
What? That's the meme. like children. She did add that
that's a new bid. I like it. I like it. You're me. So if you if
you force people to go out and live for you, you have control
over them.
Yeah, that's all it takes. I think has anyone ever heard this
Shawn guy? That guy's a maniac. He is he's pretty. He's pretty
high energy. I like it, though. Makes I get the kit. I get the
biggest kick out of the Nikki Haley situation.
Yeah, no. So she's going she is going to be the ambassador to
the United Nations.
Yes. And she I don't think she was a Trump supporter at first,
but she sounds sure sounds like the right mentality for it. But
no, none of that mainstream media because everybody likes
her. And she's also a woman. She can't say anything too bad. Oh,
by me, you can but you can't overdo it. Because she's a
woman. Yes. And so she comes out with this crazy comment. I
thought it was hilarious. You go,
the President's ambassador to the UN put every nation on
notice today, Nikki Haley said the US wants value for its un
commitments. And she chose these words as her first greeting in
her new post. And the
way that will show value is to show our strength, show our
voice, have the backs of our allies, and make sure that our
allies have our back as well. For those that don't have our
back. We're taking names, we will make points to respond to
that accordingly.
Ambassador Nikki Haley,
whoa. She's taking names and kicking ass is what's going
down.
Yeah, I thought that was fantastic. So apparently,
the idea what I understand is, the US will cut back its funding
of the United Nations. But I've heard 40% Well, here's the
defunding clip. Oh, hold on a second. Funding? Yes. I've been
wanting to hear this address.
The UN Secretary General Ban Ki Moon pretty much said that Saudi
Arabia had pressured him to to remove them from a healer.
I'm sorry, it says defunding the UN. Oh, I'm sorry. Yes. There's
to your right. My mistake.
Donald Trump's administration is reportedly drawing up an
executive order to significantly reduce America's funding for the
United Nations and also other international organizations. The
White House is said to be seeking an overall 40% cut in
funding. Trump's previously been extremely critical of the UN.
The UN has such tremendous potential, not living up to its
potential there is such tremendous potential, but it is
not living up when you see the United Nation solving problems.
They don't they cause problems. So if it lives up to the
potential, it's a great thing. And if it doesn't, it's a waste
of
time and money. Now, Trump, this is an example of Trump and his
tripling of saying Say something United Nations has tremendous
potential, the United Nations has tremendous potential. Yes,
tremendous third time, and it's like he does this on Sunday
trying to make a point or brainwash us. I'm not upset
whenever you say something three times. That's when people
remember it, such as Optima tax relief. They do that that's an
example all the time they want to need
100 Cars for Kids, or escorts for canines.
The commercial goes like this, did you know that you can pay
off your credit card, don't pay the full amount optic Optima tax
relief. That's right Optima tax relief, you can get that at
Optima tax relief, boom, Optima tax relief, and they do a jingle
which is genius right after that. That's why it works.
Well, he does just some elearning into some
jingle after that. He should do a jingle. She has a little
jingle
machine. There's a little pocket you can play. But I think this
is a and I think he makes a good point. They cause more trouble
than they, you know, that like the douchebag thing that
happened in Haiti? Well, there's also it wouldn't take credit for
there's also some thinking now that this is a concerted effort
to bankrupt Germany, who currently are at about 1% of
their GDP and to move it up to 2% GDP, which is the requirement
for the United for NATO United Nations. That could be a serious
financial issue. But that's just that's just another way of
looking at it. Yeah, it's interesting. I want to say
something about the First Amendment Defense Act, which is
now in play again. And I bring this up. Well, of course, I've
been looking at all the legislation stuff that's
floating around that have people freaking out. And the LGBT ally
should say really, the LGBTQ IAP community is freaking out about
the first event In the Defense Act and headlines, such as
sweeping bill will institutionalize discrimination
against LGBT. And I wanted to discuss briefly and I think I'm
gonna need your help, what discrimination laws there are
currently in United States and how it fits in with this or not.
And the first was really a question I have for you the
Civil Rights Act. I think I remember you telling me that
that was never signed or ratified. No, the equal rights
and equal rights rights amendment. Okay. What is
different from the Equal Rights Amendment versus the Civil
Rights Act is that what is the
boom do Civil Rights Act was about blacks and the equal
rights of man is about women. Okay.
What is okay, let's go to the civil Civil Rights Act and which
was signed? That's good. What exactly did that outlaw? Or
forbid, because I, what I found is different than I thought it
was. And I'll just tell you think segregation
was one of the issues the that it was targeted. I think
segregation was targeted specifically. And I think it was
about the schools, mostly,
the school is actually there was no legislation for schools. As
I've read the ad, the bill, there was a recommendation and
requirement requests, but there was no legal basis to
desegregate schools, although, of course, that did happen,
luckily. But it was mainly about businesses involved in
interstate commerce. And I'm not quite sure how that's a part of
it. But that means hotels, restaurants, public places where
people go, and I liken this a lot to the schools would be
included public schools could be included, yes, not private or
public. That also, it's very, very analogous to the American
with Disabilities Act, where now you know that a hospital or a
restaurant has to adhere to the ADEA because they serve
everybody. And you may not discriminate anyone from staying
in a hotel, or eating at a restaurant or I think movie
theaters, you know, places where the public goes, this does not
adhere towards private businesses that are not part of
interstate commerce. So let's just take an example. An ice
cream parlor, let's take a better example. A wedding cake
shop, absolutely has the right is not a vile, it's not nice,
but it's not a violation of the Civil Rights Act to say, No, I
don't want to serve you. You can also say no shoes, no shirt, no
service, we reserve the right to not serve anybody. This is
almost an every every establishment, they have this
sign. And the First Amendment Defense Act somehow has been
misconstrued into this. Now you can discriminate against gays.
Whereas you are absolutely allowed to refuse service to
anybody if you do not fall under the guise of interstate commerce
public place where where public people come to do in public
people come to do things. First Amendment Defense Act, does what
it really doesn't like
people also known as the public the
public. Yes, I'll just read this briefly. That First Amendment
Defense Act prohibits the federal government from taking
discriminatory action against a person on the basis that such
person believes or acts in accordance with a religious
belief or moral conviction that one marriage is or should be
recognized as the union of one man and one woman or two sexual
relations are properly reserved to such a marriage. And it
defines discriminatory action as any federal government action to
discriminate against a person with such beliefs or
convictions, such as altering the federal tax treatment,
disallowing a deduction of any charitable contribution,
withhold, reduce, exclude, terminate, otherwise deny any
federal grant, withhold reduced exclude terminate otherwise deny
any benefit under federal benefit program. So what is
being said here is, if you if it doesn't fit under this has to be
if it does not fit under the Civil Rights Act, you have the
right to do that, and the government may not penalize you
for it. Now people may not like this, that they can be
discriminated against but anybody can be black people,
brown people, yellow people, old white people, and it's coming
will be asked to leave establishments because we're not
going to serve you and that is okay. And you have that right to
do that. There is no such thing in the United States where you
cannot discriminate in a private business. And people are
freaking out about it and being told something untrue. That no
you can just discriminate against gays we know it No, you
can not be kicked out of a restaurant you can not be kicked
out of a hotel, anything It is where the public goes. You can
already under existing law. But now the only thing that's been
stipulated here, which is really a jerk off thing, as far as I'm
concerned, Oh, okay. You know, so then the IRS can't penalize
you.
Well, I think this came about from the IRS debacle. Of course
it did, of course. And that's all it really is.
It's separate. It's Yes. But it's being you, you'll see it's
being shouted around as gays are going to die in America.
Well, that's kind of, to me, it's an eye roller.
I'm out. I'm in the trenches, John. I'm seeing it.
Or let's go to the women's march that took place the women's life
March.
And this was the this was the pro life,
the pro life when it took place. This is the play the intro clip.
This is women's life March, because there's a little piece
of information here that I didn't realize this and I'm
sorry, did you read that you did the right thing. I never knew
this.
This was the 44th march for life. But it helped special
significance for 10s of 1000s of anti abortion activists with the
coming of a Republican president in Congress. For the this year,
it's even more different. We're making history, many arrived in
groups from churches and schools. After long bus rides.
President Trump began their day with a tweet saying to all of
you marching, you have my full support. And at a rally before
the March, a sitting Vice President addressed the annual
gathering for the first time because of all of you
guys got her voice of a politician. Now they were they
had a bunch of women bitching about the fact that they weren't
even allowed to show up at the Women's March because they were
pro life. pro life women aren't women. And so that was an
interesting complaint. But the only reason this got any
coverage at all is because of the Trump meeting with David
Muir, which was this interview that was done on ABC first and
here's what's interesting about that, and then Trump bitched
about this, and that's why I was caught off guard with this. It
is the 44th Yeah, of these marches. I'm 44. I'd never heard
of it. But now they put it up because Trump actually made a
fuss with David Muir because they never cover it. They don't
know. And so they all the networks covered it, because I
think because Trump complained and which I think is interesting
in itself. But the thing about that David Murer interview,
which was on ABC, and there's nothing to clip from it, as far
as you may have something interesting was that this is
these things are usually all exclusive. Oh, we got a
copyrighted story on the front of the New York Times. Usually,
when you see a news, here's a little tip. You don't see it as
much as you used to. But when you used to see a front page
story about some breaking news thing, and it says copyrighted
on the head and say, Is it copyrighted? In the story or
somewhere? Is it copyrighted by you do who the writer is that
they put it in different ways, but it says Copyright? That's
the message to the other newspapers that you can steal
this? Right, right, right. Right. Right. The David Muir
interview, which ran on ABC, was simultaneously seen on CBS, PBS,
and probably NBC even though it wasn't monitoring NBC at the
same time, it was running on ABC. As if it was a viewer, we
got the interview. Now let's pass it around, which is to me
very, you know, it's almost, I would say, illegal, it's like,
you know, they're colluding. They don't even care that they
have the exclusive The idea is to do some trap questions. And
there we go, and you send out copies to everybody, and they
all run it. I just thought that was I personally found it very,
do
you think that was some kind of deal, like under a pool deal or
something? I
think I think it was an unwritten agreement that we're
going to do this interview, because Trump kind of finds that
ABC, which is says in a leaner report to this kind of soft,
soft is of the network's for him. And, and so he will do a b
So David mirrors kind of a soft interviewer is not a hard ass
and he seems pleasant. So he does that, but they set him up.
And then next thing you know, is on all the networks, I found
that to be very disconcerting. It means that the networks are
in
collusion. Yeah, colluding. Sure. I know. I'm sorry.
Not just go on. There was a thing. There was a woman that
came up on PBS about and she came out of this pro life march,
which I never heard of in my life, even though that it's
happened 44 times. And they tried to trap her too, but she
goes right into, I guess she understood that this could
happen and she had it figured out because it was like, it was
trying to be a trap question and then she kind of disarmed it in
such a way that it became very awkward for the Interviewer is
very interesting. This is Marjorie Dennings Felder was one
of the leaders, one of the one of the I think one of the
leaders of this March is interest
all for overturning it in a day, I think it's more likely that
we'll see modest proposals that are enacted into the law, and
then slowly the will of the people will be enacted into the
law as well.
You know, you know, many people are still parsing the recent
election and the outcome. And I have to ask you, even
personally, I saw a letter from January 2016, in which a number
of anti abortion leaders wrote a letter saying anybody but Donald
Trump, and there was a quote in there that said, As women we are
disgusted by Mr. Trump's treatment of individuals, women
in particular,
yeah. Was the letter that was the author. I know, that's
why I'm asking you.
I know I'm saying Good question. Yes, I was the author of that
letter. He was our last choice because of the reasons that were
stated in that letter. He was our last choice. And then until
he was our first choice, and why was he our first choice? He was
because we were comparing to people with fatal character
flaws in our opinion. At that point, we thought that we
weren't sure before that, who we could trust. But there was no
question that when we compare Hillary Clinton, her treatment
of the women that went through her husband's life, and hit and
and Trump and how, and the concerns that we had about the
outrageous things that he said, we were voting on policy in the
end, and policy must rule the day, when you have a choice like
that. And for us, he was far greater, committed pro life and
is turning out to be the far better choice because he is
following through on the commitments and become the
person that we hope that he would be.
Excuse me, I just want to ask you one more question briefly,
if you could, just thinking again, about the causes and the
factors behind the election. How much do you think abortion put
was a factor in the end in Donald Trump's victory,
it was the biggest factor in any election. Any in any election
that abortion was a major factor. He believes that we know
that we saw the numbers of voters that we brought to the
polls in battleground states. It was a number one Googled item
the day before the election, people was on their minds. And
we brought and we brought those votes to the battleground states
for a win and and and he knows that in sodas Mike Pence,
Marjorie Dannenfelser. Take credit.
This is Tim teapot,
this whole thing. It's bullcrap. But yeah, that was nonsense. But
the thing that was interesting to me was that she he tried to
do a setup. Yeah. And he says, I saw this make this point. I saw
a letter.
Yeah, he knew damn well, she wrote it.
He should have said you wrote a letter and then go into that.
That means she's not trying to trap her. Well, he says I saw a
letter and then starts quoting from it. He's trying to get her
to say well that's terrible that are on your you wrote it right.
Sort of a thing. I found it disreputable
presuming that Yeah, well, it's what is it? PBS? Yeah, that's
PBS. Yeah, go figure. I'm finally finally I got some
information. And I love when we get it from our producers,
firsthand out of DC. Got some information about the
inauguration crowd.
God, ya know,
you'll like it. It's good. Hey, Adam, first things first. This
is a first hand report. I'm leaving on a few details. And I
cannot share what agency I worked for. Please, and I
mentioned my name for us on the show. And I verified this
person. So I know what agency he works for. Onto the story. There
was a meeting two days ago that involve White House staff,
including Kellyanne Conway, senior Secret Service officials,
senior security personnel from the Smithsonian Institute,
senior security personnel from National Park Service plus a few
others. The purpose of this meeting was to determine why the
inauguration crowd was so small and to explain it to the White
House. I think you would say Trump, the answer is very
simple. In previous years, the security checkpoints and
magnetometers were not on the mall. They were only on the
parade route. large portions of the mall remain basically open
which allowed the crowds to move about more freely. The inaugural
planning committee this year insisted on making this change.
And it is the general consensus that this change combined with a
total lack of confidence in DC metro rail to keep up with
demand. They have had a terrible rash of safety and maintenance
issues over the last 18 months. Plus the forecast for rain was
enough to keep people away. Apparently, that was not enough
for the White House though, because now all agencies with
cameras on the mall are being asked to provide a variety of
data over a 12 hour period. I would estimate that a combined
3000 man hours will be dedicated to this fiasco when it's all
over with with an average hourly rate of $45. That's $135 in
taxpayer dollars pissed away on essentially nothing. And I then
went back and asked him specifically do you think as do
the audit numbers there? Was it a huge big Lee crowd he says
now, the interpretation of the photos base same crowd density
has been accepted by everyone except the president, it
appears. I believe that is why all agencies were asked to
review video from areas that may have not been shown from the
monument long shots. The whole thing is stupid. Hopefully, he
lets it die after this, because I do not see the numbers
changing. So I'm taking this I'll take this as fact, from our
producer. First, it's really the first report that I think is
credible. Because he's looking at that he's looking at the
information. Yeah.
I'm sure it's it sounds right. Yeah, I think the whole thing is
something of a tempest in a teapot. I don't know why.
Trump's what the point is. Maybe just to name this.
I have no idea. Well, that is, that's the question. Why? So I'm
starting to go to the camp of man. Are you fucking moron? Stop
it. Do you just want to prove the media wrong? You need to
choose a different topic. You're not going to win this one. And I
understand how you looked out and you saw that it look really
full. I get it. And I'm just happy we have people who can do
these things. Yeah, well. The underwhelmed nature of your
response is always heartening.
Well, it's just okay. I mean, I this way I thought before the
report was given,
but I was not so sure. Now I'm sure so I Oh, I mean, I'm coming
over to your side now.
I think the bigger stories and he had some insight into why
Trump is so preoccupied with this specific one thing, and why
he has to say it. I mean, he has
it can be only one thing. It has to be ego.
You know what, it doesn't necessarily have to be ego. It
could be his. He's fooling himself.
Yeah, well, that's yeah, of course. That can be a Mandela
effect. If this is this has Mandela Effect written all over
it? Oh, God. All right. Finally, a quick, short, whole, the whole
show that we do has Mandela Effect written over?
A quick a quick few shorties here. Before we get to get into
our donation segment, longtime producer, I work as a producer,
Production Manager for an event space in midtown Manhattan, that
specializes in high end corporate fundraisers, Galarza
and investor meetings. While we were freeing up some space on
one of our audio recorders, I found the recording for an event
for the NRDC, that is the National Resources Defense
Council. This event featured Hollywood comedians, right the
day after the election. Nevertheless, there was not a
lot of comedy during the event, but I was able to go through the
two hour event and find the best ISOs if you do use them, please.
I'd like to remain anonymous. I got a couple of ISOs here from
that private event.
I'm all ears. George Lopez.
Everybody knows Donald Trump doesn't doesn't like immigrants,
but then stop marrying them.
Actually, that jokes old he does he did that joke before.
Who is Hasan? Minaj Minaj. Do we know Hasan? Minaj? Yeah. No, I
don't need you. Apparently comedian.
Here's what blows my mind. We're here in New York, right? We're
in the little liberal bubble. Like we don't understand who's
actually voting for Trump. We don't know what's going on in
Montana and we shouldn't but
Seth Meyers? Good. Seth Meyers two jokes from him.
And I shook his crib until he woke up and I said we got to get
out of here.
I don't know if he's talking about Trump or his own kid.
Another one from Seth Meyers.
So I tried to find a positive and I said when you wake up
tomorrow, this nation will for the first time have a president
who was a steak sales. Yeah,
not cutting her. No, I'm
telling you that you guys are funnier. John Ayers has this
stuff mostly written forms? I don't know stuff there. Well,
John
Oliver has the final one so
you can do it you can fight
facts
that's actually more on Andrews show so I think we should keep
that well that's that's how sad they were. They could not come
up with a single funny line apparently.
I think I think the stop marrying immigrants is a good
one. That low pass.
Everybody knows Donald Trump doesn't doesn't like immigrants,
but then stop marrying them.
I'm going to show my school by donate to no agenda. Imagine all
the people who could do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fun.
We do have a few people to thank for show 899 A few 899 899
Starting with Donald Barofsky and Spokane Valley, Washington
12345. He has a he was the unfortunate I think he's good. I
could be wrong but I think he got kicked out of the
Federation.
Oh no. Isn't he's not writing on his stationery. Oh, well, we
need to get the skinny on that.
I don't know, whatever the case is he's now writing apparently
he's quit to Federation of Planets and now he's working for
HP. Oh,
that's a different Federation altogether.
No, he's I read a note that HP started as an electronic test
and measurement company had split off this business in 1998,
which became Agilent Technologies. Okay, John and
Adam, thanks for the continuing excellent analysis of the
reaction to the Donald Trump presidency. It's interesting to
note how alert the mainstream media has now become after eight
years of slumber during Obama's stay in the White House and
Okay, contrast is to no agenda, which has been and continues to
be on the ball with regards to the news of the day chairs.
Okay, all right. Thank you. We are on the ball Tom. Thomas.
schenone I guess it is Chinotto what you know, it's
general what I would say schenone
can be shifted spelt with an S It's gotta run on here. It's s
ch unknown. SJ unknown. Thanks for the great analysis and
unique media deconstructions refreshing to get a regular
reminder that I am fact I am not in fact, insane. Something I've
noticed that hasn't gotten any airtime at the right wing press.
Why hasn't anyone gone after the person at NBC who leaked the who
leaked the grab them by the pussy audio? No one is saying
that NBC meddled in the election by releasing it. Well, that's a
good no one's good point. And no one is calling for the FBI to
investigate. But is what the person at NBC and what the
Russians did substantially different both leaked
inflammatory but authentic information about our
presidential candidates. I'm gonna give meddled and hack the
election giving
him a point for that. Thank you. All right,
I am too. Could there be any other motives for doing this
other than the left covering for itself? Where am I wrong? And
these two instances are actually different? I'm interested to
hear your takes on it. No, I
think it's exactly the same you nailed it. Yeah, dynamite.
We should have actually
myself pissed at myself for for dropping. We dropped the ball.
Yeah, thank you for alerting us.
Okay, onward to me, by the way, he came in at $120.17 from
Chicago, anonymous. 113 33. Kevin Kelly $101.01 and Michael
ince, 9741 Ralph Massaro in Kirkland, Washington. The brand
of Costco serves Z p and he came a 90 Sir Z. These are the $90
donors celebrating our 9900 shows. Three of them. Sir, zip
have Lusitania CP, Sir Don. Parts Unknown Melissa Hodges.
Oops. Melissa just came into the 808. Patrick COBOL COBOL to you,
Patrick. Yes. 808 Brian Rosa. In Milton, New York. 808. And
that's it.
And we have oh, this isn't? Kyle, take it back.
I think he's got this wrong, too. Because I believe Kyle
blank came in at 808 Ah, with buddies pop money. We have a
search for it. I've had to make a decision. Oh, no, it's not an
O. It's an O. So the pot of money comes in and it shows up
on the bank statement. So I'm going to do the pop money things
once a month at the last show of the month. Okay. And so I'll go
back in that way. Or maybe in during the middle of I'm going
to do a once a month, whatever it may be, but I'm not going to
do it when it comes in necessarily. Because it's I had
to be looking all the time. No. Which is a pain in the ass. Like
what was your idea?
She was set everybody up? Yeah, I
did. It's fine. I don't care about that. As long as people
don't want the they don't need immediate satisfaction. Okay.
All right. That's right. I just warning them got it. So Kyle
blanket 808 in San Diego, Sir Kevin deals Baron of the mecca
of Mecklenburg County, Charlotte, North Carolina 6432.
James Cashion, the second 5640 sevens. Got a birthday got it.
Bob of wrath was at RAF mal wrath, rail, rough mill. Double
nickels on the dime. Dig Christopher trop in Sturgis,
Michigan 54. And that's 900 nickels and 900 pennies. Yes,
that's 45 Plus, like 59. It's actually an interesting idea.
And it ended with five plus four equals nine. Yeah, I'll put that
in the next newsletters and I like it. It's a good one. Eric
Mahoney in Hamilton, Ontario 5387 Eric Holcomb and Berlin
Deutschland 52. David and the rest of these are $50 donors
name and location David Middlebrook Parts Unknown
Benjamin gar luck, Garlock in Savoy, Illinois 50 Peter Sir
Peter toe Chase and Parts Unknown. Ross Turpin and Troy
Kansas. Bender all in Multan New York. Baron Sir Mark Tanner in
Whittier, California. And last but not least, Eric van marter.
Pop money. And that's it. That's all we got. Yeah, so we got
today.
Yeah. Well, hopefully everyone is holding out for the big 900
Show, which will be on Thursday. And so wish that is our wish.
Yes, indeed. And you can remember us for that, at
devora.org/na Thank you all so much everyone who came in above
$50. Typically, for reasons of anonymity, anonymity, anonymity
and Menominee. anonymity. People also on the subscriptions, have
a check at devora.org/na
vo red.org/n A n we didn't get a lot of requests,
but just in case here's some job.
Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs.
You've got karma.
quickie list James cucina second turns 34 Today we say happy
birthday to him and Anna bar loss and the little say happy
birthday to her husband and their dad. Ignacio Happy
birthday, everybody here at the best podcast in the universe.
One knighting today John has to bout to have a great title
change jingle which just came in? We don't have a title
change. Do you want to want to hear it? So we can
no no, no, I think you should save and surprised me when
there's actually a title change. Oh, but but then people might be
you want to play it? Okay. Well,
I'm asking you a question. People might be motivated,
because then they could have this jingle played for them.
Now,
it'd be more motivated by the mystery.
Okay, mystery it is. Instead of that, give me your blade comes
beautiful. Brad Walker. Come on up. Well, Brad, thanks to you.
We're barely keeping our heads above water. But you sir, have
contributed to the only best podcast in the universe in this
universe. In the amount of $1,000 or more that entitles you
to a seat at the no agenda Round Table of our Knights and Dames
and therefore I'm very happy to pronounce the K D server and
beer night of the uncork bottle for you, my friend, we have
workers and blow rent boys and Chardonnay, meat and water,
garlic and broccoli, cheap white and chili dogs. We've got drams
and DMT, malted barley, and hops hookers in Mali and rubella and
Legos as cream with bear fillings. We've got winches and
beer, ginger ale and dribbles. And, of course, my new Mead,
head on over to no agenda nation.com/rings and telehealth
to show about your dimensions and your address. And he'll get
that off to you post haste, as we say, Hmm,
CBS has decided to do a kind of I think this is gonna last not
very long, but it could go on for a while. A fact check
section.
Oh, fact? Yes. Actually. It's actually called the fact check
section.
No, but that's what it is. They're rolling out a Trump
statement. And they're saying what really is they did they
only had two on this particular one. But let me give.
It's a soft launch of the segment then.
Example of something like that, you know, dozens and dozens of
protesters have crowded my hallway. And then you say no, it
was 19 people and call me a liar. Because it's not dozens.
Or dozens and dozens. Yeah. Which flies, whereas more than a
dozen vendors or yes, it could be could be. So I'm a liar now
because you're a shoot well, yes. huge lie. And you've proven
it. Yeah, he's proven. Bam, nailed it. So you have to be
very specific when you say anything. So when Trump says
millions of millions, they can prove it's not true. And so this
is a big deal. Okay. Now, here's CBS cherry picking
facts. Okay.
In the news conference that we wondered about. Mr. Trump said
that the United States is losing quote millions and millions of
jobs to Mexico. Our research department found this most
recent survey ending in 2010 estimated that at most 682,000
jobs have been lost since the North American Free Trade
Agreement began in 1994. Mr. Trump also said the US loses in
trade to every single country. But for the record, the US has a
trade surplus with most countries 130 to a deficit with
102 Fact Check false.
Okay, yeah, there was I it was one little good day that the
trade deficit thing I mean, we'd have Look at the you can see
it's not we don't have one with the big traders. We don't have
one with Mexico. We don't have one with China. Or you know, we
don't we have a deficit. But that's beside the point. There's
130 Little bitty countries as Samoa I'm sure we have that we
can make 10 bucks a year. But that's beside the point. There
was a little gotchu in there. Yet I don't know if you caught
it or not. But it was like them kind of fudging, to say the
least. And by the way, 682,000 If Trump had said 1000s and
1000s, or 10s of 1000s, or hundreds of 1000s. He had been
Okay in this segment, but he said millions instead which is
wrong. Well, it's right there's there's still a gotcha in here
that indicates this myth did CBS can be full of
crap. He should have said millions and millions of jobs
saved or created. And then it would have been okay.
Lost or lost or destroyed. Lost or lost or never created. That's
it last or never created last don't ever Yeah, exactly. Now,
did you notice the little, little?
Probably Didn't Know You didn't?
He says the numbers about but since the creation of NAFTA
2010. Oh, yeah, that's bullcrap. And he slipped it in smoothly.
Oh, damn it, I missed it.
It's just like, what? That's 2010. Those aren't real numbers.
The numbers are not that number anymore. So why don't you give
us the real numbers actually do some work. Anyway, I find that
segment is going to be a fiasco.
Well, this falls under the fake news segment on our show. And
one of our producers sent me a recording of that bastion of new
media, Ira Glass, Ira glasses. Now what he does this American
life, he has a
little he was a big shot at bit, NPR for years, doing all sorts
of things. And I think he went off and started to make money as
a podcast because they weren't gonna pay him enough for
something like,
Well, it's funny you bring that up. This is a speech he did at
the NPR, future of like an NPR future evening or something. And
so he, you know, people at NPR, certainly, but people like the
artists here in in Austin, you know, they hire glasses, you
know, is on the city's the male equivalency of Rachel Maddow. In
fact, that may be the same person, I'm not quite sure.
We've just never seen him in a photo together. And he was there
too. And this is mainly NPR people to talk about fake news,
facts based reporting, etc, etc. I thought it was fun. To have a
couple clips.
One way to measure the limited power of fact, based reporting
came to September when Donald Trump held a press conference
declaring it number one, he had personally concluded that Barack
Obama was born in this country. And number two, the rumor that
he was not born in this country was started by Hillary Clinton.
Now, let's just stop there for a moment. If I recall correctly,
it was not that Hillary Clinton had started the rumor, but that
it had started within the Hillary Clinton campaign.
Correct. And that
is correct. And that that we have to assume she approved of
it.
That's the assumption. But you can even leave that out. Right
off the bat. The question that is about to be asked is not did
it start in the Hillary Clinton campaign, but did Hillary
Clinton start it? So it's kind of a false narrative to start
with, but this he's going to use this to explain the fake news,
etc, that
he was not born in this country was started by Hillary Clinton.
That second claim everybody remember was refuted, almost in
real time. On my television forcefully and thirdly, by the
excellent and exemplary Jake Tapper
on, hold on a second. Just so you know, and just blow the guy
was done in almost in real time, by the excellent and exemplary.
My colleague, my friend, my confidant, the man I look up to
so much, Jake Tapper of CNN,
Paul leaves
an exemplary Jake Tapper on CNN and by a number of others, and
then the entire machine of the American mainstream media kicked
into gear immediately and for a few days, I liked
it. He admits it's a machine at least that's kind of cool. It's
a machine that kicked in Yes,
of the American mainstream media kicked into gear immediately and
for a few days, refuting the lie about Hillary Clinton starting
the Birther Controversy. And then a couple days after that, I
went looking for polling numbers on this issue. So the only poll
that I could find that hit this specific topic in the right
timeframe was a Monmouth poll of likely voters in Florida. It
showed that after Trump's press conference couple days after 1/3
now believe that Hillary Clinton started the Birther Controversy,
which is really depressing. Sometimes this year, I don't
know how you all are feeling. But sometimes it feels like as a
working journalist, I'm on a team that is losing yardage.
Week by week, I want to reach those people like I want to
reach that third. Like, I want to reach them, those people who
are not interested in factual information, or in fact, they
actively doubt the factual information presented by those
of us who are in the mainstream media. And it's a puzzle.
It's interesting how he's calling himself mainstream
media. Although maybe he's not it's very easy to try to walk a
very fine line here. I think because he's maybe not on NPR,
or, indeed, I don't know what it is.
I think it's referring to himself. Yeah, I think so. Is it
mainstream,
presented by those of us who are in the mainstream media? And
it's a puzzle, honestly, I've been thinking about for months,
like how do we present fact based reporting to people who do
not trust any of us in this room? Like, what do we need to
invent to do that? I will say because I am a fact based
person.
John, are you a fact based person? I think so. Are you
sure? Because it sounds like Yeah,
I had a bunch of facts came out.
To do that. I will say because I am a fact based person. The
answer to that is possibly that there's nothing we can do.
So this is big pause. Like there's nothing we can do. It's,
it's unbelievable.
It was a lie to begin with you phony,
it's unclear. It's unbelievable for him to first of all, he
doesn't even know the story or he's either lying on purpose or
the question is should not be what did Hillary Clinton started
doing to start in her campaign? So that's, you know, that is a
that's a fact check falls right off the top. But then it's like,
I don't know 30% of people who were polled we could trust those
believed it. I want to reach them. I want to convert them.
This is your conversion therapy right here, ladies and
gentlemen. And he's He's like, he's depressed now. And then he
says,
but I'll also say that just seems like quitter talk quitter
talk and, and, and among the American values that I believe
that journalists carry every day in their jobs in exemplary ways
is that we are not quitters. We make the extra phone call we do
the extra interview. Oh, we do not shut up ever. And I feel
like we need to run at this problem.
He's losing. He's losing the thread in his speech here when
you go like I don't know. I don't know. But but it's clear
journalists are not lazy John, they're happy to do the extra
interview. They're happy to do the extra mile. Anything you
need. Okay. Now one of our favorite topics,
has been countering the non factual statements coming out of
the White House has been totally wonderful to watch.
You rock I wrote so many moments in the Spicer press conferences
just made me feel so proud to be a journalist to proud to be on
the team like just proud of my colleagues, who are asking
questions like can we just hear like how many people are
unemployed right now in this country? Like what's the
baseline Mara Liasson asked that recently at a press conference,
like if you're saying you're going to add to them, just what
is the unemployment rate right now?
Now, this is interesting, because clearly very concerned
about this. Yeah. Well, the Trump administration is messing
it up. They're morons, they need to immediately explain how the
numbers are calculated, when the calculation changed, why the use
six numbers are have been eliminated from the calculation.
Why aren't they doing this? This is baffling to me.
You know, the guy who would have been the best president was Ross
Perot, Ross Perot and go on his little TV things that allowed
he's in he have a little chart in his hand, and a little
pointer hand drawn, what's going on? And he showed these numbers
and the point is, this is the end he said then does the
sucking sound and you know, of NAFTA, he hated that. And he had
these little charts and each show people always made a lot of
sense just to watch him explain the chart. Glenn Beck used to do
that on on Fox all the time. You have a chart all the he overdid
it. He had too many. Well, his charts always ended with Soros.
It got a little Yeah, he stopped doing that for some reason, but
His thing was a little too much. But perot was great at this. And
I've always wondered why these candidates don't do that more
often. They try to do it in the House and the Senate because
they have a guy there make signs that puts a sign up and
sometimes they show a graph. But it seems to me that that's the
way to go because you just can't talk to people that can't hear
you. But they always remember what a graph told them. Right?
Well, so apparently, they're going to do this. At least
that's what I I understand from what Ira Glass is saying here,
but they should I mean, you're right, someone needs to come out
there with a pointer, explain how it works. Explain how the
numbers are calculated. And you need to show exactly when that
change, which, from what I understand from what you said is
kind of when Obama came into office, and then the numbers
just when screwy.
Yeah, and when were they, but they look rosy.
But the thing that's so troubling to me is now, in this
one speech, the bastion of news of NPR Ira Glass, not only does
he have his facts wrong on the on the birther meme started in
the Hillary Clinton campaign during that fierce battle. But
he also doesn't understand or has not bothered to investigate
how the numbers work. And what the actual unemployment is
calculated on and what is not calculated on his people. Was it
three months now is after three months yeah, you don't have a
job if you are presumed to be a bum and you've given up
I think any well first of all, you can take yourself off of the
you don't look okay, for work, you gave up. Boom, you're now
doesn't count. So you're not unemployed. You're just I don't
know what you are. But you're zombie.
What is the what do you think the number is the actual
unemployment?
The number according to John Williams, a statistician out of
San Francisco just recently interviewed by Andrew Horowitz
the numbers around 23 to 24%. And we've been stable for the
last five or six years at that number two Horowitz
asked him about the heat. This guy's always this shadow stats
guy is always accused of massaging the numbers or doing
some trickery. Well, we
talked he talked about this, his answer. His answer was, I think
he's kind of massages the numbers. But he does it in a way
he claims that reflects the reality of the situation. He
says, he says you because you can't get some of these numbers
anymore. So you have to kind of you have to figure them out. And
but he does it. He claims he doesn't do reverse engineering.
He says his numbers reflect the actual situation when you go
look at the homeless. When you look at people begging for
money. When you look at these deals and can't match when you
look at people that can't get jobs in bitch and moan about it.
He says his numbers are on the mind. This is the numbers 23 23%
final clip from Ira Glass. Hold on to your keyboard. John, I
know you're sitting down but hold on to it. He is going to
tell us about the future of journalism. He sees a very rosy
future for journalism, extremely rosy. In fact, he says it's a
boon time for journalists, did you realize it's a boon time,
Boon time I tell you?
What you want to write for nothing?
Well, you're close. You're close to this conclusion. But yes,
there is a future of journalism and you will be surprised I'm
in the unusual position to be a part of journalism. That's going
through a crazy boom time where audience and revenues are
climbing up very, very quickly. And that's that's podcasting.
People around the world are consuming long form serious
journalism in podcast form, John,
the future of journalism is pod cast.
You know, this guy wants to be you. You see this with guys who
are taking a look around and say, you know, I'm gonna starve
to death if I stay in this business at this where I am now,
because the money has dried up. So they all think they can go
into podcasting and by saying that what he just said, by
saying that he hopes to God it's true. Oh, and he didn't stop
there.
13 million people downloaded every episode of cereal season
one it
is impossible to calculate downloads without having control
over the player. You This is just a guesstimate at best.
4 million people I think more downloaded every episode of NPRs
invisibility a 2.5 million download every episode of this.
Did you say NPRs? Embassy Leah? What was that? What was that
show? Footage? Show NPR is in Basilia
more downloaded every episode of NPR is invisibility Oh
invisible. Download every episode of This American Life.
And one of our producers that we chase I think these podcasts go
places that are really interesting one of our buddies
not listen to this. Listen to what he said just listen to the
words
at these podcasts.
These podcasts go places you never expect. They they travel
they get on planes trains, automobiles, they go places you
don't expect the interesting one
of repetition so a Chase was at the inaugural but one of the
inaugural bowls last week that the one for people who create
memes and troll on behalf of Donald Trump on social media.
This was the deplorable and she was very interested to learn how
many many fans we had their
see fans. Now you just showed your colors their fans teasing
me What's important is fans to the fans because they want to be
popular. Yeah, that's it John future podcast versus future of
journalism and we are leading the charge. We are We are the
future J nobodies
following your lead, less than 10 minutes to go.
That's your 10 Minute Warning. I'm pushing my global warming
stuff to Thursday. It's that good.
All right, I have got a couple of things I can push, but I'm
going to want to get this out of the way. This is the report on
what's going on in California with Monsanto. And there's a
little kind of another one of these gotchas in there. I want
to talk to you about it. After the reports over
the weed killer roundup can be labeled with a cancer warning at
least in California. A judge made that ruling today against
the agriculture giant Monsanto. Here's Omar via francha. Now
round Roundup,
is one of the most popular weed killers on the market, used by
everyday gardeners and farmers because of its effectiveness,
Roundup, David and this is with the Texas a&m Agrilife
Extension.
It's cost effective and it is very effective as far as
controlling weeds. Roundup is
a commercially sold weed killer manufactured by Monsanto. The
herbicides main ingredient is glyphosate, a chemical that is
efficient at destroying various types of weeds,
they can spray the weeds and then plant right into where
they've sprayed. But the country's
largest agricultural state is considering the new warning
label on Roundup. California officials want to list
glyphosate as a chemical known to possibly cause cancer, based
on a 2015 decision by the World Health Organization, saying it
is probably carcinogenic to humans. Citing limited evidence.
Monsanto is suing California rejecting that their product
poses a health risk calling the proposal flawed and baseless and
that it violates the Constitution. Killing weeds is
big business. Last year, Monsanto reported $3.5 billion
in global sales of crop control products, which include Roundup,
and there's more at stake for Monsanto didn't just the weed
killer. Many of the company's genetically modified crops are
designed with an immunity to glyphosate that's becoming one
of the more widely used materials and on the planet.
Now, I'm not saying CBS especially the network is
unprofessional. Yeah, you are. But they have the others these
things NBC has a book that you can buy the occasion it shows up
on the market, it's called the NBC pronunciate to pronounce the
T or gives a T or something. And it has all the pronunciations of
all the words in the world and it just tells you how to
pronounce them. So you have a an your news organization at the
high level and local who cares but at the highest level they
pronounce all the words are the same. So you don't have one guy
saying Monsanto and the other guy saying Monsanto Monsanto
Monsanto know, Monsanto, Monsanto, Monsanto. I mean, come
on. Is this guy like work for the company? Does he know about
this unit Bucha pronounced the Monsanto one way way to be nuts
every time he said Monsanto
is our jingle or jingles wrong. It's wrong. Monsanto is wrong.
We gotta get a new jingle. Mon song Hall. Is a private funding
quite annoying, can imagine is also a pro Monsanto thing
because they were talking about Well, here's a report it was
dubious. They just say that.
It was good out of here. I want to play one funny clip from from
our new president. I don't think he meant it, but I thought it
was funny. We're gonna
look at what I've done recently. Ford's moving back in General
Motors is going to be spending massive amounts of money and
Fiat Chrysler, the head was a highly respected man, Sergio
flew all the way from Italy to have to go to the meeting two
days ago. They're going to spend a lot of money in the United
States Foxconn. 7 billion Foxconn Alibaba Alibaba, who's a
great guy by the way. Companies
Alibaba, Alibaba guy, he's great. Alibaba is a great way
to start the jingling. Zuckerberg douchebag he didn't
hear this one. No, I'm sure I didn't.
Hundreds of people in Hawaii say they'll protest against Facebook
CEO Mark Zuckerberg this weekend over his filing of lawsuits to
force hundreds of residents including Native families off
their land in order to make his Hawaiian beachfront property as
private as possible. Native Hawaiian Professor kibosh wrote
to the University of Hawaii said quote this is the face of Neo
colonialism unquote. Zuckerberg now says he's reconsidering the
lawsuits
Hold on a second. That's what we need now. All right. Is our game
I need to watch this. I'm happening today.
Well, today is the Pro Bowl which is an exhibition game that
takes place a week before the Super Bowl nowadays. And it is
So it's a it's weird because they have different rules and
nobody wants to hurt each other. And then there's the Miss
Universe thing which will take care of
looking forward to that. Always nice.
Always nice.
Alright everybody please remember us at devora.org/and a
particularly for a big episode 900 900
of the best podcast in this universe. Hey, is the Miss
Universe this universe or different universe?
It's this the best universe?
I think this universe will be in the alternate universe, don't
you think?
Well, oh, yeah, definitely. Definitely. Definitely.
Coming to you from the crackpot condo here in the skyscraper
downtown Austin Tejas, we're in FEMA Region six in case you're
looking for it on a governmental map. until Thursday morning
everybody, my name is Adam curry.
I'm from Northern Silicon Valley where there's no maps of John C.
Dvorak. We will
return on Thursday right here on no agenda. Until then, adios
mofos I'm angry grades grades we cannot
we must love one another or die we must love one another died an
awful lot about blowing up the White House.
Alibaba, who's a great guy, but
you can't do it. You can fight facts,
I'm angry
cannot continue to hide
the happiness and joy of seeing an American walking through
their streets. But they express the question they said. Why is
it that the United States its allies and other countries are
providing support providing arms
to terrorists? I'm a white woman. I don't get it. I am
pleased and honored to scream. Listen to me. You don't get it
been torturing and killing the Syrian people, children, men,
women, people of all ages.
I am so excited that we're here. White woman I don't get it. I am
pleased and honored to be here today to have the conversation.
I am stage
on 911 not Syria. I didn't answer for them. But recently
the United States government denies providing any stuff
because that's
my job. My job and I am listening because that's my job.
Because that's my job my job my job my job my job you're about
the children oh my god
know people want to
hear hear? audios mofo? fora.org/in A