1 00:00:01,260 --> 00:00:06,660 It's dangerous to fly. It's dangerous to fly. Tell everybody 2 00:00:06,660 --> 00:00:12,690 to shut down. Adam curry, John C. Dvorak. 2010 times your gizmo 3 00:00:12,690 --> 00:00:15,870 nation media assassination, episode one nine or two. 4 00:00:16,620 --> 00:00:19,680 This is no agenda, tracing the roots 5 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:23,220 of ash mageddon and coming to you from the hilltop Watchtower 6 00:00:23,220 --> 00:00:25,560 crackpot command centre and GIBBO nation West in the 7 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:28,770 People's Republic of Southern California. Yay, in the morning, 8 00:00:29,010 --> 00:00:29,970 I'm Adam curry, 9 00:00:30,059 --> 00:00:33,929 and from the northern heights of Silicon Valley north, I'm John 10 00:00:33,929 --> 00:00:42,089 C. Dvorak. In the morning, John, in the morning to you. And in 11 00:00:42,089 --> 00:00:43,379 the morning to everyone listening. 12 00:00:43,410 --> 00:00:48,510 Yes. And everybody on the stream know agenda stream.com and in 13 00:00:48,510 --> 00:00:51,960 the chat room at no agenda chat.com. Did you tweet? Yep. 14 00:00:52,230 --> 00:00:52,800 Who 15 00:00:54,660 --> 00:00:57,630 I first search on in the morning and you'll find my tweet. 16 00:00:57,990 --> 00:01:06,930 Just you want to just do look at you the real divorce Jack. Okay, 17 00:01:07,530 --> 00:01:10,500 retweet. Perfect, much easier. 18 00:01:16,110 --> 00:01:21,330 So, wow. Where do we start Ash mageddon? 19 00:01:22,830 --> 00:01:25,410 I don't know. You know, Ash mageddon is an interesting story 20 00:01:25,410 --> 00:01:29,460 from only from the I think from the financial perspective. And 21 00:01:29,460 --> 00:01:32,100 the fact that people that were stuck in France were also stuck 22 00:01:32,100 --> 00:01:36,720 with that with a railroad engineer train strike, which I 23 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,300 thought was the irony of the whole thing. It is 24 00:01:39,300 --> 00:01:42,810 because I think that's actually what it's all about. I think 25 00:01:42,810 --> 00:01:44,400 this whole thing is about trains. 26 00:01:46,379 --> 00:01:49,049 Yeah, well, you mean the blue of the volcano, so the train 27 00:01:49,049 --> 00:01:49,559 strike. 28 00:01:50,879 --> 00:01:54,659 You know, whether they blew the volcano or not is is neither 29 00:01:54,659 --> 00:01:57,479 here nor there. But the way it's being used, as we know, even 30 00:01:57,479 --> 00:02:02,879 Rahm Emanuel says, Never let a good crisis go to waste. I think 31 00:02:02,879 --> 00:02:07,739 that there's actual bullcrap involved here to fear to give 32 00:02:07,739 --> 00:02:12,479 people more fear, more shock about aviation, how unreliable 33 00:02:12,479 --> 00:02:16,079 it is, and how horrible it is. And we already have all of these 34 00:02:16,079 --> 00:02:17,459 security measures. 35 00:02:17,910 --> 00:02:21,480 I'm not seen any of this. Anybody saying it's unreliable, 36 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:25,170 horrible. I just see a bunch of people in the airport. Oh, 37 00:02:26,100 --> 00:02:30,420 oh, it's completely implied. It's completely implies that get 38 00:02:30,420 --> 00:02:33,540 net? Well, why don't we do our executive producer first and 39 00:02:33,540 --> 00:02:35,790 Associate Executive producers and then I'll go through some of 40 00:02:35,790 --> 00:02:36,570 the research. 41 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:42,600 Really weird executive producer situation this week. Oh, we have 42 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:48,090 three executive producers and three Associate Executive 43 00:02:48,090 --> 00:02:53,130 producers. And the three executive producers each gave 44 00:02:53,130 --> 00:02:56,280 $333. 45 00:03:06,390 --> 00:03:08,400 Really, this is good stuff. 46 00:03:08,700 --> 00:03:12,750 It's weird. But this is again, of course, anyone who's familiar 47 00:03:12,750 --> 00:03:15,930 with random number theory knows that stuff like this happens and 48 00:03:15,930 --> 00:03:18,930 always happens like this. But this one here is really off the 49 00:03:18,930 --> 00:03:26,490 wall. So let's go over. It guys are okay. Werner a Philipson. 50 00:03:27,030 --> 00:03:27,510 Oh, 51 00:03:27,540 --> 00:03:29,400 I know Werner. Well, yes. 52 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:33,810 He says hi. He says he's a bit late. He's apparently your 53 00:03:33,810 --> 00:03:35,400 friend. Edie does she poles? 54 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:40,710 Yes. He's, he's a good guy. He's, let's let's not say too 55 00:03:40,710 --> 00:03:41,940 much about Wernher. But he's 56 00:03:43,380 --> 00:03:47,430 from the Netherlands. And he gave us 333 33 57 00:03:47,490 --> 00:03:51,270 Yeah, maybe I should just say that for those who are donating 58 00:03:51,270 --> 00:03:55,740 $333.33 If you do it three times, we kick in the extra 59 00:03:55,740 --> 00:03:57,930 penny and make you a night on the spot. 60 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,540 Yeah, we're big spenders. When it comes to that kind of thing. 61 00:04:00,570 --> 00:04:06,780 We don't mess around. AJ to ca from normal. Not abnormal, but 62 00:04:06,780 --> 00:04:12,270 normal. Illinois, gave us $333.33 he's donating part of 63 00:04:12,270 --> 00:04:16,230 his tax refund. And he says he could use the karma even though 64 00:04:16,230 --> 00:04:18,630 he has a good job and he's making plenty of money at least. 65 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:22,290 making dough man. 66 00:04:23,280 --> 00:04:28,020 Well, we appreciate that. Matthew hocking Markinson. 67 00:04:28,050 --> 00:04:31,920 Yeah, Matthew has has donated before as me. Yes. And he 68 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,920 actually donated at 330 in the morning. 69 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:40,410 Yeah, he did it. It's three things a lot of control. It's 70 00:04:40,410 --> 00:04:45,390 not It's good. It's 330 in the morning, so I give us $333 I 71 00:04:45,390 --> 00:04:49,140 just got out of a cab at a top talk to an African cab driver 72 00:04:49,140 --> 00:04:54,150 here in Brisbane, Brisbane. Brisbane say it right John? 73 00:04:54,750 --> 00:04:59,520 talking all about New World Order all the way home. Anyway, 74 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,520 I was thinking I would donate because I told him I would save 75 00:05:02,550 --> 00:05:07,680 so save a ring for me it's going to be a night I'm amazed that he 76 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:09,720 thinks the ring will help and pick up chicks 77 00:05:09,900 --> 00:05:13,020 oh yeah we haven't even talked about the power of the ring yet 78 00:05:15,660 --> 00:05:18,750 the power that we're going to make 100 of them so there's 79 00:05:18,750 --> 00:05:24,360 gonna be limited so people that are getting really can be round 80 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:27,300 one the second ring we do when we every every saw 100 of them 81 00:05:27,300 --> 00:05:30,210 would sell we're not selling these go to the Knights there'll 82 00:05:30,210 --> 00:05:33,240 be a two one the next batch and that'll be slightly different 83 00:05:33,660 --> 00:05:44,220 collect all select social executive for ninja I share 84 00:05:44,220 --> 00:05:49,200 media who was going to wonder if he is going to become sir I 85 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:50,220 share media 86 00:05:51,540 --> 00:05:54,030 is I share indeed a night today 87 00:05:55,410 --> 00:05:58,590 he thinks he's a knight but he did not because he was he was 88 00:05:58,590 --> 00:06:01,560 donated as light as somebody else. I don't know if he wants 89 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,800 to name mentioned he would like to get a ring but don't chop my 90 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,860 head off blah blah blah. We're gonna have to do the math on 91 00:06:07,860 --> 00:06:11,640 this because he didn't give us a an accounting so and we didn't 92 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:16,050 do it. So after that Eric and run it up. Eric Michelle is will 93 00:06:16,050 --> 00:06:22,020 be will do a next show if he is for night. Then we have Nina 94 00:06:22,050 --> 00:06:29,070 Chris Kristen HetLand. From Norway. This is good. We have a 95 00:06:29,070 --> 00:06:34,170 lot. This is an international batch people today in Norway and 96 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:40,620 he he says executive producer equals job somewhere to go now 97 00:06:40,620 --> 00:06:43,380 when the government becomes even more dangerous. Keep up the work 98 00:06:43,500 --> 00:06:47,580 law. Same thing as he gets 200 bucks and then Charles 99 00:06:47,700 --> 00:06:53,490 Hendrickson from Manhattan, Indiana to honour also 100 00:06:53,970 --> 00:06:57,690 interesting numbers. Green John and greetings, John and Adam. I 101 00:06:57,690 --> 00:07:00,420 was finishing up my taxes today while listening to the show on 102 00:07:00,420 --> 00:07:07,350 the Zune. Yay, easy him and the other four guys. Zune good Hausa 103 00:07:08,670 --> 00:07:11,160 because I'm sending a big cheque to the United States Treasury, 104 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,460 it feels like a terrible way. So I decided to send you my Pay Pal 105 00:07:14,460 --> 00:07:17,880 balance on a nice balance. At least I know it will go to 106 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:21,630 something positive, keep up the great work. And whatever 107 00:07:21,630 --> 00:07:24,510 happened to the wine reviews you promised. Yes. 108 00:07:24,540 --> 00:07:28,350 So Eric, the shill says that I share media actually has made a 109 00:07:28,350 --> 00:07:32,400 donation on behalf of someone else. That's a tough call. Now. 110 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:34,920 If you're on behalf of someone else, then 111 00:07:34,950 --> 00:07:39,420 we'll be in touch with I share media and ya know if it's what 112 00:07:39,420 --> 00:07:42,810 No, I don't. Was that made on behalf of someone else? Or was 113 00:07:42,810 --> 00:07:47,550 it made by someone else's? That's the same person. So this 114 00:07:47,550 --> 00:07:48,270 is where we I 115 00:07:48,270 --> 00:07:51,180 think we have to have a meeting. Let's have a meeting about this 116 00:07:52,200 --> 00:08:02,880 meeting. I'd like to I'd like to mention a couple of PR 117 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:07,080 associates, people who would like to become PR associates let 118 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:08,310 me put it to put it this way. 119 00:08:10,140 --> 00:08:15,360 The Ridley report.com did a nice little. Now this is not I mean, 120 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,850 when I'm thinking of a PR associate, it's got to be big, 121 00:08:17,850 --> 00:08:19,380 right? Like the billboards we had. 122 00:08:19,740 --> 00:08:22,380 Yeah, the billboard or somebody does a piece of graffiti. 123 00:08:23,700 --> 00:08:26,700 Calling into a big national radio show or something like 124 00:08:26,700 --> 00:08:29,970 that. It's kind of on Howard Stern would be funny. That's not 125 00:08:29,970 --> 00:08:31,500 really big national anymore. I 126 00:08:31,500 --> 00:08:33,690 know. But it's still the irony. The irony 127 00:08:33,690 --> 00:08:42,120 would be good. That's true. Then also Tyler glaze who spent $10 128 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:46,860 on Xbox Live credits to change his as Microsoft Points to 129 00:08:46,860 --> 00:08:50,130 change his gamertag to no agenda podcast all of these good 130 00:08:50,130 --> 00:08:53,730 initiatives, of course, but we're really looking for for 131 00:08:53,730 --> 00:08:56,520 something really, really big obviously to become a full blown 132 00:08:56,520 --> 00:09:00,600 PR associate. In the meantime, we would like to thank humbly 133 00:09:00,630 --> 00:09:05,100 Warner Philipson AJ tcaa Matthew hocking as our executive 134 00:09:05,100 --> 00:09:09,240 producers of episode 192 and our Associate Executive Producers I 135 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:13,470 share media Nina Kristen HetLand and Charles Hendrickson, you 136 00:09:13,470 --> 00:09:15,600 know that you can put this on your resume you can put it in 137 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:19,320 your email signature take out that sent from my iPhone thing 138 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:23,220 that's incredibly lame and put it in executive producer or if 139 00:09:23,220 --> 00:09:26,910 appropriate, Associate Executive Producer of no agenda Show 140 00:09:26,940 --> 00:09:31,890 episode 192 And please, you know what to do we've got a formula 141 00:09:31,890 --> 00:09:37,380 and it is your job to uphold it. Our formula is this we go out we 142 00:09:37,380 --> 00:09:38,370 hit people in the mouth 143 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:57,480 shut up slave. So, after the show on Thursday, John when of 144 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:02,730 course this, this ash mageddon took place. I started getting a 145 00:10:02,730 --> 00:10:07,140 lot of emails from mainly musicians who were stuck in 146 00:10:07,140 --> 00:10:10,110 different parts of Europe and like, hey, yeah, screwed. Oh, 147 00:10:10,140 --> 00:10:13,110 yeah, I was like, I got a guy who's got to play with Iggy Pop, 148 00:10:13,110 --> 00:10:16,800 he's got to get to Luxembourg or Strasburg, or whatever. And I'm 149 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,620 like, You know what, I really don't know what's going on with 150 00:10:19,620 --> 00:10:24,510 general aviation. Now, you would presume that aircraft that fly 151 00:10:24,510 --> 00:10:27,870 at much lower levels that don't have turbine engines, and there 152 00:10:27,870 --> 00:10:31,320 wouldn't be a problem with them flying. So I start calling up my 153 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:36,090 buddies. And it's like, no, go, we're grounded. Nothing in the 154 00:10:36,090 --> 00:10:38,820 sky. And like, Wow, that's pretty amazing. And I talked to 155 00:10:38,820 --> 00:10:44,280 my instructor, Wing Commander William, who's. He's the kind of 156 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,580 guy that really knows all the ins and outs of every aspect of 157 00:10:47,580 --> 00:10:52,200 aviation Wink, wink, nudge nudge. And, and I say so well, 158 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:55,470 how's the weather he says it is the most beautiful weather ever, 159 00:10:55,800 --> 00:11:00,330 to blue skies, temperatures. Fantastic. This will be awesome 160 00:11:00,330 --> 00:11:03,600 to fly in to where there's no like, you know, volcanic ash 161 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,510 clouds at that there's no volcanic ash cloud here. So 162 00:11:06,510 --> 00:11:10,140 okay, so well. So is anyone flying VFR visual flight rules, 163 00:11:10,140 --> 00:11:13,770 which means you fly, you know, below a certain altitude, which 164 00:11:13,770 --> 00:11:16,950 is much lower than this ash cloud is is reported to be at? 165 00:11:17,250 --> 00:11:19,200 He said, Well, let me tell you what's happened to two of the 166 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:22,890 guys that that have aircraft maintained with him, one took 167 00:11:22,890 --> 00:11:28,320 off from a private strip in France. And within like 15 168 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,920 minutes he had to mirages flying next to him, forcing him to the 169 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:36,270 ground mirages. So by the way, they also have jet engines. 170 00:11:36,450 --> 00:11:38,910 Yeah, why the Mirage is up in the air? Well, let 171 00:11:38,910 --> 00:11:43,500 me take it a little further. guy took off from England, from a 172 00:11:43,500 --> 00:11:48,210 small strip, Royal Air Force, right next to him land. And I'm 173 00:11:48,210 --> 00:11:52,350 like, Well, isn't that a little bit? Overkill? I mean, you know, 174 00:11:52,350 --> 00:11:55,380 air traffic control could basically say, excuse me, you 175 00:11:55,380 --> 00:11:57,870 must land now. But that's really 176 00:11:57,870 --> 00:12:00,480 overkill. But you know how much it costs to fly those things 177 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:04,980 just casually? Why are expensive planes to put in the air in the 178 00:12:04,980 --> 00:12:05,700 first place? Why 179 00:12:05,700 --> 00:12:09,210 yes, I happen to know that it's quite expensive. And so I said 180 00:12:09,210 --> 00:12:11,940 to the Wing Commander, I said, Well, what is that all about? He 181 00:12:11,940 --> 00:12:14,490 says, Well, there's probably something else going on first 182 00:12:14,490 --> 00:12:20,850 clue. And so you know, I've been searching and researching for 183 00:12:20,850 --> 00:12:23,910 the past two days, because this doesn't feel right at all, 184 00:12:23,910 --> 00:12:29,700 particularly if you look at the lamestream media, which is I let 185 00:12:29,700 --> 00:12:32,520 me play this for you, John, you have to listen to Rick Sanchez. 186 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:37,500 Our favourite, our new favourite guy. This is how the American 187 00:12:37,500 --> 00:12:40,140 media reports on this type of stuff. You've got to listen to 188 00:12:40,140 --> 00:12:44,010 this. This is just amazing. Oh, he's such a he's such a 189 00:12:44,010 --> 00:12:44,670 scientist. I 190 00:12:44,670 --> 00:12:49,410 was just asking. How can you get a volcano in Iceland? To when 191 00:12:49,410 --> 00:12:51,210 you think of when you think of a volcano you think of like how 192 00:12:51,210 --> 00:12:54,150 why he had long words like that. You don't think of Iceland? You 193 00:12:54,150 --> 00:12:58,530 think it's too cold? To have a volcano there? But no, there it 194 00:12:58,530 --> 00:13:00,000 is. What is this? 195 00:13:00,030 --> 00:13:03,060 That is it's too cold to have a volcano there. John. 196 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,200 was just being facetious. But 197 00:13:07,829 --> 00:13:09,209 listen to the rest of the port. 198 00:13:10,530 --> 00:13:13,440 Take us through these pictures. That is a plume of ash coming 199 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:18,630 out of the top of all volcano going straight up for the cloud. 200 00:13:18,630 --> 00:13:22,560 Okay, yeah, volcanoes. Regular weather happening underneath it, 201 00:13:22,590 --> 00:13:25,140 this thing's go in 10s of 1000s of feet in the sky. And it is 202 00:13:25,140 --> 00:13:28,050 going right into the flight path of an awful lot of aeroplanes 203 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:32,010 right into the flight path of light into the flight into the 204 00:13:32,010 --> 00:13:34,830 flight path. So let me talk about that for a second. 205 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:38,250 Because, you know, I was even a little sceptical on on Thursday 206 00:13:38,250 --> 00:13:42,180 show and I have to say you, you jumped all over me saying no 207 00:13:42,180 --> 00:13:48,810 planes crash for Android stop. Yeah, that is of course true. 208 00:13:49,230 --> 00:13:52,380 But that's not when that's if you really fly through the 209 00:13:52,380 --> 00:13:56,010 direct cloud itself, not necessarily this thing that is 210 00:13:56,040 --> 00:14:00,750 allegedly floating over Europe. So here's what interests me, we 211 00:14:00,750 --> 00:14:04,320 have a couple of people who listen to the show who work at 212 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:10,230 Euro control, to be name not to be mentioned, by the way. And so 213 00:14:10,230 --> 00:14:13,680 I ping them I say, you know, dude, what's going on with, with 214 00:14:13,680 --> 00:14:16,680 Euro control? You know, what's the deal with this? You had you 215 00:14:16,680 --> 00:14:19,830 guys never expected something like this not take into account, 216 00:14:20,250 --> 00:14:24,450 the way the jet stream flows. And the way almost all 217 00:14:24,450 --> 00:14:29,400 transatlantic flights are routed is always over Iceland. Right? 218 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,670 That's for two reasons, one for the Jetstream. So you pick up 219 00:14:32,670 --> 00:14:36,840 some extra speed. And the other one is, it's it's handy if you 220 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:40,080 have an engine failure to have a place to land. So that's why 221 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,390 you're kind of rounded that way. And also, I think the curvature 222 00:14:42,390 --> 00:14:46,680 of the Earth makes it a shorter route. So So I say, you know, 223 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:52,230 have you guys ever done any, like, exercises for this? And it 224 00:14:52,230 --> 00:14:56,160 turns out that in November indeed, Euro control, did an 225 00:14:56,160 --> 00:15:02,250 exercise in the event of a volcanic ash. disaster. But they 226 00:15:02,250 --> 00:15:06,150 did it in Italy. Of course, they got some volcanoes there. So 227 00:15:06,180 --> 00:15:10,200 that kind of makes sense. But in, in, in all these years of 228 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:15,030 transAtlantic flight, they never did a volcanic ash exercise. In 229 00:15:15,030 --> 00:15:19,140 the case, one of these volcanoes in Iceland winter rock that I 230 00:15:19,140 --> 00:15:20,700 found truly weird. 231 00:15:21,030 --> 00:15:24,840 Well, this thing only goes off once every, you know, six 700 232 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:28,860 years. And I don't think anyone really anticipated it. I think 233 00:15:28,860 --> 00:15:30,810 that one thing, by the way, not to interrupt your train of 234 00:15:30,810 --> 00:15:33,750 thought here, but you know, we have to keep it in mind every 235 00:15:33,750 --> 00:15:37,470 time this particular volcano seems to have erupted. It's next 236 00:15:37,470 --> 00:15:42,600 door neighbour. Something like five times bigger. Yeah, tends 237 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:43,530 to go off. 238 00:15:45,420 --> 00:15:48,750 Well, so that's my point. You're kind of you're kind of proving 239 00:15:48,750 --> 00:15:53,040 it for me. So anyway, so the next thing is, Where's this 240 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:56,310 coming from? Where's the shutdown of all airspace coming 241 00:15:56,310 --> 00:15:59,790 from? And like, who who's determining this? Well, it's 242 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:05,220 coming from. And no one really knows. Oh, that's interesting. 243 00:16:05,250 --> 00:16:10,170 Yeah. So let's start tracing it back. It comes from ICAO. I see 244 00:16:10,170 --> 00:16:14,820 a oh, by the way, has nothing at all about this on their website, 245 00:16:14,820 --> 00:16:18,960 not a news article, not a single thing. ICAO is mainly 246 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:25,320 responsible for navigational charts, of course, the ICAO code 247 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:29,520 so each airport has a code and this is a fine United Nations 248 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:34,560 organisation. They're getting their information from the V A 249 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:42,540 C, the volcanic ash. I forgot to cite the second a volcanic ash 250 00:16:42,570 --> 00:16:47,400 advisory centre, of which there are nine in the world and these 251 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:52,950 are at the Met Office officers I should say, the offices the Met 252 00:16:52,980 --> 00:16:55,800 the meteorological offices, the people who bring you the 253 00:16:55,800 --> 00:17:00,090 weather, weather, guys, the weather guys, so all of Europe 254 00:17:00,810 --> 00:17:06,960 is shut down because the V a c in London, has issued in 255 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:12,060 advisories a bunch of scientists saying oh, you know what? 256 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,120 Sciences is 257 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:20,639 dangerous to fly. It's dangerous to fly. Tell everybody to shut 258 00:17:20,639 --> 00:17:23,399 down. And 259 00:17:23,639 --> 00:17:27,059 that has to be viewed that they make a note of the time that's 260 00:17:27,059 --> 00:17:29,909 the clip that starts to show. That's the clip. Okay, I'll 261 00:17:29,909 --> 00:17:32,639 search. You don't even it's you sounded. 262 00:17:33,120 --> 00:17:38,850 I sounded good. Did not sound good. So now these are they so 263 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,550 right, I'm looking at the volcanic ash advisory from 264 00:17:41,550 --> 00:17:49,140 London. And it's aviation colour code red. Whatever that means is 265 00:17:49,140 --> 00:17:52,560 this. No one knows what the hell this really means. But then the 266 00:17:52,590 --> 00:17:56,130 so this is not an aviation shutdowns like like aviation 267 00:17:56,130 --> 00:17:59,640 experts said, Wow, this is dangerous. No government said 268 00:17:59,730 --> 00:18:04,890 shut it down. This is dangerous. And now we've got particularly 269 00:18:05,340 --> 00:18:10,830 in Norway, where we have the president of Norwegian Air 270 00:18:10,830 --> 00:18:15,690 saying hey, the danger of flying is really minimal. Even better. 271 00:18:16,020 --> 00:18:19,440 A Scandinavian Scandinavian Airlines captain says this is 272 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:23,850 the biggest hysteria of the century. Paragon are Stephens. 273 00:18:23,939 --> 00:18:26,219 Yeah, no. I think we've all seen these these. 274 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,490 Guys. I disagree. I don't think everyone has seen these. 275 00:18:29,699 --> 00:18:32,219 That guy's been all over the blogs. That's for sure. That 276 00:18:32,219 --> 00:18:35,189 Scandinavian guy. Oh, really? Now my take on the whole thing 277 00:18:35,189 --> 00:18:38,009 is that if there's none if the skies are like you say if they 278 00:18:38,009 --> 00:18:41,819 said this clear as a bell? Yeah, obviously it's not a problem. 279 00:18:41,819 --> 00:18:48,209 But if there's a big cloud you can be able to fly over the 280 00:18:48,209 --> 00:18:52,169 cloud because the thing was only going the day, say 30,030 35,000 281 00:18:52,169 --> 00:18:53,159 feet. Maybe you can 282 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,910 fly under the cloud. You can fly over the cloud, but there is no 283 00:18:56,910 --> 00:19:01,740 cloud. This is the whole point. There is no cloud KLM the 284 00:19:01,740 --> 00:19:05,550 president of KLM was getting pissed off about this, you know, 285 00:19:05,730 --> 00:19:08,490 maybe losing all that money has something to do with it. His 286 00:19:08,550 --> 00:19:13,560 options were devaluing he they did a test flight last night, 287 00:19:13,620 --> 00:19:16,620 yesterday afternoon, actually, they went up. They took it all 288 00:19:16,620 --> 00:19:21,000 the way up to 41,000 feet. They came back down. They checked the 289 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:25,770 plane there's like no ash. Nothing wrong. Lufthansa is 290 00:19:25,770 --> 00:19:31,980 flying planes, repositioning planes between Dussel just 291 00:19:31,980 --> 00:19:36,810 Dusseldorf and Munich I believe. So that when aviation cranks up 292 00:19:36,810 --> 00:19:40,500 again, they have to have crews and planes in the right spot. So 293 00:19:40,500 --> 00:19:44,160 they're flying planes. Oh, and did I did I mention perhaps that 294 00:19:44,910 --> 00:19:51,630 to Arabian owned private 740 sevens were allowed to take off 295 00:19:51,630 --> 00:19:58,290 and go home? Go ahead. You know, it's always like that, just like 296 00:19:58,290 --> 00:20:03,750 I'm not 911 No one In fly except a couple of Arab guys, the pope 297 00:20:03,780 --> 00:20:08,040 gladly took to the skies from Rome. Now granted that Rome is a 298 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:11,730 little bit south of the purported danger area, when he 299 00:20:11,730 --> 00:20:16,230 went off to go join the Knights of Malta, on his on his flight. 300 00:20:17,430 --> 00:20:23,490 And everywhere I keep reading more and more reports of they're 301 00:20:23,490 --> 00:20:28,170 just not really being any clouds that anyone can see. And so how 302 00:20:28,170 --> 00:20:32,730 dangerous can this be? And there's like no end in sight, no 303 00:20:32,730 --> 00:20:37,140 end in sight to this thing. So I'm just going to call it a 304 00:20:37,140 --> 00:20:44,430 hoax. I am it's a total hoax, it makes. So in Norway, you can't 305 00:20:44,430 --> 00:20:50,370 fly helicopters. They're even grounded. Those be you know, go 306 00:20:50,370 --> 00:20:52,770 look at the news and go watch helicopters landing and 307 00:20:52,770 --> 00:20:56,100 sandstorms in Iraq, or even the sandstorms they create 308 00:20:56,100 --> 00:21:01,980 themselves when they land. It's not quite as dangerous as is 309 00:21:01,980 --> 00:21:07,710 being portrayed. Yes, if you fly through the black cloud, then 310 00:21:07,710 --> 00:21:13,170 these particles can I guess they can actually melt or re melt 311 00:21:13,170 --> 00:21:16,830 inside jet engines and clog them up. And as all kinds of, you 312 00:21:16,830 --> 00:21:20,790 know, examples of nuts, I don't think anyone's actually crashed, 313 00:21:20,790 --> 00:21:25,020 they have had to lose altitude and restart the engines. And I 314 00:21:25,020 --> 00:21:28,590 think every single time that's happened, it's turned out okay. 315 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:33,840 But to shut down. European Aviation for now, we're not what 316 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:37,830 are we now in day five? By Thursday, Friday? So day four? 317 00:21:38,250 --> 00:21:40,500 Yeah, I thought they'd be back flying yesterday. 318 00:21:41,370 --> 00:21:45,060 So it probably won't happen until until Monday at the 319 00:21:45,060 --> 00:21:48,270 earliest. But from all the predictions they're handing out? 320 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:52,260 Well, you know, the thing is, you can go up, this is not a new 321 00:21:52,260 --> 00:21:57,270 technology. You can go up with a plane or anything you want with 322 00:21:57,270 --> 00:22:00,660 these various filtering devices that are used by the Air 323 00:22:00,660 --> 00:22:03,840 Pollution Control districts around the world. And they 324 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,320 gather anything that's in the air and particulate, mainly, 325 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,210 which would be what you're worried about here, which is 326 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:12,900 solid particles that are microscopic. And you can collect 327 00:22:12,900 --> 00:22:15,390 these things and fly him back down. And you can make a 328 00:22:15,390 --> 00:22:19,650 calculation on how many of these things per square mile of air 329 00:22:19,650 --> 00:22:23,880 there are and how potentially dangerous the situation would 330 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:27,840 be. I have heard that I've heard none of this. It's not an 331 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:31,470 unusual thing to do. But I haven't heard any reports back 332 00:22:31,530 --> 00:22:35,310 saying, yeah, we've filtered the air in this airspace, and 333 00:22:35,310 --> 00:22:38,640 there's nothing here, or that this light was just enough here 334 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,700 that make it slightly dangerous. I did neither one. It's just as 335 00:22:42,090 --> 00:22:44,670 the straight up, you know, we got somebody who just shut it 336 00:22:44,670 --> 00:22:49,650 down. And we got Mirage jets flying around in the stuff to 337 00:22:49,710 --> 00:22:51,900 bring down private planes. So you might be right. There may be 338 00:22:51,900 --> 00:22:54,480 some other thing at play here. And there is the railroad 339 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,850 strike, which I don't know if it ended yet. I'm not sure. 340 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,700 Well, let me just say a couple other things. The way that I 341 00:22:59,700 --> 00:23:05,460 understand volcanic ash to be measured is with laser. So 342 00:23:05,460 --> 00:23:08,490 there's a certain type of laser that you can shoot through, you 343 00:23:08,490 --> 00:23:11,280 know, whatever cloud they were able to do that. Yeah, and it 344 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,370 can measure the particles. But all of all of this apparently 345 00:23:14,370 --> 00:23:17,730 has been based upon computer models. Well, that's not good. 346 00:23:17,820 --> 00:23:22,500 Exactly. So you've got the, you know, these volcanic ash 347 00:23:22,890 --> 00:23:26,310 advisory centres, and they've got these more likely, it's 348 00:23:26,310 --> 00:23:29,040 probably running on Windows seven. So they've got these 349 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:32,280 computer models that say, Oh, you shouldn't fly but it's not 350 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:36,120 actual aviators who are saying this is dangerous. Now, there is 351 00:23:36,120 --> 00:23:39,660 an upside to all of this. And I've seen this mentioned all 352 00:23:39,660 --> 00:23:43,920 over the blogs and Twitter. It has been very nice not having 353 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:47,820 any chemtrails for a while. Everyone feels happy, we're 354 00:23:47,820 --> 00:23:48,510 upbeat. 355 00:23:49,530 --> 00:23:56,610 We're really the idea. It could be your well being through or to 356 00:23:56,610 --> 00:23:59,640 improve your well being by eliminating over Europe is a 357 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,910 plot it's a scheme by the counter intelligence groups now 358 00:24:02,910 --> 00:24:03,240 shut. 359 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:09,120 Yeah. You know what I'm telling you, this is at best being 360 00:24:09,120 --> 00:24:14,280 misused. And it's, I'm telling you it there is something 361 00:24:14,310 --> 00:24:16,920 entirely wrong about this, you have to understand what the 362 00:24:16,950 --> 00:24:21,180 economic impact is. It's not just 10s of 1000s of passengers 363 00:24:21,180 --> 00:24:24,960 who are stuck at European airports and foreign airports 364 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,350 not being able to to get in or out. I mean, there's freight 365 00:24:28,380 --> 00:24:33,960 there's mail there's so much stuff that is sent via air. And 366 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:38,550 I think I really think that this is going to be missed used to 367 00:24:38,550 --> 00:24:39,960 say you know, we really need 368 00:24:39,990 --> 00:24:43,020 you mean like it perhaps the FedEx shipments that are now 369 00:24:43,020 --> 00:24:47,610 backed up in Nashville and elsewhere that now you have just 370 00:24:47,610 --> 00:24:51,120 enough time for intelligence officers to finally go through 371 00:24:51,120 --> 00:24:53,340 all the stuff being shipped to one guy or another. 372 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:57,780 You're worse than I am. You are really bad. 373 00:24:57,870 --> 00:25:00,720 It gives you a lot of time. Hey, we gotta have a some more time. 374 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,990 We're gonna keep we're gonna keep us shut down for two more 375 00:25:03,990 --> 00:25:05,910 days. We got to find that package 376 00:25:06,180 --> 00:25:10,890 ahead hand me the stanley knife. I need to open up this box. 377 00:25:11,790 --> 00:25:16,830 Another one. This was addressed to the Queen. I am 378 00:25:16,830 --> 00:25:20,910 going to predict that this is going to be spun into a high 379 00:25:20,910 --> 00:25:25,020 speed rail is good. We need more of that we can't rely on 380 00:25:25,020 --> 00:25:28,950 aviation. And what if this thing keeps on blowing for another for 381 00:25:28,950 --> 00:25:29,760 another year 382 00:25:29,850 --> 00:25:32,910 late into the Netherland his neighbour goes off that's what I 383 00:25:32,910 --> 00:25:33,630 mean. It's uh, 384 00:25:33,630 --> 00:25:39,810 you know, and we've we've seen a consistent consistent attacks on 385 00:25:39,810 --> 00:25:44,400 aviation, you know, how much fun is it to fly? I mean, please, 386 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,550 with all the security and all the bullcrap it's no fun to fly, 387 00:25:47,550 --> 00:25:53,250 they make it unfriendly. By the way, Chinese government has 388 00:25:53,250 --> 00:25:56,760 contracted papers have been signed to build bullet trains in 389 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:57,660 California. 390 00:25:59,220 --> 00:26:00,750 Built by China. Yep. 391 00:26:02,100 --> 00:26:05,700 The US has looked to China for help building railroads ever 392 00:26:05,700 --> 00:26:08,370 since Chinese labourers lay down the tracks for the 393 00:26:08,370 --> 00:26:13,980 Transcontinental Railroad in the 1860s the Cooley slaves now. Now 394 00:26:13,980 --> 00:26:17,040 California hopes a partnership with the Middle Kingdom can do 395 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,380 for 21st century high speed rail. 396 00:26:19,980 --> 00:26:21,990 Well, actually rail is a scam. 397 00:26:22,199 --> 00:26:26,399 Well, that that would be this is exactly what I said. This is the 398 00:26:26,399 --> 00:26:29,819 skin you know, they're talking about a high speed bullet train 399 00:26:29,999 --> 00:26:35,399 from China to London. I'm not kidding. 400 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,530 Like a, like an accident waiting to happen. You know, when 401 00:26:40,530 --> 00:26:43,080 you say to someone, you know, I had dinner last night with a 402 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,090 couple of people who say, you know, although I think that 403 00:26:45,090 --> 00:26:47,610 they're really just trying to make trains more popular, which 404 00:26:47,610 --> 00:26:50,070 of course would, you know, it's just another way to get 405 00:26:50,070 --> 00:26:52,800 everybody back to work. Not saying that's necessarily a bad 406 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,740 thing. But everyone will say, you know, I would rather take 407 00:26:55,740 --> 00:26:58,950 the train. I'm like, oh, yeah, ever seen a train wreck? But you 408 00:26:58,950 --> 00:27:02,040 know, no one gives a shit, right? When you say that? The 409 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,880 Oh, the train sounds much safer. I'd much rather take the train. 410 00:27:06,780 --> 00:27:09,600 As it takes two days. They're gonna do this high speed rail 411 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,120 between Los Angeles and San Francisco and I looked at the 412 00:27:12,120 --> 00:27:16,740 plans, it's going to take you three hours. It's a 45 minute 413 00:27:16,740 --> 00:27:22,110 flight. It takes it's not going to be cheaper. You can't do it 414 00:27:22,110 --> 00:27:25,080 for less than Virgin America. 75 bucks. 415 00:27:26,970 --> 00:27:30,420 No, it's not going to be cheaper. So 75 you can sometimes 416 00:27:30,420 --> 00:27:33,690 get $59 on that flight? No, it's going to be really all you have 417 00:27:33,690 --> 00:27:36,720 to do. Here's all you have to do is look at the Amtrak because I 418 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,680 have always considered taking this thing. The Amtrak train 419 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:45,870 from Emeryville, Oakland, San Francisco, wherever you want to 420 00:27:45,870 --> 00:27:50,460 call it to advertising, whatever you want to call it, all the way 421 00:27:50,460 --> 00:27:56,190 up to Seattle. And you have to take a sleeper because it's a 24 422 00:27:56,190 --> 00:28:00,660 hour trip. You can drive from San Francisco to Seattle and 423 00:28:00,660 --> 00:28:05,130 about 14 to 15 hours max that's what's stopping and you know, 424 00:28:05,340 --> 00:28:11,370 taking a crap and eating dinner and the train takes 24 425 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,760 hours I know it's a step backwards. It's Atlas Shrugged, 426 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:15,900 reinvigorated. 427 00:28:19,650 --> 00:28:23,280 There they're what you just hard up for doing the Atlas Shrugged 428 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:24,840 thing and at any opportunity. Well, 429 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,990 it's a tiger trans Continental, that's what they're building 430 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,130 is trans Continental. But anyway, the point is I, when I'm 431 00:28:32,130 --> 00:28:35,610 in Europe, I like to take the train because it's a for one 432 00:28:35,610 --> 00:28:38,580 thing the cities are, it's amenable for trade for trains 433 00:28:38,580 --> 00:28:40,950 because there's a bunch of packed in cities, the United 434 00:28:40,950 --> 00:28:45,360 States is not amenable in Europe is not 400 miles between every 435 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,540 little city. It's you know, they're all over the place. It's 436 00:28:48,540 --> 00:28:52,470 doable. Yeah, what I mean, the whole size of Holland isn't even 437 00:28:52,470 --> 00:28:56,670 400 miles wide. What is it anyways, like 40 438 00:28:58,050 --> 00:28:59,520 that's a little more than 40. 439 00:29:01,020 --> 00:29:04,230 So you can sort of train make sense. And but here it doesn't 440 00:29:04,230 --> 00:29:07,740 make any sense. We have too many wide open spaces. And so it's 441 00:29:07,740 --> 00:29:10,110 the easiest thing to do is to fly and I think anyone who 442 00:29:10,110 --> 00:29:12,900 travels around the world or travels a lot knows this and 443 00:29:13,020 --> 00:29:15,660 then knows the impracticality of these trains or even if you've 444 00:29:15,660 --> 00:29:19,410 you've you've priced them out, I have taken the train a number of 445 00:29:19,410 --> 00:29:22,560 times I've taken some fancy trains. I took the crescent from 446 00:29:22,950 --> 00:29:26,280 Washington DC to Atlanta, Georgia one year, because I was 447 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,590 in New York or I was in Washington DC I guess was in 448 00:29:28,590 --> 00:29:33,360 Washington DC and I had to go to Comdex in Atlanta and I couldn't 449 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,390 really get a room it was cheaper to take the train as slow as it 450 00:29:36,390 --> 00:29:39,600 was. But because this was a this was a practical consideration. 451 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,510 I'd have spent the night in Washington DC which was going to 452 00:29:42,510 --> 00:29:46,800 cost me like 100 bucks. The train over the overnight or 453 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:52,020 sleeper car plus the cost of the flight offset by the cost of the 454 00:29:52,020 --> 00:29:55,620 flight was about 25 bucks cheaper and I slept in the John 455 00:29:55,620 --> 00:29:58,320 the train save the hotel and that got in the next morning in 456 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,260 Atlanta, but it was a long night. long trip, but it was 457 00:30:01,260 --> 00:30:02,970 kind of amusing and you got fed. 458 00:30:03,270 --> 00:30:07,020 And people always say, well, at least you'll see something. At 459 00:30:07,020 --> 00:30:08,910 least they'll see something of the landscape. 460 00:30:09,030 --> 00:30:09,930 It was night. 461 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,260 Yeah, exactly. If they've seen some hookers on board, I'd be 462 00:30:13,500 --> 00:30:14,250 inclined. 463 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,800 Yeah, though, that's not happening anytime soon. But 464 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:21,090 anyway, so in Europe, I, I do like to look at the scenery on a 465 00:30:21,090 --> 00:30:23,700 regular train of the high speed train the irony of those you 466 00:30:23,700 --> 00:30:25,860 don't see anything because they're in a trench. 467 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,880 Exactly. Or in a trench or in a trench. 468 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,760 And so they put them in a trench. So the cars won't 469 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,100 interfere with the passage and people who had kids can't throw 470 00:30:35,100 --> 00:30:38,070 rocks at him because in the United States, can you imagine? 471 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:44,490 Do you think you can hit it Billy I mean, everywhere in the 472 00:30:44,490 --> 00:30:47,400 world the car carriers have cars on them in the United States 473 00:30:47,430 --> 00:30:51,120 covered with first aid recovery with with like plastic now 474 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,400 they're covered with steel. So the cars are inside, because 475 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,640 kids all over the country, you know, in the middle of nowhere 476 00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,480 USA, throw rocks because Oh, look at the Mercedes hit the 477 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:07,050 Mercedes, all raw, good jobs. Busted windows. So I mean, this, 478 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,050 you have to put these things in a trench. I mean, in Europe, 479 00:31:10,050 --> 00:31:12,510 they do it for not because of the kids like they would have to 480 00:31:12,510 --> 00:31:16,080 hear, but they just do it because they like to speed down 481 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:16,530 there. They don't. 482 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:25,440 Sorry. Any reason to play as the Osborne is good enough, right? 483 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:31,320 Pretty much anyway. So let me just get me when boring is to 484 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:35,520 somebody to tell them. I'm so bored. Now. I go from hand over 485 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:41,370 to Croatia, occasionally on the train. And when I go to cc bit, 486 00:31:41,370 --> 00:31:45,750 I'll go to visit my publisher in Croatia so I could fly but I 487 00:31:45,750 --> 00:31:48,480 rather take the train because it's a good day trip. It takes 488 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,090 Oh, it takes like nine hours it would take me about a half an 489 00:31:51,090 --> 00:31:54,510 hour to fly. But I get a good view. And it's kind of relaxing. 490 00:31:54,510 --> 00:31:56,910 I don't mind doing it. But I don't see it working in the 491 00:31:56,910 --> 00:31:59,070 United States under any circumstances except along the 492 00:31:59,070 --> 00:32:01,230 eastern seaboard between Philadelphia, Boston, 493 00:32:01,230 --> 00:32:02,460 Washington, DC and New York. 494 00:32:03,570 --> 00:32:08,520 So there's one more theory I have for you today. And I've not 495 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:12,450 heard if it has been delayed or not due to the volcanic ash 496 00:32:12,450 --> 00:32:20,010 cloud. Today, launching from Cape Canaveral, the x 37 B space 497 00:32:20,010 --> 00:32:24,330 vehicle. Have you heard about this little ditty John? 498 00:32:24,660 --> 00:32:27,510 Yeah, that's supposed to be our next generation. Yeah, 499 00:32:27,540 --> 00:32:32,940 well, it's an Air Force machine. It looks kind of like, it looks 500 00:32:32,940 --> 00:32:36,570 like a mini Space Shuttle with like, teeny wings. Of course, 501 00:32:36,570 --> 00:32:41,250 it's quite secretive. It has a payload bay. And it's very 502 00:32:41,250 --> 00:32:44,550 unclear if there's anything or what would be in the payload bay 503 00:32:44,550 --> 00:32:46,440 or sorry, the experiment Bay. 504 00:32:46,710 --> 00:32:49,110 They don't yeah, it just not as big as the other one. So it's 505 00:32:49,110 --> 00:32:49,680 not gonna hold 506 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:54,750 small, it's, well, you don't need much. So maybe they just 507 00:32:54,750 --> 00:33:00,810 wanted to clear skies for this thing. Let's log out Eric comes 508 00:33:02,190 --> 00:33:06,990 to control. I've just said, Look, we're by Thursday show I 509 00:33:06,990 --> 00:33:10,500 guarantee you will know a hell of a lot more. Something is up, 510 00:33:10,650 --> 00:33:15,090 aviators are getting pissed off. This was this was a government 511 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:22,380 controlled operation, not an aviation shutdown. aviators did 512 00:33:22,380 --> 00:33:25,050 not call for this no aviator saying, Oh, it's really 513 00:33:25,050 --> 00:33:30,390 dangerous. This blue sky blue, clear sky beautiful weather. Do 514 00:33:30,390 --> 00:33:34,470 you even keep prop planes at lower altitude out of the sky? 515 00:33:34,980 --> 00:33:37,260 You know, can you imagine how great it would have been if they 516 00:33:37,260 --> 00:33:40,620 just said, Alright, we're gonna let all general aviation anyone 517 00:33:40,620 --> 00:33:43,500 who can fly VFR in this beautiful weather you can, you 518 00:33:43,500 --> 00:33:46,890 know, I know guys who've got twin engine props turbo turbo 519 00:33:46,890 --> 00:33:49,080 prowess with maybe maybe that will be a problem. But at low 520 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,920 altitude, they can take 10 passengers, we could have really 521 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:54,060 done a lot of good. 522 00:33:56,010 --> 00:34:00,090 So I'm thinking you what you want is one of these you want a 523 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,330 just to see what would happen because then you don't want to 524 00:34:03,330 --> 00:34:06,090 do it with a person. So you have to have a robotic some plane 525 00:34:06,090 --> 00:34:09,480 that you could control remote control using remote control 526 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,570 like you would with a with a predator. So you take off like a 527 00:34:12,570 --> 00:34:15,720 little Piper Cub and off of a landing strip in France. 528 00:34:17,340 --> 00:34:19,680 I know what'll happen. I know it wasn't me. Let me know 529 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,920 if he's got either scenario then you tell me all right. You put a 530 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,310 crash test dummy and so it looks like somebody's flying the plane 531 00:34:26,790 --> 00:34:30,300 and you're flying to thing and you're only really has one 532 00:34:30,300 --> 00:34:32,850 function is that when the jets come by and they stand they 533 00:34:32,850 --> 00:34:37,470 start pointing down, get down, get down. I robotic hand comes 534 00:34:37,470 --> 00:34:38,970 up and flips them off. 535 00:34:39,659 --> 00:34:43,889 So the Wing Commander actually told me, he says the Mirage 536 00:34:43,889 --> 00:34:48,089 guys, he says they're really nice once and then when you 537 00:34:48,089 --> 00:34:52,139 don't comply, the next thing they do is they put their wings 538 00:34:52,169 --> 00:34:55,349 underneath yours and we'll and we'll hit upwards so they'll 539 00:34:55,349 --> 00:34:59,609 start banging your wings with their Mirage wings and then 540 00:34:59,609 --> 00:35:02,339 they'll get in front of you and turn on the afterburner. He 541 00:35:02,339 --> 00:35:05,639 says, melt you're playing you want and that's what I said. I 542 00:35:05,639 --> 00:35:08,999 said, No, no, you won't melt but you will land bases. When that 543 00:35:08,999 --> 00:35:11,789 happens when one of those mirages turns on the afterburner 544 00:35:11,819 --> 00:35:15,899 in your face. When they hit you in the face, no, you will 545 00:35:15,899 --> 00:35:18,419 definitely land. So that's what's going on. But these guys 546 00:35:18,419 --> 00:35:21,509 are nasty. You can imagine the wing underneath yours going 547 00:35:21,509 --> 00:35:26,399 tick, tick, tick, tick, you know, that's frightening. If you 548 00:35:26,399 --> 00:35:29,429 don't want any of that, any of it. 549 00:35:29,849 --> 00:35:31,739 Oops, not showing off. Hey, 550 00:35:31,739 --> 00:35:35,759 I only have one just moving along here since we really don't 551 00:35:35,759 --> 00:35:40,859 have any information other than it's weird. I have one little 552 00:35:40,859 --> 00:35:45,449 ditty on poppies, for today's early morning service. And it 553 00:35:45,449 --> 00:35:49,529 was so funny. When I heard this, someone sent this clip to me 554 00:35:49,529 --> 00:35:55,319 from things the BBC. This is actually a very sad case of 555 00:35:55,379 --> 00:36:03,179 British servicemen who's in Afghanistan Whose vehicle was 556 00:36:03,209 --> 00:36:07,499 blown up by an AI not an anti tank mine, not an IED been anti 557 00:36:07,499 --> 00:36:12,539 tank mine. But listen to what he says about the Afghan police, 558 00:36:12,989 --> 00:36:15,689 the soldiers and it's also been that big round about protection 559 00:36:15,689 --> 00:36:19,139 on other vehicles used by the armed forces and kit as well. 560 00:36:19,499 --> 00:36:21,629 Let's go to Bradford and Charlotte Mazumdar, who's been 561 00:36:21,629 --> 00:36:24,059 talking to one former soldier, Carl Klaus. 562 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:28,050 So I'm just in cars living room at the moment, massive 50 inch 563 00:36:28,050 --> 00:36:31,470 Telly on one side of the room. And as a walk to the other side, 564 00:36:31,470 --> 00:36:36,060 there's a picture of Carl and his mates, smiling sat around on 565 00:36:36,060 --> 00:36:39,210 their armoured vehicle. This though was taken just a few 566 00:36:39,210 --> 00:36:43,440 hours before Carl's life changed forever. Carl, thanks for having 567 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:47,370 us over today. Yes, fine. So just start by telling us what 568 00:36:47,370 --> 00:36:48,660 happened to you that day. 569 00:36:49,530 --> 00:36:54,480 Our vehicle antitank mine flipped on its right inside. I 570 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:58,860 suffered over 20 injuries. And eventually, one of them resulted 571 00:36:58,860 --> 00:37:01,980 in my left leg after being treated below the knee. 572 00:37:02,099 --> 00:37:04,139 So how's life changed for you since then, 573 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:08,370 by the way, great question. Well, the walk in sucks bitch. 574 00:37:11,220 --> 00:37:11,910 Here comes 575 00:37:12,389 --> 00:37:18,299 run, struggle to walk up and down hills. Going out on 576 00:37:18,299 --> 00:37:21,689 weekends going to nightclubs playing sport, doing everything 577 00:37:21,689 --> 00:37:25,919 that 21 year olds do. And then all that came to a hole. 578 00:37:26,340 --> 00:37:29,130 As I'm sure you know, a lot has been said hasn't it about 579 00:37:29,130 --> 00:37:32,670 whether troops are given good enough kit? Do you think they 580 00:37:32,670 --> 00:37:32,880 are? 581 00:37:33,150 --> 00:37:36,780 Well, the vehicle I was in when when we hit the mine, the only 582 00:37:36,780 --> 00:37:40,140 armour basically is was a five mil belly plate on the wick, 583 00:37:40,230 --> 00:37:43,050 which obviously to an anti tank mine is nothing if I was in a 584 00:37:43,050 --> 00:37:46,140 mastiff, I could safely say that I'll be talking to you now with 585 00:37:46,140 --> 00:37:50,370 two legs, who promised vehicles new vehicle, just let down time 586 00:37:50,370 --> 00:37:51,750 after time after time again, 587 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,120 obviously the general election is coming up in a matter of 588 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:58,410 weeks. What do you think whoever gets into government should do 589 00:37:58,410 --> 00:37:59,310 about Afghanistan? 590 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,670 I'd pull out when I was on convoy in Afghanistan. The 591 00:38:02,730 --> 00:38:05,280 Afghan police were on how to win. We're going to check. There 592 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,700 you go. Did you hear it? Yeah. The 593 00:38:08,699 --> 00:38:11,129 Afghan police are on heroin, heroin, heroin. 594 00:38:12,119 --> 00:38:19,619 They are stoned. Yeah. But it's just like, a shocker. Lost over 595 00:38:19,649 --> 00:38:22,439 it's like, oh, they're on okay. That's no 596 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:26,010 good. I know. They already knows how to glom on to the good, you 597 00:38:26,010 --> 00:38:29,280 know, reporters today, especially the broadcast 598 00:38:29,310 --> 00:38:32,460 journalist they can't they they're so self absorbed or some 599 00:38:32,460 --> 00:38:34,620 they're not listening. They don't hear these these little 600 00:38:34,620 --> 00:38:40,530 comments that you would normally jump on, say what they want and 601 00:38:40,530 --> 00:38:43,740 then you'd go right into that form of questioning. You started 602 00:38:43,740 --> 00:38:45,870 asking about the poppies know how they get the heroin. Where's 603 00:38:45,870 --> 00:38:48,960 the heroin? You'd go right into it, but they don't even hear it. 604 00:38:48,990 --> 00:38:49,710 It's weird. 605 00:38:54,090 --> 00:38:57,570 I'm just trying to clear up a couple things right off the bat. 606 00:38:57,570 --> 00:39:02,190 You know what we've been talking about? How naked is now porn? 607 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:04,620 And so, 608 00:39:04,980 --> 00:39:08,340 three definitions of common day usage is right, so we're seeing 609 00:39:08,340 --> 00:39:08,940 the bar. It's 610 00:39:08,940 --> 00:39:13,800 getting really really bad. This is from New York geek, Newspeak 611 00:39:13,830 --> 00:39:19,710 AI doublespeak THE NEW SPEAKER doublespeak whatever CNN 612 00:39:19,710 --> 00:39:24,510 releases a report titled porn for the blind porn for the bad 613 00:39:24,510 --> 00:39:27,090 guy. I saw that I'll just play a little bit of it since you've 614 00:39:27,090 --> 00:39:27,600 seen it. 615 00:39:27,929 --> 00:39:31,319 There are plenty of racy pictures for people who can see 616 00:39:31,349 --> 00:39:35,279 but if you're blind, this may be the only way to cop a feel. 617 00:39:35,999 --> 00:39:40,979 White raised images of naked bodies with Braille descriptions 618 00:39:40,979 --> 00:39:45,089 alongside some are calling it porn for the blind. There you 619 00:39:45,089 --> 00:39:45,419 go. 620 00:39:45,540 --> 00:39:48,330 So there's basically this braille book and they've got 621 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,570 people naked, you know, actually artistic pictures of people 622 00:39:51,570 --> 00:39:55,920 naked. And this whole report is about porn for the blind porn, 623 00:39:55,950 --> 00:39:59,310 does it does it arouse you does it or does it make you horny? 624 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,210 Hey scrase Where'd 625 00:40:03,209 --> 00:40:04,379 you get that voice? 626 00:40:05,219 --> 00:40:09,509 Does it make your horny? That's good. Thank you. 627 00:40:09,689 --> 00:40:10,559 That's more. 628 00:40:10,589 --> 00:40:11,669 That's how I talked to Mickey. 629 00:40:11,849 --> 00:40:14,099 Does it make that? That's what I heard? Yes. 630 00:40:14,789 --> 00:40:22,499 Yeah, it really works by the way it apparently a huge turn on Oh 631 00:40:22,499 --> 00:40:23,039 man. 632 00:40:23,070 --> 00:40:28,170 Yeah, your idea the lack of Chem Chem Trails is helping you out. 633 00:40:28,290 --> 00:40:31,980 Yeah. So. So are we done with this topic? 634 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,470 Yeah. Do you want to do Haiti now or later? Because that's my 635 00:40:34,470 --> 00:40:35,280 other good one. 636 00:40:35,670 --> 00:40:39,990 Oh, well, let's see how we doing. You can do it. Now. If 637 00:40:39,990 --> 00:40:42,900 you I mean, what what's going on in Haiti? That's, besides the 638 00:40:43,410 --> 00:40:44,730 going scam? Well, the 639 00:40:44,730 --> 00:40:49,200 scam, the scam does continue. I'll give you three news 640 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,830 articles. And then I'll play a little bit of a clip, which is 641 00:40:52,830 --> 00:40:57,750 just too funny. So first of all, Bill Clinton is downplaying the 642 00:40:57,750 --> 00:41:00,900 possibility of corruption sidetracking, rebuilding an 643 00:41:00,900 --> 00:41:04,410 earthquake devastated Haiti. He keeps speaking at these 644 00:41:04,410 --> 00:41:08,100 conferences where they're going to decide how to spend the $8 645 00:41:08,100 --> 00:41:11,850 billion to rebuild it. He had a meeting at the University of 646 00:41:11,850 --> 00:41:15,660 Miami with the Clinton Global Initiative. We know one thing 647 00:41:15,660 --> 00:41:17,910 for sure, if you like the gunfight that's going on in 648 00:41:17,910 --> 00:41:21,480 Northwest Mexico, you'll love Haiti 10 years from now, if 649 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:25,140 that's what thrills, yeah, this horrible chaos from Monterrey to 650 00:41:25,140 --> 00:41:28,530 the border, you will just love Haiti if you walk away from it. 651 00:41:28,620 --> 00:41:33,270 So now it's justifying the total takeover of, of the country. 652 00:41:34,620 --> 00:41:41,580 Then Clinton and Bush and I wish I had audio from this, maybe 653 00:41:41,580 --> 00:41:46,920 someone can find it for me. Like, it was a letter to the 654 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,710 Democratic and Republican leaders, but it will be so funny 655 00:41:49,710 --> 00:41:54,270 as a sound drop provided to the Associated Press. The CIA, the 656 00:41:54,270 --> 00:41:59,550 friends of the CIA, or the former president say, Please buy 657 00:41:59,550 --> 00:42:04,350 clothes from Haiti. You know, there's people who work for $3 a 658 00:42:04,350 --> 00:42:09,240 day, please buy clothes from Haiti. They need help. Don't 659 00:42:09,240 --> 00:42:14,730 send your cash by their clothes. Unbelievable. That is pretty 660 00:42:14,730 --> 00:42:20,220 bad. And then a Snore, snore. One of our producers was 661 00:42:20,220 --> 00:42:24,180 listening to a nationals game the other day for the Giants San 662 00:42:24,180 --> 00:42:26,640 Francisco Giants, even though he's Norwegian, he's a big 663 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:31,170 Giants fan. And he here he heard says he heard an ad which we 664 00:42:31,170 --> 00:42:33,810 have to find. I'd only got the email this morning. I didn't 665 00:42:33,810 --> 00:42:37,800 have time to research it. Quote, all of April month is Haiti 666 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:45,570 toothbrush donation month. What? What, it's Haiti toothbrush 667 00:42:45,570 --> 00:42:50,490 donation month, send us send us your toothbrush, I don't 668 00:42:50,490 --> 00:42:55,680 understand. The thing is out of control, Shyster show up and 669 00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:59,100 take advantage of people's goodwill and generosity. So then 670 00:42:59,100 --> 00:43:02,700 the Red Cross gets put on the spot. The Red Cross, of course, 671 00:43:03,060 --> 00:43:06,300 you know, how am I don't know how many millions went to the 672 00:43:06,300 --> 00:43:10,320 Red Cross to help Haiti. And of course, the Red Cross is like, 673 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:14,520 if you look at the video that or the sparse video that is showing 674 00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:23,340 up from Haiti, ominously absent, is Red Cross. So here is one of 675 00:43:23,340 --> 00:43:27,030 the eight elitist bitches from the Red Cross, who's sitting in 676 00:43:27,030 --> 00:43:32,430 her mahogany office, and listen to what she has to say. She's 677 00:43:32,430 --> 00:43:36,450 president, Gail McGovern, why people are saying they don't see 678 00:43:36,450 --> 00:43:40,380 the red cross on the ground in Haiti. Go ahead, Gail, want to 679 00:43:40,380 --> 00:43:41,340 tell us 680 00:43:42,900 --> 00:43:47,790 that it would have been so easy for us to send hordes of 681 00:43:47,790 --> 00:43:51,120 volunteers to Haiti, and then people would see us on the 682 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:51,600 ground. 683 00:43:52,049 --> 00:43:55,259 But why bother when we can just keep the money, but it will 684 00:43:55,259 --> 00:43:56,459 create chaos 685 00:43:56,460 --> 00:44:00,060 for so many reasons. First of all, there is no shortage of 686 00:44:00,060 --> 00:44:03,150 people that would like to go and when I made the two trips to 687 00:44:03,150 --> 00:44:05,520 Haiti, frankly, I wanted to stay and help. 688 00:44:05,579 --> 00:44:09,749 No, but I but I had a luncheon. I couldn't stay. It was 689 00:44:09,749 --> 00:44:12,239 impossible. I wanted to help but it had to leave. 690 00:44:12,420 --> 00:44:15,840 But the problem is, every person that is there is going to 691 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:19,230 require food. Every person that is there is going to require 692 00:44:19,230 --> 00:44:24,510 shelter. And it's just creating more mouths to feed. And as it 693 00:44:24,510 --> 00:44:28,500 turns out, we would have to fly people from all over the United 694 00:44:28,500 --> 00:44:28,950 States 695 00:44:28,950 --> 00:44:31,470 into these things called aeroplanes. It's really 696 00:44:31,470 --> 00:44:32,190 difficult. 697 00:44:32,670 --> 00:44:35,430 And that is not a good use of our donors dollars. 698 00:44:35,460 --> 00:44:39,750 No, no, no, no, we need to invest that into our office and 699 00:44:39,750 --> 00:44:43,170 into our corporate fleet. Can you believe what this woman is 700 00:44:43,170 --> 00:44:43,890 saying? 701 00:44:43,949 --> 00:44:46,769 She's unbelievable and she and she does not stop. 702 00:44:47,730 --> 00:44:52,890 What we're doing instead is we have a core group of American 703 00:44:52,890 --> 00:44:56,250 Red Cross employees there in Haiti that are helping with 704 00:44:56,250 --> 00:44:59,640 material logistics ensuring that trucks are being loaded with 705 00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:03,810 supplies. eyes. And then we are relying on the Haitian red cross 706 00:45:03,810 --> 00:45:08,610 the 10s of 1000s, of Haitian Red Cross volunteers to distribute 707 00:45:08,610 --> 00:45:09,180 the food. 708 00:45:09,299 --> 00:45:13,649 So I have another YouTube video, which unfortunately has no sound 709 00:45:13,649 --> 00:45:19,349 and it's these red cross operatives on the ground. And 710 00:45:19,349 --> 00:45:22,409 you literally see the guys putting on like these red cross 711 00:45:22,409 --> 00:45:28,529 like, you know, plastic vests, Hey, your red cross now, okay? 712 00:45:28,889 --> 00:45:31,529 And you see them setting up tents. And it's the funniest 713 00:45:31,529 --> 00:45:33,869 thing because they're like, they're hammering pegs into the 714 00:45:33,869 --> 00:45:37,079 ground, the hammering on their hands, they're missing the pigs. 715 00:45:37,259 --> 00:45:40,079 It's like a bunch of boneheads, they don't have anyone on the 716 00:45:40,079 --> 00:45:42,959 ground, this woman is full of crap, she's lying. 717 00:45:42,989 --> 00:45:46,769 And this has a lot of advantages to it. First of all, they speak 718 00:45:46,769 --> 00:45:50,369 Creole. Second of all, they know the countryside, third of all 719 00:45:50,369 --> 00:45:54,359 creates fewer mouths to feed. And very importantly, it's 720 00:45:54,359 --> 00:45:57,449 psychologically empowering. This isn't our 721 00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,620 John, we need to psychologically empower the poor Haitians who 722 00:46:01,620 --> 00:46:07,440 are about to be washed away. Wow, is this incredible or what? 723 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,420 I don't think psychological empowerment is a top priority at 724 00:46:12,420 --> 00:46:15,720 the moment. My leg, 725 00:46:16,619 --> 00:46:17,879 let me empower you. 726 00:46:17,909 --> 00:46:21,899 We have to be very respectful of the people that live there and 727 00:46:21,899 --> 00:46:25,019 respectful of our counterparts that make up the Haitian Red 728 00:46:25,019 --> 00:46:29,279 Cross. And we want to make sure that when we leave that there is 729 00:46:29,279 --> 00:46:33,599 a thriving sustainable Haitian Red Cross to help the people of 730 00:46:33,599 --> 00:46:33,989 Haiti. 731 00:46:34,019 --> 00:46:36,479 Wait a minute, I thought there was already 10,000 people there 732 00:46:36,479 --> 00:46:38,909 who are already thriving in their word they're doing theirs 733 00:46:38,909 --> 00:46:44,249 does your doublespeak unbelievable, so why not put the 734 00:46:44,249 --> 00:46:47,609 Red Cross logo on all of your supplies? The next question is, 735 00:46:47,609 --> 00:46:50,129 well, I think that's a very good question, you could identify 736 00:46:50,129 --> 00:46:53,249 that your money's actually going there and is being 737 00:46:53,460 --> 00:46:57,090 I have heard from people that have been on the ground in Haiti 738 00:46:57,090 --> 00:47:00,720 that they don't see evidence of the American Red Cross. And 739 00:47:00,750 --> 00:47:04,140 there's actually a very good reason for that. They're 740 00:47:04,140 --> 00:47:09,930 probably seeing our tents are tarps, our food and supplies and 741 00:47:09,930 --> 00:47:14,430 emergency relief kids wherever they go. But we have not chosen 742 00:47:14,430 --> 00:47:19,380 to slap our brand on all that supplies and on the tents and on 743 00:47:19,410 --> 00:47:22,920 on the tarps. And the reason is we didn't want to hold up 744 00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:28,710 sending relief items into Haiti and put the logo on it that eats 745 00:47:28,710 --> 00:47:29,730 up time and 746 00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:42,300 it eats up time. She was there first she says she was there 747 00:47:42,300 --> 00:47:44,460 then I've heard from people they're in 748 00:47:44,459 --> 00:47:48,449 a crisis like is what is happening in Haiti. We want to 749 00:47:48,449 --> 00:47:51,719 descend things as quickly as possible and get it on the 750 00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:56,369 ground there for relief. Anything is putting our logo on 751 00:47:56,669 --> 00:48:01,619 people's temporary homes. It just doesn't feel right. And we 752 00:48:01,619 --> 00:48:02,729 are all about 753 00:48:02,730 --> 00:48:07,260 meanwhile, she's wearing a red cross brooch. encrusted with 754 00:48:07,260 --> 00:48:08,040 diamonds. 755 00:48:08,070 --> 00:48:09,300 She is yes, she's 756 00:48:09,300 --> 00:48:10,800 wearing a red cross brooch. 757 00:48:11,910 --> 00:48:12,990 encrusted with diamonds. 758 00:48:14,039 --> 00:48:14,849 Looks like it. 759 00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:18,510 People in Haiti have what they need, not only physically but 760 00:48:18,510 --> 00:48:22,200 also psychologically. So that's why we elected not to brand 761 00:48:22,230 --> 00:48:26,310 everything that's that's out there. But I can assure you that 762 00:48:26,340 --> 00:48:28,770 our presence is being felt by the people of Haiti. 763 00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:35,400 Yeah, the lack of it. That's what a blood a bunch of 764 00:48:35,430 --> 00:48:37,830 bullcrap. And she's not like she's saying that we're, you 765 00:48:37,830 --> 00:48:40,680 know, our money is going to these people, if they kept the 766 00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:41,670 money. 767 00:48:42,420 --> 00:48:44,910 You know, there was a good week, I think it was on 60 minutes. I 768 00:48:44,910 --> 00:48:47,070 can't remember which and I don't know if I have the clip. I know 769 00:48:47,070 --> 00:48:50,430 I don't have an audio clip this week. They were showing where 770 00:48:50,430 --> 00:48:53,100 they're moving a lot, you know, they're putting up tent cities. 771 00:48:53,580 --> 00:48:57,420 But instead of putting up anywhere near the town of Port 772 00:48:57,420 --> 00:48:59,910 au Prince, they've got them two or three miles away where 773 00:48:59,910 --> 00:49:02,340 there's no supplies, there's no water, there's nothing in there 774 00:49:02,340 --> 00:49:05,160 putting these tents up. And they went on and show it and the 775 00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,530 people are complaining so what are we supposed to do out here? 776 00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,250 They're not gonna want to go they're staying away to go right 777 00:49:11,250 --> 00:49:13,920 they should just screw this and so they'd rather not be there 778 00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:18,480 but meanwhile, they discover there's all kinds of open space 779 00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,990 or in and around portal prisoners needs to be cleared 780 00:49:21,990 --> 00:49:27,270 and they're doing that and just putting up un offices United 781 00:49:27,270 --> 00:49:29,820 Nations putting in really nice trailers and they showed it they 782 00:49:29,820 --> 00:49:35,040 say power supplies and and you know, generators and trailers 783 00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:42,510 and you know, eggs where you can take the people and get them to 784 00:49:42,510 --> 00:49:44,550 get mugged get them out of here. There in a way. 785 00:49:46,409 --> 00:49:51,059 It's just unbelievable. It's just fucking believable. It 786 00:49:51,059 --> 00:49:55,619 drives me nuts. The people that just waiting from the die Yeah. 787 00:49:56,129 --> 00:50:00,629 What will it be John? Two, three weeks, maybe 1000s die. I'm from 788 00:50:00,629 --> 00:50:04,739 rain floods in Haiti. And we'll be like, Ah, if only we could 789 00:50:04,739 --> 00:50:07,979 gotten to him sooner. We really tried. 790 00:50:08,130 --> 00:50:10,680 I would like anybody out there listening to this show who 791 00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:14,820 catches local reports because we only get a few. And we do get 792 00:50:14,820 --> 00:50:19,350 them. But if you get a local reporter that happens to give 793 00:50:19,350 --> 00:50:22,320 one of these reports from Haiti, which says, you know, hey, I 794 00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:25,260 don't see any red cross or anything like that, if you can 795 00:50:25,260 --> 00:50:28,230 find some way to make a clip, and I would advise, of course, 796 00:50:28,230 --> 00:50:35,130 everybody to own a zoom, h2 recorder, which you can hook to 797 00:50:35,130 --> 00:50:39,390 your television set and make mp3 is right from the from the audio 798 00:50:39,390 --> 00:50:42,120 for you without having to go through a miserable experience. 799 00:50:42,540 --> 00:50:46,620 And very inexpensive in handy. You can also use them to bootleg 800 00:50:46,620 --> 00:50:50,220 rock concerts. Yeah. Cool. 801 00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:56,939 Yeah, that's that's actually I use my iPhone memo recorder. It 802 00:50:56,939 --> 00:51:00,539 works pretty well. Doesn't sound too crappy. It's it's not that 803 00:51:00,539 --> 00:51:04,259 much worse than a line recording. Pretty good. Oh, 804 00:51:05,549 --> 00:51:13,079 there we go. As usual, it's time to lose John. Yeah, stream is 805 00:51:13,079 --> 00:51:14,069 backup. Okay. 806 00:51:14,969 --> 00:51:17,789 You know that Time Warner Cable thing you've got stinks. 807 00:51:18,570 --> 00:51:21,540 You know, it's the weirdest thing because I have all kinds 808 00:51:21,540 --> 00:51:25,110 of network monitoring. And it literally it just drops out. 809 00:51:25,140 --> 00:51:28,710 They just just disconnects and it's the router disconnecting 810 00:51:28,710 --> 00:51:32,100 from the entire network. And it's, it's one of 811 00:51:32,100 --> 00:51:34,200 the ones you get a different router. Maybe it's your router. 812 00:51:34,530 --> 00:51:39,240 It's one of these, maybe it's one of these routers, it was 813 00:51:39,240 --> 00:51:40,680 their newest one. I said get me 814 00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:43,290 the DOCSIS and DOCSIS router that Time Warner gave me who 815 00:51:43,290 --> 00:51:44,850 made it. Do you have a second? I 816 00:51:44,850 --> 00:51:45,930 gotta look under the table. 817 00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:51,150 Yeah, we all have a second. So just the streams running. I'll 818 00:51:51,150 --> 00:51:55,620 keep people entertained with my with my ribald tails. Oh, 819 00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:00,210 it's a net gear. It's a net gear. 820 00:52:00,510 --> 00:52:03,360 That's pretty good here. Yeah. And this is the one that Time 821 00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:04,110 Warner gave you. 822 00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:07,530 Yeah, it's a net gear that plugs directly into the cable, and 823 00:52:07,530 --> 00:52:11,640 then it has Wi Fi built in and five Ethernet ports. 824 00:52:13,349 --> 00:52:17,099 Well, let's get you a better one. If you think it's that I 825 00:52:17,099 --> 00:52:17,549 mean, I don't 826 00:52:17,910 --> 00:52:21,000 think it is, I mean, what I'm seeing is it's literally just a 827 00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:26,040 cable disconnecting periodically. It makes no sense. 828 00:52:26,729 --> 00:52:29,369 But that's not a dacha. Where was your DOCSIS modem? You have 829 00:52:29,369 --> 00:52:30,419 to have no no, it's 830 00:52:30,420 --> 00:52:33,510 built into this thing. It's built into it. And before every 831 00:52:33,510 --> 00:52:38,070 show, I disconnected I turn the power off. I let it completely 832 00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:42,480 drain of all residual power. I plug it back into it. So I know 833 00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,750 that it's not overloaded or anything which actually seems to 834 00:52:46,260 --> 00:52:49,710 it might it looks like it who knows, on Thursday dropped out 835 00:52:49,710 --> 00:52:52,860 three times. I don't know John. I mean, I just don't know. 836 00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,700 And I think what do I think my plan maybe? Let's see, I don't 837 00:52:56,700 --> 00:52:58,860 even know that Netgear made a DOCSIS modem. 838 00:52:58,889 --> 00:53:02,189 Yeah, it's brand new. Doesn't look it doesn't have a model 839 00:53:02,189 --> 00:53:05,519 number on it anywhere. It's a small it's a small little box. 840 00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:10,289 Yeah, net gears DOCSIS, blah, blah, blah. Netgear cable 841 00:53:10,289 --> 00:53:14,069 gateway earns DOCSIS 3.0 certification from cable labs 842 00:53:14,069 --> 00:53:18,539 December 14 is probably what do you guys see 3200 D 843 00:53:18,599 --> 00:53:21,269 It's too new. Is that what you're saying? Well, 844 00:53:21,269 --> 00:53:24,809 I don't know. But let's talk to Netgear about it. Just can 845 00:53:24,809 --> 00:53:25,529 continue 846 00:53:25,650 --> 00:53:28,710 now. Did you see a no you probably didn't. Did you see 847 00:53:28,710 --> 00:53:34,680 Bill Maher? I have clips oh good because I got so angry. I got so 848 00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:35,940 angry at that show. 849 00:53:36,210 --> 00:53:39,630 Wait a minute before you do that i we let's play the beer bill 850 00:53:39,660 --> 00:53:45,990 the beer Mark clips in the proper order I think I think I 851 00:53:45,990 --> 00:53:49,890 sent it to you in the right order. Find your little scent 852 00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:51,270 box here. I've got 853 00:53:53,309 --> 00:53:54,719 the Chinaman saying 854 00:53:55,050 --> 00:53:57,660 yeah, well here's the here's the okay here's what the the thing 855 00:53:57,660 --> 00:54:01,200 they did they got me irked was more on breeders you might want 856 00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,390 to just play that this is probably probably part of what 857 00:54:03,390 --> 00:54:04,170 got you irked 858 00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:06,120 there was a lot that got me your 859 00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:09,749 tuition where I think the concern shouldn't just be about 860 00:54:09,749 --> 00:54:12,809 people such a large proportion not paying federal income taxes. 861 00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:14,940 They pay all the taxes I've mentioned but they haven't got 862 00:54:14,940 --> 00:54:15,570 the money 863 00:54:15,570 --> 00:54:20,310 okay, what are they gonna buy but the IRS our economy IRS has 864 00:54:20,310 --> 00:54:25,590 sort of become an Oregon of social engineering in America 865 00:54:25,620 --> 00:54:28,710 which it never used to be that is kind of a big new thing and 866 00:54:28,740 --> 00:54:28,890 they 867 00:54:28,889 --> 00:54:35,399 bribe Do you have a trial do you get a tax credit? Shouldn't you 868 00:54:35,399 --> 00:54:39,899 get a crack tax debit? I mean that kids this is a guy who has 869 00:54:39,899 --> 00:54:41,039 no kids right? 870 00:54:41,550 --> 00:54:45,000 Yeah no he's got no kids he hates children he wants on his 871 00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:48,660 on his show politically incorrect talked about how how 872 00:54:48,660 --> 00:54:54,450 it wasn't a bad idea to beat kids seriously. And the guys is 873 00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,750 he's at this show by the way is interesting because he does has 874 00:54:57,750 --> 00:55:02,490 no balance on the on the panel. Hello everybody is very lucky 875 00:55:02,820 --> 00:55:07,230 to Brits to British people telling us we need VAT in our 876 00:55:07,230 --> 00:55:10,800 country my country you bitches 877 00:55:11,219 --> 00:55:17,219 and the we get this Laura Flanders from Greg Green who is 878 00:55:17,219 --> 00:55:18,419 just a I 879 00:55:19,050 --> 00:55:23,130 don't say that word yes I was yelling at my television level 880 00:55:23,130 --> 00:55:25,080 and play the rest of the breeders clip and I was like 30 881 00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:30,420 seconds left it's worth it cost everybody a lot of money why I 882 00:55:30,420 --> 00:55:34,950 mean really seriously why why is a mortgage deductible Why are 883 00:55:34,950 --> 00:55:38,370 all the you know why your church's taxes Why Why don't 884 00:55:38,370 --> 00:55:42,990 they make judgments about what's good and what's bad what why do 885 00:55:42,990 --> 00:55:47,460 some people get a break? Why to rent Why are renters and breeder 886 00:55:47,490 --> 00:55:50,370 builders, the biggest renters of traders, a bigger problem which 887 00:55:50,370 --> 00:55:52,830 is tax taxing income, we should be taxing consumption more 888 00:55:52,830 --> 00:55:57,600 income. That's what most other countries are run these damn 889 00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:00,300 Brits now I got nothing against my brothers and sisters from 890 00:56:00,300 --> 00:56:03,210 Gitmo nation East. But these two two bronies. 891 00:56:04,139 --> 00:56:09,779 Now, let me bring up something that's premise based. Maher goes 892 00:56:09,779 --> 00:56:12,569 off on this saying they've become social engineers have 893 00:56:12,569 --> 00:56:16,409 recently said, Well, recently, there's always been a deduction 894 00:56:16,409 --> 00:56:19,769 at first for dependents since you know, since they actually 895 00:56:19,769 --> 00:56:23,429 started adding, you know, since the 1920s. And they've always 896 00:56:23,429 --> 00:56:27,839 been a deduction from a mortgage deduction since the 1920s. I 897 00:56:27,839 --> 00:56:30,989 mean, this is not new. What do you think they wasn't introduced 898 00:56:30,989 --> 00:56:35,219 last week? So I mean, so he's, so his history is all screwed 899 00:56:35,219 --> 00:56:39,299 up. So, but here's what the show actually went off the track very 900 00:56:39,299 --> 00:56:44,189 early during his monologue. He was he was about the fact he 901 00:56:44,189 --> 00:56:47,789 didn't say the word Chinaman. Yeah, that was I have a clip of 902 00:56:47,789 --> 00:56:54,059 here. It's a Chinaman clip, and it rattled him. He seen this 903 00:56:54,059 --> 00:56:57,329 week's show fine. You got another few days to see it 904 00:56:57,329 --> 00:57:01,559 because they reran it a million times on HBO. He was physically 905 00:57:01,559 --> 00:57:05,939 rattled by cars on gas. Yeah, it's like the rest of the show. 906 00:57:05,939 --> 00:57:09,329 He was he was mulling this over for the entire show. He played 907 00:57:09,329 --> 00:57:11,339 the Chinaman clip. He's a racist. 908 00:57:11,370 --> 00:57:17,640 He knows it's Obama's fault. He just can't figure out how the 909 00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:26,460 context is the President bowing to, to the to the Chinaman. This 910 00:57:26,460 --> 00:57:29,010 week, they were very upset with Obama because he had his big 911 00:57:29,010 --> 00:57:33,450 nuclear summit and he apparently bowed a little to the Chinese 912 00:57:33,450 --> 00:57:35,910 president. Well, that's what you do. He's a giant, not a 913 00:57:35,910 --> 00:57:42,570 Chinaman. He's a he's a man from China, whatever the quick is 914 00:57:42,570 --> 00:57:48,180 don't write me. Anyway, you know? Yeah. He's a racist. 915 00:57:48,419 --> 00:57:51,929 was a racist. We know he's an ageist. Yeah, yeah, no, he's a 916 00:57:51,929 --> 00:57:55,769 racist. Of course he is. He's a terrible guy. 917 00:57:56,489 --> 00:58:00,329 And a big part of the show was about that would say 918 00:58:00,329 --> 00:58:03,089 consistently. He consistently calls the Tea baggers. Tea 919 00:58:03,089 --> 00:58:04,919 baggers? Tea baggers? Tea baggers. 920 00:58:04,949 --> 00:58:07,739 Yeah, he will not say Tea Party which is the proper which is 921 00:58:07,739 --> 00:58:08,669 what they are so 922 00:58:08,670 --> 00:58:12,300 to an extent that one of his guests actually said the tea bag 923 00:58:12,300 --> 00:58:16,650 party by accident because he hammered this was total mind 924 00:58:16,650 --> 00:58:20,040 control tea bag or tea bagger. And then the whole I don't know 925 00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:23,520 if you have that clip or not. But the whole panel discussion 926 00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:26,850 starts off with well we find out that what this is really about 927 00:58:26,850 --> 00:58:29,340 is people don't hate their government. They just hate black 928 00:58:29,340 --> 00:58:30,990 people in government. Oh, 929 00:58:30,989 --> 00:58:34,649 yeah. He harps on this. What does that based on? It's based 930 00:58:34,649 --> 00:58:35,459 on nothing. 931 00:58:36,030 --> 00:58:40,290 It's rude. It's rude. He's creating racism this guy is 932 00:58:40,290 --> 00:58:44,010 horrid. Get them off the air. Do you have any more clips from 933 00:58:44,010 --> 00:58:44,310 this? 934 00:58:44,670 --> 00:58:47,400 No. to I can't take much of that character. 935 00:58:47,969 --> 00:58:51,119 I just want to say that the head the panel and and they bring on 936 00:58:51,119 --> 00:58:54,779 a guest and this is this is what frightens me the most because 937 00:58:54,779 --> 00:58:59,009 here it is. Here's your next war on terror bid. This is Lawrence 938 00:58:59,009 --> 00:59:03,929 Bender. This is the guy who produced an inconvenient truth. 939 00:59:04,259 --> 00:59:07,709 He now has a new movie which of course was launched at Sundance. 940 00:59:07,739 --> 00:59:13,289 Oh, it's it's a beautiful movie. John. I thought at Sundance that 941 00:59:13,289 --> 00:59:16,559 it was so impressive. It gave me chills and really is just that 942 00:59:16,559 --> 00:59:20,069 frightened me it Bill Maher actually called his movies more 943 00:59:20,069 --> 00:59:23,519 frightening than those that West Craven makes. And he's made this 944 00:59:23,519 --> 00:59:29,219 New Movie Countdown to zero and countdown to zero which of 945 00:59:29,219 --> 00:59:33,629 course were screened for I think the President might have even 946 00:59:33,629 --> 00:59:38,699 have been there is the inconvenient truth version of 947 00:59:38,729 --> 00:59:42,359 terrorists have nuclear weapons. That's the new thing. That's 948 00:59:42,359 --> 00:59:46,439 what this whole nuclear summit is about is about terrorists cab 949 00:59:46,439 --> 00:59:50,039 nukes terrorists will set off nuclear weapons. Now news 950 00:59:50,039 --> 00:59:54,389 reports Oh, if anyone attacks Iran nukes will go off all over 951 00:59:54,389 --> 00:59:57,659 America. We've got our dirty bombs nukes everywhere 952 00:59:57,659 --> 01:00:02,069 terrorists have nuclear weapons. Don't you think that if 953 01:00:02,069 --> 01:00:04,469 terrorists had nuclear weapons that would have set them off by 954 01:00:04,469 --> 01:00:06,209 now? Oh, yeah. I mean, 955 01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:09,990 they could have set them off by now. What's the point of 956 01:00:09,990 --> 01:00:11,790 waiting? It's 957 01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:18,060 the whole thing is just to scare you that terrorists have nuclear 958 01:00:18,060 --> 01:00:21,810 weapons. They've got them countdown to zero. The scariest 959 01:00:21,810 --> 01:00:25,590 movie ever more scary, more scary than Inconvenient Truth. 960 01:00:25,650 --> 01:00:29,100 Now, from the makers of Inconvenient Truth, we bring you 961 01:00:29,190 --> 01:00:32,550 count down to zero, put your head between your knees and Kiss 962 01:00:32,550 --> 01:00:35,970 your ass goodbye. You're all fucked. 963 01:00:37,139 --> 01:00:41,009 You do a lot of voices today. I'm feeling good. Unless maybe 964 01:00:41,009 --> 01:00:44,759 there's something to that theory about the 965 01:00:45,570 --> 01:00:50,490 Jeff Skoll guy. Who is who's paying for this? His name he 966 01:00:50,490 --> 01:00:54,630 like are one of the eBay founders. Maybe not. Yeah, he's 967 01:00:54,630 --> 01:00:59,670 always he's always financing this crap. Yeah. 968 01:01:00,780 --> 01:01:04,050 It makes money it entertains the public, which makes me scared 969 01:01:04,050 --> 01:01:06,450 now. I mean, you can see where, like you said, Wes Craven and 970 01:01:06,450 --> 01:01:09,030 this guy, they're the same, you know, just the same dude, just a 971 01:01:09,030 --> 01:01:12,090 different version of the same thing. You know, hairy, scary, 972 01:01:12,090 --> 01:01:15,000 scary movie. You know, and there's a fiction fiction. I 973 01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:18,030 mean, like, Inconvenient Truth, you know, bullshit. 974 01:01:18,570 --> 01:01:25,830 Whoa, yay. Nice. All right. So let's just talk about some of 975 01:01:25,830 --> 01:01:27,900 the supporters of this show because they've helped us out 976 01:01:27,900 --> 01:01:30,840 tremendously with our media assassination, which I think 977 01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:33,060 we're doing a fine job of this morning. 978 01:01:33,510 --> 01:01:38,670 Well, as you call that media. Yeah, we have had some good 979 01:01:38,670 --> 01:01:43,170 contributions this week, especially at the producers 980 01:01:43,170 --> 01:01:46,500 level. But we got to get let's run through a few of the people 981 01:01:46,500 --> 01:01:49,560 that send us some money and support did us for this week. 982 01:01:49,740 --> 01:01:57,570 Anastasia parov, in Mississauga, Ontario $100 Jason Williams, 983 01:01:58,740 --> 01:02:02,730 Pittsburg, California once more from Jason, William James and 984 01:02:02,730 --> 01:02:07,740 Paul nerim. In that time, we're calling out our friend Eric 985 01:02:07,860 --> 01:02:12,660 fought fo U ght from Brentwood, California for being a douchebag 986 01:02:13,770 --> 01:02:18,330 regular listener and has yet to donate. Damn. Now can we have a 987 01:02:18,330 --> 01:02:22,920 lot of a few 5510s of actually two which is odd. Robert 988 01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:25,710 Campbell two nickels on the dime from Walworth New York with a 989 01:02:25,710 --> 01:02:29,340 long note he's been in Episode Episode One listeners always 990 01:02:29,340 --> 01:02:32,790 been remissed until until enough to donate he's heard stories 991 01:02:32,790 --> 01:02:36,570 about the karma he needs to karma apparently need some and 992 01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:41,550 his why he brings to mind his story I think it reminds you 993 01:02:41,550 --> 01:02:45,060 you're playing number of years ago my wife and I bought a 994 01:02:45,060 --> 01:02:49,890 timeshare This turned out to be one of the reasons we were in 995 01:02:49,890 --> 01:02:54,360 debt enough to want to sell it now we were contacted by a few 996 01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:57,450 different companies to sell and each one money upfront for 997 01:02:57,450 --> 01:03:01,230 marketing slash advertising because never pay upfront money 998 01:03:01,230 --> 01:03:04,650 for anything unless you're hiring an ad agency one such 999 01:03:04,650 --> 01:03:07,500 company and the most of those work from the from the from the 1000 01:03:07,500 --> 01:03:11,790 percentage of the buy anyway, one such company did get $257 1001 01:03:11,790 --> 01:03:16,890 from us and only fed us lies. My donation of 5510 is 10% of what 1002 01:03:16,890 --> 01:03:19,050 I will donate when it does sell okay 1003 01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:23,130 nice and yes my aircraft is still for sale to controller.com 1004 01:03:23,130 --> 01:03:28,980 It's the Nov 277 Delta Shara I'll move it for almost anything 1005 01:03:29,070 --> 01:03:32,430 you know I had a guy try and there's like some university 1006 01:03:32,430 --> 01:03:36,600 that was needed a plane to put a an electric engine in. I 1007 01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:39,720 actually talked with a while. It's like 1008 01:03:40,019 --> 01:03:43,559 they'll just sell the body. Shell to kill keep the engine 1009 01:03:43,559 --> 01:03:44,129 it's always good. 1010 01:03:44,849 --> 01:03:48,899 Please, I need to sell this thing. It's like the aviation 1011 01:03:48,899 --> 01:03:51,749 market, if you haven't noticed is getting worse. Yeah, 1012 01:03:51,749 --> 01:03:53,909 something about not being able to fly 1013 01:03:53,940 --> 01:03:57,900 at all. Nelson Ferreira in New Rochelle New York for two 1014 01:03:57,900 --> 01:04:01,740 nickels on the dime on behalf of Indira Hoffman the sexiest, most 1015 01:04:01,740 --> 01:04:09,210 courageous and strong wife in the universe. They are not shy 1016 01:04:09,210 --> 01:04:14,550 Smith, Ashland City, Tennessee 5011 testing the karma theory 1017 01:04:14,550 --> 01:04:18,960 I'll let you know looking forward to my happy Let me slide 1018 01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:20,460 that over. Ending 1019 01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:27,000 Okay, Happy Ending over indeed. 1020 01:04:27,269 --> 01:04:32,609 Leeds Morrison, Brussels Ontario says he's good paying US and 1021 01:04:32,609 --> 01:04:35,729 Canadian which is worth more than American money apparently 1022 01:04:35,729 --> 01:04:40,769 Alan bow is Langley British Columbia 50 And then Joe could 1023 01:04:40,799 --> 01:04:50,189 cine Larry corpi pals mocker Neil Lemma and deal with all 1024 01:04:50,189 --> 01:04:52,049 part of the Knights programme I just started mentioned that the 1025 01:04:52,379 --> 01:04:57,269 debt 50 comes up every month. And Neil Lemma and Michael 1026 01:04:57,269 --> 01:05:00,989 Rieger normally don't mention this but them along with Pels. 1027 01:05:00,989 --> 01:05:06,419 amacher actually gotten a $30 monthly plan. Which is nice. 1028 01:05:06,539 --> 01:05:10,709 Yeah. Other notes? None. 1029 01:05:11,309 --> 01:05:15,749 Well, let's just thank our executive producers, Werner 1030 01:05:15,749 --> 01:05:24,299 Philipson, who donated $333.33 AJ tcaa. Also, the magic threes 1031 01:05:24,329 --> 01:05:30,329 and then Matthew hocking who donate $333 even. But he did it 1032 01:05:30,329 --> 01:05:34,139 at 3:30am in the morning, which gives you extra bonus points. 1033 01:05:34,439 --> 01:05:39,959 And then our Associate Executive producers. I share media who 1034 01:05:40,259 --> 01:05:42,809 know Eric the shill says he's a Knight said Shall we just go 1035 01:05:42,809 --> 01:05:50,789 ahead and do it? Well, okay, what the hell, John. I share 1036 01:05:50,789 --> 01:05:55,529 media. If you're just one person, or an entire group, 1037 01:05:55,529 --> 01:05:59,279 please kneel before us. John, you better get it out. There you 1038 01:05:59,279 --> 01:06:07,049 go. Yours is sharp today. 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And for you, I think just need more 1064 01:07:54,059 --> 01:07:56,759 money will don't send us toothbrushes. 1065 01:07:56,820 --> 01:08:02,730 Okay, now, all we need is cash as we do it. By the way, I also 1066 01:08:02,730 --> 01:08:05,310 have a letter going out this week thanking all the people who 1067 01:08:05,310 --> 01:08:08,970 donate to no agenda stream and I'm also in the letter. And 1068 01:08:08,970 --> 01:08:11,310 people in the mailing lists also get this letter there is a 1069 01:08:11,310 --> 01:08:14,850 direct deposit. People every once in a while say yeah, I 1070 01:08:14,850 --> 01:08:17,580 don't like Pay Pal or they or they can't get to pay pal like 1071 01:08:17,580 --> 01:08:20,520 in India, although you know, it's mostly Indians that tell me 1072 01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:24,420 that they're cheap dead in India anyway, nobody cares. But you 1073 01:08:24,420 --> 01:08:27,600 can do direct deposit through a wire transfer. And that's 1074 01:08:27,750 --> 01:08:30,480 probably a good solution to a lot of people. Hey, John, 1075 01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:33,689 I have a little trivia for you. Yeah, let's do a little trivia 1076 01:08:33,689 --> 01:08:34,229 for a second. 1077 01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:36,450 No, but Go Go for it. 1078 01:08:36,569 --> 01:08:43,739 Okay. Here we go. Who said this? Haiku is an awakening of the 1079 01:08:43,739 --> 01:08:48,239 Spirit away from technocratic rationality. Away from the 1080 01:08:48,239 --> 01:08:53,009 sophistication attention seeking and glitter. Back to Basics. Our 1081 01:08:53,009 --> 01:09:01,109 time is in need of simplicity. Al Gore, no, no. Jerry Brown. 1082 01:09:01,139 --> 01:09:02,339 No. Oh, come 1083 01:09:02,340 --> 01:09:04,050 on. This Clinton? 1084 01:09:04,350 --> 01:09:12,120 No. Who is haiku Herrmann. Oh, I knew this haiku Herrmann fun the 1085 01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:16,200 room boy Yes, he has finally released his book of haikus. 1086 01:09:16,470 --> 01:09:20,670 This is the President of the United States of Europe, who 1087 01:09:20,820 --> 01:09:24,450 Nigel Farraj is likened to the via having the personality of a 1088 01:09:24,450 --> 01:09:30,450 damp dish cloth. quoted today he actually quoted Charles de 1089 01:09:30,450 --> 01:09:34,650 Gaulle at his the release of his haiku book and saying, 1090 01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:40,440 gentlemen, do I look like a dictator? Which I think is just 1091 01:09:40,440 --> 01:09:41,040 meant 1092 01:09:41,249 --> 01:09:45,179 that he said Yes, oh, yeah, look like a dick. I don't 1093 01:09:45,180 --> 01:09:48,810 have the audio, does. He? Of course, he looks like a dictator 1094 01:09:49,529 --> 01:09:53,549 Ceausescu characters, dictator in Romania, 1095 01:09:54,450 --> 01:09:57,900 as the girl although I cannot compare myself with him, I would 1096 01:09:57,900 --> 01:10:03,780 say gentleman, do I look like a dictator? Ha. So he released his 1097 01:10:03,780 --> 01:10:07,860 book of haikus. I will read one to you and then I will give you 1098 01:10:07,860 --> 01:10:12,870 his Flemish and French reading of another one which I translate 1099 01:10:12,870 --> 01:10:17,640 I will translate for you on the fly. Because this is coming from 1100 01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:20,700 the President of the United States of Europe, representing 1101 01:10:20,700 --> 01:10:27,360 over 400 million people, soon to have his own army, a haiku by 1102 01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:33,480 Herman Van Rompuy in the nearby ditch toads meeting 1103 01:10:33,480 --> 01:10:41,010 passionately, inaugurate spring it's beautiful. Okay, another 1104 01:10:41,010 --> 01:10:48,330 one. Frost has now hardened the folds of winter soil. Tomorrow, 1105 01:10:48,420 --> 01:10:49,380 it will thaw 1106 01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:54,210 sounds like the stuff that Bunnell posted my son, if you go 1107 01:10:54,210 --> 01:10:56,370 to Twitter, slash 12. 1108 01:10:56,399 --> 01:10:58,889 Two, that's exactly what it sounds like. 1109 01:11:00,689 --> 01:11:04,169 These stupid commentaries and he's been doing I don't know how 1110 01:11:04,169 --> 01:11:05,549 I can maintain this by the way. 1111 01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:09,060 Let's listen to let's listen to some some of his own readings 1112 01:11:09,060 --> 01:11:10,170 and I'll translate it for 1113 01:11:10,170 --> 01:11:14,940 you. Some pointers and social paradox here doesn't move. 1114 01:11:15,420 --> 01:11:18,960 So he's actually saying the final part of the of the kaiku 1115 01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:23,580 has to be a point it has to be a paradox. Thank you, Herman. To 1116 01:11:23,580 --> 01:11:28,830 Ada, who wish two days gone. DeVito these footballers, the 1117 01:11:28,830 --> 01:11:30,300 world has changed. 1118 01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:32,819 The frat boy blues, 1119 01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:41,939 the fruit, the fruit tree blossoms it's beautiful. I have 1120 01:11:41,939 --> 01:11:43,049 tears in my eyes. 1121 01:11:43,050 --> 01:11:45,540 Guys. Do this guy needs counselling and he's gonna read 1122 01:11:45,540 --> 01:11:46,110 it again. 1123 01:11:46,229 --> 01:11:50,099 Today dark rubbish. gone for two days the vehicle is Fernando the 1124 01:11:50,099 --> 01:11:51,419 world has changed 1125 01:11:51,540 --> 01:11:53,280 the front boom blowed 1126 01:11:53,459 --> 01:11:57,299 the fruit tree blossoms. And if that wasn't enough, let's do it 1127 01:11:57,299 --> 01:11:57,869 in French 1128 01:11:57,870 --> 01:12:06,660 visual mordashov The first day of the do it again. Do shoot 1129 01:12:07,380 --> 01:12:11,370 more the version of flow 1130 01:12:20,790 --> 01:12:26,430 genius standing ovation. That's what we're up against. The 1131 01:12:26,430 --> 01:12:29,220 President of the United States of Europe, ladies and gentlemen. 1132 01:12:31,230 --> 01:12:33,750 That's the guy who was going to rule the world. 1133 01:12:35,490 --> 01:12:42,450 Gotta love it. All right. So let's get into some awesome 1134 01:12:42,450 --> 01:12:47,640 clips. Here's a good one. There's this guy I'm listening 1135 01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:53,220 to is a new senator from Nebraska. Your favourite state? 1136 01:12:53,790 --> 01:12:54,480 I like 1137 01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:55,199 Nebraska. 1138 01:12:55,410 --> 01:12:56,220 Boys Club? 1139 01:12:56,910 --> 01:13:01,050 Oh, yes, of course. Boys Town. boys toys town. 1140 01:13:01,590 --> 01:13:03,660 Boys do there's no boys club anymore. Now it's the Boys and 1141 01:13:03,660 --> 01:13:10,560 Girls Club. Yeah, right. Yo, Hans. Nebraska senator. He's on 1142 01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:14,250 C span during a vote and they're grilling him about the economy 1143 01:13:14,250 --> 01:13:17,940 and what can be done about this new and he's talking tough. So 1144 01:13:17,940 --> 01:13:24,060 play the Blanche Preet. No, no, pre Glass Steagall doesn't go 1145 01:13:24,060 --> 01:13:28,410 into this thing does just play that clip pre pre Illinois. from 1146 01:13:28,410 --> 01:13:32,700 Diane independence. Go ahead, please. Yes. Oh, this 1147 01:13:32,700 --> 01:13:34,470 is the C span callin show. 1148 01:13:34,500 --> 01:13:38,250 Yeah. Now, by the way, this woman calling in is hilarious. I 1149 01:13:38,250 --> 01:13:41,820 think she's I think, personally that she's in the tank. But 1150 01:13:41,820 --> 01:13:44,730 whatever the case is, she actually makes kind of drunken 1151 01:13:44,730 --> 01:13:49,020 sense. And of course, he picks up the ball after that nice 1152 01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:52,470 Illinois. from Diane independence. Go ahead, please. 1153 01:13:53,640 --> 01:14:00,750 Yes. My question is, is if we don't rein in too big to fail 1154 01:14:00,750 --> 01:14:06,240 the way these financial institutions are intertwined. 1155 01:14:06,900 --> 01:14:10,260 We're never going to let them fail. Whether there's a 1156 01:14:10,260 --> 01:14:16,650 Republican or a Democrat in the White House. It doesn't matter. 1157 01:14:16,950 --> 01:14:21,960 We're going, the American people are going down the tubes. 1158 01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:28,410 Watching both parties. Sell us out. For contributions from 1159 01:14:28,410 --> 01:14:29,040 these banks. 1160 01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:33,780 She's my new hero. I love this woman. Did I have not heard it 1161 01:14:33,780 --> 01:14:35,040 said that simply. 1162 01:14:35,189 --> 01:14:37,439 I know. I was stunned myself. 1163 01:14:37,890 --> 01:14:39,900 This is what needs to be corrected. 1164 01:14:40,890 --> 01:14:44,610 Diane, you could not be more right. One of the first I'm a 1165 01:14:44,610 --> 01:14:47,070 fairly new senator. I've only been there about a year and a 1166 01:14:47,070 --> 01:14:51,840 half. But one of the first votes I had was the second piece of 1167 01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:55,920 the tarp funding the federal money that in my judgement has 1168 01:14:55,920 --> 01:15:01,170 really become a slush fund for every cause out there. I voted 1169 01:15:01,170 --> 01:15:05,010 against it. I just thought it was the wrong course of action 1170 01:15:05,010 --> 01:15:06,240 the wrong direction and 1171 01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:08,880 wouldn't be funny if she said in the morning, 1172 01:15:10,229 --> 01:15:15,389 we need to firmly plant a stake in the heart of too big to fail. 1173 01:15:15,779 --> 01:15:20,339 This idea that you get so big that taxpayers are duty bound to 1174 01:15:20,339 --> 01:15:24,689 bail you out is absurd and ridiculous. The only way I 1175 01:15:24,689 --> 01:15:28,529 believe we can do that is pass a very, very strong piece of 1176 01:15:28,529 --> 01:15:31,949 legislation here. I do not believe that this current bill 1177 01:15:31,949 --> 01:15:37,709 goes far enough. And okay, he's talking to have is not going far 1178 01:15:37,709 --> 01:15:39,869 enough. We got to you, by the way, everyone should note out 1179 01:15:39,869 --> 01:15:43,829 there. And anyone who studies it knows that all the institutions 1180 01:15:43,829 --> 01:15:47,069 that were too big to fail that were set are bigger now than 1181 01:15:47,069 --> 01:15:51,749 they were before. Every too big to fail company is really a lot 1182 01:15:51,749 --> 01:15:52,229 bigger than 1183 01:15:52,230 --> 01:15:54,990 it was and they acquired a lot of other companies just become 1184 01:15:54,990 --> 01:15:55,410 bigger. 1185 01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:58,680 Yeah, they're huge. But anyway, so this guy is talking tough. So 1186 01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:04,530 meanwhile, somebody comes up some guy calls in next and not 1187 01:16:04,530 --> 01:16:07,770 the next one. But shortly down the line, and talks about Glass 1188 01:16:07,770 --> 01:16:10,530 Steagall. Now, Glass Steagall was a bill that was passed 1189 01:16:10,530 --> 01:16:13,620 during the Great Depression, that just came out of the Great 1190 01:16:13,620 --> 01:16:17,580 Depression long, a lot of other provisos to keep these banks in 1191 01:16:17,580 --> 01:16:21,750 check from getting too big to fail. And from banks, taking on 1192 01:16:21,750 --> 01:16:23,760 too many things, selling insurance, selling stocks, and 1193 01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:26,370 doing all kinds of mixed mixed bag of things. It was 1194 01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:29,970 prohibited. And the Glass Steagall along with the banking 1195 01:16:29,970 --> 01:16:33,360 accident that kept banks from doing interstate banking, and a 1196 01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:36,690 lot of these other rules and regulations, kept everything in 1197 01:16:36,690 --> 01:16:39,090 check. And they were all repealed Glass Steagall the guy 1198 01:16:39,090 --> 01:16:42,000 mistakes and makes the mistake of saying Glass Steagall was 1199 01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:45,960 from 1999. Glass Steagall, Steagall was, was eliminated in 1200 01:16:45,960 --> 01:16:50,880 1999. By Clinton, along with the Democrat, I'm sorry, with blue 1201 01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:53,340 with the Republican Congress. So this guy brings up an 1202 01:16:53,340 --> 01:16:56,820 interesting question. Now, listen to what Mr. Get tough. 1203 01:16:56,820 --> 01:17:00,180 Oh, we got to get tough. We got to do more. Listen to what his 1204 01:17:00,180 --> 01:17:01,950 response to this question is. 1205 01:17:02,069 --> 01:17:05,069 Next up is Gail and Belgrade main Republican line. Good 1206 01:17:05,069 --> 01:17:05,309 morning. 1207 01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:10,440 Good morning. Senator, I did want to ask you a question. Some 1208 01:17:10,440 --> 01:17:13,590 of the better accounts that I had read about the genesis of 1209 01:17:13,590 --> 01:17:17,790 the financial meltdown in 2008. Two culprits kept coming up all 1210 01:17:17,790 --> 01:17:21,060 the time. And all the accounts that I read was The expansion of 1211 01:17:21,900 --> 01:17:24,780 the monetary base from the Federal Reserve that created the 1212 01:17:24,780 --> 01:17:29,490 housing bubble. But the other thing was the repeal of the 1999 1213 01:17:29,490 --> 01:17:33,750 Glass Steagall Act, that put up a wall between regular 1214 01:17:33,780 --> 01:17:37,890 commercial banks for people had FDIC insurance, that you just 1215 01:17:37,890 --> 01:17:40,710 put your savings in there, and the investment banks, 1216 01:17:40,740 --> 01:17:44,070 so we need to just stop here for one second, John just explained 1217 01:17:44,070 --> 01:17:47,910 that, that it was the Treasury who allowed all of these 1218 01:17:47,910 --> 01:17:52,110 investment banks and the bank is the wrong word. It's a company 1219 01:17:52,350 --> 01:17:56,430 investment company, to become regular bank so they could get 1220 01:17:56,430 --> 01:17:57,030 tarp down, 1221 01:17:57,090 --> 01:17:59,790 because they could not have done that if it wasn't for what this 1222 01:17:59,790 --> 01:18:04,560 guy calls by the way, Glass Steagall last seamen. 1223 01:18:04,590 --> 01:18:07,470 That's what it is. But that was repealed under the Clinton 1224 01:18:07,470 --> 01:18:10,500 administration, but with the help of a Republican Congress, 1225 01:18:10,500 --> 01:18:14,520 and I believe it was led by Phil Gramm, Republican senator from 1226 01:18:14,850 --> 01:18:20,490 Texas at the time. This seemed to give an implicit guarantee to 1227 01:18:20,490 --> 01:18:23,670 the investment banks that when they when all these complicated 1228 01:18:23,670 --> 01:18:27,480 derivatives and collateral debt obligations just collapsed, 1229 01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:31,530 they're given implicit government guarantees that that 1230 01:18:31,530 --> 01:18:35,970 happened, we taxpayers bailed out these firms. So we bailed 1231 01:18:35,970 --> 01:18:39,480 out AIG has allowed the taxpayers to be evil, have AIG 1232 01:18:39,480 --> 01:18:42,840 pay Goldman Sachs and foreign banks? Isn't it time that we 1233 01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:46,710 reinstitute Glass Steagall, to prevent that from happening 1234 01:18:46,710 --> 01:18:50,520 again? And why isn't it a part of this new new bill? I would 1235 01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:53,880 not go there. Let me offer 1236 01:18:53,939 --> 01:18:57,209 a general socket, you can stop it. Now. He just started talking 1237 01:18:57,209 --> 01:19:02,639 about something else. Yeah, this whole was talking tough a minute 1238 01:19:02,639 --> 01:19:05,369 ago. And then when it comes to Glass Steagall, which I agree 1239 01:19:05,369 --> 01:19:08,189 with with if it was in place, we probably wouldn't have this this 1240 01:19:08,189 --> 01:19:11,399 meltdown. But this guy because of there's some corruption 1241 01:19:11,429 --> 01:19:14,009 within the Republican Party. And of course, when they mentioned 1242 01:19:14,009 --> 01:19:17,969 Phil Gramm as being behind the repeal of Glass Steagall, and if 1243 01:19:17,969 --> 01:19:21,239 you start looking into Phil Gramm and his and his lobbyists 1244 01:19:21,239 --> 01:19:24,869 wife and check out what they're up to, it's enough to make you 1245 01:19:24,869 --> 01:19:28,889 throw up guys like this are part of the problem. 1246 01:19:29,850 --> 01:19:34,260 For those of you wondering what we're doing watching C span two, 1247 01:19:34,260 --> 01:19:43,800 one we don't have to see, somebody's got to watch it. It's 1248 01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:47,520 what you support us for. So 1249 01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:51,210 on C span, there's by the way, I still have to get my education. 1250 01:19:51,210 --> 01:19:53,610 I couldn't I was gonna do my educational thing today. But 1251 01:19:53,610 --> 01:19:58,680 now, over the weekend, CNN ran a education special with this 1252 01:19:59,160 --> 01:20:03,870 Boney Head Head of the head of the Department of Education, the 1253 01:20:04,410 --> 01:20:09,960 Obamas guy in Chicago. And unfortunately now it gave me so 1254 01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:12,630 much more new material that I've got to re edit all this stuff. 1255 01:20:12,630 --> 01:20:15,720 So sorry, it's not gonna bore people totally stiff. Or maybe 1256 01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:18,480 I'll just put the whole thing on a CD. I'm not sure while you're 1257 01:20:18,480 --> 01:20:19,230 while you're doing that, 1258 01:20:19,230 --> 01:20:28,320 John, look up. ERBD r b e, Echo Romeo, bravo. It's the Education 1259 01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:38,610 report board are making pre K four year olds do tests. Know, I 1260 01:20:38,610 --> 01:20:42,510 had dinner last night with a with a friend and she says, 1261 01:20:42,690 --> 01:20:45,660 we're really worried about this test as if we get kids like for 1262 01:20:45,660 --> 01:20:48,390 ya know, it's the ERP test. What is it? I don't know. But it's 1263 01:20:48,390 --> 01:20:51,150 the ERP test. She has to be ready for the test. And they're 1264 01:20:51,150 --> 01:20:55,830 rich, like for houses like rich, rich headphones rich. And 1265 01:20:55,830 --> 01:20:59,910 they've got tutors for the four year old. Oh, this is sick. Oh, 1266 01:20:59,910 --> 01:21:01,860 yeah. The ER B. Yeah, you 1267 01:21:01,859 --> 01:21:06,419 have to engage in educational records. Even more to do 1268 01:21:06,450 --> 01:21:10,950 Oh, yeah, no, this this is awesome. So we'll do that in a 1269 01:21:10,950 --> 01:21:13,470 future show. Sorry for the interruption. I think you have 1270 01:21:13,470 --> 01:21:14,400 more on this. 1271 01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:20,760 I got plenty. Yeah. So But meanwhile, listening to watching 1272 01:21:20,760 --> 01:21:25,920 some stuff on CNN but me while they had this on books, the 1273 01:21:25,920 --> 01:21:28,440 books TV thing they do over the weekend, 1274 01:21:28,440 --> 01:21:31,350 too. And, by the way, I just want people to know, this is our 1275 01:21:31,350 --> 01:21:34,410 life. Okay, so I had a dinner. All right. This is one of 1276 01:21:34,410 --> 01:21:39,120 Mickey's friends. Her husband runs a hedge firm, hedge hedge 1277 01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:41,700 fund. And he or she actually had dinner and we can get on that 1278 01:21:41,700 --> 01:21:44,820 later said, so what do you think of this Goldman thing? I said, 1279 01:21:44,970 --> 01:21:49,110 yeah, don't look over here. But anyway, I'm on my way. And 1280 01:21:49,110 --> 01:21:52,170 John's like C span two now I'm like, Oh, crap. Maybe there's 1281 01:21:52,170 --> 01:21:55,440 someone C span two. And luckily, I have this. I have the C span 1282 01:21:55,470 --> 01:21:59,520 app. So I fire up the C span app. And on the way to dinner, 1283 01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:03,330 we're listening to C span to in the car. I just went that is our 1284 01:22:03,330 --> 01:22:06,840 life. That is what we do for you. So you don't have to. 1285 01:22:07,590 --> 01:22:10,500 If we weren't doing this show, I can assure you we wouldn't be 1286 01:22:10,500 --> 01:22:13,560 doing. We wouldn't be doing that. We're actually ruining our 1287 01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:16,950 lives doing this stuff. Yeah, exactly. Okay, so here's the 1288 01:22:16,950 --> 01:22:20,550 thing. Here's the deal. So some months back, I saw this woman, 1289 01:22:20,550 --> 01:22:24,270 Nicole jolliness. And she finished a book call that she 1290 01:22:24,270 --> 01:22:26,580 did a book called after the fall. And by the way, this is an 1291 01:22:26,580 --> 01:22:33,780 alert to our book, guys who have no agenda, bookstore, and some 1292 01:22:33,780 --> 01:22:36,930 other stuff online. And they put these books on for people to buy 1293 01:22:36,930 --> 01:22:40,800 and they take a piece of the Amazon sales and send us a chunk 1294 01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:43,740 of that, which is very little because Amazon doesn't give me 1295 01:22:43,740 --> 01:22:48,180 anything. But anyway, the book is by Nicole Julene has called 1296 01:22:48,180 --> 01:22:51,240 after the fall and it's a deconstruction of the financial 1297 01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:52,230 crisis saving 1298 01:22:52,230 --> 01:22:55,080 capitalism from Wall Street and Washington. 1299 01:22:56,160 --> 01:23:00,150 And then she was interviewing Harry Markopolos the guy, the 1300 01:23:00,150 --> 01:23:03,480 whistleblower of the Madoff whistleblower who just released 1301 01:23:03,480 --> 01:23:08,820 a book naming names called no one would listen. And this is 1302 01:23:08,820 --> 01:23:12,480 another book you should buy. But here's the here's the backstory. 1303 01:23:12,510 --> 01:23:16,080 So I tuned in to C span is about a month and a half ago when her 1304 01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:18,870 book came out, and she was giving a lecture to one of the 1305 01:23:19,140 --> 01:23:22,500 some foundation or some group of people somewhere and it was I 1306 01:23:22,500 --> 01:23:26,160 was fascinated, because she was, she was really interesting. 1307 01:23:26,850 --> 01:23:31,140 She's, but she is the nerdiest woman I have probably ever seen 1308 01:23:31,140 --> 01:23:34,050 in my life, but somehow appealing and so weird 1309 01:23:35,069 --> 01:23:45,149 quote from your SMS text message to me, John. Where is it? This 1310 01:23:45,149 --> 01:23:49,289 gal Nicole, hot Ultra Nerd Girl real one. 1311 01:23:50,189 --> 01:23:53,429 And I put that in there for the following reasons. If anybody 1312 01:23:53,429 --> 01:23:58,259 follows high tech, if you listen to Veronica Belmont and all 1313 01:23:58,259 --> 01:24:01,799 these different women that are on these podcasts and pod shows, 1314 01:24:01,799 --> 01:24:05,639 they all call themselves nerd girls are geeks. You know, and 1315 01:24:05,639 --> 01:24:09,359 none of them are they you know, they play with a few gadgets and 1316 01:24:09,359 --> 01:24:14,429 they like an iPad and this woman is genuine, the real deal, man. 1317 01:24:14,909 --> 01:24:19,079 Surreal deal. She is such a nerd. It's unbelievable. So 1318 01:24:19,079 --> 01:24:21,869 anyway, so I saw her and I said what this she was, but I was 1319 01:24:21,869 --> 01:24:25,019 fascinated by her material. By the way. The most interesting 1320 01:24:25,019 --> 01:24:28,709 thing about she actually has a pro fed argument that's 1321 01:24:28,709 --> 01:24:29,219 interesting. 1322 01:24:29,250 --> 01:24:30,720 She has a nice rack. 1323 01:24:32,399 --> 01:24:38,699 I didn't notice that to be honest. I'm googling her. This 1324 01:24:38,699 --> 01:24:42,719 is our life. Okay. So she's just so I'm shocked to see you're on 1325 01:24:42,719 --> 01:24:45,239 again. And she's not only on but she's almost she's very 1326 01:24:45,239 --> 01:24:47,729 unprofessional because she didn't sign off right and a few 1327 01:24:47,729 --> 01:24:50,609 other things. But she's interviewing Mark Copalis. And 1328 01:24:50,609 --> 01:24:53,699 you've all seen him. He's the whistleblower who is an ultra 1329 01:24:53,699 --> 01:24:58,919 nerd. And he's a wank nerd. So we got this nerd as this 1330 01:24:59,130 --> 01:25:02,130 was a nerd So, it was nerd porn 1331 01:25:02,340 --> 01:25:04,920 going after each other. She's actually interviewing me. She's 1332 01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:08,070 on his side of the stick. And it was one of the best and you 1333 01:25:08,070 --> 01:25:10,680 should look at episode season was on season two was one of the 1334 01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:14,460 best interviews I've ever seen because it was no holds barred, 1335 01:25:14,610 --> 01:25:17,760 not trying to explain anything just going for it. So let's 1336 01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:20,370 listen to I got three clips from this. And let's listen to the 1337 01:25:20,370 --> 01:25:23,850 first one, which is Marco Markopoulos on bail outs, 1338 01:25:24,510 --> 01:25:27,570 says, as you mentioned, they consider themselves to be 1339 01:25:27,570 --> 01:25:31,320 sophisticated people should we have this differentiation 1340 01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:36,360 between sophisticated investors and und investors where the SEC 1341 01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:41,340 says For example, if you've got a net worth of more than a 1342 01:25:41,340 --> 01:25:43,920 million dollars, maybe 2 million now and you're making more than 1343 01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:47,760 $200,000 a year, you're on your own, there's really no consumer 1344 01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:50,430 protections or investment protections for you. You can 1345 01:25:50,430 --> 01:25:54,750 invest in all kinds of unregulated stuff. And everyone 1346 01:25:54,750 --> 01:25:58,230 else has at least some rudimentary protections, 1347 01:25:58,230 --> 01:26:02,040 although these things need reform as well. Should we even 1348 01:26:02,040 --> 01:26:03,180 have that separation? 1349 01:26:03,420 --> 01:26:05,520 No, because sophisticated investors just because they're 1350 01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:07,680 wealthy doesn't mean they know the financial capital markets 1351 01:26:07,680 --> 01:26:10,770 that well, they deserve a level of protection to they pay taxes, 1352 01:26:10,770 --> 01:26:12,660 they're citizens of this nation, we owe them a duty of 1353 01:26:12,660 --> 01:26:15,030 protection. That would be like saying our armed forces should 1354 01:26:15,030 --> 01:26:18,180 only protect people that are left making less than 200,000 a 1355 01:26:18,180 --> 01:26:21,150 year, right? They protect all of us in the armed forces. The same 1356 01:26:21,150 --> 01:26:23,100 with our regulators. They shouldn't be differentiating, 1357 01:26:23,100 --> 01:26:25,230 saying, Oh, you sophisticated wealthy investors, you're on 1358 01:26:25,230 --> 01:26:27,510 your own, it's okay for you to get wiped out. We don't care. 1359 01:26:27,930 --> 01:26:31,770 Well, someone should care. There are people to and they have 1360 01:26:31,770 --> 01:26:34,590 families, they pay taxes, they donate to charities, and they 1361 01:26:34,590 --> 01:26:36,810 serve in charitable organisations. Why won't we want 1362 01:26:36,810 --> 01:26:39,390 to protect those poor people, we in the Madoff victims have 1363 01:26:39,390 --> 01:26:43,140 gotten nothing but a bad deal from the government. They got no 1364 01:26:43,140 --> 01:26:44,970 protection, they got no sympathy. And now they're 1365 01:26:44,970 --> 01:26:48,630 getting clawbacks the people that got protection and bailed 1366 01:26:48,630 --> 01:26:51,120 out. But the big corporate entities, welfare is 1367 01:26:51,390 --> 01:26:55,620 far more sophisticated, and even more, right, and they got bailed 1368 01:26:55,620 --> 01:26:56,010 out. 1369 01:26:56,220 --> 01:26:58,260 So you're saying that the corporations are more 1370 01:26:58,260 --> 01:27:00,780 sophisticated, they get bailed out, you get people that are 1371 01:27:00,780 --> 01:27:03,840 making over 200,000 a year, they may have over 2 million in 1372 01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:08,160 assets, they get no protection, and anybody who's middle class 1373 01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:11,550 gets plenty of protection. Well, it turned out the middle faster 1374 01:27:11,550 --> 01:27:13,440 and get protected any better than the rich people in this 1375 01:27:13,440 --> 01:27:16,650 country did who did get protected? The corporation so 1376 01:27:16,650 --> 01:27:18,810 who does our country represent? Seems to represent the 1377 01:27:18,810 --> 01:27:19,590 corporations. 1378 01:27:21,990 --> 01:27:28,710 She should throw in Swingline once in a while. Swingline who 1379 01:27:28,710 --> 01:27:28,860 is 1380 01:27:31,109 --> 01:27:36,839 always going to but anyway, Mark Markopoulos is just a he this 1381 01:27:36,839 --> 01:27:40,769 guy could should be hitting the road as a politician because his 1382 01:27:40,769 --> 01:27:44,789 stuff is is very populous. It's very interesting. Let's play 1383 01:27:44,789 --> 01:27:46,409 number two, here we go 1384 01:27:47,580 --> 01:27:52,590 to the larger level of what you just talked about the unfairness 1385 01:27:52,590 --> 01:27:55,560 of these financial industry bailouts, the perception among 1386 01:27:55,860 --> 01:28:00,060 regular people that there's your free markets meaning failure for 1387 01:28:00,060 --> 01:28:02,340 for me, but not for the if you're big enough and 1388 01:28:02,340 --> 01:28:05,160 complicated enough? How can we put in place the right 1389 01:28:05,160 --> 01:28:09,210 regulations so that we don't have these bailouts next time 1390 01:28:09,210 --> 01:28:11,940 around that you could have financial companies go under 1391 01:28:12,000 --> 01:28:15,600 without bankrupting the rest of the financial system? What is 1392 01:28:15,630 --> 01:28:21,660 what is Bernie Madoff? In this whole tragic debacle, teach us 1393 01:28:21,660 --> 01:28:23,940 for five years from now 10 years from now, 1394 01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:26,190 I think the Bernie Madoff scandal teaches us that if 1395 01:28:26,190 --> 01:28:29,130 you're an individual, this country does not represent you. 1396 01:28:29,370 --> 01:28:32,130 It represents corporations. It's pretty clear. I know that the 1397 01:28:32,130 --> 01:28:34,080 American people are angry as hell because I go out and give 1398 01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:37,500 speeches, and I meet them. And the anger is palpable, right? 1399 01:28:37,500 --> 01:28:37,650 What 1400 01:28:37,650 --> 01:28:38,790 are they most angry about? 1401 01:28:38,910 --> 01:28:41,040 They're angry at the bailout. They don't understand why we 1402 01:28:41,040 --> 01:28:42,990 bailed out the auto companies why they weren't allowed to 1403 01:28:42,990 --> 01:28:47,250 fail. They don't understand why AIG was allowed to exist. Fannie 1404 01:28:47,250 --> 01:28:50,100 Mae, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, they don't understand these 1405 01:28:50,100 --> 01:28:53,100 bailouts. They don't understand why we rescued the banks. And 1406 01:28:53,100 --> 01:28:55,830 and understand why the banks are paying big bonuses. Why didn't 1407 01:28:55,830 --> 01:28:57,780 they pay back the bonuses that they earned in the last 10 1408 01:28:57,780 --> 01:29:00,060 years? Well and earn them they weren't real earnings. 1409 01:29:00,150 --> 01:29:03,090 Right? If the Madoff victims have these clawbacks where they 1410 01:29:03,090 --> 01:29:07,050 have to give back the money that they thought they had made, why 1411 01:29:07,050 --> 01:29:09,690 not? The financial institutions as well, 1412 01:29:09,719 --> 01:29:12,719 how fair isn't CEOs get to keep the money that they didn't 1413 01:29:12,719 --> 01:29:16,439 learn? And the Madoff victims have to give theirs back? How 1414 01:29:16,439 --> 01:29:19,889 fair is that? It's not fair. It just shows the inequality. And 1415 01:29:19,889 --> 01:29:22,199 who does government represent? It certainly doesn't represent 1416 01:29:22,199 --> 01:29:23,579 us taxpayers, right. 1417 01:29:23,760 --> 01:29:26,850 As famously once said, by an American and President the 1418 01:29:26,850 --> 01:29:29,370 business of America is business. 1419 01:29:31,290 --> 01:29:35,100 Yeah, I think it was Cleveland. Yeah. Okay. Anyway, so this guy 1420 01:29:35,100 --> 01:29:37,560 is on a roll. I'm watching this is really interesting to me. But 1421 01:29:37,560 --> 01:29:39,930 he's not saying anything that we don't talk about and that we 1422 01:29:39,960 --> 01:29:40,890 don't express it 1423 01:29:40,890 --> 01:29:44,610 but he's but he is the guy who busted made off and busted him 1424 01:29:44,640 --> 01:29:49,830 like years before a decade. That's a couple of years, a 1425 01:29:49,830 --> 01:29:50,580 couple of years. 1426 01:29:50,970 --> 01:29:53,130 And he's by the way, in his book, he apparently names they 1427 01:29:53,130 --> 01:29:54,930 talk about this. He names a bunch of people that weren't 1428 01:29:54,930 --> 01:29:57,210 brought up in the in the congressional hearings, but 1429 01:29:57,210 --> 01:29:59,700 there's a little bit of that as discussed here in the third and 1430 01:29:59,700 --> 01:30:00,360 last Clip, 1431 01:30:01,200 --> 01:30:06,240 do you you weigh out these very good suggestions? What's your 1432 01:30:06,600 --> 01:30:09,900 realistic assessments? I mean, from what you've seen in 1433 01:30:09,900 --> 01:30:13,800 Congress over the past year and a half now, nearly a year and a 1434 01:30:13,800 --> 01:30:18,600 half, since your exposure came to light, the regulatory bill 1435 01:30:18,600 --> 01:30:21,930 that's before Congress right now, this idea of systemic risk 1436 01:30:21,930 --> 01:30:25,470 regulator, Consumer Financial Protection Agency, do you think 1437 01:30:25,470 --> 01:30:26,550 that they'll get this right? 1438 01:30:26,730 --> 01:30:29,280 No, they won't. Because no one's been held accountable in 1439 01:30:29,280 --> 01:30:32,640 Washington, not one regulator, that one sec staffer has been 1440 01:30:32,640 --> 01:30:35,400 fired, they need to be publicly fired, these people should not 1441 01:30:35,400 --> 01:30:38,670 have their jobs. There's nothing in the current regulatory scheme 1442 01:30:38,700 --> 01:30:41,130 that needs to be saved. We need to tear down and build a new, 1443 01:30:41,400 --> 01:30:45,540 one computer system, new people that are zealous and properly 1444 01:30:45,540 --> 01:30:48,750 compensated to find fraud and prevent fraud and protect us 1445 01:30:48,750 --> 01:30:51,960 taxpayers. And right now, no accountability is zero. 1446 01:30:52,020 --> 01:30:55,410 So you're saying that even the SEC people that you mentioned by 1447 01:30:55,410 --> 01:31:00,390 name, Megan Chang, couple other ones, who your according to 1448 01:31:00,390 --> 01:31:05,490 yourself, and the Inspector General, dismissed these these 1449 01:31:05,490 --> 01:31:08,700 findings, many times over? They're still working at the 1450 01:31:08,700 --> 01:31:09,300 SEC, 1451 01:31:09,359 --> 01:31:11,549 no, most of them, many of them have left, but some have been 1452 01:31:11,549 --> 01:31:14,669 promoted. So if you're penalty for screwing up massively like 1453 01:31:14,669 --> 01:31:16,859 the Madoff case, as you get promoted or make more money, or 1454 01:31:16,859 --> 01:31:19,799 you go wrong, the private sector or you go to private sector take 1455 01:31:19,799 --> 01:31:22,889 a cushy partnership at a big law firm. Well, that doesn't seem 1456 01:31:22,889 --> 01:31:25,829 like punishment to me. I want accountability and government, 1457 01:31:25,829 --> 01:31:28,349 there's none. Your entire agencies that failed this 1458 01:31:28,349 --> 01:31:32,129 nation, not one person has been fired. How shocking is that? 1459 01:31:32,129 --> 01:31:34,349 should Americans be outraged? You bet they should be 1460 01:31:34,380 --> 01:31:36,780 hallelujah, hallelujah. 1461 01:31:39,359 --> 01:31:42,929 Well, that's being said on C span, too. 1462 01:31:43,200 --> 01:31:47,130 And there's another C span clip that I have to pull. Because, 1463 01:31:47,130 --> 01:31:52,830 you know, amidst all of the real news about flights not being to 1464 01:31:52,830 --> 01:31:59,670 fly in Europe, there's a there's financial hearings going on, 1465 01:32:00,390 --> 01:32:07,530 that are about this very topic. And the the chief of mortgages 1466 01:32:07,560 --> 01:32:11,970 of JP Morgan Chase, David Loman, was asked by, I think, Barney 1467 01:32:11,970 --> 01:32:18,330 Frank, that's why I gotta find this. He said. So if mortgage 1468 01:32:18,330 --> 01:32:21,930 borrowers you know, can't get a mortgage, who do they turn to? 1469 01:32:22,620 --> 01:32:27,630 So David Loman says, Come to me. minutes later, about 50 1470 01:32:27,630 --> 01:32:30,960 borrowers from the audience burst through the gate and 1471 01:32:30,960 --> 01:32:37,860 started surrounding him saying, Hey, I'm here and he ran away I 1472 01:32:37,860 --> 01:32:40,140 don't know if they actually aired that or not, but I have to 1473 01:32:40,140 --> 01:32:44,190 find that come to me and they came to him and he ran away. 1474 01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:51,600 Bastard another liar. Yeah, it's just unbelievable. Unbelievable. 1475 01:32:51,600 --> 01:32:56,040 And then of course the don't look over here. Nothing to see. 1476 01:32:56,640 --> 01:33:01,350 Look at back is this Oh, the SEC is suing Goldman Sachs no one's 1477 01:33:01,350 --> 01:33:06,180 gonna go to jail. It's like they screwed their customers so what 1478 01:33:06,180 --> 01:33:10,410 a bunch of rich people no one's no one's gonna they might pay a 1479 01:33:10,410 --> 01:33:11,760 fine 100 million dollar 1480 01:33:11,760 --> 01:33:14,490 fines but the fines will be well within it'd be like you paying a 1481 01:33:14,490 --> 01:33:15,150 parking ticket 1482 01:33:15,990 --> 01:33:19,380 100 million here Yeah, and let me tell you take a check. No 1483 01:33:19,380 --> 01:33:22,140 problem that's what it's gonna be and that's like even a hedge 1484 01:33:22,140 --> 01:33:24,690 fund people like Oh, we're so happy Goldman's get What are you 1485 01:33:24,690 --> 01:33:30,030 talking about? The scam is $23 trillion 100 million it's not 1486 01:33:30,030 --> 01:33:33,690 gonna make any difference. Just take their bids. Here's my check 1487 01:33:33,690 --> 01:33:34,860 personal check even 1488 01:33:35,100 --> 01:33:38,070 requested there's a study another another see here moment 1489 01:33:38,070 --> 01:33:41,070 was on CNBC, which a lot of people didn't get to see I think 1490 01:33:41,070 --> 01:33:43,470 we have we have this on the blog. You can read it. Look at 1491 01:33:43,470 --> 01:33:49,530 it. Apparently they brought some guy on some some financial math 1492 01:33:49,530 --> 01:33:55,020 guy wizard. He comes on and they put up a four quad box up with 1493 01:33:55,380 --> 01:33:58,200 our friend from the Council on Foreign Relations. Aaron, 1494 01:33:58,500 --> 01:33:59,520 Oh, of course. 1495 01:34:01,050 --> 01:34:04,770 The guy, these three people that three people talk and then it 1496 01:34:04,770 --> 01:34:08,760 gets that fourth guy sitting in the sidelines. He immediately 1497 01:34:08,760 --> 01:34:10,440 comes up with the car and they're talking about Goldman 1498 01:34:10,440 --> 01:34:14,160 Sachs. And one of them is Cramer. Jim Kramer and so the 1499 01:34:14,160 --> 01:34:17,400 guy says well now I guess I can talk because after all these 1500 01:34:17,400 --> 01:34:21,570 public relations people for Goldman Sachs are done. What's 1501 01:34:21,570 --> 01:34:27,270 already all you said? Cramer goes ballistic? I'm not a public 1502 01:34:27,270 --> 01:34:31,590 relationship over Goldman Sachs I missed it I'm offended I'm 1503 01:34:31,590 --> 01:34:35,520 offended and you make oh there we go again 1504 01:34:40,649 --> 01:34:44,639 the first secret about Goldman don't talk about Goldman you 1505 01:34:44,639 --> 01:34:45,149 still there? 1506 01:34:45,990 --> 01:34:49,680 Like I'm still here but yeah, we just crapped out for a second. 1507 01:34:49,710 --> 01:34:52,980 Okay, we're good. So anyway, I think it's a very funny clip and 1508 01:34:52,980 --> 01:34:55,950 you get a kick out of it but they threw him off but see 1509 01:34:55,950 --> 01:34:59,010 sights just throwing him your the way you would do this? I 1510 01:34:59,010 --> 01:35:01,920 think I mean, She says worth throwing you off the show. She 1511 01:35:01,920 --> 01:35:06,900 basically she's you have to be more polite. Once you argue on 1512 01:35:06,900 --> 01:35:09,870 the shows, but clearly was not arguing correctly. 1513 01:35:11,040 --> 01:35:15,210 You'll be you'll be very proud of me, John. I have a I have a 1514 01:35:15,210 --> 01:35:17,610 closing clip for today's show, which we'll play after we're 1515 01:35:17,610 --> 01:35:24,600 done. Have my friend Rachel Maddow? Oh, interviewing Janet 1516 01:35:24,600 --> 01:35:28,920 Napolitano. Oh, brother. And I mean, it's an eight minute clip, 1517 01:35:28,920 --> 01:35:31,650 we could actually go through that clip and deconstruct the 1518 01:35:31,650 --> 01:35:35,010 entire thing, but it would take us an hour to do it. But at the 1519 01:35:35,010 --> 01:35:40,140 very end, at the very end of this clip, Maddow actually 1520 01:35:40,140 --> 01:35:45,600 suggest Napolitano should be the incoming Supreme Court justice. 1521 01:35:45,720 --> 01:35:50,490 Oh, no, it was a dike fest. It was one way to play that little 1522 01:35:50,490 --> 01:35:52,710 bit. So fun is 1523 01:35:52,710 --> 01:35:56,370 for the protection of the public safety. There are other reasons 1524 01:35:56,370 --> 01:36:00,210 as well, but it was no surprise to me when I was governor of 1525 01:36:00,210 --> 01:36:02,340 Arizona that bias is 1526 01:36:02,340 --> 01:36:05,910 about the commemoration of the Oklahoma City bombings. Yeah, 1527 01:36:05,910 --> 01:36:08,070 there's a million speeches. Yeah. So here she comes 1528 01:36:08,069 --> 01:36:11,039 large law enforcement, the men and women who are charged with 1529 01:36:11,039 --> 01:36:15,179 protecting public safety oppose legislation like that. One last 1530 01:36:15,180 --> 01:36:17,340 question for you, Madam Secretary. And I'm sure you're 1531 01:36:17,340 --> 01:36:20,670 gonna dodge it, but I'm going to ask it anyway. Ready? Wouldn't 1532 01:36:20,670 --> 01:36:23,970 be wouldn't being on the Supreme Court be a great job? 1533 01:36:26,580 --> 01:36:33,300 Well, nice tribe, flattered to be to be focused on the job. As 1534 01:36:33,300 --> 01:36:34,950 you've already described, it's a big one. 1535 01:36:35,279 --> 01:36:37,409 Secretary of Homeland Security, Janet Nepal. She 1536 01:36:37,410 --> 01:36:41,520 actually does a namaste bout as Napolitana with the end, she is 1537 01:36:41,520 --> 01:36:44,220 Secretary, second Madam Secretary. And she puts her 1538 01:36:44,220 --> 01:36:47,040 hands together, like Namaste, and says, Thank you so much for 1539 01:36:47,040 --> 01:36:49,890 being on the show. Thank you so much for being on the show. And 1540 01:36:49,890 --> 01:36:49,950 I'm 1541 01:36:50,460 --> 01:36:53,220 very, very busy person by definition. Thank you so much 1542 01:36:53,220 --> 01:36:54,660 for joining us tonight. Appreciate your time. 1543 01:36:55,109 --> 01:36:56,279 Thank you for having me. 1544 01:36:56,729 --> 01:37:00,359 I'll play that whole clip it disgusting. It's unbelievable. 1545 01:37:00,359 --> 01:37:04,169 When you hear the whole thing. You'll just go ha. Anyway, 1546 01:37:04,169 --> 01:37:06,629 that's coming up in a bit after we close it. 1547 01:37:06,660 --> 01:37:09,270 Yeah, I only have one clip, which is kind of interesting. 1548 01:37:09,450 --> 01:37:13,170 Because I you know, I don't know how anyone could I don't have a 1549 01:37:13,200 --> 01:37:15,330 thing that gets people's names, you know, because I can't 1550 01:37:15,330 --> 01:37:18,480 pronounce them apparently, but, but Blanche always seems to be 1551 01:37:18,480 --> 01:37:22,260 some sort of a name for like, yeah, it's just Well, I was 1552 01:37:22,260 --> 01:37:26,790 gonna say wife on a sitcom. Yeah. So here's a little clip. 1553 01:37:27,390 --> 01:37:31,170 Take your nose whistling. No, that was actually my my squeaky 1554 01:37:31,170 --> 01:37:35,310 voice when I okay. I don't know how that happened. The 1555 01:37:35,310 --> 01:37:40,080 chemtrails It's a strange sound. Anyway, so play the this thing. 1556 01:37:40,080 --> 01:37:41,760 And then I want to just make a comment 1557 01:37:42,090 --> 01:37:45,330 is short selling a derivative? Wait, wait, stop. 1558 01:37:46,050 --> 01:37:48,990 This is again on C span. And this is an interview that went 1559 01:37:48,990 --> 01:37:51,750 on it was quite interesting. It's another book that might be 1560 01:37:51,750 --> 01:37:55,620 worth looking at. It's called Don't blame the shorts. And this 1561 01:37:55,620 --> 01:37:58,440 is the author and they were talking about short selling and 1562 01:37:58,440 --> 01:38:00,930 how well you know it helps to balance markets and why it's 1563 01:38:00,930 --> 01:38:03,150 important and why people should do short sellers should never be 1564 01:38:03,150 --> 01:38:04,650 blamed for anything because they're not really doing 1565 01:38:04,650 --> 01:38:07,830 anything wrong. And Horowitz and I have discussed this particular 1566 01:38:07,830 --> 01:38:10,200 issue numerous times on DH unplugged, we have to 1567 01:38:10,199 --> 01:38:14,039 be able to speculate on a market going up and down. Right That's 1568 01:38:15,029 --> 01:38:17,249 it, it helps balance things that you know when something goes up 1569 01:38:17,249 --> 01:38:18,899 too much. And you know, the shorts will come in because they 1570 01:38:18,899 --> 01:38:20,819 think it's going up too much. It'll stabilise it actually 1571 01:38:20,819 --> 01:38:25,169 stabilises the market instead of something just going crazy and 1572 01:38:25,169 --> 01:38:28,169 then crashing, you know, so it's a very important function that 1573 01:38:28,169 --> 01:38:30,149 you actually have it and this guy explains it very well, this 1574 01:38:30,149 --> 01:38:32,969 book, but this little topic comes up which flabbergast the 1575 01:38:32,969 --> 01:38:36,119 guy when when the question is asked not to mention the fact 1576 01:38:36,119 --> 01:38:38,759 that the interviewer doesn't even know what short selling is. 1577 01:38:39,870 --> 01:38:44,010 Name is Blanche, Is she hot? Blanche Lincoln? I don't know 1578 01:38:44,189 --> 01:38:47,099 if she's you, but this listen, and you can go look her up while 1579 01:38:47,099 --> 01:38:49,169 you're playing 1580 01:38:49,170 --> 01:38:50,730 solid? No. Okay. 1581 01:38:51,089 --> 01:38:55,949 Short selling a derivative. And would you comment on Senator 1582 01:38:55,949 --> 01:39:00,629 Blanche Lincoln's proposal to prohibit all derivative 1583 01:39:00,629 --> 01:39:01,739 transactions? 1584 01:39:02,460 --> 01:39:06,900 Well, you know, proposing to eliminate all derivative 1585 01:39:06,900 --> 01:39:10,710 transactions is I think, in this day and age is like saying, 1586 01:39:10,710 --> 01:39:16,260 let's propose a law that says we can't drive we need whether we 1587 01:39:16,260 --> 01:39:19,110 like it or not, and whether we think people act responsibly or 1588 01:39:19,110 --> 01:39:22,800 not. The fact is, is that bank balance sheets, and what's on 1589 01:39:22,800 --> 01:39:27,660 the balance sheets of these banks? is almost the size of the 1590 01:39:28,110 --> 01:39:33,000 GDP. They are part of our economy. And I think disallowing 1591 01:39:33,000 --> 01:39:37,830 derivatives and just saying we're gonna ban it. You know, I 1592 01:39:37,830 --> 01:39:40,980 don't know how you would get anything done. I don't know how 1593 01:39:40,980 --> 01:39:45,240 we would issue treasury bills, for example, to finance all the 1594 01:39:45,300 --> 01:39:48,000 health care and other things that we want to use our money 1595 01:39:48,000 --> 01:39:50,340 for. Robert Sloane 1596 01:39:50,340 --> 01:39:52,800 is our guest tell us what s3 partners is. 1597 01:39:53,670 --> 01:39:54,960 Alright, that's that. 1598 01:39:55,590 --> 01:39:59,970 So I was actually flabbergasted I didn't surprise the beginning. 1599 01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:04,500 even more publicity that some senator from the United States 1600 01:40:04,500 --> 01:40:07,440 of America would make a suggestion that we ban all I 1601 01:40:07,440 --> 01:40:11,310 mean, essentially, it is based the dollar bill itself is a 1602 01:40:11,310 --> 01:40:16,440 derivative. It doesn't really have any paper. But the fact 1603 01:40:16,440 --> 01:40:19,500 that somebody would suggest this because she read something about 1604 01:40:19,500 --> 01:40:22,170 credit default swaps being the problem or something like that 1605 01:40:22,800 --> 01:40:27,960 indicates to me that some people are idiots and they shouldn't be 1606 01:40:27,960 --> 01:40:31,290 in office. Now, this woman is a Democrat in Arkansas. And 1607 01:40:31,440 --> 01:40:34,080 apparently, she's not going to be in office for much longer. I 1608 01:40:34,080 --> 01:40:37,140 did a little research and discovered that she's not well, 1609 01:40:37,440 --> 01:40:37,620 let me 1610 01:40:37,619 --> 01:40:41,009 just say if she's the kind of chick if she if she hovered, 1611 01:40:41,009 --> 01:40:44,069 she's hovering above you, and then pulls out the bobby pin and 1612 01:40:44,069 --> 01:40:49,259 the hair flows down. She could be pretty hot. So 1613 01:40:50,640 --> 01:40:55,170 I get that impression. But for you, yeah, cuz you like that 1614 01:40:55,170 --> 01:40:59,280 type. millfields. He's told me very MILFy. But the fact is, 1615 01:40:59,280 --> 01:41:01,020 she's obviously an idiot. 1616 01:41:01,830 --> 01:41:08,970 That's the best kind. What are you talking about? Please, vote 1617 01:41:08,970 --> 01:41:15,570 her out. Oh, my goodness. So the one thing that I mean, there's 1618 01:41:15,570 --> 01:41:21,210 only so much work I can do. Based upon the finances of the 1619 01:41:21,210 --> 01:41:26,220 show and other work that has to be done. I was not able to get a 1620 01:41:26,220 --> 01:41:31,800 video of the first American eyes debate over and get more nation 1621 01:41:31,830 --> 01:41:37,110 East United Kingdom as they are now moving into election season. 1622 01:41:37,650 --> 01:41:43,110 But I did see everyone going, Oh, Nick Clegg. Nick Clegg. He's 1623 01:41:43,110 --> 01:41:47,520 great. He's the guy he really did it. For me. Nick Clegg. Nick 1624 01:41:47,520 --> 01:41:52,260 Clegg is he's a new hero, Nick Clegg. It's time for change. So 1625 01:41:52,260 --> 01:41:55,830 they're doing this. This these election debates America 1626 01:41:55,830 --> 01:41:57,240 Americana style. 1627 01:41:57,270 --> 01:41:59,550 Yeah. There's they put three people up in front of the 1628 01:41:59,550 --> 01:42:03,180 audience American style. And it's I mean, it's more of the 1629 01:42:03,210 --> 01:42:05,940 real debates in parliament where they actually yell at each other 1630 01:42:05,940 --> 01:42:07,530 is more interesting than this crap. 1631 01:42:07,560 --> 01:42:11,070 Well, so so they're kind of doing it on an 80s game show 1632 01:42:11,070 --> 01:42:15,930 set? Yep. And so I see one article, which I kind of liked. 1633 01:42:16,980 --> 01:42:20,670 From the from the telegraph, Nick Clegg, the new Susan Boyle 1634 01:42:20,670 --> 01:42:24,150 and politics. So this guy is like, he's coming out of nowhere 1635 01:42:24,150 --> 01:42:27,720 and he's with the Lib Dems that he's awesome. Let me just give 1636 01:42:27,720 --> 01:42:31,500 you a little background on Nick Clegg. So he is the leader of 1637 01:42:31,500 --> 01:42:35,130 the UK Liberal Democrat Party. He supports the war in 1638 01:42:35,130 --> 01:42:41,430 Afghanistan. He's an elite his mother youlet. EULA Lee Herman's 1639 01:42:41,460 --> 01:42:46,020 founder vol Baca is Dutch. His father is the son of a half 1640 01:42:46,020 --> 01:42:50,190 Russian merchant banker. In fact, his dad is the chairman of 1641 01:42:50,190 --> 01:42:54,240 the United Trust Bank. This guy is so connected, connected to 1642 01:42:54,240 --> 01:42:59,880 Russian nobility. His great aunt was the Russian spy Baroness 1643 01:42:59,880 --> 01:43:04,200 Moura booth Berg burnings housing. She was the Mistress of 1644 01:43:04,200 --> 01:43:08,760 the British spy Bruce Lockhart. she spied for the Soviet Union 1645 01:43:08,760 --> 01:43:12,150 in the 20s and was described by MI five as a very dangerous 1646 01:43:12,150 --> 01:43:16,770 woman. I mean, this guy is so connected so he is a complete 1647 01:43:16,800 --> 01:43:21,000 elitist, and everyone's running away like oh, he's wonderful. 1648 01:43:21,000 --> 01:43:24,990 Nick Clegg, he's saying it and he's like this young dapper kind 1649 01:43:24,990 --> 01:43:29,490 of boy. So you watch Gitmo nation east? It's coming upon 1650 01:43:29,490 --> 01:43:34,230 you now. There it's a total it's a TV show. You're watching 1651 01:43:34,230 --> 01:43:36,750 you're not watching elections. You're watching a television 1652 01:43:36,750 --> 01:43:38,610 show. It's a reality show. 1653 01:43:38,849 --> 01:43:44,219 Jason Cameron a shoo in on this election? Just setting this guy 1654 01:43:44,219 --> 01:43:45,029 up for the next time. 1655 01:43:45,059 --> 01:43:48,029 No, I think Clegg is I think he's coming out of left field. I 1656 01:43:48,029 --> 01:43:51,779 don't know where he's going to be like the new hope. Sound like 1657 01:43:51,809 --> 01:43:54,689 anything you've you've seen happened recently in a country. 1658 01:43:56,099 --> 01:43:59,579 Oh, by the way, speaking of such American thinker had a great 1659 01:43:59,579 --> 01:44:05,429 post American thinker.com title of it Obama's missing 1660 01:44:05,429 --> 01:44:10,379 girlfriends and I really liked this in all the books written 1661 01:44:10,379 --> 01:44:14,699 about Obama even his own book, there's mention of you know the 1662 01:44:14,699 --> 01:44:18,269 many girlfriends and everything but where are they? Who are 1663 01:44:18,269 --> 01:44:24,119 they? Will the real girlfriends of Obama please step forward? No 1664 01:44:24,119 --> 01:44:28,709 one has ever spoken to or heard of or interviewed any of Obama's 1665 01:44:28,739 --> 01:44:33,449 girlfriends that's interesting. Angle is it's a good story it's 1666 01:44:33,449 --> 01:44:37,469 in the show notes at no agenda show.com which are packed once 1667 01:44:37,469 --> 01:44:40,799 again today. And we have a subscription box you can sign up 1668 01:44:40,799 --> 01:44:43,949 to will soon be sending them out via email is it can that really 1669 01:44:43,949 --> 01:44:45,869 happen soon. John, how are the signups going? 1670 01:44:46,380 --> 01:44:51,090 We need a new either they're not as strong as I hope I get. I'm 1671 01:44:51,090 --> 01:44:53,940 not sure what we'll do give us another week. Okay. 1672 01:44:55,229 --> 01:45:00,479 But anyway, I'm like, wow, that was an interesting angle. Mmm. 1673 01:45:00,929 --> 01:45:02,729 And if you know one of his group, they're 1674 01:45:02,729 --> 01:45:03,749 all dead. Yeah. 1675 01:45:06,720 --> 01:45:12,930 I wonder, wonder what happened to them? Couple of things just 1676 01:45:12,930 --> 01:45:16,200 to clear. This, by the way is a nice little note of hope, I 1677 01:45:16,200 --> 01:45:20,880 guess in a way. In the morning Adam Ajaan. I'm Dieter Archer, a 1678 01:45:20,880 --> 01:45:24,270 14 year old no agenda listener. My friend Kevin Porter turned me 1679 01:45:24,270 --> 01:45:27,270 on to the show about a year ago, I tried to get my dad to listen 1680 01:45:27,270 --> 01:45:32,370 to no agenda, but he thinks what you guys say is just crazy. I 1681 01:45:32,370 --> 01:45:34,740 want to tell you, in short, what I am learning 1682 01:45:34,740 --> 01:45:38,790 crazy, is playing clips and letting other people say it. 1683 01:45:38,850 --> 01:45:43,050 You're crazy. I want to tell you in short, what I am learning in 1684 01:45:43,050 --> 01:45:46,350 school about the Civil War this has been a topic for the past 1685 01:45:46,350 --> 01:45:50,490 three episodes of no agenda show. Basically, I am being 1686 01:45:50,490 --> 01:45:54,450 taught that slavery is the big reason why we had the war. My 1687 01:45:54,450 --> 01:45:58,590 book teaches me all about the compromises the north and the 1688 01:45:58,590 --> 01:46:02,550 south made to keep the Union together. But all the teachers 1689 01:46:02,550 --> 01:46:05,610 say is how the north and south were fighting overstates being 1690 01:46:05,610 --> 01:46:09,750 slave of or slave or free states. I asked my teacher of 1691 01:46:09,750 --> 01:46:11,910 the civil war could have happened because of Britain and 1692 01:46:11,910 --> 01:46:16,230 France. But she said it was not possible and did not happen. I 1693 01:46:16,230 --> 01:46:19,020 really liked I really liked no agenda. I always greet people 1694 01:46:19,020 --> 01:46:22,260 with an in the morning, but they don't get it. I was going to try 1695 01:46:22,260 --> 01:46:25,140 to start a podcast with Kevin wondering if we could be allowed 1696 01:46:25,140 --> 01:46:27,630 to greet each other with an in the morning and say stuff like 1697 01:46:27,630 --> 01:46:30,720 what you guys have in the jingles. Hope to do the head is 1698 01:46:30,720 --> 01:46:34,770 not in your future. Sincerely, Dieter, Archer, Dieter, Please 1699 01:46:34,800 --> 01:46:37,860 steal all of our jingles start your show, we'll promote it. 1700 01:46:38,160 --> 01:46:40,710 Our show is open source. Yeah, of course. So 1701 01:46:40,710 --> 01:46:43,830 that's the whole point you can make money off of it. We got no 1702 01:46:43,830 --> 01:46:47,220 agenda stuff.com Just in the summer, from time to time, help 1703 01:46:47,220 --> 01:46:49,590 us out. We don't want to have to manage any of that crap. 1704 01:46:49,710 --> 01:46:51,600 Yeah, no, that's what we're that's exactly what we're 1705 01:46:51,600 --> 01:46:53,610 saying. That's our thinking is this. And I've talked to people 1706 01:46:53,610 --> 01:46:56,760 about this. So well, you know, just begging for money. And 1707 01:46:56,790 --> 01:46:59,250 saying, you know, the great thing about begging for money, 1708 01:46:59,850 --> 01:47:02,400 which we have to do to support the show, but people do it 1709 01:47:02,400 --> 01:47:05,910 voluntarily and they give us they help us to contribute to 1710 01:47:05,910 --> 01:47:11,010 the, to the show, and is that I think just go steal the show, 1711 01:47:11,010 --> 01:47:14,220 run it on your own blog, take good copies of it and pass them 1712 01:47:14,220 --> 01:47:17,340 around. Because the we don't have we don't like we're not 1713 01:47:17,340 --> 01:47:20,940 counting numbers we don't need to know for for our Nielsen 1714 01:47:20,940 --> 01:47:23,280 rating. So we can tell an advertiser that well, we got 1715 01:47:23,280 --> 01:47:25,830 this many people listening today. We don't have to do any 1716 01:47:25,830 --> 01:47:28,200 of that. So the show can just go out too because the idea is to 1717 01:47:28,200 --> 01:47:31,140 get this show out and have people listen to it. All we're 1718 01:47:31,140 --> 01:47:35,340 trying to do here is get people to think critically. That's all 1719 01:47:35,340 --> 01:47:38,430 we That's our only goal and I'm still disappointed every so 1720 01:47:38,430 --> 01:47:41,940 often when somebody sends me here look at this and it's 1721 01:47:41,940 --> 01:47:46,230 either a look over there moment or some other piece of crap that 1722 01:47:46,230 --> 01:47:49,680 you know, it's like think about this think more critically. What 1723 01:47:49,710 --> 01:47:52,860 Why is this thing showing up on your doorstep? Is it or there's 1724 01:47:52,860 --> 01:47:54,570 there's some rationale they're trying to make you think a 1725 01:47:54,570 --> 01:47:58,530 certain way are you trying to trying to be most of the stuff 1726 01:47:58,530 --> 01:48:00,690 that goes on in the media is trying to trick you 1727 01:48:02,819 --> 01:48:07,949 think about this one April 13 and executive order from our our 1728 01:48:07,949 --> 01:48:13,169 president a blocking property of certain persons contributing to 1729 01:48:13,169 --> 01:48:20,909 the conflict in Somalia This is a presidential order basically. 1730 01:48:21,449 --> 01:48:23,009 We're Somali again, John, 1731 01:48:23,460 --> 01:48:25,740 in Africa. Then we have pirates 1732 01:48:25,740 --> 01:48:26,370 around there. 1733 01:48:27,240 --> 01:48:31,890 There's a pirate phenomenon. Yes. And and there's also a 1734 01:48:32,820 --> 01:48:35,670 there your your idiotic star. 1735 01:48:36,510 --> 01:48:40,260 Exactly. Thank you very much. You call it idiotic? But now the 1736 01:48:40,260 --> 01:48:44,400 president is if having 300 warships around the Stargate 1737 01:48:44,400 --> 01:48:49,050 wasn't enough now you can't you can't go there you can't take 1738 01:48:49,050 --> 01:48:51,600 money from there you can't support companies that do 1739 01:48:51,600 --> 01:48:55,560 business there stay away stay away because we're protecting 1740 01:48:55,560 --> 01:48:59,460 the star gate not reported at all by the way in the individual 1741 01:48:59,460 --> 01:48:59,790 ID 1742 01:48:59,790 --> 01:49:01,800 eaters dad thinks that the show's crazy 1743 01:49:03,630 --> 01:49:08,610 yeah, wait until that fucker opens not reported at all. Screw 1744 01:49:08,610 --> 01:49:15,390 you. Screw your door egg. Screw you. Okay, there's a couple of 1745 01:49:15,390 --> 01:49:21,000 links about the polish to to the head. Interestingly enough, 1746 01:49:22,080 --> 01:49:29,040 there actually was some good ground to air guidance systems 1747 01:49:29,640 --> 01:49:34,410 installed there when I think Putin flew there a couple of 1748 01:49:34,410 --> 01:49:40,080 months ago. And apparently it was either a removed or be not 1749 01:49:40,080 --> 01:49:44,610 turned on. When a known flight was coming in. This thing is so 1750 01:49:44,640 --> 01:49:50,940 so full crap. He's like, Oh, the crash because of the mist. And 1751 01:49:50,940 --> 01:49:54,060 now and now they can now the story is the plane clipped a 1752 01:49:54,060 --> 01:49:55,170 birch tree? 1753 01:49:56,850 --> 01:49:58,770 Oh, they changed it. Yeah, it clipped 1754 01:49:58,979 --> 01:50:01,829 instead of clipping in At first I said it clicked an antenna now 1755 01:50:01,829 --> 01:50:06,149 it no it clicked a birch tree. Is that big ass plane? Let me 1756 01:50:06,149 --> 01:50:10,859 see plane birch tree who's gonna win? clipped a birch tree 1757 01:50:10,859 --> 01:50:15,599 indeed. David the birch trees even grow there. I would think 1758 01:50:15,599 --> 01:50:17,969 so. Yeah, I don't know this cold. Yeah, no birch tree is a 1759 01:50:17,969 --> 01:50:24,149 cold weather tree. Okay. Does it snap easily? To hardwood? Okay. 1760 01:50:24,659 --> 01:50:27,659 So it might Oh, it's just like, 1761 01:50:29,069 --> 01:50:31,979 all right, sure. If there's a 50 foot wide birch tree, it would 1762 01:50:31,979 --> 01:50:34,469 probably have some you know, the plane would be at a 1763 01:50:34,469 --> 01:50:35,219 disadvantage. 1764 01:50:36,390 --> 01:50:39,960 coming up in May just y'all can read it, get ready for it. The 1765 01:50:39,960 --> 01:50:47,520 FEMA national level exercise and le 10. The exercise is meant for 1766 01:50:47,820 --> 01:50:53,220 preparedness and readiness. Tier one national level exercise as 1767 01:50:53,220 --> 01:50:56,190 per the national exercise programme, it is domestic 1768 01:50:56,190 --> 01:51:01,350 terrorism focused, guided by national planning scenario 1769 01:51:01,350 --> 01:51:06,060 number one, what could that be John? How about nuclear 1770 01:51:06,060 --> 01:51:07,140 detonation? 1771 01:51:08,250 --> 01:51:09,540 Is that what it is going to be? 1772 01:51:09,569 --> 01:51:12,149 Yep. guided by national planning scenario 1773 01:51:13,019 --> 01:51:15,359 works. When did that movie gonna premiere? 1774 01:51:16,080 --> 01:51:19,740 The movies? It was brilliant. Didn't you see it? It's 1775 01:51:19,740 --> 01:51:20,310 countdown. 1776 01:51:21,090 --> 01:51:23,700 Maybe you know, we've we've discussed this in the past. We 1777 01:51:23,700 --> 01:51:26,130 haven't done it so much recently. But every so often, 1778 01:51:26,130 --> 01:51:28,980 something comes out that's gonna get a lot of publicity, and 1779 01:51:28,980 --> 01:51:34,380 coincidentally promote a movie. Yep, here it is. Here it is. 1780 01:51:34,590 --> 01:51:35,760 This is a movie promotion. 1781 01:51:35,790 --> 01:51:41,100 This is promotion for the movie. And to make you afraid. That's 1782 01:51:41,100 --> 01:51:44,190 what it's all for. Just make you scared. 1783 01:51:44,369 --> 01:51:47,519 Go the movie. The movie in combination with the movie? I'm 1784 01:51:47,519 --> 01:51:48,989 sure you'll be shaking in your boots. 1785 01:51:50,430 --> 01:51:56,160 All right. See anything else? Speaking of movies, David that 1786 01:51:56,190 --> 01:52:01,830 was what's his name? The director of Avatar. Yeah. 1787 01:52:03,690 --> 01:52:08,820 Cameron, David Cameron, probably this probably brothers. In 1788 01:52:08,820 --> 01:52:11,490 Brazil, a judge on Friday overturned a decision that could 1789 01:52:11,490 --> 01:52:15,420 have delayed construction of a huge Amazon dam opposed by 1790 01:52:15,420 --> 01:52:21,390 environmentalists, Indians and the director of Avatar according 1791 01:52:21,390 --> 01:52:26,070 to Associated Press. James Cameron, he's got to do with it. 1792 01:52:26,730 --> 01:52:30,510 Well, he's memory we play that clip he's like I have so my fuck 1793 01:52:30,510 --> 01:52:34,470 you money now. I'm gonna go save the world. Stop the dams. The 1794 01:52:34,470 --> 01:52:41,070 dams are killing the world as a way is wrong with dams. And 1795 01:52:41,070 --> 01:52:44,850 Sigourney Weaver who starred in Avatar accompanied Cameron 1796 01:52:45,420 --> 01:52:47,490 doe. I wonder what's up with those two? 1797 01:52:49,620 --> 01:52:53,280 Of course, the visit was reminiscent of a 1989 trip by 1798 01:52:53,280 --> 01:53:00,060 Rockstar stink. who protested the same damn. Alongside Indians 1799 01:53:00,060 --> 01:53:06,150 with big plates in their mouths for visual effect? What is the 1800 01:53:06,150 --> 01:53:09,480 problem? Damn is for hydroelectric power? 1801 01:53:10,470 --> 01:53:12,660 Green Energy, man green energy. No, no, 1802 01:53:12,660 --> 01:53:15,420 but the environmentalists are against it. It's the the cause 1803 01:53:15,420 --> 01:53:17,610 of the damage the dam would cause 1804 01:53:17,909 --> 01:53:23,759 in Africa, Brazil, on Brazil, what damages are going to cause 1805 01:53:23,789 --> 01:53:24,419 I don't know 1806 01:53:24,420 --> 01:53:27,630 this isn't enough for Cameron to fly down their bone and 1807 01:53:27,630 --> 01:53:32,250 Sigourney Weaver. And talking to stinks friends to say whoa, we 1808 01:53:32,250 --> 01:53:33,360 have to stop this 1809 01:53:33,840 --> 01:53:35,430 party, some drinking club. 1810 01:53:40,109 --> 01:53:45,179 And President Obama dutifully released his tax returns, He 1811 01:53:45,179 --> 01:53:50,579 made 5 million bucks last year. And when what? I don't know if 1812 01:53:50,579 --> 01:53:52,379 it's specified that way, 1813 01:53:52,740 --> 01:53:54,780 how does it How does it understanding president makes 5 1814 01:53:54,780 --> 01:53:56,460 million bucks during his term in office? 1815 01:53:58,109 --> 01:54:00,959 Well, jointly, they reported their adjusted adjusted gross 1816 01:54:00,959 --> 01:54:09,809 income is 5,505,409. They paid $1.792 million in federal income 1817 01:54:09,809 --> 01:54:15,599 tax charitable contributions. 329 he did give away his $1.4 1818 01:54:15,599 --> 01:54:18,449 million Nobel Peace Prize I guess that was a part of it. But 1819 01:54:18,449 --> 01:54:21,179 still, it's a cool three and a half minutes or like 3 million 1820 01:54:21,179 --> 01:54:25,409 he made, which was book and stuff like that. And 1821 01:54:25,559 --> 01:54:28,319 he's way, way, way way. What was his charitable donations, 1822 01:54:29,370 --> 01:54:34,170 his charitable donations 329,001 when there 1823 01:54:34,170 --> 01:54:37,920 was the rest of the money from the Nobel Peace Prize, he would 1824 01:54:37,920 --> 01:54:40,830 have to declare that as income. Well, actually, I take it back. 1825 01:54:41,100 --> 01:54:44,670 He would you get the Nobel Peace, peace prize tax free, so 1826 01:54:44,670 --> 01:54:48,570 that wasn't even counted in his income. So he actually made six 1827 01:54:48,570 --> 01:54:51,990 plus million, and if he gave it away, he could probably in fact, 1828 01:54:51,990 --> 01:54:54,990 I'm sure he could deduct it, and the deduction would be more than 1829 01:54:54,990 --> 01:54:58,980 350,000 bucks. So something's wrong with these numbers. Not 1830 01:54:58,980 --> 01:55:08,370 bad for a senator Hmm. Former Senator Biden's income was 1831 01:55:08,760 --> 01:55:17,430 Robert Biden's income $333,000. Yeah, I think that's high for 1832 01:55:17,430 --> 01:55:20,490 him. That number having no money, 1833 01:55:20,519 --> 01:55:23,819 it's the magic numbers. 333,000 1834 01:55:24,119 --> 01:55:26,009 Well, that's actually kind of cool. No, I 1835 01:55:26,010 --> 01:55:27,120 like that. That's That's 1836 01:55:27,659 --> 01:55:29,729 Joe Biden should listen to our show. 1837 01:55:32,550 --> 01:55:40,350 It's a big fucking deal, man. No agenda. And then the FBI is 1838 01:55:40,380 --> 01:55:45,270 allowing the Kennedys to keep many of Ted's embarrassing 1839 01:55:45,270 --> 01:55:47,610 records private. How does that work? 1840 01:55:50,790 --> 01:55:53,940 There is do you talk about his pride those are private to begin 1841 01:55:53,940 --> 01:55:57,720 with, right? Those are just his diaries. I guess. I don't know. 1842 01:55:58,529 --> 01:56:02,009 Responding to a newspapers public records requests public 1843 01:56:02,009 --> 01:56:04,319 records request the justice department agency is in the 1844 01:56:04,319 --> 01:56:07,289 process of releasing 1000s of pages of files involving the 1845 01:56:07,289 --> 01:56:10,349 legendary mass Massachusetts democratic died of brain cancer. 1846 01:56:10,559 --> 01:56:14,279 Problem is some of the information from his storied 1847 01:56:14,309 --> 01:56:17,669 decades long political career is likely to upset the family 1848 01:56:17,669 --> 01:56:21,389 according to the FBI. That's why the feds are giving the Kennedy 1849 01:56:21,389 --> 01:56:25,109 clan a rare opportunity to raise objections before the public 1850 01:56:25,109 --> 01:56:32,549 disclosure of his exhaustive and secret FBI file. I guess that's 1851 01:56:32,549 --> 01:56:37,199 Chappaquiddick has something to do with that or who knows? Just 1852 01:56:37,199 --> 01:56:40,319 as interesting if you're if you're an elite, then you get to 1853 01:56:40,319 --> 01:56:43,649 do whatever you want. Sorry, 1854 01:56:43,770 --> 01:56:45,690 I missed your you built you just blanked out. 1855 01:56:45,689 --> 01:56:48,749 I said, if you're an elite, you get to do everything you want. 1856 01:56:49,920 --> 01:56:53,490 Yeah, obviously. Well, I think we're ready to have to wrap this 1857 01:56:53,520 --> 01:56:55,710 thing and get that DeLonge clip played. Yeah, 1858 01:56:55,739 --> 01:56:58,529 that's the Rachel Maddow clip. I do just want to say that 1859 01:56:58,529 --> 01:57:02,639 interesting observation that many of the big health insurance 1860 01:57:02,639 --> 01:57:05,099 companies it has now been revealed. Of course, these are 1861 01:57:05,099 --> 01:57:09,869 really financial companies. And they are directly related to all 1862 01:57:09,869 --> 01:57:13,139 of the big so called banks, investment banks, who don't 1863 01:57:13,139 --> 01:57:17,339 actually hold your money but invest money for rich people and 1864 01:57:17,339 --> 01:57:21,149 themselves. So they invest money, they take your money and 1865 01:57:21,149 --> 01:57:23,879 they invest it make more money out of that pay themselves 1866 01:57:23,879 --> 01:57:27,029 handsome bonuses, and when you need to pay your bill, they fuck 1867 01:57:27,029 --> 01:57:33,239 you. They are investing heavily in fast food restaurants. How 1868 01:57:33,239 --> 01:57:34,109 does that work? Yeah, I 1869 01:57:34,110 --> 01:57:38,460 heard this is hilarious. That's great. So you know, that's 1870 01:57:38,460 --> 01:57:40,200 probably a good investment for them. Yeah, it's 1871 01:57:40,200 --> 01:57:43,350 a great investment. It's just it's, it's a little bit crooked, 1872 01:57:43,350 --> 01:57:47,040 don't you think? Wait a minute. How does that work? Exactly. 1873 01:57:48,510 --> 01:57:51,750 Okay, so coming up the Rachel Maddow eight and a half minute 1874 01:57:51,750 --> 01:57:57,570 interview with Janet Napolitano who was dressed very, very 1875 01:57:57,570 --> 01:58:01,410 feminine ly for the occasion. It's just there's so there's a 1876 01:58:01,440 --> 01:58:04,020 connotation I don't care who they're sleeping with. But it's 1877 01:58:04,020 --> 01:58:07,380 just kind of interesting. And I will put the video in the show 1878 01:58:07,380 --> 01:58:10,770 notes that no agenda show.com So you can see that namaste bow 1879 01:58:11,280 --> 01:58:14,040 that Rachel does to Napoletana but just listen to this whole 1880 01:58:14,040 --> 01:58:17,130 thing you will the words you will say consistently are Oh, 1881 01:58:17,130 --> 01:58:25,050 brother. And well, we'll see how Asha Ash mageddon Does on 1882 01:58:25,050 --> 01:58:25,950 Thursday, John? 1883 01:58:26,370 --> 01:58:28,770 Yeah, yeah, that's probably still be going on. Yeah. 1884 01:58:29,640 --> 01:58:33,210 So coming to you from the hilltop Watchtower crackpot 1885 01:58:33,210 --> 01:58:37,320 command centre where they're still trying to mess with my 1886 01:58:37,320 --> 01:58:41,220 connection here in the People's Republic of Southern California. 1887 01:58:41,220 --> 01:58:43,050 Yay. My name is Adam curry, 1888 01:58:43,320 --> 01:58:45,750 and from Northern Silicon Valley, where I'll probably get 1889 01:58:45,750 --> 01:58:49,590 cut off in a minute. Anyway, I'm John C. Dvorak. We will 1890 01:58:49,590 --> 01:58:53,850 be back on Thursday with the early service on another edition 1891 01:58:54,000 --> 01:58:58,560 of the no agenda show right here at no agenda show.com. 1892 01:59:12,330 --> 01:59:14,760 Joining us now for the interview. I've been very much 1893 01:59:14,760 --> 01:59:16,830 looking forward to this discussion is Secretary of 1894 01:59:16,830 --> 01:59:19,200 Homeland Security. Janet Napolitano. Madam Secretary, 1895 01:59:19,200 --> 01:59:23,490 thank you so much for joining us. Well, thank you. As a US 1896 01:59:23,490 --> 01:59:27,210 attorney in Arizona at the time, 15 years ago, I know that you 1897 01:59:27,210 --> 01:59:30,540 were part of the investigation into the Oklahoma City bombing. 1898 01:59:30,870 --> 01:59:33,810 You'll be participating in the commemoration on Monday. Do you 1899 01:59:33,810 --> 01:59:36,960 feel like we approached the threat of domestic terrorism 1900 01:59:36,960 --> 01:59:39,090 differently now as a country than we did before that 1901 01:59:39,090 --> 01:59:41,340 incident? Well, 1902 01:59:41,580 --> 01:59:45,630 yes, in part because every time there is an incident and and 1903 01:59:45,630 --> 01:59:49,050 it's hard to describe something as horrific as the bombing of 1904 01:59:49,050 --> 01:59:52,830 the Murrah Building as an incident. It was an outrageous 1905 01:59:52,830 --> 01:59:56,790 criminal act. But every time one of those things happens, we 1906 01:59:56,790 --> 02:00:01,410 learn. We apply that in a law enforcement way. To the next set 1907 02:00:01,440 --> 02:00:06,660 of events, so, yes, experience does teach us some things and 1908 02:00:06,660 --> 02:00:11,610 unfortunately, the Murrah Building. Bombing taught us a 1909 02:00:11,610 --> 02:00:12,090 lot 1910 02:00:12,359 --> 02:00:16,019 in in terms of that, and I know that I'm raising a report for 1911 02:00:16,019 --> 02:00:18,569 which there was a lot of political heat. Your department 1912 02:00:18,569 --> 02:00:21,539 got some heat last year when you put out a report that said, the 1913 02:00:21,539 --> 02:00:24,599 current economic and political climate has some similarities to 1914 02:00:24,599 --> 02:00:26,849 the 90s when right wing extremism experienced a 1915 02:00:26,849 --> 02:00:31,349 resurgence. In terms of that report, in terms of your 1916 02:00:31,559 --> 02:00:36,299 government's advice and support to local law enforcement, how do 1917 02:00:36,299 --> 02:00:39,899 you advise them? And how does the country dealing with the 1918 02:00:39,929 --> 02:00:41,789 threat of domestic extremism now? 1919 02:00:42,930 --> 02:00:47,580 Well, what we do is we work with law enforcement to give them 1920 02:00:47,580 --> 02:00:51,090 information, information about threats, that we are seeing 1921 02:00:51,240 --> 02:00:56,040 information about trends that we are discerning so that they are 1922 02:00:56,280 --> 02:00:59,670 better prepared to protect public safety on the ground, and 1923 02:00:59,670 --> 02:01:03,960 we in turn receive information back from local law enforcement. 1924 02:01:03,960 --> 02:01:10,740 And so you know, we will provide information for example, we had 1925 02:01:10,740 --> 02:01:17,340 a recent case, where individuals were buying large amounts of 1926 02:01:17,340 --> 02:01:20,610 hydrogen peroxide to make explosives so it got into the 1927 02:01:20,610 --> 02:01:24,630 news. Well, I do advise local law enforcement to watch for 1928 02:01:24,630 --> 02:01:29,130 unusual purchases of hydrogen peroxide. That's the kind of 1929 02:01:29,160 --> 02:01:32,520 direct tactical information that we want to get into the hands of 1930 02:01:32,520 --> 02:01:33,270 law enforcement. 1931 02:01:33,330 --> 02:01:36,390 What were some of the things that law enforcement did with 1932 02:01:36,750 --> 02:01:40,170 some of the more extremist militia groups and other 1933 02:01:40,620 --> 02:01:43,410 domestic terrorist organisations as you defined them in the 1934 02:01:43,410 --> 02:01:45,450 report last year? What were some of the things that law 1935 02:01:45,450 --> 02:01:49,590 enforcement did right to essentially stem the growth of 1936 02:01:49,590 --> 02:01:51,420 those groups after Oklahoma City? 1937 02:01:53,130 --> 02:01:58,080 Well, I think, you know, in a way Oklahoma City was was such 1938 02:01:58,080 --> 02:02:04,740 an outrageous criminal act, that it in and of itself, it had an 1939 02:02:04,740 --> 02:02:08,760 effect on the growth of militia movements of armed violent 1940 02:02:08,760 --> 02:02:14,130 militia movements. And so we did see almost an immediate drop off 1941 02:02:14,130 --> 02:02:19,140 after 1995. And, you know, we've had militia groups, our militia 1942 02:02:19,140 --> 02:02:22,770 groups, from time to time throughout throughout American 1943 02:02:22,770 --> 02:02:26,010 history, and indeed, throughout the last decades, they seem to 1944 02:02:26,010 --> 02:02:31,890 kind of come in and come out as circumstances change. But prior 1945 02:02:31,890 --> 02:02:36,630 to 1995, the Murrah Building bombing, they were really a 1946 02:02:36,630 --> 02:02:39,450 rapidly growing phenomenon throughout the United States, 1947 02:02:39,480 --> 02:02:42,480 particularly in some areas of the states like Arizona, where I 1948 02:02:42,480 --> 02:02:45,300 was the United States Attorney, then they seem to have 1949 02:02:45,300 --> 02:02:49,200 dissipated. And now of course, recently, recent events show us 1950 02:02:49,200 --> 02:02:53,730 that we have some groups starting up again, considering 1951 02:02:53,729 --> 02:02:56,969 the threat of terror from abroad and Department of Homeland 1952 02:02:56,969 --> 02:03:00,929 Security's role in international counterterrorism. I know that 1953 02:03:00,929 --> 02:03:03,929 you're just back from Nigeria, the home country of the 1954 02:03:03,929 --> 02:03:06,449 attempted Christmas Day bomber, I know you were there to meet 1955 02:03:06,449 --> 02:03:09,239 with leaders of a whole host of African countries, about 1956 02:03:09,239 --> 02:03:13,289 boosting the international side of airlines security, what what 1957 02:03:13,289 --> 02:03:15,509 was accomplished there, what are what are leaders agreeing to to 1958 02:03:15,509 --> 02:03:16,859 try to fill some of those gaps. 1959 02:03:17,250 --> 02:03:22,020 Now, really, it's a it's an amazing global response to the 1960 02:03:22,020 --> 02:03:25,920 attempted bombing on Christmas Day where region by region 1961 02:03:25,920 --> 02:03:30,420 around the world, we are forging a consensus about information 1962 02:03:30,450 --> 02:03:34,680 collection, information sharing, passenger vetting, and improved 1963 02:03:34,680 --> 02:03:39,210 security at airports. I think people already will have seen 1964 02:03:39,210 --> 02:03:43,740 some of the things going into place in airports in the United 1965 02:03:43,740 --> 02:03:47,790 States. It's objectively better technology for discerning 1966 02:03:47,790 --> 02:03:50,430 someone who may be trying to bring explosives or other 1967 02:03:50,430 --> 02:03:54,450 material onto an aeroplane. But we're seeing the same kind of 1968 02:03:54,450 --> 02:03:58,590 response internationally. And it was particularly encouraging to 1969 02:03:58,590 --> 02:04:02,070 see it amongst the union of African nations over this past 1970 02:04:02,070 --> 02:04:02,520 weekend. 1971 02:04:03,120 --> 02:04:06,360 I was thinking about the preparing for this interview, 1972 02:04:06,420 --> 02:04:09,690 this chance to talk to you today and trying to narrow down all 1973 02:04:09,690 --> 02:04:12,360 the things that are in your purview as Secretary of Homeland 1974 02:04:12,360 --> 02:04:13,050 Security. 1975 02:04:14,100 --> 02:04:15,660 Good luck with that. Exactly. 1976 02:04:15,689 --> 02:04:19,829 I mean, there's something like 200,000 employees in this agency 1977 02:04:19,829 --> 02:04:25,199 22 agencies all brought under one everything from FEMA and 1978 02:04:25,199 --> 02:04:30,119 airline security and and h one and one and, and drugs and 1979 02:04:30,119 --> 02:04:33,599 immigration and all of these different things. I don't know 1980 02:04:33,599 --> 02:04:36,629 that you can actually answer this and still be politic. But 1981 02:04:36,869 --> 02:04:39,539 does the Department of Homeland Security makes sense that it's 1982 02:04:39,539 --> 02:04:43,079 one thing? I'm not sure that I'm not sure what the advantage is 1983 02:04:43,169 --> 02:04:45,509 that all of these things are in one agency now. 1984 02:04:46,200 --> 02:04:51,600 Look, it was born out of a 911 and I think it does make sense 1985 02:04:51,600 --> 02:04:55,950 but you have to kind of take all those 22 agencies and and boil 1986 02:04:55,950 --> 02:05:00,000 them down into what are the major missions that we are folk 1987 02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:04,920 Just upon so that we can really sculpt a vision for the entire 1988 02:05:04,920 --> 02:05:07,950 department. And so, when you do that, you know, we're really 1989 02:05:07,950 --> 02:05:13,050 focused on counterterrorism, we're focusing on securing our 1990 02:05:13,050 --> 02:05:17,100 borders, be they land, air or sea, we're focused on 1991 02:05:17,130 --> 02:05:21,360 immigration, immigration enforcement, even as we advocate 1992 02:05:21,390 --> 02:05:24,870 for reform of the immigration laws. We're focused on 1993 02:05:24,870 --> 02:05:29,010 protection of cyberspace. And I think we're the first US 1994 02:05:29,010 --> 02:05:32,100 department that's really singled that out, as, you know, kind of 1995 02:05:32,100 --> 02:05:35,490 the next wave of things that needs our focus. And then 1996 02:05:35,490 --> 02:05:39,840 finally, the ability to respond, prepare for and respond to 1997 02:05:40,140 --> 02:05:43,680 natural disasters. And when you when boiled down to those five 1998 02:05:43,680 --> 02:05:47,070 major functions, then you can really see how the department 1999 02:05:47,070 --> 02:05:49,440 and all of its various components make sense. 2000 02:05:49,800 --> 02:05:52,110 I could also see how if I had your job, I'd want to clone 2001 02:05:52,110 --> 02:05:55,800 myself five times. So one person that charged me to those things, 2002 02:05:55,950 --> 02:06:03,090 plus a spare to rest. on that issue of immigration, not in 2003 02:06:03,090 --> 02:06:05,100 your department of homeland security purview, because this 2004 02:06:05,100 --> 02:06:08,160 is at the state level, but your home state of Arizona this week 2005 02:06:08,160 --> 02:06:13,770 has passed a very, very, very strong anti immigration bill. I 2006 02:06:13,770 --> 02:06:17,760 think of it as the papers please bill. It compels police officers 2007 02:06:17,760 --> 02:06:21,660 to demand papers from anyone they reasonably suspect of being 2008 02:06:21,660 --> 02:06:24,870 an illegal immigrant. It's now a misdemeanour to not carry your 2009 02:06:24,870 --> 02:06:27,900 immigration paperwork with you at all times in Arizona. Didn't 2010 02:06:27,900 --> 02:06:30,270 you veto something like that when you were Governor there? 2011 02:06:30,899 --> 02:06:35,549 I think I vetoed things like that least twice. And I did 2012 02:06:35,549 --> 02:06:40,019 because first of all, immigration is primarily 2013 02:06:40,019 --> 02:06:44,189 federal, not exclusively, but primarily federally, federal. 2014 02:06:44,189 --> 02:06:49,289 But secondly, it doesn't allow law enforcement to focus on 2015 02:06:49,289 --> 02:06:53,609 where law enforcement needs to focus and to prioritise the way 2016 02:06:53,609 --> 02:06:56,339 law enforcement needs the ability to prioritise for the 2017 02:06:56,339 --> 02:07:00,329 protection of the public safety. There are other reasons as well, 2018 02:07:00,329 --> 02:07:04,409 but it was no surprise to me when I was governor of Arizona 2019 02:07:04,409 --> 02:07:07,709 that by and large law enforcement, the men and women 2020 02:07:07,709 --> 02:07:10,529 who are charged with protecting public safety, oppose 2021 02:07:10,529 --> 02:07:12,959 legislation like that. One last question 2022 02:07:12,960 --> 02:07:15,420 for you, Madam Secretary, and I'm sure you're gonna dodge it, 2023 02:07:15,420 --> 02:07:19,590 but I'm going to ask it anyway. Ready? wouldn't wouldn't being 2024 02:07:19,590 --> 02:07:21,480 on the Supreme Court be a great job? 2025 02:07:24,060 --> 02:07:29,220 Well, nice try, but flattered to be to be asked and but I'm 2026 02:07:29,220 --> 02:07:31,830 focused on the job I have. And as you've already described, 2027 02:07:31,830 --> 02:07:32,490 it's a big one. 2028 02:07:32,729 --> 02:07:35,879 Secretary of Homeland Security, Janet Napolitano, a very, very 2029 02:07:35,879 --> 02:07:38,459 busy person by definition. Thank you so much for joining us 2030 02:07:38,459 --> 02:07:41,069 tonight. Appreciate your time. Thank you for having me.