podcasting 2.0 for September 24 2021, Episode 55 lightning
strikes almost no one's gonna do something like that. Hello
everybody it's Friday time once again for the meeting of the
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Hill Country Texas and then Alabama Don't call him a bro my
friend on the other end ladies and gentlemen Mr. Jones
now you're the expert expert in show openings. And I don't want
to I don't want to criticize
okay what I do wrong did I get the date wrong where to do
No, I think you missed the low hanging fruit. I did yeah, it's
the opening could have been we're all jacked up.
Oh damn
Dorsey.
Oh we can stop and start all over again. No cheating that VG
first of all I need to say apologies everybody we're late
with the show today and see there they are see the pissed
off there so they've been waiting outside they let me open
up the door for a second there they are. Come on in guys sit
down over there coffees one
the master the next board.
Oh yeah. 40 years. Yeah, so it was about 30 minutes before we
typically do the show. And I knew that my stepdaughter in New
York City she lives in Brooklyn that she wasn't feeling well she
stayed home from work yesterday tried to get an appointment at a
clinic couldn't get one at all yesterday couldn't get in until
this morning 11 o'clock and she felt really bad and so yeah,
she's COVID Of course she is fully vaccinated which makes
nothing but sense and and you have to understand that my
stepdaughter is it fits in Brooklyn complete liberal all
the way it's you know it's we've had tension in the family but
love each other all very much. We get along but we have massive
differences of opinion.
We all love our lives. We should all love our liberals in our
lives. Of course, of course. Of course they treat them well. So
then,
you know so that Tina had already kind of prepped her
yesterday saying you know if you're positive so I've got the
just sent to me, I might add by a no agenda producer, the
official Indian Silverado pack, which is a blister pack, it's
for four for 14 days. And the first five include zinc wasn't
some doxofylline I guess, or some kind of steroids and
ivermectin doxycycline doxycycline Thank you ivermectin
and and you know it's a little blister packs there's on the
first day you take the second day take these you don't take
every single one every day so it's completely that out for
you. So I had to FedEx that overnight. I had to get it ASAP
because you know you can't you think you can get ivermectin or
anything that will help in in New York City. Well, I got news
No.
Here in in Alabama, like so this. around the office, we have
some healthcare clients and around the office. One of our
clients put out this he's a well respected doctor physician, he
put out this paper is basically just a paper for all for
anybody. It's not like a medical thing. It's basically it's
written for Joe Blow and it's protocol. protocol. Yeah, it's a
protocol and he's saying, here's what we've seen over the last
you know, year and here's what we used to do and here's what
we're doing now and all this kind of stuff. So he put this
out a few weeks ago, maybe three weeks ago and then it says on
there it's like well we tried these things and we've been just
really didn't have much success and we tried this other stuff.
And so at the end of it he comes to a boil it all down to say the
only thing that is 100 like not 100% successful, but 100%
perfect always helps. Yeah, always helps is the monoclonal
antibodies.
hmm yeah,
that's what Joe Rogan told me to. Yeah, and the monoclonal
antibodies seem to be like the magic juice
like immediate immediate done like it kills them immediately.
Yeah, yeah. I mean and so and of course so then two, you know,
two weeks later,
yeah, they've limited. Limited that to Alabama, Texas to like,
no Di Di Di us. Well, you can you can imagine that. For me to
be sending her the Tucker Carlson approved horse dewormer
paste
did you send did you send Ritz crackers?
Some water crackers you know so it's actually it's kind it's a
very interesting way of coming together on a couple of things
she had texted me a few weeks ago he said what what is even so
messed up about the vaccine let everyone do it whatever they
want to do and Miss Miss like if you don't Vax I don't want to
talk to you okay. And I and I actually figured out what's
changing her some of her views slowly and it's a podcast which
one it's the Red Scare your heard of this podcast Red Scare
oh
no it sounds like a misinformation now Bonanza
it's it's to millennial girls women I think they're late 20s
maybe early 30s and honestly the way they talk kind of it's you
know it's not at all like the presentation style but a lot of
their topics are very no agenda ish. Really an odd way Yeah,
this you should check it out there they're interesting.
Listen to
Red Scare Red Scare. Everybody's alerted the Brookings Institute
at this point.
I think they're very successful they do Patreon I think they do
20 grand a month or so.
Like Yeah, get on that train. Yeah,
I want to be interviewed by the Red Scare so that's what I need.
Yeah, okay, we're changing the protocol in this podcast is just
Red Scare all the time.
Before we start with any any rundowns. I wanted to thank
Steven B again because we didn't really get to talk about in the
last show since we had to pre tape that you were on a trip
with your wife your anniversary How was it by the way how were
Chicago everything
is great. You want to get my Chicago stories.
You got a trip report or something? Yeah, of course. A
trip report.
Yeah, trip report.
Dave's trip report.
It is not worthy of a jingle at all. The we were there for let's
see, we were there for Thursday night Friday night Saturday
night as anniversary trip. So we went originally for Riot fest Do
you know this festival this music festival
who was performing it ride fest?
Well evidently it's a thing that goes on every year and I didn't
know about it but there back when we bought tickets was
during the summer. Maybe june july I forgot. And the reason we
bought tickets is Cosmo. Melissa is a big fan of faith no more.
Oh, and there are some Oh, I'd love to know more. They're
great. Yeah. Okay, so there's some other bands that were
playing as well that were like Oh, yeah, cool. So there was
living color.
With Corey Glover even though he went he went all country Oh,
cool.
Yeah, it looked like the original wanna say some faith
and more living color as Smashing Pumpkins when we were
like, hey, whatever. The Nine Inch Nails Damn. Yeah, it was a
good lineup. So there was there's quite a few of the
Pixies so it was a good lineup and we were like, okay, that
those groups we're gonna we're we're definitely want to see.
Well. So add from the time we bought the tickets till the time
we left to go every
everyone had canceled all of them.
So I think he's dropped out first, then Nine Inch Nails,
then. Man. Yeah, so then finally, but Melissa's like
okay, faith, no more. That's still the one on one. like three
days before we went faith no more dropped out for quote,
unquote, mental health reasons. Oh, okay. So.
So who was anyone performing was just a bunch of concession
stands. Well, we got a guitar plugin.
So we It was like, we looked at the lineup Thursday night. And
we were like, okay, there is one band, maybe one band that I care
about, kind of, you know, in living color. And I'm like, I
don't I mean, it's more of a novelty nostalgia play there.
And then there's
two songs and the rest all sounds like them. Exactly.
And then on Saturday, literally No, I did not recognize a single
band on Saturdays lineup. So we were like, Oh, sorry. Let's not
even go to this concert. We're in Chicago and we've never been
to Chicago. Neither one of us are you went to Chicago. museum
nice.
stayed at the museum all day on Friday. had had a dinner. So we
met you know, when we got married. We met in Moscow in
Moscow, Russia. So we
I didn't know you were an agent.
What do you think I'm doing this Yo with you. I finally wormed my
way in
to the gene is going to be pissed on his turf,
the FSB doesn't always communicate well with his agents
No.
Center did not communicate at all. So you met in Moscow? Yeah.
Yep. So we had for Friday night, we had dinner at a Russian Tea
Room. It was one of the best meals I've ever had in my life.
Was there a lot of pickled stuff and on identifiable meats?
No, no, it was at duck
off and I've had the Russian duck.
Have you like these duck wings or something? It was melt in
your mouth. Delicious. Yeah, we had a Georgian white one. just
taught
you brought that from you in a jug right? You hillbilly the
other Georgia. Oh, I'm sorry.
Well, good. You're where they hate crypto.
So it sounds like you guys had a good time. Yeah, we did. Renewed
your love and everything's good for another 20 years and they
never had a fight. Not one and I know it's great.
We almost we narrowly avoided getting killed Saturday night by
gunfire Asad hotel Chicago. It
is an exciting place to be
dude three o'clock in the morning. I'm having troubles I'm
having trouble sleeping because this is Saturday not because I
know we get to fly out early the next morning at like we got to
be at the airport at like 430 and so I'm having trouble
sleeping it's like three o'clock in the morning and somebody just
unloads both barrels like somebody went nuts while we look
in the paper the next morning or on the news there was like a
like a gang shooting a few blocks away Yes somebody just
drove by the house and just unloaded like on this house
believe it was great and then Merc kg has a wonderful
wow alright so back to Curio caster
Oh yeah, yeah,
because this is what happens with me this is what happens
with me and I keep forgetting to mention these things. So we
published this the second episode with the the Curio
caster RSS Jenny is like to call her the Jenny for almost
flawless we noticed one small thing where the link tag was not
changing in previous episodes importing is hard it's all the
problems in our in the import side once that works you know
people want to start a feed with this everything's groovy so we
fixed that went back republished a couple things. This is a
phenomenal tool. It is especially if you're testing
stuff and just want to you know, use your own feed whip up a test
feed with some different options, all the value block
stuff is in there you you can templatized it so whatever is in
the in the channel values you can copy and right over to the
episodes you have a starting point if you're if you're
changing that at the episode level. it's it's it's unbeli
it's fast. It's very intuitive once you get your head around it
because you know it's nothing you've ever seen before. And
it's just it's i think is ready for a hosting company to step up
and let's connect this to an API
Okay, so I got questions I got
answers were Radio Shack baby
Are you are you using it for no agenda?
No agenda I've used it for no agenda three times now. I've
used it for the most recent mo facts Yep. And yeah no I went
all I went balls to the wall well you you went away and that
Sunday I think was the the first one I published for no agenda
and you know how scary that can be because when you screw
something up with a million subscribers or so
I knew you were gonna do this when I left
Are you ready at any point to actually receive a call from me
going like oh fuck man, I need some help with something
not not at the Russian tea room you were on your own at that
time I would have done it. Melissa would have been pissed
but I would have done it.
I would not. I would have not done that. No, I
knew I knew you were gonna pull the trigger on no agenda Sunday.
I had I had to. So okay, questions.
Yes. Question number two. Is there are you putting episode
level splits in Yes, I am. This show once which ones have them
okay only. Right now only podcasting. 2.0 has the episode
level splits and what I did is I went back and home I'm just
gonna take a look here in the fire up the Jenny. It needs a
sound effect like a big generator. Let's see. So I which
is the one we had is the doggy Which one do you have open was
that 50? I
can't remember no 50 Now that was our anniversary show those
52
Okay, so 5852 yeah okay yes 52 so I put Oaken in the person tag
and then in the that's in the value I've got four people in
the episode level. And what's cool about the value block
editor is it has a little cheat meter up top. So it was a total
split percentage 100% total fee percentage 5% and so if you if I
put right now podcast index has 90% if I do that 95 then the
split percentage goes red it says 105 it I think it spits in
your eye if you don't change it eventually it goes you Yes, so
dribs in there for the five I put Curio caster in five not on
the fee side he deserves it I we didn't have a meeting I think we
talked about it maybe
though I see it here yeah it's on the it's on the main page now
like in the in the channel
yeah no i levels Yeah, I changed it in the channel now too. Yeah,
come on, man. This thing is beautiful. I was sad I got a
spray some SATs all over the place
Okay, so we have we have Curio caster supports item level
value.
That's the only one as far as I know.
Brees is working on it. I think I'm almost I'm almost 100%
ROI he actually sent me an ROI actually sent me a note Friday
or Saturday because I was Dave okay. As far as I know why?
Well, I sent him an email he hasn't answered usually he's so
fast to answer. Simmer down Donna Summer. Man has a life.
Yes, he sent me a note this morning. He's like, Hey man, I'm
not trying to bug you. Unless this fun is fun. I actually
close telegram and it's just been like, I don't think about
looking at telegram it's been
I hate I really hate telegram it's really my least favorite
thing I don't like how it works I don't like I don't like the
dislike of the big long stream of stuff and I get anxious I see
those 100 messages and I am out of the loop.
Yeah, cuz like I'm subscribed to balance of satoshis channel 3500
unread messages oh
my god we're on flow Sunday and you got to go turn off
notifications for everything you yeah because it bleep bloop your
phone just dries horrible
no experience but yeah, but I think he said I've helped with
the issue that he was having and then he mentioned that they're
they're working on the split Oh cool. Good Yes. So they're the
episode level splits once they go into breeze then that's a big
one because that's where a lot of the Bitcoin Peter will listen
and those are the other shows that are probably the most
likely to have them to begin with
right but it seems like everybody should be able to
implement pretty quickly
I mean I would think i mean you know everybody's kids a little
different but it does it's not a it doesn't seem like a hard one
cuz you just override is a pure override so when you when you do
an episode level split you're putting the whole thing in there
right?
Right so if I do an episode level then what depends so the
previous episode we didn't have a special guest so that's just
our our did we know we did have a guest we had a cook but he
didn't have a neither hasn't have no right. So I just left it
at the channel level. And the way you do it is if you have a
new episode, and you need to do a split or you need to do custom
persons, instead of re entering my name again, and your name and
our data I used to click synchronize from the channel and
brings it right over at the at the item level setting so does
that for person does it for value. And you also have a
channel image Sync button.
It may hoisted up to the top Yep. For the channel. Yeah.
Yeah, I'm looking at this
coolest shit, man. No. This is what I always dreamed of. And it
works and I'm sure no one else will want to use it as usual.
Some people use it when
whenever I really love like freedom controller to
your horn in me out of my my turfy.
Steven B gets it. He's gonna give you a run for the money on
speed. I'll tell you that.
Yeah, this is her. Grumpy I'm grumpy. Why
are you grumpy? I didn't mean to make you grumpy.
No, it's getting better stuff than I do.
Now. Now you, I will you and I, we decided in our relationship.
If we could see other people this, if we could see other
people will open. And, you know, it's like I had already not been
using your RSS generator for you know, once or twice and you know
now it's like now I'm with her,
okay. You start you start off, you start off swing in and then
they fall in love and you never see you
never again. But we share custody of comics through
blogger. So that's the good news.
Yeah.
I don't know where that came from. But anyway, I think this
thing is ready to talk to an API at a hosting company.
I need to I've got one question though. I want I want to use
this is Steven B is willing, maybe we get him back on the
show. I want I think this is the perfect way to test bit to test
bed. The live item, right?
Okay, hashtag. Oh, yeah, of course. Absolutely.
So he can put us like put a live beta,
but you're, but you're, you're hijacking the next step. I
thought we were going to take now you want to route around it
and go live. We'll do it live.
What's the next step? Well,
the next step I was thinking get a hosting company to integrate
the API. So you upload the RSS file and the mp3 file straight
to your existing hosting account.
No, that's too hard. Because that slows down my that slows
down the thing I want. Which is that makes me have to wait that
makes me have to wait for stuff.
All right, it and we'll do it live. Okay. We'll do it live
then. Would you live? Alright, we'll do live.
I want I want Okay, so I know you want it bad. You
want it bad. You want it? I feel we can only do live under one
condition. Because otherwise we won't do it. Right? We have to
have the booster grams. Working when we use the live stuff.
That's what you You took the words, right? Yes,
must have been while I was kissing, you know, very lovely
show today, Dave.
It is it's in the air. So my thought was that I'll make a
proof of concept page. And it will be something akin to troll
room.io something like this. And it will have the live it'll be
the live stream message I want to mark on a mock up a proof of
concept Super Chat, okay. And initially, it will only be it'll
only show booster grams. So it would be on the left side, it
would be like the player like the stream player, very simple,
very skeleton. And then on the right side, it would just be a
booster gram chat, and there will be no limit on it so that
if you no matter how much if you boost on the without a message
or with a message either way, it doesn't matter as long as it
hits our, our node, it will come through in it'll show, okay. And
then we we do the live thing we go. We go live, and then it and
then at that point the node switches to showing every boost
that comes in. Be honest.
Yeah, I'm all in. And we'll do it on this show this show this
show. We're going to live nice. Are you ready for that? Son? You
ready to graduate? You ready to graduate?
Yeah. No, I'm ready. I'm ready, dad. I feel I feel good about
this.
grasshoppers. That's the pebble from my hand. It's time to
leave. Yeah, good idea. All right. When are we doing it
tomorrow?
No, no, no, no, wait, no.
So Stephen has to bake in the live tag first.
Yeah, and I have to do a bunch code.
Oh, so that slows everything down. slows down the dream.
Yep. You're coming back on me and deserve it. But yes, yes, we
I think that's the way I think that's how we proof of concept.
This thing
was fantastic and be very exciting.
Then when we get them we can the next step would be put the
activity pub stuff on onto it. As a proof of concept, I think
we need this page. This live page is like a testbed anchor.
And where we can do new, we can just like sort of sandbox these
new things that we're trying to do that because all this stuff
is meant to be you know community it's meant to be Super
Chat ish. And so like what you expect when you He's super
chatty two things is you expect to go to YouTube and expect to
go to YouTube and see well you'd see a video on there we're not
going to do video but you would see that and then you'd see the
chats and all this kind of jazz flying around expect that
experience so I'm thinking we just make that sandbox and then
we begin to put in these things as we get them working in in in
like as a as a way to show everybody and have something to
visualize and comment on and everybody's like hey this was
cool but let's try to do this try to do this if your activity
pub stream is coming you know from from this other these other
sources they should come together in this way and bla bla
bla bla bla
What do you think? I love it I mean it's it that will in an odd
way will will create a cross app chat in a very weird way in a
very jacked kind of bootstrap way yeah that's fantastic let's
do it
no new to YouTube Super Chat thing is kind of like this just
wanted to do the same thing Yeah, well well I mean
specifically like you're seeing you're seeing the chats go by
dinner this the normal comments but then you see the ones that
are the paid
well that's most hosts only look at that they're only looking at
the Super Chat because there's too much going on in the regular
in the in the pledge chat. Okay Oh yeah damn done with a bite
you as a viewer you see it all yeah. So
I'm thinking that the activity pub or matrix or what whatever
we're going to use for me activity pub makes most sense.
Whenever we're going to use for the chat or the comment these
are comments Okay, comments, not chat comments, whatever wording
you use for the comments on the page that's coming that can be
coming from from other places activity or I understand I
understand and in the end in the booster grams the boosts come in
and they're denoted by some special you know visual
appearance and so we're
going to clearly need a confetti splooge
Yeah. Speaking this confetti splooge cast ematic Franco he
put the he put the confetti
oh good I don't have iOS anymore so I'm a little bummed
Oh dude, you should see it he did a really good job you hit
that you hit it and confetti just like explodes the page and
then it just sort of lingered
Oh slow float nice Yes.
fades away
Oh cool.
Good just riding here we're gonna have him on the show soon
we got to get Brian in London Oh first
I was I was all excited about the breeze boost and so you know
it's a fire up the new the new version of breeze and I like Why
can't I get to the booster gram and I just see confetti flying
all over the place because I'm holding down the boost boost
button thinking that that's the same behavior as pod friend and
Curio caster okay said I'm sending you know boom boom boom
1010 boosts in a row 1000 SAS wallet you know how you do like
did you hold down the phone on your phone camera too long
shutter that was I was literally spraying SATs like like the
Southside of Chicago
that podcaster was like God I'm really popular today. My shows
taken off
this is like here's here's Adam using here's Adam using a breeze
as me that's in there though. That I'm really happy about
that. That's very cool. And then of course this drops Yeah, I
guess yesterday. The lightning connecting to or really more the
lightning strike the strike API? Connect with Twitter. Yeah, it's
kind of interesting. I mean, it's iOS only from what I
understand. Again, can purchase or won't participate in that.
I'm sure you've tried it.
I've tried a lot yeah. made it a personal goal to get very
familiar with it as fast as possible last night so I could
speak to it.
Tell us what's going on what what exactly is is it it seems
like it's a little hacky, but it's a nice it's a step in the
right direction.
So I spent a summit today just sort of pondering it and and in
thinking about to get because, like jazz over at lightning
junkies podcast he's. I was supposed to be on his show last
night, and it didn't work out his timing. Got it all the way
but actually I was on the ipfs podcast Wednesday night.
Did you talk for a moment first with those guys?
I brought up crater Earth. Oh good. Yeah, it was like he was
like yeah you're
advanced
Have you heard of crater Earth? He's like no
we're talking about the announced with the Twitter we'll
be using the lightning network I'm just gonna paraphrase it for
people to send little bits of Bitcoin satoshis to each other
via Twitter. Word tipping is used which I prefer not to use
but Okay, so just just the background for anyone who has no
idea we're talking about.
Yeah, so I just thought a lot about it today and Chaz over at
lining junkies he has been posting a lot saying this is
crap you know this this sucks and
like his voice very well.
Yeah, that's exactly what I know. And he's he's Bay's
argument is basically that this is all custodial. No, I'm sure
it is. You bring in you're saying it's lightning but it's
all custodial. So you know you're not really doing
lightning or whatever. And in wilo I mean, I'm sort of
understanding of that argument. But so I thought about it a lot
today trying to figure out what Where do I fall on this and
well how about telling us how it fits together first what what
exactly how do you do it? What how does it work and then let's
talk about the religion of it.
Okay, so take first in religion. So the way it works is it's a
euridice iOS only. And from the receiver side, if I'm going to
what you do is you go in there on your iOS app, Twitter app,
and you go to your profile page and there is a thing that says
tips and
cringe I'm sorry, keep going take a drink
of water tips and then you you hit it and it takes you to a
separate page and you enable lightning tipping and it gives
you one it gives you one option
one option one wallet option and that strike
this is gonna be really hard to not say to
say okay, I'll just drink silently every time
so you you enable that and you're One option is to is a
strike wallet and you put in your strike username, which is
your wallet name like a cash app handle, you know, it's your
strike handle. So you put that in and it's like okay, you're
done. I mean that's literally all there is to it you put that
in and that's where all your funds are gonna land whenever
somebody sends you lightning it's gonna land there
so so basically what this does if I could just boil it down
from my understanding
on their own this on the receiver side
well so so you have a strike account and you have your
username and so once you have enabled this then something pops
up next year your avatar your profile that I'm sure says
something like tip me
No no no no it's a little dollar bill icon shows up
broadness. $1 bill Okay, hello tone deaf anybody?
Other bill let me look it looks like $1 sure it's
not a B with a with a line through it. Anyway, so all
right, let's look at this little Pete little pig with a coin in
his back because that's that's that's the spin that I'm going
to religion already. I'm sorry. I'm just stay with the tech.
Okay. Okay. So it surfaces a button and then you click it and
then it's like a booster gram maybe where you can customize
the amount and and the message at that point or not.
Okay, I'm looking at it it is it does look like $1. And it's,
it's right up at the top next to your avatar. So if you see some
Yeah, so if you see somebody that has that icon, you can you
can tap it and it brings up it brings up a screen and the
screen gives you a bunch of options. I'm looking at it right
now. Yet $1 $2 $3 $5 and the sad amount is underneath each one of
these oh that's that's something yes is one dollars, 22,329 SATs
blah, blah, blah all the way up to $10 and then there's a custom
amount and then you can just type in whatever you want. So
then you hit this I'm going to do I'm going to do $1 here and
I'm hitting next unless you put a note on it. Let's attach a
note, booster gram and then you you have two options at the
bottom. Underneath the text box area. You've got open wallet or
Copy wallet address. If you hit open wallet, it just opens up
whatever lightning wallet is registered on your device to be
able to handle invoices. ln ln bc invoices got it in my case on
mic in my case that's that's a breeze it opens up the breeze
wallet every time if you hit copy wallet address it copies
the invoice
wait a minute wait a minute so it opened it doesn't open strike
it opens breeze
for me It opens breeze Yes. But you have to use strike to sign
up you have to use strikes and that's why that was talking
about as a there's a real difference between the receiving
and the sending.
Receiving is always going to be on your strike. Sending can be
from anything so I should be able to just find someone now
you have it on the podcast index.org Twitter account.
Yes, I do.
Okay, so let me just see. Would you want to live people
that members iOS only you're not even going to see the icon
unless you're on iOS.
This is discrimination.
It is the hate you. This is discrimination? Are you bitter?
Somewhat.
I don't blame you actually. It is gonna feel like Cridland.
I guess. He's always he's always bitching about everything being
in the US and iOS only.
Well, okay, so on on the receiving side. Yes. It's always
strike on the sending side. You it will open up whatever you
find. Or you can just copy and paste the invoice got any
wallet.
Well, that will okay. Interesting. So let me see
podcast index. Yeah, you got no dollar bill, man, I see no
dollar bill, no dollar because
you're not on iOS. Like I'm saying you got you. You
don't have to yell at me because I'm not an iOS.
Okay, wait, this is an interesting, I'm curious about
this. If I copied the invoice out, really, anybody should be
able to pay this right?
So you have the invoice for me and send me that send it to me
on the signal on the signals. And then I can I can open it up
right away.
And
see if I can
I'm going to paste this tip you know, this isn't this isn't to
me this is to Lake you and on its adult for $1.
Okay, well, it's just it's just just a wonder it looks like a
standard like sandbox. Let me just see what it what it pops up
on. And it's so if I'm wondering if you paid if Yeah, yeah,
anybody could pay that. And then it would show. That's okay. So
that's the interesting thing about this. There's a bunch of
interesting things about it. Number one, is from my side on
stream 332
sets, that's what you that's what you put in there.
Yes, like about, okay. So, if I send, if somebody sends me, if
I'm looking through my strike history and seeing the payments
that have come in, there's no names or anything attached to
it. They're all anonymous. The only way I know that's from the
strike wallet side. If I flip over to Twitter, I see your
bowels actions and transactions and who sent them? Yeah, in my
notifications, it says, you know, Gary aren't since you sent
you $2 boombox podcast since you won $5 it shows each person in
what they sent but from the strike app it doesn't it's like
it doesn't know. Yeah, and which makes sense. Yeah,
it just comes into me so there's no there's no other data being
sent the note? tlvs airgo less sophisticated as booster grams
But okay, I digress.
No, it can't touch poster grants. pictograms are way more
sophisticated. Yeah. This is these are new noobs
new on the scene why Jack's young? He's a young man. He is
he is.
So that's interesting to me because that means that
everything is going pure lightning and from the Twitter
and from the receiver side. It makes a lot of sense for them to
limit the reception to just strike a lot of sense because
oh no, that it'll be such a headache otherwise now it's just
one person's headache and it's of course it's it's a complete
centralized solution. I understand why people are
disappointed but no,
I see. I think it's I think it was pure utilitarian. That's
what I'm saying. I don't I think you have to, because for one
reason, liquidity. Yep. Strike. Has the liquidity they have the
channels with the liquidity to be able to handle this this
volume of have they otherwise people would be trying to pay
other people and their payments will be failing for reason
because this guy only has a you know 120 5000 sat channel to
some rando is wouldn't work
right so so what we are all expecting to happen of course is
for eventually that setting in your app to open up to you can
add any lightning node to it yes then then that would be then as
far as I'm concerned problem solves anyone who's has an issue
this that would be fantastic.
I don't I mean, I think it makes I don't see how they don't do
that. I mean,
well I I'm sure there's gonna be shit coins in there and all
kinds of different stuff that do all kinds of different
solutions, I would presume I mean, although I don't know I
don't
know. So the other the other part that's interesting to me is
that
by the way that there was no marketing or PR for this it was
really very under the radar launch.
I think so too. Yeah.
And understandably so I mean it matters excuse me got a slot on
you know on msnbc he always really always shows up there and
he's really good he's he explains it really well. He does
a good job.
Isn't that his his dad like a hedge fund guy or something? So
he's probably got some connections to the press. No, I
said, I think his family is connected with some hedge fund
stuff. But yeah, so that that was that was that was
interesting in it because it does look like pure it doesn't
look like pure lightning. If you're looking at it from the
receiver side. Now it sucks that it's not global yet. And I don't
think the global aspect of it has anything to do with strike
because this on the sending side it doesn't matter right? As far
as like well,
but it's just handing off an invoice that's all that's all
the Twitter's do and it's really nothing special. It's just a
widely used invoicing, you know, creation system, kind of a front
end, right. And, yeah, so and I understand that for it to work,
they have to work with partners like that. But definitely open
it up for everybody. And you know, consider us plebs over
here and graphene Oh, s land.
Well, the other interesting thing about it to me is that
they is that they did not try to do anything special for the
cinder. They're essentially like, what they what they've
done is they've created they've created strike API integration
on the receiver side. And on the sending side, they're just like,
here's an invoice.
Doesn't it automatically open up the strike wallet if you if you
have that installed?
It probably would, but I guess what I'm saying is, is they're
not they've done no attempt
or they're not taking you down a path to onboard you to any apps
or anything like that.
No, none of that. No, they've not they're not converting for
Fiat, or any they've done no onboarding of the of the, the
sender to the lightning network in a way that like, you can't
say you can't do dollars. It's all they just assume that if
you're going to send it to this person that you're just gonna
have to figure it out on your own.
Oh, that sounds a lot like our marketing. Exactly. In fact, I
have I have a clip of how our marketing succeeded. This is
from the mere mortals podcast and kyron is that how we
pronounce his name Carmen kyron was talking to James Cridland
James Chrism was on a lot of podcasts
I listened to this week. That was a really good interview.
Yeah, it was and so they're standing by I think a sludge or
sewage river I could hear with like seagulls and smelled really
bad. But then I haven't said this thankfully
you offhandedly mentioned the the podcasting 2.0 which I
thought was the way you set it at the moment was I think that
just introduced the value for value and breeze. Yes. Yeah. So
the way you said it made me just think like, I put my podcast on
there. And Adam Curry pays me Bitcoin or something like that,
like, get in my head how this whole thing would work. So I
thought it was the biggest scammy bullshit, and then I'd
heard
That's awesome.
And I appreciate however, James Cridland converted him with
whatever marketing he gave him. It maybe it was maybe that's the
way to go like it Hey can I get a Bitcoin from Adam Curry I'll
try this stuff out
that's that's the way we should have onboarded everybody just
you just pay him
yeah and I will be one of those guys who shows up in your in
your Twitter timeline you know get free and get free Bitcoin
airdrop
that's the that would have made the technology so much simpler.
Oh yes in an invoice to Adam.
Hey everybody isn't perfect I thought there was right well
yeah so okay, that's very interesting that they that they
chose to do that or not to do that and depending on how you
look at it,
I was selfishly hoping, hoping that they would like create this
fancy onboarding system to go from Fiat to lightning so that
we could then bounce off of that and tell people to go use their
Twitter wallet and all this kind of jazz. So I was a little
disappointed that that didn't happen but then on the dyno, the
more I thought about it, I was like,
No, no, I see that we'll go ahead. I see. This is what
sort of validates our hesitancy like even if Twitter even is
hesitant to onboard people like me that maybe we're not so
schlubs after all.
Well, here's what I like about it. The perfect way to get
people to at least have a wallet. So to get the onboarding
part is to go get your Twitter wallet, which we will just call
Twitter wallet from now on. Sorry, jack, but just for
purposes of marketing, get your Twitter wallet right there, and
we'll explain how you do it. Oh, you're on Android. No podcast
for you. Once you've got that, then you sign up over here. And
then every time there's 100,000 satoshis in your in your
complete custodial podcast, index ln pay 1099 system then
we'll shove it out to your Twitter wallet. Not like it and
and how about so here's the real envoy if you so that's for
podcasters but for podcast listener, oh, just get your
Twitter wallet and income come back here and scan this code. Is
this a scanning work? Yeah, it works on Stryker. You can do
scan you can scan a invoice. Yeah. So just set of stripes and
get your Twitter wallet. That's it. Problem solved. Create a
jack, jack and Jack's Twitter wallet. Same guy one of the one
of the jacks. We're all jacked up. Yeah. I really did screw up
I might have to go back in and do the intro game. Except then,
you know, like, talk over me do an insert all jacked up, you
know, just insert that instead of lightning strikes.
Yeah, just dump it in. Well,
Wow, did you have one of those? Yeah, that was just right. And
that now did yours do synchronize pause?
No, no.
I love I think I Chi that did that synchronize?
No, you had to you had to use both hands. You know,
we used to use those things in the in the in the heyday of the
radio pirate radio. So we didn't we didn't have card machines and
jingle machines. You know, we had it just think anything is
interesting if I'm just gonna tell you it's technology. Okay.
This is technology. Yeah, it's technology. Yeah. Okay.
I love radio talk.
The first time you say with the turntables, the way we had the
turntables is it was no. This was before. This before
techniques were even around. So we had lenco different kinds of
Philips, maybe something was robust. You'd put a 12 inch it
didn't want any more than we had a felt mat but it was oversized,
it would stick out by maybe three quarters of an inch kind
of hanging over the edge of that, then we'd put it we'd
mount a relay on the side. And when the relay was powered, it
would it would grasp the mat like a little claw. And so the
turntable is turning albeit a little bit slower from the
fiction but it's already up to speed because the minute you the
way we have is you open up the fader on the mixer a little
micro switch and triggered the you know broke the circuit the
relay flips open the slip mat catches and within like one and
a half second is up to speed you can still hear in the old days.
You can hear some of these recordings were that have the
record queued up too tight and it would go it would kind of
start like really rude when you get up to speed. Yeah, so we
built that that's how that's how we had the that's how we did we
didn't have fast starting turntables or anything like that
it took some time for this thing to get up to speed.
You get a gin enough it's like the monitor it's like the
monochrome monitor coming on the you know with the green has to
fade in you know exactly.
A little burn in there. And so then for the instead of jingle
machines we didn't have we create our own cassette tapes so
we only took you know let's say we had like it was just a 32nd
really would be only 30 seconds or maybe three minutes and the
way you do it is you'd cut off the leader tape and you have to
open up the accent To do this you cut off the leader tape and
and then you know so that's the little clear the clear section
and clear section Yeah, you can't have that so you can
rewind it all the way and then hit pause and play at the same
time you unpause it boom it starts playing right away. Or,
and this is the way we did it. Sometimes if we didn't have
enough time or you know, cassettes were costly. You'd
record a couple on them and then you'd play the cassette and the
minute it started you hit play they hit pause he rejected put a
pencil in turn it back a quarter and require play and pause yeah
man that's how late at night that's right that's for radio
yeah
damn I can't find a pencil
oh no we had pencils we had pencils pens anything give me
something to turn this thing back
That's awesome. Yeah, that's that the people I was trying to
explain to my kids the other day about marigold my youngest I was
trying to explain to her
Her name is Tamara gold. Mira go marigold. Nice name two
things. So we was trying to explain to her that with an
eight track
is your son's name tulip.
Now the with an eight track you, you had to you had to rewind,
you had to flip to the other side. Listen to a little bit of
that music until I get back to the place where he had to flip
back.
Right? Exactly. Well then later we started using eight tracks in
the same way except we had that two jacket so the the wheel
would come out and you have to cut a hole in the eight track.
It was a whole procedure. That's also thank God for digital. This
is all that stuff. We had to connect in our head to make it
all work. These weird little Rube Goldberg systems.
Yeah, thank God for digital but also something gets lost in that
I mean I'm missing. Like, when you when you made back in back
in the day when you made a mixtape for somebody?
You would spend somebody somebody Dave. Dave,
when you made a mixtape for you for your special, very special,
special girl,
okay, we're going back in time remembering the mixtapes
on your Maxwell
gold max
Maxwell edk baby
okay well you're TDK
when you met TDK metal metal oh
yeah yeah, it's you know it has special special sauce sounded
like iron oxide sounded
crappy I'd never liked too much high end the
you lovingly created that thing over the course of you know a
week because you had to wait for the song to come on the radio
and
Tamar Tamar DJ me and we talked through the intro
every now and then though you could catch one where they would
play that in the rotation and maybe the DJ had to go the
bathroom so he just fired up and cheat Yeah, so you get the you
get the beginning and then you could you know you get that one
that one's clean. So then you then you can make your other he
had cassettes the whole process you spend all this time creating
this this wonderful mixtape and then you physically handed
handed to her Yeah. To your to your girl. And that was like
that was special. She had she had something in her hands.
Yeah, that you created, you know, and then, but now like,
what are you going to text her a playlist on Spotify.
Now here's a boost to grit. Here's a boost to Graham
goodbye. Well, that's
a boost to my playlist.
Here we go. Todd, I understand. I understand. That's different.
Now. It's different. But the kids they don't know. They don't
know what they're missing. Then you know what, we are just too
old, rolled cranky dudes now. How much better my day? My day.
We didn't have Perl. Python. We had. What's the we had
Microsoft? We had the Microsoft Access database. And that's what
we live with.
Remember c Pan? No, I saw your pro module.
C pass. I'm sure it is. Yeah. Someone will comment on it. No
doubt. Yeah. All right. So well, good. So this since we're able
to joke about it, and you know, maybe it'll be something. I do
have an older iOS thing. I just I have a real principled I'm
getting very I'm getting very principled in my old age.
We'll just wait till it comes to Android. They said it would be
so
I'm sure it will I'm sure it will
but um but I'm bullish on it i mean i think oh
no I think it's good and of course you know what a lot of
it's a long road we got to take so I just don't know we too had
to kind of get over the custodial versus non custodial
issue and the more you look at it you know, there's there's
different scenarios and different cases where it just
makes a lot of sense. By the way I'm I'm so convinced Elon bits
is something I should be able to use and figure out case and and
I have multiple wallets on my own node. I just haven't figured
it all out yet. But there's, there's ways there's got to be a
home kit to this one day soon.
Well, you know, I think that I think that ultimately Twitter
you know, Twitter is laying the groundwork for people to have
the understanding of what this stuff even is and you know, when
it puts it puts things into the lexicon and that's a big deal by
itself you know, because people don't even understand it's hard
to go from not even understanding and not ever even
hearing the word blinding or strike or any of these things
and the fact that they're willing to do this when they
actually own cash app and all this kind of stuff. I mean,
that's that's a big deal to me it it overall shows me that that
Dorsey or somebody within within Twitter is a zealot and is more
as is really actually thinking about this stuff from a you
know, from a from an ideological standpoint and not just pure
monetary or you know, not not just pure profit because
otherwise they would just say cash out Forget it. I mean,
there's really no this is this is training. I do this I
think this is just knowing a little bit about Silicon Valley.
This is training wheels for the users for them as well. Let's
figure it out. We don't have a lot to lose you know, it's not a
huge risk. We're not going to make big promises.
Did they buy strike? Do you think they'll buy strike? No,
no, no, now VSA has their claws in them Oh, that's the play how
strike is is destined for things mud This is going to you want to
talk about a custodial strike will be the mother lode of
custodial and it'll be very important it'll be a very
important stepping stone but it's visa I mean they they Oh,
they they put a lot in
I have no problem with the custodial stuff. I mean, I don't
I don't mean that and I got to explain what I mean. And I think
it's the same thing that you think is that the custodial is
not a problem as long as you can get your stuff out quick.
Because if it hits if it hits your strike account and you can
immediately offload that money into your own into your own
wallet or node what doesn't matter i mean i don't see I
don't see that it matters one bit because you the solves
Twitter's problem Twitter's problem is is they need
liquidity because they really need those payments to be
successful. Because if the payments fail it's a disaster
Oh, and they're still gonna fail on the sending side and there's
going to be all kinds of liquidity issues there.
right all right. Okay, well we beat that horse
Yes, we did. I did I read something about stitcher polling
8 million times somewhere
Yeah, this is this is like the weekly head scratcher where I
wonder what the hell everybody's waiting on to start monitoring
pod paying. I just don't get it. They're like hammering they're
hammering buzzsprout like you know 50 times
does buzzsprout reach out to them and say hey, have they done
that? Yeah, I mean Tom you know Tom said he's been talking to
him and telling them you know, hey, use us piping
you maybe maybe Tom and me and you and Eric just got on a plane
and just go talk to those guys. No, I mean when we show up you
know, we got Eric with us because we look pretty,
especially if he has his long leather coat on behind us. A
little bulgy here and there. Yeah, badass badass.
And he just doesn't say anything the whole time is all stare
you need some glasses. Perfect. shade. Not such so simple to
solve. This is crazy.
Alice Gates has really delivered a lot on the high rider stuff.
Yes, a couple of weeks. And he said I've been stuck in database
export land for literally like two weeks. Yeah, I know what
you're working on. Yeah, you Yeah, and it's it's just
something for me, you know, for a company that asked for some
stuff from us. And it's been it's been a real challenge has
been eating up a ton of my time I'm almost finished and I can't
wait to be finished with it.
I hope I hope it can be useful. I hope I hope it can be used for
other for other people as well, because it's it's a you put a
lot of work into that.
I can't I do. I do think it can. Yeah, I think it'll be something
that that will be useful. It's it sounds a little dumb to
export things to export a database as JSON. But I know
what they're trying to do. And it's, it's not dumb, it makes
sense. And it also is kind of cool from a time series import
standpoint. But anyway, I think it's cool. And as soon as I
finished that, though, there's a lot of stuff that's been backing
up and wait
a minute, why did you say you're exporting the thing as JSON? Oh,
my God, someone just got excited.
Daniel, James, J.
Lewis.
A. So as soon as that's done, I'm going to go and
we're going to do one live I'm sorry, this doing something
else?
Yeah, give me something other than live. I'm going to go put
the new hive rider Docker stuff on to all the piping nodes. And
I've been I've been promised that it's seamless. And I
believe it you know, the guys that guys awesome program.
And I look at code regularly just to see me. If I if I
understand what's going on or little pieces I would say I'm
afraid to look at his because I think it's probably like Medusa
where your turn to stone. If you look at it, if you look at Alex
gates, his code like you could never look at code again. It's
like
it's I don't mind looking at his code. I just don't want him
looking at my code. This wouldn't get written you and
there was a there was something that came up and I've been
meaning to mention this because I know that this has been a
podcast index dot social topic for a while it goes away and it
comes back. And and I was listening to pod land. And Sam
Sethi now this is one of his things. But I think James has
also been talking about this issue, certainly on on the
master on what I can recall. And I just want to make a suggestion
here did anyway you were listening to you were listening
to Adam D.
podcasting 2.0, by the way, great show about Bitcoin and
myths about the energy levels. But the other bit that they
talked about the Dave talks about was how phase three of the
podcast index namespace is now closed. And phase four is now
open. I thought what's in phase four. But I also wanted to look
back at what was in phase three, that close one of those was the
podcast license tag had been closed. And I asked you a
question in the middle of the week actually about it, because
we were talking last week about user generated content, where
maybe I could clip up something from Portland or someone else's
podcast. And would I have the rights to do it? Or do we as
Portland issue a Creative Commons license anyway to allow
anyone to clip us
our sort of favorite topic?
No, I hate this topic. But I do know a lot. I do know a lot. I
know a lot about Creative Commons I took the force, the
first Creative Commons case to court and and was successful.
And so and I like it, I like Creative Commons, but I can
understand where it doesn't necessarily fulfill the types of
things because they go on for a little bit, and they talk about
the types of licenses as well. As you mentioned on the previous
episode, I have podcast licensed calm. So why don't we and I've,
I've done these before I created at one point, the podsafe music
license should it may even still be around actually
is a full text license. I mean, it's the real deal. Yeah,
yeah, it was uh, let me see if I can find it. podsafe Music
license now this was back in the day. We had podcast alley
podcast, music, policy,
safe music website that you couldn't get.
Yeah, well, that was a podcast alley. And oh, gosh, I can't
remember.
I'm looking at Wikipedia right now. podsafe is a term created
in the podcasting community to refer to work any work which
through its licensing specifically allows us the use
of the working podcast.
So the way the license worked, was I play your song I would
have to report to you that I played your song but I wouldn't
have to pay anything. And that was it. And I could report by
just put I could also put a link on my page you know, it was
obviously a value for value honor type system, but there
were a lot of interesting people who showed up they showed up
with their the Masters they had purchased back I mean, there was
some like Davy Jones like monkeys guy, you know, he put
some stuff on It was the different people, people who own
stuff from before 72 and then Carmen Tyler who still was
around 72 matters. Oh yeah, long story but the the before 1972
the rules were different. So artists who had songs before 72
really got screwed they got no royalties and they've been
fighting for back royalties for years. And and the main, the
main for the one of the final big agreements took place a few
years ago where Sirius XM had to pay this huge lump sum, but you
had stole a lot of the stones early stuff they really didn't
get many royalties over it.
I wonder if that's the same stuff that happened to like
Boston and some of those guys sure anything
before 7272 or maybe even 74? I can't remember now. Anyway, what
was my point, but say podsafe music and so we wrote it up and
we also allowed people to we had a repository so you could upload
there and you know, we had templates and it was, it was a
pretty cool thing. The guy we bought, we bought a company
which was podcast alley, chris chris from Nashville, and and
then he, we know exactly how podcasts alley folded in but
then he really started running podcast podsafe music, my point
is, we can do a license that has all of these permutations. It's
really not that hard, it's kind of fun actually to come up with
all the different angles and then we can just publish it we
have a domain name I'm happy to put that into the pot let's use
that. We could do sub domains if you wanted if you want to get
fancy with with the licensing or some kind of authentication, and
maybe authentication of stuff goes through a node ID could be
authenticator you know this would fold into value block
splits I mean there's a lot of stuff you can do here and I
think it's a would be a very interesting exercise for me to
watch someone else do
the whole thing
but I would I would gladly contribute my my historical
experience and whatever I've learned along the way so if Sam
or James or both if they want to if someone wants to kick started
I'll support that work definitely it's a good idea of
where if people will will need something like this down the
road somehow and whether it says hey, you can play my song as
long as you put my value block in your podcast or you can use a
clip of my podcast and your podcast but slip me into an
episode an item level value block this is the show we got to
be thinking of man you know take my staff pay me put me in your
value block block me the value block me baby
that value the I don't want you to use my stuff thing that that
has never made any sense to me when people use your stuff
that's there.
By the way that was marketing that was me doing Lars from
Metallica.
Just like lawyers. That's voice that was Napster lowers all the
way so this is no I think this is cool. And I think Sam
specifically is into this because he runs a radio station
any games
and he drinks wine. Apparently he doesn't drink beer. He drinks
wine. So
that was the most disappointing thing about the entire time.
I gotta say I'm a wine guy. I'm wondering. Yeah, I drink a glass
of wine every night,
Rosa? No, no,
no, we live in Texas Hill Country now. So now Tina has
done what she has instituted winery Wednesday. So to write
this whole scam off, I do report on the no agenda show where I
talk about the wine and john Of course, that tells me it's yet
and I paid too much for it. So that's that's the gag.
Yeah, Wonder one Wednesday right before tacos. Right after Taco
Tuesday.
That's right.
No, we're in Alabama. We have must get on one and scuppernong
one. Those are in they taste like garbage.
I like I like the ones out here. It's good. Anyway. So yeah, so
that's, that's just a thought. And I think that would be a
very, very good project to have, because we're going to need
something like that. But we have to. I guess my point is we got
to be thinking more about how does it work? How does it all
work? So we all can share in it. And you know, I can see. I can
see future stuff where that's even automated, like oh, I took
a clip from it to boom. You know, one, one point In the
value block, whatever.
But it I mean, this is kind of relevant because I spent way,
way too much time trying to find a back a little backing thing
for one of the ISOs that for today that john cigi sent. And I
just wanted to juice it up a little bit and I had to I mean,
God, it took forever to find something that was royalty, you
know, that gave me the license I needed. And it was just one
little like, boom, you know, it's uh, let's see, it's ISO
booster, gram jazzy.
Nice. Right.
But like it took forever just to find that one little piano thing
that I could use. without a license. Let me
give you an example. So our our opener. This whole talk was not
playing. That's odd. That's really weird. Yeah. But now the
opener open to massive tech failure. Oh, sec. Let me see
what's going on. Why? Why is that play? Oh, man. There we go.
There we go. That one. So I purchased that. I bought that,
you know, one time purchase use forever. What it would have made
so much more sense for me to say to the person who made it here,
you're in the value block? Yep. in perpetuity, in perpetuity for
as long as we use use your stuff.
And that's why I brought this up. Because when we go searching
for things like
I'm sorry, just before I forget to say we need some kind of mp3
ID tag identifier that says this is the value block or this is
the this is the the node ID for payments for payments to this
asset. I'm sorry, keep going.
That's a good idea. That No, I mean, why if you go looking for
things like you know, pod podsafe music music, jazz hit,
or something like that.
The loss of it sucks balls?
Well, but the way they do it? Well a lot of them do is they
put them into YouTube videos. You know, I'm talking about
Yeah, sure. So they'll have your YouTube video full of all these,
you know things. Right? Yeah, you've got to repeat all these
loops. Yeah, and then it'll say so what I'm thinking is, why not
a podcast that just has these hits these these loops as
episodes, and then a value block and
great mechanism. tie that into the licensing system that
Jameson's Esam just created. Yeah. Bob's your uncle.
Yeah, I like it. Yeah, let me I think Sam could run with this
because I mean he needs it anyway for his radio station.
He's gonna be happy he's
gonna need to do something after the after he goes broke from
running the radio station.
That's top notch radio top notch right?
Eye sports Sports Radio to
this what's disappointing about him drinking one I feel like he
should be drinking this big manly beer with this, you know,
like a like a stout? Or an oatmeal stout. You know, there's
something you can like use the fork with like, stand up in
now, man, he probably hangs out with the Wags
with a wag, Oh, boy.
I'll get busted for this. This is just only because I live
there. Do I know this? That's an acronym for wives and
girlfriends. footballers, wives and girlfriends at a low was
very low. It just slipped out. I didn't mean any of it, Sam.
And I thought this speaking of speaking of booster grams, do we
want to go ahead and thank some people and then do a little bit
more, I got a little bit more on namespace stuff. Here's your cue
to boost. You know you want to.
I'm all about thanking everybody for the value for value. whole
project. If you don't know it by now, you should look it up.
actually go to value for value.io. There's some of it,
there are some links as well. The only thing that we need is
to keep this whole project going. Is everyone to
participate. Everyone has to do something time, talent treasure,
take your pick two or three, three out of three is also a
good so we can keep this free open and open in the sense of
not just open source but open for everybody to participate in
with no hidden agendas. And then the only way we can do it is
what's been working for us now but we do need your support. And
people are kind enough to do that through our cookbook
cookbook system over at podcast index.org. At the bottom is a
red Donate button. PayPal is most favorable there. But of
course we appreciate people who are slowly converting to the
booster grams and starting to send their appreciation and
their value back to us in real time. And do we still want to
start reading them? Or do we want to do the paper towels or
whatever? What have we decided on this?
Let's do the Pay Pal first good. Cuz it's a big one Marco arment.
coming in with $500. Again.
That is, and that's that's sustaining? Can we do anything
for him? I feel like you know, he just he just doesn't he
doesn't want a T shirt. Can we ask him? We send them some HMB?
HNB?
Oh, I just want to do right. I mean, it's so appreciated. And I
know that the index is valuable to him. But he always just kind
of he's out there. He's always been a little bit apart from the
group, I guess.
Yeah, I think I think he's what he does like to do his own
thing. But he's,
he's signaling his value and is highly, highly appreciated.
Yeah,
very much appreciated. And one of the things he's doing is
sinking. He constantly syncs with us. And so we, we get, I'll
just do a little aside here, because we haven't had 25 of
those already this year. But we, we sink, we get feeds, I get
that I get asked this a lot. I had actually had a call with the
gas from Samsung podcast last week for last. And just help me
I'm talking about namespace stuff and that kind of thing. In
pod Ping. And they asked in, everybody always asked us, where
do you get the feeds from? Let me get the zillion feeds, where
do you get them from. And don't always go through the list
Swedish, Swedish trickler. Swedish
trailer for the Swedish trickler. Christopher icynene.
Next, we get him from pod news. Anybody searches for fate on pod
news, James auto submits to us cool. We get them from directly
from hosts submissions, some hosts auto submit, and some
hosts just have us on their dashboard. So the podcaster can
submit directly from there. One click, we get them from pod pain
newfie discoveries on pod pain. And then we get them from direct
submissions through the API. Now, and another way that we get
them is Marco syncs his database with hours.
So he gets all anything new on iTunes, that kind of stuff he
must have, right,
it's sort of a mutual thing. And so he looks, he looks up to see
if we have an iTunes ID or a Feed URL to do a reverse lookup.
And so he sees if he found something, if he found a, an A,
A Feed URL that he doesn't know the iTunes ID for, he'll do a
reverse lookup on us. See if we have and see if we have it. And
if we do have it, he'll put it in his if we don't have it,
he'll give it to us cool if he has it. So it's Oh, it's just a
cart. It's like I mean, you know, a couple 1000 times a day
these these things are doing so that's, that's what he's, that's
how he's supporting us. And getting value back from us is
getting is is using us as a resolver and then submitting. So
anyway, that's
outstanding. Outstanding.
Thank you, Marcus.
That was pretty good overview of how we get feeds. I don't think
you've ever explained that. Or we've never put it all in one
sentence. It's cool.
Yeah, it's important to have lots of different feed sources.
Yeah. Because we don't, most directories will just go out
there and pull and scrape apple and we scrape it all. No, that's
not what we do. Let's see, I think, yep. I'll save that. I'll
save that because that's a note that goes along with no, that
was the only PayPal single donor Whoa,
whoa, sad puppy. No, no, no, no, we are not happy. Okay. Mostly
donor. Oh, good. Yeah. What the monthly donors? Yes.
Yeah. But we we also had a really big booster, gram. I
gotta dig I got a baller boost. Oh, it's like mega baller boost.
Really? I think I've got it. I can. I don't think Let me see. I
wonder if my won't mind if I steal this from him.
Oh, my goodness.
This is just so good. sakala 20 is blades on Impala. I only use
it once. Okay, that's our big baller thing and mo facts. Since
you you played it up who's who's our big baller booster Graham
from Dred Scott
and trying to fight it. For some reason it did not come through
the email and I still have not found out why. But it did come
through. But it did go into the database.
I don't think I saw this one because I didn't see something
from drip on the email.
Yeah That's what I'm saying. Come through the email and he
sent me a message saying hey, you know I sent you a big boost
oh my gosh I can't find it now I'm gonna feel like a turd a fan
so yeah Dred Scott sent us a booster gram of 216,482 sets
wow and he says wait wait Give me that give me the stats what
what app did it come from?
Okay this game through Curio caster How did it What was the
timestamp timestamp? Got a boost link in there? Where's the shoot
that link to me? No, no, just shoot the timestamp is just one
so it's sitting on the episode. Okay Okay. And he says the
message is three jingles sat streamer from Fun Fact Friday.
Okay, now we shouldn't be in your yes I've
noticed that yes.
Boost. Well which which boost? gave us gag gifts is dealer's
choice. No, no, no. He likes to call a bear moose. He likes to
bake Well,
he likes he likes a big boost and big boost and then
and then go podcasting. Oh, and he says at the time of this
boost, this boost of 220,900 SATs should equal $100.03 133
cents.
wow man.
Thanks for all you guys are doing go podcasting.
Thank you so much. streamer streamer ama sad streamer
streamer. dream weaver gonna splash my SATs all over you
let's see so we got out I was worried when he sent me that
email I was like oh my God didn't get lost we didn't have a
channel big enough and something happened but then I went through
the DB and found it but it didn't come through email and I
still can't figure out why
well drip thank you so much and enjoy the enjoy the the fiber
that splashed back on you to the value blog.
Yeah,
that's cool. It gets right back.
I love that he did this. I mean obviously he's extremely
generous but I love that he did this because he's like I'm just
gonna push the limits and see how many that's
exactly what he's doing. It's exactly what he's doing and and
i will say to Steven b i think drab is also ready to push the
limit on the chapters editor in the in the in the Curio Jenny
tightenings that up. Tight knees it
I mean 220 days I want everybody to realize what just happened
100 bucks was boosted was boosted $100 that's significant
I know I know I know I know I'm just sitting I'm smiling from
ear to ear and it didn't crash that's I'd love to know the
routing on that guy I've got it all oh actually I think I saw I
think I saw is because they went from Ellen pay right probably
Yeah.
From Curio caster. Yeah, yeah, see it affect the channel? Oh,
yeah. It Abacus that thing all the way from left to right. And
quite a bit. Yeah. I actually have a little backup channel
just in case we need to send a message of help. But yeah, yeah,
we got 5 million SATs I think with with lm pay right now with
Tim. Yeah, yeah. Okay, thank you. Thanks, man. That's
fantastic. And everyone else down the line I guess. Now he
didn't send that amount to everybody on that that's not
being split up in Curio caster, or does everyone get the get the
amount?
Now? I think he just sent it to us. Okay. All right. Good. All
right. Let's see Franco Franco celerio says he sent us 1881 SAS
and he said don't strip my license yet confetti will come
to cast Matic or some other sort of geeky crypto Jesus
crypto All right.
Thank you Franco and yes, he followed up on that and he did
put confetti into
your dead Thank you. Good to have you here man. It's good to
have you as a part of the of the game.
Yeah, six or seven. I think I'm done with that sheet as a mere
mortals and that must be kyron s came in a came through fountain
app. He says I love the booster gram corner intro for pod land.
I'm wondering if you could create one for the value for
value podcast. Okay, this is new podcast. The V for V booster
gram lounge perhaps something more sensual. I'll reward
handsomely. So he sent us 2001 34 sets will booster Graham
lounge in there somewhere yeah I'm
thinking Let me see what I can do here
the booster grand lounge that
I must feel
is very velvety
Let me see what I have What is this? No that's not gonna work
that's very Indiana Jones ish Apple
that's not even something How about this the value for value
booster gram corner
now it's the booster gram
booster gram right well that's that's like yeah work booster
gram lounge hold on
I didn't know where you're going with that
I'm just adapting you know what is this? Welcome to the value
for value booster gram lounge
for totally insane Instagram lounge
that was Friday the firewall
is right that's pretty close to it that was that was pretty much
close to Friday yeah I'll just I'll just do the voiceover they
can add their own music okay Welcome to the value for value
booster Graham lounge beautiful Come on in I'm going to try one
more yeah come on in you're all welcome in the value for value
booster Graham lounge
oh that's that's good
right a little different little top hat types action there okay.
Yeah, I like it. Alright thank you Carrie. Yes Thank you man
pretty the firewall doing booster. See bill Bill, Bill
Prague, send us 500 says and he said well have donations with
comments memos would go through in three to five seconds. So
did he get that did he receive one i
don't know i'm guessing he said this this is a timestamp thing
so we must have said something at this timestamp that he Oh
okay. Okay. He's responding to us and saying that I've
donations would go through in three to five seconds rather
than 15 minutes like are delayed boost do so this is this is a
guy this is Bill. See, shaming us for being online is the half
guy okay, he's saying he's saying your lightning sucks and
hive is great.
Hey, I have high power man I'm reliably informed hey it works
though. It works correct you can have a hive
yeah
feed and a podcast or video and then you you get booster grams
and they and the message goes through as well to them if they
if it doesn't get translated through to the hive receiver
all that it ends we've got we've got Brian coming on the show and
well then
why see so much Why is he so mad bro?
Thank you, Bill now he's no he can't help it. He's He's a hard
guy. He's got
a chip on his shoulder.
The iron perpetual 100 off syndrome.
Thank you Bill.
He says see anonymous from breeze send us 1000 SAS and says
starting out with a boost
no thank you we like it a boost.
nano boost. Another anonymous send us 1000 stats and says 1000
says to help with the nurse salary find
the nurse?
I don't need a F and nurse. Okay. Hey,
they're gonna put an alias in soon aren't they in breezer that
is everyone always gonna be anonymous. I'm breeze.
I don't know. And I know it. I
know it's you know, it's max Hillenbrand man he's a he's a
GitHub Maven. I see him floating around saying like Hey, he's
always posted he's always posting issues has always come
up with solutions little little things that are irritating he
Max is always there. posting about him getting trying to get
stuff fixed.
He gets stuff done.
Yes, he does. Yes he does. This
1000s says to help with the nurse Sal refund laugh out loud,
Rusty trainer and I'm not sure who rusty is bass his callsign
is WP wb for BSD.
Oh 73 kilo five alpha Charlie, Charlie.
Thank you, Rusty. Sir pate. Is it peace repeating page repeat,
repeat. Repeat 1000 sets and he says al satoshy
All right, sir. paid
the mozzie Okay, I
was trying to drive masie right? Yeah. I was
expecting this. 3333 says he says, homeopathy. That was the
thing I could not remember the name of Ah, yeah, you dilute the
little bits of medicine and water. You know? Yes.
homeopathy?
Yes. Yes. Which is brewed,
which is great. Yes. The placebo. Thank you, Brian. Oh,
thank you for us. I remembered the name of it literally like 10
minutes after we stopped recording. Alex 1000 sets and he
just says Thanks Adam and David. Now this is not Alex gates. This
is an Alex because he spells his name AL ec k s but this Alex
spells his name or her name? Al x. I don't know who this is.
Okay, but it's Alex.
That's all we need to know. Salud. Alex's SATs are as good
as anyone elses.
They spend just the same. And I love stacking SATs.
If anything that we're gonna wake up one day, Dave. In the
future. You'll have your Tiny Tim crutch. I'll have I'll have
a
be on a journey of a hump
back but we'll have like 500 million SATs and it'll be worth
something.
Yeah, and that'll be right before we die. We die. Because
it'll take 40 years. Okay. 1000 SATs another 1000 SATs from
Alex. And he she says boost from found.fm.
All right, thank you.
Let's see who we got next. Oh, this a big message. Wilco sends
us 1241 SATs from cast ematic I like to cast Matic app and dig
in it. Yeah. I'm using it at least once a day
if you're gonna do a Android or is that Really?
I don't know. I think he's an iOS guy.
Is he not flutter based?
No. Native baby.
Oh, he's native. Native. He's
an iOS native.
Maybe I can get the keeper to try it out. She's She's still
pretty, pretty loving, pretty much loving pod friend.
Okay, yeah, like I like cosmetic. I'm digging. I'm
starting to use it more and flipping back and forth between
them all. See. Wilco says, boost. You're not only
reinventing podcasting, you were also a great example of how
modern distributed software engineering could work. How to
build community and trade value for value in semi open source 10
boost 10 years early, perhaps but somebody's got to start it.
Thanks a lot, bro. Keep it up. Go podcast,
indeed a podcast.
Okay, already know the answer to this? And the answer is no. But
he says PS, madam. Is there a booster gram amount that would
make you do another daily source code? Now?
No, there's not. There's not. I know, there's the whole problem
with the daily source code is I like playing music in there as
well. And that's the problem. And I don't want to be made an
example of but maybe, you know, maybe this I don't know. We'll
see. Let's get let's get the music stuff running. Let's get
our pod pod. Let's get our podcast license or podsafe.
Music license back, you know, there's or something like it,
the podcast license should encompass all. Here's how.
Here's how music is licensed under the podcast license.
You the way you get daily source code back is by changing the
world. And once the world has changed where it's safe to do
it. I'll be there.
I'll be there. I'll be there.
Wilco, again, from cast ematic says, Dave, you're a magician.
We heard it from the Namibian. Adam episode. 54 Come on, Dave.
You can do it.
That's right. Is it done yet?
Okay. See, Mike. Oh, we all know see my sure do 5000 SATs he says
he's talking about he says he's not a vet. He's a doctor. And
I've got my crackers I need my paste had me wrote empathy stuff
we said on the show where you says he's not a vet. He's a
doctor and I've got my crackers. I need my paste had me rolling.
Even labouisse.
Yes, Viva La boost baby. And now as the French say, it is time
for love boost. A shout out to Benjamin news. We just did the
Amsterdam podcast fast.
Can we do we need titles? titles but yeah, for people because I
mean like
oh you mean like, like night to night and Dame titles. Okay, we
need to scale we just scale
when is low or or or staff assignments like that like the
bins out there Ramiz like PR in the hell out of us and he's he
should be like marketing marketing expert or something
like Alex Alex gates should be the official podcasting 2.0
consultant
well what you're saying is we need nicknames for everybody
nicknames are we already we already have those privately
Dave Do you want to discuss them all? No everyone's got nicknames
now I think is a good idea to have you mean levels for
donations or or
or just yeah but that sounds like a lot of work.
I just like what everyone's someone's handle as the Dred
Scott you know it's like I don't know if this is real name
because a kid dread it's like one letter away from drag it's
like no but maybe it is I don't know that's fine I didn't you
know I had like, you know, so I see Christopher I seen his books
I seen his handle but I like Swedish tricolor better now all
of this stuff Yeah, yeah, yeah, we know everybody's name if not,
you know put it in your bookstagram dress you properly
see Mike says PS editing a booster gram on fountain is a
pain flutter not equal iOS laughs Well we just don't Okay,
I do I do think that the text box in the font on fountain
needs to be a little bit bigger. The touch points are a little
hard to hit. So I would agree with that a little bit Oh, here
we go. Auburn Citadel ages says from the Auburn Citadel thanks
guys. 10,000 SATs thank you thank you let's see one then
that we just that's all a booster grants I guess monthly
donors here you know what we could do there or not we because
I got too much already. Somebody should do a show where that's
just nothing but rating booster grants the whole show is reading
booster programs.
No no no. I can tell you exactly what we need to do because this
is an old radio trick. We just we just need a full time stream
with a computer voice that just reads booster grams all day.
How's that a radio trick?
Oh my god. Oh my god how many times we've done this with text
messages and I've done this a million times. So it's so your
page your boosted Graham live page. You just hook that up to a
speech generator and then livestream it and just put music
under it and it's really weird. You can change voices and like
Alex says postby baby yeah, all that kind of. Okay, I like it.
No, like it's not that great of an idea.
No, it's uh, okay, well we could do you know, I mean, we could
call it friend of the show calm. Oh, God.
No. I'm just decided I've decided that you're not a friend
of the show. You're a
pod pal. pod pal. That's it's just going from bad to
worse and I'll tip you.
Monthly donors Jeremy. gerdts $5 Thomas Sullivan Jr. $5 I just
love that name. Thomas Sullivan Jr.
It's just a great name. Like the guy who does a lot is Eric Shane
Washington.
Oh, that's a good name too. But you but if you ever say three
full names though. You're a domestic terrorist.
No, no, he's he's prone for a shooting somewhere. Definitely.
Never Manifesto.
He was a quiet man.
He's gonna be living in the hills in North Carolina for 12
years. Tim Hudgens. My buddy $25 I just saw him tonight. David
would find $3 and nygma Labs $20. Right. Sir Varga Weisz
think that survive on the podcast index dot socials $5
Keith gifts and $50 Thank you Keith. Keith Surely it's t shirt
territory right by now right?
Yeah, we got another shipment going out right?
Yeah. If anybody's waiting on a T shirt Eric's and it'll be
shipping them out soon but he's got to order some more t shirts
we ran out so that's that's the holdup polar.
And I want to just thank Eric personally for doing the tax
sheet again. Yeah. And for and for preparing us for whatever
shit is coming our way.
Yeah, people really understand that. There's a lot of, you
know, a whole lot of threatening crypto stuff that would make us
do even if they would make it would make life suck. So what
Eric has been evaluating is how much suck can we take off of
Everybody's played. Yep, that's pretty much it. So if the suck
means there's all kinds of paperwork that has to be
generated or reports, I should say, for anyone's income tax or
anything, we want to be able to help with that. Because we don't
want we don't want, we want to be here for the long haul. And,
and they're gonna make a tough
and that's that's one of the reasons why it's going slow with
us running our own LMP node is because we want one of the
aspects of this, not just the building of the tag, but one of
the aspects of this is Eric is doing all the research to make
sure that when we when we do it, that everybody's you know, up on
the up and up and we get reporting that we need and all
that kind
of jazz. Yeah, that's the main thing is the reporting so that
Eric does a lot of people stuff that people just don't see or
understand.
Now no, understand for sure. Holy shit, it
stands for sure. Yeah, I don't even understand. Okay, powerskin
$11.14. And I was wondering about what that donation amount
was what the numerology was. And I sent in a note, he said, Hey,
Dave, just got to Episode 51, where my monthly donation popped
up. Still a few episodes behind, and you too wondered about my
donation number. Did you like to boost lead, thought or thought
or pay homage to that for a year? So 133 70 divided by 12
gets to $11.14 a month.
Oh, okay. Wow. Okay. Thank you. Yeah, this is a cool way to do
it.
Keep up the good work. One of these days. I'm going to get
some free time and figure out crypto. And then maybe I'll
switch from cookbooks to SATs. Also a search for cookbooks to
see if I was spelling it right. I don't know why I did either.
Found cookbooks calm. Oh, and I'm a little afraid. I'm gonna
let you do that from your own.
I'll do it or have your shit. I've got a pie hole. No, no,
it's cryptocurrency for leftists. For leftist Yes, here.
Fine here one COC is a safe one. cognize $797,909,000 Finally, a
secure digital currency for globalist Cox
Oh, that's funny. Well, I like it.
That's like the modern modern day goetze.
It's just complete troll. Yeah. Let's see. Unlike Bitcoin, which
has changed price by 3000. Since you started reading this book,
sir, decided to be perfectly stable, pal. The value of one
cookbook is tethered to exactly 1 billion Canadians. That's
awesome.
And it's down.
Nice. Okay. Dwayne Goldy gave us $8 Great name. Michael Goggin
gave us $5 Charles current current $5 Christopher raymer
$10 James Sullivan. No relation to Thomas Sullivan Jr. $10. Sean
McCune gave us $20 and Jordan dunville. Another good name $10.
That's it. That's our group.
Great group. Thank you all so much for completing the loop on
the value for value and see how much fun it is with the booster
grams with the notes and the numerology. And it turns into
content. This is the this is the dirty little secret that no one
really wants to talk about. People want to skip through the
ads. They like listening to the booster gram corner, or the
booster gram lounge or the donation segment. Because it's
interesting. People have interesting things to say. And
they're also experts in their area. And it's a great feedback
into the show. Because we don't know what we're talking about.
This is a really hilarious website by the way. cookbooks.
That's
very funny, isn't it?
This bullet proof system makes cookbooks the most stable way to
destroy your life trying to acquire fake internet money
okay,
I have to look at the mining though. Well What a funny
website what else I have well you're now I guess officially
the pod sage. You're boosting as such.
Yes. Do I have your blessing?
Well, apparently it's because you're so calm and collected and
like ladies, you know, you don't live with him. Okay, but okay.
You don't see my tantrums.
I think I think you'd be well deserving of the monitor if
someone else has given it to you. Take it well I did want to
mention I guess the am bees are coming up
Oh your favorite time of year?
Yes it is it is it is ambi season again and waiting for the
and bees rent and who yeah here it is would be short I just have
to see the am bees awards for excellence in audio. This is put
on by Is this the podcast Academy? Who does this?
It's gotta be it's gotta be biologist.
Let's see. I think it's the podcast Academy.
No, it's not Yeah.
The podcast Academy board members.
That's already I thought that just happened.
I think it's I think it's the new submissions. Probably time
time to submit. And it's like this is a new category this
year. We're all very excited about the new category. The
category is best indie podcast. Which is one of the most
insulting things I've ever heard.
Well, aren't they all supposed to be indie podcast? Thank you
in the you just insulted the whole podcast vibe that's the
point Institute should be the opposite it should be best m
five m cookbooks podcast Yes. Then the little category the
little off to the side encouragement and five m you'll
get there
one day well this is this is what the show Did you see look
at the show sponsors
let me get Spotify Amazon
well Amazon's in there Yeah. I mean this this is some of the
typical ones here I get a lot of this beginner this Adobe well
Dolby well they're
only sponsoring the pre show
this sponsor in the green room
hopefully has a one static camera shot again this year.
Yep. Because ya
know, I guess I guess maybe Adobe is trying to say
here. Here's how you do it. Here's how you do it. You're the
gold sponsor Amazon. Amazon owns wondery wondery is don't they?
Yeah, yeah. So as silver sponsors are one DRI tenderfoot
and PR x so these are all the people who win Yeah, that's how
it was how it works. I'm not I'm not saying anyone's corrupt or
anything it's just the indie thing just bugs me it's like
tipping. Like don't devalue shit empty value it
well I'm not I mean it's okay
the am B's are an indie award so who cares?
I've got I don't think I want to get into this yet because I've
got this idea that I've written out here for how to do pay wall
stuff. But I think it needs a while I think it needs no mean
not I mean it's because you're
looking for more you're looking for more things to do
No, no, no, I just it keeps coming up. It keeps coming up
and and I want to flesh out this idea because I think it's a good
idea. And it's all it's a complete idea. But I don't I
mean it needs about 30 minutes to explain and i don't i think i
don't think we have enough time for that we I think what I would
rather do if you if you've got time is just go through a few of
these tags. Yeah, for
sure. Because Do I have time you kidding me? To the board
meeting? Well, we're running at 149 so you know we're gonna be
long But hey, I mean we didn't have a full show last week you
know we need to update we had important things to discuss like
your marriage
Yeah, yeah.
We took a break for some jingles.
debilitating diseases. Yeah, that kind of stuff and all those
things. Okay. So medium is is we already know about medium we
already know about live item. The two we haven't really talked
about is well we've talked a little bit about recommendations
right this is the one I wanted to look at Gateway
gateway know about No, I don't know. Recommendations I'm
familiar with have opinions gateway. I don't think so.
Okay, so this is the the idea of gateway episodes. Oh, right.
Okay, and here. I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna read. It's been
so long who wrote this up who wrote this up? Mark? met? Mark.
I don't remember his last names. Oh, Stedman Mark Stedman. And
he's, so it's been, it's been almost a year since I've read
verbatim. podcast namespace tag. So it seems appropriate this tag
when present and an item indicates that this episode is a
soak. gateway episode. gateway episodes are episodes that the
podcaster or maybe crowdsource think represent the best entry
point into a long running show. If a podcast has 300 episodes it
might be a good idea to designate one or more older
episodes as the best place to start right I remember now yeah
so it's the new tag is like a gateway in it in it's got one
attribute which is order so if you had multiple gateway
episodes you could say the best way to get into this show is to
listen to this episode first than this one than this one then
pick up with current
or or it could be the one episode it has to be a full
episode it only points to an episode can What can it point to
what is the value for this tag?
Well that that is the value is that it points to the whole
episode versus something like a soundbite Got it? Or you know
but it
can be an episode for a different can be an episode from
a different podcast
well Okay, so here's that's I don't know and then that could
be because here's the here's the way that it lays out. You just
have an item a standard podcast item and then the podcast
gateway tag is in the item
Ah, I see Okay, got it. Yeah, I got it that's a perfect way to
do it. Okay, so it's gonna be from your from your own Yeah, I
mean I would do we were for the no agenda show would be Episode
201 or no 200.1 or 2.5 I think or 100.5 200.5 300.5 we did it
three times.
Right. So you would have to in order to do this this way, of
course
I don't have those in my feed anymore. But that's from problem
to hazmat say you'd have to put them in your feet you got to put
those back in your feed with the gateway tag in it and now just
have to be sorted be sticky there and never go away. Which
is a I mean that's not bad that wasn't
that's that's actually an interesting point with the Curia
with the Curio, Jenny. I can't limit the I can't live in my
feed. I usually have it limited to 10 items, and now it's just
going to go on forever. I have no way to pet paginate to do
anything. I'm sure Stephen B will figure something out but
I'm just mentioning it.
Oh, pagination so yeah drip drip Scott sent me an email just a
few minutes ago and said remind Adam to talk about RSS page a
nation tonight.
It just popped up there you go. This just came right out of my
god gave it to me.
In God gave it to drip and drip drip. Pass
it off. Yes. Okay.
Well, so what is he talking about this? This thing with
Curio caster.
He wants to he wants to. He's dressed as a fent fantastic man.
He wants to go back and do chapters and would also love to
see transcripts, which is doable. For all of actually he
wants to do all as much no agenda as he can. He wants to
do. Potter Todd 100 casting 2.0 he while he wants to do mo facts
he wants to move facts really bad is a lot of value to that.
That one's Dude, that one's doable. I mean, no agenda seems
like a Mount Everest to climb.
Well, it really came up in the context of mo fax, I think. But
he said, You know if we do back back episodes, yeah, he was just
thinking ahead. It's like, Well, I know that you only do 10 you
keep 10 in the feed for no agenda. And what do you mean
right now I've all of mo faxes in there. But it's just growing
and growing. These feeds are getting pretty big to something
has to happen somewhere the long line and with no agenda. It was
just costing too much actual money back in the day to be
pushing out 1000 episode feed with some show notes stuff in
there just got wieldy and we're going broke on the wire feed
broke.
But what's gonna happen now? I mean, is it doable now? Or is it
still
it's much different now the way you set set us up with the with
the CloudFlare and all that crap. But in general, we need I
mean, it's just handy if there's a way to, you know, fold 1000
episodes, you know,
but you know, it's doable, yes. But you still have this
potential apocalyptic thing that would happen. If you had 1000
episodes, and somehow you they all got new gooeys I mean, that
would be a
lot on the moon, baby. That would be bad. Yeah. Okay.
So, I mean, yeah.
Okay, so, how about this, how about this? So, the feed, the no
agenda feed, and let's get to 1370 or something. I'm just
making it up. I guess what he's saying is, is there a way to,
you know, like, it would almost be like a tag that says Oh for
the next 1000 episodes use this you were use this URL
What? Explain that again?
Yeah, you know what? I think it's
Oh no, I see what you mean. I see what you mean you're talking
about like it Oh, we don't need to do this because ours there's
already a spec for RSS pagination. Okay. It's just that
so few people use it. Like I mean it did it has been around
and and pod love uses it and there are hosts out there that
use the RSS pagination spec. It's just it's just not enough.
Not enough people do use it. I mean, we could
What if I came along with my 1400 episodes and said look at
me, you could do it for another time. Okay. bookmark that and
stick a pin in it. Take it down for the meeting notes. And we'll
circle back
circle Pac god you're trying to hit every one of them let's
let's see what synergy we can develop from this.
Well, we have the way down we have the circle back girl.
circle back girl. I don't know. I think I'll
circle back if there's more I can share with you. To just
circle back with you. We can talk about
Oh, I've got I've got a good one. New ISO shock. shock.
shock. Was that from this? I keep going to the well. shock.
That's my Australian broadcast TV. Oh, and defense. The defense
state is a good one to defend state.
Oh my goodness punch. Punch to defend state. Do you just play
this at home?
Yeah, that's what I do. That's what I was doing before we
started the show.
is playing Australian TV. I was
listening to Shaka damos and pliers and a little bit
Australian TV.
I've heard them actually I've heard Chuck Davis and
when James said that on his show I had no idea what the hell he
would he just said I was like something in Flash. What is this
English when What is this? A machine is like a reggae band or
something?
Yeah. It's it's also kind of like a punch line.
Okay, but we get anything else because no I mean well.
Okay, so what did you get anything? Yeah, I used to really
super busy until the October 15. The crazies over over there
Yeah, and the professional server financial services world
Yeah, yeah, tax times always hard for us. But I'll it's
really it's really the the other stuff that's that's holding me
up so much the database export stuff. And, but once we get once
we get past October 15, everything will be better.
Okay, man. Well, thank you for for staying extra late here.
Thank you ladies and gentlemen. And have yourself a great
weekend day.
You too, man. Enjoy your Friday night.
Yes indeed. I'm about to go get a little bit of grub throw some
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