Adam curry, John C. Dvorak. It is Sunday June 14. Happy
birthday to super agent Keith Hey, it's time once again for
your gizmo nation audio publication. This is no agenda
coming to you from the crappiest bandwidth in the Bay Area.
Located in Gitmo nation West. I'm Adam curry.
And from get bow nation Pacific Northwest, and powered by
oatmeal, I might add on Jhansi before I was killed.
I am powered by oatmeal as well.
So how do you prepare your oatmeal?
There was very little in the Casa at the moment. So here's I
prepared it with water because then that's all I had.
And methodology isn't unusual. It's not bad. It's
not bad. And I since I had no sugar, no brown sugar, no maple
syrup. I had some blueberries so I infested it with blueberries
and actually was okay it kind of tasted like blueberries with
sawdust.
Do you normally make it with milk and make more of a mush?
Yeah, I
do like to make more of a mush and I I like a little bit of
brown sugar or it kind of depends on the mood. I might try
maple syrup or but only if it's really good maple syrup.
So I had my oatmeal. Whoo I also have I did I did the boiling
water method. I sometimes make it with milk too. But it makes a
different product when you Oh totally. Yeah, totally. But I
had birch syrup.
Mm hmm. So that's it's a
wild from Alaska.
But it's how different does it taste for maple syrup?
Don't take anything the same. What is it?
Can you try and describe it?
Well if anyone's ever had birch beer obvious you can taste that
did Thomas Kemper mix it up here in the Pacific Northwest and
they have birch beer which has it's a little generally milder
and less a concentrated than maple syrup. It doesn't have the
maple syrup has a unique I mean an absolutely amazing flavour
profile that is just all encompassing is one of the
greatest sugars yes ever
and of course if it's from Vermont that is really the best
well you know I find I found good Canadian and stuff and
elsewhere but Vermont does have a good
a good a good blend.
They go out of the way to make good maple syrup or whatever.
Anyway the point is, is that the birch syrup is nothing like it
in terms of its flavour profile. But it's an it's a nice change
of pace. It's like you know bite if you have like that. No
Polly's sugar that stuff that comes from the the the the dead
plant that makes tequila that
go that like cactus thing. Is that it? Yeah, it's
kind of a cactus thing. I can't think of the name of it for some
reason. Agave. Ah, yes. So they make the most of the tequila
companies take they make you know, sugar from the from the
agave plant that makes the tequila and they sometimes
bottle the sugar straight and you can buy that now because
it's supposed to have all these health benefits. And that's
actually quite quite tasty too. But it doesn't is a the mildest
of the three. Anyway, you know the your food I'm sorry. It's in
the morning caught we need a cough button with Leo's got one
on his rig. Yeah, I know
Leo's cool I was gonna say the stuff the loft that I hope to
move into on Monday is in the same building that houses the
company that is the first company to legally distribute
absent in the US.
Oh. So this absent that they're distributing most of it's not
very good.
I don't know I'm I'm not a drinker, as you know, so I don't
I think I've tasted it once or twice, but I'm not really like
woowoo can't wait.
So we have a stream live for IRC users, but you can go to a
directly with no agenda. chat.com Yeah, I'm
just trying to I'm just trying to log into IRC dot zero
node.net And I try to hit the no agenda channel and it says if
you're at a conference and other people are having trouble
connecting please mention it to staff. That's wonderful. What's
going on?
Well, I mean, if you go straight to the website that there's a
there's a live web client that runs and it's just it looks like
it works fine. In fact, I'm gonna send a message Hello.
Yeah, so you clearly didn't see my Hello because I guess I'm
loving it does doesn't matter I can't do the web client now
because right you'll kill this. Your everything. Yeah. And the
worst part if I if I can just send you this link John because
it will not open for me every other you know, I have to open
all of my My webpages before the show on this crappy bandwidth
but the story looks so fascinating if you could hold on
a second. You could just open that because the title of the
story which I'm just dying to hear about, and of course
totally fits under the category of and now back to real man
Sue's over 55 hour erection and I'm thinking this is a phone
ringing
it was okay you're getting phone calls. Hey, that was calling me
on the phone. Reminded me I can unhook my phone. So let's see we
got man stews over 55 hour erection. Former prison inmate
Tao Would ya doula is suing a nurse in the United States
claiming that he suffered an erection that lasted 55 hours as
a side effect of medication he had been given yet do law 43
said he had to wait more than two days before being taken from
the New York prison to a hospital to hospital to
hospitals in strict British story, as we would say to the
hospital for treatment reported in New York Post on Monday.
According to media reports. Yeah. doula said that his daily
dosage of antipsychotic medication was incorrect must
have been an experience for him was increased by 25% by the
nurse Judith Lovelace. Oh, yeah.
Like Linda Linda. Linda sister, now we're talking.
And as a side effect, he had persistently had a persistent
and painful erection. Just left him in irreparably injured.
So, okay, well, I was thinking, you know, this would be some
kind of Cialis or Viagra story, because they always have that
tagline. At the end of the commercials. If you experienced
an erection for more than four hours, contact your doctor
immediately.
And as the joke goes, if I get an erection for more than four
hours, I'm calling everybody or
that's not a problem you need to call your doctor for that's a
scheduling problem.
And there's a bunch of gags over that line. Which reminds me I
gotta get some more clips of these. There's a new drug
reminds me we gotta get some more funny material. Is that
what you were gonna say?
More Funny material? We're short.
Speaking of short, a great. And of course, all of these links
are faithfully put into the show notes that no agenda.me veoh.com
I'm sure you saw the all the conferences where you had sir
cosy and Obama sitting together in end and discussing things
together. I guess it was Normandy that we talked about it
last week. But there's this picture. And it's at one who
it's from Times Online. And I'm going to Skype this to you
because if you haven't seen it, it's just hilarious. Of course,
we always harp on and you know, both of us being over six feet
tall. We're allowed to harp on the vertically challenged.
You'll see profile picture at the podium of President Obama
standing with his what does he do like, guys? Like six? Three?
I think so. Six, two, and then you see Sarkozy, who was you
know, for fortnight ending on apple crate? Do you see it?
Yeah, I love it. It says,
ah, somebody shut that picture. Just the point of just to
ridicule
him. Yeah. And rightfully so.
Did you never have that you look at that he even have that podium
has got like these barriers. So you can't see it. So you can't
see it. Yeah, so somebody went to the way
they even use it. They even use the N word in the article. I
love that. The N word of course, being Napoleon.
And then they got a cartoon of him standing.
What's the cartoon? Oh, no, there's
a picture at the bottom of him of all standing flat footed.
And, you know, with his lovely wife, she must be 511 No,
she looks almost violent. She's probably I know she's wearing
she wears flats. She doesn't really really wear heels. So she
looks about she's six one dude.
I don't think so because he's already towering over her knees,
standing in
the background, but look at Sarco and look at the lovely,
lovely Carla Bruni.
Yeah, she's like a foot taller than Well, she's about five
inches taller than Sarkozy
and her knees are bent.
She's hot and she's on her knees.
Yeah, it was. I pick up a copy of The Wall Street Journal
weekend yesterday. And he's actually I was looking for a
story about the New York Stock Exchange. I don't know if you
follow that. But on Friday the thing glitched at the opening
which I found highly suspect you know, there was I flipped on
CNBC and they're all like, wow, you can tell that they're all
excited something horrible is amiss. Something's going on. And
you know these things with computer glitches, particularly
when it comes to trading systems. I've just always got to
put My little question marks around it. And you know, there
was you didn't follow that obviously. No, no I, I, whenever
that slips through it. Whenever that happens I'm like, Okay, I'm
sure just a just a computer glitch, nothing to see here. But
sorry, I forgot to hit the coff button. In the second part of
the w one section, they have a whole article about actually
titled divided we stand and sub subhead, what would California
look like broken in three or a republic of New England, with
the federal government reaching for evermore power redrawing the
map is enticing, says Paul strobe Starobin. And it's about
something that, you know, I've certainly been following. We've
discussed from time to time that there are many, many states
within the union that have movements of people who are
thinking about breaking off from from the entire union.
Yeah, well, or we're doing other things like the Northern
California from about, I don't know what area it gets, maybe
north of Redding, to most of southern Oregon wants to become
the state of Jefferson.
They have to have a name for it. But they have a name for it. The
state of
Jefferson. Yeah. And in fact, when you drive up there, when
you drive through that area, you'll see signage all over the
place and real into the state of Jefferson and work and it's a
big picture of Jefferson, the profile of Thomas Jefferson.
Really? Yeah, Jefferson, and they said, but they tend to be
they tend to be slightly right wing.
You think? You know, yes, economically, logic suggests a
natural multilingual combination between greater San Diego and
Mexico's northern Baia, and to the Pacific North between
Seattle and Vancouver, in a mega region already dubbed Cascadia
Oh, Cascadia that's a good one. Yeah.
So I don't know it seems like something really is happening
they want us in the Wall Street Journal. You go okay, I'm pay
attention to this.
There's been a you know, that area I have to I mean, there is
a similarity between this northern part of California and
Southern Oregon. And then there is probably more of a connection
between Portland and then that southern part of Washington
State in fact, maybe the whole coast but when you get to
Seattle, Bellingham Redmond, Bellevue that Puget Sound area
from Seattle up to Vancouver that's there is a similarity in
a lot of different ways a little Vancouver and Seattle being so
close to each other the present some sort of Metropolitan issue
I think but whatever.
Now do you think that that this is actually we
did a lot of these people in BC have always considered
themselves you know, more part of the United States than they
do Canada?
Do you think that this actually could could happen I mean, I'm
How about how about Texas, Texas is always kind of been
the big talkers. I realised that Texas is a bunch of blowhard
it's John at DeVore ak.org Send your your ammo to him. I don't
know man, I you know, I did. There's a lot of people who are
getting pretty pissed off and it's it's a movement that's
bubbling under but in fact, last night I was cruising through I
actually spent some time trying to watch some television and I
have Comcast basic cable at this place. So no premium channels.
So you it's basically every single channel is a commercial,
it's unreal, you never hit programming for some reason. And
on one of the I guess the high numbers 78 Which is why there's
got to be some local access. They had architects,
architectural engineers for 911 truth and they had like a whole
hour programme. It was amazing to see that that was that was on
and that's there is some stuff creeping through John and
there's a lot of dissent and a lot of dissatisfaction.
So we have my son came up with a good phrase that we can use to
generate income and sell T shirts maybe or hang out and
save America listen to no agenda I don't know the bumper sticker
it but first of all, why only America we have tonnes of
producers and listeners from around the
around the globe who have an American needs to be saved.
Yeah, the whole world needs to be saved.
Well help save the world Dennis said they were damaged sound
like an environmental movement?
Yeah, like can we just do like nuke the gay whales listen to no
agenda that will entice me more to listen. So you have the real
news thing. Yeah. Well, no second. Why? Yes, I do, John.
And now back to real.
Show. Did you know that Simon Cowell was one of the original
producers of Teletubbies?
No, I did not know that. Did we sure everyone knows who the
Teletubbies are. I guess all right. Yeah.
No, they had to Teletubbies on the United States. That became a
big controversy when one of the roll Yeah,
because it was gay. It wasn't a governor or senator who said
Pinky Winky was gay.
So one of them was, by the way, like Tinky Winky is gay.
Big deal. Thank you. I did.
So this good came up in a conversation yesterday that I
was having turns out that there's this there was a follow
up to the tongue Teletubby show which you can look at on YouTube
called boo ba Have you ever seen or heard of this?
No. And I can't look at it. Now for obvious bandwidth reasons.
Boo. Bah. Can you spell it?
B O. H? dash B H Okay. Boo. Bah, bah, bah, bah. And it's in its
teletype. He's looking guys only they look. They have like not to
be crude or rude. You can cover your ears if you don't want to
anybody want to hear this? It looks like they have dickheads
that actually come out. Popped by their bodies like indignant.
gusting over very well
clearly not circumcised.
Law or something. But anyway, yeah, it's only news. Well, I
want everyone to go check it out.
What how does Simon Cowell turn in to relate to that?
I just started throw his name into it have some real news. We
all know whether Simon Cowell had anything to do with boo bah.
But we know that the that some of the other Teletubbies people
do that's all we know.
Oh, okay. I got you. We never really and that's I think
because of our our no agenda schedule on Thursdays and
Sundays we never really got into the European Parliament
elections are touched on it briefly that of course labour
did very, very poorly Gordon Brown's party if we look at
Gitmo, Gitmo, nation east and boy, I can't wait to get all of
my Gitmo nation East publications in so I can try to
continue with the the gizmo nation each flavour on the show.
But interestingly, the UK IP The Independent Party did quite
well. And this is of course so what's his name? Neil Farraj? Is
that his name? The guy whose I have no idea Yeah, that's the
guy who's always standing up and doing great speeches in European
Parliament and getting giving everybody shit. I'm pretty happy
about that. And now it seems According to The Telegraph, that
a new Commons that's I guess they're Hill vote could prove
explosive and would be seized on by the Tories and the UK IP who
made big gains in the recent European elections to actually
really have to make a vote on the Lisbon Treaty in the United
Kingdom. Which, as you know, if you listen to this show, they
just kind of rammed through Parliament. There was some some
cool guy who who did sue the, the the Labour government trying
to stop the ratification of it. But it's, it's a good article,
and of course, that'll be in the show notes. And I guess that
they're using some legal recourse now to actually put
that to a vote which Wow, that could really disrupt a lot of
the a lot of the plans that these guys have.
Yeah, you think so, okay, they'll find some other way to
bypass it.
We'll see you know, Ireland still has you know, they're
still trying to force the the second vote for the Irish and
this thing, this thing is so messed up. We become we just
become so desensitised and just kind of except Except health is
bullshit that they fall on us. Unreal.
So I see Jeff Smith has been twit twittered me that there was
some guy who get back to that.
What was the CNN fail?
No, CNN feel I can't, you know, the CNN feels got something to
do with the fact that their coverage of the Iranian
elections was crap. And
I don't get the big deal. It seemed I did see this past, you
know, the the news channels like oh, oh, it's clearly it's been a
big Sham. And Ahmadinejad wins by you know, a 50% margin. Like
who cares? Who cares?
Chai you're finally getting back into becoming anti American.
That's Yes, I'm fine American who doesn't give a crap neither
one of us will be able to do the show solo.
We got a practice from one of us gets to to the head and the gun
in the left hand, John, you know, it's Sciacca
way and but yeah, and then such. Jeff Smith says, Have you seen
the time travel guy story man travels in time from 2036 to
visit his mother?
No. Have you seen the story?
Well, it's actually turns out to be I clicked on it. And it turns
out to be a adventure of being a kind of a lady link or something
that happened on Coast to Coast with George Noriega. That crazy
rate, that's just something you should be listening to, you
should listen to it. Listen,
I do listen to it from time to time, but rarely ever live. You
know, sometimes you have to pay for it to get access to the
podcast or whatever says, you know, sometimes people upload
some story to the drop, which I find pretty, pretty good
editorial process. So it's only like four hours long, isn't it?
It's was it is a daily you know, talk show. It's one of the
oldest oldest ones ever? Yeah, they read a lot of three or
something like,
yeah, got a lot of good, Alien UFO stories. And, yeah, you
know, I like it. It's good show. But anyway, so the guy time
travels to visit his
mom, and I gotta link to it. But it's like this, it sends me to
this John tight or times, under, which is under John tight
tor.com, which is one of the sites that apparently scrolls
down to China. And as always, it's missing is the cat running
back and forth, and back and forth across the screen. I
couldn't find it on here if I wanted to. So nevermind,
it just going back to, to either one of us could do the show
solo, can we just make a pact? That should either one of us be
killed by the government? That you know, the other one just
goes on the show? And then you know, says, Well, you know, so
in my case would be well, we're very sorry to report that. You
know, John has been suicided by the government, and then just
go. And now back to real. And then just do some story about a
guy got his penis caught in the door and just continue the show.
Yeah, well, that's pretty much what we're doing now.
Exactly. Just want to make sure we agree on that.
So I mentioned the commencement at Evergreen State College.
Oh, this is for your son. Yeah. Which one? John? J, J, as I call
it, J J, I call them J i column J. J
is toward to that. But anyway, so this is actually one of the
greatest entertainment values that you could have in your
lifetime. And I would recommend next year people they find that
whenever greens doing their commencement, you have to go to
it. Because then I'll have some photos posted. And I think
you should explain what commencement is for
commencements where
you get your degree, your bachelors of whatever it is, or
your PhD or whatever, whatever.
Whatever thing he did, you went,
you got a degree. But is it done? You know, it's just a bit
commencement. It's very common occurrence
in America. In America, it's very common. It's a ceremony
that is completely uncommon outside the borders,
so they don't give diplomas to people that go to Cambridge.
Not like but the commence the commencement outside of Gitmo
nation West is different, you know,
yeah. Tell me I'd be interested. I've never been to one. I don't
think
there's caps and gowns, yet maybe Cambridge but you know,
not in Germany. You know, not in the Netherlands. In fact, it's
really quite boring. You know, you sit in like an owl. Ah, that
would that is? Is that a correct English word? And Hola. No, au
LA.
No, never.
So, you know, like, a gathering room. You know, it's not like
the cool thing out on the grass with the sun shining, and
everyone's there, and they're all dressed up and we throw our
caps and our caps in the air is none of that. I mean, that's.
I think the Navy Academy does that.
With a tassel on the other side. And you know, you've got your
valedictorian speeches. No, I don't think it's like that
outside of the United States. We're very, very culturally
embedded in tradition here. So anyway, all right. I'm sorry. I,
you know, I'm
finding it hard to believe. And I'll tell you why. This is not
something that we dream up. It sounds like it came from England
or France or someplace else, because there's too much. It's
too much costumes.
I don't know, man. We're pretty good. And when it comes to
costumes and uniforms in this country.
So anyway, but the joke of it is, is that evergreen because
it's kind of a free spirit school, a beast, everyone
dressed it has a green cap and gown. About 10% of the people
dress up in their own outfits. Okay, so there's a guy in a
penguin costume. There's women that are dolled up like they
just you know when they've dubbed one I'm Carmen Sandiego.
wearing white sundress and a big red hat. Girl in all just a just
a brightest red tight fitting dress imaginable
and what was your son wearing?
He was wearing a regular cap and gown. They had up to him and his
pal. They had a million ideas, they're going to do this or
we're going to just stand up and go seek Heil two one. No way.
They never got it. They couldn't manage it. Percy's been awesome.
They did have good just one guy. This one character is one of the
speakers who went his whole speech was about Obama and how
we It wasn't about we have to do something for our country. We
have to do this. No, we have to do it for Obama. So we have to
help Obama. So Obama is the greatest thing that's ever
happened and we must help help him. He needs help. So go forth,
go forth, and help Obama help Obama.
Did you videotape any of this? That is so YouTube worthy.
I wish I had that. Oh, the Obama one I think it's I think they
did tape it. So I think it's it's gettable. Oh, that's there
was some there was the main here's where the interesting
thing, the guy who heads the school or one of the
Chancellor's. And I was just kind of stunned by this. He's he
not just the guy who was the keynote Commencement speaker,
whatever you want to call them. Who was this guy named? Wh yt,
who bills himself as a corporate poet. And he of course, he had
no poetry to read except, you know. None, actually. Right. And
he, he was introduced as having a degree from some weird school
never heard of, Zhu ology, which of course, is a mispronunciation
of the word zoology. Yeah, and there's not that many O's in the
word to be pronounced zoology and geology would be the study
of zoos.
So which I think you and I have a degree in?
Do we probably we are the zoo. We are the zoo. ologists. So
this is done by them. I'm mumbling to myself as I'm
walking because I have to take that ticket. Just probably 500
photos with zoo ology. I mean, so then the guy comes out his
white character? And he says, Yes, I have a degree in marine
zoo ology.
Oh, no. And I'm thinking you're screwed up going. See, Kyle.
What are you talking about? It's like nobody that actually has
the degree. Would you
ever say that? Yeah, of course. Well, it's very interesting,
because I was watched. I watched the Jon Stewart show. Gosh, for
someone who doesn't watch television, I watch a lot this
week. I watched the Jon Stewart show maybe Thursday, I'm gonna
say and it was quite disappointing. It was really not
a good show. I can't put my finger on it. Why? But more
interestingly, right after the Jon Stewart show, of course,
Stephen Colbert comes on. And I didn't know this, but apparently
he is with the troops in Iraq.
Yeah, he was doing reports from there. And he had his
head shaved. And I thought at first it was like some kind of
chroma key joke and like, what is going on with his hair like,
oh, shit, he actually said shaved it. But he had the deputy
prime minister of Iraq on the show. And of course, the
audience is all fine. Young servicemen and women. And guess
what this guy studied. He studied probability. And he said
it zoo ology, and I'm gonna sit there go like, No way, dude, you
cannot sit there and say you're a zoo ologists? Because of
course, he's not or he's full of it. Otherwise, he would have
said zoologist. Well, maybe she Yeah. And then, of course, the
the punch line that Colbert had was, you know, well, how can you
be it was like, it was like a marine zoologist, in fact, and,
and the guy who will how many? How much? How much
practicability does that have in in Iraq in the desert? And the
guy said, Well, of course, that's why I studied probability
because I knew I'd really score well, because the probability of
applying my knowledge in Iraq is zero. But I just found that
interesting that he pulled out the zoo ology, instead of
zoology
ology. So I know, usually, but University California, you would
get berated publicly for saying zoo ology, until you got it
through your head that it's pronounced zoology. So I'm
looking at a photo here, by the way, just change the topic back
to commencement ceremonies at the University of Heidelberg as
a matter of fact, commencement ceremony and curiously, they're
all wearing caps and gowns and big red sashes.
Maybe I should not have dropped out of my freshman year then I
would have known better.
And there's more photos from from Europe.
But they call it graduation there. I guess that's the big
difference not commencement, and I don't think the the speeches
are as entertaining. I certainly have not heard of anyone doing a
commencement speech in Germany and going seek higher Oh, but I
would. I'm sure they used to. It's been a while John's been a
while.
They seem to have the same cap and gown in these German
universities I'm looking at but they all had the thing that's
different instead of having, like, for example, he's had all
this green stuff at that evergreen. The woods they're
called greenies. Is they they have different coloured sashes
and the sashes are quite colourful. There's I'm looking
at some blue ones here. I might mention something else since
I've just been off that topic completely. There's a there were
a couple of furries. Are you familiar with these people?
In Second Life? I'm familiar with the term furries they're
the people who have cat like fur and pretty much only like to
have virtual sex with other furries.
Yes, well, there's real furries in the real world. And a couple
of them were dressed up as such at the commencement one was
dressed up as a panda bear. And he received his degree and his
girlfriend was dressed up as a bunny. And she said I have some
great I have actually a portrait of the two of them because they
as they came out, I had moved myself into position to get some
good shots. And they set a post so you know, I've been I've been
trying to capture them the whole time. A lot of people dressed in
drag it is
this a just staying with furries for a moment? Is this an actual
lifestyle? That people yes, she was
getting to? Yes, it's a lifestyle. And the key to it is
it's a sexual cult. When you call it a cult, and the idea is
is that you find your inner I had that I didn't know about
this either. But I get the lectures, you find your inner
animal, what it might be and forgive your bunny for example,
that means you like to screw a lot. And
you'd like to get eaten. Sorry, no, no, no. rimshot Yeah,
thanks.
We need the rim shots. So you find your inner animal and then
you wet you then you dress like them you become that animal and
you only have sex as a furry so these people apparently have sex
all dressed up in these costumes.
Like that seems so these costumes have trapped doors and
stuff
I have no I have not I didn't go that far too into it. There's
obviously there's some way of doing it. Whatever the case is
that
their clubs where you live furries go and and hook up
there are there are they have? I don't know if they have
nightclubs or places. Yeah, I'm sure there's something like
that. Because apparently, I was told that one of the schools
they had there's a there's a term that you can use. I can't
remember the name of it. But it had to do with one of the
schools they
arranged it without the word.
It was was it had to do with of isolating the Furies within an
institution and then and then apparently some school put them
all in some one group says yeah, you guys can have your own club
and your own room and they find out who all the furries really
were. Then they just kicked them out of the school.
Come to the Club kids.
It was almost like one of those scams where they find the
criminals and they can't get them to show up for anything.
Yeah, they give Yeah.
Like Dateline NBC one of those scams.
Yeah, here's you. You just won the lottery. Just meet us.
You're on your collect your money.
Yeah. Where are white rose.
So, anyway, the Furies so I didn't know anything about the
furries until I because I just thought these guys are just
dressing up. I didn't know
they existed. For real. I thought it was just a second
life kind of, you know, sexual fantasy thing that for sure. But
I didn't know that they actually existed in real life. It makes
sense, I guess. Yeah. You know, when I when I first saw the
loft, which has, gosh, the ceilings must be could be like
18 feet, maybe even more or less the ceiling height? Sounds about
right. And it has, you know, 18 feet, pretty common. Yeah. And
it has, you know, exposed pipes and stuff. What is the first
thing when you're standing as a guy, the first thing you think
and uh, guys, I want you to listen and maybe some gals out
there too. For the for that are listening to the show. When you
have this, you know, aloft by the way, by itself, by
definition has something sexual to it. I'm not quite sure what
it is. But it's a sexy type of thing. And I've never lived in a
loft and I've never even thought I would enjoy the idea and I'm
kind of getting into it. And when you have an 18 foot ceiling
and you see these these pipes that are exposed what is the
first thing as a guy you think of
by looking at tall ceiling and the pipes exposed? Yeah,
I mean, because you're thinking what could I finish it who's
gonna dust that? Well, that's you now go into guy mode. What
would you think of hanging from those from those pipes? Booker's
no a sec swing? Six. I've always wondered who has one of those
sex wings. I
don't like blades. You can put one in your loft and Exactly.
Now I know that it's for loft people.
It's probably going to break the pipe.
I'm going to get one just to see what it looks like.
But a sec swing. Yeah, I've always One rabbit figure, you'll
probably get them on the net. No, no, of
course you can get them on the net. They used to be in the back
of the magazines. No, of course you can. I'm sorry.
I have the bandwidth to go look up six swings, high quality sex
switch and get a sex swing at healthy and active.com for $69
Well,
of course suasana dollars that makes so much sense.
Right 69 bucks I get it. Bada bing bungee six wing
links dude send me the links all union union that's an up and
down this X Wing instead of a back and forth sex wing. That's
interesting. Huh?
Well, this would do I think they went there's a guy here. This is
six wings highlighted on the website. Ken's twisted
mind.com.com. Divorce. Six.
I gotta go. I'm sorry. I started this. I gotta get you out of it.
Quick. John, surely you are familiar with Zyprexa?
No, I'm not familiar with zoonotic?
Oh, I've heard about that for a long time. It's a it's an anti
dementia drug.
an anti them an anti dimension drug dementia. I think an anti
dementia dementia, I should say dementia. Okay, thank you. How
you spell it. As I mentioned advertised on television. It has
so many side effects that it shows you take the pill, you
might as well shoot yourself. Well,
you might as well because Eli Lilly and CO urge doctors to
prescribe Zyprexa for elderly patients with dementia. Even
though the drugmaker at the time had evidence, the medicine did
not work for such patients. I just love it when these guys do
this crap.
It doesn't work.
Anyway, take it anyway. Anyway.
Fixed officials Zyprexa site bipolar disorder and
schizophrenia can be treated with Zyprexa
the word bipolar who made that shit up that's not an actual
medical condition. Is it? That's just like a marketing term?
Please tell me.
No it's it's it's it's it's it is it's manic depressive, used
to be called manic depressive. They changed the term to bipolar
about 15 years. My point
as Case in point bipolar is I mean, if
you've ever known any bipolar people, you know that it's a
real it's a real illness,
manic depression. Is that a chemical? I mean, I understand
manic depression is that a and what is difference between
depression and manic depression? That means your mania as you
go, but you flip back and forth, you're depressed. And then you
go crazy high energy and you're really you know, knock yourself
out and you're happier as a clam. Then you go back to
depression, it's like a huge mood swings that are you know,
everybody has mood swings. Sure. But these are so massive that
they go way off on one side and then way down in the other just
near suicidal and can happen like every day.
And does it really have to be near suicidal for it to be
actual bipolarism?
I don't know.
I like Bipolar. Bipolar is a much better description of what
it is. But it's still a marketing term. I don't care
what you say.
Now you got a you run into these people and it's like, wow, they
flip just doesn't make any sense.
Is it? Is it a chemical imbalance? If it's a disease,
then there's some explanation.
I think it's a chemical imbalance. That's why I think
that drugs usually help people and a lot of people just take
lithium. That seems to stop a lot of it.
Because that's the same type of stuff that's in batteries.
It's the same element of the periodic table if that's what
you're wondering, I wouldn't think sucking on a battery is
going to do you much good. Oh, damn. But no, no, there's a lot
of areas of the country there's a lot of natural lithium and
this like Florida fluoridation, it the natural lithium in the
water, they found that there's a low rate of mental illness and
some of these places. And so then they started working with
lithium, it turns out that lithium stabilises a lot of
people that would otherwise be crazy.
Well, anyway, regulators required Eli Lilly and other
anti psychotic drug makers in 2005. To warn that the products
pose an increased risk to elderly patients with dementia
create reason to prescribe it. In this document, which you can
find a course link in the show notes shows the health dangers
and marketing a drug for an unapproved use which is called
the off label promotion. By definition, off label means pay
attention people, there is no clear evidence that the benefits
of a drug outweigh the risks. And an off label promotion I
guess is illegal.
Yeah, that's where they go out and they do the sales guys pull
that crap. Right. So I'm in fact I'm looking at the Zyprexa site
here which is obviously owned by the drug company, Eli Lilly.
And what a fine what a fine name does it sound kind of like happy
and purple, Eli Lilly, we make
like there's a big box text here it says elderly people with
psychosis related to dementia, a brain disorder that lessens the
ability to remember think and reason are at increased risk of
death when taking certain mental illness or mental health
medicines such as eye prexy compared with a sugar pill.
Zyprexa is not approved for these patients. That's an Xbox
text.
Zyprexa does $4.7 billion in sales, it was their best drug.
Anti psychotics, as a group in the United States $14.6 billion
industry. We got a lot of fucked up people.
Yeah, well, they're probably more fucked up from the drugs,
please. I've seen it happen. And that's Ritalin, that shit they
give to kids, which parents just like pop pop that in the kid's
mouth was like, it's like m&ms. And that stuff is so
destructive. It's so bad. Give your kid some chamomile tea, and
tie him down to the chair with a belt.
We've been following watch boo BA
from their SEC swing. We've been following Baxter International,
which of course is a specialty drug maker indirectly owned by
the US government. Now we've discussed that on the show
before. They're a part of a larger company, which
exclusively has governmental contracts. This is the company
that accidentally bypassed biohazard level three security
and somehow was able to mix up regular old seasonal flu vaccine
with the bird flu and distributed it to their 18
European countries. And apparently it never got into the
into the doctor's office, but who the hell knows. They are, of
course, at this moment in time in full production of the swine
flu vaccine. They say, Hey, we're in full full scale
production of a swine flu which by the way in Europe is called
the Mexican flu. I want to make that very clear. They do not
call it if you say swine flu in. In Europe, people go Huh, what
are you talking about Mexican flu. Oh, I understand what
you're talking about. And it will be commercially available
in July. The company made his announcement Friday, one day
after the World Health Organisation declared swine flu
a global pandemic. Oops, missed that one. They raise it to level
35 Or whatever it is now. Baxter said its patented technology
cuts in half the usual time it takes to develop a vaccine to
about 13 weeks instead of 26.
And it's because they're obviously just a sloppy job.
One thing worth pointing out that specialty drugmaker Baxter
International. It's headquartered in Illinois.
Yeah, I think we'd you did that before. I just
have to keep pointing it out. The centre of the global mafia
that runs our country. Yeah, UFOs exist. I believe in them.
So, so I'm watching it with C span or CNN or Charlie Rose or,
or I don't know who is just one of these shows where you're
talking to people. All right. So they had this woman on the head
of the World Health Organisation, Margaret Margaret
Chan. Is she ever uniform on? She's from China? And she seems
like a dimwit.
Did you have a uniform on? No, she
would know she didn't. She was just wearing, you know, a
blazer. So he my underwear? Sure. She just seemed, you know,
I don't know if anybody watched the older versions of Mad TV,
but she reminded me a little bit of Miss swan. And I don't recall
if anyone out there who knows, you'll know exactly what I'm
talking about. But she just seems like a dummy. I mean, I
just thought, why is this woman running things and she's going
on with all these excuses. And, you know, maybe it's maybe she's
a genius, but she doesn't speak very good English, which sounds
like She sounds like she speaks good English. There's just not
right. But I was not pressed.
Okay. And was there any any new information or was this harsh?
He's just going on and on about how people don't understand what
a pandemic is,
oh, yeah, this this is their whole kind of backpedalling
theme
the new meme is no pandemic is in every country in the world
that does this it's a pandemic so this all panic and run around
in a circle with the arms waving in the air screaming
right well, that will the mean is you know, you probably won't
die from the pandemic but because it because the virus
propagates so quick quickly or as unpredictable, they have some
really weird set of metrics that determines what a pandemic is an
ergo, for the first time in 45 years, they have actually raised
the threat level to what is it six or seven? And yeah, and we
and we have a pandemic, it's like, you know,
well, she did hinted one thing in this interview that I did I
tried to get a clip of it. I don't know why I didn't, but
maybe I shot it out. But it was a commencement
doing see, Kyle's
See, Kyle, we must help Obama. She will she made mention that
there was a fear. Okay, I just said this subtly, but it was
like, she's worried the worry is the following. Yeah. Okay. This
thing is not a big deal. Nobody's really dropping like
flies. We don't really know what happened in Mexico that killed
us, you know, 15 in the one place, it could have been
something else. She says the problem is, and I think there
may be some somebody but it was, of course, whoever was
interviewing her didn't do any follow up. She says, because
it's a talk show. She says they're right, why should they
be talking? So she says that we don't want to have the promise h
one, end five or h five and one that the bird flu. And this
thing h one and one are both floating around at the same
time? And what we don't want is these two to bump into each
other. Yeah. And create, you know, something that we really
have a problem with? Well,
just you don't have to worry about that. Because Baxter does
it for you. Isn't that what they're hired to do? Don't worry
about it back. She was doing it already Baxter's on the case,
why worry? It's already taken care of? Well, you know, and can
you imagine if you could have meetings would you have if
you're a corporate guy, you're in the board and say, Look, our
vaccine sales are up this year. But what can we do?
We keep waiting to double that we know
how to exactly do we sell?
No, no. Here's how do we move the needle on our stock people
that that's that's how it goes? Come on people. I'm the CEO of
Baxter International. How do we move the needle on our stock?
Come on, everyone's got options. We got to get this thing moving
there. But your options are about to vest. So what can we do
here? Mm hmm. I don't think they actually have those meetings.
But it's in the DNA of the company. For sure, yeah. No,
there's a lot of that DNA related decision making, which I
agree. I mean, sometimes they might have a meeting like that.
But it seems unlikely because they need someone to write a
memo down, you'd be in jail. But generally speaking, it's like
when people say, Well, you know, you're, you work for a news
organisation that's owned by NBC, which is owned by General
Electric. How can we not do any stories about the Detroit
failure of a jet engine as made by General Electric and you run
it on the news? Well, we haven't really found such a thing it has
anyone ever told you not to do us negative story in General
Electric? No, no, absolutely not. No one has ever ever, ever
said to do not to do a negative story in General Electric, which
I believe would be the truth. No, but nobody in their right
mind would do it. Oh,
and that brings me to an email from Chris Clark. Just following
up on last on the last no agenda, where we're talking
about Taylor Swift. And what were the connections for Taylor
Swift, the fine Country and Western artists who noodles
around and as Ergo a musical. Wow. So here's the here's the
connection. I'll just read his email. It's from Orlando. And of
course, we could have figured this one out Taylor Swift's
quote, music. I like that nice little editorial there. Chris is
being distributed by Universal Music Group, which is owned by
Vivendi. Vivendi, sold some or all of Universal Studios to NBC
a few years ago. And of course, NBC aired the interview of the
genius. Taylor Swift. Bingo. Yeah, that's how it works.
That's how it works.
Yeah, it's one big scam. And but
but they don't even know they're doing it, which is just the
crazy thing. You know, I when I was at MTV man and Viacom. It
was so obvious how this stuff worked. You know, and people
just be like, Yeah, this artists is really cool. Oh, yeah.
Awesome. And, you know, and they'll be talking to their
buddies over the other channels, it flows. It's you become part
of an organism, a compartmentalised organism, and
that just happens. And it's not even necessarily big evil. You
know, I
wonder how many people really notice this because I know my
kids do. What, for example, your
kids seek Highland commencement. I mean, clearly, they're not the
norm.
The point is, is that might when we're watching CBS, it's kind of
funny because you sitting around with me if everybody's watching
this 60 minutes, which is rare, because most people don't like
to show us at me. And there'll be there'll be a news story,
hard news or hard news, right? Then there'll be some fluff
piece about some singer or an actor. Der or and the kids will
always go to Viacom movie 10 bucks, it's Viacom go look it up
on the net. Of course, that's like it, but it's like, why is
60 minutes? You know, once the age, just baffling 60 minutes,
which does, you know, huge world events, talks to world leaders,
and then all sudden, they come up with a with a big fluff
piece. Yeah, well, and they make those pieces months in advance,
sometimes John, it's just on the shelf. Don't forget, in the
traditional broadcast medium, you have to make, let me think
60 minutes, you know, so without commercials, of course, 46. But
you have to make 46 minutes of programming every single week,
and you need some pad, as they call it,
it's down to 40 as
you could be right. You couldn't be right, the way I'm seeing the
television these days.
I think it's 40 minutes an hour now.
So we need padding, you know, and that pad comes in the form
of a two minute piece, a four minute piece or a six minute
piece that can be chopped down to a three minute piece, you
know, and then of course, the credits are really the final
major. I love the way you pronounce that. And the
depending on how much time is left, they will speed up the
credits or slow them down to hit their 60 minutes. Exactly.
Including all the commercials. That's how it works because you
gotta hit the commercial pod, right on the dot. People don't
realise this you don't know when sometimes you see a show and the
credits go by Oh, it's so fast that on your, on your on your
LCD screen. It's actually completely unreadable. They do
that because they're trying to cram in all the credits into the
exact amount of time they have left.
Yeah, no, they credit roll is used as a kind of a buffer a
bumper, yeah, buffer a bumper buffer to buffer that you got
you didn't when you see a slow credit roll, which is the one
always cracks me up and they start showing credits for people
they never show the extra names they put on and I like to thank
my mother and you go oh my god, somebody screwed up. Yes. When
you have a credit roll then you know that that the show ended
too soon somebody hit or miss timing or something. So who
knows? Yeah. And the Simpsons do it kind of on both ends of the
show that at the beginning of their show, they have variations
of the of their opening cartoon words where Homer is driving
home from work after leaving the the nuke plant. And it's
sometimes they'll compress that no leaves sections of it out.
And they use that to buffer the show today, because I did yeah.
You have a real short version. That's almost like he just
pretty much gets out of work. And at home.
I will say it is so impressive when you see how the big
broadcast personalities i When the MSNBC launched and they were
over in New Jersey. This was with my previous company. Oh
actually was before think it was onramp. And Microsoft, who of
course, were one of the partners with NBC. They they needed a
chat to to go along with some of their programming, and I can't
remember exactly how but actually, it was Denise What was
her name? Who was a Microsoft woman? I'm sure you know her
Caruso, I want to say, does that make sense? And he's Caruso.
She was a journalist. No.
It wasn't Denise something other than she was in charge of at the
time, it was Microsoft comic chat. Remember that? We have
this little avatars,
right? It's another thing that failed. Of course, they never
stick to these things is what problems it couldn't
scale. This was the problem. So they couldn't scale it. And the
the team within Microsoft was really worried. And they but
they wanted some form of chat. And we had a bunch of these
hacker boys like with names like rat boy. And I forget, Alan
Louie was one not that that's a cool name. But I just remember
these guys. And they had basically hacked together a
very, very, very basic, very frickin simple CGI script into
an IRC, you know, proven technology, right? Go figure.
And so we had this really robust chat based on IRC, which I to
this day, obviously still can't figure out. And so they hired us
to implement this. And because of that, we were we were invited
to the opening. And you'll recall, perhaps that the big
interview they had an opening day was Tom Brokaw. Tom Brokaw,
Tom Brokaw tried to ruin President Bill Clinton. And I
sat in the control room, and I was blown away by the
professionalism of this guy. So he's got his earpiece in and
he's talking, he's having a conversation and I believe he is
listening to what the then President was saying. And so
they're having a dialogue and the producer is continuously
talking into his ear and giving him cues and then it's like,
okay, Tom, well, we have 30 seconds to commercial while
Brokaw is talking. And, and he's counting down the seconds and
bro Cole fires off another question, which he knows is only
going to get a quick yes or no answer. And he pulls back away
from the President and hits the commercial break right on the
nose. And I still get goosebumps when I think about that that
actual sequence it is unfreaking real how good these guys are.
You know, I do a lot every once once I have one of these remote
crews from one of the big networks come by the house or
something to shoot or some two second thing a blurb. Yeah. And
I'm always grilling him about people they worked with. And at
one time, I was working with the ABC network crew and they just
have a thing called Sunday business and I got to do a
report on it. And so I was chatting with the guys and I
know about this, these kinds of guys who have the multitasking
ability to listen to the IFBB in their ear and and it makes it
look
like I can do some of that but not like Broca Well of course
not. That's
why Broncos making millions of dollars but they always said
that the guy who was the absolute best at the stuff and
totally underrated was Forrest Sawyer. Really? Yeah, they were
they the guy says that apparently Forrest Sawyer is
legendary amongst various crews for being so slick. He never
flubs a line. He can pick up the stuff off the IFBB His timing is
impeccable. He's just apparently just astonishing. He, he went
off, and I've always wondered why he ever got into you know,
he never took over the Nightline job or stuff like that. I think
he I don't know what you know why?
I know why. Because he's so he's he's like a flying goalie. I
mean, you need a guy like that within your team to be able to
throw into any kind of situation, particularly if he
has that an if B is internal feedback, I think is what what
it stands for. I mean, I when we did Mardi Gras live at MTV,
that's when I kind of became the force Sawyer of MTV. Dammit,
there it is. I am the forced Sawyer of MTV. Because I could
do that too, within the limits of you know, the complexity of
Mardi Gras on MTV, but I knew I could take the direction and I
and I could pretty much keep all the shit together on a live
remote, where you might actually have to go over someone else and
kind of anchor that so makes total sense to me that Forrest
Sawyer would would not have a full time position but you know,
would be kind of the guy you can put into any throw into
anything. Because he he probably just loves doing it too.
Well, I don't know how much you'd love it because it seems
to me is that he quit the network and he went off to some
university to teach and give seminars. Now. He does new media
stuff he's not it's just he's out of his element completely.
I'm actually following his career so much, but I've ran
into him on some C span thing where he was hosting a, you
know, one of these panels of dullards that sit at the table
all in a row. And each one of them says a five minute
presentation and they go back and forth with a non non
interesting conversation kind of thing.
Well, it's probably because he had to do a Zyprexa story and he
got so disgusted by everything he just quit
not no I'd be worth check checking out I know he's
floating around somewhere but anyway, he was like the guy they
bring up his name I went okay, so I started watching him after
that with that in mind and I just see if he could you know if
there was ever going to be one mistake it was just like not
like a machine
you said something very interesting by the way the
beginning of this little dialogue about AI FBS and forest
you use the term blurb which I liked very much and I think we
should bring back my mom used to say that all the time a blurb I
don't think
it's in massive use in the magazine business.
Yeah, exactly. Which which means which means no one uses it
because no one reads magazines or books anymore. So
the book every one of those little quotes that says I think
this book is the greatest thing ever says so and so
Entertainment Weekly that's a blurb who could you
please look up the definition online right now for me of blurb
I wonder if it is defined as such in Webster's blurb and by
the way, this is probably a fine time as we near the end of this
episode have no agenda to talk about why you we need your help
to continue this fine programming.
Yes. And we went and like
blurb is not defined?
Unless it was looking like let me try it again. blurb Cersei
we need your financial help so that we can actually go look
things up for you. Yeah, we
can look stuff up on the internet. Yeah, the payoffs for
it. We no more it was actually a 1914 coinage by Gillette
Burgess. And it means a short publicity notice as on a book
jacket.
Okay, so it's but it's key word publicity. So it's a blurb is
not news. It's PR
that by definition,
yes. Well, I like it. I think we should bring blurb back into the
mainstream, which of course is the internet. Let's use that.
Alright,
well blurb it. Excellent. And by the way, it can be used as a
noun or a transitive verb. Love it. So you can blurb it.
And what's the transitive noun? What is that?
It's an it's a type of is it's what is the data transitive now
and is a transitive verb and a noun a blurb is the is the thing
and and it's just basically a thing you can do. You'll give
her it's a free you can't you know, it's like, it's like any
other. It's like most verbs. It's almost all of our
transitive
but it's okay. It's interesting how you just said, we can blurb
it at so close to blogging, isn't it?
Blog would be a transitive verb in that sense, right?
All right, so could you please blurb a little bit about our
armoury?
Well, we can use some, we just shows publicly supported, I want
to remind everybody that and we're trying to keep it, so keep
it that way. But so we don't sit here and do five minute
commercials for various products. You know,
like Squarespace and GoDaddy, and the same as
your everyplace else. And it's like, which is nothing wrong
with doing that, if you don't mind. And some people actually
send us notes saying, Well, you know, you might as well do
commercials, or we're sick of you asking for money, we only
ask for money for about 30 seconds, as opposed to two or
three minute commercials where we asking you to do this and
that and the other thing, which is pretty much the same thing.
And we're just telling you to just give us some money
directly. So we can not worry about you know, we might have
some influences
and not you know, we'd so we can be completely zero.
I mean, at some point, okay, maybe, you know, we won't be
able to we were going to prove that we won't get enough public
support, we won't get enough donations@dvorak.org slash in a
dis divorce.org/enter You can sign up. And you know, but we
actually haven't done any premiums or anything like that,
which some people complain about, but I think we're going
to probably have to do that. In other words, give away a book or
something when we get Hema underwear. The Hema and by the
way, the voert.org/na By the way, the HEMA underwear thing I
was thinking about the embroidery, you know, I think it
might not be a good idea. Oh, boy, you don't want a bunch of
knots and strings and threads and rubbing against rubbing
against your private parts.
I was just trying to visualise if I wanted that or not.
You know, you're gonna get it you're gonna have a you know, so
it'd be boring.
Maybe on the waistband. I mean, we've got it the waistband won't
hurt you, Willa. Yeah,
but the waistband and that really good was really kind of
thin. It's not like a big fat waistband like you know cheap
jockey shorts.
Okay, well, I'm, I have a prototype coming. So we can we
can try the prototype. We can we can try the prototype. I'll get
the you get the black jockey version and I get the you know
the cool kind of surfer dude with pant pant legs. And we'll
try it we'll see if we if we like it. I don't think it's
going to bother you at all the embroidery I take your point.
But you know, a premium is a premium for them. And let's
learn from MTV. Okay. I mean, Christ crepes. Craig Crikey. How
about just a blurb? We'll put a blurb on the HEMA underwear
blurb. So I just crashed my
Firefox did you guys update 3.5 million, which of course
automatically downloads and kills everything you're doing.
And you never can figure it out until you get that dialogue box
saying, Hey, we downloaded this for you suck. Ah,
I have no idea I might have.
It's quite annoying. I hate it when they do that. So it
crashed.
And I just said and it said you want me to send a message? No,
don't. Don't Don't click it. What's the point
that we didn't have any good donations since last Thursday?
anything?
Nothing? Major. I end the ones that did come in. I'll mention
them on the next Thursday show.
Well, thanks, everybody. We really appreciate it. All right,
John, what are we at? I've got count 65 Take off the beginning
about 61 minutes. So we've been trying to there's a couple more
things I want to mention. Oh, I'm sorry. Should I stop the the
credit music?
Oh, no measurement and actual image. Let me tease him then.
Okay. I'm gonna talk about this on PBS programming, including
kids biz or biz kids or whatever. It's Oh, yes. Where
they show a Jewish guy in a money safe counting money.
Offensive. I will discuss that's extremely offensive, extremely
offensive. And it's on PBS of all things. Unbelievable. Oh,
yeah. And also there. Now, if you wash your car in Port
Angeles on the street, you can be fined $1,000, because the
federal government will not let you wash your car anymore. If
it's going to go into the sewer.
And that is in the state of Cascadia. Yes, but
this is and they always say no, no, no, it's the government
edict. The government wants to water rights. They want to make
it clear that you can't
Well they own the water. Remember, we they pass the bill.
The government owns all the water, it's their water. It's
not your water to expend whoever you wish. It's their water.
So we'll talk about done next time.
And next time, we'll come very soon. Until then, coming to you
from the crappiest bandwidth corporate apartment in San
Francisco Gitmo nation West. My name is Adam curry
and sitting on fibre up here in the Pacific Northwest. Gitmo
nation Pacific Northwest as it were. I'm John C. Dvorak.
We'll talk again on Thursday right here on no agenda.