The modern Hitler is going to be a guy like Tony Blair. I mean,
that's just obviously it. Adam curry, John C. Dvorak.
It's October 10 2009. Time for your Gitmo nation media
assassination episode 138. This is no agenda proud to be a
citizen of the people who are bombing the moon and coming to
you from the minimum security containment cell and get my
nation West San Francisco, California where it's Fleet
Week. I'm Adam curry.
And from an area where the days are getting shorter, northern
Silicon Valley the sun's moving toward the Golden Gate Bridge.
I'm John C. Dvorak. Raglan Buzzkill. Yeah, it's
Saturday evening over here and get my nation West. But you
know, it's somewhere.
You know, I've been looking at some people that had been
advising people to listen to our show. And one of them said,
Well, you know, I had to talk him into getting past the corn
ball.
The opening. Yeah, I've heard that too. But it's, we're gonna
change the opening.
No. It'd be crazy. The opening is the best part of the show
half the time.
Exactly. Right. Now, there's a couple other gyms in there,
which we play from time to time.
I don't know what they want. I mean, I listen to a lot of these
podcasts. In fact, I sent our cohort dead vvO Andrew Gromit
off on a kind of homework exercise actually mission. Just
listen to a bunch of the skeptic style podcast, which is the kind
of podcast we do, generally speaking. And I listened to a
bunch of them and most of them I mean, some of that's, you know,
the information was fair, but the presentation was so
amateurish. Yeah, and unprofessional that you know, I,
I just can't understand why anybody would want people to go
there go that way.
Which by the way, has nothing to do with with the jingles
jingles, jingles do not necessarily make you
professional.
Yes, that's exactly.
Yeah. So, a couple things. First of all, I have a new setup,
which I just want to mention, which I will take a picture and
publish this I have a new microphone stand, which I'm
quite proud of.
Let me try to guess what it might be consistent. ever
guessed it, you'll never go okay. Well, that's a your
favorite standard was always a toilet paper roll, or a paper
towel, roll that piece of cardboard crap that's usually
found in the middle of it. Or maybe the roll itself with that
microphone hanging loosely from the clip that you clipped it on
there. So I'm sure it is just ridiculous.
So first, I should say that, you know, I've now discovered that
with this setup, and everything's run completely on
the Mac, there's no hardware gear, except for two MIDI
controllers, one that controls Ableton Live, which I use in the
live processing mode, and the other one, so that's really for
faders. And the other one is the jingle box, which is a whole
bunch of buttons, so I can fire that stuff off. And I use this
microphone, which not only is it handy, it's a wireless lav set,
transmitter receiver, not only is it extremely handy, because
you can take it with you anywhere. It's compact, but it
sounds good. I don't know if it's this setup, or for what
reason it is but it just it sounds better than any other
microphone I've ever used on this show. Would you not agree?
Well, I mean, I've only heard you, I don't know that you've
used another microphone.
In London in London, I used a couple different ones I've had
like $4,000 microphones and nothing sounds as good. It just
doesn't. So anyway, the mic stand I'm using because we
change the work table around and then. So now I have less space
in front of the laptop. So I can't actually put the paper
towel holder down in front of me, which is a bummer because I
still like that because of the damping qualities. But I went to
RadioShack and I got an alligator clip. So I have two
monitors I have I've the laptop in front of me and then a
secondary widescreen monitor above the laptop screen. And on
top of that I taped an alligator clip from RadioShack and a
telescopic antenna which is essentially just clipped into
the alligator clip and I can extend the the tubing the the
antenna right down to my mouth and on the end of that I've
clipped my little lav mic.
Sounds like one of those old roach clips from the 70s
it's the roach clip mic stand. Exactly. That's what it is.
That's where we used to get our roach clips from RadioShack you
got questions? We got roach clips.
So the thing Well, I don't know that you do sound You sound
pretty normalized with that mic. I mean, it doesn't sound like I
mean, everyone likes my PR 40 that I use up in Washington more
than they like this mic generally from my voice. I like
it too. But I listened to myself on that other mic and I kind of
know what I sound like. I Don't sound that doesn't sound like
that's not. I mean, it's it sounds terrific, but it doesn't
sound. It's not as it's not mean necessarily.
And yeah, it's true, it does add a bit of character to your
voice, which is, it's not bad job, a little bit of character.
I prefer sounding like myself as opposed to something like some,
you know, everybody sounded good.
Yeah, really? Everybody is Johnny in the morning. How you
doing? Yeah.
You sent it to me.
Yeah, I did. I said that to you. Because that sound effect I was
listening to. If there's a there's an archive of old radio
DJs. I can't remember the exact name of the URL, but you can
probably dig it up in the Bay Area. And they had a whole slew
of Dr. Don rose. Stuff that he was a famous disc jockey in the
Bay Area, when in the heyday of rock and, and he would, his bits
were he used that donkey sound all the time.
Yeah. heyday when it was kind of cool. Now it's like, okay, yeah.
All right. We have some important, excuse me business to
take care of right off the bat. John. There's been a little by
the way, by the way, before you start, before you start. Today's
shows executive producer is Mickey Kennedy, Mickey Kennedy.
Did we have to mention something else about Mickey Kennedy? Yeah,
when
we do the rundown of who gave us money. We'll mention it then.
But right now, just Mickey Kennedy
Kennedy, who donated the most money for this. This particular
episode. 138 have no agenda, and we really appreciate it. And the
whole plug comes at the end of the show. Right? Yeah, he's our
executive producer, Executive Producer, Mickey Kennedy.
Should look good on the resume by the way.
Yeah, it does actually look good. You know. 2009 executive
produced no agenda with Adam curry. And John C. Dvorak. will
vouch for him. Yeah. will write you a letter of recommendation.
Hell, you just send us the letter. We'll sign it. We
weren't you just write it yourself.
I mean, essentially, that's what an executive producer does
anyway, nothing. Yeah,
they just put up money. Yeah, that's how it works. Okay. So
there's been a little bit of dispute whether John has
actually read the book, Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand or not the
hottest selling book at the moment, actually are one of the
hottest selling books 300,000 copies this year, not bad for
book that's 52 years old. I think the one beating it out is
the Bible. And some people actually were saying, hey, you
know what, I really want to donate money to the show. But
I'll only do that if John reads Atlas Shrugged. And, John, you
have proclaimed that you read the book? Yes, I have been
enflames. But I'm not quite sure when I mean, this is over 1000
pages. And it's really small prints are really more like 1500
to maybe 1800 and regular book print. When did you have time to
do this?
I make time I don't sleep.
To put the issue to bed for once and for all. I am going to do a
pop quiz. And it will consist of three questions. If you get two
of the three questions, right. I will never again think that you
have not read
this book. Okay. And then after you're done, I'm going to ask
you some questions. That's fine. Yeah, that's fine.
Okay, well, you'll see that my questions are really normal
questions that you can answer. If you read the book. Are you
ready, John? Sure. Go okay. What item of jewelry. did Hank
Rearden give to Dagny? Taggart? Oops, wrong one, of course. Did
he give her Do I hear you actually turning pages of the
book?
No, I don't have the book here and I'm not gonna be able to
look it up. It's 1000 pages long.
It sounded like you were okay. So again, what item of jewelry
did Hank Rearden give to Dagny? Taggart?
You know, that's a good question, because I don't
remember but I think it was a ring. Down one,
what do you mean, you thought it was a ring? This is throughout
the entire book, John.
He gave it to her more than once. No, no,
this this piece of jewelry is referenced throughout the entire
book.
It was something made from that crazy steel of his I know that.
Okay, it was a bracelet. Right. And with this with Rearden
metal, yes. And
you would have gotten extra credit if you would have said he
originally gave it to his wife and then his wife. She didn't
want it. Not bad. Not bad. Okay, question number two. I'll give
you half a point for that. All right. Question number two. What
was Daphne's first job when she arrived at Gold's Gulch? I don't
know.
Oh, she got a job. Do you remember when she arrived there?
Yeah, this was yeah, this was, you know, this was I don't
remember that.
It's like essential.
When are you talking about Gulf Gulf Gulf the place in the
middle of nowhere
when she crosses her plane
and she's talking to you, you're not talking about when he she
was the house made for? Yes, yes.
Yes. Correct. Correct. That is That was her job.
I'll give you a job was getting through the crash?
No, her actual job. She had to make money, remember? Oh,
yeah, that's right. Yeah. This is during the period where
they're giving all this they all these lectures about you should
not serve other people and all that.
Tell me something honest. Is is Me Me. Skyping you? The answer's
no.
Nobody's giving me anything. Okay. You became his housemaid?
Yeah. For some unknown reason. Yes,
correct. Correct. Correct. Correct. Okay, here's the third
and final question. I'd say you're, you're batting about 80.
Right now. So that's, that's not bad. What was the evil sound
wave machine first tested on?
Well, it was called Project X. Correct. And it was tested on
the public, I believe, wasn't it? That would be
incorrect. What point no. Well, let me help you out here when
it's where they had the military demonstration, and they had all
the important people and politicians show up. What did
they test it on?
I thought it was they thought they tested it on the public.
No, no.
Man, did you like did you read the Cliff Notes?
No. Cliff Notes. Oh, that was a good idea.
They tested it on a farm with goats.
Alright, the goats.
Okay, well, you got another half point. That's too. You got
two points. Yes. You got two points out of three. I'll say.
I'll say that you probably did read the book.
Well, why don't you give me another question. Just as a
bonus, no, no,
you asked me some questions. Yeah, I'm
gonna ask you some questions. That's where I got my sheets
here. Hold on. Where's HR in most of these stories involving
the factories? Why it's HR, there's all this crazy stuff
going on. Factors in these companies when there's no human
resources, people in HR? Where's HR?
They didn't have HR departments in 1948 when the book was
written. Yeah,
right. Okay. Let me give you that actually. This one okay.
You know, at the very end of this crazy book when they're
torturing John Galt. Yes. Taggart cracks and realizes that
he's been wrong all these years. Right. Why did that happen?
He was already on his way to cracking when that when the big
gulf broadcast came. That's what convinced that's what convinced
point. Ready for this? Yeah. What was the route of the comet?
Oh, okay. Oh, boy, it was Colorado.
Was that the east to west? You know, there was the you know,
that San Francisco train station was torched or something by a
bunch of punks. Yeah. And so they had to reestablish the
route.
They went through the desert, didn't they?
Well, that might be true, because they apparently this
train crapped out in Arizona in the desert. So what was the
train going from San Francisco to New York City? Go through
Arizona
Dude, it was written by a Russian chick. Okay. Give her a
break.
What did Wyatt do?
Why it on a second. Why it
believes is the main character. Yeah,
I forget. What was he did he have the the day of the coal
mine? The
No, no, no, I don't remember. Dad's Danziger. Right? Why it
made shale oil? Oh, right. Your some magical process process,
right? Yeah, right. Yeah. Right. Or that? Yeah, I think I do.
Okay, here's the question. How does he set his wells on fire
when he's dealing with shale which can't catch on fire? And
there are no wells involved?
John, look, I could also ask you a whole bunch of aviation
questions that are, you know, the flying in this book is way
off the hook as well. But that's not the point.
And let's, let's move on, come on this is
you want to start asking questions back and forth. You
read the book.
I'm very proud of you.
What's Mr. Thompson's first name is the last one.
Mr. Thompson. Tell me who Thompson was again.
He was the delay You have the country he was the president Mr.
Trump, I don't remember. I don't remember. Well, they never give
his name, but I have to assume it's Fred as in.
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I just had to play that that was Parker R. Schneider, who
produced that I keep getting him mixed up with Sniderman. And I
guess he's going to pay for the 32nd AdBlock, if I corrected
that. So anything for the money, John, anything for the money?
That's one of our producers who gives us fantastic stuff to work
with. All right. I think the main thing we should talk about,
although not actually talk about it, but the reason behind it. Is
the Obama Nobel Peace Prize. Oh, yes. And then what? Well,
did you hear I thought they were just kidding.
And it's very, it's to me, it's painfully obvious. And I think
you'll agree with me, John, that this has been done as some
massive distraction. Something is going on. And I have my
thoughts about it, where they don't want the media to focus on
something. So like, Hmm, what can we do? I know, let's give
him a peace prize. That'll keep the fuckers busy for a little
while over here. Nothing to see. Look at that.
Well, let me say this. It worked. Wing talk guys have been
talking about nothing, but
not just white. Right. But but left as well. I mean, everyone's
on this every single newspaper. And you know, and politicians
are talking about it. So something big is going on?
Yeah, no, I have to agree with you that there's two things that
took place in the last week that are you know, we've noticed this
before, and we've tried to identify both the right wing and
the left wing, nothing to see here moments every week, when
every time we do this show. But the most recent things that have
been kind of like distractions. One is Obama winning the Nobel
Peace Prize. And by the way, he's giving the money to
charity, which I don't think Al Gore did, by the way. And the
other thing that he
started he started his cap and trade stock exchange
with him. He invested in cap with Kleiner Perkins
fund eight.
And the other thing that was semi distracting was this
pounding the moon with a missile. Yeah. Well,
I'd love to to at the same time, because there's nothing like the
president of a country who bombs the moon, who then gets the
Nobel Peace Prize, you know, it just seems like just something
kind of weird about that. Yeah, no, I did that. And you know
what, I watched the video. And I'll put a link to that to the
NASA video. You can probably find it yourself. It's all over
the net. Anyhow, but I was watching it live. I'm like,
okay. It was like, yeah, they switched to infrared. Okay, it
looks blue. I don't see any heat mapping going on. What the hell
happened there? Nothing. Guy didn't even know if they
actually shot anything.
At all been bull,
and totally. And the price of the mission was only $79
million. That doesn't seem like enough.
Well, it's just, uh, you know, there wasn't like, you don't
have to worry about protecting anybody just just like just like
a, essentially a shell.
What kind of explosives did they use?
I don't know. I didn't you know, I didn't even follow it that
much. I thought the whole thing was kind of silly. It all stems
from the fact that somehow you know, India sent up some sort of
a probe to the moon and discovered there's water there
and then claims that they found water and you know, I don't know
if they did or not, but it just seemed kind of like whoa, well,
they found water. We never found water. We've been wandering
around. Yeah, yeah. grew up during one upsmanship them by
pounding the moon with a missile.
It just makes no sense. And in particular, you know, this
really does help my theory that you know, that I where I
question if we've been on the moon. I mean, come on. How can
you not I mean, how can you miss the obvious? Hey, what's
your wandering around in the moon? And then there's water 30
feet under your feet? I mean, what are you gonna be doing
digging a hole? Well, then how
did this how did this satellite How did the Indians see it?
Well, I think they must have they don't have no I don't know
that was like a few months ago, and I don't remember how or how
they came up with this notion. They apparently found in some
area, and I guess someplace we didn't go and so we pounded this
area with the mistletoe to either prove or disprove that
the Indians found stuff I don't know. think the whole thing's a
waste of time. The one thing is oh, well just so one day we can
go to the moon if there's water there, then we know we can live
there and all this other nonsense and it's like we're not
going to the moon. We're not putting a colony on the moon
anytime soon.
So apparently it was a two ton kinetic weapon that was supposed
to create a five mile wide crater. Now I'm sorry, but what
they don't have zoom lenses now. If you saw nothing you saw
outside now
what what was it in? Was it a nuke?
A kinetic weapon? I'm not quite sure. What does that mean? I
don't know. I'm just reading from the from the from the
mainstream media publication? I don't know they
did they go well, wait a minute, hold on a second stop, stop the
presses. Let's
google kinetic.
They use the word kinetic weapon or what it was a kinetic weapon.
And they don't explain it when for the last 40 years when I was
writing columns and all these newspapers, and you said the
word hard disk, they their editors would come back and say,
Can you explain what a hard disk is? Because nobody knows what
they mean what that means. That's all But meanwhile, they
just throw kinetic weapon out there. Whatever it is. Are you
kidding me?
Sorry. I'm sorry.
You could play in the pet peeve thing at work.
I was thinking about it. For X
series, I mean, it's always gold me from day one when I was
writing for the newspaper. Well, hard disk. What's a hard disk?
What is a hard disk
disk? Spinning around with data on it.
I love the the examiner. The title on the title of their
report. NASA Moon bombing violates space law and may cause
clonk conflict with lunar extraterrestrials and UFOs
civilizations. No shit. And they complain about Iran. I mean,
come on, get real. Well, we well, apparently there is a
United Nations Outer Space Treaty. And here it is
resolution adopted adopted by the General Assembly treaty on
Principles Governing the Activities of States and the
Exploration and Use of outer space, including the moon and
other celestial bodies. And you're not allowed to bomb it.
It's like it's like a no bombing
of the moon.
No bombing allowed. This was Yeah,
but we get bomber rack. Does that make sense to you?
No, of course not. I'm gonna put this in the links. That's a
pretty good one someone just sent that to me. It really is a
General Assembly resolutions, the General Assembly had to
consider the report of the Committee on the Peaceful Uses
of Outer Space, outer space covering its work during 1966.
In particular, the work accomplished by the legal
subcommittee, man, they got a whole thing about space here.
You know, can't be too far ahead of the curve.
This is from a while ago, this is very the Exploration and Use
of outer space, including the moon and other celestial bodies
shall be carried out for the benefit and the interests of all
countries, irrespective of their degree of economic or scientific
development and shall be the province of all mankind. Hmm. I
gotta read through this thing is pretty big. This whole UN
resolution. I like it. Well, then we violated it.
Yeah, we did. Apparently Obama violate it. And then the next
thing you know, he's got a Nobel Peace Prize. Each prize. Yeah,
makes no sense.
There's a bunch of UFOs flying around dudes going, Hey, man, I
Obama Dude, that's so good. blowing shit up.
So that we got the results back from this bombing yet?
Well, they found nothing. Although the results that I'm
reading are well, it could it could be very exciting. Once we
get all the data. It's being stored on a hard disk,
apparently, and have to wait until it's flown back. It's
bull.
Well, it seems like your might you may be right here. These are
two major distractions. And I mean, the fact that I mean, but
who's in on the on the game. I mean, we did the distraction
with the moon bombing ourselves, but the, you know, the Nobel
Peace Prize? Well, by the way that people should know that
this is
exactly what I wanted you to explain because people don't
understand what you're about to talk about.
The Nobel Peace Prize, the Nobel Prizes were set up by Alfred
Nobel. And there's two sets of them and one set is delivered
with a Swedish in Sweden with Swedish judge or judges that are
chosen within very narrow disciplines to give awards for
scientific progress. But no bell is set up a second group and
they're in Norway. They're not in Sweden. They're in Norway,
Oslo. And they're picked by the government the government of
Norway that house or the assembly or whatever they call
it picks five people to choose the winner of the Nobel Peace
Prize and and then the criteria is essentially someone who
promotes peace. Some either by you know, throwing away their
weapons or by bombing the moon talking a big game usually
something like that whatever they do somehow it caused I
don't know how Al Gore got it because I don't know what global
warming and peace have to do with each other but what he got
when anyway, the point is is that by promoting peace and and
that's an award comes out in Norway it's a separate
ceremonies got nothing to do with the Swedish thing there is
one joint website that covers both these things. But
essentially, when you start really breaking it down, you
find they're separate. But listening, all these talk radio
guys are going on and about the bunch of jerk offs that the
Swedes are giving you. A warning, I'm thinking the Swedes
have got nothing to do with it.
So how did that brand gets so split up? I mean, how does that
work? What went wrong? Because clearly there's something there.
Is there actually a peace prize from the original Swedish Nobel
Foundation?
Not that I know of, but the money comes from the same guy. I
mean, he set it up as a kind of a combination thing. He just be
just, you know, how Norway get involved? When it was originally
established? As far as I know, it was Norway was the was
designated as the country that would would do the award. I
think that they came together later. I don't know. I don't
know what the exact history is from the inception, which was
around the turn of the century. And Nobel Of course, Alfred
Nobel is the guy who invented dynamite for people who out
there don't know. Now make sense, was like concerned after
World War Two, or I guess it was conservative beginning I don't
know when he invented dynamite. But do you immediately saw the
first thing people did whether it was, hey, this is cool, we
can blow up somebody's building. And so he felt guilty. I think,
you know that, you know, the Dynamite was being used for
nefarious purposes instead of mining. And so that's where I
created a Nobel Peace Prize. But it's got nothing to do with the
other one. Let's
listen to the actual award. I have an on video Nobel committee
has decided that the Nobel Peace Prize for 2009 is to be awarded
to President Barack Obama for his extra ordinary efforts to
strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation
between peoples
by bombing the moon.
You know, the funny thing is, is that the research indicates that
this award was he was nominated for this award. 12 days after he
became president, he really hasn't done anything except talk
a big game. Right. So you know, but he got the award. I mean, as
far as I'm concerned, a million bucks into Americans America's
coffers. Although it'd be better for us in euros. And I guess it
wasn't your I think it's 800,000 euros. Yeah, so it's something
like anyway. So I mean, I don't begrudge the guy for winning the
award. What difference does it make? I can't see getting all
worked up about it.
Well, that's what that is. But that's the entire point. It's
like, who gives a crap? While on Tuesday, there's going to be a
secret vote about the health care bill, which will not be
published online for anyone to comment on it. That's what's
going on here. John, there's just no two ways about it.
I just don't think the Norwegians care about our health
care bill.
No, they don't. But they do care about doing what we tell them to
do.
Well, you know, you could make that assertion.
It's a possibility, but hereby made up. When he's
pretty it is pretty weird. Somebody pointed out, there was
one of these crazy radio guys that went on with all the people
that didn't get the Nobel Prize. And he went on with the fact
that Mahatma Gandhi for an example, was nominated four
times and never won.
By the way, Norway is one of the few countries that does not use
the euro. So they're probably he's probably getting it in
kronor.
Right. That's right. Norway is not in the EU, Norway and and
Switzerland are the two countries that's told everyone
to stuff it. And for good reason. Norway doesn't need to
be involved there. They're just they're essentially pumping
dollar herbs pumping money out of the North Sea by the ton. And
they are they're rich. It's a very rich country in
Switzerland.
The day who gives a crap, who cares? Who cares? I just can't
care. About what about the Nobel Peace Prize? This this is what
boggles the mind. I pick up the Financial Times the weekend
edition, front page right there kaboom. Well, actually, Mickey
pointed out to me because I, I laid this this assertion on her.
And she said Oh, right. So you know, they do this to get
everyone talking, and and to distract the conversation about
the real stuff. And right down below the fold to the right of
the the front page story, which is the even the Financial Times
is saying, oh, you know, did he really deserve this award?
There's a little story on the front page, though, that says
that France has arrested a researcher at the European
Organization for Nuclear Research that CERN at the Large
Hadron Collider due to links with al Qaeda.
Yeah, so that story,
like, Yeah, that might be the cover of right there.
I don't think so. I think it's covering up something else
that's probably not on their front page at all or even
mention And
Well, there you go. Healthcare not mentioned on the front page
and Tuesday is this secret vote John?
What secret vote? Oh, wait, how did you find out about if it's a
secret?
Well, I'm not sitting out the vote, the fact that they're
doing it is not a secret. That's why we have to have all this
moon bombing and stuff. So we don't talk about it. But the
bill, which I don't even think has a number yet. Here's what
Here's what one of our producers sent to us. It was very
interesting to me. Because this is this is all being worked out
by the Finance Committee. Here we go. The vote is a committee
vote, not a vote of the Senate are a final conference bill. So
it's going to be put into that shell. Because then the Senate
can't initiate spending bills, and the house apparently isn't
ready for it. It's it's kind of a way around the constitutional
requirements somehow. And by the way, what is the what is the
Senate Finance Committee doing? With health care? I don't get
it.
They have the Finance Committee, which because it's gonna if it's
going to involve taxpayer money, or it's going to cost anything.
The finance committees have to give it the the Okay.
Well, we know it's not going to cost any money.
No, it's going to cost money, but it might be it's going to
have some impact, either negative or positive. All all
bills do. So the Finance Committee, you know, how
significant the only thing is that finance committee doesn't
deal with is when the when one of these guys comes up and says,
I'd like to declare that January is the month? Yes, some Yeah,
right. Some bogus, you know,
let's hear what our President said in his weekly radio address
on YouTube.
The historic movement to bring real meaningful health insurance
listen
very carefully to the woods, John, listen to what he's saying
for him to the American people
gathered momentum this week, as we approach the final days of
this debate. Having worked on this issue, for the better part
of a year, the Senate Finance Committee is finishing
deliberations on their version of a health. So
their version, right insurance we're way,
way, way better part of the year. He said better part of a
year. That's what he said. Yeah, was it? Well, I guess he's
talking about the nine months.
That's a better part of the year. Let's listen, let's listen
to more
on this issue. For the better part of a year, the Senate
Finance Committee is finished, because
the worst part is still ahead. That's what that really means.
deliberations on their version of a health insurance reform
bill that will soon be merged with other reform bills produced
by other congressional committees.
There you go. So it's going to be merge. Yeah, that's what they
always do. But he didn't say into a health care bill. That's
the tarp bill that's going to be merged into play. We play that.
Listen very carefully. You gotta listen to the words, man.
They're so important as
of this debate. Having worked on this issue for the better part
of a year, the Senate Finance Committee is finishing
deliberations on their version of a health insurance reform
bill that will soon be merged with other reform bills produced
by other congressional does say reform bills, I'm sorry,
committees. After evaluating the finance committee's bill, the
Congressional Budget Office, an office that provides
independent, nonpartisan analysis concluded that the
legislation would make coverage affordable for millions of
Americans who don't have it today. It will bring greater
security to Americans who have coverage with new insurance
protections. And by attacking waste and fraud within the
system, it will slow the growth in health care costs without
adding a dime to our deficits.
You know what that sounds a lot like, John. It sounds like
jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. I'm wondering
whether this is even true. He said that the budget office
which looks at these things, he claims that they said that it
will make healthcare affordable?
No, I don't think they said that. I think they said that
over a year said they said oh yeah. Oh, yeah. No, I couldn't
find no evidence of that what the CBO has
just a lie, then.
Don't call him a liar. You racist.
Let's listen fraud within the system. It will slow the growth
in healthcare costs without adding a dime to our deficits.
This is another milestone on what's been a long hard road
towards health insurance reform. In recent months, we've heard
every side of every argument from both sides of the aisle
notice it's now health insurance reform and not healthcare
reform. It's in the nuance that I find the interesting things
and rightly so.
Health insurance reform is a complex and critical issue that
deserves a vigorous national debate.
I'm sorry, he's literally changing it.
Yeah, no. Health insurance reform is not what we were
supposed to be talking about.
It's health care reform, which is basically getting the farm
farm in health care reform doesn't make that doesn't
there's no equal sign between those two phrases.
Nope. No, no. But it's on the prompter. So let's listen to it
again.
And we've had one, the approach that is emerging includes the
best ideas from Republicans and Democrats and people across the
political spectrum. In fact, what's remarkable is not that
we've had a spirited debate about health insurance reform,
but the unprecedented consensus that has come together behind
it. This consensus encompasses everyone from doctors and
nurses.
Did you see I forgot to mention this on Thursday show, and I do
have the link, although I didn't put it in the show notes. I put
it in for this week. They had a rose garden conference with
like, 50 doctors, you know, one from each state. And, you know,
when you get invited to the White House, I've had one invite
couldn't go unfortunately, you know, you dress up, right? You
look nice. And you're like, Yeah, I'm dude, I'm gonna go sit
in the Rose Garden and the President is going to speak and
so all these doctors were sitting there and they it must
have been Axelrod are someone who said, hey, you know, you
guys don't look like doctors. And they literally handed out
white lab coats and they all had to wear like, like white lab
coats for the for the photo op.
Yeah. And there's something fishy about these doctors all
part of sub one cliques, one organization, that is a very
left wing leaning group. I mean, this whole thing was a photo it
was it was a bunch of stages. I mean, it was ridiculous. By the
way, somebody just reported to me that they say the stream is
down. Oh, really?
No, it seems to be working here. Okay, well, let me just double
check. What's worse worth a quick check? No, no, that's
connected. That must be a local thing. Okay. It's probably at&t
fucking with us. A little bit more of the President. It's kind
of interesting, isn't it? When you
find some other changes that he says that all of a sudden we've
changed from healthcare to health insurance,
health insurance reform, it's something
new hospitals and drug manufacturers. And earlier this
week, Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger of California and
New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg came out in support of
reform. Yeah, this
this was a big win. This was and of course, they said the
Schwarzenegger was pretty easy peasy. Hey, schwarzsee. Baby.
You already got like 30 billion in stimulus coming. Do you want
to go down as the governor that was there when the state failed?
Or do you want some more help? I mean, that was an easy one. That
was a shoo in. And Bloomberg,
New York. I mean, they could probably do the same thing and
get your will California we have our three systems in place
already. But the seams Yeah, you could. Yeah, yeah. New York's
gonna be a bankrupt state. You with me or against me?
If you're Oh, how
hard is it decision? Is it oh, he's on our side. Yeah.
It's like Ring ring. Hello. Hey, it's rom here. I got an offer
you can't refuse. That was
easy. joining two former Republican Senate Majority
Leader's Bob Dole. And Dr. Bill Frist, himself, a cardiac
surgeon, Dr. Louis Sullivan, Secretary of Health and Human
Services under President George HW Bush supports reform.
I like I like her the nuance there. Look, even Bush's guys
like it even pushes guys,
as does Republican Tommy Thompson, a former Wisconsin
governor and Secretary of Health and Human Services under
President George W. Bush. See Bush's guys love it. These
distinguished leaders understand that health insurance reform
isn't a Democratic issue or should ensure it's
again Yeah, because it's they've changed the job. It's a bait and
switch right there. A bada boom, it's a shell game,
help bait and switch and nobody's picked? I haven't heard
this speech. But nobody's picked up on this in the media. You're
telling me?
Yep. Because more important is to talk about the Nobel Peace
Prize. Oh, yeah. And that's the switch baby. That's the switch.
While we weren't looking, they switched it from health care
reform to health insurance reform. That's the switch
covered up by a moon bombing and a Nobel Peace Prize
American issue that demands a solution. Still, there's some in
Washington today who seemed determined to play the same old
partisan politics, you know, the racist, working to score
political points, even if it means burdening this country
with an unsustainable status quo. The status quo of rising
healthcare costs that are crushing our families, our
businesses and our government, a status quo of diminishing
coverage that's denying millions of hardworking Americans
insurance they need Yeah, a status quo that gives big
insurance companies the power to make arbitrary decisions about
your health care. See, it's all about insurance as the status
quo I reject. And that's the status quo. The American people
reject the distinguished former congressional leaders who urged
us to act on health insurance almost
over insurance reform and again, you saying it again, dork moment
at
hand, and reminded us that this moment will not soon come again.
They call on members of both parties to seize this
opportunity to finally confront a problem that has plagued us
for far too long. That is what we are called to do at This
moment, that is the spirit of national purpose.
This is bogus. I mean, all we have to do is have a Insurance
Commissioner.
Politics problem. Yep. Now's the time to come together as
Americans. Now's the time to meet our responsibilities to
ourselves and to our children, and secure a better, healthier
future bringing the kids to that future is within our grasp. Yes.
So let's go finish the Donita.
Yay. At the end of that one, I'm going to send you that clip.
Yay.
Well, part so I do have some details on what the Senate
Finance Committee has been working on. This is the Maximo
you know, I don't see why dude. Let's face it. This is the story
is this is that no, that what else we have? I mean, this is
like, you've bummed me out with this.
Let me just tell you one thing that will really bummed me out.
There will be penalties. I've been bumped out the buzzkill
Dude, that's huge. There will be if you have a gun, if you own a
gun, then there will be penalties on you. For what?
Okay, wait. Let me tell you before you lay into a dangerous
activities. Here, coverage prescribed by the administration
will to control costs exclude coverage for what it regards as
excessively dangerous activities such as hunting? What yes, if
you keep a firearm in the household for hunting, self
defense or killing people that will be regarded as excessively
dangerous activity and coverage may be excluded. Or
more people get injured playing basketball.
More people get injured in the bathroom. But if you have a gun
in the home, no service for you. Interesting, isn't it?
Oh, that's a total scam. Where'd you get that one? That's a good
one. I gave you a 10 That's your debt your we need a little
jingle for your education.
When I really when I really got one. Well, let's just put it
this way. We don't pull any punches. In fact, we do quite
the opposite. Our formula is this. We go out. We get people
in the mouth. Whenever I do
something good. I get to play that one. It's the drums that
make that work.
It really is. It's crazy. It's crazy.
That is totally nuts. That's amazing. Now that so I suppose
that the you know while the right wingers on their talk
shows are going
berserk over the Nobel Peace Prize. Peace Prize.
They kind of ignore this because that's beautiful.
Yeah. Anyway right now it's time to reveal something that I'm
sure you're all over. John. I haven't checked your blog
devora.org/blog See if you've posted this but missing a for
beauty queen missing a poor world has given up her crown
already. Yes, she's given up her crown after it has emerged. She
had stolen credit cards to go on a shopping spree for lingerie.
Hmm, well, let me get this straight. Here's not dropped
dead knockout chick from Singapore. Yeah. Who could
probably have any guy she wanted? Yeah. And she's got
stolen credit cards to buy lingerie when when she could
probably get all the lingerie she ever wanted in the world if
she just put up a website. Yeah. Organizing sense.
Organizers of the CRM world marketing pageant said she had
resigned Tuesday of her own accord. She will no longer
represent Singapore at the Miss World Finals to be held in South
Africa in December. It's a travesty.
What's in this pre did the last one is this a new old story?
Candidate on that story September 30. She bought when
they just did was in South Africa when they can't keep
track of all
South Africa when
Well, I thought somebody Yeah, maybe. Maybe that's what it
sounds bogus. bogus. I call bogus.
Here's I'll tell you what's really bogus. So of course, a
horribly a 14 year old girl died after receiving the Sarah Vic's
HPV cervical cancer vaccination. And within like 15 minutes she
she went into coma and die.
It's just the same story that you just ran two weeks ago, the
girl in England. This is about the
girl in England and Of course you know they had this they
stopped vaccinations and like oh no this this this can go on this
is dangerous but you know that can happen because look at all
the expensive marketing materials have already bought we
have to continue with the with the program because we can't
just stop it a UK. So the pathologist has confirmed today
at the opening of the inquest into the death of Natalie
Morton. She died from a large malignant tumor of unknown
origin in the heart and lungs. unknown origin
she had a big tumor in her heart and lungs. Yeah,
and that and that's why she died after she received the vaccine.
So in other words, what you're saying or what they're saying,
is that just a coincidence.
Oh, crap. I'm not fast enough on the accidents? I think not.
Yeah, exactly. And so now of course, the program has been
reinstituted reinstated. Hey, keep on rockin people
so what other depressing news do you have for us on this lovely
Saturday night?
Well, we it to down one to go or one down one more to go actually
Polish president Lech Kaczynski signed the and ratified the
Lisbon Treaty. So all we need now is for the Czech guy to sign
up and Tony Blair can become president of Euro the world.
Well, the Czech guy is ready to ready to, to to fold because he
just says there's only one thing he wants. And apparently, you
know, it's been done before. I think England and a few other
people, there's these little provisos they put into the
constitution that's specific to certain countries. And the one
for the Czech Republic is that they can't be found liable based
on EU law for all the Germans that they rousted, after World
War Two from the country, which they're fearful that would
become sort of a kind of a financial issue with them.
Wow. Yeah. Well, this, this island had a whole bunch of
things in there, which I think included a lot of tax. Ireland,
of course, is the country that so far has received the most
money from the EU, and is a it's a tax haven. It's a beautiful
place for manufacturing. Apple has a huge factory there.
I think a lot, but there's a couple of stories that reveal
that. As good as Ireland was for all this, many of the same
companies picked up, you know, pull up their tents and went to
Poland, because it was even cheaper there.
Well, it was cheaper. But there's too many. There's a lot
of Polish there. can just, I can just hear comic strip blogger
writing and hate. As we speak. I couldn't resist this Polish
people.
Your shout out by Tim Curry, you are American shut up about you.
You're no nothing.
Yeah, so it'll be interesting. And, you know, we've kind of
drifted away from the whole debate, but of course two years
ago, and remember, it was the Dutch and the French who
originally said no. And then well, that wasn't good enough.
So we just won't let's just go have them vote again, but not
actually have the people in a referendum. But let's just have
the representatives vote. And then of course, it was passed
and ratified. Same in same in France. And then the Irish said
no. And then it was like, well, let's just have a do over. And
then you know, of course, a huge money came out and everyone was
probably, you know, they got no job. There's all kinds of crap
going on. So no one's really paying attention. And maybe they
used, you know, rigged voting machines. But it's if you when
you read the Lisbon Treaty, which is essentially the
European Constitution pulled apart in all kinds of legalese.
And I did take the time to read through this. It References
Footnotes, and these footnotes are critically important because
they tell you what the actual laws will be. And just one of
them is about the death penalty. So a big thing is no one in
Europe wants a death penalty. So according to the Lisbon Treaty,
there's no death penalty. And last point to footnote which you
have to go download from some other website, unless there is a
situation of unrest.
What does that mean? Is it defined no forced arrest? No
fire snap?
That's the whole point. Of course it isn't. That will be
defined by Tony Blair up we have unrest and then all of a sudden
the death penalty is going to be okay. It's all kinds of little
gotchas like this. If you have a you can be incarcerated if
you're an alcoholic or a drug addict, or if you have a
communicable disease. You know, like, I don't know, swine flu.
There's all these little things in there. I mean, that's going
to be the true Gitmo state where the minute the check dude folds.
It's all over and of course, he's going to fold he has no
choice in the matter. Oh, yeah, no choice. And they'd like to do
it by Well, I guess, you know, the Tony Blair thing is supposed
to happen pretty soon if they can, if they can get the Czech
Republic to ratify then Tony Blair could be in very quickly
and it's going to come down because the way the voting
system works basically Germany and France determine everything.
So it'll be in there. It'll be Angela Merkel, who will have to
push the button and she's gonna say yes. That's obvious. Tony
Blair
Yeah, that's pretty weird. You know, who wouldn't? I mean, the
modern Hitler's gonna be a guy like Tony Blair. I mean, that's
just obviously it.
Goddamn. Let me just let me just mark that that was beautiful
John. The modern Hitler is going to be someone like Tony Blair
kind of being on love that great statement. John C. Dvorak, New
York Times. Since we get so much flak for not covering Europe,
there does seem to be a lot of Gitmo nation East News coming
our way. Namely cruce our friend the anti competition, or
competition Commissioner, I guess we should say of the
camp anti competition. anti American.
Yeah, she's going after Google and IBM now.
Well, everybody's going after IBM. But the thing about the IBM
Yeah, it started here. And so she can't let us actually do
anything that would but the IBM thing seems to be like another
one of these don't look here deals is this it's a total scam.
What are they going after? Right? They're going after IBM
for abusing its its market position to sell mainframes. So
mainframes against who who else sells mainframes? Yeah, nobody
any see I mean, I don't even know makes him any more. I think
you're right. It's like ridiculous. And then of course,
Google, you know, is going to be the target just a never ending
target because of because the fact that nobody can make a
search engine is good. And I don't know the whole thing is
crazy.
Well, she's gonna start finding them big money. That's how you
siphon off money. Get it into the and what happens to that
money when you get a billion dollars from Microsoft? Where
does it go? Who didn't goes
into the miter and coffers for their pedophile thing?
John, oh, my god, I'm so proud of you. You're doing so well,
because I saw that stories and we're gonna bring this one out.
Basic Theory that the entire Europe is a bunch of pedophiles.
Yeah,
yeah. The top of the politicians. Yeah, that is
pretty much it. What was the mid Ron story? Do you have it there
by any chance? Yeah. Hello,
John. Sorry. Somebody rang the phone.
Do you have the meter on story? Do you have a something
I don't have. It was Mitterrand's, one of his cousins
or I forgot who it was. He's like one of the ministers in
France. Mitterrand's a big family. It's like one of the
most powerful families in Europe. And I guess he was
busted for some somewhat low he went to on a one of those sex
tours to the Philippines. And he says no new. He didn't go on a
sex tour. It was all it was all young adults. You know, there's
all legal and so I don't know what the details are, but it
seems pretty sketchy. Yeah, no, but he was right. He was I read
it up there you go. There's the upper crust of Europe. You know,
it's true man. That's and you know, the Fortis bank this the
lipids, brothers, they're all fucking pedophiles. And there's
so much evidence. There's there's so much evidence they've
video of these guys in parks with picking out boys, you know,
and, and like they're, you know, they're assigned drivers suicide
themselves, you know, it's crazy, man. It's just crazy.
Yeah, this isn't covered much by the New York Times. Fact I'm
actually stunned that this thing was even mentioned anywhere. And
of course, he's you know, denying everything. Of course. I
was in it when I was in cognac some time and about 20 years
ago. I was roaming around the cellars of Hennessey's there
parody. Sellersville is 100 year old barrels filled with cold
cognac. And on every one of the barrels. There's the name of the
grower that distilled it or had it and there was Mitterrand, I
guess Demeter and family has a huge holding in the cognac area
where they where they grow the Guney Blanc and distill it into
a cognac used by the best cognac blenders. Okay, sorry, just to
mention, so
bully on them. They can't be all bad. All right, just like Kim
Jong Il has a nice Cabernet selection. I mean,
yes, I know. And I would just love to sit down and sample some
the Latour and discuss it with him. Let's see, but somebody who
could probably make that happen, has done nothing in that regard.
Seeing him in November. Don't worry, I'm working on it seeing
I'm seeing uncle Don in November.
Yeah. And I can see how this meeting is going to and you're
gonna walk away he's gonna slap yourself in the lap. I forgot to
mention this that
John, I'm not going to forget I'm going to get the am
absolutely going to say listen, Uncle Don, I know you're real
busy. We're like keeping the Koreans from bombing us and
shit. But could you think you could hook up my friend for a
little Cabernet tasting?
Yeah, yeah, right. marginalize the idea trivialize and make fun
of me.
He might actually say, You know what? That's interesting. Bill's
going over to get some more note eating journalists. Who knows?
No, no teaching shortlist
radar man from the Netherlands wrote in and said, Hey, I've
heard you guys mentioning about the Dutch wanting their bicycles
back from the Germans who took them in World War Two. I just
want you to know I know where they took them. Well, he knows
what the bikes are.
Dip. Likes are still there. He
says look, back in the early 70s. While in the Air Force, I
was a member of a radar installation team that went to
Tempelhof Air Force Base in Berlin to set up a new ATC radar
system. If you've been to Berlin, you know, Tempelhof is
huge, which is true it is it's amazing one mile long from end
to end. absolutely the most fascinating building I've ever
been in. I think that just close that actually. Which makes sense
when I read this story. So to run new cables for the radar, we
drilled through a wall with a big concrete drill we punched
through but the guys on the other side said they couldn't
see the drill bit coming out. After some investigation. We
found out the prints were wrong. There was a huge room completely
walled off that was filled with hundreds of bikes with those big
baskets.
That's a Dutch bike. Yeah.
The guess is that in World War Two Tempelhof was under
construction repairs while I was being bombed the wrong room got
sealed up by mistake. And last 10 years later, he says he went
back to Tempelhof several times discovered the bikes had been
liberated, and refurbished by the base for use by Air Force
personnel. Everyone from base admin troops to base plumbers
and electricians use them to get around. So if anyone wants to
know where the where your bike is, it's in Berlin. Hmm.
Well, that's it put it to good use. Yeah,
that's good information.
Yeah. I mean, one of the many untold stories we have here for
you on no agenda. And
you know, what we, we work hard at collecting them. We work hard
to disseminate this, this is actually something you could put
on the History Channel. That story about those bikes. If we
had some pictures or video, you could do a half hour show on
that easy,
yo, da, and it'd be just as fascinating as anything else on
the Hidden History Channel. It HD. So I'm looking at the
History Channel website, because they have a phony baloney thing
about Thanksgiving because one of my one of my one of our
producers mentioned that, that we should at least say that this
weekend is Thanksgiving weekend in Canada. And of course, the
coincidence is that their Thanksgiving falls exactly on
the Monday that we have Columbus Day. So I guess the banks don't
have to you know, so there's no problem with somebody.
I think, you know, many people think that this is going to be
the big bank weekend where shit goes wrong. You know, this
Columbus Day weekend, though. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Because
that's what I was waiting to posit. Todo no crap. Just made a
deposit. No, this is this is the theory because that's kind of
how it went in. In the Great Depression is they had a bank
holiday weekend and boom, you know, of course, they didn't
have ATMs then But then all the banks just never reopened on
that Tuesday. Oh, Shaw. I'm just saying
this there's no evidence that anything's going on. Oh, yeah.
And you'll be right and we can talk about it on Thursday.
Oh, there's nothing going on. Yeah, that's right. There's
nothing going on whatsoever. Nothing to see here.
The markets going up. So here's an interesting story that did
came up missing sidekick dated somebody put put this on
Twitter. So I thought I'd mentioned it and I'm probably
not going to be doing twit this week. And because Leo is in
Dubai buying gold. Well,
no, no, we know what he's really doing in Dubai. We know all
about Dubai. Don't worry, John. We know what's happening in the
underground of Dubai.
Okay, so somebody sent us sensing the cloud computing just
shows you the dangers of cloud computing it looks like the T
Mobile system running if you have one of those sidekick
danger things that keep the keeps all the data on some
server someplace and they said the servers went down lost all
your names and addresses all your data which is you know this
does kind of thing does happen but they've said that they may
never get their data back. I love that this is a Microsoft
subsidiary danger by the way so server error me just read this
it says that because of a server error it danger a Microsoft
subsidiary They bought them. The fact that users might not get
their data back at all. Do these people know what backing up is?
Yeah, no, I think the thumb drive was full. Right? They ran
out of thumb drives. It's unbelievable.
So that means that so I guess they have a cloud servers that
tracks all of your contacts. It's not stored locally on your
on your phone or on your device.
That's what it sounds like. I mean, I don't use the this
system. But
apparently, where's the tech press on that?
It's all over the place to take presses jumping all over it. So
it's not like it's being covered, believe me.
You want to hear Chris Rock about Roman Polanski? Yeah, go
for it. Because this was on the Jay Leno Show, which I think as
lost 70% of his initial audience. Oh, yeah. For sure.
That's a failure. Right. I mean, can we just consider this to be
dead? Yeah, you know, the night this is kind of funny. The night
that Leno came out, after you know, he first he made the
admission about his affair, or in the blackmail, that it was
either that night or that for the following Monday. His
ratings on the Late Night Show which starts at 1130 We're a
higher than London, any show on NBC the entire day,
to their trouble. I mean, that what's going to happen that they
can't afford? Where are the affiliates and all this? Aren't
the affiliates affiliates?
Teamed up? They're gonna they're already starting to decide to
bump Lin on run old reruns.
Oh my gosh. Oh, wow. Well, then I was gonna retire a rich man.
Now here we retire rich man. And NBC is going to show what a
bunch of dummies they are. Like somebody was right. I think it
was in variety, or one of the magazines somebody said, The
problem that they have right now is that they never even
considered the fact that this this stupid experiment was gonna
fail. And so there's no plan B.
Let's listen to Chris Rock about Roman Polanski pretty funny. And
of course, it all fits right in perfectly with your theory that
he has a new movie coming out. They're looking for
distribution, and this is great promotion. Although Chris Rock
clearly has something to say about that. Hold on a second.
This coming from Hulu Kulu. Of course I won't play Hulu, Hulu
inside.
Yeah, I'm playing from Hulu.
Yeah, of course. We're live baby. We don't
know man. Lansky thing got me man. Yeah, what the hell? What
is your I don't people under Roman Polanski because he made
some good movies. I don't get is my thing make good movies? 30
years ago? Even Johnnie Cochran don't have the nerve to go. Will
Did you see Audrey play against New England? As far as
I know I've seen some hot 16 year olds that look at 17 and
look at 13 is 13. But nobody gets away with having sex with a
13 year old only person that could have sex with a 13 year
old is that pilot Scully. He can do it. Know that the land and
the plane and the water but don't let that happen again.
Yeah, I mean, come on. Rape. It's ripe. Grapes. Number two.
Okay, it's murder. Right then. Right. Right. Like, like the
United States, we want to capture Osama bin Laden and
murder him.
Otherwise pretty funny. Yeah, he's actually quite funny.
If you're in the US, you could watch that from the from the
link in the show notes at no gender show.com.
If you're out of the US find a proxy and
proxy server. Exactly. That's the way to go. The one other
thing I just wanted. I just wanted to give you props because
now I'm seeing it everywhere. And I know it was mentioned a
long time ago will this be our Vietnam but you are so right,
John, this the war in Afghanistan, which again, this
may also be part of what the moon bombing and the peace prize
is all about to cover up new new troops or I still don't quite
understand how 21,000 extra troops are deployed without
Congress actually approve approving it, you know, the
although we did just, you know, pass a bill for another almost
700 $700 billion for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. But now
I'm seeing cartoons I'm seeing stories pop up about this being
the Vietnam of our era.
And it's it's so obvious.
What was the conversation? What I mean? Okay, let's see, there's
one of our fractals.
Oh, boy, yes, indeed. But the part of the fractal that's
missing is the anti war movement. You know, even Code
Pink Code Pink, are now endorsing Barack Obama's
Afghanistan policy.
The anti war movement during the Vietnam War was the same way at
the beginning. It would, there was no anti war movement until
late in the game.
Oh, really. But then, was it primarily students or who was
the main leader
were students that were gonna get drafted, and they didn't
like the idea. And so they, you know, maybe they had, for
example, you know, the men, the big colleges and universities,
they had these teachings, which are these, you know, these
radicals telling people why this Vietnam War is a piece of crap.
And in fact, they went it was, and they got all the students
all worked up. And so they could get their willpower to a point
where they start protesting, and then all hell broke loose. Well,
that makes a lot of sense, because, of course, we do not
have a draft. And in fact, what the game has been changed, where
somehow we've made it possible for all of these mercenaries to
go in, like Blackwater, or z as it's known now. So that's the
big change is we just we just rent an army, we don't actually
send our kids over anymore.
Well, that's I mean, originally they you know, in Vietnam was
mostly these professionals. They weren't the rent the army
because we actually wasn't really a great idea. But there
was mostly you know, Special Forces rangers and all these you
know, hot shots before they just start throwing bodies at it. And
I think I think what's going to happen is I think at some point
because the anti war people that are within that are in Congress,
they know that the one thing they can do to get draw
attention to the fact that this war we should stop this crap is
the day we'll be the ones that tried to institute a draft. And
I think a draft is going to be instituted because we were at
some point we just can't afford to run these wars. It's too
expensive.
Yeah, well, no, because we've we've let the printing of money
keep on going.
At some point we're gonna have to either do a draft or stop
this crap.
Interesting, though, that you say that that some of these laws
the anti war movement will actually start to institute the
draft that you write that's that that is that you get someone's
attention pretty quick. Hey, boy. Grab a hold of this m 16.
Boy, I mean, going over to Iraq and Afghanistan. And in fact,
not just Hey, boy. Hey, girl, you're going to hate it. hate it
so much. It's so stupid. What are we what the fuck are we
doing there?
We are pretty well, you already know you're the one that has to
worry. Yeah, we're there to protect a poppy crop not
just protect it. We reinstated it grew it all again after the
Taliban decimated it. And now we're shipping it back.
Yeah, you want to keep the population docile and you got to
drug them.
John, I'm so proud of you yet again.
I like that theory. It sounds good.
It's what's happening then. For those of you who still wonder
me nuts right drugs should be legalized.
Yes MENA Arkansas Oh, I have a good one on that. If you're in
California the word is now officially out. Here it is Los
Angeles County District Attorney prepares to crack down on pot
outlets wear and tear California Los Angeles
that's not gonna fly.
Well, let me
simply pot is essentially as is a de facto legal in California
already. And anyone who thinks they're gonna get anywhere
cracking down is gonna they're gonna find themselves run out of
town.
Well, the story is slow to load and kind of like the potheads
were trying to read it. And here we go.
Hey, man, story, man. I can't find this. In Los Angeles. Turn
the pay.
Los Angeles County District Attorney Steve Cooley said
Thursday he will prosecute medical marijuana dispensaries
for over the counter sales targeting a practice that has
become commonplace under an initiative approved by
California voters more than a decade ago. He says,
Now who is this guy? Well, hold on a second. Let me get the
browser. What's this guy's name? Steve
Cooley, the Los Angeles County District Attorney he says the
vast, vast, vast majority, about 100% of dispensaries in Los
Angeles county and the city are operating illegally. They are
dealing marijuana illegally, according to our theory. What's
our theory? He has a theory that's that's his theory. The
time is right to deal with this problem. Interesting.
He's a former LAPD. Yeah, so he's got his you know he's got
his mind. Ain't got a mindset that's dubious. He's just third
term. The guy 61 or 262. He looks like a dick. Oh in his in
his office was success. It was unsuccessful in the prosecution
of Robert Blake for the murder of his wife. The death but they
go after doe after the potheads and maybe he's a little more
lucky there.
I think it's a natural response to the rather flagrant marketing
practices of a bunch of the dispensaries. The medical veneer
has been wearing thinner and thinner, which of course is
true.
Yeah, it's true. Well, it's bogus. But there's no reason for
this guy to pick it up. According to the Los Angeles
Times advocates for Bembe reading this from Wikipedia,
advocates for battered women had criticized Cooley's handling of
Deborah peddlers case and others like it in eight out of eight
cases he's he's opposed the use of a California law that allows
battered women in prison to be given a new hearing if evidence
of domestic violence violence was omitted during the original
proceedings. Heaven forbid that these battered women get a
second hearing Yeah, the guy's a dick. I have cables in Toluca
Lake. Why is it go down? I live in competent Toluca Lake. I
mean, well, they have a picture of him here in the in the
Wikipedia, standing in front of the Republican club banner.
Another sleazeball. Hey, good luck down there in LA. We have a
dipshit da up here too. So it gets the state's filled with
them.
So there's a lot of talk about another stimulus package. Have
you been hearing the whispering? Yeah. And it looks like there is
one.
The first one? Uh huh. I
don't know. You mean, the $787 billion? Well, it didn't work.
Now, all we have is more people out of jobs. And so here's,
here's some stuff that's going on already that this probably?
Well, first of all, there's a there is a lot being done. I
think this is part of the the original stimulus. So now the
House has voted yet another 13 additional weeks of unemployment
benefits for laid off workers. And that's only if you're in a
state where the jobless rate is 8.5% or above, which I think is
about all of them. Thursday, Senate Democrats reached a deal
to extend extend the benefits and additional 14 weeks. Both
proposals are paid for by extending a Federal Unemployment
Tax nice on the table extending subsidies for laid off workers
to help them with their Cobra, that'll be $25 billion. So then
they're getting ready to pass all this but they don't know how
to pay for it. That's that's essentially this is a AP
article. several bills would issue extra large payments, more
than 50 million Social Security recipients to make up for the
lack of cost of living increase next year. Another bill on the
table was set one time payments at $250. Matching the the amount
paid to Social Security recipients and railroad retirees
as part of the stimulus package the previous one. What else do
we have? Nancy Pelosi is considering a proposal to allow
money losing companies to use their losses to get refunds of
taxes paid in the previous five years. That'll be good. Here's
what I kind of like, proposed by Arlen Specter, if you witness
this home inspector, I think it was if you create a new job
within your company, you'll get a $4,000 Check. Which is
probably going to get tax credit I think. Yeah, it's usually a
tax credit. Yeah. But which not but still cool. So,
so let's hire some people.
Yeah. Hey, there you go. Women, it doesn't say how much you have
to actually pay them, does it?
I don't know. Look it up if you don't have to pay him much. I
mean, this could be a bonanza.
This is a good idea.
And that doesn't say how long you have to keep them. Can you
hire him for a week?
I don't know. I'm
this is interesting. Oh, it's paid out over two years ago.
It's a tax credit. paid out over two years for each new employee.
Does employee have to stay there for two years? Well, if they
quit, I don't know John,
what if you have one employee and keep it And he keeps
quitting and you rehire him every time.
You can make a lot of money off of that guy.
Okay. Let's keep our eye on this one, shall we? I could be
interesting. Anyway, what this is all amounting up to is
clearly that a new stimulus is being prepared. And I think it
will happen. I really think it will happen. Because we're bust
we are bust is ridiculous. I guess that's as good a time as
any to complain about our financial future for our show.
Yeah, how are we doing financially?
I think we're doing okay, even though we didn't get a lot in
because it's Thursday, but we've only been off the air for a
couple of hours. But I want to mention that people that did
give us some contributions this last couple of days. And I also
want to mention Matthew Stewart in Guelph, Ontario, who gave us
50 bucks and claims that we've never mentioned him even though
I think we did.
Okay. Well, Matthew, thank you very much. Appreciate it. This
will be the second time he's donated.
We've looked for it. We were looking for as much money from
Canadians as possible. Yes. Because the dollar is worth more
than ours now and they got it easy up there. Anyway, we have
Mickey Kennedy at Kingsborough Kingsville, Maryland, who's our
executive producer today, give us $399. If we and he wants us
to plug e releases.com.
Celebrating 11 years of press release distribution this month
$399. We'll get your news on the wire and to journalists before
they hit the unemployment line.
So you know, there's a bunch of these services that do this. I
mean, there's PR Newswire, there's e releases, there's
market wire, I think Business Wire, there's a bunch of these
and E releases is one of them, and they're actually pretty good
services. And at this point in time, they're as good as the
newspapers. Yeah, no kidding. Uh, press releases, you know,
I'd have to use newspapers or just running press releases
anyway. So let's just give up. Yeah. So anyway, that's e
releases.com. And check it out. One thing Mickey for being the
executive producer of the show, Robert seals, it gave us 50
bucks and he is from the the interesting town of Cripple
Creek, Colorado,
yay, Cripple Creek.
That is so you know, wow. Sterling Ellsworth gave us
$77.77 Last week, and he said and I couldn't remember where
he's from. And he sent me a note saying, I'm from Santa Barbara,
you idiot. Here's another $77.77
Thank you. Wait a minute. Where's he from? Again? I can't
remember John. Danna Barbara. No, don't tell me. He owes me
money.
Oprah's from really
is she's not. She's not a Chicago native.
Well, she's got a big place in LA and Santa Barbara. She made
sense. Put Santa Barbara on the map. Right on. Yon Davies or Ian
Ian Davies in Porthcawl PR THC? Aw l Bridgend UK give us 55. Can
you hear the sirens out there?
I've wondered if that was you or me?
No, it's sirens are coming to get me. Let me
hurry up. Get on with people. Before you mess it up. Yeah, J
Kramer
Eagan, Minnesota 52. I think I mentioned him before. But that's
all we got. So we need people to pick up the slack a little bit.
I'd like to get some more people from the Netherlands and Holland
for sure. Because Adam is providing much of their
entertainment over there. Yeah. And do you know
how much money has been made on my personal my personal life in
the past? Four or five months? Millions? I tell you, yeah,
millions I'm providing great
entertainment you. And by the way, we do have some jingles to
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And we actually worked pretty hard on this show. And you know,
the amount of money we're making for it is nowhere it's not even
near, you know, like small market radio salary. And we'd
love to do more and I have said repeatedly I would love to spend
all day doing this and if we get enough money in donations, I
will quit my day job I'd be happy to.
And and I think everyone else would be happy too. So I want to
mention one more person who gave us 50 bucks was Jordan Wyatt out
of New Zealand and he runs a podcast called the NS Zed, which
is what you say for z in New Zealand and Zed vegan. And he
tells me that he had an interesting thing to say. He
said, for one thing, I don't know why a vegan listens to the
show, or is it vegan? I can never remember. But anyway, I
don't understand. He likes
to be informed. John, there's nothing wrong with that. No, but
he did come up with the gym. He says that if there's if the
government makes an edict that you have to take the swine flu
shot because there's animal
products, you can't have it. Yeah, you're a vegan, right?
You say you're a vegan. I can't take this shot. It's against my
religion, blah, blah, blah, and then you won't get the shot.
That's actually genius.
A very good and maybe he's a carnivore, curious. Maybe, maybe
that's why he listens to the show. I'm curious. That's a good
way, by the way in the chat room. Jay won't darts at his
donation didn't get read. Who? J Is there a J who donated?
Not in this last week that didn't last couple of days? Not
didn't come?
He's from New Zealand.
New Zealand. I just mentioned this Jordan Wyatt. Oh, okay.
Yeah, you're right. You're right. You're right. You're
right. He just responded. Yeah, he could catch it. Okay. I'm
sorry. Finally, John, I just like to give some props to I'm
not a big fan of the Electronic Frontier Foundation. Because the
when I had my first dispute with MTV, they basically said, no
servers for you, we don't give a shit. And I think they should
have helped me at the time. But they have been fighting pretty
hard about the FISA wiretaps, and they finally got some real a
real answer about the relationship between telcos in
particular at&t, who, of course, were spying on on American
citizens, which is the one thing that you pretty much could live
in America and know that that wouldn't happen. And that all
changed under George W. Bush has been extended by our current
president who said he wouldn't. So here's here's that little
ditty that came out of the district court. Federal rules,
the Feds argued document showing consultation over the
controversial telecom immunity proposal were not subject to the
Freedom of Information Act since they are protected as quote,
intra agency records. And here's the paragraph that's cool.
communications between the agencies and the
telecommunications companies regarding the immunity
provisions of the proposed legislation had been regarded as
intra agency, because the government and the companies
have a common interest in the defense of the pending
litigation and communications regarding the immunity
provisions concern, that common interest in other words, AT and
T is considered to be an agency.
Well, haven't you seen their building over there in San
Francisco?
Yeah, yes, of course I have. But it's just nice to actually have
it in black and white. They are part of the they're a federal
agency. They are there the CIA? Wow. Thank you. Pinky. Pinky
swear. They are the CIA right there that says black and white.
Yeah, that's why they had that you know that. That's why you
know, the thing about the at&t First they busted him up. And
then all these little bells popped up. And then one Bell
started buying all the ads and about all the Asian Pacific Bell
got bought by SBC. And the next thing you know, they all bought
everybody else. And then they changed the name. Back to AT and
T, because they had too much thick because the CIA had
printed up so much letterhead.
They had all the business cards in place. Everyone had those
cool passes and shields. All right. Anyway, you still have
plenty of time to get rid of your guns if you want to be
considered for healthcare under the newly minted changed health
care insurance reform bills that will be passed right under your
very noses this Tuesday. While you're talking about Moon
blasts, MPs prizes,
and don't forget to go to no agenda show.com and donate just
because it for no other reason. That fact that Adam dug up that
gun thing, which is just the sneakiest way for gun control
guys to get their foot in the door that I've ever heard that
says just chicken.
And thanks for tuning in early. Those of you who are on the
stream. We also always tried to come to you early if there's
some travel restrictions, again, happy to quit the day job but
right now I can't. So instead of doing something later and
bugging out, we make sure that everyone has a show to listen to
when they expect that even if wasn't completely live. And
we'll be talking to you again on Thursday. Coming to you from
Gitmo nation West in San Francisco, California. I'm Adam
curry
and from Silicon Valley Your time John C. Dvorak. Thursday
will be the day we'll talk to again right here on no agenda.