Of course it's dupe. Hello, can you hear us as Adam Adam curry,
John C. Dvorak.
It's Thursday, July 23 2009. Time for your Gitmo nation audio
publication episode 115. This is no agenda coming to you from the
minimum security containment cell. It's where you find the
crackpot command centre and get mo nation west from an
undisclosed location in San Francisco. I'm Adam curry,
and from a foggy northern Silicon Valley on John C. Dvorak
is Greg Baden Buzzkill.
Yes, good morning, John.
So you're in the containment cell today?
Yes, I am. The minimum security containment cell is good. And
feeling mighty fine about it. My friend,
you should probably look at check those doors, the front
door especially for solenoids. What's the solenoid? To think
that you know, they can push a button and then magnetically Oh,
click
Close. Yeah. Well, they aren't. Yeah. That's a good point. Thank
you.
Yeah, I was looking at I had more concerned. I think more on
these terms. I was on Monday, I took my daughter over to
Alcatraz with our friend who keeps apparently inviting you
to Oh, Ranger Craig. Yeah, I ended up
Craig Wright showed us around and he gave us the tour of the
back tour. In other words, we didn't stuff you don't normally
see. Yeah. And one of the things you learn is that prisoners who
have time on their hands come up with the craziest ideas
of how to escape or just craziest ideas in general.
Yeah. Like, well, like spending seven or eight years with a
spoon. no disputing thing is overrated. This is this is more
weird. spending seven or eight years with dental floss and
tooth powder to grind through one of the bars.
Oh my god. And how far did they get that apparently
with the old original bars that they used to have, which were
flat steel, and so they came up with the round steel hardened,
somebody actually busted through one of them.
Oh my god after seven years of sawing with dental floss.
Spotters do you need to do? Of course, of course you do. Oh,
man. Hey, memo to self. Let's not get stuck in Alcatraz. That
sucks. Oh, boy. Did you see our president last night?
No, I missed him. Was he in town? No. Yeah. You know that,
that Obama has done more Prime Time speeches to the public in
six months than George Bush did in eight years. Presidents very
rarely do him at all. I mean, he doesn't, you know, you do one
about one every couple of years when something's important. But
Obama is putting himself on TV over and over again. And the
thing is apparently this last time when he gave his healthcare
speech, the network's are getting reluctant to put him on.
Yeah, except this time, they had no reluctance whatsoever. And of
course, I also received an email from our president. yesterday.
Yeah, it was it yesterday morning.
Remind you on his email? Yeah. Well, rare few.
Well check this out. Because, of course, this is the, you know,
the from is President Barack Obama, and the actual email
addresses info@messages.whitehouse.gov.
But this was a very interesting salutation as he starts off by
saying, Dear friend, which I just find some air friends.
insulting. I mean, I'm a citizen, you know, dear
American, or fellow American fellow fellow citizen of Gitmo
nation, you know. And, of course, the title of the email
is tune in. And as you read this, we're closer than ever to
passing comprehensive health insurance reform that benefits
American families and small businesses. Despite all the back
and forth and news right now, it's important to understand
just how far we've come in this challenging process. That's why
I'm holding a press conference tonight at 8pm Eastern Time, and
writing to let everyone know where we are, what's ahead and
why health insurance reform is so important. So I was lucky
enough to be able to be home at five get my nation West. Time to
actually tune in and hold on one second, you leaving? No. And I
actually fell asleep during the first half of the I swear I was
so tired. That's the danger. And I'm sitting there
that you somehow got transferred into your brain during these
moments and see,
I don't know and what was he planting in my subconscious
while I was drifting off into sleep? I couldn't understand a
word of what he was saying, dude. It was literally like,
huh, of what And it was one of these typical news conferences
that he does where he comes out. And now of course, he you know,
he's smart. He's reading the teleprompter that's right in the
middle, the room, it's a huge LCD screen, you can actually see
it in a couple of the shots later on. And, and watching it
in, in HD is phenomenal, because you literally see the screen
reflecting in his iris cow. And you see his his eyes darting
back and forth, yes, that they do, because the letters are too
wide or something like that. And you literally can see the
reflection in his eyes, and you see a reading, because the shot
is reasonably close up. And then he does this little introductory
thing. And then he takes 11 or 12 questions, which are all pre
processed preset up, he knows exactly who is going to call on
he knows where they're sitting. And of course, Helen is there.
Now she's almost like a, she's rocking back and forth like Bill
Gates these days. She's like sitting in the front row going
like he'll never call on me, he'll never call me. And what
was interesting to see how, you know, you really recognise how
this thing is so set up today. So that would have been tomorrow
for yesterday's news conference. The President is visiting the
Cleveland Clinic, I guess, is it what's the name of the famous
clinic in Cleveland? I don't know. Oh, there's some Okay.
Well, there's some Cleveland Clinic
mayo, is it? No, no. Maybe it's Minneapolis. Yeah.
So I guess the the Cleveland Clinic is in on the game. And so
he calls on the guy from the Cleveland real insider like jaw.
You know how what a setup is that? It's like, okay, I get it,
you know, call on that guy get it all prepped for tomorrow. And
it was, it was just it was weird. It was really a very
weird press conference. And he also slipped a couple of times
on his answers. Instead of saying we we saved or created
jobs. It's like we saved and created jobs. Like no, you
didn't. I think last time I check, we're still losing jobs.
Yeah, I don't see where there's any created, which reminds me
jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. Nancy Pelosi,
so I took that clip, and I realised there was something
missing from it. And that was a bunch of kids.
Perfect. I love it. Because when you sent me the clip, I'm like,
okay, it'd be the jobs clip. And they heard the kids at the end,
like, yeah, nice. So play it at will, whenever I feel like it.
So you know, the only thing I could really do, and I've spent
the past couple days doing this, as I just went to went ahead and
tried to read this bill, that they're talking about this
health care reform bill. And it's, well, I'm not a lawyer.
And I'm, you know, I don't even think a lawyer could understand
this. It's kind of It reminds me a lot of the Lisbon Treaty,
which I also read in its entirety, because you have to go
to all these other bills and laws, and you have to find all
this other stuff, because it literally, yeah, they're all
cross referenced. Yeah. And it's not just cross referencing, but
this bill, which is HR 3200. Literally changes other laws,
like the IRS code, and yeah,
yeah, so it's not just a new piece of legislation. It's
actually changing old legislation. And the thing right
off the bat that just really frightened me, is, and I'm
looking at it right now. I think I sent you a link, John, HR
3200. Yeah. And right at the top. So it gives you the purpose
of this bill, and I'll just quote this to provide affordable
quality health care for all Americans and reduce the growth
in health care spending. And for other purposes. I'm like, what
other purposes? What other purposes? Isn't? Isn't the bill,
just about the bill? What kind of hedge is that? So, you know,
that, of course, makes me incredibly suspicious.
Yeah, well, yeah. And well, you should be the thing that got me
about that bill is that is the fact that they want everybody
into it. There's a bunch of like a new enforcement agency, and
there's a new health commissioner, it's gonna get
paid as much as a it with a huge staff that's gonna get paid as
much as a cabinet member in Obama's cabinet. Oh, surely
figure out the salaries. And so the seller is going to be the
same as this person that you know, so I had to go check to
their salary and their salary. If you look on, you know, it
says it's gonna be the same as this, but you have to keep going
and going and going until you find out that the salaries
$191,300 per person, for the for the head guy. And then the way
it looks, it looks as if everybody just under that person
is getting just a shade less. But you know, I was looking at
the different salaries. You know, Pelosi, for example, the
Speaker of the House, she gets $221,000 and Obama gets $400,000
As the President, and I think Wait a minute. The salaries to
begin with are bogus. Pelosi gets $221,000 But she has
seven 730 She gets a jet. Hello?
Do any of these people ever drive their own car? Do they pay
it when Obama has a dinner at the White House for 100? People?
Is it coming out of his out of his salary? Like it would be
with you? If you give a dinner for 100? People?
No, of course not.
It's a basic company. It's just just a fear here's put it in the
bank, because you're not going to have to spend a nickel. Yeah,
I mean, that how's that account is anything that's not what the
true salary is, if you're going to look at Pelosi is true salary
with the 757 cars and $30,000 to fly across the country, by one
estimate. If you're gonna, and she's going back and forth, back
and forth, and back for she's making millions of dollars per
year, she's got limo, she's got free food. She's got a 757?
Because she doesn't want to stop.
Yes, she's got free free housing. I think she's got a
house. In DC. Yeah, of course, of course.
Well, I was concerned about the fact that in that bill, there's
a non compliance cause clause for employers who which amounts
to $100 a day fines plus probably interest, if they don't
insure their employees?
Yeah, well, so Well, yeah, this is, uh, this is the thing,
that's kind of weird. If you have a, I'm a small business
owner, essentially, although I kind of fall outside of what is
deemed small business up to 200. And if you have a payroll of up
to $250,000, which let's face it, that's like four guys. You
know, is that how many people would that's about right? If I
four or five people, then then you're kind of you're exempt
from all of this. But if you have a payroll over $250,000,
which is basically me, vO is a good example.
So you found that I was looking for that number, I couldn't find
it in the bill. If you don't,
if you don't provide health care. Now we do provide health
care, if you don't provide health care, then there was an
automatic 8% tax on additional payroll tax, which of course
comes right out of the workers wages. Now that's okay. Because
we provide health care. The problem is that the government
now has, according to this bill now has the right to audit our
books, whenever they feel like it, to make sure that we're
actually doing everything on the up and up regarding health care.
And science officer. It's a bit chilling. Now, I found
how many of these, by the way, how many of these inspectors,
which is what it amounts to were auditors, which are not ordered,
probably get paid more than an inspector would how many of
these people do they get? Are they going to hire? I mean, this
seems like another big government job. You know, I
mean, everything that Obama is doing all the creation of any
jobs he's creating are just government jobs. It's like
everyone's going to be working for the government except for
you. Yeah. Because I'm gonna go to work for the government.
Well, this
is, of course, exactly what happens in Atlas Shrugged. If
you read that. By the way, someone sent me a notes as he
was listening to the audiobook version, and was really enjoying
it all 52 hours of it. That's quite an audio book. But the the
bill is Portuguese in that amount of time. Interestingly
enough, this bill is 1017 pages long, which is about the size of
Atlas Shrugged. And I know how long it's taken me to get
through that book. And of course, what really seems
apparent is that they, you know, the government goes on vacation
in August.
Well, let's talk about that for a quick minute. They
go on vacation.
Hey, wait, let's give me let me ask you a question. Either do
I'm gonna do an Adam curry and ask you a question. That's not
the answer below. Hit me hit me. You've got the you got it.
You're running a company? Yeah, something's happening at the
company, there's going to be a merger or you're going to be
shut down. We
got a we got a client, maybe we got something and got a new
customer for God's
sake. Or you're putting you're going into a new building? I
mean, a million things. Are you going to take four weeks off on
your normal vacation? Say you take a month off?
Okay. First of all, I think by law almost, unless you've been
working in a company for eight years, you don't even get four
weeks of vacation. I believe as an executive France they do.
Yeah, we're not in France, dude. I believe I have three weeks of
vacation a year by by the book. So I have a partner in the
business, you know, kind of like you have a president and a vice
president, you've got a speaker of the house, you got all these
people who could pretty much you know, look after the ship and
steer it. So while we do you know, we have got families so
well, I will take a little bit of time off, like a week or so
or maybe a week and a half. You know, I coordinate that with my
partners in the business so that they'll keep the ship running.
Of course, we don't shut everything down,
of course allowed in Washington and they don't do it for four
weeks. They do it for five weeks. And wait a minute, let me
get this straight. We're in the worst financial crisis in our
history since the Great Depression, whatever they want
to say it's so good. It's in a horrible situation. Why don't
they stay and work it out?
Let go on vacation and
look over here, nothing to see. Look at that. These guys are
made this day they're rushing these bills through because they
have to go on vacation, even though the economy is in such
bad shape, and everything's falling apart, but they're going
on vacation. So I mean, give me a break, they should not go on
vacation, and they should let people read this, this health
care bill. It's ridiculous. These guys are crazy. So the
whole point
that I'm trying to make it out, yes, well, we're way to
hypnotise for that so the whole point of this rush, which is
exactly what they did with the $700 billion dollar stimulus
package, well, we gotta hurry. It's, as far as I know, we've
only spent about seven or 8% of it, and why do we have to hurry
to get it all done? You know, they really want to rush this so
that people don't have time to read it. And honestly, John, I'm
not stupid. You're not stupid. You know, we're I think we're on
the level of any congressman or senator, you know, these are
just people who have been, you know, they're doctors, there's
some of them are lawyers, a lot of them are lawyers. But they're
people who were elected voted in, they can't read this in in
in a week's time. It's impossible to read it
comprehended understand exactly what it means I've only been
able to pull little pieces out, for example, page 59, which kind
of freaked me out. And I'm not sure I'm reading it right. But
requirements for specific standards under Section B. It
will read I'm sorry, under Section C, it will re enable
Electronic Funds Transfer transfers in order to allow
automated reconciliation with related health care payment and
remittance advice. Well, the way I read that is that the
government will require every citizen to allow the government
to transfer funds in and out of your bank account. Do Am I
reading that wrong?
I don't know. I can't figure it out either.
require the use of standard electronic transaction with
which healthcare providers may quickly and efficiently enrol
with a health plan to conduct the other electronic
transactions provided for this party.
It sounds like a Nigerian scam.
There's also I'm looking for it now the this bill will require
every American citizen whether you have private health
insurance or not to have an ID card. So there you go, you know,
they've finally done your papers, your paper, I was
surprised betta. This finally put it in now. Even if so we
have our Indian I know you take advantage of the medial health
health care plan. The doctors that you go to, will still no
longer be able to provide what you and he feel is appropriate.
The government in effect is going to determine what you can
and cannot get this is how they're supposedly lowering the
cost of health care. But I want a doctor to be deciding that got
the government.
Well here. Why don't you play here's kind of I thought this
was a little off the wall. But I got a long clip from Dennis.
What's his last Cortines? He was the CEO of the Mayo Clinic, one
of the most efficient operations in the in the world for
medicine. And he makes a couple of interesting points. You want
to play that? Yeah. Do you think the public option,
the public option in the plan depends on what we mean by the
public option. If we mean a Medicare type option that has
price controls, and its fee for service, that'll be a
catastrophe. We've,
what I didn't quite understand that is you're gonna explain
this.
But it's pretty straightforward. You saying In other words, if
it's going to be one of those systems, where you you know,
come in for a test and then they add another test and another
test another hit because they've lowered the price they have
another was a capped, what you can charge by the government
said no, you can't charge more than 50 cents for that test and
say, Okay, well, let me do 10 of them. Ah, okay. That's
apparently what's happened over the years. Right. Okay.
Seen it already in Medicare. It's the largest public
insurance company. It's been up and running for many years. It's
had price controls under its control, for since 1983. And
with price controls, what have we seen, people just do more?
The rate of growth of spending has still gone.
If you okay, I get paid for every service, you want to do as
many services as you can
remember, Medicare's only one style. Another one could be
Medicaid. Right? Well, this
is exactly what the President said was not going to happen
under the new plan that you would not be able to do to have
four different
types you come in with that concept that the government's
can tell you what you can do what tests you can and cannot
run? Well, it's not
just a concept. This is actually happening this this
point I really want to make with this guy. That's an interesting
point. But what he's bringing up now is actually even more
interesting because I mean, nobody even thought about the
simplicity of what he's about to say they have
difficulty with it, you got a military system, you got a VA
system, you have TRICARE. TRICARE is a pretty good little
insurance product out there people who have it like it, most
people don't even know what it is. And not many folks have
asked to hear from the TRICARE administration, what they can
do, what can they bring to the table, and you have the Federal
Employees Health Care Plan, which is basically private
insurance products that's available for all the federal
employees, including the congressman and the president,
the mail carriers and the CIA agents, everybody,
this is the reason people always say, if Congress would give the
American public the same kind of health care system they had,
they'd be better off.
Well. And indeed, when you look at this, and you say, Well,
okay, we have six public plans that are available on the shelf.
And I hear people saying we ought to create a new one, I
say, Are they out of their mind? It makes me cringe to think of
really being able to put together another public plan. We
already have some and pick one if we want to use that.
Yeah, that's really interesting, John, because the President was
the president literally said last night, and I don't have the
sound clip, but he literally said you because the question
was President Obama, will you be on the same health care plan as
what you are now offering to to the entire country? And he said,
Yes, it will be exactly this. He said, he thought it was funny.
He said, Yes, it will be exactly the same health care plan. But
of course, I have a different one because, you know, I got a
doctor around me all the time, but hey, I'm the president. It
was like, okay, but he was saying that it will be exactly
the same and it sounds like Cortes or tz whatever his name
is. He doesn't agree with that they won't be the same health
care plan.
No one has some new system but I think the point he makes is
we've got six government health care systems in place right now
and any names all six of them including the the obscure
TRICARE, and these are all for the government and you know
these are you know, Medicare Medicaid does you know why are
why don't we just turn one of them into the National Health
Health Care says what do we have to have a whole nother one a
seventh?
More money for them?
Yeah, it's another bureaucracy they're creating it's bullshit
is what it is, let's say so if and
the the entire bill can be found in the show notes at no
agenda.me vo.com and no. agenda.squarespace.com I just
want to give you a quick rundown. To find out more about
the hint of a national ID card that's page 58 US government
having immediate access to every bank account page 59 All this
was there's a lot of information here about what doctors can or
cannot own. They're not allowed to own a certain amount of the
hospital that starts around page 317 Oh, this is another nice
one. All American citizens ordered to give the US
government power of attorney over their living will that
starts around page 425
What's this? Yeah, I
can pull that up for you. But
do you have to just summarise
the government will have a new power of attorney tourney over
your living will.
That's weird. Well, the whole thing what that means,
let me let me get some of the verbatim text for your home
because I just did some notes here for 25 Here we go. Okay,
such consultation cell include the following an explanation by
the practitioner of advanced directives including living
wills and durable powers of attorney and their uses an
explanation by the practitioner of the role and responsibility
of a health care proxy. See, it's hard to understand this
language that's why I'm not quite sure if I'm reading into
it properly, but
which some people would go and then to start dissecting about
the people
we elected? Me so go and do it an end of life plan now for each
American citizen
to to the head.
And, and, of course, they slipped in a really nice one
about marriage. And I guess this is where we find the determine
if you can be married, whether you're gay or not. That starts
around page 487 or 4489. Actually, the government can
decide who and who cannot be married or what constitutes a
marriage. So this is, you know, if you're, I guess if you're
gay, lesbian, whatever, and, and you consider yourself to be
married, no health care for you. Or,
well, that doesn't make sense from the Obama person. back if
they would have been the opposite. Oh, please.
What do you mean, he's against gay marriage? He said it
himself. He's against gay marriage. So as Joe Biden, this
is no secret. That that's the one thing they've been
transparent about. People don't want to believe it.
One thing I wouldn't they don't want to believe it because Obama
is a Democrat.
You know that. So there was another question. And it has so
expertly done. Because recently, all of the head honchos from the
health care providers met at the White House, and the White House
would not provide a list of who the executives were, which of
course, you know, the press gets all up in arms about that. And
Obama said, Well, you know, first of all, you guys were
there. This was a press, what do you call it? You call it a press
photo spray? Which was kind of like a Whoa, it's like machine
guns spray. Really? A photo spray? Yeah. And so you could
see exactly who was there. And I think we've actually sent out a
list as of this morning, blah, blah, blah. You know, but the
question was about about transparency and the fact that
these health care and that's another great question, which I
had, as well as, why were these health care? Bill? Committee
meetings, not on C span? And the President goes, well, you know,
there's other important stuff going on.
Why didn't he make a promise is one of his great promises that
he was going to put all this stuff on C span?
Yeah. No, he said there was other important stuff going on,
like the finance committee hearings,
watch C span, there was a lot of crap on it wasn't anything. Of
course, it was sort of my air. That was what was on the whole
time. Well, this health care bill was
nice to see that it's the same issues or in any way, what there
is, is a night,
you got to play it again. Look over here, nothing to see. Look
at that. That's what it is, man, that just covering that shit up.
We know she's gonna go pharma made
a big point about saying that all this stuff was going to be
on C span. It's one of his promises.
Well, it's not true.
There's a number of sites, by the way people should check out
I sent you a link to one of the more interesting ones, which
seems fairly objective, that that lists all of Obama's what
he says he's going to do and what he did and what is not
done. And it's the truth ometer. Yeah, that one. Left, it's a
left wing oriented. So I think this is one of the print
newspapers out of Florida.
But it is politifact.com. That's when you're talking about which
was it? I'm sorry, politifact.com. Maybe that's a
little dash and beaters, stash statements. Yeah,
yeah, we'll have that in the show notes for people want to
check it out. For sure. But one of the things listed in there is
that Obama is going to do all this stuff on C span, so
everyone can see it if they want to. And I don't see why he
doesn't even do that. Because who watches C span except for
you, me and five other people the only guys
it's funny because it's like
she spends he's got about the same number of listeners minus a
couple as Fox Business. And I had
I had Nick over the other night from from the office and gonna
have the theatre. I have the TV on C span. And he says to me, as
he's leaving later that evening, says, Dude, why do you watch all
those boring? Oh, dudes, what's that show about?
Yeah, well, there you go. Welcome to the government large
that's yours. That's C span, man, as we can actually see
what's going on. He's like, Oh, it was pretty boring. You got
Bravo.
No, nobody cares. And he's, you know, just, you know, be just a
general member of the public. They're all the same. I would
like to congratulate everyone listening, by the way to this
programme, whether it's streamed or time shifted in podcast
format, you truly are the people who will actually survive, you
will live there, the people who aren't tuned in at this level,
who think what the hell is this dumb show about your
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are destined for death. It's just it, forget about it. If
you're listening, congratulations, you have your
lifted to a higher frequency, you actually have a shot at
making it out alive.
By the way, I don't want to start begging for money so soon
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click on one of the buttons and help us out with me. Besides
that, we need more people going to that site because we just put
it up and it's the numbers are kind of low, but we don't have a
lot on there. I mean, we I think people go to crit.com for most
of this stuff.
I don't know. But they get it from different places. Sebelius,
by
the way, definitely have a distributed mechanism.
Health Secretary Kathleen Sebelius who of course, John, as
you know, is a Bilderberger.
So they say
yes, she was on Meet the Press. And I'm just gonna put the link
in the show notes because she
another Jersey girl with corruption going
Oh, totally. And so what's the guy's name? It wasn't the
regular. Yeah, who's the guy that meet the press? I forget
his name.
Yeah, there was a new guy this week. Yeah. So
he's actually pretty good. And he's saying look, the the CBO
which is the what the congressional board oversight
committee or whatever, whatever. But it's like an accountant.
It's like an independent accountant who looks at it stuff
the government is saying, and they do the math. And they said,
Well, as far as we can tell, this health care bill is going
to cost more money. It's not going to save money, it's going
to cost more money. So he lays it right up to a trillion and a
half. He says it's gonna cost more money. And she and she
doesn't answer the question, John, she just sits there and
goes, well, you know, the President is really on board
with this. And he comes back at it again, he says, You have it
they say it's going to cost more money. How does that jive with
the whole idea of the bill, which at the top says to reduce
health care costs? And she avoids the question
continuously. You have to see it.
We should have had a dub of it. Well, I have
it here. But it doesn't stop, you know, home
goes on. And we answered the question. No, it wants you to
say, look, she shouldn't say look with the word look. Yes.
Look, it is what it is.
As President Obama tried rallying lawmakers behind health
care reform, he repeated a pledge meant to ease not just
Republicans concerns over costs, but some fellow Democrats as
well,
I want to be very clear that it is a sign off. Very clear adds
to our deficits over the next decade.
I just want to hear that now. Okay, hear that. Hear what he
says this is his promise. What he
did not repeat was his call for the House and Senate to pass
bills by August, a goal
that so that's not the piece I was looking for. He actually
says let me be clear in his email that he sent out to to let
me be he said, let me be clear, let me be very clear, because he
has two variations. And
here it is. That's why I'm holding a press conference. But
well, insurance reform is so important. Let me be clear,
Colin. Okay. So let me be clear, Congress is still debating parts
of the legislation, we have achieved critical consensus on
several key areas.
He says, Let me be very clear. I think when he's slightly
annoyed, yeah, he does. He does but this somebody sent us a note
saying they should turn that into a drinking game. He says it
so much
will be drunk will be like Russians. We can't do that. Boy,
oh, boy. Anyway, that is also in the in the show notes, if you
want to go take a look at that. At Meet the Press, where
Sebelius just sits there. And and even Mickey's like, and she
doesn't even have to listen to it like this. She's lying. She's
sitting there lying the whole time, lie, lie, lie, lie lie.
Another good analysis came out on Monday of the health care
bill from a website called economic policy journal.com. And
I'll just read because actually did a real nice. And, of course,
I can't really say if this is true or not, because it's all
interpretation. It's like this is law. It's like a legal
document. So it's all open for interpretation. And you have to
be a lawyer, and you have to have billions of dollars to
dispute this stuff. But just running down the list. The bill
mandates government will audit books of all employers that self
insure that will be us. Section 123, there will be a government
committee that decides what treatments or benefits you get
paid. So they're gonna show in other words, all companies are
are
all can be audited? No, not can will be audited
will, as in must be?
Well, if they're gonna have a staff big enough, they'll be
able to do it. No problem. So it says will so I'm going to
presume that's how they how they read it. The Health Committee,
health commissioner, the health choices Commissioner will choose
your benefits for you, you have no choice. Government will have
real time access to individuals finances, and a national ID
health card will be issued that is page 58. That's what I've
been talking about. So real time access to your bank account real
time. So hey, let's see what Curry's doing.
That the noise they make when they do this,
that's how their computer systems sound. Yeah. Government
is creating a health care exchange to bring private health
care plans under government control. True. I believe that to
be true. That's on page 72. I mean, this thing just goes on
and on. It's another great thing to look at treatment of certain
cancer hospitals on page 272. They're going to ration so you
know, they're going to decide when enough is enough. And
having been through a parent who died of cancer, it's like, you
know, you never think is enough. Right? You're like, Well, why
don't we just try this? Can we try this? One more thing? And
now the government's gonna say sorry, no more, no more, no more
treatment for you. And that that's a sucks. Expansion, page.
317 government mandating hospitals cannot expand this I
saw in many diff In part throughout the bill, and this
has to do with part of the ownership that doctors have. I
mean, this is it's it's disconcerting to say the least.
Yeah. But you know, marching ahead. Hey.
And now, back to real. i
i twittered the other day, as I think you and I discussed I
said, What are the 15 astronauts actually doing up on the
International Space Station? You know, we shot off another,
another one of them, what do you call them space shuttles that
went up to the space station and Lord knows what that cost to
send one of those things out. And of course, we are paying for
it and I just want you know, I just don't it doesn't cut it
anymore for me to hear that they're doing experiments with
mice and herbs and stuff. I mean, it's like who cares? Tell
me what they're really doing. We got 15 people up there, and the
answer came to me almost immediately. As it turns out,
the only toilet onboard the International Space Station
allegedly broke last week wildly in use when the Moto fan
suddenly stopped leaving astronauts with no other option
than to use the toilet onboard the Soyuz capsule the Russian
crapper The problem is that this particular toilet has limited
capacity no big dump for you. Luckily relived News
Limited This is a crappy story.
But it's all over the news that
pissed off the coin upon
there. Luckily, rescue is at hand since the space shuttle
just
jettison the stuff into space and head and you know just down
to earth.
Well listen. So this this actually came from before the
space shuttle went off. And here it is. The problem is this
particular toy has limited but luckily rescue was at hand since
the Space Shuttle Discovery is set to launch into space on
Saturday in order to deliver the second section of the massive
Japanese space laboratory key boo and of course they will have
repair parts for the toilet. Ah What are they doing up there
man? What are they doing on the space station? Thing that
they'd love to do? Are they I know one thing that everyone
kind of talks about in this in the Silicon Valley area is that
it turns out you can make some massively interesting silicon
crystals in a zero gravity environment
well didn't just tell me that I just did yeah but that why
should that be a government project?
No you know I don't know because we need to silicon for
government missiles
very interesting article an article in the Los Angeles Times
titled A time bomb for a world wheat crop. Now of course we
know that Monsanto recently got the go ahead for taking over a
lot of their a lot of the wheat production, I believe in the
United States, I think is what we discussed John, and and that
of course, will be their genetically modified version of
wheat. So simultaneously, the UG 99 fungus, also known as stem
rust, could wipe out more than 80% of the world's wheat crop as
it spreads from Africa. The race is on to breed resistant plants
before it reaches the US How convenient. Wow, the spores
arrived from Kenya on dried infected leaves ensconced in
multiple layers of envelopes whatever the fuck that means.
Somebody mailed them in they did
it's like here's a story you should print Los Angeles Times
came in an envelope. Working inside a bio secure greenhouse
outfitted with motion detectors and surveillance cameras.
government scientists at the serial Disease Laboratory in
that cereal as in c r e a l cereals cereals in St. Paul,
Minnesota, suspended the fungal spores in a light mineral oil
and sprayed them onto 1000s of healthy wheat plants. Yeah, good
plan. After two weeks, the stalks were covered with deadly
reddish blisters characteristic of the scourge known as Ug 99
Nearly all the plants were goners. I love this writing.
Crop scientists who had corn ball is writing this stuff
telling you they're gone or you know who wrote a John. Crop
scientists fear the UG 99 fungus could wipe out more than 80% of
worldwide wheat crops as it spreads from Eastern Africa. It
has already jumped the Red Sea and travelled as far as Iran
export we can't we can't even get YouTube video out of Iran
How do they know that that ships with their anyway,
here's a question on my mind. Is the stuff so deadly, which
apparently it is. How do they go? How's it growing it Yeah,
where's the wheat in it? How's it written Africa growing at
all?
Well, experts say it's poised to enter the breadbasket of
Northern India and Pakistan. And the wind will inevitably ice
eaters, you mean? Yeah, the breadbasket and the wind will
inevitably carry it to Russia, China, even North America if it
doesn't hitch a ride with people first. Hitch a ride with people
first it's a time bombs as Jim Peterson, Professor of wheat
breeding and genetics. Another Monsanto dude at Oregon State
University. It moves in the air it can move in clothing on an
aeroplane we know it's going to be here it's a matter of how
long it was going to take. I predict the TSA will now be
scanning you for you g 99 fungus I think a lot of people that fly
should be scanned for fungus Yeah, so that of course is very
convenient for Monsanto's go ahead to produce and sell
genetically modified wheat so besides I mean at once you've
got corn and wheat we're pretty much genetically modified people
right because that we eat that's what we eat.
Well actually we're more of the corn people we have more corn
and wheat
Yeah, but the they've already got the corn.
Yeah, that's true. Ah, well, that's pleasant news. Yes.
Somehow I missed that one. We got to bat fungus we got the
dying bees we got the now we got a weak blight surely give them
another excuse to grow more corn?
Yeah, more genetically modified soybeans,
which is totally engineered.
Well, there's almost no natural soy left in the world right.
But there must be some in China.
Why thoughts? Do we have an article months ago about the
Chinese freaking out because they want to have like real soy
and not the the Monsanto version?
Maybe there's too much to keep track of.
But people don't really care. And I will tell you why I say
that. Producer Aaron Spears sent in a note. Hey, Adam just
finished listening to 114 Heard you mentioned the film Food Inc
towards the end and had to tell you about the audience we're
getting for this film. I manage a six screen arthouse Theatre in
Cleveland, Ohio, a self righteous progressive
stronghold, and have been amazed at the behaviour of our audience
when documentaries of this sort come out. So of course, you
know, this is Food Inc, which is supposed to scare you about
where our food actually comes from and how the pretty pictures
on the packaging have nothing to do with how it's actually
manufactured and genetically engineered. When we had an
inconvenient truth Truth show here which was selling out
weekend shows for a month. For months. There were companies
that paid to have us hand out postcards promoting carbon
offsets. I love this and other such nonsense guess what the
number one thing was we cleaned up in the theatre after each
show? Oh yeah, the postcards. I'd say at least half of what
was passed out ended up in the trash. Same thing happened when
we showed the 11th hour now we've been selling out shows of
food ink. However, the same kind of hypocrisy is taking place
with the audience people line up to get popcorn popped in canola
oil with extra butter, soybean oil with artificial flavouring
and lots of tbh Q and Diet Coke which of course contains all
kinds of nasty Rumsfeld stuff to go see the film about the poor
quality of food coming out of the industry the industrial food
system just makes me laugh and then cry every day I'm at work
that's good anyway thought you might enjoy that tidbit keep up
the swine flu Mexican flu novel h one n one reporting my wife
son and soon to be be born second child appreciated and
I'll be donating as soon as my budget allows. Aaron Thank you
very much. And this is true this is the same thing with the you
know the so called or you know it's like oh horrible the
Iranian elections they're all rig What a horrible country we
know one woman died horrible she got shot I think probably even a
stray bullet doesn't matter. It was very visual. It was a
horrific thing to see. Meanwhile 130 people are being killed and
Chinese riots you don't read anything about but what does
this incredibly switched on intelligent audience do I'm
changing my Twitter icon to green so against the Iranian
suppression a we've got it's a green revolution. Those people
will be the first to get to to the head.
You're on a roll today.
I'm feeling it baby because I'm just I've just given up on
trying to help people. The people who are listening to the
show I care about you I love you and the more we talk about this
stuff, the more we just raise our awareness level we'll be
able to avoid most of the crap that comes down the pike we'll
be okay get your gold avoid the shots and you'll be fine.
Peculiar article sent to me by One of our producers and
lawyers, DNA from genetically engineered foods can end up in
your genes. There's a sound region of a piece of you, you
should be so lucky tissues, including meat of chicken, who
had eaten only genetically engineered Bt corn were found to
contain pieces of the DNA from this food. The problem however,
is that every cell in the plant G foods contain genetically
unstable DNA from the cauliflower mosaic virus from
the DNA is suspected to be carcinogenic, blah, blah.
Moreover, the CA dem V, which is the cauliflower thing is related
to human viruses that cause serious diseases aids for and
hepatitis B, the corn grains on one cob of G can contain
hundreds of millions of such deep pieces of DNA. This is one
of several studies that established that the genes in
the body may take up potentially harmful photo, or pedogenic
viral DNA from genetically engineered food. Now I know a
lot of people I had to one of the guys who want some he won a
Nobel Prize. He's a famous scientist from San Diego, and he
teaches down there and he I was asking him about that, you know,
there's a thing called genetic therapy where you can actually
change the genes in your body. Okay. So in other words, you so
I asked him specifically, because that would be an
interesting thing. What if you wanted to change somebody's
genetic structure? So they were they've been the lifetime time
brunette and you wanted to make them a redhead? Could you do it
in real time?
Or could you give him a big rack?
There you go. Same thing? He said. Yeah, absolutely. Really?
Yeah. So you could do change stuff in real time. So that
means that it's possible that you know what this summary of
this article is, in other words, you're eating screwed. I mean, I
think this will come to a head when somebody eats something and
starts glowing the next day, you know, or giving or having an
electric charge,
so it can have an immediate effect.
Yeah. Wow. Hello.
Yeah. Hello. That's pretty spectacular.
Well, wouldn't be in the case of the big front, but you know,
yeah, what happened to you? I don't know. I just been eaten
corn. Is them grits? Anyway, it's just all bad.
Yeah, I mean, this is what people don't realise, you know,
you've probably heard the saying you are what you eat.
A German Research Group led by Professor Walter doerfler, at
the University of Cologne has repeated repeated repetitively
demonstrate that a large enough pieces of DNA to contain a gene
may survive digestion.
Right? means it doesn't break down, it stays in your body and
becomes a part of you.
Moreover, derfor showed that these absorbed pieces of DNA
were taken up in the tissues of mice, and ended up inside the
cells. Yeah,
that's what it does. And you know, I was talking to Mickey
this morning. She says, you know, I've got this, what do you
want for breakfast? I love her when she makes me breakfast. And
she says, Do you want some soy milk? Like soy milk? What? Soy
milk, and then I lay into this whole thing. I said, you know, I
was drinking soy milk for a year or two. And then John said, Hey,
man, that'll make your brain shrink. And then I started
looking into it. And the audience producer started
sending all these, these detailed accounts about what soy
can do. And so I say, you know, so really, this, you know, it
will make your brain shrink, and it's not good to a woman. And
then, you know, and she said, well, so you know, why, what,
what is it with soy? And I said, well, for the same reason, when
they feed this crap to laboratory mice, they die two
weeks later. That's that's the stuff that's happening. You die
from it slowly. something weird going on, John, you know, my, my
way, I've
got a link that you can put in the show notes that Stig just
gave me, which is the government gene. It's a human genome
project information and and a whole thing from the government
working on gene therapy. And the question is, why is the
government working on gene therapy? We'll find out because
they can. You'll love this, disclose in the show notes,
people will get a kick out a report on Skype,
so I don't forget it. Yeah, I'm doing it right now. So, you
know, of course, my theory that the one of the main reasons if
not, the only reason we are in Afghanistan is to protect our
investment in the poppy fields, since it's pretty clear, as
documented over and over and over again, that the US military
transportation, not necessarily the US military personnel, but
the cover of the military is being used to transport heroin
all over the western, the Western world. And, you know, if
you look at where all the camps are in the Helmand Province,
they're all surrounding the poppy fields. And now all of a
sudden, the US military is bombing poppy seeds. They're
collecting the poppy seeds. It's like it's almost like a little
show going on here. It's like, I mean, they're bombing poppy
seeds, okay. The US military bombed about 300 tonnes of poppy
seeds in a dusty field in southern Afghanistan today. So
they're not actually bombing the fields. But they're taking 300
tonnes of poppy seeds, putting them in the middle of the desert
and then blowing them up. Now here's what I want to get to.
This is a news clip and I'd written of course, the link will
be in the show notes. I'd really appreciate it if our producers
could look at this it's a CNN news clip. And tell me that the
military so there's a guy with a with a flak jacket standing in a
dusty surrounding, which is probably Universal Studios lot
D. And you see behind him, you see what looks like military
personnel transporting big sacks, which apparently are of
poppy onto a flatbed truck, which then they apparently are
going to go blow up. So I'd like you to look at this and tell me
if these uniforms even remotely resemble those of US Marines.
Here's a little bit of the clip just so you can listen to it.
Crap, why's that non working have moved
into this area. They've been searching through the stalls
here. And as we can see here, they're loading up 1000s of bags
of poppy seed, why poppy seed? This is a major drug producing
region more than 90 plus so
there's like 10 guys carrying these bags which may be filled
with sawdust for all I know. And they're putting it onto a
flatbed truck but I keep stopping the video and they just
don't look like marine uniforms John Yeah, they're
they're camera Marines that listen to our show. We know we
do. I know we do. Please
take a look at it because even their demeanour even the way
they're walking. They look like mercenaries they don't Yeah,
Marines have a certain style and so mercenaries are different.
Yes, Marines have
a pride and a way they walk. And these guys are like all decked
out with you know, like mirrored sunglasses. And I'm just saying,
you know, I'm like Blackwater. That's all I'm seeing
is heroin and opium products come from Afghanistan. And a
bulk of that comes from Afghanistan. So anyway,
how stupid is this? If you read so the whole idea is well, we
want to cut the Taliban drug ties you know, we've got to
reduce the Taliban's income
this sounds to me like they're gonna plant poppies so they can
have a bigger crop and they're this is the way of doing it.
Well, if you really want to get rid of it, then why wouldn't you
go to the fields? No, they're taking the actual harvested crop
and then they're going and burning it
up. That they were dude you said they
were gonna blow it up? Well, yeah, blow it up. Burnin Up blow
up well, how
about disrupt blowing it up? Not blowing it up at all, but just
spreading it with a bomb?
Yeah, but that's what they're not doing. So it's it's like
I'm confused by the story
anyway, here. Well, here's where you'll start to understand it.
It's a challenge to deliver assistance in a war zone. You
can hear fighter jets flying above us right now said Rory
Donahue, a US aid development officer who USAID There we go.
This USAID guys are all over the place. And of course this is
these are the true economic hitman.
Yeah, actually, one of our listeners is a USAID guy and he
says that we're wrong. Oh, yeah. He told me
G figures he'd say
we're wrong. Well, he doesn't seem like a bad guy.
So we hit some real news for a second. That's true real. People
have been sending this to us as a to to the head story, which is
funny. Of course, this is the Chinese worker who apparently
misplaced an iPhone, fourth generation, and then winds up
suicided Yeah, so the story is thrown off a roof. Yeah, people
say Oh, you don't want to ask about Golden's. Yeah, poor goons
who just like Goldman Sachs had stellar profits. How do they do
that? How do they do that?
Nobody's buying anything but Apple I guess I don't know. It's
amazing because ASOs one of the few comes with the profits and
the sales are up everybody else profits are up and sales are
down. You know, you people say well, how did you do that? Well,
you just fire everybody.
Yeah, well, that's yeah, that's one way that's one way I mean,
it's a lot of these companies reporting better profits or it's
it is indeed all through cost cutting measures. That's how you
make your profits go up as well. But I think their revenues were
pretty good, weren't they? Apple's revenues Yeah, no,
everything's up there. Everything's peachy apples on a
roll and now they know the stock is flying. Because everybody
suspects I'll give a little background everybody suspects
that the when they open up China is going to just the company's
gonna make so much money they don't know what won't know what
to do with it, the stock will go to 300. Meanwhile, this loss of
this 4g phone in a country that counterfeits things like like
there's no tomorrow seems to me as soon as they roll out their
phone in China there's gonna be a Chinese clone of it a
counterfeit you know, copy of it, they will be just as good
you won't know the difference because if you've ever been to
China and picked up some of these things, they're in
identical, and they look like they're making the same
factories even though they don't not necessarily. And don't,
don't flood the market with these things have they become
popular and Apple only get a piece of the action if they get
any, because these things will be sold for 50 bucks and apples
will be sold for 200. Right? So
there's a lot of money riding on it. So yeah, Apple goons
probably did throw the guy off the roof.
Well, they you know, the thing is, somebody mentioned to me on
the cranky geek show that we did last Wednesday, that Chinese are
going to copy that iPhone, whether they get the prototype
or not. But it would be nice to have the prototype in advance of
the rollout and you might even get your phone out before Apple
does.
That's funny. So you have two more sound clips here. Do you
want to use those for this episode?
Yeah, let's use the just what this goes back to the health
care thing. But I want to mention something this
disconcerning play the what are the two clips
that happened? Trade and healthy economy?
We better play the cap and trade one. The other one I could we
can put off till Sunday. Which is it? Because I gotta get
another clip. You want to set it up? So you know that cap and
trade thing? Well, yeah, cap and trade is I mean, the big kids
have big. They had the debate in Congress afterwards. If they
turns out then I have another set of clips that after it's
over, people could come up and they make comments. They say,
you know, and so after the debate is over, everything's
over and they've closed the debate and everybody's left and
these guys started to make comments. And I was gonna race
you know, as a race he was and I said why never picked up on
these comments. But here's an example of two comments that
took place after the cap and trade debate. And I don't have
the guys names in front of me but one of them's a Republican
the first guy and then the second guy is the Democrat and
you can kind of see the orientation of the two groups
and the one group that thinks that they've got it knocked out
legitimise a play it from a
gentleman from Texas tries to address the house for one
there's no objection gentleman is recognised. Thank you, Mr.
Speaker. Just moments ago on this floor, there's cheering
there was clapping over the passing of the crap and trade
bill. Did you say crap and trade? Yeah. He said crap and
trade. That's funny. Here we go over the passing of the crap and
trade bill. And
it's like homelessness, what? Some guys should just do that.
mumble something the speaker goes, Well, what did the one of
the gentleman from Texas A homeowner says what? That will
be funny. Let's do it. Again.
Bill. is a little tough to get excited. You know, from a
political standpoint, I should be overjoyed because I really
believe in my heart.
So he's a Democrat. No, he's
a Republican. He's the one says crap and trade. He's the
Republican but
okay, well, because he says from the political, you got
to listen to him because he's being sarcastic. Okay, American
people
find out and this is just a part of it. When they find out what
has been done to them. They are going to be livid, and they're
going to throw some people out of this body. I just know
that'll happen. But I care more about America than I do
politics. And I know that we'll be facing the single moms heard
from last summer. They can't afford the gasoline bill. They
can't afford the propane. You didn't do a great thing. You
heard some really decent family struggling trying to make it and
this is going to be their death nail. It breaks my heart. I
yield back.
Wow.
Now here comes a Democrat.
Let me just ask you a question. Propane. Do you use propane? No.
Who uses propane?
Everybody in Texas?
So the Democrats on the same clip?
No. Yeah. The Democrats coming up on the same clip. He's from
Tennessee. And he you see where he's coming from?
Are there any further requests for one minutes? Gentleman from
Tennessee will proceed rise? There's no objection, gentlemen.
Thank you, sir. This is Black Music Month. And we had a
resolution to introduce what do you call
it? Black Music Month.
This is Black Music Month. And we had a resolution to introduce
and pass celebrating the 30th anniversary of Black Music
Month. Because of the schedule. It didn't come up. And that's
why I wanted to address that back today. Black Music Month is
important as it reminds people in the history of music in this
it's got nothing to do with anything that was that. They
just finished the crap and trade argument and this guy is going
off. example after example, the Republicans come on and they
they moan and groan about something and then the Democrats
say you know I'd like to talk about Marm marmots in this
state. Okay.
That's funny. I mean, I'm all for Black Music Month. Yeah, get
Kanye West on the floor. Yeah, this healthy economy now is only
29 seconds. Do you want to hit that or not?
Yeah, this is this is part there's going on. Right now in
California, I know and I'm sure in the rest of the country,
there is an advertising campaign done by one group called, you
know, this one's called the American economy Healthy America
or something like that I have to like wrote it down somewhere
that can't find it. And the other one is done by AFS me the
American Federation of State County Municipal Employees,
which is a union. And when I looked at the who runs this
particular operation, where I have the clip from, this is
actually S E IU, which is the Service Employees International
Union. So these unions are pushing the following
advertisement. On the public, there's about five variations of
this that I can tell I got two of them and play it.
If we don't act, medical bills will wipe out their savings. If
we don't act, she'll be denied coverage because of a pre
existing condition. And he won't get the chemotherapy he needs.
If we don't act, healthcare costs will rise 70%. And he'll
have to cut benefits for his employees. But we can act. The
President and Congress have a plan to lower your costs and
stop denials for pre existing conditions. It's time to act.
Yeah, you know, I was gonna mention that I was scanning
around the channels yesterday, and every single news cable news
channel is just surrounds all the programming and of course
programming. As you know, John, having worked in television is
only there to fill up the gaps between the commercials, every
commercial pod is filled with either pharmaceutical ads, or
all these ads to pass the health care bill. And this is just one
version of it. I mean, I've heard so many. But here's the
other one they asked me version is more interesting, because
it's advocating that you contact Diane, Diane, I'm sorry, Dianne
Feinstein, and tell her to vote for the bill. She's Democrats,
you voting for the bill. But why is it Dianne Feinstein and not
Barbara Boxer that you're supposed to contact unless this
is just essentially a cheap promotion for Dianne Feinstein?
You know, by mentioning her name over and over and over again,
because she's closely connected with apps me which is a union?
No, no,
John, it's psychological warfare. It's psyops it's real
easy. I mean, you want first of all, no one even knows who's a
Republican or a Democrat? There's Oh, call her Oh, sure.
And
I think it's, I still think it's coming out of her office. So she
can go and say, I have gotten all these letters, and 90% of
them telling me to vote for this bill. So that's why I'm voting
for the bill. It's kind of a cover your ass
but you have to question and any normal thinking person who
probably listens to this show, you have to question the
validity of the programming, if it is completely paid for by the
pharmaceutical industry and all these special interest groups
who are telling you to vote for this health care bill? Yeah, no,
there's no question that how can
they be objective? They can't because you. Look, we aren't in
the advertising business. This this is why this show has no
advertising. Because if I sat here and said, you know, swine
flu vaccinations are going to kill you don't take them and
then we or we're talking about genetically modified wheat and
then we have a Monsanto commercial, the show would end
very, very quickly it would be over I'm
not going to argue the point but there's another point here that
I want to mention that that actually is more galling. I
thought channel that one of these the ads that you just
heard there was on Channel 11 Ken TV, the NBC affiliate in
Northern California. These are the same people along with kgvo
says they do not take advocacy ads, they do not take activist
ads so we cannot run the marijuana ad. And they're
running this
well of course, because these are the guys that have tonnes
of money to me that these guys make a big stink about not
running the marijuana ad the one woman who wants to legalise it,
and then they push on this stuff as this looks like an advocacy
ad if any, it has ever been worse,
it's an advocacy and it's everything's filled with it.
It's filled with it anyway you know there was there was another
pharma ad that I saw which really blew me away I'm just
looking for it it was sent to us by by a producer hold on because
it involved a new product which I had not heard of yet. Boy MC I
want to look for the 22nd
need to develop a new antibiotic? Well, I know
again, you know the pharma industry which is just so
incredibly big and so engrained into the whole system is all the
all these patents are running out which I'm sure is why ACTA
which we haven't talked about in a while but I'm sure act is
going to have a lot to do with the patents on pharmaceutical
inventions. You know, so all these drugs on many of these
drugs really good and do save lives. But you know, they've
been around for what how long does a patent last on
26 years? Is that it? Pretty much yeah. They figure if you
can make your money in 26 years you know we got to get this
stuff into the public domain
so I guess I'm not able to find anyway it's a it's a medicine
that actually grows your eyelashes and they've got bra
Yeah,
I saw that. Well who is working on these things? And why
what was the name of it? Because because I want to find that
remember the name of
it, but yeah, it grows your eyelashes. This is creepy.
When she shields I can find it in Gmail. I thought I had tagged
that for the for this episode on
Yeah, we'll get it on Sunday and then I'll get it it'll
maybe I deleted it. What the fourth one was I thinking?
Maybe you were too tempted.
How do you spell Brooke with an E?
Well as also Brooks come out our guy. Now I'm talking about
Brooke Shields. Because she
did an E br o Ke.
Maybe somehow it got deleted. Oh, that's too bad. I'll find it
for Sunday. Because when you when you see the commercials
even better, but when you listen to it, you're like, Whoa. Creepy
product. Okay, so what we haven't talked about John. You
know?
Swine Flu?
Yes. And freeze em 76
or less 17 to 20 years depending on filing date. My understanding
was 26. But okay,
freeze em. 76. Probably an alias, says Adam, time for some
real news and it's really time. To really move the swine flu
agenda forward. We need a celebrity to die from swine flu.
And didn't we
suggest this earlier.
And now back to real hair. It comes straight out of Gitmo
nation east the big news is the sugar babes have been struck by
swine flu. UK girlband the Sugar Babies have been struck down
with a deadly swine flu band members Heidi range and Emile
Bhairava have been put into quarantine after sorry, I can't
read with a straight face. I've been put into quarantine after
they develop symptoms of the virus, Keisha 24 admitted, I
definitely don't have the swine flu, but the other girls are all
ill with it. We've had to cancel all our events for the next week
or so while the girls get better. I can't believe I know
someone who has swine flu. I'm sure we'll all laugh when it's
over though. The girls were due to meet the US music mogul Jay Z
this week to talk over promoting their new single get sexy in the
States. But they've been ordered to cancel all promotional duties
on their new track for at least two weeks, including the slot at
the Reading and Leeds festivals this weekend. This is big news,
John. And now back to real.
Well, you know, if I was one of these celebrities, I don't know
how many celebrities per se listen to our show, but I would
not let them quarantine me and I wouldn't even go get tested
because if you disagree take the if they take you off the radar,
you know and then the next thing you know you get the report that
you're dead. They get they get the dead celebrity they want
because it would be useful to promote swine flu vaccine to
have a dead celebrity,
of course, in the UK. And once again, John, we were way ahead
of the curve. We already call this memorial laughing about the
phone consultations. And they should just have a you know if
you are coughing press one if you're hooking up mucus press
two, you have the swine flu. So the United Kingdom is now going
to open up a call centre where you can actually call in if you
suspect that you have the swine flu, and these will be man 2000
People will be on the phones telling you if you indeed have
the swine flu based upon your answers, and then you can have a
swine flu buddy a swine flu buddy can then go pick up some
Tamiflu for you brother looks like they're starting trials in
Australia actually starting as well as Canada. Yeah, yeah, no,
they've they've started the trials in Australia and I'm
gonna This was sent to me when Australia this was sent to me by
several of our producers out there listening to to no
agenda I got one of them to do you have one handy and no
because my email box seems to be not doing its Search properly.
I'm gonna have to pre open these files before we do the show. So
no, I don't
know. Hold on a second. Here it is. This is from Alex. Alexei.
Sydney, Australia. When's it began human trials for a swine
flu vaccine has concerns grew over the disease after its
global death toll past 700. Some 240 adults and 400 children are
involved in the trial at the Royal Adelaide Hospital with the
government hoping to start mass immunisation within months. As
soon as I have confirmed that the vaccine is safe and
effective, I will ensure it can be rolled out to the Community
Health Minister Nicola Roxxon said of course Australia has
already ordered 21 million shots though I guess that would be
enough for for everybody. So here it is. This is the thing
that really freaked me out the CSL bias. So CSL biotherapy. CSL
Limited is who's developing this vaccine said many people had
volunteered for the swine flu vaccine trial because they
wanted to avoid catching the disease. We're talking about
kids between six months and nine years yeah, they volunteered a
six month old kids held up his hand and said, Guess
What a crock that's a good one. It involves
two injections and two blood tests and what they're actually
doing John is there so the first injection is you know of a
regular dose and then they give get a double dose just to see if
there's a difference if it works.
Yeah, right. She that kills them
so they've actually started they've started and you know,
who was the CSL all of a sudden where all the other guys how
many companies are making this stuff?
It looks like about a half of that six or so it looks like to
me and I think they're all variations I'm telling you this
is you know, although the you know, the some people think this
is a attempt to kill call the pump the public, I still think
it's just an attempt to find a an ad adjuvant that works. And
they're gonna just use the public as a testbed.
I'm sending you a forwarding you a message from Doc, who I've
been working with for a long time on podcasting actually got
me set up on on Ableton Live, which has been a lifesaver for
me to be able to produce the show. He's a doctor, and he has
sent me when I was doing daily source code, he would send me
information if He specialises in vaccinations, and he knows a lot
about this stuff. And he sent a I'll just read this to what he
says, always find the agenda consequence of vaccination are a
central point in my job. This often puts me in conflict with
the rest of the medical community, but I have to say
you're doing a good you're doing he's Italian. So it's a little
off. You're doing a good investigative work and you are
on the right path. If you'd like I can give you a lot of info
about adjuvants, old and new or dangerous how Gilead bar is only
the tip of the iceberg. How big pharma knows this and how big
pharma wants this and gets revenue from this find attached
a slide from one of my presentations from last year.
It's about Gardasil, this is the HPV injection John, which now
I'm more convinced probably was a pre adjuvant test, you can get
a hint of the effect of adjuvants. So if you look at
this chart, and do you have it there?
No, I don't. And by the way, Hepatitis B is another one of
these that uses adjuvants to an extreme. So we have so it's
which is a non just like a non unnecessary. I went to my
doctor, I said, What is with us because I heard about this. I
said, Well, who's that he's a reasonably good doctor. I said,
What's with this hepatitis B vaccine, he says you don't want
to hepatitis B V vaccine. So you're working with blood all
day. So when people need it,
so this, this chart, what you can't get your email at all?
Know, sucks. It's the post dose evaluation of injection.
Can you just send me a link to it on the skies?
Well, it's not a link. It's all it's on the
machine. Well, hold
on a second. I can I can do that home. I'll do that for you. Let
me just you'll you'll, you'll freak out of this chart. You
should just love it. Hold on. Okay, because it has, you know,
this will probably kill our sky connection, but it's worth
unnecessarily. It has the adverse experience of pain,
swelling or erythema. arrhythmia, arrhythmia, what's
arrhythmia?
It's palpitations of the heart.
Right? So after receiving a vaccine, after receiving an
aluminium containing placebo, and after receiving a saline
placebo, and you'll see what kind of stuff is going on here.
So I guess I guess it's okay for me to put that chart in the show
notes. I'll wait and I know he's listening. So I'll wait until he
confirms that.
Isn't his chart. Cover up some data? Yeah, so I won't I won't
post that until I hear if we don't like to bust our or moles.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
So let me see there was Canada also gearing up for the trials
that we get Thank you. Let me get that. So I'm
looking at it
it did kind of screw up the Skype a little bit.
This is erythema. I don't know what the theme is.
I don't even look it up. So our
wi th em if somebody wants to look it up on the chat room,
so I know that you receive this email, although you might have
kind of read over this was from this was aired on that or on the
on the website of KPBS. Where a Barbara Ferrer, Executive
Director of the Boston Public Health Commission says, but by
the way, I'm looking at this chart, a show if you're going to
get a shot, tell people whoever's doing it, you want the
saline placebo
Can I have the placebo? Please don't actually give me the shot.
I don't want the real deal.
I'm gonna go ahead.
Okay, I'm looking for this is this is such a wonderful
article. This is where you bust someone. This person says that
they have never used adjuvant in vaccines in America
ever. That's not no, he says in flu vaccines and flu vaccines. I
think that's true with all the other vaccines. A lot of them
have
it. You really think they've never used it in a flu vaccine?
I don't see why they'd have to because they could they could
always hand crank out enough of this stuff. They don't need the
adjuvants. I don't know that it's true, but it doesn't it
doesn't strike me as not being true. Mm hmm.
Okay. Well, I when I read that I kind of read it differently. And
I was like, wait a minute, how can you say that word we have
never
Yeah, just fluid specific to flu, the seasonal flu vaccine?
Because, you know, I know that hepatitis B, for example,
definitely has it. And
you're right. The problem is no us flu vaccine has ever included
an adjuvant. and in Europe experience with adjuvant
containing flu vaccines has been limited to vaccines for the
elderly. Yeah, kill them first. Well, the target for pandemic h1
and one vaccine would largely be children and younger that I love
that the target for the pandemic. There was another
thing the World Health Organisation held a meeting with
all of the health commissioners from their member states, and
they refused to release minutes. Even better than that. They say
no minutes were taken of this meeting. So you know, that's bad
news.
Yeah, well, yeah, they're covering something up and they
don't take minutes. The bite Law says that the reason that during
the testing, they're going to turn these people into antibody
breeders. So you get a whole big test group and then you lock
them up and then you suck the blood out of him because that's
where you can get your
that's what you get what you get your vaccine
vaccine from the blood pool. It's a science fiction story.
I've read it.
We could write it dude, we could so totally right this one. Swine
Flu shots to boost Baxter Baxter company reports. Second quarter
profit increased by 13% 2009. Forecasts raised Yeah, da. Of
course. Let's not forget this is a an Illinois based company
Chicago to be exact. This is all part of the Chicago thugs that
have
ever since they put the live avian flu in their vaccines. I
don't see how they can even be in business. It doesn't make any
sense to me. And no
one is no one has investigated that there's no you know, there
was a someone did ask the equivalent of a congressional
question in the Dutch parliament. No answers come in
yet. But I did see the question. I think it was the Socialist
Party. Or no, the it wasn't. It was the party for animals.
There's an actual animal party in Holland. And they did ask the
Health Minister Hey, you know what's going on? What's with the
force of vaccinations? Have you heard about Baxter? You know,
they'll get an answer sometime after the recess, I'm sure. And
then my my sister who lives in Gitmo nation east in Italy, she
sent in a pretty interesting article which I didn't even know
you you hadn't read John, this
is no I end up blogging it though.
You want to just just summarise it.
Yeah, summarise it. No, I
want you to summarise it.
Oh yeah, some woman who is a science writer with kind of a
sketchy career has sued the WHO brocco bomb and everybody and
their sister for attempting to euthanize the public with the
swine flu shots, which she says are illegal and she did it for
us. vaccination is it's a it's a very interesting thing. It's
probably easier to read the whole thing on the blog. Didn't
listen to the summary but it's an actually interesting lawsuit
but it's an it's kind of backed up unfortunately by David Ickes
and all the other. I mean, it's like, like, like, oh here I
found Matisse John Oh you did? Yeah Chyna house there Latino
rapper Oh
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the teeth, the first and only FDA approved prescription
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for inadequate or not enough lash. It's actually Oh women.
Here's
the name of the John. It's called bimah tro post off limits
solution. What is it
for Nazis things like my wife. Hey,
let's see solution is is a prescription treatment for hip.
Hip truck hip truck. Oh god, you did a great job. Here hipster
cosas hipster Kosis used to grow eyelashes making them longer
thicker and darker. But now listen to the side effects
are inadequate or not enough lashes applied nightly as
instructed by your doctor. The team grows lashes in as little
as eight weeks with full results in 12 to 16. If you are using
prescription products for lowering eye pressure or have a
history of eye pressure problems only use Lutece under close
Doctor care may cause eyelid skin darkening which may be
reversible and there is potential for increased brown
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or experience any eye problems or have eye surgery. Consult
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Like shot my lashes honey I don't know You look like you've
been smoking dope for a month
right? Here's the best part here comes right for
you. Find a doctor@matisse.com Find a
doctor@latif.com
Oh, these doctors doctors should be boycotted anybody on that
list.
And it's Brooke Shields doing this whole commercial. So I know
Brooke Shields should does she This is terrible. Yeah. And I
really like her. I want to like her, but I can't like her
anymore. This is so wrong. So wrong. Using it? Probably not.
We were when we were talking about the co op. What was that?
John the national was that thing we were talking about? Wondering
if it was a if it was if it was a commercial entity
or a operation that we looked into last week? Yeah.
So producer Brett says I went to sat at Cincinnati and was in the
coop engineering programme. I assure you that it's a for
profit enterprise. And the students get paid. I did quite
nicely. Thank you. Oh, yeah, well, that's good. Yeah, that's
good to know.
And passing the money around to the students. The kids the
children. Yes.
That's good. It's a good thing. Here we go mass immunisation
exercise in Canada, Andrew, from get mo nation from Gitmo nation
light as we call it up there and Canadia. After looking at all
the reports on forced vaccinations in the US, Adam and
John I started to look around to see if there's anything
happening in Canada. To my surprise, the Canadian federal
government, along with the provincial government of Ontario
had been running mass immunisation exercises in
Canada. These exercises have been happening in the northern
parts of the province away from the media and cameras and had
been run since a run using the ONET Onida of the Thames and
constant Lake First Nation communities. What are these like
Eskimos
first nations like all Native American Native the livers there
that Native Americans that are native Canadians, that's what
they are North
Americans. They selected these groups of people due to the
quote different populations, D geographic circumstances and
emergency plans and each carried out the exercise differently to
reflect their specific circumstances and needs.
Nonetheless, common goals and outcomes were identified through
a coordinated approach and can be taken into consideration by
other communities planning mass immunisation exercises in
Ontario. The exercise tested each community's ability to
provide immunizations safely and efficiently to as many people as
possible in a one hour period.
Yeah. Okay, what are they going to do? Can you see Genesis on
our
A man is like, boop boop boop boop boop. God hammering that
shit out. So there's a he has so much I wish he had a link to
some of this but
you didn't have to go back to the gun if they're going to do
that much shooting
the vaccine gun. Yeah. Absolutely. Ah, there's just so
much you know, and I'd really like to ask you to no longer
email me these stories because I can't keep track of them if you
put them at drop.io/daily source code or I think it's actually no
agenda drop.com
You can you can email them to me but you have to put no agenda or
N A in the subject line.
And, John, if you'd like a nice little trip, we could take some
of our money and go to con for a pen flew back, which is another
fine conference in con Yes, in con. That's right.
Like the way they're going with such a low budget operation pan
flu vac
or, F man these words and efficacious vaccine formulation
system for proper, prophylactic control of inflicting
prophylactic control of influenza pandemics is a
specific targeted research and innovation project financed by
the sixth Framework Programme of the European Union. Yes, let's
go to Khan, European Union bastards. Pan flu vac.org
In the middle of summer, so we can go to the topless beach and
look around
a nice rack he I got some jeans, I couldn't
find a hotel in console, I had to stay in Santro pay down the
street
hold the thing and like you know, Dusseldorf it will make
more sense in terms of the fact it's a junket. So of course,
it's a junket,
of course, it's a huge junket.
And the problem is, of course, being there that would take all
of our monies out of the entire fund that we are putting
together so we can do a third show a week. That's what we're
trying to do. But we're still not getting, we're getting you
know, we get a lot of people we're getting on Sunday, I'll
list the current donors, but we, you know, we still need more
donations, we have a lot of listeners. And I know a lot of
them don't want to donate to anything. And which I don't
blame him even though you know, by the way, you can take debit
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50 or $100 It'd be great. We've got one guy would send us
$51.54, who all mentioned by name on Sunday, but the coat
What do you think? 5154 it this is one of the more weird or
screwball things
anyone's can hopefully I have no idea what's 51 If you have punch
in h one n one. Keypad?
50? Good. 151 54 I like it. We'd like to just be our code 5154
Well, maybe it's 50. What? Yes. 5150 for each one. That doesn't
sound right. Cuz it would have to be
h one n one. No, it can't be it would have to know the H 55. Oh,
H? No, because it would be
I maybe I got the wrong number. We'll figure it out on Sunday,
we'll talk about it, I'll take the money anyway. I don't care.
It's good. Money, I keep track, I can't get my email. So we need
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Yeah, there are many people who just don't have the financial.
So we're not saying you have to you know, absolutely. But the
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Let me just tell you about a couple of other links that
because I didn't realise this until I went to no agenda
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me just John their own links out there that is it's unbelievable
and I encourage you to go to no agenda forums.com So of course
we have no agenda@squarespace.com We have
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no agenda dot mobi. No agenda dot n l we have a Facebook page.
We have no agenda wiki.com no agenda jingles.
We have. By the way, we're not doing these sites.
No, we're not. Then there's a I'm mobile Blackberry app, which
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And we're the only show like this.
I believe so. Did you see the the new recruit we have John and
I think this should be the album art for this episode. Have you
seen this one? I forwarded it to you from producer Patrick the
stallion. Hey, guys, in order to prepare my new baby girl against
the New World Order. I decided I give her the best source of real
news from the get go. Here she is in this beautiful picture.
Three hours old flavie Bisabolol and born July 21 2009 In the
morning, and there's a picture of a Blackberry with headphones
stuck on this poor kid's head with with no agenda running on
the BlackBerry and there's a little PS I was originally
planning on using my ipod touch to simulate an iPhone but I was
afraid we'd end up on Adams journalist. Cheers from Gitmo
nation East Montreal. Feel free to use Patrick not yet producer
but soon to be oh man, you're if you're listening, you're a
producer. And this is a while you've you've you've given your
child's image to us. That's quite a contribution. I think
that should be the album Mark, John.
Alright, go for it. That's fine. I think as you know, we should
probably make that a poster. A T shirt, a t shirt or a poster or
the T shirts for sale yet. I don't know that I'm gonna work
on the t shirt thing with the different guys that want to do t
shirts. I'm going to do it this week. Good. Which means I got
tomorrow to finish the job. Really? It really is all over
it. By the way, how long do you want this show to go today we're
at 140.
And we were out of control. This is what I'm saying? We really
there's so much stuff to go through that we need to do this
third show a week. But we can't do it based upon what we're
getting in donations right now. We just can't We can't even do
these two shows based upon the donations.
Right? It's true. It says, if we're doing it two hours in the
door, you know what we get income is zero. So but anyway,
go to no agenda.squarespace.com or
groups. That illusia digit. Yeah, for a second there, you're
back
to work.org/enable We actually had a pretty good connection
today. So
certainly don't invite the boogeyman and wrap it up. Yeah.
And if you want to have a good laugh, checkout, future world
currency.com That's for a real good laugh if you want to see
the future of our money as President Medvedev Jeff held up
that coin recently. This is the website for it future world
currency.com It's a fun one. All right, way over time, I'd say.
Yeah, you're on a roll. So I was I wasn't gonna stop you.
Let me see. Well, we had let me just see if we how many people
on we got? We got a good amount of people listening. Of course,
we want you to listen at the office.
Yes, and we're going to come up with a splash screen that will
make it look like something legit. So I'll work on that in
the next week or so. And then it'll be a screen with a little
player at the bottom but it's gonna say you're listening to a
management training seminar.
Coming to you from the minimum security containment cell in the
crackpot command centre Gitmo nation West, the undisclosed
location in San Francisco, California. I'm Adam curry.
And from the foggy northern Silicon Valley, the place that
doesn't exist yet. We're here I'm John C. Dvorak and
we will talk to you again this coming Sunday, same place more
or less the same time right here. On no agenda.