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It's time once again for the
programme that we look forward

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to every week. Will it come
Friday? Will it come Saturday?

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Will it come Sunday? Well, it
has no release date. Nor does it

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have music commercials, jingles
or anything planned because we

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have no agenda coming to you
from a very dark Saturday

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evening in the United Kingdom.
I'm Adam curry.

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And I'm John C. Dvorak coming to
you from a very sunny Northern

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California could not

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be more opposite today. I'm sure
we have really crap weather.

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Well, what's weird you know, you
had that snow recently and up in

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Washington. I have a place in
Port Angeles. And it snowed two

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inches in yesterday. And look at
the date

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is April 19. No snow here, but
we do have missed it's been

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Misty all day. I had like one
kilometre visibility. So I

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actually was gonna go flying
today. Not happening.

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No, I wouldn't think so.

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I can hear heartbreak all over
the world. Hey, John, we haven't

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actually talked this week. Have
we at all? I don't think during

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all you've been busy. I've been
very heads down. Yeah, it's been

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it's been pretty crazy. I've had
a it's been working with, with

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the UK production folks on lots
of video assets that we're

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building. And I've also I've
been tinkering all week, as you

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know, because I actually
suggested when was it maybe to

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Monday or Tuesday I suggested
that we try out sip the SI P SIP

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protocol for these calls.

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Yeah. And stands for Session
Initiation Protocol. I think

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it really I didn't even know
what it stood for. I thought it

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would be something sexier than
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No, it's really boring.

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And then shall I just do you
mind if I if I read everybody

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your response?

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Well, actually, let me summarise
it mainly because the guy who

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does gizmo is a friend of mine.
And I don't want to sound like

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I'm saying horrible things. So
you

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did What are you talking about?
I have the email right here in

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front of me.

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Yeah, I didn't like gizmo.

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But I'm not talking about I did
recommend gizmo is an easy way

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to get to, to the SIP system, if
you will.

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A lot of people you know talk
about you know, I there's a lot

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of people in the telecom
business SIP was highly touted.

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Some years ago, actually, in the
late 90s. When I was writing for

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Forbes. There I when I first
kind of really started chatting

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it for, you know, in detail with
with Jeff Pulver right? There

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was a big belief in the industry
that all telephone calls would

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be free. And that SIP itself
would be the hot ticket that

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would really make everything
work together. And it was it was

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the hottest thing going from
telecom. And as it evolved, it

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would be the be all end all and
a lot of people still use it for

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stocks. In fact, there's a lot
of products out there that are

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SIP based because it is a
standard and you can make SIP

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programmes. The problem is it
doesn't work. Of course, a bunch

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of people are gonna say, oh, it
works. It works fine. Yeah, it

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works under some circumstances,
but doesn't work for what we're

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doing. Because Leo has tried it.
When we did twit some years ago,

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we started trying some of these
other alternatives. And they

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Yeah, they work for a fact that
I when I was in Germany a couple

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years ago, I use the SIP or to
talk to my wife from the hotel.

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She's in, you know, the United
States. I'm in Germany, and it

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was great. And it works great
under no circumstances but it

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when it hiccups, it really has
some issues that make it day

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worse than Skype.

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Okay, well, I haven't I
obviously haven't tried it out

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long enough. I know I've
tinkered with it, I think it was

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maybe remember that that
software x 10, or something was

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called or the x x lite or I can
remember it well they've pretty

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much improved that they've got
all kinds of software and gizmo

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is one software package you can
use the tests that I've done

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were fantastic.

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You know it, it has a fantastic
quality when you know when it's

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running right and that's you
know, not what the problem is.

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The problem is when it when it
craps out, it's a disaster. And

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the thing I didn't like about
gizmo which made it even more

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problematic is gizmo is really
was poorly thought out in its

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implementation. It goes into the
machine it auto boots it, it

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chews up all kinds of cycles
when you can't get it off the

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machine it it goes into the
registry, it has all these

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things. I mean, I had it on one
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we reboot the machines this
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machine it was like it was doing
it was worse than a virus. Yeah,

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it's when it when it starts the
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you know, four or five minutes
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and it does it does kind of
freeze up stuff I agree on

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starting once it's running, it
seems to be okay.

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Well, this new dad but who needs
the aggravation? So anyway, the

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I just thought it was
aggravating the product was

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aggravating.

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How long ago was this that you
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Have there been any
improvements? I just don't

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understand if it's an open
protocol, and they have all

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these awesome codecs, what is
what is Skype doing that these

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guys wouldn't be able to? I
mean, it seems like a clearly a

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great advantage, a great
alternative to Skype. And when

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it's working, as you said, it
works great, it sounds fine. So

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it was, it seems like there's
like a reconnection is different

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than Skype or Skype will just
degrade severely and kind of

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hang in there. I mean, I mean,

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that we'd have to talk to the
Skype guy. But the, there's

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something about they're doing
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that keeps it ahead of the curve
on every, you know, compared to

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whatever these other guys are
doing. And the knock against

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Skype is simple, you know, it's
not open, nobody knows what's

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going on. It's almost like
mysterious. It is. It's work

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and, and it's not standard, you
know, you can't, you know, you

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could SIP you can have like a
dozen different programmes that

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can all interact with each other
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So there's, you know, so that
issue is profound. But fact of

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the matter is, it still works
better. And it has critical mass

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and all the rest of it. Now that
said, By the way, there's a new

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new god, there was a couple of
new articles saying that eBay

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wants to dump Skype day.

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Like we didn't know that Han,
didn't we just last week on this

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very programme say that we we
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place.

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Anyway, so when you basically
shot me down on because I wanted

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to do a test with John, on on
Thursday, and, okay, well,

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obviously, don't want me to read
the email, I understand. But it

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was kind of like what you just
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Email always sounds more terse.
That's the reason I don't, you

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know, like to read it. So,

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anyways, I had all this creative
energy left. And I wound up

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doing some other tinkering,
which is just kind of cool to

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mention. You know, I have an
iPod Touch now. Which I have to

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save as a browsing experience.
It's just fantastic. It Nothing

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beats it that I've ever had my
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great experience. All the other
stuff. Yeah. Okay. And I just

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had a standard, I hadn't
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I'm kind of gearing up and
getting ready to do a screen

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video cast. So part screencast
part, show Intel of my entire

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setup, because people actually,
you know, John, people have gone

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out and bought MacBook Pros
waiting for me to tell them how

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to string it all together. So
I'm severely amiss behind on

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this. And let's,

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let's put it together in some
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it on all the websites we run.

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Yeah, well, what I what I
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never going to be any good at
putting together like a Visio

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chart or whatever. But I can
certainly explain all the

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connections and show it in the
screencast. And also hold up

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because there's external devices
as well. I can't, yeah.

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Well, I can assure the listening
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this with high hopes that they
are going to implement what you

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did that they haven't got a
prayer, if that's the way you're

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going to do it?

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No, but if I do that part, then
I can easily write down every

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single piece and document it or
someone else can maybe that's

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my hope. Well, you know, my
stepson wants to do that for

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you. Okay, so why don't

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I make the video and then I'll
send it to him. And then if he

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doesn't get it, then we'll have
to go to the next phase. Yeah.

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Anyway, let me just tell you
what the last cool thing I did.

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So I already have this external
midi controller this thing made

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by it's a German outfit. It's
called fader Fox. And it's a

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little MIDI controller. It has
six sliders on it. And with

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that, I can control the software
which I'm running, which is

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Ableton Live. So if I, if I
lower my mic here on the on the

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slider, then obviously it lowers
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okay, and that's just
controlling, controlled through

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MIDI. But I'd seen somewhere
these guys who would had tricked

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out some software from at some
Asian guy because I looked at

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his website and he has like
kanji stuff on it, I presume we

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some Asian guy. And he's built
something called aka remote. And

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they built some software that
you put onto your Mac that you

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can then tie into MIDI Long
story short, I can now fire

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jingles and songs and also
control the faders right from

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my, from my iPod Touch
wirelessly through the land.

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It's really, really awesome.

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Wow. Yeah. So you're gonna bring
that rig over? Yeah. Coming back

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to the United States again,
right? Yeah,

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I think Monday or Tuesday. I'll
be over.

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Well, then since you're coming
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new test.

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Shit. Wait a minute. You're of
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We're the Customs and Border
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the United States, I'm on the
secondary search match list,

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whatever it is, last time, I
joked and laughed and said I

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should speak. I should speak to
a TL a team leader. Right when I

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got to the first customs guy, so
what would the test for this

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week be for this trip?

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Okay, so this last time you I
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in before you asked for the team
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No member, right? No, no, that's
that. Okay. Right. Right. When

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you get to that passport guy,
that first guy was sitting in

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the blue booth, where you're
lined up with your bag, and he

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grabs your passport. That's the
guy you asked for the team

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leader right there at the

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beginning. That's what I did
last time. Yeah.

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Okay, this time, let's not ask
him. But let's ask the next guy

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down the line. Now, let's record
it this time? Well, I don't

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think they're gonna put up with
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It will not if the end if they
catch me, they won't. But why

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would they know?

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Wow, that's an interesting
point. I mean, what I was

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thinking I guarantee have only
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Here's what I was thinking, you
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the white one that I show you
that? No, these are really cool.

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They're the you buy them at like
at Walmart. You can just buy

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them right off the rack. It's a
little digital camera all it

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does all those things. And it
has a flip up USB connector.

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Right. Right, right. So I could
put that in my breast pocket of

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my jacket. And I'm thinking if I
made a little paint, I made a

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little hole so that the lens
could kind of peek through it

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just to work,

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you're gonna get thrown in the
slammer?

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Well, it's either that or I can
record the audio. That would be

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timely, I

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think safer.

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Yeah, cuz I could probably just
drop an eye River into my breast

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pocket and just hit record, and
it will probably pick up enough

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that it'll be legible. If I'm
wearing wearing mics is not

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going to be a good idea.

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No, no, they don't even want to
use in cell phones when you're

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in that part of the terminal.
But yeah, and I river would do

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it. You know, I mean, you could
use an h four h two or something

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like that. But it's too bulky.
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I have the IFP the 799. The
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and everyone uses Yeah. Okay,
sure. So seven, eight. So you

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haven't said that's going to
work and it has a built in mic

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or you're going to stick a
little Sony on air or something?

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No, it's got a built in mic.
It's pretty good. You can set

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the dynamics. I'll test it. I'll
test it before I go.

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Okay, yeah, that'll work. Okay.
That's almost I don't take the

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Steven remotely hard to do. So
usually it goes through the

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exact same process again. Oh,
this is beat makes it like a

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double blind study. Because
you're doing the exact same

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thing twice to see if it's
actually valid that the way you

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did okay, that's fine.

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I'll ask for the team leader
again. And see if I get you have

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any code words that if you get
to make the one phone call that

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you can say that would indicate
that they're going to kill you

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or something like that. If what
what are you talking? Oh,

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nevermind. I'm sorry. I
shouldn't even brought that up.

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Rose, but I so anyway, and then,
and then my wife's MacBook

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today, which is why we're
recording a little bit later

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than normal. It's 10 minutes to
nine in the evening. What kind

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of a computer was it? It's a 15
inch iMac, one of the first kind

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of like the white ones. Makes it
and it's it's the PowerPC

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version. So it's not it's not an
Intel? It's it's an old dog.

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Yeah, it's before even before
the 17 inch PowerPC iMac came

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out.

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Okay. All right, so it's an old
clunker she's probably over the

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hill How old is that thing?

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So I was just thinking about
that it and as you know, our

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computers are on 24/7 We never
turn them off. So that thing has

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been running for four years.

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And 24/7 So you just burn it up
you don't care about the

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environment or green or anything
then

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the screen the screen goes to
sleep and you know that in the

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drive shut down so it's of
course it's still using energy

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but yeah, I'm a believer and
leave it on and turn off. And so

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and it was it was clearly a
hardware problem. I think

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something with the graphics
card. It's just you know, it's

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melted away. I guess that four
years that seems about

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reasonable for for something
made in China. It's kind

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of like it you know, it's like
you don't want an Datsun or

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something in your car for years.

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Kabu man, I bought my daughter a
Renault Twingo. Am I familiar

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with this car?

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I've seen the pictures of it.
Let me see cute little cars

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yellow card is a cute little
European car that would probably

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be really cute to have in
Europe, or let me

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tell you it's it's a really
comfortable drive. You can't

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it's kind of like sitting in, in
like lawn furniture. And it's

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kind of feels like a But you're
sitting up a little bit high and

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it's because it's so light, you
know, it only has a 1.2 litre

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engine. It's still real zippy,
you know, five speed. And yeah,

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I was like, wow, this is not
bad.

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I can see you driving around one
of those things.

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Well, I had a I had a smart car
in Amsterdam, which I loved. I

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mean, that was frickin perfect.

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I can't imagine you in that
though. Oh, you're too tall. No,

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you can fit into a smart smart
car.

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Yeah, I had the one. I had the
convertible smart car. So your

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head was sticking out? No,
they're they're quite sizable.

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Not a problem at all. That was
nice. Also, very, very decent of

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eight to kind of expensive for
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stuff that they give you.

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The other prime make money on
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Isn't that? Isn't it launched in
the states now? Aren't people

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buying them now? They've heard
that they were I haven't seen

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her name. I think I don't think
they're calling it the Smart

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car. I think they're calling it
something else.

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But a dumb car.

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It's not dumb man.

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In these in the states it is.
Because, you know, in Europe,

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for example, they let you park
those things head first.

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Although the I've never actually
seen anyone park it that way.

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I've seen it in France a couple
of times, especially in Paris.

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Okay. Possible. You see some
gauges, rams are right in the

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head first between two cars. And
that's the sits there and nobody

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cares. Because it's you know,
not just not bothering anybody

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doesn't stick out. But if you
did that here, they'd probably

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throw you in jail. send you to
get Mo.

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I have to say though, you know,
just driving around with this

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thing. And I went down to the
gas station, you know, and she

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doesn't have her licence yet. So
I'm driving it. And I'm really

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sitting there going like, Wow,
just comparing it to, you know,

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to the Jaguar. I'm like, There's
no advantage. In fact, this car

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is kind of cool. Because you can
plug your iPod into the I told

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you about they can plug your
iPod right into the, into the

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stereo system. And right, yeah,
another thing that happened,

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that was just personally
interesting. Our fridge went out

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last Sunday, it just died and
having

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you having electronics failures
in and around the house left and

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right thing.

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Interesting. I wonder what's
next. So it's a special size, so

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it had to be ordered. So it
didn't actually come until

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yesterday. So we were without a
recruit. Well, actually, I had

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a, I have a small drinks cooler
that I have up to here in the

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office, which actually will get
quite cold it will function as a

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perfect refrigerator. But it's
small, you know, it's only meant

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for a couple cans of Coke or
whatever. But it has kind of the

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form of a refrigerator, it has
one or two shelves in it. And it

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was it was kind of intriguing to
see how how little food and how

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little crap we actually needed
in the refrigerator. And we

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didn't go hungry. You know what
I mean? And I and I couldn't

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compare this because we just got
back from grocery shopping. Man.

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We now we have to fill up the
new fridge. It's like this is

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stupid. It's like we're buying
all this stuff. It didn't make

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any difference. I didn't miss
any of it for a whole week.

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You have to re re you have to.
There's something there's a good

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gag in there. But you have to
reevaluate everything you're

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doing. You downsize, that's the
key. Maybe that's a refrigerator

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full of crap. Every once in a
while. I say okay, I'm going to

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clean out the refrigerator, I
take everything out and decide

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and I take the harsh approach,
throw out the stuff that I

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probably never going to use or
it's old. And I you know, clean

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everything and then I put it
back in everything's got nothing

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in it. Exactly. That's my point.
It's just a month bunch of stuff

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that just accumulates and you
use it for storage

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store so it just but it's just
shit we buy that I don't think

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we really need

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no. So I had it. I got a whole I
was shopping the other day and I

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got a hold of it. I don't
remember seeing one of these

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before, but I knew they came out
with him because they've been

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you know, making these these new
builds here in the United

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States. And they first they did
the 100 with a big giant

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Franklin head and they made put
colour on it. And then they did

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a 50 and then they did a 20 and
then he did a tan which is

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really clownish is really crazy.
But then I finally got a hold of

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a five. So the new five is got
big giant link be head Lincoln.

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If you look at the old bills
that were done in the 1910s and

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1920s. Those things are
gorgeous. They're hot. They're

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just beautiful. These things are
look like play money. They're

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just stupid. But anyway, so they
got but the weirdest thing about

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this five, you got to just keep
looking at it. On the backside.

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They have the number five in the
lower right hand corner. huge,

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big giant fives that somebody
doesn't get confused. And it's

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in lavender. It's like lavender.
I'm thinking what Devin who

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chose this colour? Maybe it's
even more of a pink. But it's

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just a horrible like, I don't
know. Well, that's

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a good question. Who does who
doesn't make those decisions?

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It seems that Richard Simmons is
the one

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Okay. Seems like a pretty
important thing.

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I just I just was baffled.

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I've had the new 20s I haven't
even had a new tenant. My hands

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are, honestly,

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to tanzer weirder than the 20s.
And the fives are the weirdest.

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So I'm waiting for the ones that
are those are going to be

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something to see.

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So how does that work? When they
put money into circulation? Do

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they take an equal amount out at
the same time?

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Well, they're always taking
money out of circulation

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constantly. And they have to
feed new money into circulation,

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because the bills are only good
for a few years. And they just

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swap them out and put new
entities take old out and grind

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them up. And we're making the
bedding for the poor. So that's,

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that isn't

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isn't that a great process to
leak a little bit of extra money

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into the economy.

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There's always suspicions that
people do that. But anyway, the

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show so that all they do is
during the natural turnover of

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the money, they just bring in
the new bills, and then they

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hope the other ones don't
disappear eventually, even

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though I still have a 50 with a
little head and without the

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stripe in it, you know, some
some old bill that ended up in a

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drawer somewhere. And you some
of those you have to take to the

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bank to even get rid of them.
Actually in England I was last

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time it was there. I guess it
was a couple of times ago, I had

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gone in before they had done
some deal with the euro. And

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they put that little E on the
bills. That means it's part of

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the European Union. And I walk
into the country with a bunch of

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and I always keep the old money
keep the money from the last

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trip. So I loaded up with all my
British pounds. And none of them

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were any nobody would take them.
And I said what's the deal she's

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on now you got to turn those
into the bank. Those are no

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good. It looks just exactly the
same, right? Except there's a

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little E on the new bills,
because it was the same bill

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same picture the green it was
the same thing. I don't

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understand why they couldn't
just take that let him go out of

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circulation naturally. But
that's not the way they do

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things

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now though. It's the same it was
the same in in the Netherlands.

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And in Belgium, actually. So
Belgium had the franc before the

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Euro came and the Netherlands
had the Gilder and there was an

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absolute cut off date. And then
I think up to two years after

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the day, you could still
exchange your old Dutch guilders

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for euros so I mean, I guess I
do have to just set a date and

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say after this date and no more
now we're cutting over to

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whatever it is but when it Yeah,
it was an EU thing man. It was

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total European Union bullshit.

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So anyway, so I have all these
bills that you know have to turn

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in and I got a bunch of old
French francs I found the other

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day and I totally missed those.
Absolutely. Got it pretty

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though.

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I found them always to be a
little bit coppery, you know, I

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mean, like I'm almost green.

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The French francs Yeah, don't

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think no noms not the bills. I'm
talking about the money the

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actual colour.

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No, the coins? Yeah, yeah, the
coins are kind of funky. But the

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bills I thought were always very
attractive if the bills are

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small. Now they're all different
sizes. They get the small one.

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It's like the dominant
denomination the bill and the

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sin the Franks. Did they get
bigger? I think I know there's a

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small bill and is bigger. I know
there's some countries. I think

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from I thought France was one of
them, but their son in fact the

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England has a little bill or
they used to have

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the five pound notice. You're
right. It's all different sizes

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five pound a shrunken Yeah.
Speaking of money, do you see

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our prime minister in the United
States hanging out with

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everybody?

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No, I didn't know he came to
your kids. I'm not kidding,

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because every bola news is about
the Pope. Everything's Pope

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Pope. Pope Pope Pope.

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Yeah, well, but they're so after
the pope buoyed out of DC. In

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came Gordon Brown and he met
with Bush and he met with McCain

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and with Clinton and with Obama.

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Here let me look at this. I'm
just bringing up Google News.

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Top Stories swept up in Pope
fever a busy day as first vote

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in six weeks draws near North
Korea Trade top Bush talks with

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North Korean leader those are
the three stories are running.

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And then on the right the little
ones there's nothing about this.

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Nothing zip nothing about Gordon
Brown. Now let me look in a

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world Zimbabwe. Human Rights
Iraqi. Nope.

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Maybe it didn't maybe didn't
happen. Maybe they just made it

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up like like the people on the
moon video.

441
00:24:17,910 --> 00:24:21,630
Could be Gordon Brown don't
actually go here. Here big news.

442
00:24:21,630 --> 00:24:25,620
Sandra Bullock and husband hit
by drunk driver. Oh, she okay.

443
00:24:26,130 --> 00:24:28,740
Yeah, then nothing really
happens. Not even news it seems.

444
00:24:29,220 --> 00:24:33,090
No does nothing here should that
Chinese urge anti West boycott

445
00:24:33,090 --> 00:24:33,840
over Tibet

446
00:24:33,839 --> 00:24:37,109
stance? No, it was kind of we
know was kind of crowd is

447
00:24:37,110 --> 00:24:38,760
not anywhere on this page.

448
00:24:38,910 --> 00:24:42,360
Crazy 10 Downing Street, which
of course is the British White

449
00:24:42,360 --> 00:24:45,990
House. They have a Twitter
account, and they were

450
00:24:45,990 --> 00:24:48,540
twittering the whole time. It'd
be like, you know, the Pm is now

451
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,770
being announced by Senator
Kennedy and he's going to do his

452
00:24:52,770 --> 00:24:55,290
speech and then you know, it was
like we're having doughnuts and

453
00:24:55,290 --> 00:24:59,160
now we're off to you know, you
know, just whatever the next

454
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,560
appointment is, it was Pretty
cool to follow along. It was,

455
00:25:01,739 --> 00:25:03,719
Oh, that is cool. I would if I
had known that I would have

456
00:25:03,719 --> 00:25:05,579
subscribed, you know, I'm a
Twitter user now.

457
00:25:05,609 --> 00:25:12,569
So last week I did one tweet. I
knew you'd already signed up.

458
00:25:12,569 --> 00:25:15,839
Yeah. And in fact, you had,
like, 150 people when I looked,

459
00:25:16,349 --> 00:25:19,019
and it was after we had was it
after we had dinner. Was it

460
00:25:19,019 --> 00:25:20,309
after we did the last show?

461
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,670
No, it was actually before we
had dinner because you told me

462
00:25:23,670 --> 00:25:25,500
that. I think it told me then.

463
00:25:25,890 --> 00:25:28,890
Oh, that's right. It was Yeah.
Anyway, so I did. I didn't want

464
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,230
to tweet like in the middle of
the night, you know, kind of

465
00:25:31,230 --> 00:25:35,250
referring anyone at sign the
real Dvorak and and then I could

466
00:25:35,250 --> 00:25:37,080
just see the number just going
boom, boom, boom, boom, boom,

467
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:38,940
boom, and it ticked up. And what
do you want? Now you like at

468
00:25:38,940 --> 00:25:41,010
5000 followers or something? At
least

469
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:45,030
I'm at about 57 hit, you're
heading towards 5800.

470
00:25:45,030 --> 00:25:47,130
Fantastic. But yeah, the

471
00:25:47,130 --> 00:25:50,550
big jump took Leo, give it a
shot. Give me a plug. It just

472
00:25:50,550 --> 00:25:53,520
jumped 2000 instantly. Yeah,
that'll do it. That'll do it. So

473
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:57,000
I need to get a plug from you a
plug from Calacanis, who

474
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,220
promised but he's never He
doesn't even answer his email.

475
00:25:59,220 --> 00:26:03,540
He's worse than Leo, you say.
And then VERONICA BELMONT big.

476
00:26:03,540 --> 00:26:05,850
But she's got like 20,000 or
something like that. So I could

477
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:10,080
score a few extras. I want to
try to get to, I didn't, my goal

478
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,270
was actually to get to three or
4000. But now that I'm over

479
00:26:12,270 --> 00:26:15,420
five, I figured, well, maybe my
goal and shut too low. I should

480
00:26:15,420 --> 00:26:16,320
be shooting for 10. Do

481
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,350
you see what you need to do? So
here's the trick to Twitter, you

482
00:26:19,350 --> 00:26:22,230
have to get the of the right
people following you. So having

483
00:26:22,530 --> 00:26:26,910
a Calacanis follow you, but
also, if you if you I mean, I

484
00:26:26,910 --> 00:26:29,850
use it for notification to get
the word out, I want you to look

485
00:26:29,850 --> 00:26:33,720
at something you know, that's
usually what I'm doing. So if

486
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,900
you can write and this is where
the creative writing part comes

487
00:26:36,900 --> 00:26:39,810
into play, if you can write
something that will catch

488
00:26:40,020 --> 00:26:43,920
someone's eye like Calacanis,
then Hill's Twitter about it.

489
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:48,540
Right? So you automatically get
his 15,000 or whatever, you get

490
00:26:48,540 --> 00:26:52,710
those in as well. For your for
your message. And it'll probably

491
00:26:52,710 --> 00:26:55,860
be to appropriate people. So
it's kind of like the gaming for

492
00:26:55,860 --> 00:26:58,500
me is not in how many people are
following me, but I want to have

493
00:26:58,500 --> 00:27:01,350
the right people following me,
because I know that they'll

494
00:27:01,380 --> 00:27:04,560
replicate they'll, they'll
become a repeater for me.

495
00:27:06,540 --> 00:27:08,610
Ya know, I can understand that.
And I think that thing is

496
00:27:08,610 --> 00:27:11,280
actually quite interesting. I
mean, I was always sceptical by

497
00:27:11,310 --> 00:27:13,770
my scepticism periods, by the
way, and I mentioned this on

498
00:27:13,770 --> 00:27:18,090
cranky geeks, I've shrunk it,
instead of, instead of you

499
00:27:18,090 --> 00:27:20,910
milking it, like I used to where
I could do that with the blogs.

500
00:27:20,910 --> 00:27:23,280
I mean, I could write negative
stuff and get my numbers wet,

501
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,890
because everybody kept coming in
and, you know, to condemn me.

502
00:27:26,460 --> 00:27:28,740
But now I've decided that
there's not enough hours in the

503
00:27:28,740 --> 00:27:31,470
day and I got other things to
talk about that I don't want to

504
00:27:31,470 --> 00:27:35,010
like milk, these negative
approaches, which are actually

505
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:40,560
exploratory. I mean, I use a lot
of my negative commentary to

506
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,020
explore issues and get to, you
know, all the different

507
00:27:43,020 --> 00:27:46,470
perspectives. Because if you
really slam something, from an

508
00:27:46,470 --> 00:27:50,550
honest perspective, I'm not
being a phoney about it. I mean,

509
00:27:50,550 --> 00:27:53,010
I really feel I have these
concerns. And so I used to

510
00:27:53,010 --> 00:27:56,970
express them in probably in a
probably a vitriolic way that

511
00:27:56,970 --> 00:28:00,870
would detract attention. And so
people come in and say, No,

512
00:28:00,870 --> 00:28:03,870
you're wrong. And here's why. I
mean, I get I get that and I

513
00:28:03,870 --> 00:28:06,480
also get you suck, but did you
suck stuff doesn't do me any

514
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,520
good. But people, there's a lot
of people out there that will

515
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:13,530
try to explain to you where
you're wrong. And actually, I

516
00:28:13,530 --> 00:28:14,520
learned a lot from that.

517
00:28:15,809 --> 00:28:20,279
So do you feel that this time is
short now by weeks?

518
00:28:22,230 --> 00:28:23,940
Well, I can almost say by years,
but

519
00:28:26,339 --> 00:28:29,879
thank you for pointing that out?
No, I think mankind thanks you

520
00:28:29,879 --> 00:28:33,839
in general that you've shortened
this, John. It was about time.

521
00:28:34,350 --> 00:28:37,020
Well, I'm trying to think of
when I first ran into Twitter,

522
00:28:37,050 --> 00:28:40,560
which was I think pretty much on
the Twitter show Leo sting

523
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:44,670
because we years ago. It was it
was that long, I don't think has

524
00:28:44,670 --> 00:28:45,990
been it. I think it's been
around for about a year and a

525
00:28:45,990 --> 00:28:50,820
half. Okay. So I think I'm so I
normally would have probably

526
00:28:50,820 --> 00:28:53,880
kept complaining for another
year, half a year, maybe in

527
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,910
another six months to nine
months. I probably should have

528
00:28:58,170 --> 00:29:02,250
brought it home six months
earlier, but you know, I'm still

529
00:29:03,060 --> 00:29:05,940
I don't you don't jump on
everything. Just raise but in

530
00:29:05,940 --> 00:29:10,950
this case, you actually believed
there was worthless. I did.

531
00:29:10,980 --> 00:29:14,670
Yeah. I did. But I realise now
that Calacanis actually is the

532
00:29:14,670 --> 00:29:16,710
one on one of the shows that
kind of talked me out of that

533
00:29:16,860 --> 00:29:20,160
way of thinking. I also when I
was in South Carolina recently

534
00:29:20,190 --> 00:29:23,580
talking to a bunch of real
estate people who had a tech guy

535
00:29:23,580 --> 00:29:29,370
there, he had this really long
explanation for me why he uses

536
00:29:29,370 --> 00:29:33,180
it and why I should use it and
what good it is. And he uses it

537
00:29:33,180 --> 00:29:37,320
for like, you know, he uses a
kind of as a little way to

538
00:29:37,350 --> 00:29:39,270
because everyone has it hooked
to it through their phones. He

539
00:29:39,270 --> 00:29:44,340
has it. He has a team of people
that work for him around him or

540
00:29:44,340 --> 00:29:47,280
in the same company. And when he
needs to send out a message to

541
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,790
all of them. He says through
Twitter. Yeah, he just Twitter's

542
00:29:50,790 --> 00:29:53,880
in his best broadcast message.
And then more recently, that kid

543
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,480
in Egypt who got arrested, he
managed to Twitter that he was

544
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,840
getting arrested just before
they handcuffed him. I guess and

545
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,080
brought the attention to himself
to the Twitter, his little

546
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,920
twittering group and they got
him out of jail. Yeah. I thought

547
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:09,000
that was pretty interesting.

548
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,180
What you got to do now is now
you got to get into all the the

549
00:30:12,180 --> 00:30:14,730
ancillary stuff like Twitter
mail. Do you have that Twitter

550
00:30:14,730 --> 00:30:20,340
mail? No. So Twitter mail.com.
You give it your Twitter

551
00:30:20,370 --> 00:30:23,880
details. And then whenever
there's new messages that are

552
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,010
directed at you, you get an
email with a nice little

553
00:30:26,010 --> 00:30:26,670
summary.

554
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:35,040
I'm getting mail already. via
Twitter. Oh, really? Yeah.

555
00:30:36,570 --> 00:30:39,780
There's a there's a private
messaging system within Twitter.

556
00:30:40,230 --> 00:30:43,140
That not the one where you go
at, you know, Adam in a hurry,

557
00:30:43,140 --> 00:30:46,410
but the one where you go to you
go to a, you go to a look up

558
00:30:46,410 --> 00:30:49,020
maybe a little mailing thing,
and you got a few you send these

559
00:30:49,020 --> 00:30:54,480
little short mail memos. And
they get emailed to you too. I

560
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,420
don't have that. What are you
using? I'm just using the

561
00:30:57,420 --> 00:31:00,870
website. Oh, really? Yeah,
people were complaining to me

562
00:31:00,870 --> 00:31:04,290
about that, too. already. I is
using the website. There's too

563
00:31:04,290 --> 00:31:06,420
many good tools out there. Why
are you using the website? The

564
00:31:06,420 --> 00:31:07,500
website stinks.

565
00:31:08,460 --> 00:31:10,860
I think the tools are good, man.
That's true.

566
00:31:11,970 --> 00:31:14,250
Yeah, well, I mean, I was so
many hours in the day. I'm you

567
00:31:14,250 --> 00:31:18,120
know, I've got I mean, I post
I'll try to get to these tools.

568
00:31:18,419 --> 00:31:20,999
Now. But I'm telling you, I'm
giving you some ideas here. So

569
00:31:20,999 --> 00:31:21,839
if you give

570
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:23,790
me Twitter mail, but what's the
other five?

571
00:31:24,780 --> 00:31:33,540
Okay, then you have what the
hell is not conversely? Perhaps

572
00:31:33,540 --> 00:31:35,520
the one where you can see
everything in threaded form?

573
00:31:35,550 --> 00:31:38,190
Ah, shit. Alright. Yeah. If
somebody's told me about that

574
00:31:38,190 --> 00:31:41,130
already, and I just can't
remember the name of it. I don't

575
00:31:41,130 --> 00:31:42,600
know that. I want that. But
okay.

576
00:31:42,629 --> 00:31:46,259
No, it's kind of cool. Because
you may be replying to someone.

577
00:31:46,409 --> 00:31:49,259
That's a part of some some other
thread. It's interesting.

578
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,020
Okay. Yeah, yeah, it could be
valuable.

579
00:31:52,140 --> 00:31:54,810
But anyway, so now they're gonna
start to suck because I

580
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:59,160
understand they're gonna start
putting ads into the feeds. That

581
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:00,390
tell me bad that may sorry.

582
00:32:01,140 --> 00:32:04,200
So, anyway, so that I know, I
enjoy it, I think it's good.

583
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,210
It's a good way to just like it
is microblogging. There's some

584
00:32:06,210 --> 00:32:08,280
times you can draw attention to
the blog if you have something

585
00:32:08,370 --> 00:32:12,450
specifically good or I you know,
have asked for certain things,

586
00:32:12,450 --> 00:32:14,640
some help on some things and
people are more than happy to

587
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:18,390
have it's a very, you know, kind
of utopian, volunteer oriented

588
00:32:18,390 --> 00:32:22,020
group of well wishers type you
know, it's not a lot a lot of

589
00:32:22,020 --> 00:32:25,500
negative stuff that goes on
there. I may get the one you

590
00:32:25,500 --> 00:32:27,690
know, you suck. You know, it
comes through, but it's very

591
00:32:27,690 --> 00:32:28,050
recent,

592
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,270
but you can ask those people
have you blocked him yet? That's

593
00:32:30,300 --> 00:32:31,350
that's really I don't

594
00:32:31,350 --> 00:32:37,260
mind it at all. Who cares? So
anyway, the so I like it. I

595
00:32:37,260 --> 00:32:39,660
think it's a really cool thing.
But now add on now on the other

596
00:32:39,660 --> 00:32:43,710
side, I promised that I'm not
going to talk about it that

597
00:32:43,710 --> 00:32:46,800
much. Because it's boring. Yeah.
So we're stopping that

598
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:53,370
conversation immediately. I was
just asking. Anyway, but, but

599
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,770
before we stop it, it's the real
divorce because

600
00:32:59,430 --> 00:33:00,330
you're horrible

601
00:33:03,660 --> 00:33:06,840
you know, what's, what's the
point? So probably pick up

602
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:11,640
another 50 people. So and the
thing is, you know, people say,

603
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,740
Well, you know, we got to do a
big argument. We're gonna cranky

604
00:33:13,740 --> 00:33:17,190
geeks with Sebastian Ripley and
he's just an ego stroking says

605
00:33:17,190 --> 00:33:19,980
no, it's not you you have this
little group cadre of people and

606
00:33:19,980 --> 00:33:23,010
it's not for your ego it's for
you know, it's for efficiency

607
00:33:23,010 --> 00:33:26,640
and so really all it is I mean,
I don't need my ego stroked I

608
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,010
just want the point is I got
plenty of things they can do

609
00:33:29,010 --> 00:33:31,200
that and besides that I have a
bunch of kids that told me I'm

610
00:33:31,650 --> 00:33:35,640
I'm crummy so you know they got
a bad dad because I didn't buy

611
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,710
something so I mean, you know
you get dumb not worried about

612
00:33:37,710 --> 00:33:37,770
it.

613
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,140
Wait a minute. What am I hearing
now? You were bad dad because

614
00:33:40,140 --> 00:33:41,700
you didn't buy the latest Xbox

615
00:33:43,109 --> 00:33:45,779
they have actually they don't
have the latest that there's

616
00:33:45,779 --> 00:33:49,499
that one What was that fancy one
they came out with I know

617
00:33:49,499 --> 00:33:53,219
nothing about gaming console
right some new X some new fancy

618
00:33:53,219 --> 00:33:56,519
X box out and I've been trying
to get it and I have them and

619
00:33:56,579 --> 00:34:00,749
you know and it's like picking
up grief I make a buy one but

620
00:34:00,749 --> 00:34:02,639
it's like you know I don't think

621
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,520
it's stupid. I mean why buy one
when you can review one?

622
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:12,450
Well I'd like to see it I didn't
know I was visiting you know

623
00:34:12,450 --> 00:34:15,840
talking about you know, you get
a lot of comps and review units

624
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:20,400
and evals depending when you're
doing when you're writing and

625
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:24,780
trade magazines are doing this
kind of stuff. Yeah, and you

626
00:34:24,780 --> 00:34:27,000
know, I always thought that I
could I could get I can't get

627
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,150
everything I can get a lot of
stuff to look at or and people

628
00:34:30,150 --> 00:34:32,670
are offering stuff all the time
I refuse for the public out

629
00:34:32,670 --> 00:34:36,180
there to once a no I refuse to
see most of the stuff I could

630
00:34:36,180 --> 00:34:40,440
actually get because it's just
piles up and as I feel bad about

631
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,650
it you know if I'm gonna look
get some I want to actually put

632
00:34:43,650 --> 00:34:44,340
it into use

633
00:34:45,390 --> 00:34:49,440
you had a pretty good appearance
on now a new Kobudo show.

634
00:34:50,069 --> 00:34:50,939
Oh, you see it?

635
00:34:51,060 --> 00:34:56,280
Yeah, I can't I somewhere maybe
I saw it on your blog. I can't

636
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,160
remember where. But yeah, it
looks alright. It was it was

637
00:34:59,160 --> 00:34:59,970
pretty decent.

638
00:35:00,269 --> 00:35:02,069
Yeah, I get I gotta get my hair
cut.

639
00:35:02,429 --> 00:35:04,799
She wants to deal with it you
have a bet with someone or is

640
00:35:04,799 --> 00:35:05,669
that just a joke?

641
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:10,140
Just a joke. Then you need a
haircut or my hair guys cut my

642
00:35:10,140 --> 00:35:12,450
hair the last time he says I'm
going to cut it so it can grow

643
00:35:12,450 --> 00:35:16,860
out grow long. See what happens.
So I said okay, and so I've been

644
00:35:16,860 --> 00:35:19,110
growing along and it go went
through one phase where it's it

645
00:35:19,110 --> 00:35:21,990
was just looking crummy, but
then it got really longer like

646
00:35:21,990 --> 00:35:24,570
it's pretty long now for me
because at some point when I was

647
00:35:24,930 --> 00:35:28,110
younger, I used to I had my hair
grow out real long, but the

648
00:35:28,110 --> 00:35:30,990
problem is that I have very thin
hair and again, it gets split

649
00:35:30,990 --> 00:35:35,430
ends. So when you have thin kind
of hair, then it gets really

650
00:35:35,430 --> 00:35:38,640
long and it gets split into the
hair. When it touches your skin.

651
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,550
It makes it itch, because it's
just like little

652
00:35:42,180 --> 00:35:45,090
it's too thin. What do you maybe
you need to change your shampoo?

653
00:35:47,250 --> 00:35:49,350
Yeah, my hair is still too thin.
What

654
00:35:49,350 --> 00:35:50,520
shampoo do you use? What

655
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,850
do you use? I'm using different
shampoos. I can get the bulkier

656
00:35:53,850 --> 00:35:56,910
shampoos as anyway, the point
is, is that I can only put up

657
00:35:56,910 --> 00:36:00,630
with my hair being so long
before it gets on my nerves. And

658
00:36:01,470 --> 00:36:03,540
I think it's getting pretty
close. You know, I only have

659
00:36:03,540 --> 00:36:06,390
like two big quaffed hair people
don't know you've ever seen you

660
00:36:06,390 --> 00:36:09,720
in person don't realise that and
then the picture that we're

661
00:36:09,720 --> 00:36:12,450
running on the cage match of you
are like from when you're in

662
00:36:12,450 --> 00:36:12,840
high school.

663
00:36:13,470 --> 00:36:15,750
That's a horrible picture. I
like to

664
00:36:17,130 --> 00:36:19,230
picture maybe bubble change it
but by

665
00:36:19,230 --> 00:36:21,930
the way, Bubba does the most
excellent shownotes make sure

666
00:36:21,930 --> 00:36:23,970
you catch him on the cage match.

667
00:36:25,230 --> 00:36:30,180
Two board.org/cage Match anyway.
But if anyone's ever seen you in

668
00:36:30,180 --> 00:36:36,390
person you have you look like
kind of a you got this huge when

669
00:36:36,390 --> 00:36:39,600
it's done right? You have this
huge head of hair and on you're

670
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:43,710
already when it's done right.
When it's done right. You're

671
00:36:43,710 --> 00:36:45,270
already enormous head.

672
00:36:46,050 --> 00:36:48,990
My head is quite small. Thank
you. I have a rather high

673
00:36:48,990 --> 00:36:49,800
forehead,

674
00:36:50,430 --> 00:36:55,980
whatever. So you got this huge
head of hair. And and it's like

675
00:36:56,010 --> 00:36:58,470
you know when somebody sees it
coming down the street I've seen

676
00:36:58,470 --> 00:37:03,510
it people actually jump they
jump out if I don't know that

677
00:37:03,510 --> 00:37:07,770
it's something I've never seen
before they recognise I don't

678
00:37:07,770 --> 00:37:10,080
know what it is. All job.

679
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:18,390
You're full of shit. Yeah,
thanks. You know what? In your

680
00:37:18,390 --> 00:37:20,550
case, it's a little different.
But in most cases, people who

681
00:37:20,550 --> 00:37:23,160
make fun of my hair usually
don't have any.

682
00:37:25,380 --> 00:37:27,420
Yeah, well that. Yeah, I know.
It's always good to have a

683
00:37:27,420 --> 00:37:29,100
little hair left. I'm I'm not
very

684
00:37:29,519 --> 00:37:31,709
well known, but you should be
you should thank your lucky

685
00:37:31,709 --> 00:37:35,519
stars, man. I mean, how many
guys your age? And I emphasise

686
00:37:35,519 --> 00:37:40,619
that our bar? Yeah, I mean,
fine. That's what Patricia

687
00:37:40,619 --> 00:37:43,169
always says. I'll call her up. I
can't do my fucking hair.

688
00:37:43,199 --> 00:37:46,619
Because this is the problem is
like she made me grow my hair

689
00:37:46,619 --> 00:37:50,159
long. You know the penis picture
penis had picture. That's me.

690
00:37:50,159 --> 00:37:53,399
I'm like, easy, right? This
thing up in the morning. Get up,

691
00:37:53,399 --> 00:37:56,519
take a shower, get your hair
wet. You can't do that with long

692
00:37:56,519 --> 00:38:00,329
hair. So to get all these like
frickin rituals and shit. Like,

693
00:38:00,359 --> 00:38:03,449
you know, not wash it every day.
And then you know, I have to

694
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:07,709
every morning I have to use a
hairdryer and a bra. It's just

695
00:38:07,709 --> 00:38:11,189
it's a pain in the ass. He's
He's taught me he's conned me

696
00:38:11,189 --> 00:38:12,929
into this. And

697
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,800
now it's now it's unfortunate.
It's your trademark. Well, I'm

698
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,410
Adam Curry's trademark is this
hair. Yeah, well, it's

699
00:38:19,410 --> 00:38:21,360
always been my trademark. Yeah,
no, but

700
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:25,200
this it really well. And blonder
than I remember when you were

701
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:25,710
younger.

702
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:32,790
Yeah, with ages I mean it's not
coloured or anything. So yeah,

703
00:38:32,820 --> 00:38:38,970
no, I have grey hair on my on my
temples. But no, no, it's not

704
00:38:39,690 --> 00:38:44,220
not coloured or bleached or
anything No not at all. But

705
00:38:44,220 --> 00:38:47,520
anyway, I can never do it right
when she does my hair it's great

706
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:51,330
and then I can walk you know I
can walk around for a full 24

707
00:38:51,330 --> 00:38:58,110
hours you know wear headsets
well whatever and the hair is

708
00:38:58,110 --> 00:39:02,010
just it it's in it's permanently
fixed it's perfect but when I do

709
00:39:02,010 --> 00:39:06,060
it is like this you know it gets
destroyed does anyone give a

710
00:39:06,060 --> 00:39:07,470
shit? It's like

711
00:39:07,950 --> 00:39:10,380
you're not I was just brought it
up because I thought people

712
00:39:10,380 --> 00:39:12,780
would be interested in if they
ever saw you that maybe they

713
00:39:12,780 --> 00:39:16,140
wouldn't you know have that that
jump thing that everyone else

714
00:39:17,010 --> 00:39:20,460
was here jump because you know
I'm six foot four that you know

715
00:39:20,490 --> 00:39:25,050
most people to most people I'm a
giant you know this or they see

716
00:39:25,050 --> 00:39:28,140
this dashing handsome young man
could be

717
00:39:28,140 --> 00:39:30,210
it maybe that's why they're
jumping you know maybe it's you

718
00:39:30,210 --> 00:39:33,210
know, they're having some sort
of a surge. I think

719
00:39:33,210 --> 00:39:35,550
people jump when they see you
too if you want to you know

720
00:39:35,550 --> 00:39:38,520
really get into it. Because you
know you're not like a small

721
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,130
guy. You're there's a big man
with this wavy kind of white

722
00:39:41,130 --> 00:39:44,250
hair and, and you're always you
kind of walk with

723
00:39:44,250 --> 00:39:49,410
Oh, my hair is not white. Yeah,
it is. Not it's not what do you

724
00:39:49,410 --> 00:39:51,210
call it was white. It would be
white.

725
00:39:51,810 --> 00:39:55,920
It's it is white. It's like once
you call it blonde.

726
00:39:56,550 --> 00:40:00,960
Yeah, we call it blonde, blonde
and white and it's white. Like

727
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,590
old guy white, you know? Really
old good old guy White is

728
00:40:04,590 --> 00:40:07,710
usually a salt and pepper look
that no not dashing old

729
00:40:07,710 --> 00:40:13,920
guy. I mean, like old old guy.
Hey man, again, let's just let's

730
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,590
just take a moment and praise
the hair gods that we still have

731
00:40:16,590 --> 00:40:16,980
hair.

732
00:40:17,939 --> 00:40:22,199
Yeah, most of my friends don't
have any hair. Exactly. You

733
00:40:22,199 --> 00:40:23,819
know, they all bitched about it,
of course

734
00:40:23,820 --> 00:40:27,000
they do. So we need to shut up
and just be really happy.

735
00:40:29,250 --> 00:40:31,890
And you know, what you're not
supposed to do is when you see

736
00:40:31,890 --> 00:40:33,660
haven't seen one of your old
buddies for a long time, you

737
00:40:33,660 --> 00:40:36,480
don't go up to him and the first
thing you say is cripes, you're

738
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:37,290
getting bald.

739
00:40:38,820 --> 00:40:41,280
No, that's not a great
conversation starter after a

740
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:47,130
couple of years. So I have had
that though, man. You know, you

741
00:40:47,130 --> 00:40:49,980
see someone after like maybe
even four or five years and

742
00:40:49,980 --> 00:40:53,520
they've grown so drastically old
in just that short amount of

743
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,790
time that you're bald and bald
and your mouth just like his

744
00:40:56,790 --> 00:41:00,030
fucking drops open and you know
that they've realised it that

745
00:41:00,030 --> 00:41:03,390
they can see it in your eyes.
Have you had that happen? It's

746
00:41:04,020 --> 00:41:06,780
it's the most horrible feeling
you like, you want to say you

747
00:41:06,780 --> 00:41:10,470
look great, but you're like, you
look like fucking shit. Dude,

748
00:41:10,470 --> 00:41:15,930
you look horrible what happened?
I literally that was like two or

749
00:41:15,930 --> 00:41:18,060
three years ago I had that
happen. I met up with a buddy in

750
00:41:18,060 --> 00:41:22,230
New York who I hadn't seen for
like five years. And it just

751
00:41:22,230 --> 00:41:25,320
freaked me out. You've never had
that come on. You must see that

752
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:26,040
have that happen?

753
00:41:26,250 --> 00:41:35,100
I think more people do that when
they see me so exactly. Okay, so

754
00:41:35,100 --> 00:41:37,470
what else do we have anything to
talk about this weekend? I took

755
00:41:37,470 --> 00:41:39,480
no notes so I don't have any of
these and I got

756
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:46,680
I got a couple of things I wrote
a life you I found out and maybe

757
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:51,210
this is common knowledge but you
know this surge they did in Iraq

758
00:41:51,210 --> 00:41:56,310
where I guess we put in 30,000
extra troops and that was the so

759
00:41:56,310 --> 00:42:00,870
called surge and then they're
going to pull that back What

760
00:42:00,870 --> 00:42:06,270
about it I'm reading that that
it was 30,000 US servicemen but

761
00:42:06,270 --> 00:42:13,530
that they that we hired like
70,000 militias and I'm looking

762
00:42:13,530 --> 00:42:16,650
oh and I'm looking like at the
footage and I'm seeing you know

763
00:42:16,650 --> 00:42:21,000
like you know the Iraqi army
right and it's they even have

764
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,810
different uniforms they've got
like the almost like the US

765
00:42:24,810 --> 00:42:28,890
style camo camouflage you know
kind of like grey and grey and

766
00:42:28,890 --> 00:42:33,480
black instead of the kind of the
oil drab Iraqi Army stuff and

767
00:42:33,750 --> 00:42:36,660
and they just dislike like a
whole totally different kind of

768
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,710
kind of dudes and I'm hearing
all kinds of reports about you

769
00:42:40,710 --> 00:42:43,440
know how good or not good this
is Have you heard anything about

770
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:43,860
this?

771
00:42:44,100 --> 00:42:46,560
Now you know that comes and goes
in and out of the news but did

772
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,020
probably you know we have been
using a lot of mercenaries and

773
00:42:49,020 --> 00:42:51,780
those are the guys who take no
prisoners as it were

774
00:42:51,810 --> 00:42:53,940
that's a lot What do you think a
lot is

775
00:42:56,490 --> 00:42:59,640
but how much do you mean a lot
of people are a lot of times

776
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:00,510
I've heard about this

777
00:43:00,570 --> 00:43:04,350
know a lot of people so if we
hire a lot You mean do you say

778
00:43:04,350 --> 00:43:07,920
we do that as a country in
general a lot or are we have a

779
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:08,190
lot

780
00:43:08,190 --> 00:43:11,220
I think it's been our policy for
I think it's been recently as of

781
00:43:11,220 --> 00:43:15,750
late. Our new Demi's writing the
Roman Empire did something

782
00:43:15,750 --> 00:43:21,420
similar you know it's where do
we take our cues from to have

783
00:43:21,420 --> 00:43:25,320
these mercenaries do the dirty
work they get paid really well

784
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,480
which it you know in the
meanwhile ours own soldiers get

785
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:32,460
screwed and are and have to go
by the military code. These

786
00:43:32,460 --> 00:43:36,150
other guys don't? And I don't
know the whole thing is sketchy.

787
00:43:36,930 --> 00:43:39,090
And I you know, said there's
there'll be a good book about it

788
00:43:39,090 --> 00:43:41,730
eventually. I do want to mention
something

789
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:47,190
that is so cold dude. The whole
Iraq War. There'll be a good

790
00:43:47,190 --> 00:43:50,100
book about it eventually,
someday. It'll make for a while

791
00:43:50,100 --> 00:43:52,860
reading crap. I'm sorry. What

792
00:43:52,860 --> 00:43:57,090
can you do? I mean, you can't do
anything. So but dynamite the

793
00:43:57,090 --> 00:43:59,220
camouflage, you know, realise
that they've come up with these

794
00:43:59,220 --> 00:44:02,070
computerised camouflage outfits,
right? You know about this? Oh,

795
00:44:02,070 --> 00:44:05,790
no. Oh, yeah. Well, they have
these and you see him once

796
00:44:05,790 --> 00:44:07,890
around the centre in the Bay
Area, some soldiers would be

797
00:44:07,890 --> 00:44:11,100
around to be wearing them that
they don't do any good in a Bay

798
00:44:11,100 --> 00:44:14,490
Area, but they they've developed
these new computerised models

799
00:44:14,490 --> 00:44:17,910
and they and they custom make
these camouflage outfits and

800
00:44:17,910 --> 00:44:23,730
makes you literally disappear
into a background. And somebody

801
00:44:23,730 --> 00:44:26,820
was telling me about the one
that looks like it's just a

802
00:44:26,820 --> 00:44:28,950
really weird pattern. I've seen
it a couple of times on some

803
00:44:28,950 --> 00:44:32,070
people, and it is really cool
look, and it's mostly like looks

804
00:44:32,070 --> 00:44:35,190
pixelated, it's little dot you
know, squares and stuff all over

805
00:44:35,190 --> 00:44:38,880
the outfit. And there's one that
makes you look like you can't

806
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:42,840
see a person if they're walking
in the desert. Now, that was a

807
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:46,860
little sceptical about this, but
I was watching tennis my stepson

808
00:44:46,860 --> 00:44:49,860
Eric that was telling me about
this initially, and then I think

809
00:44:49,860 --> 00:44:53,340
I was watching something with
him on on. It was it was like

810
00:44:53,340 --> 00:44:57,240
some interview somebody doing in
Baghdad or out by in some

811
00:44:57,240 --> 00:45:00,000
places, but there was a desert
behind them. And he pointed out

812
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,450
To me that in the background,
you could see people walking.

813
00:45:03,870 --> 00:45:07,740
And all you saw were their
heads. I swear to God, you could

814
00:45:07,740 --> 00:45:09,030
see nothing now. So

815
00:45:09,030 --> 00:45:12,180
when you say computerised, it's
not actually changing based on

816
00:45:12,180 --> 00:45:14,820
its surroundings. It's just a
computer is designed this this

817
00:45:14,820 --> 00:45:15,840
particular pattern.

818
00:45:16,289 --> 00:45:19,829
Yeah, but computers design the
pattern cool. And I swear to

819
00:45:19,829 --> 00:45:22,319
God, you see, you'd look back
there because it was renewal

820
00:45:22,319 --> 00:45:24,089
just it was way in the back. But
you all you saw with these

821
00:45:24,089 --> 00:45:28,439
little black hat little these
little black dots that would

822
00:45:28,439 --> 00:45:31,379
last your heads, but you clearly
they were heads, and you'd see

823
00:45:31,379 --> 00:45:33,539
them moving around, but they
were not hooked to anything.

824
00:45:33,570 --> 00:45:35,670
I must have said you realise it
must have something to do with

825
00:45:35,670 --> 00:45:38,310
the way your eye you know, with
the way the brain parses the

826
00:45:38,310 --> 00:45:39,450
information or something.

827
00:45:39,930 --> 00:45:42,690
Yeah, no, I think so. But it's
really a remarkable new

828
00:45:42,690 --> 00:45:47,700
technology. And it it hasn't
really gotten a lot of play, but

829
00:45:47,700 --> 00:45:50,850
I think it would have some other
kinds of uses. I mean, like

830
00:45:50,850 --> 00:45:54,270
hunters and maybes. If you want
to walk down to the, you know,

831
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,300
some street in San Francisco,
and you don't want to be seen.

832
00:45:57,780 --> 00:45:59,970
How about when I'm hanging out
in the park at night, and I

833
00:45:59,970 --> 00:46:00,990
don't want to be seen.

834
00:46:01,290 --> 00:46:03,060
Yeah, it probably probably
worked great.

835
00:46:03,090 --> 00:46:05,160
I only wanted to see the heads.
That's all.

836
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:11,340
Anyway, that's my story. Yeah.
Now I got nothing on the Iraq

837
00:46:11,340 --> 00:46:11,700
War.

838
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:16,530
I did enjoy. In fact, I played
one of his bits. Not the one you

839
00:46:16,530 --> 00:46:18,540
sent me. The kid from Brooklyn.

840
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,630
Right, the members name

841
00:46:24,660 --> 00:46:27,390
the big man. It's the kid from
brooklyn.com.

842
00:46:28,230 --> 00:46:30,870
Oh, the kid from Brooklyn.
Touchdown, but those DVDs I gave

843
00:46:30,870 --> 00:46:33,180
you No, no, I haven't. I haven't
even had time to look at those.

844
00:46:33,180 --> 00:46:35,970
I apologise. I'll watch them on
the way over. Yeah. Yeah. The

845
00:46:35,970 --> 00:46:39,390
kid from Brooklyn. Right. Well,
the thing. That's awesome. That

846
00:46:39,390 --> 00:46:43,560
guy is people have to go see I
was gonna blog it but it was so

847
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:44,400
offensive

848
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,040
here. But he has he has other
ones. He has other really funny

849
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,710
ones. Yeah, he does have a
couple that are incredibly

850
00:46:49,710 --> 00:46:51,030
offensive. But you know.

851
00:46:52,170 --> 00:46:55,170
So it's called the kid from
brooklyn.com? Or is he just a

852
00:46:55,170 --> 00:46:56,850
kid from Brooklyn? YouTube's the

853
00:46:56,850 --> 00:47:00,510
Brit the kid from brooklyn.com.
And he actually charges for

854
00:47:00,510 --> 00:47:02,250
that, John, he's making money on
that.

855
00:47:03,690 --> 00:47:04,680
Really? Well. I

856
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,620
don't know if he's making money.
He's charging as like, we need

857
00:47:07,620 --> 00:47:10,230
to make money to two bucks a
month or something like that.

858
00:47:10,260 --> 00:47:11,040
Yeah, well, that's

859
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:11,850
not a bad deal.

860
00:47:12,240 --> 00:47:15,300
I signed up. I'm like, This
guy's just too funny. I have to

861
00:47:15,300 --> 00:47:17,700
see his shit is just too fucking
funny.

862
00:47:18,630 --> 00:47:22,050
Yeah, he is funny. He's good. So
I guess he's running for

863
00:47:22,050 --> 00:47:23,220
president. No, no,

864
00:47:23,220 --> 00:47:29,040
he's withdrawn now. Oh, he's
endorsing Obama. You should have

865
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:33,660
heard his riff on Cheney,
though. He was so good. I'll say

866
00:47:33,660 --> 00:47:34,680
I'll send a couple to you.

867
00:47:35,940 --> 00:47:39,540
So yeah, he was funny. I thought
he was a good contrast to that,

868
00:47:39,570 --> 00:47:42,720
that that kind of erudite
British character who

869
00:47:42,750 --> 00:47:47,340
had Rando or whatever it is Pat
Kondo Connell. Anna was

870
00:47:47,340 --> 00:47:51,630
named upon ago. Yeah. Yeah, I've
heard him a few times.

871
00:47:52,170 --> 00:47:56,250
He reminds me exactly of a
television producer. I know. It

872
00:47:56,250 --> 00:48:00,120
really freaks me out whenever I
see him like, Oh, no. It can't

873
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:00,750
be that guy.

874
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,570
So let's see what else is in the
news. Anything that's of

875
00:48:06,570 --> 00:48:09,840
interest internationally. Sup
the weather?

876
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,830
Well, I don't want to bore you
with finance stuff.

877
00:48:14,490 --> 00:48:17,850
Oh, what's the finance stuff? I
had a finance thought the other

878
00:48:17,850 --> 00:48:22,320
day. Do you go? When I was
thinking that you know what? I

879
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,440
think you would the dollar
sinking. Here's the there's

880
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:26,850
anomaly going on one

881
00:48:26,850 --> 00:48:29,550
foot 158. Five at the time at
present.

882
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,520
I think they're gonna push it
down was two, and then they're

883
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:34,980
gonna pull the plug on it. And
then it's gonna go into reverse

884
00:48:34,980 --> 00:48:37,980
so fast that you won't know what
the hell happened. You made up?

885
00:48:39,150 --> 00:48:41,700
Yeah, the dollar. And here's
what the deal is. They're trying

886
00:48:41,700 --> 00:48:45,660
to screw China, I'm convinced to
this. China will not budge on

887
00:48:45,660 --> 00:48:49,320
linking their money to the
dollar. So we decide to screw

888
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:53,490
the dollar up so much that the
Chinese have to unlink and hook

889
00:48:53,490 --> 00:48:55,200
because now there's talk about
the Chinese I

890
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,720
want you to want to Europe.
Yeah. And they want to dump all

891
00:48:57,720 --> 00:49:01,650
of their like a trillion dollars
back into the marketplace. Let

892
00:49:01,650 --> 00:49:09,270
them okay, and then what and how
exactly do you take the value of

893
00:49:09,270 --> 00:49:11,640
the dollar up again? What what
is the economic How about

894
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,250
this for an idea that economics
of the situation as it now

895
00:49:14,250 --> 00:49:20,070
exists is untenable. I mean, you
can't be me the the exports of

896
00:49:20,070 --> 00:49:24,060
Europe are falling like a rock.
Americans are short of actually

897
00:49:24,060 --> 00:49:27,540
producing enough stuff to
actually start exporting mostly

898
00:49:27,540 --> 00:49:31,530
to Europe, obviously not to
China. And you know, we have a

899
00:49:31,530 --> 00:49:33,900
tourist trade over here. Now
this is astonishing, even though

900
00:49:33,900 --> 00:49:36,960
there's a pain in the butt to
get through to the immigration

901
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:41,760
and it's just a matter of, you
know, what is something worth?

902
00:49:42,180 --> 00:49:44,670
And why is why could somebody
from here's a good question that

903
00:49:44,670 --> 00:49:48,630
you have to ask yourself, why
does somebody come sam I'm in

904
00:49:48,630 --> 00:49:52,110
Paris right now go into a Paris
wine store. And there's a bottle

905
00:49:52,110 --> 00:49:57,450
of wine selling 35 euros and I
go the United States and that

906
00:49:57,450 --> 00:50:00,450
exact same bottle of wine is
selling for the UK. equivalent

907
00:50:00,450 --> 00:50:04,620
of 20 euros and it's a French
wine. Does anybody see that?

908
00:50:04,620 --> 00:50:07,500
This is like something wrong
with this picture or is it just

909
00:50:07,500 --> 00:50:07,950
me

910
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:12,600
but that that obviously

911
00:50:12,660 --> 00:50:14,910
untenable that's the point I'm
trying to make. It's kind of

912
00:50:14,910 --> 00:50:18,720
tangible the whole thing is
rigged to screw the Chinese. So

913
00:50:18,720 --> 00:50:19,650
let's see what happens.

914
00:50:19,770 --> 00:50:22,890
Okay, so screwing the Chinese
how because

915
00:50:23,790 --> 00:50:27,840
so that here's how here's how
you screw them they won't unlink

916
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:31,170
from our dollar so okay fine
let's run the dollar down to $2

917
00:50:31,170 --> 00:50:34,230
a Euro just make the dollar like
why do we want them to unlink?

918
00:50:35,190 --> 00:50:37,680
Because if they linked to
something, Mel because they're

919
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,710
low balling us on everything,
they're selling stuff for next

920
00:50:40,710 --> 00:50:43,380
to nothing, and it's ridiculous.
I mean, you can't compete with

921
00:50:43,380 --> 00:50:46,980
them they've taken over 75% of
the world's manufacturing man is

922
00:50:46,980 --> 00:50:49,530
basic because it's all
subsidised and you and it's

923
00:50:49,530 --> 00:50:53,040
because and if we tried to say
well you know the typical way

924
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,950
you would balance your you know
your exports and imports is that

925
00:50:55,950 --> 00:50:59,520
you devalue your money a little
bit to make you know to get

926
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,610
things kind of on an even keel
but wherever time you you keep

927
00:51:02,610 --> 00:51:04,980
lowering the value of the dollar
in any way shape or form the

928
00:51:04,980 --> 00:51:07,110
Chinese is linked to it Yeah,
we're still what cheap too

929
00:51:07,650 --> 00:51:10,890
and so you said that just like
him too we cheap too.

930
00:51:11,460 --> 00:51:14,700
So they take him go into the you
know the toilet with us but at

931
00:51:14,700 --> 00:51:17,130
some point somebody says this is
ridiculous this dollar is going

932
00:51:17,130 --> 00:51:20,400
to be useless that's linked to
the euro so they linked to the

933
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:23,670
euro let's say it's at to two to
two to one mark once they d link

934
00:51:23,670 --> 00:51:26,940
from the dollar now we can start
running the dollar value back up

935
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:30,270
and leave those guys in the dust
and all of a sudden there they

936
00:51:30,270 --> 00:51:33,870
will they will naturally have
revenge valued their money.

937
00:51:33,990 --> 00:51:35,310
Okay, bye but but John

938
00:51:35,310 --> 00:51:38,880
Wait a minute, if the dollar
continues to fall when we have

939
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,700
some kind of domino effect where
everyone starts dumping their

940
00:51:41,700 --> 00:51:45,060
dollars to get into the Euro
won't won't that just really

941
00:51:45,060 --> 00:51:48,090
accelerated and could ruin it
would make

942
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,480
why would it ruin it? And I
think I'd make it better. I'd

943
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:57,780
love to hear why it makes our
goods cheaper on the on the open

944
00:51:57,780 --> 00:52:02,430
market worldwide so what's wrong
with that? What goods? Well, we

945
00:52:02,430 --> 00:52:06,570
do produce automobiles and heavy
machinery and jets and

946
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:10,740
multimillion dollar aircraft
that sells for like a lot of

947
00:52:10,740 --> 00:52:14,400
money and it competes with the
European stuff that we do Airbus

948
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:16,800
is losing their ass because of
the fact that the dollar is so

949
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,770
cheap and we can sell Boeing jet
so much cheaper is killing

950
00:52:19,770 --> 00:52:22,380
people. Yeah, now for the most
part, we're still buying too

951
00:52:22,380 --> 00:52:24,330
much junk from China. But that's
the only thing that has been

952
00:52:24,330 --> 00:52:27,540
ruining us is that you know, the
Chinese have kind of taken over

953
00:52:27,540 --> 00:52:29,910
our manufacturing of the of the
lesser Good.

954
00:52:29,940 --> 00:52:32,160
Well, this is really complete
really interesting. This is

955
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:33,900
really interesting, because this
is something I've been talking

956
00:52:33,900 --> 00:52:38,370
about. So if consumers would
have just stopped buying goods

957
00:52:38,370 --> 00:52:40,320
from China, would that also
solve the problem?

958
00:52:42,390 --> 00:52:46,500
Well, it's impossible actually.
But let's just say that's never

959
00:52:46,500 --> 00:52:49,260
gonna happen. It's an
impractical concept. I mean, if

960
00:52:49,260 --> 00:52:52,860
we stopped the globalisation
Yeah, maybe or if China falls

961
00:52:52,860 --> 00:52:55,620
apart, you know, that's that
probably would do the trick too.

962
00:52:55,950 --> 00:52:58,890
But you know, which is going to
happen the way they're going.

963
00:52:59,220 --> 00:53:02,220
But the I mean, it's good for me
they're coming apart at the

964
00:53:02,220 --> 00:53:05,040
seams it seems to me this dual
Olympics thing is becoming a

965
00:53:05,370 --> 00:53:06,270
problem. Yeah.

966
00:53:06,390 --> 00:53:08,940
Where's that gonna end? I wonder
wonder the Olympics start

967
00:53:08,940 --> 00:53:09,480
actually,

968
00:53:09,720 --> 00:53:15,450
I think in about four years come
on, Milan, says the next

969
00:53:15,450 --> 00:53:18,000
Olympics. I guess it's this
October or something like that?

970
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:21,000
I think it's coming up. I'm
gonna see ioc.org I pursue or

971
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,670
basically yeah, look at No, no,
no, it must be this summer

972
00:53:23,670 --> 00:53:25,860
because it has to be a Summer
Olympics. So it's got to be like

973
00:53:25,860 --> 00:53:30,210
in July. And I want to be in
Beijing running around a track

974
00:53:30,210 --> 00:53:33,990
in July in China with all that
off the air there is horrible.

975
00:53:35,220 --> 00:53:37,860
How the hell do they get the
stewardship

976
00:53:37,890 --> 00:53:42,000
is all corrupt. You know, if you
look at paintings from China,

977
00:53:42,420 --> 00:53:44,430
it's really interesting to
compare paintings from China and

978
00:53:44,430 --> 00:53:46,590
paintings from Vietnam for
example of Vietnam and the

979
00:53:46,590 --> 00:53:50,430
Chinese both paint Western art
now. And and the Vietnamese if

980
00:53:50,430 --> 00:53:53,940
you want to have stuff made by
you know, one of these job shops

981
00:53:53,940 --> 00:53:57,480
down there. You go to Vietnam,
because they disguise in Vietnam

982
00:53:57,510 --> 00:54:01,620
are gorgeous. I've always wanted
to wait until I went I didn't

983
00:54:01,620 --> 00:54:04,530
realise it. But I knew that the
Vietnamese painted clouds better

984
00:54:04,530 --> 00:54:08,370
than probably any other people.
And so if you have a picture

985
00:54:08,370 --> 00:54:10,890
with that you want to copy it
has a lot of clouds in it, the

986
00:54:10,890 --> 00:54:13,560
Vietnamese will not get out. And
the reason is because they have

987
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:16,440
all these beautiful clouds in
the sky all the time. You look

988
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:19,500
at the Chinese art that's
actually made in China. I have a

989
00:54:19,500 --> 00:54:22,620
bunch of original pieces done by
some Chinese artists. The skies

990
00:54:22,620 --> 00:54:25,410
are always white. There's I
don't think I think there's

991
00:54:25,410 --> 00:54:29,130
parts of China where they've
never seen blue. It's always

992
00:54:29,130 --> 00:54:33,360
white. It's just a white mass.
You don't see any clouds. You

993
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:35,760
don't see the blue sky. It's
just as white. It's like being

994
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:39,060
in Los Angeles back in the 70s.
It's horrible.

995
00:54:41,010 --> 00:54:42,870
Eighth of August opening date.

996
00:54:45,930 --> 00:54:49,860
Hopefully, as they enter the
monsoon season, it could be good

997
00:54:49,860 --> 00:54:54,690
for a laugh Oh, that's in
Beijing. I don't think they have

998
00:54:54,690 --> 00:54:55,860
monsoons there.

999
00:54:56,100 --> 00:54:58,080
I have no idea. Have you ever
been to Beijing?

1000
00:54:58,620 --> 00:54:59,640
Oh yeah, a couple of times.

1001
00:55:01,230 --> 00:55:04,350
What city is, What city is it
most like the youth

1002
00:55:04,890 --> 00:55:09,570
used to be most pretty singular
Beijing ish. But then now it's

1003
00:55:09,570 --> 00:55:12,540
starting to look like Shanghai.
And so it's not, you know, as

1004
00:55:12,540 --> 00:55:15,630
cool as it once was. But it's
the it doesn't really, it

1005
00:55:15,630 --> 00:55:20,730
doesn't resemble anything in
Europe, it's pretty. China in in

1006
00:55:20,730 --> 00:55:24,240
itself has got a singular
quality that is

1007
00:55:25,140 --> 00:55:27,630
they got a whole different world
over there, don't they, John?

1008
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:29,610
It's a different country.

1009
00:55:29,790 --> 00:55:32,130
But that was really, really
different. I mean, it's, it's

1010
00:55:32,130 --> 00:55:35,940
really, really amazingly
different. And how little do we

1011
00:55:35,940 --> 00:55:37,380
actually know their culture?

1012
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:40,800
Well, there's a lot of Chinese
around, they'd love to tell you

1013
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,290
about their culture, they just
it's not hard to uncover. It's

1014
00:55:43,290 --> 00:55:46,470
not, you know, they don't have a
complex culture like the

1015
00:55:46,470 --> 00:55:49,860
Japanese where they have, you
know, the two faces and the, and

1016
00:55:49,860 --> 00:55:52,290
they act to act a certain way
and all that other stuff there.

1017
00:55:52,890 --> 00:55:57,570
It's not really so complicated
that you can deal with it. I'll

1018
00:55:57,570 --> 00:55:59,640
tell you this, you know, I was
sitting I think I may have

1019
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:02,850
mentioned this on an Early Show.
So I'm sitting at lunch with

1020
00:56:02,850 --> 00:56:08,700
some Chinese in Palo Alto that
were showing me some stuff from

1021
00:56:08,700 --> 00:56:11,730
Acer out of Taiwan. And I was
they were talking because

1022
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:14,790
conversation turned to China
because I you know, like going

1023
00:56:14,790 --> 00:56:21,210
there. It's kind of cool. And
And the woman was moaning about

1024
00:56:21,210 --> 00:56:24,330
some issues, I guess a Taiwanese
or maybe an American, she was

1025
00:56:24,510 --> 00:56:27,510
complaining. And so I always
have a great time. They always

1026
00:56:27,510 --> 00:56:29,610
have a great time. She's Yeah,
it's because you're white.

1027
00:56:31,050 --> 00:56:32,340
I don't think you've told me
that one.

1028
00:56:32,910 --> 00:56:36,060
Yeah. And she says just because
you're white. So she says if

1029
00:56:36,060 --> 00:56:40,140
you're especially an American,
and you're in like Shanghai, or

1030
00:56:40,140 --> 00:56:42,480
Beijing, they fall all over
themselves, because they want to

1031
00:56:42,720 --> 00:56:46,530
improve their American English.
I think America is great. You

1032
00:56:46,530 --> 00:56:49,020
know, they have all these crazy
things, you know, they just felt

1033
00:56:49,020 --> 00:56:51,960
they kiss your ass. And so you
always have a pretty good time

1034
00:56:51,990 --> 00:56:56,280
if you're white. And she said,
but if you're like Chinese, you

1035
00:56:56,280 --> 00:57:00,090
know, from especially if you're
not a Chinese giant from China,

1036
00:57:00,420 --> 00:57:03,390
they just give you a bit make
your life miserable. She says, I

1037
00:57:03,390 --> 00:57:03,840
don't know.

1038
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:06,870
Okay, so So what you're saying
is that the in general, the

1039
00:57:06,870 --> 00:57:12,030
typical Chinese person really
aspires to have a life like us

1040
00:57:12,030 --> 00:57:12,750
in the West.

1041
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:15,510
I think there's an element to
that. I mean, the first time I

1042
00:57:15,510 --> 00:57:17,370
went to China, which was they
said, Come on in

1043
00:57:17,370 --> 00:57:21,720
Boys, come check it out. You'll
have a grand old time.

1044
00:57:22,380 --> 00:57:24,810
First time went to China, which
was, I don't know, 15 years ago

1045
00:57:24,810 --> 00:57:28,260
or so. And I was with a group
and I had to listen to the

1046
00:57:28,260 --> 00:57:33,660
lectures. And, and the Chinese
were very adamant about copying

1047
00:57:33,690 --> 00:57:38,220
our aspects of American
capitalism and lifestyle. I

1048
00:57:38,220 --> 00:57:39,690
mean, they just announced it.

1049
00:57:40,830 --> 00:57:42,720
Interesting. Well,

1050
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:45,870
and what's the real hang about
it? There's evidence.

1051
00:57:47,670 --> 00:57:49,830
I'm sorry, you dropped out
there. And John, would you say?

1052
00:57:49,979 --> 00:57:53,099
I'm, I'm saying I don't think
they were lying about it. I do

1053
00:57:53,099 --> 00:57:55,229
think that their their
interpretations a little

1054
00:57:55,229 --> 00:57:58,319
different than what we would
actually do. Yeah, maybe?

1055
00:57:58,650 --> 00:58:00,840
Perhaps it's what they see on
television.

1056
00:58:01,709 --> 00:58:06,209
I think there's that element.
And they have a lot of Chinese

1057
00:58:06,209 --> 00:58:08,699
over here. I mean, again, they
go back and forth. And so it's

1058
00:58:08,699 --> 00:58:09,119
not like

1059
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:13,380
it's the Chinese are everywhere.
Yeah, they're taking

1060
00:58:13,380 --> 00:58:16,080
over Africa. That's actually the
news that needs to be followed.

1061
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:18,570
Hmm, South Africa, North Africa,

1062
00:58:19,110 --> 00:58:19,980
all of Africa.

1063
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:21,000
What are they doing?

1064
00:58:22,500 --> 00:58:23,460
Well, the fact that right?

1065
00:58:24,180 --> 00:58:26,910
Now, we have it that's our
natural resources. We're, we're

1066
00:58:26,910 --> 00:58:28,950
the ones supposed to be fucking
that up. How come they get to

1067
00:58:28,950 --> 00:58:29,550
jump in?

1068
00:58:30,090 --> 00:58:33,600
And they've they're there,
because they don't have the

1069
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:37,620
political correctness gene that
we do. So they do a lot of dirty

1070
00:58:37,620 --> 00:58:44,310
deals. To screw the natives. And
I first heard about this, if

1071
00:58:44,310 --> 00:58:45,600
this was about not to

1072
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:47,160
generalise or anything, John.

1073
00:58:49,470 --> 00:58:53,010
I'm generalising from what I've
been told. Okay. I don't know

1074
00:58:53,010 --> 00:58:55,230
because I haven't met balayage.
I talked to a lot of guys who go

1075
00:58:55,230 --> 00:59:01,200
back and forth Africa Latin, and
nobody's denied this. But I

1076
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:03,930
first heard about this, I think
it was maybe three or four years

1077
00:59:03,930 --> 00:59:08,040
ago, first time, I was up in
Windsor, Canada, giving a talk

1078
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:11,880
to of all people. It's kind of
the the remnants of the OS two

1079
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:17,040
community. And there was a bunch
of hot shots there, including

1080
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:20,310
the one of the mainstays of PHP
and then there was a bunch of

1081
00:59:20,370 --> 00:59:23,100
there was a couple of Germans
and that one guy from Germany

1082
00:59:23,340 --> 00:59:27,330
was telling me about how the
Germans had been kind of pushed

1083
00:59:27,330 --> 00:59:30,240
out of China by the I'm sorry,
pushed out of Africa by the

1084
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:34,860
Chinese, who come in with the
sweet deals. And then they bring

1085
00:59:34,860 --> 00:59:37,440
all their own people in and they
build their own cities. And then

1086
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:39,930
the next thing you know, they're
pushing all that what they do,

1087
00:59:40,260 --> 00:59:44,460
he claimed, and I was denied
this either. They do the

1088
00:59:44,460 --> 00:59:48,570
following. They do they open up
a big contract to build a dam.

1089
00:59:49,020 --> 00:59:52,770
Yeah. And then they bypass it
and then then because they need

1090
00:59:52,770 --> 00:59:56,400
all this dis dis equipment, like
from computers to everything in

1091
00:59:56,400 --> 01:00:00,780
the world to build the dam. They
bring all that stuff in Duty

1092
01:00:00,780 --> 01:00:04,860
Free into their into this
country. And then they start

1093
01:00:04,860 --> 01:00:08,610
selling it on the grey market.
Hey, so do you

1094
01:00:08,610 --> 01:00:10,830
think what GAVI has anything to
do? The whole Magog was

1095
01:00:10,830 --> 01:00:13,110
situation has anything to do
with the Chinese? Do you think

1096
01:00:13,110 --> 01:00:14,040
that a deal with him,

1097
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:19,410
I'll have to go to this unknown
fact. Anyway so so they bring

1098
01:00:19,410 --> 01:00:22,800
this stuff it goes like this the
way the thing works the way the

1099
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:26,280
German guy explained it to me,
he says you have a legitimate

1100
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:29,280
company coming in from Germany
selling for example, power

1101
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:32,190
supplies or and computers, they
go through the channels, they

1102
01:00:32,190 --> 01:00:34,200
have to pay the duties, they
gotta do all these things that

1103
01:00:34,380 --> 01:00:37,920
computer comes out at Red a
bunch of it costs a fortune. The

1104
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:41,190
Chinese come into the back door
with all this gear they bring in

1105
01:00:41,190 --> 01:00:44,160
because they're doing this big
dam or they're building some

1106
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:48,060
Civic Centre or something. And
they bring all this crap in and

1107
01:00:48,090 --> 01:00:51,180
they lowball the Germans and put
them out of business goes rat

1108
01:00:51,180 --> 01:00:54,210
bastards. And nobody does
anything about it. And he says

1109
01:00:54,210 --> 01:00:56,340
and this is the worst part about
is the crap they're bringing in

1110
01:00:56,340 --> 01:00:59,100
is garbage. So it's blowing up
all the time and the power

1111
01:00:59,100 --> 01:01:00,240
supplies are no good. So

1112
01:01:00,540 --> 01:01:04,140
that's something we got to watch
out for. I agree, man because it

1113
01:01:04,140 --> 01:01:06,990
does seem like this seems to be
a lot of issues with products

1114
01:01:06,990 --> 01:01:08,340
manufactured in China.

1115
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:12,270
Yeah, there is now he says the
kicker is the way they end he

1116
01:01:12,270 --> 01:01:14,880
says it would make it really
work for him is they never

1117
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:17,910
officially finished the
projects. There's always

1118
01:01:17,910 --> 01:01:22,320
something and so they keep
bringing this stuff in through

1119
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:25,260
the back door and then they
didn't dump it into the system

1120
01:01:25,260 --> 01:01:30,270
into the economy as opposed to
using the dam and the next thing

1121
01:01:30,270 --> 01:01:32,490
you know they've taken over the
place because they're all a

1122
01:01:32,490 --> 01:01:36,390
little businesses either local
or from Germany United States or

1123
01:01:36,390 --> 01:01:39,000
wherever it's placed out there
all our business they can't

1124
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:40,830
compete with these Chinese so
what they do,

1125
01:01:40,860 --> 01:01:44,850
I guess they do it must be
Chinese government then or is it

1126
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:50,580
is it it can't be big
commercial. You know? Who are

1127
01:01:50,580 --> 01:01:53,910
these? I mean, so who's doing
the deal with who obviously with

1128
01:01:53,910 --> 01:01:57,240
guys like Mugabe so you have how
many presidency have in Africa

1129
01:01:57,240 --> 01:01:58,230
maybe 18

1130
01:01:58,830 --> 01:02:01,260
I don't know that it is
happening everywhere they just I

1131
01:02:01,260 --> 01:02:03,270
just watching it on BBC they
were talking about how they're

1132
01:02:03,270 --> 01:02:06,450
taking over like what another
Mozambique or something? Now,

1133
01:02:06,780 --> 01:02:09,750
here's the thing is who is
doing? This is an interesting

1134
01:02:09,750 --> 01:02:12,960
question, because you don't know
if it's the you know what level

1135
01:02:13,110 --> 01:02:16,980
this is being instigated a large
part of it, it's coming from the

1136
01:02:17,010 --> 01:02:20,100
US as a group of Chinese you
know, and this is another

1137
01:02:20,100 --> 01:02:22,920
discussion you can get into with
Chinese I'm gonna get you know,

1138
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:25,860
some email wow, you know, you're
generalising. I may be

1139
01:02:25,860 --> 01:02:29,250
generalising but I'm not
generalising from not having at

1140
01:02:29,250 --> 01:02:32,160
least checked it out. John,
John, John,

1141
01:02:32,190 --> 01:02:35,760
you have credibility, my friend?
No worries, I got your back.

1142
01:02:36,300 --> 01:02:39,270
So anyway, so here's the here's
the way it shakes out the chat.

1143
01:02:39,450 --> 01:02:43,590
There's a bunch of of cultural
things going on in China as to

1144
01:02:43,590 --> 01:02:47,460
how the Chinese are going to do
business in the world of

1145
01:02:47,460 --> 01:02:53,220
business, the global world. And
initially, everybody believed

1146
01:02:53,220 --> 01:02:55,500
that what was going to happen is
that all of these because the

1147
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:58,560
Taiwanese had developed all
these great connections all over

1148
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:04,890
the world, and are kind of, you
know, fairly honest businessmen.

1149
01:03:05,190 --> 01:03:08,130
By some standards, they're, you
know, there may not be

1150
01:03:08,130 --> 01:03:10,650
completely but they're pretty
good. They have because we work

1151
01:03:10,650 --> 01:03:11,550
with them all the time. I mean,

1152
01:03:11,999 --> 01:03:15,209
for decades, America for a long
time for a long, good

1153
01:03:15,209 --> 01:03:15,749
relationship.

1154
01:03:15,990 --> 01:03:18,810
And they were going to influence
how China does business. But

1155
01:03:18,810 --> 01:03:22,410
there's another group of Chinese
businessman of the Malaysian

1156
01:03:22,410 --> 01:03:26,340
Chinese, who are the guys who
are the real cut.

1157
01:03:28,860 --> 01:03:33,930
The minute you said cut throat,
Skype cut out easy doesn't man,

1158
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:34,800
they're listening in

1159
01:03:35,670 --> 01:03:41,730
cutthroat characters. Anyway,
they are nasty. I mean, they

1160
01:03:41,730 --> 01:03:45,000
really are the capitalists and
they are seem to be getting more

1161
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:48,360
and more influenced because they
do bigger deals, they have

1162
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:51,330
better profits, they do all
kinds of stuff that just makes

1163
01:03:51,330 --> 01:03:54,660
these you know, the Taiwanese
are wimps by comparison in terms

1164
01:03:54,660 --> 01:03:58,200
of the world, world class, you
know, cutthroat business deals.

1165
01:03:58,740 --> 01:04:02,280
And the Malaysian Chinese seemed
to have something to do with

1166
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:07,140
this African deal, I think now,
and the Malaysian Chinese are

1167
01:04:07,290 --> 01:04:11,400
short draft customers. I mean,
they're the ones who you know,

1168
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:17,370
they're probably a lot of the
triad meant they had they have

1169
01:04:17,370 --> 01:04:23,010
to be kind of rough customers to
party there. And they're always

1170
01:04:23,010 --> 01:04:25,050
being you know, the government's
always threatening to kick the

1171
01:04:25,050 --> 01:04:29,340
Chinese out of Malaysia. And you
know, it's kind of otherwise

1172
01:04:29,340 --> 01:04:32,970
it'd be a Muslim country like
Indonesia, but the Chinese have

1173
01:04:33,780 --> 01:04:37,620
so own Malaysia in terms of the
fact that wouldn't operate on

1174
01:04:37,620 --> 01:04:41,310
this level it's at you wouldn't
have those twin towers, the

1175
01:04:41,310 --> 01:04:43,890
Petronas Towers or anything
going on without these Chinese

1176
01:04:43,890 --> 01:04:47,490
there and I've met more than a
few of them and they are

1177
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:49,590
what kind of business are they
in typically John, is it all

1178
01:04:49,590 --> 01:04:51,600
manufacturing? Is it all their

1179
01:04:52,110 --> 01:04:56,700
newspapers manufacturing,
import, export, everything,

1180
01:04:56,820 --> 01:04:58,980
nothing is beyond them.

1181
01:04:59,010 --> 01:05:01,560
You know it all Well sounds like
one of those science fiction

1182
01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:04,020
movies, you know, kind of like
Schwarzenegger deal where you've

1183
01:05:04,020 --> 01:05:08,100
got all these really shady
characters lurking in bars all

1184
01:05:08,100 --> 01:05:11,940
different, like ethnic looks and
stuff. You know what I mean?

1185
01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:18,510
Yeah, I know what you mean. But
they they tend to be in a hot

1186
01:05:18,510 --> 01:05:22,890
first class hotels Rolls Royces,
Mercedes Rolls Royces and that

1187
01:05:23,070 --> 01:05:27,540
type of thing. They're very
showy. And then there's the

1188
01:05:27,540 --> 01:05:30,420
other group, which is the Hong
Kong Chinese. But I think

1189
01:05:30,420 --> 01:05:33,420
they've been marginalised. And
essentially, Hong Kong has been

1190
01:05:33,420 --> 01:05:36,990
turned to Switzerland is
essentially a banking community.

1191
01:05:36,990 --> 01:05:40,620
And the the action for
international trade has been

1192
01:05:40,620 --> 01:05:43,980
shifted up to Shanghai, from
Hong Kong and Hong Kong. If you

1193
01:05:43,980 --> 01:05:47,430
go there now, it's very
expensive. When I was a kid, you

1194
01:05:47,430 --> 01:05:49,710
could go to Hong Kong and buy
cheap cameras. I mean,

1195
01:05:49,710 --> 01:05:55,380
everything was inexpensive. And
then all of a sudden, were like

1196
01:05:55,380 --> 01:05:55,980
going there.

1197
01:05:57,420 --> 01:05:58,440
So the last part again

1198
01:06:01,110 --> 01:06:09,240
uncle's expensive. I mean, it's
like really expensive. Yeah. I'm

1199
01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:11,820
sorry. Yeah, so our connection
crapped out.

1200
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:14,220
Yeah, I was just listening. I
was really tuning into what you

1201
01:06:14,220 --> 01:06:16,410
were saying. And it crapped out
once or twice, but it's okay. I

1202
01:06:16,410 --> 01:06:19,530
mean, it was it was easily
followable.

1203
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:22,830
Ya know, anyway, the point is,
if you're gonna, if somebody

1204
01:06:22,830 --> 01:06:25,440
wants to go visit China, I
always tell him just get on a

1205
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:26,640
plane, what's so good.

1206
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:29,340
But all these things you're
telling me? And I'm really I'm

1207
01:06:29,340 --> 01:06:31,320
just kind of, you know,
reflecting and thought here.

1208
01:06:32,490 --> 01:06:34,290
This seems to be a problem.

1209
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:36,030
Oh, it's huge.

1210
01:06:36,090 --> 01:06:39,300
So huge problem. No, but but we
seem to be like, everyone is

1211
01:06:39,300 --> 01:06:41,460
sucking up because the Chinese
you know, we're taking their

1212
01:06:41,460 --> 01:06:46,800
sovereign wealth funds where we
continue to have an insatiable

1213
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:52,530
appetite for products made in
China. I don't know. I just it

1214
01:06:52,530 --> 01:06:56,550
feels like, that's kind of
weird. No, you don't not a lot

1215
01:06:56,550 --> 01:06:57,930
of people talk about it that
way.

1216
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:02,100
It's really too bad. They
didn't, the people talked about

1217
01:07:02,100 --> 01:07:05,100
it more, I think it would help
resolve some of the problems.

1218
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:08,640
You know, the thing is, like, I
keep telling her just go to

1219
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:11,550
China will Yeah. I mean, the
problem we have in this country

1220
01:07:11,550 --> 01:07:15,000
is a media gives us a skewed
perspective of China. Some

1221
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:18,540
people, including Dan Rather,
himself, still call it Red

1222
01:07:18,540 --> 01:07:22,200
China, as if it was, you know,
as if everyone's wearing mild

1223
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:26,370
costumes. You know, when some
years ago, I went to Beijing, I

1224
01:07:26,370 --> 01:07:30,270
think the first time I went to
Beijing is with PC computing, or

1225
01:07:30,270 --> 01:07:33,540
some we'll go a little group of
us. And what we wanted to do,

1226
01:07:33,540 --> 01:07:39,780
and this was a while ago, this
is like 9697 96 What we wanted

1227
01:07:39,780 --> 01:07:43,350
to do, because you never been
there before, or to Beijing. I

1228
01:07:43,350 --> 01:07:45,840
think it's my first trip to
Beijing. I had been to Hong Kong

1229
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:51,270
and Taiwan a million times. And
we wanted to get him out outfit.

1230
01:07:51,810 --> 01:07:53,670
You know, like so one of those
mouth thinks it'd be kind

1231
01:07:53,670 --> 01:07:57,180
of cool, great. And that you
look kind of like a heavier

1232
01:07:57,180 --> 01:08:02,730
version of the of the mastering
grasshopper. Time to snatch the

1233
01:08:02,730 --> 01:08:05,550
pebbles from my hands. You'd
look fantastic. You should wear

1234
01:08:05,550 --> 01:08:07,980
that to work. So anyway,

1235
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:11,640
you can't find them anywhere.
And I'm thinking, well, there's

1236
01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:13,620
a tourist, they don't take
advantage of the tourist

1237
01:08:13,620 --> 01:08:15,990
opportunities here. There. They
haven't worn those things.

1238
01:08:15,990 --> 01:08:19,530
Apparently, we're told, you
know, for what, 20 years, and

1239
01:08:19,530 --> 01:08:22,260
they were there everyone looked
at us like we're crazy even one

1240
01:08:22,260 --> 01:08:24,510
when these things have all been
shipped to the you know, they've

1241
01:08:24,510 --> 01:08:27,690
all been sent out to the middle
of nowhere for farmers to use if

1242
01:08:27,690 --> 01:08:34,500
they can't find any closers for
free so when your level of high

1243
01:08:34,530 --> 01:08:37,320
high souvenir level like you
know, now jacket, they didn't

1244
01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:40,380
you couldn't get it and I think
is probably still true today. In

1245
01:08:40,380 --> 01:08:42,780
fact, we ended up finding
someone who knew someone who

1246
01:08:42,780 --> 01:08:48,570
knew someone who had access to
some mouse they doing posters,

1247
01:08:48,870 --> 01:08:52,230
some classics, and big picture
that big portrait the one that's

1248
01:08:52,260 --> 01:08:54,990
that's a copy of the one in
Tiananmen Square. Yeah, sure.

1249
01:08:55,650 --> 01:08:58,740
And they gave us a big roll of
them for free that they took

1250
01:08:58,740 --> 01:09:01,470
from the library or someplace
that you know, somebody, they

1251
01:09:01,470 --> 01:09:03,750
were going to throw them out or
whatever, because they weren't

1252
01:09:03,750 --> 01:09:07,740
selling those either. And so we
took we everyone got one of

1253
01:09:07,740 --> 01:09:12,270
these, you know, posters and
took them home and framed them.

1254
01:09:12,270 --> 01:09:14,640
They're actually quite funny,
that's probably worth something.

1255
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:18,270
And baffled by the whole thing
they didn't know they didn't

1256
01:09:18,270 --> 01:09:21,630
know how to deal with you know,
any of this. It was like it was

1257
01:09:21,660 --> 01:09:24,540
baffling to the Chinese that
anyone would want this.

1258
01:09:27,270 --> 01:09:33,750
So they didn't get the whole you
know what tourists are? I don't

1259
01:09:33,750 --> 01:09:35,070
know where I was going with that
story. But

1260
01:09:36,329 --> 01:09:40,439
that's alright. That's really
interesting. And now I got a

1261
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:41,729
feeling I gotta go to China.

1262
01:09:42,209 --> 01:09:44,819
Now and that's what I was
saying. The story was about I

1263
01:09:44,819 --> 01:09:48,719
keep telling people just go to
China. Don't watch the news

1264
01:09:48,719 --> 01:09:51,689
reports. The news reports are
all inaccurate. Just get on a

1265
01:09:51,689 --> 01:09:55,199
plane and a good flight, by the
way is Vancouver to Shanghai.

1266
01:09:55,559 --> 01:09:59,309
Great flight short, it's like
sometimes like six hours or so

1267
01:09:59,309 --> 01:10:01,499
it's really short. which is
usually filled with a bunch of

1268
01:10:01,499 --> 01:10:04,829
Chinese businessmen. But it's a
great flight to Vancouver to

1269
01:10:04,829 --> 01:10:08,009
Shanghai, because they're both
up high on the line. How

1270
01:10:08,010 --> 01:10:10,380
long does it take to get from
San Francisco to Vancouver? Like

1271
01:10:10,410 --> 01:10:12,870
three hours? For now? It's gotta
be more than that's a two hour

1272
01:10:12,870 --> 01:10:12,990
it's

1273
01:10:12,990 --> 01:10:14,250
about a two hour limit. So

1274
01:10:14,250 --> 01:10:16,200
you can get to Shanghai in eight
hours.

1275
01:10:16,859 --> 01:10:18,899
Um, you know, I might be a
little shorter that but yeah, I

1276
01:10:18,899 --> 01:10:22,049
think so I think get to Shanghai
pretty quick. Okay. If you get

1277
01:10:22,049 --> 01:10:22,799
up to Vancouver,

1278
01:10:23,850 --> 01:10:25,470
from London, it's like, oh,
Landry day,

1279
01:10:25,500 --> 01:10:28,110
actually London going over the
top and maybe not be as far as

1280
01:10:28,110 --> 01:10:30,510
you think Shanghai is, is up
there.

1281
01:10:32,399 --> 01:10:37,319
As true as true, yeah. Oh, so
look at that. All right, I

1282
01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:39,180
could I bet you could get there
in 10 hours.

1283
01:10:39,210 --> 01:10:41,550
Well, that's like the same from
here to San Francisco.

1284
01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:43,590
Yeah, you go to Shanghai
instead.

1285
01:10:44,399 --> 01:10:45,449
That sounds like a good time.

1286
01:10:46,649 --> 01:10:49,649
I mean, I'll tell you the places
unbelievable, people just need

1287
01:10:49,649 --> 01:10:53,939
to go. It's cheap. It's dirt
cheap. And my one of my

1288
01:10:54,029 --> 01:10:57,629
favourite anecdotes is okay. And
I just did my comparison, I use

1289
01:10:57,629 --> 01:11:01,019
this, this is the difference
between, you know, the Western

1290
01:11:01,199 --> 01:11:05,909
NYSED world, and China, you can
go to Hong Kong go to the

1291
01:11:05,909 --> 01:11:08,759
airport, and a Hong Kong
Airport, which is all Western

1292
01:11:08,759 --> 01:11:12,929
prices, and it's a big expensive
play. And you buy a Coca Cola at

1293
01:11:12,929 --> 01:11:15,929
any of the stalls there stands.
By the way, it's a beautiful

1294
01:11:15,929 --> 01:11:21,269
airport. And it's a buck 50 At
least it was the last time I

1295
01:11:21,269 --> 01:11:24,569
went there, I don't like going
there. So then if you've then I

1296
01:11:24,629 --> 01:11:27,329
bought a coke is Buck 50. Same
coke did made from the same

1297
01:11:27,329 --> 01:11:29,249
factory, you go into the
mainland, you go to some

1298
01:11:29,279 --> 01:11:32,189
wherever you land, I don't care
where it is. You go into the

1299
01:11:32,189 --> 01:11:36,209
airport area, and you buy a Coca
Cola and the mainland, same

1300
01:11:36,209 --> 01:11:39,449
Coke, same factory, same
everything. 18 cents. So you

1301
01:11:39,449 --> 01:11:42,269
have a buck 50, which is what
you'd normally be paying

1302
01:11:42,299 --> 01:11:46,049
anyplace else in the world. You
go to China, it's 18 cents the

1303
01:11:46,079 --> 01:11:49,169
you know, in China, and that's
the way all the prices are

1304
01:11:49,169 --> 01:11:52,139
there. You can buy anything you
want, you can stay in the best

1305
01:11:52,139 --> 01:11:55,499
hotels, I mean, it's a dirt
cheap experience. And I keep

1306
01:11:55,499 --> 01:12:00,269
telling people to because they
need to see China while they can

1307
01:12:00,269 --> 01:12:04,919
you know China is always
shutting down. You got to go

1308
01:12:04,919 --> 01:12:07,529
there go to just take a flight
from Vancouver to Shanghai,

1309
01:12:07,529 --> 01:12:12,119
that's your absolute best bar at
best entertainment value. And,

1310
01:12:12,149 --> 01:12:15,089
you know, go for a weekend. I
mean, you know, people go to

1311
01:12:15,089 --> 01:12:16,949
Paris for the weekend. But
nobody ever thinks of going to

1312
01:12:16,949 --> 01:12:18,209
Shanghai for a guy

1313
01:12:18,210 --> 01:12:21,570
got it. John, all of a sudden it
hit me. I know how we're going

1314
01:12:21,570 --> 01:12:28,320
to be rich doing this show.
We've got to package tours. Go

1315
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:32,100
to Shanghai and we'll give you
stuff you load up on your phone

1316
01:12:32,100 --> 01:12:34,950
with your GPS. You know, you can
hear the story about a

1317
01:12:34,950 --> 01:12:38,580
particular restaurant will give
you all the directions of course

1318
01:12:38,580 --> 01:12:43,530
we'll have discount coupons.
Hookers are us for 20% off if

1319
01:12:43,530 --> 01:12:46,650
you use my GoDaddy code, and
this could really be a good

1320
01:12:46,650 --> 01:12:47,250
business.

1321
01:12:48,330 --> 01:12:51,150
Well, Ty, there's a lot to do.
And in Shanghai, that's for

1322
01:12:51,150 --> 01:12:55,260
sure. And the restaurants are
fantastic. Everything's

1323
01:12:55,260 --> 01:12:59,130
inexpensive places polluted, of
course. But this is beautiful.

1324
01:12:59,850 --> 01:13:03,240
It's absolutely beautiful. I
mean, the architecture is first

1325
01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:06,630
class, you know, all done by the
best firms? And how

1326
01:13:06,630 --> 01:13:08,880
about the people? Are you? Are
you a guy who hangs out with the

1327
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:14,130
people? Are you hanging out with
the Shanghai PC magazine editor?

1328
01:13:15,569 --> 01:13:18,149
I would hang out with the
Shanghai PC magazine editor,

1329
01:13:18,149 --> 01:13:20,399
what am I gonna do what I wanted
to do? What do I have in common

1330
01:13:20,399 --> 01:13:21,119
with the people

1331
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:23,370
who don't you have to learn
about the people and talk to

1332
01:13:23,370 --> 01:13:26,040
them? That's what I like doing.
You just want to go to the fancy

1333
01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:26,940
restaurants?

1334
01:13:27,420 --> 01:13:34,020
Yeah, well, you know, it'd be
honest about it. Yes. Yeah, you

1335
01:13:34,020 --> 01:13:37,080
know, you tell you just in an
ancillary way, there's no way

1336
01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:39,330
you can avoid the people because
the whole place is crowded with

1337
01:13:39,390 --> 01:13:41,670
you know, I mean, it's all
people as those 20 people or so

1338
01:13:41,670 --> 01:13:44,550
you end up learning quite a bit.
And they're very helpful by the

1339
01:13:44,550 --> 01:13:47,880
way. Now, yeah, more or less, it
will save some of my more

1340
01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:52,800
amusing Chinese and my, my, some
of my more favourite, you get a

1341
01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:55,410
lot of stories out of going to
China, I can tell you that much.

1342
01:13:55,439 --> 01:13:57,929
I'll tell you I enjoyed
listening to it. And and it's

1343
01:13:57,929 --> 01:14:00,179
really put China in a whole new
light for me, particularly this

1344
01:14:00,179 --> 01:14:02,609
Africa thing. I think one thing
we should look into that a

1345
01:14:02,609 --> 01:14:05,759
little bit because, you know, if
we don't tell people who will

1346
01:14:06,419 --> 01:14:09,389
apparently nobody, you didn't
even know Gordon Brown was in

1347
01:14:09,389 --> 01:14:11,759
the US. And it's the rare media

1348
01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:15,330
is I mean, what can I say? I
mean, it's really gotten

1349
01:14:15,330 --> 01:14:17,760
pathetic. And then you know, the
thing that's interesting is the

1350
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:22,200
media knows this. They they sit
around and and fret about it,

1351
01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:25,320
but they don't seem to be able
to do anything about it because

1352
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:28,050
it's like one of those things is
like good taste. If you don't

1353
01:14:28,050 --> 01:14:32,610
have it, you don't miss it. So
for for all practical purposes,

1354
01:14:32,610 --> 01:14:34,680
they don't they know that
there's this is going on the

1355
01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:36,930
media people, but they don't
know what to do about because

1356
01:14:36,930 --> 01:14:38,520
they can't do anything about
because they don't have any.

1357
01:14:39,900 --> 01:14:43,650
Yeah. But John J schools. No,
no.

1358
01:14:44,399 --> 01:14:47,249
Do you have the solution? Do you
Do you know what we need to do

1359
01:14:47,249 --> 01:14:51,509
to fix this? Yeah, blogging.
Really, really? You think that's

1360
01:14:51,509 --> 01:14:55,769
gonna do it? No, it's not gonna
do anything. So is there a

1361
01:14:55,769 --> 01:14:57,449
solution? Is there a fix it?

1362
01:14:58,830 --> 01:15:01,890
No, I don't think there is a Fix
I think the we have to reset the

1363
01:15:01,890 --> 01:15:04,650
whole system, which I think is
going to happen in a couple

1364
01:15:04,650 --> 01:15:06,030
years whenever we have a
depression.

1365
01:15:06,119 --> 01:15:10,379
So we talk about that next time,
the depression and fixing it.

1366
01:15:11,010 --> 01:15:13,530
Yeah, maybe we can try. Maybe
somebody can send us some

1367
01:15:13,530 --> 01:15:15,990
suggestions. All you know, the
suggestion is always going to be

1368
01:15:15,990 --> 01:15:17,340
the same, which is like, you
know,

1369
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:24,750
talk about Twitter more. Yeah.
Less or less? No, no, that was

1370
01:15:24,750 --> 01:15:26,910
this was an important. You know,
this is an important step.

1371
01:15:26,910 --> 01:15:29,820
Although I am a little bit
saddened that you didn't give me

1372
01:15:29,820 --> 01:15:32,670
any credit for actually getting
you on to Twitter. I do think I

1373
01:15:32,670 --> 01:15:34,920
was the guy that pushed you over
the edge eventually.

1374
01:15:35,460 --> 01:15:39,270
You think so? Yes, of course.
All right. Well, I'll give you

1375
01:15:39,270 --> 01:15:41,910
the credit industry. Thanks to
you. Then I'm on Twitter. The

1376
01:15:41,910 --> 01:15:43,800
real divorce hack is the name
doesn't feel

1377
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:45,870
the same anymore. So okay,

1378
01:15:45,870 --> 01:15:48,810
well, we're forgetting. I'm
sorry. I know you're

1379
01:15:48,810 --> 01:15:50,760
oversensitive. People don't
realise that about you.

1380
01:15:52,199 --> 01:15:55,439
All right, John. Hey, hola. We
should see if we can hook up for

1381
01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:58,019
dinner. Maybe Thursday night,
maybe?

1382
01:15:58,650 --> 01:15:59,880
Thursday night would probably be
good.

1383
01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:02,820
Okay. Then I've been in town for
a couple days, so I won't be so

1384
01:16:02,850 --> 01:16:07,740
knackered. Okay, all right.
Okay, and for all the rest of

1385
01:16:07,740 --> 01:16:11,610
you. I'm Adam curry here in the
United Kingdom in the curry

1386
01:16:11,610 --> 01:16:12,030
Manor.

1387
01:16:13,259 --> 01:16:17,369
I'm John C. Dvorak catch me
dvorak.org/blog. I thought I'd

1388
01:16:17,369 --> 01:16:19,919
throw that in. And I'm up here
in sunny Northern California.

1389
01:16:19,919 --> 01:16:21,719
I'm gonna go shopping at the
farmers market.

1390
01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:24,990
And we'll talk to you again next
week right here on no agenda.