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Adam curry, John C. Dvorak is
the second of July 2009. That is

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time for your get mo nation
audio publication episode 109.

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This is no agenda coming to you
from the undisclosed lawful

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location in San Francisco Gitmo
nation west on the Deathstar

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limiting internet connection.
I'm Adam curry

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and from Northern Silicon Valley
in a probably located location

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you could figure out but you
know if you're debt you could

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figure it out Adams place to I'm
John C. Dvorak. Greg Levin,

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Buzzkill. They've already
figured it out, John, it's no

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big secret. I'm like what you
put on the door, honey. So we

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don't want anyone to find us.

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How did that happen? I don't
know. Because I can assure you

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that I didn't tell anybody.

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No, no, no, there was a couple
of things that were interesting.

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And what were let's give it to
people the background. Yeah, the

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background is that the Dutch
press, both in a magazine and on

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television, spoke about the new
love nest that Adam and Mickey

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are staying in in San Francisco.
And the lead Lulla loved that

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nest. And, and they had pictures
on pictures of the outside. They

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had the the exact amount we're
paying in rent a month, which

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was interesting. And that of
course, yeah, that led me to, to

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a number of Actually, it wasn't
it was close enough, though. And

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then they had pictures on the
inside. But it was pretty funny

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is I guess they got pictures
from a website or some other

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brochure because there's
multiple units in this building.

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And luckily, they got the one in
the top floor, which I think

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cost $17,000 A month in rent. So
it looks like we have quite a

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love nest indeed. Yeah. Awesome.
I'm like, Yay, please think that

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of me. But what

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did they figure out that you're
actually on the ground floor?

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Shut up, John. What was
disturbing, though, is I was

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moving remember that Friday, I
was moving in and maybe you

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don't remember. And but someone
was parking in our spot in the

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garage.

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Let me get this straight. You.
You say you were moving in?

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Well, yeah, I was I was moving
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No, man, they were like, I'd
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up. So I just got some wardrobe
boxes, I got myself a U haul,

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you know, real American style.
And, and someone had been

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parking in our spot, of course,
because the unit had been empty

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for a while. So you know, people
then just, you know, take up

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your spot. It's kind of the
American way. And so I put a

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nice little note on it saying,
hey, you know, we're moving in

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as of today. And so you can't
park here anymore. Smiley face

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signed, Adam.

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Yeah. Should have signed it
Gino? Well, that they took a

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picture of that. So they entered
the garage, which you can just

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enter and they took a picture of
that and publish them as well.

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Where you can if the door opens
and you just walk in with

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them. It's still I mean, that's
that's kind of a violation, I

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think.

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Well, I'm actually amazed at
what is I'm amazed at these guys

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have that kind of you know that
they're there. That they go that

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far. I mean, it seems to me that
these journalists are writers?

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No, no, no, I would say these
are not journalists.

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I'm just saying but they they at
least put some effort into and

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they put as much effort into
figuring out what was going on

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with this swine flu vaccine.

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Thank you,

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don't you think it'd be would
benefit the public? No offence

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to you

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know, I understand what you're
saying? Chairs? Yeah,

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you know, I mean, they've
already got you all covered.

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What difference? Does it make us
have another picture of you or a

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picture of a note? When you
could be fine? If you're going

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to put that much effort into it?
I just don't get it. Well, I

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mean, there's good stuff out
there to be oh, you know, to be

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dug up if you put a little work
into it. And no, they'd rather

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you look for somebody's you
know, handwritten note, just a

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drug. All right.

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You're so right. In fact, I will
say that in the 35 minutes of

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preparation I do for the show, I
get up around 630. I'll have

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breakfast around seven 730, you
know, quarter to eight. I'm kind

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of prepping and I do all I have
to do is just go through the

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list of emails. And I know
everything about the forced

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vaccinations, the code read the
CDC, us calling for and, of

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course, the swine flu, which is
going to kill us all. And I know

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that in 35 minutes, these guys
actually have to send someone to

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San Francisco. 8000 kilometre
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It must be a string or out here.
Does that die? No. You know

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what, it's it's a little more
frightening than that because,

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of course, everyone today is a
stringer. And anyone who has a

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camera, anyone has a video
camera, and we are being

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followed constantly by people.
It's a little annoying, I have

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to say. Yeah. Well, you know,
particularly for a woman alone

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if Nikki's walking around on the
street. She feels these guys

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walking behind her, you know,
and that she turns and she sees

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him taking pictures of her you
know, it's So now she could of

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course beat the crap out of any
guy. I'm pretty convinced. But

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still, it's

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it's. That's a shot you want to
get though. Well, that's

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the one we're going to have you
take so that you can make some

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real money. Yesterday we were
taking pictures of me and four

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burly men, hoisting a nine foot
tabletop up over the balcony

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and those are available for sale

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to get a hold of me at the
vortrag.org you

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have a movie for you if you want
to get

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to those guys our cage fighters.
Oh really? Yeah. And they have

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cage matches some place on
Folsom? They're gonna send me an

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invite I'll go watch that I'll
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Oh yeah, those are those guys
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like the typical nice guys who
liked a fight

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and it's always good for them to
be my friends

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again guys you want to have as
friends in the bar Yeah,

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fantastic. Yeah, I go to see a
cage that local one that's

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because that's you know these
guys are obviously amateurs I

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didn't know there was that many
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would have the amateur era it

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is and I think the only the only
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and amateur is you can't there's
no headshots so you can kick and

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punch into everything below the
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presume?

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You know I did I mentioned this
before I used to you know I saw

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Wait a minute don't

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tell me you were a cage fighter
John. I was a kid

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if that guy look exact one so

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sorry. You do look like a cage
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washed up one. So when I was
when they cage fighting with the

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ultimate fighting it used to be
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changed the rule so much that I
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down. It began originally as
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various martial arts

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schools. It was supposed to be a
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No, actually, originally it
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can put a karate guy a Brazilian
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or you know, Korean karate guy
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against jujitsu guy against all
these different schools. Oh,

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that was better. I got you.
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makes sense. It started with no
with no rules. In other words,

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you could do whatever you
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things happen. One of them is
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turned out to be kind of
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one of these matches people were
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it was more it was more like
this. You get firstly find some

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way to knock the guy down. And
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get them in some position where
you can just pound his balls as

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hard as you can over and over
and over again with all full

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force and you guys down on his
he's done it once he can't move

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because it's paralysing. Oh man.
And so this is what is it Orly

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Kate ultimate. Finally, I'm
watching this thing and I'm

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going oh my god, what, what is
this? And this guy, just pound

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pound. Just given it to this
guy. And of course, they stopped

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imagine this guy couldn't get up
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and you'll never have kids. And
so they started to say, well,

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maybe we should change some
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two guys started doing this
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effective. Was the rule so that
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think this was maybe about 1999
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one guy came through the ranks
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closely but it doesn't take it's
not really a difficult sport to

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follow. Some guy came through
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wrestling is not really what
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You know and but this guy will
only once you got you down you

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were doomed you there was
nothing you could do because he

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knew all these crazy moves that
he gets in and then they always

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ended up with a chokehold, which
is a specific hole that that

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that kind of chokes you know,
cuts the blood supply to the

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brain actually knocks you out.
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yeah, and that's the definition
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Well, choking is a stop you from
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be just beside the point. The
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this Greco Roman guy was just
beating everybody because you

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know, the guy beat in this
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for his legs. I goes down boom
matches over. So they said you

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know, this is

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a little it's sort of guy
started talking. The matches got

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to be longer. Yeah, they

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got really boring with this with
this is Greco Roman guys and it

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was like changing the whole idea
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martial arts MMA they like to
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the rules again and now they got
it so it's kind of you know,

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it's fairly interesting, but you
know, real fans of people beat

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each other up still. Well, you
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sport

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although the Ultimate Fighting
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and the Tokyo Dome sells out and
that thing is huge was the Tokyo

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Dome like a 150,000 people can
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don't know what you could see
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they have screens,

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but it's huge. I know a couple
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ultimate fighters and they make
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It's a real business if you'd
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anyway, so severely. Anyway,
that's kind of it.

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So yeah, but wow, there's so
much news, John.

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Yeah, no, we got a lot of emails
this week, like lots. Yeah. And

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I, you know, if we can even get
to half of it today, it's going

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to be a miracle. Well, first,

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I'm sorry. Go ahead. What is
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I, you know, well, either. The
two things that I find

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interesting, or the most
interesting are the labelling

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requirements of the new
greenhouse gas bill. And the

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other one is, of course, the we
have a lot of interesting

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information about the swine flu
vaccine, including an insider's

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a little input from an insider.

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There's one other thing because
yesterday, there was some actual

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news which covered up the Real
News. I don't know if you even

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heard it. But yesterday, US
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cities.

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Was that yesterday, the day
before? Yesterday, that

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June 30. The media reported it
sometime yesterday. But of

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course, it covered up the Real
News, John, which is that

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British Petroleum and China have
won the right I love that one

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the right to develop Iraq's
Ramallah oilfield. And that is

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the the real news. I guess there
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this oilfield May, according to
Reuters, may yield $1.7 trillion

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in profit over the next 20
years. Amazing. So I guess it

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was about oil after all, you
think?

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So the that'd be actually a good
sound clip. You think? So?

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That's my ringtone. So, so the
British Chinese deal goes

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through and then we decide,
okay, we can leave now.

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I think it's probably
orchestrated differently. Like,

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why don't we make a big news
report that we're all going to

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leave. And on the same day,
we'll give these rights to BP

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I actually, the funny thing is,
is that neither one of those

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things came to the to the to the
to that is what's

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so amazing, is that, though
because I heard this withdrawal,

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I had a cab driver yesterday,
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pissed off San for me, this guy
could be on cranky geeks. You

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know, born and bred San
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disenchanted with everything.
He's like, Yeah, you know, our

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country, you know, we go and
kill people. And then he starts

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mumbling about Yeah, well, you
know, now we've withdrawn from

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all the cities in Iraq. And
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that, you know, this guy's got
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kinds of reports. And I heard it
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on the quote, real news.

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Yeah, well, you know, the right
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And there's on all their talk
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interesting was, there's a
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main media didn't take bring it
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Britney Spears do something. No,
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was like there. You know, the
mainstream media, which is what

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it means street MSM MSMS em,
they decided, you know, in some,

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you know, the New York Times, of
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of the Colts he

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would record Yes, of course. So
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decided that it was so
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in front of that mission
accomplished sign that they

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didn't want to put Obama in a
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it looked like he had done some
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they're gonna have to backtrack
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before before we get to the
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the swine flu will probably take
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Something happened yesterday,
which I got a clip from C span.

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And this is about the townhall
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doing. And of course I

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shot I saw one of them. He's
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place with these with this with
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Right. Now of course our problem
with these townhomes. By the

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way, I've got a lot of kind of
boomy echo in here. I apologise.

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I got to set something up
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It doesn't sound that bad. Okay.

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So what we've been harping on
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townhall meetings are completely
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shills, the questions are all
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it's always about 13 questions,
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I mean, it's not a town hall
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up and saying, Hey, yo, dude, I
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opinion here. So yesterday to
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conference, start really late
into Robert gives the White

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House press secretary about
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is Helen Thomas, which of
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more at all. I think she's just
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still sits up front, but she's
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whatever, or they've threatened
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know, I don't know what they've
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anymore. And I just wanted to
play a little bit of Robert

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Gibbs and I'll give you the name
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today's town hall meeting.
questions coming in on YouTube

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and Twitter and such who decides
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I think a group over at New
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questions. I think if you go on,
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think if you go on our website,
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questions. And I think chip at
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it's chip to know who chip is.
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seen him talk before I can't
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so first of all the answer Oh,
they're the New Media Group. But

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this is a town hall meeting.
Right? And that is supposed to

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be taking questions through
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We take some let's be really
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Twitter because that's really
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When you have you does that.
Robert Gibbs has acaba that

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boydell? Probably because?
Because he's because he's

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starting to watch coke probably
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I think the questions

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is probably because he has swine
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read to the President.
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questions from the audience
there, I think will be a

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representative sample of the
issues in this debate that we're

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dealing

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and the audience is all pre
selected, right. Now. See, now

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I like that you said the
audience is all pre select. You

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can hear this Okay, John? Yeah,
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know, we usually just generally
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first served basis.

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In this case, the people were
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House or by the university.

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Community College, as explained,
if the university is feels very

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tightly controlled, it feels I
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hall, I think, is to have an
open public forum. And this

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sounds like a very tightly
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finally, there's someone saying,
well, we've been saying for all

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along, but now he's out. Here,
he's in the hot seat next to

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hell and Thomas. So you know,
he's fuck now. All right.

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Listen, listen to this gets
good, though, because Gibbs

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really starts to mess up.

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And what's the questions? Why,
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How about we do this? How about
you, you can ask me that

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question tomorrow, based on what
questions were asked, rather

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than pre selecting your
question, based on?

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He's such a douchebag. But by
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better

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not come wide pre select, why
not just open it up for people

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and allow any question to come
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chipped I think if you get on
your computer, from your email

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address, and have you send in
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I think that would be
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public? Well,

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I'm sorry, I'm confused. Are you
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think if you were going to allow
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have us in a prominent position
over there and allow us to ask

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questions, you

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get into the notion of where
you'd be sitting. Next you

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listen to all these other
jabroni. He made a funny?

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Yeah, that's the Podesta media.
That's There you go. That's

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the media reporting on The Real
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I let you ask a question, but
shout it out. But you could

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email

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me you put my question. Well, I
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think so. Maybe. Have you
emailed? I mean, this is a,

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you'd have an email. This is

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an open forum for the public to
ask questions, but it's not

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really open. But it's not open
based on what based on the

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information that your staff gave
us on how the audience and the

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questions are being selected.

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The questions are being selected
by people that email on Facebook

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and Twitter.

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I love that email. This guy is
so hip who email on Facebook and

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Twitter. Hey, Gibbs, hello, 2009
calling dude.

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They're not deciding what
questions actually appreciate,

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again, control. I appreciate,
again, like his town meetings

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all through the campaign. I
appreciate

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the question on your part. Yes,
I think that's a very safe bet.

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But again,

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will there be dissenting views?
I think that's a very safe bet.

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Oh, he's sure. Of course, we'll
have someone asked something

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really controversial.

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So how about we do this? I
promise. We will interrupt the

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APS tradition of asking the
first question. I'll let you ask

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me a question tomorrow as to
whether you thought the

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questions at the town hall
meeting that the President

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conducted in Annandale

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here comes Helen here's her
she's really laying into it.

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Control

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never had that in his White
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Yeah, I was gonna say I'll let
you amend her question amazed.

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People who call for openness and
transparency

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Oh shit. Oh shit, what's
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You gotta look going. You got
somebody aiming to your your

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sheet love bundle and I fixed it
you there.

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Okay, let's I just want you to
hear Helen, who by the way I

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predict now will have a heart
attack any day.

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Even if there's a tough
question, it's a question coming

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from somebody who was invited
onto a screen where the question

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was screen,

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chip, chip. Let's have this
discussion at the conclusion of

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the town hall meeting. How about
that? Now which question is the

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object to listen to? What's the
pattern of controlling the

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press? Yes, so is it any habit
it's currently going on that I'm

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controlling to print poorly on
my package how so? Well, and the

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ninth important challenge are
going to be called

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anyway, so you can watch the
entire YouTube video. The links

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will be in the show notes that
no agenda mvno.com or career.com

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or devora.org and I'm so happy
to see Helen Thomas speak up and

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she's it may not be really easy
to hear but she's she's laying

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into a man and she's pointing at
him she's got that bony finger

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and she saw

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right before Well, she's been
around forever so she would know

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what this what the patterns are
she I guess she's fed up. Yeah,

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but she's been show but the rest
of these people they apparently

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aren't not they're probably just
pleased as punch to be in the

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room. Yeah, exactly. That a
group of people we can be near

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greatness. We can be near
greatness. It's so wonderful.

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Well, you know, the dam may be
breaking me a lot of people

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believe if you watch the TV
pundits, there's a kind of a

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meme going around that the that
the press is dropping, you know,

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they're dropped. Their gloves
are off.

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Right? Yeah. Oh, yeah. The press
is not really laying into him or

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her.

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And I think they may be
premature on that because these

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guys aren't going to put up with
that crap. And so she's gonna be

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too The problem is you know,
she's so visible this is like

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now they have real issues. You
know, they're having immediate

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you've been in meetings. Yes.
The media goes like this. What

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are we going to do about this
old battle axe? I would just

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move her to the back man just
move her to the back. No, no,

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no, no, let's MJ her. The
weekend mover to the back

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because everyone will notice we
moved her to a back You

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bonehead. Oh, we're gonna else
can we do we're gonna give

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her an MJ. Heart attack. Yeah,
harsh. And by the way, I

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apologise to Congressman Henry
Waxman. Apparently, after our

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berating he received on no
agenda. He was admitted to the

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hospital in Los Angeles after
fainting in his district office.

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He had the vapours. Ah, I have
the

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vapours. I don't feel too good.
And Mr. DeVore, aka Mr. Curry.

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They've been they've been
slandering me. Ha don't feel too

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well.

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We need to revitalise that term
the vapour vapours.

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It means so many things on so
many levels. I really like it.

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The vapours that is a good one.
There's a there's another great

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video of Henry Waxman from the
movie bigger, stronger, faster.

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Have you ever seen that John?
No, I don't think so. It's it's

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about the baseball steroid
hearings. And I'm tempted to

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play a little bit of it just to
hear what a bonehead it is not

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karoku Ron's anymore for us
right now. But let's just listen

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to a little bit he's being
interviewed about in his office

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about about steroids and, and
it's like, like, he doesn't know

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he's being videotaped or
something. But he just he keeps

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he doesn't know anything. And he
keeps stopping and asking

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someone off camera if he's
right.

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They always tell you that if you
have a problem, talk to your

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Congressman. Lucky for me, my
congressman is Henry Waxman.

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Hey,

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I'm fine. How are you? Well,
this

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is a satirical piece. Jon

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Meacham Chris Bell, Jim. He's
the one who called the baseball

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hearings in the first place.
He's got to have some answers.

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I think it's important for
sports figures in major league

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sports not to be allowed to use
steroids under any circumstance.

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And for young people, we
certainly don't want them to be

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using it. So the drug is a
restricted drug drug. It's not.

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There's not a limit. Brian, is
it illegal to use it? It's

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illegal. It's legal under some
circumstances.

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Prescription so the guy is
saying so this is the guy who

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called for the actual steroid
here and he doesn't even know if

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steroids are legal or not. It
Gets Better It

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Gets most legal with a medical
prescription. And the other drug

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was the testosterone are just
well, they're always in general.

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I think that they're there. also
bent should they already banned

448
00:25:02,220 --> 00:25:05,310
in professional sports? Brian,
am I right? Because if I'm

449
00:25:05,310 --> 00:25:09,180
wrong, well, these these
products are registered. Brian

450
00:25:09,180 --> 00:25:10,140
is the congressman.

451
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,500
Wait, listen to what he says
about alcohol on tobacco and

452
00:25:13,500 --> 00:25:13,590
then

453
00:25:13,590 --> 00:25:18,930
I'll stop it. Cigarettes and
alcohol are legally available.

454
00:25:19,290 --> 00:25:24,750
But not if you're under the age
when I think the age is 18 for

455
00:25:24,750 --> 00:25:28,200
both all around the country, is
it 18 to 21 I'm getting

456
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:32,280
confused. So Strike that.

457
00:25:35,580 --> 00:25:40,200
He doesn't even though the law
is unbelievable. Any 16 year old

458
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:41,310
kid knows this.

459
00:25:42,180 --> 00:25:48,270
No kidding. Come on. We went
Brian for the congressman. Yeah,

460
00:25:48,270 --> 00:25:49,380
Ryan, you run.

461
00:25:49,619 --> 00:25:53,999
Brian knows what's going on. I
had to remind you of a couple of

462
00:25:53,999 --> 00:25:57,719
things. John, one was a quote on
the streets. You want to hear

463
00:25:57,719 --> 00:26:03,779
that? Are you? Oh, yeah. Set it
up. Okay, so a little bit,

464
00:26:03,779 --> 00:26:04,229
please.

465
00:26:04,919 --> 00:26:08,729
You know, if anything is turned
on already twice. You're talking

466
00:26:08,729 --> 00:26:10,919
louder and louder. As the show
goes on. You notice that you

467
00:26:10,919 --> 00:26:14,549
always do that? It's funny.
Yeah. So I'm while you're in the

468
00:26:14,549 --> 00:26:15,299
stream, harder

469
00:26:15,300 --> 00:26:16,710
of hearing as the show goes on.

470
00:26:16,740 --> 00:26:21,300
What? What? So I'm hard of
hearing because the speakers are

471
00:26:21,300 --> 00:26:26,550
down to 10. Anyway. So the by
the way, I'm not hard of hearing

472
00:26:26,550 --> 00:26:29,280
for my for anybody. By the way,
I want to recommend people out

473
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:33,570
there right now. wear ear
protection. When I was a kid and

474
00:26:33,570 --> 00:26:37,860
I worked in a sheet metal shop.
The first thing I was told was

475
00:26:37,860 --> 00:26:41,790
you had to take a salt tablets
and wear ear protection, what

476
00:26:41,790 --> 00:26:45,060
are the salt tablets for because
you sweat a lot in these places,

477
00:26:45,060 --> 00:26:47,520
and you have to take care of a
salt tablet that makes sense.

478
00:26:47,580 --> 00:26:50,010
Like a horse pickle would do the
job,

479
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,380
you can just lay on his lick one
of those horse things

480
00:26:52,649 --> 00:26:56,909
that would work actually.
Anyway. So the ear protects are

481
00:26:56,909 --> 00:26:59,099
always worried ear protection.
And because I worked in these

482
00:26:59,129 --> 00:27:02,219
various factories, which of
course no kid can do nowadays,

483
00:27:02,219 --> 00:27:07,109
since we have none. But as
always, that I carried that

484
00:27:07,109 --> 00:27:10,469
through college through the era
of various kinds of you know,

485
00:27:10,499 --> 00:27:13,109
power trios and things like
that. I always wore ear

486
00:27:13,109 --> 00:27:16,529
protection. And I still do as a
matter of fact, in in

487
00:27:16,529 --> 00:27:19,319
California, people don't realise
that every bar that has a band

488
00:27:19,349 --> 00:27:22,169
has to have those little things
you can shove in your ear behind

489
00:27:22,169 --> 00:27:27,929
the bar free for the customers.
Yeah. Now I know people who are

490
00:27:27,959 --> 00:27:32,519
like, like heavy metal junkies,
and they're like, in their 30s

491
00:27:32,519 --> 00:27:36,329
Now, and then they can't hear
anything and they shout when

492
00:27:36,329 --> 00:27:38,849
they speak. Because you know,
it's like when you have

493
00:27:38,849 --> 00:27:41,039
headphones on you always talk
too loud because you can't hear

494
00:27:41,039 --> 00:27:46,319
yourself. Right. Right. And so I
just telling everybody out

495
00:27:46,319 --> 00:27:48,899
there, where are your
protection. So now I'm walking

496
00:27:48,899 --> 00:27:53,189
down the street and I'm as these
two guys walking along. And this

497
00:27:53,189 --> 00:27:56,399
is one of the weirdest non
sequiturs I've ever heard came

498
00:27:56,399 --> 00:27:59,339
out of one guy's mouth, and I'm
just was so baffled by it. I

499
00:27:59,339 --> 00:28:01,499
have to call Adam up to eat
because I didn't have a panic

500
00:28:01,499 --> 00:28:05,009
and write it down in my, I could
have recorded it. But anyway, so

501
00:28:05,009 --> 00:28:05,159
this

502
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,220
is only something you would hear
in, in San Francisco or anywhere

503
00:28:08,220 --> 00:28:11,400
near Silicon Valley. And I'm
sure these guys were in Dockers.

504
00:28:12,510 --> 00:28:16,920
The quote is, when you're trying
to make money, it's almost

505
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:21,720
counterintuitive to be
groundbreaking. I love it.

506
00:28:22,740 --> 00:28:25,140
When you're trying to make
money. It's almost

507
00:28:25,140 --> 00:28:28,590
counterintuitive to be
groundbreaking. What does that

508
00:28:28,620 --> 00:28:33,420
mean? It has no meaning
whatsoever.

509
00:28:33,450 --> 00:28:38,430
I love it. Hey, before I got to
hit you with some aviation news,

510
00:28:38,430 --> 00:28:41,070
and I don't want to bore anyone
you already said yesterday. Oh,

511
00:28:41,070 --> 00:28:44,010
just don't bore anybody with
your aviation news. So

512
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,160
of course I got only I'm only
saying that because somebody

513
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:48,840
said that to me. Yeah, well

514
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:57,450
enough. And that's about me. So
here's here's what, JJ so of

515
00:28:57,450 --> 00:29:00,930
course, I got a lot of feedback.
A lot of Twitter's people saying

516
00:29:00,930 --> 00:29:04,770
hey, curry, Dude, you are wrong
or what's going on? Because

517
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,700
after the most recent scare bus
crash, we were supposed to have

518
00:29:08,700 --> 00:29:11,700
a Boeing crash and the ongoing
airliner wars which by the way

519
00:29:11,700 --> 00:29:16,410
on Twitter is hash airliner wars
if you want to tag it. And you

520
00:29:16,410 --> 00:29:20,640
started a meme. Yes. And so
Yemen, the Yemen crash was also

521
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:24,660
an Airbus. Now, I do want to
point out that in between these

522
00:29:24,660 --> 00:29:27,300
two incidents, and that's what
we call them an aviation an

523
00:29:27,330 --> 00:29:32,700
incident or a day wrecker. Bad
Day. Boeing, of course, had to

524
00:29:32,700 --> 00:29:37,770
delay the launch of their
Dreamliner 787, which was

525
00:29:37,770 --> 00:29:42,090
probably because of some form of
sabotage. Now, you'll recall

526
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:47,460
that we discussed specifically
regarding flight 447 This is the

527
00:29:47,460 --> 00:29:51,540
one that was on those way from
Brazil to Paris, that there was

528
00:29:51,540 --> 00:29:54,720
a Reuters report about it was it
Mexican Mexican airline that

529
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:59,280
these pilots saw a white flash
at the exact moment that that

530
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:03,930
the old Contact was was lost
with the with this Air France,

531
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,620
Airbus. And of course, I'm
calling for more of this the

532
00:30:07,650 --> 00:30:12,510
airliner wars maybe another test
from outer space and that it was

533
00:30:12,510 --> 00:30:15,060
nuked that, you know there's
these electromagnetic pulse

534
00:30:15,060 --> 00:30:18,960
weapons that are being used
everywhere. Now a Dutch report,

535
00:30:19,170 --> 00:30:23,460
a Dutch report a real Dutch real
news report. Apparently there

536
00:30:23,460 --> 00:30:29,430
was one girl, a 13 year old girl
who survived this gaming crash.

537
00:30:30,180 --> 00:30:36,300
And she said just before the
plane crashed, there was a huge

538
00:30:36,330 --> 00:30:46,200
electric shock inside the
aircraft. So I really Yes, and I

539
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:51,660
can translate it on the fly the
girl of the only survivor of the

540
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:59,700
of the crash on Tuesday. Her
name is Bahia Bukhari says that

541
00:30:59,700 --> 00:31:05,100
as the just before the plane
went down, she felt a quote

542
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,910
electric shock. And then when
she opened her eyes, she was in

543
00:31:08,910 --> 00:31:12,690
the ocean in the dark and she
hung on to a piece of wreckage

544
00:31:12,900 --> 00:31:15,690
and she was fished out of the
sea that the the French

545
00:31:15,690 --> 00:31:19,800
authorities by the way believe
there may be another child who

546
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,040
survived this crash that was
probably picked up by a what are

547
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:23,130
the

548
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,280
many aircraft what were the
French authorities have anything

549
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:27,090
to do with it? Because

550
00:31:27,090 --> 00:31:30,360
it's a it's an Airbus and it was
on its and it was on its way to

551
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:31,860
France? Are you kidding me?
There were

552
00:31:31,860 --> 00:31:34,200
French people on board. It was
landing on that island, that

553
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:34,950
crazy island.

554
00:31:35,250 --> 00:31:37,170
It was going the other way
around? You know what I mean?

555
00:31:37,620 --> 00:31:39,660
There were French people on
board. That's why the French are

556
00:31:39,660 --> 00:31:43,230
involved. And by the way, isn't
it coincidental that both Airbus

557
00:31:43,230 --> 00:31:47,310
scare bus crashes involve French
people and French destinations

558
00:31:47,310 --> 00:31:54,450
or departure points. And EAD s I
believe is partially French, is

559
00:31:54,450 --> 00:31:54,720
it not?

560
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,680
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, they
are. So Hmm.

561
00:31:58,710 --> 00:32:02,700
So there's something to this
electromagnet magnetic pulse

562
00:32:02,700 --> 00:32:05,670
weaponry. And there was another
article that I believe you're

563
00:32:05,670 --> 00:32:11,340
copied on, John. We're going to
pull this up. Written by this is

564
00:32:11,340 --> 00:32:16,920
from mid Midwest business.
news.com. midden? I'm sorry, mid

565
00:32:16,950 --> 00:32:23,010
Midwest. business.com, written
by Carlini. Do you know this guy

566
00:32:23,010 --> 00:32:23,760
Carlini?

567
00:32:24,090 --> 00:32:27,150
No, I don't know. Well, no.
Well, he

568
00:32:27,150 --> 00:32:29,130
has this whole article, which
I'm not going to read for you,

569
00:32:29,130 --> 00:32:31,230
obviously. But you do need to
take a look at it in the show

570
00:32:31,230 --> 00:32:34,740
notes. And this is I'll just
read a bit of it. Chicago, North

571
00:32:34,740 --> 00:32:37,800
Korea doesn't have anything that
could reach the US or do they

572
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,470
the threat of nuclear bombs is
such a remote possibility today

573
00:32:40,470 --> 00:32:43,230
that no one really thinks about
it these days isn't really true.

574
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,380
Perhaps you should rethink that
threat when you see how many

575
00:32:46,380 --> 00:32:50,130
bombs could potentially come to
your city. And it turns out that

576
00:32:50,130 --> 00:32:54,870
Chicago was actually a prime
target for I guess he's a local

577
00:32:54,900 --> 00:33:00,720
Chicago writer. And here it is.
There are people on the

578
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,960
conservative side saying the
conservative side, I guess it

579
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:09,300
would be me, we better take heed
of an attack of emp,

580
00:33:09,330 --> 00:33:13,140
electromagnetic pulse weapons,
these damaged power lines,

581
00:33:13,140 --> 00:33:16,440
supervisory control and data
acquisition control systems and

582
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,290
commercial computers that would
very likely be permanent due to

583
00:33:19,290 --> 00:33:23,760
fuse power lines and lost data.
And as well, but he has this

584
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:27,000
whole article article about how
easy it is what I've told you

585
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:28,620
this, you can look up on the
internet, you will know

586
00:33:29,940 --> 00:33:33,510
when we attacked Iraq, we use
these weapons really is a weapon

587
00:33:33,510 --> 00:33:36,000
that's common to the US
military, right. And

588
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,940
it's not hard to make. I mean,
there's there's instructions on

589
00:33:38,940 --> 00:33:41,670
the internet. I'm not telling
you to do that. But there's

590
00:33:41,670 --> 00:33:44,340
instructions on the internet on
how to make one of these. But

591
00:33:44,340 --> 00:33:47,700
now it makes total sense why so
many trillions of dollars are

592
00:33:47,700 --> 00:33:51,300
being poured into the quote,
upgrading of the grid.

593
00:33:52,230 --> 00:33:55,380
Ah, right, possible. That's why
the

594
00:33:55,380 --> 00:33:58,530
smart grid has to come into play
because it has to be protected

595
00:33:58,530 --> 00:34:00,000
against an EMP.

596
00:34:00,420 --> 00:34:03,930
Nobody wants to talk about that.
Oh, of course not. There is no

597
00:34:03,930 --> 00:34:06,750
other reason for the smart grid
the way it is being described it

598
00:34:06,750 --> 00:34:09,060
because we've discussed this
before. By the way, somebody

599
00:34:09,060 --> 00:34:11,670
says the stream is extremely
loud, it's probably way to turn

600
00:34:11,670 --> 00:34:12,270
my sound down.

601
00:34:13,620 --> 00:34:17,640
It's I think I'm output Well, I
think I'm outputting regular,

602
00:34:17,670 --> 00:34:20,100
right? Nobody's complaining
about it in terms of its

603
00:34:20,100 --> 00:34:21,570
quality, so I'm not too
concerned.

604
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,780
Well then turn your volume down.
People who are complaining turn

605
00:34:24,780 --> 00:34:25,200
down your

606
00:34:26,070 --> 00:34:28,020
knowledge. She's doing it to
everybody.

607
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:32,190
I'm sure in fact, I'm 10 DB
louder at 10 DBS louder than

608
00:34:32,190 --> 00:34:33,780
John so you can hear me better.

609
00:34:34,500 --> 00:34:37,500
That's what that's what Leo
likes to do. So

610
00:34:37,770 --> 00:34:40,350
just because he's not in the
country, you say that you pussy.

611
00:34:40,500 --> 00:34:42,870
No, he's actually still here,
but I don't think he's listening

612
00:34:42,870 --> 00:34:45,780
to us. Although he does listen
to the show. I caught him. Oh,

613
00:34:45,780 --> 00:34:52,740
really? Busted. Oh, but anyway,
so yeah, no, that would make

614
00:34:52,740 --> 00:34:56,640
sense because that I'm going to
talk to my I got some engineer

615
00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:00,000
at Falken electric, the guys who
make the UPS devices and then

616
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:04,290
Make a certain type of very high
end type. And I'm going to ask

617
00:35:04,290 --> 00:35:07,500
him about it. What do we have?
What kind of device would we

618
00:35:07,500 --> 00:35:12,780
need? This just a personal thing
to protect our computers? If

619
00:35:12,780 --> 00:35:16,950
there was an EMP pulse that was
like blast, you know, pumped in

620
00:35:16,950 --> 00:35:17,190
front,

621
00:35:18,060 --> 00:35:20,280
even if we get something to
protect the computers, the

622
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,610
internet will be down. I mean,
will want lines will be fried

623
00:35:23,610 --> 00:35:24,060
everywhere

624
00:35:24,060 --> 00:35:25,860
do some writing, you know, in
the dark?

625
00:35:27,930 --> 00:35:31,590
Well, I'm always hopeful that as
long as we could protect our

626
00:35:31,590 --> 00:35:35,340
computers and our Wi Fi cards,
we could create some form of wet

627
00:35:35,340 --> 00:35:38,640
mesh network and could still
kind of function. I'm pretty

628
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:38,850
sure

629
00:35:39,450 --> 00:35:42,150
if I mess your way to some
connection that that was hooked

630
00:35:42,150 --> 00:35:43,770
to the net. I mean, it's not
gonna be obviously that taken

631
00:35:43,770 --> 00:35:47,820
out the whole net, you've taken
out areas. Right. But yeah,

632
00:35:47,820 --> 00:35:51,090
that's interesting. And I'll
just add on to that way North

633
00:35:51,090 --> 00:35:53,700
Korea is not doing anything,
give me a break.

634
00:35:53,730 --> 00:35:56,460
I don't think so either. I don't
think so. I

635
00:35:56,460 --> 00:35:58,590
will just add to that. bogeyman,

636
00:35:58,710 --> 00:36:03,090
I will just add to the EMP that
I am convinced that EMP were EMP

637
00:36:03,090 --> 00:36:05,490
weaponry were used on 911.

638
00:36:06,900 --> 00:36:10,530
Yeah, that's what you like to
think. It's possible. I mean, it

639
00:36:10,530 --> 00:36:14,910
but the point is, is that there
is EMP we do use it. And they've

640
00:36:14,910 --> 00:36:17,370
talked about they don't talk
about in a lot of detail. But

641
00:36:17,370 --> 00:36:20,370
when we attacked Iraq, and I
think even during their first

642
00:36:20,370 --> 00:36:24,210
war with Kuwait, we send these
EMP weapons out which are sent

643
00:36:24,270 --> 00:36:27,450
out near all the radar
installations. And it blows them

644
00:36:27,450 --> 00:36:30,210
out. Right? Yeah, just blows
them out. They just fuses them.

645
00:36:30,210 --> 00:36:33,480
So they don't work anymore. You
don't even have to hit them. And

646
00:36:34,380 --> 00:36:36,990
just, you know, but you don't
know that they've done it. I

647
00:36:36,990 --> 00:36:39,300
don't know what they did if they
did it over the city or not. But

648
00:36:39,750 --> 00:36:42,570
because I mean, I know they had
a lot of trouble in the first

649
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:47,640
second Iraq war, to get the
power back to people two weeks.

650
00:36:47,670 --> 00:36:49,560
So maybe there was something
going on there. But that of

651
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:53,430
course, is not. Not the biggest
of our problems. The real

652
00:36:53,430 --> 00:36:58,470
problem is the clear prospect of
forced vaccinations coming down

653
00:36:58,470 --> 00:37:01,800
the pipeline for this bullshit
swine flu. And of course, the

654
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,850
vaccinations in combination with
eating of ingesting of

655
00:37:05,850 --> 00:37:09,690
genetically modified potatoes,
ie french fries, from places

656
00:37:09,690 --> 00:37:15,480
like McDonald's, that is truly
going to kill most of us. And I

657
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,600
was talking with I was talking
to Mickey about this last night.

658
00:37:18,990 --> 00:37:22,890
This crazy theory, by the way,
this theory is not yet does not

659
00:37:22,890 --> 00:37:24,960
yet have the stamp of full
approval.

660
00:37:24,990 --> 00:37:28,080
No, no, but it's got half a
stamp. It's got half a stamp.

661
00:37:28,290 --> 00:37:31,140
And she says something very
interesting. She said. So it's

662
00:37:31,140 --> 00:37:33,810
the biggest problem on Earth. I
love this woman, if the biggest

663
00:37:33,810 --> 00:37:39,390
problem on Earth is, is
overpopulation. So it gets it's

664
00:37:39,390 --> 00:37:41,580
not really bad if we kill a
whole bunch of them, right?

665
00:37:43,260 --> 00:37:45,450
Yeah, let's not eat any French
fries. Yeah, they're

666
00:37:46,050 --> 00:37:52,950
Dutch in her. Totally. She meant
so well. The Dutch. The Dutch

667
00:37:52,950 --> 00:37:56,190
are they basically are
essentially that way.

668
00:37:57,090 --> 00:38:02,700
The Dutch are getting screwed
the, you know, at first the

669
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:06,840
Minister of Finance vowed to her
boss. Who is this guy you just

670
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,540
want to slap the guy when you
see him? He's like, Oh, the

671
00:38:09,540 --> 00:38:12,900
credit crunch and it's going to
pass our country no problem.

672
00:38:12,930 --> 00:38:16,410
Boom right bailout of Fortis
boom bailout of ABN AMRO. I

673
00:38:16,410 --> 00:38:19,650
think it was three or 4 trillion
euros. And then it was like,

674
00:38:19,650 --> 00:38:22,710
Okay, we're all done. We're all
safe. We're all good. Now. Boom.

675
00:38:22,710 --> 00:38:26,640
Another 2 trillion euros just
yesterday lent to ABN AMRO. It's

676
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:26,880
just

677
00:38:27,090 --> 00:38:28,290
people are going huh.

678
00:38:29,580 --> 00:38:33,840
What's that? Meanwhile, in real
news, Adam curry Patricia still

679
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:40,740
divorced. Yeah, it's a microcosm
dude. It's a microcosm what

680
00:38:40,740 --> 00:38:44,040
happens if fractal Thank you.
It's exactly what it is.

681
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:49,020
And you happen to be part of it
now because of your, your, your,

682
00:38:49,050 --> 00:38:52,830
your, your I don't know what the
word is domestic issues, or

683
00:38:52,830 --> 00:38:56,550
whatever. There's a really good
word that I can't come up with.

684
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,550
I'll come up with it for the
next show. So anyway, so the

685
00:38:59,550 --> 00:39:02,520
swine flu stories are all over
the place and the one that

686
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,160
really got my attention this
morning somebody sent in I don't

687
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,190
have in front of me, so I can't
credit him. But I'll actually

688
00:39:08,190 --> 00:39:12,480
blog it and credit him that
might have it. The 600 million

689
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:16,530
doses of swine flu are needed
for the US I'm looking at this

690
00:39:16,710 --> 00:39:19,440
that's that's exactly what
they're doing in every other

691
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:23,760
country to for each individual
300 million people two doses

692
00:39:23,790 --> 00:39:25,950
forced vaccinations coming your
way.

693
00:39:27,510 --> 00:39:32,040
It's ridiculous. They're not
gonna pull it they're not gonna

694
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:32,760
get away with it.

695
00:39:32,790 --> 00:39:36,360
Well, do you mind if I play you
a little piece of video from

696
00:39:37,890 --> 00:39:41,910
this isn't official speaking on
behalf let me just get her name

697
00:39:41,910 --> 00:39:44,190
then I'll fast forward to the
relevant bit because she

698
00:39:44,190 --> 00:39:48,180
actually explains how the forced
vaccinations will take place

699
00:39:48,270 --> 00:39:52,830
what rights the US government
already has, as of today to

700
00:39:52,830 --> 00:39:56,340
enter your home to quarantine
you and to give you a forced

701
00:39:56,340 --> 00:39:59,220
vaccination. Are you interested
John and hearing how that works?

702
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:04,290
I'd rather talk about Britney
Spears. I'll play it.

703
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,590
This is Barbara loe, Fisher
President National Vaccine

704
00:40:07,590 --> 00:40:10,290
Information Centre which I'd
never heard of before.

705
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,890
My name is Barbara loe Fisher
and this is a vaccine commentary

706
00:40:13,890 --> 00:40:16,890
brought to you by the National
Vaccine Information Centre.

707
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:18,150
Could you just look that up,
John, while

708
00:40:18,150 --> 00:40:21,120
I'm playing this National
Vaccine centre was it against

709
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:21,300
the

710
00:40:21,540 --> 00:40:24,750
national OMA the national want
to get it again?

711
00:40:25,050 --> 00:40:28,350
My name is Barbara loe Fisher
and this is a vaccine commentary

712
00:40:28,350 --> 00:40:31,500
brought to you by the National
Vaccine Information Centre,

713
00:40:31,530 --> 00:40:36,180
the National Vaccine Information
Centre. This is from June 17.

714
00:40:36,210 --> 00:40:37,710
I'm just going to give you a
little bit of the intro then

715
00:40:37,710 --> 00:40:39,240
I'll fast forward to the good
bits.

716
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,480
Today I want to talk about swine
flu. Because every

717
00:40:42,510 --> 00:40:45,930
high kids today I want to talk
about swine flu bone surely in

718
00:40:45,930 --> 00:40:47,340
Belgium is suitable for sale.

719
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,130
Okay, we're being warned by
doctors at the World Health

720
00:40:50,130 --> 00:40:53,910
Organisation and the US Centres
for Disease Control, to worry a

721
00:40:53,910 --> 00:40:56,490
lot about the new influenza A
virus

722
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,940
when she does that. So Well
worry a lot as she emphasises

723
00:40:59,940 --> 00:41:01,140
that it's first identified

724
00:41:01,140 --> 00:41:06,000
in Mexico in April 2009 and is
being called the new swine flu.

725
00:41:06,240 --> 00:41:09,750
It's the new swine flu, by the
way, because swine flu already

726
00:41:09,750 --> 00:41:12,000
existed many years ago.

727
00:41:12,780 --> 00:41:14,370
Keep renaming it. Yeah.

728
00:41:14,430 --> 00:41:18,180
It's called the novel swine flu,
I think is what they call it,

729
00:41:18,180 --> 00:41:21,300
which kind of cracked me up.
Like yeah, novel. Indeed,

730
00:41:21,330 --> 00:41:24,750
the World Health Organisation
says that 76 countries have

731
00:41:24,750 --> 00:41:27,150
reported more than 35,000 cases,
right?

732
00:41:27,150 --> 00:41:29,160
So first, it goes through a
whole bunch of stats, and she

733
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:32,070
talks about all the scary stuff
and how many people have died at

734
00:41:32,070 --> 00:41:35,010
cetera, et cetera. But then she
gets into the real meat of this

735
00:41:35,010 --> 00:41:35,460
stuff,

736
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:39,480
is that there are signs people
born before 1957 may be

737
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:43,410
naturally protected. Oh, John,
you're safe and at lower risk of

738
00:41:43,410 --> 00:41:45,300
being infected. Why?

739
00:41:46,020 --> 00:41:51,480
Why? Because they're cranky Cox.
Those who don't, he'll pitch the

740
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:53,580
bitch and moan and we'll take
their vaccines as

741
00:41:54,630 --> 00:41:58,140
influenza strains that
circulated now caused by calls

742
00:41:58,140 --> 00:42:01,230
by US health officials to give
American children the first

743
00:42:01,230 --> 00:42:04,110
dose, okay, okay. Okay, here it
comes. Okay. Have been insisting

744
00:42:04,110 --> 00:42:07,980
for the past few years, that
every child from six months to

745
00:42:07,980 --> 00:42:12,990
age 18 must get an annual flu
shot. Second, there are now

746
00:42:12,990 --> 00:42:16,230
caused by calls by US health
officials to give American

747
00:42:16,230 --> 00:42:19,650
children the first doses of
experimental swine flu vaccines

748
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:21,150
in the school setting in the

749
00:42:21,150 --> 00:42:24,030
school setting. Okay, I just
want you to pay attention to

750
00:42:24,030 --> 00:42:27,870
what she is saying here. So
experimental flu vaccine in the

751
00:42:27,870 --> 00:42:30,900
school setting, which means if
your kid doesn't have a

752
00:42:30,900 --> 00:42:34,050
vaccination, no school for no
soup for you.

753
00:42:35,070 --> 00:42:37,830
This is because the response by
doctors at the World Health

754
00:42:37,830 --> 00:42:41,100
Organisation who immediately
went into high gear, within days

755
00:42:41,100 --> 00:42:44,970
of identifying the new swine flu
virus emerging out of Mexico,

756
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,810
declared a public health
emergency. Now they have raised

757
00:42:48,810 --> 00:42:52,260
the pandemic flu fear alert to
phase six, which is the

758
00:42:52,290 --> 00:42:56,670
equivalent of the US Homeland
Security's code red warning.

759
00:42:59,580 --> 00:43:03,750
Like that, can you believe that
shit, this is the equivalent of

760
00:43:03,750 --> 00:43:09,690
a code red. Code Red Code Red we
have cherished Code Red.

761
00:43:10,050 --> 00:43:12,750
Doctors at the CDC who followed
the lead of the World Health

762
00:43:12,750 --> 00:43:16,590
Organisation have done the same
and are exercising unprecedented

763
00:43:16,590 --> 00:43:20,220
power that can't listen to the
power was handed over to them

764
00:43:20,250 --> 00:43:25,170
after September 11 2001.
Whenever the CDC now Claire's

765
00:43:25,230 --> 00:43:28,500
declares a public health
emergency, that declaration

766
00:43:28,530 --> 00:43:30,990
allows the Food and Drug
Administration to permit

767
00:43:30,990 --> 00:43:35,460
emergency use authorization for
drug companies to fast track

768
00:43:35,550 --> 00:43:37,950
creation of experimental drugs
and vaccines.

769
00:43:37,980 --> 00:43:40,770
Okay, hold on a second. So first
of all, the Food and Drug

770
00:43:40,770 --> 00:43:44,610
Administration we know who has a
brand new director, Peggy is her

771
00:43:44,610 --> 00:43:48,870
nickname. She's the one who
immediately discredited Zai cam

772
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,920
and and basically bankrupted
that company, which is kind of

773
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:56,100
an organic type of thing that
doesn't even work as far as I'm

774
00:43:56,100 --> 00:43:59,910
concerned. John swears by it. So
the Food and Drug Administration

775
00:43:59,910 --> 00:44:05,070
now has unprecedented power to
not only Fast Track vaccinations

776
00:44:05,070 --> 00:44:07,200
being made, but listen to what
else they can do.

777
00:44:07,230 --> 00:44:11,820
Well, they said, go ahead. They
said Fast Track experimental

778
00:44:11,820 --> 00:44:12,630
drugs. Yeah,

779
00:44:12,660 --> 00:44:16,260
listen, listen to what listen,
I'm gonna just rewind it a

780
00:44:16,260 --> 00:44:18,090
little bit. This just will freak
out Food and

781
00:44:18,090 --> 00:44:22,260
Drug Administration to permit
emergency use authorization for

782
00:44:22,260 --> 00:44:25,800
drug companies to fast track
creation of experimental drugs

783
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:29,580
and vaccines that do not have to
be tested as thoroughly as

784
00:44:29,580 --> 00:44:33,180
vaccines that go through the
normal FDA licence a process

785
00:44:33,210 --> 00:44:34,080
which is already

786
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:38,070
so incredibly good, like
Gardasil, which is killing young

787
00:44:38,070 --> 00:44:38,730
girls.

788
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,360
In this case, Congress responded
to the public health emergency

789
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,630
declaration by giving a group of
drug companies $1 billion

790
00:44:45,630 --> 00:44:51,120
dollars $2 billion as track
experimental swine flu vaccines

791
00:44:51,420 --> 00:44:55,080
that may include whole life or
killed or genetically engineered

792
00:44:55,170 --> 00:44:56,820
human and animal viruses.

793
00:44:57,030 --> 00:45:01,710
Well genetically engineered
whole What was what would she

794
00:45:01,710 --> 00:45:02,130
say?

795
00:45:02,490 --> 00:45:07,440
Genetically Engineered human and
animal? Something here, viruses

796
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:11,580
that may include whole life or
killed or whole live or killed

797
00:45:11,610 --> 00:45:15,930
genetically engineered human and
animal viruses, chemicals, and

798
00:45:15,930 --> 00:45:19,500
potentially reactive oil based
adjuvants that manipulate the

799
00:45:19,500 --> 00:45:21,900
immune system to boost the
vaccines potency.

800
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:27,090
Whoa, whoa. So this is a
governmental directive. And I

801
00:45:27,090 --> 00:45:29,550
know exactly which one it is, by
the way, I'll tell you in a

802
00:45:29,550 --> 00:45:33,360
second. So that's what that's
just for the drug companies now.

803
00:45:33,390 --> 00:45:36,750
How about the authorities? How
about the federal rallies? Could

804
00:45:36,750 --> 00:45:38,070
you please tell us a mark.

805
00:45:38,220 --> 00:45:41,490
People who already have
sensitive immune systems, such

806
00:45:41,490 --> 00:45:44,250
as those with allergy and
autoimmune disorders may be at

807
00:45:44,250 --> 00:45:45,180
special risk

808
00:45:45,330 --> 00:45:48,990
allergies, so that's why I came
had to get kicked out. In some

809
00:45:48,990 --> 00:45:49,410
states

810
00:45:49,410 --> 00:45:52,410
like Massachusetts, public
health doctors have persuaded

811
00:45:52,410 --> 00:45:56,190
legislators to pass pandemic
influenza legislation that will

812
00:45:56,190 --> 00:45:59,790
allow state officials to enter
homes and businesses without the

813
00:45:59,790 --> 00:46:03,240
consent of occupants to
investigate and quarantine

814
00:46:03,240 --> 00:46:07,020
individuals without their
consent, to require licenced

815
00:46:07,020 --> 00:46:09,990
health care providers to give
citizens vaccines.

816
00:46:10,050 --> 00:46:14,370
There you go. There you go.
Forced vaccinate vaccination,

817
00:46:14,700 --> 00:46:18,840
they will bust your door down,
quarantine you put a big X on

818
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:20,460
the door and give you a shot.

819
00:46:20,700 --> 00:46:23,760
Make a clip of that prior where
they can bust into your house.

820
00:46:24,300 --> 00:46:26,340
Let's just hear it again. So
people can make their own clip

821
00:46:26,340 --> 00:46:26,880
here comes

822
00:46:26,910 --> 00:46:30,420
that seems that may include
whole life or killed or

823
00:46:30,420 --> 00:46:34,740
genetically engineered human and
animal viruses, chemicals, and

824
00:46:34,740 --> 00:46:38,070
potentially reactive oral based
adjuvants that literally

825
00:46:38,100 --> 00:46:40,470
what a reactive oral based
adjuvants

826
00:46:40,500 --> 00:46:42,120
I have no idea.

827
00:46:42,150 --> 00:46:44,790
I think we should look that up
because I bet you that's the key

828
00:46:44,790 --> 00:46:49,500
right there might be oral based
adjuvants. I'll give you some

829
00:46:49,500 --> 00:46:50,550
oral adjuvant baby

830
00:46:50,580 --> 00:46:53,370
populate the immune system to
boost the vaccines potency

831
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:54,960
manipulate the immune system

832
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:59,220
Whoa. People who already have
sensitive immune systems, such

833
00:46:59,220 --> 00:47:01,980
as those with allergy and
autoimmune disorders may be at

834
00:47:01,980 --> 00:47:06,300
special risk. In some states
like Massachusetts, public

835
00:47:06,300 --> 00:47:09,240
health doctors have persuaded
legislators to pass pandemic

836
00:47:09,240 --> 00:47:12,870
influenza legislation that will
allow state officials to enter

837
00:47:12,870 --> 00:47:16,710
homes and businesses without the
consent of occupants to

838
00:47:16,710 --> 00:47:19,890
investigate and quarantine
individuals without their

839
00:47:19,890 --> 00:47:23,970
consent to require licenced
health care providers to give

840
00:47:23,970 --> 00:47:27,960
citizens vaccines and a ban the
free assembly of citizens in the

841
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,810
state it Oh, I missed that

842
00:47:30,810 --> 00:47:33,330
the first time I didn't play it
the first time I was holding

843
00:47:33,330 --> 00:47:35,190
back I wanted to give you a
little cherry on

844
00:47:35,190 --> 00:47:40,170
top ban the what was that banned
that fruit assembly? Assembly.

845
00:47:40,380 --> 00:47:43,740
Assembly assembly Yeah, you
can't you This is so

846
00:47:43,740 --> 00:47:47,040
unconstitutional. Where is the
media covering this

847
00:47:47,070 --> 00:47:54,450
America? This is the We Are the
media John, we are the media

848
00:47:55,860 --> 00:47:58,590
covering this particular story.
It's ridiculous.

849
00:47:58,590 --> 00:48:00,480
It only has 50,000 Plus,

850
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,480
we can't say oh my gosh ban all
assembly.

851
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,180
Yeah, here it comes want to hear
it again? Because she's saying

852
00:48:06,180 --> 00:48:08,760
it and she doesn't even have a
huge rack to distract me

853
00:48:08,849 --> 00:48:12,629
to give citizens vaccines and
abandon the free assembly of

854
00:48:12,629 --> 00:48:13,709
citizens in the state.

855
00:48:14,910 --> 00:48:18,060
This isn't Massachusetts. Yeah.
The people in Massachusetts were

856
00:48:18,060 --> 00:48:20,880
Markey by the way as part of
that stupid bill that Waxman

857
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,760
wrote you people in
Massachusetts have got your

858
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:27,570
heads up your ass they have
these people pushing you around

859
00:48:27,570 --> 00:48:31,050
like this, Massachusetts, the
fact that this would even happen

860
00:48:31,140 --> 00:48:34,470
in Massachusetts and it's going
to be obviously the country wide

861
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,380
is unbelievable. And I sent you
a link from the National Vaccine

862
00:48:37,380 --> 00:48:41,700
Information Centre, which is a
which is and you should put it

863
00:48:41,700 --> 00:48:44,790
in the show notes which is the
vaccine harassment reporting

864
00:48:44,790 --> 00:48:46,380
form. It's a questionnaire

865
00:48:46,380 --> 00:48:49,110
let's see the personal
identifiable information

866
00:48:49,110 --> 00:48:51,450
collecting this questionnaire
will be kept confidential.

867
00:48:51,630 --> 00:48:53,310
Yes, that's why they want your
photo

868
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,480
please provide the following
contact information first name

869
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:01,890
last name street address views
on vaccine so what is the point

870
00:49:01,890 --> 00:49:03,180
of this? If you would

871
00:49:03,180 --> 00:49:05,940
like if you're against it so
they can isolate you and come

872
00:49:05,940 --> 00:49:10,740
over and bust into your house
and give it a shot? idea it's

873
00:49:10,740 --> 00:49:12,540
the stupidest thing I've ever
this whole thing is

874
00:49:13,230 --> 00:49:16,200
Listen, please describe what
happened in your own words in

875
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,320
the box below if you want what
you describe in the box below to

876
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:24,270
be publicly posted on the cry
for vaccine freedom wall on our

877
00:49:24,270 --> 00:49:32,280
website. Please check yes. Oh my
god. Oh my god. Hey bot botnet

878
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:36,450
dudes I know you're listening.
Take this shit down and vi c.org

879
00:49:36,690 --> 00:49:41,640
Immediately take this one down.
It's got to go down. Must go

880
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,760
down. Want to hear more of this?
You want to hear more of this

881
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:45,120
woman?

882
00:49:45,210 --> 00:49:48,810
Shouldn't be Yeah, yeah, she's
She says she's she's better than

883
00:49:48,810 --> 00:49:49,680
a good comedian.

884
00:49:50,430 --> 00:49:54,300
It is of course important for
pandemic influenza vaccines to

885
00:49:54,300 --> 00:49:56,880
be developed for voluntary use
by by the

886
00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:01,410
way, I hate to say it but you
know who as to who's funding all

887
00:50:01,410 --> 00:50:06,750
of this, this is all Al Gore's
VC fund. They're funding all

888
00:50:06,750 --> 00:50:10,170
these egg companies that are
fast tracking vaccines, and I

889
00:50:10,170 --> 00:50:10,890
can prove that

890
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:14,880
citizens. But what does this
declaration of a public health

891
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:18,840
emergency in the US mean for you
and your family? Well,

892
00:50:19,110 --> 00:50:21,960
you're going to die. That's what
it means. By the way, this is a

893
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:25,110
lot of this is under PD 51,
which a lot of people talk about

894
00:50:25,110 --> 00:50:28,350
presidential directive 51, of
which some parts are actually

895
00:50:28,470 --> 00:50:33,780
confidential kept top secret. So
this this will be national is

896
00:50:33,780 --> 00:50:36,360
not just Massachusetts, that's
just a trial balloon to see if

897
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:36,870
anyone

898
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:40,500
CFDs people of Massachusetts
have any balls whatsoever.

899
00:50:40,500 --> 00:50:42,030
That's what it's there for.
Exactly.

900
00:50:42,240 --> 00:50:46,320
It means that right now, you
need to become educated about

901
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:50,910
vaccination, influenza, vaccine
risks, and the public health

902
00:50:50,910 --> 00:50:52,080
laws in your state.

903
00:50:52,110 --> 00:50:53,850
Oh, I'm interested, tell me
more.

904
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:57,990
You need to find out what your
rights and options are under new

905
00:50:57,990 --> 00:51:01,710
public health laws that may
require you and your children to

906
00:51:01,710 --> 00:51:07,290
get vaccinated or be
quarantined. Go to www.nvic.org.

907
00:51:07,860 --> 00:51:12,180
That's the one you just
mentioned. Oh, my God. They're

908
00:51:12,180 --> 00:51:14,490
like, Hey, if you're really
worried about it, go to this

909
00:51:14,490 --> 00:51:17,610
website. Tell us who you are. So
we can pick you out first and

910
00:51:17,610 --> 00:51:20,460
put you in the containment areas
known as the FEMA camps. Learn

911
00:51:20,460 --> 00:51:24,150
more. Register now to attend the
Fourth International Public

912
00:51:24,150 --> 00:51:28,200
conference on vaccination
October 234. This fall in

913
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:29,520
Washington DC Yeah,

914
00:51:29,550 --> 00:51:33,570
let's not go there. So they can
sprinkle RFID dust on you and

915
00:51:33,570 --> 00:51:34,500
track your ass

916
00:51:34,530 --> 00:51:37,770
and organising your state to
protect your right to make

917
00:51:37,770 --> 00:51:38,610
voluntary that you

918
00:51:38,610 --> 00:51:40,380
know, John a year ago, way, way,
way,

919
00:51:40,380 --> 00:51:42,690
way back at play. Alright, I'm
sorry

920
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:48,780
for this fall in Washington, DC,
and help organising your state

921
00:51:48,930 --> 00:51:52,140
to protect your right to make
voluntary vaccination choices.

922
00:51:52,770 --> 00:51:53,190
Call

923
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:58,560
yours, but what do you do for
your right to make voluntary

924
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:02,250
vaccination choices? That kind
of counters everything she said

925
00:52:02,250 --> 00:52:04,200
before? Were they gonna force
you to have the vaccine?

926
00:52:04,530 --> 00:52:06,930
No, that's the whole point.
John, don't you understand how

927
00:52:06,930 --> 00:52:10,110
it works? So we're supposed to
scare you? And then hey, you

928
00:52:10,110 --> 00:52:12,780
know, before you get forced to
do this, you might as well go

929
00:52:12,780 --> 00:52:15,810
ahead and just get your vaccine
now can ask yourself

930
00:52:15,810 --> 00:52:17,970
that as you need us. Yes, that's

931
00:52:17,970 --> 00:52:19,110
what it's about elected

932
00:52:19,110 --> 00:52:22,950
to make public health laws that
govern you and your family. Make

933
00:52:22,950 --> 00:52:26,490
your voice heard. As the
Department of Homeland Security

934
00:52:26,490 --> 00:52:30,750
officials are declaring that any
disease outbreak is a matter of

935
00:52:30,750 --> 00:52:33,960
Homeland Security. US Department
of Defence

936
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:37,770
Agency is a nightmare. Did you
find out what this is by the way

937
00:52:37,770 --> 00:52:40,860
what this Vaccine Information
Centre is? Well that

938
00:52:41,789 --> 00:52:47,129
nonprofit organisation in
dic.org Ik have not figured out

939
00:52:47,129 --> 00:52:51,749
looking at it who's paying for
it somebody obviously. And so

940
00:52:51,749 --> 00:52:53,969
no, I don't know yet. They're
just gonna take maybe somebody

941
00:52:53,969 --> 00:52:56,159
out there can do a little
research. We can start with the

942
00:52:56,189 --> 00:52:59,909
who is search and see who runs
the thing in terms of the you

943
00:52:59,909 --> 00:53:02,249
know, it's probably covered up
by some, you know, one of these,

944
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:04,530
we got about 30 seconds left on
the clip. Let's see if there's

945
00:53:04,530 --> 00:53:05,490
any gems in here

946
00:53:05,519 --> 00:53:08,699
demonstrations as, quote, low
level terrorism.

947
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:13,050
What Hold on a second. What is
low level terrorism

948
00:53:13,110 --> 00:53:14,040
demonstrating

949
00:53:14,250 --> 00:53:18,690
security officials are declaring
that any disease outbreak is a

950
00:53:18,690 --> 00:53:22,890
matter of Homeland Security. As
Department of Defence officials

951
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:26,400
are defining public
demonstrations as quote, low

952
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:30,660
level terrorism, as plans are
being made to designate selected

953
00:53:30,660 --> 00:53:34,110
US airports as quarantine
centres through which all

954
00:53:34,110 --> 00:53:38,580
aeroplanes would be rerouted for
passenger health inspection. And

955
00:53:38,580 --> 00:53:42,180
as fast tracked experimental
pandemic flu vaccines are being

956
00:53:42,180 --> 00:53:46,230
created to be given first to
American children in schools. It

957
00:53:46,230 --> 00:53:49,860
is time for all of us. Whether
we are public health doctors

958
00:53:49,890 --> 00:53:53,040
addressing what we believe to be
a true public health emergency,

959
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:56,280
or whether we are ordinary
citizens simply trying to

960
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:59,580
protect our health and the
health of our children. It is up

961
00:53:59,580 --> 00:54:01,020
to all of us to ash sounds

962
00:54:01,020 --> 00:54:04,140
like a 1984 speech from a movie

963
00:54:04,170 --> 00:54:06,120
Duck and Cover.

964
00:54:06,510 --> 00:54:08,580
This is unbelievable.

965
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,640
Yeah, this is the Ministry of
Truth.

966
00:54:12,389 --> 00:54:15,509
This is the end of course,
nobody's covering it. No, of

967
00:54:15,509 --> 00:54:18,269
course not. Well, one is right
up there not even dinner not

968
00:54:18,269 --> 00:54:22,379
even trying to to hide any of
their intentions. It's just

969
00:54:22,379 --> 00:54:25,109
like, well, apparently nobody
really cares what we do. So

970
00:54:25,109 --> 00:54:26,849
let's just tell them what we're
going to do and see what

971
00:54:26,849 --> 00:54:29,399
happens. This is the old Green
Bay Packers approach showing

972
00:54:29,399 --> 00:54:30,929
what you're going to do and then
do it.

973
00:54:31,230 --> 00:54:35,730
Let's take a look at her at her
bio.

974
00:54:36,720 --> 00:54:38,370
Where she what's your what's
your name?

975
00:54:39,660 --> 00:54:42,840
Barbara loe Fisher. So she comes
across as someone who is who is

976
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,390
against all of this, but I'm not
buying it.

977
00:54:46,170 --> 00:54:49,200
I'm not against anything. She's
like a stooge or something

978
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:52,620
she's written while she's
written vaccines, autism and

979
00:54:52,620 --> 00:54:59,970
chronic inflammation from safety
last to children first. Yeah,

980
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:05,400
I'm very worried about people
like this. I really am

981
00:55:07,230 --> 00:55:10,500
one of his same person does this
food blog? I don't think so. No.

982
00:55:11,310 --> 00:55:15,030
Anyway, anyway, so look into
her. We'll look into it. Yeah,

983
00:55:15,060 --> 00:55:17,940
but as best we can, but what
else what is there to say other

984
00:55:17,940 --> 00:55:19,050
than what she said,

985
00:55:19,409 --> 00:55:23,009
Chris home and one of our
producers did send me a another

986
00:55:23,009 --> 00:55:26,369
interesting article from the New
York Times, of course, the paper

987
00:55:26,369 --> 00:55:30,989
of record. And I'll just read
you the opening paragraph. Of

988
00:55:30,989 --> 00:55:33,239
course, the link will be in the
show notes. There's a new flu

989
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:37,079
virus going around. It initially
looked quite lethal and caused

990
00:55:37,079 --> 00:55:40,469
panic. Now it is clear that it
has killed relatively few

991
00:55:40,469 --> 00:55:44,279
victims and many of those have
underlying conditions. It is

992
00:55:44,279 --> 00:55:48,329
particularly dangerous to be the
possessor of a pushed in nose

993
00:55:48,359 --> 00:55:54,239
that is to be a Pekinese, a pug
or Shih Tzu. It is the h3 and a

994
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:59,069
dog flu. Yeah, the dog flu the
virus scientists believe jumped

995
00:55:59,069 --> 00:56:02,099
from horses to dogs at least
five years ago, but has never

996
00:56:02,099 --> 00:56:06,689
infected a human yet. Yep. Last
week, United States Department

997
00:56:06,689 --> 00:56:09,239
of Agriculture announced that
had approved the first vaccine

998
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:12,449
for it so let's let's get rid of
all the dogs while we're at it.

999
00:56:13,470 --> 00:56:15,810
Yeah, because the dogs will keep
those guys from busting into

1000
00:56:15,810 --> 00:56:16,380
your house.

1001
00:56:16,410 --> 00:56:20,310
Exactly. Are you sending me
links I have to look at? Oh,

1002
00:56:20,310 --> 00:56:20,790
yeah, you

1003
00:56:20,790 --> 00:56:22,620
can look at him and you're
spiritually I don't want to

1004
00:56:22,620 --> 00:56:25,380
read that one. That'll get
that'll get me to to the head

1005
00:56:25,380 --> 00:56:31,680
for sure. Arkansas State Health
Department says mandatory

1006
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:35,580
vaccinations are constitutional.
Would you care to hear the call

1007
00:56:35,580 --> 00:56:37,680
that was made by Wait, wait,
wait, wait, who

1008
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:38,250
is this?

1009
00:56:39,630 --> 00:56:43,050
Arkansas State Health Department
says mandatory This is a phone

1010
00:56:43,050 --> 00:56:47,730
call on the 17th of June to
legal counsel at the Arkansas

1011
00:56:47,730 --> 00:56:52,530
State Health Department. It's
it's a minute or two it's about

1012
00:56:52,530 --> 00:56:56,130
two or three minutes long. Well,
hold on a second. It's loading.

1013
00:56:56,130 --> 00:56:59,310
It's one of those embedded video
things that takes forever to

1014
00:56:59,310 --> 00:57:03,000
frickin load. Someone who's very
smart, and it's almost like a

1015
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:05,370
prank call when you hear it.
When you hear the answers. It's

1016
00:57:05,370 --> 00:57:06,180
like huh.

1017
00:57:09,450 --> 00:57:11,370
I think we should all be make
everybody out there. Start

1018
00:57:11,370 --> 00:57:15,060
Recording your conversations
with all these people in charge,

1019
00:57:15,090 --> 00:57:17,730
call them up and ask them stupid
questions and see what we can

1020
00:57:17,730 --> 00:57:18,660
get out of it really

1021
00:57:18,660 --> 00:57:19,980
have to let me reload this.

1022
00:57:20,010 --> 00:57:23,190
Would they shoot me if I don't
take a shot? Yes, I'm afraid

1023
00:57:23,190 --> 00:57:26,580
they will. It's constitutional.
We allowed to shoot people won't

1024
00:57:26,580 --> 00:57:27,690
take the shot. It is

1025
00:57:27,690 --> 00:57:31,260
and it's all under PD 51 It is
completely constitutional.

1026
00:57:31,260 --> 00:57:34,830
Because you know, the President
Bush did all this. He gave

1027
00:57:34,830 --> 00:57:37,530
himself these huge powers. Okay,
it's loading. Here we go. Come

1028
00:57:37,530 --> 00:57:41,730
on. What is this Blip tv or
something? Why does it take so

1029
00:57:41,730 --> 00:57:44,010
long? Crap.

1030
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,370
So what else we get? What else?
What else loading? Well,

1031
00:57:47,910 --> 00:57:49,710
we'll get back to that. What
else do we have?

1032
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:54,180
We have a guy who's working on
showing it that you know, there.

1033
00:57:54,510 --> 00:57:59,220
Well, the taxation thing. Now
that the guy who sent us the

1034
00:57:59,250 --> 00:58:02,610
insider information about how
they're, you know, the way the

1035
00:58:02,610 --> 00:58:05,310
food is being manufactured, and
they're making the buy, it's a

1036
00:58:05,490 --> 00:58:09,000
it's a company that's making the
boxes, and how many they're

1037
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:11,940
making by the millions that I
mean, there's this is going

1038
00:58:11,940 --> 00:58:16,320
ahead as scheduled. Do you have
the the email I think I have? A

1039
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:18,810
you know, he's gonna send us
some photos of some of them

1040
00:58:19,890 --> 00:58:22,440
beforehand. And so when we get
up, we get more data, and we're

1041
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:24,630
gonna probably talk about it
more on Sunday. You know, we're

1042
00:58:24,630 --> 00:58:25,320
still here.

1043
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:30,690
Yeah. And again, if you read in
the Real News, Adam curry, John

1044
00:58:30,690 --> 00:58:33,630
C. Dvorak apparently shoot each
other with two dash

1045
00:58:34,590 --> 00:58:36,150
over some feud.

1046
00:58:37,620 --> 00:58:39,330
We were really angry at each
other.

1047
00:58:41,550 --> 00:58:47,880
Over a bagel at a restaurant.
Oh, no psychopaths. This was the

1048
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,730
oath. Wow, this was expected
says so and so.

1049
00:58:51,060 --> 00:58:53,700
I couldn't lie to you. I can
just see people doing interviews

1050
00:58:53,700 --> 00:58:56,160
like well, you know, Adam was
kind of weird, you know, and

1051
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:59,880
John is a weirdo. Yeah, John was
clearly, you know, stuck in his

1052
00:58:59,880 --> 00:59:02,280
sub personality he couldn't get
out of you know, they didn't

1053
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:05,250
call him the cranky geek for
nothing. I mean, hey, go figure.

1054
00:59:05,250 --> 00:59:07,530
Right. You know, of course,
these guys would go and shoot

1055
00:59:07,530 --> 00:59:11,190
each other in the head. So by

1056
00:59:11,190 --> 00:59:13,800
the way, we do well, we would
appreciate now that you're

1057
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:19,020
hearing this kind of stuff, we
would appreciate the some, some

1058
00:59:19,020 --> 00:59:24,600
assistance insofar as we're are
publicly supported. We need to

1059
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:28,470
pay overhead among other things,
and we would like some donations

1060
00:59:28,830 --> 00:59:32,010
to vorak.org/nad. We have a
different different bunch of

1061
00:59:32,010 --> 00:59:34,740
different programmes available.
And I think the no agenda

1062
00:59:34,740 --> 00:59:40,800
library.com still has the same
page up. And so if you can give

1063
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:44,790
we'll have a list of people who
were the $1,500 donors on

1064
00:59:44,790 --> 00:59:50,130
Sunday, and we have a few and we
would appreciate more if you

1065
00:59:50,130 --> 00:59:53,340
can, you know, help us continue
doing this kind of programming

1066
00:59:53,340 --> 00:59:56,760
because you're not going to get
you're not getting this on all

1067
00:59:56,760 --> 01:00:00,000
things considered. You're not
getting this you're not getting

1068
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:01,860
Is anywhere. I mean, you're
definitely not gonna get in the

1069
01:00:01,860 --> 01:00:04,830
newspapers because they're part
of the whatever's going on part

1070
01:00:04,830 --> 01:00:07,380
of the system. But this is like
it's good information. I think

1071
01:00:07,590 --> 01:00:10,920
it's entertaining. Anyway, hold
on, John.

1072
01:00:10,950 --> 01:00:15,990
Yes. And now back to real news.
And of course, this is the stuff

1073
01:00:16,230 --> 01:00:19,140
you get in the mainstream media
Gordon Ramsay's Kitchen

1074
01:00:19,140 --> 01:00:23,580
Nightmare just got worse as
profits fall by 87%.

1075
01:00:25,230 --> 01:00:29,880
But that by the guy who is
targeted, oh, dude. This is, by

1076
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:33,150
the way, one of the reasons you
want to be publicly supported by

1077
01:00:33,150 --> 01:00:36,000
people who are, you know, fellow
travellers, and so far as they

1078
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:38,850
want to hear the truth. That's
why we do this, by the way,

1079
01:00:38,850 --> 01:00:41,940
don't have sponsors. I mean,
Ramsey essentially was set to

1080
01:00:41,940 --> 01:00:45,960
put himself into a situation by
running, you know, by putting

1081
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:50,640
his father in law in charge of
everything, and then screwing

1082
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:53,610
over his father in law's
daughter by having an affair

1083
01:00:53,610 --> 01:00:56,220
with somebody else. And that
right, how does that happen? As

1084
01:00:56,490 --> 01:01:00,780
soon as that news got out? All
hell broke loose. Gee, wonder

1085
01:01:00,780 --> 01:01:01,710
how that happens.

1086
01:01:02,940 --> 01:01:07,350
I think that the I think that
phone call has been jacked or

1087
01:01:07,350 --> 01:01:11,520
hacked or something. It's not
loading at all anymore. So okay,

1088
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:11,640
well,

1089
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:13,740
you want we can play it on
Sunday, we can play it on so we

1090
01:01:13,740 --> 01:01:16,020
got more stuff to talk about
this, this whole thing.

1091
01:01:16,350 --> 01:01:20,580
There was obviously, from a
concern pilot, there's something

1092
01:01:20,580 --> 01:01:23,160
going on in aviation. And this
link will also be in the show

1093
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:28,260
notes that no agenda media.com
for private aviation in the

1094
01:01:28,260 --> 01:01:31,860
United States, which is pretty
much there's only half a million

1095
01:01:31,860 --> 01:01:36,210
private pilots. It's not a huge
group of people. And of course,

1096
01:01:36,210 --> 01:01:39,690
we view our aircraft kind of
like RVs, right. You know, you

1097
01:01:39,690 --> 01:01:43,020
get in your aeroplane you fly
somewhere and you do whatever

1098
01:01:43,020 --> 01:01:49,140
you want to do. So now the rules
are changing. Just a hair. John,

1099
01:01:49,140 --> 01:01:53,490
on the speakers, I'm really
getting some slap back here. The

1100
01:01:53,490 --> 01:01:58,500
rules are changing. Where Gosh,
everything is loading weird. Now

1101
01:01:58,530 --> 01:02:01,920
you know what they're on to me.
If all of a sudden that

1102
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:07,470
connection breaks, run over here
and get this recording. Oh, no,

1103
01:02:07,500 --> 01:02:12,210
John, here. Okay. Yeah, we're
back. Wow, wow, there's so on.

1104
01:02:12,990 --> 01:02:15,600
All of a sudden, everything is
gone. And my router is going

1105
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:18,900
down? I'm like, Okay. I think we
got a little too close to the

1106
01:02:18,900 --> 01:02:19,890
truth there, Johnny. Boy.

1107
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:23,160
Well, you did your last comment
that I heard was the rules are

1108
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:26,100
changing regarding that. By the
way. I think when we get

1109
01:02:26,100 --> 01:02:28,680
interrupted like that, that I
that particular interruption,

1110
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:31,650
I'm absolutely convinced was
part of it. When you tried

1111
01:02:31,650 --> 01:02:34,890
downloading that clip, yeah, you
got you got sent to one of those

1112
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:38,520
edge technology sites that can't
deliver and it talks to the

1113
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:40,590
router and sends it bad
information and kills the

1114
01:02:40,590 --> 01:02:42,390
router. This is what I've been
really

1115
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:45,360
trying it again, just to see if
they No, no, no, don't

1116
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:46,590
try until we finish the show.

1117
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:52,080
Are we on the air at all? We may
be finished regardless, John,

1118
01:02:52,530 --> 01:02:57,900
like real finished, you and I
finished done? It was I used to

1119
01:02:57,900 --> 01:03:00,570
had that. So tell me about this.
So there's an edge type thing

1120
01:03:00,570 --> 01:03:02,160
that what do you say the most of
these

1121
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:04,980
two, most of the streaming
technologies out there use one

1122
01:03:04,980 --> 01:03:08,700
form of edge technology or
another to keep it which is not

1123
01:03:08,730 --> 01:03:11,820
appropriate necessarily for
streams? Because what happens is

1124
01:03:11,820 --> 01:03:15,090
the you know, it's like Occupy,
for example, has, you know,

1125
01:03:15,090 --> 01:03:17,160
you're not when you're talking
to one of the sites that's using

1126
01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:20,730
occupy stated this is mostly for
foreign users, you know, you you

1127
01:03:20,730 --> 01:03:23,490
get to talk to the edge of the
internet rather than to the site

1128
01:03:23,490 --> 01:03:26,550
itself. And it seems to give you
a better response time and

1129
01:03:26,550 --> 01:03:29,160
people stay on the site longer
and all these other things. The

1130
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:32,040
problem is, is that some of
these technologies, and there's

1131
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:36,810
lots of them, are using newer
protocols that aren't recognised

1132
01:03:36,810 --> 01:03:41,010
necessarily by some routers. And
so your router gets one of these

1133
01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:44,760
things to say, well, I want you
to do silver bullet. Yes, it

1134
01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:47,280
says okay, well give me that.
Give me there. What do you think

1135
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:50,130
here's your here's, here's a,
here's a TED send me this act,

1136
01:03:50,130 --> 01:03:52,860
you know, to this, and then it
will be on our way and the

1137
01:03:52,860 --> 01:03:55,170
router says, I don't know what
you're talking about.

1138
01:03:55,260 --> 01:03:57,900
And then oops, I just got to
freak out. Well, here right

1139
01:03:58,620 --> 01:04:00,900
here, I have that call. I have
that call loading

1140
01:04:00,930 --> 01:04:03,180
blocks to router out and then
the next thing you know, if you

1141
01:04:03,180 --> 01:04:05,580
don't end it just screws you
over. It's unbelievable. We'll

1142
01:04:05,580 --> 01:04:08,670
do the aviation stuff on on
Sunday. I just want to play this

1143
01:04:08,670 --> 01:04:13,080
call because it's just so
outrageously Cool. Okay. There

1144
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:16,890
we go. So again, this is a phone
call to the Arkansas State

1145
01:04:16,890 --> 01:04:17,790
Health Department.

1146
01:04:23,130 --> 01:04:25,470
We're waiting for someone to
pick up at the Arkansas

1147
01:04:25,470 --> 01:04:28,470
Department of Health legal
counsel regarding forced

1148
01:04:28,470 --> 01:04:29,280
vaccination.

1149
01:04:29,430 --> 01:04:32,550
Robert myopia. Hi, Mr. Beck.
Yes, sir.

1150
01:04:32,610 --> 01:04:37,800
Oh, hi. I was given your number
by Alicia I had some questions.

1151
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:39,030
I left a message I think

1152
01:04:39,090 --> 01:04:41,400
by the way, the way they got
this guy does it perfectly well.

1153
01:04:41,430 --> 01:04:43,950
You got to sound like a like a
dipshit when you do these calls

1154
01:04:43,950 --> 01:04:44,850
called Friday

1155
01:04:45,750 --> 01:04:50,100
after message but just that I'd
call you back. I'm looking into

1156
01:04:50,100 --> 01:04:55,740
the the vaccination refusal
forms. And I'm trying to find

1157
01:04:55,740 --> 01:05:00,840
out what the I talked to a
lawyer and it's It seems that

1158
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:06,630
that is an application for a
waiver. Is that correct? Do you

1159
01:05:06,630 --> 01:05:07,620
know about these forms?

1160
01:05:08,370 --> 01:05:11,220
Well, I don't know that it's an
application for a waiver, the

1161
01:05:11,220 --> 01:05:13,620
waiver will be granted if you
just fill it out correctly.

1162
01:05:14,490 --> 01:05:18,330
Okay, yeah. But it's basically,
it's not on the website. So I

1163
01:05:18,330 --> 01:05:22,560
have to call in to get it sent
to me. And then the way it

1164
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:26,400
reads, if you read it, it says,
I then fill it out, but and then

1165
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:31,800
I send it in as a request for
the waiver. And I'm not quite

1166
01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:35,760
understanding that. That's what

1167
01:05:36,060 --> 01:05:41,040
I think what you're saying it
will always be valid, if you've

1168
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:44,160
done it correctly. And if it's
done, I'll give you a little

1169
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:45,450
history on please.

1170
01:05:45,630 --> 01:05:47,610
Sure. If you got if you got
time, I'd like to hear it

1171
01:05:47,610 --> 01:05:50,220
because you're getting some
feedback that

1172
01:05:51,270 --> 01:05:55,890
like it's cumbersome, or it
shouldn't be that difficult.

1173
01:05:56,430 --> 01:06:01,500
What happened prior to the
passage of that law, which I

1174
01:06:01,500 --> 01:06:07,740
believe took went into effect in
2003. Prior to that, the only

1175
01:06:07,740 --> 01:06:11,640
exemptions that were available
in Arkansas, were religious

1176
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:15,810
exemption. That was very
constricted as far as who it

1177
01:06:15,810 --> 01:06:19,590
applied to. And you could have a
medical exemption.

1178
01:06:20,730 --> 01:06:23,640
This is a big deal, actually.
Because if you do not want to

1179
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:26,820
take if you don't want to be
forced with any type of

1180
01:06:26,820 --> 01:06:29,910
vaccination, it's true that in
most states, you could only get

1181
01:06:29,910 --> 01:06:33,870
it on religious grounds or
medical grounds. And it's

1182
01:06:33,900 --> 01:06:36,150
apparently it's gotten very
difficult and

1183
01:06:36,150 --> 01:06:41,040
people could get that you're
talking for children? Yes. Okay.

1184
01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:44,340
Well, I'm talking for adults to
hear well, it's not just limited

1185
01:06:44,340 --> 01:06:45,870
to children didn't matter. I

1186
01:06:45,870 --> 01:06:47,730
mean, as far as the site, it's
the same thing, though.

1187
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:51,630
Well, no, I can. I can refuse a
vaccination whenever I want. I

1188
01:06:51,630 --> 01:06:52,200
mean, I assume

1189
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:54,840
you're Are you going into
college? Or is this what you're

1190
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:56,070
asking? Or what's the No, I'm

1191
01:06:56,070 --> 01:07:00,000
concerned about mandatory
vaccinations for the swine flu.

1192
01:07:01,950 --> 01:07:04,470
Well, there is no mandatory
vaccination for the swine flu.

1193
01:07:04,500 --> 01:07:07,890
Well, if you read the CDC read
that differently, I'm afraid.

1194
01:07:08,850 --> 01:07:09,360
Oh, nothing.

1195
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:10,740
There couldn't be in the future.

1196
01:07:10,980 --> 01:07:13,410
Exactly. That's my point.
Nothing.

1197
01:07:13,530 --> 01:07:15,750
This is a lawyer he's talking to
well,

1198
01:07:16,830 --> 01:07:19,290
and that's very, I mean, that's
constitutional. There's no doubt

1199
01:07:19,290 --> 01:07:19,650
about

1200
01:07:19,950 --> 01:07:21,720
well, there are a lot of things
that constitutional that are

1201
01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:23,820
being done right now. So did you
just hear

1202
01:07:23,820 --> 01:07:26,580
that? He said it's
constitutional? Yeah. Well,

1203
01:07:26,580 --> 01:07:26,880
where's

1204
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:29,760
it in the Constitution about
vaccines? See, it's odd.

1205
01:07:31,950 --> 01:07:36,870
This is law that goes back. 100
years?

1206
01:07:36,900 --> 01:07:40,920
Whoa, John, please get the
Constitution it goes back 100

1207
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:41,550
years.

1208
01:07:43,980 --> 01:07:49,710
Vaccine vaccinations are,
they're illegal and they're on

1209
01:07:49,710 --> 01:07:52,200
the Supreme Court. There's no
doubt about it,

1210
01:07:52,410 --> 01:07:54,930
that you're saying there's
explanations can be made

1211
01:07:54,930 --> 01:08:00,210
mandatory? Absolutely.
Absolutely. Absolutely. Okay.

1212
01:08:00,750 --> 01:08:04,560
Because you're not only
endangering, it's not as if, if

1213
01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:08,400
you refuse a vaccine, it's only
going to affect you. So could

1214
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:10,800
affect everyone that you come in
contact with?

1215
01:08:11,250 --> 01:08:14,130
Well, that's, that's an insane
way to look at it from where I'm

1216
01:08:14,430 --> 01:08:16,830
from the perspective that I'm
coming from. Because what

1217
01:08:16,830 --> 01:08:19,920
perspective are you looking at
it from? Well, I'm wondering why

1218
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:24,930
the Baxter issue has not been
put in as part of this paperwork

1219
01:08:24,930 --> 01:08:29,550
here. Where it shows, you know,
research on you know, what a

1220
01:08:29,550 --> 01:08:32,730
vaccine Baxter issue? I'm not
sure what that is. That's the

1221
01:08:32,730 --> 01:08:39,690
one more they had avian flu
virus in the flu vaccine. I

1222
01:08:39,690 --> 01:08:46,860
don't know about inside 18
different countries. Some, some

1223
01:08:47,130 --> 01:08:49,140
people tested it on some we need

1224
01:08:49,140 --> 01:08:51,870
more calls like this, John, this
is the kind of stuff our

1225
01:08:51,870 --> 01:08:54,480
audience should be doing. This
is fantastic. This is this is

1226
01:08:54,480 --> 01:08:57,540
just fabulous stuff a little bit
more. I mean, it's long. We

1227
01:08:57,540 --> 01:08:57,750
can't

1228
01:08:58,050 --> 01:08:59,400
play another minute. I'm liking
it

1229
01:08:59,459 --> 01:09:02,009
animals before they administered
it and caught it.

1230
01:09:02,639 --> 01:09:05,489
Well, I mean, it's obvious
security opposed to vaccines,

1231
01:09:05,489 --> 01:09:06,539
but I mean for Yeah,

1232
01:09:06,540 --> 01:09:08,970
and we've got your number we're
coming. Did you hear a knock at

1233
01:09:08,970 --> 01:09:11,400
the door? You better open it
because we're going to get you

1234
01:09:11,460 --> 01:09:12,990
I have the choice. I am an
American.

1235
01:09:13,650 --> 01:09:17,670
Surely you're aware of the great
advances in the lives that have

1236
01:09:17,670 --> 01:09:19,320
been saved due to the VAX? Oh,
we've

1237
01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:21,690
saved so many lives due to
vaccine.

1238
01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:25,380
Oh, no, not at all. Actually,
that's a misnomer. The

1239
01:09:25,380 --> 01:09:26,130
eradication

1240
01:09:26,130 --> 01:09:28,410
of smallpox didn't doesn't why
not?

1241
01:09:28,620 --> 01:09:34,320
I'm not I'm more interested in
more recent things like but I'm

1242
01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:35,550
not I'm not trying to get into

1243
01:09:36,509 --> 01:09:38,279
flu is not smallpox.

1244
01:09:38,849 --> 01:09:42,119
Oh my goodness. This is this is
how they do it. Well, dude, are

1245
01:09:42,119 --> 01:09:44,579
you against polio, now you're
against polio. You want everyone

1246
01:09:44,579 --> 01:09:45,539
to have polio,

1247
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:47,880
do it protect myself, if you
understand

1248
01:09:48,330 --> 01:09:53,400
and I'm trying to do is get to
see exactly where you stand. I

1249
01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:55,770
mean, you do. American and

1250
01:09:55,770 --> 01:09:59,370
I I have a legal right to make
my own decision. Whether or not

1251
01:09:59,370 --> 01:10:00,480
somebody sticks in You and me?

1252
01:10:00,930 --> 01:10:03,540
Well, not not wanting to not
true people.

1253
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:10,860
I'm sorry. That's not true. No.
You gotta be kidding me. No, you

1254
01:10:10,860 --> 01:10:13,950
can really believe that. As a
lawyer, you believe that I don't

1255
01:10:13,950 --> 01:10:20,280
have the right to deny a
vaccination? Absolutely. That's

1256
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:23,160
quite an interesting concept.
And you're I don't know what I

1257
01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:23,520
don't know why.

1258
01:10:24,270 --> 01:10:27,270
what's your what's your problem?
Son? You got something to hide?

1259
01:10:27,300 --> 01:10:30,900
Maybe we should drop on by Alou?
I

1260
01:10:31,650 --> 01:10:35,820
don't know why I'm having a
problem with it. No, okay. The

1261
01:10:35,820 --> 01:10:39,570
law is, have you heard of
autism? The Supreme Court

1262
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:42,390
made it very clear. And they've
it's been made clear several

1263
01:10:42,390 --> 01:10:43,950
times that there's no doubt
about it.

1264
01:10:44,580 --> 01:10:47,010
Is that true? John has the
Supreme Court made this very

1265
01:10:47,010 --> 01:10:47,370
clear.

1266
01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:49,890
That's what I'm why you're doing
this. I'm looking trying to find

1267
01:10:49,890 --> 01:10:53,370
that on the on the web, I can
find nothing. And maybe some of

1268
01:10:53,370 --> 01:10:55,830
our listeners will over the next
few days can find the Supreme

1269
01:10:55,830 --> 01:11:00,150
Court case that that makes flu
vaccines mandatory at the

1270
01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:03,030
request of the GM, I'm not
seeing it, I'm not fine.

1271
01:11:03,060 --> 01:11:06,390
And you should look at
presidential directive 51. That

1272
01:11:06,390 --> 01:11:08,550
seems to be the big one that
everyone's talking about that

1273
01:11:08,550 --> 01:11:12,630
it's all it's all in there. So
if you want to hear more of

1274
01:11:12,630 --> 01:11:16,860
that, elicit in the show notes
and listen to the whole thing.

1275
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:20,250
And I would like to say I was
asked you know, we pretty much

1276
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:24,270
so of course this show brings no
money in the kitty for me. VO

1277
01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:29,340
both of us work for me VO and I
did want to say that if you want

1278
01:11:29,340 --> 01:11:34,140
to become a producer. And not
only create great programming,

1279
01:11:34,140 --> 01:11:38,880
like no agenda or shit, if you
want to talk about knitting, we

1280
01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:43,710
got some pretty cool tools. And
you can make actual money. Ain't

1281
01:11:43,710 --> 01:11:45,120
that true, John? Yeah,

1282
01:11:45,150 --> 01:11:49,710
you can. And by the way, we do
use the bvo services, yes to do

1283
01:11:49,710 --> 01:11:53,850
the show. And although they
benefit by our numbers, but they

1284
01:11:53,850 --> 01:11:57,360
don't, actually, they're
probably you know, luckily Adams

1285
01:11:57,360 --> 01:12:01,830
the President so we can do
anything we want. But we still

1286
01:12:01,830 --> 01:12:05,130
need your donations to keep us
alive. That's it literally did

1287
01:12:05,130 --> 01:12:06,600
the word.org/na

1288
01:12:07,170 --> 01:12:10,590
coming to you from an
undisclosed last location on the

1289
01:12:10,620 --> 01:12:13,770
internet that sometimes works if
we're talking about things that

1290
01:12:13,770 --> 01:12:16,470
aren't evil. I'm Adam curry,

1291
01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:18,150
to INCRA. Net

1292
01:12:18,150 --> 01:12:18,960
increment.

1293
01:12:19,230 --> 01:12:23,160
I'm in northern Silicon Valley.
I'm John C. Dvorak and we

1294
01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:27,390
will talk to you again, this
coming Sunday. Not quite sure

1295
01:12:27,390 --> 01:12:30,120
what time because I'll be in
transit, but we'll work

1296
01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:33,540
something out for sure. And you
can hear more of this right

1297
01:12:33,540 --> 01:12:35,310
here. On no agenda.