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I love that lined put to death.
Adam curry, John C. Dvorak.

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It's Sunday August 9 2009. And
time for your gizmo nation audio

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publication episode number 120.
This is no agenda coming to you

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from the minimum security
containment cell which houses

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the crackpot command centre in
Gitmo nation West still under

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threat of eminent domain
demolition. In San Francisco,

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I'm Adam curry.

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And I'm John C. Dvorak.

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Dragwon. Buzzkill.

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The hell was that?

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I know you were falling all over
yourself. And so I figured we

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better finish it up.

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There's plenty of time that
wasn't falling over myself. I

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just had a little pregnant pause
there.

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I know I always thought there
was. I missed the beat in there

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because I thought there was a
you said that and then there

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would be some beat but there was
nothing was just

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Adam curry and then that's when
you're supposed to come in with

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coming from wherever the
buzzkill bunker.

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You won't do it again. Not
necessarily.

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Now. All right. Hey, John. How
are you? Good. Yeah, it's gonna

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be hot today.

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It looks beautiful. today. Well,
I where you are, it's gonna be

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really hot in a city. It'll be
just nice. And there'll be nice

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breeze and a nice sun.

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I don't know. It's hard to say.
I think the city's gonna be

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pretty much the same.

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It was beautiful yesterday.

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So it was a little it was it was
good here. But it wasn't great.

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I got a call on Friday from Did
you ever hook up with taxi Eric

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in in Amsterdam when you were
there?

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Yeah, he took me to the he took
me to the airport

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right now. Does this seem like a
like a pretty stable guy

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reasonable down to earth guy?

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Yeah, yeah, he's a little
probably multitasks a little too

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much.

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What do you mean? What does that
supposed to mean?

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Well, I mean, he's on the phone.
He's on the radio. He's doing 20

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things at once. Vacchiano was
ran into a lorry.

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So he calls me on Friday. He
says, Hey, dude, you know, like,

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my daughter's coming back from
Spain. We have to leave on

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Sunday. But you know, she has
the swine flu, which of course

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is called Mexican flu. And I'm
really worried. I don't think I

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should go on vacation. I can't
leave her alone. She's like 19

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years old. And he was really
freaking out because they've got

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this whole thing going now in
Gitmo nation east over there,

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where they have a couple of
celebrities who have been

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quarantined for four days
quarantine. And even though he,

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you know, I've talked to him
about this many times, he was

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still really freaked out. He
actually called me to say, oh,

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man, I wish I do. And you know,
what's going to happen? And

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everyone is now saying the media
in Holland. Oh, you know, this,

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Spain is the hotbed every all
the kids are, they're hanging

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out together, they're on
vacation, they're all going to

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come back and they're going to
die. And I really had to talk

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them down. It took them like a
half an hour.

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They were on the ledge.

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He was he was flipping out. I
was like, Wow, man. And yeah.

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And he's pretty, he's a pretty
stable guy.

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So I'll just take much to get
the public riled up. I mean, you

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know if that's, I mean, the
Germans learned that from World

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War One. Really, that one of the
things that

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you win World War One, how do
they rile up the public?

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Well known speakers, the Nazis,
specifically gurbles.

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With us World War Two, John,

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if you're not let me finish,
sorry. The Nazis specifically

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gurbles looked over at the
propaganda that was developed

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during World War One by the
Americans, mainly because we

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had, you know, essentially, were
the ones who invented public

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relations for all practical
purposes. And we've developed a

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lot of these techniques. And so
during World War One we had put

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out that fact you can look these
up, I think, there many of them

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are in the Library of Congress
and elsewhere in their public

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domain. And there's these
posters, showing the Germans as

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giant gorillas raping women, and
just all this is really nasty

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stuff to get the public all
riled up. So we would buy into

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actually going to this idiotic
World War One, which costs us a

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bunch of people and

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a bunch, just a bunch of people

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questionable to do it. You know,
it was just a mess. It was a one

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of the worst, you know, wars in
terms of just bloodbath.

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It was truly the Great War,
right? That's what they called

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it. Yeah.

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And so the so gurbles is, you
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isn't that easy. He essentially
made an art of doing kind of

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doing the same thing in Germany,
based on World War One, and how

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the Germans were portrayed in
the whole thing and that they

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essentially created a propaganda
machine. And it turns out, it

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worked pretty well for a while.
It works really well all the

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time.

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Of course, needed a lot of
stupid people in order for that

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to work, which of course is
exactly the same group of people

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who you can then turn it into a
revolution to fight that.

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You can. We're trying well, not
to take a shot of adjuvant.

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Before I forget a quick catch
up, William till this Lee, one

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of our listener producers out
there, and then we were talking

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about law and order and how they
were all over the world wasn't

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the measles vaccination. And
that was that whole episode that

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we discussed last time easels
episode, we had the measles

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episode. And we were trying to
figure out, you know, what are

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the ties? And I think I asserted
that, you know, an expensive

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drama series like this. It's not
unthinkable that money's flowing

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in from somewhere to to get
these absolutely propaganda

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scripts onto the air.

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Right. I think when you really
extrapolate your idea, I think

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what you were implying was that
the drug companies which right

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now are I think doing it must be
doing half the advertising on

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television for these ridiculous.
screwball restless legs syndrome

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and other drugs would possibly
be,

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could no longer grow longer,
longer eyelashes. Yeah,

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that's another one. Yeah, who
would take a drug for that? I

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mean, it's just doesn't sound
right. Brooke Shields,

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apparently. And Brooke does it
everybody can do it. But yeah, I

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mean, particularly the news
networks, just pay attention for

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don't tune out when the
commercials come on tune in that

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moment, and write it down even.
And you'll see that you know, I

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think it's even more John, and
maybe a higher percentage of

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advertising on the news networks
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The under new during a news
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the things you run into on
television is targeted

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advertising. So they they try to
figure out who's watching the

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news. And you can kind of watch
the ads and figure out what

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demographic is primary to that
show based on the ads, right? So

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if it's all about every heads
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it's all about Viagra, Viagra,
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know, it's like you're an older
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and you should turn off your TV
quickly. Anyway, to get back to

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the story, Dick Wolf produces
law and order. And, as I said,

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our producer William tiltedly,
sent in, it's actually from

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Wikipedia. So take it with a
grain of salt, you must, in

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addition to have to having been
a classmate of former President

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George W. Bush. Wolf was the
employer of Fred Thompson, who

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sought the Republican nomination
for president in 2008. With the

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help with the national attention
again playing the district

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attorney on law and order that
connection we could have made

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the the Fred Thompson
connection. Yeah, we'll support

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a Thompson as big as he did
bushes, and has been reported

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that he contributed money to
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officially announced that he was
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quid pro quo in there or
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I don't know Thompson's got
anything to do with the drug

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companies.

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Don't these guys all have
something to do with the drug

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companies? Doesn't every single
politician takes some money from

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a pharmaceutical company
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Well, yeah, and they all take
money from health care

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companies, too. But the I don't
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measles show us some rigged of
something that was something

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screwy about it. There was too
much way too much propaganda in

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there.

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Have you been following the deal
that the White House apparently

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has made with the pharmaceutical
industry? John? No, this is the

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and the reporting is lacklustre
at best. Because of course, we

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don't actually know what was
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where Rahm Emanuel, of course,
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his have had their conversations
with firma, which is this

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organisation of the fart of the
pharmaceutical industry PHR ma

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they've dropped the A for extra
Asel convenience. Here's the

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deal, as I understand that the
pharmaceutical industry has

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agreed to reduce the cost of
health care. So drugs. Actually,

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they're doing a drug deal by $80
billion over 10 years, which is

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okay, you know, I'm not quite
sure what the total

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pharmaceutical industry take is
per year, but so that's 8

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billion a year not
insignificant. But what I

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understand on the first of all,
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President promise promises 80
billion and you're hearing

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Pelosi and other Democrats
saying, Well, you know, we'll

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see if it's remains at bla bla
bla. So there's a little bit of

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friction there. But the deal
then seems to be that on the

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Medicare side, there would be no
caps on cod on pricing of

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medication that the pharma
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Medicare. What Yes. Yeah,
exactly. And by the way, this is

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from the president who of
course, lambasted drug companies

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during his campaign. And and now
he's just sitting down and doing

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it's a drug deal. It is
literally a drug deal.

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I'm sure that's not going to
help these days. I mean, the

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people that are moaning and
groaning the most are Medicare,

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Medicaid people, yet Is townhall
meetings which have been turned

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into a fiasco?

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It is. I mean, yes, it is a
fiasco. I'm not quite, maybe,

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maybe I'm missing something but
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this because this is this is the
entire newscast is all about the

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astroturf and you know, right
wing groups and pharmaceutical

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shills who are standing up and
making a big mess of these

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townhall meetings. But isn't
that exactly what democracy is

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supposed to be where you you
organise and you and you and you

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organise your your opinions,
your thoughts and your side?

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Both LEFT, RIGHT centre,
whatever? I mean, can we

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express them? Yeah,

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don't ya don't we have the SEIU
the unions are very well

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organised, they might add with
nice looking signs and in great

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websites, and that

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was one of the main SEIU guys is
also the one of the main acorn

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guys, by the way.

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Well, what exactly is the SEIU

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and nervous employees is service
employer? Service Employees

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International Union? Okay, but

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who's in it? Who's a service
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It's the same people that would
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is that after as well? Is that

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after? No, no, it'd be the same
as me. What asked me American

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Federation of service is State
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same government, state
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don't they already have great
health care government employees

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know? Some do? Yeah. Okay. Some
don't. Well, actually, that you

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mention it as most SEIU people
would probably. Yeah, they

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would, it seems to me, but

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most of them aren't. But most of
them are government employees,

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or am I misunderstanding that
who who is who is a member of a

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union that belongs to the
service employee? What is a

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service employee?

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Is that a waiter? Well, let's
take a look at their website and

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see who they cater to.

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I've been looking at the SEIU.
And by the way, we missed a

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fantastic opportunity. The title
of the webpage, which I will

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post in the show notes and no
agenda amiibo.com is SEIU

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Mythbusters. Called with H H. S.
Secretary Sebelius. And this was

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a conference call which we could
have attended. I've looked for

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audio, I can't find anything
online. Of course, people jumped

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in and, and I've written about
it, saying that Sebelius who was

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of course, is the health
secretary, and Bilderberger.

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I saw her the other day, by the
way, giving a talk on C span.

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And by the way, people out there
we watch C span for you. Yes.

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And I thought she was kind of
creepy. No, she's

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extremely creepy. Did you see
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that later. But anyway, so in
this in this call, and I've only

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seen transcripts of it. She
called her brothers and sisters

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to arms more or less, saying
we've got to go, you know, bust

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these myths, and the SEIU
website seiu.org. You know,

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it's, you know, they're praising
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post. So it's kind of, you know,
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personally. But I just like to
know exactly who the Service

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Employees are and what they do.

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I'm trying to see what what
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you, there's four major unions
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and then out here to some like
Cal summarise what's apps me

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here members, American
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Municipal Employees.

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So it is all government? Well,
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they asked me is for sure, but
asked me is like one of the is

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not as powerful as SEIU, which
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become. When we were unionising,
the air pollution district. We

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were we were actually refused.
They didn't want to talk to us.

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And we ended up joining apps me
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sup brother can't remember the
name and what were you doing at

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the time, John? was an air
pollution inspector. Of course.

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This was during the last

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good job, by the way. Good
inspections, you really have no

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idea. You clean that shit out.
It was here before whenever.

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Okay. So I'll let you slide. It
doesn't even say who?

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I'm trying to figure out who
lived there. It'll be in here.

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Let me I'm digging. I'm guessing
it's like the post office. Oh,

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boy. Here's a nurse Alliance.
There's must be some nurses in

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SEIU, then. Teachers. I guess
the nurses really need the help.

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So anyway, the point being that

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somebody in the chat room might
know who what who's

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the point being that you know,
so there are rowdy townhall

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meetings going on, which by the
way, I love you know, they're

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not all supposed to be these
orchestrated things that

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President Obama did. As with
people who have, you know, he

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knows who to call on the
questions are pre screened, it's

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80 to 90, maybe even 100%.
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agenda when he's speaking at
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orderly. And, of course, what a
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about getting in people's face
and yelling and screaming. And,

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you know, I do believe that
there should, you should be able

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to have some kind of order in
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don't know if it's really
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someone stands up in front of
the podium and says, here's what

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we're going to do ask a
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does not answer the question.
People get angry people get

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riled up. And that can come from
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it's being organised. I mean,
the SEIU is just as much an

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organiser of pro

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Pro, they are more of an
organiser than then they look,

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they look very, very
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But then you get Nancy Pelosi
saying, astroturf and I saw some

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of them with swastikas, like,
okay. You know, that's, that's a

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guys, one of our listeners is in
the SEIU, and he's a county

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employee. So that's exactly why
the SEIU doesn't just, I mean,

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why are they for this bill,
which is I think there's, you

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know, the problem with these
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these, these meetings, they have
these executive meetings, where

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they where they train you, you
know, so you can learn about,

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you know, what you're how you're
supposed to do things as a

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union. And and lot of it has to
it seems to be I think the

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unions have been largely taken
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because they tell you, you know,
they just almost corrupt I just,

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that's a whole show. But, but it
seems to me that, that doesn't

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make a lot of sense for me for
the SEIU and acorn, to be in bed

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together on this health care
thing when they already have

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health care, unless it's to pull
the health care, you know, is to

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shift the burden somehow, to
benefit somebody,

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you know what it's about? Yes, I
know what it's about. I just

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figured it out

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jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs, let's
vote for jobs.

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That's what it's about man jobs,
wasn't what the unions, the huge

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supporters of President Obama
during the election and they

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give him lots and lots of money.

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Yeah, but that's because the
unions traditionally give the

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money to the Democrats who cater
to them. Okay,

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how about auto workers? Are they
in the SEIU?

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No, no, that's that's the Union.
The UAW was a member of that

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too, by the way, which I think

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was What were you doing at the
time, John, putting doors on

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Chevy's.

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I've actually been in two
different locals of the UAW and

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tell me what are you doing? What
kind of job was working on an

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assembly line during the summer
when I was a student in school,

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right, putting

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doors on Chevy's What was your
actual

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job? Didn't get the door job.
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did you have on the assembly
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Tell me one of them was putting
making these hose assembly sub

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assemblies for for a, for a
device that oil day, high

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temperature clutch on an
International Harvester truck?

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Are those the ones that got
recalled in 1973, because they

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were blowing up because of some
faulty tubing.

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It wouldn't surprise me. And so
that's actually a story there.

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Because I was like doing doing
this stupid game, you have to

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blow out this gobbly goo that's
inside with this high pressure

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hose and takes forever. So the
thing flies out, and a couple of

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them got through without being
perfect. I've been blown out.

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And so that got called into the
office. faulty product for at

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the park door.

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I come here for a second, I
gotta talk to you soon. And

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what'd he say?

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By doing it? I had some faulty
parts. And I was getting chewed

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out. And I had to and also my
speed was too slow. I wasn't

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going fast enough. So anyway, so
it goes. So I get chewed out for

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this. But he didn't fire me and
I went back to work. And again,

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I just kind of upped the ante a
little bit. And that's the year

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by the way, I learned that the
next time I was going to get any

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job whatsoever is either going
to be as a receiving clerk, or

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an inspector, which I did the
next year. As a matter of fact,

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I became a receiving clerk. And
that's the best job because

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you're you are not responsible
for productivity.

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Did you have the stapler?

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Read one. Yeah. So anyway, but
then being finished the story.

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So So I was always kind of irked
by the fact that I couldn't keep

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up the pace, because I was
working as fast as I could. And

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I was young, you know, I should
have been able to keep but I

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couldn't. Two or two or three
years laters a big news report

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about a big amphetamine bust at
this place. They go that's the

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reason you weren't taken go
Awesome. Anyway, so that's

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American productivity is based
largely on amphetamines.

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And thank you that's that's a
sound drop I've ever heard one.

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What come What? What fine
automotive company was that.

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But that was International
Harvester. But I've worked for

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International Harvester trail
mobiel. And Ford, although the

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Ford experience was was kind of
sketchy, and they and they

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affected showed up on my, on my
employee break down, I didn't

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ever hire this guy again.
Because with Ford, first I got

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this job at Ford, and it was a
graveyard shift. And it was

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doing some, some exactly
maintenance. And then, but then

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like the next day, this is, by
the way, this during the summer

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when you were going to school,
and either in high school or

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college, and you can get these
jobs nowadays kids can't get

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anything to do. Anyway should
like the next day, I got a call

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from schmira NOF to work on the
set on the line of the bottling

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line.

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And they headhunted you off the
auto assembly line.

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No, no, I had to apply for jobs
here and there. And then one

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day, I got the fourth job. And
then the next day, I got the

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schmear enough job. So I decided
I'll take both.

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Now that's a true American right
there.

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That we're gonna we're both full
time eight hour jobs. And it

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just, it just turned out that
the timing was just bright

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enough that I could do both of
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You can liquor liquor up on the
graveyard shift and then hit the

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the methamphetamines in the
morning. And you were

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well, I probably should have
done it that way. But so what

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happened was, I took that for
gym work in the grave, and then

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I go right to the other job. And
I would work there and then I go

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home and try to get some sleep.
And I did this for about a month

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making plenty of money. Because
it was you know, these are real

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jobs with real money. So I'm
walking out of the Ford plant

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through a gate and I had a white
flash. It was unbelievable. I've

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observed was I still remember
it's just like a flash of white.

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And so I think at this not good

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is that when they took you up
and probed you rectally,

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so I got this white flash. So
two days led later, I had a like

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a full blown case of
mononucleosis. Wow. And I had to

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couldn't do either job, but I
went on, on disability or

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whatever. It's some full pay. I
never did the rest. For

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two jobs full full pay for two
jobs.

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I think I don't know if I got
the full pay for the schmear

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enough. I don't remember that
because it's the state gives you

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the benefits. I think you just
get the one you get one big

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check. And so I was getting the
job. So that's why Ford wouldn't

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rehire me because they had to
get comes out at some fund.

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Yesterday, you know, because I'm
now employed in the US by by me

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Do we have unemployment
insurance at the company? Do you

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know that? And all you have to
do is pay the taxes over the

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company pays for it, but you
just pay the taxes or something

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like that. And, and if you have
orts disabilities, disability,

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short term, long term disability
and unemployment, it's like it's

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like some huge big deal. It's
amazing. You have to

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di l employers in California
have to provide these things.

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It's but it's an insurance. I
mean, it's not like you know,

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yeah, but it's an insurance like
80% of your paycheck.

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Yeah, no, that's good. Yeah, it
is good. So anyway,

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oh, I hurt myself, I have to
stay home.

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So anyway, so I had this. So I

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Alright, so let's get back to
these Daniels again. So I still

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don't understand that I just
don't understand who they are,

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what they're doing what the big
deal is, they clearly must have

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see some benefit. And they
totally understand the health

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care care bill better than I do,
or better than anyone else on

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television can do explaining it.
Otherwise, they wouldn't be so

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passionate about defending it.
So I'm just interested in this

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organisation who Kathleen
Sebelius calls her brothers and

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sisters, and is calling them to
arms to bust bust the myth. The

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myth I should say, which of
course is not is not really a

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myth, because I believe that
senior citizens are correct. And

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we've discussed this and this is
what socialised medicine is all

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about, indeed, at a certain
point, someone makes a decision

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or there's a book or there's a
regulation or there's something

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written down that says, you
know, you weren't the end of

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your life, and we're not going
to provide anything anymore,

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except a nice way to to end. And
even that, of course, is

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questionable. But that's what it
is, you know, you Where are you

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going to put the resources, you
can't keep prolonging people's

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lives forever and ever and ever.
When you need health care for

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younger people, children who
have their entire productivity

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productive lives ahead of them.
So that's the choice that's

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made. It's very simple. Oh, and
by the way, everyone who voted

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for President Obama, saying,
Yeah, we need health care. You

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and other fuckers are gonna have
to pay for it. And now it's Oh,

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not my backyard.

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I don't want to pay for it. 50
bucks. syntax,

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which, of course, is what it's
going to be, we're going to have

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a base rate of 50%. Tax.

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So, yeah,

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yeah, so sure, sure. Right. So,

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yeah, well, it's the way it is,

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I live with it.

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We have to. I mean, I have mixed
feelings about the whole thing,

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because our health care system
is not doing this. I mean, if

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you start looking at either the
mortality, morbidity rates, the

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children's birth, the mortality
rates, and all the rest of it,

443
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our numbers are not that good
compared to any country in

444
00:25:35,969 --> 00:25:39,329
Europe. There's not one we don't
beat one country on anything. We

445
00:25:39,329 --> 00:25:41,849
don't have life expectancy.
That's as good as anybody in

446
00:25:41,849 --> 00:25:45,509
Europe, especially the French.
And we don't we just not even

447
00:25:45,509 --> 00:25:49,049
we're not up to par We suck is
because of what makes our system

448
00:25:49,049 --> 00:25:49,949
the world's greatest.

449
00:25:49,979 --> 00:25:52,739
I don't see I don't think it's
the healthcare system. I believe

450
00:25:52,739 --> 00:25:57,449
that is a different problem that
we are eating crap.

451
00:25:58,109 --> 00:26:01,139
By wood that that doesn't
explain infant mortality eating

452
00:26:01,139 --> 00:26:01,589
crap.

453
00:26:01,740 --> 00:26:02,670
What are you talking about?

454
00:26:02,670 --> 00:26:05,880
Of course it does. Okay, you're
right. If mom's eating crap,

455
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:06,480
mom's eating

456
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:11,220
crap. You know, what, John, have
we discussed? baby formula on

457
00:26:11,220 --> 00:26:13,710
the show a couple of times? What
kind of crap is in the baby

458
00:26:13,710 --> 00:26:14,880
formula from China?

459
00:26:17,369 --> 00:26:19,889
You know, China. Well, okay. But
it The point is, is that we're

460
00:26:19,889 --> 00:26:21,629
not number one by any means.

461
00:26:22,289 --> 00:26:24,779
But I just disagree that it has
to do with health care, I

462
00:26:24,779 --> 00:26:29,759
believe it has more to do with
how we live. And what we think

463
00:26:29,909 --> 00:26:32,429
you are, what you eat, you are
what you eat. That's just the

464
00:26:32,459 --> 00:26:37,589
end of the story. And by the
way, the European Union, just

465
00:26:37,589 --> 00:26:40,289
the story just came in last
night, I'm going to look it up

466
00:26:40,289 --> 00:26:46,169
because I wasn't quite prepared
for it. They have stopped all

467
00:26:46,169 --> 00:26:51,029
imports of soy from the United
States because of traces of GMO

468
00:26:51,029 --> 00:26:54,359
corn in the soy. God. Yeah.

469
00:26:55,349 --> 00:26:56,609
What's it doing in there?

470
00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,690
Well, that's a good question.
But it comes in through so they

471
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,510
they've turned a tanker around
in Italy, or I'm not sure if

472
00:27:03,510 --> 00:27:06,720
they've turned it around. But
they've they've stopped it from

473
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,780
unloading. Same goes for
Germany. Now, of course, this is

474
00:27:09,780 --> 00:27:16,530
a problem because we need this
to feed our our cattle. When it

475
00:27:16,530 --> 00:27:19,230
gets to die, save that story. I
guess I didn't have to look for

476
00:27:19,230 --> 00:27:26,730
it again. And and, you know,
after August, this supplier is

477
00:27:26,730 --> 00:27:28,050
going to start running short.

478
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:34,590
Is that all you have to say?

479
00:27:36,059 --> 00:27:37,589
One that surprises me?

480
00:27:38,910 --> 00:27:44,100
Well, it does kind of surprise
me because I guess not. No,

481
00:27:44,100 --> 00:27:48,540
you're right. I guess not. But
how does how does the corn GMO

482
00:27:48,780 --> 00:27:52,050
genetically modified corn get
into soy? Is that normal?

483
00:27:52,619 --> 00:27:56,549
Some? No, I don't know that it
needs to be explained to me. I

484
00:27:56,549 --> 00:27:59,879
don't get it. Somebody just sent
me a Skype message saying that

485
00:27:59,939 --> 00:28:02,459
the Canadians also eat crap. The
fact of the matter is actually

486
00:28:02,459 --> 00:28:05,669
the kids don't eat as much crap
as we do. And the Canadians, by

487
00:28:05,669 --> 00:28:09,599
the way, kick our asses when it
comes to morbidity and mortality

488
00:28:09,599 --> 00:28:12,929
rates and birth. Dis they're all
the rest of it. I mean, they

489
00:28:12,929 --> 00:28:14,009
totally kick our ass.

490
00:28:15,539 --> 00:28:17,309
I still don't think it has to do
with health care.

491
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:18,780
I'm just saying.

492
00:28:18,809 --> 00:28:24,209
Yeah. Okay. And by the way, you
have health care that we

493
00:28:24,209 --> 00:28:26,549
provide. John, we've discussed
this, I have health care that we

494
00:28:26,549 --> 00:28:28,469
provide. Does it suck?

495
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,010
No, it doesn't suck at all. But
it's like, you know,

496
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,500
are you paying too much for it?
Do you feel that it's too

497
00:28:34,500 --> 00:28:35,190
expensive?

498
00:28:37,140 --> 00:28:39,870
Well, it is expensive. If you
pay for health. If you're like

499
00:28:39,870 --> 00:28:43,980
an individual, it's extremely
expensive. But if you're getting

500
00:28:43,980 --> 00:28:46,500
it through a company, it's not
that bad, but it's still not

501
00:28:46,500 --> 00:28:49,020
cheap. In fact, I think the
company I think a lot of reasons

502
00:28:49,020 --> 00:28:50,970
they wanted to slaughter these
companies, smaller ones in

503
00:28:50,970 --> 00:28:54,210
particular all for this Obama
idea. So they get out from under

504
00:28:54,210 --> 00:28:54,660
this

505
00:28:56,130 --> 00:28:59,910
which means what they have less
profit or they are more

506
00:28:59,940 --> 00:29:02,100
and more profit, the company is
gonna have more profit because

507
00:29:02,100 --> 00:29:04,230
that responsibility for
healthcare gets shifted to the

508
00:29:04,230 --> 00:29:04,770
government.

509
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:10,380
So at the end of the day, it's
not actually the health care.

510
00:29:10,380 --> 00:29:14,760
It's the it's the scam between
pharmacy Well, it's a massive

511
00:29:14,940 --> 00:29:17,400
scam. It's really a Ponzi
scheme. When you think about it,

512
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,220
it's doctors who are on the
payroll subsidy. prescribing

513
00:29:20,220 --> 00:29:23,340
shit you may or may not need or
maybe just doesn't even work.

514
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,300
Those prices are jacked up by
the pharmaceutical industry and

515
00:29:27,300 --> 00:29:30,540
they're insured by the insurance
industry. It's a huge scam.

516
00:29:31,259 --> 00:29:34,469
No, there's a fact a pharmacist
we used to have down the street

517
00:29:34,469 --> 00:29:40,499
here in Albany, the said that he
noticed and he's like at 90 and

518
00:29:40,499 --> 00:29:43,619
he said that he's noticed once
the insurance scam began which

519
00:29:43,619 --> 00:29:46,109
was back in the 50s and that's
where it all went downhill

520
00:29:46,109 --> 00:29:48,629
that's when it started. Yeah, it
says once it began and all of a

521
00:29:48,629 --> 00:29:51,479
sudden prices started going up
and things start changing used

522
00:29:51,479 --> 00:29:54,779
to be when I was a kid used to
be able to have doctor used to

523
00:29:54,779 --> 00:29:55,949
make a house call.

524
00:29:57,089 --> 00:29:59,669
Even when I when I was a kid a
doctor would make a house call

525
00:29:59,759 --> 00:30:02,729
and And then I remembered
everyone's saying, your doctor

526
00:30:02,729 --> 00:30:05,309
makes house calls. And then
we're still kind of making house

527
00:30:05,309 --> 00:30:07,529
calls. But yeah, that doesn't
really well, I wouldn't say

528
00:30:07,529 --> 00:30:11,819
that. In the Netherlands. I
think you still they've set it

529
00:30:11,819 --> 00:30:15,449
up pretty well over there. There
are absolute caps on what can be

530
00:30:15,449 --> 00:30:19,889
charged for medicine and doctors
aren't rich over there. And

531
00:30:19,889 --> 00:30:22,049
they're in their socialised
system. And it's been going for

532
00:30:22,049 --> 00:30:23,969
a long time, but they're
changing that now, too. They

533
00:30:23,969 --> 00:30:27,479
just changed it, where, in fact,
everyone's it's skyrocketed,

534
00:30:27,479 --> 00:30:30,659
because now you have to have
your own private insurance. And

535
00:30:30,899 --> 00:30:35,189
you know, the fact that country
is so screwed. They have no

536
00:30:35,189 --> 00:30:38,969
idea. They'd like to beta test
for all of this evil shit we get

537
00:30:38,969 --> 00:30:44,429
over here. Speaking of which,
just to break it up, John, this

538
00:30:44,429 --> 00:30:49,679
has been circling around the
internet's Vincent Xavier. Have

539
00:30:49,679 --> 00:30:55,439
you ever heard of this radio
dude? Yeah. Okay, what do you

540
00:30:55,439 --> 00:30:55,559
know,

541
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,070
I made a clip of what you I know
what you're gonna play? Watch.

542
00:31:00,510 --> 00:31:02,970
We blog this, this is the guy
who says that we're gonna get

543
00:31:02,970 --> 00:31:06,600
bombed on you. I know that
there's a bomb under Washington,

544
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,960
DC, and it's going to blow in
October 22 or something like

545
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:10,170
that?

546
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,270
Well, why don't I play your clip
then? Because I've had the

547
00:31:12,270 --> 00:31:14,730
YouTube video here, which I'll
put in the show. I don't have I

548
00:31:14,730 --> 00:31:16,740
didn't send you the clip from
him. Oh, really? Well, let me

549
00:31:16,770 --> 00:31:18,330
let me play it for you his
little bit.

550
00:31:18,390 --> 00:31:22,710
And let me just say this to you
tonight. Something that I know.

551
00:31:22,860 --> 00:31:24,270
Not something that I believe
this guy

552
00:31:24,269 --> 00:31:26,339
like a Christian Broadcast or
something?

553
00:31:26,700 --> 00:31:30,360
Yeah, but he's only got two
channels. Giant network. Well,

554
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:30,510
he's

555
00:31:30,509 --> 00:31:31,619
got more than we got.

556
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,330
Yeah, we have more listeners
know, that says, you know, yes,

557
00:31:36,330 --> 00:31:41,760
we do. But oh, sorry. Go ahead.
No, to my assertion,

558
00:31:42,030 --> 00:31:44,550
does he have an am network or
what does he have? Yeah, yeah.

559
00:31:44,550 --> 00:31:48,090
2am stations someplace. Okay,
but it's local. It's not big.

560
00:31:49,289 --> 00:31:50,369
I don't know they're here and
there

561
00:31:50,369 --> 00:31:59,939
is in Washington, DC, an atomic
bomb set in that city. That will

562
00:31:59,939 --> 00:32:06,089
be detonated. I know that. And I
will say it again, I love this

563
00:32:06,089 --> 00:32:16,229
guy in Washington, DC. There is
underground, an atomic bomb that

564
00:32:16,229 --> 00:32:21,689
will be detonated in Washington
DC that will level Washington DC

565
00:32:21,689 --> 00:32:25,679
to the ground where there will
not be left one stone upon

566
00:32:25,709 --> 00:32:26,339
another.

567
00:32:27,030 --> 00:32:29,130
Now, what's interesting about
this because you you listen to

568
00:32:29,130 --> 00:32:31,590
this. And later on, he talks
about you know that God gave him

569
00:32:31,590 --> 00:32:34,230
the date, which of course is
like, Oops, okay.

570
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,830
Right, there goes the
credibility. He

571
00:32:37,830 --> 00:32:40,200
says I can find that thesis
right near the end somewhere.

572
00:32:40,530 --> 00:32:43,920
But then how can you confirm a
great strike against the heart

573
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,170
of the United States? What
chapter do I find that in the

574
00:32:46,170 --> 00:32:46,500
Bible?

575
00:32:46,530 --> 00:32:51,480
There you go. The when you think
about all of these different

576
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:57,210
services moving out to Colorado
there's a lot of movement going

577
00:32:57,210 --> 00:33:01,290
on as particularly moving away
from the Capitol, I think, Oh,

578
00:33:01,290 --> 00:33:04,290
you never know. And I love the
bit where it's somewhere in this

579
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,600
in this clip, he said and I'll
put it in the show notes

580
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,630
somewhere in the clip he says
it's not a good idea to travel

581
00:33:09,630 --> 00:33:11,220
around the October 11.

582
00:33:11,940 --> 00:33:16,080
Yeah, no shit. Well, I bet you
that even though this guy's

583
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:20,190
nuts, and this is probably I
would probably this is all

584
00:33:20,220 --> 00:33:24,210
bogus. A A betcha bunch of
people will avoid

585
00:33:25,619 --> 00:33:26,969
all avoid it. Are you kidding
me?

586
00:33:27,660 --> 00:33:32,760
All the time. So that's no big
deal. But oh, man. Probably a

587
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,310
good time to get a hotel room
cheap. In

588
00:33:35,309 --> 00:33:40,139
DC. Yeah. This is all the thing
that's kind of bothering me. It

589
00:33:40,139 --> 00:33:48,239
kind of got snowed under because
of the the Twitter outage, which

590
00:33:48,239 --> 00:33:52,709
is by itself as all it's kind of
a weird story. Because if you

591
00:33:52,709 --> 00:33:55,589
read on one hand you read on
like Slashdot that it was coming

592
00:33:55,589 --> 00:34:00,209
from the UK. And then you read
in in more mainstream, I guess

593
00:34:00,209 --> 00:34:02,999
Slashdot is almost mainstream.
You read that it was coming from

594
00:34:02,999 --> 00:34:06,749
Russia. And it was you know,
some against some blogger who of

595
00:34:06,749 --> 00:34:09,389
course, had a Live Journal,
which is not exactly the same as

596
00:34:09,539 --> 00:34:13,709
a blog. But it wasn't it was not
a typical denial of service

597
00:34:13,709 --> 00:34:16,499
attack is just just a lot of
noise. And that, of course, was

598
00:34:16,499 --> 00:34:20,039
what we were witnessing last
week, on Sunday when we were

599
00:34:20,039 --> 00:34:24,209
having trouble twittering. But
this, this computer programmer

600
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:29,849
who walked into a gym and shot
it up and killed three women and

601
00:34:29,879 --> 00:34:33,869
then himself. GEORGE So Dini, if
you've been following the

602
00:34:33,869 --> 00:34:34,619
stories, you're here,

603
00:34:35,130 --> 00:34:38,520
read the one item and I didn't
go any further than that. Okay,

604
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:39,030
so

605
00:34:39,030 --> 00:34:43,980
here's what's kind of weird
about it. GEORGE So Dini worked

606
00:34:43,980 --> 00:34:49,740
for K and L Gates. Kanal gates
is a is a is a very famous very

607
00:34:49,740 --> 00:34:56,910
powerful law firm. Who have you
know, they've got former lawyer

608
00:34:56,910 --> 00:34:59,040
I guess not. You're never a
former lawyer, but they've got

609
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:04,020
lawyers. Who are, ah, they're
all over Washington. They're

610
00:35:04,020 --> 00:35:06,750
they're running the water.
They're running all kinds of

611
00:35:06,750 --> 00:35:10,800
stuff. And this, of course, is
part Bill Gates, his dad's firm.

612
00:35:11,850 --> 00:35:17,520
So if you know, I don't even
think there's every President

613
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:21,150
has had, you know, conferences
with them. This is a big ass law

614
00:35:21,150 --> 00:35:22,980
firm do anything about caneel
gates?

615
00:35:24,449 --> 00:35:27,869
Well, I think the name was just
been changed recently to that.

616
00:35:27,899 --> 00:35:31,229
Yeah, yeah. Because I gave a
deposition to that group some

617
00:35:31,829 --> 00:35:35,609
few years ago, and they Lindos
case. And they had to go in

618
00:35:35,609 --> 00:35:39,629
there and get grilled by their
lawyers in their offices in

619
00:35:39,629 --> 00:35:44,699
Seattle. And I came away with a
couple of very interesting beer

620
00:35:44,699 --> 00:35:46,499
coasters with the logo on there.

621
00:35:47,219 --> 00:35:50,759
Good scan them and put them up.
Because I think these guys they

622
00:35:50,759 --> 00:35:52,559
may they may actually be evil.

623
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:58,020
They seem like normal lawyers to
me, but which means yes,

624
00:35:58,440 --> 00:35:59,070
exactly.

625
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:04,350
So there's a lot of tie ins in
this. So Dini was a I guess, a

626
00:36:04,350 --> 00:36:09,360
senior programmer, computer
programmer, for the company, he

627
00:36:09,630 --> 00:36:14,160
apparently had recently had a
promotion. And so this guy goes

628
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:20,130
into into a gym in Pittsburgh,
and kills these three innocent

629
00:36:20,130 --> 00:36:24,720
women then himself. And then,
you know, all the so called

630
00:36:24,720 --> 00:36:28,500
evidence, like his blog, which,
of course, the mainstream media

631
00:36:28,500 --> 00:36:31,710
is calling it an online journal.
And if you look at George

632
00:36:31,710 --> 00:36:36,270
sodini.com, if this guy was a
computer programmer, and this is

633
00:36:36,270 --> 00:36:39,330
what he called a blog, then you
know, he should have just shot

634
00:36:39,330 --> 00:36:44,820
himself first. This looks like
such a setup of crap. And then

635
00:36:44,820 --> 00:36:48,150
there's these YouTube videos
that are floating around, and

636
00:36:48,150 --> 00:36:51,990
they're really creepy, but it's
not your typical creepy. No, I'm

637
00:36:51,990 --> 00:36:56,430
gonna go kill somebody, in fact,
quite the opposite. He was a

638
00:36:56,430 --> 00:36:59,550
member of and actually, I
distilled some of this, I was

639
00:36:59,670 --> 00:37:01,410
trying to figure out, you know,
if you listen, I'm going to play

640
00:37:01,410 --> 00:37:04,560
one of these videos. Because
this is, it's rather

641
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:08,880
interesting. Hold on, I want you
to listen to what he says. So

642
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,400
this is the video that has been
posted everywhere. And this is

643
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,400
supposed to prove that he's a
creepy guy. So it's him in front

644
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:18,540
of a mirror in his basement, and
not a mirror, I guess. He's got

645
00:37:18,540 --> 00:37:21,180
the camera, I'm not quite sure
what the setup is. But just

646
00:37:21,180 --> 00:37:22,350
somebody says for a second.

647
00:37:24,150 --> 00:37:27,840
It is easy for me to hide from
my emotions for one more day,

648
00:37:28,050 --> 00:37:32,850
take a long drive in the car,
listen to some music, daydream,

649
00:37:33,540 --> 00:37:37,170
or just do some mundane task
around the house that really

650
00:37:37,170 --> 00:37:40,590
doesn't need to be done. That's,
that's not too important. And

651
00:37:40,590 --> 00:37:43,830
there you go one more day, and
one more day turns into one more

652
00:37:43,830 --> 00:37:50,730
year. Now, rds says that I have
approximately maybe 15 more

653
00:37:50,730 --> 00:37:55,800
years to be successful at this.
And when I heard that, I wanted

654
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:59,790
to continue immediately to start
moving on this I didn't realise

655
00:37:59,850 --> 00:38:03,870
so that sounds creepy, right?
What's he talking about? Well,

656
00:38:03,900 --> 00:38:07,590
so the clue here is rds that
like right What is he talking

657
00:38:07,590 --> 00:38:12,000
about rds? So not hard if you do
a little bit of googling because

658
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,480
of course there's another video
where he shows us by the way his

659
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,930
house is meticulous it's it you
know, I think it was making like

660
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:22,050
like 200 grand a year this is
not an you know, he had just

661
00:38:22,050 --> 00:38:26,340
finished his basement he's got a
computer in the bedroom a

662
00:38:26,340 --> 00:38:29,040
computer in the living room cat
five network through the

663
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:32,190
basement he's explaining all
this stuff. So you know not like

664
00:38:32,490 --> 00:38:33,930
not your typical guy

665
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,770
living in a in a in Idaho in a
in a shack? No,

666
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:41,970
absolutely not. Apparently RDS
I'm trying to bring up the link

667
00:38:41,970 --> 00:38:48,810
here which is of course not
doing too well for me. Shoot

668
00:38:50,460 --> 00:38:52,170
radio data system there's

669
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:56,370
not another it's the name of an
author. This guy was a member of

670
00:38:56,370 --> 00:39:01,710
steel I think balls of steel or
steel balls.com which is a how

671
00:39:01,710 --> 00:39:05,730
to get how to date women type
site and this these were videos

672
00:39:05,730 --> 00:39:11,430
he made for his group you know
so there's a fucking link isn't

673
00:39:11,430 --> 00:39:15,480
coming up now. And RDS as the
author of one of these books,

674
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:19,020
which you actually see on his
table and he's talking the guy

675
00:39:19,020 --> 00:39:26,010
was trying to you know, he would
wish this link would come up God

676
00:39:26,010 --> 00:39:26,490
dammit,

677
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:31,110
maybe should get a bill. There's
a there's a clip. George Sodini

678
00:39:31,110 --> 00:39:35,520
rds, the book is how to date
women for men over 35 A book is

679
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:41,640
written by our Don steel, aka
steel balls steel, aka rds.

680
00:39:42,090 --> 00:39:45,120
Right? So RDS it just sounds
like it sounds like this guy's

681
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:50,670
took taking it as a cult with
with with rules that he had to

682
00:39:50,700 --> 00:39:54,270
abide by. And then I guess he
Well that's interesting because

683
00:39:54,270 --> 00:39:59,940
that would be how to date women
for men over 35 has got to be a

684
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:08,340
It sounds like jeez, I don't
know what to look for me over 35

685
00:40:08,340 --> 00:40:10,500
You just say, Hey, you want to
go out to dinner? And what does

686
00:40:10,500 --> 00:40:11,130
it take?

687
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,160
So then you look at his blog, I
just just take a look at the so

688
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:18,060
called Blog, John. And this is a
Senior Computer Programmer. And

689
00:40:18,060 --> 00:40:20,070
I'm gonna give you so you can
just click on the link in your

690
00:40:20,070 --> 00:40:27,060
Skype, George so dini.com And
it's like, this is not a blog.

691
00:40:29,340 --> 00:40:35,280
Wow. Now, no one no, click no
click on 1.0 Check it out, click

692
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:35,910
on the life

693
00:40:35,910 --> 00:40:38,370
or death link on that page

694
00:40:38,610 --> 00:40:42,660
will have a link to this on the
show notes. Of course. Now you

695
00:40:42,660 --> 00:40:44,850
see anybody who's listening to
this string can just go to

696
00:40:44,850 --> 00:40:46,710
George so dini.com and that

697
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,820
and play along so click on the
the life, life or death, okay,

698
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:55,650
now, now go into the date of
death. This is so I mean,

699
00:40:55,650 --> 00:40:58,710
there's no I don't know anyone
who would be this naughty, and

700
00:40:58,710 --> 00:41:05,100
type in 20090804, which was the
day he killed himself? Or maybe

701
00:41:05,100 --> 00:41:08,940
he was assisted. And then click
submit and then you get this

702
00:41:08,940 --> 00:41:13,290
page, which has a page not
found, then you didn't do it?

703
00:41:13,290 --> 00:41:15,660
Right. Did you do it in the
data? I

704
00:41:15,660 --> 00:41:20,730
didn't write 020090804

705
00:41:20,730 --> 00:41:21,720
which is his date of this

706
00:41:21,720 --> 00:41:24,150
guy's a coder and he then he
doesn't accept anything. He

707
00:41:24,150 --> 00:41:26,580
goes, it goes dead. It doesn't
even have an error message. You

708
00:41:26,580 --> 00:41:29,430
go no, it's like the Microsoft
Windows Error

709
00:41:29,429 --> 00:41:34,529
page. George Sodini age 48 Date
of birth 1960 date of death aid

710
00:41:34,529 --> 00:41:41,069
for 2009 He gave him his own
death date 510 155 pounds never

711
00:41:41,069 --> 00:41:42,659
married. He's 48

712
00:41:42,720 --> 00:41:50,070
So this is this is a basic HTML
1.0 page. And this just smells

713
00:41:50,070 --> 00:41:54,450
like a set this is weird man.
This is not anything any normal

714
00:41:54,870 --> 00:41:58,050
computer even an abnormal
computer programmer wouldn't

715
00:41:58,050 --> 00:41:58,320
make

716
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,630
this right now what we're
looking at on this page and

717
00:42:00,630 --> 00:42:02,760
people should definitely do this

718
00:42:03,300 --> 00:42:06,600
is this and this by the way is
what the mainstream media calls

719
00:42:06,660 --> 00:42:11,430
a blog and a an online journal
which is hidden behind his date

720
00:42:11,430 --> 00:42:12,090
of death

721
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:18,030
and so they apparently has an
outline of all his concerns and

722
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:22,620
write to the with a bunch of
bullshit entries that are just

723
00:42:22,650 --> 00:42:30,480
bogus and and now he goes idiots
he he apparently Andy pool

724
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:36,600
kowski has been the the target
of his disaffection. I've been

725
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,660
in bar rooms and church groups.
The worst people by far are the

726
00:42:39,660 --> 00:42:43,050
religious types, especially a
right wing stiff faced FundI

727
00:42:43,050 --> 00:42:47,970
like Andy, condescending,
demanding passive aggressive

728
00:42:47,970 --> 00:42:52,200
person frigid, rigid, linear and
totally inflexible. Being a very

729
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:55,950
serious this guy's got issues.
The not Andy

730
00:42:55,980 --> 00:42:59,790
Well, well, whoever wrote this
makes it looks like this guy's

731
00:42:59,790 --> 00:43:00,690
got issues now.

732
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:04,169
I kind of think it the whole
thing was a setup. Yes, I

733
00:43:04,170 --> 00:43:07,020
do. And I'll tell you why I
believe that because caneel

734
00:43:07,020 --> 00:43:11,430
Gates is huge. You don't you
don't just get in to be a senior

735
00:43:11,430 --> 00:43:14,670
programmer at caneel gates and
what I understand here, okay,

736
00:43:14,670 --> 00:43:17,430
here's the limit. I'm going to
try to get you here. Hold on.

737
00:43:18,300 --> 00:43:22,260
You're going to give us a kind
of a Pelican Brief one of these

738
00:43:22,260 --> 00:43:24,780
kinds of interesting things
where something he knew he knew

739
00:43:24,780 --> 00:43:28,680
something, yes, found out
something. And so he was either

740
00:43:29,100 --> 00:43:32,220
hypnotised programmed or
something to get rid of him. He

741
00:43:32,220 --> 00:43:36,300
had to get he had to die. Yeah.
This all was developed around

742
00:43:36,300 --> 00:43:37,740
that premise. Why, in fact,

743
00:43:37,740 --> 00:43:45,210
John? Frank, I believe that he I
believe that he had knowledge of

744
00:43:45,210 --> 00:43:48,930
the Goldman Sachs trading
programme. That's why I think he

745
00:43:48,930 --> 00:43:50,370
had knowledge. And I think it
was

746
00:43:50,370 --> 00:43:53,250
actually a knowledge this guy
can't even do it. Oh, no, no,

747
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:58,740
according to looking at this,
you would you hire a programmer

748
00:43:58,740 --> 00:44:01,140
who wrote that who set up a site
like this? Come on?

749
00:44:01,170 --> 00:44:04,380
No, the guy doesn't know what
he's doing. He was a senior.

750
00:44:05,100 --> 00:44:07,530
We'd have to assume he didn't do
this. Because he probably would

751
00:44:07,530 --> 00:44:10,260
do something that was reasonably
cool. He would have done

752
00:44:10,260 --> 00:44:12,150
something cool, right? Well,
yeah, that would have been at

753
00:44:12,150 --> 00:44:14,970
least it would have been
programmer like, lots Exactly.

754
00:44:15,420 --> 00:44:15,660
And by

755
00:44:15,660 --> 00:44:17,640
the way, if you if you've used
source, there's a couple of

756
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:19,860
things that are commented out,
which is also kind of

757
00:44:19,860 --> 00:44:24,840
interesting to look at. So yeah,
he was educated at Carnegie

758
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,510
Mellon. I mean, this was a
really, really smart guy, but

759
00:44:27,510 --> 00:44:29,970
it's not like a guide. You just,
it doesn't make sense that he

760
00:44:29,970 --> 00:44:31,500
went that he went postal,

761
00:44:31,679 --> 00:44:33,929
all of us right and he's got the
thing at the end. He's got

762
00:44:33,929 --> 00:44:36,299
miscellaneous He's got four
statements, including number

763
00:44:36,299 --> 00:44:39,809
four death lives. And then at
the very bottom, he's got copy

764
00:44:39,809 --> 00:44:42,839
this to use NET newsgroups,
where my voice will speak

765
00:44:42,839 --> 00:44:47,519
forever, with two asterisks.
When do I use the whole thing is

766
00:44:47,519 --> 00:44:52,139
asterisk, which is something
nerds do sometimes. Don't modify

767
00:44:52,139 --> 00:44:55,349
it. If you correct my spelling
errors. I use the word pad.

768
00:44:55,799 --> 00:44:59,549
Unless the names are legal or
required legally be blotted out

769
00:44:59,549 --> 00:45:01,169
then fine in WordPad,

770
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:06,930
so I would like to understand
more because through this

771
00:45:07,170 --> 00:45:12,000
occurrence, I started to learn
more about K and L Gates. And

772
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:16,890
this is a very, very powerful,
powerful company. They had a

773
00:45:16,890 --> 00:45:20,610
couple of layoffs, two rounds of
layoffs in the past six or nine

774
00:45:20,610 --> 00:45:23,550
months. This guy stayed on. So
you know, he wasn't some

775
00:45:23,550 --> 00:45:28,140
schmuck, he was clearly doing
something. These guys are not to

776
00:45:28,140 --> 00:45:33,000
be underestimated. So and I see
nowhere in the news, of course,

777
00:45:33,330 --> 00:45:36,510
you know, there was so much
about Twitter. When this

778
00:45:36,510 --> 00:45:39,870
happened almost at the same time
that it kind of went it snowed.

779
00:45:41,190 --> 00:45:47,190
Nothing to see here. Show over
here, nothing to see.

780
00:45:47,489 --> 00:45:51,209
Look at that pretty fast. I got,
I got there on the draw. That's

781
00:45:51,209 --> 00:45:54,899
exactly what this story is. So
And why can someone just go you

782
00:45:54,899 --> 00:45:57,839
know how when when you have one
of these so called psychos, who

783
00:45:57,839 --> 00:46:01,769
goes in and shoots up innocent
women. They usually go interview

784
00:46:01,769 --> 00:46:06,299
people like people at his job.
No, I've not seen any interview

785
00:46:06,299 --> 00:46:09,389
with anyone from the law firm,
the law firm, you know, no

786
00:46:09,389 --> 00:46:12,329
statements anywhere. I can't
find anything. I'm highly

787
00:46:12,329 --> 00:46:15,839
interested in what he did. What
kind of job? What were his

788
00:46:15,839 --> 00:46:19,079
responsibilities? There's a lot
more to find out about this.

789
00:46:19,109 --> 00:46:22,829
There really is and it's just,
it's just been been pushed away.

790
00:46:23,010 --> 00:46:25,080
Yeah. Well, everyone assumes
that all the information you

791
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,230
need is in this idiotic blog
where he bitches and moans about

792
00:46:28,230 --> 00:46:29,910
the fact that he's not getting
laid.

793
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:33,029
And this essentially and this is
where Google becomes completely

794
00:46:33,029 --> 00:46:33,509
binary. There

795
00:46:33,510 --> 00:46:39,660
are things out there called
hookers. Definitely guy guy, the

796
00:46:39,660 --> 00:46:45,210
RDS guy explained that
possibility. I mean, seriously,

797
00:46:45,240 --> 00:46:49,080
maybe he went to them when they
said the service for you. Your

798
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,450
work for kn o games? No service
for you.

799
00:46:55,679 --> 00:46:58,319
Called the hookers did. This is
another piece of fine advice

800
00:46:58,319 --> 00:47:02,069
from John C. Dvorak. Ladies and
gentlemen. If you can't get

801
00:47:02,069 --> 00:47:05,909
laid, don't go to steel
balls.com There's always

802
00:47:05,909 --> 00:47:06,899
something called hookers.

803
00:47:12,989 --> 00:47:13,919
Tell me I'm wrong.

804
00:47:14,610 --> 00:47:18,660
So I'm going to do I've been
doing a deeper dive into K and

805
00:47:18,660 --> 00:47:21,660
L. Gates. It was a they merged I
guess recently, they bought

806
00:47:21,660 --> 00:47:25,470
another law firm. But it's
interesting because they are

807
00:47:25,500 --> 00:47:29,820
Bill Gates, his De Facto Law
Firm, because I guess I guess he

808
00:47:29,820 --> 00:47:32,820
owned a law firm and his dad
owned a law firm. It's like

809
00:47:32,820 --> 00:47:33,090
there's a

810
00:47:33,090 --> 00:47:36,900
lot of Bill ever owned a law
firm. He's not a lawyer.

811
00:47:36,989 --> 00:47:40,559
Well, his dad, his dad is a
partner in this. Yeah, no,

812
00:47:40,589 --> 00:47:45,089
that's the gates. Right. But all
I think a lot of the Bill Gates

813
00:47:45,089 --> 00:47:47,729
business particularly the Bill
and Melinda Melinda Gates

814
00:47:47,729 --> 00:47:51,239
Foundation business runs through
this law firm. Oh, I would hope

815
00:47:51,389 --> 00:47:55,079
and I bet you there's some
Goldman Sachs connections. Oh,

816
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,540
that's a long shot because you
have no evidence of this. Well,

817
00:47:57,540 --> 00:47:58,620
I don't yet.

818
00:48:00,300 --> 00:48:04,140
All right, well, if you get it
report back. But yeah, you're

819
00:48:04,140 --> 00:48:07,500
right. This whole story is
fishy. And it's not as

820
00:48:07,500 --> 00:48:10,410
underreported and nobody seems
to care. And it's actually and

821
00:48:10,410 --> 00:48:12,690
it's a mass murderer. I mean,
you think it'd be getting more

822
00:48:12,690 --> 00:48:16,200
coverage? Oh, well, the coverage
is gonna get us for gun control.

823
00:48:17,340 --> 00:48:20,250
They haven't even done that yet.
No, that's coming.

824
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,480
To find out he borrowed the gun
or something. So he's gonna

825
00:48:24,510 --> 00:48:26,910
they're gonna try to make it
illegal. The lone guns out to

826
00:48:26,910 --> 00:48:27,270
people.

827
00:48:27,300 --> 00:48:32,190
So one of the keyano Gates I
guess with a partner or junior

828
00:48:32,190 --> 00:48:37,650
partner, will Estelle Stelly
Estelle is on the Oversight

829
00:48:37,650 --> 00:48:41,880
Board of the United States sea
laws, which of course, fits

830
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:47,250
nicely into the the United
Nations that taking over all see

831
00:48:48,240 --> 00:48:53,250
all things see above and below.
I don't know man. They're part

832
00:48:53,250 --> 00:48:54,510
of the programme somehow.

833
00:48:54,990 --> 00:48:58,170
Well, we'll put it on our list
of things that we track

834
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:02,610
Yes, K mail gates, definitely
something to track. It lets you

835
00:49:02,610 --> 00:49:03,660
show me your clips.

836
00:49:04,020 --> 00:49:07,200
When he went away. Let me take a
look. What is the shortwave

837
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:13,980
thing? Oh, I picked this up on
the shortwave. Play it over

838
00:49:13,980 --> 00:49:20,160
services small step Tip of the
Week. Tip number 50 to avoid

839
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:25,980
labour saving devices. This is a
tip from the Human Services

840
00:49:31,980 --> 00:49:36,060
learned to use some of the some
of the crazy filters in

841
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,060
Mickey actually said hey, you
know that don't eat portions

842
00:49:42,060 --> 00:49:44,460
bigger than the size of your
fist is actually not a bad one.

843
00:49:44,550 --> 00:49:46,020
I like that one.

844
00:49:46,410 --> 00:49:48,960
Honey, go get the paper. Please.

845
00:49:49,980 --> 00:49:54,690
Not a bad one. Oh man. Yeah,
that's one of the rules,

846
00:49:54,690 --> 00:49:59,400
whatever the number was 51 or
whatever it's 5252 don't use

847
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,320
labour say Making devices what?

848
00:50:01,530 --> 00:50:09,300
From small steps.gov? Another
$90 million website? Have you

849
00:50:09,300 --> 00:50:11,010
seen that? grants.gov?

850
00:50:11,820 --> 00:50:15,420
Does that another $90 million?
Website? No, but that's correct

851
00:50:15,420 --> 00:50:16,230
as 18?

852
00:50:16,860 --> 00:50:21,570
Sorry, yes. grants.gov is a
fantastic site. And you know, if

853
00:50:21,570 --> 00:50:27,510
you want to help us, really help
us go to this site, which does

854
00:50:27,510 --> 00:50:31,110
get a great help us get a grant
exactly. I mean, here's the the

855
00:50:31,110 --> 00:50:37,710
subtitle of grants.gov, find,
apply, succeed. And I'm looking

856
00:50:37,710 --> 00:50:40,470
through it, I'm like, I can't
find anything. But this did

857
00:50:40,470 --> 00:50:44,880
bring me to speaking of the $18
million website to recovery.gov,

858
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:48,300
you just need to go there for a
second. John, if you could, of

859
00:50:48,300 --> 00:50:54,540
course, one of the main features
of the 2.0 redesign. Is there a

860
00:50:54,540 --> 00:50:58,170
mapping feature, which, you
know, they're making a really

861
00:50:58,170 --> 00:51:01,200
big deal about, it's somewhere
in the middle of the page there.

862
00:51:01,199 --> 00:51:04,139
It's right in the middle of the
page. Yeah, click here, maps

863
00:51:04,169 --> 00:51:05,279
track spending

864
00:51:05,310 --> 00:51:09,240
right now go to go to the maps.
So you get a page with four

865
00:51:09,240 --> 00:51:13,440
maps. And one of them says
investments by state investments

866
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:17,280
by recipient state recovery
site, and then estimated job

867
00:51:17,310 --> 00:51:20,160
effect, I'd like you to click on
that for a moment. Wait, wait, I

868
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,200
can't find it, I mean, that
Well, here it is down below

869
00:51:22,949 --> 00:51:28,799
estimated job effect. So impact
recovery.gov provides. So this

870
00:51:28,799 --> 00:51:31,799
is your $80 million dollars or
work provides estimates of jobs

871
00:51:31,799 --> 00:51:34,799
to be created and saved in each
state under the stimulus

872
00:51:34,799 --> 00:51:38,429
programme. So then, you know, if
you mouse over it, but if you

873
00:51:38,429 --> 00:51:43,349
mouse over every single state
says jobs created slash saved in

874
00:51:43,349 --> 00:51:46,679
the next two years. So this is
this is not

875
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:50,730
even saying that as much BS as
you can possibly imagine, right

876
00:51:50,730 --> 00:51:54,150
now scroll down to the bottom
and click on the link for Read

877
00:51:54,150 --> 00:51:58,320
description of estimation
methods. This will kill you.

878
00:51:58,830 --> 00:52:02,490
Of course, it's gonna kill my
machine because it's a PDF. I

879
00:52:02,490 --> 00:52:06,240
guess you need $18 million to
drop a PDF file on there.

880
00:52:06,270 --> 00:52:11,700
So how do they estimate these
jobs? Slit saved slash created?

881
00:52:11,700 --> 00:52:14,520
Which, I mean, it's not even a
frickin number. It doesn't make

882
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,070
any sense. You know, you can you
give me the created number and

883
00:52:17,070 --> 00:52:18,000
the Save number.

884
00:52:18,179 --> 00:52:22,169
Now, state jobs estimates are
inherently more speculative than

885
00:52:22,169 --> 00:52:25,739
the overall estimates. I need to
have my shortwave radio stuff on

886
00:52:25,739 --> 00:52:29,279
here, when not the time, they
were constructed, detailed

887
00:52:29,279 --> 00:52:32,609
estimates of state by state
spending are not available. The

888
00:52:32,609 --> 00:52:37,109
CEA therefore allocated jobs by
state in three plausible ways.

889
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:42,240
Well, then you miss the most
important part of the top. The

890
00:52:42,240 --> 00:52:45,150
National effect of the American
Recovery and Reinvestment Act of

891
00:52:45,150 --> 00:52:49,530
2009 on employment was estimated
using the methods described in

892
00:52:49,530 --> 00:52:53,790
Romer and Bernstein. And then
you go down and see the job

893
00:52:53,790 --> 00:52:56,700
impact of the American Recovery
and Reinvestment Plan Romer

894
00:52:56,700 --> 00:53:00,960
Christina and Jared Bernstein
now if you Google that,

895
00:53:01,469 --> 00:53:05,069
there's actually a there's a
link there. Oh, really? I'm

896
00:53:05,069 --> 00:53:07,649
gonna see that there's a link.
Yeah, I just clicked on it. And

897
00:53:07,649 --> 00:53:09,899
I'm off to the races. It's
another

898
00:53:09,900 --> 00:53:17,760
PDF. But check it out. This is
done in January. This wasn't

899
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:23,610
this was an estimate. This is
this is the stuff that when the

900
00:53:23,610 --> 00:53:27,240
President was still present,
this is like campaign one with

901
00:53:27,240 --> 00:53:31,050
Jared Bernstein. He is from the
Office of the Vice President

902
00:53:31,050 --> 00:53:34,380
elect the non existent entity by
there there is no such thing as

903
00:53:34,380 --> 00:53:37,290
the Office of the Vice President
Elect. So

904
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:41,400
this is this is just an estimate
they made before any any real

905
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,620
calculations were done and now
they're putting it on this

906
00:53:43,620 --> 00:53:46,710
website as if this is the fact
is that this is what's been

907
00:53:46,710 --> 00:53:51,120
created slash save through this
fabulous stimulus. It's just old

908
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:52,320
bullshit data.

909
00:53:53,100 --> 00:53:55,410
It's totally made up to thank
you.

910
00:53:55,410 --> 00:53:57,840
That's kind of my point. It's
made up yeah, you're

911
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:01,290
worried you're looking for made
up. It's made

912
00:54:01,350 --> 00:54:06,690
up and then making a big deal
about it. Unbeliev

913
00:54:06,690 --> 00:54:10,110
and then if you and if you I
mean, I could go on. I could go

914
00:54:10,110 --> 00:54:10,620
on first

915
00:54:10,620 --> 00:54:15,300
and knowing you're just making
me interview irking me. I need

916
00:54:15,300 --> 00:54:17,520
to be any more than I am good.

917
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:22,049
So anyway, go to grants.gov and
the finest Grant Williams

918
00:54:22,079 --> 00:54:24,929
because everyone seems to be
getting one in San Francisco.

919
00:54:24,929 --> 00:54:28,529
The Del Monte Corporation has
two grants totaling about $9

920
00:54:28,529 --> 00:54:33,269
million. I'm not quite sure what
their grant is for pickles. And

921
00:54:33,569 --> 00:54:34,409
pineapple.

922
00:54:35,910 --> 00:54:42,120
Could be that I use the duck. I
like to Delmonte pickled kosher.

923
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:43,080
Dill is a good product

924
00:54:43,110 --> 00:54:47,010
not familiar. Hey in one, I've
got one I've got you on the line

925
00:54:47,010 --> 00:54:52,980
here, Johnny Boy. So anybody,
here's something I don't get. So

926
00:54:53,010 --> 00:54:58,470
the unemployment figures come
out. And instead of 400,000 jobs

927
00:54:58,500 --> 00:55:07,740
we only lost to 200,050 jobs.
How can the overall unemployment

928
00:55:07,740 --> 00:55:14,610
number go from 9.5%? Down to
9.4%? If we still lost jobs?

929
00:55:14,910 --> 00:55:18,870
Yeah, because a bunch of people
fell off the rolls. They've been

930
00:55:18,870 --> 00:55:20,100
unemployed too long

931
00:55:20,100 --> 00:55:22,800
so Oh, if you're unemployed too
long that you're not you're no

932
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:23,910
longer unemployed

933
00:55:24,900 --> 00:55:29,100
by that number. Yeah. Yeah,
you're now bum.

934
00:55:31,110 --> 00:55:32,700
So we should have a bum index.

935
00:55:35,429 --> 00:55:39,509
Now bombs, basically the Wall
Street Journal. Of course,

936
00:55:39,509 --> 00:55:42,419
that's a Murdoch publication now
it's like, the President comes

937
00:55:42,419 --> 00:55:44,819
out and says, This is great. You
know, we're turning the corner.

938
00:55:44,909 --> 00:55:47,639
You everyone has a graph going
down. And like that makes no

939
00:55:47,639 --> 00:55:51,329
sense. You lost. You still lost
a quarter million jobs. You get

940
00:55:51,329 --> 00:55:54,839
this less joblessness? I don't
understand. Doesn't anyone see

941
00:55:54,839 --> 00:55:55,589
this?

942
00:55:56,790 --> 00:56:01,560
No, no, nobody wants to see it.
But the big numbers are in the

943
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:03,660
past because that's when they
have the big Whopper show month

944
00:56:03,660 --> 00:56:07,410
after month were huge. The first
one you know and 600,000 and up.

945
00:56:07,740 --> 00:56:11,010
So as those guys drop off the
rolls because they can't get

946
00:56:12,180 --> 00:56:14,700
Rosa you're talking about when
the unemployment went away, it's

947
00:56:14,700 --> 00:56:17,910
registered your employment for
so long. And once you stopped

948
00:56:17,910 --> 00:56:20,040
collecting unemployment, you're
no longer unemployed you're a

949
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:27,840
bum. So, so country or what? So
as the numbers as those huge

950
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:31,020
numbers that came in early, fall
off the off the map, we can

951
00:56:31,020 --> 00:56:35,070
still be losing jobs, but the
unemployment rate will go down.

952
00:56:35,460 --> 00:56:39,060
It's kind of like the EBIT, da
of unemployment,

953
00:56:39,240 --> 00:56:45,120
a phoney number, keep it all the
time with companies that are in

954
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:48,900
floundering. They're using that
data all the time as their

955
00:56:48,900 --> 00:56:50,760
justification for how well we're
doing,

956
00:56:50,790 --> 00:56:55,440
right? We've got EBIT, da, we
were EBIT da profitable, which

957
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:59,340
is estimated before income tax
earnings bullshit before Yeah,

958
00:56:59,340 --> 00:57:01,710
before everything before
everything else. In other words,

959
00:57:01,740 --> 00:57:08,670
you're losing your shirt. Man,
so a horrible thing happened

960
00:57:08,670 --> 00:57:11,040
over the Hudson, the other day
when

961
00:57:11,850 --> 00:57:15,060
my wife was open, you talk about
it, because she was said, Why

962
00:57:15,060 --> 00:57:17,550
are they having these people?
You know, in the, in the

963
00:57:17,580 --> 00:57:20,610
helicopters that are doing
sightseeing on the same airspace

964
00:57:20,610 --> 00:57:22,080
as as little planes?

965
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:27,330
Well, they share the same
airspace helicopters or exact

966
00:57:27,330 --> 00:57:30,960
same altitude. Yeah, yeah,
that's, that's correct. I mean,

967
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:34,350
you know, this, this is
reasonably safe. Something.

968
00:57:34,590 --> 00:57:38,460
There's two things about this.
First of all, shit,

969
00:57:38,490 --> 00:57:42,210
unfortunately just happens.
You've got bad pilots, like you

970
00:57:42,210 --> 00:57:44,970
got bad drivers. And in this
case, luckily, it happened over

971
00:57:44,970 --> 00:57:49,170
the Hudson so it was contained
to the the nine people for on

972
00:57:49,170 --> 00:57:52,890
board of the Piper and five on
board of the helicopter. What I

973
00:57:52,890 --> 00:57:55,110
think happened, you know, the,
if you're flying through that

974
00:57:55,110 --> 00:57:59,010
corridor, I think the flight
level is about 1100 feet.

975
00:57:59,250 --> 00:58:02,880
Probably the helicopter just
popped up, you know, he was just

976
00:58:02,910 --> 00:58:06,930
ascending the plane, basically
just flew right into him. But

977
00:58:06,930 --> 00:58:10,020
the thing that was interesting,
the New York Times reported on

978
00:58:10,020 --> 00:58:14,400
this, and the story changed. I
have a cached version, which

979
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:19,260
I'll put in the show notes.
Because one sentence is gone

980
00:58:19,260 --> 00:58:23,160
from the version of The New York
Times has up now. And I'll read

981
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:26,730
the paragraph in the in the
cached version, in dramatic

982
00:58:26,730 --> 00:58:29,850
scenes glimpse by hundreds of
joggers, bikers, strollers, and

983
00:58:29,850 --> 00:58:34,980
apartment dwellers on both sides
of the mile wide river, the two

984
00:58:34,980 --> 00:58:38,760
aircraft appeared to break apart
by the way, if you're jogging

985
00:58:38,790 --> 00:58:42,180
you really you're not hearing it
until the crash has happened.

986
00:58:42,180 --> 00:58:44,250
Which is probably the sound
doesn't hit you until two

987
00:58:44,250 --> 00:58:47,160
seconds later. So it's just like
a car crash. Everyone saw it but

988
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:50,940
they didn't really a wing from
the plane and rotary blades from

989
00:58:50,940 --> 00:58:54,210
the chopper and fell spinning
into the Hudson opposite West

990
00:58:54,210 --> 00:58:57,630
14th Street in Manhattan. Some
describe the collision as

991
00:58:57,630 --> 00:59:01,440
sounding like a quick Roll of
Thunder followed by an eerie

992
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:04,650
silence now here's the line that
is no longer in the online

993
00:59:04,650 --> 00:59:08,700
version of The Times immediately
after the crash. The power went

994
00:59:08,700 --> 00:59:15,120
out in five counties but was
quickly restored. No know what

995
00:59:17,130 --> 00:59:17,700
so

996
00:59:17,699 --> 00:59:19,169
I know where this is headed.
Yeah,

997
00:59:19,199 --> 00:59:24,269
EMP. I don't know what that's
about. I don't know why it was

998
00:59:24,269 --> 00:59:27,749
in the original story and has
been taken out which counties I

999
00:59:27,749 --> 00:59:31,499
can't even find any other
references to this in Google

1000
00:59:31,499 --> 00:59:31,979
News.

1001
00:59:32,010 --> 00:59:36,090
This EMP has me kind of
intrigued and so I want you to

1002
00:59:36,090 --> 00:59:36,870
play

1003
00:59:39,330 --> 00:59:43,620
EMP for new listeners is
electromagnetic pulse. It's a

1004
00:59:43,650 --> 00:59:48,030
weapon which is probably much
more effective than a nuclear

1005
00:59:48,030 --> 00:59:52,050
bomb. And then if in fact you
can trigger an EMP event by

1006
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:54,480
exploding a nuclear bomb at high
altitude.

1007
00:59:55,110 --> 00:59:59,010
So I was listening to a
discussion by one of the

1008
00:59:59,010 --> 01:00:02,070
admirals that He runs the
ballistic missile defence

1009
01:00:02,070 --> 01:00:05,460
programme for the Navy and the
Aegis programme in particular.

1010
01:00:05,730 --> 01:00:10,350
So I'm sitting by the way for
people out there who know Aegis

1011
01:00:10,350 --> 01:00:15,150
is an anti ballistic missile
system. And I want you to play a

1012
01:00:15,540 --> 01:00:20,130
clip to name a few followed by
way, say it but first place to

1013
01:00:20,130 --> 01:00:23,970
name a few. I want to gently
Admiral go nationally,

1014
01:00:24,210 --> 01:00:26,880
talks about Japan as the gold
standard. We have lots of

1015
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:31,050
relationships with countries on
exchanging data and analysis of

1016
01:00:31,050 --> 01:00:34,800
what it takes to do ballistic
missile defence. And we're very

1017
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:37,860
proud of our relationship we've
had. And I'll talk about who's

1018
01:00:37,860 --> 01:00:41,490
participating. Also, I would
highlight here who's who has

1019
01:00:41,490 --> 01:00:46,860
purchased the Aegis system.
Australia, South Korea, Japan,

1020
01:00:47,550 --> 01:00:49,500
Norway, the name a few.

1021
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:54,420
So I'm thinking Norway. So
anyway, this system works by the

1022
01:00:54,420 --> 01:00:57,900
way, and this is the system that
they rejiggered to shoot that

1023
01:00:57,900 --> 01:01:01,650
satellite out of the air. I
remember that. You mean the one

1024
01:01:01,650 --> 01:01:04,800
that collided? Well, they shot
one out of the

1025
01:01:05,219 --> 01:01:07,859
Yeah, oh, yeah. No, of course,
they blew it out of the sky they

1026
01:01:07,859 --> 01:01:08,489
had to.

1027
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:13,890
So what am I system at 22,000
miles an hour. But anyway, so so

1028
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:16,050
they've been listening to this
as it's, you know, it's

1029
01:01:16,050 --> 01:01:18,300
moderately interesting, my
daughter comes down and she

1030
01:01:18,300 --> 01:01:23,340
says, You're nuts and leaves.
And then. So then I hear this,

1031
01:01:23,340 --> 01:01:25,590
and I said, I got to play this
for Adam, because I know he's

1032
01:01:25,590 --> 01:01:28,620
going to be interested in this
because it's, it's actually an

1033
01:01:28,620 --> 01:01:31,770
EQ and he explains how this
thing works, how the system

1034
01:01:31,770 --> 01:01:34,380
works and how it can be
deployed, but somebody asks you

1035
01:01:34,380 --> 01:01:38,520
kind of an offbeat question.
And, and the guy makes a point

1036
01:01:38,550 --> 01:01:41,220
of not answering the question in
such a way he could have it

1037
01:01:41,220 --> 01:01:43,500
because he ends up answering the
question, but he makes the

1038
01:01:43,500 --> 01:01:46,950
statement at the end that I
thought was weird, but So play.

1039
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:50,040
Why say it? Thank you.

1040
01:01:50,070 --> 01:01:55,770
Yeah, sure. How effective you
think that the agent system

1041
01:01:55,770 --> 01:02:00,660
might be intercepting missile
launch from say a barge or

1042
01:02:00,660 --> 01:02:05,340
trawler a few 100 miles off the
coast, or widen the Atlantic or

1043
01:02:05,340 --> 01:02:10,980
Pacific or in the Gulf of Mexico
aimed at putting an EMP warhead

1044
01:02:11,010 --> 01:02:14,520
300 miles over the continental
United States for an EMP.

1045
01:02:16,350 --> 01:02:19,440
I won't speak to EMP because
that exceeds the classification

1046
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:20,310
for the discussion.

1047
01:02:22,980 --> 01:02:24,300
So the question was,

1048
01:02:25,020 --> 01:02:28,770
how possible is it that the
Aegis system could could take

1049
01:02:28,770 --> 01:02:31,470
out take out an EMP weapon?

1050
01:02:31,710 --> 01:02:35,580
Yeah, he answers the question. I
didn't want to record the whole

1051
01:02:35,580 --> 01:02:38,580
thing. He actually answers that
question. But he makes a point

1052
01:02:38,580 --> 01:02:40,830
of saying you can't talk about
EMP but it's not really a

1053
01:02:40,830 --> 01:02:44,010
question about EMP is but he but
he makes this he makes the point

1054
01:02:44,010 --> 01:02:46,290
that he can't talk as if
somebody's going to check on

1055
01:02:46,290 --> 01:02:50,190
this. But he says yeah, you can
take it out just like anything

1056
01:02:50,190 --> 01:02:52,770
else if you have your position
right, which is buying these

1057
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:58,230
these multibillion dollar
systems that that sit on these

1058
01:02:58,230 --> 01:03:03,570
extremely elaborate ships and by
the way there's the sea What was

1059
01:03:03,570 --> 01:03:07,170
the name of the Erie it's the
Lake Erie or that there's one

1060
01:03:07,170 --> 01:03:10,410
ship that he kept talking about
because he's one of the maybe

1061
01:03:10,410 --> 01:03:14,820
the commander of it. But these
ships are they are just designed

1062
01:03:14,820 --> 01:03:18,270
to haul these anti ballistic
missile systems out to the ocean

1063
01:03:18,270 --> 01:03:21,300
and he says they got one
floating around Japan that is

1064
01:03:21,390 --> 01:03:24,180
covers the whole country there's
nothing can hit Japan if they

1065
01:03:24,180 --> 01:03:24,750
wanted to.

1066
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:27,420
Except for a typhoon

1067
01:03:28,020 --> 01:03:30,690
Okay, now the thing that's kind
of interesting is is these are

1068
01:03:30,690 --> 01:03:32,250
Raytheon missiles.

1069
01:03:32,790 --> 01:03:37,050
Here's my question this guy is
currently in service. Why what

1070
01:03:37,050 --> 01:03:40,290
is he doing talking about being
so proud about we sold them to

1071
01:03:40,290 --> 01:03:42,450
all these other countries isn't
he's just supposed to be doing

1072
01:03:42,450 --> 01:03:46,140
his job defending our country?
Why is he is he in sales for

1073
01:03:46,140 --> 01:03:47,790
some reason? Am I missing
something?

1074
01:03:48,330 --> 01:03:52,680
Like why is Norway buying this
and what are they worried about?

1075
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:57,720
So but I think the EMP questions
the one that was that came up I

1076
01:03:57,720 --> 01:04:00,540
said, Ah, this might be what
this whole thing is all about.

1077
01:04:00,540 --> 01:04:03,630
It's not about you know somebody
I mean, because let's face it if

1078
01:04:03,630 --> 01:04:08,550
somebody like let's say Iran
decided to send a nuke in at

1079
01:04:08,550 --> 01:04:13,620
Paris to blow up Paris, Iran
would be flat after that. I

1080
01:04:13,620 --> 01:04:15,900
mean, besides the Russians the
United States and all that we

1081
01:04:15,900 --> 01:04:19,320
have a lot of missiles you know
ready to be fired? Still I mean,

1082
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:22,320
we haven't taken them off line
and we would just flatten the

1083
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:24,690
counter would do would be
nothing left them around so they

1084
01:04:24,690 --> 01:04:27,870
wouldn't do this it makes no
sense but do an EMP attack is

1085
01:04:27,870 --> 01:04:31,320
kind of an interesting
interesting philosophical so So

1086
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:35,220
I wonder if because an EMP
attack is is relatively simple.

1087
01:04:35,430 --> 01:04:39,870
You know, if a nuclear bomb
detonates, it actually does kill

1088
01:04:39,900 --> 01:04:44,010
a lot of electrical devices in
the vicinity. So if you have an

1089
01:04:44,010 --> 01:04:47,220
EMP going up, you can blow it up
all you want. I think the EMP

1090
01:04:47,220 --> 01:04:50,280
strike will still take place
because if thing explodes then

1091
01:04:50,940 --> 01:04:52,380
you get your EMP.

1092
01:04:53,190 --> 01:04:54,960
Well, the way this thing
operates, it will hit the

1093
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:59,070
missile before it gets to the
apogee and it just blows it up

1094
01:04:59,070 --> 01:05:02,130
in flight into And then the bomb
will go off

1095
01:05:02,340 --> 01:05:05,250
to fuckers this world come to
John, what are we talking about

1096
01:05:05,250 --> 01:05:09,690
man's nuts? We deserve to die
all of us. So

1097
01:05:09,690 --> 01:05:13,500
the problem is is that you know,
it shows Raytheon's name comes

1098
01:05:13,500 --> 01:05:16,380
up the first thing I think of is
those phoney baloney patriots

1099
01:05:16,380 --> 01:05:19,530
that were in that, you know,
first Gulf War that were

1100
01:05:19,530 --> 01:05:22,800
supposedly blowing up the Scuds
when they weren't blowing him up

1101
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:26,310
at all. They did not one of them
hit. They finally admitted that

1102
01:05:26,310 --> 01:05:29,790
in front of Congress some years
and years later, but of course

1103
01:05:29,790 --> 01:05:32,940
they showed it on the news they
showed the Scud going up and

1104
01:05:32,940 --> 01:05:35,970
then they show the the thing
blowing up in fact, the sky was

1105
01:05:35,970 --> 01:05:38,100
just breaking up on its own

1106
01:05:38,969 --> 01:05:40,679
falling apart midflight

1107
01:05:41,279 --> 01:05:44,459
That's right. And you know, so
this guy would go up and fall

1108
01:05:44,459 --> 01:05:47,549
apart and in the Show All
Patriot took it out. John, look

1109
01:05:47,549 --> 01:05:48,119
out, look out,

1110
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:51,330
look out we have an EMP attack.
It's coming, it's coming. It's

1111
01:05:51,330 --> 01:05:51,840
coming.

1112
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:59,190
So I think we should need to
look into hardening our systems

1113
01:05:59,730 --> 01:06:02,400
against EMP In other words, what
do we do with our computer

1114
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:06,510
systems and our backup power
supplies and our generators and

1115
01:06:06,510 --> 01:06:10,560
all the rest of it? So if there
was ever an EMP blown up in the

1116
01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:14,880
area, what would we do to stay
online? What I understand is

1117
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:16,500
pretty much I need to surf the
web and

1118
01:06:16,710 --> 01:06:19,530
well we have talked about this
that part of the Smart Grid

1119
01:06:19,530 --> 01:06:21,180
might actually be for this

1120
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:22,710
Yeah, I'm thinking it is

1121
01:06:23,699 --> 01:06:26,159
but there's pretty much nothing
you can do it if you want to

1122
01:06:26,159 --> 01:06:29,579
protect equipment from an EMP it
has to be pretty much contained

1123
01:06:29,579 --> 01:06:32,969
in a steel case. So your your
chips,

1124
01:06:33,660 --> 01:06:37,950
Faraday cage work and somebody
else, anybody MPs, if I would

1125
01:06:37,950 --> 01:06:41,550
have fared like for example,
let's say you have a house and

1126
01:06:41,550 --> 01:06:42,270
you and you

1127
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:45,450
like let's say you have a
minimum security containment

1128
01:06:45,450 --> 01:06:45,960
cell,

1129
01:06:46,500 --> 01:06:51,930
you're placing probably totally
immune. But could you put a

1130
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:57,210
Faraday cage of a thin one in
the in the drywall or make

1131
01:06:57,210 --> 01:07:00,150
drywall with Faraday cage cable?
You know, just just uh, you

1132
01:07:00,150 --> 01:07:02,640
don't need much just like a net
of wires.

1133
01:07:02,670 --> 01:07:06,960
I think you need like LED or
something like that. I don't

1134
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:08,490
think it's Faraday cage. I

1135
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:11,190
think a Faraday cage will do it.
I promise.

1136
01:07:12,390 --> 01:07:16,110
I don't think so. I'm pretty
sure you need a lot more.

1137
01:07:16,830 --> 01:07:20,190
Well, I'm not sure I'm asking. I
want somebody to tell us. Still

1138
01:07:20,190 --> 01:07:22,500
following the what do I hear in
the background? John was a dog

1139
01:07:22,530 --> 01:07:25,110
that was once in and I can't do
anything about it now.

1140
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:30,480
Ah, let him come on. Let him in.
He's

1141
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:32,940
gonna be a pest if he comes in
here and it's gonna ruin the

1142
01:07:32,940 --> 01:07:34,410
show. Well, he's already ruining

1143
01:07:34,410 --> 01:07:34,890
the show

1144
01:07:34,890 --> 01:07:38,910
because it sounds like he's like
you've got him tied to a tree or

1145
01:07:38,910 --> 01:07:39,570
something.

1146
01:07:46,560 --> 01:07:51,210
Of course, the Blackwater news
is falling off the radar. Were

1147
01:07:51,210 --> 01:07:54,150
there I guess three
whistleblowers who are

1148
01:07:54,150 --> 01:07:55,290
testifying that

1149
01:07:58,320 --> 01:07:59,250
that's what you want.

1150
01:08:01,980 --> 01:08:05,550
What is that, man? That's wrong.
What have you done to this dog?

1151
01:08:10,470 --> 01:08:15,450
basset hound. He likes to talk.
He's not talking. He's crying.

1152
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:19,380
He's like feed me feed me. I
need some food. Please. Finally.

1153
01:08:27,300 --> 01:08:30,870
I've actually recorded this dog.
I've got a bunch of clips of

1154
01:08:30,870 --> 01:08:31,080
him.

1155
01:08:33,750 --> 01:08:38,190
John, it's not funny. It sounds
wrong. You don't own a dog. I've

1156
01:08:38,190 --> 01:08:45,000
had plenty of dogs. Not none
like this. One, you took care of

1157
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:45,540
them. They're

1158
01:08:46,380 --> 01:08:49,470
all right cover for me for one
minute. Okay.

1159
01:08:50,819 --> 01:08:55,079
Gee, what shall we do? Can you
still hear me while you're doing

1160
01:08:55,079 --> 01:08:55,919
whatever you're doing?

1161
01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:58,020
Take the dog out.

1162
01:09:00,270 --> 01:09:04,320
I'm not gonna cover for you,
man. I'm just gonna cut this out

1163
01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:08,160
of the show. Oh my god

1164
01:09:14,460 --> 01:09:17,460
Let's listen in to what's
happening in the animal kingdom

1165
01:09:17,460 --> 01:09:19,830
known as the Devorah compound

1166
01:09:34,710 --> 01:09:37,230
anyone's ever owned a basset
hound. They know they're very

1167
01:09:37,230 --> 01:09:38,070
demanding.

1168
01:09:39,210 --> 01:09:47,310
That was awesome dude. So just
two days before the Blackwater

1169
01:09:47,310 --> 01:09:51,870
employees filed all these sworn
statements that the company's

1170
01:09:51,870 --> 01:09:55,890
owner Eric Prince, views himself
as the Christian Crusader tasked

1171
01:09:55,890 --> 01:09:59,100
with eliminating Muslims and the
Islamic faith from the globe.

1172
01:09:59,430 --> 01:10:02,370
And as in Located in murdering
people who wanted to blow the

1173
01:10:02,370 --> 01:10:06,090
whistle on them the Obama
administration extended a

1174
01:10:06,090 --> 01:10:09,300
contract with Blackwater for
more than $20 million of

1175
01:10:09,330 --> 01:10:10,590
security services

1176
01:10:10,710 --> 01:10:14,040
look over here nothing to see
look at

1177
01:10:15,150 --> 01:10:17,220
these guys I thought these guys
were fired

1178
01:10:18,689 --> 01:10:21,689
they were fired or something you
know what I don't believe any of

1179
01:10:21,689 --> 01:10:24,119
these stories now. There's
something fake there's something

1180
01:10:24,509 --> 01:10:28,199
to something misinformation
disinformation, screwball about

1181
01:10:28,229 --> 01:10:30,899
all this stuff about this guy
and that company.

1182
01:10:30,990 --> 01:10:36,060
Well, Representative Jan
Schakowsky of Illinois is angry

1183
01:10:36,060 --> 01:10:41,460
about it about this contract.
Good. July 24, the army signed

1184
01:10:41,460 --> 01:10:47,910
an $8.9 million contract with
the aviation wing of z. Known as

1185
01:10:47,910 --> 01:10:52,260
presidential airways. This is
the this is the the private

1186
01:10:52,260 --> 01:10:56,970
airlines that that allegedly
we're smuggling illegal weapons

1187
01:10:56,970 --> 01:11:02,880
into Iraq hidden in dog food.
And this is for Aviation

1188
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:10,470
Services to Bagram Air Base in
Afghanistan. This is now here to

1189
01:11:11,130 --> 01:11:15,690
the aviation contract is
described as quote air charter

1190
01:11:15,690 --> 01:11:20,760
for things and, and non
scheduled charter passenger air

1191
01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:25,260
transportation. I like air
charter for things. I should try

1192
01:11:25,260 --> 01:11:28,410
that on my next filing with the
flight formula and my flight

1193
01:11:28,410 --> 01:11:31,800
plan. I'm air charter for things
you watch how quickly I'm not

1194
01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:34,470
getting off the ground if you
file a report that says that.

1195
01:11:35,070 --> 01:11:37,020
Yeah, minimally

1196
01:11:37,050 --> 01:11:40,260
unbelievable. Read the whole
story in the show notes that

1197
01:11:40,740 --> 01:11:42,120
ended up me veoh.com

1198
01:11:42,450 --> 01:11:46,230
Why don't you play that clip I
have coming to an end,

1199
01:11:46,650 --> 01:11:50,160
coming to an end here we go. But
we knew

1200
01:11:50,250 --> 01:11:56,430
instantly in our hearts that the
nightmare of our lives was

1201
01:11:56,460 --> 01:11:58,710
finally coming to an end

1202
01:12:05,580 --> 01:12:08,250
that was a John C. Dvorak added
by the way.

1203
01:12:09,810 --> 01:12:11,070
You know, Wall

1204
01:12:11,070 --> 01:12:17,190
Street Journal Hold on. This is
from DC I picked this up. One of

1205
01:12:17,190 --> 01:12:20,010
my neighbours moved out but his
subscription still comes through

1206
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:26,280
really free newspapers another
benefit free newspapers.

1207
01:12:26,550 --> 01:12:34,020
So this whole story and let me
see if it here it is. WORLD

1208
01:12:34,020 --> 01:12:38,850
NEWS. And here's from left Al
Gore and Joel Hyatt cofounders

1209
01:12:38,850 --> 01:12:41,880
of Current TV and Bill Clinton
celebrate the return of two

1210
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:45,150
journalists from North Korea on
Wednesday. And I love this

1211
01:12:45,150 --> 01:12:49,650
description. Let me see if I can
find this. Okay. Hugs so there's

1212
01:12:49,650 --> 01:12:54,570
a sidebar hugs Pat's as rivals
reconcile. So of course, there's

1213
01:12:54,570 --> 01:12:58,050
always some tension between Al
and bill. Mr. Gore, whose

1214
01:12:58,050 --> 01:13:01,680
current TV employs the reporters
applauded as Mr. Clinton climb

1215
01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:04,530
down the steps at Bob Hope
airport airport in Burbank,

1216
01:13:04,530 --> 01:13:07,410
California. At first they seem
destined for a routine

1217
01:13:07,410 --> 01:13:11,370
handshake. But Mr. Clinton
pulled Mr. Gore into a bear hug.

1218
01:13:11,550 --> 01:13:15,030
Mr. Gore hesitated just a moment
his left hand suspended above

1219
01:13:15,030 --> 01:13:17,760
Mr. Clinton shoulder blade
before it descended into a to

1220
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:22,530
Pat man hug. Mr. Clinton matched
him raised him a third Pat added

1221
01:13:22,530 --> 01:13:25,560
to right hand and strokes and
three more Pat's before they

1222
01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:31,860
disentangled. Yeah, five seconds
after their chest met Mr.

1223
01:13:31,860 --> 01:13:34,350
Clinton turn to join the
journalist emotionally in the

1224
01:13:34,350 --> 01:13:37,620
journal. This is the Wall Street
Journal. I need some like, let

1225
01:13:37,620 --> 01:13:39,210
me see do I have I wish I hit
the

1226
01:13:39,210 --> 01:13:40,200
real news clip.

1227
01:13:43,740 --> 01:13:50,040
And now back to real. Mr. Gore,
whose current TV employs the

1228
01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:53,850
reporters applauded as Mr.
Clinton climbed down the steps

1229
01:13:53,850 --> 01:13:58,560
of Bob Hope airport in Burbank,
California. At first, they seem

1230
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:02,910
destined for routine handshake.
But Mr. Clinton pulled Mr. Gore

1231
01:14:02,910 --> 01:14:08,700
into a bear. Mr. Gore hesitated
just a moment. His left hand

1232
01:14:08,700 --> 01:14:11,970
suspended above Mr. Clinton
shoulder blade before it

1233
01:14:11,970 --> 01:14:18,750
descended into a two pad, man.
Mr. Clinton matched him raised

1234
01:14:18,750 --> 01:14:24,540
him a third bat added to right
handed strokes and three more

1235
01:14:24,540 --> 01:14:30,810
Pat's before they disentangle.
Sorry,

1236
01:14:31,290 --> 01:14:32,340
I think you nailed it.

1237
01:14:32,369 --> 01:14:36,719
Yes. Kind of horny. I got turned
on by myself for a second. So

1238
01:14:36,779 --> 01:14:40,859
the final so the journalist
reunite with families in the US

1239
01:14:40,859 --> 01:14:44,159
this whole story about you know
how wonderful blah blah blah,

1240
01:14:44,369 --> 01:14:49,649
no, no, written Of course, it's
now Murdoch publication. Nothing

1241
01:14:49,649 --> 01:14:52,979
at all about the fact that these
two journalists were on

1242
01:14:52,979 --> 01:14:57,269
assignment and across the border
illegally to go get a story but

1243
01:14:57,269 --> 01:15:01,469
the final paragraph, the final
final paragraph of this whole

1244
01:15:01,469 --> 01:15:05,819
page. The detention and release
of the women have brought much

1245
01:15:05,849 --> 01:15:09,509
attention to Current TV, which
has struggled to broaden its

1246
01:15:09,539 --> 01:15:12,869
audience. It's since it was
launched four years ago, the

1247
01:15:12,869 --> 01:15:16,619
company had been preparing for a
$100 million Initial Public

1248
01:15:16,619 --> 01:15:19,619
Offering but recently cancelled
these plans.

1249
01:15:20,580 --> 01:15:23,430
So I'm because no anyone has
subscribed to Turkey.

1250
01:15:23,460 --> 01:15:27,690
Yeah, I'm telling you this is
this was a PR move for current

1251
01:15:28,830 --> 01:15:35,610
and and a great PR move for Kim
Jong Il. Yeah. Yeah, of course

1252
01:15:35,610 --> 01:15:36,660
you'd like to do.

1253
01:15:37,890 --> 01:15:40,890
A Of course, they had a shitting
grin on his face the whole time.

1254
01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:41,760
Well, of course, because

1255
01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:45,450
they've shut down all media in
North Korea. He thought that he

1256
01:15:45,450 --> 01:15:48,000
was actually getting the current
president of the United States

1257
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:50,340
he didn't realise that Bill
Clinton is no longer president.

1258
01:15:50,490 --> 01:15:54,420
When he doesn't really care. The
point the thing is a divided by

1259
01:15:54,420 --> 01:15:57,690
the girls were never in prison.
They were in a hotel. Hotel.

1260
01:15:57,720 --> 01:16:00,030
Exactly. Room service.

1261
01:16:00,900 --> 01:16:06,210
So people have been giving me
flack for that. Why? Oh, man,

1262
01:16:06,210 --> 01:16:08,250
you shouldn't be laughing at
that shit, man. That's not

1263
01:16:08,250 --> 01:16:12,210
right. That's the right man.
Man,

1264
01:16:12,510 --> 01:16:17,370
the one who was whining in the
coming to an end clip. Let's

1265
01:16:17,370 --> 01:16:19,560
play it again. By the way, just
like the way her voice says

1266
01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:20,340
Trump Molo.

1267
01:16:21,570 --> 01:16:24,660
Oops, sorry. I blew that my
mistake here we go.

1268
01:16:24,780 --> 01:16:31,860
We knew instantly in our hearts
that the nightmare of our lives

1269
01:16:31,980 --> 01:16:34,500
was finally coming to an end

1270
01:16:36,540 --> 01:16:40,770
jobs jobs and jobs Let's vote
for jobs.

1271
01:16:42,780 --> 01:16:46,080
So the worst thing the worst
thing about their their

1272
01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:50,700
imprisonment in in in North
Korea, John you know what it

1273
01:16:50,700 --> 01:16:54,480
was? What no service for you.
There was no room service.

1274
01:16:55,229 --> 01:16:59,819
Oh, there wasn't so anyway, she
sounds like Edith PF

1275
01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:03,600
does sound like a tip off? Yeah.
Which is the correct

1276
01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:04,380
pronunciation

1277
01:17:05,850 --> 01:17:08,910
so anyway, so they had her on
Current TV so I flipped on

1278
01:17:08,910 --> 01:17:11,370
Current TV and watched it so the
publicity stunt worked for me

1279
01:17:11,370 --> 01:17:14,070
and it's a dreadful dreadful
stuff so they decided to show

1280
01:17:14,070 --> 01:17:18,960
some of her old stuff and a
special you know, she's like

1281
01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:19,530
this you know,

1282
01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:24,570
she'll she'll be on CBS 60 Min
Oh, Pulitzer.

1283
01:17:25,170 --> 01:17:28,050
Sugar Pulitzer now anyway, so
this your author she was showing

1284
01:17:28,050 --> 01:17:31,680
sneaking into you know, parts of
Turkey she's not supposed to go

1285
01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:34,020
to and, and in the current area
of

1286
01:17:34,020 --> 01:17:36,720
journalism, why don't you go
sneak into the White House?

1287
01:17:36,750 --> 01:17:39,330
Okay, sneaking around the
manuals office, then I'll

1288
01:17:39,330 --> 01:17:40,110
applaud you.

1289
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:44,520
So she's sneaking around and so
Oh, no, we we use an accident

1290
01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:48,060
that we got caught. Yeah, it was
an accident got caught. What do

1291
01:17:48,060 --> 01:17:50,310
you think you're doing? It just
doesn't make any sense. So what

1292
01:17:50,310 --> 01:17:55,410
are you going to find out that
that we don't know? Well, I

1293
01:17:55,410 --> 01:17:58,410
don't know. It's just annoying.
I find her annoying. And I find

1294
01:17:58,410 --> 01:18:02,040
people that that can't see
through this to be annoying to

1295
01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:06,330
anyway, so that's the kind of
thing we do. By the way. I do

1296
01:18:06,330 --> 01:18:09,060
want to I do have one pet peeve.
I think I'm gonna do one a week.

1297
01:18:09,540 --> 01:18:14,430
Okay. It's just a minor pet
peeve. It just bugs me. Play the

1298
01:18:14,430 --> 01:18:15,330
friends clip.

1299
01:18:16,050 --> 01:18:18,990
Is this from the TV series
Friends? Yeah. It's a clip from

1300
01:18:18,990 --> 01:18:21,030
the show. Is that show still in
production? No,

1301
01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:24,600
no, no, it's just on ultimate
reruns.

1302
01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:26,400
Oh, sure. Well,

1303
01:18:27,750 --> 01:18:33,690
let me think. What do I want?
What do I want?

1304
01:18:34,979 --> 01:18:38,279
Please take your time. It's an
important decision not like say,

1305
01:18:38,399 --> 01:18:42,239
I don't know deciding to marry
someone. This is about a muffin.

1306
01:18:44,639 --> 01:18:46,829
blueberry, blueberry it is.

1307
01:18:50,070 --> 01:18:55,950
Okay, what is the deal with
canned laughter? It's steak

1308
01:18:55,980 --> 01:18:59,310
stinks. It ruins the show. If
people would watch 30 rock which

1309
01:18:59,310 --> 01:19:03,210
is a good comedy has no canned
laughter No. phoney audience

1310
01:19:03,210 --> 01:19:03,720
nothing.

1311
01:19:03,750 --> 01:19:04,830
No one watches it.

1312
01:19:05,460 --> 01:19:07,560
It's a huge hit. Are you
kidding? No, it's

1313
01:19:07,560 --> 01:19:11,640
not it is not a huge hit. It has
received many accolades and

1314
01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:15,810
awards. Exactly. The opposite is
true. And Tina Fey jokes about

1315
01:19:15,810 --> 01:19:18,270
this all the time. Their numbers
are actually quite

1316
01:19:18,270 --> 01:19:20,970
low. Well, people should watch
the show

1317
01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:23,370
they need to put some canned
laughter in so that they get

1318
01:19:23,370 --> 01:19:24,390
some real numbers.

1319
01:19:24,450 --> 01:19:27,240
This is not the point in my
argument to have you take the

1320
01:19:27,240 --> 01:19:29,430
other side of canned laughter

1321
01:19:29,460 --> 01:19:32,490
But Hi come from this world this
is that people are so

1322
01:19:32,490 --> 01:19:36,090
conditioned. When you hear the
laughter It actually triggers

1323
01:19:36,090 --> 01:19:39,720
laughter in yourself. That's
what this horrible canned

1324
01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:42,990
laughter that they put in after
the just says the word blueberry

1325
01:19:42,990 --> 01:19:46,080
muffin and a bunch of people
Twitter, or you know, Twitter,

1326
01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:50,160
I'm sorry, Twitter. They tear it
so funny, which is some guy

1327
01:19:50,190 --> 01:19:52,770
turning the knob up and down. Or
you know, there's different

1328
01:19:52,770 --> 01:19:54,930
kinds of knobs they got the
thing down to a fine art. Now

1329
01:19:54,930 --> 01:19:57,120
you got you know, almost
individual laughs and stuff you

1330
01:19:57,120 --> 01:20:01,080
can control. But it's like I
find it this And I think it's

1331
01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:03,780
distracting. It's annoying, and
I think it's insulting.

1332
01:20:03,810 --> 01:20:06,330
You need to look at America's
Funniest Home Videos. That's

1333
01:20:06,330 --> 01:20:09,330
where they really do the canned
laughter. And it is insulting

1334
01:20:09,330 --> 01:20:13,680
and but it's insulting to you.
And only you because this is

1335
01:20:13,710 --> 01:20:17,130
this is insulted by this. No,
I'm not insulted. I don't give a

1336
01:20:17,130 --> 01:20:22,020
shit. I don't watch that crap is
because it's below my

1337
01:20:22,020 --> 01:20:27,180
intelligence level, John. So
this has been going on TV shows

1338
01:20:27,210 --> 01:20:31,110
reality TV shows, if there
depends on what kind of it's the

1339
01:20:31,110 --> 01:20:34,230
unscripted drama, there is no
audience so there's no canned

1340
01:20:34,230 --> 01:20:34,830
laughter.

1341
01:20:35,700 --> 01:20:39,480
They need a laugh track. Let's
take one of these shows and put

1342
01:20:39,480 --> 01:20:41,460
a laugh track down and see if it
improves it.

1343
01:20:41,910 --> 01:20:44,730
Of course, again, when you're
not watching it, it becomes that

1344
01:20:44,730 --> 01:20:47,670
much. That much more apparent.
How can that is? Let's listen

1345
01:20:47,670 --> 01:20:56,880
again. Oh, sure. Well, let me
think. What do I want? Turn it

1346
01:20:56,880 --> 01:21:02,580
up right there do I want you can
actually, it's hilarious.

1347
01:21:02,580 --> 01:21:05,910
Sometimes they will, you know,
they record these, these

1348
01:21:05,910 --> 01:21:09,030
laughters usually they record it
right before the show was taped.

1349
01:21:09,510 --> 01:21:12,450
And they have Everyone applauded
and laugh and they have

1350
01:21:12,450 --> 01:21:15,180
comedians come out and tell
jokes. They actually record the

1351
01:21:15,180 --> 01:21:18,210
audience really laughing. But
they'll use it sometimes you'll

1352
01:21:18,210 --> 01:21:22,140
hear like there'll be one woman
ago. You'll hear that over and

1353
01:21:22,140 --> 01:21:23,730
over and over again in the
candlelight.

1354
01:21:23,970 --> 01:21:26,430
Take your time. It's an
important decision. Not like

1355
01:21:26,430 --> 01:21:29,940
say, I don't know deciding to
marry someone. This is about a

1356
01:21:29,940 --> 01:21:35,310
muffin. blueberry, blueberry it
is.

1357
01:21:38,550 --> 01:21:40,920
But this has been going on since
the 50s. John, there's nothing

1358
01:21:40,950 --> 01:21:43,740
I hate. I just said it's a pet
peeve. I wanted to bring it up.

1359
01:21:43,740 --> 01:21:46,920
I was just flipping around. I
turned off Current TV. And of

1360
01:21:46,920 --> 01:21:49,800
course, I was highly annoyed by
that. And so when I turn this

1361
01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:52,560
on, I saw this. This is really I
can't take it. So I had to

1362
01:21:52,590 --> 01:21:55,410
record this and complain. Just a
moment of complaint.

1363
01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:59,069
That's cool. Keith Ray, one of
our producers sent us a fabulous

1364
01:21:59,069 --> 01:22:03,149
offer, which I will put in our
show notes because any one of

1365
01:22:03,149 --> 01:22:06,179
our producers may want to jump
on this. It's a great deal

1366
01:22:06,209 --> 01:22:11,039
American Airlines flight to
Moscow $199. One way.

1367
01:22:13,410 --> 01:22:19,590
One way I like that one way,
this probably a good time of the

1368
01:22:19,590 --> 01:22:24,600
year to go to Moscow, or mosque
as a Moscow or Moscow McBath.

1369
01:22:25,440 --> 01:22:28,050
Yeah, well, that's probably what
it really is. So I think it's

1370
01:22:28,050 --> 01:22:31,980
about time we discuss some of
the benefits of contributing to

1371
01:22:31,980 --> 01:22:32,670
this show.

1372
01:22:32,820 --> 01:22:37,770
Yes, let me let me bring up. Can
I do a couple of the women here?

1373
01:22:38,430 --> 01:22:42,480
Let me rephrase that. Can I read
some of the guys from our feet

1374
01:22:42,480 --> 01:22:48,960
from our female donators? Sure.
Okay. Tanya Wyman donated

1375
01:22:48,990 --> 01:22:55,170
$161.80, of course, thank you
very much. Here's what she says.

1376
01:22:55,170 --> 01:22:58,320
Thanks so much for bringing us
the real real news twice a week

1377
01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:00,900
every week just made my second
donation a bit late for Sunday

1378
01:23:00,900 --> 01:23:04,260
show but I was delayed prepping
a batch of crock pot, chilli

1379
01:23:05,340 --> 01:23:08,310
August in New York City, but
it's actually a bit chilly here

1380
01:23:08,310 --> 01:23:10,710
for August Anyway, go figure.
And we this time, it's in the

1381
01:23:10,710 --> 01:23:14,760
amount of $161.80, which does
mean something I'll give you a

1382
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:19,680
couple of hints. It's related to
fractals, and the decimal point

1383
01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:27,360
is two places off. John, can you
figure it out? 161 80. And it's

1384
01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:28,080
related to

1385
01:23:31,050 --> 01:23:34,800
161 So it'd be 100 when it says
two places off, which means it's

1386
01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:42,000
either 1.618 or 16180 point
16180 Which is what it has to be

1387
01:23:42,030 --> 01:23:44,400
it has to go that way because
otherwise it makes no sense. You

1388
01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:50,190
could have given us 16 bucks, so
it would be 16180 So I would

1389
01:23:50,190 --> 01:23:55,770
assume it's a date, like 1/16 of
January but that would be a

1390
01:23:55,770 --> 01:23:59,580
European style of dating so it
wouldn't be that it would be 161

1391
01:23:59,610 --> 01:24:03,900
ad I don't know what do you got?
I don't have anything Oh, well

1392
01:24:03,900 --> 01:24:05,910
maybe somebody in the chat room
configured this I'm gonna

1393
01:24:05,910 --> 01:24:07,950
actually go look at the chats as
they come in.

1394
01:24:08,340 --> 01:24:11,610
She does say she hopes to become
another female night at some

1395
01:24:11,610 --> 01:24:16,260
point at least on the on the
layaway programme. And she says

1396
01:24:16,260 --> 01:24:18,690
if you guys do the no agenda
dinner in New York City I'm

1397
01:24:18,690 --> 01:24:21,420
definitely there. Cool.

1398
01:24:22,050 --> 01:24:24,750
Okay, we got a well put the
mailing list thing up this week

1399
01:24:25,350 --> 01:24:27,810
for the for the dinner so people
can go to No

1400
01:24:27,810 --> 01:24:31,380
agenda.squarespace.com and then
put them name on the mailing

1401
01:24:31,380 --> 01:24:35,100
list or then go to divorce
act.org/n A.

1402
01:24:36,420 --> 01:24:41,250
And this one. I liked a lot this
email from Eleanor Schultz,

1403
01:24:41,460 --> 01:24:44,640
Aloha John and Adam. I am a
listener a producer who is

1404
01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:47,790
coming to you from a grass hut
in Gitmo nation Mid Pacific on

1405
01:24:47,850 --> 01:24:51,240
Oahu, Hawaii. My boyfriend
turned me on to your show a few

1406
01:24:51,240 --> 01:24:53,670
months back and I've been hooked
ever since we have a blast

1407
01:24:53,670 --> 01:24:56,430
listening to the jingles amidst
the theories, conspiracies and

1408
01:24:56,430 --> 01:24:59,820
truths surrounding all things
Gitmo Look, let me be clear on

1409
01:24:59,820 --> 01:25:02,970
why I'm tossing you my donation
for the armoury winery library

1410
01:25:02,970 --> 01:25:06,270
and Lynn Guiza sausage wreath,
which by the way is the

1411
01:25:06,270 --> 01:25:09,210
unofficial state sausage. We
call it Portuguese sausage. My

1412
01:25:09,210 --> 01:25:11,700
boyfriend John Foley is
celebrating his birthday on

1413
01:25:11,700 --> 01:25:16,140
August 12. It's a bit hard to
buy a gift for him, so I figured

1414
01:25:16,170 --> 01:25:20,460
I'd give a gift in his name. To
add to something we both enjoy.

1415
01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:26,310
My donation of $69.40 represents
his birth year and his age, born

1416
01:25:26,310 --> 01:25:30,300
in 1969. Turning 40 I hope this
is enough a donation to allow a

1417
01:25:30,300 --> 01:25:33,120
quick Happy Birthday during your
donation shout outs thank you

1418
01:25:33,120 --> 01:25:35,550
both for your insight,
commentary and wit and keeping

1419
01:25:35,550 --> 01:25:38,040
up the great work. In the
meantime, we will be searching

1420
01:25:38,040 --> 01:25:40,980
for the long lost Obama birth
certificate and hunkering down

1421
01:25:40,980 --> 01:25:44,400
in our bunkers to avoid to to
the islands from Kim Jong Il

1422
01:25:44,400 --> 01:25:47,190
while voting for jobs. Yay.
Jobs,

1423
01:25:47,370 --> 01:25:51,600
jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote
for jobs.

1424
01:25:53,939 --> 01:25:55,199
By the way, yeah,

1425
01:25:55,200 --> 01:25:57,600
so together, we should just say
happy birthday. John Foley

1426
01:25:57,600 --> 01:26:01,560
wouldn't want to do it. Yeah.
123 Happy birthday, John. John

1427
01:26:01,560 --> 01:26:02,190
Foley

1428
01:26:03,720 --> 01:26:05,190
doesn't work with Skype, does
it?

1429
01:26:05,490 --> 01:26:08,940
No, not at all. But it's pretty
funny, I'm sure. So somebody

1430
01:26:08,940 --> 01:26:17,790
says that 1.61 is is phi which
is constant. I never heard of

1431
01:26:17,790 --> 01:26:23,310
phi phi, phi pH. I guess it's
not pi phi. I don't know what

1432
01:26:23,310 --> 01:26:27,330
phi is. It'd be nice to be
explained it. The name of some

1433
01:26:27,330 --> 01:26:29,610
constant Well, here are some
other people that gave us some

1434
01:26:29,760 --> 01:26:35,370
funding. Per new producers Adam
per bola. $50. She's in

1435
01:26:35,370 --> 01:26:38,820
Bensenville Illinois. By the way
Eleanor shelters is in WIA Nia,

1436
01:26:38,850 --> 01:26:43,020
which is like a really nice
little town. Adam, Preble.

1437
01:26:43,050 --> 01:26:48,360
parola or Puebla, Bensenville
Illinois, a Joe a wiener D W. e

1438
01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:52,110
i n ad why in Bowling Green,
Ohio again we have Americans,

1439
01:26:52,650 --> 01:26:56,250
Travis, Travis then he's 50 and
Travis when you're everybody's

1440
01:26:56,250 --> 01:27:04,620
51 Travis when is in Hemet,
California. 50. Tres Tristan

1441
01:27:05,130 --> 01:27:10,140
Lennon, which is a this is a
second donation of 50 from Wagga

1442
01:27:10,140 --> 01:27:14,370
Wagga New South North something
southwest territory somebody

1443
01:27:14,370 --> 01:27:16,770
Australia as the name of the
town yeah, thanks

1444
01:27:16,770 --> 01:27:18,900
Chris. Appreciate the second
donation man that's cool.

1445
01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:24,120
Jeff Baron in Woodstock,
Georgia. He actually has power

1446
01:27:24,120 --> 01:27:29,010
there and then we have to Why
are you insulting people like

1447
01:27:29,010 --> 01:27:31,620
that? Keeping us

1448
01:27:31,620 --> 01:27:33,510
on the air and you're insulting
them

1449
01:27:33,900 --> 01:27:37,230
oh it's just Woodstock seems
like like out there out there

1450
01:27:37,230 --> 01:27:46,320
place. I live in Woodstock
Georgia. We got a Roman lives

1451
01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:53,850
it's I think it's live them off.
It's LIU BEI mo ve who's in vol

1452
01:27:53,880 --> 01:27:56,790
vode Switzerland, which I
believe is one of those places

1453
01:27:56,790 --> 01:28:00,960
that it's like a shot I think
one of these places where

1454
01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:03,390
there's a lot of famous rich
people staying How do you spell

1455
01:28:03,390 --> 01:28:05,010
it? VA Ud?

1456
01:28:05,850 --> 01:28:10,740
vode probably a lot of on
unknowingness Yeah, rich people.

1457
01:28:10,830 --> 01:28:13,200
Well, they would say that
there's some something going on

1458
01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:16,860
because he gave us two
donations. 150 But it just to

1459
01:28:16,860 --> 01:28:21,660
make his point and he gave us a
number $19.17 which I think is

1460
01:28:21,660 --> 01:28:25,530
when the IRS was invented right
1917 I

1461
01:28:26,040 --> 01:28:27,900
don't know. I wasn't around
them.

1462
01:28:28,530 --> 01:28:33,960
I was just a kid. Johnny but
anyways, thanks. That's good.

1463
01:28:34,140 --> 01:28:40,680
Thanks for the donation Roman.
Johnny Santos 50 Peter Smilla

1464
01:28:40,680 --> 01:28:44,010
cough Smilla cough did I didn't
have him I think I hadn't before

1465
01:28:44,010 --> 01:28:47,940
Galloway, Ohio 5744 Matthew
Belmar by the way anyone who

1466
01:28:47,940 --> 01:28:51,120
contributes like during these
hours sometimes will get

1467
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:56,250
mentioned twice. It goes to
Belmar Woolcott, Connecticut

1468
01:28:56,880 --> 01:29:03,630
$50. John to read our Terada in
Pasadena 50. And that's about

1469
01:29:03,630 --> 01:29:04,950
it. Now I want

1470
01:29:04,950 --> 01:29:09,330
more from Matthew Wilson who
sent us an interesting number

1471
01:29:09,330 --> 01:29:17,490
$78.65 And he actually explains
what it is. Can you guess

1472
01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:25,590
$78.65 78? No. Okay. 78 is the
ASCII decimal number for N and

1473
01:29:25,590 --> 01:29:31,620
65 is ASCII decimal number for a
Oh cute. I like cute. Yeah,

1474
01:29:31,650 --> 01:29:32,580
thank you very much. Yeah, we

1475
01:29:32,580 --> 01:29:36,270
never gets that stuff. New South
Wales by the way to it NSW

1476
01:29:36,270 --> 01:29:42,990
stands for anyway. Australia. To
me like coughs 5744 is not

1477
01:29:42,990 --> 01:29:47,580
explained. Do we have any idea
what that is? 5744 6740 Oh, no,

1478
01:29:47,580 --> 01:29:49,890
nevermind. This was an old one.
That's right. That's our two

1479
01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:52,920
ages supposedly. DS getting way
too much crap.

1480
01:29:54,300 --> 01:29:58,380
Incorrect. You are 5744 Right on
the money you wish

1481
01:29:59,400 --> 01:30:05,640
to win. If you really wanted to
say in that amount it is 6544 65

1482
01:30:05,640 --> 01:30:08,880
Bull 64, then no.

1483
01:30:12,030 --> 01:30:14,280
You all you have to do is look
it up in the New York Times.

1484
01:30:14,280 --> 01:30:15,030
Exactly.

1485
01:30:15,150 --> 01:30:18,810
Bring John, I have an important
message for you. Okay, because

1486
01:30:18,810 --> 01:30:23,670
it will not put seniors in a
position of being put to death

1487
01:30:23,670 --> 01:30:24,630
by their government.

1488
01:30:24,870 --> 01:30:25,740
That's just for you.

1489
01:30:25,979 --> 01:30:31,109
I need that clip. So I can I
have that clip. At the end. I

1490
01:30:31,109 --> 01:30:32,759
want to put the yea at the end
of that one.

1491
01:30:32,849 --> 01:30:34,709
I just wanted to mention, forget
wait before

1492
01:30:34,710 --> 01:30:39,390
you mentioned anything. Both
Michael Atkinson and Korean from

1493
01:30:39,390 --> 01:30:42,840
Holland, Michael Atkinson. And
particularly he's recording he's

1494
01:30:42,840 --> 01:30:47,910
in Korean. He's in Namibia, and
he knows how to do crop circles.

1495
01:30:48,090 --> 01:30:51,090
He says that particular one that
we're talking about is easy to

1496
01:30:51,090 --> 01:30:53,220
do. And he has all the
geometrics, he says, he says

1497
01:30:53,220 --> 01:30:56,580
done with ropes. And he says you
do the stakeout. And he says

1498
01:30:56,580 --> 01:30:59,130
it's much easier to do these
things at night because you can

1499
01:30:59,130 --> 01:31:02,850
use the cars flashlights can be
used as as methodologies for

1500
01:31:02,970 --> 01:31:06,240
creating a straight line that
you can't do during the day. And

1501
01:31:06,240 --> 01:31:08,910
he says they're brain dead easy.
He said three, four hours you

1502
01:31:08,910 --> 01:31:13,860
get one of those done and is it
green in Holland, Karina in

1503
01:31:13,860 --> 01:31:16,740
Holland mentioned that the
Firefox logo was done. And she's

1504
01:31:16,860 --> 01:31:20,010
turned me on to three or four
people who did it. And she said

1505
01:31:20,010 --> 01:31:24,330
that they can easily copy this
stuff. And so the question is,

1506
01:31:24,330 --> 01:31:27,120
are you going to put up for
under $50,000. For this

1507
01:31:27,150 --> 01:31:27,780
challenge,

1508
01:31:27,810 --> 01:31:31,710
John, invest in a plane ticket,
you've got 15 hours, you can do

1509
01:31:31,710 --> 01:31:34,650
it in broad daylight you can do
with your flashlights, I want a

1510
01:31:34,650 --> 01:31:38,340
replica of what is taking place
in a wheelchair. And go ahead

1511
01:31:38,340 --> 01:31:40,110
and you can go do go

1512
01:31:40,110 --> 01:31:43,770
ahead and try to rush the gold
bar from your cold dead hands.

1513
01:31:47,310 --> 01:31:52,620
new guidelines and rules for the
media in Ireland, as we have the

1514
01:31:52,830 --> 01:31:58,290
do over of the Lisbon Treaty
referendum vote coming up. They

1515
01:31:58,290 --> 01:32:01,770
are now in effect. As of last
Friday, two changes had been

1516
01:32:01,770 --> 01:32:05,310
made to the guidelines that were
implemented following

1517
01:32:05,310 --> 01:32:08,400
consideration of the guidelines
that the BCI board the

1518
01:32:08,430 --> 01:32:12,090
broadcasting commission of
Ireland put into place. They're

1519
01:32:12,090 --> 01:32:15,750
intended to clarify the means by
which broadcasters allocate air

1520
01:32:15,750 --> 01:32:18,660
time during the period when the
guidelines and proper are in

1521
01:32:18,660 --> 01:32:25,740
operation. So this is how
they're doing it. There's no

1522
01:32:25,740 --> 01:32:29,820
requirement to allocate an
absolute equality of airtime to

1523
01:32:31,170 --> 01:32:35,010
opposing sides of the referendum
debate during editorial

1524
01:32:35,010 --> 01:32:38,970
coverage. The guidelines require
broadcasters to ensure that the

1525
01:32:38,970 --> 01:32:41,760
proportion of airtime allocated
to both sides, and it must be

1526
01:32:41,760 --> 01:32:44,970
fair to all interests and
undertaken in a transparent

1527
01:32:44,970 --> 01:32:51,540
manner. Okay, that sounded to me
like wasn't fair. And then

1528
01:32:51,540 --> 01:32:54,150
secondly, the guidelines clarify
the requirements to ensure that

1529
01:32:54,150 --> 01:32:57,210
the total time allocated to
political party broadcasts will

1530
01:32:57,210 --> 01:33:00,300
result in equal airtime being
afforded to parties that support

1531
01:33:00,300 --> 01:33:05,370
the referendum proposals and
those that oppose them. So if

1532
01:33:05,370 --> 01:33:09,870
it's editorial coverage, it's
free for all but if it's actual

1533
01:33:09,900 --> 01:33:14,430
political party broadcasts, and
often with state run media, you

1534
01:33:14,430 --> 01:33:18,330
know, political parties get time
allocated to them, which I think

1535
01:33:18,360 --> 01:33:21,480
I think that's pretty much
standard that will have to

1536
01:33:21,480 --> 01:33:28,020
remain on equal time allocation.
But no requirement to allocate

1537
01:33:28,020 --> 01:33:30,900
an absolute equality of airtime
to opposing sides of the

1538
01:33:30,900 --> 01:33:34,380
referendum debate during
editorial coverage, in other

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01:33:34,380 --> 01:33:40,470
words, slanted as you will. And
that's now the rules. So I guess

1540
01:33:40,470 --> 01:33:41,970
we've got a yes vote coming up.

1541
01:33:42,570 --> 01:33:46,560
Yeah, well, eventually, we just
keep running it by I'm pretty

1542
01:33:46,560 --> 01:33:49,350
sure to do one at midnight on
Sunday. And, you know, see what

1543
01:33:49,350 --> 01:33:54,420
happens. So Feigen bombs
constant is what this is

1544
01:33:54,420 --> 01:34:01,260
supposed to be that fi but I'm
looking at the Wikipedia. That's

1545
01:34:01,260 --> 01:34:04,950
just one of those things. I love
it. What's it used for? Anyway?

1546
01:34:04,980 --> 01:34:05,550
Okay.

1547
01:34:06,450 --> 01:34:09,750
So you have Eclipse less than
nothing? Yeah, we can

1548
01:34:09,750 --> 01:34:10,830
use random next time.

1549
01:34:10,860 --> 01:34:12,720
What's the V veck? thing?

1550
01:34:12,750 --> 01:34:17,220
Well, there's this guy that's
there. See, the CIO of the US v.

1551
01:34:17,220 --> 01:34:17,640
Vic.

1552
01:34:18,270 --> 01:34:19,260
What is the v vic?

1553
01:34:19,770 --> 01:34:22,770
Well, that's it. I think it'd be
better because I it's a whole

1554
01:34:22,770 --> 01:34:23,760
rant that.

1555
01:34:24,150 --> 01:34:26,310
Okay, you want to do that next
time, then perhaps?

1556
01:34:27,360 --> 01:34:32,340
Yeah, this is what's his name?
Vivek Kundra, who is this

1557
01:34:32,370 --> 01:34:34,440
Federal Chief Information
Officer. So

1558
01:34:34,440 --> 01:34:39,570
I saw that I saw that panel they
were doing on C span. That guy's

1559
01:34:39,570 --> 01:34:42,660
an idiot. He's a total dweeb.
He's like one of these Silicon

1560
01:34:42,660 --> 01:34:46,830
Valley jackasses in Dockers that
walks around and talks about one

1561
01:34:46,830 --> 01:34:50,460
day imagine we'll have a
holodeck and you can actually

1562
01:34:50,460 --> 01:34:54,450
just say computer make it look
like this. Yeah, did

1563
01:34:54,450 --> 01:34:55,710
he actually did that?

1564
01:34:56,009 --> 01:34:59,039
I saw that. I'm telling you.
We've been watching C span at

1565
01:34:59,039 --> 01:35:01,289
the same time again. John, why
don't you just come over here

1566
01:35:01,289 --> 01:35:08,039
and live with me? Do you have
that? I didn't hear you. I do.

1567
01:35:11,339 --> 01:35:13,019
Hey, Mimi, did you hear that?

1568
01:35:13,500 --> 01:35:14,910
She'll give me crap about it
later.

1569
01:35:14,939 --> 01:35:17,459
You don't you don't have that.
That extra clip, do you?

1570
01:35:18,090 --> 01:35:20,970
I don't have the I might have
the holodeck when I got too

1571
01:35:20,970 --> 01:35:23,460
close. But I got a few more
lined up so I'd be better if we

1572
01:35:23,460 --> 01:35:24,840
talked about him next week, get

1573
01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:27,570
the holiday clip because that's
just hilarious. And that guy's a

1574
01:35:27,570 --> 01:35:30,930
total dork. He's like an Indian.
Anthony Robbins

1575
01:35:30,990 --> 01:35:34,680
is terrible. And he says weird
stuff. In fact, his sentences

1576
01:35:34,680 --> 01:35:37,710
make no sense. And he just
rambles about

1577
01:35:38,130 --> 01:35:40,050
a bunch of buzzwords, and he
rambles and

1578
01:35:40,050 --> 01:35:42,300
rambles and then he winds up his
point and everyone's the

1579
01:35:42,300 --> 01:35:43,500
audience is like, Hmm,

1580
01:35:44,040 --> 01:35:47,070
at the end, his last final
point, there were two two real

1581
01:35:47,100 --> 01:35:49,590
geeks that were that were kind
of sitting there at the at the

1582
01:35:49,590 --> 01:35:52,050
books at the on the panel and
they were looking at each other

1583
01:35:52,050 --> 01:35:54,240
like, is this guy insane?

1584
01:35:55,020 --> 01:35:55,980
Answer. Yes,

1585
01:35:55,979 --> 01:36:00,419
he is completely insane. V vac.
That's right. I saw that exact

1586
01:36:00,419 --> 01:36:04,379
thing about broad the broadband
bill or something incredibly

1587
01:36:04,379 --> 01:36:07,319
important. We have broadband.
Yeah. All right. All right, bro.

1588
01:36:07,349 --> 01:36:12,809
Thanks. Cool job. Good gig. See
on the holodeck coming to you

1589
01:36:12,809 --> 01:36:17,159
from the minimum security
containment cell, which houses

1590
01:36:17,159 --> 01:36:20,249
the crackpot command centre in
San Francisco Gitmo nation West.

1591
01:36:20,249 --> 01:36:21,179
I'm Adam curry.

1592
01:36:22,020 --> 01:36:25,500
And from Silicon Valley North
then with a reminder to try to

1593
01:36:25,500 --> 01:36:29,400
get us some grants, go to
divorce.org/na and try to give

1594
01:36:29,400 --> 01:36:32,880
us some funding. We need it. And
also sign up for one of our

1595
01:36:32,880 --> 01:36:35,160
fabulous dinners that we're
going to do probably first in

1596
01:36:35,160 --> 01:36:36,840
Las Vegas. I'm John C. Dvorak.
We'll

1597
01:36:36,840 --> 01:36:39,780
talk to you again on Thursday
with another episode of no

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01:36:39,780 --> 01:36:40,320
agenda.