Casting 2.0 for September 16 2022, episode 102 We're down
with OB three Hello everybody. Welcome once again to the board
meeting of podcasting. 2.0 Everything that happened this
week in podcasting 2.0 Of course all that's going on with a
namespace value for value. All the groovy stuff happening in
podcasts index dot social. I'm Adam curry deep in the heart of
Georgia and in Alabama. I'm waving at him right now. He
feels SO CLOSE say hello to my friend on the other end. Mr.
Dave Jones.
I can see Georgia from my house.
Is that the Yeah, there you go. Sarah the callback? Yeah, that's
a good one.
It actually never happened like so many of these things.
Well, you actually can see Russia from Alaska just maybe
not from her house and she never said it. She never actually said
it was What's your face the actress on Saturday Night Live.
It was the thing where was that that that effect where you
remember Mandela Effect? Mandela? That's it, man.
Real man. Real man's real man. Yep.
And they're staying bears. So I'm go ahead. You're in the
you're in the enemy territory. So
Oh, I see. Yes. from Alabama. I gotcha. Well, it feels like I'm
not at all in enemy territory. Although it may sound a little
bit boomy. I'm in the kitchen of a cabin here.
I literally do do do do do I
have not heard banjos? Yeah, so I think we're
well you're you're in South Georgia, not North Georgia. So
you're saying well this is
Bluffton, Georgia at White Oak pastures which is pretty famous
if you're into beef and regenerative farming will Harris
is the is the owner of this has been in the family for since
1886. Or some crazy length of time. And this is the Big Beef
coin. Beef coin, the beef I need to write that one down.
Okay, basically, coin I gotta read it before the day is out.
There will be an old coin way that name somebody will also
launch a beat Bitcoin blockchain.
Let's do funny. Yeah, so it's not beef coin is the beef
initiative. And it's pretty dynamite. You know, maybe 100
People here but a lot of ranchers and Bitcoiners some
famous Bitcoiners even so I'm here with thanks a slim. We're
shacking up in this in this cabin. And oh, cozy. That's Q
banjo. And. And he's actually upstairs on the balcony doing a
podcast with Robert Breedlove. So it's like it's like this.
It's very odd. Very odd situation.
Will there be bandwidth concerns with dueling podcasts?
We hope not so far. So good. I mean, it's it's actually pretty,
pretty decent here. And I flew in from San Antonio to Atlanta
drove down for about three hours. And now it has everything
I want to fund drive. You know, that was 185 that was a great
drive. I mean, really? Yeah. You put on the cruise control. I
mean, 65 on the speed limit everyone's doing at his blast
and down as beautiful as it was the
one that goes all the way to Orlando from like Atlanta. I
don't know. That might be 85 but 185 it was nobody there's just
nobody out there. Now he's I was going to Jones in first muscle
speed down the street down that highway.
Yeah, well, you I mean, you're you're doing the tour of the
South. I am you're trying to mate. You're trying to hit every
every every point you've been what Nashville just this year.
Nashville. Georgia, South Georgia.
Wait, did I go to Nashville?
I thought you went to Nashville for meetup.
No, no, no. I got COVID And then it was at the skating rink and
instead I dialed in, and I spawned records like that. 70s
Disco records. Dynamite oops, sorry about that. I'm gonna open
up the heli pads so we can hear when we get some live boosts. We
are live of course we're lit. Just noticed in pod verse that
when you hit the when you hit the live notification, it pops
up and it has the album art the album art that you specify for
the live show. So this is a an opportunity. I'm very excited
about the next show. Now I want to put some really cool in
there.
Yeah, so the this has to be new because neither one of us
remember this happening before this this can't I don't think
I've ever seen the Albemarle show up on the notification
unless I'm crazy.
Well, I'm digging it is really really cool. And today we also
have the the opp
Oh, it is so
I don't remember what it stands for. But I remember opp P.
It's the original podcast prefix party.
There you go.
I don't know what they got. I have no idea what they don't
remember what it is either, but I love it.
So I think we should talk about this real quick because I
immediately went, Okay, I don't know what it is either. I want
in I'll do it. I think I understand it. And then Stephen
B, immediately put the functionality into sovereign
feed. So all I had to do was check a box. And boom, every
single enclosure has the opp juice.
Yeah, okay, so this Yeah, we need to discuss every bit of
this. Steven B is the as the fastest fingers on the planet.
To me, it was like two hours start to finish. Boom, done.
It's our fan and it works. I mean, I love Steven B.
Sometimes, you know, he does that and it doesn't work. So I
love him. I love him for that.
As it is as it will. It's not a slam dunk still best.
I mean, hey, you run with scissors. Sometimes you get
scratched? Oh, yeah.
Yeah, sometimes you get one in the jugular. It just depends on
Oh, I just said it's picking up the episode. So I'm actually
going to put that into the into the show notes.
And you opp the last stream too. So yeah, yeah, fully Good. Cool.
Is this where as opp that you can possibly LP PP. O Opie? Now,
I'm
not sure if the I don't know if it works on the light. I don't
have that yet. I don't I don't know how this thing works. I
don't know what.
So the so I'm studying for the show I was doing on Thursday
night, I'm studying for the show. And then. And then John
Spurlock post this thing, which blows up my entire show prep,
because then I have to just go, you know, a Mobb Deep trying to
figure out what this thing is that he just posted in in and
then when it when it hit me a couple of minutes into reading
what it was, I was like, This is big. Okay, this is this is
really big. Do you have any idea what we're what I mean, here the
idea at all? What this is?
Yes. What I think this is, is to be able to, in an open source
manner, see exactly how many people are downloading my
enclosures. And give me all sorts of details like you'd get
from a hosting company, except it's raw data. And does that
make sense?
Yes, this is this essentially, like, this is essentially like
pod track. are one of those services. Yeah. Does it
accomplishes. I'm not gonna say the same goal because it can do
a lot more stuff. And his aim is different. But it but it can do
the same thing in ED his base at its core. Yeah, meet us said
Spurlock maybe loosely plus not me too, but
I'm losing sleep right now trying to understand how I can
use this to my advantage. I mean, I liked it. I just I'm not
quite sure what it does for me. Okay, so actually, I do. Sorry,
I do know, and I just got really excited. Okay, let's go.
I knew he was building something. Because he went
silent. He went radio silent. Usually, usually, if a guy like
Alex or or Spurlock goes goes, they're either dead or they're
working
on something. Yeah, we're both both.
Hey, cloud. So Cloudflare is what he's using for this in the
sense it you, you put this prefix on to your enclosure?
Yeah. And so the first so what it ends up being is HTTP s colon
slash slash op three dot dev slash, ie slash, and then the
full URL of your, of your of your enclosure. So that so that
it hits the OP three dot dev server first,
right? And then it registers basically your user agent,
information,
user agent and anything and any URL parameters. And anything
else that's in the header. Okay, so basically, it has that has
full access to everything that's in the HTTP request. And
it's not tracking IP addresses or anything like that.
So that's where it gets fun because it is track it. So what
it does is it you hit you hit the OP three dot Dev, I'm gonna
say server in quotes, because it's not even really a server.
In the traditional sense, you hit mp3 dot Dev, it registers
the download records, all of the information that it wants and
trans trans, you know, magnifies it into whatever and Then it
forwards you at three, it does a 302 redirect to the final
destination so that you this or that you get passed off to the
correct conclusion.
Ah, okay, so I'm seeing here time you UID hashed IP address,
ah hashed IP address hey now cool,
right? No, that's hard. No IPs.
But this is unique. Of course, this this hashed IP address is a
unique IP address. Yep. Of course, we don't know if it's a
NAT or if it's some, you know, some other type of hub thing.
You never really know what, what's behind it. But I guess
that I don't know what I'm talking about
was told me to shut up. Now the source notes a good point,
because these are this is what things like the AI based
specifications, tried, one of the things that I tried to do is
look at source IP addresses and still do some filtering, when it
comes to collecting stats from them so that you can say, Okay,
this IP address is corporate. So most likely, there's like 150
users behind this. Yeah, exactly. We need to treat this
differently from a residential IP address, blah, blah, blah. So
there's an aspect of it, because so so that still exists. And
that still has to be dealt with. And, and he's going to say he is
open source. So that's the first thing to know all of this is
open source. Anybody can contribute and make these
changes and help him make these changes. So it's purely open
source, meaning it is also auditable. It can be audited,
and he said he's triggering the deployments to Cloudflare from
GitHub, so that you know that the thing you're seeing on
GitHub is actually what the live code. That's
cool. Cool. So it's really just a Cloudflare hack. So it's not
really you said, it's not really a server. I mean, we don't need
to go too deep into it. But it's See, this is the thing with
Spurlock, he walks around and he's, you know, he has a little
you think he's a little goofy. And then he's, like, this guy is
a genius. I mean, I would love by the way, you know what I
mean? He's just unassuming very nice. I mean, doo doo doo doo.
And, and then this holy crap. He's got some weed that he needs
to share
with. This was there's there are there are geniuses within
podcasting? Oh, heck, yeah. Oh, my goodness. Yeah. Like legit
genius, real geniuses. Yeah. And somebody, you know, somebody
like Alex pops out with a pod ping, you know, with a pod ping
Docker that you can run on Google. And it's like, what the,
you know, it's like, this is one of those things. So if you it's
running running on Cloudflare workers, which are sort of like
Amazon lambda functions, meaning that you can
you can run JavaScript do a very one function, only one very
small instance for Yeah, I got, yeah, one
font, yes, one function and it spins up the runs the function
and then goes away. They're ephemeral effects, ephemeral
code that just runs valance on Cloudflare is infrastructure
cool. On but it runs on the edge, meaning that it runs in
the local data centers where we're where it's triggered from.
Yes, I see that as an edge colo parameter that's passed off and
I see a lot of Dallas Fort Worth, and I see a couple of
SUNY
Atlanta, there's like 200, and something novels
dop, listening Cridland go to bed.
There's like 200, and something. Edge data centers for
Cloudflare. Because we're global. And these things run
locally, so that you get by default, you get region you get
region coverage. So you can say I've got this many listeners in
the Atlanta region
in Fort Worth, is there an export to Excel option? Yes.
Know, yeah, no,
I love the JSON. But it'd be nice to have an export to XML.
Yeah, that is coming down coming down the pipe. So and then you
have he's also he's storing it in I forgot the name of it. It's
like there, it's not there. key value store, durable objects as
it Cloudflare durable objects, which is a distributed database
across all the colos. So I mean, this thing is, is very
lightweight from an from a
from marine resources standpoint,
yeah, it's heavy on Cloudflare system, but they, but they have
the bandwidth to do it. And they make it available so that it's
not cumbersome for you to run as an administrator.
Where do you think edge CoLo? Y Y Z is located?
No, that's Toronto. Oh, you know what? No that no.
Because you're the pod sage. I don't have to question.
No, sir. Our, our, our guest, I think we have a guest in the
lobby. Our guests can back me up today. That is the origin of the
song. Why was he by rush?
Oh, do we want to bring our guests in already? I mean, our
guest doesn't know how to talk. I mean, he's not going to be a
dud.
No. Yeah, I would it can we send Can we send Travis out there to
get our guests
on a second? Let me see if I can ping Travis.
Okay. Do you like how I used a used a male reference name to
for the assistant instead of
open the door Travis. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome to the
official board meeting of podcasting. 2.0 The man who you
thought you knew from his podcast, but it turns out, he
has a Wikipedia page. This guy is unbelievable. And of course
the host of the intergalactic boombox, please say hello to
Kyle ybert Hey, hey. Oh, there he is.
How's it going, Kyle? Hey, it's
going great. How are you guys?
Yeah, we're good. We're doing good. I'm amazed that this is
working at all having having all these different, different
streams coming in at the same time.
Oh, yes.
Yeah, firstly, in feed. They do so we do use clean feed as part
of your professional work.
Actually, I don't sometimes I've used different things like Zen
caster and things for like podcast interview type stuff,
but for myself, I'm all 100% Post produce, so it's me. Yeah.
And Adobe Audition.
And you're aware in Burbank?
Yeah. Burbank, California, everybody now
How long have you been up? There? I am. Sally, because I
live I live there I live right near Burb? I live in the hills
overlooking Burbank.
Oh, nice. Yeah, like at the top of the hill is that that radio
tower and on the other side is the Hollywood sign.
You've got it all man. You've got the dream. You live in the
dream. How many homeless tents are there?
It keeps growing every year. It's amazing. I'm telling I
moved out. I moved out here in 2005 from Dallas. So basically,
I'm a Texan even though I'm from Louisiana, Lake Charles with a
bear is a common name like Smith or Jones, though. Sorry, Dave.
Yeah, you gotta you gotta come in last name.
I do. Yeah. Yeah. When I told when my wife we met. We met in
Moscow and came home and she said, and she said, Mom, I told
her mom, she's like, Mom, I met a guy in and her mom was like,
Oh my God. And you know, like, she met a Russian. She's like,
No, no. She was like, no, no, no, he's from he's from here.
His name is Dave Jones. And she's like, tell me the truth.
His name is Igor. It's
such a generic name you know? So I've been told that the way you
properly address Hollywood people is to say Kyla, love your
work
you have to add a man to the end there it's got to be more love
your work man. Really love it. They still say that? They still
say it that way
they do i i make more of a living going to conventions than
I do for actually recording vo but yeah, there's a lot of
people that will say you're the voice of my childhood. Because I
started back in 2000 with this little independent anime show or
a little tiny called Dragon Ball Z. And it's it's it's fandom is
stronger than ever because the movie this summer Dragon Ball
Super superhero was number one I week it
was released. Congratulations. I got a lot of questions. I have a
lot of questions about your career if you don't if you will
indulge I know it's a little bit outside the boardroom we'd like
to know our board members and see it as you know depending on
your answers possible increase in benefits so you so you're I
mean, and I put a link to your wiki pedia because people got to
see this. Your filmography is an you know, that includes anime
live action series, animation, film, video games. It's
unbelievable. And I've and I've tried, here we go. I have tried
for four years to break into voiceover work. You clearly
figure it out. And it has to be it has to be for the voice as
you can do because I mean, that's you have so many
different I mean not just Voices sounds you can make. This is
this. Yeah, you've been doing all your life.
I have. And ever since I was a kid watching Looney Tunes and my
dad telling me about Mel Blanc, it's like, oh god job I want to
do that. So growing up in the 70s, I'm taking a little
cassette recorder I'm doing you know, silly voices, fake
commercials playing DJ with the turntable playing kiss records
and all that. So I was always fascinated by theater, the mind
stuff where I could entertain, and entertain without being seen
because I was really shy and really introverted and
everything. So I turned, you know, the shy kid who just keeps
to himself and grown up during the high school years being all
about metal and Iron Maiden, Judas Priest. Yeah. All that
good stuff. Yeah. How
old are you Kyle? I'm 53 Okay, so we're in kind of in the same
vein, right? Because I have a similar story from started home,
you know, with with a tape recorder very interesting. So
Dragonball Z, that was your breakthrough.
That was the breakthrough in terms of voiceover. I was a DJ
first on radio, Disney. And I was already on this.
So you got the programming. I got
the programming. University of North Texas I got a bachelor of
arts and Radio TV film that turned into a internship with
ABC Radio Networks and was going up and down the hall over on
various formats from top 40 to classic country to heavy metal
to kids radio. Oh,
dude. Finally, I meet another DJ who made it out. doesn't happen
often. Usually they die with a U haul attached to the truck.
Oh, they do. But the great thing about satellite radio is, you
know, it was it was it was stable. I mean, yeah, the local
level. We're sending syndicated national feeds. This is years
before Sirius XM. And it's aimed at small and mid sized marvels,
dude,
I'm telling you. I mean, I used to send out CDs every week for
my top 30 hit list. And before that, of course, it was records.
And there's always some dude who wants to be a DJ who have to get
up at three in the morning on on Sunday to go into the station
and then put my show on. And that was our Cintiq. And it
works. You know, it's distributed throughout the whole
country.
That's right. And you, you know, on the local level, you'd be
like, You got to have your FCC license and you mow the lawn,
and you're the program director slash, you know, Mark, to juggle
everything. Back in the days when mom and pop operations were
a thing.
Good times. Yeah, good times when when radio was still radio.
And with podcasting, we've we've approached the same kind of need
from a different angle somehow. Maybe it's modernized. Now the
radio is so much the car I think in general.
Yeah, yeah. Oh, when? When you basically kind of reinvented
radio for the internet. So when podcasting dropped, it was like,
Hey, this is radio for everybody with an internet connection
around the world instant distribution for free. You know,
none of this
and no money. FCC lies and no one no money. It's just like
real radio. Yeah, exactly.
Exactly. Monetizing. What's that page?
One more question about this. How do royalties work with video
games?
There are no royalties. We call it residuals. There are no
residuals with anime or video.
I'm sorry. Yeah, residual. Yeah. Oh,
no, no worries, let's
buy out and shut up. And that's it.
That's basically it's like, here's this really obscene ly
low fee. Now actually animes, the obscenely low fee, you can
get as low as, you know, 50 bucks an hour, and you're done
recording in a couple of hours unless you have a recurring
role. And even then you can't really pay rent on that. So the
people that are making a living with anime usually are going
around the country or the world sometimes at these conventions,
you know, selling autographs and photo ops and they're able to
monetize that way. So I call conventions, the residuals for
anime and video games. And so
now, are you allowed to use the brand name in your appearances?
Ah, yeah, don't ask Nortel and one of those tricky things.
Yeah. One of those tricky things. Man arts.
Yeah, right. It's a gray area.
I bet there's dynamite groupies at those conventions.
I'm happily married, but
I'm very happily married. We can still talk about dynamite
groupies. Come on Kyle.
They're all there. But the thing is, yeah,
the real group is pulling eyes for the female characters. Those
are the groupies.
That's true. That's true. And back in the day, you know,
conventions Comic Cons, comic conventions, anime conventions,
was almost all dudes. Yeah. And then in the 90s and 2000s. It
started becoming appealing to younger ladies. And I like to
say that was just because these dudes that scored hot chicks
ended up just dragging them kicking and screaming to the
bed what you're doing this weekend.
I got a, I got a fun idea.
Yeah, you're dressed up as this, like who's this and like, trust
me, you'll get it. You'll get attention for it. And then
suddenly they liked it, you know, way before selfies in
social media. It's like, oh, you walk two feet. People want to
take your picture, walk another two feet. People take your
picture. You don't get anything done. But yeah,
so it's so you do intergalactic boombox, you showed up pretty
early and really with a with a great podcast for the mission.
First of all, you're super talented. It's 10 minutes. So
you just want to listen to it every single time. And you're
using all the 2.0 features. How did you? I'm sure this was
obviously not your first podcasting foray.
Um, the that's I say, right, right. Dopo keep that on the
agenda the other day? Oh, God, I forgot the question. All right.
Yeah. Is this your first question is, is this your first
podcast? And the comment is surely not.
No, no, back in 2005 or six. I got so excited because I was
listening to Adam on daily source code and learning about
podcasting and everything. So So me and my buddy started the big
ball broadcast, which was geek News Central, we just go back
and forth talking about geek news, because geek podcast are,
you know, a dime a dozen. And so it didn't, it wasn't really
successful. But you know, we learned quickly that you don't
get into podcasting to make money, you do it because it's
fun. And, you know, if you can build an audience, that's,
that's icing on the cake. So I did that for a few years. And
then you know, just like anything else, you get a little
tired of it, you step away, and then step back in, but God as
soon as you guys started podcasting, 2.0 the podcast, I
was glued, I was listening. It's like this tech, I don't
understand that at all. But I really want to be a part of
this. So I would listen and do research about Bitcoin and the
Lightning Network. And it started to click like, almost a
year later, but it's like, this is a reason this is gonna light
the fire to make me want to come back to podcasting. I want to be
able to do something. I'm a voiceover actor. That's what I
do video games, anime, and we do live action Dubs and feature
films and all that we come in and we're anonymous, basically,
you know, we're not the celebs we just come in, and maybe you
might see a quick, you know, additional voices credit. If
you're lucky. You have to pause it
these days. What bastards? I like watching credits because I
know some people in in the business. And it's also I mean,
if you watch it on TV, they throw it in the corner, or they
roll it at 20 speed. It's really rude.
Yeah, and then the screen minimizes and it's like, it's
getting ready to go to the next episodes. like wait, I want to
see I know people don't count you don't count.
They don't count. That's my daughter too much waiver. Oh, we
went to see Dragon Ball Super the other day. Great. You did
awesome. Man, you Yeah, we loved it. And so we were looking at
were we waited, watching the credits. And it was all the all
the Japanese names, just all it just just showing up for the
entire credits. And then there's like it ended. And then there
was one still shot of all the American voice actors. Yeah,
that's all. Oh, well. One shot or at the end.
Okay. It was actually inserted in other countries that don't
even bother
us like they throw up a JPEG of the American people, you know,
do this standard.
Yeah, yeah. Sadly, like dub cast for for taking American shows
and WM into French or Spanish or whatever. Those guys get
credits. But for some reason the American cast is kind of tossed
to the side. They're an afterthought. Now I get it with
Dragonball Z and anime stuff, because that's primarily
produced in Japan. And we're just doing an English version
for people who speak English and don't want to read subtitles. So
I understand. But yeah, it would have been nice to be like one
one singular credit roll with everybody, you know, because
there's so many 1000s of people that work on these projects. And
at least Marvel got it right. They'll get people to sit
through credits to watch you know, posting. Yeah, I
agree. That is a good development.
Like, don't leave you're gonna miss out now. But
you were building your own feed, I guess because you were so
early. There were no podcast hosts that could do a feed with
all the features.
Yeah, I trusted my friend to kind of look up how to do an RSS
thing. And we hooked in through iTunes, of course, and I don't
think there were very many other outlets back in the day. And we
used archive.org to host the files and you know, it never
became an issue because hardly anyone was Sit
and have I don't know about for intergalactic boombox.
I have since learned some things. Oh, here we are I I
heard about you guys talking about different hosting services
and I ended up being with Buzz Buzzsprout I really liked what
they're doing. I listen to buzz cast and all that and I liked
that they've integrated the images and chapters feature
which makes it very easy for me to to upload that stuff. I just
type in the info and there's probably easier ways to do that.
But I'm not a programming guy. So I don't know how to do all
the all the fancy stuff and heli pad and all that in hosting your
own node that's above my paygrade so I did I hooked into
the telegram with the
Satoshi stream.
Yes Satoshi stream first Yeah, and then got in with Oscar and
then with fountain it's like we can host your feed like Oh, okay
I see what's going on here.
Excellent. Yeah, that a cast of
Whoa, lo
she got he admitted fountain.
Eggs. No, of course. No, I love all of our apps. You know, I
love helping people onboard through fountain but I also love
to date someone said, Hey, man, I really love fountain but I
can't I got visually impaired I can't see shit. And I love being
able to say Oh, check out pod verse. Mitch has actually done a
lot of accessibility stuff. I mean, I love all these options.
That's what makes it so cool.
Yeah, and I plug new podcast apps.com Like, like a crazy. No,
you do. You do.
Now? Have you ever monetized before with your podcast? I love
the word. Have you ever monetized? Kyle?
I love monetize everybody. No, no, that was that was back in
the day when it's like, here's her Pay Pal email. And it's
like, crickets for years. That's like, okay, yeah. But I admitted
myself, I was a fan of all these podcasts. And I didn't donate to
anyone. So it's like, how do you how do you do this? How do you
try to. And then came the concept which you guys, of
course, invented with value for value. And that concept kind of
started sweeping and hearing about it more elaborated on with
your various guests of all these wonderful apps different for
different read great for different reasons about value
for value, and how you're trying to get your audience on board
with this great concept of hearing. If you like the
content, what do you think it's worth? And yeah, Apple and
Spotify in them. They're not paying attention to that. And
it's like, okay, but look at these developers. They're doing
perfectly functional apps that do things that the big guys
aren't doing. So it's like pulling teeth though, getting
people to try new apps much less try new podcast, but
oh, yeah, no, it takes forever. In fact, with Korean the keeper.
I mean, we're at the these, this is a group of people who listen
to that show. They don't use an app. They Oh, yeah, they just,
oh, just give me a link and don't just click it and then
just place and, and so I've been arduously have been onboarding
them. And you know, it happens often that Tina will get a text
at 10 at night like okay, how come I can't send Satoshis from
the strike from the strike wallet into the pod verse is
it's hard but that was the same 20 years ago with podcasting 1.0
And we had to literally walk people through how to Subscribe
to How To Find The feed which involved a website
Yeah, and and now is the uphill battle of trying to convince
people you don't have to convince them the value for
values a difficult thing to understand but trying to
understand Bitcoin that took me years to Yeah, and unfortunately
the the fandom that I speak to on social media platforms,
they're all very anti Bitcoin. It's like, oh, it's a scam. Rip
off this like, oh, yeah, they're, they're not into it at
all
over there into NF T's.
No, they're very anti, as well.
Really? That's funny, I would have thought that the you know,
that the enemy crowds, you know, who would have thought that
those was made for nfo? Yeah, that seems like a natural fit
for some reason.
Yeah, some of my colleagues have tried to do in that and they got
so much hate that they instantly pulled out of NFT projects.
Well,
I think I think it's probably the nature of people who are
really into anime and this type of stuff. This genre and yeah,
and I think for them Bitcoin has just been branded as toxic toxic
bros, you know, they they they make crypto kitties. Yeah. Kind
of like that. That's a feat. Does that does that ring ring
true at all?
Yeah, like there's a vision of 20 something 30 Something
hipsters that that. Like they just walked out of high school.
They're millionaires and they
don't wear socks and don't wear socks. I hate that look. Yeah.
By the way, I have to read this book. histogram from blueberry
33,333 SATs we are actually on route to a convention crypt
crypto crypto calm right now saw Dragon Ball Super Hero super
superhero was it super superhero?
Yeah talking about super super hero
super superhero in theater and wow this movie had one of the
all time greatest scenes in the series as a whole when go hunt
go hunt that's your character go hunt Yeah, was informed this
daughter had been kidnapped holy bejesus, I was clapping
Yeah, Gohan has been a character has kind of been in the
background teaching and being a good husband and a good father
and all that but the crux of the Dragon Ball is Who's the
strongest character those strongest fighter and go Hans
always had this potential. He was strong as a kid. He defeated
one of the big bad guys sell back in the day and fans have
been waiting for go on to be great again. So for years I've
been saying when may go on great again, because he's not the main
character. He's the son, the grown son now of Goku, the main
character, but Goku and this other character Vegeta are kind
of like the big stars of the show.
And while he wants to explain it all to me,
that just sounded like Shenron the dragon that thanks, grants
or wishes, wishes when you gather dragon balls together,
I can have a career in enemy.
Yeah, yeah. Well, as long as you can do that, yeah, there's,
there's all sorts of tricks. We remain anonymous. And people are
like, you're doing this voice, and you're this voice and this
voice and this voice. But we always try to tell people it's
not about doing voices, it's about being a good actor. You're
a good actor, and you're not a douchebag and you show up to
your sessions, and you're good, and you're professional, and
you're directable and all that fun stuff. You know, put good
karma out Good Karma comes back your way.
It's hard to break into its it is just looking at your your
credits. Man. It's amazing. What a career. It's really
phenomenal. I'm very, very impressed.
Thank you. And it does take 10 plus years to be an overnight
success. Yeah,
of course. Of course it does. Well,
it sounds like you what you did was you took your your early
days of podcasting of geek news, and all that kind of stuff, and
2.0 and the researchers to come back, and you just kind of merge
them into into a thing that it was just for fun. It doesn't
sound like you're trying to make this. It sounds like what you're
trying what you have now. But what you've what you've built, I
mean, you were 65 episodes. 66 Yeah, we're
now at 70
just posted today, Saturday, okay, to say, after 70 episodes,
like what you've ended up with, is a really great mark, you
know, marketing mechanism and, and, and channel for you, for
your fans specifically to hear more of you on a weekly basis.
Where it's sort of a, it's not really it doesn't seem like to
be a monetization thing really, for you. It just seems like to
be more of a connection mechanism and fun.
Yes, yes. Because the fans that go to conventions, they're
they're starving to get to meet the heroes of the industry that
work on their shows with not just voice actors, but artists,
directors, producers, you know, music, people, all that sort of
thing. They just want to feel closer to these, the people that
are blessed enough to get to work in this industry. So yeah,
the podcasting thing is a great platform because I was very
fortunate to kind of build a following on the convention side
and the fandom side, and and tried to lure them over to
something else because other voice actors have had success as
musicians. It's like, Hey, if you watch me on this show, I do
alternative rock and then suddenly their band is doing
well because they got a bunch of fans and then they
Yeah, if I may. Yes. intergalactic boombox seems like
a perfect place for Gohan to educate people in value for
value and podcasting 2.0 particular really does
particularly value for value I think. I think when someone says
all people don't like Bitcoin, I don't like those of the people
if you can convince them if you can show them the light.
I would love to make my characters that I don't own a
mouthpiece for such great.
I just met I met I meant in general just more I think that
you can really do a lot of onboarding because you could
make it really fun.
Yeah, I'm trying to I'm taking the concept of a podcasting
spaceship. intergalactic boombox is a name that I'd used back in
my radio days. I used to pretend that I was on a on a spaceship
and blasting heavy metal and I called it the intergalactic
boombox and I would talk to my own characters. I had an alien
back in the day we use reel to reel tape here remember this
datum? Or do I'm sure it's splicing with a physically
splicing with a razor blade and a grease pencil marking the
exact points and get those like I want to hear There's a
Metallica flyer and then I'm interacting with myself I'm
scripting parts for my little alien character to come on board
and I put the pitch up so it sounds more like you're beating
a drunk engineer character that's low pitched and drunk but
now all that stuff's here with filters and stuff on all these
different interfaces that and you know you got road caster Pro
and can sound demonic on demand or like a chipmunk
you do a lot of a lot of posts on the show on integral 100%
Post
Oh, yeah, yeah, I scripted first, and then I recorded Oh,
yeah, yeah, it takes about between four and six hours I bet
it turns your crank out 10 minutes then I'm going through
YouTube and converting hopefully royalty free sound effects
we all do it brother we all do it. I love when when you're when
you're trying to record something off of YouTube and all
of a sudden like It's like sound effects from keeps coming in
every single time. Yeah, you try to clip around it yeah, we've
all done it Yeah,
yeah. But But keeping that that the love I've had since
childhood for theater the mind love an old school radio shows
from the day the shadow and the worlds and all that stuff and
and now that audio books and podcasting have really caught
off as a genre itself true crime and audio dramas to or Apollo
app and all that. This is like a new golden age for radio for
audio of the mind and everything.
Do you think that I have as anyone really successfully done
a real proper radio drama? I mean, so a lot of the crime
stuff comes very close. But but but without narration, you know,
really just were you it's truly like a soap opera that is not
narrated, it opens you, you understand the characters.
There's dialogue and it closes and then you wait for the next
episode.
I don't tell you and even date you and meet us did Christmas
Carol? That's.
That's right. Yes. Yeah,
that was that's what I mean. Something like that. Yeah. That
was fancy. Yeah.
Yeah. audio dramas or radio dramas from back in the day
because radio is, you know, it is what it is. Now, it's it's
certainly not going to host storytelling. But you have, like
I mentioned before, the Apollo pods thing is like this hub for
audio drama podcast. And of course, they're all hosted on
all the other platforms too, but just go to central place. You're
hearing things that tell a story. I think a great example
of audio theater is Neil Gaiman's The Sandman, not even
this is a year or two before the Netflix live action adaptation.
It's audio. And of course, the script is adopted to you know,
paint the picture, where characters have to kind of not
clunkily describe like, well, let me get this paper. And now
I'm going to write up and write a letter, you know, it's a it's
not spoon feeding you everything. But with sound
effects and a great score. And, of course, a great cast who can
act, it's not just about doing voices, you're you're you're
making an audio movie. And it doesn't always work. But when
you get the right team together things like the Sandman or all
these other audio books that get turned into it. Star Wars was an
audio drama on NPR in the early 80s. And it was fantastic.
However,
there's there is there a difference between the audience
is I mean, I know there is but I'm asking really for, for the
technical side of things, because, you know, we have the
medium tag where you can tag a podcast feed as being a certain
type of content, music, audio, book, Film Video. It, would it
is it appropriate to put a different medium tag of like,
drama or audio drama, because it sort of stands as its own thing.
It's not a book. And it's not a podcast, is
there a way that Chapters and, and other namespace features can
be presented differently that would create a different
experience for an audio drama? Yeah, that's
a good question. And I guess my question always has has been as
you guys have evolved, podcasting. 2.0 is, well what
does tags what is the purpose of tags, honestly, because I I'm,
I'm kind of trying to put it into my head is tag like a
search kind of thing.
No, I'm sorry. So when we say tags, that means it's one of the
features that podcasting 2.0 has added. So chapters. So that's
the chapters tag, and that just means it's just kind of a plate.
It this is interesting, Dave, take notes to take note of this.
So that's when we say that on this show in the boardroom is
really just the transcript tag. So what we're saying there is,
how would transcripts work for you? That value for value, the
value block is also a tag. So it's really when you hear that
out of our minds it just means feature. Okay. So
in the x, it's on the XML, it's in the XML of the RSS, there is
a, there's literally a, a piece of code in the XML feed. That's
called transcript. And it references where the transcript
file is. So that the podcast app sees that and knows, oh, this
podcast has a transcript, it'll know to go get it. And every so
you could like, the medium tag would also live inside of your
Buzzsprout feed. And you can say, medium audio drama. And
because in when the app like pod verse, or cast automatic are
found, sees that, that tag in the XML in the feed file, it
knows, oh, this is an audio drama. But this is not a normal
podcast, this is this is music, or this is a drama or this is a
video or whatever.
So it helps the hosting service kind of curate know the unstart
really for the list? No,
no, no, it helps the app, understand what content the this
is a very good conversation, what it is what content the
creators made available. So when you use Buzzsprout, an app,
those are Apple, Apple go. But you get an app like fountain,
he'll say, oh, okay, there's a value blog has got transcript,
he's got chapters, okay, I know how to display all that. Here it
is. It's really, it's really part of you. So when you
publish, if you publish chapters, you know, that's you
pushing that out. Same. Same with all the other pieces, even,
you know, a location tag or a person tag, all of that all of
your content that you're creating at the hosting level,
and the apps are the ones that receive it. And so what I'm
trying to figure out, is, if you have a type of content that we
already are talking about music, so you would have you use all
the same things that you would on Buzzsprout even except,
instead of show title that will be track title, instead of
season, it would be album title. And but because you put the
medium tag in there, which means Hey, this feed is is music, then
the app knows oh, I want to treat this more like a music
player. So that's a very defined example. But when we're talking
about Yeah, enhanced video or audio projects, in that case,
you may want the transcript to be more visible or not visible
you may want to have characters pop up and maybe not go away
from the screen I don't know I mean, I'm I'm just shooting from
the hip it's so open and so wide open that it just comes down to
what can what can we dream up? Yeah,
well, you guys talking about the music thing and whether it
should be you know, findable in a podcasting app or whether it
should be its own thing. I was thinking maybe it should be its
own thing to for help people to go to one central location to
find value for value artist. I talk about podcasting 2.0 It's
some of my panels my q&a panels because I'm trying to you know,
spread the gospel. Thank you. And sometimes the Their faces
look a little glazed over but I
talk yeah,
I get that at the dinner table believe me.
Yeah, but if I say hey, you listen to this album, you love
it. So you didn't buy it but you're paying a service to
stream it like Spotify or whatever. But what if you had an
app that did the same thing? It's streaming you the music,
but you say I love that guitar solo I want to pay that
guitarist some money then you can do that you can use it there
and donate directly to the musicians or the band and
altogether and same thing with
Hello. So
I hit the mute button sorry.
I like what just happened I'm pressing buttons here I'm like
what did I do? What did I do?
So we hit the impede the intergalactic
boombox ran out of fuel there it is crashing from our stationary
orbit. But yeah, I'm surprised the the big of the record labels
in the music industry haven't thought of this but of course
they don't really think about oh
please no you're not you're not surprised new
I'm not surprised it's like no Taylor Swift we want to find
another way for you to make millions
Well, that's what so you can I mean, it's coming from the
Hollywood side is interesting because you like this is part of
that has been saying lately that you know what I got a clip oh,
let's go to clip EJ was to clip it on this now this is going to
be interesting to you Adam. Because this is I'm just going
to add forgot his name. But I'm just going to call him NPR dude.
being interviewed and Sam interviewed him.
Oh, the Oh, NPR. I don't know who the NPR dude is NPR.
NASM
Oh, yes, I know exactly. whoever you're talking about because I
heard this reference, I heard that okay, I think,
Okay, hit hit solve everything.
One of my many CEOs that I served with when I was at NPR,
as last CEI service name is Dr. Oman, he had an amazing career
in media. And he's to always have a phrase that he would use
that I rolled my eyes at first. And then over the years, I found
myself quoting it all the time, which is nothing solves a
problem like a hit. He's like, there are problems with business
models, there are problems with relationships, there are
problems with the ebbs and flows of business. But if you make a
hit, a lot of those problems, either go away, or the options
become much more interesting, and you have much more
opportunity to figure out what the options can be. And so his
saying that implied focus on making hits. And I think that's
why is the advice that not many people in podcasting are taking
right now. Because podcasting right now is a hand to mouth
industry. People are like, I need downloads, I can get
advertising and I just need to shovel as much cash into my
mouth as possible. But they're not thinking of like, very few,
very few, I would struggle to think of anyone in the podcast
space right now. We're just thinking of like, what do we
want to be three to five years from now? And how do we make
decisions today, that will put us to be the leader in the space
we want to fill in three to five years. That's the type of
thinking that is missing from podcasting. Right now, for the
most part, it's all quarter to quarter how do we get next
year's buys? Or how do we even scripts and things like how many
people do we get in? People aren't thinking about?
Yeah, a couple things. First, so this is a he left, a couple
years back, Yarrow Mon. I know him very well. He hired me at
MTV, only his name was not Yarrow mon and Carl, you might
know him because he was a big guy in the 80s in Cleveland on
the radio lemasters to remember lemasters a name a real top 40
Pure graden but a real top 40 pukalet. Everybody Yeah. Wow,
whatever it was, yeah, pretty much. I liked this a lot.
Because that of course, was ultimately what MTV ran on. Its
business. And when I started pod show, which turned into me VO,
by the way, the what's the X anchor guy name? Who? Who keeps
saying RSS is no good. There's no innovation was that guy's
name? Oh, Manyana Yeah. So he said Oh, no, all podcast it'll
all be video dude. been down that road. We did that. And
guess what? No, we we switched a whole company from audio to
primarily video. And now stick with a stick with audio. But
this headspace business is exactly what everybody's doing.
That's what Spotify is trying to do. That's what a cast is
designed to do to some degree. That's what I Heart Radio is
doing. The podcast industrial complex is in fact, a hits
driven business. And that's all they're looking for. And
absolutely right, a hit solves everything, then everybody's
happy. And you see now that after a while you get it you
know, you get a hit like Joe Rogan, which they purchased,
then it's very hard to get another hit. They tried it with
the Obamas man wasn't really hit. He didn't really work. Till
Yeah, that's a great clip.
That the the what confused me? Because he starts out by saying,
You know what the hit the hit solves everything, the hits, you
know, people aren't thinking about the hits. And I think what
he was saying is, at first at least was, you know, three to
five, you need to think three to five years down the line. And,
and then, you know, you need to think about your hits. But
we need to hit right away. Yeah. And
I'm like, well, that doesn't work. That's not the way that
work. Works. Nobody's thinking three to five years in the
future and will clearly I mean, podcasting. 2.0 That's all we do
is think about three to five years in the future. Yeah. And
so I think then you're on Todd Cochran said recently, and I'm
gonna give him a lot of credit for this. Every time I can, as
he said, You know, I've been thinking for the last, you know,
10 years about and building for the 97%. And he said, he now
realized I need to build for the 3% because that's a forward
looking longer time. Yeah,
there you go. I'm glad you brought this up. Because there's
something that I've been thinking about and working on.
And it comes on the heels of our conversation about dynamically
dynamic ad insertion on the last board meeting. And we're saying,
hey, is this a success? I mean, is it working? And so I've
learned a couple things. So you have your disparate people so so
you know, if you take advertising Then you're going to
be working with CPM, which is a very odd word, I don't know why
they still use the M, it stands for cost per meal, which is
French for 1000. I don't know why they still keep that in
there. So it's cost per 1000. So that means for every 1000, in
this case, downloads, I believe that's still the metric in
advertised podcast industrial complex, you get a number. So
the, the more number, the more 1000s you have, the more CPMs
you basically multiply that by the CPM dollar amount, and
that's what you'll get, or you'll get probably 60% of that
70. So there was this number floating around 23 $24, which
I've been hearing for a long time. Now it turns out and I've
been listening to all I listened to pod land, I listened to new
media show I listened to what's the Brian Barletta? What's that?
Sounds profit is profit. I'm sorry, I travel a lot today. And
so that's for host reads. And the host reads, it seems like
this people are trying to transition because brands are
becoming a bit wary about the host read it, you know, it's
great with a superstar celebrity, even then it can get
a little complicated. They love anything that comes from a radio
company, because they know the radio company has to adhere to
FCC rules. And so they're not too worried about brand safety.
And so now we have the dynamically inserted
advertising, which it seems I mean, I not sure if I'm, if what
I'm hearing is, oh, Microsoft seems to be buying a lot of
that. And then it's like, Well, really, it's just all very kind
of minor advertisers. Some it's still kind of direct response.
The CPM for that is significantly lower. That's more
I heard Todd Cochran say, between 10 and $15. And I'm
thinking that's what they're hoping for I have a feeling it
may be closer to between five and 10. Right now, I don't know.
So that we're done, and that's for programmatic, right. And
so and the idea, and the idea is that everybody should be able to
get programmatic. There's like, I should say, hey, I want to
flip on some ads. I've got 10,000 downloads a month, that I
should be able to get some advertising money. So if you
have 10,000 downloads a month, that's 10 CPMs. That's 100
bucks, right? The 50. Well, yeah, could be Orpheus. So of
course, that means that there wasn't that your your inventory
was sold out. That means that you know, it was you have one if
that's if you have one ad, if you can have four ads, I guess
you have a midroll there's different prices for that. And
it's very convoluted. Got a lot of different options here. So
you have to you have to make all those choices. But the problem
with the advertising community, is they want to know, okay, I
want to advertise on stuff, but it can nothing can be firearms
related. You know, it's not like people are talking about killing
anybody. But we just even if they're just talking about cool
guns, we don't want to advertise on that. You can think of
multiple scenarios. So and this, this is what I was hearing
across the board, these podcasts, brand safety tools
that are in essence going to create a code for your podcast,
you will be labeled, I heard it over and over again. Even though
Todd Cochran says he won't do what I believe it. And it'll be
green, if it's good to go yellow if there's sometimes some if you
stop or read if you'll never touch. So this is the antithesis
of what podcasting 2.0 is. But I'm trying to figure out a way
to bring your comparison into the money part. And I think I
have it, I did some work. And I did a lot of number crunching
and this is why I'm very excited about the Opie three dot DOS,
I'd op three op three dot Dev, because now I can get a very, a
much more concise handle on my VPN. This is the metric I'm
launching.
I knew this was coming by the way you did not tell me this,
but I can just see I can read melted carbon, right? Yeah.
Remember the force? Yes, the
value per meal, the value per 1000. So So, but it gets really
fun when you do it. So if you take so that the metric is 4% of
your downloads, that is that is the amount of people who are who
are who are boosting your or sending you value. Whatever you
get, you can safely assume that's about that's the average
is 4%. So I did some work across all shows. I don't have all the
numbers. I do have some very concise numbers. I can tell you
across this kind of with some very solid data and some other
data that I'm guessing about, but I think, oh, op three dot
dev will help my VPM across my, my podcast universe is $30.51.
Yeah. And, and the numbers. So I would say it's safe to say,
around $25. So close to a host read. But what's interesting is,
you know, so the VPN is not set by an advertiser, the VPN is a
metric. So when you start off, and you have only 1000 people,
or maybe 100, your VPM, depending on how well you ask,
he's actually going to be much higher. It's kind of cool how
you start off when you just start off with value for value,
your VPM is incredibly high. And the more people you get the,
that starts to lower off to taper off a bit, but yet your
revenue goes up. The whole thing is, once you do the numbers, and
you sit down, and it works out every single time, the number of
downloads, times 4% That's your VPM and you should it should be
around $30 That's, that's what you'll be able to get. So if you
have 10,000 people. That's so what's 4% of that?
4000 people is 400 people
400 And then you multiply by vs make it easy. 30 So now you're
at 1200 say that right now 12,000 Now I'm confusing myself.
It's four. It's got to be 40 It's got to be 40. I can't be is
it 400 math corner.
See? Oh, I know. I'm sorry, I calculators I
see. Yeah, no, I see what I did. This is why I've discussed this
on the show. Okay, this worked this 30 Now, okay, this, this is
where it gets this is where my my everything falls apart. I
still like to bring in my, my 30 VPM is really runs a if you if
you do apples to apples for here's a here's how I did the
full calculation and then you tell me if we're gonna work this
back. Okay, I said all right, if you do a show weekly, and you
have four ad slots so you come up with a number at your 24
That's actually a pretty decent number you're making some really
good money the 4% of the of the downloads that actually that
turns out to be an annual amount or monthly amount. So what's the
monthly versus the monthly but once you put it on the annual
scale it's it's like it's predictable how you're going to
grow and how it's going to work what I need to do is I need to
get all the all the OP three data for this show so we can
show it to people because you know this lesson we can gladly
show you what we're making because we thank everybody with
the dollar amounts you will see that you're you're so much more
profitable even at a very very low audience really with 100 or
500 people you're already making much more than you could with
with advertisers certainly with ad insertion
we should we should do that in software like autumn yes yeah to
where it shows a dashboard we
yeah
yeah just like the Bloomberg lady we can have a dashboard and
that shows instead of brand safety it just shows the VP the
running VPM telling you that because we got we do now now
that we have we've gone off the rails Calif sorry now that we
have the this the OP three and you marry that to the value for
value yes
yeah
then you can calculate it coming in you can just click calculate
on the fly. Yeah, because we because we have all the debt we
have all the booster grams and all the streams for
luck. This is an Umbral app this
is no don't do that don't don't don't get in that okay, you can
you have all the booster grams and streams that are stamped
with the podcast episode data so you know exactly which episode
was donated to yep you can marry that up with Opie three data and
you can calculate on the fly you can you have a running
calculation of your VPN I love it
and it will be something useful useful because you can then I
mean, goodness this the get Alby or this get Alby Saturn stats
now that that's populated Holy Cow Have you been looking at it
Dave?
Yeah, well, I've been looking at it with my head and shame
because it makes hella pad look like a chump.
Well, just on the well just on the no helipad has look heli
pads
x unit you're trying to make me feel better night yeah
but it's true. Because I thought about this because you because
you said heavy pads piece of shit compared to this you'd
already mentioned was no because heli pad is it look heli pad
first of all is real time as it comes in, get LB is, you know
it's calculating, it's buffered, it's cached, it takes a while
for stuff to come in. heli pad is a real time live experience.
heli pad has cool sound effects heli pad has really good. That's
really good confetti, that doesn't that doesn't ruin your
browser after three hours, like get out because they have
confetti but jams your browser the memory leak,
the fact that you're trying to make me feel better about it
makes you feel good. I love you. Most importantly,
I'd love you to most importantly, you have an export
to Excel. So that is fantastic.
Oh, well. I'm just going to claim superiority. Now, you're
surely
about with products. But what I like with get LB is that and
it's something that we've discussed, I think from maybe
Episode 10, maybe even lower than that. We talked about this
idea of a timeline. So you can see the streaming sites. This is
really informative. It's really good. It's very interesting to
see where people I think in some cases, jump into the show or
jump ahead. Of course don't know exactly what's going on. But
it's it's phenomenal. It really is. And very mysterious moments
are counterintuitive to what you'd think it's it's good
stuff.
Well, the best thing about the Opie three knots. Now I'm not
going to boil anything down. That's that's that's douchey the
one of the great things about Opie three is that he baked in
ulit support from day one. So the ULI D if we can get if we
can get all the podcasting 2.0 apps supporting Uli de mer that
that takes it from now you're not talking about now, you're
not just talking about downloads. Now you're talking
about something very, very close to actual listens, right?
Because the ULI D, the ULI Oh,
you can match that or you can match that to yes, no, yeah.
And you can you can filter it down and say, Okay, I just want
to see unique UL IDs for this episode. Because the way the ULI
D works is when I download if it when my app downloads an
episode, downloaded, downloads the enclosure, it ran it
generates a random Gu ID string and attaches that as a URL
parameter every time that it downloads the every time it
downloads or streams the episode. So that means that any,
and in the future, if it ever read downloads that episode, it
will attach the same URL. Nice. So you can say if you just
filter your URL IDs, you can say okay, everybody that every URL
ID for this episode was a unique listener. And that's the thing
that the stats industry does not want. They don't want those.
They don't want listens to show up. They want downloads, of
course, because the download numbers are way higher than the
Listen numbers.
Yes, sir. And we're not we're not here. We're not to crush the
advertising industry at all. Don't get me wrong. I hope
everyone's incredibly successful. There's definitely a
place for advertising.
But I think you I think we'd be lying if we didn't say we want
it to be a little more honest. Well, I'm
just interested in the real data. I'm just interested in the
truth about that. Yeah. Okay, more on No, I'm just we're not
trying to be more honest. We're interested in the truth.
Yeah, for yeah for I mean, like, so. Kaldi have any idea what
we're talking about.
Let's see.
He was there when something melts he was you was chatting
with
Yeah, I was trying to catch you off guard behind you.
You did he was muted and he was leaning back.
Yeah. Yeah, this is a trigger trigger very sensitive mouse
here. It's like I click it mutes me again.
What you know the reason I brought this whole thing up with
the clip and and all that kind of stuff was because you coming
from Hollywood, podcasting as an as the podcast industrial
complex, is trying to become Hollywood they really want to be
Hollywood enough in I feel like, you know, like, like Adam says a
hits base business. And they want to just recreate you know,
we saw the podcast taxonomy where everybody can get the
credits and all this because they really you're trying to
recreate hi in pod chaser wants to be IMDB. Like they really
want this Hollywood thing to happen within podcasting, and it
had an award shows
they already believe it. They already believe they're there.
They will start rolling But it's just based on companies that
have made no profit or no firing their employees because they
have no profit.
So but from your standpoint, Kyle, I mean, like, yeah, you
use seem to sort of escape to podcasting as a way to have some
relief from the Hollywood stuff. I mean, like, can you speak to
that whole comparison there?
Well, you know, just being a fan of the entertainment industry is
something that I just love covering and putting my own spin
on with, with what I do for a living and, and, and to make it
again, a theater, the mind sign type thing. But I'm noticing
that a lot of these conglomerates are very attracted
to when celebrities want to do a podcast, you know, okay, maybe
it doesn't work for the Obamas. But it works for smartlace. With
with Will Arnett and Jason Bateman and haven't things like
that. And then they suddenly get a deal with Amazon and whatnot.
And it's like, Well, okay, it's hard not to be kind of cynical
about it going well, okay, they got an instant following,
because they've built their whole Hollywood career as on
screen camera people. Now they're working in the podcast,
but they happened to be good storytellers. And it makes good
content, just like Team Coco with Conan O'Brien and
everything, and Marin, and all that they happen to make good
content, because that's what they come from. But it doesn't
necessarily always, you know, turn into, you know, big, huge
returns on on advertising and everything. And that's why it's
a hard sell for, for the average Joe, or people that are normally
anonymous, who happen to be working in a big industry like
myself, but you know, we're not big famous celebrities. So but
this is like, if they don't have the numbers,
this is the great news. The numbers game, the hits base
business can happily exist. Yes, go at it. It's perfectly okay.
You don't need homepage of iTunes, or number one in the
Rancor, you don't need that you need to convert. Again, from the
new media show, Todd said, Who was it that said that let's go
and put up a white noise podcast and, and still had 400
downloads, you know, it's like, people will listen to stuff. So
if you can convince a couple people to listen, and you have
that feedback loop, which you know how that works with you as
a radio guy. You and then with value for value? You can you can
sustain. Yeah, can really do. My wife and I have the number two
set sprayed podcast this week. We start with we're not on
iTunes, we're not on Spotify. We're only in the index we you
know, we we tweet before we start the show. We've promoted
nowhere else. I don't talk about it on any other this one I do.
And it just grew. Yeah, it's your old washed up DJ, you know,
I hate it. When people say, Well, you owe to you. You're
already famous. Now. No one knows me.
Yeah, but that's this great thing about value for value, you
have this great infrastructure. And, you know, I wasn't getting
a lot of hits and downloads until fountain started letting
people advertise within just on that. It's like here, we're
gonna highlight your clip, or we're gonna highlight your Yeah,
and they're getting Satoshis for it right when they make the
clip. Yeah, incentivize. There you go.
I mean, you gamify it like that? Yeah. Okay. Listen to your
podcast on this app. We'll pay you. Yeah, that's why I think
it's easiest to try and onboard people by saying, all right, you
don't understand Bitcoin? That's okay. Here, go to fountain.fm.
Download this app, start listening to your favorite
podcast. Okay, well, now you've accrued X number of sets. Now,
how do you want to spend that? Do you want to just take it in
and pay yourself? Or do you want to give it to someone with a
value for value enabled come podcast?
Nice. Hopefully, that
sounds attractive. I mean, it sounds like a great deal. And
it's such a different model that maybe people are trying to have
are just having a hard time putting their head around that
it's like, Oh, so you guys don't have ads? It's like no, not
necessarily. We're trying to
Yeah,
well, but again, it's it's the relationship between the
podcaster and the audience, the the listeners, or as I like to
say producers, that that's what it is. So, I mean, for instance,
we can with certainty, say that y y z as a colo location is
based upon the airport code for Toronto,
and a great rush song. Excellent.
Excellent, there you go. That's how we really know about it. So
we thanks, people. burn out. Let me do some of these live boosts.
Oh, here we go. So let's see what just Yep and well getting
well it's it's it's Darren O'Neill. He comes in with
101,010 SATs I have Oh yeah, we'll give him a little big
baller for that. Shot Caller 20 his blades on I am Paula. I have
the perfect face for podcasting. He says oh, here we go and
please order all of your listeners to tune into planet
rage this week Larry blender and I have a lot of fun and have
just hit 50 episodes. So there you go. There's some advertising
there's value 5050 Indy metus 10,000 SATs and he actually was
watching the chat. He says that his daughter Leila. You know
they do the show together. Fun Fun fact, Friday that she here
I'll read it to you verbatim. Leila just realized the skills
she has learned from the show. They do the show together have
real world value. She's reading at a college level in seventh
grade. All right. Excellent.
reading at a college level.
Exactly. So we did the blueberry. Oh, that was actually
Gary Arne to send us 10,000 SATs with the y y z airport code for
Toronto. A 10,000 fermitas A Carl sherbert boost
I don't get the reference. What is the
well see on my intergalactic boombox podcast. I have
characters that totally mutilate My name all the time, like
kindred spirit. Oh,
yes. Okay.
And we got a row a duck's from Eric peepee. 22,222 another
blueberry 17,776 Goodness gracious, great boost of fire.
He says Chad F with 1000 hard hat with 10,001 on one he says
lit in the third pod versus when we just kicked it off. 10,033
sorry, this wrong one I'm reading here. Another Chad F
10,201. And I think that covers the the lit booster grabs. Thank
you all very much. And if you're just listening to this, I think
the pod cast app that does it best right now. Or actually did
did pod verse get the chat in there? Is that in the new
version? Yeah, it's in there. Yeah, so yeah, I gotta check
that out. So pod verse will give you alerts opens up with the
chat you can boost right there. Curio caster is fantastic. If
you're at the desktop, it has all the bells and whistles. And
of course, we'd love for you to return any value that you feel
the project is worth the podcast, the board meeting.
That's just just a report card to you. All the work is in
podcast index.org podcast index dot social, and I'm sure we have
some more people to thank Dave.
Oh, we've got some C. Then I'll save this rant until after the
donation. Okay. We have a donation from rss.com from Ben
and Alberto. Okay, would you like to know how much this
donation is through? This is a PayPal fee off on coupon
donations.
I have my hand on the button.
$1,010.10 which is 1010100. Man
Oh, shot caller 20. His blades on I am Paula.
He says for Adam and Dave. We're we're glad we connected at
Podcast Movement with you and so many others. Look forward to the
next time we get together. We're with you in spirit until then
your friends at our ces.com Go podcast, podcast.
So nice. always there to help. Thank you so much.
And because I know you like it, Ben.
Yeah. Everybody loves your paper. Crinkle
little asthma. Thank you, Ben and Alberta. Appreciate it Mr.
Roberto in Dallas, but want to see him next time. Thanks, guys.
Franco Celerio Celerio gave us $100 Nice cast a medic
development. Yeah, no note, but I emailed him and thanked him
and he said he had some really kind words. And he said that's
the least he could do. Thank you.
Where's he going to Italy again? Do you remember where he lives
is near Milan?
Man, you you know it better than I do because your sister lives
there?
Well, no, she lives in a few Enza. But we're planning a trip
next year. And I was like, maybe. Sorry,
you and Tina. Yeah.
Who else? Who else would I go with you and your girlfriend?
Thanks, Dave. don't bust me bro.
Did you grew up in the con groupie? I think
it'd be fun to see we're gonna hook up with with Franco.
Yeah, that would be great. You'll get some business or Pay
Pal. So yes, Mr. Graham's, we get Mr. Roy Schonfeld coming in
with 543 to one area is a breeze app. And he says Did you know
you can use breeze to create podcast clips?
Yes, this is new. Yes, it's new. They have their point. He got
someone in there. someone's doing stuff because I know Roy
isn't doing he doesn't really like us. He's just he's no, I'm
just kidding.
He nobody actually likes us. This is still just Yeah. smoke
and mirrors. Yeah.
Okay. Yes. Actually, I've been I've been using the breeze app
for a couple of things. You know, it's I like the breeze.
It's my The first thing I check out the show any show that I
post, I first go to breeze. I don't know why. But if it works
on breeze, then I know it'll work everywhere else. Are they?
Are they using pod pain? No, they wouldn't use pod thing.
No, they No, no.
They just take. Yeah.
What I what I use briefs for the most is discuss discovery of new
value for value podcasts. And I keep up with what's going on
with them. Because I use all the apps, a daily driver is cast
ematic. But I use breeze a few times a week because I tried to
go in there and see what what the trending stuff is because
the value of breeze to me is that it only shows value enabled
podcasts. It does not show anything else. Yes. So you can
really drill down and find out what's going on in the value for
value world.
Good point. Good point.
Let's see we got
I forgot 2222 from lyceum. Three hours ago. I was reminded in the
in the chat. Thank you. scrolled off drive, we went way down. I
couldn't find it.
Is anybody in the chat? Is anybody in the chat? Chatting
from pod verse? That would be interesting to know.
Good question. I'm just a plain old IRC client.
Okay. In a millennial, send us 5555 And he says, I believe the
children are the future.
So do we Man Thank you.
Drip Scott, send us 55 555 Thank you, Jared. Very nice. Hope Adam
had a great birthday boost.
Shirt demand. Thank you. Chat F is using the pod verse chat.
Kyle, what's it like hearing you're hearing your voice on
every every podcast? Like, I guess you're used to it because
you hear your voice all over the place anyway.
Now, dude, I'm totally just just honored and everything that you
know, I could. I thought of those clips.
Oh my god, I just had a great idea. Oh, oh, we need to market
a digital cart machine, jingle machine. So I've got a little
panel here. And I've got three and like, like 20 different
little squares and number 16. I teach that as boost. When I hit
that number 16 Every single time I hit it, I want to send you 10
sets why not? And why not? Why not? This is beautiful. You
build it right and you build it right into the to the you know,
to the jingles somehow. Magically. He said yeah. Is it
done yet? Dave? We developed it as it was it was residual. Yes,
it's a residual.
You saw how it almost blew up my own bro. You want me to blow up
your road caster? I don't think George Orwell sin is 1111 a row
sticks and he says are you guys coming to the Bitcoin Conference
in Amsterdam? Not
know, it's October. I have an invite. We're both invited.
The problem with me is I'm tapped out as far as PTO from my
day job. I'm gonna be able to go to stuff.
I'm tapped out on travel. I just hate it so much. Yeah.
See, we got 3333 from Jean Everett. And he says cheers with
a little beer emoji. So we send us some virtual beers. Thank you
SLC send us 66,667 Nice he says value he or she says value for
graphene OS info. I'm on a Galaxy S nine with Android and I
want Google lesson my life yeah, thanks for letting us listen to
you and nerd out go podcast.
Go podcast. Yeah, it's good stuff, man. It's worth worth
looking into.
Okay with my with my perfect Dutch I'm going to pronounce
Kinesia Can you say yes, yeah, well done. Getting better. Okay.
7777 through fountain aces. Love the podcast. Cheers. Renee.
Kanika.
Very much Renee. Can you
boost boost, can you? Utrecht Utrecht? Yeah. Very good. hacky
I can't do it.
You're good. Well, I'm going to take you there one day. And
we're going to put in a little Dutch boy wooden shoes and shit.
On a bike in your basket on the handlebars,
Oh, that'd be great. Yeah, that'd be wonderful. Thank you
love the podcast from the Netherlands. Thank you. Thank
you, Renee. 22 To 22 from anonymous, their cast Matic
Thank you anonymous acerbic sin is 1000 SATs from through
fountain he says,
Oh, there's one thing we haven't done in a while.
2222 from an anonymous through cast ematic Thank you anonymous
33 333 through another one from SLC nine repeat customers is
taking marketing money puts you into an open loop control
scheme. WR T you're can't wait with regards to Okay. Let me
start this over. Now that and understand what acronyms I'm
using. Taking marketing money puts you into an open loop
control scheme with regards to your content consumers. No
feedback. The company with the product being advertised gets
feedback and sales numbers. Not with the for V. Let's feed
forward people. Ooh, nice.
I like that. And I liked it. Yeah, like very much.
Don't just stand there. Boost. PTR 880,000 sets, bro.
Nice. I think he gets a baller for that. Wow. Oh yeah. shock
collar blades on the Impala now say that number again.
880,000 says
Whoa, what's the occasion is that like that's like the
biggest boob donation I've ever seen.
It says this is their Kiera Castro he says looks like the
looks like of the one mil only 120k actually was spent let's
try again for the 880 balance 880k balance well once again no
need to read this on the air I must have missed the first one
then.
So I guess there must be one for 120 Somewhere we had this
message
and they have been alive boost I wonder I don't know but I feel
like there's a battle going on between Peter and drips god
yeah and I endorsed this kind of fight this is a very good fight
to have we're very
Yes Get your channels ready five
I just want I saw this come in actually I saw it on heli pad
because I'm always monitoring and heavy pads my favorite app
to monitor my booster grams with this way but I put this through
I was looking
at Albion aid
I forget I force you to use it. I don't recall the 120 going
through which is weird. I don't I don't recall seeing well and
that's not so much about I want to read his message I want to
make sure we get his message read
boy said just like he says once again no need to read it on the
air so he didn't even want the original. Okay, well
Holy crap. Thank you so much.
Thank you Peter. That was Yeah, yeah, I do I fully endorse this.
This battle. Yes.
So so we're going to be number one on the leaderboard. On the
fountain leaderboard. Oh wait, what did he boost was with curio
Kassar now we fall by the wayside. Oh, that's fake news.
Man. That's a fake news chart.
Yeah, it's no no as James would say is incomplete rancor.
Incomplete. Incomplete rank. Nailed it.
Peter, again with 44,000 sets. And he says 44,000 failed on the
last boosts. Here's a funnel mate. Good.
Wow, okay. I wonder what happened.
There must be an origin boosts somewhere that he's now
following up on in multiple rounds. And
the prequel is coming later.
It's pretty cool. Yeah, yeah. Wow. He went full. Super Saiyan
mode or whatever. That's cool. Adam See 9099 That's you. Hey,
that's
me. You also read my test boosts
me Sal 1000 SATs man we gotta read it. Mere Mortals podcast
7718 says Thank you Bill Withers boost just the two of us. Oh,
well, because
we were singing all that so. Oh, man. Thanks. Just
the mere mortals podcast return boost. 5858 That sounds like a
birthday donation is what that sounds like. Just need to say
that 5858 boosts will go directly to Adam to be used to
buy cake and candles. Extra birthday boost.
Thanks. If you don't mind, we'll just throw it all into the into
the node that's okay with you.
Yeah. James Cridland 1001 sets to fountain and he says pod news
covers the average cost per 1000 for programmatic ads 2351 last
month and also how well they work which is mainly research
for The podcast industrial complex
thanks James.
I don't care about any of that other stuff he said I just I
just appreciate that he used the term.
In fact one time for the one time
fire 100
a dynamite dry Cridland joke Very good. Yeah me. I relaxed I
blew out the microphone even for a minute they're
relaxed males in his 22 to 22 Mega rove ducks and he says
playing catch up playing catch up and enjoying the discussion,
though it goes way over my head. Adam, Dave, thank you for
keeping podcasting awesome and showing the world that there is
a better way What was that song? Was that song from the 80s
there's a better way you and for me and the entire human race
What song was that
one time for the ones no idea we're sorry your cat in an alley
that was very hurt.
People die for the living.
We are the world's children. Come on. We are the ones
that Cyndi Lauper knows Dionne Warwick came in first.
And then Bob Dylan can't forget Bob Dylan
do Bruce Bruce do Bruce the boss Bruce?
Oh man, MTV baby.
Oh goodness. Oh good.
See, the relaxed male podcast helps men get rid of their nice
guy in their real life. Get rid of the nice guy in their real
life and start living life on their terms. Oh head over to
relaxed male.com that just
that sounds like men going their own way.
Yeah. Relaxed male. Big towns like a barber shop. Like like
one of those Yeah, take male barber shops where they you know
you get the you get the shoulder massage and the NALSA could be
could be sir Doug 10,000 SATs. Thank you, Doug. No note. Thank
you, sir. Thank you. jaunty ms 2222 through Brees says I'm
boosting from graphene OS
Nice.
Boost boost. It works Gilligan since 100,000 SATs through
fountain and he says Happy 100 better later than Better late
than never boost yo, boost. Steve in Bradenton Florida is
what he says thank you, Steve 1000 SATs from Gene been
cashed ematic gene been?
It says, damn. Now I've gotta go figure out what happened to
Podcast Movement.
Oh, welcome to the party. Yeah,
all right. Oh, Jean being held his button down because he's got
about four boosts of the same message there. Okay says oh, gee
mean, again. 5000 says he's for cast ematic. He says, Even if
this readouts content is driven by anti tick tock, there are
aspects of it that EFF and others have been calling for
years. I hope those parts those parts progress impact our US
tech companies.
Well, this is playing out right now with eff Electronic Frontier
Foundation. He's talking I think this is going back to what I was
bitching about tick tock while not bitching but pointing out
that they're taking Silicon Valley's money. And man, there
was just there's like there's they had a tick tock, lawyer,
Lady show up in the Senate being grilled. Really? Yeah, yeah,
about that. So are there any Chinese nationals who have
access to the data and saw such bullshit? So it's theater
here, here's my favorite tech press. Bullcrap is. You know, we
just need we just need senators. Oh, Dave.
Let me see. Are we still streaming?
That's a good question, sir.
Oh, yes. You're still here. Okay. So, yes. Okay, good. Oh,
that's good. Dave will I'm gonna have to, he's connected. I'm
going to you know what it might have been his. I'm going to
pause the pause for a second. All right, froze. So Dave, your
computer crashed. Yeah, we had a lot of fun at your expense. And,
and we got something special for you.
At least at least once every other show that serve this.
Some people get a boost Dave gets together
okay. Oh man. All right. Where are we?
I don't know where did that well?
Oh crap. That's a good question. Hold on a second. Let me look
you can pick. So now that we know what it looks like,
gotta give me a moment to reclaim the emotion of that rant
that I went on for another 45 seconds after
and I'm sitting there looking at your dead feet and like he's
still talking he
is talking like a mofo.
Alright, do you think you can get back into it? Do you need
any motivation? Kyle? Can you give him some? Your the your you
can coach him through this?
Well, let's see. We're doing a pickup as we call in voiceover
so we'll we'll wait. Adam, if you could play that, that one
string again. And then Dave, you match the tone and inflection of
where it cuts off and will seamlessly Frankenstein magic. I
wish I wish I could. But I'm actually I'm actually recording
on the playback machine. And it's just not gonna go. I know.
I've got to
pay it. So I've got to pick it up cold. Yes. Cold.
Yeah.
That is that is essential and voice acting if you're a good
cold reader and improv. Yeah, you're off to a great start,
sir.
Okay. You want to know something that bothers the crap out of me?
Oh, please. We're very interested. This just came to me
out of the blue for, like, I've not thought of this before, and
especially not three minutes ago. This, what drives me crazy
is the tech press bullshit. of you know, if we just had more
informed politicians, more tech, more tech and foreign
politicians, you know, they just don't understand the tech.
That's the problem with the with the bad, you know, bad
legislation that gets passed as they just they just don't
understand. So if we just had more in well informed,
technologically informed politicians, they would pass
better laws, you know, they would everything would be great.
That's not how it works. People, if you just because you see
legislation that has passed, that doesn't make any sense to
you, in seems counterintuitive, doesn't mean that is actually
ill informed. But all it means is you don't understand the
money flow. Because when when law when laws are passed, and
when laws are proposed. This is something that everybody needs
to understand the concept of a juicer bill, when a law is
proposed, it doesn't or even passed, sometimes. Sometimes
it's irrelevant. What the actual effect of it does, is in the
real world, the only intent of the legislation is to trigger
money to flow to one, one campaign or another. That's all
sometimes it's about Amen. Yeah, the bull the bull crap of the of
the comment, I just hear this all the time in the tech press,
you know, well, clearly this politician just doesn't
understand the technology. They don't care about the technology.
They care about the money. And I'll
tell you that what I saw Senator Hawley doing I don't know who's
lobbying him who's paying for his reelection campaign or so he
can be on the committee's you have to pay millions of dollars
to get on these committees. We have to pay it into the into the
DNC or the RNC in this case. But he was doing such a performative
piece of crap about China and the CCP. And all this is is to
get rid of tick tock. It's Silicon Valley removing tick
tock, that's what's going on in Washington DC right now. They're
going to remove Tiktok because they're taking all their money.
And it's probably because tick tock doesn't have any lobbyists
in Washington. Bingo, Bing, and I bet you they will give them
give them two years. They'll have a whole bunch of them and
then those and then those, those Senate committee hearings, they
will they will suddenly stop. Okay, here. Yeah. Sir, twin
screw gave us 40,000 SATs and he says the tax export topic was
very informative. Thanks, guys. Oh, talk about tax exports.
Yeah, sure. We did. Maybe that was intergalactic boombox that
tax exports go
against? Yeah, it was unless I was referencing the Phantom
Menace or something. Oh, the taxation. Yeah, no, no, I never
talked about.
Okay. Well, thank you. Thank you. I appreciate it. Thank you
for the for the boost. Oh, okay. You're 50,000 SATs from Todd
Cochran.
Holden hice. Thank you.
Todd says I've talked about this in the latest new media show but
very much against something similar to nutrition labels
being applied to podcast to determine brand safety right.
That's what I continue to be concerned about podcast
listeners safety from specific advertisers that sneak their ads
through proper programmatic platforms. But purpose purposely
Miss identifying the content of their ads.
Oh, this is the this is the reverse problem. The reverse
problem of dynamically inserted ads is you tag what your your
product is. And so a show may say I don't want any casino
gambling, for whatever reason, I can't get enough of it. But we
don't want any casino gambling ads. And if they mislabel and
say well, really Las Vegas tourism ad, but they're a casino
gambling ad and so that shows up on a dynamically insert ad and
that makes podcaster unhappy. I know Todd's heart is in the
right place. I know that he's doing this for the for the
little people. I know that because I know him this and when
I say the little people that's like us I hope I really hope it
works out I really do. But you know all that work will not be
for naught and you're putting 2.0 in so there's always a
backup plan.
Yeah, the escape hatch the value for value escape is exactly
the escape puppet you pop it the escape hatch to the
international lifestyle.
Yeah, when everything goes bad you you pop this jump out
example hotel just what he says example hotel that slips in a
gambling ad but only listed as a hotel ad. Yeah. Yep. Live value
for value. Go podcasting. Oh,
sorry. I was doing too much. Give you a little lightning
boost there.
Thank you, Brother Todd. Lyceum 2222 through fountaining says
with value for value dot info. You have the ducks in the row
2226 symbolic gesture
free launching value for value dot info. GG and I have been
working on this and this is still some stuff to be changed.
But take a look at value four number four value dot info.
Yeah, I'm very bullish on this on this work. Eller do you all
y'all both have a really good way of boiling things down into
memorable pithy phrasing, that really helps cut through, like
cut through the fog, you know, I know this is gonna be a great
side
and organize all this stuff and put into that site. I did none
of that work. He did all of that. It's amazing.
Let's see. He says I mentioned your new site in Episode 56
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comes in with 807 Do you know what that is?
lopsided boob?
No, it's boot boost food. Awesome. Nice. And that's it. So
I just had an idea. We have the we have the GitHub repository,
the GitHub with all of the all of the booster Graham stuff is a
lot of stuff in there. All we need is a simple web page
player. And when you hit the no matter who it is, you log in
with Alby do with Alby? There you go. So you log in with your
Alby on that page. And then when you're doing your booster gram
when you're doing your, your donation segment, your ask your
booster grams, then you just bring up that page. You can do
all those boosts and every single time you hit a boost, it
fires off a byte to be determined by you amount of SATs
from your out b wallet.
I would use that. I love it. Yeah, yeah, I like that a lot.
That cow you are like the master weaving in you know it's booster
related on the fly sound effects through your you know made out
of your voice not you know not out of a out of a machine. But
do you do you pre do you do need that on the fly? Do you pre
recorded like what what's, what's your process?
No, because when I'm I'm recording directly into Adobe
Audition and I don't know how to do more than one input other
than my mic. I'm sure there's an easy way to it. I've asked some
engineers it's like well let me get on Zoom and walk you through
that because yeah, if you want to do a soundboard live as you
record Yeah, you're gonna have to do some some patching up and
I was like, oh god that sounds convoluted. I want to be able to
do that. But yeah, as as it is, I simply stick in the the pre
recorded stuff as layering and post in post.
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Thank you all very much to these boosters these monthlies the
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Maybe so maybe someone will remind me given go to podcast
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a lot of fun to be had. Okay, where are we at now? Holy crap.
So they've told me if I if I don't show up in like 10 minutes
then there's gonna be no more dinner for 80 Miles Okay, well I
have a feeling these guys don't mess around here and in Georgia.
You go negotiate the new bass bass coin blockchain
Hey, I'm telling you this is a great idea the beef I bet you it
exists 10 Bitcoin
a batch of beef corned
beef let's take a look right now. Hold on.
It's got to exist. Let's get to
but it is an act if this is a shit coin I'm gonna buy some
just to have it.
Beef coin a cryptocurrency for production of meat from the farm
to the table there you go. Yeah, it exists. Of course it does.
The Bitcoin project wants to eliminate the intensive
technologies used in beef farming if whatever's play Elgin
Dow or something, there's some crap like that.
Kyle brother, we really appreciate him coming on you
shared a lot of very different stuff. It was really good to
hear you kind of walk you through a couple of concepts
that we talked about on the show. Hey man, it really it
really helped us understand that we have to be careful because
we're just not understood. We use terms terms that means
something else in humanoid language I guess that was that
was very much appreciate you came and thank you for
supporting podcasting 2.0 with really with your time and talent
that's you can't do much better than that. I mean, it really
really fantastic we love it. And the booth Thank you. You are the
boost man
all that all that stuff? Dude, it has been such an honor to get
to speak with you and be on your show. Adam, you obviously you're
you started a whole genre of entertainment and it's it's
amazing. And Dave your other pod sage. You have been so cool. And
amazing and the dynamic between you guys and leading the team.
It's It's It's awesome. It's thank you so much.
I want you to say this. Love your work, man.
Yeah, love your work, man.
I was so sincere, beautiful.
I almost believed it.
Yeah, gotta work. Am I voice acting for 22 years? More
classes? Hi, man. You good? I'm good. All right. Well
have a great weekend everybody and as long as there's no
banjos, we'll be back for another board meeting next week,
same time, same place. Check us out podcasting. 2.0 See you then
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