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In a world where the internet is
filled with podcasts of people

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saying, I think this and I think
that there is a sanctuary

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brought to you weekly with no
music, no commercials, no

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talent, and certainly no agenda
from the west side of Guilford

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in the United Kingdom. I'm Adam
curry.

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And up here in northern
California where it appears to

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be hitting 85 degrees Fahrenheit
today. I'm John C. Dvorak. Holy

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moly, it's a nice day here to
actually are a little bit of

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rain, but I left on a beautiful
day. What was that? What was it?

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When did I leave John?

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He left it was windy and kind of
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That was Wednesday. Thursday, I
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warming up on Thursday.
Yesterday, it was about 80. I

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actually in some places it hit
86. And today, it didn't cool

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off last night. And it's hot
already and early in the

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morning. So this is going to be
actually great day trouble. Oh,

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a horrible day. Okay, well, no,
no miserably hot. It's gonna be

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hot. I may have to get in the
convertible drive around

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in the convertible in the
Mustang. In the Corvette?

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Actually, the I do have a
Corvette, but this will

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be the Miata. Really? You have a
Corvette? I didn't know you had

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a Corvette.

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75 needs work.

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That's a stinger, isn't it? Oh,
those are beautiful. I love the

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sting rays. And it's totally
collectible. New York was

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beautiful. I was there for for a
day. You know, Maggie booked me

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on American Thursday. From work
yeah. Now it wasn't it wasn't an

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MD ad. She checked that. But
unlike Maggie, you know, they're

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gonna be rebooking people on a
million different flights now,

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so I sat in a coach seat in the
middle. Yeah, yeah, that was not

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Oh, you know, there was a big
benefit, actually, to sitting in

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a coach seat because there lots
of people with laptops around

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and, you know, I really couldn't
move because once I folded

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myself, and I was just there,
right, and I could not if I want

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to get out, I'd have to ask the
person on either the right or

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the left of me if I could get
out.

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But But by the way, that the
good side of that at least

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American Airlines has some
legroom?

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Yes, absolutely. But not enough
to really manoeuvre my legacy.

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I'm six, four. So as kind of
tough with what I love about the

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767 Is it still has a three two
projector for the for the in

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flight movie. But anyway, so I'm
sitting there, and everyone has

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their laptop open. And I'm
looking, you know, right in

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front of me. And this is a lady
who's writing up a PR proposal

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in PowerPoint. And I'm like, I'm
staring straight ahead. So you

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know, I couldn't help but read.
I got nothing better to do. I do

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that all the time. Yeah, it's it
is kind of entertaining. So

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here's what she was writing up.
She was from a PR firm,

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apparently working on behalf of
Skype. And so it was a whole PR

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plan to go to the media to say
email is becoming the snail mail

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of our age, and that is being
replaced by the use of Skype.

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Which, by the way, I'm not
saying that that's completely

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invalid that I am and VoIP
aren't replacing some pieces of

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email, perhaps. But what what
was apparent is that they had

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contracted Harris Interactive,
which I guess is a surveying

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company. I don't know if you're
familiar with them, John? Oh,

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yeah. They're famous. Okay.
Well, so basically, they paid

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Harris Interactive to
extrapolate information to

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support this idea. It's not it's
not like, Harris did a survey

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and oh, look at this. Look, what
we found out No, Skype literally

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came up with a PR idea, or the
this PR firm, contracted Harris

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Interactive, I could see her,
you know, going through the

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survey and pulling out pieces
and bits and putting that into

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this release. So you can expect
that to be really big news next

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week.

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You know, of course, that that
technique is not is not new by

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any means. No, but

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it's a great technique. It works
all the time, doesn't it?

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Not if you're busted? Well, I'd

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say they're busted right now.

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If you're busted, it doesn't
work at all, it makes you look

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like an idiot. And Microsoft
used to try to pull that crap

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all the time. But but they would
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because it didn't, you know,
they weren't doing it within

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many finesse. They were like
over, you know, over promoting

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their side of the issue with you
know, phoney surveys. And if you

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did any research, all it takes
is just a little research. And

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you'll find this survey with
this famous survey that I guess

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Harris will be rolling out,
you'll find who sponsored it was

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was the client. Right, exactly.
And then they so they're the

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ones who designed the questions,
and they're the ones who

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reinterpreted the data and
they're the ones who came up

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with this and I know exactly
why. I think the more

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interesting question here with
what you've stumbled on to and

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congratulations, by the way,
thank you is why are they doing

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this? Do they need customers? I
mean, this is not a big

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moneymaker necessarily for EA
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surface of it, that the reason
they'd be doing this is because

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they want to dump Skype on
someone. Yeah, they want to prop

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up the value of it before they
don't they want to make it look

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like it's worth more as part of
some bigger trend. It's so

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important.

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Well, there were there were a
couple other couple other pages

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to this presentation. One was

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the house while you were sitting
right next door. No, right

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behind her.

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I was looking through. Yeah. Oh,
perfect angle. So the other one

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was they have a Skype has a deal
with Hearst. And they're going

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to be a Skype will become a
platform for the presidential

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candidates to converse with the
constituents. And Hearst media

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properties, we'll be promoting
that. So look, be on the lookout

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for that. And the third thing
was, oh, yeah, show that show to

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mainstream media, particularly,
television producers, how

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incredibly useful Skype is in
integrating into their

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programming. And as Skype
apparently has a deal with

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Harpo, which is Oprah's
production company. So I don't

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watch Oprah. But if they if
she's not doing it already, I

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presume that people will be
video because this is all about

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the video conferencing not part
there'll be video conferencing

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into the Oprah show.

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Oh god amateur hour,

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you know, I mean, we can't even
we're actually pretty smart, we

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can't even get a reasonable
audio connection that they're

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gonna do video with.

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The funny thing is, is that you
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video, when I was at Tech TV,
they used a they actually gave

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out something like two or three
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little cameras that you could
hook to your computer and they

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did have this as a feature. So
they had various shows and then

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have some idiot calling in on
this cam and they had the guys

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who are running the company
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every time we read a review of
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they talked about the amateurish
pneus of this of their

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connections and they wouldn't
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because some if you just watched
we're watching television and

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you turn on a on one of these
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the studio talking to somebody
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Logitech cams with the Herky
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you couldn't even see him they
were fuzzy or they were

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pixelated you'd go What a bunch
What did a what how this is the

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cheapest production I've ever
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well you know what, I've seen
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so yeah span the audience get
them to to buy webcams and call

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in but then I've seen them
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cameras in and make it look like
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I've seen that happen lots of
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why is the question on my mind
why what what is the point is it

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so you can be hip DAB these
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that's the only reason I agree I
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usually does not have any does
not have any value to the to the

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programming.

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So anyway, that does well when
I've I've uncovered a few things

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in my day you'll look in between
the seats and by the way it did

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again congratulate you for this
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that much that's good.

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But it was a six to six hour
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actually I read along with her
John until her battery ran down

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great rats the battery very very
entertaining.

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So you must have had a good shot
a good angle which is really

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helps a lot I was one time in a
in a seat one of these things

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where you had the time behind
there was a couple of aeroplane

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configurations where there's
there's this three and three on

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either side and on when you get
to the emergency exit all of a

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sudden there's two and then
three behind it so people can

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get out the door and I and your
best seat in a plane light

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distance Southwest has a few of
these is to be in that seat

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where there's actually not a
seat in front of you. It's just

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an empty space right because
that's where the emergency door

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is which is a great seat. So
when I saw I nabbed that seat

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and I'm sitting there and the
guy seat seated in what would

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have been a middle seat but it's
only two seats there pops open

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his laptop and the angle I had
because I didn't have to look

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between anything was right the
guy's presentation unfortunately

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was about to use in insurance
industry guy and it was like

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whatever. But I could read it
but yeah,

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well this is I thought this is
really interesting. So let's see

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how long it takes between this
sighting of the of the email is

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being killed by Skype. Yeah,
until we actually until we

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actually see it.

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Yeah, we will infected and if
anybody's listening to the show,

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they should keep an eye out for
it and give us a date first

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sighting

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that's right first it first of
all encounter or whatever they

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call it. Let's just talk about
the airlines for a second I

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think Didn't you think you sent
me a note? You want to talk

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about something?

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Yeah, this guy's Peter I Nova
sent In a man was saying that he

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had this weird suspicion. And it
shows he said it it rang a bell

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with me because I used to be of
course, you're gonna always

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ridiculed all these little
careers I had

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when you weren't. You're an FAA
inspector. Now, I

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wish when I was a kid I had,
this is last year oh, by the

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way, when I was in both high
school, and college in the

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summertime, I'd always work.

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This was when Truman was our
president. Yeah.

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Sorry, you're gonna get yours
eventually. Granted, yeah,

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that's common quotes coming
fast. So, because you could get

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summer jobs, I mean, that I went
up some of a few years back, I

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was in port towns in Washington.
And there was a bunch of kids

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sitting around and I wrote an op
ed someplace about how these

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kids a bunch of lazy bastards,
they don't do anything during

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the summertime is during the
summer. And it went on and on

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and on. And some one of my
readers, a young, younger reader

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sent me a note saying, Hey, man,
don't be so harsh on these guys.

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You can't get work, there isn't
anything, there's no factory

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around. There's none of these
things that you used to have

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when you were a kid to go work
at. And so I've kind of laid off

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of them after that, because I've
looked around it is true.

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There's nothing to do in the
summertime, you know, maybe do

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volunteer work for Obama,

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that this grid still exists the
newspaper when a bike man by

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delivering grid

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you know, I here's a funny story
about grid. I,

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I don't Don't, don't don't go
into great, yeah, Shaggy Dog

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our way out of this. Okay. I saw
a thing for grit recently. And I

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and it was like a free two
issues. And I want to see what

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it looks like. So I signed up,
you know, and I only got with

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the bills and never got a copy.
Oh, no,

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no. That's right. Yeah. So it
exists still. It's still out

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there. Great.

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Yeah, well, at least at least as
of a couple years ago. Anyway, I

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don't think kids are going door
to door with it. They never did

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when I was

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for retail. I mean, my daughter
works. weekends and summer and

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vacation days in retail. Isn't
that plenty of retail stuff for

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kids to do?

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compared that to a factory job
at full union pay and benefits?

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Yeah, that's true. I mean, I was
walking out of every summer with

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just a tonne of money. You know,
the,

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you know, what's great about my,
my daughter has this job at Jack

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wills, which is kind of like an
Abercrombie and Fitch type

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clothing store really expensive,
you know, like, you know,

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sweaters for 300 pounds, it's
nuts. And what they do is I love

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the system they set up, they
hire all these beautiful kids

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who love this brand. Anyway,
they give them a 90% discount on

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anything they buy in the store.
So and of course they pay them,

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you know, just barely minimum
wage with absolutely no

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benefits. And so what winds up
happening is these kids spend 60

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to 70% of their salary on the
clothing because they can get it

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at a 90% discount. So that
that's like this perpetual

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marketing ecosystem they built
up and all these kids have to do

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is just, yeah, they restock the
shells. But they walk around

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help people say, Oh, this looks
nice. Don't you think that would

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be good look good on you. And
they're basically Uber

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salespeople who are super
incentivized.

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Yeah, but are they as good as
the old timers that used to work

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in those stores? And you know,
when you when you see shows

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like, Are You Being Served?

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Mr. Humphries, are you free? No,
absolutely not. Certainly not as

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colourful as Are You Being
Served?

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No. Anyway, the point is, is
that there's not none of these.

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When I was like, again, I used I
met and worked in the sheetmetal

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shop. So anyway, I, I got the
clue early on that the job you

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wanted to have was Inspector.

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And by the way, John, I've had a
lot of jobs like that, because

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it was still possible when I was
young. So let me just show my

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age. Okay, Inspector.

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One year, I was working as a
receiving clerk at the

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International Harvester, which
was a pretty good gig. And then

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the, but I noticed that that was
my main job there because I was

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working graveyard, which was
kind of the drawback to some of

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the summer jobs, but it was
okay. I was working to get

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jetlag. Anyway, this graveyard
shift and my main job actually

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turned out to be guarding the
entire factory against some big

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boss coming in at night for some
unknown reason, and warning the

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inspectors who are all upstairs
playing poker. And they would

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play poker until like six in the
morning unless a try unless a

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train came in. This was the days
when a train would come in, and

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they still do it. I think in the
bigger factories, big train load

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is parts would come in and then
you'd have to get these guys

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rousted, and they'd come down
and inspections,

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inspect the individual
components or whatever was

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coming in.

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What are they inspected the
shipments to make sure that they

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were legit, and then you know,

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where the governmental
inspectors or inspectors the

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factory employed inspectors

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factory employed factors.
Anyway, so I figured out that

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this is the job you want and so
I knew over the years I got I

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went during the summer I get
various jobs as an inspector

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here and there at full Union Pay
Because I came up I stumbled on

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to an interesting, I wouldn't
call it a scam but a technique.

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Because early on when you were a
kid, you went to summer, get a

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summer job, they give you a
summer job, you go to Ford, and

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you'd get a summer job for
these, you know, for college

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because yeah, you got paid well,
but there was a crap job you had

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to you know, was just horrible.
Some, you know, picking up some

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spare bolts, you know, and
putting them in a bin or

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something. Just that's it all
you did all day. Even assembly

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line jobs weren't that much fun.
So I went took this, just as a

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lark one year, I wanted to get
this one specific job. And they

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asked me about my, I think I was
a sophomore at Cal or something.

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And they said, so why are you
taking this job? So Well, I'm

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just college is too hard for me.
I'm, I'm quitting. So I told

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them, I'm quitting school, and
I'm going to work for them. So I

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got this really nice inspectors
job. And then the thing I

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stumbled onto that which was the
was the note of genius, was at

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the end of the summer, and I
actually probably stretch it a

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little further, because so much
good money. I told her I had to

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go back to Europe really had to
get back to school full time. So

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I told him that, you know, I've
worked here for these many

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months. And it was a great
experience for me, I've learned

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a lot. But you know, I've
decided to go back to school.

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Oops. And they fell all over
themselves with congratulations.

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You are the hope for the
American dream, son, go back to

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school, get your education
become president.

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So instead of getting mad at me
for just working the summer, you

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know, it was, Oh, that's great.
It's great. You're going back to

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school? Do you need anything
from us, let us know. So you

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know, 1000 bucks. So anyway, so
but there was an era when I was

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an inspector at trail mobiel
where I had been in the

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spectrum, you just were working
on cargo containers when they

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were still made in this country.
And, and, and this is where the

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story about the FAA comes in. So
I'm, there's one guy that's on

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one of the lines that I'm
inspecting, who I just love

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talking to because the guy was
essentially a stand up comic.

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And he was doing his job all the
time. But he would be talking to

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me a lot and telling me jokes.
In fact, there's still jokes

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that he's still a couple of
years ago, but he and he would

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be had, he had little magic
tricks and the guy was

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hilarious. And so one day, the
foreman of that line comes over

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and choose me out. I mean, he's
not my boss, because I'm working

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I'm an inspector, their
independence, but choosing me

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out for wasting this guy's time
and being a jerk for being

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there. And then he just went on
and on and on and on just given

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me crap for this thing. So I
pulled out the way it was done,

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we'd have these little red
pieces of tape and then you'd

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have these little little pieces
of slips that you'd write on for

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errors. I started papering his
products because if you've never

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worked in a factory and if you
don't know how things actually

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work which is one of the I think
a drawback to the American

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public today they don't get it
nothing meets spec right very

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few things ever manufactured
actually meet spec they're all

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within you know range tolerance
levels Yeah. And it's sometimes

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you know, it's way off spec but
it's still acceptable at some

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point and inspectors have to
have enough sense to let certain

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things go you know, it's like a
cop when he pulled somebody over

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is it like making a decision
where you're gonna write up a

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ticket or not and you know, if
you want to turn up the you

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know, if you want to go buy the
book, you can plaster anything

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with with rejection stickers,
right so I covered disguise

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aligned because there was a lot
of little things little nicks in

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a piece of paint that's not 1.2
inches away from the spot you

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know, it's supposed to be where
it's supposed to be and

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so what you're saying is that if
you actually played by the book

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then not a single product would
come out of that factory.

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Exactly, yeah. It may be one you
know that got lucky but it would

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you could probably still find
something wrong with it. So I

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plaster this stuff just just so
my any any Yes. It will all

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these little problems and some
of them are almost impossible to

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fix. The guy comes back to me
begging, apologising, I'm sorry,

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I was there was a bad day for me
beg, literally begging for

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mercy. Because I could have kept
this up forever.

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Okay, I get it.

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Now that guy, the guy who wrote
in the email mentions that the

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FAA was taken to the called on
the carpet by Congress just

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before they started doing what
they're doing, which is exactly

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the same thing. You want us to
follow the rules this you know

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exactly to the to the letter,
okay, we're gonna start shutting

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down the entire system until you
tell us to stop and that's what

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they're doing. It's just a bunch
of inspectors doing what they

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do, hey, if you want to go by
the book we can shut down. And

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let's start with American
Airlines AMR one of the biggest

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corporations in the country.
Hey, by the way, and if you

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don't knuckle under, after we
screw with them, we're moving to

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United. And then we're gonna,
you know, it's gonna be one

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airline after another, they can
bring the whole thing to a

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standstill if the Congress,
idiots in Congress don't figure

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out what's going on.

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So you can imagine, with my
aviation background, I have an

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opinion on this. Yeah, I'm sure.
So first of all, I think you're

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absolutely right about the
inspectors. I mean, that's like

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TPS report time, you know, we
can we can we can bring your

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your company or your country to
a grinding halt. Absolutely. But

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it's a little different in this
case, because FAA, the FAA does

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not actually go out and inspect
every single piece of

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maintenance that is done on any
aircraft that's registered under

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unregister. The way and and this
is, so this is two issues. One,

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it's about the FAA and the
government and then saying

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screw, you will bring everything
to a grinding halt. And the

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other part is about maintenance
in aviation in general. So the

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way maintenance works, and you
know, maintenance is everything,

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it's like 99% of all accidents
is maintenance, you know, just

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because shitty maintenance,
makes the aeroplane break, or

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things malfunction, you can get
into bad situations. But every

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so these planes are basically,
they're not composite, they're

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all sheet metal, and rivets,
right. So it's the same type of

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stuff that you've been dealing
with. And they don't all have to

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fit within a millimetre and you
know, because they basically, if

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your wing is the right design,
and your engines stay on, then

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you know, the rest will be
pretty much okay. But every

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piece of the plane, every every
element, every every bolt, every

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wire, even the airframe,
everything has a time to live.

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And it hasn't, it has an
expiration date, which is set up

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by the manufacturer who
obviously, you know, is liable

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for number of reasons, if they
if they're lying about the life

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expectancy of all these
different parts and pieces. And

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even if these pieces aren't worn
or aren't showing wear and tear,

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you have regular intervals of
maintenance inspections that are

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done by the maintenance company.
And these peat, these parts have

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to be replaced, or certain
checks have to be done as an

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example. Every two years, every
year, I have an annual

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inspection on on my aircraft
every two years, all of the

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avionics have to be removed and
tested, even if they're working

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fine, they have to go out, you
know, it's it. And of course,

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it's an extra expense, the
propeller has an X number of

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hours, and you have to send that
away, and even my plane, you

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know, it'll cost me like $8,000
to have the prop. maintained.

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And that's once maybe it depends
on how much you fly, but it's

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all based on hours, etc. So the
person doing the maintenance has

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to sign off. On the end, you
have to be new, you have to be

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an FAA approved maintenance
company or maintenance engineer,

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you have to sign off and you
signing off says I did this

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work, I performed it, I did the
check. And you are liable as an

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engineer if you're lying about
that. So what happened here is

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the F is an i we had that we
have to go back and find out how

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the story broke. But somehow
someone figured out that the FAA

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knew that there was all kinds of
shit going on with the

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maintenance records. So pieces
were missing, and stuff that was

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submitted but not signed off on.
And what it came down to is

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basically wire ties, John, you
know, wire ties, for these big

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copper bundles that go through
these through the MDF in these

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mid 80s, which is what they
chose to to inspect. It's not

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that the FAA has to inspect
every single one of those but

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the maintenance companies have
to do it at regular intervals,

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and then, you know, sign off and
send it in, this was not

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happening. And so as a pilot,
you know, I'd be really angry, I

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would quit, I would rather go
work at Jack wills than then fly

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an aircraft where any piece of
maintenance was not done only to

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save costs because that's what
it's about. And it's not a big

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deal. These wire ties it really
isn't. Although, because of this

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issue, I think there's been 20
or 25 instances on mdadm where

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the nose gear would not retract
and you do not want that as a

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pilot you don't want anything
going wrong with your with your

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undercarriage. So it's actually
quite exemplary that the FAA and

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this is this really adds proof
to your to the point you're

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making, that the FAA would say
we're doing the spot check on

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every single one of these
aircraft. That's a really big

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deal because they don't do that
typically. But now they've taken

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you know they've taken their
authority Hurry and made Uber

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authority and said look we don't
just need to have all your

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records in and everything to be
signed off on we're doing spot

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checks on everybody. So it's
kind of a double whammy the air

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the airlines need to be fucking
taken out back and shot because

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they've been skimping on
maintenance which is very very

436
00:25:17,610 --> 00:25:19,620
serious offence any

437
00:25:19,919 --> 00:25:22,529
I'm an I'm an agreement on that
because I know a lot of the

438
00:25:22,529 --> 00:25:26,429
maintenance is now almost not
quite but borderline out sourced

439
00:25:26,909 --> 00:25:29,219
shops in Mexico for example.

440
00:25:29,340 --> 00:25:33,510
Oh, and let me tell you, I have
my I will not get an aircraft

441
00:25:33,540 --> 00:25:37,650
any aircraft that I can help it
obviously. But certainly in a

442
00:25:37,650 --> 00:25:39,570
private aircraft if I don't know
who's been doing the

443
00:25:39,570 --> 00:25:42,480
maintenance, because you know,
you get all these particularly,

444
00:25:42,990 --> 00:25:45,930
they talk about more than one
pair of hands. So if you have

445
00:25:45,930 --> 00:25:50,190
more than one pair of hands
working on on your aircraft, it

446
00:25:50,190 --> 00:25:52,740
could very easily be that one
guy thought he had tightened the

447
00:25:52,740 --> 00:25:56,010
bolt and the other guy didn't
and you know, it's a confusion

448
00:25:56,430 --> 00:25:59,340
and then it gets signed off on
and you think you're good to go

449
00:25:59,340 --> 00:26:02,640
and it's a really it's a life
threatening situation. And I

450
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:08,190
think all airlines need to be
severely penalised for any type

451
00:26:08,190 --> 00:26:16,140
of of lack of maintenance so so
they're kind of the the golden

452
00:26:16,140 --> 00:26:18,690
boys and girls and all of this.
I think they're getting their

453
00:26:18,690 --> 00:26:21,570
game. Really easy. Really easy.
Well,

454
00:26:21,749 --> 00:26:24,149
there's something screwy about
the whole thing the way I see

455
00:26:24,149 --> 00:26:24,599
it, but

456
00:26:24,629 --> 00:26:26,789
but I think you're right. I
think you're absolutely right.

457
00:26:26,789 --> 00:26:30,449
They're gonna do it to the you
know, they're gonna figure out

458
00:26:30,449 --> 00:26:32,759
another issue. They'll they'll
bring down another airline and

459
00:26:32,759 --> 00:26:35,549
maybe they'll just keep going at
American now who knows, but it's

460
00:26:35,609 --> 00:26:40,439
a it's screwed up my my flying
time in the past couple days.

461
00:26:41,010 --> 00:26:42,930
Yeah, but it gave you a scoop.

462
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:47,190
Yeah, that's true. Because if I
had not been unable to upgrade

463
00:26:47,190 --> 00:26:49,590
had I not been stuck in coach in
that middle seat. I wouldn't

464
00:26:49,590 --> 00:26:51,600
have known that. Email is dead.

465
00:26:53,609 --> 00:26:56,489
It's actually sometimes you have
to you know, when you have

466
00:26:56,489 --> 00:26:59,519
lemons, you make lemonade baby.

467
00:27:01,980 --> 00:27:05,280
coming into the country, one
year one an update. Yeah. You

468
00:27:05,279 --> 00:27:08,609
came into the country for a
couple of days. Yep. And you hit

469
00:27:08,609 --> 00:27:12,389
you tell me you didn't wouldn't
want to tell me while you were

470
00:27:12,389 --> 00:27:15,359
here, because we wanted to do it
on the show. What was your

471
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:16,319
latest experience?

472
00:27:16,349 --> 00:27:20,249
Okay, so we had decided that I
would ask for the TL for the

473
00:27:20,249 --> 00:27:23,429
team leader, which I had learned
was a way to get into the depth

474
00:27:23,429 --> 00:27:26,789
of the database quicker in order
for it because only the team

475
00:27:26,789 --> 00:27:29,519
leader has access to all of the
notes that are plugged in put

476
00:27:29,519 --> 00:27:34,379
next to my record, saying the
guys okay, so I No, I was not

477
00:27:34,379 --> 00:27:36,779
going to do it at the first
initial customs booth. I was

478
00:27:36,779 --> 00:27:39,569
going to do it when you are
ready to leave the airport. Now

479
00:27:39,569 --> 00:27:43,499
I walk up to the I got off the
plane real quick. I walk up to

480
00:27:43,499 --> 00:27:48,239
the to the customs. Boredom
border customs was a border

481
00:27:48,239 --> 00:27:52,529
patrol agent in the glider kit
in the glass case. And he's real

482
00:27:52,529 --> 00:27:56,069
Swift. You know, he takes my He
takes my landing card, he puts

483
00:27:56,069 --> 00:27:58,829
the the one on it with a circle,
which they all do if they'd like

484
00:27:58,829 --> 00:28:03,059
no one guy we can pass. He says
bringing any fruits and

485
00:28:03,059 --> 00:28:06,179
vegetables in the country. I
said no. Tears. Okay. And then,

486
00:28:06,179 --> 00:28:08,399
you know, he just swipes my
passport. And then he gets that

487
00:28:08,399 --> 00:28:12,329
look right. The look that I'm
now all too familiar with. And

488
00:28:12,329 --> 00:28:16,439
then I and then I, I don't know,
I broke my own rule. I said,

489
00:28:16,769 --> 00:28:20,669
Yeah, I know. You're seeing all
kinds of stuff there. And I've

490
00:28:20,669 --> 00:28:27,269
been advised to ask for a TL a
team leader. He said, Sure. So

491
00:28:27,269 --> 00:28:30,509
he didn't stamp my card I had to
go to and I didn't know they had

492
00:28:30,509 --> 00:28:35,429
this. They have a room. It's at
SFO for secondary screening. And

493
00:28:35,459 --> 00:28:38,759
it's a little back office. So
I've never been in here before.

494
00:28:39,599 --> 00:28:42,599
I don't know if it's new or not.
It was kind of hard to tell. But

495
00:28:42,599 --> 00:28:44,939
it's it's kind of off to the
side, you know, and there's all

496
00:28:44,939 --> 00:28:50,729
kinds of ethnic looking folks
who are being semi detained in

497
00:28:50,729 --> 00:28:54,389
there. And sort of hand off my
passport and card and I and I go

498
00:28:54,389 --> 00:28:57,029
through the wrap, you know, it's
like, Well, this has happened

499
00:28:57,299 --> 00:29:00,659
about 10 times and it happens
every single time. And, you

500
00:29:00,659 --> 00:29:02,909
know, the team leader should be
able to get into the database.

501
00:29:02,909 --> 00:29:05,729
You said Okay, Mr. Curry, he was
really nice. By the way, no one

502
00:29:05,729 --> 00:29:10,259
was mean. Have a seat, Mr.
Curry. And it took probably

503
00:29:10,259 --> 00:29:13,259
about 25 minutes and he said,
Okay, you're good to go. And

504
00:29:13,259 --> 00:29:17,219
then you know, he hands me my
passport and my and my landing

505
00:29:17,219 --> 00:29:20,159
card. And I know that I have to
go through to the next to get

506
00:29:20,159 --> 00:29:22,379
out of the airport. I have to
show all that stuff again. And

507
00:29:22,949 --> 00:29:26,789
John, there's like, there's an M
on it. There's an eye on it.

508
00:29:26,789 --> 00:29:29,999
There's a one on it. There's an
L on it. There's like a B on

509
00:29:29,999 --> 00:29:34,019
there's like war and peace on
earth. I'm telling us so I get

510
00:29:34,019 --> 00:29:37,319
my bag and wheel it out. And the
guy sees me come and he sees

511
00:29:37,319 --> 00:29:40,199
this ticket, which is like
filled with a yellow marker and

512
00:29:40,199 --> 00:29:44,549
he hands me the little blue
clear plastic envelope, which is

513
00:29:44,549 --> 00:29:48,299
the protocol. And I walk up and
I see the team leader who has

514
00:29:48,299 --> 00:29:53,189
dealt with me before he's like,
Adam, how you doing? Yeah, he

515
00:29:53,189 --> 00:29:56,879
says, Man, this should not be
happening to you. This should

516
00:29:56,879 --> 00:29:59,849
not be happening. Come on over
here. And so he's there with so

517
00:29:59,849 --> 00:30:04,019
this is Agent Lund, I think his
name is. And Agent Phillips,

518
00:30:04,379 --> 00:30:07,079
lovely young lady, she's already
tapping away in the database.

519
00:30:07,439 --> 00:30:11,669
And, and she's so. And what I
realised pretty quickly is that

520
00:30:11,669 --> 00:30:13,739
she doesn't know, I've never
seen her before. She doesn't

521
00:30:13,739 --> 00:30:17,219
know about my issues. She knows
me from MTV. So now I'm like,

522
00:30:17,249 --> 00:30:20,519
this is going to be fun. And
we're chatting away, and we're

523
00:30:20,519 --> 00:30:24,239
having, you know, lots of talks
and like, so you know, we're

524
00:30:24,239 --> 00:30:27,269
really, really, really sorry
about this, you know, and

525
00:30:27,299 --> 00:30:29,489
they're going back and forth,
and they're discussing put the

526
00:30:29,489 --> 00:30:32,369
fling out yet, check that box,
he said, we should be able to

527
00:30:32,369 --> 00:30:34,529
get you out. But we just can't
seem to get you out of this

528
00:30:34,529 --> 00:30:37,229
database. And so I started
saying, Well, tell me about this

529
00:30:37,229 --> 00:30:40,379
database, you know, how is it?
Where's all the information

530
00:30:40,379 --> 00:30:42,659
coming from? And I just really
want confirmation, which is,

531
00:30:42,659 --> 00:30:45,989
well, it's really, it sits on
top of all this other

532
00:30:45,989 --> 00:30:49,139
information from Department of
Motor Vehicles. And the IRS was

533
00:30:49,139 --> 00:30:54,869
telling me about this. I think
illegal practice. He says, and

534
00:30:54,869 --> 00:31:00,209
it's really hard to to, it's
really hard to get names out, he

535
00:31:00,209 --> 00:31:02,369
says, But you know, it's not a
no fly list. It's a different

536
00:31:02,369 --> 00:31:05,609
type of list. I said, Yeah, I'm
quite aware. I says, there's now

537
00:31:05,609 --> 00:31:08,429
about a million people who
shouldn't be in this database

538
00:31:08,429 --> 00:31:11,999
and are being stopped. And we're
having a real hard time getting

539
00:31:11,999 --> 00:31:15,299
people off the list. And he will
be giving you the documentation

540
00:31:15,299 --> 00:31:17,279
about submitting your
information for removal and

541
00:31:17,279 --> 00:31:19,589
said, what one of those Freedom
of Information Act things he's

542
00:31:19,589 --> 00:31:25,769
no, no. And he has a booklet
kind of like, a rectangle memo

543
00:31:25,769 --> 00:31:29,339
pad, you know, where you can rip
off sheets, and it says kind of

544
00:31:29,339 --> 00:31:34,409
near one end is Gumede. Yeah,
and it's an instruction in

545
00:31:34,439 --> 00:31:40,199
English and in Spanish. About
how to, and I've heard of this

546
00:31:40,229 --> 00:31:43,649
before, but I guess now it's, I
thought it was only for no fly

547
00:31:43,649 --> 00:31:46,619
list. But now it's also for this
type of secondary screening to

548
00:31:46,619 --> 00:31:51,329
go to the trip system on the
Department of Homeland Security

549
00:31:51,599 --> 00:32:00,299
website. So it's www dot d h
s.or.gov/trip. Tr IP. And it is

550
00:32:00,299 --> 00:32:03,809
the homeowner should look at
what that stands for. It's like

551
00:32:03,809 --> 00:32:11,819
the travel restriction. Hold on.
I find that when I say

552
00:32:11,849 --> 00:32:17,579
dhs.gov/trip It's kind of a kind
of scary is what it is here.

553
00:32:17,849 --> 00:32:23,279
traveller redress inquiry
programme. Great. someone's

554
00:32:23,279 --> 00:32:29,609
like, Hey, cool. The acronym is
trip. This is really awesome. So

555
00:32:29,609 --> 00:32:32,429
you should look at that webpage.
And they know I have to submit

556
00:32:32,429 --> 00:32:35,579
all kinds of information and
then they'll contact me for more

557
00:32:35,579 --> 00:32:38,609
information and oh, don't worry,
here's our privacy policy.

558
00:32:40,049 --> 00:32:42,509
Yeah, right. So it's not going
to work anyway.

559
00:32:42,539 --> 00:32:44,219
Do you think I should try it?
Should I

560
00:32:45,329 --> 00:32:48,239
yeah, you will you have to for
the purposes of this show. Yeah.

561
00:32:48,239 --> 00:32:51,119
But the fact of the matter is,
your name is Adam curry. And the

562
00:32:51,119 --> 00:32:54,179
problem is there's another Adam
curry out there you're not in

563
00:32:54,179 --> 00:32:58,259
that you're not even in the
database. Right, I know

564
00:32:58,260 --> 00:33:02,130
I know I am. I am now in the
database. I'm definitely the

565
00:33:02,130 --> 00:33:02,610
database

566
00:33:02,610 --> 00:33:06,090
so it's on you to proving that
you're not the other Adam curry.

567
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,360
Yeah, you can go through this
trip process and I would

568
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,970
encourage you to do it, but it's
not going to get you off this

569
00:33:11,970 --> 00:33:14,430
list. But if you're not on the
list, but

570
00:33:14,429 --> 00:33:18,119
for my for here's my question
for all this money that's going

571
00:33:18,119 --> 00:33:20,969
to the Department of Homeland
Security. I think as a citizen I

572
00:33:20,969 --> 00:33:24,239
have the right for them to go
track this guy down. He sounds

573
00:33:24,239 --> 00:33:26,909
pretty scary. They clearly they
want him

574
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:31,620
maybe you should sue the guy
because it's you're the one

575
00:33:31,620 --> 00:33:34,350
that's suffering and you're the
one that has to be detained for

576
00:33:34,350 --> 00:33:37,170
half an hour at a crack over and
over you know what my

577
00:33:37,170 --> 00:33:40,440
time is worth, John, I mean half
hour of my time that's just

578
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:41,640
millions of dollars.

579
00:33:43,529 --> 00:33:46,859
You should suit find the guy and
sue him and him to make the

580
00:33:46,859 --> 00:33:50,039
government part of the lawsuit,
get a lawyer that can figure

581
00:33:50,039 --> 00:33:52,799
something out some crazy lawsuit
out here that sounds like one to

582
00:33:52,799 --> 00:33:56,699
me, and and take some action,
then get him off the list by

583
00:33:56,699 --> 00:34:01,169
getting him whatever have him
resolved. You know, that sounds

584
00:34:01,169 --> 00:34:03,449
get more whatever they do to

585
00:34:03,450 --> 00:34:07,530
him. It sounds like that's gonna
cost me money. A lot of effort.

586
00:34:07,530 --> 00:34:10,530
And I don't really think I mean,
I'm not a very litigious guy,

587
00:34:10,590 --> 00:34:14,430
or the show, think of the show.
This show the show.

588
00:34:14,460 --> 00:34:18,600
Here's one for the show. So I
left from JFK last night on

589
00:34:18,690 --> 00:34:24,300
Virgin, and at JFK. You can
actually check your bags in at

590
00:34:24,300 --> 00:34:28,620
the check in desk gift and take
your bag to the TSA screening

591
00:34:28,620 --> 00:34:32,640
machine, which is a little bit
further up. So I'm rolling my

592
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,640
bag down and I knew I had a huge
delay. So I'm taking my time and

593
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:39,780
I'm feeling pretty good. And so
I roll my bag over and there's

594
00:34:39,780 --> 00:34:45,930
this TSA agent. She's about six
to she's got She's extremely

595
00:34:45,930 --> 00:34:53,610
MILFy I think she's pushing 30
late 30s 40 and John stunning, a

596
00:34:53,610 --> 00:35:01,650
stunningly sexy, tall woman in
uniform and And so, you know,

597
00:35:01,650 --> 00:35:03,540
she looks at me and I look at
her and we're, you know, we're

598
00:35:03,570 --> 00:35:06,330
eye to eye, right? And you have
to understand when you're tall

599
00:35:06,330 --> 00:35:09,870
like I am, you just don't get
that a lot and like, Oh, hi. And

600
00:35:09,900 --> 00:35:14,640
she's like, oh, hi and hand off
my bag. And I said, Don't you

601
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:18,780
just miss hugging people your
height? She says, she says, Oh,

602
00:35:18,780 --> 00:35:21,360
it's been such a long time. I
said, Come here, baby. Give me

603
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,280
one. So I hugged her and we're
like, we're doing this big

604
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:31,770
embrace. And also when she
realises she's like, fired. But

605
00:35:31,770 --> 00:35:37,830
it was a nice hug. It was good.
You have to understand, yeah,

606
00:35:37,860 --> 00:35:40,980
the only time that I had the
best hug I ever I think I told

607
00:35:40,980 --> 00:35:43,530
you that the best hug I ever had
was the Shaquille O'Neal.

608
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:46,020
No, really? Yeah,

609
00:35:46,049 --> 00:35:49,289
I was interviewing big dude.
Yeah, he's seven foot, whatever.

610
00:35:49,289 --> 00:35:51,959
And, and I was interviewing him
for something. And I said to

611
00:35:51,959 --> 00:35:53,969
Shaq, can I just ask you one
last question? And he said,

612
00:35:53,969 --> 00:35:56,879
Yeah, I said, No. You know, I
know you can feel my pain here.

613
00:35:56,879 --> 00:35:59,039
Would you mind if I just hugged
you? It would be so nice to be

614
00:35:59,039 --> 00:36:02,129
hugged by someone bigger than
me. And he says Absolutely.

615
00:36:03,029 --> 00:36:08,279
Just. Yeah, it's nice. Man. Hugs
are good. You should hug someone

616
00:36:08,279 --> 00:36:09,059
this week. John.

617
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,110
Hug enough. I'm in California,
you have to hug all the time.

618
00:36:13,140 --> 00:36:18,210
That's true. I go, here's
something to tie. Here's

619
00:36:18,210 --> 00:36:21,090
something that ties into what
we're talking about, about

620
00:36:21,090 --> 00:36:26,460
accuracy of parts. Remember, we
had the conversation about the

621
00:36:26,460 --> 00:36:29,130
crystals. Right?

622
00:36:29,969 --> 00:36:32,789
Hey, John and Adam, this is
Scott from Virginia I was

623
00:36:32,789 --> 00:36:35,609
listening to last Friday has no
agenda where you were talking

624
00:36:35,609 --> 00:36:39,269
about the inaccuracy of system
clocks. And John was saying how

625
00:36:39,269 --> 00:36:42,299
he couldn't believe that
crystals was all our technology.

626
00:36:42,299 --> 00:36:45,209
They couldn't keep more accurate
time. While I'm a computer

627
00:36:45,209 --> 00:36:48,719
engineer, so maybe I can give
you an idea of why these

628
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:49,919
crystals are so inaccurate.

629
00:36:49,949 --> 00:36:52,379
Can you hear this? Because it's
kind of scratchy this audio?

630
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:53,520
Yeah, no, I can hear it. Okay.

631
00:36:54,450 --> 00:36:57,090
As with any component that you
manufacture resistors

632
00:36:57,090 --> 00:36:59,910
capacitors, there are certain
tolerances associated with both

633
00:36:59,910 --> 00:37:02,730
the manufacturing process and
with other environmental

634
00:37:02,730 --> 00:37:06,450
variables like temperature. So
if you buy a crystal rated for

635
00:37:06,450 --> 00:37:09,690
one megahertz, that's one
megahertz, maybe plus or minus

636
00:37:09,690 --> 00:37:12,420
50 hertz, that's a pretty
standard number, you can get

637
00:37:12,420 --> 00:37:15,870
lower tolerances than that, or
tighter tolerances, and then

638
00:37:15,900 --> 00:37:20,460
your only effect is on my end
cost of the device. Now,

639
00:37:20,460 --> 00:37:23,490
whenever you put a crystal into
a system, you hang off things

640
00:37:23,490 --> 00:37:28,200
like capacitors, resistors. And
these things can affect the

641
00:37:28,230 --> 00:37:31,380
overall accuracy of your timing
along with the temperature of

642
00:37:31,380 --> 00:37:35,040
the environment. So you can
easily see why you would need to

643
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,670
rethink the clock every so often
with a at the time server like

644
00:37:38,670 --> 00:37:41,850
the atomic clock, or the
National Institute of Science

645
00:37:41,850 --> 00:37:44,880
and Technology here in the
United States. So I hope to shed

646
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,570
some light on that for you on
the show and hope to hear this

647
00:37:48,570 --> 00:37:49,110
on the air.

648
00:37:49,830 --> 00:37:54,180
So one of my summer jobs was
selling components, like

649
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:59,550
electronic components in, in a
shop that literally sold

650
00:37:59,550 --> 00:38:03,150
capacitors, resistors, etc. And
I was listening to that comment,

651
00:38:03,150 --> 00:38:06,270
I realised memory could I think
you can still buy resistors

652
00:38:06,270 --> 00:38:09,480
probably only over the internet
these days. And the resistor

653
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,790
would have a colour code and
would tell you how many or what

654
00:38:11,790 --> 00:38:17,130
the own value was of, of that
resistor and it also had either

655
00:38:17,130 --> 00:38:21,030
a, a no banned a silver band or
a gold band, which would also

656
00:38:21,030 --> 00:38:26,610
tell you the quality of the
resistor, and the DV deviation

657
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:30,330
percentage, which I think was
like 5% for gold and 10% for

658
00:38:30,330 --> 00:38:31,290
silver or something.

659
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,930
I don't remember but I do
remember that that that was

660
00:38:33,930 --> 00:38:36,480
there was this cool little code?
And then there was something

661
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,220
beyond that called mil spec.

662
00:38:38,549 --> 00:38:41,279
Well, oh, I don't know about
that. What's mil spec? Oh, mil

663
00:38:41,279 --> 00:38:43,619
spec is an old military spec
specification.

664
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,430
Yeah, it was always the tightest
supposedly

665
00:38:47,489 --> 00:38:52,679
an orange book mil spec so so
there's your answer. It's

666
00:38:52,679 --> 00:38:53,519
cheaper cheaper

667
00:38:53,790 --> 00:38:56,490
is that it's actually the
there's no question about it.

668
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,880
That's exactly what the problem
is. But did was remind none that

669
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:01,980
gives me two anecdotes nice to
top

670
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,410
okay that now we know how the
show works.

671
00:39:06,390 --> 00:39:12,900
Triggers old landline, I was a
kid. So I got I have this couple

672
00:39:12,900 --> 00:39:16,170
of Kodak cameras ones A 603 is a
dual lens camera that has this

673
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,890
unbelievable mic and you can go
to divorce uncensored, look up

674
00:39:19,890 --> 00:39:23,460
the Dvorak uncensored videos on
YouTube and you'll find one on

675
00:39:23,460 --> 00:39:27,600
there that says and the title of
it is producer questions quality

676
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,720
of microphone I don't like that
is where I had Annalisa Savage

677
00:39:30,720 --> 00:39:33,840
in the cranky geek set and I was
shooting her with this little

678
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:39,660
camera, which has what sounds
like a studio mic in it. And

679
00:39:39,690 --> 00:39:42,510
there's actually I have a 700
series camera that has a similar

680
00:39:42,510 --> 00:39:44,880
mic but not quite as good as
this one. If I want to go out

681
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,820
and shoot somebody and I want to
get the sound perfect. I'll

682
00:39:47,820 --> 00:39:51,210
bring this black six megapixel
cameras make a movie with it.

683
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,060
Anyway, so you can listen to
this for yourself. And here you

684
00:39:54,060 --> 00:39:57,330
go. Oh my god. It's
unbelievable. So I figured that

685
00:39:57,330 --> 00:39:59,670
they have the cameras kind of
where it has all kinds of little

686
00:39:59,670 --> 00:40:02,520
etching Using things I figured
they had some special trick that

687
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,850
they'd done to make the sound so
good. And so I called Kodak up

688
00:40:05,850 --> 00:40:09,540
to ask him about this
microphone. And the company was

689
00:40:09,780 --> 00:40:15,750
literally baffled by my by my
queries as a boy. And now

690
00:40:15,750 --> 00:40:18,120
excited. So I did some more
research and an audio engineer

691
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,460
friend of mine told me that
essentially what's going on with

692
00:40:20,460 --> 00:40:22,830
these digital little cameras,
these pocket cameras, these

693
00:40:22,830 --> 00:40:27,480
cheap cameras, is that these
mics are like a buck 50

694
00:40:27,690 --> 00:40:32,160
uncalibrated Mikey says it would
probably cost $100 At $100 to

695
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,710
the cost of the camera to
calibrate these mics. So they

696
00:40:34,710 --> 00:40:37,110
would really be sounding good
because there are good mics out

697
00:40:37,110 --> 00:40:41,520
there. But the Quit he what he
told me was essentially I got

698
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:47,370
lucky. And so I'm that cameras
never gonna leave my site. And

699
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,010
because it's like, it's
astonishing what the sound

700
00:40:50,010 --> 00:40:50,580
sounds like.

701
00:40:50,610 --> 00:40:54,000
I will add, I will add one thing
to that. Did you record her in

702
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:55,440
the cranking geek studio?

703
00:40:57,270 --> 00:40:59,640
Yes, I've done it. I will swear
to the cranky geek studio is

704
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:05,850
nice and sound. It was a studio.
Um, so I'm trying I'm showing

705
00:41:05,850 --> 00:41:08,400
that the mic sounds like a
studio mic in a studio. I don't

706
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:09,810
think it was completely out of
order.

707
00:41:10,050 --> 00:41:12,120
But why don't you use that mic
for this show, man because you

708
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:12,750
sound like crap.

709
00:41:14,460 --> 00:41:18,240
I can't get a compressor on it.
So now that which brings me to

710
00:41:18,240 --> 00:41:21,750
the other story. And there's
another example when I was

711
00:41:21,750 --> 00:41:24,330
talking about how these
inspectors you know, you know,

712
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:28,830
how there's no such thing as
anything coming to spec.

713
00:41:28,860 --> 00:41:30,930
Everything is a little
fluctuates just a little bit,

714
00:41:30,930 --> 00:41:34,260
which is part of I guess, is our
theme today. So I'm working at

715
00:41:34,260 --> 00:41:39,720
Union oil during the era. I was
a chemist at during the era was

716
00:41:39,720 --> 00:41:42,390
Better Living Through Chemistry,
John, I'm a believer. And

717
00:41:44,010 --> 00:41:48,780
so anyway, they had they, there
was a period in American

718
00:41:48,810 --> 00:41:52,830
gasoline history where we'd had
where they've decided that lead

719
00:41:52,860 --> 00:41:55,980
had to get out of the gasoline,
because it turned out that you

720
00:41:55,980 --> 00:42:00,300
know, to make a gallon of
ethanol, which was the high

721
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,750
octane gasoline, typically
running almost close to 100

722
00:42:03,750 --> 00:42:09,390
octane. They had to put about
four grammes of Tetra ethyl led

723
00:42:09,540 --> 00:42:14,340
into the gasoline so that
wouldn't have knock. And three

724
00:42:14,340 --> 00:42:19,530
grammes of lead came out the
pipe as elemental lead. So most

725
00:42:19,530 --> 00:42:22,410
of the road anyway, anyone who
lives near a road or anything

726
00:42:22,410 --> 00:42:27,360
was, I mean, the country was
being basically poisoned by

727
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:31,770
lead, elemental lead that would
form salts and it would it

728
00:42:31,770 --> 00:42:34,140
reacted with the environment
when were shipped before getting

729
00:42:34,140 --> 00:42:36,390
to the food supply and
everything else. But also

730
00:42:36,390 --> 00:42:38,520
prep for your engine didn't make
your engine run well.

731
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:45,600
Well, what it did is it
lubricated the rings. And as a

732
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:49,260
side the real reason for it was
for the octane to get a smoother

733
00:42:49,290 --> 00:42:51,720
a better performing gasoline
because octane, higher octane

734
00:42:51,720 --> 00:42:55,170
means a gas that explodes with a
more controlled explosion. And

735
00:42:55,170 --> 00:42:59,220
the rings though, but as an as a
side effect, the the lead in

736
00:42:59,250 --> 00:43:04,980
because it would melt as it as
it blew off. He would lubricate

737
00:43:04,980 --> 00:43:07,890
the rings, so the car wouldn't,
you know, you wouldn't wear out.

738
00:43:08,490 --> 00:43:11,460
So they determined that union
oil that day that it all you

739
00:43:11,460 --> 00:43:16,140
really needed was point was a
half a gramme of lead, as

740
00:43:16,140 --> 00:43:20,130
opposed to three or four grammes
to keep the rings lubricated,

741
00:43:20,670 --> 00:43:26,490
until they can change the way
engines were designed. And so

742
00:43:26,490 --> 00:43:29,190
there was a spec that was put
out because the oil industry

743
00:43:29,190 --> 00:43:31,620
didn't want to have to deal with
all these people moaning or

744
00:43:31,620 --> 00:43:33,810
they, you know, the public
moaning about their cars falling

745
00:43:33,810 --> 00:43:36,270
apart, because there's gonna
widen the guys Gostiny break

746
00:43:36,270 --> 00:43:41,280
down. So they had they had this
tolerance, they did decide to

747
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,940
put into play a law that says
gasoline can have no more than

748
00:43:44,940 --> 00:43:52,440
point five grammes of lead in a
gallon now, which was fine and

749
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,840
said they were making this
gasoline, but because of the

750
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:59,730
point five is point five. And
then about two or three years

751
00:43:59,730 --> 00:44:10,230
later, some idiot, change the
spec 2.500. No. So anybody who

752
00:44:10,230 --> 00:44:13,380
knows anything, and apparently
you know that, again, we're

753
00:44:13,380 --> 00:44:17,310
dealing with a public that
hasn't got a clue. And current

754
00:44:17,790 --> 00:44:21,510
State Senate and whatever, point
five or for anyone out there and

755
00:44:21,510 --> 00:44:24,030
it doesn't get the glut of
importance of the three what's

756
00:44:24,030 --> 00:44:26,700
the desert 1.5 and point five?
Oh, I can just see the argument.

757
00:44:26,970 --> 00:44:30,810
Well, the difference was is 1.5
We could make the gasoline at

758
00:44:30,810 --> 00:44:37,290
Union oil. Point five, four, and
it's in spec, technically. And

759
00:44:37,290 --> 00:44:41,400
most of the gasoline came in at
point five oh point five one

760
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,070
point for any it could be point
four nine that's inspect two,

761
00:44:44,430 --> 00:44:49,470
but it was mostly a little bit
over because the determination

762
00:44:49,470 --> 00:44:51,930
was that uh, you needed at least
a half a gramme. But if you

763
00:44:51,930 --> 00:44:55,530
change the spec to point five
oh, you're off spec at point

764
00:44:55,530 --> 00:44:59,250
five one right and point five,
two, so everything had to be

765
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,160
under two Make spec because
you're not going to hit point

766
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,040
five. Oh, rarely. So all the
gasoline started going out of

767
00:45:05,970 --> 00:45:09,480
point four 7.46 which was
started just effects the valves.

768
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,540
Yeah. And so the next thing, you
know, you know, people are

769
00:45:12,540 --> 00:45:15,660
having these issues with engines
and the rest of it and then of

770
00:45:15,660 --> 00:45:19,950
course, eventually the, the
carmakers put in better, you

771
00:45:19,950 --> 00:45:20,160
know,

772
00:45:20,370 --> 00:45:23,520
and also they came up with
synthetic lubricants right that

773
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,350
are added, added to the fuel.

774
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,820
Well, no, it's it really isn't
the insurance themselves,

775
00:45:29,820 --> 00:45:33,630
really? I mean, there's stuff in
the gas, that's for sure. That's

776
00:45:33,630 --> 00:45:34,170
pretty so is

777
00:45:34,170 --> 00:45:36,870
there no, no lead in the gas or
they still had some some?

778
00:45:37,409 --> 00:45:40,169
No lead? There's zero lead and
gas for the last, I don't know,

779
00:45:40,169 --> 00:45:44,699
20 years or 15 years or however
long it's been. But no, there's

780
00:45:44,699 --> 00:45:47,219
no lead in the gas at all. And
then there's, the engines are

781
00:45:47,219 --> 00:45:50,189
just better. I mean, they
they've just changed the way you

782
00:45:50,189 --> 00:45:53,579
know that. There was a thing
back in the day, I've never

783
00:45:53,579 --> 00:45:56,819
heard the term stands, but they
said well, the the real problem

784
00:45:56,819 --> 00:45:59,969
was valve seating by the way
more so than the rings, the

785
00:45:59,969 --> 00:46:03,149
valve seats, what would happen
if you didn't have lead? The

786
00:46:03,179 --> 00:46:06,749
valve would go and hit the head?
And then because there was no

787
00:46:06,749 --> 00:46:10,259
lubrication? It would where they
would wear down? Well, it was it

788
00:46:10,259 --> 00:46:13,829
would weld itself to the head,
because it's hot, right? So it

789
00:46:13,829 --> 00:46:17,609
would pull off a little piece of
metal and it's conventionally

790
00:46:17,639 --> 00:46:20,459
drive itself right into the
engine. So they had these things

791
00:46:20,459 --> 00:46:23,129
called so they had they had put
into it would change as they put

792
00:46:23,129 --> 00:46:26,579
in these new expensive valve
seats into the engines that were

793
00:46:26,579 --> 00:46:30,569
not susceptible to this problem.
And then they use more developed

794
00:46:30,629 --> 00:46:33,899
formulation of that metal in the
valve was, you know, it was such

795
00:46:33,899 --> 00:46:36,479
that you didn't it wasn't going
to do this was really what

796
00:46:36,479 --> 00:46:37,349
changed. What is your

797
00:46:38,460 --> 00:46:41,610
what is your vet run on? That's
unleaded, was that unleaded

798
00:46:41,610 --> 00:46:42,060
days?

799
00:46:43,830 --> 00:46:48,990
275 So I believe it's still a
lead it still was like,

800
00:46:49,830 --> 00:46:51,960
Hey, man, can I drive it? Does
it work? Does it work? Does it

801
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:56,370
start does it drive? You drive
it someday? For you please.

802
00:46:56,370 --> 00:47:00,150
John, can I drive you a bit? I
want to drive your baby.

803
00:47:00,179 --> 00:47:02,729
I gotta get back party. You
know, the problem with this bed

804
00:47:02,729 --> 00:47:05,459
is listen, dude, a bunch of
stuff is falling off of it.

805
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,010
Kind of like your Lexus. You
mean?

806
00:47:09,540 --> 00:47:15,690
My Lexus is fine. So the anyway
the vet has a there was a back

807
00:47:15,750 --> 00:47:18,270
in 75. This is back then is made
out of some sort of weird

808
00:47:18,270 --> 00:47:22,920
plastic. And it just essentially
degrades in the air starts

809
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:24,540
falling off in chunks. What?

810
00:47:25,020 --> 00:47:27,930
What colour is it? Is it because
they only made it Ryan's gonna

811
00:47:27,930 --> 00:47:30,480
say they only made solid colours
or one with a stripe. I think he

812
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,120
had white, you had yellow.
Remember that? That one in

813
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:37,200
yellow, which was extremely
ugly? Yeah, red

814
00:47:37,230 --> 00:47:42,030
thread thread. Around 70 I think
at the 79 vet, which had a real

815
00:47:42,030 --> 00:47:45,480
interesting roofline, I believe
had they came out with one and

816
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:49,140
baby blue, which is if you ever
see one, they're just absolutely

817
00:47:49,140 --> 00:47:50,670
the prettiest thing you've ever
seen on the road.

818
00:47:50,790 --> 00:47:55,710
Trisha had a Patricia had a C
five in in Belgium, which and

819
00:47:55,710 --> 00:47:58,080
she looked good in that Corvette
man. But you know, by then, of

820
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:02,520
course, the Corvette was
completely made of what is it?

821
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:08,340
fibreglass? fibreglass? Yep, and
she was in the garage and she

822
00:48:08,340 --> 00:48:11,460
was going to and she pulled into
the garage. So you pull in the

823
00:48:11,460 --> 00:48:15,510
garage, she had the top down,
and the garage door opener

824
00:48:15,510 --> 00:48:19,020
caught fire above her head, you
know, just some sort of short

825
00:48:19,020 --> 00:48:22,980
circuit. So she freaked out and
she had already she had already,

826
00:48:23,010 --> 00:48:27,600
you know, stopped the car and
already had the door open. And

827
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,480
she sees this fire. She's like
craps about my head, the roof is

828
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,930
down. So she starts the car, she
slams it in reverse to get out

829
00:48:33,930 --> 00:48:38,250
of the garage with the doors
still open. Which ploughs into

830
00:48:38,250 --> 00:48:42,690
the boiler. So the door of
course like snaps off in the 18

831
00:48:42,690 --> 00:48:46,530
million pieces because it's
fibreglass. The boiler ruptures

832
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:51,690
were complete flood everything
destroyed. And it was just

833
00:48:51,690 --> 00:48:54,720
amazing to see how that car just
you know just disintegrated

834
00:48:54,720 --> 00:48:56,460
before your very eyes that door.

835
00:48:58,260 --> 00:49:00,060
Geez. Yeah. Anyway.

836
00:49:01,469 --> 00:49:03,779
A little sideline, little
sideline that it was, it was

837
00:49:03,929 --> 00:49:06,359
funny, man, it was a funny
occurrence.

838
00:49:06,390 --> 00:49:09,030
I am sure Patricia, appreciate
you telling that story in

839
00:49:09,030 --> 00:49:10,440
public. Yeah,

840
00:49:10,469 --> 00:49:11,189
she does not.

841
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,750
Anyway, so that's the kind of
the thing about so so the point

842
00:49:15,750 --> 00:49:18,390
is, is that, you know, some
knowledge I mean, changing

843
00:49:18,390 --> 00:49:21,480
things, you know, minor, because
somebody's a nitpicker or

844
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,210
whatever, well, why are those
make it point five, all this

845
00:49:24,210 --> 00:49:27,840
kind of thing is again, part of
the kind of a problem we have

846
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:32,010
with with, you know, as we as
we're divorcing ourselves as a

847
00:49:32,010 --> 00:49:35,550
society from manufacturing, and
actually, you know, people,

848
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:39,840
kids, you know, working in on
the assembly line or just

849
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,630
anything where you're actually
having to do more than just sit

850
00:49:42,630 --> 00:49:47,010
and ring up sales at a retail
store, you know, Chinese goods,

851
00:49:47,910 --> 00:49:52,440
with no really no experience and
of any sort. It starts to sneak

852
00:49:52,470 --> 00:49:55,800
in this kind of naivete, and
stupidity starts to sneak into

853
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,560
the legislatures and the next
thing you know, we have a lot of

854
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:02,400
stupidity that It will just
permeate all levels of society.

855
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:05,520
And we have to deal with this,
essentially a bunch of we're

856
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,520
gonna have a bunch of people
that don't understand what going

857
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:11,160
by the book means and why it's
not necessarily a good thing.

858
00:50:12,090 --> 00:50:17,040
In some instances, it is good to
go by the book though. Yeah, no,

859
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:18,510
you didn't have to. You have to.

860
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:24,930
The book is written to be
flexible. Yeah.

861
00:50:26,190 --> 00:50:29,580
But still, when it comes to
aviation, I ain't that flexible.

862
00:50:30,270 --> 00:50:32,730
Yeah, I know, you keep harping
on it, but I'm sure there's

863
00:50:32,730 --> 00:50:41,010
some. There's a I'm sure your
plane is off spec. Together with

864
00:50:41,010 --> 00:50:43,920
some really, I'll bet you could
find all kinds of things to tag

865
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:44,460
on. Oh,

866
00:50:44,850 --> 00:50:48,360
I'll bet you that my, the Wing
Commander would be severely

867
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:49,920
pissed off. Have you heard you
say that?

868
00:50:51,060 --> 00:50:53,550
Betcha that he knows that
there's, there's got to be

869
00:50:53,550 --> 00:50:56,730
something off spec, whether it's
the distance from one door to

870
00:50:56,730 --> 00:50:58,770
the other, or the story the seat

871
00:50:58,799 --> 00:51:01,679
is. But that's but that's not a
regulatory issue.

872
00:51:02,010 --> 00:51:04,080
Yeah, there's probably
everywhere you look, there's

873
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:07,260
going to be something wrong. If
you're gonna go by really go by

874
00:51:07,260 --> 00:51:11,220
the spec. So the thing is, like,
you know, blueprinted, exactly

875
00:51:11,220 --> 00:51:12,180
the way but none of

876
00:51:12,180 --> 00:51:15,870
it, it doesn't have to be
blueprinted. But the checks the

877
00:51:15,930 --> 00:51:20,340
the regular inspections have to
be done. That's different.

878
00:51:20,370 --> 00:51:20,610
That's

879
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:22,560
no, they have to be done. But
I'll bet you there's a little

880
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,200
tolerance in there, you're
claiming zero tolerance for

881
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:25,860
anything?

882
00:51:26,219 --> 00:51:28,919
No, because the tolerance, the
tolerance level. So if you have

883
00:51:28,919 --> 00:51:34,439
a bolt that is known to last,
you know, 1000 hours, it will

884
00:51:34,439 --> 00:51:37,919
have to be replaced at 500
hours. So the taller it's, you

885
00:51:37,919 --> 00:51:43,649
know, the the the time between
overhaul of components is a much

886
00:51:43,649 --> 00:51:47,039
shorter time than then the
expected the lifetime of these

887
00:51:47,039 --> 00:51:50,549
components. I mean, that's not
5%. You know, you just can't cut

888
00:51:50,549 --> 00:51:53,639
it that close in aviation
because of deviation like that.

889
00:51:54,420 --> 00:51:58,020
So that's what I'm trying to
tell you. So the 1000 hour thing

890
00:51:58,020 --> 00:52:01,470
is bogus. Essentially, if you
have to pull the bolt at 500

891
00:52:01,500 --> 00:52:05,280
know that it's two separate
issues. One is, here's how long

892
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,620
this bolt will last. And the
other one is, here's how you're

893
00:52:07,620 --> 00:52:10,860
guaranteed not to die, because
you'll put a new bolt in,

894
00:52:10,860 --> 00:52:15,270
that'll be fine for another 500
hours. As different Yeah, I'm

895
00:52:15,270 --> 00:52:17,130
understanding what you're
saying. I'm just saying and

896
00:52:17,130 --> 00:52:21,780
obviously there's some fear.
Because if the bolt is really

897
00:52:21,780 --> 00:52:26,040
good for 1000 hours, really
good, guaranteed if they let's

898
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:27,180
say, of course, there's

899
00:52:27,179 --> 00:52:29,969
fear. John has fear of death.
That's obvious.

900
00:52:29,970 --> 00:52:33,150
Exactly. But the point I'm
making here is if that bolt,

901
00:52:33,210 --> 00:52:37,740
supposedly to spec is good to
1000 hours, you shouldn't have

902
00:52:37,740 --> 00:52:41,550
to worry at all until it gets to
1000 hours. Why are you worried?

903
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:44,280
Because you know, these things
aren't to spec.

904
00:52:44,940 --> 00:52:49,920
Exactly. So that's the more
egregious to not even perform

905
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:53,820
checks, which are probably well
within limits well within time

906
00:52:53,820 --> 00:52:57,060
limits, but to not do them.
That's just

907
00:52:57,510 --> 00:52:59,580
telling you not to do them. I'm
just telling you that your

908
00:52:59,580 --> 00:53:00,840
planes not up to spec.

909
00:53:02,190 --> 00:53:05,220
You know, when you come over
here, I'm putting your ass in

910
00:53:05,220 --> 00:53:08,370
the Delta shower. We're flying
in that non up to spec aircraft.

911
00:53:08,370 --> 00:53:09,870
Okay. Wow.

912
00:53:13,350 --> 00:53:14,490
The weather is clear.

913
00:53:17,670 --> 00:53:20,190
We don't need no stinking
weather. We got instruments,

914
00:53:20,220 --> 00:53:21,540
which are also up to spec.

915
00:53:22,230 --> 00:53:26,220
Well, let's hope so anyway, we
went out to dinner while you

916
00:53:26,220 --> 00:53:26,940
were out here.

917
00:53:27,210 --> 00:53:32,220
Yeah, and I realised in
hindsight, I don't think it's a

918
00:53:32,220 --> 00:53:37,050
good idea for us to do a proper
dinner on the day that I come

919
00:53:37,050 --> 00:53:37,350
in.

920
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,050
Now, you crapped out right in
the middle of it. It was

921
00:53:40,050 --> 00:53:44,220
unbelievable. You can see it
right. You can see my happy go

922
00:53:44,220 --> 00:53:49,320
lucky guy. Just hit the wall. I
did. Unbelievable.

923
00:53:49,949 --> 00:53:53,459
I apologise. I was not a great
table, mate. For half of the

924
00:53:53,489 --> 00:53:54,869
half of the dinner was

925
00:53:54,870 --> 00:53:59,340
just my calculation. It was four
o'clock in the morning, London

926
00:53:59,340 --> 00:54:01,020
time when that happened to you.

927
00:54:01,050 --> 00:54:03,300
Yeah. And we were eating caviar.

928
00:54:04,500 --> 00:54:06,780
While we're eating caviar early,
you had to hit the wall after

929
00:54:06,780 --> 00:54:10,170
that. Yeah. So I was a little
disappointed with the

930
00:54:10,170 --> 00:54:13,650
restaurant. really been there a
million times. I liked the

931
00:54:13,650 --> 00:54:16,440
place. Ficks law footless Lee,
we have to tell people what was

932
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:18,450
one of my favourite restaurants
as a good restaurant, San

933
00:54:18,450 --> 00:54:21,060
Francisco. But you know, they
got a Michelin star received a

934
00:54:21,060 --> 00:54:24,270
Michelin star. And I think that
they're trying a little too. I

935
00:54:24,270 --> 00:54:26,460
mean, it seemed to me because
I've been I've been there

936
00:54:26,460 --> 00:54:30,870
forever, that they're trying a
little too hard to be fancy.

937
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:31,950
That's a good point.

938
00:54:31,980 --> 00:54:34,110
That's a good point. I agree
with you there.

939
00:54:35,070 --> 00:54:39,000
And which is again, you know,
like I don't need, I want to eat

940
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,700
some good food. I want to have
good well prepared food. I don't

941
00:54:41,700 --> 00:54:44,700
want some weird experimentation
and there was one. There were

942
00:54:44,700 --> 00:54:46,860
two or three things in there
that were very disappointing One

943
00:54:46,860 --> 00:54:50,250
was this. The one the dish I
had, which was the crab,

944
00:54:50,700 --> 00:54:54,090
whatever the heck it was. It was
a crab appetiser that was with

945
00:54:54,660 --> 00:54:57,840
grapefruit with grapefruit
right? It had grapefruit as the

946
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:02,190
base so the grapefruit puree
which does not by the way, go

947
00:55:02,190 --> 00:55:06,240
with crab. And there was these
little pineapple things or you

948
00:55:06,300 --> 00:55:09,960
essentially had a deep fat fried
in some funny way with a bunch

949
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:13,290
of other crap on there that was
unnecessary. The whole thing

950
00:55:13,290 --> 00:55:14,940
didn't work at all

951
00:55:14,969 --> 00:55:18,929
can I just be kind respectfully
disagree that I've had several

952
00:55:18,929 --> 00:55:21,329
dishes that combined crab and
grapefruit

953
00:55:23,610 --> 00:55:25,920
Well, that's a possibility that
it could work if the grapefruit

954
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:30,030
was sweet. But this was done a
bitter and sour. But it didn't

955
00:55:30,030 --> 00:55:32,730
work. And I even thinking about
it was sweet. I wouldn't

956
00:55:32,730 --> 00:55:35,970
recommend it as a combination.

957
00:55:36,420 --> 00:55:39,420
But let's back up because we
started with an ounce of caviar,

958
00:55:40,290 --> 00:55:42,780
which I thought was spectacular.

959
00:55:43,199 --> 00:55:46,919
The caviar was good. But again,
they had some, you know, botched

960
00:55:46,919 --> 00:55:51,629
presentation. Essentially what
we had was a caviar was on a

961
00:55:51,659 --> 00:55:55,169
really interesting contenders
your Tayto Okay, Tayto blini.

962
00:55:55,169 --> 00:55:58,709
Yeah. And there was a it has
spinach and potatoes, but it

963
00:55:58,709 --> 00:56:01,679
didn't they had a sour cream on
top of that, and then the caviar

964
00:56:01,679 --> 00:56:05,309
doused on top of that. And and
that was all fine. But what was

965
00:56:05,339 --> 00:56:09,569
what was underneath the blini
was like baffling, what was the

966
00:56:09,569 --> 00:56:13,859
point of putting a combination
of small chunks of asparagus,

967
00:56:13,859 --> 00:56:17,129
asparagus, little cubes of some
fish or other? Well, the

968
00:56:17,550 --> 00:56:21,120
problem with that presentation
was because they gave us Mother

969
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:25,620
of Pearl spoons to eat it with,
you couldn't really get the

970
00:56:25,620 --> 00:56:29,130
asparagus onto the spoon because
you know, the thickness of the

971
00:56:29,130 --> 00:56:31,500
spoon was really it's really
meant for scooping caviar. So

972
00:56:31,500 --> 00:56:33,690
you couldn't actually get
anything off your plate without

973
00:56:33,690 --> 00:56:35,910
involving your fingers, which I
felt was kind of wrong.

974
00:56:36,270 --> 00:56:39,600
Well, you could use a real fork
but the point is, is that what

975
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:44,010
was the are the what was the
point of this additions to what

976
00:56:44,010 --> 00:56:47,220
should be a kind of a simple
dish. I mean, they already had

977
00:56:47,220 --> 00:56:51,570
the, the swirls of some chive
green thing around to get you

978
00:56:51,570 --> 00:56:52,680
know, make it it was a very
pretty

979
00:56:52,679 --> 00:56:55,469
dish. And it tasted good. I
liked that swirly stuff. That

980
00:56:55,469 --> 00:56:56,459
was good. It tasted good.

981
00:56:56,489 --> 00:56:58,499
Yeah, no, it was good. I wasn't
complaining about that. But

982
00:56:58,499 --> 00:57:01,229
while I was complaining about
was the unnecessary weird crap

983
00:57:01,649 --> 00:57:03,119
that was put underneath the
blini

984
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:06,360
it's just to be able to say to
put on the menu. Oh, we have

985
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:09,630
nice little pieces of asparagus
we have hidden for you under the

986
00:57:09,630 --> 00:57:10,590
potato blini

987
00:57:13,020 --> 00:57:15,810
so anyway, it's always
disappointing that the I'm

988
00:57:15,810 --> 00:57:18,510
always just went in that part of
it. I did like the caviar and

989
00:57:18,510 --> 00:57:21,060
then the crab thing was just
completely out of control. It

990
00:57:21,060 --> 00:57:21,780
was what do

991
00:57:21,780 --> 00:57:23,610
I have for my entree?

992
00:57:25,170 --> 00:57:28,740
Yeah, what did you have? I had
the crusted tenderloin you had

993
00:57:28,740 --> 00:57:33,780
like a lamb or a no or B for
some damn thing.

994
00:57:33,810 --> 00:57:39,120
I didn't I didn't buy that. Well
you had an order before that. I

995
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:39,960
had something else

996
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,990
by then you were going by the
time that entree came out it was

997
00:57:42,990 --> 00:57:46,440
some what was the order wrapped
in your shot by then?

998
00:57:46,679 --> 00:57:48,089
What What was the order

999
00:57:49,500 --> 00:57:51,870
the order of in my case was the
was the was

1000
00:57:52,710 --> 00:57:57,660
the crab right what I had
something look it up this is not

1001
00:57:57,660 --> 00:58:00,450
good. This is not good that I
already forgot what I had to

1002
00:58:00,450 --> 00:58:00,870
eat.

1003
00:58:01,949 --> 00:58:05,939
Yeah, no, that's actually a bad
sign. Here let me go look it up

1004
00:58:05,939 --> 00:58:07,379
because the menus actually
online.

1005
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:13,140
I also felt a little bit in the
in the service and the way the

1006
00:58:13,140 --> 00:58:16,050
chef was kind of walking around
in and out pontificating I also

1007
00:58:16,050 --> 00:58:18,360
felt that was a little
unnecessary. It felt like you

1008
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:21,120
know, just get the food on the
table and just move it along.

1009
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:24,390
I didn't mind that this shift
coming in and out and I didn't

1010
00:58:24,390 --> 00:58:25,020
know it was nice to be

1011
00:58:25,020 --> 00:58:27,870
came over to our table and said
hi. And you know that was I

1012
00:58:27,870 --> 00:58:28,350
thought that

1013
00:58:28,350 --> 00:58:31,680
service was stunning. It was
right on the money. They never

1014
00:58:31,740 --> 00:58:34,620
they never missed a beat. I was
not

1015
00:58:34,740 --> 00:58:39,600
it was timely but it felt it
felt a little I don't know I was

1016
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:42,300
not in my right mind. I was not
I was not saying

1017
00:58:42,780 --> 00:58:46,950
no I think the service was was
fantastic actually atmosphere

1018
00:58:46,949 --> 00:58:50,759
fantastic. Like that a lot
atmosphere was really good. And

1019
00:58:50,759 --> 00:58:54,599
the wine I couldn't appreciate
the wine as much as I usually

1020
00:58:54,599 --> 00:58:55,409
do. It was good.

1021
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,140
Well, that's uh Well that brings
up another problem which was the

1022
00:58:58,140 --> 00:59:02,160
wine Yeah, so I order a bottle
of wine and I've never had this

1023
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:04,980
happen before normally you know
I like to cherry pick you find

1024
00:59:04,980 --> 00:59:07,680
some good wine and then the guys
can't find it or they're out of

1025
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:09,870
it you know which is like
inexcusable for a start

1026
00:59:09,870 --> 00:59:11,070
restaurant be out of wine

1027
00:59:11,550 --> 00:59:13,530
with a Michelin star Excuse me.

1028
00:59:14,850 --> 00:59:17,160
So so we go there in the

1029
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:20,700
report, John they should they
should be stripped of their star

1030
00:59:20,700 --> 00:59:21,870
for that dammit. I don't

1031
00:59:22,650 --> 00:59:25,320
know I think all these ones
these starred restaurants that

1032
00:59:25,350 --> 00:59:29,820
that they're giving it to us.
Places or should be stripped. I

1033
00:59:29,820 --> 00:59:33,900
think there's only maybe I was
looking at the list. There's a

1034
00:59:33,900 --> 00:59:38,490
tonne. Like in Look at this.
There's like so many restaurants

1035
00:59:38,490 --> 00:59:43,500
with stars. In California alone.
It's ridiculous. I mean, it's

1036
00:59:43,500 --> 00:59:46,050
ludicrous. These are not
restaurants that compare to

1037
00:59:46,050 --> 00:59:50,640
anything in France. I mean,
lawfully is a good restaurant,

1038
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:52,650
but it's the I don't think it
would have a star if it was in

1039
00:59:52,650 --> 00:59:57,090
France. And I don't think that
the French Laundry should have

1040
00:59:57,090 --> 01:00:01,200
three stars. I think maybe two
men Right, cuz I think there's a

1041
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:04,290
root operation. They won't take
reservations except once a month

1042
01:00:04,290 --> 01:00:07,860
for a couple hours a day. They
won't answer the phone. I mean,

1043
01:00:07,860 --> 01:00:12,930
there's all kinds of issues that
is not doesn't warrant. It keeps

1044
01:00:12,930 --> 01:00:14,430
it from getting three stars

1045
01:00:14,460 --> 01:00:15,510
right arrogance.

1046
01:00:18,029 --> 01:00:20,969
Well, yeah, totally. So anyway,

1047
01:00:21,539 --> 01:00:24,149
John, of course, I know what we
have. We both had the same

1048
01:00:24,149 --> 01:00:25,979
thing, dude. frog's leg.

1049
01:00:26,819 --> 01:00:29,039
Oh, yeah. No, we had the Fred
that frog's legs were good than

1050
01:00:29,039 --> 01:00:29,189
what?

1051
01:00:30,149 --> 01:00:36,479
I had the goat cheese and for me
dumb bear tahini. The goat you

1052
01:00:36,479 --> 01:00:37,919
that's a goat cheese salad.

1053
01:00:38,909 --> 01:00:41,159
Right? That was much better than
mine, which was

1054
01:00:41,159 --> 01:00:45,509
really good. And then we had the
frog's legs which we both

1055
01:00:45,509 --> 01:00:47,039
thought were rather tiny.

1056
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:51,090
They were extremely small. And
where were they

1057
01:00:51,599 --> 01:00:54,479
from? They were from Florida.
Tampa. What do you say? Florida,

1058
01:00:54,479 --> 01:00:58,499
Florida, Florida frogs. All
right, back to the wine because

1059
01:00:58,739 --> 01:00:59,879
I interrupted you on that.

1060
01:01:03,060 --> 01:01:05,400
Yeah, so anyway, I ordered a
Here we go.

1061
01:01:05,820 --> 01:01:08,460
And then I had the I had the
quail. That's what I had. I

1062
01:01:08,460 --> 01:01:09,780
didn't I wouldn't get here. I

1063
01:01:09,779 --> 01:01:11,999
found the menu. It's online.
Looking at it.

1064
01:01:12,060 --> 01:01:12,810
I'm looking at it.

1065
01:01:13,380 --> 01:01:16,380
Oh, a second. I was having
trouble. Yeah. Was a frog legs.

1066
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:21,000
Tan, which was good. That was
actually pretty good. That mine

1067
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:25,410
was the Dungeness crab salad
Napoleon on crispy pineapple

1068
01:01:25,410 --> 01:01:29,760
chips, grapefruit and
pomegranate Jele. It was

1069
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:37,590
horrible. And then anyway, like
just, I like, you know, the guy

1070
01:01:37,590 --> 01:01:42,840
was the chef role and pissant he
is a core pestle. I guess he's a

1071
01:01:43,230 --> 01:01:45,780
really great guy in the end.
There. I liked the restaurant.

1072
01:01:45,780 --> 01:01:48,150
But I was just so disappointed.
And it just seemed to me that

1073
01:01:48,150 --> 01:01:51,870
there are over trying too hard.
In the old day, olden days when

1074
01:01:51,900 --> 01:01:56,190
Lu TAS was a was a big shot
place to go to in New York City.

1075
01:01:56,490 --> 01:01:59,040
That was unique in the fact that
they really didn't go into

1076
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:03,240
anything that was complicated.
It was all really well done. And

1077
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:06,090
simple. And it was always
considered the best restaurant

1078
01:02:06,090 --> 01:02:13,350
in Manhattan. So anyway, so I
was like, no all the wine. So I

1079
01:02:13,350 --> 01:02:18,630
ordered a bottle of a of a wine
was a 2003 Chateau Hallmark was

1080
01:02:18,630 --> 01:02:22,560
a and he said he would like the
marble that would you like to

1081
01:02:22,590 --> 01:02:25,380
wine to Canada? He says it's not
that old. I don't really I don't

1082
01:02:25,380 --> 01:02:27,780
like generally speaking half
these ones don't need to be the

1083
01:02:27,780 --> 01:02:29,850
candidates pretentious, just
want to breathe. They said,

1084
01:02:29,850 --> 01:02:32,640
Well, it's a Tuesday. He says,
Well, it's a 2000. I said no,

1085
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:36,300
it's three. Yeah. So he goes
back he says, Oh, I got the

1086
01:02:36,300 --> 01:02:39,210
wrong way. I got the marble
Tuesday Chateau marbles A which

1087
01:02:39,210 --> 01:02:42,870
is a different for winery. And
then he goes off to get the

1088
01:02:42,870 --> 01:02:48,060
other one which was what I
wanted to check out. So comes

1089
01:02:48,060 --> 01:02:50,010
back he says he's digging all
over. He's got a bunch of so I

1090
01:02:50,010 --> 01:02:54,090
can't find it. So I thought was

1091
01:02:54,090 --> 01:02:58,470
weird is literally what he said.
I can't find it. Most you

1092
01:02:58,469 --> 01:03:02,249
what he said. And so so we got
the other one the 2000 Marbles

1093
01:03:02,249 --> 01:03:04,769
A, which I haven't had. So I
figured it out. You know, it's

1094
01:03:04,769 --> 01:03:09,629
not bad. And it was actually
cheaper. And so we had that it

1095
01:03:09,629 --> 01:03:12,239
was fine. It was good wine, but
it wasn't what I wanted. Right.

1096
01:03:12,239 --> 01:03:12,989
So that was kind of a

1097
01:03:13,380 --> 01:03:18,180
problem. And of course we had a
we have a white Bordeaux with

1098
01:03:18,180 --> 01:03:18,690
the

1099
01:03:19,590 --> 01:03:21,900
Oh, yeah, we actually it was
surprised how good that was a

1100
01:03:21,900 --> 01:03:25,020
chateau Monet. That was good. I
liked just everyday white

1101
01:03:25,020 --> 01:03:29,790
Bordeaux. Anyway, so I'm looking
at so I got kind of into looking

1102
01:03:29,790 --> 01:03:32,550
at all these Michelin stars at
the Michelin guide people are

1103
01:03:32,580 --> 01:03:35,220
throwing out like there's no
tomorrow. I'll just

1104
01:03:35,220 --> 01:03:39,210
explain a Michelin star Michelin
is essentially like the ultimate

1105
01:03:39,210 --> 01:03:41,550
Zagat guide, I guess of France.
And

1106
01:03:41,670 --> 01:03:45,300
it's the original. It's the
original restaurant. This began

1107
01:03:45,300 --> 01:03:48,750
almost 100 years ago, Michelin
decided that they should do some

1108
01:03:48,750 --> 01:03:49,710
guys shall and by

1109
01:03:49,710 --> 01:03:52,980
the way is a is a tire
manufacturer.

1110
01:03:53,610 --> 01:03:57,240
We think most Americans didn't
have I think, Lance, I think

1111
01:03:57,240 --> 01:04:00,540
most Americans don't know. I
think they could parolees

1112
01:04:01,590 --> 01:04:04,020
now I think you're wrong.
Because I mean, he's got Costco

1113
01:04:04,050 --> 01:04:05,160
sells Michelin tires.

1114
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:09,270
So let me just bridge the gap
between tires and restaurants

1115
01:04:09,270 --> 01:04:11,370
because I don't think most
people know that.

1116
01:04:13,620 --> 01:04:17,040
Right? That's true. Go now the
reason for the guides originally

1117
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:22,080
was to sell tires. It was like
you brought this it was a guide

1118
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:25,920
that showed you all these places
you could travel on your in your

1119
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:31,590
car and wear out your tires.
Yep. So over the years, they

1120
01:04:31,590 --> 01:04:34,920
became like the experts and they
started in France of course. And

1121
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:37,260
in fact, the read guide, I
always tell people who've never

1122
01:04:37,260 --> 01:04:40,590
been to France. If you don't
have a read guide, Michelin read

1123
01:04:40,590 --> 01:04:43,470
guide in France when you're
travelling around, you're crazy.

1124
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:46,800
Because it's really the way to
go. I mean, they list all the

1125
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:49,290
little towns and they have all
the little hotels and what they

1126
01:04:49,290 --> 01:04:54,450
charge and every restaurant in
the country is unbelievable. And

1127
01:04:54,450 --> 01:04:57,270
so they came up with the system
some years ago to star and

1128
01:04:57,270 --> 01:04:59,970
there's only three stars is the
most you can get so people try

1129
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,730
It is a four star Michelin place
you know that you hear that one

1130
01:05:02,730 --> 01:05:05,850
sun was like, you know, three
stars is the most you can get.

1131
01:05:05,850 --> 01:05:10,320
And they only have a very few.
In fact, they have the list here

1132
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:17,760
of the ones stars. In Paris, for
example, there's only nine out

1133
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:21,510
of 26 in the entire country of
France, nine three star

1134
01:05:21,510 --> 01:05:27,840
restaurants 15 in Paris has 15,
two stars and 38 one stars. Now,

1135
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:32,250
when you consider the fact that
we are damn near have that we

1136
01:05:32,250 --> 01:05:34,320
don't have as many one stars in
United States, but we have

1137
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:37,350
already too many, because
they're supposed to be the most

1138
01:05:37,350 --> 01:05:39,630
strict and if you've been to
these restaurants in France,

1139
01:05:39,630 --> 01:05:42,390
this is one of the there's it's
more than just the food is of

1140
01:05:42,390 --> 01:05:45,450
food. There's the atmosphere,
there's the service.

1141
01:05:45,989 --> 01:05:51,239
This is my point. Exactly. I
believe with the wine snafu, and

1142
01:05:51,239 --> 01:05:56,819
the frickin asparagus under the
caviar blini. I think we we

1143
01:05:56,819 --> 01:05:57,659
should write them up.

1144
01:05:59,489 --> 01:06:03,659
Well, I would except for the
fact that the list of one star

1145
01:06:03,659 --> 01:06:07,139
restaurants in San Francisco,
and let me just go over a couple

1146
01:06:07,139 --> 01:06:11,819
of them here is ridiculously
long, and they're probably not

1147
01:06:11,819 --> 01:06:15,119
the worst offender. I mean,
there's it's just a ludicrous

1148
01:06:15,119 --> 01:06:18,689
list of restaurants with one
star that if you were in France,

1149
01:06:18,689 --> 01:06:21,239
these are just country places
you'd find all over the place.

1150
01:06:21,389 --> 01:06:24,209
And some of them are literally
bistro that haven't changed

1151
01:06:24,209 --> 01:06:28,349
their menu in years, like
Bistro, jaunty and Yountville.

1152
01:06:28,709 --> 01:06:31,799
And the other thing that's weird
is that if you look at the list,

1153
01:06:32,339 --> 01:06:34,889
the California Northern
California San Francisco list,

1154
01:06:35,099 --> 01:06:39,119
it's, it's obviously the guy
who's doing it or the team

1155
01:06:39,119 --> 01:06:43,829
that's doing it. They obviously
live in Healdsburg or Yountville

1156
01:06:43,829 --> 01:06:46,859
or St. Halina or someplace in
the Napa Valley, because there's

1157
01:06:46,859 --> 01:06:50,909
way too many restaurants that
are in the wine country, which

1158
01:06:50,909 --> 01:06:55,229
is you know, I mean, how many
restaurants can a population of

1159
01:06:55,229 --> 01:06:59,639
five support and there's hardly
anything on the peninsula of San

1160
01:06:59,639 --> 01:07:03,179
Jose south, there's nothing you
know, there's one place in Los

1161
01:07:03,179 --> 01:07:06,779
Gatos, but there's like, for
example, I don't want to bore

1162
01:07:06,779 --> 01:07:08,669
people with this, but there
seems to be some interest but

1163
01:07:08,669 --> 01:07:10,079
let me just complain really
quickly.

1164
01:07:10,500 --> 01:07:13,500
Before it says, I'm sorry, go
ahead. keep complaining.

1165
01:07:13,650 --> 01:07:15,960
But at the minute I'm gonna go
run over these names of these

1166
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:19,620
just to show you does the one
three star restaurant which is

1167
01:07:19,620 --> 01:07:23,400
in Yountville, which is French
Laundry, which to me, if it was

1168
01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:26,490
in France, it would maybe be
three, I doubt it probably more

1169
01:07:26,490 --> 01:07:31,350
likely to be too many because of
some of their practices. Then he

1170
01:07:31,350 --> 01:07:33,480
goes to the two star restaurants
and then they have this all

1171
01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:36,150
screwed up, because these are
hardly the best restaurants in

1172
01:07:36,150 --> 01:07:40,110
town. And they leave out for
example, the top restaurant in

1173
01:07:40,110 --> 01:07:45,570
San Francisco is known to be the
two top places actually are Gary

1174
01:07:45,570 --> 01:07:49,680
Danko is and the probably the
dining room at the Ritz Carlton

1175
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:51,480
right now. Those are the
probably the best places if you

1176
01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:54,240
want to get a good meal in San
Francisco. Go to Gary Danny goes

1177
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:57,150
or go to the Ritz Carlton's
dining room right now. Florida

1178
01:07:57,150 --> 01:08:01,050
Lee I would put up there close
to those two. But those are the

1179
01:08:01,140 --> 01:08:03,990
two places. Neither one of those
got two stars. The two star

1180
01:08:03,990 --> 01:08:07,530
places instead gave him aqua,
which is the noisiest restaurant

1181
01:08:07,530 --> 01:08:10,980
in San Francisco hate Aqua. You
hate Aqua?

1182
01:08:11,010 --> 01:08:12,900
Yes, no, no, I don't like it at
all.

1183
01:08:13,110 --> 01:08:15,660
There's a number of people that
will literally say that when you

1184
01:08:15,660 --> 01:08:20,520
mentioned it, they hate aqua and
have and I have a guy used to

1185
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:24,450
work with me. used to work there
as a sous chef and he says if

1186
01:08:24,450 --> 01:08:27,630
the chef's not around the food
just doesn't isn't worth dealing

1187
01:08:27,630 --> 01:08:27,750
just

1188
01:08:27,750 --> 01:08:32,220
shit now. Is it possible
thinkable, John that much like

1189
01:08:32,220 --> 01:08:34,800
the International Olympic
Committee, obviously there's a

1190
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:38,370
great marketing benefit to
having one two or three stars.

1191
01:08:39,330 --> 01:08:42,600
Just like it's great to have the
Olympics in your country.

1192
01:08:43,530 --> 01:08:48,120
There's been great scandal with
the with how countries are

1193
01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:52,680
chosen with payoffs and bribes.
Is it thinkable that the team

1194
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:57,450
that awards the stars maybe has
just fallen prey to bribery,

1195
01:08:57,990 --> 01:09:04,080
corruptions corruption? I don't
know. I mean, I think it's too

1196
01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:07,560
complicated to do that. I think
that just incompetent. And I

1197
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:10,080
think that's the big difference.
And I think in competencies

1198
01:09:10,440 --> 01:09:13,710
partially to blame here. But
let's go over the two star

1199
01:09:13,710 --> 01:09:16,440
restaurants Aqua nobody thinks
is a two star restaurant. In

1200
01:09:16,440 --> 01:09:19,590
fact, if it was me, I wouldn't
give it to me actually here.

1201
01:09:19,620 --> 01:09:22,860
Here's my rating. If I was gonna
give stars out, I'd give two

1202
01:09:22,860 --> 01:09:28,200
stars to the French Laundry. And
I'd give one star to Gary Danko.

1203
01:09:28,710 --> 01:09:34,530
One star to Florida Lee
tentative star to the Ritz

1204
01:09:34,530 --> 01:09:38,160
Carlton because it's a hotel
thing and it fluctuates a little

1205
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:42,180
bit in and probably one star and
maybe two just because of its

1206
01:09:42,180 --> 01:09:45,750
importance to shape and East
that's it. Hey, I brainstorm

1207
01:09:45,750 --> 01:09:46,650
another star

1208
01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:51,030
out brainstorm branch. Don't say
that. Don't say that brainstorm.

1209
01:09:51,750 --> 01:09:55,320
I mean, look, we're well known
guys. You're very knowledgeable

1210
01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:59,400
in this area. I'm the voice of
the common man when it comes to

1211
01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:02,250
the dinners. We Enjoy together
why don't we just start our own

1212
01:10:02,250 --> 01:10:05,640
rating get some free food out of
the business days is perfect is

1213
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:09,120
a great idea. So don't say you
won't give out any more start

1214
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:11,460
we'd have well we'd have to have
something different than a star

1215
01:10:11,460 --> 01:10:13,020
we have to have a different
rating system

1216
01:10:14,639 --> 01:10:17,579
Yeah, well obviously but anyway
the point is now that by the way

1217
01:10:17,579 --> 01:10:20,009
quince which is on the list is
one star is actually a really

1218
01:10:20,009 --> 01:10:24,869
good player with you, I don't
think so. No, no, no, no, no,

1219
01:10:24,900 --> 01:10:27,360
you don't want to do a rating
system with me you're not

1220
01:10:27,930 --> 01:10:30,060
gonna do a reading of it because
it's because it's so easy I just

1221
01:10:30,060 --> 01:10:33,390
named the five places that's it
for now. Yeah, I'm sure there's

1222
01:10:33,390 --> 01:10:36,570
other places anyway, so then we
go back over the two stars

1223
01:10:36,570 --> 01:10:40,260
awkward No, che TJ have not been
there's a new place it used to

1224
01:10:40,260 --> 01:10:43,080
be one star now they moved it up
and if you go to Yelp, all

1225
01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:47,340
people do is complain about it
being listed at all. Cyrus which

1226
01:10:47,340 --> 01:10:51,390
I also haven't been to which is
up in Healdsburg is probably

1227
01:10:51,870 --> 01:10:54,330
everybody thinks is a great
place and I'm gonna give them

1228
01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:57,420
some slack. That's another to
start place but as again, you

1229
01:10:57,420 --> 01:11:01,110
know up in Healdsburg Kiehl's
work is a long way from here.

1230
01:11:02,100 --> 01:11:06,750
From San Francisco, it's like an
hour or plus to get there. Man

1231
01:11:06,750 --> 01:11:09,180
race in Los Gatos, which is
about two hours from San

1232
01:11:09,180 --> 01:11:12,180
Francisco. That's one of the few
places it's actually rated south

1233
01:11:12,180 --> 01:11:15,510
of San Francisco. The meadow
would insane Halina another

1234
01:11:15,510 --> 01:11:19,980
place up in the wine country to
star restaurant, our minimum to

1235
01:11:19,980 --> 01:11:23,670
get there, Michael Mina, which
is a restaurant that opened

1236
01:11:23,670 --> 01:11:27,780
recently in the St. Francis,
which I've gone to three times

1237
01:11:27,930 --> 01:11:31,230
does not warrant a star. The
first time I went there, I

1238
01:11:31,230 --> 01:11:33,090
thought was one of the most
interesting meals I've ever had

1239
01:11:33,090 --> 01:11:36,480
was outstanding. The second time
I went there, because I brought

1240
01:11:36,480 --> 01:11:39,930
some other people's show it off.
It wasn't as good it was falling

1241
01:11:39,930 --> 01:11:42,660
off a little bit. This is the
same group that were that

1242
01:11:42,660 --> 01:11:45,300
started the Aqua by the way. So
it's a kind of an interesting

1243
01:11:45,630 --> 01:11:51,690
situation. The third time I went
there, the meal was just so so

1244
01:11:52,020 --> 01:11:55,830
and I got I got baited and
switched on the wine.

1245
01:11:55,860 --> 01:11:59,100
Oh my god. Another another
outfit we have to report.

1246
01:12:01,350 --> 01:12:04,380
So what happened with the wine
was I cherry picked which is I

1247
01:12:04,410 --> 01:12:06,840
think I hit two in a row
actually where the wine that was

1248
01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:09,750
on the listed on the list wasn't
there. They just didn't have it.

1249
01:12:09,750 --> 01:12:13,140
It was there sold out. Okay,
fine. So at that after the guy

1250
01:12:13,140 --> 01:12:15,630
comes over, after the second
time this happened, he said and

1251
01:12:15,630 --> 01:12:19,020
he says, You know what we can do
for the same price, which was a

1252
01:12:19,020 --> 01:12:22,110
reasonable price, we can offer
you this wine, which was a big

1253
01:12:22,110 --> 01:12:26,250
upgrade in you know, and they
would have to eaten the whatever

1254
01:12:26,250 --> 01:12:30,240
the 30 bucks was because I think
the difference was 30 or $40 for

1255
01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:34,350
a bottle. So I said, Okay, we
can do that. So it goes back and

1256
01:12:34,350 --> 01:12:37,950
the next thing you know, I see
him the meat guy and the maitre

1257
01:12:37,950 --> 01:12:40,920
d getting into some discussion,
the guy comes back he says,

1258
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:45,090
Well, you know, we we decided,
we decided now we decided that

1259
01:12:45,090 --> 01:12:48,270
this wine this other wine is
probably even a better choice

1260
01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:51,180
than the one that we've offered
you for the for the you know, as

1261
01:12:51,180 --> 01:12:54,450
a substitute. Yeah, it was a
better choice and it was saved

1262
01:12:54,450 --> 01:12:57,870
them 40 bucks because you know,
they, so I just thought I just

1263
01:12:57,870 --> 01:13:00,360
thought that was the worst
performance I've ever seen.

1264
01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:03,720
gumming. Unbelievable. Yeah, I
had an excuse not to go there

1265
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:06,660
off our list. They're off the
list. John, I'm keeping track

1266
01:13:06,660 --> 01:13:06,960
now.

1267
01:13:08,130 --> 01:13:11,670
So there was this restaurant.
This which was in the St. Regis

1268
01:13:11,670 --> 01:13:15,210
the worst case scenario is the
following. I'm in New York in

1269
01:13:15,210 --> 01:13:16,920
this restaurant. I can't
remember the name. It was very

1270
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:21,030
famous was in the St. Regis and
they closed

1271
01:13:22,260 --> 01:13:26,640
I stayed at the St. Regis a lot.
That big fancy place downstairs

1272
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:28,200
Yeah, downstairs. Yep,
absolutely.

1273
01:13:30,030 --> 01:13:33,630
So I go in there and you know
the place is really expensive.

1274
01:13:33,900 --> 01:13:39,390
And so I ordered a bottle of
Chateau order George Joseph drew

1275
01:13:39,390 --> 01:13:44,850
hands Oregon Pino and it's a
newer release called Lauren. And

1276
01:13:44,850 --> 01:13:48,330
if you've done the wine list
there was like it would said,

1277
01:13:48,990 --> 01:13:52,800
Joseph drew Han Loran, which is
a specific vineyard that they

1278
01:13:52,830 --> 01:13:57,450
grow as high end Pinot Noir at
and there was no other Joseph

1279
01:13:57,450 --> 01:14:02,670
drew Han, Oregon wines on the
list just this. The guy comes

1280
01:14:02,670 --> 01:14:07,650
out with the bottle and he shows
it to me. It's not the wine it

1281
01:14:07,650 --> 01:14:11,250
says just a plain old Joseph
drew hen Pino which isn't even

1282
01:14:11,250 --> 01:14:17,040
on the list. An outrage so I say
no, that's not it. The one I is

1283
01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:20,910
says Lauren on the label and
curious, I just had had the wine

1284
01:14:20,910 --> 01:14:23,460
like a couple of weeks before
and I know exactly where the

1285
01:14:23,490 --> 01:14:28,860
where the Lauren designator was.
The guy comes back with the same

1286
01:14:28,860 --> 01:14:32,700
bottle without the Loran. And he
says, no, no, this is this is

1287
01:14:32,700 --> 01:14:37,770
the only wine they make. Put my
finger on the ball and point

1288
01:14:37,770 --> 01:14:41,370
right to the spot where Lauren
is supposed to be sets. You know

1289
01:14:41,370 --> 01:14:45,990
where the vineyard name is, is
it right here? It says Lauren,

1290
01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:47,460
on the real wine.

1291
01:14:47,940 --> 01:14:50,460
Not this piano guy crap. They're
pointing off on me.

1292
01:14:51,180 --> 01:14:54,510
So the guy goes back a third
time and then he comes out with

1293
01:14:54,510 --> 01:15:00,090
the right bottle. So I'm
thinking this is on and

1294
01:15:00,090 --> 01:15:05,130
believable, vicious so. So I ran
into the guy who was the hotel

1295
01:15:05,130 --> 01:15:07,740
manager once at a wine tasting.
And I was sitting next to him by

1296
01:15:07,740 --> 01:15:13,350
coincidence. And I told him the
story. You know, I was so

1297
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:16,050
annoyed by it. And by the way,
there was other incidents in the

1298
01:15:16,050 --> 01:15:20,340
same dinner. And he says, oh,
though, yeah, I know who that

1299
01:15:20,340 --> 01:15:22,440
was. And he just the the
apparently was just like some

1300
01:15:22,440 --> 01:15:25,500
corrupt practice that was going
on at this place. Oh, no. And he

1301
01:15:25,500 --> 01:15:28,560
also mentioned to me that that
restaurant was losing something

1302
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:32,760
like a million dollars a month.
He was like, how's that

1303
01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:36,150
possible? I know those prices,
but while it's possible, because

1304
01:15:36,150 --> 01:15:39,930
obviously they're stealing from
him. I don't know. Anyway, so

1305
01:15:39,930 --> 01:15:42,900
that's, I could go on. We could
talk about the Michelin stuff

1306
01:15:42,900 --> 01:15:46,260
more later. But I just found
that the whole list with all

1307
01:15:46,260 --> 01:15:50,610
these places up in the wine
country are just ridiculous. And

1308
01:15:50,610 --> 01:15:54,780
the whole thing is and I don't
know, to be continued to be

1309
01:15:54,780 --> 01:15:57,120
continued. And then they have
this other thing where all these

1310
01:15:57,120 --> 01:16:00,960
cheaper meals and just again,
you know Petaluma, St. Halina

1311
01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:08,340
Napa Napa San Anselmo Windsor,
Santa Rosa. I mean, why don't

1312
01:16:08,340 --> 01:16:11,430
they? Where's the San Francisco,
Oakland Berkeley, I mean, the

1313
01:16:11,430 --> 01:16:15,390
whole peninsula to 31 Ellsworth
in San Mateo is never even

1314
01:16:15,390 --> 01:16:17,850
mentioned. And one of the
greatest restaurants in the Bay

1315
01:16:17,850 --> 01:16:21,510
Area is the Woodside or the or
the village tavern or village

1316
01:16:21,510 --> 01:16:25,050
pub I'm sorry, the village pub
in Woodside not mentioned in

1317
01:16:25,050 --> 01:16:27,960
that and there it's better than
a half the places listed here as

1318
01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:31,650
one star but the obviously the
dune Spectres live up in the

1319
01:16:31,650 --> 01:16:35,490
wind goes too far to drive down
to Woodside which is you know, I

1320
01:16:35,490 --> 01:16:37,050
don't know. This annoying.

1321
01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:39,150
The only place I know in
Woodside is bucks.

1322
01:16:40,770 --> 01:16:45,390
Saved probably give him a star.
So when the when the when the

1323
01:16:45,930 --> 01:16:48,420
bliss first came out in the bay
area, there's everybody's

1324
01:16:48,420 --> 01:16:50,730
fussing, you know, especially
all the French guys because they

1325
01:16:50,730 --> 01:16:53,700
got screwed. And there's a
couple of little places that

1326
01:16:53,700 --> 01:16:57,510
aren't even restaurants
essentially getting a star. And

1327
01:16:57,510 --> 01:17:00,780
the Michelin guys came up with
the argument that well, you

1328
01:17:00,780 --> 01:17:04,110
know, for its type. You know
what your restaurant is not what

1329
01:17:04,110 --> 01:17:06,900
it you know, doesn't get a star
because for its type. Oh, this

1330
01:17:06,900 --> 01:17:10,350
class sortase high. That's a
crock of crap. Where's the one

1331
01:17:10,350 --> 01:17:11,490
star taco truck?

1332
01:17:12,510 --> 01:17:13,590
We could be it.

1333
01:17:14,730 --> 01:17:17,730
Seriously, where's the one star
taco truck if it's for your type

1334
01:17:17,730 --> 01:17:21,090
and its type? Restaurants for
the type? Alright, you

1335
01:17:21,090 --> 01:17:23,370
boring me now, John. Okay, good.

1336
01:17:23,370 --> 01:17:25,110
Good. You've taken on from here?

1337
01:17:25,140 --> 01:17:28,080
No, I don't know. I like solving
the world. You're solving

1338
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:28,860
something else?

1339
01:17:29,220 --> 01:17:31,740
Yeah, my need to have a decent
meal.

1340
01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:36,030
Did you have any notes that you
wrote anything down anything we

1341
01:17:36,030 --> 01:17:37,440
can decode decipher?

1342
01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:41,670
Yeah, so I watched the Miss USA
thing last night. Oh, crap. I

1343
01:17:41,670 --> 01:17:44,100
miss that. Yeah, well,

1344
01:17:44,130 --> 01:17:49,290
I've never seen that. I caught
it during the bikini 15 winners

1345
01:17:49,290 --> 01:17:51,960
of the 15 girls that would do
the bikini thing. And it was

1346
01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:56,370
like, it was like watching. It
was like, memory of Robert

1347
01:17:56,370 --> 01:17:59,790
Palmer and he had those women
love Yep, absolutely. They all

1348
01:17:59,790 --> 01:18:02,400
looked exactly the same. It was
like look, they all had the

1349
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:04,710
exact same body. It was like

1350
01:18:04,710 --> 01:18:08,400
Is this a sponsored one? Or is
that miss you know this? No.

1351
01:18:08,490 --> 01:18:08,880
Yeah,

1352
01:18:08,910 --> 01:18:12,690
same thing. Miss unit USA is
part of Miss Universe. So they

1353
01:18:12,690 --> 01:18:15,720
had there was a cookie cutter
group. They're all tall between,

1354
01:18:15,870 --> 01:18:21,750
you know, typically five, eight
to 510 they all had teeth that

1355
01:18:21,810 --> 01:18:26,580
were bleached. To in such an
extreme that it looked like if

1356
01:18:26,580 --> 01:18:30,810
they put any more on the teeth
would just just fall apart. You

1357
01:18:30,810 --> 01:18:31,650
know, whatever. This crap

1358
01:18:31,650 --> 01:18:33,540
is hot. It's hot. I like that.

1359
01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:37,710
What else anyway, the so

1360
01:18:38,279 --> 01:18:40,469
what's your point? There's
something wrong here. I don't

1361
01:18:40,469 --> 01:18:41,009
understand that.

1362
01:18:41,819 --> 01:18:43,679
And here's what's wrong. For one
thing. They picked the wrong

1363
01:18:43,679 --> 01:18:47,189
girl. I mean, as far as I'm
concerned, Miss Oklahoma should

1364
01:18:47,189 --> 01:18:49,739
have won the whole thing. She
was the only one that had. What

1365
01:18:49,739 --> 01:18:53,429
was her talent? It didn't look
like a cookie cutter. She

1366
01:18:53,429 --> 01:18:56,249
actually had kind of a she was a
blonde. She's cute Danica

1367
01:18:56,249 --> 01:18:58,199
Patrick looks as she had a more
modern look

1368
01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:00,930
pleasant a little tomboyish? Is
that what you mean?

1369
01:19:01,709 --> 01:19:06,509
A little bit of a she's 510 and
dynamite. But anyway.

1370
01:19:07,230 --> 01:19:08,850
What's her talent? What's her
talent?

1371
01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:12,000
There was no talent. This is not
one where they have talent that

1372
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:13,050
you were What did she

1373
01:19:13,110 --> 01:19:16,020
say something saving the world
high heels is their talent. She

1374
01:19:16,020 --> 01:19:18,300
say something about saving the
world? Come on, they have to do

1375
01:19:18,300 --> 01:19:19,590
the interview questions.

1376
01:19:19,830 --> 01:19:22,500
Okay, well, let me go to that
part of my little list of

1377
01:19:22,500 --> 01:19:26,580
complaints. So the one of the
girls who was really actually

1378
01:19:26,580 --> 01:19:29,220
one of the better looking ones
and I could have been a winner I

1379
01:19:29,220 --> 01:19:33,570
believe was just want to point
out Sylvania you are

1380
01:19:33,570 --> 01:19:36,300
the man that yelled at me for
liking reality television yet

1381
01:19:36,300 --> 01:19:39,480
you're willing to sit through
the Miss USA Competition fantasy

1382
01:19:39,480 --> 01:19:40,200
to criticise

1383
01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:44,550
it, not to praise it. Okay. So
here's the here's the kicker,

1384
01:19:44,730 --> 01:19:49,350
Miss Pennsylvania who's
gorgeous. She has to come up to

1385
01:19:49,350 --> 01:19:53,640
due date and they pick this
weird they do this weird thing.

1386
01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:59,370
They pick from a bin or Donnie
picks from a bin Donny or they

1387
01:19:59,370 --> 01:20:01,950
pick from a dog Donny Osmond.
Oh, Tony. Oh, it was they were

1388
01:20:01,950 --> 01:20:05,070
hosting it. Oh, fantastic. So
anyway, so they pick from a bin

1389
01:20:05,070 --> 01:20:07,470
and they give the thing to
Donnie. And Donnie says, Okay,

1390
01:20:07,470 --> 01:20:10,950
your question will come from and
they have like 10 judges, and

1391
01:20:10,950 --> 01:20:13,320
these are the top five girls.
Five people going to ask

1392
01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:16,650
questions, they have these
canned questions. So this poor

1393
01:20:16,650 --> 01:20:23,070
woman from Pennsylvania gets
that idiot. Heather Mills, who

1394
01:20:23,070 --> 01:20:31,830
was one of the judges Oh, no, as
the questioner. Okay. So Heather

1395
01:20:31,830 --> 01:20:35,730
Mills asked her what she thinks
about selling, you know that the

1396
01:20:35,730 --> 01:20:39,810
big makeup companies and
cosmetics firms are marketing to

1397
01:20:39,810 --> 01:20:43,500
kids. Do you think this is
right? And of course, the

1398
01:20:43,500 --> 01:20:46,380
probably the poor woman from
Pennsylvania doesn't know what I

1399
01:20:46,500 --> 01:20:50,910
was, what a nut job this Heather
Mills is, and how she's like a

1400
01:20:50,910 --> 01:20:55,860
vegan and a screwball. A vegan?
What do you mean to Vegas?

1401
01:20:56,280 --> 01:21:01,290
Pagan? Pagan is what you mean?
Yeah. So the woman says, Well,

1402
01:21:01,290 --> 01:21:03,510
you know, there's a lot of you
know, and she kind of hemmed in

1403
01:21:03,510 --> 01:21:06,270
hard, but says, Yeah, it's fine,
because there's some products,

1404
01:21:06,270 --> 01:21:08,550
you know, and we'd like facial
cleaners and things like that.

1405
01:21:08,550 --> 01:21:10,380
She knows she didn't say that.
But yesterday, she was hinting

1406
01:21:10,380 --> 01:21:13,290
it would be okay. And you could
just see the look on Heather's

1407
01:21:13,290 --> 01:21:17,430
face like she's low balling this
chick. Yeah. And in fact, Miss

1408
01:21:17,430 --> 01:21:21,330
Pennsylvania came in dead last,
because Heather probably zeroed

1409
01:21:21,330 --> 01:21:24,300
her out what you can do in these
kinds of competitions that just

1410
01:21:24,330 --> 01:21:27,810
lower the number. And Heather
was just sitting there steaming

1411
01:21:27,810 --> 01:21:30,720
that this girl would not have
said what she would hope she'd

1412
01:21:30,720 --> 01:21:36,570
say, No, all cosmetic companies
are evil. They test on animals.

1413
01:21:37,650 --> 01:21:42,930
She's just so she was out. So I
thought that was pretty bad.

1414
01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:45,960
Just just just one thing. I'm
looking at the website from Miss

1415
01:21:45,960 --> 01:21:49,050
usa.com. Second follow along
look at these girls. So there's

1416
01:21:49,050 --> 01:21:53,070
two huge banner ads on the on
the entire website. Guess what

1417
01:21:53,070 --> 01:21:53,730
they're for?

1418
01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:59,340
Cosmetics, weight loss, or
weight loss. Right? Drop. Drop.

1419
01:22:01,230 --> 01:22:06,450
The pink patch.co.uk. So it's
actually a patch that you put

1420
01:22:06,450 --> 01:22:11,940
onto your abdomen, and it helps
you lose weight. Yeah. Oh, my

1421
01:22:11,940 --> 01:22:18,810
God. How sick is that? That's
sick. Crystal Stewart. That's

1422
01:22:18,810 --> 01:22:23,460
her name. The one from
Pennsylvania. No, no. Miss USA.

1423
01:22:24,540 --> 01:22:28,560
Oh, yeah. That she's the girl
from Texas. Yeah. Yeah, I don't

1424
01:22:28,560 --> 01:22:33,660
even know she was okay. Except
for the 46. She's 26

1425
01:22:33,870 --> 01:22:37,560
If the tutor her face looks has
the features of the Cryptkeeper

1426
01:22:39,090 --> 01:22:41,910
you know what I had questions.
She looked a little bit too much

1427
01:22:41,910 --> 01:22:45,030
like Condoleezza Rice. And
here's the other thing that I

1428
01:22:45,030 --> 01:22:47,250
saw on the show and I actually
took some photos of this I was

1429
01:22:47,250 --> 01:22:49,410
thinking of blogging because I
get carried away watching this

1430
01:22:49,410 --> 01:22:55,260
crap. So Donny Osmond and only
one time first he gives the he

1431
01:22:55,260 --> 01:22:58,770
takes the question out and he
opens it and shares it with

1432
01:22:58,770 --> 01:23:02,970
Marie. Lets her read it and with
with the woman from Texas who

1433
01:23:02,970 --> 01:23:07,380
was a black girl, he pulls the
thing out or she she gives him

1434
01:23:07,380 --> 01:23:11,100
the thing he says, Let me read
this one, Marie and he kind of

1435
01:23:11,100 --> 01:23:13,890
holds it away from her and Marie
has to kind of look over to see

1436
01:23:13,890 --> 01:23:18,000
what it is. And he says your
question comes from number nine.

1437
01:23:18,210 --> 01:23:22,080
Sean Merryman the only black
judge coincidentally,

1438
01:23:22,710 --> 01:23:24,510
man. Okay.

1439
01:23:24,989 --> 01:23:27,929
And then he keeps the thing
close to his vest. And I think

1440
01:23:27,929 --> 01:23:30,809
Murray got a glimpse of it
because you had if you have to

1441
01:23:30,809 --> 01:23:33,539
you can do you can pull this off
because said anything on there,

1442
01:23:33,539 --> 01:23:36,599
but you know, whatever. And she
had a weird look on her face.

1443
01:23:36,599 --> 01:23:39,959
Like this is like, something's
weird here. It's going on. So

1444
01:23:39,959 --> 01:23:43,469
Shawn Merriman, the only black
Judge asked the only black

1445
01:23:43,469 --> 01:23:46,709
contestant some softball
question about something or

1446
01:23:46,709 --> 01:23:50,819
other. She answered it rather
poorly, to be honest about it. I

1447
01:23:50,819 --> 01:23:54,419
didn't think it was pull it off.
But that was that and Donnie

1448
01:23:54,419 --> 01:23:58,469
says Good answer. And he gets
queued on any he ditches this

1449
01:23:58,469 --> 01:24:01,049
thing into the into the drawer.
The next one he pulls out, you

1450
01:24:01,049 --> 01:24:03,809
know, he the tool, look at it
together. And it was like

1451
01:24:03,809 --> 01:24:06,239
everything was kosher after
that. So I think that the whole

1452
01:24:06,239 --> 01:24:07,169
thing is rigged.

1453
01:24:07,409 --> 01:24:11,429
Well, dude, here's the rest of
the here's the the judging

1454
01:24:11,429 --> 01:24:17,789
panel. Okay, Heather Mills. Oh,
this is cool. I'm reading from

1455
01:24:17,789 --> 01:24:19,709
the from the website. Actually,
it actually gives their

1456
01:24:19,709 --> 01:24:23,009
credentials. Okay. These are the
people who have the credentials

1457
01:24:23,009 --> 01:24:27,269
to choose Miss USA representing
the proud United States of

1458
01:24:27,269 --> 01:24:31,019
America. Ladies and gentlemen,
Heather Mills, a Brit who was a

1459
01:24:31,019 --> 01:24:34,529
contestant on Season Four of
Dancing with the Stars and not

1460
01:24:34,919 --> 01:24:39,659
not mentioning that. She's She
divorced Paul McCartney. Rob

1461
01:24:39,659 --> 01:24:44,249
Schneider. Star of I Now
Pronounce You Chuck and Larry.

1462
01:24:45,749 --> 01:24:50,849
Joey's tone host of the singing
be formerly of a boy band blue I

1463
01:24:50,849 --> 01:24:56,429
think Christian Alfonso
entrepreneur and starve NBCs

1464
01:24:56,429 --> 01:25:00,479
Days of Our Lives a soap star, a
Olympic gold medal. Winner

1465
01:25:00,509 --> 01:25:08,399
Amanda beard. Christian sera,
sera. How's it Christian Cyrano.

1466
01:25:08,969 --> 01:25:13,679
The seasons winner of Bravo's
hit show Project Runway. San

1467
01:25:13,679 --> 01:25:19,979
Diego Chargers linebacker Sean
lights out Merryman. Silver

1468
01:25:19,979 --> 01:25:24,869
celebrity hairstylist Ken paves,
Kelli Carlson star of Nip Tuck

1469
01:25:25,409 --> 01:25:26,279
founder and CEO

1470
01:25:26,280 --> 01:25:28,650
a sheet by the way, Kelly
Carlson look better than all

1471
01:25:28,650 --> 01:25:30,030
those girls that are bet
generally.

1472
01:25:31,080 --> 01:25:34,230
And then founder and CEO of
Planet Hollywood International

1473
01:25:34,230 --> 01:25:37,830
Inc, Robert Earl and Vanity Fair
celebrity journalist George

1474
01:25:37,830 --> 01:25:40,020
wine, they should have put like
Perez Hilton in there that would

1475
01:25:40,020 --> 01:25:41,640
have completed the lineup. Well,
they

1476
01:25:41,640 --> 01:25:45,840
had that one guy that little
weird gay character who is this

1477
01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:50,700
kind of who ended up asking Miss
Oklahoma who was I was rooting

1478
01:25:50,700 --> 01:25:51,270
for who was

1479
01:25:51,570 --> 01:25:54,780
a little weird gay character.
John is a little weird just gave

1480
01:25:54,780 --> 01:25:55,620
me all the names.

1481
01:25:55,950 --> 01:26:02,880
I know he's one of those guys is
he's just a weird funny little

1482
01:26:03,750 --> 01:26:06,060
he's a little skinny little gay
character and he plays you know,

1483
01:26:06,060 --> 01:26:08,310
he I don't even know if he's
really gay. But he sure plays

1484
01:26:08,310 --> 01:26:11,970
one. And he's you know, but it's
like that exaggerated phoney

1485
01:26:11,970 --> 01:26:18,870
baloney almost, almost insulting
gay. And he asked the Miss

1486
01:26:18,870 --> 01:26:22,530
Oklahoma question about do you
know who some idiotic questions?

1487
01:26:22,770 --> 01:26:25,680
Were Britney Spears came into
the conversation. Oh, thank

1488
01:26:25,680 --> 01:26:26,310
goodness, we

1489
01:26:26,310 --> 01:26:30,630
worked her sunken Miss Oklahoma,
actually. So it was in to her?

1490
01:26:31,289 --> 01:26:34,919
Can you just let me my point is
being made here, John, that the

1491
01:26:34,949 --> 01:26:39,449
interviews is the most important
part of these of these pageants,

1492
01:26:39,719 --> 01:26:43,169
because you can totally get, you
know, lose it on your answer.

1493
01:26:43,680 --> 01:26:46,800
Right. And that brings me to the
only point I was actually trying

1494
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:51,120
to make, okay, which is that
there's been numerous studies

1495
01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:54,510
done by universities all over
the place about the order of

1496
01:26:54,510 --> 01:27:00,120
appearance, and the resultant
scores from judges. And so

1497
01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:04,950
everything that happens last, he
becomes more important than what

1498
01:27:04,950 --> 01:27:08,070
happens early makes and it's
particularly true with people

1499
01:27:08,070 --> 01:27:10,860
who come rolling out on like,
you know, here we go with the

1500
01:27:10,860 --> 01:27:13,140
bathing suit contest. Let's
judge number one, number two,

1501
01:27:13,140 --> 01:27:16,320
number three number, the number
one person 99% of the time, no

1502
01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:19,800
matter how they look, we'll get
one of the lowest if not the

1503
01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:24,120
lowest scores. And the last
person tends to get higher

1504
01:27:24,120 --> 01:27:27,540
scores. And so it builds because
the judges as they get warmed

1505
01:27:27,540 --> 01:27:29,790
up, they start getting looser.
And then pretty soon they're

1506
01:27:29,790 --> 01:27:32,520
given bigger numbers. And that's
what happened in this. So I

1507
01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:37,200
watched the, the, the gown thing
after the bathing suit thing.

1508
01:27:37,590 --> 01:27:39,720
They had the girls come out and
gowns and it was like some of

1509
01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:42,960
these gowns are just horrible.
But the girl who came out with a

1510
01:27:42,960 --> 01:27:46,650
really nice black dress and she
was really pretty she didn't she

1511
01:27:46,650 --> 01:27:50,730
was supposed to go for elegance
and all this other stuff comes

1512
01:27:50,730 --> 01:27:54,540
out as Miss Massachusetts. So I
took my pen out and started

1513
01:27:54,540 --> 01:27:57,030
writing down the scores as they
came up because they put them up

1514
01:27:57,150 --> 01:28:03,930
so you can see this trend. So
she comes out first. 8.4 Okay,

1515
01:28:03,930 --> 01:28:06,780
fine. Then the next person comes
out. It's kind of pretty, but

1516
01:28:06,780 --> 01:28:09,240
she's no better than Miss
Massachusetts and probably not

1517
01:28:09,240 --> 01:28:11,430
as elegant because if she was
Massachusetts, girls wearing

1518
01:28:11,430 --> 01:28:17,100
black and she could walk in
heels. 8.6 then New Jersey comes

1519
01:28:17,100 --> 01:28:18,930
out who I thought was good
looking anywhere. She should

1520
01:28:18,930 --> 01:28:22,230
have gotten a really high score
because she was gorgeous. 8.9 So

1521
01:28:22,230 --> 01:28:24,060
it's just almost like they're
just adding you know, it's not

1522
01:28:24,060 --> 01:28:24,600
even looking at

1523
01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:27,210
me. Now do their scores
determine the ultimate winner or

1524
01:28:27,210 --> 01:28:28,230
was there like an ad? It's

1525
01:28:28,230 --> 01:28:31,440
our SMS texted scores and then I
think they do a final I don't

1526
01:28:31,440 --> 01:28:32,100
know. Did they do

1527
01:28:32,100 --> 01:28:35,580
SMS texting the public TOS or
was it just the judges?

1528
01:28:35,610 --> 01:28:41,070
No. Just the judges. I slowly go
out. Go 8.4 8.6 8.9 Next one

1529
01:28:41,070 --> 01:28:44,910
Pennsylvania girl comes out. She
is stiff. She's only got screwed

1530
01:28:44,910 --> 01:28:47,610
by Heather. She's stiff. She
doesn't look like she really

1531
01:28:47,610 --> 01:28:53,130
likes to walk around and gowns
at all. 9.0 or 9.1 Almost. It

1532
01:28:53,130 --> 01:28:57,270
just gets worse. The Danica
Patrick girl from Oklahoma who

1533
01:28:57,270 --> 01:29:00,780
had the one of the worst gowns
imagine it was just a horrible

1534
01:29:00,780 --> 01:29:05,670
looking thing. She comes out and
actually trips she stumbled. She

1535
01:29:05,670 --> 01:29:07,830
gets nine point she gets 9.3

1536
01:29:07,860 --> 01:29:10,800
I love it when that happens.
That's life. I live over there.

1537
01:29:11,460 --> 01:29:14,340
It was it was it was subtle. It
was just a little bit he

1538
01:29:14,340 --> 01:29:15,240
stumbled was it like

1539
01:29:16,230 --> 01:29:20,040
you should not be getting a 9.6
If you stumble I'm sorry three

1540
01:29:20,640 --> 01:29:23,160
points. The point is is it
builds and builds and builds.

1541
01:29:23,430 --> 01:29:28,080
And then next Mississippi comes
out who's had another horrible

1542
01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:31,020
outfit I mean this she made her
you because you just saw her in

1543
01:29:31,020 --> 01:29:34,230
a bikini. She's beautiful shape.
She's wearing this I don't know

1544
01:29:34,230 --> 01:29:37,770
how you can even find a dress
that makes what's probably a

1545
01:29:37,770 --> 01:29:43,980
perfect body look like it's got
a big square but huge because

1546
01:29:43,980 --> 01:29:48,120
it's the same girl gluteus
maximus. It's amazing what

1547
01:29:48,150 --> 01:29:52,530
dresses can do. She got an 8.9
which is way too high. And it

1548
01:29:52,530 --> 01:29:54,990
went and then Texas when she
comes to get it all the scores

1549
01:29:54,990 --> 01:29:57,300
are bigger at the end except
that I have to say they backed

1550
01:29:57,300 --> 01:30:02,100
off which is unusual, Indiana
guy slammed 8.5 in Florida with

1551
01:30:02,100 --> 01:30:07,830
8.5 who look like a horse in
this thing. Now, the point is

1552
01:30:07,830 --> 01:30:11,610
though the first girl got the
lowest score and it was on the

1553
01:30:11,610 --> 01:30:13,320
order she wouldn't have Yeah,

1554
01:30:13,590 --> 01:30:17,970
that's why it should be an SMS
vote this makes no sense these

1555
01:30:17,970 --> 01:30:21,090
idiots I mean, who I mean people
listening to us will say who are

1556
01:30:21,090 --> 01:30:24,060
you guys to judge but Who are
those guys to judge

1557
01:30:25,530 --> 01:30:28,950
so the whole thing is just a
ridiculous exercise. I'm

1558
01:30:28,950 --> 01:30:31,350
surprised I wasn't even going to
watch the whole thing and I just

1559
01:30:31,350 --> 01:30:33,810
getting madder and madder
watching whatever. And then when

1560
01:30:33,810 --> 01:30:36,660
Heather Mills pulled that stunt
with the makeup cosmetics

1561
01:30:36,660 --> 01:30:38,400
question, she should have just
shot.

1562
01:30:38,760 --> 01:30:45,840
Yeah. So this was the banner
just rotated. Feeling fat. Lose

1563
01:30:45,840 --> 01:30:50,940
the tummy fast and easy with
pink is the drug dealers. Dude,

1564
01:30:51,000 --> 01:30:53,040
this whole thing is pushers.

1565
01:30:54,600 --> 01:30:55,740
This was like

1566
01:30:57,300 --> 01:31:00,120
produced by NBC entertainment. I
thought I was wondering if it

1567
01:31:00,120 --> 01:31:02,520
was like a Burnett it probably
sucked How was the production

1568
01:31:02,520 --> 01:31:03,390
just sucked right?

1569
01:31:03,810 --> 01:31:07,890
No, actually the production was
quite good. Usually. I was most

1570
01:31:07,890 --> 01:31:10,650
surprised by the studio they had
they were doing it in this new

1571
01:31:10,650 --> 01:31:13,920
casino that I didn't even know
existed the what do you call it

1572
01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:16,380
the hall plan at Highland
Hollywood hotel?

1573
01:31:17,460 --> 01:31:20,640
For a while hasn't it opened?
Yeah, we had a promotion on our

1574
01:31:20,640 --> 01:31:24,240
network we we opened it up with
the black peas and and a band

1575
01:31:24,240 --> 01:31:28,530
could perform on stage I forget
who won but yeah, that was late

1576
01:31:28,530 --> 01:31:29,100
last year.

1577
01:31:30,360 --> 01:31:36,300
Whatever the case, the they have
a stage and a facility for doing

1578
01:31:36,300 --> 01:31:40,140
productions like this. That is
absolutely fantastic. Nice. So

1579
01:31:40,170 --> 01:31:42,270
no, I thought the production was
good. It wasn't bad. It didn't

1580
01:31:42,270 --> 01:31:46,470
have any you know, is that
there's a lot of promotion going

1581
01:31:46,470 --> 01:31:48,810
on during the thing Donnie
Murray kept plugging each other

1582
01:31:48,810 --> 01:31:52,380
you know, yeah, we got to show
over here. By the way between

1583
01:31:52,380 --> 01:31:54,900
now after this, you can come by
and see us you will be doing our

1584
01:31:54,900 --> 01:31:56,190
10 o'clock you know or whatever.

1585
01:31:56,400 --> 01:31:58,320
That's kind of that that's kind
of the deal with those shows.

1586
01:31:58,320 --> 01:32:00,960
You know that the always wants
someone who has a new show

1587
01:32:00,960 --> 01:32:03,000
coming out or something to
promote because you can get them

1588
01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:06,450
to host it on the cheap. That's
like a circus of the stars. And

1589
01:32:06,450 --> 01:32:09,180
if you remember that show, I was
on that one. I remember why I

1590
01:32:09,180 --> 01:32:10,050
was on it. But

1591
01:32:11,970 --> 01:32:15,450
that's one of the guys that was
stuffed in a small car. No, I

1592
01:32:15,450 --> 01:32:20,820
told you I was in the rocket car
of death. Rock. I told you that,

1593
01:32:20,820 --> 01:32:26,880
didn't I? Yeah, I think so. It's
pretty funny. So anyway, so this

1594
01:32:26,880 --> 01:32:27,360
was my

1595
01:32:27,390 --> 01:32:30,540
footage of that. Someone has
footage of me in the rocket car

1596
01:32:30,540 --> 01:32:36,510
of death circus of the stars. I
think it was 1992 Maybe

1597
01:32:37,860 --> 01:32:38,640
someone will have it.

1598
01:32:39,120 --> 01:32:43,860
I've been looking for it on
Hulu. They do have they have

1599
01:32:43,860 --> 01:32:46,260
swamp thing on there. I did a
full a whole episode of swamp

1600
01:32:46,260 --> 01:32:49,530
thing but that season two they
only have season one up. You

1601
01:32:49,530 --> 01:32:54,240
were on Swamp Thing. Yeah, I was
the lead role. In the episode

1602
01:32:54,270 --> 01:32:55,620
smoke and mirrors.

1603
01:32:57,090 --> 01:32:58,410
What did you play a bad guy?

1604
01:32:59,249 --> 01:33:05,309
Nathan? Rock star out of control
Rockstar quite a stretch. Quite

1605
01:33:05,309 --> 01:33:08,189
a stretch typecasting. Hey,
John. It's about an hour and a

1606
01:33:08,189 --> 01:33:10,349
half now and the dog is freaking
out here.

1607
01:33:11,460 --> 01:33:13,320
All right. Well, let me just say
got one more thing to say and

1608
01:33:13,320 --> 01:33:17,910
I'm done. Okay. William Shatner
was on Jay Leno last night.

1609
01:33:17,940 --> 01:33:20,610
Oh, yeah, I missed that too. I
heard I saw the plug. How was

1610
01:33:20,610 --> 01:33:20,820
he?

1611
01:33:21,450 --> 01:33:24,270
Well, he's je was William
Shatner. But anyway, I would

1612
01:33:24,270 --> 01:33:26,700
tell people that if you ever see
William Shatner, there's a short

1613
01:33:27,000 --> 01:33:29,520
thing to note. He only been
admitted to this once by the way

1614
01:33:29,520 --> 01:33:32,910
it was on Letterman years and
years ago, when he comes on the

1615
01:33:32,910 --> 01:33:36,480
show and starts telling these
stories. The stories are all

1616
01:33:36,540 --> 01:33:40,770
crap. They're bullshit. And he
had the story by sliding and

1617
01:33:40,950 --> 01:33:44,520
just on the way over kind of you
know, he crashed his motorcycle

1618
01:33:44,520 --> 01:33:47,670
and he was wearing a skimpy
shirt holy head on and it just a

1619
01:33:47,670 --> 01:33:51,270
bogus phoney story. He does
these. Nothing law says

1620
01:33:51,330 --> 01:33:54,150
it's all it's all a lie. It's
all a pack of lies. But it's

1621
01:33:54,150 --> 01:33:55,320
funny. It's entertaining.

1622
01:33:56,010 --> 01:33:59,400
That's why he does it,
obviously. But just note that

1623
01:33:59,400 --> 01:34:02,760
when you see him don't go wow,
what a fascinating life he

1624
01:34:02,760 --> 01:34:03,090
leads.

1625
01:34:05,130 --> 01:34:09,390
Hey, dude, he he played opposite
Heather Locklear. So he's my

1626
01:34:09,390 --> 01:34:09,870
hero.

1627
01:34:12,000 --> 01:34:13,170
Yeah, it would be

1628
01:34:13,470 --> 01:34:17,430
like, I love Boston Legal to the
writing is spectacular.

1629
01:34:17,730 --> 01:34:20,430
Yeah, I've stopped watching it.
I think this season is getting

1630
01:34:20,430 --> 01:34:22,590
kind of I think is getting slow.

1631
01:34:24,390 --> 01:34:27,900
While I'm behind here, because
we get it later, obviously, but

1632
01:34:27,930 --> 01:34:29,430
I'm still enjoying it very much.

1633
01:34:29,820 --> 01:34:32,730
Well, that's probably the last
the next season when you start

1634
01:34:32,730 --> 01:34:35,220
to see it. You probably think
less of it. Okay.

1635
01:34:36,390 --> 01:34:39,060
All right, John, my friend. My
wife is coming home soon my wife

1636
01:34:39,060 --> 01:34:42,150
and daughter from Amsterdam, so
I got to prepare the house for

1637
01:34:42,150 --> 01:34:47,820
them to get to work. This was
fun. We have a lot more to talk

1638
01:34:47,820 --> 01:34:51,210
about. Should we do it again
next week? I think so. You got

1639
01:34:51,210 --> 01:34:55,140
yourself a date in the curry
manner in Guilford. I'm Adam

1640
01:34:55,140 --> 01:34:55,620
curry.

1641
01:34:56,400 --> 01:34:59,040
And as the temperature goes up,
and up and up, I'm John C.

1642
01:34:59,040 --> 01:35:00,270
Dvorak in northern Calif. on you

1643
01:35:00,480 --> 01:35:03,240
and we'll talk again next week
on no agenda

