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Oh yeah, Mama, my mama lives in
the same house. We live in. Adam

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curry, John C. Dvorak.

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Sunday, November 19 2017. This
is your award winning get my

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nation media assassination
episode Niner a

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three. This is no agenda,
turning your

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dollar wrench worldwide and the
greenbacks broadcasting live

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from downtown Austin Tejas
capital, the drone Star State in

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the studio in the morning,
everybody. I'm Adam curry,

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and from Northern Silicon
Valley, where there's nothing

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really going on. I think I'm
going to take a vacation. I'm

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John C. Dvorak. Hill. No such
thing as a vacation in our

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business. And I mentioned I
missed the Zephyr. I tweeted you

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a nice picture of a classic
movie. Did you see that? The

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movie is it was a nice cover of
the movie of the film poster.

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The man who watched the trains
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Yeah, no, I saw that. Okay, then
why did you say no? Because I

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don't know what you're talking
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was a while ago was like it just
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Okay, we're in a fine mood,
aren't we? Yeah. What are you

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being accused of? Groping.

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Curiously, you want to start
start there?

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Only under one condition. Okay,
we play the jingle.

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And now it's time for your
sexual harassment update.

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I got lots of women who liked it
a lot John they liked the

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jingle.

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I liked the jingle it's good. I
think men like to jingle to

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sexism finally have a female
voice on the show so nice.

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We have the view that karma
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anything.

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True true. But you know what I
mean in a jingle form.

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Yes, we need more women
jugglers.

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Hello, are you a jungler sign
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So there's a little story that
we'll get is not going to get a

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lot of because you know they're
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protect Franken you know?

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Yes, and it's so obvious that
this was going to happen we were

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pretty much ready for it. I have
quite a slew of examples. And

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you can imagine it is almost
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the alternative universe I don't
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me nauseous but that they truly
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what's going on now it's really
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to watch.

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Well the funny thing about
Franken is is that like all

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these other guys I would say I
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Bill Cosby where at first
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one and then there's a couple
and then to death but they've

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been doing their best to repress
them but we do have a local

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story because it involved a
local person one of our one of

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the talk show people it's a I
don't have the clip list in

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front of me but it's a clipped
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it and Melanie Morgan

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okay. No, yeah, thank you. Oh
no, it's another Franken victim

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is that it may be

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another Frank and victim and
this a local girl

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while she sleeps and a second
woman accused Frankin of

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harassment today. Former Bay
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spoke out today saying Franken
wouldn't stop calling her after

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they debated on the Bill Maher
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It was three days worth of phone
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finally, the last time that he
called I said if you call me one

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more time I am calling the
police and I am going to make a

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harassment complaint against
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Morgan says the incident
happened in the year 2000. She

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says he got her phone number
from a producer on the show.

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Morgan says the incident quote
frightened her half to death.

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You know I saw her on Laura
Ingraham show. I'm not a big fan

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of Laura Ingram necessarily, but
she was on Oh, if there's a new

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accuser, so and I watched, I
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to him on the show. He was
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Well, he wanted to be right.
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wasn't necessary. Unless that's
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odd. I'm well,

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and that during that period, she
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Yeah, yeah. 15 years or 1620
years ago. Yeah.

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It wasn't sexual harassment.

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Will he be calling her to say,
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he take he's a comic and as a TV
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calling her over and over well,
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I think that he might be one of
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when he doesn't get his way that
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have someone say okay, I don't
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He's creepy but the thing that
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alternate universe is you know,
the focus on the picture, much

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less on the forceful kiss, which
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I can see the funny in what he
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inappropriate, but here's how
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she says that he wrote a part
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him to kiss her and that he
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backstage that made her
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jab, rehearsed the kiss
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that made her uncomfortable. And
then she also published a

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picture that was given to her of
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mock groping her so it is mock

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groping Oh, okay. I see. It's
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This sounds like the mentioned B
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I meant B, AB, whatever we
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In a nutshell, she said she was
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wrote, he was a comedian then
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script that they should kiss
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It was uncomfortable. She
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he fought it took a picture,
which his office now says was a

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joke that showed him potentially
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groping her while she was
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Okay, oh, that's fine. Mock
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Hey, I just go up to some random
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say, hey, just mocking Jasmine
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microbuses. Really?

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I mean, that is what's
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that if it was because it's all
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Republican it would have been,
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And he's got to get out. So
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themselves, too. It's gotta be
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they know that. I mean, it was
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Bill Clinton's being brought up
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And I have the Clinton clips.
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I got one. But you seem to have
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by the way, I'm going to before
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claim clips, this is an attack
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trying to get her out of the
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She's like a bad penny. Yes, she
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house and won't leave. And so
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going to do? I'm the you know,
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think they actually do have a
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down to what are we going to do
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Bill, Bill will have some
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apparently she's not listening
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Which one do you want to start
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Well, what a bunch of players
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Oh, well. Okay. I have I have.
All right, hold on a second.

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We'll start then with CNN panel
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Good night got to CBS and Fox.
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concerted effort by the entire
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Yeah. So what I need to do is I
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former note former because
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former because she's everywhere.
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for the Clinton campaign. And
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first on Frank, and then we'll
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panel with other CNN women in
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one, should we

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be talking about Bill Clinton
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We should be talking about Bill
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plenty of feminists at the time,
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happening, that we're having
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right now. But at the time, we
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feminists, we thought they were
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conversation about the cultural
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I did like this, outliers,
outliers. But the time Don't you

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remember?

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Feminists, we thought they were
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conversation about the cultural
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dynamic and the abuses of power.
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weren't a part of the main
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important to promote themselves.
In the past. I'm not giving him

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a pass. I'm saying the reason
why we're having this

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conversation about Bill Clinton
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current president has been
accused by over a dozen women of

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inappropriate sexual behavior.
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And so I think that he's the
catalyst for this entire

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conversation. And I think
Congress, you know, we need to

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understand this in sort of a
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spectrum of behavior on the one
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more severe end is the Harvey
Weinstein's of the world, Bill

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Cosby's of the world. Why more?
Right. You have the deputy

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40 years ago, and we're gonna go
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that was then this is now why is
Roy Moore even brought into the

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conversation that was 40 years
ago. Right. Right, right for

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right. Okay. And then the other
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street harassment and you have
Al Franken and you have more

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benign behaviors that are
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necessarily criminal. And so I
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stand that all women have these
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victims of harassment but at
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Okay, so it's a spectrum night
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understand. It's a spectrum like
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If you forcibly say you're going
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or not, and then you do it and
then you stick your tongue in

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the throat. Is that that almost
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Yeah. How about if you grab
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You know, if he was a better
looking guy, he never said that

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he grabbed anyone by the papacy
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bush.

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Yes, correct. But that has
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remembered anymore. Now we're
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think Brooke Baldwin was leading
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media director. I don't think
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She's the way let me she's the
anti boobs woman.

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Brooke is Yeah, Brooks the anti
boob woman. She hates boobs. In

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new groundswell of everything
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new lens on Bill Clinton.
fairpoint. Go ahead. Yes,

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absolutely. Because this goes
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the $850,000 that Clinton paid
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I forget who this is. But this
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mistake on CNN right now

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for sexual harassment. She only
asked for 700,000 but she got

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$850,000 from Bill Clinton that
was payola. He didn't admit

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guilt. But why would you

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second, payola I refer
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industry? Yeah, pay off is the
word she's looking for.

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She's an idiot like most people
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payola. He didn't admit guilt,
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Unless you were doing something
wrong, and this was not, it was

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case after case after case and
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was mumbling away there.

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This kid this this use of the
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unbelievable. Well, you

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know, that Brooke immediately
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soliloquy said that's not
payola. Oh, wait, no, she did.

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after case after case, and
Hillary Clinton, she's just

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victim shame. You want to talk
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called Monica Lewinsky who was
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five and now the former director
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nontender way that you should
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what she should but the blame on
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Bill Cohen's behavior is not
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choices, and the men's behavior,
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their behavior, not just same as
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politics. But this problem is
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not putting it on the last
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after Lewinsky called her babe
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terrible television I liked was
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can't have out you can't
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they're all talking over each
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They're gonna get into it,
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Lewinsky scandal was an affair
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Monica Lewinsky. Lewinsky has
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never since the time not back
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that he did this to me. It was
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touch. I mean, she's not an
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in and on her behalf, accused
him of marital affair. That is

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not illegal and might be
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oh, hold on. It's not true. In
Texas, it's illegal for sure.

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It's illegal to what?

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copulation outside of the
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offense

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there in Washington DC, though
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goes there. No affair.

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That is not illegal might be
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But it's not illegal to have an
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President to remember the
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because of the perjury over
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was appointed a year and a half
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In January. You're quietly

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she was an intern. And then we
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full force, because you're
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this was the attack on Hillary
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everybody out there. Former
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I want to bring you in Jen on
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Donald Trump's for Sean Hannity
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Fox being a partisan issue where
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Harvey Weinstein, or if it's Al
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know, Sean Hannity saw fit to
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it is amazing the the blindness
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people who are accusing,
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highlighting democratic
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the exact opposite there's no
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Moore's assault on nine women
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last one of them in incredibly
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his early 30s. That doesn't
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scrutiny and for Donald Trump at
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attention and as Eli said,
cutesy Bootsy. Nicknames as a

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Yeah. It's it's the, it's like a
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weaponization of sexual
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the height of cynicism, and it's
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Trump being a douchebag

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candidate, but it's not just
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was very quick to to call for
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Franken which is an appropriate
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to do what are you bitching
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but he was not sincere in doing
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Mitch McConnell's interesting
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big national Republican figure
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women about Roy Moore's accuse I
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worried you know

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what this now sounds like it
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just think it's a different
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technology every tech podcast I
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beginning put a time note down

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but I'm serious.

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Yeah, it's people just talking
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Yeah, and no place to do that.
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Then the Bill Maher show, which
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this one clip for the last 10
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series of clips leading to the
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Didn't mean to trick you. I'm
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Some they've some author she
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horrible men are Bernstein's on
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who I used to like a lot I used
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Or like, I never liked her
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that network and they didn't
know too much. I guess I

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shouldn't have good nevermind.
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don't think she's funny.

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kind of when she when she moved
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you know, she's off the air.
Otherwise, I'm sure with her

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sexual proclivity. She would
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somewhere. She's, she's a wild
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exchange. Again, it's about Bill
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What about Bill Clinton? shall
see you you tweeted, imagine

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being molested by an older man,
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it and then goes it goes on and
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Senate and Juanita Broderick
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Handler I can't imagine and goes
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by Betsy, unlike the right you
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I said, I'm so sorry.

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I apologize. Every first of all,
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heard. You know, anyone who's
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abuse needs to be listened to?
You can't do that. We look at

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Bill Clinton. Well, do we have
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Clinton? I mean, I think that's
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out on that? We got what Bill
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of sex a lot of people and, and
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that's we know, we're now we're
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Right, right. I mean, right.
You're right. Do we have to go

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back and look at that? Yeah, I'm
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woman. And it is my job. Right
now we're in the area where we

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have to believe every woman
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job at believing each other.
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One of the reasons. One of the
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crucial that we go back as part
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at Bill Clinton is because the
timing of what happened with

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Bill Clinton was really crucial
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conversation about sexual
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the Anita Hill hearings, in
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harassment, and what it meant to
women as a class, the way that

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this behavior, disadvantaged
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professionally, which reminds
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because I only witnessed that,
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young at the time, well, not
very, I'd be much younger. This

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is the long Dong silver.
Clarence Thomas. He was made up

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care and care on the coat can he
didn't actually touch her or

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anything, but he was very rude.
It was It wasn't a John Kerry

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Kerry, who ran that entire
Senate investigation. I don't

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remember. But, you know, Tom was
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lo and behold, right after that,
we like Ah, okay, we're gonna

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get those Democrats. Let's go.
Let's out Clint. And as a

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douchebag, this has been going
on forever almost

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came into the lexicon. And
feminists made this point even

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though Clarence Thomas was
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despite being accused of sexual
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then immediately after Bill
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and there is because he is
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the 12 years of and this is the
politics you're talking about.

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And because there is a 12 years

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What What are you saying?

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I have no idea which stuff but
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because it was bush for four and
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Now okay, but people loved him.
Didn't they even didn't

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Democrats even love him? Who
Reagan?

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Yeah, they reluctantly said
nothing. They reluctantly didn't

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go after Him because they were
apparently overmatched. They

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didn't nobody, nobody, no
Democrat loved Reagan, no matter

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what they

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saw now, apparently, was, he's
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And this is the politics you're
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is a right wing attack on him,
and those things are

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simultaneously true, there is a
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Clinton's power abuse with
