podcasting 2.0 for August 19 2020 to Episode 98 It's a
girl Friday. Hello everybody, welcome once again to podcasting
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The namespace which we'll be talking about today and of
course everything that goes on in podcast index dot social. I'm
Adam curry here in the heart of the Texas Hill Country and in
Alabama, the man who put the V in value for value say hello to
my friend on the other end ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Dave
Jones.
I told I told our top secret guests like as as we were
getting ready to launch I said you know usually the way this
happens you went you you did a pre show go to the little
podcasters I said okay, usually how this happens is while when
Adam goes goes into the intro, I'm just I'm furiously typing
and trying to post these things to Twitter and Mastodon all at
the same time. And but this time I'm going to be all calm and get
it done set up and good. Yeah, free
and then what happened? I'm currently right in the middle of
furiously typing.
Oh, indeed.
We did. Did you? Did you look at the clips
I got your clips I didn't I never look at anybody's clips.
That's
no don't even look he didn't know and look at the names or
anything. Yeah, I
looked at the names and I saw something that I saw previously.
But otherwise now I have no idea.
You need to take special attention to the ISO yeah,
there's I believe there's two of them.
Yes the fruit one
there's there's that one there's there's another one because I
had to I had to go to the defense of another chicken from
a halt this Oh no.
Wait a minute. Are you down to one chicken at this
point? No, I saved this one's life. We're literally saved this
chickens live up to man. Take some coffee. And I hear you're
all this nuts in the backyard. And I know, I know the sound
this time you know didn't like you remember when you had
chickens? When you had your kitten when you had your kids?
Your kid and
I've spent several years trying to forget but okay, if you want
to bring me back to that pain? Yes. Little little I still have
some I still have Oh, little infant. Okay. Christina 30 years
ago. Yeah. Okay.
And you could always tell as the parent you could tell the
difference between uh,
oh, yeah. Yeah, of course. Of course. Yeah.
Well, this way it is with chickens. You can tell bulk
distress versus just by a sound Sure. Versus an egg is coming
out distress and yeah, like, and I hear distress. And I ran I ran
out in this hole was standing on top of the chicken. Oh, no. And
the ending was just like a hawk Hawk now Hakan can mess with
you. This Hawk was about a foot tall
dam and when pew pew this was a special Hawk is a second this is
cool. Hold on
that's what I should have done. I should have brought a bullet
pellet rifle. And by the by the backdoor. This chicken was so
sad though. I mean, like, I saw the Hawks standing on and you
could look at his face. And it's like, it's like it's over.
It is and now you already struck at him.
I don't know what he did. But I went out there and you know, and
clap my hands and he flew off and then the chicken get jumped
up and ran under the deck. So okay.
Oh, man. Good to go. Chickens. Dave Jones. Save your chickens
everywhere.
Yeah, our yard has evidently become known as the most halt as
the place to get cheap fresh.
Like cafeteria.
Good. Meat, meat and three.
Well, I had a very I had a very late night myself not fighting
with with Hawks. I did learn a lot about lnd last night.
Yeah, I was such a douche. You. You were clearly dealing with
something and I just want the best.
So everyone went to bed. So let me explain the product. Let me
explain the problem. I'll tell you what happened. Okay, okay.
So all of a sudden podcast index is not routing to my node at
home. And that's kind of my monitor, you know. So I have
very like a 1% split of a lot of different shows just so I can
see the booster grams, etc. And it's not routing anymore. Now I
have channels I can key send from the index to my note all of
that works. And I'm just like, What is going on here? And so,
you know, I had three or four channels, I had this mysterious
channel for something called Justin Trudeau, which has just
been sitting there for a while but has been sending SATs.
Is it him? Is it actually I don't know.
But Justin Trudeau is node is connected to a lot of podcasting
2.0 stuff. And, and I have to be honest, that the name really
turned me off. So, yeah, so I'm messing with all this. Alright,
let me close these channels, let me get rid of fucking Justin
Trudeau stuff, well, then nothing came through booths
wouldn't come through. So apparently, the Justin Trudeau
channel had been providing me with at least some booster grams
for quite a while and the podcast index channels were
doing nothing. And then as I'm looking around, I'm seeing that
there's different channels across the board. With, you
know, some that we've open to other nodes that have this
similar problem. That's like, Okay, let me see what's going
on. So I really can't figure it out. I do not know what's
happening. Now, of course, I've updated my Umbral, we've updated
the podcast index node, everyone's running on lnd 15.01,
slash beta up your butt. Who knows what that is? If all it
could be anywhere at this point. So I ping Graham, and this is
now 930. Because okay, I'm just not getting I'm not getting
boosts. I'm not getting streaming SATs, nothing.
For those people that don't know, Graham, he's He does, He
doesn't sleep he's made of metal. And in Vudu, I mean, he's
so just like, at any time of the night he in response,
at 1115, he cut out. He's like, man, I was up really late last
night, I gotta hit the hair, I'm gonna make mistakes. It's okay.
It's alright. But we did figure out a couple of things. And one
is that my chant, none of my channels were syncing to any, to
any other channels. So my node wasn't syncing to any other node
through a channel. And it turns out, there's a set number,
channel sync peers, and that's default is three. And
apparently, our node had none. So that was part of the problem,
because, well,
now I don't I don't understand what what is the setting or
configuration parameter do.
So when you open it, so what you have channels that are open, and
the way that your node tells the rest of the world, what channels
you have open is by an update to the graph. And the graph itself
works through the peers. So when your node starts up, by default,
it selects three peers. I don't know what criteria I'm sure that
it has some. And it then syncs your graph with that peer, and
then that peer supposedly will sync with, you know, so that's
kind of how the graph gets out there.
It's the it's the gossip is the way it gossip, the gossip.
Yes, thank you. Now, meanwhile, I'm looking at the logs. And I'm
trying to find out, why are these sets not coming through.
And this is a, this was very educational for me, the way
developers sometimes communicate through logs,
or lack thereof?
Well, so I would get these error messages consistently, which to
me meant, okay, it's trying to send me one sat or something.
And it would say, can't can't re forward, insufficient bandwidth
to forward HPLC. So I kind of understand the HPLC and
forwarding that and that's no way to decipher where it's
trying to forward to. But insufficient bandwidth is a
weird term. So the first thing I do is I'm like, oh, maybe my
node popped on, on this on the Starlink. And let me I'm looking
at bandwidth, right? I'm like, maybe Tor is under attack.
Graham said that too. Now, there's been some DDoS on Tor to
maybe somehow my node came back up and switch to the satellite
network. And maybe that's the problem. So it took me a good 45
minutes before I was able to find in some GitHub issue. No,
no, this is just how we report when there's not enough
liquidity to get to wherever suppose and forward considering
payment fees, etc. Okay,
tear this is a terrible, very bad, terrible way to describe
it. The word choice here is typical, developer complete,
garbage like condition that should that term should never
have been used for that description,
but I can also see in building the light and light Lightning
Network and I can see Adam and de fucking around building this
and then we'll be like, Hey, man, it's just like the old
peering of bandwidth. You know, let's, so we'll just we'll just
look at it as bandwidth not as value. You know, I don't know, I
can see how that happened. But down the road Young. Exactly, I
would have said, this is a great name, and then you would have
gotten down and now let's not do so. So. Okay, so basically, any
channels that were created when these peers were not syncing,
never got synced to the graph, and were acting kind of as just
private channels, because no one knew about them. And apparently,
l&d does not go back later and say, Hey, let me check and make
sure that everyone's everyone's communicated to the graph. So
you know, it just took me a long time to close and open channels
and make sure that they were showing up on em boss, and then
we finally got to work. And as you can hear, there's many
pupils coming through. So. And once again, I'm amazed that any
of this shit works at all. Oh,
is same. So you sent me this is this is related in this. In
terms of terminology. You had sent me a document about
lightning node Connect? Yeah, maybe about a week ago or so a
couple weeks ago. And had written in my notes, we didn't
talk about it at the time on the last show, but I'd written in my
notes, this, this type of language in a spec is
infuriating. And in a in, here's the quote, this is from this,
the spec for lightning node Connect. Lightning node Connect
is a protocol that allows a node operator to safely and easily
connect a web or mobile application valency does not
require the node to expose any ports. Instead, the application
and the node are connected through a proxy server called
the mailbox, the connection between node and application are
end to end encrypted. Okay. From that wording, do you have any
idea of what this thing? No, no, I
have no clue. I don't even remember what I sent you. I know
it was something that I liked. But I don't think I read the
specs or anything. I think I just read like the marketing
doc.
This is the top line paragraph graph of the intro.
Why did I even send that to you? Why did I send that to you?
I mean, what's not? What's an operator? What does that mean?
Is that is that the you know, is that me? Because I mean, is that
a human being? Because I can't connect to some mobile
application? Was it allowing the operator to connect? I don't
know what this means. I don't know. Developers should not
write documentation. Or logs,
yet. Seems like you're very good at it. Yeah, well, I'm the
exception. Well, speaking of, of documentation, I'm very pleased
that James Cridland heard the call, took took up the challenge
and started building the podcast namespace.org.
Very green. Now,
he did exactly what I hoped would be done is take take the
whatever branding, make it your own, you know, make sure it's
all connected, you know, don't try and make an island. And he
seems to make it open if people jump in. I don't know if he does
he have collaborators yet if people offered to help, because
that's going to take some time to fill all that out. Man,
there's a lot of writing to be done. And a lot of work.
Let's go to edit this website, which is a GitHub repository.
And this website. Yeah, let's see what the commits are. Every
single commit is James Kirtland. So nobody is helping with this
web site.
That's, that's not cool people. James Shea.
But But James, this has about 5000 commits here. So he's, he's
Holy crap. He's doing he's he's doing the Lord's work. That's
for sure. Yeah. What's it is James created, there's
github.com/james Cridland slash podcast. namespace.org. If
anybody wants to go and pitch in,
like, you can just go to podcast. namespace.org. Yeah.
And
then you can click on the edit this website at the very bottom
left. Oh, I
see what you're saying. Okay.
And that will take you to the GitHub repo. Yeah, I
like this a lot. I like it a lot.
Can you tell me this party? Because James was saying this
morning that as part of trying to find example, screenshots and
stuff like that for these tags. He's trying to find, as is, you
know, based on the news today, obvious why. He's trying to find
examples of transcript transcripts on various apps and
how in screenshots and demo videos. Do we know if podcast
addict does too Transcripts because I could have sworn it
did.
I think I have it. I think I have podcast addict Toronto
is it it's showing transcript in the supported tag list on the
site, but he said he couldn't you he, he couldn't get it to
work and I don't have an Android phone so I don't know how to
test it.
I do have an Android phone. Let me test I will in fact, I will
test one with episodes. We test this one we see visit that's the
show notes. Okay, hold on a second.
Unnecessary devices. Now let me add paddle. Well, here's here's
something Okay. Here's something that we need to we need to talk
about with with James. He doesn't have transcripts in his
own shows.
No, I thought he did. I think pod land has no iPod news pod
way. And now I'm pretty sure pod land has transcripts? I think
so. I've seen them I've just don't they come out of
Buzzsprout automagically.
No, you gotta do it. I think it's an extra step when they
hold on.
While you're looking at the feed while I'm like I'm not gonna
argue with that. If you're looking at the feed, and I'm
gonna
Well, I'm I'm opening it right now. Looking at the guy yeah,
you live white man speak with forked tongue. Let me see.
Oh, here it is. Okay, we're both right. How can that they did not
have any transcripts up until up until the last two episodes are
the first ones that have transcript. Okay. So Well, the
first 90 episodes did not have to let
me say something about transcripts. Because the news is
there was a lawsuit against I think Sirius XM, who own where
they own Sirius podcast, one XM, whatever, they have
Pandora building on Pandora.
Right? But they have, they have a podcast, what they buy that
pod bean, they bought something. Anyway, so that egg, they got a
lot of shows high end talent, etc. So someone and I happen to
know a lot about this. I know a lot about the American with
Disabilities Act, I know all the ins and outs dealt with it in
many different versions, my wife has dealt with it. And all
positive, because the bottom line is complying with the ADA,
the Americans with Disabilities Act comes into play when, when
it is something that is a public good. So in the case of the
Ronald McDonald, house, charities were Tina worked.
Whenever they did a video on their website, they had to have
not just a captions or transcript is different, but
captions, they also had to have, you know, a secondary track that
says man enters the room with a blue manager's room with a blue
sweater on, you know, that kind of stuff. Because that is a
public good that people, the public need to be able to find
out about to make use of this facility, even though it's
private. It's a private nonprofit. Okay. Now, for
entertainment shows, I do not see the need for that.
Personally, I don't see why not. Um, let's just put that upfront,
it makes no sense. It's super easy. There's tons of places you
can get it, it makes no sense to just integrate that it really,
it's crazy not to do that. However, I do not believe any
company should be forced, certainly not. And I think
James's words were big commercial companies should be
forced to do anything. You know, if it's under the guidelines of
a public thing, you know, then alright, that's different. But
it's not just, you're a big commercial company. In fact, I
really despise that. Because the next thing that's going to come
down the pike is even though he jokingly does it, if you're a
commercial podcast every single time you mentioned someone who
sponsors you, you have to say it, I'm sponsored by them.
That's what this leads to. So I'm not a fan of mandating that
just because, you know, just, you know what I mean? I think
the law is fair, when it's a public good. We need the same
like we need wheelchair ramps and different bathroom
facilities. I'm okay with all that. That makes sense. And
that's been argued and that's been you know, there's laws
about that, but not just because you're big and commercial.
No, I I'd say I think I think I would agree with that just
because you're big and commercial angle to that I think
the plant The playing field has to be fair, across the board. I
mean, otherwise, you run into a situation where you have just
like was in the US for that I'm sure a lot of other countries
for a long time, you had this, you had Amazon that enjoyed a
note, a no state tax, you know, lifestyle where they didn't have
to pay state taxes, therefore, there was always an advantage to
ordering Amazon versus shopping at your local store. Because the
local store had to pay you had to pay local city and still in
state taxes when Amazon did not. And so it was just basically a
huge unfair advantage. Propping up of a big corporation. I mean,
in well, we saw the same thing during the pandemic. Yeah, the
local mom and pop shops got shut down, you know, in droves. And
the only the only stores that could stay open were Amazon.
Amazon, Walmart. Right?
Right. Yeah, sure. Sure.
Yeah, oh, there just has to be there has to be balance in the
way the law is applied. Otherwise, you end up with with
it, otherwise, you end up with favoritism in one direction or
the other, you know, the big companies should not be unfairly
punished themselves. Small companies should not be unfairly
punished. They shouldn't. Everybody should be equal under
the law. I don't. I think the problem here though, and then
having to figure that out is what qualifies, I guess what
qualifies as a public? As a public good, because we can, we
can see this, this is what this is what case law becomes what it
becomes? Because Absolutely, when you when you first
published something like, you know, when you when you put in
an amendment to the to the US Constitution, about interstate
commerce, or, you know, equal protection, will they go in
meaning one set of things will then eventually they always
become, you can morph lots of things to fit the definition of
that other of that original meaning sure, in the like, I'm
not sure that there's a clear, public good seems, seems vague
enough to be able to apply a lot of a lot of stuff to it. I
prefer, like, you know, I mean, maybe it's just my libertarian
tendencies here. But I prefer the idea of let letting you
could call it the marketplace, but I don't, I don't really like
that term in this in this scenario, you could let pressure
be applied by by people who have an interest in so I mean, you
know, the lawsuit is one thing, but then also, boycotts are long
standing, you know, unions cropped up for this reason, in
the day, like that society will self correct a lot of things
without have without needing the hand of government do it. And
you know, and I understand that, you know, there's always going
to be counter arguments to this, I don't really want to get
involved in that. But, but you can see, society shifts in lots
of ways over time, that did not depend on the government to do
things sometimes in spite of the government trying to do it. Look
at a look at marijuana legalization that never came
from government that purely came in it was it was ripped from the
hands of government by by society. And, and the public
said, we're not going to handle it, we're not going to take this
anymore. We want this thing to change, and it's going to change
in
it. And that's how we wind up with 87,000 More IRS agents
because we're so against it. I have definitions for you. Okay,
although none of this was written with any online media in
mind. And most of it only applies to video not even to
podcasts. I don't think audio has, as has been addressed
specifically in any of the law. Captioning or transcripts are
required for public entities, including state and local
governments of both internal and external communications, and
places of public accommodations, which are public or private
businesses used by the public at large, private clubs and
religious organizations are exempt. So there's still a lot
of wiggle room in there
in public or private businesses used by the society at large. I
mean, that that could be easily be a podcast app. Yeah,
yeah. Yeah. Okay. But But bottom line is we I think what you said
is it these companies who don't do it, when they easily can, I
mean, certainly we have it, we have it on this show. They
should just be shamed. I don't have to penalize them. I don't
give a shit about that. I don't want that I I despise that part
the most.
I think people do not appreciate. I think many people
do not appreciate the power of, of the public. Social wave OMA,
I don't really know what term to us.
Oh, no, no, no, no, they care, but only when it's about a
celebrity or something else. They do not get you're gonna
trust me on this. Yeah. This has been going on for a long time.
There's not enough people who care to make noise about this.
They don't care. Do you hear that? Deaf people? People don't
care. People don't care about you. And I can't believe I said
that. Do you hear that deaf people
will never be invited on to the Deaf podcast.
Yes, I will. They love me. They love me. Deaf and Blind.
podcasters love me, man.
They're just getting to this part of the Braille so
not Braille.
or what have you. How does that even work? If you're actually
deaf? You got to have something you can't listen to a
podcast. That's why you need a transcript. Oh, because you
still got eyeballs? Yeah, yeah,
exactly. That's it's I would say it's more for people who are
hard of hearing but we have so many foreign listeners who love
it. It's like oh, you know, I miss some stuff and I can read
along and it's it kind of helps. And I grew up in a country that
had subtitles so it's second nature for me and I see only
benefit
the beautiful The beautiful thing about podcast transcripts
too is that like what I was just saying about taking time to
catch up like it is on television or or actual Braille
if you have to read Braille because I evidently don't know
the difference between blind people and deaf people sorry the
there's a reason for that by the way is a completely free from
this week but the you know podcast transcripts every every
example of a podcast app I've seen there that does transcripts
they're like immediate man there Johnny on the spot. It's
tracking really good. Yeah. With the spoken word. Yeah. No delay
like there is with closed can own broadcast television.
Now well, that's real time stuff. And yeah. Okay, what else
was I going to say here?
Well, I get the the idea about what I totally lost my note
here. Oh, I've got I brought some some clips. I had a in
this. This may also work into this week. If you think of it
anytime we need to stop and bring our guests and just
Yeah, after you. Let's do some clips and we'll bring our guests
and I think would be appropriate.
Maybe we should bring together a guest in first and do clips with
the Are you sure but the guest
Yeah, she commands a lot of attention.
I'm 100% in favor of this.
Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome to the podcasting 2.0
boardroom one of the first video value for value podcasters Hey,
it's alright Brian of London I know three speak was probably
before would also dame of the no agenda roundtable. And friend
please welcome Dane Jennifer.
Hey, guys.
Hey. Yeah, we got a full on Hey, guys night. Yeah,
I was wondering if I should do the NPR. Hi. Well, I
was I was that would have been actually let's let's re intro
you. I wanted to just so people know who named Jennifer is she's
been around since almost the beginning of this show as well
with her perfect jingles. Now
it's time for some hot namespace talk.
Which we subsequently banned for a while because we felt you
know, there was like no women on the show ever broke that rule.
But yeah, we fix it. Yes. We fixed it. Yeah, your
ESG score is up by one. Yes.
The token woman.
Yeah, sorry. I'm white and sis and hetero. So I don't
know. Yeah. Well, welcome to The Club. Yeah. But you're female.
So you have woman point? Yeah, exactly. Get some point. We get
some points for that. You know, and I was talking with with Tina
last night. And it was kind of like, what to what exactly does
Dame Jennifer do? You know, because you have all these
talents. You organize? Regular meetups, you organize meetups
for no agenda. You've organized I think you do Bitcoin meetups.
You clearly the queen of Charleston. You know you took
such good care of us when we were there and everybody knows
you as like, oh Jennifer. And and you know you're you're it's
It's fascinating, smart person. And I like Thank you. What does
she do? Other than other than jingles other than videos? You
know, this animated no agenda is, I mean, you're the first
ever saw using this tool. And I mean, you've been you've I don't
know how many you've produced so far, but it's unbelievable. It's
been unbelievable for the show. You know, you do corporate
voiceovers, I think you do marketing, you know. And now, do
you just have a trust fund and you hang out with people or do
you have a job?
Yeah, according to you that I have an island off the coast of?
Yeah, exactly. Yes. You have that island. And then you just
come inland for a bit to hang out with the plebs?
No, I, I have been. I was well married. And my neck will
marry well.
We were all well married her. Yeah.
Unfortunately, that has ended. And so is that
the scent now? Is that the same for roses? Is that the same as
what they used to be called a kept woman? Were you a kept
woman?
No, I just
know, because I knew you before the divorce.
Yeah, I wasn't I mean, working? Yeah, he, he owned a small IT
services company
on this island? Yeah, of course. This was when we
were in, in Chicago. And so I, I kind of started working in the
business. And then I would just pick up I became kind of a Girl
Friday. So these small, whatever.
Now it makes so much sense. Okay,
I don't know what this term mean. Can you explain to me
girlfriend, let
me let me try. And let's see if that matches up with Jennifer.
Because I've hired many girl and boy Fridays, these are this
makes so much sense. In a company, typically someone who
was in early at the formation at the startup, you know, employee
number two or number three. And this is just a person who may be
applied initially, to be to, like office management or
whatever. And they turn out to be so skilled in so like from
software integration packages to you name it, all kinds of stuff.
And so it's kind of like this person is in every meeting. And
it's when no one knows what the fuck to do is like, Hey, do you
know how to do it? Don't worry, I'm I'll figure it out. Does
that kind of match?
Ah, absolutely. If there were, if there was something that, you
know, the client would throw up against the wall, and if it
sounded interesting, I'd figure it out. So yeah, so I do have
some marketing and yeah, of course, the voiceover but I also
did, like, I've got certified as a Microsoft, Small Business
Server Administrator.
All Over the Map.
I wasn't I wasn't meeting planner for a long time. Did a
huge conference of 7000 people in New Orleans. Yeah, like so.
Girl Friday, it just seems to kind of be the best. So that's
why I'm not surprised that people don't know what I do.
Because, you know, it's kind of Jack or Jill of all trades. And,
and I hate saying that. It does sound cheesy, but no, it just
fits what yeah,
it just clicked for me like oh, okay, totally makes sense. Well,
yeah. So we're even perhaps even more appreciative of of the time
talent and treasure that you put in of which it's all three
because you actually charge actual money for the stuff that
you're doing for us Yeah, you're not just hanging out doing a
little bit of podcasting and by the way, the animated no agenda
I mean, that's those are serious productions. It's that's not
just something you throw together how long does it take
you to do each minute worth of work if you can calculate it
that way?
I I'm down to not including listening to every episode twice
to three hours per minute. Well, you know, you have to listen
twice and then you know, but there were there was a few
months where there was just nothing funny because I like to
bring
OH, OH
That came out wrong. It was not funny because the humor was in
like,
Hold on. Hold on a second.
Let me dig in the grave.
Nevermind. I was going through a divorce and my boyfriend broke
up with me. Come on, you guys.
That's what wasn't funny. Was was not funny at all.
No, there were just things were so bleak that I think even the
small bits of humor. It was just It was really hard for me to do.
But I've gotten it down to about about three hours per minute
what now that I kind of, yeah, but they're only three minutes
long, three and a half hours at work. Yeah, but there's a sweet
spot because we, you know, you can see when people drop off,
and we can hold them until almost the three minute mark,
which I think is pretty good. Yeah. And so I don't I, you
know, I enjoy doing the longer ones. But if you're going to
lose them at three minutes, you know, don't leave the punch line
to the end. So
yeah, you learned you learned a lot about doing video for sure.
Yeah, it's been really fun. And my third anniversary is your
50th anniversary.
Oh, man. Is that when you did the first one? Yeah, it
was for the for the 12th anniversary because I was short
on cash flow at the time. And I thought, well, I can't
contribute treasure. I'm trying to learn this to me Girl Friday,
trying to learn this tool for a client. And it suggested
starting with an audio clip that was already produced and my
client didn't have our script ready for what she wanted me to
work on. So Sharpton had just said, gurgles Kurt you Yeah,
instead of and I'm gonna say it wrong instead of Gamble's
girdles. And it was like the funniest thing I've ever heard.
And I, you know, got together
and showed that to your client. That's not funny,
but I also I sent it to you guys for you know, like a happy
anniversary. Didn't put it on YouTube or anything. And then
the views started to go up and I went What the heck happened? And
I saw that. Adam, you had tweeted it.
Oh, wow. Here we go. Have you turned that into a business? Was
that? Is that part of your business now? animations and
things?
No, it's just a hobby. I did. I did. Okay, I've done like three
other very small projects for people. But they were friends.
So
well. It's the shit blows me away every single time. It
really does. Yeah, no, it does. Tina and I the one thing what
does a new AMA? Oh, man, because that's something we get? Because
that's new. I don't know what's going to come and pray and you
edit these things. You edit out all the non funny things. In
fact, you could have edited out several months worth of non
funny things.
I can't believe
you have no idea how red my face?
Come on. Jennifer, we're friends. Yeah, you can do
anything. You know, the minute I mean, actually very early on,
you got this up and running on no agenda tube and you got the
value for value running. Take us through how that came about and
and the steps that you went through? And just what was your
experience as someone who clearly configure stuff out. But
this was new as a so Yang,
and you're also one of the first very few people were using value
for value with video. So this is yeah, this is instructed except
for three speak, which of course was there before?
I keep forgetting? Yes. Okay. He's going to the hive Dao and
Brian of London are going to, they're going to take away our
donations now.
I don't remember the chicken and egg story. And Alex gates may
remember better than I do. But when he created no agenda tube,
I immediately went there. Because I had started getting a
couple of takedowns on YouTube.
What will you do? And oh, this was animated. No agenda. Yeah.
And you know, why don't you know why got taken down? We were
telling the truth. That wasn't funny. It was not funny. But
these guys are not funny. Just kidding. Yeah. No, your answer
was correct. Because never gonna live that out. I'll stop. I'll
stop now. Stop. No, you're right, because we tell the
truth. But it also what you edited is always funny. It's
always funny.
Well, that's the that's the goal. Otherwise,
why bother? Yeah, yeah. Because the
you're I'm trying to bring people to the show. And humor, I
think is the best way to attract people. And so Alex was working
on no agenda tube. And either he started to think about doing his
own fork of it was based on peer tube, listening to you. Why, you
know, pick things up. I'm a little bit of a.
So you have a GitHub login.
I just realized I ended up I used to, and then I just got
because of the you know, the upcoming a hackathon. But um, so
he he did a ton of work on his fork too. Make it podcasting 2.0
compatible and every once awhile he would reach out and you know,
tell me to do something or something had changed and you
know, Can I check it out and so anytime I would post on I call
it YouTube then I would also put it on a no agenda tube and then
so first to support video I think was pod brand and or curio
caster I don't remember who was first of those. And then I think
the only one other one is pod verse, right that supports video
of the new apps you pod
verse does
your pod verse, pod friend cheerio caster? Fountain.
Right. And that's what's weird. I get fountain SATs every once
in a while and I'm like, What are you people doing?
Yeah, so that's interesting. I guess the audio works. Just
listening to Hey, listen a lot.
So Alex, just shout to you. Because Oh, because you will be
uploading stuff on on no agenda tube got it. Okay, cool. Yeah,
yeah. I just love seeing how these things come together. You
know, this is such a interesting community. Yeah,
I think I mean, he he gets 100% of the credit of really, I, you
know, I'm sure that at some point, I asked him, because I'm
kind of annoying in that way. Like, hey, you know, there,
you're talking about XYZ on podcasting. 2.0, can we have
that, but it was probably already on his roadmap. He
always seemed to kind of already have things in mind. So
Alex was born with a plan in every day of his life is just
working the plan. That's the way it goes much. I'm only a little
bit kidding.
Yeah, so that's kind of the history I you know, I would love
to see a more apps support it. But I know that it's a
completely different codec. And you have to deal with all of the
different, you know, resolutions and bandwidth and all that
stuff. So I know, it's not an easy problem
for the long term. Alternate enclosure will help that. But
that's like, Yeah, I think of any, like, of any of the tags or
any of the future, you know, forward looking things. I really
think alternate enclosure is probably the one that is the
most far in the future, because it's going to just I think it's
quite it's complex, because they know you're dealing with
different, like you said, different codecs and things like
that. And that's people, even developers don't want to deal
with that stuff. Exactly what they want. They want to just
roll up in there with an mp3 and be done in lunch. So yeah, yeah.
I mean, one day,
one day, I was surprised that I was surprised to learn, I would
say that the pod pod versus the player they're using for the for
their app that it somehow is not appropriate to do per minute
streaming SATs, which is a shame. I know. They'll get to
it. I didn't realize. I wonder what that what that person when
would that problem is, anyway, not a big deal. I'm amazed any
of this crap work is so cool.
So would it be? Would it be fair to say that, would it be fair to
describe your job as your consultant?
Yeah, I mean, that's kind of that's what I call myself on
unlike LinkedIn, and I need new business cards, because right
now they're, they're like, so cringe, because I've had them
for 10 years. And they essentially say Jack of all
trades.
Yeah. Well, here's your business card. Okay. If you if you have a
company and you want to be successful, hire this woman.
There we go. I like it. That's your business card right there.
I look, you've done so much for me personally for the show. And
then the minute we were talking about hackathon for podcasting
2.0 who raises their hand
me Yes.
developer, you clearly
have the Bona fie days is how you say that word bonus, or is
it bonafide
bonus depends on if you're from Alabama, it's bonafide.
Well, you You clearly have the bona fides and then so Speak for
yourself South Carolina.
Now, sorry, you
know, you've clearly got you know, got the skills to to
consult on this topic. So what what, what do you what are your
out of the gate salts?
Um, well, I I talked to a good friend of mine who is an
entrepreneur, but also a developer and he has started a
few companies and been successful. And so I said, Can
you look at that he's aware of, okay,
so those are the things that see the you were like, you're like
developer, I'm like, check. That's me. Entrepreneur. We
started Potkins a process index check. That's me. And then you
said successful and I was like, that's where that's where So I
have a pen and paper by the way, I'm writing these down because
this is your consultant. So we this is the session, this is the
session. This is
this is just the first meeting, you know, we're gonna have to
have multiple them. But
what, what? Thank you. Meetings? No, I got into podcasting to
avoid that.
Screw this hackathon. This is already about
me. Now. This is my, this is my weekly mean, it's the one
meeting I need.
No, you know, we can I can do this all in writing to, not to
worry. But that one of the first things that he pointed out
because he's aware of what podcasting 2.0 is, but he'd
never looked at the code or anything. So I sent him to the
GitHub, I sent him to the API documentation. And he was like,
first things first, where is the high level flowchart? And I
won't, I'll, I'll bring it up. And I assume that I will be on
me to create, which is fine. I don't, I don't mind it'll help
me
to create the high level flowchart of podcasting. 2.00 my
god, that would be that would be astounding. Create the
high level flowchart and then do a pull request on James's
podcast. namespace.org. You go, I mean, then you've earned every
bit of the zero money that
Hey, she's in the split today, we're gonna give her a healthy
split. Okay. Okay. Yeah, so boost boost for Dame Jennifer
boost,
if please. Because, you know, if we're, if we're trying to
encourage developers who are either just involved in Bitcoin,
but have not listened to any of these shows, or are just
interested in podcasting, but I've never listened to your
show, because the only way that I've ever learned anything about
what you're doing is via the Show podcast, and we can't
expect somebody to go back and listen to 97 episodes.
Yeah, I agree with that. Yeah. Yeah.
Oh, speak for yourself. I love college level course.
Well, it is, if they have the time, but I love what James
Cridland is doing. I took a look at it the first time that he
posted about it on podcast, index dot social. So I don't
know a couple days ago, I haven't looked at it lately. So
I'm going to use that. But I also just kind of like the
simplicity of your slide deck, Dave, that you gave me that. I
sent you that right? Yeah. and simplicity of that, too.
Let me ask you the quick, though, is, is this going to be
a successful presentation with this, we're using this slide
deck.
I, I always like slides that are clean, simple and
understandable. And that is exactly what you had. I loved
how it looked. Now I am going to want to listen to the recording.
Just for my own understanding because I'm going to start I'm
going to have to field questions. I'm guessing he's
gonna say what's gonna happen. I'm going to do my intro. I'm
going to do 13 minutes. I'm gonna give Dave an extra two.
And then Dave is going to start going through the namespace. And
he's and he's just gonna get to block tag, which is number two,
and we're gonna be out of time.
Bullshit. I'm going to have you practice race. No, I'm not I'm
winging this zero practice. First time I do. I'll be the
first time I practice.
I'm a former corporate conference planner. Clients were
Arthur Andersen and Accenture that that no rehearsal doesn't
fly. So it's a good thing. I am not your meeting planner at
Podcast Movement.
So in my in my stint in my day, job life, I do presentations on
a fairly regular basis. Oh, so this will be easy for you. Yeah.
And so and it's all slide based. And I have developed on the fly
capabilities that most normal humans do not have. So I have
this in my bag of tricks that I can speed up and slow down
according to what is necessary to get the job done. I have a
complete half complete and unjustified confidence in my own
abilities to get this
No, I'm sure it is justified. Are they going to have a
countdown clock for you?
I hope so.
They better be No. I'm so excited about our session. I'm a
little bummed now about new media show was doing something
live on stage. And and Greenlee reached out to me hey, we're
gonna have Caitlin would you want to join him? Like yeah,
that'd be kind of fun to have James and meet together. But now
they've got like 18 people on stage for 45 minutes like six
literally six or 45 minutes like that's that's not productive.
It's too much. I think it's too much. Maybe I should bow out.
Yeah, belly about gracefully. You should demure.
Alright, so back to the hackathon. Yes.
So but beyond the flowchart that the other concern that he had,
was that it, because when he I played him the clip when it
first came up in July, and debut proposed it and you said, no
rules just do something cool.
Yes, it sounds exactly. Right. Yeah. And
Greg was like, no, no, no, you're gonna need to tell these
guys what they want. Meaning, you know, you're gonna need to
be a little more specific. So I had an idea and tell me what you
think. So we've been talking about pimps.
See, for a while this is.
Dave's notetaker?
Wait. So we've been, you know, this has been recorded. Dave,
you can go back and listen.
You could just read the transcript. There you go.
There you go. So you've been talking about pimps and I love
the idea of the pimp database. So I wonder if there's not a way
because a little black book now it's just
I know, right? So if, if we were to kind of use the pin database.
Sidenote, sounds ridiculous, as kind of a trial of these are
some ideas that maybe you developers should think about
for the hackathon.
Okay, so what you're saying, If I can just try this, you're
saying, you'd like to develop whatever that means, the pimp
database, we start feeding shit in that becomes the base for the
hackathon.
I think so I think that we've got to give these guys and say,
guys, that really will be primarily men, let's be honest.
But we need to give them some kind of structure, especially if
they're coming at this completely new. And, and if we
can also, the other thing that I feel like I need to communicate
somehow, is, these are the apps that are already utilizing the
namespace in these ways. And that's what your slide deck was
really helpful. Because you had those screenshots of, you know,
here's, here's chapters, and here's a screenshot of a of an
app that's already using it. So that's something I'm still kind
of noodling through is, how do we tell people there are things
that they can look at to see how their current implementation is?
How could you improve upon it, make it better do it
differently, blah, blah, blah, you know, it gets cool, quote,
unquote.
So okay, so the the slides, it sounds like what can happen as a
step one is that after the flowchart is that, this the, the
slide deck, post, talk, the, we could try, we can post the talk,
if possible, if this podcast movement would give us
permission, we can post the talk, and then and then and then
post the slides, and then use that as sort of a, like a, some
guardrails and say, Okay, here's the, here's the tags you have
available to you, and the protocols you have available to
you take these things, and, and then get some inspiration from
the talk. Right, and go and do something along. You know,
that's, that's your that's your, what do you want to say, that's
your that's your set of parameters is, is the things in
the talk to get you to get the juices flowing?
Yeah, and then we have the pimps that the community can
contribute to have, you know, these are things that I've, you
know, seen lacking or would like to see, or you know, that and I
kind of see, amps may be coming from listeners, and producers or
meeting podcasters more than current developers, but I could
be wrong, because, oh, no,
I think that's, that's critically important that
podcasters and listeners have ideas that developers don't
think of, and vice versa. It's absolutely and I would say, we
have to make sure that it's not just, you know, new tat we don't
necessarily need new tags, but here's all this stuff. Here's
all this data, here's how it's categorized. What can I do with
that? Right? To create make?
Yeah, and you know, and there are so many other I mean, I was
also thinking well, what a hosting company one it, can we
kind of have three different buckets we could have, we want
to do something cool. For a listener, we want to do
something cool for a podcaster. We want to do something cool for
a hosting company. I'm not sure how much the hosting companies
need or want anything. But it was just kind of the third
audience that was a potential.
They want stuff that I think they definitely want stuff.
Because what the one thing that hosting companies really want to
know, is what listeners want. They they really want to know
that because they don't. I mean, they get some feedback. But the
feedback is, the feedback really doesn't come from the listener,
the feedback always comes from the the podcaster. You know, I
want to I want to get this and, you know, you rarely have so you
don't really have a scenario where a listener is listening to
a podcast on Apple podcast, says, you know, this, it'd be a
great idea for this thing to be a part of this podcast for this
feature to be part of this podcast. Let me look up the
hosting companies who this petition them, like that doesn't
happen. Right? The podcasters themselves have to communicate
that through. So if no, I think the hosting companies definitely
want as much input from all parties as possible. They, they
they really thrive there, their businesses thrive on, on feature
development and pushing. So out there, I think they would be big
fans of that.
So how do we get you started with the database? Have you
already thought about this? Of course I
have. But I wanted to talk it through before I even move too
much further forward. But I guess, I mean, I can build
something or I can find a tool, I bought a domain. And I have a
landing page for it. That's just super cheesy. So that if you're
at Podcast Movement, and you run into somebody who might be
interested in you, they at least have a place to go and it's just
it's PC.
Two zero.com 209
Yeah, two, zero, the numerals. So that'll be kind of the
landing to some people. And I don't know if that's where we
host the pimp database or
anything. Specifically, do you have any skills with setting up
databases?
I used to? It would I would need to clear some cobwebs.
I don't think we need that. I don't I don't think we need to
go to that level. I think because the GitHub repo, I think
that that's the way to do it. One is, yeah,
yeah. That's what I mean, it's built for stuff like this. And,
okay, the GitHub, the namespace repo. Also has a wealth of
issues that have already been created in and of ideas that
people had. Yeah, yeah. True. True, that nobody's picked up
and done anything with.
So you can raise a nice thought you didn't like the way it was
being communicated? Or
I remember I remember Dave saying that, too. Yeah.
I do. I don't like the way this is communicated.
About the structure, like the structure you'd have with issues
or something or something you'd write it
wasn't working for you.
It's It's messy. I mean, it's messy. But I guess what I'm
saying is like the so what I've what I've started doing is, is
when there's now that we have the pimp system, whenever,
whenever a new one is put, like the first one is the Verify tag,
wait,
we don't have a pimp system. Where's, where's where's
the pit? The PIP system is the GitHub is GitHub projects. I
started creating a project
Oh, I didn't know I didn't know this was taking place
did we've not discussed unless you do not discuss this in the
board meeting. So the what I did with PIP two, which is the
Verify tag as I put it as a project,
and then when you have a project, then you can have
comments and shit under that you can link issues to it. And
you can you can assign it, you can assign sub tasks of the
project to different developers and blah, blah, blah, but it's
just my way of tracking it. So you know, but I think the just
dig through the issues list is probably a great place to start.
Just to get
brainstorming convert them to camps, do we reach out to you or
do a pull request or I don't know how I just
yeah, you can just you can just put you know, if somebody sees
something, they can put it to me. I can I can I can also spend
some time digging through there because I can probably spot
things pretty quick. Right? That has there's a lot of stuff in
there that was just like nah, this is not good. But I think
one thing Adam said was was important that we don't we want
it to be clear. You said this, be specific. And one thing to be
specific on is we don't want new tags. We want, okay, existing.
We want the existing we've got to we're getting way in for in
front of our skis here because you're 18 tags into this thing
and a few protocols. And and we still have, you know, apps that
only support one tag. Right? So if there was, we don't want new
tags. So that's one guardrail. And then the more general idea
is, take what's already there already available
and do something cool with that bill. How about a cool search?
You know, there's all kinds of stuff that I can come up with
Discovery discovery, yes. The elusive discovery? Yeah. Now
we've been talking about so. So how would a Normie, like a
listener who's not going to be on GitHub? Should I build
something for them to submit to me, and then I can transfer them
to GitHub or what are you? What do you think? Well, I think
I think we should just make a new repo a column on Yeah. 22?
Yeah, I think so. Yeah. And then there's an enlisted have,
hopefully, normally, this is for developers. So developers need
to de they'll already know how to do these things, right? To
submit issues. And
a hackathon is kind of by default. I mean, it's important
that podcasters and listeners are welcome. But it's really a
developer thing.
Yeah, in the in your your site, your hack, PC 20 hackathon.com.
That that can can be the the sort of explainer and gore and
Gabriele setup. And then they say, and then you pass them off
to write a hackathon 2022 repo.
Okay. Yeah, that's kind of what I was thinking. I mean, either
we need, we need like an onboarding for people who heard
about it sounds interesting. But, you know, had the
experience that Greg did, which was like, Where what? You know,
like, I need a flowchart.
What is this float? Can I ask you about the flow chart?
Because this is, what is the flow chart? Charting?
I don't even want to know, I just want to have it. Yes. I
want a flow chart. Well,
here's what is the chart? What is the flow? What flow is being
charted?
If. So that was one of the things that I need to and you
just reminded me, I made myself a note, I need to ask him for an
example of one. And I was gonna go to one of his companies and
see if his, like, his API has a flowchart and just see, you
know, well, I like are you?
Are you? Sure? Yeah.
Right. So that's, I'm not 100% Sure. But it was something that
was the first thing he was looking for, which is kind of a
schema, you know, of like, what's going on here.
When I think of flow chart, with podcasting, 2.0, I think of
something I've wanted for a long time. Is a is like a motion.
This is this sounds like, sounds so much like an old man, when I
say this motion graphic, like, that's dumb term, but like, a
graphical representation of the flow of Satoshis as they go
through the value for value network system. With with, with
motion showing the showing flow?
Yes. Where money goes in? For value for value, that will be
cool. Yeah,
value for value. Yeah.
That's just the one that's like one piece of the pie. And
they're really
talking more about a visual description of the API. sounds
like to me,
I'm gonna, I'll double check with them. Because I told him, I
said, I bet I'm gonna have to do it. And so I may have more
questions. But, you know, and I will probably have questions for
you, Dave. As I start to kind of understand. And then, you know,
try and figure it I mean, I will try and figure I went to
Montessori. So I learned
I can get a steady learner.
Is that where you learn how to eat clay and stuff?
I didn't eat dirt, but
that's my way of you. Kids are cool, man. They get it
suit. You're just you're really well taught the funny thing is I
when I meet someone at a party, I can tell Yeah, it's very
weird. It's like it's kind of a superpower.
Well, there's there's something else now when you when you hit
the party's because you have a new glow about you. Hola Dave.
Grab this you got that sword. Oh, yeah. I'm gonna grab that
because we now need to officially pronounced the KU as
David Jennifer data now your official name So here's your
scissors. Here's your scissors. Yes, your sash your scissors. We
really appreciate this, Jennifer and of course, we're here for
for anything. Anything you need, let us know. And we'll jump in
and whatever we can.
Yeah, I mean, we're gonna have to down the road. It's not
something we need to obviously solve today. But then how do we
start, you know, organizing the presentation of what these
developers have come up with? And then some kind of voting
process. Do we do like a sweet 16? And, you know, we'd
like, Oh, man. Yeah, like the tournament? They like NC double
Yeah. Double A tournament? I'm not familiar. Yeah, well, you
have like, you know, you have a bracket of 64. And then it goes,
the winners go to 32. Then the 16 teams into a didn't afford
then did the? Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. So
you're kind of pairing? Brackets, brackets. So yeah,
brackets, there's, there's the word. Thank you. Um, so you know
that that's something else. But I mean, we're not there. Like,
right now, I think that the primary thing is get people
involved and interested, who, if they heard about it, and could
get their head around, it would love to contribute? Oh, and
what's the what's the money? Like, can we start saying that
there's money, there's a bounty or is there,
it's going to be value for value, the voting will will be
done with Satoshis, I would presume.
But here's, here's my own, here's the plan, the only plan
I've come up with for the, for the SATs for the for the prize
money is, is create, I like your idea for like a blog or bracket
or whatever you you know, have some sort of an initial voting
that goes through where you could get it down to maybe four
projects. And then then we could create, like four different
podcasts with each with, with each description, just just one
episode, just describing what the, what the project is. And
then everybody sends SATs to the project that they think worst
is, is the winner. And then just add up, whoever gets the most
SATs is the winner and then they get they get the prize, they get
the whole kitty. That's that was the only thing I had, there may
be a much better way and open to, to all that we I mean, we
could just, you know, we could The other alternative is just
how about this and
change the future and win valuable prizes? That's, that's,
that's there. Right there. Yeah, change the future, and win
valuable prizes?
Well, we, we could just say, you know, put $1 value on it.
$500 $1,000. Now, whatever.
Value, value, value for value, watch this. We're gonna figure
this out real quick. These things present themselves. Okay,
I would not start off with, Hey, we got you. First of all, we
don't have 500 bucks. We can't promise anything. True. That's
true. Then, you know, it's like people should be here for the
fun of it. Normally, people pay you to come to the hackathon.
What do you think? What do you think about about doing it
purely through podcasting to do podcasting app boosts? Yeah,
something like that. I like that a lot. And you have four
different podcasts or two different pods. I mean, two
different podcasts per project. And it's just one episode. Like,
this project is about the alternate enclosure tag and
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then they just vote. That
sounds extremely boring.
Now that does that sounds like a shit idea. We're gonna have to
think about it. Let's Yeah, stick a pin in it, everybody. I
don't know how to do. What are most hackathons? It is not
always money involved in a hackathon is there
I don't know that I would I want money
or lots of free pizza.
Maybe as also people just like, you know, like fans of some
technology. They go and do a hackathon. It's about getting
together and doing it.
Yeah, this is a virtual though there's no
I know. But But Is that not the actual kind of idea of a
hackathon. So what if it's virtual right so what are the
differences that make yeah but you because it's virtual you got
to pay people
No, but I mean that but here's it's not that but it's the
painting the painting to me is more a function of of this of
putting on display the power of value of the value for value
Lightning Network and and podcasting 2.0 value tag like
it's
no no I agree with I agree with that. But there's two things one
is, if we if we say up front, oh, there's Gonna be a prize.
Now we can't say that value for value reward, whatever, we have
to figure out the mechanism, because so if someone sends 5
million SATs to one project, can the other projects ever be a
winner? You got to put some, some parameters in there.
We'll see that's okay. So here's, here's when I said,
create four podcasts, or two podcasts, or whatever this is,
my idea was that we, we have a wallet that's going to receive
the SATs, and we are watching in the voting, the SAT voting, then
when the winner is determined, then we say we send all those
sets to the winner.
No, I understand. But how do you determine the winner? Whoever
gets the most, no, but that's what I mean. That's, that's,
that's going to be that's not going to work because whoever
gets the most sets is like, okay, so I'm a big baller. And I
really liked this project. And I said 10 million SATs. Who's Who
else is gonna win? Right? Yeah, so we have to we have to come up
with so I liked the idea of maybe aiming like gaming it
okay. Yes. Yeah. Yes, like gaming it? Totally. We got to be
careful of that. So maybe
you just have donations of, you know, if you want to give toward
the bounty to encourage development. Great. Here you go.
Put it to this, donate at this time, or put this in your boost
or whatever. And then the voting be completely separate. And it'd
be, you know, however you want blue ribbon panel writing. Um, I
Well, that I don't know, that I I haven't really thought
through. I kind of like the community voting. But I also
think maybe it does just need to be like a board, quote, unquote.
Alright, I gotta I gotta read some booster grams because
people are tripping out now. Because no, no, no, not at all.
Not at all. But we're lit Of course. And so right off the
bat, Todd Cochran. 10,000 SATs blueberry will commit to
contributing to cash pool if this is the way you want to go.
Well, no, no, that's cool. Well, just send us the cash. We'll
take care of it.
Yeah, we'll we'll make sure it gets to the right place.
floydian slips 3200 People go to hackathons, because they are
passionate about a project. They aren't bounty hunting events.
And that's kind of what I thought but I I liked the idea
of using the value tag. Maybe it's putting someone in your
splits. I mean, there's all kinds of we just got to work on
that. Pay two or 50,000 SATs congratulations Dame Jenny bear.
Okay, not quite sure. Booper of noses 800 SATs thank you for
brave noses. And then Holy moly. Darren O'Neil podcast
shot caller 20 plays only
100,001 SATs from Darren says oh yeah, you're a big drop. It's a
pleasure to hear Dame Jennifer bringing some levity to an
otherwise non funny show.
Oh, that's gonna be on my headstone.
2222 from McIntosh who says missing the show live today. I'm
sure it'd be awesome hit me with go podcast. We got blueberry
with the Oso religious 7777 the striper boost Hey, Dame Jennifer
can't wait for a Nashville roller rink. Meet up part two.
Yeah, I met him in February. There you go. Yeah.
Sam Sethi responding Dave with another 1000 SATs. We do have
transcripts. Occasionally it's missing. Occasionally it's
missing but pod land does does okay.
My apologies but deficits here apologies.
Captain Egghead, go V four V with a row of ducks 2222 Thank
you. And let me see what oh my goodness. There you go. We have
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the gematria boost bot in the green room chats these goats are
going to sacrifice themselves.
So this this Gematria boost bot thing he explained it later. And
it's like there's there's a certain code if you if you send
them if you send boosts of a certain amount it it ends up
displaying a certain amount Would you string
Yes and it's fingered fires a different sound as well.
Yeah. And so it's like a game trying to figure trying to get
like decipher this shinda since that's the
shit I expect out of a hackathon. Yeah, that's boost
bots. These these are by the way, these are pretty good
examples. These are cool hackathon. Hackathon things.
leaderboards? Oh, my goodness voting. How about a voting
system? Yeah, voting. Yes, it'll be handy. Very handy. Yeah.
Pfeiffer there's nothing like a dame especially when it's Dame
Jennifer
that's still my second favorite. Well, maybe my favorite anime
had no agenda. I did that really early.
Yeah, I remember I remember. Yeah. And I
every once in a while. It'll come up in my recommendations.
And I'm like, Okay, I'll watch that one. It's cute. Yeah,
anyway.
Let me see Sam Sethi again 1000 SATs Hi, chaps and Jennifer I
know you start about now my Friday night I have my
notification set in pod verse. I seem to let go live or waiting
but where how can I see what actual time you go live in the
apps well that's it there is a scheduled time that is that is
posted I guess it's not surfacing.
I guess pod verse doesn't Yeah, I guess it doesn't display that
I wonder if curio caster does I'm going to be going right now.
Let me see me does curio caster show and I'm talking directly
because I know he's in the chat room sorry. He will tell me if
curio caster shows the time of the upcoming Yeah, I
can't see that now because we're already live. Okay engaged
stream stream engaged Let's rock 1000 SATs from Lehman creations
Thank you very much.
says yes curio Castro does display the upcoming time.
Another 7777 from Pfeiffer obligatory plug for the Sunday
morning to our folk hour on the no agenda streamed live Sunday
mornings at 9am. Central Standard Time. Okay, these plugs
are very interesting. Let's see we have another 1000 from sands
Sam Sethi and then 10,001 from blueberry pod verse boosting for
mobile fields so permissionless totally filled match. Congrats.
There you go. tilled it pimpled Yeah.
Okay, that's a good that's a good phrase.
And thanks. Thanks to meet us for the 20,069 SATs said pre pre
show and he just says what up nerds. And let's see 3200 Now
from Florida and slips per diem Jennifer's request I switch to
no agendas category from comedy to news. 19 148 SATs from Brian
of London Hello Brian of London. He says Let me tell you about
coin voting. He has a little son emoji with the sunglasses
because of course that means that we have to do this in hive.
Right Of course. No, no, it's not gonna happen.
Of course popping seems really cool.
I was gonna say any cool app from anything I don't care as
long as it's integrating what we're doing is great.
Absolutely. It's great. Yeah, pod ping is is beyond this. It's
incredible sometimes to read these comments which are
completely egged on by Brian of London himself. Of course. You
know people gonna like putting on this podcast that to put
always they're building a database with hive that she
called man. Like cheese wheeze people. Like there was a whole
thread Roy forwarded me today. The Ellen URL guys are all like,
well, how come we don't have value for value with ln URL? Oh,
really? Yeah. And, and Bumi was in the thread from Alby and Roy
and everyone's like, well, you know, it would work but you
know, we're doing up to 10 splits. Now. It's, yeah, but the
Ellen URL, you know, it's just one of those really emotional
conversations. And I have to say, Roy, and Boomi they talked
him off and he's like, Okay, I'm gonna go learn key send those
things sometimes, you know, people get real passionate about
technology, especially because Ellen URL has been around it's
very, for enlightening standards and ancient protocol. And
they've gone really far with Elon bits and, and all this
stuff is just, there are some significant differences to it
for us. Elon, URL
author, I mean, all these ed that Do the same thing. It's the
same thing, though. It's always the same thing. Go build
something.
Yes, please build it exactly. Don't
don't complain about not don't complain about things not
existing, just make it exist. That's, that's, that's still the
age old problem with people don't not understanding open
source is that it's not about asking for things. It's about
making the thing, right. I mean, that's what that's the
hackathon. Well, but
you know, what I've noticed. And, and you notice, it's
extremely obvious on the consumer side, but also, I
think, to some degree on the developer side, you know, we've
been so spoiled with Silicon Valley companies being funded
with very cheap money, which is over with all kinds of apps and
things that pop up and are free, and it's all expected to work
immediately. And, you know, I'm not even gonna let this morning,
you know, at this pace of shock, like, holy crap, what's cool,
every time I want to do this, it freezes. And I was just, I was
just letting it go. Because, you know, and I wasn't trying to be
defensive, but I immediately I go into defensive mode, like,
well, this is like two guys or one guy, and you know, yeah, but
you, IT people, it's the same with I don't understand two
point I understand value for I don't get it, you know, and
people are not they're used to it being spoon fed, stuck in
their face completely managed, completely helped. You know, and
developers, I think, sometimes also have this idea of like,
well, listen, index, guys, why don't you do Alan URL just
implemented? You know, not knowing at all, you know, at all
what we're about, or, you know, or how this works, or what we're
trying to accomplish? It's the modern age of technology, people
have been extremely spoiled. And, you know, it's like, Ah,
this, like, people upgrade their phones every year. Right?
Kidding me. So, well,
we got an iPhone in the mail. It was just like an anonymous gift.
So people send me stuff all the time.
Where do I get in on that? Like, how do I get an action? What?
Well, okay, making cartoons. Yeah. Yeah, that's yeah.
You got to start a podcast without me. Now, it's like Tina
and I, we get all kinds of cool stuff. cutting boards, bottles
of wine, you name it. Yeah, that's, I mean, we really do the
show for the alcohol,
as well as the fever five that way.
Yeah. Cutting Board, shall we? Thanks for more of our value for
value donors, Dave. And I would like to say I'm so delighted to
hear the leading podcasting podcasts, all soaking in value
for value. I hear new media show pod land, pod news. Doing
booster gram segments. You know, I love it. That's cool. Oh,
yeah. Well, and you know, and the money's getting better.
People are understanding higher amounts, you know, and that's
why we do have some cut offs. Because of course, there's a lot
of people do a lot of comments for low sat numbers on on
fountain. But it's kind of work it it's interesting, because I
hear pod land, you know, I'll hear James do not pod on pod
news. And it sounds like he's just getting you know, 10 SATs,
20 SATs at SATs where people leaving comments on a daily
episode. And he's not really pitching it's short show. So I
understand he's not really pitching value for value.
Whereas it pod lands I think the numbers are much higher. There
any any I heard him I caught him actually saying, you know, if
you get some value from this show, like wow, okay. There we
go. Yeah.
Mindset, no answer. Yeah. Yeah, we on that. Just real quick
before we do the donations on that thing. You know, about the,
you know, just about the apps and about the, you know, we had
a really good discussion with Pocket Casts that people from
Pocket Casts.
Yes. First automatic and then Pocket Cast. Yes, we did. And
early in the week, and we, you know, we, they were gracious
enough to, to have a zoom call with us, and we pitched pitched
all the podcasts and
I'll tell you the pitch. We would like you to declare the
namespace, the podcast namespace and every single product you
have including Pocket Casts WordPress, everything, and they
win and literally they went well, that sounds like a good
idea. So anyway, we're we're waiting. This is a Todd Cochran
moment we're waiting just to get some time. information on them,
we can just talk about a couple things because it was very
informal. We just don't want to violate any trust at this point.
But we're super pleased. As you know, I've known Matt for a long
time. But he really did build a company with people who give a
shit. And they really care about open source, they care about
open systems. That's what they do, obviously.
I will say confidently that, that Pocket Casts is in
fantastic hands with being big and automatic. Yeah. And I can't
think of a I can't think of a better place for them to have
landed than this grid in May. Yeah. Good, good, good things
are gonna come out of this. I mean, we can, one thing I can
say about our talk with them is that they, they already knew
about this, I mean, or excuse me on the Pocket Casts, they they
already knew about podcasting 2.0 and had plans around it. It
just, they, they had a lot, you know, the automatic
transmissions been big and stuff. So they gotta get through
some stuff. But they, they already knew about the stuff.
And it was a really helpful zoom call to be able to just dig in
to the details, because they, they knew generally about
everything, but they didn't know a lot of the details. And we saw
we did some deep dives on, on the different tags and the way
things work and stuff and really just got to talk, you know,
and but what I liked the most about it is they really saw I
mean, it was a no brainer for them that like, well, so people
are publishing with these, with this extra data and these
features. Yes. Well, why why wouldn't we that sounds like
that's stupid not to.
Yeah, I don't think people realize that how many phase
there are out there that declare the POC test namespace? It's,
it's, you know, 400,000 plus at this point, yeah, that's a
wow, did you did you ever have a chance to check Dave and see of
those 400,000? How many are in the 90 Day Count of updates? Not
done that? That would be something cool to see to see if,
if 2.0 feeds are updated more frequently? Or what percentage
they are, that number may be very small, I don't know. But
the point is, when you have people creating content,
possible 140,000, or whatever it is that at Buzzsprout. Another
100,000 rss.com, you know, 200,000, I have no idea. The
hundreds of 1000s can put in all kinds of tags a lot of these
guys have and people are doing it. This is why I was so
confident to say within a year Apple will have implemented one
or multiple namespace tags. And the reason why is if they don't
they're not business people, then that they have no business.
And if Apple knows anything, they know how to run a business.
It's just it makes me insane. I mean, if everyone is going to
adopt this, everyone will except maybe Spotify, they may not. But
if you want a competitive advantage when the creators are
making it, they're putting it in there that you go.
Listen to you, Girl Friday, she'll tell you what's right.
Yeah, I would love to go back to Pocket Casts as my daily driver
used to be I love that user.
Oh, why did you drop it? Because of 2.0 features? Yeah,
cuz I wanted to play around with SharePoint. I wanted to support
the project. And so I you know, and I move around, but, but I
still have it installed on all my devices. I still love it. I.
So that's cool. I can't wait to hear more.
What do you love about it? Because that would help
developers listen to the show. And they need to know these
things. Okay, the,
the original reason that I subscribed, I paid for a
subscription was that it across any device, I was synced up. So
if I start listening to no agenda on my phone, and then I
come to my PC, and then I go later on my iPad, they that app,
new word that I was, yep. Which I loved it, you have lots of
options per podcast options. So there are certain ones that I
want to be alerted. There are certain ones that I want to
automatically download and add to the queue. So they have this
really nice queue that you can establish and you can say I want
to put this at the beginning of the queue or the end of the
queue. I love that. Yeah, I am a I am a huge, huge fan of Pocket
Casts and every once awhile I still dip my toe in because I'm
like, oh,
there's no shame in that game.
And and they just make it really easy to subscribe to, you know,
if you have the RSS feed. It's like as long as you know how to
find that. It's easy because I as a test part, one of the first
things I did when I went on no agenda tube was I put the RSS
feed into Pocket Casts and said Do they support video? Sure
enough, it worked. I just put it in the Yeah, so they They've
been supporting video for a while, because I did that. It's
been over two years. Yeah. So I'm a huge, huge podcast fan. So
that's exciting.
Oh, good. Well, we're excited. Hopefully they are listening to
the show, and they will hear fervently desire there to be.
Very, very interesting, though, the reasons that you were drawn
to it.
Yeah, that kind of stuff. Hearing hearing listeners
describe why they like certain apps that is so valuable,
because it's not, it's one thing to get a request for something
from from somebody, and it says, Hey, can you please support? Can
you please support an X feature? It's another thing to hear a
sort of, sort of case study where you can listen to a user
who loves an app describe exactly why they love the app,
because then you may not want to replicate that that may not be
the identity that you're looking for in your app. But you can,
you can understand the thinking there and say, Okay, I may be
able to expect to take this and adapt my app to do something
like this, that gives that gives the same feeling but for my
audience in the way I want to do things and then you can expand
your user base that way I think I think it's valuable, very
valuable. We're gonna do some some donations booster grants.
Yes.
And thank you in advance everybody who pre boosted and of
course, you can go to podcast index.org bottom of the page.
There's a big red button donate button you can still reach us
with your Fiat front coupons. Almost no one does anymore. We
do appreciate those monthlies. So we really lucked out really
appreciate the moment we blew out the monthlies.
No, no, no, the
the Pay Pal is not used anymore. Everyone's just boosting right
now. This was a strong Pay Pal week. Oh, okay.
What happened? All right. We
hit we hit it hard. I mean, I don't know what the call went
out. Evidently. And I don't think it was us. Maybe draft put
something in the chapters because
we got we got some help. Okay. All right. All right.
The route I mean, right off the top row voice blueberry
podcasting says $250
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thank you for what you were doing the blueberry team. Oh,
thank you, blueberry team. Thank you, blueberry team. They're
a handsome team.
They are the beautiful team. Richard, he wakes me up, this is
anonymous is nice as soon as $200. And he says it's been a
while. So I will send via old style of transfer, still have
not been able to, I still have not been able to understand how
I'm going to keep track of the boost transactions for the IRS
effectively just helping out anonymously, okay, so that's not
something you have to worry about. For sending now. For
sending when you donate when you when you give away SAS you
don't, that is not something that you have to then convert to
monetary value it convert to US dollar value at the moment, and
then account for that as income on your taxes. You are gifting
you're gifting that asset to another person. And so it's it's
it's a non transaction on your point on your part. The
receiving party has to count that as income at the value at
that time. Right? Yes. So you don't have to go through
anything.
And also it's not a cheap it's not charitable, therefore not
tax deductible in case that was what you were saying. Yes, or no
charity dammit. We're going broke in a capitalist way. I was
gonna say profit but no, no, we'd like profit. We just don't
expect it. It's a difference.
Down the road. It's a mindset. It's a mindset. Thank you very
much evolving dollars. Got $100 from AD Ryan. Hey, radio Inc.
Oh, nice. Thank you, Ed. Yeah, and he says Save the chickens
the The chickens are still strong. They were still too they
were too strong in the back of in the backyard when I get here.
So we're still good. $100 from New Media Productions. And it
says Hey, guys, Todd Cochran here. No podcasting. Oh.
Wow. Professionally and privately. Thank you, man.
This makes me think that this makes me think that Todd doesn't
know that the blueberry team donated $250 They just they
basically went, went into his wallet when he wasn't looking.
Dollars ads not looking. I got an idea.
He showed up to the office and said, Hey guys, I donated $100
to podcasting. 2.0 And they're like, oh, oh, okay.
It's so appreciated. I mean, from Todd but also from his
team. That's, that's really nice. I like that. I mean,
that's how it's supposed to work. This is how value for
value works. We come up with shit, we host it and then they
have to do all the work.
As a security professional though, I would I do have to
recommend that Todd change his Pay Pal password because his
name is evidently is Brian $50 from our buddy Dave Jackson at
the School of podcasting. Hey,
Dave Jackson, thank you so much. Also, you know, he's, he's in
round two, podcasting. 1.0 He taught 10s if not hundreds of
1000s of people how to podcast. He's back doing it with
podcasting. 2.0
Throwing out videos. Good. Good, fun discussion the other night
with the podcasting power. Podcasting Power Hour.
Oh, yeah, I checked into that. That was kind of interesting.
I don't like the format. I hate Twitter spaces. No,
I mean, either I what I think is so funny is that you have people
who are listeners and then and they just are they get to ask a
question and then just go on for hours and hours about themselves
is like I don't kind of like that format that much is boring.
Yeah. Especially the guy is like, why can talk I can no
problem talking. You see, I just need to be able to hit one
button on my phone and that button that just kind of did the
podcast got to be because I that's what I need. I just could
I bet I could tell you I can talk for hours and hours. That's
not the problem.
Oh, that was like, Yes, I believe that. Yeah, that is the
problem. Actually No shit. But that yeah, that was that was
that was interesting. I appreciate them asking me on and
fun, fun questions. Good. Good chance to explain some value for
value.
You're always a pleasant voice to listen to, in an interview.
Appreciate that. Yeah, it does have a little bit of NPR vibe to
it, but in a good way. Does
it kind of Oh, yeah. No, no, but
in like a smoky cigar kind of green visor kind of way. So it's
like, imagine you dim the lights and there's one naked ball now a
desk lamp with one of those flexible necks. And that Dave's
got his green visor on his in front of his monitor. And he's
like, Well, let me tell you about the namespace.
We've got a we've got a donation from there it is listed in Berg.
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He did he was he was
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Dave. I'm gonna read it to you. I'm gonna read it. I'm gonna
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He was not angry in his texted me.
He says I can beat the Israeli accent. Yes, I doubt him. I can
be distracted but I will never forget to boost if you don't see
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This is not Israeli but this is French.
I don't know what that was is yeah, that's pay Panthers. My
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it won't be a surprise. And so of course you see the bunks
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Phoebe heard him too. And, and so I went without my glasses,
which I promised her. I peeked through not the window itself,
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No, no, that's crap. So when I say Nano, I actually am using
nano but when I when I run it, what I type is Pico.
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you use do you use pine pie so
you've never used pine no pine the email client
have never used pine I've used mud I've never use pine
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with the PICO editor by default I think
I will make standard and I'll do this till the day I die. Is pico
dash W or no for no word wrap like that. It's just it is
ingrained in my finger muscles that that's that's all I can do.
Whereas I always start everything up with Word Wrap
with Word Wrap yeah I do yeah. Well wasn't pine was pine not
email was was pine messing it
up. That said pine comes with Pico. I guess it is it may be as
the editor for for even for pine email.
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thought pine was email. feel dumb now?
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it's not that important.
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Arif Tov means good evening. Almost like a missive. I can
find this because it did it go through the email.
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Oh, but when when was it sent? I
guess is my question. I can copy and paste it into single chat
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now here's what he says is Good evening, Roy. Meet Mitch. That's
exactly what it says. But is that Oh, hello? Of course not. I
have no idea what it says. My Hebrew is extremely limited.
Is it read Arif?
Arif Tov is good evening that I actually know.
Okay, let's just do this was Google Translate.
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Hebrew? Yeah, it works. Okay. What is good evening to Roy in
his bed. Yeah, it was close.
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We just pasted all those squigglies into translate and it
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What was what was the amount again? Dave?
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Called the internet. Yeah, you know, iron Rand days February 2.
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That's $125 120 Fest. That's
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It's just about podcasting. 2.0
It says on the front it says asked me about podcasting. 2.0
on the back it says boost me bitch I'm telling you this.
That's that's how we should
you almost let that out of the bag. I'm glad you pulled it
back.
That was that was actually gone. That was actually an accident.
Okay, I'll tell you what happened. This is very bad. I
spit on my screen when I said boosting. Like Like, just rub
that off with my finger. That screen. It is a touchscreen.
Yes.
Yeah. You saved that one from disaster. Because that's for
episode 100.
Hey, it's coming up two more episodes. 100 It's gonna be fun.
What are we doing for our one?
record something that's very innocuous and innocent. To
counteract with the math jingle?
Yeah, yeah. Okay, good. Listen, the introduction at Griffith or
something? Yes. Dave, Jennifer informed informed me earlier
that we, you know, it was it's terrible that episode 100 is not
the episode we're doing our podcast movement when we've
we've hit the off by one problem.
Right. We couldn't Well, Oh, well.
It could have been could have been great. Yeah.
And we're just gonna it's just gonna be you and me. Right? No
guests. We're not We're not by anyone. weaselly an interaction.
Okay, now they can stay in the hall.
Exactly. Now, we should have like monitors outside in the
hall. So I can sit there and listen to us. The overflow room
overflow room. All right. Do we have anything else? Jennifer?
Thank you so much for of course, for being here. Thank you for
offering your help with the hackathon. Thank you for
becoming the dame of the pink database. And but just thank you
for being a really super nice person. And and always jumping
in and your your good energy, real good energy. We really
appreciate that.
Thank you,
Dave. A little less good energy, but I do love you brother. No,
no don't hit me with everybody that's it boosts a lot. You
helped them Jennifer out as well. We'll see you next time at
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