1 00:00:01,740 --> 00:00:04,650 Once again, it's time for the show that has no jingles, no 2 00:00:04,650 --> 00:00:07,710 commercials, no music, no talent, and most certainly no 3 00:00:07,710 --> 00:00:11,040 agenda produced on a Skype of phonic transcontinental 4 00:00:11,040 --> 00:00:14,190 connection. It's the ultimate oral friends with benefits from 5 00:00:14,190 --> 00:00:16,290 the manor just south of London. I'm Adam curry. 6 00:00:17,070 --> 00:00:19,350 And I'm John C. Dvorak in Northern California. 7 00:00:19,380 --> 00:00:22,860 Hey, John, how you doing? It's a Saturday evening for Me Saturday 8 00:00:22,890 --> 00:00:24,120 morning, afternoon for you. 9 00:00:24,750 --> 00:00:29,130 Yeah, sitting around noon now. The actually it's noon. But you 10 00:00:29,130 --> 00:00:31,200 notice our connections a little weird. Now. I'm wondering if has 11 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:33,690 anything to do with thanksgiving? Everybody took 12 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,930 took off this weekend? You think that connection listen to us 13 00:00:36,930 --> 00:00:39,030 would be a little better? Well, I'm not not sure. 14 00:00:39,390 --> 00:00:42,870 You know, the connections over here in the UK. i We have such 15 00:00:42,870 --> 00:00:47,070 varying quality. And it's a it's really it's a country wide 16 00:00:47,070 --> 00:00:50,460 problem. So I would say it's probably on my end, if anything. 17 00:00:50,460 --> 00:00:53,370 And of course I've got two women in the House who love watching 18 00:00:53,370 --> 00:00:54,360 YouTube videos. 19 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:57,930 Well, that's not good. 20 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:03,660 No, it's not good. Hey, man, dominating the news. Here in the 21 00:01:03,660 --> 00:01:08,520 UK. Do you know what it is? No. What? Tell me it's the missing 22 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:12,150 25 million records on DVD and CD. ROMs. 23 00:01:13,530 --> 00:01:17,070 Yeah, we actually blogged that thing on the divorce iq.org/blog 24 00:01:17,070 --> 00:01:21,600 blog. 25. Yeah, I know the apparently what happened there 25 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:23,700 that will give you the story. From what we've heard, even 26 00:01:23,700 --> 00:01:26,040 though it's hardly big news here. We just kind of you know, 27 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:29,130 it's not it was not about what's going on here. We don't care 28 00:01:29,130 --> 00:01:32,700 that much. But it sounds as though somebody in the 29 00:01:32,730 --> 00:01:37,140 government sent two CD ROMs in the mail. I guess they just 30 00:01:37,140 --> 00:01:40,380 dropped them off into the one of the boxes on the corner. And 31 00:01:40,380 --> 00:01:43,530 they never got delivered. There's no receipts or anything. 32 00:01:43,530 --> 00:01:45,420 So they don't know where they are. And they're worried sick. 33 00:01:45,660 --> 00:01:48,000 Although the discs apparently were encrypted. I don't see what 34 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:49,590 the big what the fear is? 35 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:51,570 Well, there's a couple there's a couple things going on with 36 00:01:51,570 --> 00:01:56,670 this. First of all, there's been talk of a national identity card 37 00:01:56,670 --> 00:02:01,500 in the UK for quite a while now. So this is more about what 38 00:02:01,500 --> 00:02:04,050 happens with your data. What is the government doing with your 39 00:02:04,050 --> 00:02:06,990 data? Is there any privacy which of course is really interesting 40 00:02:06,990 --> 00:02:11,460 for a country that has, I don't know 20 30,000 cameras hanging 41 00:02:11,460 --> 00:02:14,880 everywhere, you can't take a crap without, you know, a CCTV 42 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:21,570 camera capturing it. So privacy concerns put aside, this was 43 00:02:21,570 --> 00:02:28,350 part of a coming clean in Parliament on the side of the of 44 00:02:28,350 --> 00:02:31,500 the Labour Party, where I know there's been all kinds of little 45 00:02:31,500 --> 00:02:34,350 scandals that have taken place. And I guess, you know, this 46 00:02:34,350 --> 00:02:36,480 this, I don't think they actually put it in the mail. 47 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,660 They it was supposed to be delivered by TNT, which is kind 48 00:02:39,660 --> 00:02:43,560 of the, you know, FedEx type service in Europe. 49 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,439 And the story I read was it was put in the mail. 50 00:02:49,620 --> 00:02:52,560 I don't I have a feeling that it just got lost inside the 51 00:02:52,950 --> 00:02:56,400 incident inside some government mailroom, and it didn't actually 52 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,880 leave the building. But even so, I mean, to think that, you know, 53 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:02,640 this is the only disk that has ever been burned that this came 54 00:03:02,640 --> 00:03:05,370 from the only person who has access to those records. I mean, 55 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:10,230 there's not one single computer expert has been, you know, on TV 56 00:03:10,230 --> 00:03:13,200 or in a newspaper or anyone who actually knows how the 57 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:16,380 government records are handled, it's just all all it is, is it's 58 00:03:16,380 --> 00:03:20,520 big jokes about the missing CDs, of course, every everyone who 59 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:24,090 has a, an opportunity to do a joke about it on television or 60 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:28,890 the newspapers just continuously fool. But it has nothing to do 61 00:03:28,890 --> 00:03:32,460 with the actual data. I think it's it has everything to do 62 00:03:32,460 --> 00:03:35,790 with the national ID card. And the fact that this, of course, 63 00:03:35,790 --> 00:03:39,330 is what's coming out. Now these reports that identity fraud is a 64 00:03:39,330 --> 00:03:42,960 big deal, and that it's very easy to steal someone's identity 65 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:44,790 and go shopping on the internet. 66 00:03:46,319 --> 00:03:49,559 So your concern is about, they're going to have a national 67 00:03:49,559 --> 00:03:52,469 identity card and they're going to collect even more data in and 68 00:03:52,559 --> 00:03:55,319 out but they're so careless with this data that these people 69 00:03:55,319 --> 00:03:57,149 should be tarred and feathered. 70 00:03:57,180 --> 00:03:59,970 Exactly. So the bottom line is, you know, we can't trust the 71 00:03:59,970 --> 00:04:02,520 government with with our data. But I think that's what's really 72 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:04,770 going on here. Everyone's talking about it. That's front 73 00:04:04,770 --> 00:04:09,270 page along with, of course, Madeleine McCann, that just 74 00:04:09,270 --> 00:04:12,660 doesn't stop. You know, the seven year old kid who was 75 00:04:12,690 --> 00:04:16,320 abducted in from in Portugal. Yeah, where they think was 76 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,710 abducted doesn't stop the story has been in front page for it's 77 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:21,360 like six months already. 78 00:04:22,260 --> 00:04:25,380 Well, we fought against that story by by reintroducing our 79 00:04:25,380 --> 00:04:28,980 story about the girl who was who disappeared in Aruba. 80 00:04:29,730 --> 00:04:33,030 Oh, you're right, Holloway. That's right. That's the judge 81 00:04:33,030 --> 00:04:33,390 the Dutch 82 00:04:33,390 --> 00:04:35,280 by net story with our own material. 83 00:04:36,779 --> 00:04:40,649 We've we have a sexy chick who's been who's lost dammit. It's 84 00:04:40,649 --> 00:04:42,269 better than your young child. 85 00:04:43,649 --> 00:04:48,839 Exactly. So, you know, not to mention the fact that children 86 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:50,039 are missing daily. 87 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:54,480 There's 1000s and hundreds of 1000s of children you know, 88 00:04:54,510 --> 00:04:59,130 starving to death in in Africa. It's like, is this the only 89 00:04:59,130 --> 00:04:59,970 child that matters? 90 00:05:00,959 --> 00:05:04,679 Ya know, it's a funny thing that they do it. It's I remember, 91 00:05:04,679 --> 00:05:07,379 there was some actually during this Aruba thing when it first 92 00:05:07,379 --> 00:05:11,279 began, there was I remember some black woman coming in, you know, 93 00:05:11,309 --> 00:05:14,999 young mom who lost her girl who had been abducted by they think 94 00:05:14,999 --> 00:05:17,309 they knew who it was, and all the rest of it, but nobody even 95 00:05:17,309 --> 00:05:20,399 cared to do the story. You know, she was a poor woman in 96 00:05:20,399 --> 00:05:22,259 Tennessee or something like that. And it wasn't as 97 00:05:22,259 --> 00:05:25,649 interesting as some, you know, rich girl in a room, I mean, it 98 00:05:25,739 --> 00:05:28,079 but didn't get covered at all. And she said, You know, I got no 99 00:05:28,079 --> 00:05:31,409 attention. You know, it's weird the way they just focus on a few 100 00:05:31,409 --> 00:05:34,589 things that get, you know, they get promoted, it's almost like 101 00:05:34,589 --> 00:05:37,889 so a PR agent is somewhere in the back room of the news 102 00:05:37,889 --> 00:05:40,529 organisations. You know, there's a much better story for you as 103 00:05:40,529 --> 00:05:42,149 we get our circulation up. And 104 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,360 oh, that's exactly, exactly the way it's it's happening. There's 105 00:05:45,390 --> 00:05:48,150 no doubt about it. In fact, today, there was a story that 106 00:05:48,150 --> 00:05:50,700 came out about the McCanns. And there were several experts, of 107 00:05:50,700 --> 00:05:53,550 course, you know, new slant on the story saying, probably 108 00:05:53,550 --> 00:05:57,150 because the McCanns had money and they fund was started and 109 00:05:57,150 --> 00:06:00,240 people donated money, and they got a lot of attention. For that 110 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,270 very reason. The child is probably dead, because anyone 111 00:06:03,270 --> 00:06:05,100 who abducted the child would have just wanted to get rid of 112 00:06:05,100 --> 00:06:07,410 it and be done with the whole situation. So that's the new 113 00:06:07,410 --> 00:06:08,490 slant on the story. 114 00:06:09,959 --> 00:06:14,399 Yeah, well, is probably it's I mean, there's some logic to 115 00:06:14,399 --> 00:06:17,159 that. But you know, I don't think it's necessary that people 116 00:06:17,159 --> 00:06:22,769 were going to go from being not murderers to being murderers 117 00:06:22,769 --> 00:06:26,429 just because of some new thing. But I, but I'm sure it gives 118 00:06:26,429 --> 00:06:27,689 everybody all enraged. 119 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:32,160 Yeah, it's it just enrages me. I feel really bad for the family. 120 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:36,600 And yeah, it really sucks. But this this cannot remain front 121 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,490 page news. This is dumb. 122 00:06:40,110 --> 00:06:42,840 Yeah, well, what I mean, I don't know, you know, this is this 123 00:06:42,840 --> 00:06:46,290 happened, I think the real trend or I'm reminded of the days when 124 00:06:46,290 --> 00:06:49,860 I was working for MSNBC, on a show that they established when 125 00:06:49,860 --> 00:06:53,160 Microsoft first bought the company, or I mean, first formed 126 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,070 the company with NBC. That's what MS stands for. A lot of 127 00:06:56,070 --> 00:06:58,770 people have long since forgotten. I mean, I remember I 128 00:06:58,770 --> 00:07:02,130 was there. And so they started this thing up. And then they 129 00:07:02,130 --> 00:07:03,990 wanted to do because Microsoft was involved. They want to do 130 00:07:03,990 --> 00:07:06,900 some tech stuff. So they did this, this this show called the 131 00:07:06,900 --> 00:07:12,540 site. And the site starred Soledad O'Brien. And she was on 132 00:07:12,540 --> 00:07:16,230 the facts fast track to become a NBC news anchor. And so they 133 00:07:16,230 --> 00:07:20,850 gave her this gig. So she could like do a little practice. 134 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,450 Although she eventually she got sidelined by some other ethnic 135 00:07:24,570 --> 00:07:28,110 looking woman. And ended up having I think she went to see 136 00:07:28,110 --> 00:07:29,820 an ad or something like that, but solely that was really a 137 00:07:29,820 --> 00:07:32,370 nice, one of the nicest people I've ever mentioned. So 138 00:07:32,430 --> 00:07:34,950 hopefully, she'll, she'll get back on the fast track. I don't 139 00:07:34,950 --> 00:07:36,660 know why they took her off of it. But that happens all the 140 00:07:36,660 --> 00:07:41,130 time. Not to change the subject. But we have a woman here in KPI 141 00:07:41,130 --> 00:07:46,560 X, who used to be network. It's CBS and then Dana king. And I 142 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:50,070 saw her when she was doing some network stuff. And she had like, 143 00:07:50,100 --> 00:07:54,510 big time news personality written all over her. She 144 00:07:54,510 --> 00:07:58,590 apparently did something amiss. And then they they gave her the 145 00:07:58,590 --> 00:08:02,790 signing or to the local owned and operated affiliate sites, 146 00:08:02,820 --> 00:08:07,230 you know, the, the KPI X station as a news anchor here is kind of 147 00:08:07,230 --> 00:08:09,840 punishment. And has she been stuck here ever since now? I 148 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,750 don't think she can ever break away. But she was like, you 149 00:08:12,750 --> 00:08:16,500 know, this is where the show business thing is, is 150 00:08:16,590 --> 00:08:21,630 disconcerning But back to the MS NBC story. So anyway, they had 151 00:08:21,630 --> 00:08:24,840 to show that they developed because Microsoft's pushing them 152 00:08:24,990 --> 00:08:29,160 called the site and it had sold as anchor and I did some work 153 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,350 going on there. And Leo Laporte had a segment and we did some 154 00:08:31,350 --> 00:08:34,140 debates, and it's the same, you know, usual suspects, 155 00:08:34,170 --> 00:08:36,570 you guys are such media horrors, you'll do anything? 156 00:08:36,990 --> 00:08:39,780 Well, you know, they were paying us Okay, anyways, 157 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,390 unlike unlike prostitutes, they were paying you 158 00:08:43,529 --> 00:08:47,609 well, that you made a good point. Anyway, so, you know, 159 00:08:47,609 --> 00:08:51,119 it's like, what's the difference? So anyway, did they 160 00:08:51,149 --> 00:08:55,079 Diana got killed, as you recall. Yeah. Princess Diana. And they 161 00:08:55,079 --> 00:09:00,389 started covering it 24/7 With pretty meaningless coverage on 162 00:09:00,389 --> 00:09:04,229 MSNBC. And their ratings went through the roof. Sure, of 163 00:09:04,229 --> 00:09:08,189 course they did. Yep. And so they killed this killed this 164 00:09:08,189 --> 00:09:12,119 site. And they killed every other thing that they that was 165 00:09:12,149 --> 00:09:15,719 like celebrity you know, but kissing whatever you want to 166 00:09:15,719 --> 00:09:18,989 call it kind of programming. And of course the site you know, the 167 00:09:18,989 --> 00:09:21,809 place has never recovered and they because you can't keep 168 00:09:21,809 --> 00:09:25,889 covering Diana forever. They tried and and they went right 169 00:09:25,889 --> 00:09:28,469 back into the dumper that it was in to begin with and then 170 00:09:28,469 --> 00:09:31,709 meanwhile, they throw out any possible interesting properties 171 00:09:31,709 --> 00:09:37,019 that they had started anyway that this kind of decision 172 00:09:37,079 --> 00:09:40,019 making at this kind of level is always been disconcerting to me. 173 00:09:40,439 --> 00:09:44,099 It's Have you ever read the society of the spectacle? 174 00:09:44,910 --> 00:09:50,100 And by the way, just do a punch line to that last story. We 175 00:09:50,100 --> 00:09:55,500 would have covered Diane if they'd let us Fuck yeah. No, I I 176 00:09:55,500 --> 00:09:59,190 don't think we would have gotten a ratings way up. So no, I 177 00:09:59,190 --> 00:10:00,660 didn't read that. I do 178 00:10:00,660 --> 00:10:05,100 have this shipped and I'm working here we go. Oh, there 179 00:10:05,100 --> 00:10:09,480 you go. That's the point. We got a we got a phone call. You want 180 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:11,820 to hear some feedback because I don't know who this the people 181 00:10:11,820 --> 00:10:17,880 are. This guy's talking about what to listen. Hello? Yeah, 182 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:18,300 here we go. 183 00:10:18,900 --> 00:10:23,070 Adam Hey moose in Lawrenceville, California here I just finished 184 00:10:23,070 --> 00:10:28,530 listening to no agenda for and fired up. DSP six Niner zero. 185 00:10:30,060 --> 00:10:35,550 Want to tell you man, you and John Dvorak hit it off so 186 00:10:35,550 --> 00:10:40,200 perfectly. Like you guys have been talking with each other. 187 00:10:40,740 --> 00:10:46,890 For the last 2030 years as a as a talk, radio gene, we we have a 188 00:10:46,890 --> 00:10:50,490 local team like that, that actually simulcasts in the Bay 189 00:10:50,490 --> 00:10:58,170 Area. A local radio station, and she guys hit it off equally as 190 00:10:58,170 --> 00:11:00,510 well as they do. I don't know if you've listened to him. They're, 191 00:11:00,870 --> 00:11:05,040 they're on here in the Bay Area and in the Bay Area from six 192 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:09,690 till 10am. But just want to tell you, man, 193 00:11:09,929 --> 00:11:12,839 I thought he actually would tell us who they were thinking my 194 00:11:13,469 --> 00:11:13,979 message and 195 00:11:14,939 --> 00:11:19,319 this up, and you need to get a good theme for that. I don't 196 00:11:19,319 --> 00:11:22,229 care if you say there's no theme. You need a good 197 00:11:22,500 --> 00:11:25,140 crab. I'm sorry, John. I thought he actually mentioned who he was 198 00:11:25,140 --> 00:11:26,370 talking about it No idea. 199 00:11:26,910 --> 00:11:29,910 Well, you know, there's a million teams that work from six 200 00:11:29,910 --> 00:11:33,210 to 10am. Because you know, someone willing to stay awake? 201 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,640 Yeah. We 202 00:11:37,770 --> 00:11:40,290 know what makes us work together. Timing. 203 00:11:43,230 --> 00:11:50,580 Indeed, I got the Nokia and 10 Ah, you would oh my goodness, 204 00:11:50,610 --> 00:11:54,120 this thing is disclaimer, by the way. Well, I'm hoping to get 205 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:57,450 have pod show people to sell these at some beautiful 206 00:11:57,450 --> 00:12:02,460 discount, just like our GoDaddy stuff. But I wouldn't sell it if 207 00:12:02,460 --> 00:12:05,070 I didn't really like it. This thing is fucking amazing. It's 208 00:12:05,070 --> 00:12:10,140 very close to what it has to be. Why? Well, I'll tell you why. 209 00:12:10,140 --> 00:12:14,910 Because the web browser really does everything. And when I mean 210 00:12:14,910 --> 00:12:18,270 everything, it's Gmail, including the shortcuts, it's 211 00:12:18,270 --> 00:12:21,960 got a slide out keyboard. So you can hit the J key and they'll go 212 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:27,840 to I'm a big gmail user. And docks works as well, perfectly. 213 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:31,590 You know, it's fast. It just you know how it's hard to explain. 214 00:12:31,590 --> 00:12:34,260 But you know how Windows Mobile particularly just feels kind of 215 00:12:34,290 --> 00:12:38,340 like a loose bucket of nuts and bolts, you know, the way that 216 00:12:38,340 --> 00:12:42,120 Windows pop open and how buttons react and 217 00:12:43,170 --> 00:12:46,140 you just have, it was written in forth. Yeah, 218 00:12:46,170 --> 00:12:50,550 it's a bit like the difference between a Mac and Windows, there 219 00:12:50,550 --> 00:12:53,850 is something in the way the user interface functions that just 220 00:12:53,850 --> 00:12:56,730 makes it feel better. I can't quite explain what it is. But 221 00:12:56,730 --> 00:13:00,210 there's, with the Mac, it always feels snappier, 222 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:04,500 snappier, smoother, a little more sophisticated. So I was a 223 00:13:04,500 --> 00:13:08,790 big user of the n 800. And this 810 is literally that that kind 224 00:13:08,790 --> 00:13:12,000 of difference. And it also looks nice. It's you know, has kind of 225 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,210 an executive sheen to it now. It's just amazing. 226 00:13:16,350 --> 00:13:17,400 What did they sell for? 227 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:22,050 It's expensive. I think it's like 450 bucks. Not cheap at 228 00:13:22,050 --> 00:13:22,440 all. 229 00:13:23,220 --> 00:13:27,660 I use Berners. Lee's Trac phones, Virgin Mobile, those 230 00:13:27,660 --> 00:13:29,400 kinds of things, that things you can throw away the things you 231 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:31,740 have to worry about losing if you leave it on the plane. Who 232 00:13:31,740 --> 00:13:32,100 cares? 233 00:13:32,130 --> 00:13:34,650 By the way, this isn't a phone. It's only it's an internet 234 00:13:34,650 --> 00:13:38,310 tablet, there's no phone built into it. It's just Wi Fi. You 235 00:13:38,310 --> 00:13:41,280 can Oh, it's just yeah, it's there's no phone at all. 236 00:13:42,179 --> 00:13:44,489 Okay, I've seen pictures, right. I just I think we may have 237 00:13:44,489 --> 00:13:47,399 blogged this. I saw pictures of this thing recently. Right, 238 00:13:47,399 --> 00:13:49,739 right, right. Right. Right. It's like a really small tablet. 239 00:13:50,460 --> 00:13:53,850 And it's, it's built on it's built on Linux. So it's open 240 00:13:53,850 --> 00:13:56,100 source and you can build whatever you want. And you know, 241 00:13:56,100 --> 00:13:59,190 Python runs on it. So interesting. People are creating 242 00:13:59,220 --> 00:14:02,790 interesting applications that of course open source and you know, 243 00:14:02,790 --> 00:14:06,060 are you gonna go no, you get you get what you pay for. But what 244 00:14:06,060 --> 00:14:08,310 they've done a lot though, they're seeding a lot of the of 245 00:14:08,310 --> 00:14:11,850 this application development and the basics. They had expecting 246 00:14:11,850 --> 00:14:16,350 I'd have Skype it has, as I said, it has the perfect Mozilla 247 00:14:16,350 --> 00:14:19,770 compatible browser. So you know, Gmail reader, another thing that 248 00:14:19,770 --> 00:14:23,100 I use a lot, you can use the full blown version is it that's 249 00:14:23,100 --> 00:14:25,290 pretty hot shit. I mean, that's really all that I wanted. It's 250 00:14:25,290 --> 00:14:28,530 just to have a real web browser that I can really use anywhere. 251 00:14:28,770 --> 00:14:31,320 to slip it in my pocket. I'm amazed by this. 252 00:14:31,799 --> 00:14:34,139 I'm gonna have to get one including flash. 253 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:37,860 It does flash at night when you pop open, like the pod show.com 254 00:14:37,860 --> 00:14:40,830 dashboard. You know, the videos will play right in the browser 255 00:14:40,830 --> 00:14:43,560 right on the screen. So the iPhone doesn't even do that. 256 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,660 I'm gonna have to get one to two is the screen bigger than the 257 00:14:48,660 --> 00:14:50,160 iPhone screen? Hold on. 258 00:14:50,190 --> 00:14:53,160 I have both of them here. Let me check Hold on one second. I just 259 00:14:53,220 --> 00:15:03,180 move over to this mic. Oh, I'm Now overlaying one on top of the 260 00:15:03,180 --> 00:15:10,230 other. Oh, yeah. Oh, the screen is probably an inch wider on the 261 00:15:10,260 --> 00:15:14,370 810. But it's small. But the iPhone itself isn't that much 262 00:15:14,370 --> 00:15:18,360 smaller than the na 10. I mean, it would if it was, it would fit 263 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,960 right into it, basically. But the screen real estate on the 264 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:26,700 810 is definitely bigger. It's nice. I'm really well impressed. 265 00:15:27,690 --> 00:15:31,470 I'll have to get hold of all the one. You coming into town next 266 00:15:31,470 --> 00:15:31,800 week? 267 00:15:31,830 --> 00:15:35,130 Yeah, actually, I'm flying out tomorrow. So I'll be answering 268 00:15:35,130 --> 00:15:35,670 the phone. 269 00:15:36,690 --> 00:15:37,530 I'll bring that this. Of 270 00:15:37,530 --> 00:15:40,140 course. I'm gonna bring it of course. I'm gonna it has GPS in 271 00:15:40,140 --> 00:15:41,700 it too. Which is neat. 272 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,780 Yes, the black helicopters can track you. Hey, what's 273 00:15:45,780 --> 00:15:49,200 up with the? Yeah, right? What's up with Pakistan? 274 00:15:50,730 --> 00:15:52,740 What a mess that places. What is it 275 00:15:52,740 --> 00:15:56,100 really? How can we how can the US isn't doing anything? Is our 276 00:15:56,100 --> 00:15:59,850 administration basically keeping, keeping this guy in 277 00:15:59,850 --> 00:16:02,700 place and agreeing with everything? Because it's better 278 00:16:02,700 --> 00:16:06,780 to know the dictator than not know the dictator? 279 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:09,990 Well, you know, if you read enough of the documentation over 280 00:16:09,990 --> 00:16:12,600 the years of our relationship with Pakistan, we've always 281 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,630 given them a lot more money when they had a dictator. And then 282 00:16:15,630 --> 00:16:18,990 when they had someone elected. Yeah, and I don't think that we 283 00:16:18,990 --> 00:16:22,080 liked the situation because it looks pretty, you know, it looks 284 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:26,160 onerous, but I'm sure a lot of backchannel grousing going on, 285 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,290 and they're trying to, you know, but Musharraf, it looks like 286 00:16:28,290 --> 00:16:30,840 he's going to do what he's going to do. And what choice do we 287 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:35,130 have? You know, except the bomb. I mean, we're not gonna do that. 288 00:16:35,190 --> 00:16:38,010 No, but it feels like it feels like a setup where, you know, 289 00:16:38,010 --> 00:16:41,580 there's gotta be all kinds of crap going on in Pakistan. And 290 00:16:41,580 --> 00:16:44,100 then of course, fingers are gonna be pointed at Iran, 291 00:16:44,250 --> 00:16:46,590 because there'll be all kinds of people crossing in and out of 292 00:16:46,590 --> 00:16:48,990 the border, and they'll be all kinds of claims and all kinds of 293 00:16:48,990 --> 00:16:51,960 proof and testimony and satellite pictures you watch. 294 00:16:52,260 --> 00:16:56,790 And then we're gonna go and bomb the Iran nuclear facility. Yeah, 295 00:16:56,790 --> 00:16:59,370 I know, that seems to be in the cards, but it seems like the 296 00:16:59,370 --> 00:16:59,880 setup 297 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:04,080 man it just it's I don't know, it seems clear to me and see 298 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:07,620 it's so raw. It's so fucking wrong. Well, usually, 299 00:17:07,619 --> 00:17:11,759 if it's clear to you, Adam is not what it is. The American 300 00:17:12,269 --> 00:17:17,999 subterfuges tend to be to trick you, me too, by the way, and 301 00:17:17,999 --> 00:17:20,189 everybody else into thinking one thing and then having something 302 00:17:20,189 --> 00:17:23,099 else happen because it seems to me that everybody can 303 00:17:23,099 --> 00:17:25,349 deconstructed so easily is obviously know what's what's 304 00:17:25,349 --> 00:17:27,269 actually taking place? Well, yes 305 00:17:27,270 --> 00:17:30,600 and no, because as a as a pilot, as an airman, you know, the 306 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:34,080 first thing you learn is, you know, look for the big things on 307 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:39,210 the map. So, you know, one of the in all early training of all 308 00:17:39,210 --> 00:17:42,000 people who want to learn how to fly your instructor will put 309 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,250 down a map and say, Okay, we're gonna go from this point to that 310 00:17:44,250 --> 00:17:47,250 point, tell me what obstructions are in our path and of course 311 00:17:47,250 --> 00:17:51,360 what you do is you look at all the electricity masts and you 312 00:17:51,360 --> 00:17:54,390 know any radio towers and look at the height and see if you're 313 00:17:54,390 --> 00:17:57,510 gonna be okay and then you know, invariably the the instructor 314 00:17:57,510 --> 00:17:59,250 and says, Well, how about this big fucking mountain you're 315 00:17:59,250 --> 00:18:01,740 about to fly right into you didn't see that? And of course, 316 00:18:01,830 --> 00:18:05,280 the most obvious things you said you don't always see so I'm, I'm 317 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:09,090 kind of trained to look at at big things and and I think that 318 00:18:09,540 --> 00:18:12,780 the quite the opposite of what you're saying is that you know, 319 00:18:12,780 --> 00:18:16,320 the it these guys in the administration become so bold, 320 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:18,690 it's just easier to do it right out in the open and make up a 321 00:18:18,690 --> 00:18:20,820 different story and create a diversion for that. 322 00:18:21,750 --> 00:18:25,980 It's a good thing. It's good thinking it's possible. I mean, 323 00:18:25,980 --> 00:18:28,440 I'm not saying that's impossible. I'm just not seeing 324 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:31,410 as bombing Iran, to be honest about I mean, it is it looks 325 00:18:31,410 --> 00:18:34,470 like it's in the cards, but that says to me, it's not going to 326 00:18:34,470 --> 00:18:38,220 happen. I don't think they're they're not doing the build up 327 00:18:38,220 --> 00:18:40,140 the same way they did with these other things. There's not enough 328 00:18:40,140 --> 00:18:42,780 phoney baloney information coming out. I know what you're 329 00:18:42,780 --> 00:18:45,270 saying is show some satellite data and all the rest of it, but 330 00:18:45,750 --> 00:18:49,560 I think the Iranians are aware of this kind of trickery, and I 331 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,200 think they're going to do everything they can to keep keep 332 00:18:52,230 --> 00:18:54,750 from getting bombed. I don't think they particularly want to 333 00:18:54,750 --> 00:18:57,690 be bombed. I mean, it seems to me 334 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:04,140 you think Damn, everyone's really everyone's really 335 00:19:04,140 --> 00:19:08,190 disappointed here and in Britain, John, because we've 336 00:19:08,190 --> 00:19:13,500 been kicked out of the euro 2008 football competition. Why? Well 337 00:19:13,500 --> 00:19:16,860 because the team sucked and well of course the manager is why he 338 00:19:16,860 --> 00:19:21,510 got fired the day after but but to not qualify and get kicked 339 00:19:21,510 --> 00:19:24,960 out this early it's a real it's a real national tragedy 340 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,420 everyone's you know depressed about it. 341 00:19:28,410 --> 00:19:31,410 With all those pro with those pro leagues, and all those pro 342 00:19:31,410 --> 00:19:34,830 players you have in that country if you couldn't put a crummy 343 00:19:34,830 --> 00:19:37,050 team together they could just qualify exactly 344 00:19:37,050 --> 00:19:39,780 and this of course is the debate you know, it's like what what is 345 00:19:39,780 --> 00:19:42,450 Beckham worth? You know, he came back he played I think second 346 00:19:42,450 --> 00:19:44,460 half and that's exactly it. You know, 347 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,460 it's like American basketball players not getting into the 348 00:19:47,460 --> 00:19:48,030 Olympics. 349 00:19:48,060 --> 00:19:54,510 Yeah, but they're way overpaid. To funny thing about the about 350 00:19:54,510 --> 00:20:01,230 the game. Tony Henry is I guess it's an opera singer, an English 351 00:20:01,260 --> 00:20:04,590 opera singer, and he was tasked with singing the national 352 00:20:04,590 --> 00:20:10,830 anthem. It was a game was here and think Wembley. And so we 353 00:20:10,830 --> 00:20:14,850 sang the Croatian. Is it the Croatian Croat? Croatian? 354 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:18,930 Croatian anthem, quote? Croat. Well, anyway, that'd be the 355 00:20:18,930 --> 00:20:22,260 Croatian anthem would have to be. So he made a mistake in the 356 00:20:22,260 --> 00:20:26,910 lyrics in front of in front of 80,000 people. So here it is 357 00:20:26,910 --> 00:20:31,500 from a BBC report. He should have sung Mila CUDA, C Planina. 358 00:20:31,950 --> 00:20:34,770 which roughly means, you know, my dear how we love your 359 00:20:34,770 --> 00:20:39,060 mountains. But instead he's saying, Mila cootie see plenty 360 00:20:39,060 --> 00:20:43,440 now. Which can be interpreted as my dear, my penis is a mountain. 361 00:20:47,190 --> 00:20:54,690 Wow, that's great. No wonder we lost. Man, idiots. 362 00:20:57,060 --> 00:20:59,400 I always get the thing. Somebody's chain made a change. 363 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,220 I mean, it's almost like the guy. You know, there's all 364 00:21:02,310 --> 00:21:05,100 there's always these stories and fight. I know, it's doable. 365 00:21:05,340 --> 00:21:08,670 People who get in broadcasting who get really reliant on a 366 00:21:08,670 --> 00:21:12,630 teleprompter? Oh, yeah, you can slip in some stuff in there. And 367 00:21:12,660 --> 00:21:14,820 they'll just read it, you know, because they're just so used to 368 00:21:14,820 --> 00:21:18,120 reading robot like that, they'll just read whatever it is, and I 369 00:21:18,120 --> 00:21:21,150 am an idiot, I'll be back as it that I am and a half and, you 370 00:21:21,150 --> 00:21:21,750 know, whatever. 371 00:21:21,990 --> 00:21:25,440 I got really good at teleprompter, my MTV years. I 372 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,020 mean, you could you could literally be writing it by hand 373 00:21:28,020 --> 00:21:31,140 underneath neon, because the old teleprompters they weren't 374 00:21:31,170 --> 00:21:33,690 computer screens that were literally there was a camera 375 00:21:34,140 --> 00:21:37,950 that was positioned right over a conveyor belt. And that had the 376 00:21:37,950 --> 00:21:42,060 scripts that were printed out aligned specially for the shot. 377 00:21:42,330 --> 00:21:44,640 And there was a guy who would literally turn this little end 378 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:48,120 little controller and it would control the speed of the motor. 379 00:21:48,930 --> 00:21:51,450 So during live broadcasts, you know they would be right and 380 00:21:51,450 --> 00:21:53,850 shit in there was notes all over the place. And you know, 381 00:21:53,850 --> 00:21:56,310 whatever showed up, I could just interpret and I could just say 382 00:21:56,310 --> 00:22:01,680 it, it's it is it's, it's like a Vulcan mind trick almost. 383 00:22:02,369 --> 00:22:05,999 Yeah. Pretty funny. But the weird thing for I don't want to 384 00:22:05,999 --> 00:22:08,429 get into too much inside baseball or for people don't 385 00:22:08,669 --> 00:22:11,489 ever do any of this kind of work. But the weird ones we have 386 00:22:11,489 --> 00:22:14,219 the teleprompter rolling on the one hand and you have an eye FB 387 00:22:14,219 --> 00:22:16,559 in your ear, which is that little squiggly thing you see. 388 00:22:16,949 --> 00:22:20,039 And and the yelling at you about some one other thing while 389 00:22:20,039 --> 00:22:23,669 you're trying to read and you have to like squeeze in other 390 00:22:23,669 --> 00:22:26,099 information, it gets quite complicated. And you can see 391 00:22:26,099 --> 00:22:29,519 when people get flustered drunk on television, but my all time 392 00:22:29,519 --> 00:22:32,759 favourite screw up with this sort of situation was one time I 393 00:22:32,759 --> 00:22:36,629 was shooting at the Tech TV plays. I know I've got some 394 00:22:36,689 --> 00:22:39,839 these anecdotes today. But anyway, Tech TV, and I'm doing 395 00:22:39,839 --> 00:22:42,839 this show. So like gun spin while Leo is doing a show in the 396 00:22:42,839 --> 00:22:47,969 other studio. And we're at the exact same time moment. So I'm 397 00:22:47,969 --> 00:22:50,759 going to set the same clock, so we're gonna go to break at the 398 00:22:50,759 --> 00:22:53,399 same time and everything else. So I start my show. And as soon 399 00:22:53,399 --> 00:22:55,829 as I start my show, I'm hearing his show in my ear. 400 00:22:56,730 --> 00:22:57,600 Like crowd they miss 401 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:03,390 out loud. And so he's energy and I'm trying to get I'm getting a 402 00:23:03,390 --> 00:23:06,000 little you know what, I'm having enough trouble reading the 403 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,910 prompter with this noise in my ear. And then I finally go to 404 00:23:08,910 --> 00:23:11,550 the break. I said this screw deputy I don't have the control 405 00:23:11,550 --> 00:23:14,070 room. I've got the Leo show. And they all listen to nothing. 406 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,220 Because they're on the same commercial break we're on right 407 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,880 now. There's nothing there's no problem. And so we go right back 408 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:25,590 to the show and boom, video against screaming in my ear. So 409 00:23:25,950 --> 00:23:27,510 the movie going 410 00:23:27,510 --> 00:23:31,020 back to the launch of MSNBC. I was actually there because 411 00:23:31,020 --> 00:23:36,000 Microsoft. This was just before they launched comic chat. And 412 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,130 they couldn't quite get it working. And it wouldn't scale. 413 00:23:38,130 --> 00:23:39,150 So they hired 414 00:23:39,180 --> 00:23:41,700 member count. Yeah, comic chat. That was another big mine. 415 00:23:43,140 --> 00:23:47,490 So they hired my company. It was still on ramp then to do a chat. 416 00:23:47,490 --> 00:23:50,820 And we basically set up like a, you know, Linux based command 417 00:23:50,820 --> 00:23:53,670 line chat room with little web GUI on top of it. So it was 418 00:23:53,670 --> 00:23:59,040 pretty robust. But it was who was it? Who was interviewing 419 00:23:59,100 --> 00:24:04,260 Bill Clinton? Tom was a Tom Brokaw. I think now that 420 00:24:04,260 --> 00:24:06,480 wouldn't it? That's probably maybe it was Yeah. Tom Brokaw 421 00:24:06,810 --> 00:24:10,020 and he was interviewing Clinton and I was sitting in the control 422 00:24:10,020 --> 00:24:14,670 room and I was just amazed at how he could be. Almost he was 423 00:24:14,670 --> 00:24:18,480 almost moving Clinton through this through his answer just 424 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,540 with his body language, because the producer was continuously 425 00:24:21,540 --> 00:24:23,640 saying okay, now you've got to get him to wrap this up. And we 426 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,730 have one more question. You have 28 seconds left until break and 427 00:24:26,730 --> 00:24:29,910 so while Brokaw is, is communicating through body 428 00:24:29,910 --> 00:24:33,180 language with Clinton, you know, then he's he interjects with one 429 00:24:33,180 --> 00:24:36,060 final question. We like 17 seconds to go and the producers 430 00:24:36,060 --> 00:24:39,510 literally counting it down as he's doing his outro into the 431 00:24:39,510 --> 00:24:41,820 break. It was the most astounding thing I've ever seen 432 00:24:41,820 --> 00:24:45,360 man was just fucking genius. That's why he got paid the big 433 00:24:45,360 --> 00:24:50,010 bucks. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. The people who were on QVC do it 434 00:24:50,010 --> 00:24:53,400 as well. You watch if you you know, because the what they're 435 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,230 doing they're they're continuously monitoring the 436 00:24:55,230 --> 00:24:58,800 sales numbers, and they'll see an item do really well and then 437 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,230 you'll be like, Okay, we're gonna stay on This and talk more 438 00:25:01,230 --> 00:25:03,870 about the colour or what you know they're continuously giving 439 00:25:03,870 --> 00:25:07,920 the host cues in their in their ear and their eye FB and it's 440 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,590 really how they fine tune their sales. It's also an amazing 441 00:25:10,590 --> 00:25:11,610 process to watch. 442 00:25:12,719 --> 00:25:14,519 Yeah, actually, I've always wanted to see that but you can 443 00:25:14,519 --> 00:25:18,179 see him doing it. What's amazing those talking heads that are on 444 00:25:18,179 --> 00:25:20,849 those sales channels because they just blabbering blabber, 445 00:25:20,849 --> 00:25:24,029 then it's nonstop chat. Yeah, yeah. And it's got a really 446 00:25:24,029 --> 00:25:26,879 interesting colour because it's a it's a unusual version of 447 00:25:26,879 --> 00:25:30,239 taupe. Don't you think? Lois? Yes, it hasn't been what kind of 448 00:25:30,239 --> 00:25:32,399 like, I think we know what it reminds me of fall fashion. 449 00:25:32,399 --> 00:25:35,069 2005, don't you think? Yeah, exactly. Exactly. 450 00:25:35,100 --> 00:25:38,370 That brings us back to our story from last week about Marie 451 00:25:38,370 --> 00:25:43,320 Osmond where I wish I had a copy of the I don't have it handy. 452 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,830 Anyway, we were talking about. You asked me if I thought it was 453 00:25:46,830 --> 00:25:50,910 possible. Maria Osman might have orchestrated this big blow up on 454 00:25:50,910 --> 00:25:55,350 Larry King and actually before that, her fainting on Dancing 455 00:25:55,350 --> 00:25:59,190 with the Stars. And I and I asked Patricia right after the 456 00:25:59,190 --> 00:26:00,120 show. If I 457 00:26:00,810 --> 00:26:03,810 wait more backgrounder here. I said it was possible. You said 458 00:26:03,810 --> 00:26:07,170 there was no way that that could ever be done. There's no that's 459 00:26:07,170 --> 00:26:09,450 not the way it works is what you said. Just to give people 460 00:26:09,450 --> 00:26:09,870 background. 461 00:26:10,020 --> 00:26:13,710 Yeah. But then I remember specifically, John, you said, Do 462 00:26:13,710 --> 00:26:19,170 you think she is capable? And I paused and I said, I don't think 463 00:26:19,170 --> 00:26:23,040 so. But let me ask Patricia right. 464 00:26:23,580 --> 00:26:24,780 Yeah, I guess Okay, 465 00:26:24,780 --> 00:26:29,640 thank you. Thank you. As she she without, without even hesitating 466 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,840 for a second said absolutely. She is the most cunning woman in 467 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:38,820 showbusiness. Like even even the things that I saw her faint, so 468 00:26:38,850 --> 00:26:42,030 she was laying there so pretty. That was not a normal person 469 00:26:42,030 --> 00:26:44,130 fainting. She doesn't even buy that part. 470 00:26:45,090 --> 00:26:48,120 Yeah, no, I thought the whole thing was, uh, but you know, 471 00:26:48,120 --> 00:26:50,790 she, she never I mean, let's face it, these two people both. 472 00:26:51,300 --> 00:26:53,880 I mean, I met Donnie too. And he's a really nice guy. And I 473 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:55,800 guess she's probably a really nice person too, but doesn't 474 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,890 mean that that they're, you know, that they don't know that 475 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,620 job is mavens man. Yeah. It's 476 00:27:01,620 --> 00:27:05,730 a showbiz family. They know all the tricks. Yeah. And they don't 477 00:27:05,730 --> 00:27:08,370 overdo it. I mean, you'd haven't seen much sense. I mean, had a 478 00:27:08,370 --> 00:27:11,430 little blast, and, you know, got a few books sold and got her 479 00:27:11,430 --> 00:27:13,950 mentioned on her shopping channel. And you know, she's 480 00:27:13,950 --> 00:27:14,790 fine. Yeah, she's 481 00:27:14,790 --> 00:27:17,640 good. She's good. We got about three, four minutes, John, you 482 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:18,150 got anything. 483 00:27:19,410 --> 00:27:22,080 Now, you know, in fact, that was looking at the blog to see if 484 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,900 there's anything that came up in the recent stories that some 485 00:27:24,900 --> 00:27:27,960 guys are bringing down. I did find it interesting. There was a 486 00:27:28,710 --> 00:27:31,680 if people can check this out, it was posted on the 24th. Whenever 487 00:27:31,890 --> 00:27:36,060 you hear the show, 24th of November, some just read about 488 00:27:36,060 --> 00:27:39,030 this. There's a couple of American cosmologists, you know, 489 00:27:39,030 --> 00:27:42,300 guys who study this kind of deep physics, investigating the 490 00:27:42,300 --> 00:27:45,510 consequences of the cosmos of quantum theory, the most 491 00:27:45,510 --> 00:27:48,150 successful theory, blah, blah, blah. And they said, there's an 492 00:27:48,150 --> 00:27:51,330 odd feature of the theory that philosophers and scientists 493 00:27:51,330 --> 00:27:54,240 still argue about. And in a nutshell, the theory suggests 494 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:59,010 that we change things simply by looking at them. And theorists 495 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,710 have puzzled over the implications of this. So in 496 00:28:01,710 --> 00:28:03,450 other words, there's thinking, you know, you look into that, 497 00:28:03,450 --> 00:28:05,820 especially watching something blow up, you're actually somehow 498 00:28:06,360 --> 00:28:08,760 because of quantum theory, you're making it happen. You're 499 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,000 making it happen. Now, it makes sense. When you go to Oakland, 500 00:28:12,120 --> 00:28:14,010 and these big black guys you look at and say, What are you 501 00:28:14,010 --> 00:28:16,110 looking at? Because they know that you're, you're screwing 502 00:28:16,110 --> 00:28:24,780 with them? Just by looking at him. Okay, John. Nice, my story. 503 00:28:24,810 --> 00:28:28,260 You better you better be sticking to it. We should have a 504 00:28:28,290 --> 00:28:30,540 What are you looking at? website? 505 00:28:31,110 --> 00:28:32,820 And what are we going to do this week? I got like, 506 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,640 Oh my Wait, let me give you one more story. I gotta bring this 507 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:39,870 up. Not I think about it now. Okay. Okay, now, you got to go 508 00:28:39,870 --> 00:28:44,520 to a John Walker's the guy who started auto CAD Autodesk, 509 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:48,120 right. Okay. And he moved to Switzerland some years ago, for 510 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,970 whatever reason, in beginning in the gave up his American 511 00:28:50,970 --> 00:28:54,570 citizens ship in the Swiss, and he has a really weird website 512 00:28:54,570 --> 00:28:56,760 that you're gonna have to do some research to find his call 513 00:28:56,790 --> 00:29:02,490 for any lab or something like that. it.ch. And he has a he has 514 00:29:02,490 --> 00:29:07,050 his there's a theory about some sort of can is some sort of 515 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,350 reverse time Kinesis. And he has a whole bunch of information 516 00:29:10,350 --> 00:29:13,170 about this. And which says something. And I don't know the 517 00:29:13,170 --> 00:29:16,260 exact name of the thing because I wasn't prepared. But it goes 518 00:29:16,260 --> 00:29:20,760 like this. If I don't know the college score of a game that 519 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:25,320 just ended and I meditate long enough that it's a certain 520 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,350 score. And then I finally go look up the score, it will be 521 00:29:28,350 --> 00:29:34,050 that score. I will have changed the score in time in the space 522 00:29:34,050 --> 00:29:34,890 time continuum. 523 00:29:36,540 --> 00:29:40,290 I'm all for that. I got some meditating. I'm looking at it 524 00:29:40,290 --> 00:29:43,380 right now. It's for me lab.ch. 525 00:29:44,129 --> 00:29:47,579 That's it. So but anyway, so I'm thinking like when I read this 526 00:29:47,579 --> 00:29:50,969 thing about quantum theory, and it's the effect of you look at 527 00:29:50,969 --> 00:29:53,549 something, you change it, I'm thinking hey, maybe it's 528 00:29:53,549 --> 00:29:55,829 possible. You know, I could do you know, we could do some with 529 00:29:55,829 --> 00:29:58,139 the University of California bears perhaps but unfortunately, 530 00:29:58,139 --> 00:29:59,969 you already know the score, so it's too late. 531 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:05,790 So why don't we do something really big and have a medication 532 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,780 but we don't we have to not know what it what happened in the 533 00:30:09,780 --> 00:30:13,980 first place and make it happen some funny way read the article 534 00:30:14,130 --> 00:30:18,450 that he has posted there on this crazy idea. And I think it's 535 00:30:18,450 --> 00:30:21,150 crackpot by the way for anyone who out there really wants to 536 00:30:21,150 --> 00:30:25,200 know how I feel it's not but I think it's it's kind of fun 537 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:25,740 that's 538 00:30:25,890 --> 00:30:28,920 a way to do it. Where do I find this on this site? Because I see 539 00:30:30,150 --> 00:30:32,430 this is his website. Is that what this is? 540 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,130 Yeah, I think so. Let's see what's it for need fo 541 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,170 forum iLab. 542 00:30:38,700 --> 00:30:41,100 Fo hai spelled for me Foxtrot Oscar 543 00:30:41,100 --> 00:30:46,380 uniform Romeo Mike India Lima Alpha Bravo dot Charlie hotel. 544 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:52,410 It's It's like a It's like one of those old school hardcore 545 00:30:52,410 --> 00:30:56,640 hacker Unix. HTML one Dotto websites. 546 00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,130 Yeah, no, this really kind of, 547 00:30:59,610 --> 00:31:02,190 I know exactly what kind of guy this is when I see you. So. 548 00:31:02,790 --> 00:31:03,120 Yeah, it's 549 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,510 kind of actually the thing itself. It's pathetic. Let's 550 00:31:06,510 --> 00:31:09,120 see, I think it would be under either consciousness on the left 551 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,240 hand side, he's got this little sidebar. Yeah. And it's either 552 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,870 under consciousness studies or nanotechnology. I think that's 553 00:31:15,870 --> 00:31:19,890 what it is. I mean, look. And yeah, there it is. Retro cycle. 554 00:31:20,670 --> 00:31:23,760 thesis project. Read the top read, and I'll read this for 555 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,550 people out there listening to the show. Retro psychokinesis is 556 00:31:26,550 --> 00:31:30,270 the claim durability of certain subjects to alter random data 557 00:31:30,510 --> 00:31:33,900 generated but not examined prior to the time the data are 558 00:31:33,900 --> 00:31:37,830 presented to the subject crazy. You say? Well, there's certainly 559 00:31:37,830 --> 00:31:40,920 no mechanism in mainstream physics which would permit such 560 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,040 an effect. Although I think now that this quantum thing like yet 561 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,440 experiments conducted by a number of different researchers 562 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,170 over the past 20 years suggests compellingly, according to some 563 00:31:49,170 --> 00:31:51,780 analysis that the probability of the results obtained in such 564 00:31:51,780 --> 00:31:55,950 experiments be obviously Walker's not a writer, being 565 00:31:55,950 --> 00:31:58,650 purely a result of chance is sufficiently low that they would 566 00:31:58,650 --> 00:32:01,710 be considered evidence of CAP causal mechanism in most 567 00:32:01,710 --> 00:32:04,920 scientific disciplines, blah, blah, blah. So anyway, what the 568 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,040 hell does that mean, John? It means that there may be 569 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:08,820 something to it. 570 00:32:09,300 --> 00:32:12,540 I see the probability pipe organ at the bottom of the page. I'm 571 00:32:12,540 --> 00:32:15,150 so down. I'm going to I'm going to play the pipes. And we'll 572 00:32:15,150 --> 00:32:17,550 compare notes next week. 573 00:32:18,210 --> 00:32:20,370 Well, me and maybe users out there can check this out and 574 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,340 then send a surrogate go leave a message on your machine again, 575 00:32:23,340 --> 00:32:24,690 it would put them on the air. 576 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:29,160 Yeah, let me let me give the let me do the voicemail number. This 577 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:30,810 will be cool. This will blow your eardrums out. 578 00:32:46,980 --> 00:32:49,800 Yo, yo, what the heck was that? 579 00:32:50,369 --> 00:32:57,239 That was the voicemail jingle dude. God. All right, man. Been 580 00:32:57,239 --> 00:33:00,299 fun talking to you, John. We'll do it again. Next week. I'll be 581 00:33:00,299 --> 00:33:02,339 in San Francisco. And I think it'd be on the west coast as 582 00:33:02,339 --> 00:33:07,409 well. I hope. Yeah. Okay, from just south of London in the 583 00:33:07,469 --> 00:33:08,999 curry manner. I'm Adam curry. 584 00:33:09,660 --> 00:33:12,210 And I'm John C. Dvorak in California. All right, we'll 585 00:33:12,210 --> 00:33:13,650 talk again next week. Take care John. 586 00:33:16,950 --> 00:33:19,980 The best and the brightest served up daily by the sharpest 587 00:33:19,980 --> 00:33:22,860 minds in content delivery poncho and limelights